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Wake Up Classy 97 with Josh & Chantel from Friday, March 27th, 2026 / It's Friday, so let's get a nest update on Jackie and Shadow in Big Bear Valley, a father-son duo biking a jaw-dropping 9,600 miles to visit all 30 MLB ballparks, the comeback of cassette tapes, how Pokemon Go secretly trained an army of delivery robots using your footsteps, flight simulators, the barefoot "ick factor," calorie tracking confessions, what makes a house feel like a home, want to live on a houseboat or in an RV, Chantel really, really wants to visit a haunted plague island in Italy and Josh is perfectly fine waiting in Venice with a plate of pasta, and more!!
Timestamps:
(0:00) - Bonus: Big Bear Valley eagle update
(4:35) - Wear a hat
(7:41) - Good News
(10:29) - Cassette Tapes
(15:54) - Pokémon Go
(21:08) - AI emails
(28:19) - Going '90s
(32:45) - Grandma things
(38:50) - Flight simulator ick
(48:21) - What makes a home a home
(56:32) - Uncool movie things
(1:03:17) - Trust me
(1:08:09) - Would You Rather
(1:12:50) - Haunted islands
Okay, Friday, okay, I was just doing some research on the big bear bald eagles.
I was checking out the cam.
They still have two intact eggs in the clutch, which is good news.
They're still incubating.
You were saying that there's been a lot of outsiders trying to get into the nest.
Been quite a few predators this go around, which I think is interesting.
The first clutch was lost to some ravens, which was sad.
And then the second eggs, the second round were, what's the word I'm looking for?
They're not hats.
They were laid.
The eggs were laid in mid to late January, January or February, now I have to go back and
look.
Oh, I think February.
I think it was like February 27, yeah.
So the second egg was laid on February 27, which is a great fresh opportunity for a successful
nesting season for Jackie and Shadow, which is great.
Here's what else I learned.
Typical gestation period or incubation period, I guess, in the case of eggs, is 35 to 40
days.
35 days from February 27, when the second egg was laid is April 3, which by the way is
Luna's birthday.
Yeah, so that's exciting.
It's also right around the same time as the Artemis 2 launch.
There's a lot going on, there's a lot happening.
Right around the next week or so, we potentially could start to see hatching eggs, which is kind
of exciting.
Also, what's happening at the first weekend of April, the Easter, oh my goodness, so many
things.
Can you even, I can't even, Easter, Artemis 2 hatching, I'm going to put that in our
calendar.
Yeah, well, and I don't know, like that's just an estimation, right, right, 35 to 40 days,
35 days from when the second egg was laid, puts us at April 3.
So here in another week or so, we could see baby eagles, little tiny baby eagles.
My little eagles, I just love seeing them.
These eagles are huge, like you don't realize that, because they look so small on your
computer screen, but they're big.
I was fishing last weekend, and I stumbled across a goose nest, and I didn't know that
the goose was even there, and I was just carefully walking, and the goose flew up and scared
me.
Well, you scared that goose.
Well, I got, the goose was aware of me probably well before I even knew, but I, and I wasn't
even that close.
I mean, I was probably still 30 yards away, like I was a distance away, but it wanted to
get the attention away from the eggs, but I could see him from where I was standing after
the goose left the nest, and those eggs are huge, they're big, they're like as big as
your coffee tumbler, they are really big eggs.
That's crazy.
I had no idea.
They're big.
You really made that goose mad.
I was looking to see because I was worried that maybe geese don't come back to their nest
if a human has gotten a goose.
Oh, no, they will.
They will.
Yeah, they, like, I just looked.
It, it honked for a long time, and then it's, it's, because they pair, it's mate came
in to make sure everything was okay, and the two of them flew off together to a nearby
like field, like right next to where I was, and, and I know that they were nearby and
they were going to come back, which is kind of sad at the speed, all at the same time,
because they were like, look over here, look over here, because they probably thought
that you were a hunter.
Correct.
I know.
Which I'm not.
I'm not there.
I didn't have anything to do with the geese at all.
I was there for the fish, they just happened to be nesting nearby, so I left, I didn't,
you know, I didn't even get close, I stayed well, well away.
I just thought it was really fascinating.
So anyway, I know that these eggs that are being incubated by these eagles are large
as well, which is kind of cool.
So anyway, all right, well, shall we kick off our Friday show?
Let's kick it off.
Here we go.
Here we go.
Here we go.
Now, finally, here's a day I can get behind.
It is wear a hat day, let's go.
How unusual for you.
Every day is wear a hat day.
Have you ever gotten flocked for wearing a hat in doors?
No.
Because it's not 1920.
No, but I know there's still a lot of people who think that's a sign of disrespect.
I think sometimes people feel that way about a church.
I think wearing a hat in a church sometimes gets treated differently than just a building.
I know that there are times, there are like certain scout camps and stuff where we're
taught, like when we have our berets on, we're taught to take those off indoors, which is
just a show of respect.
And depending on, you know, if I was really thinking ahead and had my head shaved before
a week-long camp in my beret or not, I would have a second alternative hat to wear with
me in my backpack.
Because heaven forbid, you not have a hat on your head.
That's what I mean.
You never get sick of wearing hats every day.
No.
I don't even know what's there.
I've worn a hat since I was in high school.
Since you first started going bald?
Probably, yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, I wore hats a lot.
You did not wear a hat on our wedding day.
No.
I did not.
I can't remember if we had a conversation about it or not.
No.
We just had a conversation about scratching my head and then I did exactly that.
You did do exactly.
Which was, you know, weird.
I'm glad you didn't say something worse.
Did you just decide not to wear it on our wedding day?
I don't remember.
I don't remember it being a big deal.
I don't think it was a big deal.
And I wouldn't have minded if you had worn a hat.
I'm glad you didn't.
But.
Yeah, I didn't.
All I know is you and a hat.
Well.
You did have a fedora stage.
I still have them.
No, I don't.
Did I get rid of them?
Yeah.
It's fine.
I don't miss them.
So you weren't wearing like baseball caps?
You were wearing.
Well, you don't wear baseball caps anyway.
You just wear.
I had fishing hats.
Well, yeah.
They're not baseball teams there.
Then this isn't even a baseball cap style anymore.
No.
I like this style.
I know you do.
You have a lot in that style.
What are you doing?
I just, I think I'm, I think my fingers started bleeding.
Uh-oh.
Yeah.
So I got to deal with that.
I think I snagged it.
I was looking under your car this morning.
Yeah.
And I think I, I think I caught my finger somehow.
I'm sorry.
I just realized.
Oh, great.
So no, I got to deal with that.
That's my fault.
Well, anyway, wear a hat today.
Anyway, it's a Friday.
Yes.
Friday.
Wear a hat.
Get down with it.
What's that mean?
Oh.
Get down with it on a Friday.
Wear a hat.
Good morning.
All right.
Listen to this story.
Yesterday, opening day for major league baseball season, as we talked about.
Yes.
It was a big day for a lot of baseball fans as most teams enjoyed opening day.
The first game of the season.
And after today, all 30 teams will have played at least one game.
They are saying this is kind of like summer.
So that's kind of a big deal.
Well, yesterday was an especially big day for Scott Purge and his son, Ethan, who were
at T-Mobile Park and Seattle for the game between the Mariners and the Cleveland Guardians.
And from there, Scott and Ethan wrote off on their bikes, starting an amazing 96 hundred
mile ride across the country on their bicycles on their bicycles.
And the goal is to visit all 30 major league ball parks between now and the end of September,
riding bicycles from city to city.
What?
Why are you riding your bicycles?
Well, that's a fun way to get there, but they're also raising some money for St. Jude
children's research hospital.
And they have their site set on raising a million dollars in donations.
I mean, that's a nice cause.
But yeah, guys, whoo.
Right.
That's a long bike ride.
That's a long.
I hope you bought some padding for your rear teeth.
So listen, Scott's been preparing for the cross country ride for months, both physically
and mentally.
He said, physiologically, your sore, your butt's going to hurt.
You know, you're just going to have to get used to these things.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You rode a bike from Pocotello to Rexburg.
Yeah.
In two days.
Yeah.
Good for you.
Yeah.
Did you guys stop to rest, like stop to sleep?
We stopped, like we took a whole day.
So we rode from Pocotello to Idaho Falls, and then the next morning, we left Idaho Falls
and finished the ride to Rexburg, yeah.
Okay.
So it was over two days.
98 miles.
Yeah.
You were pretty sore after that.
I remember.
Yeah.
Like people ride centuries all the time, and a couple more miles we would have ridden a
century, which I kind of wish I had done.
I know, right?
Two more miles.
Yeah.
Get her done.
Uh, Scott's also counting on added motivation to get them through the toughest parts of
the trip, the kids at the hospital.
Uh, he said, it kind of puts things in perspective.
If you're having a bad day, you think about the kids saying, Jude, who are the beneficiaries
and it'll get you through it.
So, uh, kind of a fun, exciting thing that they are doing 96 hundred miles across the
country.
Good luck.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Scott, Neath and Perch ride safe and, uh, wear a helmet.
That's good news.
I know you have a lot of CDs, but do you have your cassette tapes?
Yeah.
You do have some.
Yeah.
You're a keeper of things.
I know.
It's a problem, actually.
I've been trying to think of a creative way to offload a bunch of that stuff.
Well, cassette tapes apparently are on the rise.
Okay.
They're trendy again.
Cool.
I hadn't heard this news.
I'm not going to be buying any cassette tapes.
They've been showing up for a few years, like in, uh, in places where you could go by,
you could buy singles still and you could buy full, full cassette albums.
I wish I still had some of mine.
I really do.
I loved buying singles.
Oh, man, that was the best.
A little plastic cassette and cardboard sleeve wrapped in plastic.
Yes.
Yes.
Because they're becoming so trendy, Maxl is the, I pronounce it, M-A-X-E-L-L, like
Maxl, yeah.
The cassette.
Right.
Tape player.
They're making blanks again.
They're, well, they're bringing back the, the player.
Which one?
The Macfellow.
The Macfellow.
The Macfellow.
It's not the Walkman.
It's just the Maxl one.
Hmm.
Okay.
They're about $8,200, and they've got modern features like Bluetooth and a USB-C charging
port.
Okay.
They also have their headphone jack.
Yeah.
Their battery life, they're saying is pretty decent.
You get about 11 hours of play time.
So this is the wireless one.
And it comes with the belt clip.
Nice.
It's a clean looking cassette player.
Yeah.
And I do like that it also has Bluetooth because then you can run it wireless with your
ear buds, which I think is cool.
That's, that's kind of neat.
You can also buy a five pack of blank cassette for about $15.
There's nothing on those kids.
You got a record, which this one does have a record button.
No, that's a stop.
It doesn't have a record.
So this is just a player, not a recorder.
So if you want to be able to record, make a mix tape for your boyfriend or girlfriend.
That's what I'm saying.
Yep.
I don't see this one record.
You made me a mix CD, you burned you a CD, yeah.
Couple of them.
Yeah.
Oh.
You've never made me a mix tape though.
Do you want one?
No, because I don't have anywhere to play it.
I can make that happen.
I don't.
I don't.
I have in the house.
In the house right now, there are at least three or four cassette players.
Are you kidding?
No.
Are they all in your studio?
Three of them are.
Where's the other one?
I think, I think there's a cassette player in the side of Beck's record player.
I think it's like an all in one unit.
And then Emory's car has a cassette player.
There's a small radio in the living room.
I just, it looks old fashioned.
And so that's why I have it.
The little turquoisey one.
Yeah.
That's a cassette.
No.
Yeah.
I don't know.
I think it just looks like it plays cassettes.
But I don't think you actually can.
I have the blue one down in the studio that I bought and I have a walkman.
And I have a really nice recorder, really nice, because that recorder, yeah, you do.
And you can play from one to the other so you can, you know, play cassettes on the
cassettes.
Make me a mix tape.
You know how long that takes.
I can, I can build you a playlist in about two seconds and email it over way faster.
Look, I think, I think Max, I'll get in on this game is kind of fun.
It looks nice.
I like the retro look of it.
I think it's clean.
It's, it's, it's pretty cool.
But it's kind of pricey.
Oh, I didn't see the price.
How much is it?
I told you, $80 to $100.
Because let's see officially.
It's officially for sale for $80 and then you can buy it through Amazon.
Right.
And I just go, I don't want to buy that for that much money.
$14.
$13.35 for that pack of blank cassette tapes.
It's five, five cassettes for $13.35.
Shoot.
That's, I feel like that's high too for a five pack.
That's pretty good deal.
I think.
I think that's a steal.
There are 90 minute tapes too.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You got to record rick D's in the weekly top 40.
The D's sleaze.
Yeah.
What a, what a show that was.
And you got to wait until your song comes on.
I know my song is going to be number three this week.
Yeah.
Let's wait.
Let's wait.
And then the DJ with rick D's wouldn't stop talking.
So you can hear his voice in part of the song.
Yeah.
And then he hit record real fast.
Right.
From Madonna.
Rick D's.
That's funny.
Rick D's in the weekly top 40.
Yeah.
See how that sticks in your head.
Yes.
Oh, yeah.
Razy.
It's because I listen to it every week.
Every week.
What song is number one?
Yeah.
Madonna again.
Yep.
Every week.
Remember Pokemon go.
Sure.
I helped develop that game.
How can I forget?
Because you played a little game called ingress.
That's right.
I played ingress and as part of ingress, which was made
by this group called Niantic.
And Niantic is part of Google.
It was an offshoot project from Google's like secret lab
or whatever.
And in this game, it may still exist.
It was a lot of fun.
It was an alternative reality game where
you would go out into actual outside.
And you would mark beacons.
And then you would connect beacons all over the world.
And beacons were anything from park benches to statues,
to local landmarks, whatever it was.
And you would basically play a game of who can control more
of the world map.
Blue team or green team.
That was the essentials of how it worked.
And you would have to collaborate with people to connect.
But I built a lot of the portals.
OK.
So then Pokemon go jumps onto the scene.
Right.
And they just laid over Pokemon on top of ingress.
And we're using the portals as gyms for Pokemon.
They're using all the data of Pokemon
go to help train delivery robots.
Yeah, well, you're welcome.
By teaching them how to see the world,
but extreme precision, it says.
Yeah.
And that was kind of the interesting thing
is that it was weird at the time.
And I sort of had that little like a spidey sense thing going.
Like, this is Google.
And they want me to walk from point to point to point post
pictures of these landmarks.
Like, it was really kind of interesting
that we, and a couple of the guys
that I knew from Utah that were involved,
worked for data mining companies.
And they were like, oh, yeah.
This is absolutely a data grab.
Like 100%.
They're using us to get a bunch of data
about how long it takes to walk places,
how precise can they get their gyms calculation?
You're huge.
Oh, absolutely.
And then what I was playing a game for free
that I was not, you know, I'm out there
involved in this game and this community.
For them to go.
And then they did it with the Harry Potter one.
They did it with the Pokemon Go one.
They're several that they just used all of the data
from the Niantic project on top of it.
Let's get out of this stupid humans to do all of our work.
That's exactly right.
How can we get them to do this?
Make it a game.
So they're saying that GPS has been known to mess up
in really dense areas.
So they're taking the data from Pokemon Go.
And helping the robots pinpoint their location
within centimeters.
Oh, yeah.
So they're training all of those delivery robots
with the data that you've mined yourself.
All of those steps you walked,
they're like, yep, we'll have that.
Thank you very much.
Yep.
And you didn't even get paid for it, John.
No, I know.
But Niantic, I mean, look, for what it's worth,
Niantic really got out there and made,
I mean, Pokemon Go and the Monster Hunter game
are just unreal.
And I don't see ingress on here anymore,
but it's all built on the backbone of ingress.
So just, you know, nowhere it came from, you know?
That's what I'm trying to say.
No one cares.
They also built a Pinkman Bloom game too.
I don't know what that is.
It's another, another game, another AR game.
And I don't see alternative reality,
but I don't see, I don't see ingress on here at all.
So, and that's fine.
It is fine.
Just give it to the one that made it all happen.
That's fine.
That's fine.
Sorry about that.
Josh, do people still play ingress?
And that's what I was just trying to find out.
It still has a website.
Man.
It still has an app.
It's still in the app store.
Yeah, you can still install it.
Okay.
I won't, I won't be.
Okay, it's still under Niantic.
So, there you go.
It's still a thing.
Good to hear.
If you want to get into something,
get obsessed with something.
No, don't.
There's other, there's cooler hobbies.
Okay.
This one involves a lot of walking.
And that's true.
It gets you outside.
It gets you outside to see your city, for sure.
That is true.
Anyway.
Anything else?
No, no.
Oh, okay.
You're welcome.
Can you tell when something was written by AI?
Generally, if something was written.
Yeah.
If I'm reading something,
like somebody did a social media post
or something,
and a copy and pasted from AI, is that what you mean?
Yeah, kind of.
Okay.
Or an email.
Oh.
I look, I think there are,
like I talk to people around here enough
that if I got an email from some of them
that used bigger words than I know they use all the time,
I'd be like, yeah, you didn't write that.
There's no way.
You don't know those words.
Right.
And why would you be using those words?
You don't use those words.
Yeah, if it doesn't sound like you,
like I had yesterday,
I had a conversation with Katie from 003.
And I said, hey,
we're kind of in on this group conversation,
like five people.
I said, would you mind sending an email about that?
Very much in her style.
Like I know she wrote that email, 100%.
It could do.
But I don't know if I asked some other people
in the building,
hey, would you send an email to the group?
I'd probably get some formal AI generated.
To go with my concern.
Yeah, some sort of elaborate thing.
There is a college professor that saying
when he notices big words like more over.
Right.
Or furthermore.
Yep.
Or even thus he's immediately prone
to think that was AI generated, AI written.
He got some feedback.
Some of the students are like,
just because we don't use that in everyday language,
doesn't mean that we won't use that on a term paper.
Interesting.
Because we know that you're looking for those bigger words.
And they're not wrong.
I've written furthermore in a paper before.
Do I use furthermore in everyday language?
No.
Yeah, I don't know, but furthermore,
like I don't use that ever.
I don't write it.
I guarantee you I have written it on a paper before.
For sure.
Before AI even existed.
I don't think I've written furthermore.
Ever.
You always say that you can tell when it's AI
because there's a lot of hyphens.
They do use a lot of hyphens.
They hyphenate stuff a lot instead of using,
like I'm an ellipsis guy.
Yeah, me too.
So I use a lot of ellipsis and...
I use a lot of parentheses.
Okay, interesting.
That's interesting.
So, I mean, I'm sure I have a normal style of writing.
I've tried to get away from saying thanks
at the end of an email.
Oh, I do that constantly.
I know, but I had to get away from it.
Why?
So because I'm, there's nothing to say thank you for.
And not that I'm grateful for your existence.
But what am I saying thank you for?
Here's the files I send you every Monday.
Thanks.
No, not thanks.
There's no need for a thanks.
Here's the files that I send you every week.
End of email.
I don't need a, there's no need for me to say thank you.
Sometimes I'll put thanks so much.
Why?
Because it's nice.
If I'm requesting something of someone else, yes.
If I go, hey, would you be able to meet
sometime this week?
Thanks so much for letting me know.
That's, that's fine.
Okay.
That's appropriate.
Here's the attachments that I send to you
or was requested to send to you.
Why am I saying thank you?
Here's what you asked me to do.
You're welcome.
There should be a follow up from the recipient for them to go.
Thank you for sending the files I requested.
Do you okay?
Here's what I don't like.
I don't like when people don't respond to my email at all.
Even if there's, I don't know how we got started talking
about email, but here we are.
Because of AI.
I don't like even if there's not really anything
to respond back to.
It would just be nice to get a received.
Just so I know that they actually got it.
I don't care about that.
I do.
Because sometimes I send emails and I go,
I don't know if they even saw it.
That's fair.
It'd be nice to know.
Can you put read receipts on emails?
I don't know how to do that.
Mm-hmm.
I just do as a Gmail.
Does Gmail have that capability?
Look at that.
There's an extension that you can put on for Chrome
that will let you do that.
So there's a couple of different, let me look here.
Is there any way of getting read receipts?
There's several different plugins.
That's about it that I can see your extensions.
Okay.
But it looks like a read receipt would be great.
Yeah.
And then when people say, oh, I didn't get that email,
I'll be like, liar.
At the, okay, so it says it,
when you go to compose, let's try this.
Go to compose an email.
Okay.
And then before you're going to send it,
it says there's these three dots down at the bottom.
Yes.
And you should be able to request read receipts right there.
It sure is.
Yeah.
Just change your world.
This is going to change my life.
That's why I just said, it's going to change your world.
Okay.
I'm going to test it out on you though.
Okay.
And I'm going to send you something
because I want to know what it looks like.
Let's see what it does.
Okay.
I mean, you guys don't have to wait for us to send it to you.
So fast, you don't have to send anything crazy.
Just send some requests to request the read receipt.
I did.
And then hit send.
I did.
You've already sent it.
I did.
Okay.
It's got to go all the way to Pluto and back.
Which email did you send it to?
Not my work one.
Yes to your work one.
There it is.
All right, I've opened it.
Okay.
Now you should get a read receipt.
Let's do what it says.
This is this is real.
This is, you know, the real deal.
Nothing yet.
Okay.
Well, I've opened it and I've read it and I have deleted it.
Oh, one or more senders in this conversation
of request to the read receipt.
Send receipts are not now.
So you, okay.
So it doesn't send me an automatic.
This person has you have to actually do that step.
Yep.
That's why it says request.
People are never going to respond to that.
Man, I was just in the same boat I was.
Well, sorry.
It's all right.
I'm all right.
I'll be fine.
Okay.
Are you sure?
I'll be fine.
Okay.
So there's a guy I found on TikTok and he is,
he's talking to you about wellness.
And he's kind of a wellness guide.
And he said, people need to start going 90s.
What's that mean?
So the idea here is that you leave your phone at home
if you're going to go for a walk or if you're going to go
to the store or to get food with people.
And you ahead of time you go,
Hey, listen, we're going 90s.
So no tech like you just usually take my phone
when I go on a walk, but I'm usually accompanied by you.
I went on a walk the other night by myself
and I took my phone because I'm a woman
and it's a little scary sometimes.
So I took my phone as a precautionary safety measure.
Makes sense.
So I like the idea, but I've also lived in the 90s
and have driven with a car that was unreliable,
not that my car is unreliable now,
but I've been without a phone in the 90s
when my car has broken down.
It's not a great place to be, you know?
I get you, I understand.
I like the concept of leaving my phone,
but sometimes emergencies arise and you need a phone
to quickly call for help.
Yeah, no, I get you and I just like the name go in 90s
and the idea is that your phone was attached to the wall
and so you couldn't bring it with you.
And three date cell phones and the idea is just
to leave your phone at home, it's going to be fine.
You know, you're not like in a high demand position,
like you're just a person and for an hour or two, you go 90.
But I kind of like the idea that not,
that people can't reach you too.
Have you ever forgotten your phone and you're like,
yeah, it's felt weird.
You get like stressed, right?
Like I can go and then you check and make sure
that it's in a safe place.
Oh, I just left it at home, that's fine.
But it is kind of freeing to know that not,
you're not attached to it constantly
or that people can't get a hold of you.
Yeah, like I'm unreachable.
Like it's one of the greatest parts
about going into the woods.
Yeah.
It's like, I don't even have service.
So I'm not going to get texts.
I'm not going to get emails updates on the news.
So that's also a little bit free because you're like turn it off.
I don't have to check my social media.
This is great.
Right.
I don't need to see how that nonsense.
Yeah.
I like calling it going 90s.
I think that sounds cool.
Let's go 90s.
Go in 90s, baby.
Yeah, hey, we're going to go out to dinner with some friends,
but we're going 90s.
That would have been beneficial last night.
But we were all, we went out to dinner, just the family.
Right.
Everyone on their phones.
All right.
It was insane.
And I finally put mine down and I said, hey guys,
maybe let's not be on our phones because every single one of us,
I know.
We weren't even having a conversation.
So I started to draw on a napkin and did that.
Right.
Where we passed it around.
Yeah.
It stopped because somebody picked up their phone at Beck because he picked up his phone.
You couldn't be bothered either because you were on your phone.
I was with you.
I was talking to you about what I was looking at because I was trying to figure out the
Pips game.
That wasn't that wasn't a that wasn't a conversation between two people.
That was a conversation between one person.
So when you say you were talking to me, you know, you were talking to yourself about
it to you.
You were saying it out loud to you.
So because you had figured it out already, and you were talking to me about it.
Yeah.
Because it was the only way I could get you to talk to me.
That doesn't make sense.
It does too.
Make sense.
Anyway.
I like going 90s.
Go 90s.
Okay.
Everybody wants to dress like they're from the 90s.
Let's make them all go 90s.
Let's go back.
Jack.
Yeah.
Oh boy.
Emory asked me the other day, why do grammas that have sweaters on always do that thing where
they pull it tight and tight over there.
I guess to be warm.
So I kind of laughed and I said, yeah, I guess they do do that.
Don't they?
Last night I had a sweater on and it was a little bit chilly and I did the exact thing
that she did a grandma.
I think anybody in a sweater does that move.
That's just a I'm chilly kind of wrap it up tight.
I've never seen you do that because I'm not a grandma.
You have some old man sweaters.
I do.
I have one here.
Yeah.
Got it.
Bundle yourself up.
Oh.
Oh.
Warmer now.
I'm sure that's it.
That's the only thing.
It's just a subconscious reflex thing to be in cold where you go.
I think I might need to warm myself up a little bit.
The funniest thing was that she mentioned that probably a week ago and then you did it.
How come every grandma does that and I didn't even know I had done it.
And she goes, you're doing the thing.
You did the grandma thing.
That was a dinner last night.
Yeah.
Yeah, I saw that.
You did see me.
I did.
Bundle myself up.
I did see it.
Take my sweater and make it.
It's like it's too small and so we got to treat it like a blanket and kind of stretch
it out a little bit and then just wrap it tight.
That's right.
You also carry a little Kleenex in your pocket, which is a grandma thing to do.
Yeah.
I don't have any currently.
Nope.
Just checked.
Okay.
I was worried I might.
There has to be Kleenex is everywhere I go.
I don't know what to tell you.
You got one right there.
You got one over here.
There's like two laying around.
Well, yeah, I need them.
You have a whole box next to you.
I need both of them.
Why are they laying around?
These ones?
Yeah.
Because I'm still using those.
Oh, good.
These are old lady things.
I'm not even a grandmother yet.
Thankfully.
Right.
I'm too young for that.
Right.
But your much older sister has three grandkids.
Yeah.
She is a grandma, my sister, whoa.
She is OLD.
Wow.
Well, anyway, who don't know lady stuff?
Or do it.
Whatever.
I was going to say, I can't.
Just do what you naturally do.
I am.
It's all I know how to do.
It's what you naturally do.
Just keep it up.
Thank you.
You're doing good things.
What I'm trying to lean into is that you're doing good things.
Am I?
Yes.
Having Kleenex in my pocket is a good thing.
I just, I don't want to touch him.
No one's asking you to.
I never said here, tell my Kleenex.
Thankfully.
Oh, never.
It sounds like I can not good time.
What are some?
Okay.
So if we've established that grandma thinks to do or to follow sweater's tight and to
keep Kleenex's in their pockets, and I think there's other other things and it isn't
just grandma stuff.
It's just, you know, what's a grandma?
What's a grandma?
What's a mature woman thing?
That's all.
What's a mature man thing?
Hmm.
I don't know.
What do you think?
Woodworking.
I'm trying to build squirrel feeders.
That kind of feels like a mature man thing.
I agree with that.
You got to start keeping some more of those in your pockets.
I have them in the pants.
So you can give them out to the kids when they come around on their bikes.
They go, oh, kids, you need a hard candy.
You need a hard butterscotch candy.
They're so good.
Yeah, those are some mature man things.
Yeah.
Hey, let's talk about a mature woman thing.
I got to go talk to my doctor about some.
Oh, okay.
It's a mature woman thing.
Okay.
That sounds like a plan.
Why do you say it's a plan?
I just, you sound like you've been saying for the past while that you need to go talk
to somebody about whatever mature woman things you have going on.
Some pair of menopause thing.
Whatever it is.
Like a grouch all the time.
Yeah.
That's what you've been saying.
I need some replacement therapy, I think.
What's that mean?
That means some hormone stuff, like replacement therapies.
What is that?
Is that something you made up?
No, it's a real thing.
It's a real thing.
They take some, I'll put some new ones in, it's that replacement.
What's that mean?
Replacement.
It means estrogen is getting low.
Is that right?
Low in the sky.
Big guy.
Low in the sky.
Low in the sky.
Low in the sky.
Big guy.
And so they say here have some more estrogen to kind of mellow you out a little bit.
Is that right?
And I go, thank you.
Maybe I will stop being such a grouch all the time.
I got it.
Okay.
Do you approve?
Oh, if you think you need it, then go for it.
I'll be over here, minding my own business.
Your business is ever never being minded.
You're always up in my space.
No, I am not.
Nope.
I'm doing my own mature man things over here.
Yeah, I've built in squirrel feeders.
That's right.
When there's a million house projects that need to be done.
Here we go.
I shared a video with you.
This woman was talking about her significant other and he's got one of the coolest things
I've ever seen.
It's a full on flight simulator room.
And I would absolutely nerd out in that thing.
He's got feet pedals and throttle controls and multiple monitors to wrap around.
So he's got a clear view.
It looks like a blast.
Yeah, but you'll also realize he's got his feet controls and he's he's doing that
part barefoot, which is given his wife, it's totally grossed out, right?
Which I think is rude.
He's comfortable flying his airplane and she's over there making bar fee faces.
That's mean.
Contribute flying his airplane, huh?
Yeah.
Like, look, I've got my space where I tie my flies.
Yeah.
If I'm sitting down there with little sock feet, you're going to go, no, that's
different.
Why is it different?
I mean, my element.
It wasn't just the beam.
She's kind of already.
Yeah.
She's picked out by the entire.
Yeah, she really is.
He's got on his headset and he's got his mic and he's talking to flight control and
he's getting clearance to take off.
He's doing a flight simulator and she is grossed out by it.
And I think that's mean.
She should support his passion.
I don't get the ick when your dad stares tying your flies.
I don't.
If I had little sock feet, I don't think I would mind your sock feet, but you don't
ever have sock feet until you're ready to go to bed.
I might like sock feet downstairs on the carpet.
Keep your shoes on until it's time to go to bed.
I know.
You don't like to be barefoot.
I do not.
So I actually, if I saw sock feet, I'd be like, what is happening?
Yeah.
If you had gross, dirty, white socks, I might get grossed up by that with like my feet
up on an ottoman and you can see the gray bottom of my feet, like my little or my toes
are at.
Oh, yeah, gross.
But you have black socks, and that's fine.
Is there anything I do that gives you the ick?
No, you're perfect.
What kind of trap is that?
No, just say one, absolutely not.
There are none to be said.
I think I could think of some anytime I'm eating, not that I'm gross eater, but you think
it's loud.
Do you think that I'm a loud eater?
That's not the ick.
Okay.
What's the ick?
And I don't think you're a loud eater.
I think everyone around me choose loud.
That's a me problem.
There was a coworker of mine that was eating an apple yesterday and she apologized
because she said, I'm sorry that my apple is so loud and I said, girl, chew away because
I have gotten such a complex from eating with my husband that I can't just eat in peace.
I go, so please, chew your apple as loudly as you want.
Was it pretty loud?
No, I didn't even notice it.
That's good.
Yeah.
An apple, I can hear somebody eating it down the hall and I go, nope, you've got to take
that apple outside, go further away.
Do you say that out loud to these people?
No.
Okay.
Because I'm not me.
Because you're not going to give anybody else a complex, just me.
I don't intend to give anyone a complex.
You included in especially.
And I don't say anything.
I just, I go, that's loud.
I'm going to leave the room.
That's, you do do that where you go.
I got to go.
Right.
I got to get out of here.
I am overstimulated by mouth noise.
I don't care for mouth noise.
It's a thing.
I don't like it.
Our son probably has one of the loudest mouth noises.
He's a loud chewer.
Okay.
He is.
There's someone louder.
Is that?
I have been, I have been seated next to some loud chewers in my life.
And I go, nah, all right, nah, I got to go.
I have, we have a mutual friend who slurps on pizza.
It's a strange thing.
But he'll go to take a bite of pizza and go, and I go, what are you doing?
Why are you doing that?
I don't care for that.
Stop it.
Just don't order pizza when he's around.
It's anything.
I don't, I haven't eaten next that person.
Fortunately lives on the other side of the country now.
But I've never heard somebody slurps pizza like that guy.
That's years and years and years ago, but I still can hear it in my mind.
Okay, rewind, rewind, rewind, rewind.
Sure.
So it's not my mouth chewing that gives you the ick.
No.
What else is it?
I told you nothing.
You're perfect.
Get out.
I'm going to get this out of you one way or another.
Nope.
I will.
Nope.
Nope.
No.
No.
No.
Is it it?
I could say anything and you'd be like, Oh, well, that is fine.
I will never do that again.
And then that's the attitude.
No, I won't.
Oh, okay.
Wait.
It would either be that.
It would be two things.
It would either be that or it'd be like, Oh, you hate that?
Yeah.
I'm going to do more of that.
I'm not setting myself up.
Not doing this.
It'd be, I'm going to purposely place myself next to you whenever I need to do that thing.
Exactly.
No.
Is the answer.
I'll never get it out of you.
I have an idea of what it is.
A couple of things.
Okay.
Good luck.
Good luck.
What?
Figuring it out.
No.
I'll just do it next to you.
Steal trap.
Oh, really.
Yeah.
Yep.
Locked up tight.
Anyway, I want that flight simulator.
I don't want you to have it.
Why?
Because then you're going to, you really would fly in your bare feet.
I don't think you would.
But.
Does that give you the ick?
Yeah.
I don't like.
I don't like his bare feet on the flight.
Feet pedals.
Why?
Because that's gross.
Why?
What'd you say?
Why is that gross?
Because it just looks gross.
It's his own house.
Yeah.
I know.
But it just looks gross.
Quit looking.
Quit hearing when people are loud.
I do.
I leave.
You do.
You walk away.
So that woman should leave him alone.
He's having a great time taking off in his airplane.
I would be willing to bet there are pilots who fly without shoes.
You think?
Guaranteed.
Interesting.
I don't.
I disagree with you.
You do?
I think it's probably an OSHA requirement that they have to say.
Or an FAA requirement.
Uh-huh.
F.
Did you say FFA?
FAA.
Oh, FAA.
Not the future farmers.
No.
I thought you said the future farmers when I went, that's the wrong acronym.
What are you looking up?
Yes, pilots almost always have to wear shoes.
There are a few specific federal regulations on footwear.
Airline uniform policies and safety standards that do require closed toe durable shoes to safely
operate rudder pedals and navigate flight decks.
A flight deck I would understand.
There's big tires.
You don't want to be down there without steel toes or some sort of strong shoe.
The shoes must be comfortable for long hours, but durable enough for pre-flight inspections.
Yes, see.
Often required to be slip resistant and non-forren object damage.
No one's fine without shoes.
Get out of here.
They've got to have shoes on.
No way.
And they have to.
They can't be sandals.
You can't show up in your Birkenstocks.
Why?
Because it's cute.
You...
Listen, if I'm going to be on like a transcontinental flight overnight, you think I'm going to sit there
and shoes the whole time?
No way.
I'm slipping on some slippies.
No way.
I'm taking...
You?
I'm...
I would take off those shoes and throw on something more comfortable like crocs.
I'd be flying in big rubber crocs.
I do not think that you would do that.
No, I wouldn't.
No.
Nice try.
One, you're not going to wear crocs, two, you're not going to take off your shoes, especially
since it's your job, and you're a firm believer in keeping your shoes on at work.
Yeah.
Don't show up to work without shoes on.
People walking around the office and sock feet.
Get out of here.
Who does that?
I've seen it.
I've seen that and I've seen barefoot people walking around and I go, go put on your shoes.
I know.
It's gross.
Put your dogs away.
That's it.
What makes your home feel like a home?
The people in it.
Aww.
It's so nice.
Is that right answer?
There is no right answer.
I feel like that's what it is.
Even if I'm at home and people aren't there, it's fine.
I live there.
My stuff's there, but it's just a container to hold my stuff.
It's when there's people around and noise and energy.
That's when it's like, yeah, this is home.
I think that's the deal with empty nest.
When the kids move out and it's just you and me and the dog, the dog has to be there.
It's going to feel different because the noise level is going to be different.
The activity in the house will change.
It absolutely well.
It already is.
Right.
And then when they come home, it'll be like, hey, it's home again.
Yeah.
Because I do love, like, we have a piano in our living room.
And we keep the lid, yeah, the keys are open.
Keep the keys are open so that if you're just walking by, you can plink, plink, plink.
And everyone does it as they walk by.
And I love that no matter what part of the house you're in, you can hear somebody walking
by and going, and everyone has their own song that they're working on that they plink
away when they're passing by.
I like that Beck is yelling on his headset.
Yeah.
I like hearing that sometimes.
Because it's just active.
Like, you were fly fishing videos, yeah, I just, I like the sounds that come from everyone
when we're all home.
Yeah.
That's what makes the home, that's what I'm saying.
It's when everybody's there.
It's the people.
Yeah.
Because the building is the building and the stuff is the stuff.
Right.
And it's not that, you know, it's not the building of the stuff.
It's the energy.
It's the smell of the home cook meals.
It's the fresh cookies.
It's all that stuff.
Fresh cookies.
Yeah.
Well, it has fresh cookies.
I don't know.
But somebody said they were going to be making brownies.
I'm not stoked about that because I'm currently on a journey that brownies are not part
of.
Right.
You're just going to have to practice a lot of self control.
I will be fine.
I just won't be happy about it.
So I'm going to be grouchy about having brownies in the house until they're gone.
Just because here's the thing.
You're counting your calories and your protein and your fiber and all that.
So have a brownie and make up, I don't have, I don't have the room.
It's too much sugar.
It is a lot of sugar.
I can't do it.
You've been, you've been doing really well, actually.
I'm impressed by your willpower.
Thanks.
Even last night, we went to dinner because we had a gift certificate we needed to use.
And you were like, I can't, I can't eat any of this.
And I said, yes, you can.
Just eat half of that and you're going to be fine.
And you did.
Right.
And fries.
I got a salad instead.
Yes.
You did really good.
Right.
Right.
With a low calorie vinaigrette instead of ranch.
I was going to eat it.
And the vinaigrette was awesome.
Half of mine.
How'd that go?
But I didn't.
I ate all of it.
Yeah.
She didn't come and pick up my plate.
And so then it just sat there looking at me and like, I'm not going to taste as good
tomorrow.
Oh boy.
So I had to.
So I get the other half of my meal for lunch today.
Did you bring it?
Good job.
Thanks.
You've been doing good.
I'm proud of you.
I've been trying not been a great week for me last week was really good.
But this week, I've, I've not done this is I'm trying to remember how many like it's been
days and days and days that I've been doing this.
But I don't think I'm at a full month yet.
This is my fourth week.
Okay.
Sunday will be the end of my fourth week.
What did I tell you last night?
Oh, yeah.
But listen, I think that applies to 20 year old and 30 year old people.
It takes a month for you to see it and two months for other people to see it.
No.
Something like that.
Until weeks you'll fill it in four weeks.
You'll see it.
Sure.
And in eight weeks, you'll hear it.
Yeah.
I don't think so.
I don't think that's.
That applies.
Okay.
Well, they say that 44 year old dude in two weeks, you'll fill it, meaning you'll have
better sleep.
You'll have more energy.
You'll be less stiff.
Yeah.
Listen, I, I do feel like I'm making a change.
And then in four weeks, you'll see it.
Your clothing fits better and you'll be changes in the mirror.
Disagree.
Okay.
I think that is the part that's going to take longer.
I think I'm making a conscious effort to be consistent, you know, and I'm looking at
things on a weekly thing.
And I think that's the difference between you and you and me where we're at on the calorie
thing is that like we've gotten a lot of a certain amount of calories that we're trying
to target each day.
But when you look at it under the week, do you know how to look at your week calendar?
Yeah.
Yeah.
So yeah, if you just hit the date at the top right, it'll show you all the days and it
will show you how many calories under or over you were for the whole week.
Yeah.
And that is where I go.
Okay.
That, that I'm making good progress at.
Yes.
Hey.
Yes.
Hey.
Yes.
Yes.
You don't feel like you are.
Oh.
I, this is just not been a good week.
I see.
I've made a lot of bad decisions this week.
But before that, I was doing so good.
But just, it's been a stressful week and so I've been, like I said, I'm an emotional
eater.
Okay.
So I eat when I'm stressed.
I eat when I'm upset.
Sure.
So I've had some treats.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay.
But I'm getting back on the wagon this morning and doing good.
Yeah.
Can only go upwards from here.
I don't know what that, like, I've got a weird check mark.
I don't know what that means.
I see.
So on days that I'm over, it looks ugly and I don't like how it looks because it breaks
up the pattern.
I have two of those yesterday was one of them.
It's bright red when you go over.
Well, it does.
But see how the check mark isn't green in the middle, bugs me.
They stick out.
And that's intentional.
Of course it is.
But I don't care about that.
Anyway, I'm trying, I'm trying, I need to up my cardio and my lifting.
That's the thing.
Like I'm getting in like at least one workout a week, which is great, but I need to improve
on this.
Yeah, I need to.
And then I would probably say, yes, my diet is working.
And I'm also working on my fitness and those two things combined are when I will start
to see better.
Did we go from talking about what makes a home a home to your exercise regimen?
Great question.
We'll have to listen back on the podcast to find out because I don't know.
What the.
Run in the gamut today.
I guess as they say, you know, what I don't know.
Hey, no, I was just, there's all these like old radio rules, you know, and what are
they?
One thought per break.
Keep it short.
Get back to the music, you know, those kinds of things.
And then you go, how did we get to this part from where we started?
And I don't even know.
I don't even know.
Hey, but thanks for listening through it.
Hopefully it made sense as we were along for the journey.
And you know, we'll do it again.
I'm sure here.
I'm sure.
Here are things that movies tell us were cool, but absolutely are not.
Want to hear one?
Yes.
Okay.
I was waiting for you to start telling me the list of them.
A leather jacket.
Why are they not cool?
Well, because it doesn't matter if it's summer or winter or in the middle of the desert,
everyone had a leather jacket on.
They're cool.
But if you wear a leather jacket, you realize it's heavy, it makes noise, it does not
breathe well.
No.
You're overheating and you're sweating.
I wear my leather jacket specifically when I'm riding my motorcycle.
Yeah.
You got me on leather jacket too so that I could ride on your motorcycle.
That's right.
I don't ever wear mine.
I only wear mine when I'm on my bike.
That's what it's for.
Okay.
Next one, hacking, like computer hacking.
Okay.
I thought you meant like, no, no, no, no, no, yeah.
Next time I said hacking is like for the cool kids and it's like, you're just typing
really fast where like the text scrolls by on your screen dramatically.
But I guess in reality, it's just programming harder than the other guy.
Right.
It takes days.
It's compiling lists.
Yeah.
You got to know.
I mean, look, it's not super like excited.
That's what it is.
It is.
Like it's, it's cool.
Like I think, I think cyber security is something else.
Like that's wild.
And to have to keep up with that is a job I don't want.
No, me neither.
I am not that into it that I want to be responsible for building the gates that keep the bad stuff
out and the good stuff secure.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I don't want to be in trouble.
I don't want to do that either.
But I'm glad somebody is and and thanks for that.
I think it's cool what you do.
Even if the movies made it out to be cooler than it is what you do, I still think it's
very cool.
I, it's cool, I guess getting into fights, the movies made it seem like getting into fights
was cool.
I don't think it sounds cool, but it hurts.
I witnessed one fight in real life when I was in high school and I've never been able
to forget it.
And I do not like it.
I don't care for it.
Okay.
Those ones were students were like, yeah, we got to fight, fight over here, you know,
and people were running.
I was in like eighth or ninth grade and people started running over to watch and I was
like, we got to go see what's going on.
These guys are having a fight.
Yeah.
I hated every minute.
Really?
I had to go.
I didn't like it.
But how could you give much UFC that because it's it's on TV?
Well, and it's the two people have agreed to the fight.
Sure.
Usually in a fight, especially when at school, one person is not a willing participant.
Yeah.
I hated it.
But fighting a movie.
Yeah.
It made my stomach turn.
I did not like it.
Oh, no way.
Not for me.
Oh, Joshy.
Yep.
You're so sensitive.
Nope.
I don't like it.
I don't like two people banging into each other.
Not fun.
Kissing in the rain.
Movies make this look cool.
It's wrong with that.
It's not cool.
Why?
Because you're wet.
Yes.
And your hair is in your face.
Not if you're under a umbrella.
If you're under a umbrella, it gets in your eyes.
Yeah.
Well, the rain.
Kissing under an umbrella is different.
You're just kissing in the rain is what I'm talking about.
No umbrella.
Just the rain.
It's cold.
And it's wet.
Not romantic.
Okay.
It's a nice idea.
But it's not.
And then just drowning.
What kind of rain are you in?
Like a straight up downpour?
Yeah.
That's always what it is.
The ones that flood the underpasses.
You're in one of those yikes to heavy rain.
Writing a motorcycle with no helmet.
Bad decision.
Bad is not cool.
Wear a helmet.
You're not a rebel.
Wear protective gear.
And you're going to get bugs all over your face.
Well, there's that.
I like a full face helmet for that reason.
Because there are bugs.
Like I've had like wasps and stuff hit my visor.
And I go, whoa.
Yeah.
That could have been my face.
That could have been my eyeball.
Right.
It's what I'm saying.
Next.
Okay.
Wet suit underneath a tuxedo.
Who does that?
James Bond.
Okay.
That sounds very unpractical.
You never know when you're going to go to a party.
And then I'm just stripped down, jump into a boat.
You never know.
Never know.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I'm going to have a whole time.
And everybody goes, James, you got on the wet suit under there.
You're neaprene under this, aren't you?
If you're going from the water to the tuxedo, then you're just dripping.
Right.
Gross.
It's even more uncomfortable in the chafing.
The chafing.
I was thinking about the chafing.
So much chafing.
Yeah.
You got to have some talc.
Smoking.
Never cool.
No.
No.
Shooting guns on full auto.
Well, the movies always make it seem so cool.
Like Rambo.
It's a big ol' bandelier of bullets.
Yeah.
Look at me.
Cool.
They say accuracy drops to basically zero.
Yeah.
You burn through ammo in seconds.
Right.
And everyone now knows where you are.
True statement.
I'm so cool.
Can you think of anything else that the movies make that's a good list of things?
That is actually not very cool.
Are you glad I started with a leather jacket one?
Yeah.
But also, they're very cool.
They're not cool, like, airy, like breathable for that boy, are they cool?
I think a leather jacket's cool.
I remember for Christmas money, or my sister wanted a leather jacket.
I remember this story.
And she wanted a very expensive leather jacket.
Right.
And my parents said, we can't afford to buy you that leather jacket.
So they bought her a cheaper leather jacket.
She hated it.
Of course.
She never wore it.
Yeah.
And then she made her boyfriend buy her the expensive leather jacket.
Yep.
Oh.
Way older and spoiled.
That's my sister.
What is, in your opinion, one of the scariest things you can overhear kids saying from
another rule?
Oh.
I think probably one of the scariest things is no sound at all.
The silence.
I understand.
Yeah.
Because then you know something's up.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I was on line yesterday, I overheard my two-year-old son saying, are you sure this is a good idea?
And my five-year-old son saying, trust me.
And he said, I have never moved from one room to another so quickly in my life.
I don't know what he found.
He didn't go on to say what he found.
Oh, dang it.
But that is quite the statement.
Trust me.
I think that the one kid was like, I don't know about this.
Somebody said a two-year-old saying, are you sure this is a good idea would wake me from
a coma?
Oh, for sure.
Are you sure this is a good idea?
What?
Especially a toddler saying that they notoriously have the worst ideas.
And then you have to imagine it being said in a toddler voice too.
Yeah.
Is that two-year-old going, are you sure this is a good idea?
And you go, probably not, but good job having the wherewithal to reconsider the
idea.
Dang it.
I kind of want to know what they were up to.
Well, somebody said, what do you rush in and you go, what are you doing?
And they go, nothing?
Like.
Right.
You got to kind of just stand back.
Yeah.
Then you're a detective trying to figure out what's going on in here.
We keep you eavesdropping for a little bit.
Yeah.
Peek around the corner with a mirror.
What's going on there?
Yeah.
Did you, you were the oldest.
Right.
Did you ever lead your little sister away for, quote, unquote, good ideas?
Nothing I recall.
I don't think I was ever like, let's go climb a tree dangerously.
You never let her stray.
No.
No.
No, she was, I was probably, no, I was probably like hanging out with all the neighborhood
kids.
And then she, like, came around and I was like, all great.
I just don't know.
I was always just so desperate to hang out with my older brother and sister that I was
like, whatever you want to do, I'll do it.
Correct.
I think that was similar.
It was, but we also had like, there were a lot of kids our age in the neighborhood time.
Yeah.
I did.
And so, you know, there was plenty of kids to hang out with and there were usually sibling
groups.
So there would be, you know, a brother and a sister or one group that had two brothers.
Let's see.
A brother and a sister.
Those guys had a brother and a sister.
Those guys had two brothers.
I mean, there was a ton of us.
That's cool.
Yeah.
There was a whole, my sister and brother much older than me.
So we didn't have similar siblings, friends, but I do remember sharing a room with my sister
and she would say, hey, I'm going to, I'm going to sneak out the window.
Don't tell mom and dad.
I'm going to be like, okay.
Okay.
Okay.
Secret safe.
Well, I'll keep anything you want, Secret, like I'm on your team.
I got you.
Let me hang out.
Yeah.
Please.
I'll do anything you want me to do.
And then she and her friend one time got very, very sunburnt.
And she said, you're going to need to rub alo on us.
And I was like, okay, I will.
I'll do.
I mean, I was really like, please, please, let me do anything with you.
So there was in the backyard of all the houses, there was an easement behind.
So you'd have the street, little front yard, the house, and they had these long backyards
that would end at this easement that connected, so everybody had like back gates, which was
cool.
So we would all just like run in that easement area behind all of the yards.
That's cool.
We'd all meet up and hang out and I had a big pile of dirt.
I learned how to do some civil engineering and then I spent a lot of time building tunnels
and rivers and dragging the hose all the way out there so I could make, you know, trenches
and stuff.
Oh, yeah.
My brother one time, because my mom worked right behind, or she worked in front of a railroad
track.
And so my brother one time was like, you got to come check this out and showed me how
you could flatten a penny on the railroad track.
So I did a lot of play time on the railroad tracks.
Safe.
Very safe.
Totally safe.
Yep.
But again, I was like, yes, what do you, do you want me to show you something cool?
Yes.
Yes, I do.
What are you doing?
Nothing.
Nothing.
Would you rather this or that?
Would you rather live on a houseboat or an RV?
I'm going to let you answer first because I just go ahead and answer and then I'll tell
you.
I'm going to pick an RV.
Okay.
Because I think that it's going to be easier.
And I think that you can get around easier.
And I don't think I would like to live on the water all the time.
All right.
I'm choosing RV.
Why?
I did some research.
And I'll now share with you the results of my research.
The largest lake in the state of Idaho, do you know which one it is?
The largest lake?
Yeah.
Uh, Pete's puddle?
No, it's not Pete's puddle in island part.
No, it's a lake ponderay, which is near Sandpoint, Sandpoint is right next to it.
So it's up in the panhandle.
It is the largest lake in the state of Idaho and it is like the 40th largest lake in the
United States.
Okay.
Lake Superior is the largest lake in I told you I did research.
So Lake Ponderay is a surface area of 148 square miles.
Lake Superior is 31,000 square miles, almost 32,000 square miles.
It's very large Lake Superior.
Okay.
I were going to be on a houseboat.
I would want it to be where I could have some room to explore.
Okay.
But also Lake Superior is cold in the winter time, like very, because of how northern it
is.
Okay.
So I don't want to be there.
So then I thought, well, maybe I want to be like on Lake Powell, right?
Which sounds nice.
It's got a good surface area.
It's got 254 square miles.
So it's a little bigger than Ponderay at 148.
And I get to see some stuff, but it's losing water quickly.
It's just drying up, which is sad news for Lake Powell.
But I don't think I want to be in any of those situations locked into such a small geography.
In an RV, like a van life RV, think of all the places and miles I could go over the
place.
Exactly.
So for me, I'm choosing the RV, because I don't want to be locked into at most a few
thousand square miles to it.
I feel like it'd be claustrophobic on a houseboat, more claustrophobic than an RV.
Have you seen like some of the modern ones?
Yeah.
I mean, they're nice.
Like some of the old ones, the little shack on a pontoon, that's not it.
I don't want to shack on a pontoon, but like a 2026 houseboat, they're not bad.
Like they're, they're pretty luxury.
I mean, they're like, what is this?
Plus, if you're on, if you're on water all the time, guess what, you're going to get
barnacles.
Oh, you love barnacles.
And guess what?
I hate.
I mean, there are, there's a problem with muscles, the zebra muscle that we're trying
to keep out of our waters, for example.
So there are indeed muscles that happen in certain waters, but, but we're trying to keep
that out.
And so far, I think have been successful at keeping those, those muscles at bay.
But the new, look at the new 2026 houseboats, they're like a yacht, but square, like a
square yacht.
It's crazy.
Those are crazy.
Yeah.
I'm still going RV.
Oh, me too, but also some of them have a little garage for your jet ski, which is kind
of exciting.
Hmm.
I know.
I'm not trying to talk you out of RV.
I think that's a better choice, because we can go anywhere and rent a jet ski and check
out some water, but I don't want to live on the water and be stuck in this geography
of a few thousand square miles.
I agree with it.
I'd like to be out exploring lots of different mountains, right?
I find them on the same decision.
All right.
Very good.
And that's how we do it.
Look at us.
Look at us.
Look at this or that.
Do you want to go to some isolated islands with me?
I mean, sure.
Isolated in meaning their abandoned.
They were once lived in, but they have since been abandoned.
Now your, the public is not allowed to go there.
Interesting.
Do you wanna go there?
Like, swear, which one?
Well, one is North Brother Island.
This is in America.
North Brother?
North Brother Island, yeah.
It's right in between Rikers Island and Manhattan.
Okay, so that's New York, formerly home
of the Riverside Hospital, a quarantine facility
for infectious diseases, like smallpox
tuberculosis.
And typhoid.
Typhoid Mary lived there for 26 years.
Yeah.
It is now a hazardous, overgrown bird sanctuary
closed to the public, managed by the New York City Parks.
I kinda wanna go there, though.
That's creepy.
I know.
I don't think I want to go to North Brother Island.
I do.
Why was it abandoned?
I'll tell you why.
It was abandoned primarily due to high operational costs
and impracticality after its final usage
as a drug rehab center.
It closed in 1963.
Okay.
And then it talks more about the infectious disease thing.
Okay.
Wanna go to there?
No.
Okay.
What's another one?
The other one is Haviglia Island in Italy.
I saw that one.
For now, I'm saying that's one totally wrong.
But, yeah.
It is a small abandoned island in Italy,
widely considered one of the most haunted locations
due to the dark history as a plague quarantine station
and a psychiatric asylum.
Why were they building this stuff on islands?
I don't know, but don't you wanna go?
What's that movie?
Is it Shudder Island?
Is that the one?
Oh, yeah.
With the United States.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Why were they isolating on islands like this?
Because they had all of these contagious diseases.
I understand that.
So they said shuffle these people off to these islands
so that we can keep them quarantined.
And then, you know.
Oh, man.
It was this one.
The one in Italy was a quarantine
for ships carrying the bubonic plague.
Yeah.
And it is estimated that a hundred thousand
or more people are buried there.
How?
I don't know.
It's a small island.
Do you know how old this island is?
Yeah.
It was settled in the ninth century.
Yeah.
It was populated until 1379.
Yeah.
I know.
That's wise.
And then they had the bubonic plague people there
from 1793 until 1814.
Correct.
And then it was an asylum in 1922.
And then it closed in 1968.
So it was an asylum for 46 years.
I know.
And now it is abandoned, ruined,
and largely forbidden to tourists
though it has been considered for redevelopment.
I want to go.
Oh, do not do that.
The poltergeists, can you imagine?
Do not build upon that land.
I want to go there so bad.
You do?
I do.
I just won because it's forbidden.
And when somebody says you can't do something,
then that's all I want to do is do the thing.
So when people are like, you can't go there.
I'm like, man, I kind of want to go there.
So access is officially prohibited.
There is no public transport,
although some private unofficial boat tours
can be arranged according to the visit Italy's Facebook page.
Yeah.
They've got some pictures of it and stuff.
It's horrifying.
I know.
I know.
It's crazy.
And that's why it's so cool because it's so creepy.
Like plague doctor masks on the island.
Oh, yeah.
Like, well, no, like that's what they wore as they were doing.
This is wild.
Like these isolation chambers with these big carts
that roll in and out.
This is terrifying.
I know.
That's why I want to go there.
Like have you looked at pictures of it?
Yes.
Yes.
I've done deep dives into this stuff.
I don't think I like it.
So you're not going to go with me.
This is not for me.
It's okay.
Guess who I'm going to take?
Emory.
And my friend Christina and my friend Tito and we're going to get a boat.
I will stay in Venice while you go do this.
Okay.
Because it's just off the coast of Venice.
And so I will hang out with the Italians and eat Italian food while you go get the plague.
I'm going to get the plague.
You know how long ago the plague was?
That's been washed away.
Pearl.
I'm going to tour this island.
And then I'm going to come and have some baguettes with you, not baguettes because that's
right.
That's right.
I don't like it.
Okay.
You can't come.
I'm going to tell you this about it.
Oh, so creepy.
It's, it has an abandoned beauty to it.
I'm looking at some like professional photography stuff that people have taken and, and posted
from their visit.
Yeah.
It's gorgeous because of its abandoned nature.
Right.
And I really do think there's something special about the way that abandoned places, the
vines that grow, the way things when they're left alone sort of become nature.
Like our friend who went to Chernobyl and took pictures of Chernobyl.
That is correct.
I think there's something beautiful about that.
I don't need to go there myself.
I do.
I just want to, I want to look at all of the things.
Yeah.
I wonder if I can get approval from the Italian government.
They're not going to because it is, it is prohibited, however, you can book a private
tour.
That's what I'm saying.
Yeah.
I, if I get approval, I'm going to call the Pope.
This thing was settled in Roman times, like this island is old.
I know it.
Think of all the history.
Oh, I want to go there.
So bad.
Yeah.
It's got the name Island of the plague.
I don't, I don't need to go there.
I'm good.
I'm so good.
So good.
Okay.
Okay.
If you don't want to go to that one, then do you want to go to the other one?
No.
In America.
I'm, I'm curious about touring like Alcatraz, but only because, like I've been into
some other penitentiaries and stuff, the asylum thing and the quarantine infectious disease
people.
I'm not into that.
That's a different level of stress.
I just would rather avoid that.
They're not there anymore.
Yes.
They are.
Hey, that's going to wrap us up today.
Yeah, it is.
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