March 6, 2026

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Woo, it's Friday morning, a very glad you're with us for the Reed Revolution.

I'm John Reed, and a lot to talk about, you know, I'm glad I'm not in the Middle East

anymore.

But yesterday I drove down to Norfolk so that I could talk to the Hampton Roads collection

of young conservatives who were gathering for the second meeting of this organization

that they put together.

And that was a great trip, lots of great people, lots of young business people who I think

realize the Democrats are going to tax the hell out of them, and they don't like that.

So they're being driven towards the Republican party.

I think that's a good thing.

I mean, it's awful that the Democrats are trying to raise taxes, but people who are on

the bubble, maybe not the big companies, but people who are on the bubble realize that

when you mandate a higher minimum wage, which most of them don't pay, but once the minimum

wage goes up, guess what, everybody else wants more money, too.

Not just not just the one employee you've got who's on minimum wage.

But everybody else wants additional money.

And when you mandate paid family leave, I mean, it sounds great, paid family leave months

and months and months of paid family leave.

For whatever reason, you know, your mom is sick, your dad is sick, your kid is sick, you're

sick.

I, okay, I understand, but there's a real consequence to that.

And if you're not a major major company with a lot of bank, it's hard to make that work.

And people who are, you know, up and coming, trying to make it work in Virginia, I mean,

I'm sure there's an appreciation for the emotional concern, but you can't run a company

that way.

And so they're coming to the Republican party.

It's the only thing about this Democrat takeover is that they never have any sort of

self-discipline.

And a lot of people who are Democrats don't have self-discipline.

That's why they're snort and coke and smoke and doobies all day.

And it's, you know, pushing the gambling, I mean, because they're undisciplined people.

And they're social justice warrior people.

So I think this is right, therefore we must do it.

And they don't think about the consequences that cause a thousand other problems that

they didn't bother to anticipate.

So anyway, go down to Norfolk last night and talked about the gerrymandering, which we

will discuss.

The voting starts today for this illegal gerrymandering scheme that the Democrats lied

about and they're now pushing through the, you know, the common theme is lying to you.

You got?

I mean, does that bother you?

I mean, I got beaten up on for telling everybody the truth.

I would rather that.

I have to tell you.

I'd rather have everybody despise me because I tell you the truth that you don't want

to hear than have everybody love me because I lied to you.

And then you wind up disappointing people.

I don't know.

Maybe that's not a good political strategy.

I'm not sure.

You know, maybe lying, maybe the Democrats are showing us that lying is the only way you

can get elected in modern America, but I'm not doing that.

That's just not, that's not what I'm doing.

Good enough a class night.

I look at my phone and there's an update that the Iranians have struck one of the hotels

that I stayed in when I was in Manama in Bahrain and the Crown Plaza Hotel.

I think they rebuilt it.

They've got this little complex of really high-end hotels.

But you know, they're, this is who we're up against.

You know, Bahrain is a Muslim country.

Bahrain is ruled by a royal family that is committed to Islam and they're killing people

in Bahrain.

And I was in Bahrain because there was an insurgency, a radical Islamic insurgency that

was trying to murder everybody who was a part of the royal family and to capitate that

government and take it over and make it a little, a mini Iran.

And of course, America has a lot of military assets, including the, what the fifth fleet

in, in, in Manama.

So you know, it was also an attack on the United States.

This is a stuff that nobody pays attention to.

When I was there, I kept thinking, oh my God, no one knows what's happening here except

for like, doctors without borders.

They had been hijacked to believe that the, the royal family was the source of all evil.

So they were, you know, beating up on everybody and was like, wow, if you only knew how

evil the radical Islamists are, they'll kill anybody.

They don't care who you are.

They'll kill anybody.

I lived in constant anxiety.

I mean, I still functioned in everything.

It wasn't like I hit the eject button because I couldn't handle it.

You know, you live with constant anxiety that you're going to catch a cab somewhere or

you're going to be walking around the corner to go to your rental car and you're going

to be kidnapped by somebody who's getting paid off by the Iranians who wants either an

American to hold hostage and try to get money or, you know, manipulate the government or

they just want to kill an American.

They want another scout.

This is the life that has been going on in other parts of the world for almost five

decades and it's still jarring when I'm in Norfolk about to speak to a group of young

business owners.

And I look down at people I know in places that I have been are being bombed by Iranians.

I mean, you know, they say death to the West, death to America.

They'll kill their own people because that's how serious they are.

And we need to take it seriously too.

And one of the things that's been becoming very frustrating to me and I again, I hope

it illuminates what we're up against with the modern Democrat party.

We should all be united in the effort to crush the Iranian government.

The Iranian government has been the source of so much slaughter and so much consternation

for so many years, decades, almost five solid decades.

And modern Democrats cannot bring themselves to support the president in his effort to

vanquish them.

Now, what does that tell you?

I don't think that that means that their peace, you know, the Democrats are peace loving

people.

Look at Obama.

Obama wasn't peace loving.

He just picked and chose where he wanted to make statements militarily and Republicans

largely supported Obama.

I mean, you tell me if I'm wrong, I don't remember Republicans condemning Barack Obama

for going after terrorists and for bombing groups of terrorists and killing them.

Am I remembering that correctly?

Republicans were supportive of that, even if they didn't like Barack Obama, even if they

didn't agree with his domestic policies and if they didn't agree with, you know, the

pallet of millions of dollars to the Iranians.

When the president of another party took action to go after terrorists, I think if I remember

correctly, Republicans were on board with that.

Why can't Democrats do that with Donald Trump because they hate him so much and they really

don't care what the end result is because the new leadership of the Democrat party is

all about power that has nothing to do with making life more affordable for you.

God, I'm so sorry if you were fooled by that.

It has nothing to do with making life safer for you domestically or internationally.

It's about winning power.

So if they have to criticize Donald Trump in the middle of a terrible and important

war, they will do that in order to gain power and to hell with all the Americans overseas

and to hell with our economic viability overseas and our safety domestically.

This is a political play.

You don't want people like that in office.

You just can't put people like that in office and I'm going to say it.

That's Tim Cain and that's Mark Warner, our U.S. senators.

I mean, you know, Mark Warner and Tim Cain ultimately broke on shutting down the government,

but they shut down the government for political reasons.

So you know, in one breath, remember this, remember this.

They were complaining about how the government shutdown was just really hurting Virginia's

economy.

True.

True.

I mean, we've got enough people who are a part of the government infrastructure that they

count on those checks.

And so even if the checks come in late, it does have a negative impact on Virginia's

economy.

Yeah, they're still going to get paid likely.

I mean, some of the contractors didn't, but you, but it's, you've got to keep the pipeline

going.

They were complaining about that and then walking across the street and voting to keep the

government closed.

That's not statesmanship.

That is political gamesmanship designed to help them.

Remember it.

Remember who will sell you out for political reasons.

And then you cannot support those people.

I mean, there needs to be a sea change in the leadership of the Democrat Party.

Some patriots need to come back.

I'm sure there are things that we disagree on that around the edges here, where a good

opposition party would help, you know, the White House team make better decisions.

But that's not what you're seeing right now.

You're seeing really crass behavior.

That translates to Virginia, where Abigail Spanberger, who, I mean, I just, she promised

she wasn't going to do this redistricting.

She said over and over again, Jerry Mandarin is bad.

She supported the commission, the constitutional amendment, not a law, a constitutional amendment.

We're going to take this away for the politicians.

We're going to try to make this as fair as possible.

There's her tweak.

As good news for Virginia, the country, Jerry Mandarin is detrimental to our democracy.

It weakens the individual voices that form our electats, electorates, opposing Jerry

Mandarin should be a bipartisan priority.

This was the Congresswoman saying that she supported the effort to take this away from

the politicians so that when they were ugly moments, like what we're seeing now, the

politicians don't get to manipulate the maps.

She runs for governor.

She tells everybody she has no intention of participating in the redistricting of Virginia.

That was what she said.

I'd give the press credit.

They actually asked her a tough question.

Wow.

I thought the only person you're going to ask tough questions to was me, but all right,

fine.

You know, you asked her that question and she gave you an answer.

And here we are a couple of months later.

She hadn't even been governor for two solid months yet and she's changed her mind.

And against the actual law, which apparently nobody cares about the Supreme Court of

Virginia doesn't care about what the law says and about the calendar.

I mean, it's like the most basic thing, show me on the calendar 90 days.

And that's when you can, at the end of 90 days, that's when you can introduce the vote.

That's when you can start the vote, who cares about what the law says, apparently, according

to the Supreme Court of Virginia.

We're just going to, you know, I mean, who's really paying attention to the details?

I'm shocked by that.

I shouldn't be.

I shouldn't be because there have been several decisions in the last couple of years with

the Virginia Supreme Court, including, you know, the least statue in Virginia.

I know a lot of people don't want to talk about that.

That's civil war.

Let's not talk about it.

But it's bigger than just the civil war if you can believe that.

When someone cuts a deal, signs a contract, makes an arrangement with the government, let's

say you give something of value to a museum or you make an arrangement about an easement.

And the government agrees you agree there is, there is an agreement.

The Supreme Court has said those agreements don't count.

They don't, they really don't matter.

And you're seeing this all over the country now.

There is a new mindset that these agreements are temporary.

So I'll be, I'll be damned if I would get into a deal with the state government, because

they're not going to honor it.

As soon as you see a political change, apparently the deal doesn't count anymore, okay?

Note it, note it.

I just needed to know that because I actually take people at their word and honor and obligation

still means something to me, but you know, if it doesn't to you, let's just be clear what's

happening.

So the Supreme Court isn't going to make anybody in the state of Virginia actually obey

the law.

Now we're going to have this illegal vote, which does start today.

I don't think anything is going to derail that.

I don't think and the lawyers I've been talking to have told me, no, you know, if the voting

starts today and it has, it's now 10 o'clock in the morning.

If you're watching this live, the voting has started.

You're having this illegal referendum.

It's illegal, but we're still doing it.

Okay.

I don't know what, you know, if the umpires won't participate in the game, then I don't

know what you do.

We're not in charge.

The Democrats are in charge.

They get to jam this stuff through.

So here we are.

Today, people are voting on the illegal gerrymandering scheme that tears out of the Constitution,

the desire to make redistricting nonpartisan.

I mean, Abigail Lod, the Democrats Lod, who said that they weren't going to participate.

Now they're going to do this.

And the only way to stop it at this point, and it's a David and Goliath type situation

because the Democrats are getting millions of dollars from their friends nationally.

Hakeem Jeffries in the House of Representatives.

I mean, he wants to be speaker so bad.

And you know, I mean, let's be honest.

And we be honest with each other.

I'm not allowed to do that.

It's my show.

I'll be honest with you.

He's likely to be the speaker, which is stunning to me.

He's such an idiot.

I mean, God, just listening to him talk, it's, it's embarrassing that he's the leader of

the Democrats.

But I mean, we've got a drug dealer is the, the leader of the Democrats here in the House

of Delegates.

So I mean, maybe I should just lower my standards all around.

But anyway, this guy's likely to be the speaker anyway, just traditionally in the midterms,

the power, the party that's in power in the White House generally loses seats.

So they're going for broke to take the six Democrats and the five Republicans who were

in the current seats in the House of Representatives and make it 10 Democrats, one Republican, likely.

10 Kiggins, maybe, maybe.

If the stars align, she's a great Congresswoman.

I think she's very concerned about what's happening on the ground to everyone, not just,

you know, her little Republican group, but the Democrats are really mean and nasty to

her.

God, I mean, it's just unbelievable how awful they are.

Poor lady has to have armed security in her own hometown because these radical whack

jobs down there are stalking her.

It's, I mean, I don't know why she wants to do.

She'll stay in the Congress.

It's so horrible.

But anyway, she actually is trying to care about everybody in her district.

I think she does do a good job.

She's not a radical in any way.

She's ex-military.

I mean, she's a great Congresswoman for this, for this district.

She might be able to hold on some.

Maybe you wind up with nine two, but it's likely because we now have data that is so specific

that they've drawn the lines where it will be 10-1, 10 Democrats, one Republican.

When consistently across the state, you have 40 plus percent, maybe 45, you know, occasionally

a little bit more solid Republican thinking in the state.

Democrats don't give a damn about that.

They're going to stomp on you every chance they get.

So here's what I got to say to you.

If you were one of the people last year who didn't vote or you were mad, maybe you were

mad at me for some reason, you know, like my lifestyle for God's sake, please, I mean,

it's just the whole state's going down the toilet and you're going to talk to me about

this.

Okay.

Your call, you've turned over leadership to the Democrats because you stayed home last

year.

Can't undo that.

I can't fix that.

I warned you, but I can't fix that.

You know, like, and you didn't like when some, you didn't like Jason because of some

gun.

Well, I don't know.

Or you couldn't be bothered 45 days.

You were really busy for 45 days, you know, didn't have time to vote.

Every dead Democrat had time to vote from the grave, but you didn't have time to vote

in your very, very busy life.

Whatever the reason was you didn't vote last year, you got to vote starting today through

April 21st.

You got another 45 days to cast your vote and make it clear that you're not going to

tolerate this.

And if, and we do have some Democrats who watch the show, and I'm appreciative of that,

I'm sorry that I have to keep beating up on your party, should do some work in there

and kind of fix those guys.

But if, if you're a Democrat, is this what you want is, I know you want power.

I understand that.

But do you want to tear up the Constitution and allow this kind of power grab?

Because it's coming back at you at some point, you know, don't think that this stuff happens

in a vacuum.

The Democrats are also lying when they say, oh, this is only through 2030.

Come on.

Do you know anybody who voluntarily gives up authority?

Uh, we're going to, we're going to dump out all the Congress people now.

William Kiggins potentially Rob Whitman, I mean, my God, the guy's vice chair of armed

services, he's protecting Virginia bases and posts and making sure the contracts come

to Virginia legitimately, because we've got that infrastructure here, and you're going

to get rid of him.

So you don't have a John Warner, uh, as a senator anymore, who you still really look out

for Virginia from a military perspective, former Secretary of the Navy, uh, you know,

almost a little too aligned with the Democrats for my taste.

But you don't have a John Warner anymore.

Who are you going to to make sure that Virginia military men and women are taken care of

and that these facilities and these contracts stay in Virginia, don't go to Mississippi

or Alabama or Rhode Islander, huh?

Who are you going to talk to?

Who are you going to talk to?

You're not going to have anybody and no one's going to give a damn.

Even Democrats are not going to care who the Congress person is from Richmond or Petersburg

or Virginia Beach and not going to care, they're going to take these contracts and give

them to their friends in their home states.

And Virginia is going to be, uh, the loser in that no one seems to care because it's

all about political power now, not about looking after Virginia.

Don't get used that way.

I can't control what happens in Texas.

I can't control what happens in California, Rhode Island, Maryland, Massachusetts.

This is about making sure that Virginia isn't a safe place.

You need elected officials who are looking out for this state.

It's one reason why I do, I mean, I know this benefits me.

I do look at people who were born in Virginia, who have family in Virginia, who were established

in Virginia for a long period of time.

And I give a lot of credence to those folks.

Jones being the exception since apparently he wants to kill people who don't agree with

him.

That to me, that's a little bit of a disqualifier, but you know, in the modern era, who's

really keeping track of that, right?

But I think you've got a lot of leaders now who have no connection to Virginia, um, other

than they've been here and they made some money and this was where they landed in order

to try to run for office and they've been successful.

And the end result is when push comes to shove, they're not really going to defend their

home state because it's not their home state.

In the end, it doesn't really matter to them.

Go out and vote today and vote no when you get the ballot in the mail that is full of

lies.

The ballot is going to say, oh, this is all about fairness and don't you want this to

be a fair situation and don't you, and then we're going to return to normal in 2030.

This is really, you need to be aware in 2030, we're going to return to normal.

It's all lies.

It's deliberately designed to deceive you.

It is deceitful.

This is not about fairness for the Democrats.

This is about power for the Democrats.

And I'm hoping that some responsible Democrats will say, this is not the way to go about this.

It's not the way to go about it in Texas and other states, but I can't control them.

I can control what happens here.

We set the standard for the nation with a constitutional amendment banning this stuff,

banning this kind of political manipulation.

We should stick with our constitution and point to everybody else around the country

and say, this is the model that you should be using.

And just be aware if this thing passes and you lose all that seniority in the house,

we're screwed.

Democrats again, they don't care about that.

They just want power in the House of Representatives and that's a big problem.

And I don't think they think it's a slam dunk, though.

Barack Obama came out yesterday and I'm told Barack Obama's come into Virginia to campaign for this.

So what does that tell you?

That tells you, boy, they are serious about winning.

Not only they sent millions and millions of dollars here, so they're putting their money where their mouth is

and Republicans have not been willing to do that.

That's why I'm out every single day talking to people.

I've learned the hard way, though, if you don't have a couple of million bucks,

your opponent can smear you with their television ads.

And there's no way you can talk to enough people to make up that.

But I'm going to do my best to go around and talk to people like being in Norfolk until 9.30 last night

and then coming home and getting a couple hours sleep and then being back up this morning.

I mean, it's all on the line here.

When you get that ballot in the mail, don't wait, fill it out.

Personally, I would take it to the courthouse or wherever you can drop the ballot off.

And I would personally put it in so that I know that it's in there.

That's what I would do.

But if you got kids and you're running around a soccer,

and we got the Cubscott Pinewood Derby for my nephew tomorrow,

I mean, if you've got a busy life, just put it in the mail

and then check to make sure that it actually was received.

That's better than getting to April 21st the last day and not having voted

and then find out the Democrats manipulated just enough people with that mail and ballot

where they wind up taking over the entire state

and you lose your voice in Congress.

This is a very real possibility.

And you got to figure out a way to stop it.

And the most effective way is for you to vote,

for you to get your husband, your wife, your kids who are away at school.

If they're 18, if they're citizens, get them to vote and vote no, vote no.

You know, don't be deceived by what the Democrats are saying.

Vote no. There's only one issue on the ballot,

so there shouldn't be any confusion.

You're not going to be asked a whole bunch of other stuff.

You're not going to be asked about different candidates.

Vote no, a starting today all the way through April 21st.

And I'm going to remind you about this.

I'm going to go out and check the mailbox and a little bit here at my house

and just see if my ballot arrives today.

I don't think it will be here.

I think it'll probably be next week.

But then I'm going to update you on, you know,

what I'm dealing with here in Enrico.

But it's all on the line and you should take it seriously.

Let's not reward the bad guys.

Let's not reward the cynical deceitful politicians in our midst.

Let's return to some semblance of honor and do this the right way.

Let's see, real quick, I want to show you,

if you can do this, producer Dan, I'd like to show you the slow mo

of the little Ayatollah, Gazala Hashmi, our lieutenant governor,

who, you know, can't be bothered when a Virginia citizen is murdered

by an illegal immigrant.

She can't be bothered by a reporter asking a question

about whether we should deport the illegal immigrant

and cooperate with federal officials.

Even when a 41-year-old mother of three is murdered,

Gazala Hashmi just can't.

Oh, she can't be bothered by that.

Well, producer Dan, is that going to work or not work?

Because if it's not, then we'll take a break

and we'll come back and try to figure that out.

You want to text me and let me know?

And let's see here.

Maybe you want to text me and I just thought this.

Hold on, I'm, hold on, hold on.

Well, I'll tell you what, let's take a quick break.

We'll come back.

I'll share that with you.

We've got Elizabeth Pipco, who was the spokesperson

for the Republican National Committee.

She joins us to talk about the situation

with President Trump, with the Congress

and the mood of the country, when we return

on this Friday edition of the Read Revolution.

To the Read Revolution, I'm John Reed.

You know, during the campaign for President,

we talked to Elizabeth Pipco a number of times.

She was the spokesperson for the Republican National Committee.

Now, she can speak without anybody looking

over her shoulder and tell us what she's really thinking.

I suspect that she's feeling pretty good

about the progress that the Trump administration

is making at this point.

Elizabeth Pipco joins us today.

And I really appreciate you taking time to be with us, Elizabeth.

What is your assessment one year on about what

the Trump administration has been able to do,

even with the open hostility of the left-wing Democrats

in Congress?

Well, I'm glad you mentioned those hostilities,

because I don't think it's just elected officials

in Congress.

I think his biggest actual challenge

every single day for President Trump

is the narrative that is built around him

and every single thing that he does.

So not only does he have to accomplish everything

that he set out to do, not only does he

have to deliver for the American people,

but he has to work against the narrative

that the media puts out every single day

about everything that he does and make sure

that he's explaining to people why things happened

and actually getting a response out to the American public

from him and from our White House instead of from those outlets

that want to destroy his reputation

and kind of make the American people feel

like everything that's happening is going wrong.

It's unfortunate, but that is his reality.

He's certainly used to it.

He's certainly learned to the hard way

in his first term that that was going to happen.

But for him, it's not just about the accomplishments.

It's about making sure the American people hear

about those accomplishments at the same time.

So I think he's done an incredible job

considering those challenges.

I think when you talk about border crossings,

when you talk about everything that's going on,

when it comes to our foreign policy,

especially in comparison to what went on under Joe Biden,

when you talk about the economy, people

love to talk about how things are not affordable right now.

Things are statistically getting increasingly better,

increasingly better, excuse me, by the day,

compared to when Donald Trump first took office.

Last year, we can only anticipate

that it'll continue to get better going on

into our midterms this year.

Things are much better than we were when Joe Biden was in office.

Things are better than anyone could have expected

when it comes to things that Donald Trump promised

he would accomplish that no one believed were possible.

And I think for him, he's pretty proud of where he is,

but also very aware of the fact that he has three years left

to finish the job and do exactly what he promised,

the American people that he would get done

on that campaign trail.

Yeah.

When you were the spokesperson of the RNC,

how did you navigate this type of open hostility

from reporters who I think it's safe to say at this point

had no intention of treating you fairly

or treating the campaigns fairly.

It was almost like they were paid operatives

for the DNC working against you.

How did you navigate that?

Well, look, I think it's about going in,

knowing that that's exactly what you're about to face.

I wasn't the only one doing media, of course.

So for us was about watching each other

and seeing how everyone else was being treated.

I watched Lara Trump.

I watched Caroline Levitt.

I'm watching the president himself, of course.

And I'm seeing these people that I care about

and who I know very well being treated like awful individuals

before they even get to open their mouth

and answer a basic question because they're going in

as the face of something that these folks do not want

to see in the White House, do not want to see victorious.

And so they're not really in it for the same reason

that someone else might be.

You might get a journalist who wants to be fair

and ask a genuine question.

And then you get a journalist that wants to ask that question

but make sure that they get to twist into something negative

or that they edit your words after the fact,

even worse, which has happened to me quite a bit.

So I think it's really just about the fact

that I saw it happen all around me.

I was much more prepared to do the job now

than I would have been a four or five or 10 years ago.

I started working with Donald Trump in 2016.

At that point, I was incredibly naive

and I would not have believed any of the hostilities

that I later faced, I would not have believed

that that could be possible when I started

because I just believed so much in our country.

And of course, I still do, but the evil that I've seen,

the negativity I've seen, the amount of people I've seen

who would put really their hatred for Donald Trump

and Republicans above their love for the country

or their interest in seeing America succeed

really, really surprised me.

But fortunately, I guess you get used to it very, very quickly.

So I went in with the fact and knowing that I was going

to face some really hostile people

and knowing that what I believed to be true

was coming out of my mouth.

And that's really all that I could really deliver

and do at that point.

Yeah, you got to be nimble.

I have to tell you, to the beginning,

I knew that the ICE raids and the deportations

would generate ugly stories.

It's not a nice thing to see people have to leave a country,

even if they're not here illegally.

I did not hear illegally.

I was surprised though that at the beginning at least,

both the media and the Democrats

focused on the most unsympathetic characters

that were out there, people who were associated

with foreign gangs and had been convicted of crimes

and they acted like they were defending them.

Now they've recalibrated to show a little five-year-old boy

and I don't think they're telling us the truth

about what happened with that child,

but at least you can look at a five-year-old boy

and everybody would have some sympathy.

Did you encounter a lot of that type of deception

when you were in your role?

Certainly, I think for me,

it's about realizing the Democrats,

really anyone who opposes Donald Trump,

it's not just Democrats at this point,

but that these individuals want to take an issue

with anything that he does and says,

even if it doesn't seem like it makes sense in the moment,

that's what they're going to do.

We like to joke that Democrats very often

take the losing side of majority of these 80-20 issues,

whether it's about voter ID laws,

which they don't want,

despite majority of Americans wanting them,

whether it's about allowing boys into girl sports,

despite the fact that majority of Americans stand against it,

whether it's about these strikes in Iran that just happened,

when you know that the majority of Americans

understand that Iran is our enemy,

they want to take that losing side

because they have to oppose anything Donald Trump says

and does.

So I think for me on the campaign trail,

that's what I was aware of.

I knew that everything Donald Trump was advocating for,

the majority of our country wanted.

I've always said it, he has said it from day one,

it's not conservative, it's just common sense.

And to me, I wasn't really representing Donald Trump

in that time, although I was and that meant a lot to me,

but I was also representing the millions of Americans

who wanted to vote for the GOP in that race,

had voted for the GOP over the years,

and were crucified for it by their neighbors

and their bosses and their friends and by the media.

And so for me, I just wanted to make their voices heard

and let people understand that we're not the bad guy

that they want us to seem like we are.

We're just Americans who see things a little bit differently.

And if you look at the numbers,

the majority of people tend to agree,

and it's just really sad things have been framed very,

very differently, but I think anyone that follows politics

at this point is incredibly used to it.

Yeah, well, you bring up Operation Epic Fury,

and it is interesting, a few years ago,

I think most people that would have agreed,

you can't let Iran have a nuclear weapon,

and that seems to have been wiped off the table

with the narrative that Donald Trump is seeking another war

and that has, that he has no plan to get out of this.

What's your assessment having been through

this rigmarole in the past?

How do you navigate this situation right in front of us?

Well, I've heard people make that case, right?

Like you just mentioned that this is a new war,

and the problem is that's where the lies begin

because it's not a new war.

We can certainly debate how this should have been done,

what he could have done differently.

I mean, anyone that respects the United States of America

and our military, I get it, we are owed that conversation.

We should always have that conversation,

but this is a conflict that's been going on

for decades, right?

Iran has posed a threat to the United States of America

and others, obviously, including our allies around the world

for many, many years, and they've tortured and they've kidnapped

and they've murdered hundreds of Americans, if not thousands.

They're responsible for some of the most horrific images

I ever saw growing up when I was learning

our own country's history, and I think for Donald Trump,

this is the opposite of starting a new war.

It's putting an end to a decade-long war in conflict

and avenging the lives of those Americans

who were taken from us too soon by this regime,

obviously, also supporting those in Iran.

We know tens of thousands of those protesters

were killed by the regime in recent weeks.

Donald Trump does not stand for that,

so I know it means a lot to him to free these individuals.

And I think most importantly,

it's about future generations in America,

our future children and grandchildren,

not having to face the threat of a nuclear Iran.

So it's the opposite of a new war.

Ukraine was a new war.

What happened in the Middle East in Gaza,

that was a new war.

Those were started on Joe Biden's watch.

I believe that never would have happened.

Either one of them, if Donald Trump was in the Oval Office

at that time, he's put in every effort possible

to end those wars and others.

And now he's doing the same thing here.

It is not a new war.

It's the ending of a decades-long war, threat, and conflict.

And it's making sure that our future American children

will be safe and never have to deal with this threat again.

What do you say to women?

It's surprising to me the women who have just

reflexively gone against the Republican Party

and against Donald Trump for whatever reason,

who seem to be siding with the mullahs here

in the Ayatollah and the oppressive regime

that treated women like dirt overseas.

And yet, there doesn't seem to be at least an acknowledged,

but that's not something that feminists

and Western women would ever applaud.

And they seem to be on the wrong side

of this issue in my opinion.

Well, look, I've debated our own policies here in America,

with so-called feminists for years.

And I have every interest in the world in doing that

because I love my country so much.

And I hate to see the deep disagreements that we have.

I don't really have as much patience with feminists

when we're debating if the Iranian regime was good or bad, right?

When I see women that tell me they'd rather live in Iran

than here in America or that women are treated better in Iran,

I mean, it really just means that you're either blissfully ignorant

or you're purposely lying to me and to yourself.

I mean, this is basic common sense, basic common knowledge.

You have to really, really know absolutely nothing

and really despise your country here at home

to be able to utter those words.

I think it's disgusting.

And I just think people should open their eyes

and realize that the same folks that they're very often

debating domestic policy with are the same ones

that are very happy to burn an American flag

and march with the flag of the Iranian regime,

march with the flag of ISIS, those Hamas flags

we've seen on protests for the last two years.

These are people that are not worth engaging with.

They are blissfully ignorant or evil.

And when you hate America that much,

I don't really think that we could ever come to any kind of,

let's say, solution in a conversation.

Yeah.

And I know you've got to go in a second,

but let me ask you what you're thinking

in advance of the midterms this year.

We're looking at the gerrymandering proposal in Virginia

that could change the numbers for Democrats

and Republicans in this Commonwealth.

But take that out of the mix.

How do you think Republicans do this fall?

Snapshot right now.

What are you thinking?

Well, I'm a little surprised by how many people

are feeling negative about the midterms

for more than nine months out

as someone who's been in the Donald Trump orbit for 10 years.

I could tell everyone I have learned the hard way sometimes

that you can never predict the future in American politics

and certainly when Donald Trump is at the helm.

I have no idea what's going to happen over the next nine months,

but I do genuinely very confidently believe

Donald Trump will continue to succeed

and Democrats will continue to embarrass themselves.

People very often like to show me Donald Trump's approval ratings,

but they are, I mean, limits above.

Obviously those Democrats, right?

I've never seen an approval rating for a party be solo.

I've never seen an entire party really have absolutely zero

to offer the American public

and to continue to run on the fact that Donald Trump is bad.

And they are good.

I have all the faith in the world in the people of our country

who I know want to vote really with their best interest at heart

with the best interest of America at heart.

I do not believe that things are as doom and gloom

as they expect.

I understand statistically speaking very often.

The party that's not in power tends to do better

in those midterms.

But Donald Trump is the president

after the entire world won after him

and he was shot in the head.

So we have no idea what's going to happen

and I'm feeling very, very confident

in Donald Trump's successes right now

and how many more he can add to that list

over the course of the next year.

Yeah.

Well, you've stated up close

and it does seem like when he decides he wants to go after something,

he's not passive.

He's going to be super aggressive over the next several months.

And maybe the successes once he gets to articulate those

that'll move some of those numbers.

And I hope you'll bring you on board

because I watched you from a distance two years ago

and you really knocked it out of the park time and time again.

Elizabeth Pipco, the former spokesperson for the RNC,

the Republican National Committee.

I appreciate the chance to talk to you.

Thank you.

Thanks so much.

Okay.

We're back with more on the read revolution in just a moment.

We are back on this Friday and appreciate you sticking around with us.

I think it's very interesting to hear from Elizabeth Pipco

and her perception of anything.

I mean, you heard her say at the beginning of her career

that she was naive or not prepared to deal with a group of people

that you would expect to be kind of upfront.

I mean, they have to agree with you.

And you know, you're going to get tough questions.

You're going to get people going to ask you questions

that will challenge your beliefs.

You need to have thought through it enough

if you're going to be a spokesperson or an elected official.

You need to have spent some time thinking about these issues

so you can actually respond to people

who were going to challenge you on them.

And I find that a lot of people have done that.

You know, they're in an echo chamber.

Everybody just nods their head and says,

yes, yes, yes, I agree with you.

I agree with you.

Of course, that's the way it should be.

And you never have to actually defend your beliefs.

That you're not ready to be in public life

if you can't defend what you're saying.

And a lot of the folks who were doing communications,

that's just not what they're dealing with.

So let's, you know, Dan, I still do not see

the elements that you're showing.

So I think it's probably best for us just to go

to our next guest, former ambassador

and former governor of Virginia, Jim Gilmore,

who is very, very, I'm so excited to have you on today

because my God, things have really changed

since the last time you and I talked good morning

to you, how you feeling these days.

Good morning, John.

I'm glad to have a chance to talk to your viewers.

Thank you.

All right, so let's dive right into the situation with Iran.

I don't, I don't know how you perceive this.

You were in Vienna dealing with European powers

who most certainly had concerns about Iran.

What do you think is going on right now?

I assume you support the president in this,

in this action.

Tell me what you're thinking.

Well, perhaps let's wait and see how this hand plays out

in Iran and have a clear definition of what our goals are.

So let's talk about that for just a minute.

There's no doubt that the destruction of Iran's

military capability rockets, even their nuclear capability

if they can get to that.

They're armed militia.

The destruction of those things is a good thing

because that's why it has been empowering Iran

to extend themselves out across the Middle East and beyond.

And let's be very clear that the primary beneficiary

of that approach is Israel.

They're the ones right now who are under the direct threat,

not so much the United States, the Israel is.

But the United States has a long term interest in this.

We have four countries on the world stage

that are anti-American, Russia, China, North Korea, and Iran.

If ultimately you can take Iran off the board

and put a different regime in and make

them a more normal country that's more concerned

about building up their country rather

than exporting revolution kind of attitude,

that would be a good thing for the United States of America

not to mention for Israel.

But I think that the war still has to play out, John.

I don't think that we have a clear idea of what victory is

or what is achievable, and we have to find out

how it's going to be executed in the days ahead.

I know what they're doing, by the way.

Their goal is systematically weak by weak

to eliminate certain aspects of Iran's power.

And they are doing that.

That doesn't necessarily result in regime change.

Yeah.

They've slaughtered the first and I guess second tier

of people who might step in and navigate and manage

the existing political infrastructure.

For two months, it seems like that political infrastructure

was slaughtering the people who might be on the ground

and capable of leading a resistance to the radical Islamists.

How do you think that plays out?

Is everybody with any kind of leadership instinct

going to be wind up dead?

And then it's, I don't know, the meek shill on her

at the earth, you get a bunch of kind of random people

that we're not familiar with who take over

or the folks come in from Paris who've been exiled

or the United States who've been exiled.

Well, I think the meek shill on her at the earth

is not Iran right now who have been doing the protests

or in a position to take on the revolutionary guard.

That's not going to happen.

And I question whether or not you can make it happen

without putting American soldiers into Iran,

which I think we're not going to do.

And I think that I would not suggest that we do at this point.

So that leaves a question mark.

And that is, can you just systematically keep destroying

the current structure in Iran until there isn't anybody?

I still don't think that makes the protesters the government.

Can you parachute somebody in from either Paris

or the United States to take over the country?

Don't know whether that creates the legitimacy.

You would, I suppose, put in an interim government

and a couple are starting to try to organize

and then try to have a fair and honest election.

That would be, I would think the approach,

which has not been articulated by anybody, by the way.

But I would think that would be the approach

that you would try to take.

Now I'm talking about taking over the government

and building a different regime change.

I'm not clear that's the American goal.

It looks like it is.

But right now, the only thing we definitely see

is the elimination of Iran's military capacity.

That is favors the United States in the long run.

It favors Israel immediately.

When you were ambassador and based on the briefings you got

and your understanding of global affairs,

do most Iranians resent and want to get rid

of the radical Islamists who have been running their country

for 47 years?

Or are we, and this is just objective?

Are we seeing the protests

and doing what so many people in the United States do

when they see protests against Donald Trump?

They presume that that's the way most Americans think

and we're missing that there was a reason

that this regime took over

and there was a reason that this regime has stayed in power.

It's not all just slaughtering the opposition.

There's, is there widespread support

for this radical Islamic movement

and maybe we have been confused

about what's on the ground there?

That's hard for me to accept, but.

John, I think this is the legitimate question.

And I think that we don't know really the answer to that.

I think that will play out in the days and weeks ahead

as to what the exact answer to that question is.

Let's just talk about it for just a minute.

Tyranny is a terrible thing.

Once you have control of a government,

you have control of its police,

you have control of secret police and regular police

and it's military.

It's very hard for some internal movement.

It's more democratic to win.

They're less there are organized and armed,

which they are not in Iran.

I see no evidence of that.

Other than the courage and they may take over a portion

of their area and create a Kurdistan,

which case they're gonna have to deal with Turkey,

but that's another story.

The story right now is we don't really know

whether or not regime change is possible

in this environment or not.

And I think that that hand still has to play a giant.

We just don't know.

Now, look, just we are Westerners

who would like to focus on the protesters.

And I wanna just say a word about that.

The dissolution of the Soviet Union

was largely caused by this kind of internal protest type

of movement.

It was.

I saw it.

We call it color revolutions.

We saw it in Ukraine.

We saw it in Georgia.

We even saw an attempt at it in China.

At Tiananmen Square.

We saw a successful work of it in Russia

before Putin took over.

So this can happen.

But you have to have basically a breakdown

completely of the government

so that they can no longer exercise any control

in that country.

I guess that's what's underway right now

by the American and Israeli strikes.

I don't know whether you can do that or not

once again without soldiers.

I just don't know.

Yeah.

How is this playing politically

you think for President Trump?

Well, we don't know yet.

If he's in a position to have a great triumph

perhaps that the public will support him.

I mean, so far the polls are not favorable

to President Trump on this incursion.

But it's early days yet.

And we have to wait and see once again

whether it's successful.

Are you watching the military

and thinking that they're executing in a different way

than we have with other conflicts that we've engaged in?

There wasn't a lot of buildup and explanation to the press

and explanation to the people.

I mean, I think we knew this was coming.

He said I'm going to give you eight to 14 days

to negotiate and then I'm going to annihilate you.

But it does seem to be a different mindset

than what we saw under say George W. Bush

when he was engaged in these types of action.

Well, it is different and let's talk about the differences

very quickly.

I had just been national chairman of the party

and was very engaged in national policy at the time

of the Iraq incursion.

I didn't have any voice to say what I thought

but I thought that the Iraq incursion was a bad idea.

But George W. Bush led up to it with a lot of discussion,

a lot of preparation, a lot of marshaling of forces.

You saw it coming.

And of course, it was not successful.

They, yeah, sure, they toppled the government

but then they tried to take over the government

and do regime change and that did not succeed.

Let's look at where we are today.

We actually have less going on.

We didn't do a real military buildup

that was visible to the American people.

We haven't offered a real plan of action

that we're trying to execute to the American people.

And I think the American people at this point

are puzzled as I am as to exactly where this thing comes out.

It's almost like you're now revealed

that the cake is in the oven

but you don't know what it's going to look like

when it comes out.

And I think that's one of the reasons

why the American people are a little puzzled

by this whole thing.

So let's see how it plays out, John.

Yeah, I've got to ask you about Ukraine, Russia,

which has slid to a back burner status,

at least in the national news of late,

what has been happening?

And where are you on that conflict?

And do we see a resolution of that anytime soon?

Well, let's talk about the linkage

between the European-Ukraine war in Russia

and the fight that's going on in Iran.

Right now, the fight in Iran has done several things.

First of all, it's bad for Russia because they look silly,

because they can't come to the aid of their so-called ally.

And I would point out that last year that Iran

and Russia actually entered into a military

and economic agreement of alliance.

And now that's not happening.

On the other hand, this is not a bad deal for Putin.

This is actually a pretty good deal for Putin

for two reasons, at least.

One, it's going to increase the price of oil worldwide.

Putin, we have been dramatically trying

to reduce Putin's ability to use his oil economy

to fund his war machine.

And as a result of that, he's suffering.

I think Putin is losing the war and is going to lose that war.

If we stay the course, if Zelensky and the Ukrainian people

can stay the course, Putin is going to lose that war.

On the other hand, this war in Iran will boost the price of oil,

which will give more money to Putin, which will save him.

There's that potential that's there.

And furthermore, to your point, to come back to this,

this war in Iran does what I really fear.

I've made it clear to everybody for months and even years

that I think the European war is the pivot of the future.

That's where the real battle for the future rests.

Whether Europe is going to be compromised, intimidated,

and neutralized, which I believe is a threat

to the existence of the United States.

Ukraine is the key.

The Iran war diverts attention and resources

away from the European war into the Middle East.

That's great for Putin.

We can't send any materials.

We can't even sell materials.

Where our attention is completely diverted,

you make the point correctly that there's no discussion

now of the Ukraine war.

This is all dramatically to Putin's benefit.

So if I were Vladimir Putin, I'd want this war

in that the United States is involved in.

If I were Israel, I would very much want this war.

And they are executing this war to their benefit.

So there's a lot to still learn here

as to how it's going to impact things.

Furthermore, China at this point

doesn't look particularly active either.

But on the other hand, have I always made the point

that I think the Chinese are some of the smartest people

geopolitically in this discussion?

Right now, they can buy their time

and wait and see how this comes out.

You know, if this turns out to be not a good thing,

the Iran war, then that proves out a Chinese position

which is don't interrupt your enemy

when they're scurrying themselves, okay?

When they're hurting themselves.

So we don't know whether the United States

is hurting themselves in this war yet or not.

So sometimes, geostrategically,

you get something like this that's a big distraction

and one of the protagonists in the other conflict

uses the distraction as the moment

that they go full throttle to try to vanquish their enemy.

Is there a way for either Russia or Ukraine

to use that distraction to win and put that to bed?

Or are we still in the midst of negotiating this thing?

Somebody?

My opinion is the negotiations help put,

that I think that it's been continuously an effort

to really help Putin.

We need to be full-throated behind Ukraine in my opinion.

And it's not just being for Ukraine.

It's the international system.

The question is, are you going to allow Russia

to come in and conquer another independent country

and prove to the rest of Europe that he can do it?

Are you going to enable him to go into the Baltic States

and even to the Scandinavian States?

Are you going to enable him to do those things?

I think that that is a direct threat

to the existence of the United States.

I've made that clear.

What's the answer?

I think the Russians are not able,

at this point, to conquer Ukraine.

They've proven it's been four years,

they haven't gotten anything really.

They've gotten gains and they're doing terrible things

in those ill gotten areas, by the way, terrible things.

They're committing war crimes all over the place there.

And it's a terrible thing,

but they're not going to be able to conquer

the rest of Ukraine.

Even the Europeans at this point have stepped up,

and that's under the president's leadership.

They have stepped up their own capacity

and they're helping Ukraine at this point

in a way that America is no longer is.

Yeah.

I don't want to run out of time

without bringing you back to Virginia politics.

And today is the day that early voting starts

for this gerrymandering scheme

that the Democrats are jamming through here in Virginia.

Even though they said they weren't going to do it,

and Abigail Spanberger, the new governor,

said she wasn't going to do it.

Now she's going to do it.

What do you make of this?

It's one of the greatest and historic wrongdoings

that we've seen in Virginia, maybe in generations.

You know, this is an effort to disenfranchise

the people of Virginia

and to manipulate the election,

to make it a 10 to 1 Democratic result.

It's wrong, it's completely wrong.

I hope every single person watching your broadcast

will get themselves out to the early voting polls

and vote no for this.

It must be defeated.

If it's successful,

I believe it changes Virginia politics for generation.

Now a couple of things here.

If you really look at this,

once they do this wrongdoing thing,

and they manipulate the elections,

they undermine people's confidence

in democracy in Virginia all the way to begin with.

They do that.

Second of all, once these Democrats are in office,

do you really think they're going to go back

to some other kind of more fair redistricting over again?

As you believe that,

I got a bridge to say in Brooklyn,

that's not going to happen.

Furthermore, Governor Spanberger,

who of course violated their own principles

and all other principles democracy

by supporting this redistricting,

you know, she says, don't you worry.

I tell you now as Governor of Virginia,

we'll go back to the right thing again.

I remind your viewers and everybody else

of the one-term governorship.

When this comes to back up on the issue again,

in the census of 2030,

she will be long gone.

She will not be governor,

and we'll have nothing to say about this.

Who knows what that next governor will do?

It may be even more radical governor

than the Democratic House of delegates

that becomes governor of Virginia, for example.

Or Lutinigar Hashemir, somebody like that,

who's even more radical.

So who knows what's going to happen then,

but these reassurances to the people of Virginia

is baloney.

This is wrongdoing, it's corrupt,

it's filthy politics,

the people of Virginia have an opportunity now

to vote it down,

but you know, that rests with the people of Virginia.

If they vote yes on this thing,

they are basically surrendering

their own democracy in Virginia, in my view.

Or if they stay home,

I mean, you think Republicans are motivated,

they're paying attention,

and clearly last year a lot of Trump voters,

I mean, you could list five or six reasons,

why maybe they stayed home,

I don't think anybody's determined exactly what happened,

but they didn't turn out.

So do you think that this animates them,

are they aware of it?

What's your sense?

I look, I think when some series is entitled

to a lot of credit for running,

she ran very vigorously,

but I think that most of us would agree

that she never really settled on a theme,

that of election that would persuade the people

of Virginia to vote for her.

Now, Spanberger was selling snake oil, okay?

But she at least was trying to do that.

She was doing that.

So this is my way of saying,

this redistricting thing is a clear message

of the Republican Party.

And frankly, of the independence of Virginia,

and everybody in Virginia that believes in democracy,

this is a mission that we have right now.

Unfortunately, it's all of a sudden upon us

with this crazy early voting thing,

we no longer have election day, we have election month,

we have election month and a half.

So people may go to the polls today and vote yes for this,

based upon the misleading information on the ballot

from the governor, from the special television ads

that are on right now.

And then as it begins to sink in 30 days from now,

that this is undemocratic,

it'll be too late, people have already voted.

Too late.

So that's a court of a problem.

So anyway, to your point,

this is the time to motivate every Virginia

and especially Republicans to get up out of their chairs

and go vote no.

No.

You mentioned the wording on the referendum,

which is clearly one sided and says,

it talks all about fairness when I don't see

how you can make the case for fairness.

Is it illegal for the government

to present wording that is that one sided

and it doesn't appear to be any objective attempt

at neutrality here.

And I have a hard time believing that that is kosher

with the law or am I missing some?

Well, I think you would have to have a court rule

on something like that.

And the courts have made it very clear

that they don't want to intervene into the politics.

Well, it's a long, it's a long standing legal principle

that the courts tried to avoid getting into the politics

of partisan politics of any state.

That's true at the federal level

and also true at the state level.

But the point is not so much that they've done that now.

They've basically said,

look, you can go forward with the referendum.

And so there you are.

So the burden is no longer on the courts to try to fix this.

The burden is on the people of Virginia to say,

respond.

I'd be cheated here by this language.

How dare they put this kind of language up and mislead me?

How dare they put on these fake ads

and try to mislead me?

How dare governors, fan burger, do a backflip

and do this endorsement of this?

The courts are basically saying,

hey, look, it's up to the people of Virginia

to do their duty.

And that's what I'm saying right now.

Yeah.

Well, now you were attorney general.

You were commonwealth attorney and a practicing lawyer.

Do drill in with on this for just a second with me.

I would have thought that the rules

and the law mandating certain dates

before this could be presented to the public

would be clear and that the courts would say,

hey, we're not issuing an opinion on whether this is good or bad

or any of that.

But you would least have to look at the calendar

and follow the dates that you agreed to

when you created this law and you haven't done that.

So, you know what?

You can still repeal the constitutional amendment.

You can do whatever you want,

but you've got to obey the basic structure

that's been put in place.

And they wouldn't even get involved in that.

Am I wrong to be really disturbed by that?

As a former attorney general, does that seem normal to you

or because I'm mad about it,

but maybe I don't know what I'm talking about.

Well, I think it's all still pending.

I haven't studied the law case

because I'm my practice in the case, but it's my understanding

that the courts have basically said,

we're not going to issue an injunction against the referendum.

The legislature's ruled because the governor signed it.

We're not going to overturn that,

but we're still going to have briefing

and we're still going to have argument

and we still reserve the right to rule at a later time.

I think that is actually the status

of these cases right now.

I think that's right.

But then once it's done, it's done.

Not necessarily.

What not necessarily,

what I think the courts are praying

is that the public will rise up and vote no.

And if they vote no and defeated in the referendum,

then the cases are moot.

And the courts can wash their hands up it.

What a hit on their part though.

Very much so, but if on the other hand, it passes.

I still think the volleyball is still up in the air on this.

But then we're running up against the court.

Again, the calendar matters.

We're running up against the clock for the midterms.

And does Rob Whitman run again?

Does he running in this district that he's currently in

or running in some bastardized district?

Gen K, all of these people.

I mean, I think the courts in action here

to just enforce these basic calendar rules

is creating chaos that I would have expected

of legal minds to abhor and say, you know, it's up for us.

Our responsibility is to keep the structure of law intact,

even if we don't like the end result of what the people choose.

No, it's just positive.

It is what it is.

It is what it is, John.

The courts haven't created this.

That's the way they can.

But it's been created by the left wingers

in the House of Delegates and the Virginia State Senate.

And then the going along to get along

with Governor Spambert on this.

This would have been a place where the governor

could have stepped in and said, look,

I'm going to try to bring some water into this.

And I'll do the amendments that are proper.

But she's going along with this

because that's been created long before she got there.

And now, of course, it's a heavily empowered democratic

legislature.

So anyway, that's what's going on here.

That's what's created to chaos.

And let me also say, by the way,

that the main point we need to make

on this redistricting is this.

This is wrong.

This is an effort to disempower the voters of Virginia.

This is improper.

It's wrong.

I think it's unconstitutional.

And it's really unnecessary.

We, if you really begin to count up the votes

of the various states around the country

that are looking at this, the Democrats

have an edge, really, with or without the Virginia votes.

Right.

That's right.

But the duty here, in my view, as the former governor,

the duty is to the people of Virginia.

We are not, it's not appropriate here

to put together a system with this referendum

or otherwise, this new system that ruins

the congressional seats in Virginia.

That's the wrongdoing in the state of Virginia

to the people of Virginia.

Our first duty is to the people of Virginia.

Now, you can argue about what's going on nationally.

And, you know, Spanburg is playing the national game.

The Democrats legislature are playing a national game.

Unnecessarily, in my view.

But that's not their primary duty.

Their primary duty is to the people of Virginia

that they were elected to represent.

Yeah, there's a twisted sick irony

about the people who constantly lecture us

about protecting democracy, stomping all over

half the voters of the state.

I just hope people are on both sides

of the political spectrum.

Don't appreciate that.

And to your point, once this Pandora's box is open,

the payback is going to be hell in the future.

I'm afraid that that's not good for any of us.

That's right.

But look, this your podcast ought to be along

with everything else that we're doing.

And everybody else is doing across the state

on the Republican side.

And frankly, in neutral side, this should be a call to action.

Your podcast today should be a call to action.

People need to not only go vote no,

but they need to get their wives

and husbands to vote no.

And they're grown children to vote no.

And their friends at their offices to vote no.

Because there's a mission here.

And the mission here is to not allow the democracy

of Virginia to be impunity.

That's the mission.

And I'm shocked that we have to be talking like this,

but we do.

But it's a call to mission right now for all of us.

Yeah, well, I'll be voting soon and voting now.

And I know you will too,

former Virginia governor and former ambassador to Europe.

Jim Gilmore, thank you.

I appreciate it.

Thank you, John.

Yes, sir.

All right, let's take a quick break.

And when we come back, producer Dan rejoins us.

And we'll talk about the best and worst of the internet

as we wrap up this week on the read revolution.

All right, hello there.

So still flying blind a little bit.

I am, I am totally flying blind.

This is great.

I appreciate it, governor Gilmore coming on.

He's, you know, he's always, you know, really clear with things.

And this guy, remember, you know, he, he ran for the house of delegates.

He was commonwealth attorney in Henrico, attorney general of the commonwealth of Virginia

governor, the commonwealth Virginia chairman of the Republican National Committee, you know,

ran for president of the United States.

When we talk to Jim Gilmore, you're hearing decades and decades and decades of Virginia

based analysis of what's, what has been going on and what's going on in the state went

to the University of Virginia.

So you know, you know, it's unlike so many other people who are now in power here.

You're not talking about someone who just decided to plop in and, you know, 10 years

later, they're arrogant enough to figure that they'll straighten all the dumb southerners

in their opinion out, right?

I mean, I'm so, so kind of offended and fed up with this attitude of people who come

to Virginia and take it upon themselves to, to fix this society that they're fortunate

enough to live in.

They want to, they want to live here.

But then they want to take over a little, little myth to buy that.

But all right.

So I don't know how we're going to do this, producer Dan, but yeah, maybe you can do like

a voice of the blind for me because what I hope if you're watching at home, you're able

to see the video clips, but for some reason in my house, I can't see the video, you sent

me photos.

You're like, hey, what's going on?

I can't see any of the visual elements of the show like, well, they're, they're going

out and I'm seeing them on the live stream.

Nobody's complaining that they can't see them on their end.

So I hate to say the problem is your, I think it's, I think it's a, it's a you problem.

It must be some sort of rendering issue or, you know, storage space issue on my computers.

I don't know.

But we had decided that we would show a couple of different clips here, one of them being

punched the monkey.

Now, I know why are people making fun of me about being interested in punched the monkey?

It's the biggest thing on the internet right now, punched the monkey in Japan, biggest

thing on the internet.

And so here's the date.

I think we'll do this next week and just see this poor little monkey.

I thought I had found a friend and maybe the other monkeys were accepting punched the

monkey, but it doesn't seem that way now.

Yeah, it's, well, so yeah, so we have, we have a new video out and it's, it's not as depressing

as the, the previous ones, perhaps, but punches back him up and yeah, punches back to, to,

existing in a state seemingly of semi, or at least semi isolation.

So I'm playing the video now, John, just for folks who, well, for you, can't see, but

punches is down on the, on another level of this, this rock, like, uh, terrorists and

the other monkeys are all up top and then he's sort of, I'm guessing almost hiding from

the rest of them, maybe so that he doesn't suffer the abuse that he, that he previously

did, but he's sort of looking around and trying to stay quiet.

It looks like, but they still don't get what is making them hate this monkey so much or

turn on this monkey.

What is it?

Maybe he's too cute for his own good.

Maybe they think he's, yeah, he's a hot, like a mean girl.

He's hot, he's hot monkey.

Yeah, you know, Carrie Grant once said the world hates beautiful people.

Maybe, maybe, uh, maybe that's right.

It's beautiful monkeys.

It's a, it's a weird thing to say.

That's what we'll tell.

That's what we'll say about ourselves.

That's that if we're ever, if we ever get to feel like we're on, well, it's just, it's

just because the world hates beautiful people.

Well, I love that.

I think it's feel bad.

I'm pretty sure that it will be true in my case, but I'll at least say that's my story

and I'm sticking to it, you know, I'm pretty sure it's the commies.

It's as simple as that.

The commie bastards who were out there who don't want anybody who's going to intellectually

challenge them.

Well, now we have a couple, we have a, we have a couple of, of viewers indicating that

their screen is black too.

So I don't know what's going on.

Well, dog on it, what is the deal with that?

I don't know what, yeah, what's happening all of a sudden with our, with our, with

our, this has not been the best week for us technically has it.

Yeah.

And to, yeah, to be transparent, uh, because I'm sure people are wondering, where, where

is all the, where are all the clips from yesterday?

Where are the interviews from yesterday?

We have a, sort of a specific procedure that the guests have to follow in the process

of signing out once an interview is over, uh, Riverside, our platform, which is state-of-the-art.

I think it's the most popular platform for these podcasts, uh, but it's, it's, it's recording

everything in process as we're going.

And if a guest signs out inappropriately or un, I guess hastily, it, it basically paralyzes

the whole show recording.

And unless the, the guest is subsequently later in time able essentially to correct the,

the improper sign out, we have, we have nothing that we can edit or put together in post-production

at all.

And we're just sort of left with the, the live, un-edited, so busy or the show, so get

it.

So if you're ever wondering, what, Dan, stop slacking off, get, you know, chop chop.

What are you doing?

Uh, I'm trying.

I don't like to, too, my own horn in this regard, but I promise, uh, I, I'm trying,

but that, and now we have other people saying that the screen is working fine.

So it's, it's almost like this weird.

How bizarre.

It, yeah.

So it's how people can see it.

Some people can't.

It's, I, when this is over, I will shut down the, yeah, when this is over, I'll shut

down the computer and reset it and, you know, this is, yeah, this is totally bizarre.

Uh, you know, why don't we just do this?

We'll wrap this Friday.

Everybody's Friday.

Go and, and do stuff, but I will say this, not here yet, but somewhere, you know, we

want to show the video, uh, uh, um, next week, and I'm going to continue to point this

out to people because apparently no one else is going to do it.

The little Ayatollah, Ghazala, who remember, she marched with Hamas, right?

I mean, I, I had a couple of people who were critical of me yesterday saying, Oh, John,

what a sore loser you are.

How awful it is that you keep bringing up the Islam thing, um, sorry.

I, I think that it's an important issue, and I can tell you if this was Pat Robertson,

and Pat Robertson was refusing to offer, let's just, let's just take a similar circumstance.

Let's say that, um, a, a gay guy had been beaten to death in a parking lot, right?

In a shirt, let's make it a church parking lot, just a hypothetical.

Do you think if Pat Robertson, the former, uh, preacher who ran the 700 club, if Pat

Robertson was the lieutenant governor of Virginia, and a gay man had been beaten to death

in a parking lot, do you think someone might think, Oh, let's go see how Pat Robertson

is reacting to this is he going to say something really offensive and unimpathetic and

say, Well, you know, the gay guy got what he deserved, is that what is he going to say,

or is he going to say, you know, we're all a part of God's, uh, family, and this is

not right.

And we're a state of law and order, and this is not correct, which answer will he give

us?

Or will he roll his eyes and refuse to speak and walk by and then have a security guide

push the reporter out of the way, which is what Gazala Hashmi, the little Iatola did.

I don't know what Gazala Hashmi's attitude is, because no one ever bothered to ask

her during the campaign, you know, stupid gay people went and supported her because she's

a leftist.

And there are a lot of gay people who are, they're more committed to the leftist movement

than they are committed to their own survival in society.

So that's how dumb a lot of these people are.

Unfortunately, God, I just, I mean, it's, it's, it's crazy.

But you tell me, is it unfair for me as a commentator, whether I ran against this person

or not to say, and I think you should ask everybody who is a Muslim in the legislature.

I don't, you know, you don't have to be offensive about it, asking the question cannot be

what the offense is because asking questions is fair.

Do, how do you analyze what President Trump is doing in Iran?

Do you support President Trump?

Do you not support President Trump?

Do you, are you upset that the Iatola is dead?

Do you support the Islamic regime of Iran?

I mean, they were supporting Hamas.

They were sending money to prop up Hamas.

So forgive me, but I didn't make Gazala Hashmi go march with the Palestinian Hamas crowd.

She did that on her own.

She's out with her bullhorn screaming and yelling about the radical Islamists who were slaughtering

people with Hamas.

So forgive me.

I don't think it is inappropriate to ask that question of her today.

An objective quote, you tell me lady, but what you don't, what is not acceptable is for

us to have an elected official who's the second to charge at the state who just figures

she doesn't have to answer anything.

She doesn't owe you an explanation.

No, no, ma'am, you do.

And when it comes to the murder of an innocent 41 year old mother of three from Fredericksburg

who stabbed to death by an illegal migrant who had been arrested 30 different times and

the Democrats keep letting him out of jail, you know, you wanted to be the lieutenant governor.

You got to answer that question.

Why would you continue to defend this very bad policy that now in this one instance and

there are other instances we can point to, but in this one instance, a woman, an innocent

woman is dead because of your policy.

And you still don't want to work with immigration officials federally because you hate Donald

Trump so much or I mean, I don't want to put words in your mouth, you tell us what

you think about it.

But Gazala Hashmi rolled her eyes and didn't give a damn about the dead lady, didn't give

a damn about the law and her security guy.

And you know, I hate to pick on, I don't know if he's a cop or state trooper or executive

protection unit, but I've been around a lot of this stuff my entire life.

That was out of line to shove a reporter who identifies who they are, who is stand, I

mean, wasn't like he was up in her face, he held a microphone.

And the microphone wasn't up in her face.

He didn't rush her.

He was walking at a normal pace.

And my question would seriously be both to the security guy and to Gazala Hashmi, where

are you supposed to ask your elected officials a question?

You're in the hallway of the state capital, I mean, I don't, this is the problem with

Democrat leaders.

They don't think they have to answer to you for anything.

You are nothing to them.

You are a peon.

The only time they care about it is a care about you is when they can harvest your vote.

They don't give a damn what you think.

And that was clearly on display from the little Ayatollah, Gazala, and that should anger

everybody.

Even Democrats should look at that and say, Gazala, that was not right.

You know, and you did damage to all of us by behaving that way.

I don't know why I'm honestly, I'm waiting for the Capitol Correspondence Group to stand

up on behalf of their reporter and say, no, wait a minute, in Virginia, we get to talk

to our elected officials and we're reporters.

We're credentialed.

You know, you had to go through a security check.

But I mean, even if that was just an average citizen, it is not inappropriate for someone

to say, excuse me, Lieutenant Governor, this is Virginia.

I don't know how they do it elsewhere, even though I've been in state capitals all over

the country.

That was obnoxious and arrogant.

And that's the kind of woman this person is and you should know it and you put her in

charge.

And I'll be damned if I'm going to sit here and do the, oh, I'm not going to say anything

because that doesn't look good to hell with that.

I'm going to point it out.

I'm going to point it out.

We're talking about people who believe that government is the solution to any at least

perceived problem.

As such, they can accurately be described as government worshipers.

And given that that's the case, if they believe that government is something to be worship,

then they believe that people who are officials in government are rulers.

And when they get elected to positions of authority and government, they act like rulers.

But not people who are representatives who are accountable to the voters or constituents,

but people who are elite.

And everybody else is beneath them, you know, how do you question?

How dare you step off reporter, you know, who do you think you are?

And that is, that was the attitude clearly on display from Ayatollah Ghazali yesterday

when the, in the state capital, the little Ayatollah, when she's walking and just couldn't

be bothered.

I mean, can't even say that she has sympathy.

The crazy thing is, Dan, we're talking about a dead lady.

I mean, this isn't just a policy position.

This is a dead Virginia woman and mother and not one second, I mean, she has bad political

instincts, which I would have exposed had she not been allowed to campaign from the

basement.

I mean, how can you as an elected official not have the instinct?

I'm not even talking about as a good person, but just politically to turn and say, gosh,

this is a horrible story.

There's a lot to this, but I, you know, the one thing I want people to know and her family

to know is that all of us at the capital are thinking about her family and, and we don't

want these types of things to happen.

It's just a tragedy that it happened.

And I'm going to have more to say about it later.

I mean, just say that.

I'm making that up as I'm sitting here.

Yeah, just say that.

You know, if, but you don't even have the class or the instinct or the, yeah, to do

that.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And you know why?

Because no one ever holds these people accountable.

This was Glenn Youngkin.

Yeah.

Or when some seers or me, they'd be tearing us apart today for daring to walk by the reporter

and not respond with sympathy to a dead lady in her family.

This is how Ralph Northam almost ends up moonwalking in front of a national press conference.

Oh, that's right.

There's a joke.

Total joke.

Well, sorry.

Pam Northam ruined what could have been the greatest press conference in the history

of America.

Ralph.

I am.

Yeah.

I'm not going to sit by and just allow this to continue since apparently no one else

in the state has the guts to call out something that is so obviously egregious and disrespectful

to the people, to the reporters, to the dead ladies family.

Sorry.

Not going to allow that to happen.

And if you don't like me because of it, then so be it.

I'm going to call it out since no one else will do it.

All right.

Let me just share with you again today starts the voting for this gerrymandering scheme

that is illegal, but no one, you know, the courts are impotent or blind or intimidated

or compromised.

I'm not exactly sure why the courts are allowing something that is clearly illegal to move forward.

I'm not saying it's not, I'm not saying it is illegal to change the constitution.

It is.

You just got to obey the rules and you got to do it the right way with the calendar.

And Democrats have decided typically, this is how arrogant they are.

No, we don't have to obey the rule.

That's what they've decided.

And the courts that I would expect, whether you're a Democrat or a Republican, you have

to have a different mindset when you're a judge, you step up and you look at the law,

the very clear writing of the law and you enforce the law, but they're not going to do that.

So we can argue about that all day and all night, it doesn't matter.

The vote is going to happen.

I'm assuming the vote won't be rigged, I pray, but the only chance you got to protect

your right and your vote and your voice in Congress.

And quite frankly, the right and vote and voice of your neighbor.

If you believe in democracy, representative democracy, then this is a vote no situation.

You can't allow the constitution to be trampled on and stripped like it's about to be.

You have to vote no.

And don't again, the Democrats keep showing their hand of how corrupt they are.

They've written a description, which will be mailed to your house if you get the mail

in ballot.

And you're going to read it and go, wait a minute, this talks about how voting yes is so

fair.

I mean, I got to tell you something.

When people lie to me, I really am pissed, I'm really mad about it.

I would rather you tell me what you think and then allow me to say yes or no than for you

to deliberately try to deceive me.

And that's what's happening, a deliberate effort to deceive, not to win you over, not

to explain it and get you to say, okay, I'll go along with you.

But to deceive you, you know the difference, that's a different attitude.

And I'll say again, I hope as a political commentator or as a person who might run for

office, I hope I never get to that place where we're lying to people.

Let's not do that.

And you've got to make the statement of voting no to teach these people a lesson because

they're drunk with power right now.

And it's going to be very, very harmful for the people of Virginia going forward.

Please vote no today.

And if you can't get to the polls today, cool.

Wait till the mail arrives with the ballot and then vote no or go down to the courthouse

between now and April 21st, Dan and I will remind you as we get closer to the next

headline.

Yeah.

Yeah.

All right.

You got anything before we go?

I think they about covers it for what are you doing this weekend?

Ah, let's see here.

I'll probably be watching a fair degree of college basketball.

And I'll be on John Fredericks' sports show tomorrow as a panelist.

We were both on his Virginia gang today.

I hope that you thought that that went well enough.

But yeah, I've become a weekly contributor to the sports theme to show.

I think he calls it like the degenerate gamblers show or something like that.

Which is kind of interesting because I've never been able to, does he ever gamble the

day in my life?

Yeah.

So you know this is interesting, Dan.

You don't drink.

I don't drink and you don't and you don't and you don't gamble either.

No.

Do you play the lottery?

No, I play the lottery occasionally.

I don't think that I've ever bought a lottery ticket.

No way.

Not even a lottery ticket when it's a billion dollars and I'm making such a big deal out

of it.

Yeah.

I don't think I've ever done it.

I've probably thought, oh, I should go do it and I just probably never just never

end up doing it.

Yeah.

It's.

Yeah.

So I thought I was a little bit of issue with the, there was the thought on the Virginia

gang that, oh, you know, oh, this addictive, addictive thing, you know, I kind of have

a mind over matter approach to life and you know, but it's come this day.

But you can't, you can't do that with, with things that, I mean, I know what you're

saying and apparently you've demonstrated that a discipline, okay, the problem is, and

this is what, this is what I say about the marijuana stuff.

This is what I say about the legal drugs, you know, the whole libertarian mindset, which

I would be inclined to go along with the libertarian mindset.

But the problem is once you let a percentage of the population do something that you know

will incapacitate them, bankrupt them, destroy their health.

And then, you know, even if you don't want to pay the bill like, like you tell them, I'm

not paying your hospital bill, I'm not paying your rehab bill, you're on your own.

You deteriorate the society.

That's the problem.

And with the, with the online gambling with the phone, you know, one of the points they

were making today was if you allow people to gamble and lose money every second, it's

not even based on a boxing match or a based on, you know, the basketball games you're going

to watch this weekend or the Super Bowl, it's not based on the result of a game.

It's just losing money left and right, which I think is the ultimate thing.

I mean, like, I don't play the slots or any of that stuff.

You're destined to see a percentage of the population that will bankrupt themselves.

Like, one of my good friends, great guy, great guy.

30 years ago, he had grown up poor and, you know, had this mindset of, I've got to make

it rich, which is good.

I mean, it could have motivated him to do some things business-wise, but it didn't.

He lost it all, man, in Vegas, lost his marriage, lost the house, God, it was just, I mean,

I wanted to cry for him.

And it was because he had that kind of addictive personality and he just thought, this is,

this is the hand of poker.

This is the blackjack hand that I'm, this is, you know, I'm going to win on red today.

And he lost.

I mean, it ruined his life.

It destroyed his life and, and really did a lot of damage to other people around him.

And I still stayed his friend.

A lot of people did not.

I still stayed his friend because I could tell it had ruined him.

But I look at that and it's not like I'm trying to micromanage other people's lives,

but from a public policy standpoint, you know, these jerks went after tobacco, grown in

Virginia.

And I think they didn't do it because they thought tobacco was so bad.

I think they just wanted to, uh, bankrupt and damage white Virginia tobacco people.

I never spoke to day in my life, but it looks like it's turning out that that was not

nearly the big, bad health wise that, that say sugar is.

It's not, well, it's not, it's not healthy.

I don't think it's healthy smoking, smoking two packs of cigarettes a day.

I don't think it's healthy.

But, but okay, if you're going to do that in the 90s, but now we're in 2020, 2026 and

you're going to tell me, oh, let's legalize marijuana.

That's hyped up up, you know, I've never smoked pots.

I don't know.

But I am told that this marijuana, the modern marijuana is so much more potent than what

those hippie idiots were smoking in the 60s, like it's a night and day.

It's crazy.

Forget it.

You have no credibility.

You, you stomped the tobacco industry and, uh, you know, treated people like dirt over

a Virginia tobacco.

But now we want to have Virginia marijuana.

Give me a break.

I know what that's about.

That's about, uh, quite frankly, black Democrats who were trying to make a lot of money off

of black citizens and keep them high and voting Democrat, which is disgusting.

It's a disgusting attitude to oppress your own people and, and numb and diminish the

ability of your own people.

I want nothing to do with that.

I think it's disgusting and it should be ashamed of themselves.

I mean, I, I'd certainly make the argument that, that marijuana is, is legal under the,

under a, a proper reading and interpretation of the original constitution.

Uh, again, never, I don't smoke marijuana.

I have no interest in smoking marijuana, um, don't really understand my constitution.

Yes.

Yeah.

Both by, by means of the preamble and the ninth amendment, um, you knew where I've gotten

rights in this constitution or not meant to deny or disparage other rights retained by

the people.

Yeah.

I don't know that I'm going to go along with that.

Um, if that's the night, the members should be everybody's favorite amendment.

You have no restrictions on anything.

And then you want nothing.

Nothing.

Across the line of, of civility that doesn't, that doesn't constitute a breach of the

piece in there by a violation of individual rights.

If I walk out my door and there are a hundred people who are incapable of, of, well, that

would be the breach of the piece.

That'd be a violation.

Yeah.

But that's a, that's a property rights violation.

You call the cops and they get taken out.

I mean, a private property is basically the solution to all of these problems.

It's the, it's the panacea that if we have a true private property system, we don't

have these quote unquote, uh, tragedy of the commons where it's like, oh, well, you

know, it's, it's, well, this is all hypothetical then.

Yeah.

This is all hypothetical because you, you don't live in isolation.

I mean, if, uh, you don't live in isolation and we have unfortunately set up a structure.

Yeah.

That's where we've, we've, we've set up a structure where if you're a pot head and

it graduates to Merrill, uh, it graduates to Coke or heroin or whatever else to make

you high, then somehow I'm supposed to pay for your second or third trip to rehab.

That's a problem.

And, and, and I also don't want to live in a society where there are a bunch of drug

addicts who are stealing from me and behaving badly and making life miserable for me.

I mean, everybody doesn't have to be, you know, um, Mr fitness and we make everyone go

to the gym at 6 a.m.

And you're, you know, if you, if you get above a certain BMI, you know, you're presonant

on grotto, you pay a tax of fat tax because you're fat and it's, and we can predict that

you're going to be a drain on society.

We don't need to get to that place.

But I do think, you know, the substance abuse thing is very real.

The abuse of, um, of gambling, uh, I mean, do we just let the whole society go to hell?

And I, I would, I would just be balancing that.

That, that the market would solve these problems that, that if people understand growing up,

now it's, this is, this is, this is a process progress is always a process and intellectual

revolution always must proceed a political revolution.

We couldn't have had Thomas Jefferson without Thomas Coinus.

But if, if people grow up understanding that they are responsible for themselves, that

responsibility is a byproduct of their rights, that, that if, if they don't make prudent

decisions, they're going to be the ones who pay for those consequences of those actions.

Well, that would certainly be, that is revolutionary idea, that is average person.

That is the way forward.

I would say it still wouldn't solve the problem.

I mean, if you've got five percent of, I mean, think about a classroom of 24 students

in, I might call the solving of the problem by way of a lot of door, Darwin award winners.

Yeah.

But then you still got to watch people die and you got to, I mean, that's my point.

Yeah.

24 students in a classroom.

Yeah.

Remember when you were back in class, let's just pick 24.

My class is generally had between 20 and 24 students.

It only took one or two to ruin everything for everybody.

You couldn't do anything.

You couldn't teach the lesson.

You had kids crying and being picked on because of two little brats that, we're talking

about, we're talking about governments, government schools here, right?

Any school?

Okay.

Anytime.

I went to private school too.

Did that happen?

Did that happen?

How did you...

What did you want?

Any Christopher's.

Well, I mean, you had...

I guess I had a little resources.

Yeah.

You had more...

I mean, you had more latitude and more resources.

But I mean, it's just a discipline in society.

And I do think there's some things, you know, I don't think that we should say you can't

have a drink.

No.

I wouldn't say that either.

Unless you're right.

A child.

Well, even that, I mean, if you were...

I think we're kind of stupid the way we manage that.

If you're 16 and you're at a dinner and you want to have a glass of wine, that doesn't

freak me out.

The problem is our society seems to revel in the grotesque abuse of these products.

And we think it's funny and, you know, we're willing to pay for rehab.

We've just...

We've just...

I think there's a lot of them.

The people are not responsible for their actions.

My cousin Todd is an amazing doctor and surgeon out in Scottsdale, Arizona, the year that

he took his med board.

He got the single highest score in the entire country.

Graduated number one in his class and the largest med school in the nation.

Wow.

Ohio State.

And called me up while I was in law school to moan and complain.

I mean, he was basically preaching to the choir because he knew where I stood on this.

But he had the same junkie keep on getting high and falling off of his balcony, split open

his head or break some bones or whatever else.

He did.

He didn't...

He wasn't the one doing it, but this guy was getting wheeled into the emergency room when

he was on emergency room duty.

And each time this guy came in, he's obligated to fix this guy up, patch this guy up, and just

ship him off to go do it again and do it a month or two later.

And it's not like the guy could ever pay for what...

And Todd blessed his heart, was saying, look, I don't mind doing it once or twice.

But like goodness, if you're just going to keep on doing this, and I'm going to keep

on having to pay for you to subsist like this and keep on cracking your head open because

you can't stop smoking crack or getting high, you know, doing...

I'm sorry.

I don't...

You know, my view is if you can't get your act together, Darwin Award.

Thank you.

Congratulations.

Claim your prize.

But we have sent them this message that everybody is sort of as brother's keeper.

And I think if we start sending the message from youth, and it would be intellectually

revolutionary.