Marcia Martin - Author - Mark Stephen Pooler

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Stephen Pula. We have an incredible guest on the show today. A long-term friend,

a really inspirational, transformational, friend of mine, the incredible

Marsha Martin. So I'm looking forward to a conversation with her. We are streaming

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and many more. I'll probably forget because it's my first show back in a while,

so let's bring in our incredible guest, the incredible Marsha Martin. Marsha

welcome to Brilliant's Business TV. Thank you so much, Mark. It's just a joy to be

here. I'm so pleased and grateful to be on your show. Thank you. Well, I've

interviewed you quite a few times, Marsha, and we've knew each other a long time,

and I know you've got this new, successful book that I'm seeing it all over the

internet, incredible power and transformation. And it's doing so well as well,

Marsha. So I'm really looking forward to talking about that, and I've seen some

really big influencers sharing it for you as well. So let's get started with the

show. Share a bit about your background and why you wrote the book, Marsha. Well,

as you know, Mark, I was one of the key architects and early pioneers of the

human potential movement, which is the precursor to the self-help industry,

which is now a $48 billion industry. And I was there at the beginning when it

was still raw and real and dangerous with possibility. And I was the vice

president of an organization that started with a small seminar of 30 people,

asked, air-hard seminars training. And we now have in the landmark, which it now

is called, graduate body, over three and a half million graduates. And I took

the company from inception to it's almost the first 10 years. So I was

responsible for communication and registration besides being the vice

president. And I filled the auditoriums. I was in charge of sales and marketing.

And the organization went from those 30 original graduates to around almost

800,000 to a million before I left. It was over a 10-year period. So I have that

history. And as a result, then was very influential in the self-help

industry and it's building it. I work with Tony Robbins and I ran his company

for two years in the early 80s, took him national and helped him launch his

first book on limited power. I work with Jack Canfield and co-created the

Transformation Leadership Council with him. I work with John Hanley and helped him

expand life spring. I work with Bob Proctor and helped him market the

Hoffman process worldwide. So I've been an influential kind of architect of the

whole self-help and personal development industry for some time. And I decided

I wanted to write this book because I thought it was time for people to know

their history. How it all started. I love it, Marcia. And also I've been part of

your network. I've done many, many of your workshops trainings. And I just

brilliant. Like if anyone wants to go and check out MarciaMartin.com, I highly

recommend presentation skills, communication is absolutely incredible as well.

So, so many great trainings and workshops. So I just wanted to mention that

Marcia because we won't be discussing a lot of that today. But there's so many

great trainings and workshops in your platform. So that's something I think

is really important as well. What can readers expect to get from reading the book

Marcia? You know, Mark, this book has become magical. I think it kind of wrote

itself. First of all, it's my memoir. It's my story. It's a story of a young girl

who comes into womanhood in a man's world. And the challenges of that for women.

And the upsets, the downfalls, the victories, the successes, the losses of how a

woman deals in a man's world. And so I think it's very valuable for that. It's also a

story about patterns. You know, we all have patterns. When we're young, we make

decisions. When we're very, very small children about how to get love and how

to get attention. And one of my patterns was that I needed to be approved. There

wanted to be approved very much by my father who was a powerful man. But he had a

lot of demons. He was an alcoholic. And so I found out throughout my life with

many of the powerful men leaders in the transformational movement that a lot of

what I was therefore was to get approval. I was running out my patterns. So it's

also a reflection of what you need to know about yourself in terms of how to be

aware of patterns that you have, what to do about them. And it's also an amazing

story of learning to use your voice and to follow your own truth. Because a lot

of times we find there are charismatic gurus and leaders in the world. And it

seems like sometimes everybody else has a better answer for us than we do for

ourselves. And sometimes we forget that we have our own answer. And we follow

blindly to leaders with power and money and fame and success. And sometimes we

end up doing things that we wouldn't really do if we followed our own truth. And

it's the challenge of knowing when you're in the right place at the right time

when you're following your own truth and the way that it was meant for you to be.

And not to say that the ends justifies the means. So it's a very powerful book in

many ways. And great point about patterns as well. And it does

take you being conscious awareness. I think that's one of the main things. If you

going to look at your patterns, it does take being aware, getting into

consciousness and awareness so that you're even aware that you're following like

an old program or an old pattern. And also going within yourself to do that

inner work, to look at where you need to heal those parts of yourself as well. I've

had to do a lot of this much. So I'm quite clued up on this.

Well, you know, I also think, Mark, that it's the capacity to be willing to

listen to another point of view. Because if you're going to discover some of

your own patterns, it's good to have people giving you feedback. And if we're

unwilling to listen to any other point of view, except for the way we think it

is, we won't be able to listen to feedback. So it has many dimensions in the

book. And you know, Marsha, that is a brilliant point. We make so many

assumptions about others about ourselves. And I had to do a bit of CBT work on

a lot of my stuff, just like writing down real evidence and challenging

things. And eventually, when you look at the evidence and you challenge these

beliefs or these false assumptions, you start to realize that some of those

patterns or these assumptions, your perception was totally off. And so when

you get the real healthy perspective, you're like, oh my word, this was true all

along. And I was blind to the truth. Yeah, make sense, Mark.

Absolutely. And one of the things that I have been working on my whole

entire life and part of the work that I do in the world is helping people

learn to access their own inner power and to find their own higher truth. And

the voice that lives within them that has so much wisdom and knowledge and to

be able to trust oneself and come from one's own wisdom rather than giving up

our power to somebody else just because they're famous or they seem to have a

lot of money or a lot of power. But it's, it's a job in itself to be

aware takes a lot of work. And also recognizing the ego because that's not

your true self and that that part of you, you have to really be aware when

it's your ego or if it's your true self as well. What are some of the lessons

you learned about being a woman in a man's world in order to be successful

Oh, there's so many, many lessons. You know, I think as a little girl and many

of us that are my age, we grew up thinking the man was the head of the household

and the man was supposed to provide and the man was supposed to know the answer

and the man was supposed to be powerful and we were supposed to be subservient.

So it's different now, which is nice is people really realize the value of

women and how much power we have and knowledge and wisdom. So I have patterns

that go back to that kind of belief and I needed to get strong within myself

and discover who I was and be able to trust myself and to be able to get in touch

with some of my own talents and then to have the courage to speak up because

it was so ingrained in me that you be quiet if the man is talking or you do

with the man says and so I learned that I can trust myself and that it's okay

to tell somebody that you're not sure if that's the answer but you'll process

it and consider it for a while and get back to them. So I learned a lot of

lessons in that area for sure. And that's a good lesson in how to respond so

that you don't have to make a quick decision and agree to something. So I

learned that little way of doing that as well, Martia. What are the danger

signs that tell you that you are giving up your power or that your

organization is becoming caught like? I think some of the danger signs are that

you realize you're doing things that you wouldn't normally do but you're doing

it for some justified reason. Somebody said oh it's okay because we're saving

lives or we're making a difference or we're transforming the world. And so then

you say I guess it's okay if I do something that I don't really think is the

right way to be or the right way to treat somebody else because after all we're

saving the world or we're transforming people's lives. And so to really look to

see if you're going along with something even though the action that you're

taking is not the action you would normally do but you're going along with it

because of some other purpose. The end doesn't always justify the means. I love it

Martia you're full of so much wisdom. So before I come to our last question let's

talk a little bit about your platform Martia Martin because just because Martia

I did take so much from doing I remember I've been part of your your

monthly thing for years now and and when I first joined I did most of the

workshops and things but I think there's such a hidden history there of so

much value that people probably think paid thousands to come in person where

you can come and get all of these training. Talk a little bit about that

Martia. Well I have a platform my website is

marshamarton.com and it has access to all of my products and services and one

of the things that I offer is a membership club and I've been leading seminars

and workshops and personal development courses my entire life which is really

over five decades now and usually they were done in person live but I

videoed them all so I thought it might be good to upload them and create a

digital library of workshops seminars podcasts different interviews keynote

speeches that I've done over the years so that people could listen or watch at

their own leisure and their own time it's very inexpensive it's $10 a month or

$100 for the year so you get a little discount if you buy a year at a time but

you can go into the library and click on each of those workshops seminars

trainings different podcasts and interviews that I've been involved with and

listen and learn and there everything from how to build better relationships to

how to be a better communicator to training on sales training on leadership

training on communication and people tell me it's life-changing and that it's

fun it makes them laugh it makes them learn it makes them have new insights and

that they get different results in their life after just listening to a few of

my workshops and then in addition there's a way in the website where you can get

courses as well and you can find out about my corporate training and my personal

coaching so it's it's a great wealth of information if you go to

marshamarton.com and the lovely marsher also introduced me to the incredible Jack

Canfield and allowing me to get an interview with Jack and to do a big collaboration

with him so I was really grateful for that as well Marsha it's not it's not what

you know it's who you know so Marsha what is the work you are doing now this

moment in this world right now I'm continuing my writing and I'm working

in corporations on changing corporate culture I work with senior executives I

also do personal coaching individual coaching private life coaching or

executive coaching but I love my work in corporations I go in and I do one

day two day and three day seminars and courses for senior executives and the

results are amazing I just finished one for a 40 million dollar company who's an

AI digital marketing company in New York and I took their top about 30

senior executives and before they did the three day training with me they were isolated

they were blaming each other they weren't in good communication they didn't support each other

and the CEO said it was like a miracle after the three days with the training that I delivered

they were a team they were aligned they were committed they were supportive of each other

the blame game was totally out of the company and instead it was support of each other

and and really taking ownership not just being concerned about the results of their own small

department but really acting as an owner of the whole company so it's really amazing the cultural

change that can happen and that was what I did take from your platform the communication skills

even the presentation skills if you want to be a better speaker on stage it's just totally

incredible Marsha and for the for the monthly fee you could charge so much more for it as well

no Marsha who should connect with you who would you love to reach out to you how can people get

a copy of your book is it on your website or do they have to go to amazon well they can go to

amazon and it's sex power and transformation it's the inside story behind the rise of the self-help

empire told by the woman who helped build it but it's much more than that it's much more than a

history it's really it's a life-changing book it will make you reflect it'll make you laugh it'll

make you cry it'll get you angry it'll have you look at yourself in so many ways so you can get

it on amazon you can also go to my website and just click the tab the book and it'll show you how to

order it and also you can find lots of different things on the website there so for sure and then you

can get a hold of me by going to the website and connecting you can write me an email or you can

get a discovery call you can find out about individual coaching you can find out about the

work that I do in corporations you can bring me into your corporation I like to work with CEOs

who want their teams to be transformed and it's the results are amazing profits increase accidents

decrease support increases people feel more passionate about their their job and they're more

loyal and so the attrition rate goes down it's it's quite remarkable so all of those things

I would encourage everyone to connect with Marsha you won't be disappointed go to marsha martin dot com

that's marsha martin dot com marsha I thoroughly thoroughly enjoyed having a conversation with you

today so lovely to have you on the show and it's my first show back as well from um from I lost

my father just before christmas and I've had to change all platforms and everything and so it's

it's getting used to a new studio and things like that and so you're the lucky one to be my first

guest on after all of this time away and I can't think of a better guest to have as my

my opening show from having some time off well I'm so grateful mark and you make such an amazing

contribution in the world and the work that you do and the people that you showcase so thank

you for having me it's been a joy I do hope people go to marsha martin dot com which is ma

r c i a martin dot com and I I love that I'm your first guest after you've come back and welcome back

we missed you bless you marsha thank you everyone for joining us for brilliant business tv

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