Mari & Evan: He Didn’t Text Back After the Perfect First Date… Here’s Why

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Marie is on the phone today for a first day follow-up.

And she's getting ghosted by a dude named Evan.

So in a few minutes, we're going to call him and see if he'll tell us why he's ghosting her.

And maybe get her a second date.

But before we do that, Marie, tell us about your date with Evan.

How long has it been since you talked to him?

It's been four days.

Our date was three days.

Four days and you're saying you're going to ghost it already?

Yeah, are you sure?

I feel like if you don't follow-up the day after a date, they're never going to text you.

Oh.

I mean, usually a dead date you do get the follow-up.

Yeah.

But what if he's just busy?

Things just gotten a little crazy.

I don't know.

I think four days is a little bit too long to leave someone.

I did follow-up with him after.

So let's not get a response.

Yeah, okay.

Yeah, all right.

So tell us about the date.

It was amazing.

Like, honestly, too good to be true for the first date, maybe.

We went to this cozy little candlelit restaurant.

It was so cute.

One of those cozy booths where you, there's no way to not touch.

So our knees are touching.

We're drinking wine.

We're sharing apps.

I think we both.

I know.

It felt so romantic.

So it's calm.

Which I think is odd for a first date.

You don't always feel so steady.

You feel nervous.

But there was just this calmness about the whole night.

No, like, worry about eye contact.

We just felt so connected.

It felt safe, honestly.

And yeah, we're sharing food.

And I think we both kind of acknowledged that this could be something.

We kissed at the end of the night.

And it was just sweet.

It wasn't rushed or forced.

No awkward, like, well, it won't be.

It just, it also felt right.

What could the problem be then?

I mean, that does sound great.

And especially if you guys are feeling safe and comfortable,

that it's not easy to come by.

So what could have happened?

The only thing that I can think of.

And I think that this would be a silly reason not to text me back.

But she said that he was going to be snowboarding the next day.

So he needed to leave at 11.

Stop.

We were having so much fun.

And at 11.

I don't know.

I was just feeling kind of silly.

So I kind of put my hand on my head.

Like, if you go home right now, you're never going to see me again.

And it works.

Like, he stayed for like a bit longer.

He ended up leaving at midnight.

So I'm like, not too late.

But he just said goodbye.

And he said that he would call.

The next day, I texted him and I was just like,

I can't wait to hear about all the events.

They're like, have fun snowboarding.

And that was four days ago.

And I got on my head.

Okay.

Maybe he's like on a boys trip.

Like a boys trip.

There's no boarding adventure.

But did he tell you he's going on a boys trip?

Or was it just like a day?

Well, I assumed it was for the weekend.

And he has a full-time job.

So I said three out of the four days.

Okay.

All right.

Mari is on the phone.

And she's getting ghosted by a dude named Evan.

So we're about to call him.

And see if he'll tell us why he's ghosting her.

And maybe get her a second date.

But before we do that, Mari, why don't you break down your date

with Evan again for us real quick?

So I went on the first date with Evan.

It was really calm, quiet, romantic, intimate, so sweet.

We kissed.

I asked him to stay out past his bedtime.

And now he hasn't called me back.

Oh, bad influence.

Well, are you ready for us to call him

and see if he'll tell us why he's ghosting you?

Yeah.

All right.

Here we go.

Hello?

Hi, man.

Speak to Evan, please.

Is this Evan Voices?

Hey, Evan, how are you?

This is a radio show.

It's called the Jubal Show.

Hi, Evan.

Tina.

Hi, I'm Victoria.

And my name is Jubal.

What's up?

Is it a radio show?

No way.

Yeah.

Have you ever listened to the Jubal Show before?

I have.

Actually, yeah.

Okay.

Here are stringent.

Like on your phone or anything, because you can string it too.

Hey.

Side note.

Yeah.

I know.

Is that why you called?

Tell me to string your show.

Yeah.

That's not why I'm calling.

I'm calling today because we do a second on the show

called the first day of follow-up, where if you go out

on a date with somebody and they end up ghosting you,

they can email us to get you on the phone and ask

why you're ghosting them.

And we got an email about you, Evan.

You really?

Okay.

Any idea who would email us asking us to call you to find out

why you're ghosting them?

I mean, I have an idea.

But I want to hear what you got to say.

Okay.

Okay.

Her name is Mari.

Okay.

And you went out on a date with her about four days ago.

I did.

Yeah.

But I'm not.

This is funny.

I'm not ghosting anybody.

I dislocated my shoulder snowboarding recently.

Oh, no.

Okay.

So you're not ghosting Mari?

Yeah.

I mean, no.

I dislocated my shoulder and wiped out pretty bad.

I've been healing, but she emailed you guys saying I've been

ghosting her for four days.

Yeah.

So you've just been healing up because you're your shoulder.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I mean, it was a pretty bad accident.

I'm sorry about your accident, but she did text you.

Yeah.

She did.

But I've been healing from an injury for four days.

I don't know.

I haven't even responded to my mom, you know.

Okay.

All right.

Well, did you like her?

Well, can you handle that right now?

You've been healing for four days.

Well, yeah.

I like her, but this is kind of feeling weird.

Yeah.

Feeling like a little ganged up on.

And, um, yeah.

Okay.

This is, you know, I think four days is a long time.

Well, if you're feeling ganged up on right now, Evan Mari is

on the phone and wants to talk to you.

She's, she's here.

Yup.

And she wants to talk to you.

Hi, Evan.

Hey, what's up?

Thanks.

Thanks.

I'm sorry to hear about your snowboarding injury.

Um, but you ignored my text.

Um, yeah.

I'm sorry.

I'm injured, though.

And I've been dealing with a lot.

Oh, well, baby.

Do you need some help?

Could I come over, maybe?

What?

No, um, no.

I'm not less.

No.

What?

No, I'm, um, thank you for this.

I appreciate your concern and why you take care of me.

But I'm, I'm really best when I heal on my own by myself.

I mean, it's not, I'm not, I'm not trying to be funny.

Like it's down, but it's the two I am.

Okay, you guys are laughing at me too.

Well, that means just, you know, you, you sound like you're very awkward

about this situation.

You don't want her to come over and help you?

No, would you want someone to come over after first day?

While you're liking the worst situation in life?

Like, I don't look good.

I probably haven't showered.

Not gonna lie.

Like, I mean, if you're hurting, I want to be there to help you.

That's what happens in a relationship.

I can, I don't care.

You and I don't want to talk about that.

We're not safe.

You're, you're really sweet, but we're not in a relationship.

And I feel weird talking about this on the radio.

We're not strangers.

I know that, but that's where we're hiding, isn't it?

Like, you could have sent me another text and I could have probably gotten like, you know,

through like the cloud of this of being on meds.

Probably been like up front and been like, hey, maybe in a couple weeks.

Like, honestly, I don't think I'm ready to go on a date for a really long time.

I'm not in a good place right now.

Like, I'm in pain.

I'm on meds.

I'm not myself.

Don't take it personally.

But maybe not do this to the next person.

I think you need to maybe wait.

I can just come over.

Like, I don't need a lot.

Oh, no.

Not thank you.

I make a really good chicken noodle soup.

And my dad was an accident when I was a kid.

I know how to take care of people.

Uh-huh.

You said that you didn't text your mom back.

I can text her for you.

I can handle all that for you.

Just give me your mom's number.

Oh, no.

Oh, no.

No.

Boundaries.

Yeah.

This is this.

You've been serious.

Are you just like doing this for show at this point?

I'm being serious.

I love you.

And you're home.

I want to feed it.

Hey, uh.

Okay.

Evan.

I got to go.

I'm sorry.

I don't have time for this.

Marry.

Oh, no.

Yeah.

He's gone.

He hung up.

Marry.

Sorry.

That's just how he is, guys.

But you heard we'll go out in a couple of weeks.

I don't think we could.

Thank you so much for getting us back and gone.

Do you have a good friend you can call?

I think it's a time to have a conversation with somebody

that can just, you know, really flesh this out with you.

I have an honest conversation.

What do you mean?

Yeah.

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