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So I'm talking to you as the middle of spring practice right now.

It's the third weekend,

fourth weekend in March.

But the last time most of America saw you

is the ending of the National Championship game.

So very, very briefly,

one word to answer if you want to,

describe life in the immediate aftermath of that

and like realistically as a human.

How long does it take before you say,

all right, 20, 26 season, let's go.

One word between that time and now relentless

every part of every process.

And that's a quick turn the page.

I mean, because you're already behind on every aspect

of recruiting, right?

You're going to have to start your off season program

a little bit later.

And that's already mapped out and planned out.

But it still requires a lot of, right,

logistical adjustments.

So it just hasn't stopped.

And in a good way, you know?

But you do, you do find time to assess every game you play,

even that one, especially being the last game.

And even though your team,

part of the graduates and moves on

and some of your coaches move on,

you do.

And you attack that like you attack anything else

and find ways to get there.

What's the difference in knowing,

all right, we don't have another game after this.

You're still going to go back.

You're going to break down film pretty meticulously.

But you're not preparing that team for anything more.

So you're basically learning about yourself.

You're learning about players who are going to come back.

But what's the difference in that process

versus a normal game week process?

You know, just more time.

Because however, someone came at you,

anything that someone did successfully against you,

you're going to, it's going to show up again until you fix it.

And then things that you did successfully

are going to be attacked as well.

So there's not much difference.

There's just a lot of time where self-scout

now becomes part of that game as well.

So it's a pretty meticulous process

that lasts about three weeks

in terms of self-assessment, self-evaluation,

as a really sourced game to our players.

And then that backs you up.

So that's the third week of January.

In some cases, your quote-unquote offseason

is starting over a month after other people has started.

And then you're going to start spring ball,

usually like somewhere in March,

from your seat.

Like how does that affect the way you run an organization?

Yeah, it's different.

You know, we did a lot of research

as it relates to teams that have had

really long run successful runs.

And not just even in college, right?

No, I would say the NBA, the NFL,

the NHL, I mean, everybody.

You know, it's so we've been able to take a deep dive

into teams that have had long runs

and what they did the following year

and how it related to their offseason.

And so we just picked it apart

and put it together as we saw fit for our guys.

And so the guys that had a certain amount of plays

or over a certain amount of plays,

they had an extra couple of weeks of just regeneration.

I'm talking about the hyperbaric chambers, right?

The massage therapy, mobility work,

active conditioning, but getting their bodies right.

And the guys that didn't play as much

or just got here,

they went right into an eight-week offseason program.

And we've seen that, you know,

as we start spring ball,

we look like we're in pretty good shape physically.

And there's been no physical, like, you know,

banged up hangover, feels like our guys

are in a good place and are ready to attack it.

I know one of the things that had just driven you crazy

to an extent the last couple of years was

no problem starting fast as a team,

but then there was this point a couple of times

in the season where you feel,

I don't know if it feels a little off.

I'd watch you and...

Man, that looks like what it looked like in week one or week two.

And last year there was this point.

I was at the game, I was at the SMU game.

And it doesn't go your way and you're wondering,

is that about to happen again?

Is that in the process that happened again?

And then you end up playing boom, boom, boom, boom,

your best ball four weeks in a row,

culminating with that pit game to end the year.

You go into the playoffs,

you do what you're doing in Ohio State.

I mean, I'm on the outside looking and wondering,

what changed? What's the difference?

So, what changed?

Why aren't you able to do that last year?

Oh, I mean, I think that team meeting

after the SMU game really kind of changed things.

And I'll say this, we've...

There's nothing focused focus about our operation.

I think it's very well documented.

We work our butts off. We go.

And we like to take a lot of pride in that.

And we just weren't playing like we play.

We were playing hard.

Our effort, our care factor,

everything was through the roof,

but we weren't.

It didn't look like us.

And so, you know,

when we met and talked about those specific things,

all we did was take those first five weeks

and clipped out us playing Miami football,

physical, violent, tough, relentless finishing plays,

just cut the lights and let it roll.

And in Dead Silence, we watched 10 minutes

of Miami playing Miami football.

And by the time the lights cut back on,

those...

Everybody's eyes were this big.

Everybody's...

You could feel the intensity in the room.

It's like, we...

It's not remembering who we are.

It's realizing who the heck we are.

And going out and making sure that on the daily,

that that showed up in practice,

every ounce of the standard.

And so, that led to just a series of high-level,

physical, relentless play,

particularly at the line of scrimmage,

but also the dog mentality of our skill guys,

their physicality.

That was...

All that stuff was contagious.

And I think that combination led

to ourselves going on around here.

What's it like now watching the guys,

either who are still here on the roster

or who you brought in, recruiting in portal,

now that they're watching guys

like Ruben Bain walk out the door,

or Kim Mesodot walk out the door.

It wasn't like that a few years ago.

You didn't have products of an environment

that you hoped to create as finished products.

But now they're watching the finished product walk out the door.

So then, everyone wants to talk about,

okay, well, you got to replace this production,

replace this leadership.

Well, those players are the ones who have to do it.

It's spring.

So it's kind of early in that process.

How much have you seen people start to grab that rope?

Oh, I think it was happening throughout the year.

They were trying to grab the rope throughout the year,

but guys like a Mesodot and Ruben Bain

don't give any rope to grab.

They're going to stay in the game

and sit so different.

And I'll say wise,

because when we recruited those guys,

those guys would wait for us outside the stadium.

Right?

After just us getting blasted.

2022, right?

That's when you have to just turn over the entire thing

and we were awful.

And those guys just hung in their week after week

they were committed.

They were getting blasted.

They get recruited by other schools.

Oh, Miami Stanks.

They're not going to be there.

All that kind of stuff.

And all they did was just say,

let's go, man.

Our time has come.

And those guys, when they had this group of guys

during the latter part of the bull season this past year,

we had them for two weeks practicing with those guys.

Those guys set the standard every single day,

invaluable time with those guys.

And so they, they understand, you know,

not fully what they saw like,

they saw that on the daily.

And they saw the time they spent up here watching film.

They saw that their interactions with their teammates

were those of guys that were relentless about being championed.

So it was very effective.

That was in selfless contagious.

So it's, they, they've seen the standard.

We're going to push them.

And we're just going to keep our mouth shut and work

to achieve that standard during spring ball.

And spring ball around here is very important.

You know, we go.

You've been around as a player in his coach

like a lot of legendary teams.

But you've also, you've also gotten to experience

decades later looking back on relationships,

impacts you had, both individually and collectively.

Those guys, they don't have that yet.

They were a part of something that was very impactful.

But they don't have like the decades of perspective

to look back on it.

But from you, but from your perspective,

you kind of know we came in here.

We had to eat it for a little while.

We brought in our waves of guys.

We implemented our style, our everything.

And that's turned around.

And the first wave of players responsible for that

are leaving now.

How satisfying is it to know we're in the trenches right now.

But one day, 20 years from now,

I'll sit down with that kid.

He'll probably be an NFL Hall of Famer by that point.

He's retired from the NFL.

We'll be able to look back and say,

you remember early 2020s?

Back at Miami.

You remember what it was like?

You remember what it became?

Because you've been part of those kind of conversations before.

Yeah.

It's awesome to think about what is to come.

And we did build this team to be sustainable

and to improve as a years.

Go on.

And we don't stack talent behind each other.

We actually appropriately select and place guys in situations

and at position where they could continually grow and develop.

And we feel that we're a posture to do that.

Now, easier said than done.

Like you mentioned, these guys were hard in callous guys

that went through five and seven, seven and six to pop 10 wins

than enough to do what we did last year.

So that part right there,

there's nothing that can replace that.

There's nothing that could mimic that exactly.

But the way we work has to be that.

And there's no better way to get the best out of someone

than to provide them with the most elite competition on a daily basis

and demand their very best.

So that's a move that we're in now,

which is a little bit different.

You know?

Like when JJ Dunnigan walked in and practiced

when Jackson Cantwell walked in and practiced,

they were practicing with us at the Cotton Bowl.

Yep.

Okay.

The guys that were playing in that game,

and as Cooper, you know, Matt McCoy was the best saying,

all right, they were getting our teeth kicked in in 22.

It's so different.

But they want to practice yesterday

and all those guys that were at Pro Day,

every single one was out there coaching their butts off,

pushing and grinding on guys,

because it means that much to them.

So that's the part that we,

we really value that besides their success,

then changes the profile of the program,

they had an unbelievable experience.

Like their canes for life.

And that's when like the real magic happens, right?

Because that thing grows.

That thing festers in a manner where it becomes just very powerful,

and the momentum is something that you just can't stop.

You guys always talk about the style of practice,

the attitude of a practice around here.

People who have been around it,

they always walk away talking about it.

And yet there's this,

I don't know if it's a fear or a reluctance.

A lot of people don't want to lean into that.

Maybe not even because they're opposed to it,

ideologically,

but because they're terrified of what it'll do to their depth,

if they try and practice like that.

You guys do it,

and it's kind of a knock on wood situation

to a certain extent you want to be like blessed,

unfortunate in the injury department.

But like you weren't terribly banged up,

I would argue you played your best football

at the end of the year last year.

That doesn't compute with most people.

Most people would think like,

okay, well you practice that way,

and you're going to peak early,

and you're going to fade late.

So how do you,

how do you do one,

but then also excel at the right time

in the on field comes Saturday department?

Well, you got to trust your people,

and it starts with a great offseason,

because you have to be built

to be able to train in that manner.

Once you train that manner,

you can train to practice in that manner.

And we're really physical,

and whatnot,

but we're not reckless.

You know, we never,

there's a lie there,

and we come up to it

as to how it benefits the team.

But we don't go beyond that line,

because it's easy to be tough

for somebody else's body.

But I just think that,

on this side,

there's no focus in winning

social media in the offseason.

Our focus is to kick ass

out there on green tree practice field,

knowing that the only way to cut it loose,

I'm talking about legitimately cut it loose

on game day,

is to earn it out there.

And it is January and February and March,

April, May, June, July.

It's all of it,

and you can't skip those steps.

We have real legitimate buy-in into that.

And then as the season goes on,

and as your team is progressing,

you do, you have to shave certain parts,

but you don't compromise the physicality part.

You know, you may have to

pull one guy here,

and they're every now and then,

but overall,

if you watch our tape,

Ruben,

Akeen,

they're seeking out Marquell Bell,

they're seeking out Francis and Nez Cooper,

they're trying to find each other

and go against each other.

They know it's the only way to be at their best

on Saturdays.

And that's what we were striving for.

And we feel like we're achieving that,

and now that's got to permeate

the locker room for the new guys,

and they got a good taste of it.

You know, Jackson Canwells,

first couple reps,

we're against Akeen,

and Ruben Bane,

and you know,

I'm sure we'll never forget those reps,

right?

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I know every time I talk to you,

I always love talking about when you have a senior in high school,

a junior in high school,

your recruitment them.

They've got all the physical attributes you could ever want.

You love their character makeup,

but you really want to have them watch you practice.

Yes, sir.

So that they know I can either be about that

or I can't be about that.

And so I'm always interested in this.

I probably ask you this a million times

but I always love talking about it.

So let's say I am being recruited by you.

I check all the physical boxes.

You love my character makeup,

not really a trouble guy off the field.

And I watch you practice

and I tell you all the right things.

Like I lean into that.

But then you get me on campus.

I'm an early and early and you find initially

he's kind of there.

But he's not all the way in.

What is it like?

And how often do you find that to be the case

where you still got to drag a kid

a little bit further into the deep end

and make him see.

He really can swim.

I know he can swim.

He's got to figure out he can swim.

Sure.

Well, I mean,

we've had a really high hit rate on high school players

and it's hard job to teach.

You know, you're just not born tough

and you can't teach that in the classroom either.

They got to experience it

and you've got to like introduce it to them at levels

where they can handle and progress and develop from

because I mean, we do when we practice

and when we train, we go right to the edge.

Right to the edge.

It's the best way to get the most out of your guys.

And then the goal is to achieve a breakthrough

as opposed to a breakdown.

That's where the eyes,

the consistent communication,

the hands-on approach really,

it goes a long way.

Like, here it's about being a vocational teacher, man.

You know?

I mean, you've seen us.

Like, our,

we don't have a monster facility.

We don't.

We don't sell that.

Now, the Bermuda grass outside, the blue skies,

the weather, uncomfortable, right?

But we're now building those kinds of facilities.

Yes, construction in the background.

Yes, we do.

It's a wake room just for it.

So we can handle your 200 pound dumbbells,

all that stuff you use.

But we're now catching up in that sense,

which is going to be awesome.

But the cell here is still going to be the way we practice.

And they've got to come out and they've got to watch it

because it's unfiltered.

It's incredibly instructional and developmental.

It's also the right kind of demanding, you know?

Yeah.

And that draws the right guys.

And again, it sounds good.

It feels good.

When, not everybody when they get here could jump right into it

and pay this is awesome.

Guys like Rubin, they ate it up.

Francis, they ate it up.

But they had their days, you know?

They did.

And it's our job to teach them we believe in that.

What about plugging a coach into that?

I want to talk to you about hiring process in a second.

But I mean, I've gone through your filtration process

of how you hire.

All right, well then, you're plugging me

and I got to meet that every day.

I got to contribute to that.

I got to be a part of that every day.

By the time you figure out, I'm the guy for the job.

Is that almost an afterthought?

I would have never gotten to the final rounds

if I probably didn't check that box.

Oh man.

You know, when I was a tight-ends coach here,

I had an opportunity to interview with the Jets.

Kevin Mangini was a head coach at the time.

Actually, I saw a shot timer out.

The other day, a coach shot timer was a head coach

of the Cowboys because he was there at the time.

And it was that 12-hour interview process

that was grueling and aggrined.

But I left there going, this is awesome.

I would love to be able to conduct a process like this

if I was ever a head coach.

So yeah, we get after the right kind of way.

But you know what?

Everybody grows from it.

I mean, I learn a lot.

The person who are interviewing learns a lot.

And if it works out, there's a pretty good chance.

They're going to be able to adapt pretty well

because aptitude, right?

IQ, all that stuff.

Adaptability has to be high.

It has to be in football in general.

And we demand that of our coaches

because they have to set the tone every day.

I don't, honestly, I don't worry as much about players.

I feel like we were cutting the right kind of mindset.

I'm always investing just as much in the staff as we do the players

because we do feel that at the end of the day,

they set the tone on the daily.

And they help groom and develop leaders.

You want to develop the right kind of leaders.

I remember a year ago, you would just hire Corey Heatherman.

He was about to go through his first year.

We all know how that turned out.

But I remember you said, I don't want to do the comparison thing,

but he may remind people a lot of when Greg Chiano got here

in the late 90s, I believe, whenever that was.

All right.

So now you've got a whole year of production under your belt.

I mean, how would you describe the impact he had on this organization?

Yeah, almost identical.

Coach Chiano took over a defense year that launched into the top five.

I think that was over a two year process.

And Corey was able to come in.

And again, players also make a difference,

but it can't be understated.

He's been incredibly impactful, not only on the field,

but also off the field.

His ability to just generate belief, toughness,

swarm to the football technique fundamentals,

increasing everybody's football IQ.

I mean, it's awesome at night,

like his room is flooded with guys.

And I thought it was, I remember seeing him and going,

man, this guy looks like a Nordic Viking,

something out of an old school movie.

Let's get him down to South Florida because a guy like that

who's such a high level elite teacher,

our players will just no sprint to that.

Because that's what these guys want.

Together, they're awesome human beings,

great, just super gentleman off the field.

They are hungry dogs when it comes to ball.

And that's what we recruit, you know?

And so thought the match was perfect.

Corey has been nothing short of awesome.

And in Chiano, it also has been here a few years now.

Could be a head coach at any minute,

but he's still here. He's actually sitting right over our shoulders right now.

I thought the thing that stood out the most last year

was that Carson Beck was a radically different person

than the guy that he was replacing, Camor.

But a lot of people look on a piece of paper

and like a quarterback is just stats.

Well, a quarterback's a person who puts up stats.

But, you know, he was able to run an offense with Camor.

Then you run an offense with Carson Beck.

Looks totally different.

And now Darry and Mensa comes in.

I'll ask you about him in a second.

How much value is there in your system for lack of a better word?

Being malleable to the talent

that are going to be placed in that system instead of being rigid?

Well, to your point,

Shane Dawson should be a head coach right now.

We are beyond fortunate to have him

because he's been awesome for three years.

Not many teams in the country have had a top 25 offense

for three consecutive years.

He's made it work every which way possible.

And, you know, on the ground through the air, you know,

adjusting to the screen game,

adjusting to open sets, condensed sets.

He's done it all.

And, you know, year to year,

it's his ability to adapt.

Is I think what really stands out in the processes.

You mentioned three different quarterbacks.

Well, it's also been three different sets of receivers.

It consists in all line now, a different one,

but different parts in there as well.

Some guys were good at counter.

Some were good at wide zone.

Some were good at duo, right?

A couple different coaches coming in as well.

Those are like his lieutenants, right?

So, putting all that stuff together

and having that type of success requires a ton of organization

belief from the players,

and flat out knowledge and IQ to put it all together

and call it a certain way.

They call it parts of talent.

Got to be able to see the field.

So, he embodies all that stuff.

He's another elite human being.

So, we're lucky as can be in terms of our coordinators.

But, what can I say?

Both those guys have been different makers for us.

Darry and Mensa coming in here quarterback.

And, people are aware of him,

but I don't know that America was just locked in on two lane

and Duke games.

They'll be locked in on Miami games.

So, eventually they'll see him, but through spring

and through your interactions with him so far,

through vetting him and the portal.

Like, how do you describe him as a player?

Well, you know, by the time that we finished playing

and then the portal was still open, opens up.

By the time we got a chance to meet him, it was very quick,

but very quickly got to realize, man,

this guy's he's special.

He's got tape.

And, there's always crossover tapes

that you watch him play and you're like, man,

that guy's he's special.

Yeah, okay.

And, the supporting cast here has been such a huge bonus

for Cam Ward, for Carson Beck.

And, now we feel we're supplementing our roster

and Darry and Mensa with a really high caliber of talent-wise.

We haven't put it together.

We haven't done anything yet.

And, we just got to shut our mouths and go to work.

And, I want to be upfront about saying that.

But, we feel that he's a really special player

because he really understands ball.

Incredible pocket presence.

He's deadly accurate.

He's incredibly smart, right?

I mean, he could really, he runs it.

You know, and he understands protections

and he dives into it on a daily basis, well, like a pro.

So, quickly got the attention of our players.

And, if you get a chance to watch this,

you'll see how much trust and how much belief he's already built

in the guys around him.

For you personally, after you come out of a football season,

as a coach or just as a man,

what point is there where you do your own, like, deep dive

or a self-reflection or in mid-November,

you realized I want to study this thing after the season is.

What point of the year does that happen?

What are some things that come to mind maybe that have been fundamental changes

or maybe something new, maybe a project

or maybe a thing you've taken a deeper dive into recently?

Well, I mean, it's, it's not stop.

It happens throughout the course of the year.

You're always noting it up.

And you're always taking many dives throughout the course of the season.

When you get into the off season,

it's hard to find time to go and actually do site visits

though we do find time to do that.

But every aspect of the game,

and on every single year,

and anything that really bit you, you know what I mean?

So, it's endless.

I mean, it's, it's every aspect

and it's a very non-ego approach to it.

And I'm talking about the entire staff, not just myself.

We sit in there, it's like, man, these parts were good,

these parts were okay, and these parts, man,

it's, it's not good enough, you know?

And I probably, that's the best part about our staff.

They're very humble.

They want to win.

And so, I would say it's, it's nonstop.

This will go all the way through the summer.

And that's when you're probably, for me,

in the month of May, I'm able to go see people

or have people come in that I could really dive deeper

into, you know, certain aspects of the game.

So, but it doesn't stop.

I mean, you kind of, you know, I'll say this on there,

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You kind of plan your vacations around places.

You can slightly visit, you know what I mean?

Hey, let's go to the Philly.

You know, why?

Well, I'm just going to stop by see my friends with the Eagles,

and then, well, we'll do something really nice, you know?

So, come on now.

It's one of those things.

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If I were to be around you,

let's say fly on the wall an entire month.

So I get to see the full spectrum of your existence as a head coach.

Your interactions with players, staffers, assistant coaches.

What are the common traits that just drive you up the wall the quickest?

That's driving up the wall and, you know, in a really bad...

In a bad way?

Way.

Oh, man.

I...

Woof.

I...

I can't be around.

People that don't love to work hard.

That drive me insane.

Or lack of care factor intensity, you know.

I mean, this is...

This is the best job in the world.

And if you don't have a passion for it and doing everything as if it's your very own son,

in my opinion, and I don't judge anybody, everybody does their own thing.

But I just...

I don't think there's a place for people that don't treat this as if it's their coach and their very own son.

So, that's what drive me up a wall, lack of detail, you know.

Not understanding that the percent of the percent of the percent

and this particular aspect of the game, technique, fundamentals will be the difference

in you holding a trophy or not.

And I guess people that don't fight for that,

is what...

I have a tough time fathoming with driving up a wall.

Did I ever surprise you when people don't have it?

I just...

I don't judge, you know.

One thing I never want to do is sit on a scene and say,

well, this is the way and that's the way.

I just...

I just choose not to...

not to be around that because this...

I mean, football, I mean, I love football.

Football is like...

Come on, man.

There's nothing better in the world.

And then I get to coach where I played, okay?

And I think of, you know,

just in our state alone, no one can say that.

You know, so every single minute of every day

dedicated to the University of Miami,

it means that much more.

You know, and I want to be surrounded by people

that feel the same way about the program.

And luckily we have that.

Like, I have an awesome staff.

We work together.

We don't work for when we work with each other.

And that's a prerequisite.

And you know what?

When I was an assistant coach and I coached at Alabama

when I started as an assistant organ,

that was my vow.

I'm gonna work here as if I played here on a dedicated every ounce.

To it, because at the end of the day,

and this I love,

and I heard this from a mentor a long time ago,

we need more people that are good for young people.

The world does not have enough mentors

and people that are good for young people.

And if you have the opportunity, brother,

you've got to go, right?

And you've got to, like, pour every ounce that you have into it.

You know, you still have a life, you know?

No one's asking you to, you know,

be a complete martyr and give up everything,

but you have to, the time that's allotted for your people.

You have to completely dive into it.

Does this surprise you when you look at the temperament

or mentality of your average player today?

That, so they've got access to way more information.

They're connected way more to the world,

which could mean access to good and bad.

Does it surprise you that, like, on average,

it seems like they're way better people.

There's way less off the field issue

than there would have been 20 or 30 years ago.

Does it surprise me?

I'm very surprised by it.

Like, I'm very surprised by it.

Yeah.

Yeah. I mean, I think everybody is much more inclined

to be educated at the snap of a finger, right?

A button or whatnot.

I mean, I play with some complete disambles.

You know what I mean?

So I have a different perspective.

It was fun and they were awesome.

And I think you're right.

And I'll say this, I think they're smarter.

I think they have access to more, like you said.

And I think also, we're in the day and age of NIL,

they can do things that allow them to recover better,

to rest better, sleep better,

to have access to more information

as to how they can better themselves

as prospects for their current team,

their position for the future.

I think guys are getting more and more serious about their craft.

That'd be the best way to describe it.

But I do agree with you.

I think you do see less and less.

What was it like the other day,

watching this place just get flooded during pro-day,

versus two years ago, three years ago,

I was here for a pro-day and did not know pro-day was happening.

Right.

And I was in the end door as pro-day was going on.

I was unaware that it was even occurring.

So how radical was that 24-month,

or 36-month?

Like that animal house could, right?

Nothing to see here.

All is well.

Right.

Nothing's going on.

But it was awesome, man.

Those are, you know what?

It is promise fulfilled, validated.

Sitting there in those homes.

Back then, you were a lot of sitting homes.

I mean, these new rules, I can't stand.

But anyways, we're able to sit in those homes

and say, this is what we're going to do.

This is how we're going to elevate.

It's going to be incredibly hard.

It's going to tension every way possible.

And at the end of this,

this is how it's going to end.

And that's how we projected it to end in the month of March.

So 110-plus personnel here,

raving about our guys.

What I love most is the way that NFL people

were talking about our guys,

how they handled themselves,

how they answered questions.

Their level of football IQ,

their background checks were off the charts.

And then they loved the way that they played.

That they played incredibly hard.

We actually made a tape for our players

on how we played the game here at Miami.

And it's a flood of incredible highlights

from the guys you saw out there.

So it's a sign of things to come, right?

Your program typically,

they reflect each other.

The month of April reflects what happens during the season.

You typically don't have a consecutive years,

of course, consistent years,

of poor drafts and high-level teams.

I use the high-level teams, high drafts, right?

And it's cyclical.

And I think we're approaching that.

And all we got to do is work harder,

do better, improve in every aspect,

and just focus on us.

One of the fun things about college football is

there are really good position groups

or rooms out there that people are unaware of,

because it's not pro-ball.

You don't know the names as well.

They haven't been around as long.

So if people look at Miami right now,

they know Malachi Tony.

They know that name and he just burst on the scene last year.

Behind him, outside the world probably looks

at your receiver room and says,

I wonder what else they have there?

I know it's time to shut up and go to work,

understand all that.

Right.

But just like in terms of overall personnel there,

how do you feel about that room?

Oh, I feel that room.

And like the rest of the team has the ability to,

I mean, sky's the limit for them.

But I also know that,

you know, I know one team that could go poor,

but that's Miami if we get in our own way.

And if we buy into, you know,

all the accolades that are hold this way and whatnot.

So the approach is the same man.

You know, I'm the most boring interview in sports.

But I'm going to say the same stuff again and again and again.

You know what?

Because if the players saw me pouring accolades out

on such a widely viewed, you know, show,

they would, they think it's AI,

traversed and foremost.

And then they'd, you know, they'd have me drug tested

to make sure that I was okay, you know,

because we just, we don't operate in that manner.

But that being said,

we do make sure that we praise effort and reward performance

and that room has really,

it's up the caliber of length, size, speed,

playmaking, ability.

And there's an excitement around that group that is,

it's real.

It's real.

We just got to go out and prove it.

It was like a $10 bet on the staff,

where you would even mention a player by name.

And I won 10 there.

You won 10 I mentioned a player?

I didn't write.

There we go.

Cash in the pocket.

Time of bucks.

I'll take 50%.

The one more thing I wanted to ask you is,

if you're a high achiever,

if you're really, really motivated

and you get close to something,

people slap you on the back.

And you're kind of almost, you accept it,

and you appreciate it,

but you're almost a little embarrassed by it.

Because you're like, I haven't ever, I haven't arrived.

I haven't really done what you're congratulating me for doing.

And I know the kind of people that are in this building.

So I kind of already know the answer to the question.

But I want to ask you,

the experience of all the praise

and all the adulation and whatnot

being thrown your way.

And you know good and well,

your guts are ripped out at the end of the year.

Is it almost like you nod and you smile

and you're appreciative?

You don't want to be disrespectful,

but it kind of goes in when you're not the other.

Positive anger, man.

You know,

that energy burns clean.

I'll say that, you know,

you take all those feelings

at that gutcha,

you take all those feelings that you know

you're going to pour into the betterment

of the people around you,

take all those feelings

and you give them a direction, right?

That direction right there out on green tree practice field

and you go to work.

Mario Chris Bell, we appreciate it, brother.

Appreciate you. Thank you.

Thank you.

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