Matt Barnes on Delivering Happiness with Nick Turturro

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What's going on, Matt?

Oh, shit.

Hey, guy.

What up, man?

How are you doing?

What are you doing?

It's your place.

It's our studio.

Are you delivering pizza now?

Yes, what I do, I got like a show.

But I was smelling a weed, I'm like, oh, yeah, my bad.

Oh, that's right.

No, no, no, no.

I'm not a weed guy with one of a cigar guy.

But you making pizza is your company?

Well, yeah, it's kind of my company.

OK, a little small partner.

So you went from acting to delivering pizzas?

Yeah.

Like an influencer now?

Yeah, then we're not an influencer.

OK.

Don't call me an influencer.

So what's the spot, Matt?

So this is all the smoke studios, man.

We got this maybe two years ago.

So we shoot a few different shows in here.

Officers are upstairs.

Man, just out here trying to live the life.

That's it.

Yeah, no, it's a good show.

I like you guys.

I appreciate that.

Thank you.

I like I remember you was with Showtime, right?

Yeah, we used to film at the same,

at a Malcon, Santa Monica, back when you were doing your show.

Malcon, right?

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, we had that spot.

Yeah, so we actually got some Malcon guys

and Malcon females that came along with us to the new company.

They tell me you're a pizza guy?

I am.

I'm excited.

What's your style of pizza?

I can do a combination, minus mushrooms and onions,

or I could just do regular pepperoni.

Yeah, this is heavy-duty pepperoni.

OK.

It's called the spicy spring.

And no one cuts the pepperoni like us.

The guy that created it, it takes pride

in cutting it individually.

Oh, does he?

Yeah.

I like to take the style.

You know what I like to do?

I like to actually take the pepperoni off and just pick out.

Eat them separately, huh?

Yeah.

I eat this pizza so much.

You know, I got to come out of my ears.

Well, like, what's your go-to slice?

You know, if you have a go-to pizza here.

Hmm.

I'm a North cow guy, so there's a restaurant called Roundtable

that I like.

That's probably my go-to, but this is.

You like it?

This is good.

Yeah.

Yeah, this is real good.

It's a meal, but, you know what I mean?

It's thick, too.

Like, I can't probably eat like five or six of these.

I could probably eat maybe two, but I got to be high

to eat that many.

You got to be high.

That's right.

You guys smoke it up here, right?

A little bit.

I'm a cigar guy.

OK.

Yeah, I tell you the funny thing about Wiekers,

I had a brother that he was like a professional pot

smoker, but back in the day, I never really got high.

So when I was a kid one time, these guys in Long Island

were doing bongs, you know, those bongs.

Yeah.

Like I said, I never, I was kind of sensitive when I was a kid.

So I did like a bong hit.

And I was like, oh, it was a gravity bong.

You're grabbing like a gravity bong.

Oh, yeah, those will let you down.

Maybe you could estimate like what happened to me?

Like, I did the hit with the bong and something happened.

Like, the air got stuck right here.

That's where it got.

I was walking around like two days like this.

With almost a stiff back?

Yeah, I couldn't rise up.

I was having a party at my house.

My parents were away.

And I'm walking around the whole party like that.

Everybody's like, what happened?

I go, I don't know.

I did a bong and I couldn't get back up.

Really?

It took me like two or three days to rise from whatever

the air got caught on me.

How high were you?

I don't know.

I wasn't really high.

You did, OK.

I just f*** up things would happen to me.

Yeah.

I would do something.

So that was the first and last time?

That was it.

That was it.

Yeah, I just, I was like, I'm not folk, you know, mate.

Not for me.

Yeah, I tried it like people like, do a hit, do a hit.

And I'm like, f***, you high.

I'm like, yeah, I'm high.

I'm like, but you know what you haven't, haven't tried though.

And with all due respect, we have different kind of weed

out here in California.

Like what?

Our New York, it's probably cool now, but back in the day,

you're probably smoking some bullshit.

I'm gonna be honest with you.

You might be right.

So it's a little different out here now.

So maybe one day, not today, we're not the force,

but maybe one day we'll sit down and grab a pizza

and I'll introduce you to something you might like.

Yeah, like, you know, I got to watch with those cookies

and things like that.

You know that?

Just all school just joints.

I know, because one time his friend gave me some kind of

brownie, some shit and he's like a little skinny guy

and he's like, don't worry, it's just a little bit.

I made it myself and I eat a little of the shit

and then like three o'clock in the morning, I'm pacing.

I'm like, hyperventilating.

I'm like, I call this sucker up.

I go, what'd you do?

What'd you do?

Nothing, nothing.

He goes, right it out.

Right it out.

I'll ride one out.

I'll ride your f***ing head out.

I go, I'm like, ready to jump out

to a f***ing window.

So I'm like me and, you know.

Next show, I'm gonna teach you how to smoke.

Well, I'll come back and I'll teach you how to smoke.

That would be fun.

Let's do it.

I'm in it.

I would love that man.

You've had great career and now is another career

doing this, you and Steven.

How much fun you haven't doing this?

I mean, it's a blessing.

I feel like to be able to play, you know,

15 years professional basketball and then transition

into media and then learn a lot of media

and then be able to start our own media company.

It's been, I've been living a dream.

I feel like I've, you know, never worked a day

in my life.

I got to play basketball for a living

and now I get to, you know, create content for a living.

Like you said, not an influencer,

but being able to create content and tell stories

and sit down with new interesting people.

It's been fun, man.

Yeah, that's awesome.

I mean, the thing is, you guys were stars,

but like, not super stars,

because sometimes when people are too big,

you know, their afterlife is sort of like,

it's like, how do you live up to being like,

I was listening to Brady yesterday.

I'm like, Tom Brady, and now you're hearing him.

I'm like, it's kind of weird, but like you guys.

Well, I feel like we're more,

I mean, I'll speak for myself, like more of a kind of

a blue collar NBA guy.

So I was kind of someone that was very relatable

to everyone else that my journey was tough.

It was, you know, every day about that lunchpale

and hard had to work.

And I was just that kind of type of person.

So I kind of feel for me to be able to transition

into this space and show,

shit, if I can do it, me and Jack can do it,

anybody can do it.

We were one of the original,

maybe first one or two of these basketball podcasts,

sports podcasts, now there's hundreds,

if not thousands up and down.

So, you know, we've been very lucky to be able to kind of

maintain our position and continue to raise the bar

in this space.

And like I said, really just enjoy it.

I mean, were you a big basketball guy growing up?

Were you like a big fan?

I was, I was an athlete growing up.

I played every sport growing up in high school.

I played football baseball basketball track.

So I went from season to season, sport to sport.

All-American and football basketball,

but really just as a kid.

And what I, what I, I feel bad that, you know,

my kids miss it was, we just played outside, you know,

that we played outside all day from the morning

until until all the street lights came on.

So I was just an athlete that loved to play

whatever sport was time to go.

I saw you hit a softball years ago in Coney Island.

And I was playing in some celebrity game.

I took the first time I met you.

And you, you clocked it with a cyclone.

Oh, that was the rain, memory was raining that day, right?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Not even remember that game.

That's crazy.

Yeah, yeah.

No, I played, I mean, I love sports, you know,

like a pad of the baseball.

I can play, yeah, I played baseball through high school,

football, all through high school, basketball,

through high school.

That's the toughest sport.

Um, what would you say?

I say the hardest thing to do is probably hit a ball,

hit a baseball.

I say the most athletic thing, you know,

you can do is probably play basketball

because you got to be able to have

a lot of different movements.

And then obviously the speed and the physicality of football.

But I think, you know, again, kids nowadays

only play one sport and you kind of, you know,

major in that sport as a child.

But I feel a little bit from every sport helped me become,

you know, a professional basketball player.

You know, did anybody ever intimidate you like as far as,

like, not intimidate, but like who you like?

I mean, I know you're a professional and you belong there

and you can hang.

But like, when you were playing, did you ever find yourself

like in an aura of a couple of years?

Um, I'd probably get that out of the way before the game,

you know what I mean?

But you know, the first time, I missed MJ by a year, you know,

so, and then I got a chance to play against Kobe

as he was a young pro with the Lakers and Walsh at UCLA.

So probably guys that was kind of in awe in of,

when it kind of first happened was probably like a Tim Duncan.

You know, obviously LeBron, he was incredible.

And again, I got to, you know,

had to deal with Kobe before I got to the pros.

But obviously matching up against Kobe was really fun.

You know, someone like Vince Carter,

seeing how incredibly athletic he is at a young age

was kind of like an awe experience.

But, you know, as an athlete, that's something you can't show.

You know what I mean?

Because they'll tear your head off.

They look for any sign, especially in my area.

They look for any sign of weakness or blood and they attack.

So all that shit that I thought happened before the game.

And you were, you were sort of a lockdown defensive guy, right?

Yeah, I tried to play a little bit of D sense out there.

Who did you give a hard time to, who like, you know,

did you shut down?

Oh, you mean my job, I had such an amazing job.

I mean, every single night I can guard Kobe, LeBron,

Kevin Garnett, Carmelo Anthony, Duane Wei, Genobli,

Paul Pierce, Tracey McGrady.

Like every single night it was,

because I played in the era where the 2s and 3s

were the guys that were going, Ray Allen.

So every single night, I had my hands full.

And again, what I'd like to score more points

it took more shots in my career, yeah.

But I just found it so rewarding in every single night.

Like I didn't go out there saying, man, I want to score 20.

Man, I got, you know, I got coached tonight.

Man, I got Carmelo tonight.

You know what I mean?

So I'm going to make him work for everything he's got.

Nothing will be easy.

And, you know, great offense always beats good defense.

You came to league, what year?

0-2-0-3.

2-0-3.

So you, you were a fan, like what, in the 90s?

80s.

90s?

Yeah, I grew up watching, you know,

Magic Johnson in the Showtime Lakers, Boston,

a young Mike Detroit.

So I came up in the era of basketball.

It was really physical.

And then I was a football fan.

So I loved the 49ers.

And I was watching Montana and Rice and those journeys.

And then baseball fan, I was the ace fan and the Yankee fan.

So, you know, from the Maddingley side, on the Yankee side,

to, you know, the Conceiko Maguire era with the A's.

So again, whatever season it was, that's what sport I was playing.

Yeah.

I like the swinging A's, the early 70s.

Yeah, yeah.

They're a little before my time, but they were good.

Yeah.

I know I like them because I fell in love with their colors.

And they all had more stashes.

They look like the village people.

I love that.

Yeah.

What's going on with your team right now?

What's going on with the Yankees?

How do Yankees have become more of a brand, more of a corporate sort

of animal?

I mean, they've, you know, I had two great ones, I say, me, as a fan.

Speaking of third person?

Yeah, I could say in a third person.

I mean, 76, so we want to pen it, 77, 78, when Reggie came.

And I saw Reggie hit three homers.

I was at a lot of those great games, Greg Nettles.

I remember all this stuff specifically.

And then in the 90s, 96, 98, 99, 2000,

I was at all those championship winning games.

I mean, I was against the Braves, against the Metz.

I mean, against the Padres, I was there, I didn't say in the 80s, 98.

But we haven't won much in the last 20, 25 years.

I mean, championships.

One since 09.

So in 20, 25 years, one isn't really cutting.

And we make the, you know, the regular, we make the playoffs.

But, you know, it's watered down now.

It's a lot easier to get in the dance now.

But they haven't had like a great team.

They've had like good teams, but they're just missing, I don't know,

they're not the same, they're not run with the same way.

They're more like sell out, you know, they get in there,

but they can't get it done like a couple of years ago.

And so Dodgers, they had a shot.

I was going to ask, how hard breaking was that?

It was tough when they lost the first game,

was the way they lost the game, I thought that was the series.

Sometimes in baseball, one moment happens.

Momentum. Momentum.

Momentum.

And once it turns, once like the baseball gods come out,

you kind of know like this smells ugly.

And I was that game, they almost got swept in one game for it.

And game five, we're up five, nothing.

Five, nothing, you think, colds, pitch, and light, it's out.

How many errors can you make?

You got it, right, you got it.

And I'm sitting in these luxury seats,

I never leave my seat, I'm superstitious.

I go to a freaking restaurant, and all of a sudden,

I see Judge drop a ball, and then I see another play,

and I run back out, and I'm not bleeding.

It's too late, it's like, bass is loaded,

he strikes out two guys, and a little ground ball,

guy doesn't cover first, and Mookie Betts gets safe,

and say, five, one, but I'm like, that's it, fucking over.

Because I knew, I knew like the smell of that,

it had turned, or you knew, it was five, five.

So it was your fault then?

Kind of.

Yeah, I would, I would, I mean,

I put the blame on myself.

You got to do your job, right?

I know, I know, I know.

You got to put it in your heart.

If you're going to say, we won this shit, in the, in the, in the,

oh, I take, you got to stay here.

So you went, because it was five, nothing went to go grab a bite

to eat real quick.

Yeah.

Did you even get your food, it sounded like you rushed out

without getting your food.

I kind of left it, because I was looking at the TV

in the restaurant, I was looking at it, it's too good.

Yeah, people were bothering me,

and I'm like, they go, I go, I'm in a bad mood right now.

Right.

I even pass spike and spikes pass in me, spike Lee, you know,

and he's passing me, he's like, and I'm like, all right,

let me get back out there.

And then I'm thinking, you know, I could, I could actually

make a dent, I could stop the bleeding.

That's the craziness of me watching it.

You understand that as a sports fan?

Absolutely.

Psychologically, you're like thinking, I could actually,

I could do something to make this, and there's always work.

Yeah, sometimes it does though.

Sometimes it does, sometimes more momentum,

you've got to carry it into the next day.

It's sort of less shit, judge hits a home run against Toronto,

off the foul pole, ties the game six, six,

and then we win the game, you're thinking, boom.

It's time.

Tomorrow night, and what happens, they come back flat,

I'm like, no carry over.

Yeah, I didn't see that carry over.

That's the whole thing.

That's tough.

You know about momentum, right?

I feel like the Yankees are probably

giving you some great hairs over the years.

Oh, they have, I take it hard, I take it hard.

I mean, I mean, people are like, you know,

you're not on the team, I go, yeah, but, you know,

for me, yeah.

It's different.

Now, I can appreciate that, again, obviously,

being an athlete, I'm on the complete other side,

but I appreciate the die-hard, because you guys

are tough to deal with, either you love it,

either they love you or they hate you for the support.

You know what I mean?

I heard you guys get a lot of friction online sometimes,

because you tell it how it is.

You know what I mean?

And you're telling it from a passionate,

love perspective of a fan, so I like that.

And I watched the game.

I watched the nine innings.

I'm there in the trenches.

I'm not, I don't just show up for the fucking glory.

It's just like, even when I watched,

I started out playing basketball.

That was my first sport, I didn't grow.

Probably a good little point, God.

But, I mean, I was a fan.

I'm a lot older of you than, of the ABA, like,

I love the fucking ABA.

Before the merge.

Yeah, yeah, the ABA, like, the NBA has been kind of calm,

a lot like the ABA in a lot of ways,

wide open, not as defensive anymore.

Do you think, like, sports as a whole, even basketball?

I feel this way about a lot of sports now.

Just, it's not the same, it doesn't have the same specialists.

It's a little warded down.

Yeah, I think, you feel that way?

I think defense, defense has kind of been pulled back,

and it's more about explosive offenses, you know,

and because that sells tickets.

Like, obviously, I'm a defensive mind of God,

but people don't want to see the 83, 84 defensive battles,

or the, you know, the 10-7 football games.

Like, we want to see five touchdowns, we want to see

Steffit 10-3s, like, I think that sells.

And I think, to your point, the Yankees being more

of a business now, these leagues know what sells.

You know, the sports is bigger than it's ever been,

because it's consumed, you know, also on your phone now.

So, to your point, I definitely don't think there's that same,

because I just think defense brought so much energy

and passion to the game, and now you're just cheering for it.

Well, my best defense is a good offense now.

So we're just, you know, people are just wishing

for these high scoring games.

So I think that defense being taken

out of it took the passion and kind of the heart

out of the game almost, so to speak, so.

And you had to watch, you had to wait to see a game.

You know, that every game was televised,

even like with baseball.

We only get 40 games, you know, 60 games.

So not every game was in your living room.

You know, you had to wait to see a game,

or listen on the radio, or we would read the newspaper.

That used to look forward to that, you know,

the mock scores, the newspaper.

Now, everything's 24-7.

My kids don't even watch games.

I try to tell my twins are 17 to come watch a game.

Like, no, Dad, we'll see the highlights tomorrow.

And they have like big watch like these little two

to five minute games of just, but I watch the whole game

and I watch that shit.

And I'm like, oh, like it's really like watching the game.

I don't like it, but I understand it.

Right.

So it's, yeah, times have changed, man.

Times have definitely changed.

You miss playing?

I don't.

I enjoyed my run.

I'm fortunate, you know, I coach my kids now,

and I have, you know, more sons coming up the pipeline.

So I think I kind of get my fix of wanting

to play basketball through being able to, you know,

coach them and teach them.

So I think my past time in our golf, I box sometimes,

but that's kind of my athletic.

And I go to the gym a couple of days a week.

So that's where I kind of get my fix.

But I don't miss the game.

I had a good time.

I loved, I never thought I would cross over to media.

Like I came from an era where we didn't really

put the media, you know what I mean?

Because this is kind of, I caught the end of,

I got the beginning of social media.

The end of my career is the beginning of social media.

But for a majority of my career, what the media says

was the gospel.

We know how they twist and change stuff up.

So I wasn't a fan, so you know, someone kind of convinced me.

Well, if you don't like that, you know, be a part of changing it.

So I jumped into space and found some luck

and had fun with ESPN and Fox.

And when they, you know, was able to create all the smoke

and kind of change the narrative and how people tell their stories

and listen to their stories and who they listen to them from.

So yeah, it was something I never thought would happen,

but it, you know, it's a tremendous blessing.

Do a fight fan?

Yeah, I like watching boxing and MMA,

but I can't lie, I don't watch.

I'm not a glue to the every fight.

I watch the big fights.

Yeah.

But yeah, I mean, I was someone who was, you know,

known to swing or slap a few people in my day.

So I definitely like boxing in MMA.

Because you were known as a little bit of an enforcer, right?

Yeah, I guess you can call it that.

But mine was just more like, I came from a background

where my dad, you know, if your brother and sister

if I don't care if they win, you better be involved.

I'm gonna whip you ass.

So everyone, I looked at everyone as my teammates as family.

Right.

So it wasn't necessarily a force.

It was almost kind of, even if I was younger,

it was almost on some big brother shit.

Like you fuck with me, you fuck with him,

you're gonna fuck with me, you know what I mean?

So it's just like, it was kind of like all or one or,

you know, one for all.

So yeah, I did mix it up, you know, a few times in my career.

Did you have any fights in NBA?

No, I wouldn't say fights.

We've had some pushing matches.

Because it cost, sometimes I wish I played back in the 80s

where it would cost you $5,000 if you swung.

But, you know, I was getting suspended two or three games

for pushing people and it would cost me a couple hundred thousand.

So it's just like, you know, it's swinging.

Is it worth the swing?

Right.

You know, maybe if you can catch them,

I waited for a couple guys after the game

so that it wasn't on the court,

but it didn't materialize in anything.

Yeah, that's good.

I really want it.

She gave me some money.

Yeah.

How about acting?

Do you have an acting before?

I've known some cameos.

I want to act.

I think it would be cool.

You know, I've taken some acting classes before.

So, you've got something for me, let me know.

Yeah.

You just did a new, you just did a project, right?

Yeah, I did a, I called it a cameo.

It was like one sequence in the highest to lowest with Denzel.

Yeah.

Washington and I did my first movie with him,

my first real movie, More Better Blue.

So it's kind of funny, fast forward, like,

How many years apart would that?

Oh, man, you're going back like over 30 years.

Wow.

And remember being on screen with him and I was like,

I was such a nervous wreck just to be on screen.

I didn't even know like how great he was,

which was kind of good.

I kept telling my brother,

because we played brothers in it.

I said, this guy's great.

He goes, oh yeah, he's becoming a big,

I was like, I'm better, I didn't know.

And then like, I was out of my light, you know,

like you have these lights and Denzel told me,

he goes, hey, move over this way or something like that.

So my brother goes, hey,

Denzel's looking out for you.

So you get a chance to talk to him off the camera a little bit?

I did, not the first day, like the first day,

like I said, I could see he was in the zone.

I was playing a Yankee fan on the subway.

So I was kind of like fucking locked in.

And when you see somebody like that,

you know, you could even attest to that.

When somebody's great on the quarter on screen,

it helps you kind of rise up.

You got to kind of rise up.

You got to bring your A game.

You got to bring your A game.

So I was like locked in and I saw him on the subway.

I'm like, oh dude, he's here.

And that kind of pumped me up, you know.

So the next day he was looking at me

and he like, gives me a little fist pump.

And then he goes, so I was doing my lines in the movie.

Like seven times seven, eight times eight.

I remember that, huh?

He was, yeah, man, he was, that was funny shit.

And then we started talking a little bit.

Of who?

Then we were talking sports on the train and him and Spike.

And I guess he didn't know I was a baseball survivor.

He was like, oh, and that knows his shit.

Damn straight I'd do.

I said, you know, I started brought it to the APA.

I said, I saw Dr. J with an Afro.

The vintage Dr. J, you know.

He was like, you did?

I said, yeah, man.

So the last game in the APA, I remember

against the Denver Nuggets, at the Nassau, Coliseum.

What year was that?

Like 1976.

When the NBA, you know, they wanted Dr. J.

Oh, they needed it.

They needed it.

And that was part of like the allure and the merger

of Grebin those ABA teams.

There was a lot of great players in the APA.

We interviewed George Gervin.

And obviously they said, obviously what Magic and Bird

in the 80s was important to the game.

It kind of made it main.

But they feel like the ABA saved at the NBA.

But with the trends, uh, trends, uh.

Because they brought that, they brought that flat.

They brought that color that, that basketball

was beautiful, that arena.

You could say it was just a bunch of black mofers

out there flying around dunking.

That's what it was, huh?

And with their Afros and the senior roles there.

But it was fun.

The teams were fun.

The colors were fun.

It was the one renegade league that really had some like,

you know, they've tried it with football, other shit.

But it's never sort of like lasted.

So the NBA saw that and being the mafia that they are,

they fucking crushed the ABA because, you know,

you can't compete with the power of the NBA.

But the ABA was fucking fun.

Talent for talent.

The ABA probably had more talent.

Yeah.

I mean, you think of the guys that had no honest,

Gilmore, Dan Essel, David Thompson, Marvin Barnes.

It's got any Marvin Barnes.

Wow guy, I played with a guy that I loved.

He was a tie-in, Ernie D. Gregorio.

OK.

He was a great point guard with the Buffalo Braves.

I mean, there was one team that didn't come in

that it was a good team.

I never understood the Kentucky kernels.

They never remember hearing about them.

What about the flint tropics?

Yeah, the flint tropics, that fucking team.

I mean, St. Louis Spirits, that was a team

that, what was the deal that they made?

They're still getting paid or some shit?

Oh, up until recently, the brothers, right?

Yeah.

Yeah, something about the NBA was good.

I love these guys when they make those deals

with Bobby Bonilla.

He's getting paid for 25 years.

I'm like, man, why couldn't I get a fucking deal like that

where I could be paid for 25 years?

That's how Tony stressed his money out, right?

With the Dodgers, I don't know if it's for that long,

but they stretched the money out, too.

Yeah, they're pulling all kinds of moves, smart shit.

What do you think about the way the Dodgers move

and they just go, the similar trial,

the Yankees used to move, if they wanted you,

they're gonna go get you, no matter what the situation is.

They know what they're doing,

because they got a good nucleus,

they got a good foundation, and from that foundation,

they just keep adding fucking pieces.

So then they're not falling around.

They're going for the gun store.

They just picked up what's his name?

Kyle Tucker.

Yeah.

Yeah, another guy, I mean, I heard they gave him

like a 60 million signing bond.

Like, how the fuck do you do that?

And then they'll pay him one million a year.

I don't know, they're stretching the rules.

Or creating them.

But they're winning.

Yeah.

They're winning and they're becoming like,

I mean, you know, the Dodgers are from,

you know, they were like, the little brother

of Brooklyn.

Yeah.

So what did you say?

It's almost like if the Clippers moved away

and came back and became the Dodgers type situation,

that's what it is.

Yankees would be the Lakers, so to speak.

Kind of, kind of.

But I think the difference is the Dodgers,

they always had that kind of magic, even from Brooklyn,

from what I've heard, like that Barrel.

There was just, the Clippers are still kind of like,

yeah, they've never been.

Like the Metz.

They've never found that easy.

And they're like the little brother.

I mean, the Metz still have their charm.

Don't forget, like the Metz are like the bastard child

of the Dodgers and the Giants.

There were three baseball teams.

Those teams left New York, right?

The Giants and the Dodgers, and they created like a child.

The child of the wedlock was the fucking Metz.

They took all their colors.

You look at them, the blue, the orange, the logo,

that NY logo, that's the New York Giants logo.

Oh, interesting.

The Metz logo.

Yeah, like the Yankee logo, that's the greatest logo

in the history of sports.

I mean, like, you're going anywhere, you'll find out.

Yankee had something in some place.

I mean, I don't care.

The Dodgers are the Dodgers, but the Yankees are still,

like, you know, the Yankees show up,

the stadium is fucked up.

Yeah, it's a different.

People come out, fake fans come out.

I know right away.

No matter what, I mean, being a Yankee,

I think being a Laker, and what's the equivalency of our,

and football, being a Cowboy, right?

Like, no matter, there can be teams that have better runs

or better, but like, when you think those particular sports,

those are the team, those are America's teams, so to speak.

Right, right.

You'll never, you'll never live that down.

You know what I mean?

The Celtics were pretty fucked up.

That's a pretty high standard to live to every year, though,

because, like, anything less than a championship is not-

It's bust, yeah.

Yeah, I mean, but, you know, what else is there?

You know, you play to win.

Absolutely.

You don't play to come in second place,

but there are places.

That's a bunch of bullshit.

You know, you see, like, they're giving trophies out,

and I'm like, what the fuck?

I mean, you know, everybody's out to win.

This isn't like, you're doing a movie.

You know, like, you're doing a movie,

and you're not, you're trying to work together.

If we're working together on a movie,

we're not trying to outdo each other,

but with sports, it's about bottom line is, did you win?

That's why, like, Derrick Gita, everybody loved him,

because he was all about, hey, I won more rings, right?

I mean, you got a ring, right?

I got a ring, yeah.

Yeah, winners.

There's nothing like that, my man.

Absolutely.

And listen, thanks for doing this.

I'm out, man, I appreciate it.

Can I take some of these pieces on?

Oh, my God.

This is for you.

And it's good on the reheat.

Yeah, and I'm good.

I'm going to eat another piece.

I mean, if you guys want it, we'll, you know,

deliver someone.

Yeah, let's figure out something we can really do.

Yeah.

I'm definitely down.

Yeah, and next time, listen, I'll smoke a weeb at you, right?

Hello.

But just don't get me sick.

Just get me high in a horny.

Oh, yeah.

I don't get you high.

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