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Few minutes past 4 p.m. Everybody Matt Polly joins us

Man, I'm gonna miss you by like a day right? We get down there on Saturday and I guess you're leaving Saturday

Are you coming to the game on Saturday? I don't know. I'm sort of like Michael Kelly you're flying it like 10 30 the morning

There's no way you're getting to the game. Okay. Yeah, the game will be at what 105 Eastern Matt

Yeah, so I'll be at the game. I'm actually broadcasting the game on the back

I'll catch the end of it. Yeah, yeah, and then as soon as it is done

I will hop in the car and head to Fort Lauderdale and catch a flight out where you guys fly in two Dave

We're flying it right right there to the beach. Okay, so you there's a chance you could cross paths

Yeah, I think we get there at 12 15. Okay, so there's a chance

Yeah, if you go straight to the game, but if you'd say you know what? I'm gonna go straight to the bar

Then we probably won't see you get some lunch. No, I mean, I'm fine with bars bit. I'm there for the games

I want to see everything I can get some lunch at Roger Dean Stadium

Well, if you get there come up to the booth because it's going to be Mike Clayborne and myself broadcasting the game on Saturday

So I can hang out for a little bit. Can you just walk up there? No, I mean, no, but we

We know people that we got a John hand we got a John Hancock appearance in the broadcast today

We know people. That's great. We could probably get you a pass. Yeah, I can get you in. I'll take that pass Matt and those people

I was just I love

Peg Steely Dan and I was jamming to it and I was thinking how Wheeler loves metal and I love 90s power pop

But I have no idea what kind of music mad poly likes

Huh, okay, so like what I used to I grew up on like

90s like 105 7 the point 90s music like alternative rock and that's what I really liked and then as I have grown older

I've started to like country music a little bit more and then in recent years

It's really a lot of contemporary Christian music

You know just having a family and always wanting to make sure that we're in the car

We've got good positive stuff going on. I've moved to that

So if you are in the car with me

It is if it's not on camel X if music is on it is likely contemporary Christian music

You know, I toured with the Christian band right met

I don't what band I was called crimson faith. It was 1982 through like 1985 we were local

But we did a lot of gigs with like big personalities

We played the same show that petro played and I was all about it all about it

I was so into it. I'd go to a got bay festival in greenville every year and super into it

Yeah, you look the the Christian music industry is it's cred in the shows they put on

I saw Toby Mac in her price center maybe like a year ago or so and he was really really good and

David Crowder was there as well. It's not David Crowder. Yeah, David Crowder

And he he's a rocker

It's that at one point my youngest daughter my oldest daughter had to like step out because she couldn't handle

The the impact of that music so

And you know, it's as I've I'll listen to some of the new pop stuff and some of the you know urban music urban Christian music

It's kind of a newer type thing. I've gone into a little bit here recently

So I there's really not any music that I just do not like when we're doing rush hour and wheelers throwing his like

Metal stuff in there. I like it. So I

I you know give me a good classical song sometimes. I like it if I if I'm at church. I'm good with contemporary music

I'm good with old school hymns like I just I love

Music I love anything that makes me feel I think that's the number one thing when I listen to music

I want it to impact me emotionally. That's part of why I listen to music

It's a really big part of it and I think most music out there if the musicians are good

Most music can impact you in some form or fashion in an emotional way. Hey, man. It's funny. Say that I did me name in ironically

Um

It's funny. Say that mad because last night I came up with what I think is one of the best sweet 16 topics

We've ever had I didn't even tell you this to wheels or to Andrew

But you guys can do it without me Monday or you can wait till I come back from spring training

But we've never done most emotional song

We've done saddest song. That would be a good one to wait for but whether it's happy or scared or angry or angry or

I don't know that one right but I

Did get the the 16 most hype songs emotive songs? Yeah, you know, it's um all right

So there's a there's a Christian like big mega Christian church and they do like music

They're called Hillsong and there's been a lot of controversy around them

There's multiple documentaries out there about some of the terrible stuff that's going on inside of that church

um and

Part of what they and this makes me like really think inwardly because

Part of what they do with their music is there there's like

Scientifically there's certain tones you can hit in music that is going to impact you emotionally

And I have felt that emotion so then at times I've thought inwardly like if I'm experiencing something in a worship setting

I do say to myself

Okay, is this meat connecting with God or is this the science of music impacting me in a in a certain way

And I think it's healthy to have those thoughts like I don't I don't I'm not less of a believer in God

Because maybe I'm being impacted by the scientific, you know usage of music

But it is something that at times I think through

It's so funny you say that um

Gosh what have probably been before I had my radio show and

Maureen and I were first dating and we're went to a church service with our friends Rick and Debbie

And it was a mission thing and it was to help out kids in Africa

And they wanted you to do the classic like I'll do $38 a month and they showed this kid and they're playing this music

And I'll never forget his name was Moffatio and I turned to Maureen and I said we weren't even married yet

I said we should adopt Moffatio and right then she

Should have known to run the other way because I was clearly too impulsive to to be in a relationship way

But like if they'd have given me a document to sign I would have adopted Moffatio that night

And it is largely because the music they were playing got to me so much

Yeah, it's a thing so there you go interesting

I don't want to steal your thunder from one hour from now when wheels ask you this question, but how is today?

It was okay. They played the the Nicaragua and WBC team like this gives you an idea of the way things went

Nicaragua didn't have enough pitching so the Cardinals gave them some minor league pitchers to use

So in the final three innings team Nicaragua was using Cardinals minor league pitchers

Yeah, there were the only guy who was in the lineup who's somebody who's for sure gonna be in the opening day lineup

Was a Von Herrera and he was there because they wanted him to catch four innings today

It was that was part of his plan

So it was it was a bunch of minor leagueers. It was fun to see dusty baker. He's managing the the Nicaraguan team

The I wish I would have taken video of it. I'm kicking myself because the optics

Nicaragua won the optics of them going through the handshake line and they're being their team colors are blue

So everybody's wearing blue except there's like six Cardinals players in there that were getting you know gifted to Nicaragua for the day

And so you know inner dispersed in the handshake line

There's random people wearing Cardinals road jerseys. It was just optically. It was a very weird sight to see

But yeah, I mean from a game standpoint now a lot now

I do think today was really impactful because

What they did they took victor Scott the second and like six or seven other guys

I don't know who I was back there. I would guess like probably Nolan Garmin and Jordan Walker and some other guys

They took them to the backfields today and they were doing some super intensive work on some very very specific things

Like they were able to take one or two

Deficiencies in those players swings and they went to the backfield and they went hard

On trying to work on those things because today was one of those days where bluntly

It wasn't going to do any good for Jordan Walker to be in the lineup. Yeah

Nicaragua. Hey before I throw into wheels

Have you seen Herrera really let it off the chain and throw yet

Not really he had a back pick in his last game and it was good

It was I mean there was the throw had some zip to it. It was over the first. It wasn't the second

It was on target

but

In terms of him being in the crouch throwing down to second to try to get a runner that has not yet happened

Welp

That's kind of one of the big things we need to see obviously he had other things to work on

You know because I think uh wasn't it was I don't know if it was on gas house or just maybe in general what Ali was talking about to like

Just you know pitch calling and you know working the game and being on the same page with your pictures

Like that's something that a young catcher needs to do and he didn't catch very much last year

He didn't and actually there was a conversation of topic today as well because they put him through

A very extensive curriculum

When it comes to calling pitches and things like that all while they were trying to reprogram

His throwing motion and they were doing that while he was coming back from injury too

Or you couldn't really throw that much so they put a lot on his plate

They feel really really good about where he's at

But Ali also very readily admitted today that this isn't something that they're really gonna be able to truly evaluate and spring

They're gonna have to see him in the regular season do some things to start to understand

Whether or not that offseason work was as impactful as they hope it is

Yeah, you're gonna you're gonna need to see what it looks like when it's when

Though it's like you're on the firing line and it's in a game and teams are running on you

Can I say exactly I know you guys aren't doctors

But the surgery that Herrera had is and I don't mean is it literally similar to Tommy John

I just mean no

Should he be fine now? Yeah

It was just some loose bodies in there that they had to go grab out of it. It was a it was a minor

The bone spurs and things form sometimes over years and they can just get caught and they cause pain

But has he ever in his career been known for having a gun no

No, okay now his pro to me again as a catching instructor

There's only so much velocity you're gonna add

There's just only so much you're gonna add he's got to be more accurate

And that's number one the balls got to be on the bag because he has that problem too

His throws tend to sail they tend to ride arm side

And you do want to miss on the on the first base side of the bag

I mean you want to be on the insides. What's an easy tag decent pop time? No

No, I mean again, I mean it's it well, but that's tied to velocity

Right, I mean like there's three elements that a catcher's got a balance to throw people out

You got to throw it somewhat hard

You've got to throw it straight and you got to get rid of it fast

And if I remember looking at it Matt

I think his his exchange time was pretty decent. It's okay. Like he's not slow getting rid of it

But when one of those three legs is struggling you're not gonna throw anybody out because you don't have that much wiggle room

Yeah, I mean you're talking about a tenth of a second wiggle room at most

Between safe and out and a lot of time to maybe me less than that one more question about base stealing

Obviously, we're talking about elite athletes and many of them are just fast as hell

how much

Which she think is more important as a

Pundit and as a coach and this format too when it comes to stealing

The big leagues is it more raw speed or is it more like they're so good at getting a jump

It's it's both it's being savvy as a base runner in knowing how to read a pitcher

And I'm gonna try to not answer your question

But this is the big leagues you can't everything that you do has to be done at a super high level

So the speed helps but the other stuff helps as well

But like Paul Goldschmidt was a really really good base dealer. He wasn't that fast

But he could pick and choose his spots

And that's why even Albert Pouls was not he didn't run a lot and he was very slow late in his career

But he knew the art of base running

So I don't know actually you know as I'm talking through this and mentioning some of these guys

I almost feel like

Understanding how to read a pitcher and when you should run and getting that jump there

Maybe there is even more value to that than just a loss of it

So like using it. I like Mason win as an example

He's really fast

not a great base dealer

He's not I mean, I don't know if I would call it terrible, but I think he's basically 67% success rate in his career something like that

Um

Yeah, something like that. I think he's stolen 22 and he's been thrown out 11 so that's exactly two thirds

That's not great for a guy that can run. It should be 80% or more for somebody that can run

So it's it's the speed and the speed can make up for a slower jump

But it's mostly about getting the timing down on what the pitcher does and a really good pitcher that changes the timing of their delivery

Can really mess up even the best base runner because if one time they're going on one beat

And then the next time they're going on three beats and then the next time they're not even taking a beat

And then the next time is five beats the more they're mixing that up and messing with you the more you have to kind of

Get it only from when you see the front foot lift as opposed to getting a timing mechanism

And then you throw in the catcher side of it

So if you got a catcher, you know is not that great

You're going to be more apt to take chances because not only can you be wrong on the timing

But you can also be safe because the throws off the bag or whatever

So it's a balance of those things, but the number one thing is what Matt was hitting on there

It's it's about anticipation and being able to get that first step if you can get the first step and a good timing

Then you're probably going to have a good chance

Most of the time bases are stolen on the pitcher

Most of the time yeah, except for when you have a catcher who has a hard time throwing

You know as ruffle time and then you're starting to run on that catcher

But most of the time it's a pitcher may be getting caught too predictable

Where they become the same and if I see a guy that's the same you can steal

Even even a regular even a slow person can steal when they're the same every time

Because you can figure out exactly the timing right and you can count it down in your head

All right, he goes on two one thousand one. I'm gone

Hey, Matt. Um, how have you been impressed either way with may

Uh physically and just as a guy just interviewing him

So we haven't seen him much tomorrow is going to be his first great fruit league start

We've seen him on the backfields and uh live bp's and then he he threw a simulated game as well

So it's hard to judge a guy off of that as as a guy I like him

I think he's perfect for this team

He's been through so much like there's something yeah

There's something to be said for dude to have actually lived life and he he was died like he almost died

and

That puts things in perspective and that allows I think that has value in anything you do including being a baseball player

Anything else quills?

No, I think that's it. I mean obviously we got a lot a lot to do starting up in about 45 minutes

Yeah, we'll start with one bit of blues news

I don't know if you guys saw the blues have reportedly traded Colton parake

Yeah, I just saw that starting to come across. Yeah, I'll look into it more. We'll talk about it next. All right. Thank you buddy

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Looking back DG as couple minutes in this segment

Wheels talking about Colton parake

All right

Well, so the latest and I give a hat tip tip the cap to Jeremy Rutherford of the athletic

Who had this about 12 minutes ago. I think saying that

The two teams the sabers and the blues have agreed to a trade that would send Colton parake out to Buffalo

But that it's still pending the players waving his no trade clause Darren Drager

Who's you know national or should say national North American NHL insiders based in Canada

He thinks it's gonna happen basically sounds like it's going to happen

So if it does then it's Colton parake out to the Buffalo sabers and in return the blues are getting a prospect

Um, he's a young defenseman. Radeem Merturka. He or I think that's how you say it's MRT. K.A

uh

Merca, I haven't heard his name pronounced since the draft last year and it was a year ago. So I don't remember

But he is a firt. He was the number nine overall pick last year and he's a six foot six two hundred twenty pound

defenseman at only 18 years old

So he's basically physically he's Colton paraco. Yeah same kind of physical dynamic

We don't know what he's going to be as a player

But when you're a top 10 pick yeah, you're a highly valued prospect apparently

There's another first round pick that's going to be involved and maybe some other pieces there as well

So we're waiting to sort that out

But at last check we were still waiting for like an official announcement only 30 seconds here

But what does that say about the blues parodon the rebuild is on okay?

I mean

It's kind of heading towards cardinal territory and there may be some other guys

I would I would bet at least two or three other guys are moved this week this week this week