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Welcome to the Epstein Chronicles.
Today was the final day of the first week
of the Galan Maxwell trial.
And we saw testimony from three more witnesses.
Now today there was a lot of testimony
that was, excuse me, a lot of the evidence
that was introduced under seal.
And a lot of the evidence that was introduced
during the afternoon portion of this
was visual in nature.
So there's not very much to go on as far as notes
for the duration of the afternoon sessions.
A lot of it was video and different packets
that were prepared for the jurors previously.
And so there's really not too much about that.
Now what we do know about those afternoon back and forth
we're gonna get to for sure.
And obviously Juan Alessi took the stand again today
and he had to face the cross examination
from Galan Maxwell's legal team.
And as you all know, their plan for keeps.
It's a scorched earth policy for Galan Maxwell's legal team.
And the same could be said for the way they went about it today.
They absolutely hammered Alessi on his credibility
and on a few of the other issues that we touched on
previously during his testimony,
such as the theft of the money, attempting to steal
a gun from Epstein, all kinds of wild stuff
that go towards, at the very least,
giving him the appearance of not being a credible witness.
And that's what the defense is looking to do, right?
In every aspect, they're looking to destroy the credibility
of any witness who might paint their client as guilty.
And Juan Alessi, you know, he's not somebody
who I have ever thought of as a decent human being
in this whole entire ordeal.
And him being a witness for the prosecution,
you would think that they would have had him prepared
to stand up a little bit better today.
But overall, I thought it was a relatively decent week
for the prosecution, not great,
but relatively decent week for them.
And I think that the testimony is just gonna get worse
for the defense.
Once the survivors are up on the stand
and they're giving their testimony
and they're telling their stories,
it's going to be very impactful.
And guys like Juan Alessi, well, they just, you know,
they fill in the blanks a little bit, right?
They can corroborate that Golan was the lady of the house,
that Golan was in Epstein's room, 95% of the time,
according to court testimony.
So that puts her at the scene of the crime, right?
And I'm guessing that that was the goal for prosecution.
Now, again, we're talking about somebody
who is not a great human being
and whose credibility can easily be poked at by the defense.
So what it will come down to,
like everything else in this trial,
is what the jury thinks about it.
What does the jury think?
Did the defense make a good enough argument
and put him in such a bad light
that they don't even pay attention to his testimony?
Or do they believe what Mr. Alessi said on the stand?
And, you know, move forward with that thought in their head
as this trial goes along.
And it looks to me, and again, folks,
I am certainly not a lawyer, right?
I'm not a journalist, nothing like that.
But it looks to me like the defense,
I mean, the prosecution is setting the foundation here
for the way that they're going to paint the picture,
bringing these ex-employees,
other people who might have been around as witnesses
to set the scene, and then the testimony
from the survivors themselves,
well, that's the hammer strike, right?
That's when you open up the heavens and let loose.
You build the foundation first,
and then you build the house on top of it.
So I'm guessing that's what the prosecution is doing right now.
But, like I said earlier,
there's a lot of things that were sealed today,
and I'm not a fan of that at all.
For those of you who have listened to my podcast
for the last two and a half years,
you know how I feel about transparency,
especially in cases like this,
when there's been a complete lack thereof.
So I think it's important to have as much transparency
as possible here,
and it was already beyond the pale
that there wasn't a call in line established.
So now you're going to continue to, you know,
play these transparent games,
at least transparency games, I mean,
and keep things sealed as they're being introduced as evidence.
So there was a whole bunch of that today,
not really a big fan, and again,
I'm not in that courtroom, right?
I don't know what the motivations are to keep it sealed.
But I'm working off of the premise
that I'm just tired of transparency,
no transparency in this case, in general.
And it is long beyond time
that this whole entire thing gets aired out,
that more people know what's going on here
or what went on here.
And there are so many people who are interested
in this case now that had no interest in it previously.
I can't tell you how many people I have had contact me
that I'm talking about people in my personal life
who have never really paid attention
to my yelling and screaming from every mountain top
about this, who are now interested in what's going on.
And I say, welcome, right?
I'm not one of these people who's going to deride you
or break your chops.
Hey, look, we're all ignorant until or not, right?
A lot of things I'm ignorant about.
And this case was one of them.
I was ignorant to this whole thing until I wasn't.
So those of you who have just found this case
and this story, look, there's gonna be a whole lot
for you to consume because there's so much more
than what you have been given, what you have been shown,
and even in this trial, what they're talking about.
Remember, this is a small scope of time
that Jeffrey Epstein and Maxwell were active.
And this is only a small amount of the girls
who were actually abused by them according to accounts.
So remember, this is, you know,
it's a cliche, the tip of the iceberg,
but this is legitimately the tip of the iceberg.
And I wish that there was more, right?
I wish there was more people on trial here.
I wish that this was a rico case, but it's not that.
The reality is it is what it is.
And hopefully, when all is said and done,
they have enough to prosecute Maxwell
and send her to prison for the rest of her life
because in my opinion,
that's where somebody who does these kinds of things belongs.
So today, the battle was on,
trying to get to a place where she does not have to go
to prison for the rest of her life.
So let's take a look at some of that testimony today.
And what I did was is I compiled it all
and then I put it into more of a digestible format
so that we could read through it
with a little bit less back and forth kind of make it,
I don't know, a little easier to consume
and hopefully a little shorter than the 42 minutes
or so that we've been rocking.
I know it's Friday and people got a lot going on.
Weekend, staring us down the face.
A lot of people want to relax a little bit
and hell, I'm gonna take a day off tomorrow myself.
So I get it.
With that said, I tried to compile this all
and put it into a bit of a digestible format.
We'll see what's up.
All right, so day five of the Maxwell trial.
Before the jury even got into the room,
the sparring had commenced.
Maxwell's lawyer was commenting about seeing
semen on the table could be prejudicial.
The prosecutor responds to this by stating that
it was a white stain and that it was relevant
in proving whether the massages were
or not sexual in nature.
Judge Nathan, she made a ruling that that would be
something that she would have to use lab tests to permit.
So remember, this is all before the jury even got into the courtroom
as per the notes that were coming out.
Prosecution went on to discuss the collection
of Jeffrey Epstein's schoolgirl outfits
and how that is relevant to the larger picture.
Of course, Maxwell's lawyers, well,
they shot back that the collection of outfits
has nothing to do with Maxwell and is prejudicial
against their client.
To that, the prosecution answered that the schoolgirl costumes,
small ones, they made a note of that,
absolutely disgusting animals were found in the massage room,
therefore making them relevant to the case at hand.
And you would think that would be the case, right?
If those schoolgirl outfits were found in the massage room
and we know that that was the room that Galen was
inhabiting according to other witnesses,
then that is certainly something that is relevant
and something that should be discussed.
And Jeffrey Epstein was known to have this collection
of schoolgirl outfits.
We know the stories about how he had one of these survivors
according to her account by a little cotton
like little girl underwear.
We've heard all of the horror stories about this guy.
So why anyone would think that he doesn't have
a collection of schoolgirl outfits is beyond me.
He certainly did, according to all of the accounts
that we have heard.
The defense, well, they changed their tactic
and they were like, you know what,
instead of the relevance of the schoolgirl outfits,
now they're asking that the costumes
not be described as schoolgirl outfits.
So you see what they do here, right?
Technicalities, trying to change their strategy,
mid-argument, and it went from the fact that,
oh, at first they're not relevant to now,
oh, well, let's just change the names.
We can't call them schoolgirl outfits.
That's prejudicial.
And this is the sort of sparring that was going on.
And this is what was going on in the courtroom
before the jury even stepped foot
into the courtroom this morning.
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So the prosecution says that they will just lay a foundation
and then ask the witness about the costumes in question form.
So they were wrangling and trying
to get procedural stuff out of the way
before Judge Nathan either even came into the room.
So Max, right when they start, right when the trial,
I mean, when the hearing commenced, they went right at it.
Maxwell's lawyers, they go in hard right away.
They go right after the fact that he took,
meaning a lessee from $6,300 from Epstein,
and they frame it as such.
You took $6,300.
So they're framing it right away.
They're leaving no question.
They're setting the question up at that they ask him
to leave no doubt.
You took the $6,300 and obviously he says,
yeah, he took it because he did take it, right?
That's not even a question.
So what they're trying to do is set it up
that he is not to be believed.
If he would take $6,300 from somebody,
then why would he be somebody who is credible?
Now remember, that's what the defense is trying to do.
This is a message that they continue to try to hammer home.
They then double down on this by asking him,
if he lied not only once, but twice.
A lessee responds that he didn't lie,
but the defense keeps banging away at it.
Didn't you try to steal a gun?
Didn't you try to steal over $5,000 to pay
for immigration papers for your girlfriend?
Pretty scuzzy line of questioning, right?
Why are you bringing up someone's immigration status
who isn't even involved in the case?
Obviously they'll try and say that was the cause
of a lessee taking the money,
but a lessee responded that it wasn't even his girlfriend.
After this exchange, the defense asks a lessee
if a police officer Dawson questioned him.
A lessee corrects the defense and tells the court
that he was the one who went to speak with officer Dawson.
So what he's saying is nobody had to come find me
to speak with me.
I went and talked to officer Dawson.
I was the one who of my own accord went there
and spoke with him and tried to get it all figured out.
You know, he was attempting to show
that he was doing this on his own
and wasn't in any trouble.
Then the questioning turned to the gun
and the defense asked if he told officer Dawson
that he went to Epstein's to steal a gun
and a lessee says he can't recall.
Now the defense loves that, right?
When you say you can't recall on the stand,
they're gonna try and use that if you misremembering.
They're gonna try and say that you have a terrible memory
and all of this stuff you're saying is incorrect.
But the defense, they won't let up on this fact
and they respond with you might have said
but you don't recall and again, they're trying to frame it.
So the jury sees that his memory is bad
or he doesn't remember correctly.
And that is the strategy.
It's going to be the strategy the whole way through
so just get ready for it.
Once again, the full court assault on his memory
and credibility keeps up by again asking a lessee
if he went back to steal money another time.
To this, a lessee responds that he only did it one time
and he thinks that that's what he told the police.
Once again, he thinks.
So the defense really had a quite the sparring session
with a lessee according to those who were in court
and it was a little tense at times as well.
The defense goes on to describe
how a lessee entered the house via the sliding last door
and swiped $5,600 from a white envelope
in one of Epstein's briefcases.
So a lessee sneaks in through the sliding last door,
takes $5,600 and hits the skids.
The lawyers continue to chip away at his credibility
as they once again ask him about the money that was stolen
and then add that money that was stolen
while a lessee was the owner of,
and then they ask him why that money was stolen
while a lessee was the owner of properties valued
at over $1 million.
So he had property valued at over $1 million
allegedly at this time according to Maxwell's lawyers,
but he still went ahead and stole that money from Epstein
and they're trying to once again frame it as this guy's a thief.
He's a, you know, a no good person
who shouldn't be believed.
He responded that he had sold those properties at the time
and he wasn't in possession of them.
Now, at this point, one of Maxwell's lawyers
says the name of one of the anonymous accusers
inside of the courtroom in open court
and I honestly, look, I don't have any evidence of this
but I honestly doubt it was a mistake.
The whole entire defense has been smarmy from day one
and they have decided to go scorched earth.
So why would this be any different?
Why would this be any different?
So I really hope that Judge Nathan really hammers them
for this.
Judge Nathan admonishes the defense
to abide by her rules and then the prosecution
demanded a sidebar directly after this incident happened.
The sidebar ends, they get back to the questioning
and when the lawyer, Pagliucha, asked about Jane again,
he emphasizes on the name Jane this time,
trying to, you know, like a smart-ass response
to the fact that he called Jane by her name in court
so kind of like a snarky way to say,
oh, Jane, is that what you mean?
So there's another quick back and forth
between Alessia and the defense lawyer
before they call for a break.
Now that's the early session,
the early back and forth, write a quick write-up
about what was going on with Alessia on the stand here
and it was pretty contentious.
That whole entire first portion of it,
no doubt about it, they went hard in the paint on them
and I can only imagine being in the courtroom
what, you know, the way that they built their argument here.
Definitely no holds barred
and it's just going to keep going on.
So I hope that the prosecution is prepared for that
and they're prepared to answer in kind
because this is obviously a no gloves fight, right?
This is a backyard brawl at this point
between the defense and the prosecution.
So I hope the prosecution bites down on their mouthpiece
and comes out swinging
and I think next week's going to be very crucial for the trial.
I think we're going to get more of an idea of which way we're going
and we're going to get more of an idea about, you know,
certain aspects of the prosecution's case moving forward.
So after the lunch break, Alessia is back on the stand
and the questioning turns towards Virginia Roberts
and what Alessia said about her yesterday.
They talk about him driving Maxwell to Mar-a-Lago
to pick up Virginia and what the weather conditions were like.
So again, looking to punch holes in his story.
They were going after the dates,
what the weather conditions were like
and really attempting to, you know, Swiss cheese it up.
The defense was trying to suggest that Maxwell
was there getting a treatment at Mar-a-Lago.
She wasn't there for any draconian purposes.
She wasn't there to recruit any kids.
That's why they were there, they were saying.
And Alessia responded to that by saying
he has no idea about her treatments
or what she was there for, you know, if that's the case.
All he could say is what he saw.
Alessia was also oppressed about Jeffrey Epstein's private life
and he said that Epstein didn't share his private life with him.
They also talked about pictures of Maxwell
that were on the walls
and how Alessia was instructed to take them down
when other women visited.
It was a whole entire package of crazy there, folks.
A whole entire package of effed up twisted way of life.
And all of these people that were around,
they give me the skeeves big time.
There was a bunch of weird behavior
by Epstein and Maxwell throughout their time together.
When asked why he had taken them down, his answer was,
I have no idea.
And they wouldn't share that with them, right?
They're not going to say to the hired hell,
hey, look, this is why I want you to take these pictures down.
Epstein and Maxwell weren't the kind of people
who want to have a discussion with the hired hell.
They give orders and you better jump to it
or they'll find somebody to do that for them.
There was questions asked by the prosecution,
also about foreign people who visited the properties
including those with accents,
and Alessia said that there were plenty of different accents
including, but not limited to,
English, French, and Italian accents.
We all know that Jeffrey Epstein thought he was this jet-setter.
We all know that he had contacts all over the world.
This was intercontinental.
This wasn't just in the United States of America.
This was happening all over the world.
And all of these people with all of these accents
come into Jeffrey Epstein's house.
How many of them were at levers of power?
Well, I'm guessing most of them.
Because Jeffrey Epstein didn't just hang out with regular people.
Him and Golan Maxwell, they only paled around with people
that could advance them and their agenda.
Now the prosecution starts in again on Alessia
about arranging massages for Epstein
at the breakers in Palm Beach.
And then they smack him with this one.
They ask him if him arranging massages for Epstein
at the breakers made him a trafficker also.
Which is garbage.
Those massages are at a real joint, right?
He's setting them up at a real joint to go get a massage.
Having these girls, 14, 15, 16, 17,
whatever it is, come to your house to give you a massage.
These aren't massage therapists.
These kids haven't even passed driver's ed in some cases.
These are kids that should be at cheer practice
or whatever the hell it is kids are doing these days.
So to try and conflate the two issues,
I mean, that's just crazy, honestly.
But that's the way that they're going to roll.
And whatever chance that the defense sees
to poke a hole in the armor,
to poke a hole in the prosecution's case,
they're going to go full bore and try and do it.
But this was a pretty, pretty shitty way to go about it, right?
Attacking people this way.
But it's the nature of the beast.
When he was asked if he thought that the people
sent a perform on Epstein's sessions were of age,
unless he responded that he believed they were.
He better respond that way, right?
Or else he is putting himself in a position
of enabling it and facilitating it.
Oh yeah, I thought they were on the rage,
but I just turned the blind eye.
Meanwhile, we know that's what most of these people were doing.
We've heard about the young Swedish girl
who was crying her eyes out.
Yeah, we've heard all the stories, Mr. Alessie.
And while some people might not be hip
to what went on with this dude, well, you know,
the fact of the matter is this.
I say it all the time.
There really are no good guys in this Epstein's Maxwell saga.
Plenty of dark characters and gray people.
The defense went on to ask about any situation
where Alessie heard saw or thought someone was in distress
while on the property, Alessie said no.
Paglioga then asked if anyone complained to him
and Alessie says no, but he wishes that they had
because then he would have been able to stop it.
Bro, really?
You didn't have any idea what was going on?
Got girls coming to stay the night
over at Old Jeffie's house and just all good.
No questions asked.
Anything to make sure that paycheck cash is right?
So that was pretty much the deal with Alessie.
And after this line of questioning,
he stepped down and there was no redirect.
So that concluded the cross examination of Juan Alessie.
And then the next witness was Gregory Parkinson,
a crime scene investigator from Palm Beach County
who had worked on the Epstein case the first time around.
Now this is the portion of the testimony
where a lot of the stuff was visual and digitized.
So there's really not too much to go on.
There's a little bit, right?
And we're going to get to it.
But the overall scenario is them talking about
the first raid of Jeffrey Epstein's Palm Beach home
during the original prosecution back in 2007, 2008.
And Jeffrey Epstein, obviously,
made the sweetheart deal, got the hook up
and didn't do any real jail time.
But the actual investigation into Epstein and Palm Beach
was a pretty thorough investigation.
And they were absolutely hamstrung by the state prosecutors,
meaning the police department, by the state prosecutors,
and then the feds on top of it.
I'm going to post a few episodes this weekend,
going into a little bit more about the situation
as far as how hard the Palm Beach Police Department worked
and how badly they wanted to put Epstein in prison,
and how they were just stopped in their tracks
pretty much the whole way.
So this gentleman that they're talking to on the stand now,
Gregory Parkinson, is a crime scene investigator
who used to work for the Palm Beach Police Department,
but he's now retired.
He worked on the Epstein investigation,
and now, as he's on the stand,
the prosecution enters all kinds of evidence into the record,
but obviously the press in the public were not privy to it.
It's under seal.
At one point, Maureen Komi asked,
what do we see here during the search,
and Officer Parkinson responded,
Epstein and the Pope,
meaning a picture of Epstein and the Pope.
There was also a picture of Epstein and Fidel Castro,
and a litany of other people.
I'm not going to get into it here,
but throughout the years,
we have talked about so many different pictures
that were found at Epstein's house
that were predominantly and prominently displayed.
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The prosecution continues to instruct the jurors
on what sealed items to look at,
one after the other.
Comey then asks that exhibit 234 be admitted
under seal of course,
and then some exhibits are for the public.
Exhibit 228, for example,
is one of those,
and Comey asks Officer Parkinson
what 228 contains,
and he responded that it's the garden room.
More sealed documents introduced
and instructions to the jurors
before Nathan announces another break.
So this is what I was talking about earlier.
We get to the point where there's not much
for us to consume as the public
for the afternoon session here.
So they get back from the break,
and the jurors continue to go over the evidence,
a lot of it sealed,
that pertains to Epstein's residences.
Some of the public photos include
one of the bathroom,
that has a pink couch,
and a phone,
and a portable inflatable massage table.
Now this is interesting.
The prosecution moves
to introduce exhibit 51 evidence,
which is a green massage table,
not an inflatable one.
And this is one of the massage tables,
allegedly, that was used.
So it's a very interesting
admission to the evidence.
So that was exhibit 51,
that wasn't sealed.
So we were able to get a look at that,
at least.
Now the witness goes in
for cross-examination,
and Christian Everdel takes over,
and he goes right after
the alleged alessie theft
from Epstein by asking Parkinson,
asking Parkinson,
if he responded to a burglary there.
Parkinson affirms that that is the case.
So what that does is it confirms
that alessie wanted to steal
from Epstein,
broke into the house,
stole the money,
it confirms all of that
by the police officer
who was attending the scene,
attending the complaint.
So again, trying to punch holes
in the credibility.
Everdel goes on to say
that Epstein reported
that several thousand dollars
had been stolen, right?
Parkinson responds that
that is true as well.
Most of this portion of the testimony,
like I said, is visual,
so there's not much to offer here.
After some more time of this witness,
he's excused.
And the next witness, Michael Dawson,
one of the detectives
who searched Epstein's residents,
hits the stand.
Now, this wasn't very long,
but we got some decent information
out of here, for sure.
He testified that they were searching
for sex toys, massage tables,
messages sent or received,
and any other material
that might be related to the warrant.
Maureen Komi asked,
what were you looking for
during the search?
Dawson responds to this,
massage tables and oils,
sex toys.
There are a lot of photos
of nude females.
We seized a phone book,
a massage table,
photo of a nude female,
a sex toy called the torpedo.
So, that's where
they pretty much stop that
for the day.
Right?
The time was running out.
There's 13 minutes left or so
in the trial,
and instead of hammering at home,
they're going to wait till Monday
to finish this testimony.
But, during the first search
of Epstein's house,
they found a whole bunch
of wacky weird shit.
A whole bunch of wacky stuff.
I mean, there's a picture
of Bill Clinton on the wall
in a blue dress
and some red pumps.
Pictures of all kinds
of naked people all over.
Obviously, pictures
of underage kids,
underage girls,
according to witnesses
and people who had been
there.
So, they found a whole bunch
of wild stuff,
during that first
raid of Jeffrey Epstein's house
when he was getting arrested
the first time around.
And it was, they had so much
that they were prepared
to really, really hammer this dude.
And once his all-star lawyer
team got involved,
Gerald Levquitz,
Alan Dershowitz,
you know,
the whole crew,
things change real quick.
So, it's a very
fascinating story
of disgustingness
and horribleness
and terrible dereliction
of duty by the authorities.
And if you're not familiar
with how it all went down
during the original arrest,
I'm going to post some episodes
over the weekend,
starting tonight,
that'll give you more
of an idea of the absolute
travesty that happened
down in Palm Beach.
So, with that folks,
we're going to wrap it up
for the weekend.
And, you know,
we'll be back this weekend,
Saturday and Sunday,
I'll have these context
episodes rocking and rolling,
but Monday morning,
we'll hit the ground running,
and one week closer to me,
getting to New York,
right after the holidays,
I'm on a plane,
and I'll be in New York
for probably the last,
oh, I don't know,
10 days of this trial or so,
and we'll be able to get
a little more from inside the courtroom,
hopefully,
and I'll be able to provide a
more comprehensive look
at what's going on,
once I'm on the ground.
But until then,
we'll be here every single day,
same time,
same format,
and keeping the flags
of discontent wave in folks,
to all of you who have
joined the podcast recently,
I appreciate you all riding with me,
and I hope that,
as we move forward,
those of you who might not
have known about this case,
I hope that you see it
for what it really is,
and I hope it pisses you off
because it should.
All right, everybody,
please enjoy your weekend,
if you're all going,
if you're going out tonight,
party in or whatever,
please do it responsibly.
Don't need, you know,
any car accidents
or any of you
making any bad mistakes.
So please,
if you're going to go out tonight,
have a great time,
but do it safely.
I want you all back Monday.
We have some criminals
to see,
get convicted.
If you'd like to contact me,
you can do that at
bobbikapuchi
at protonmail.com.
That's B-O-B-B-Y-C-A-P-U-C-C-I
at protonmail.com.
You can also find me on Twitter,
at B-O-B-B-Y-U-C-C-I.
Hi, I'm Alicia,
and I'm Stacy,
and we make trashy divorces,
everybody's favorite
good podcast
about bad relationships.
Looking for something
true crimey
without the gore
or the body count?
We've been
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check out trashy divorces,
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Trust us,
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