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Welcome back to the Epstein Chronicles.
Oh, so you want to talk about more corruption at the FBI?
When it comes to Jeffrey Epstein?
Well, I got you covered,
because that's what we're going to do again on this episode.
The fact that this man was protected for so long by who knows who?
All right, I won't speculate, but who knows who?
Somebody was protecting him,
and the fact that he was able to do what he was able to do
for so long proves that point.
There's a lot of people out there that will try and act like Epstein
wasn't some sort of informant for the government,
and I find that laughable at best.
And if you have information or evidence that can prove that,
I'd love to see it.
But there is evidence to the contrary
that Jeffrey Epstein certainly was at the very least
an informant for the federal government,
the FBI, the CIA, whoever.
How do you not go to jail for the Tower Ponzi scheme?
How do you not go to jail during bears and sturns?
How do you not go to jail for molesting a bunch of little girls?
Unless you're being protected by some powerful ass people,
and why do those people protect you?
Well, it's not because they're nice.
It's not because they decided one day
that they're going to be the patron of Jeffrey Epstein.
Epstein was giving them something back, right?
Compromote, blackmail, videotape, surveillance, all of it,
all of the stuff that the FBI said they seized,
that we have no idea where it is now.
What was on those hard drives?
What sort of video information do they have,
and they're sitting on?
Anyone who is in those videos,
at the very least, should be brought in and deposed, right?
But for some reason, that's not the case.
In fact, their work was so shoddy that when the FBI,
first rated Jeffrey Epstein's house,
they didn't even take the hard drives with them.
They left them there.
And then, well, of course, Richard Concombs takes those hard drives,
leaves with them for a few days,
and who knows what happens to them?
Now, I'm not saying he erased anything, or,
but I don't know what he did.
Nobody does.
That's why there's a chain of custody.
But it sure seems that the chain of custody
is never respected when it comes to Jeffrey Epstein.
So, instead of writing your pieces on conspiracy,
all right, why don't you dig in deep
and ask some of these government officials
why they flood the ball so bad
for so many years when it comes to Jeffrey Epstein?
And I don't want to just hear about a Costa anymore.
That's some straight-up bullshit.
Sure, a Costa has his blame in this.
He has no backbone.
He's a coward.
He should have stood up to his bosses and said,
I will not take part in this deal.
He didn't do any of that.
But if you think a Costa made that decision on his own,
I don't know what to tell you.
Because that comes from on high, folks.
That comes from Justice Department Central.
And Moucazi was the man in charge at the time.
You never hear his name brought up, do you?
Today, we have an article from Coastal Network.
Headline.
Jeffrey Epstein and corruption in the FBI and US court system.
This article was published November 4th of 2020.
Jeffrey Epstein, a high-profile individual,
evaded serious charges in the US government.
Jeffrey Epstein, a hedge-fung manager, pedophile,
with many high-profile acquaintances,
which was charged with sex trafficking of miners last year
after learning young girls to his Palm Beach mansion for years.
As someone with seemingly unlimited power and influence,
Epstein somehow evaded serious charges from the government
until 2019, with accusations dating back to the early 2000s.
Now, you show me another person who has been able to so
definitely avoid the federal government for so long
with so many charges hanging over their head.
Bro, John Gotti couldn't do it, right?
John Gotti's dance was interrupted.
Paul Castelano, we can go on and on of powerful Mafioso
who was brought down by the federal government.
But Jeffrey Epstein has so much power, has so much reach
that he's able to operate his disgusting business
for all of these years.
The Epstein case brings the state of corruption in the FBI
and US justice system to light.
Many questions have arisen regarding how the case was handled
by the FBI and how the sweetheart deal was made.
Epstein, who died by suspected suicide, allegedly, in 2019,
was finally charged by Florida prosecutors in 2008
when he pleaded guilty.
They might as well have just gave him a slap on the wrist, right?
Listen folks, we gave Jeffrey Epstein a good stern talking to
and he's not going to do what he did ever again.
Meanwhile, he continued to do it after his arrest,
after his release, and while he was out on work release.
So please save the bullshit for somebody that's buying it.
I have had my fill of the cover up here.
Corruption in the US system enabled Epstein to walk free for years.
Jeffrey Epstein's case depicts deep corruption in the US court system.
After being accused of trafficking and abusing young girls,
Epstein was merely given an 18-month sentence,
a slap on the wrist for such a heinous crime.
Not only did Epstein receive a lenient sentence of solicitation
of prostitution as part of the sweetheart deal,
but he only served 13 months during which he was free much of the time on work release.
And while he was out on work release according to reports,
he was abusing people.
So while the US government was supposed to be watching him,
he was abusing people.
Now we see the lawsuit from the gymnasts against the federal government and the FBI
because of Larry Nasser.
I would love to see the same thing here,
because the FBI, the government, they really loved it.
They really, really loved it.
And they shouldn't be given any quarter when it comes to this situation.
Alexandra Costa, the US attorney in Miami at the time,
is one of the key figures who mishandled the Epstein case
and granted the sweetheart deal.
A Costa's office broke the law by not disclosing the deal to survivors.
Oh, I thought the court said something different.
Oh, nobody broke the law here, it was improper,
but the law wasn't broken.
You notice how the court never holds itself responsible?
Oh, the whole Jew responsible.
You out there with a dime bag of weed
and one of these repressive ass states,
you're gonna go to jail.
But these dudes can lie and run operations
where they're covering for pedophiles and it's all good.
He had the power to lock Epstein away for life,
yet allowed the sex offender to roam free for another decade.
And I agree with that, he was part of the problem,
but the real problem for me goes all the way to the top to the DOJ.
A guy like a Costa isn't making a decision like this in a vacuum.
In the summer of 2019, Epstein was arrested and charged
with sex trafficking by federal prosecutors.
A Costa was not the only official
that seemed to be in Epstein's corner.
The office of the New York District Attorney, Cyrus Vance,
argued that Epstein's status as a sex offender can be reduced.
How about that good ol' Cyrus Vance
from the New York Prosecutor's Office?
You know the big mouths who run around
and who talk about how they're, you know,
these proper people and how everybody else's
an insurrectionist or this or that or the other thing?
You know all the divisive rhetoric that they like to use?
Meanwhile, it's convenient for them to forget
that Epstein was active right under their noses for decades
and these people didn't do shit about it.
So how about you answer for that, Mr. Cyrus Vance?
How about you answer for that?
All of you over at the SDNY and at the New York Attorney's Office.
Epstein's defenders, the Costa and Vance,
are in the public realm and should be held accountable
for their leniency.
At least 80 teenagers, most between the ages of 13 and 16,
when abused, came forward with similar stories
of being lured to Epstein's mansion.
Yet both a Costa and Vance chose to ignore survivors
and side with a predator, simply because he had money
and the power of influence.
And he was being protected by some pretty powerful people.
A Costa said about intelligence, himself.
So who from intelligence was involved here?
Let's get Costa deposed, put them on the bench.
Let's see what's up.
What intelligence agencies approached you?
But we can't even get that.
And instead of people from NPR, these other outlets
digging deeper into why things are being hidden from the public,
instead they try and attack people in the public.
Does that sound like the proper way to go about it
if you're looking for the truth?
Corruption in the prison system.
On August 10, 2019, Epstein was found dead in his jail cell.
The forensic report showed the cause of death is suicide,
though many people are skeptical
and don't believe that Epstein killed himself.
Ultimately, two jail guards at the Metropolitan Correctional Center
in Manhattan were charged with falsifying records.
The two guards initially claimed to have done their nightly rounds
but footage suggests otherwise, and they confess to messing up.
The circumstances surrounding the suicide and how jail guards
did not notice has been a source of conspiracy theories and suspicion.
Well, you can end all of it by being transparent.
That's how you end conspiracy theory with transparency and truth.
But when there's a lack of that from the federal government,
people are left to come up with their own stories, their own, you know,
reasons for why things happened.
And of course, there's grifters out there that will play on people.
They'll play on their biases and they'll come up with all kinds of wild conspiracy theories.
There's no doubt that happens.
But if you're going to talk about conspiracy theory and people who are pitching them,
then speak directly to the people who are out here pitching conspiracy theories.
Don't malign a whole community of concerned citizens who are demanding justice.
An end to trial and co-conspirators.
Though Epstein's death brings an end to the case, it is not the end of the investigations.
Epstein's main co-conspirator, his longtime girlfriend, Galen Maxwell,
was recently arrested for her role in the sex trafficking of minors,
and we know the story of her now, she's in prison for 20 years.
Other prominent figures who mingled with Epstein and Maxwell are also under scrutiny.
A survivor accuses Prince Andrew of sex with minors,
and says that Epstein trafficked many of the underage girls to have sex with prominent men.
Other politicians and celebrities who socialize with Epstein are also under the public eye,
including President Trump, former President Bill Clinton, Kevin Spacey,
and Woody Allen to name a few.
The Epstein corruption saga is not over.
For those who are involved need to be held accountable,
so justice can be brought to the survivors.
Now that sounds like a tune I'd like to dance to,
a little bit of justice in a world filled with injustice,
sounds like a pretty good time to me.
Alright folks, that's going to do it for this episode.
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Our article today is from law and crime.
This article is from September 21st, 2019.
Headline, former Epstein work release guard,
destroyed PBSO records are the smoking gun.
This article was authored by Jerry Lamb.
And again, I'm adding a little more meat to that bone, right?
Some more context to what we've been talking about down in Palm Beach
and to give you a little bit more of an idea on why I think that
it's going to be a huge focus in this case as we move forward.
And especially, especially if the 11th Circuit Court of Appeals
overturns the whole thing, then it is game on for sure.
But as of right now, I truly believe that the public corruption's unit
has Florida directly in their crosshairs.
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A West Palm Beach County Sheriff's Deputy on Friday divulged first-hand information
relating to Jeffrey Epstein's controversial work release program.
The deputy who spoke to WPTV on the condition of anonymity
is the first PBS soap deputy to speak out about the office's special treatment
of the now deceased Epstein.
Okay, so if this person spoke out to the paper, right,
is speaking out to the media on the condition of anonymity,
you would think that if the public corruption's unit is digging in here,
that they are going to try and track down whoever this person is,
or others like this person who have firsthand knowledge
and get them to go on the record about what occurred.
Because it's obvious here that the law was broken,
it is obvious here that the victim's rights were not respected,
and it is also obvious here that more people,
besides the ones that have been discussed at length like Acosta,
need to be brought to account here, okay?
And when we're talking about Florida,
Barry Krischer is the first person that comes to my mind.
When you go against the grain, if you rock the boat,
if you raise your voice about something that you don't think is on the up and up,
the sheriff's office is very vindictive,
the deputy told contact five,
and I've heard a lot of that about Palm Beach.
I've heard that there is a lot of that kind of behavior
and thought process amongst the rank and file
that it's not a good idea to rock the boat down there,
and you should just do what you're told.
And that seems to be pretty prevalent in sources
that I've spoke with who were involved in law enforcement,
who were tasked with chasing down Jeffrey Epstein.
When I was in New Mexico, and I spoke to one of my sources,
an ex law enforcement agent, they were of the same mind.
They were so disillusioned with how things were going,
and with how people like Jeffrey Epstein and his rich cohorts
were able to finesse local politicians and state politicians
that they decided to give up their lifelong dream of being a law enforcement agent
after over a decade pursuing it.
That's how disillusioned they were with what was going on.
And you see that with a lot of these ex-police officers
or people who speak out who were involved with the Jeffrey Epstein case,
they just have, they ran into roadblock after roadblock after roadblock
trying to prosecute this guy, trying to get this guy behind bars
in a manner that is fitting for somebody that is as big of a predator
and as big of a danger to the community as he was.
And you see it with a lot of these guards that speak off the record,
a lot of these cops that speak off the record,
and it's always the same story.
And that story is you cannot go after the political donor class.
It's like they're their own class of people, right?
These big wigs, these bag men,
these people that are spending money hand over fist on politics.
These are the sort of people that you just cannot go after in these investigations.
And that's what I heard from the sources that I've talked to
and what you see here from these types of articles
where we hear from people who were directly involved in what was going on
and how it was almost impossible for them to do their job correctly.
The deputy then described Epstein's 2008 and 2009 work release program,
a privilege he was able to attain despite pleading guilty to soliciting prostitution from a minor
as being in clear violation of protocol,
which called for deputies to have eyes on Epstein at all times.
And again, this goes into what I'm talking about with the public corruption's unit.
If they weren't doing their job and they let Epstein roam around free
and he was allowed to abuse, traffic, whatever have you,
then I think that that would definitely be the sort of thing that the public corruption's unit
would want to take a look at, right?
For starters, when you signed up for that detail,
it was a plain closed detail and that almost never ever happens to the deputy said,
we were told to follow his vehicle in our own sheriff's issued vehicle.
I was told when he went to his house to stay in the driveway.
I don't know what happened behind closed doors when he went in the house and allegedly had lunch.
You know, he could have been doing anything during that time frame.
That is one of the reasons I stopped working the detail.
And again, if you're one of these rank and file police officers, right?
I mean, your job is hard enough before everything that has just started to occur in this country.
Now, forget it.
So you can't...
You have your superiors telling you to sit in the driveway.
You don't know what's going on in the house.
Anyone could be there.
What if a girl was brought there before you guys got there?
What if you had that all set up with his procure and his groomers?
And there's a deputy in the front?
Well, Jeffrey Epstein is abusing a girl in the back.
Well, if that's out of the realm of possibility with Jeffrey Epstein,
I'm sorry, folks.
It is not.
And these cops?
I mean, imagine being this guy?
Your superiors are like, all right, we need you to watch Epstein.
But here are all your rules.
And they give you a rule book that's from the floor to the ceiling high.
It's just absurd.
The whole entire case surrounding Jeffrey Epstein is absurd.
Everything about the way they tried to quote-unquote prosecute him the first time around is absurd.
And the reactions from those involved are most assuredly absurd when they are called out on their behavior.
When asked who Epstein consorted with while working, the deputy said the majority of people he remembered seeing were 20-year-old females and well-dressed business attire.
Well, I don't know how you could tell they're 20-year-old females.
I guess maybe as a cop you have a better idea.
I guess maybe from looking at people's ideas, I don't know.
I'm not good at that age stuff.
When I was young, I worked at a casino here in Las Vegas called Treasure Island.
And they used to have this midway down there where they had all of these like carnival-type games.
And they used to have this weight-guessing game.
And you would have to guess people's weight, guess their age, the whole nine.
And I was absolutely atrocious at it.
I cannot tell you how many stuffed animals I ended up giving away on that stupid game.
So much so that they moved me to a different game.
So that goes to tell you how good I am at guessing people's ages.
I'm just terrible at it.
So maybe this cop is a little bit better than I am.
But I really don't know how you can tell how old somebody is these days.
I thought it was strange that besides me, myself and Mr. Epstein, we were the only males in the office.
I remember I took note of it mentally, the deputy said.
What else was unusual about it was the fact that he was allowed to leave the office
and go to his residence to have lunch.
I've never, ever been to a detail where that was allowed to happen.
So again, these people who put this in place, all right?
The prosecutors, dertiwits, left court, star, and the rest of them.
All need to be held to account.
Why did Jeffrey Epstein get special privileges that other inmates did not have?
And who was the one who initiated it and then who put it into play?
Those are the questions that you would think the public corruption's unit are mulling about right now.
Multiple women have filed lawsuits alleging that they were flown from New York to Palm Beach
and forced to have sex with Epstein during his work release hours.
Right there, that alone should make the state of Florida complicit.
And the girls who were abused when supposedly this animal was under wraps and under guard,
they should sue the state of Florida, the prosecutors, and I would go after dertiwits too.
I don't know if that would work out or whatever, but I'd go after all of those people.
Because they all helped facilitate this abuse even after they knew what Jeffrey Epstein was.
How dare you let this guy out on work release.
How dare you not bury him underneath the prison and get rid of the keys.
The deputy further told contact five, he and others were mainly supposed to just sit in front of Epstein's property
and just log the names of any person who came or left the office.
However, when contact five requested a copy of the logs kept by deputies guarding Epstein,
PBSO spokeswoman Terry Barbera confirmed that the records were, get ready for this folks,
destroyed according to their public records schedule.
Isn't that just convenient Mrs. Barbera?
The records are destroyed, the video is destroyed, everything's destroyed.
You know what's really destroyed? The official narrative, that's what's really destroyed.
It is quite obvious that their official narrative is and always will be straight up garbage.
Jeffrey Epstein was protected by the prosecutor's office and not only that,
because of that protection, they helped facilitate the abuse of every single girl who was abused
while he was supposedly under their watch and they must answer for that.
That sounds like the smoking gun right there said the deputy about the destruction of the records.
That is highly suspect, especially with the sheriff's office, where they keep records of everything
and in this day and age, with computers and trillabite memory sticks and all this other jazz.
You don't need to destroy no records, everything that is of public concern should be stored and saved.
Destroying public records, what a bunch of garbage.
It must be nice to have that to fall back on.
Yeah, you know, we had that stuff, but Joe on his lunch break just put that in the shredder 10 minutes before you got here.
What a coincidence.
Are these people for real?
How is it that we have been asleep at the wheel for so long folks?
My fellow Americans, how is it that we have not held these people to account?
I don't know about you, but the days of letting this shit slide,
the days of not paying attention to what these scumbags are up to, those days are long over.
In an email to the news outlet, Barbara said any such allegations were false.
The allegations you were depicting below are factually untrue and or inaccurate.
Due to the ongoing criminal investigation that is being completed by FDLE,
no other response regarding these allegations will be given by the sheriff or the PBSO further.
Your email will be forwarded to the FDLE for further investigation into the deputies' allegations.
I just love it, I love it, I love it.
Due to the ongoing criminal investigation, we're not telling you shit.
How often do they use that as an excuse?
That's another thing that needs to be addressed with all of this criminal reform we're talking about, okay?
I don't want to hear that BS anymore.
Oh well, this is under investigation so that we can't give you any information about it.
Well, it's really easy for the government to initiate an investigation to keep the information from the public, isn't it?
And we have already established we can't trust the jackenapes that run our government, can we?
And I don't just mean this administration folks, okay?
I'm talking about all of them collectively.
So, why would we believe anything that Miss Barbarra has to tell us about procedure or otherwise when it comes to the shit show that is the Jeffrey Epstein case?
And if anybody is going to be looked at through the microscope and have a nice bright light shine directly on them from the public corruption's unit, I think that the perfect destination.
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Stop everyone and welcome back to the Epstein Chronicles.
In this look back episode, we're going to hear from former police chief Michael Ryder of the Palm Beach Police Department.
This article was published by NBC News and it was published on September 20th of 2019.
The authors of this piece, Sarah Fitzpatrick and Rich Shapiro.
Former Palm Beach Police Chief Michael Ryder spent years trying to convince state and federal prosecutors in Florida to bring serious charges against Jeffrey Epstein.
Now the retired lawman wants to tackle a new mission, to persuade lawmakers to take action to prevent the next Jeffrey Epstein from perverting the criminal justice system.
Now Michael Ryder was one of the only good guys, if there were any good guys if you will, in the whole entire Epstein saga.
This guy listened to what these girls said, compiled a whole bunch of evidence, and then turned that evidence over to the prosecutors.
Now once the prosecutors have that evidence, it's up to them to do the right thing with it, right?
It's up to them to make sure that they get indictments, and then after they get the indictment, it's up to them to make sure that these people are convicted.
So they failed, the prosecutors in Florida failed, the police officers in Palm Beach who worked this case originally, they did great work.
The investigators were all over this, they compiled all kinds of evidence.
When it comes to Jeffrey Epstein, it was the prosecutors, once again, who decided not to pursue it.
Epstein found every loophole Ryder told NBC News as part of a month's long date line investigation.
I want some system in the future that this can happen again, he's not wrong.
One of the ongoing conversations we've had about these people, all of them, is how they navigate loopholes, how they navigate technicalities, and somehow harness them always to work in their favor.
Now I guess that's what they were put into these laws for in the first place, right? So the rich people can navigate them and not get in trouble when they're the ones who get slapped with them.
Like we said previously several times, it's like when you have a computer programmer who creates software, they leave themselves a little back door so they can access it, right?
Same thing here, they know that the small folk us are going to be the ones who have to live up to these laws, not them, not their friends.
Ryder said he believes the state and federal prosecutors handling of the Epstein case amounts to the worst failure of the criminal justice system in modern times.
Look, he's not wrong. It's the reason we're still talking about this right now, it's that impactful, it's that important, about how the criminal justice system is conducted moving forward.
We need something that provides equitable law for everybody. If you're a girl from the quote-unquote other side of the tracks and you say you were abused by a rich and powerful man and there's evidence to pack that up, you should be listened to.
And for way too long, these guys had all of their loopholes, all of their technicalities, and they were able to navigate the criminal justice system by using those and harnessing the relationships that they built with the other so-called elite and that amounted to get out of jail free cards.
The story begins in March of 2005 when the Palm Beach Police Department received a call from the distraught mother of a 14-year-old girl. Now imagine being the cop on the other end of that phone call.
Yeah, this is the Palm Beach Police Department, Sergeant Stanton speaking.
Oh my God, my daughter has been abused, but okay, hold on, ma'am, slow down, and then you start processing the details and the name that's being dropped and all of a sudden you know right away, you have yourself a big problem.
Because when rich people are accused of stuff like this, they automatically strike back and there's you know problems for the people who bring this stuff up.
So I'm sure the cops weren't too happy to hear the name Jeffrey Epstein, but what I will say about the Palm Beach Police Department, they didn't shy away from it, they did their job, they did their duty.
The woman, writer recalled, said her underage daughter was having sex with an adult who lives in a mansion in Palm Beach. Palm Beach Police detectives immediately launched an investigation. Yeah, that's probably the right thing to do.
You got some guy living in a mansion and he's having a relationship with a 14-year-old girl.
It's probably a good idea to launch an investigation and I don't care who that person is in the mansion.
I don't care if it is the most famous person in the world.
You can't be abusing children, okay?
So the Palm Beach Police Department, they started going hard and if you know the story, well you know that they really were kicking in some doors and asking some very uncomfortable questions.
Do you think it's just a shock, just a coincidence that this got kicked away to the feds and then back down to the state level?
They wanted it to look like, oh yeah, we're going to take action, we're going to kick it up to the feds, but really they never had any intention of the feds prosecuting this case.
They said this is credible. This is believable, said writer, speaking in his first in-depth TV interview.
Our sense just from sitting in the room with the first survivor was that this is something we've absolutely got to get on.
So right from Jump Street, the Palm Beach Police Department knew that this was something way bigger.
And Michael Ryder, the chief here, he didn't spare any expenses, right? He was all over this.
He had his investigators looking into it, chasing down leads, and what they uncovered, what they found, was terrifying.
The interview with the initial young girl led to another and another.
I have no problem telling you everything that I know one of the girls told the police in a videotaped interview obtained by NBC News.
Another told police that Epstein pulled out this vibrator thing and he pulled down my panties.
Now remember, they only listened to had one girl speak in front of the grand jury. Why?
If all of these girls came forward with all of these credible allegations, why only have the one girl speak in front of the grand jury?
That does not make sense.
The investigators were immediately struck by the consistency of the accounts Ryder said.
The stories were all the same, he said. They all could describe the house in detail. They could describe what happened, and they didn't know each other.
It wasn't like all these girls got together and said, all right, we're going to take down Jeffrey Epstein, the guy who lives in the mansion down the block.
Nobody even knew Epstein really was at this point. He wasn't a celebrity.
So that whole line of thinking has always been garbage to me. These were just young kids, high school kids, younger in some cases.
But the detectives also observed that the accounts weren't perfectly aligned. That would have been a red flag that the stories were coordinated, Ryder said.
The investigators also noted something else of significance. Many of the survivors didn't know each other. So there was little chance that they would have come together to concoct false allegations.
And that of course was the bedrock of Epstein's defense, right? This is all fake. Everyone's looking for a payday. I'm like a piggy bank, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Within those first few weeks, the investigation was already bearing fruit. We realized this was basically a way of life for Epstein, Ryder said.
And it didn't take long to realize that a lot of people were involved in this. This was a very prolific sexual predator.
Now listen to what the chief of police is saying here, okay? And this is what I always tell you to do. Don't listen to me. Don't listen to Joe Schmo, who has the other podcast.
Listen to what these policemen say. Listen to what these investigators say. Listen to what the survivors say.
There were a lot of people that were involved in this. This was a very prolific sexual predator. That's not so in making up a story.
That's not some guy who just got involved in the case yesterday. That's Michael Ryder, the man who investigated this as the police chief in Palm Beach, who blew this shit open.
He even knows how much more and how deeper this goes.
Detectives pick through Epstein's trash and discovered incriminating messages on scraps of paper documenting phone calls.
She is wondering if 230 is okay. She needs to stay in school, red one. Imagine. And whoever took that note down is another piece of shit.
What do you mean she needs to stay in school?
Why are any school-aged girls calling Jeffrey Epstein in the first place?
The note it was clear to police were about massages and sex, Ryder said. And it just wasn't phone messages, Ryder said.
Epstein had flowers delivered to one of the survivors who was in a performance at her high school congratulating her at the end of the performance.
Now imagine how brazen you must be. This high school-aged girl that you're sexually abusing. She has this high school performance and you send her flowers?
Now I know if I was the dad of that girl, there would be problems. Conversations would be had.
This dirty son of a bitch was so brazen in his behavior, so brazen in his activity that he would send flowers to a girl after her performance.
NBC News has spoken with nearly two dozen women who alleged that Epstein didn't operate alone.
Ryder said the investigation identified adult women who had sexual contact with underage girls and in some cases performed sexual battery on children.
This was a financially successful, smart, capable, well-networked and well-financed individual who built an organization around him that supported his criminal enterprise, Ryder said.
Now if you're wondering why I always talk about Rico and how this isn't a Rico case, folks what more do you need? I mean honestly.
And again, this is another reason why I've chosen the format that I have chosen to follow along with these articles.
That way everything is uniformed. It's not me making this stuff up, right? Or, oh, this is just a guess by me.
This is from curating all of these articles and following all of this evidence and listening to what the key players had to say.
For me, survivors, lawyers, and the law enforcement agents on the ground, not the jerk-offs in the back room, not the acostas of the world, guys like Michael Ryder.
And when you listen to what they have to say, it is rather obvious that this was a criminal enterprise that should have been recode and everybody involved should have seen a prison cell.
But as the months wore on with police building their case, odd things began to happen.
When detectives armed with a search warrant entered his home with a video camera, what they found made them suspect he had been tipped off.
The place had been cleaned up, Ryder said. It wasn't completely the void of evidence, but a computer that contained all of the home surveillance camera footage was gone.
And all the wires were left hanging there, Ryder said. So they did a dump and pump.
Came in, ripped everything out real quick, all of the monitoring equipment because somebody in the government tipped them off.
One of their buddies, but not Jeffrey Epstein, wasn't connected. He wasn't an asset.
After six months of investigation, Ryder said the local police department noticed a shift in attitude from the state prosecutors.
Ryder said the prosecutors told him the witnesses were not credible.
The prosecutors, Ryder, said, suddenly seemed dismissive of the case.
And were uncooperative in approving critical investigative techniques that hindered the Palm Beach police department's investigation.
No shit. No shit they were. These guys were working behind the scenes with Epstein's lawyers to make sure this went nowhere, or at the very least make sure Epstein got just a little smack on the ass.
No real jail time, 13 months in a stockade.
Are you kidding me right now? I've had punishments from my parents that were worse than that.
Epstein, who had a massive bankroll and extensive connections, had assembled a high-powered team of lawyers, including Kenneth Star, Alan Dershowitz, Jack Goldberger, and J. Leftquits.
Around this time, Ryder said, the investigation took another strange turn.
Epstein's defense teams seemed to know details about the probe before they were made public.
Whoa, what do you know? Just take your pick from Ken Star, Alan Dershowitz, Jack Goldberger, or J. Leftquits, about who could have manipulated their influence, their relationships behind the scenes to turn it into something like this.
Folks, we talk about it all the time. When you go to Harvard, and you get your law degree, and then you're practicing law, people aren't really paying you because you went to Harvard, per se.
They're paying you because now you have access to all of the other scoundrels who went to Harvard, so you have inside connections, you have access.
And that's what you're paying for when you get a high-profile lawyer.
Your lawyers are going out to eat and dinner, and who knows what else, with these prosecutors down here in Florida, at least, and at the federal level, when we're talking about Mukaze and the others.
And then we wonder why Epstein doesn't get punished like the rest of us would.
How many of you gotten an invite to go play around the 18 with insert federal official here?
We believe that the content of our probable cause affidavit eventually, sometime after we presented it to the State's attorney's office, ended up with the defense attorney's writer said,
because minute details that nobody else knew that were in those documents were being refuted and contrary information provided by the defense.
This writer said, never happened to me before in my career, and this is a guy again, he's in Palm Beach dealing with rich, powerful people, never in his life as he dealt with something like this, however.
But no, continue to tell me that Epstein wasn't getting hooked up, that nobody was there helping him make sure that the walls don't fall in, and then tell me that this wasn't a rico case.
Writer was so frustrated that he took the unusual step of asking the State Attorney Barry Krischer to remove himself from the case, citing the office highly unusual treatment of the investigation.
When that didn't work, the police chief turned his evidence over to the FBI, and you would think, right, the g-men are coming, this is awesome.
Alright, perfect, the FBI, they're going to save the day.
And look, don't get it twisted again, folks, I'm not talking about your average agent, that's working his tail off or her tail off to try and keep us safe.
There's a lot of those people that are going after some horrible fucking criminals.
My problem isn't with them, my problem is with the command structure, the bureaucracy that runs this whole entire monolith.
They look at us like we're just numbers, like we don't matter, as far as, you know, the citizens of this country, and they feel like they've been given the charter to do as they wish.
And how many times do we see good agents like, or good cops in this instance, like Mike, Mike Ryder gets screwed by prosecutors and these federal minions at the Department of Justice.
Those are the people I have a problem with, not the rank and file.
And they said, this is an easy case, this is a horrific situation.
We'll put them away for the rest of his life, Ryder recalled.
That's what the U.S. Attorney, assistant U.S. Attorney, told us as well.
But Ryder's renewed enthusiasm didn't last long.
In time, it became clear that the federal probe was stalling, though he believes the FBI agents were invested in the case.
Ryder arranged to meet face to face with the prosecutor in charge of the case.
U.S. Attorney, Alex, I have no spine, bitch ass Acosta.
Acosta would go on to be named U.S. Labor Secretary under President Donald Trump, another brilliant move by old Trumpi, huh?
I mean, you don't have this conversation with them.
And then even if you do, you still go through with it.
There's not a better person in the whole entire country that could have been Labor Secretary, huh?
But I have to say this, I'm thankful that Trump in a weird way put him there.
Because if Alex Acosta wasn't in this position and there weren't a bit of politicism happening around this,
we probably would have never had the second arrest of Epstein, because would Julie Brown really been as interested?
If this didn't have the political bend to it, if it wasn't a Trump appointee, again, maybe.
I don't know, we can't tell one way or the other, the future was what it was.
But I have a funny feeling that if it wasn't for Trump appointing Alex Acosta as Labor Secretary,
in a weird way, we would have never been at the point we are now.
The conversation writer said did not get off to a promising start.
He basically said in a very measured manner that the defense in the case has successfully delayed and frustrated their investigation
and their prosecution of the case, writer said.
So once the last time the federal government has been frustrated and had their case delayed, zero chance.
It doesn't happen unless they wanted to happen.
But writer left Acosta's office hoping for the best.
After the prosecutor told him they were moving forward with the investigation.
I left that meeting thinking, this guy hopefully is going to do his job, writer said.
It didn't turn out the way writer had hoped.
In 2007, Acosta made the decision not to charge Epstein in federal court.
Instead, he sent the case back to the local prosecutors.
Now again, I don't think this was Acosta on his own.
You can't make this decision as a mid-level bureaucrat.
This was a decision that was made on high and Acosta was just the trigger man.
Writer was crushed.
The same office that seemingly refused to pursue Epstein aggressively was now back in charge.
Again, you could say, oh, this is a coincidence.
It's just, you know, the way things happen sometimes.
But there sure are a lot of coincidences around Jeffrey Epstein, isn't there?
The cameras, the missing emails, all of this nonsense.
At what point is it not coincidence?
And is it just what it is?
Acosta agreed to sign a non-prosecution deal that ended the federal sex crimes investigation
and spared Epstein the prospect of serving several years in prison.
Instead, Epstein pleaded guilty to state charges for soliciting a minor for prostitution
and served 13 months at Palm Beach County jail.
Epstein was also required to register as a sex offender and pay his restitution to his survivors.
Eh, didn't have to register in New Mexico, huh?
I've never seen anything like it, writer said.
It was extremely unusual and disappointing.
Writer said he believes the result would have been different had the victims been underage boys.
That would have shocked the senses more, writer said.
Somehow, this hits in a different place that they were young women on the way to being women.
And he's not really wrong about that.
How many people have set these girls up as prostitutes or why do they keep coming back?
The brain-dead narrative that they wanted this to happen.
You know, the same folks, I will say, oh, well, she was wearing a mini skirt, so...
Way more nuanced than that.
When you have all of the different things that went in to grooming these girls and normalizing all of this,
it's a whole different ball game.
But he's not wrong.
Boys would have really shocked the emotions and shocked the senses.
Epstein was released from jail in the summer of 2009.
The case scene behind him until 2018, when the Miami Herald published an expose
highlighting the government's kid glove treating of a man accused of praying on dozens of underage girls.
Acosta defended the way his office handled what he described as a complicated case.
We believe we proceeded appropriately.
Acosta said during a July 2019 press conference.
We did what we did because we wanted to see Epstein go to jail.
So you mean to tell me the federal government couldn't have done that?
If you really wanted to...
And again, let me back up.
You want to want to see him go to jail.
We want to see him go to prison, okay?
And you not running the federal charges.
You and your bosses taking the step back.
That made sure that Epstein was never going to federal prison.
But Acosta resigned as li...
Oh, excuse me.
Acosta defended the way his office handled what he described as a complicated case.
We believed we proceeded appropriately.
Acosta said during a July 2019 press conference,
we did what we did because we wanted to see Epstein go to jail.
But Acosta resigned as labor secretary two days later amid mounting criticism.
Cresher, the former state attorney, didn't return her request for comment from MDC News.
But he relates to statement in July defending his office
and pushing back against Acosta suggesting that state prosecutors were driving the case.
Nobody wants to take responsibility ever, right?
It's always somebody else's fault.
It's always someone else who did something wrong.
In reality, the feds fucked up and the state fucked up.
If Mr. Acosta was truly concerned with the state's case
and felt he had to rescue the matter,
he would have moved forward with the 53-page indictment that his own office once drafted.
Cresher said,
Epstein was arrested on fresh charges in July.
New York federal prosecutors charged him with sex trafficking
and conspiracy in a case that featured similar allegations to those a decade earlier.
Never far enough, right?
How, again, how isn't this Rico considering not what I said to you
but what Michael Ryder laid out to you just previously in this article?
Epstein pleaded not guilty,
but he committed suicide in his federal jail cell last month.
The death left Ryder thinking about the survivors
and their lost chance to see him held accountable.
I feel so badly for the survivor's Ryder said,
I realize that there's a catharsis in confronting Epstein
and they'll never have that opportunity.
But he hopes that the entirety of the case will lead to systemic change.
The criminal justice system needs to learn from this
and make sure it can't happen again, said Ryder,
who still lives in Palm Beach where he runs a security consulting firm.
Ryder wants to see legislation that bars minors
from being labeled as prostitutes in the justice system.
He also called on Florida lawmakers to close loopholes
that allow people like Epstein to get away
with misdemeanors for child sex crimes.
I mean, is he wrong?
Does a cop, a former cop have to call for this?
Why wouldn't our politicians, the ones who make the laws,
do it themselves?
Oh, they're the ones who put this law on the books.
Oh, that's right.
If you look at the first dozen victims
and their accounts of what happened to them,
it's clear to me he was coached by a lawyer
on how to only commit a misdemeanor, Ryder, said,
if you're a member of the legislature
and you're listening to this right now, fix this.
It needs to be fixed.
And I'm guessing that lawyer, I don't have proof of this
but I'm guessing it was Darren Indyke.
Ryder also delivered a message to all of those girls
whose lives were upended by a middle-aged sexual predator
with endless resources available to him.
I don't have any contact with the survivors.
And if they're listening now, I'm embarrassed
for the way the criminal justice system treated them back then
in Florida, Ryder said.
But I want them to know that not every part of the system
felled them.
We did our job in Palm Beach.
And at the Palm Beach Police Department
and everything that happens here should lead to
in the future, if any of these things happen again
to some other victim that the system won't fell them.
And I'd like to believe that, but man,
I have a hard time believing it, folks.
I am very cynical about our justice system,
as you all know.
And the more I see, the more cynical I become.
So while I hope that Michael Ryder's plea
will find its way to the ears of our legislators,
for some reason, I still have my doubts.
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