Mega Edition: The Epstein Survivors And Their Secondary Role In Their Own Story (9/13/26)

0:00What's up everyone and welcome to another episode of the Epstein Chronicles. What we're witnessing right now with the partial release of the Epstein files is not confusion, incompetence, or bureaucratic delay. What it is is a deliberate act of institutional defiance dressed up as process. Anyone who's followed this case with even a baseline level of seriousness understands that immediately. Survivors are not acting emotionally in a vacuum, they're responding to years of manipulation, delay, and outright deception by powerful institutions that have never been forced to tell the truth. Their disgust is not surprising in the slightest. It's rational, earned, and grounded and lived experience. In fact, it's long overdue. For years, Epstein's survivors were told to be patient and trust the system. They were told to wait to believe that justice simply takes time. There were promised transparency after Epstein's death, there were promised accountability after Glaine Maxwell's conviction,

1:01there were promised reform after congressional hearings and public outrage made in action politically inconvenient, and yet here we are again staring at a half-measure, masquerading as compliance. The pattern is unmistakable and impossible to ignore. Delay until exhaustion, released just enough to blunt pressure, then wait for public attention to drift elsewhere. But what makes this moment different and what clearly is terrifying these institutions involved is that Congress passed a law compelling disclosure. It's not a discretionary request or a suggestion, this is not a voluntary act of goodwill or transparency theater. It is a legal mandate enacted through the democratic process. When the executive branch responds to that mandate with a partial release, it's not merely disappointing, it's defying. And that distinction matters more than anything else happening right now. The fines of the law by those tasked with enforcing it is the core issue. If an ordinary citizen ignored a law passed by Congress, consequences would be

2:02immediate and severe. Miss a tax filing deadline and see how forgiving the system suddenly becomes. Felt to comply with the subpoena and watch how fast enforcement shows up at your door. The rules are enforced swiftly and without mercy when power is absent, but when power is concentrated, the rules suddenly become flexible, they become negotiable, slow-walked, and selectively applied. That disparity is not theoretical, it's visible in real time. This double standard is exactly what survivors are calling out. I promise you that they're not confused about what's happening. They're not misreading intent or jumping to conclusions, they understand the system because they have lived inside its failures for decades. Every delay, every redaction, and every ongoing review excuse fits a pattern they know intimately. That pattern has a name, and it's called a cover-up, and calling it what it is a cover-up is not hyperbole or rhetorical excess. It's a factual description of conduct. When information is legally required to

3:03be released and is instead withheld, redacted, or selectively disclosed, that is obstruction by another name. When institutions coordinate to minimize exposure rather than maximize the truth, and temp becomes clear. You don't need league memos to see it, you don't need whistleblowers to spell it out. The behavior speaks loudly enough on its own. And what I think in rage is survivor's most is not just the withholding of documents, it's the insult embedded in the decision to do so. They're being told implicitly that they should accept less than the law guarantees them. They're being told that their suffering does not outweigh institutional inconvenience. They're being told that accountability must be rationed carefully to protect powerful interests. That message is in subtle, it's unmistakable, and it's impossible to accept. The people that are defending this partial release, well, they often hide behind procedural language. They talk about national security or privacy concerns and administrative burden.

4:04These arguments collapse under even minimal scrutiny. Epstein was repeatedly described by the government itself as a lone predator with no intelligence role. If that narrative were true, there would be no justification for extraordinary secrecy. You can't have it both ways. The contradiction is glaring and it's intentional. You can't claim that Epstein was insignificant while treating his records as radioactive. You can't claim the system worked while refusing to show how it worked. You can't demand trust while actively withholding the evidence required to earn it. Survivors see this contradiction clearly, so do journalists that are worth their weight, and advocates, and anyone paying attention in good faith. The Nile at this stage is not skepticism, it's complicity. Those who are actively fighting against the cover-up label need to ask themselves, why they're doing so. Are they protecting institutions instead of people? Are they protecting reputations rather than the truth? Are they protecting their own proximity to power and access?

5:05Because I'll tell you what, it's certainly not about protecting survivors. Survivors are telling us plainly what it feels like and what it represents. Ignoring them is not neutrality at this point. It's a choice. The idea that survivors can be bullied into silence at this stage is not just wrong, it's delusional. These are individuals who have already survived the worst imaginable abuses of power. They have endured public smearing, legal stonewalling, and institutional betrayal. They've watched their abuser receive protection at every level of the system. They saw as a accomplice, get moved to a lower-level camp. They didn't come this far to retreat now, and anyone who believes otherwise fundamentally misunderstands who they're dealing with. What has emerged is not a fleeting spike of outrage. It's a hardened organized movement. Survivors are no longer asking politely for transparency, they're demanding compliance with the law. They're supported by real journalists, advocates, and citizens who have learned to recognize institutional deception when they see it.

6:07And I promise you, this coalition is not going away. It's built on lived experience, not social media momentum. And I'll tell you what, in my opinion, the Department of Justice has miscalculated badly. By offering a partial release after a legal mandate, it's transformed the political problem into a legal and moral crisis. It's signaled that even congressional authority can be slow-woked when exposure is inconvenient. Am I friends? That's not just an Epstein problem. That's a democracy problem. Survivors understand the stakes better than anyone involved. Now, historically, the DOJ has relied on process as a shield. It invokes complexity, classification, and process to exhaust critics and outlast scrutiny. But that strategy only works when there is no statutory obligation forcing disclosure. This time that shield is cracked. The law removes plausible deniability, what remains is choice, and the choice being made is visible to everyone watching, and the choice being made right now

7:10is unmistakable. Partial disclosure over full transparency, institutional protection over survivor justice, damage control over accountability, and these choices are not abstract. They're being observed, documented, and recorded in real time. They're not going to vanish with the news cycle. They're going to follow the institutions that made them. And the pressure is not only justified at this moment. It's necessary. Legal mandates don't enforce themselves, and history shows that institutions only comply fully when resistance becomes more costly than compliance. Survivors understand this instinctively. They know that silence is what allowed Epstein to operate for decades. Noise is the only counterweight that has ever worked. The demand being made is simple and non-negotiable. Release all the files, not summaries, not curated selections, not redacted to the point of meaningless PDFs. Full disclosure, exactly is required by law. Anything less is an admission that the system is still protecting itself.

8:14The survivors are not asking for favors. They're demanding compliance. But the Trump administration and the DOJ know that the blowback will be severe, and that is precisely why resistance is so fierce. There are names, institutions, and failures embedded in those files that powerful people would prefer remain buried. That discomfort is not a reason to withhold the truth. It's the reason the truth must come out. Accountability is not supposed to be comfortable. It never has been. And let's be very clear, survivors are not asking for a avenge. They're asking for reality. They're asking for the full record of what was done, who enabled it, and how it was allowed to continue. That's not radical or unreasonable. That's the minimum standard of justice in a functioning society. Anything less is dearer, and I promise you that these survivors are done being props. And look, this moment is going to be remembered as a test. A test of whether the law applies equally or selectively. A test of whether a survivor

9:15voices matter when they threaten institutional stability. A test of whether transparency is real, or merely rhetorical. The DOJ doesn't get to read to find the terms of that test. The law already did that. And look, the Gauntlet has been thrown, and it was thrown by the government itself. It was thrown the moment partial compliance was chosen over full obedience to the law. Survivors didn't escalate this confrontation. Institutions did. Now the response is inevitable. This is not going away. It's not fading, and it's not negotiable. There is only one acceptable outcome for release of the Epstein files. Full acknowledgement of the institutional failure, full confrontation with the consequences. Anything else confirms what survivors have set all along. The cover up never ended. It simply changed tactics. The time for half steps, stalling tactics, and bureaucratic sleight of hand is over. There is no procedural off-ramp left that does not end in full disclosure. Every delay from this

10:16point forward only sharpens the indictment against the institutions that are involved. The law has spoken. The survivors have spoken, and the public is finally paying attention. This is not a moment the DOJ can outweigh or spin its way through. History has shown that when truth is suppressed long enough, the reckoning is far worse. Choosing transparency now is not an act of courage, but refusing it is an act of cowardice. The consequences of continued obstruction will not be limited to this case alone. They will stain the credibility of the system for generations. So let this be the line in the sand. The Epstein files must be released in full, without games, without excuses, and without insultingly thin rationalizations. Survivors are no longer asking for justice and theory, they're demanding it in practice. The institutions that failed them once do not get to fail them again quietly. This fight is not about politics, personality, or optics. It's about whether the law means

11:16what it says. If the DOJ wants this chapter to end, there is only one way to end it. Compliance is not optional, and accountability is not negotiable. Release everything, face the consequences, and let the truth land where it may. Anything else is confirmation that the cover-up is always the point. All of the information that goes with this episode can be found in the description box. What's up everyone and welcome to another episode of the Epstein Chronicles. Now that the Epstein Transparency Act has been passed into law, we're now seeing the trend of the courts falling in line to make sure that they're in compliance with the new law. And while that certainly is step in the right direction, it's only one part of the issue, because even though this is law now, do we really think the DOJ is going to do the right thing and release all these files unredacted the way they should or are they going to play games? My guess is they're going to play games, and that's why I've been calling for a special investigator or a special counsel to take over and do the investigation. We can't trust the powers

12:22at B, the powers at B are the reason we're in the situation that we're in. If we could trust them, we wouldn't have this conversation, right? They would have released all this information a long time ago, but it's never about being transparent because the second they decide to become transparent, they're going to lose the narrative, and they know if they lose the narrative, the whole entire thing is going to blow up in their face. So that's why they're fighting tooth and nail to make sure that this narrative doesn't become something that they can't contain or control. And one of their most effective tools is to designate people as crazy. You know, they'll come out with their push, legacy media, talking heads, whatever, and call things a conspiracy theory, say nothing ever happened, and the whole idea is to make the people talking about it look like they're crazy, so nobody believes it. But this time, that's not going to work, and that's because there's too much that has become public already. So when you have that much information, that's already in the public domain, it's very difficult for them to put that horse back in the barn.

13:22So now it becomes a battle to make sure that they're not, you know, sanitizing things to a point where it's criminal. And I don't say that lightly, right? That's not an allegation to throw around if you don't think it's true. And I most certainly think it's true. Does anyone really trust this DOJ to do the right thing? And I don't just mean under this administration, I'm talking about for years and years now. And this shit here just puts a spotlight on how crooked and how broken things are. So in my opinion, there needs to be a special investigator or a special council or somebody that is neutral from this whole thing that is overseeing it. Because if anyone thinks the justice department wants to tell us the truth, they're crazy. Today's article is from CBS News and headline Epstein survivors and Senate Democrats ask for an audit to determine if Epstein files have been tampered with. This article was authored by Scott McFarlane. Survivors of Jeffrey Epstein, sex crimes and a group of Democratic members of

14:24Congress are asking for an independent review of the Epstein case files to determine whether any of the records have been tampered with or concealed ahead of the release of those files by next week. And of course, they'll be pushed back, right? Oh, it's a big hoax. It's a Democratic plot. And look, I'm not going to sit here and tell you that the Democrats aren't out of pocket with a lot of the shit they do. They are. And a lot of the nonsense they get up to is hurtful to the country and the overall discourse. But when it comes to this, they're right. They're 100% on point. How can we trust anything that's going on? We've had Trump say that the Democrats sanitize the paperwork. And now the Democrats are worried that Trump sanitized it. So how do we meet in the middle? We get an independent investigator to take a look at all of it. That's what we do. And that person should have full power to subpoena and refer for criminal charges. Because in my opinion, that's the only way we're going to get a proper look at what's going on here.

15:25In a letter Thursday to the Justice Department, Inspector General, Democrats on the Senate Judiciary Committee asked the internal watchdog to undertake a formal review to check for any chain of custody problems with the Epstein files. Well, that's where they screwed up. The Inspector General, the same one that ran that shitty report about Epstein's death, and about the NPA, that same Inspector General's office. See, this is what I'm talking about. It's a circular investigation. If the Democrats meant business, they'd be talking about an independent investigator, not some knucklehead from the Inspector General's office who has no power to do shit. Speaking with CBS News, representatives of some of Epstein survivors have also called for a third party review to check if any of the record has been scrubbed, softened, or quietly removed before the public sees it. Under a federal law signed by President Trump last month, the Trump administration's required to release virtually all files on the government's investigation

16:26into Epstein by December 19 deadline with minimal redactions. Oh, I am sure that that's what's going to happen. I mean, I am just positive that we're going to get this with minimum redactions. Said fucking nobody ever. This is going to be so redacted that it's going to look like just a block of black text and the things that aren't going to be redacted. My guess is, are things that we've seen already? Three federal judges have also issued rulings this month to unseal grand jury records in the criminal investigation into Epstein and his convicted co-conspirator, Glaine Maxwell, well, at least they called her the right thing here. At least they said she's a convicted co-conspirator. Instead of associate or friend or girlfriend, like what? Tell me you have no idea what you're talking about without telling me. It's like the morons who still refer to her as a socialite. The rulings have opened the door for large batches of investigative material to be publicly released by the administration for the first time. Well, considering we have the

17:29great truth seeker, Pound Bondi in office and Cash Patel, I'm sure we're going to be fine, right? They're the most transparent people in history. I mean, just ask them. They'll tell you they are the most transparent people to ever sit in those chairs to ever hold those offices to ever walk the earth. And anybody asking for Epstein files and anybody demanding more transparency is just hostile, right? You're just an enemy of the state. Maybe they'll drone strike you next, just like they're doing in the Caribbean. Maybe that's the next step. Ask questions about Epstein at 8 and a Reaper drones blowing your house up at 9. The impending release follows months of pressure from both parties for the Trump administration to disclose more information on the government's Epstein probes. The financier, pedophile, pleaded guilty to state charges in Florida in the 2000s and was charged with child sex trafficking in 2019, but died by suicide allegedly and federal custody while awaiting trial. The OCBS news won't believe a thing that the administration says,

18:30but they're sure that Jeffrey Epstein committed suicide. Say what now? Thursday's letter from Senate Democrats, including Senator Adam Schiff of California, pointed to allegations that attorney general, Pam Bondi, and FBI director, Cash Patel, ordered a massive review of the Epstein-related records, which resulted in around 1000 FBI personnel working 24 hour shifts and required personnel to identify any mention of President Trump. So that's what my tax dollars are being used for. That's cool. Nothing like making sure we sanitize the documents to protect the president. Nothing says America first like protecting your own ass. To reassure the American public that any files released have not been tampered with or concealed, the chain of custody forms associated with records and evidence in the Epstein files must be accounted for, analyzed, and released. The request read, The allegations that federal workers looked for mentions of Mr. Trump was initially leveled over the summer by the Senate Judiciary Committee's Vice Chair Democratic Senator Dick Durbin,

19:35who cited information his office had received. Durbin was one of the signatories of Thursday's letter. The New York Times later reported that the FBI looked for references to Mr. Trump and other high profile people. But that means is people that are paying the bills, donors to Trump, friends of Trump, people that have been big supporters of intelligence, whatever it might be. Those are the people that are going to be protected. They don't care about the survivors, they don't care about anybody but themselves and the institution and the sooner folks realize that the better off everyone's going to be. The Justice Department did not immediately respond to requests for comment. The Inspector General's Office did not comment to CBS News and generally does not speak about its communication with Congress. In other words, no oversight, they get to do whatever they want and we're supposed to trust them. Sorry, I don't trust them. There's a reason going through those stupid SOIG reports and the reason is so you all know that you've been bullshitted.

20:36Unlike everybody else, I'm not just coming here talking shit. I like to come with receipts. I'm like I always tell you I only talk about the shit I can prove or think I can prove. Not the shit I know. If I talked about the shit I know, I'd sound like one of these crazies because that's how crazy this story is. Spencer Coven, a civil attorney who has represented a group of Epstein survivors has also raised concerns about the trustworthiness of the records that are set to be released. Coven told CBS News, there should absolutely be concern about the chain of custody of the Epstein files. Those records have passed through too many hands, behind too many closed doors, for anyone to simply assume they're intact, unaltered, or complete. Coven said, survivors have endured decades of secrecy, broken promises, and institutional protection of powerful men. They should not now be asked to trust a process with no independent verification, and is he wrong? Is he wrong about any of that? Not in my opinion. I think that all of that's true. How can anyone trust the process? You keep telling people to

21:40trust the process and then you keep screwing them. So why would anyone believe anything that the DOJ has to say about Epstein? The Senate Judiciary Committee Democrats are asking for the inspector general to audit the handling of the case files and publicly release results of the audit by January 19th. Shifts letter to the inspector general said the group would like answers to several questions, including how many individuals have obtained custody over the materials ahead of the release. In July, the Justice Department moved to one seal grand jury material in the Epstein Maxwell investigation, but those initial bids were denied because federal rules required grand jury proceedings and evidence to be kept secret. However, after the passage of the Epstein Files Transparency Act, the Justice Department argued that the law should override grand jury secrecy rules. Well, yeah, that's the law, right? Not really that difficult. There's a new law on the books. We have to follow the law. And it doesn't mean that every set of grand jury documents from here on

22:41out is going to be released. It's the specific documents because there is cause. There is a great public interest in what went down. So when that outweighs the secrecy clause, you're going to get the documents, especially when you have the new law on the books. That certainly gives them the inroads they needed. And that's why we're at the point where we're at. But previously, they weren't going to release these files. And the Trump administration knew that. So that's why they were going after the grand jury documents, instead of going after regular documents in their own possession already. But what this does is cut down the bullshit, right? Now they can't rely on the courts to gum it up. So we'll see which way it all goes. And like usual, we'll be here every step of the way. All of the information that goes with this episode can be found in the description box. What's up, everyone? And welcome to another episode of the Epstein Chronicles. Imagine this. The Department of Justice standing at a crossroads with one path leading towards

23:41truth and the other towards convenience. If they were serious about justice in the Epstein and Maxwell crimes, they wouldn't have sat Golan Maxwell down for a sanitized, fire-side friendly deposition where the questions were as hollow as he answers. Instead, they would have turned the microphones toward the survivors, the women and girls who were preyed upon, silenced and abandoned by the various institutions, sworn to protect them. Now, these survivors are in just footnotes in some court record. They're the beating heart of this whole entire story, the living proof of what was allowed to happen in plain sight. Yet once again, their pain was pushed aside, their voices drowned out by the home of deal-making and procedural pageantry. That choice, the choice to elevate the comfort of the accused over the cries of the violated, reveals the justice system more concerned with appearances than with accountability. Survivors shouldn't have to fight for scraps or recognition while the perpetrators of their

24:44abuse are granted the dignity of negotiation. Justice doesn't come from whispered conversations behind closed doors. It comes from placing the truth front and center no matter how uncomfortable it makes those in power. Now the DOJ had a chance to show the world that no one is above the law. That the survivors mattered more than the criminals who destroyed them. Instead, they showed us what many already suspected, that the system bends for the powerful, even when the powerful, are monsters. The truth is the survivors have already been silenced for years by manipulation and by institutions that looked the other way. Every time they were dismissed, ignored or disbelieved, Epstein and Maxwell grew stronger. And when the moment finally came for accountability, what did the DOJ do? They sat across from Maxwell, like she was some kind of business partner, negotiating terms instead of exposing crimes. They gave her legitimacy when she deserved nothing but condemnation. That image,

25:51a convicted trafficker being treated as though her cooperation was more valuable than the testimony of survivors sends a chilling message to every victim who still wonders if speaking up is worth the cost. It tells them the system doesn't really want you. It wants to manage you. It wants your silence when it's inconvenient and your pain only when it's marketable. And that's the sickness at the core of all of this, because true justice is inconvenient. It's not polite, and it's not negotiated over conference tables. True justice forces us to face the ugliest parts of who we are and what we've allowed. It demands that we look the survivors in the eye hear their stories without flinching and honor their courage by refusing to let their abusers dictate the terms of accountability. And so we're left here once again in the familiar shadow of betrayal. Survivors pushed to the background, the accused treated with deference and the DOJ,

26:52congratulating itself for going through the motions. But the motions are not enough, not now, not ever. Because what hangs in the balance isn't just a legacy of Epstein and Maxwell, it's the credibility of the various institutions that claim to protect us. If the Department of Justice cannot or will not center the survivors, then it's failing at its most basic duty to pursue justice without fear or favor. Until that changes, all we're left with is theater masquerading as accountability, while the real voices, the voices of the broken, the silence, the forgotten, are forced to keep screaming into the void. Today's article is from the Guardian and the headline. No outreach to Epstein victims, despite Trump's vow to investigate, lawyers say. This article was authored by Victoria, the campus. For more than six months, Donald Trump and his justice department have insisted they would get to the bottom of Jeffrey

27:56Epstein's crimes, but nine attorneys who have represented approximately 50 Epstein survivors told the Guardian they have not been recently contacted by the justice department. Now, if you were really doing an investigation, right, wouldn't you be contacting the people that are making the claims? We all know no victim, no crime, right? So it's very important, obviously, to speak with the victims who are claiming that they were wronged. But instead, we have a fire aside chat with Glaine Maxwell for what purpose? Now, look, I'm all ears if you have some good reasons as to why anyone should be sitting down with Glaine Maxwell. Never mind the deputy attorney general. There is literally no logical explanation for it. Unless, of course, you're looking at it through the lens of a cover up, then yeah, it looks like a logical thing to do, right? Keep Glaine Maxwell happy, make sure she's not making any waves and tell her just buy your time. When my terms up, I'm a lame

28:59duck and I'll give you that pardon. Now, look, I don't know if that's the conversation that's been had, but it's the optics, right? And that's all we have to go off of. And that's because once again, we're not getting any transparency from the administration. The revelation cast out on the effort by the Trump administration to fully investigate Epstein's crimes and activities and reveal everything that the government knows about him. It comes as Trump faces intense political pressure, including from his own base over his socialized Epstein, who was famed for courting rich and powerful figures into a circle. There has still been no outreach from the DOJ or members of Congress to me seeking to interview my clients said top civil attorney Gloria Allred, who has represented 27 Epstein survivors. And I saw some talk on social media from people talking about Gloria Allred, and look, I've been very public with how I feel about Gloria Allred and her daughter, Lisa Bloom.

30:00I do not like them. What does that mean that the people who are claiming that they were abused are lying? I mean, come on, what kind of ridiculous nonsense is that? You have to look at each story for what it is and take the merits of that story for what they are. Each one of these claims is unique. This isn't just a gigantic monolith where one claim means everyone's telling the truth or one claim means everyone's lying. So like I've told you folks from the very beginning, don't trust this one. Don't trust that one. Follow the evidence wherever the evidence goes. Lisa Bloom, who has represented 11 Epstein survivors, said no, I haven't heard anything. As usual, the survivors are being ignored in the political battle. And that's really what it comes down to. That's what this is now. It's a political football and it's getting kicked back and forth. Meanwhile, nothing's being accomplished, right? No movement, no real investigations. We have names out there already. And I'm not talking about people that are just accused of enabling.

31:04What about the people that have been accused of abuse itself? We're talking about Glenn Dubin. We're talking about Les Wexner. We're talking about George Mitchell. We're talking about Bill Richardson. We're talking about Marvin Minsky. I mean, come on folks. Everybody talks about they want a list. They want this. They want that. They want the other thing. But the names that are already out there. Nobody has any desire to do anything about that. So is it that you want names or is it that you want names of people that you think you can use this as a political cudgel against? And obviously, there's a whole lot of that going on right now. And the more that this is politicized, the less it humanizes the people who are affected the most. Spencer Coven, the chief legal officer of Gold Law, similarly said, there had not been outreach by law enforcement officials or Congress. The House Oversight Committee has issued subpoenas regarding Epstein and met with some victims earlier this week. The panel did release a tranche of documents. The Justice Department provided, pursuing a subpoena, but virtually none

32:06contained new information. And that's certainly a roadblock that we have faced time and time again. Recycled information, being dropped, and then them telling us that it's new. I have heard nothing from the DOJ and they have provided me no updates to give to my clients. I have even sent letters to the committee chair, volunteering to speak with them about the original investigation and litigation. This letter was completely ignored. Coven said, it's appalling that the federal government is again failing to keep the victims at the center of this investigation. Instead, it appears that all the government is interested in is attempting to whitewash the prior investigation. And that's really what it comes down to to me. They know how embarrassing this is all going to be, and they just can't have it. So they're going to fight tooth and nail to make sure you never know what really happened. And if that doesn't enrage you, I don't know what will. Jennifer Freeman, special counsel at Marshlaw firm who represents the Epstein survivor Maria Farmer and her suit

33:07against the federal government, condemned this apparent lack of outreach, noting the lengthy talk between the deputy attorney general Todd Blanche and the convicted sex trafficker, Golan Maxwell. It's atrocious that the DOJ ignored or dismissed the survivors of Epstein and Maxwell for decades. And that recently the seconding command spent two days coddling a known sex abuser, Golan Maxwell. And asking her soft powder puff questions instead of conducting a true and proper investigation, Freeman said, and look, there's no doubt about that. I don't know how you could look at those transcripts read through them and not come away thinking that the fix is in. And I said it from the start with Elaine Maxwell and the DOJ. They're doing themselves the disservice by involving her in any capacity. And once we got a look at those transcripts, that was certainly the case. Not only has the DOJ refused to engage survivors, but they obstructed routine and valid requests

34:07for information. In January of 2025, in response to a basic Freedom of Information Act request, the government informed us that they would respond by November 2027 nearly three years later. That's abysmal and completely unacceptable. Well, yeah, it sure is. I mean, can you imagine? The government trying to kick the can down the road like this time and time again? Anything they can do to run out the clock? Attorney Jack Skoroly said, my last contact with the DOJ was during the Maxwell trial. Well, I was representing Carolyn and Rihanna in her capacity as a principal DOJ witness. And Rihanna died of a drug overdose in May of 2023. Another attorney simply said, word from the DOJ. The lack of outreach flies in the face of numerous public commitments by Trump and others in his administration to fully and transparently investigate Epstein.

35:07This Department of Justice is following through on President Trump's commitment to transparency and lifting the veil on disgusting actions of Jeffrey Epstein and his co-conspirators. The US Attorney General Pamela Bondi said in February, as are released some of the Epstein documents, the first phase of files released today sheds light on Epstein's extensive network and begins to provide the public with long overdue accountability. And then that just all stops, right? And we're supposed to accept the narrative that they give us? Stop it. Would you accept it if it was the Biden administration pumping that shit to you? You know, you wouldn't. So demand the same ass accountability here. As it turned out, this February dissemination of files set the stage for a controversy that continues to Royal Trump's presidency. These Epstein documents largely contained information that had already been in the public domain. The disclosure did not include purported Epstein client list that has long proved the white whale of right-wing conspiracy theorists who believe it

36:13would show that Epstein plotted with high profile individuals to traffic teen girls. Now think about that for a minute. What kind of moron actually believes that? Do you really think that there's some list here that they kept about their operation and all the people involved? If you were really serious about finding that out, you'd be demanding bank transfers. You'd be demanding all the information from the NPA. But instead, we just continue to go around circles here, like a dog chasing its tail. Now that might be fun for some people, intent DOJ, but for the rest of us, it's time consuming, it's disgusting, and it needs to end. In July, Bondi announced that her department and the FBI would not be releasing more files and claim that a client list did not exist, stoking still more uproar. Then came the reporting that Bondi informed Trump that his name had appeared multiple times in the Epstein files, dealing yet another political blow to the US president.

37:15None of that's new. We all knew that he was one of the John Does in the Epstein files. I believe it was John Doe 174. So this is nothing new. Donald Trump knew this too. So the question is what happened between then and now that changed things that made Donald Trump bash his own base has to be something pretty serious, right? Not the kind of mistake that you would expect Donald Trump to make. Say what you will about the guy, but he's a political animal. Guy knows what he's doing, politically speaking. So this is a gigantic gaff. And one of his own making for sure. The Justice Department's apparent damage control efforts were extensive. They requested the release of Grand Jury transcripts in Epstein's criminal cases, as well as Maxwell's proceeding. Legal experts said the Grand Jury transcripts would contain little revelatory information. The requests were ultimately denied. Well, yeah, they wouldn't give you anything. Just another waste of time. Blanche interviewed Maxwell, who had helped Epstein commit his crimes in late July. Maxwell was then

38:21moved to a low security prison camp shortly thereafter in furiating victims. And the rest of the world who has a brain in their head. The Justice Department released transcripts of Maxwell's interview on August 22nd, but the minutes refused to quell demand for information. As Blanche questions didn't seem probing on key issues, especially as it related to Trump or those close to him. Well, that's ridiculous. It should have been about co-conspirators, really, right? It should have been about, you know, Sarah Kellen, Vickers. It should have been about Leslie Groff. It should have been about Jean-Luc Brinnell, all the movers and shakers. That should have been the core of it because there are still people out there that were hands-on involved that have gone away with this. So isn't that what the meeting should have been about? Hey, Golan, what about the people working under you? He didn't ask her once about Sarah Kellen, Vickers. He didn't ask her once about, you know, Leslie Groff. None of them. Now the name was brought up, but there was no probing.

39:21There was no digging for deeper answers. Instead, what we had was a whitewash. But still, there was a lack of outreach to victims that appears to stand in contrast with traditional investigatory methods. Attorney said that engaging with survivors was integral to criminal investigations of sexual offenders and those who commit other serious crimes. Well, yeah, if somebody's saying that there was a crime committed, probably a good idea to talk to them, right? I know, call me crazy, but I think it's a better idea to talk to the people who were actually wronged, then to sit down for a fireside chat with their abuser. If law enforcement was seriously investigating some criminal activity, it seems like the first call that they should make is to the victims and or the victims attorneys. Said Eric Fattis, a trial attorney and founder of the Denver firm, Varner Fattis, who previously worked as a prosecutor. You're getting information from the source, from someone who was present and has first-hand

40:22knowledge and probably has a wealth of information, most of which is likely not public, and some of which may not have been disclosed to anyone at all yet. Speaking with survivors, rather than limiting inquiries to an accomplice or accomplices, helps better Fatt finding he said. I mean, really, we need to be told that. If you don't know that, I don't know what to tell you. An accomplice can talk about statements that the alleged culprit made to which a victim may not have been privy, but I think the reciprocal is true. That a victim can talk about firsthand knowledge, whereas sometimes when an accomplice relays information, that information can be colored or biased or conveyed within pure motivations. Like to help out the accomplices themselves, Fattis said. The victims, they likely don't have any incentive to fabricate information to their benefit, at least not in the way that an accomplice who's sitting in a prison cell does. Well, that's true too. Now, of course, you can talk about financial motivation,

41:22and there are people out there that try and benefit from shit like this all the time. I'm not naive. I know that. And that's why I say we have to look at each allegation on its own merits. This is not a monolithic type of deal. Lindsay M. Goldbrun, a partner at New York City, firm Goddard Law said that a survivor-centered approach was key. As an attorney for survivors in other high-profile cases, proactive trauma-informed outreach from law enforcement is critical. When survivors and their counsel are in contact, it can chill participation and undermine confidence in the process. Goldbrun said, I can't speak to the specifics of the Epstein Maxwell investigation, but as a matter of practice, engagement matters. The Justice Department said no comment in an email when asked about victim outreach. Yeah, they call it a hoax. What do they care? They're not going to investigate a hoax, right? Why should they? Epstein survivors have

42:23continued to push for transparency and justice outside the Justice Department. Several survivors on Wednesday, boy support, of a bipartisan resolution to release all Epstein files. Survivors have also taken legal action against the U.S. government for federal law enforcement agencies failure to take action against Epstein 20 years ago. Jennifer Plotkin and Jordan Mercine of Mercine law, which represents 33 survivors, are pursuing a civil suit over federal law enforcement authorities in action toward allegations against Epstein when survivors started coming forward 20 years ago. Trump's Department of Justice is pushed to dismiss the lawsuit. The FBI refuses to accept accountability and continues to fight the dozens of Epstein victims that we represent. Why is the FBI fighting these women when it acknowledged responsibility to the Larry Nasser victims? Plotkin said, the government says it wants to move on and forward, yet it continues to be adversarial instead of sympathetic. And unfortunately, I don't see that change in too much.

43:27That's just how it goes. They have no desire in true justice because if they did, this whole entire song and dance wouldn't be a song and dance, and instead it would be an investigation. But instead, once again, we're left with political theater. All right folks, that's going to do it for this one. All of the information that goes with this episode can be found in the description box.