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What's up everyone and welcome back to the Epstein Chronicles this episode
We're gonna pick up where we left off with this sarah rantsum deposition
manager
Who is redacted rantsum? She was an acquaintance that I met in New York
Manager, where did you meet her? Ransom? I think I met her at a bar or something
Ransom manager was she a friend of yours during this time period?
Ransom she wasn't acquaintance. I would say friend is yeah. I wouldn't say friend. I'd say acquaintance
Manager so on this occasion where you met Galaine on the island and you spoke to her about massage
Did you ever have any other sexual type interactions with her?
McCauley I didn't hear the end of that. Did you say him?
Manager repeats it sexual type of interactions with her
Ransom with her
Manager Galaine, Ransom. No, Manager and do you recall if she flew with you back on the plane?
Ransom I can't remember
Manager what's the next time you went to the island? Ransom again. I don't remember specifically
I went various several times during the durations
So I remember there was a it was several times. I can't remember the next time I went to the island. I mean it's
To this she's interrupted by manager. Was it before you went back to South Africa to visit? Ransom yes
Manager all the visits to the island were before that McCauley objection
Ransom yes, Manager
What's the next time you remember meeting Galaine? Ransom. I met her at the office in New York
Manager. What's the office? Ransom jeffery's office the main office
Manager. Where is that? Ransom. I don't remember the location. It's central
It's got a courtyard like when you walk in there is like a courtyard
Manager. What were you doing at jeffery's office in New York? Ransom
We were preparing for my college application
Jeffrey often wanted to see just how I was doing
So I had regularly pop-ins to see him and Galaine and Galaine would often check how I was doing and blah blah blah
Manager what were you doing to prepare for your college application? Ransom. I had to write an essay
Manager when did you ransom also? I had to do like you know how to apply for college applications
You've got your application forms and such so it was more admin
Manager and you are going to jeffery's office to work on your forms? Ransom yes
And to just say hi, I was well
I never went on my own accord. I was either invited or told to be there by either Galaine or jeffery
I also went to the offices on a number of occasions for a private legal matter
Manager. What's the private legal matter?
Gurg is objection. I'm going to direct you to not answer if it's unrelated to this case
Manager was there an attorney present? Ransom yes, manager. What was the name of the attorney who was present?
Ransom Alan Dershowitz
Manager so I was asking about the second time you met Galaine. It was at jeffery's office in New York
Ransom yes, manager. How did you come to be in jeffery's office in New York where you met Galaine the second time?
Ransom I was told to be there
Manager and who told you to be there? Ransom I think it was Galaine
Manager how did Galaine tell you to be there? Ransom I can't remember if it was via telephone call
I can't remember the exact communication that you used but I was told to regularly be there
When they wanted me there and just grabbed a taxi and arrived at the office
Manager well, I'm asking you about the second time
So you met her on the island and the next thing you know you have communication from her in New York
Ransom well she was always with jeffery in his office so it's like okay, let me just explain it a bit
So you go to an office and you see jeffery's office there and Galaine
Galaine was always at jeffery's office so I think she had her own office there
So when you walk in and you've met people before you kind of say hi to everyone you know you have a little chitchat
Do you understand you don't you don't you know I chatted with Galaine I chatted with jeffery
It was a super busy office. I can't remember specifically
What was said it was just a check-in kind of
Manager so you were going there to work on your college application and you happen to see Galaine in the offices
McCauley objection
Ransom she you know she participated in the you know a lot she was interested in me
I was you know she had interacted with me
Manager I know I'm trying to understand when you did this when was it
Ransom it was the second time the first time I went to the office the first time you went to the office the second time you met
Galaine
Ransom yes, manager and
When was it relative to the first time that you met Galaine
Ransom I can't remember if it was a couple of weeks later
I don't remember the exact time frame of how many days or weeks there was between the first trip and then
When I went into the office
Manager, but you recall going into the office to work on your college application
McCauley objection
Ransom yes, well I went in a number of times to the office so like we regularly had to report the jeffery in the office
It was a we recalled all the time there
Manager, what do you mean you had to report there?
Ransom well jeffery like to check in with all of us
Manager
How was it communicated to you that you needed to report to the office
Ransom jeffery I was just told to be there I had to be there ransom
Manager who told you that ransom jeffery and Galaine
Manager anyone else ransom redacted redacted and redacted
Manager how did they communicate to you?
Ransom by telephone call
Manager to your cell phone ransom and blackberry which they provided me
Manager so you did not have a blackberry before you met jeffery
Ransom no manager then you got a blackberry when you were
Ransom interrupts her that's correct
Then manager interrupts her acquainted with them and what happened with the phone you had before
Ransom it got lost through translation
I have moved several times through the years so
Manager so you got messages or phone calls
Ransom bbms phone calls text messages all the emails that they have sent me
I think you guys have there wasn't a lot of email correspondence
the majority of it was done by phone call
Manager did you have any emails with Galaine?
Ransom no no email correspondence with Galaine
Manager did you have her phone number?
Ransom I did at the time yeah
Manager do you remember what it was?
Ransom no manager do you remember what your number was?
Ransom no
Gurgis objection asked and answered
Manager tell me about any conversation to you have with Galaine
That involved fit Gurgis objection to form
Ransom I can't remember the specific conversation
There were many conversations
I was just applying doing an application form
And they were trying to get me in
They yeah I can't remember the exact I think Galaine
Also new people there so they were basically trying to get me into fit
Manager well tell me what you recall Galaine saying versus they
Ransom I can't remember specifically the conversation
So I would not like to speculate
But I will give you the overall conversation
And what it was regarding as far as my fit application
But I cannot remember the specific content
Or the specific words used
But it was surrounding my fit application
And an essay I had to write
And they both proofread my fit application as well
Manager and did they both read your essay?
Ransom yes they did
Manager when did you write that essay?
Ransom I can't remember
Manager before you went to South Africa
Ransom yes manager
And do you know what the application deadline was?
Ransom I don't know I don't I can't remember
Manager when did you meet Alan Dershowitz?
Ransom I don't remember the specific date
It was a few months after I had been here in New York
Manager was it after you had gone to the island?
Ransom yes manager
Do you know what time of year?
Ransom I mean I think it was before winter
Manager well you were here in the fall
Ransom yeah manager
And you left in the winter?
Ransom yeah I left in May
Manager so did you meet him before?
You went to South Africa?
Ransom yes manager
Well let's be clear
You were here until you went to South Africa
And you left for a while and then you came back
Right?
Ransom mm-hmm
Manager
And how long were you gone for?
Ransom I think about three weeks yeah about three weeks
Manager so you met him before you went to South Africa
Ransom yes manager and tell me about when you met Alan
Ransom I first met Alan at the offices
Manager and tell me what happened
Ransom I can't really tell you what happened because it's about a legal matter
Manager
Was he your lawyer?
Ransom he was going to be assigned to me to be my lawyer
Manager assigned to be your lawyer
Ransom through Jeffries instruction
Manager
Okay was he your lawyer?
McCauley objection asked and answered
Manager I don't know if there's privilege
Gurgus there's a privilege whether he was retained or not right?
I mean if you're at a cocktail party and you speak to a lawyer
you know that conversation is privileged so
Manager well I don't actually
Gurgus you're free to research it
Manager I will ask questions then to try to establish whether or not
there is a good faith basis
Manager did you approach Alan Dershowitz for the purpose of seeking legal advice?
Ransom I was introduced to Alan
Manager by whom?
Ransom Jeffrey Epstein
Manager on what day?
Ransom I don't recall what day
Manager was it related to some event that had occurred just before that?
Ransom yes that's correct
Manager were you in touch with any law enforcement authorities?
Ransom no manager?
Huh?
Ransom no
Manager was Jeffrey in the room when you were speaking with Alan Dershowitz?
Ransom yes
Manager did Jeffrey Epstein ever overhear your conversation with Alan Dershowitz?
Ransom yes
Manager what did you talk about with Alan Dershowitz?
Gurgus objection
Ransom begins to answer but Gurgus objects again
I direct the witness not to answer
Manager a third party was in the room
you've heard that council and you know that means that that's a waiver
McCauley no I mean they would have been involved
we don't know what the situation is they could have been involved together
there could be a number of reasons why Jeffrey had some sort of common interest with her with that
Manager did you sign a common interest agreement with Jeffrey?
Gurgus objection do not answer
Manager whether she had a common interest agreement with Jeffrey
you're instructing her not to answer is that right council?
Gurgus do you have real time in front of you council?
Manager I don't Gurgus you don't you can borrow mine
Manager I don't want it thank you Gurgus
okay
Manager anyone else in the room when you spoke with Mr. Dershowitz?
Ransom no manager describe Mr. Dershowitz for me
Ransom he old age white pasty skin not very attractive
wears glasses bit of an ugly man really
Manager did he have any facial hair?
Ransom I can't recall at the time no
Manager mustache Ransom I can't remember
Manager beard Ransom I can't remember
Manager you can't remember if he had a mustache or a beard
Gurgus objection asked and answered
McCauley objection Ransom I don't recall seeing a massage
sorry a mustache on Alan Dershowitz
I don't recall a massive amount of facial hair
I recall Alan Dershowitz whether he had a subtle amount
I'm not sure um yeah it's he didn't have a beard I don't think
Manager all right did you sign an affidavit that you submitted in this case?
Ransom yes manager did you make the allegation in your declaration
that you had a sexual relationship with Alan Dershowitz?
Ransom yes I absolutely did
Manager when did you have sex with Alan Dershowitz?
Ransom I can't remember the exact time but it was in Jeffrey Epstein's
New York apartment Manager wearing the apartment
Ransom it was in a bathroom I can't remember
Manager was it before or after you had this conversation that you won't describe
Ransom it was after Manager so do you recall what month
that was before you went to South Africa or after you went to South Africa?
Ransom I can't remember Manager how long did you speak to Alan Dershowitz
during your first meeting with him?
Ransom until I was finished explaining what my legal matter was
Manager did he believe you to be?
Did he believe that he was your lawyer during that conversation?
Gurgus objection, McCauley objection, Pottenger please,
Pagliuca alright guys you know let's just do the deposition here without the chorus over there
Gurgus and without the speeches as well we agree let's carry on without asking ridiculous questions
about what other people's mental state was I think that's a good idea let's carry on
Council Manager did you ever sign a fee agreement with Alan Dershowitz?
Ransom no, Manager did you ever appear in court with Alan Dershowitz?
Ransom no, Manager did you ever appear in court yourself?
Ransom no, Manager did you ever have any contact with any law enforcement officers while you were
in New York? Ransom no, Manager any police? Ransom no, Manager after you left that meeting with
Alan Dershowitz when did you see him next? Ransom I can't remember I think it was at dinner
there was a dinner yeah, Manager and do you know whether the dinner was before or after you
went to South Africa? Ransom I can't remember the specific time period so I don't remember if it
was before or if it was after but it was to this she's interrupted by Manager where was the
dinner? Ransom it was in a restaurant in New York? Manager what restaurant? Ransom I can't remember
Manager who else was there? Ransom I remember Alan Jeffrey myself I can't remember if others
if there were other people there? Manager what type of restaurant was it?
Ransom it was an iced restaurant. Manager do you remember the type of cuisine?
Ransom no, Manager what do you remember discussing at dinner? Ransom the legal matter that I had?
Manager did you consider him to be your lawyer at that dinner?
Ransom yes I did. Manager what's the next time you saw Alan Dershowitz? Ransom at Jeffrey Epstein's
New York mansion? Manager when was that? Ransom after the second time I had met Alan. Manager had
you been to South Africa? Ransom I can't remember. Manager tell me what happened during that encounter
Ransom I walked in the room I walked in the house Jeffrey and redacted and Alan were there
Manager what happened after you walked into the house? Ransom I it was really strange because
redacted didn't like me and so when I arrived we had I think I can't remember if I had like water
or whatever redacted took me upstairs I remember there was a room I didn't quite understand what
was going on at the time I knew obviously something was going on because I've never met redacted
socially so redacted started on dressing me in the room she started on dressing me by the bed
and we got on the bed I kind of knew what was going on from that the girls were often forced
to have sex with each other for Jeffrey's pleasure so it was just another occasion I guess
Jeffrey then walked in the room he started masturbating under his clothes he put his hand in his
trousers a few minutes later Alan walked in the room he started on dressing he got on the bed
with redacted myself and we basically had a three-way sexual interaction manager was Alan fully
clothed Ransom during when at what specific he walked in with with clothes manager and he got
fully undressed Ransom yes manager so you saw his entire naked body Ransom yes manager
did you notice anything specific about his body Ransom not that I recall I mean yeah not that I
I can't really remember it was quite a it was a it wasn't a pleasant experience manager
what did you do with Alan Ransom I gave him moral sex and masturbated him manager anything else
Ransom he did the same with redacted he performed the same on me manager did he ejaculate Ransom he
did yeah manager in your mouth Ransom no manager did you have intercourse with him Ransom no
not penetration no manager did you see him ejaculate more than once Ransom no I didn't see him
ejaculate more than once manager you didn't notice any scars McCauley objection Ransom I don't recall
specific markings on every man I've been with body so it's not something I wasn't ravishing
Alan's body I was trying to close my eyes and just get it done so I could go home and watch TV
so I really wasn't aware I don't really like kind of go whoo his body I don't I don't recall
his body at all like I don't make a mental note of every man's body I've slept with
manager other than Jeffrey is that the first time you had sex with another man in his home
or on his property Ransom sorry can you just repeat the question Gurgis or phrase it
Ransom I'll just read it Gurgis if you understand it Ransom yeah he was the only person
Alan Dershowitz manager did you have sex with him more than once Ransom no manager at the occasion
you just described did he have an erection Ransom it was it was it wasn't particularly hard
it was pretty disappointing manager and where did he ejaculate Ransom I had given him oral sex
and well he ejaculated he ejaculated I mean there's only so many places a man can ejaculate
he didn't ejaculate on me he didn't ejaculate my mouth I gave him oral and I masturbated him
and finished him off he ejaculated over himself me just there wasn't a lot of ejaculation I don't
remember a lot of sperm I didn't see massive amounts of semen but I just remember him ejaculating
but it wasn't in my mouth manager and in terms of time frame the best you can say is that it was
after you had been to the island a few times Ransom that's correct manager and you don't
remember if it was before or after you went to South Africa Ransom I can't remember specifically
no manager did you see Alan Dershowitz again after that occasion Ransom no manager so you saw him
at the office you say you saw him at dinner and you you say you saw him one time in the bedroom
at Jeffrey's house Ransom that's correct manager it's one o'clock I think we should take a small
lunch break how anyone can even talk about eating lunch after we just heard about Alan Gross
as Dershowitz ejaculating is beyond me but here we are so we're going to take a break as well
that way we can all go throw up and then we'll pick up where we left off in the next episode
all of the information that goes with this episode can be found in the description box
what's up everyone and welcome back to the Epstein Chronicles in this episode we're going to
pick up where we left off with the Sarah Ransom deposition and in that last episode we left off
with Sarah Ransom talking about Alan Dershowitz so let's get back to it Gurgis council before you
commence with your questioning I think there's one issue from this morning that the witness wants
to correct yourself on so just let her do that now Ransom I said earlier that I would just like
to correct that my lawyers are paying for they are covering my hotel expenses manager thank you
for the clarification Ransom and she's cut off by Mr. Gurgis go ahead Ransom and my flight
manager thank you now back to the questioning manager going back to your first conversation
with Alan Dershowitz at any point in that conversation had Mr. Dershowitz agreed to act as your
lawyer Ransom yes manager did he do anything in terms of contacting anyone on your behalf
Gurgis objection do not answer manager what was the specific legal matter that you were seeking
representation for McCauley objection Gurgis objection do not answer manager what did you
understand the purpose of Jeffrey Epstein being in that room for jarring that conversation
Ransom Jeffrey was there to support me and Jeffrey was looking after me manager when you engage
in sexual conduct with Alan Dershowitz did you see any evidence on his body of his surgical
procedure Ransom I don't recall seeing anything I can't remember manager did you see any bandages
Ransom I can't remember manager did you see him bleed through his penis Ransom not that I recall
manager do you recall seeing Mr. Dershowitz bleed through his penis
Miss McCauley objection asked and answered Ransom not that I recall manager when you were on the
island sometimes less than ten times you think did you ever use any drugs Ransom no manager did
you use cocaine Ransom no manager did you ever get thrown off the island for using cocaine
Ransom no manager did you drink alcohol Ransom no manager none Ransom jarring on the island whenever
I was around Jeffrey absolutely not manager other than going to the island did you travel anywhere
else with Jeffrey Ransom no manager did you ever travel anywhere with Galaine Maxwell
Ransom no manager did you ever fly on an airplane with Galaine Maxwell Ransom I don't I don't
remember manager you don't remember any time you flew on a plane with Galaine Maxwell Ransom no I
don't remember there were always many people on the plane manager when you refer to the plane
you're referring to a private plane Ransom Jeffries plane yes manager did you travel on more than one
plane of Jeffries Ransom not that I know I don't remember I don't remember manager can you visualize
in your head any other layout of a different type of plane than the one you drew in defendants
exhibit number one Ransom no manager why did you go to South Africa in early 2007 Ransom to visit
my family manager and which family members did you visit Ransom my father and my stepmother
manager anyone else Ransom no manager any siblings Ransom my younger brother and my sister
live with my parents my dad my stepmom and their two younger children manager did you see any
school friends there Ransom no manager who paid for your plane ticket to go to South Africa Ransom
Jeffrey did manager how did that come about Ransom I wanted to see my family and he funded the
plane ticket because he was funding everything else at that time manager what else was he funding
at that time Ransom accommodation travel taxis food my prescription that I had to pay for
for the prescription that prescription drugs manager had you taken any prescriptions for mental
health disorders before October 2006 Ransom no manager have you taken any since may of 2007
Ransom yes I have manager which ones Ransom peroxetine
manager anything else McCauley I'm going to object there's no time frame on this you're talking
about one year all the years from 2007 to 2015 which I would say is inappropriate for a non-party
witness to talk about her if you're talking generally about prescriptions then this whole
next section is completely redacted the next section completely redacted next section completely
redacted back to Ransom I had been prescribed were incorrect manager those are the ones you mentioned
earlier in your testimony Ransom yeah I had to stop and change medication because I was first
started on lithium and the lithium made me put on weight at quite a rapid rate so I was put on
so many different types of medication because I didn't not everyone agrees with you weight was a
massive issue for Galaine and Jeffrey so the lithium just didn't work for me I mean I put on weight
quite quickly manager what did Galaine Maxwell say to you about weight Ransom well what did she
not say she bullied me massively about my weight manager what did she say Ransom I was told that
I would lose Jeffrey's financing if I didn't lose weight and I would not they would not help me
get into fit manager who were you told that by Ransom Galaine and Jeffrey manager in the same
conversation Ransom various conversations manager tell me your conversations with Galaine when did
she say that to you Ransom on the island manager before you went to South Africa Ransom yes
manager and was that in person Ransom yes manager who else was present Ransom redacted redacted
redacted and redacted a girl named redacted and a girl named redacted sorry I just remembered a
name a girl named redacted and a girl named redacted manager so they were all present when you had a
discussion with Galaine about your weight on the island Ransom yes manager and what did Galaine say
to you about your weight when you were on the island in front of all those people Ransom I can't
remember the specific conversation how it went we got into an argument about my weight quite a heated
argument manager what do you recall about the argument Ransom I recall it got so heated
that I ran off and tried to swim off the island I wanted to get as far away from Jeffrey and Galaine
as possible manager okay and then what happened Ransom I left the main house I took there's like a
buggy thing it was evening I drove to a particular spot on the island it was so Jeffrey's island is
quite rocky around the edges so and it's not really you can't just go into the water it was quite
steep and well I didn't really know how to swim anyway I didn't know how to escape but I wanted to
at that precise moment get as far away from him as possible manager so you had a heated argument
about your weight with Galaine Ransom Galaine and Jeffrey manager they were both there Ransom yes
manager and do you remember anything that was said during that argument Ransom it was basically
an ultimatum that I either lose weight or or that's it Ransom sorry can I sorry I need to get a
headache tablet if you don't mind manager go off the record for a second so they go off the record
real quick they have some discussions that were held off the record then they're back on manager
go back on manager you are given an ultimatum to lose weight or what Ransom they wouldn't help me get
into fit and that my time with Jeffrey would be over it would end manager who said that Ransom well
they both they both said it in not so many words I can't remember the exact conversation I remember
it being heated I remember them giving me the ultimatum I think a few curse words were shared
I can't it was very heated I can't remember the exact words
manager was redacted there Ransom no I don't recall her being there
manager were you taking the medication that you talked about earlier during this time period
Ransom yes manager had you put on weight since taking those medications
Ransom yes I had and I had also put on weight because I wasn't allowed to smoke any cigarettes at all
with Jeffrey on the island or anywhere near Jeffrey Jeffrey wasn't allowed to know that we smoked
so I put on also a lot of weight as well in conjuncture with the lithium so yeah
manager how did the topic of your weight come up Ransom well I wasn't as skinny as the other
girls and Jeffrey liked his girls very thin manager were you interested in modeling at that point
in time Ransom I was doing freelance modeling at the time but I mean I wasn't exactly going to be
Kate Moss and the modeling agency thought I wasn't petite enough for them either I would like to
clarify that I wasn't actually fat I was a normal weight by the way just to make that clear um 64
65 kilograms at that time manager what did you understand that Jeffrey and Galen wanted you to
lose weight Ransom I was one of the girls that Jeffrey had sexual encounters with regularly
he liked his girls thin manager did you ask Jeffrey to help you become a model
Ransom no I wanted to get a degree and an education
manager so you were not attempting to become a model at this point in time Ransom no I wanted to
get an education as opposed to being a model manager did you talk to redacted and redacted
about becoming a model Ransom I as I was freelancing during that time or trying to get freelancing
work Jeffrey kept us on a little string with his massage payments so I wanted to earn a
separate income while I was doing my education to fund my living expenses so you know I wanted
to potentially increase my jobs but no my job was not to be a high fashion model I wanted to get my
degree get my education and work in the fashion industry manager you had worked as a model during
college earlier correct Ransom yes manager and you saved up money from that job correct Ransom yes
manager and you had used that money to fly to New York at some point correct Ransom yes manager
and what you're saying now is you would also potentially do modeling while you were studying in
the future mr. Gurgis objection that's not at all what she's saying Ransom as in future as in would
I do modeling now manager no I'll replace the question Ransom please manager let's take a break go
off the record and when you finish the salad will proceed they get back on the record and manager
starts with the questions once again at the time you were having a discussion with Jeffrey and
Galen about your weight when you were on the island did you have any intention of being a model at
that time Ransom I was a freelance model I wanted to increase my workload to help fund my living
expenses so it was not my intention to be a full-time model because I quite clearly applied to a
college to get an education that I was promised by Jeffrey Epstein manager between January of 2007
and today have you worked as a model Ransom no manager when you left for South Africa did you
have a ticket to return to the US Ransom at that time or return ticket hadn't been booked by
Jeffrey yet manager you traveled to South Africa to visit your family without a return ticket
Ransom yes manager did anyone travel with you to South Africa Ransom no manager your mother was not
in South Africa when you went to South Africa on that occasion in 2007 correct Ransom correct
manager what did you do while you're in South Africa in February of 2007 Ransom spend time on my
family manager did you visit any modeling agencies Ransom yes I did visit some modeling agencies
manager which modeling agencies did you visit Ransom I can't remember the exact names the modeling
agencies were on Long Street in Cape Town I visited several modeling agencies on Long Street
and Brie Street as well Brie Street and Long Street and a few others in Central Cape Town so I
visited a few actually manager had you worked with any of those modeling agencies in the past
Ransom no manager did you have any connection with any of those modeling agencies Ransom no
manager what did you do when you visited the modeling agencies in Cape Town in February of 2007
Ransom I was requested to look for a PA for Mr. Epstein manager what does that mean Ransom it means
that he told me he would pay me a certain amount of money to find him a PA in South Africa manager
what do you understand the initials PA to stand for Ransom personal assistant manager what are
the job requirements of a personal assistant Ransom to book flights type do faxes basically a PA is
your a CEO's right hand man of you know companies anything business-wise they do everything really
for that person manager when did Jeffrey ask you to find him a PA while in South Africa Ransom before
I went manager did you agree to do that Ransom yes manager and you did go to the modeling agencies
Ransom I told Jeffrey I did but actually I went to a couple and then I just it wasn't right my
gut instinct was yeah manager what happened when you went inside the modeling agency in Cape Town
Ransom I was humiliated I was completely embarrassed I couldn't even ask them what Jeffrey was
wanting I mean it was so absolutely ridiculous his request of me finding him a PA manager so what
happened Ransom so I asked if they had any girls that would want to travel that they would be put
up in accommodation and they would be a PA and when I actually spoke to the modeling agencies they
actually laughed at me because it was quite ridiculous that a young 22 year old was asking a modeling
agency for an 18 year old PA for a multi billionaire who had several already manager so you recall
a conversation where the person you were speaking to started laughing Ransom yes manager what type of
person were you describing that you were looking for Ransom the same specifications that Jeffrey told
me she had to be 18 thin very young looking and pretty manager anything else Ransom well bright
and be able to type manager did you go on a diet while you were in South Africa Ransom I was forced
to go on a diet manager tell me what you mean forced to go on a diet Ransom after that incident on
the island in it was December when Golan brought me back to the main house after she she sent a
search party she let a search party to find me on the island and bring me back manager Golan let
a search party Ransom yeah yeah she got everyone together and they all went looking for me when I
disappeared manager who went looking for you Ransom redacted redacted Jeffrey the girls Golan
manager which girls Ransom redacted and redacted the girl name redacted Ransom did Jeffrey go
searching for you Ransom yes manager how do you know that Ransom I was told manager about whom
Ransom by redacted and the other girls manager where were you located Ransom on the island
manager where on the island Ransom a corner of the island manager on the water Ransom
no it was quite a long drop off it was like a cliff type I wasn't able to jump to get in the water
manager your intent was to swim off the island but you didn't make it into the water
Ransom no because I would have killed myself so it wasn't safe
manager so who located you on this corner of the island Ransom I can't remember who got to me first
I remember I can't remember who found me first manager do you remember anyone who found you
Ransom yes I definitely found because I didn't have enough time to find a different location
on the island so I could get off and swim away from Jeffrey and Golan
manager once they found you what happened Ransom I was brought back to the main house
manager how were you brought back Ransom the same way that I got there on the like beach buggy black
4x4 not what are they quad things McCauley quad bikes Ransom quad bikes yeah
manager did you bike back Ransom yes manager accompanied by some people Ransom I was accompanied
back yes manager by whom Ransom I can't remember specifically who it was all right folks
we're gonna wrap this part up here and then the next episode will pick up where we left off
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The True Crime Tapes
