Minten & Buium Get PAID! Plus: Brock Seguin with a Fantasy Hockey Preview

0:00Welcome into another edition of daily face off live streaming live on the daily face off YouTube. Of course, where else would we be streaming? As always, we're brought to you by Beth 365, download the app today, Tyler, I'm sure Carter, hot and with you 20 days away from the start of the NHL season huts, but does it feel like hockey season? That's the question. I saw some leaves turning and I know that's how you introduced me last year, right? You found a hockey card in the leaves that I was going to join the show. So maybe that's making me start to feel that way, but it comes on quick here. It's exciting. There's still a lot of stuff to break down. I think team signing guys, what's going to happen with interesting moves, but it's starting to feel like hockey season for me. Time. I'm not ready for it, but it's common, whether I like it or not. If if it doesn't feel like hockey season for you watching or listening to this as a podcast, go to our YouTube and check out our countdown to hockey series every second day from September

1:041st until the beginning of the season. We're dropping a new kind of four to six minute video to get you ready for all the big storylines heading into this season and another big thing for people, something that usually gets them in the mood, thinking, ah, it's finally hockey season. It's your annual fantasy hockey draft with all your buddies and to help you out a little bit with that rock. Segen is going to join the show in just over 10 minutes. So if you have any questions, fantasy hockey questions for our guy Brock, you can drop those into the YouTube chat whenever and we'll toss a few his way towards the end of that segment. But let's kick off the show with some breaking news from Elliott Breedman Huts. The Anaheim ducks are placing Chris Criter on waivers for the purpose of a mutual contract termination. Criter had one more year on his deal with a $6.5 million tap hit. Now one financial aspect of this is that Criter, after getting a signing bonus on July 1st, is only do $4 million for the upcoming season. But that still means Chris Criter is walking away from $4 million with this decision, Friedman and an article on SportsNet,

2:07saying that Criter has expressed a desire to return East and go play closer to his family. Again, he spent the bulk of his career with the New York Rangers and he has apparently said that if a team out West or some team he doesn't want to go to where to claim him, he will simply say, thanks, but no thanks. I'm not reporting to camp. So Criter wants to head out East. It's not very often like again, he'll get some money. He'll get a one year deal somewhere. But it's not very often that you see a player walk away from $4 million Huts. Yeah, I know it. It's a big tag to walk away from ReadyScore 22 last year. He had 50 points. He's still a big piece in a locker room. He can fit in. And I would assume before this happened, him and his agent had done their due diligence, right? There was probably conversations that went on with other teams and where they saw him slaughtered if he was to go and find a spot. And I understand that too. A guy like that who's made enough money in his career to walk away from the foreman or hit you, take your signing bonus for really to your living in California. It's tax. It goes down. For him, there's that optimization of where he wants to play and what he wants to do.

3:11And on the other side of this is more importantly, what does this do for the Anaheim ducks now, right? They've been talking about trying to get money off the books, the cutter gochay issue, where this goes on. And I think for the Anaheim ducks and their future and the guys that they see in it, they needed to make this move. And Chris Crider was a guy who wasn't going to be that impact player anymore for them. He helped in the culture building, the leadership role he was in. And he's not a horrible player by any means. I think he lands on his feet somewhere, Ty. 22 goals and 50 points last season is nothing to laugh at. He scored at least 20 goals in one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight seasons. He scored at a 20 goal pace, basically every year of his 13 year NHL career. He's 42 games away from a thousand. Some team out east will absolutely pick him up. And to your point, yeah, $4 million after you tax it in California, when you've already made $66 million in your career, pretty easy to see how a guy can maybe be convinced to go, you know what? Yeah, I'll lose out on one and a half, two million bucks this year as much as that sounds like a lot of money to me. Maybe not to you fancy NHLers.

4:12But to me, that's not good. But when you've not 66 million in the bank, it makes it a little bit easier to make that decision. Hots, I'm good at giving the numbers breakdown. So let me do that because everyone's starting to think and point the finger of, well, this must mean a cut or gochie contract is imminent. The Anaheim ducks right now have nine point zero seven million dollars in cap space with 12 forward seven defensemen and three goalies on their roster. If they were to send the rhombus law down to the miners, which he would obviously clear waivers, that frees up 1.1 million. And then this Chris Criter move is going to free up 6.5 million dollars. So with Criter and Ember Swah off the roster, that's 7.6. You add that to the 9.07. We're talking about, you know, over 16 and a half million dollars, which you would assume is going to be enough to get a cut or gochie deal done, right? Like if the ducks offer him a four or five year deal at 16 point, whatever million, he'd be insane to not take that. No, I think you'd have to take it too, right? And again, I think he's dragging his heels in the sand. And I know we talked about the numbers where he wants

5:14to be, but that's a pretty big number to be in that conversation. And just to have that security, going into a year where we've seen some younger guys take deals and I know we're going to get to that, but like to have that guaranteed money knowing the cap is going to go up and you're going to be in a good situation after you play out that career and you're just basing this off of the one big season that 40 goals. And he's a player, right? And they want to build around him. You, you're going to be in a good situation to him. I think that's something the public has to understand as a player. If you're getting put in a situation where they want you to succeed, it's much better than being in a situation where maybe you fall down the wayside and you're not loved as much. I think that's an important fact here for Goche first growth in what his career earnings are going to be when he gets to Chris Eider, Eider's agent, he's happy that he has that money in the bank. Yeah. For the ducks, this is to me another reason to be pretty concerned about their season coming up. They took a big step forward. Last year, they beat the oilers in the first round of the playoffs. They're a team that was supposed to be kind of on the up and up. And now you look at things and you know, their blue line got worse. They lost Truba. They lost Goudus. They replaced them with Nick

6:19Jensen, but you look at that group they have on the blue line and you kind of raise an eye around go is that good enough to be a playoff team? And obviously last year, Luke is Dostal took on a very heavy workload. I wonder about who so being a good enough backup if Dostal were to slip. And then you look at the forward group and their big ad was AJ Greer at $4.2 million. AJ Greer is scored more than 10 goals like once in a season. I think it was last year like they bought AJ Greer at the peak of his value outside of that. You're now looking at a forward group that lost Mason McTavish and lost a 50 point guy and Chris Criter. Like it's not a team that's better than they were last season. At all. No, it's not. It's dropped down. And again, I think that's that Florida panther effect with AJ Greer, right? You're buying a guy who has the titles who's been a winner, but you got to overpay to get him. And again, I don't think he's a difference maker. He's a bottom six guy that can fill a role. And yes, there's a ton of value there. But at $4.25 is a lot of money to play in that role when you get other teams that are doing it for like a million, million five. And now Anaheim has the factor of the Pacific is getting better, right? There's teams that are going to be pushing. And

7:22now you're in a big question mark, are you just going to be too hot pop heavy with Carlisans contract with Goche if he get that deal done? And then I'm with you on the back end. Like I know Goudus and I know Truba, their aging Carlisan was there. Those are three really solid NHL defense. When you look down to their bottom, you talk about their second and third pairings, there's a lot of question marks. I think Jackson, Lakoma's an absolute stud. And I think that's a great contract. But thanks Pat, great timing here. I worry about that whole right side. I think more played very well in the playoffs. Jensen is obviously age, but there's a lot of question marks and I think this Anaheim ducks team and going into that added pressure to the goal tending. And again, I think Lucas Stostell has been very good. He's been very busy for years. Is it sustainable? And there's a lot of question marks Anaheim now, Ty. They were playing Ian Moore as a forward in that first round series against Yemen and Overseen now. They might be trusting him with second pairing minutes. Like that's insane. Anyways, we'll move off of that. We're all waiting for the Kutter Goche extension to eventually drop. I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if it's basically in the hopper and done. But one signing that did happen over the last week.

8:25There's a couple of them that are pretty interesting. One of which is Frazier Minton and the Boston Bruins agreeing to terms on a seven by seven point two million dollar deal. Minton in his first full season in the NHL registered 17 goals, 18 assists, 82 points. Did a lot of that scoring at five on five, which is always something I like to look at when you look at young players, complete center, can play the wing. He's got some size. He was a second round pick of the Maple Leafs that they picked up a couple seasons ago in the branding Carlo deal with all that being said. This is another kind of flashing light of like this is the new age NHL, a guy who's played one full season in the league and put up under half a point per game is getting seven point two million dollars per year over 50 million dollars guaranteed on a long term deal. Yeah, and I think that's what we're seeing here, right? I think this is a factor of the Bruins see him as a guy that can be a top two center for most of this contract. And again, if he becomes a 55 65 point player and a matchup player that's responsible and plays well, because Sweeney has talked about that, then this deal looks unbelievable at seven point two as he plays into that contract. But it's a gamble, right? I think

9:29that is the biggest question mark here. We're seeing now in this new age of trying to get ahead of it just like we talked about the Anaheim ducts is if we can get ahead of these deals like the Montreal Canadians are feeling that sense right now, they have all these long term deals at good numbers. We're signing on that potential. I think for Frazier, Minton, he's obviously showed that. And the way I think of it is, is in an organization like Boston who is so cultured and so important to the way they play, who had a Patrice Bergeron and had to play the game the right way. This is obviously something that they feel. This isn't like an uncalculated decision, but at the end of the day, his growth on the rick is going to really play a factor here. So I'll say I don't love it just because it's a lot of, well, if he turns into this guy, if he turns into this guy and listen, it's one season with 35 points. Like yeah, if he becomes a 50 plus points second line center, you can trust in all these different spots. That's awesome. And this is also just the cost now of if you want to take a chance and turn a guy into a value deal, like you have to take some risk. So I get it to an extent from Boston's perspective. I just think

10:30it's a touch to rich for what he's shown so far at the NHL level. On the flip side, I'll say that I really like the other long term deal that was given out to a kid in the eight year deal that Zeev Boulium got with the Vancouver Connox and AAV that pushes north of $9 million. So I'm it'll be 9.38 million to be exact. The 20 year old in his first NHL season last year put up 26 points in 76 games splitting between the Vancouver Connox and the Minnesota wild. He was of course a part of that Queen Hughes trade earlier in the season. And what I like about it is that he showed a lot of promise at a super young age like his 20 year old season. If you go back and look at the Queen Hughes's and the kale McCars and the Evan Bouschard's Bouschard wasn't in the NHL at 20. McCarr wasn't in the NHL yet at 20. He was still playing in college. Queen Hughes, when he was 20, he put up eight goals, 45 points, 53 or eight goals, 45 assists, 53 points in 68 games with 25 of those points coming on the power play. And you look at Boulium, I think with a bit of a better power

11:32play around it with more power play time, you're going to see those offensive numbers shoot up. And here's the big difference for me, Hudson, when I compare the Connox giving Boulium this deal and the Lee are in the Bruins giving Frazier mitten that deal. Like if mitten turns into a two C who's putting up 55 points, that's like a fair contract for him. Like his ceiling is a lot closer to what that seven point to is if Boulium becomes anywhere close to one of the top, you know, 15 top 10 offensive defense in the league, which I think a lot of people would recognize that he certainly could be this contract is going to be a bargain and the other difference. Boston's a contender right now. This is a gamble that takes away, you know, cap space and them from it takes away their ability to add to their current team. I look at Vancouver and I go, yeah, take this chance on Boulium, because you're going to suck for the next four years. What else do you need the money for? Like, why not see if this can turn into a bargain four years? So now when you're hopefully contending for a cup. Yeah, I think that's a really good perspective of the fact is like where teams are at in the contract negotiations where if he continually grows and you're we're talking about it pretty young

12:36player who's had some accolades in the career, right? 89 points in the NCAA, a championship, two world junior gold medals, a world champion. Like he's done well. He's played right into it. And then the other factor that I would want to add is the fact that he's part of the Quinn Hughes trade, too. So this is like an important thing for him to be a player that can replace the future to save face and not the fact that Ryan Johnson made those trades. But I think also Ryan Johnson as a general manager is acknowledging the fact that they're going to be aggressive with him. They're going to get ahead of it because September 16th is coming. That's the date where eight years goes off the table. And right now you're able to get that eighth year in and drive that number down. I think this is a great signing and this is a kid that is an absolute horse when it comes to cardio, when it comes to minutes, when it comes to what he can play. There is a lot of high potential there. And even if these slots in not as high as you think, I think this is still a great signing as you move forward with the connox and the rebuild going on. So you mentioned something really important there because people might be raising an eyebrow going, Hey, eight years,

13:39I thought we were done with that. We got about a week left until eight year deals are going to be off the table. So is there a player around the league that you're looking at and going like, Hey, I think this is a guy who's primed for an eight year deal and should be trying to get one done or the team should be trying to get one done before that deadline. Yeah. So I actually had a chance. I was in Winnipeg this weekend with my son for hockey and I met his old man and then it started thinking about how good he has done. It's it's Denver, Hey, Chuck and Columbus, Bluejack and what he's been able to do in his career so far with them. And last year, having 31 points, 13 goals. This is a big factor here. And he's on his third year of an entry level contract and something you're going to get to as well when we go here is these are the guys that you want to get ahead of. We're talking about the demon that are going to pull big numbers. He's never had a big payday to which I think is the carrot kind of that you can hang in front of him to be like, we can still get you under eight years. Put that number in the seven to nine range. This is a really big ticket potential for him to grow into it. This is the guy that I think has potential to grow. And I think Columbus is going to be on him to try to get this deal done

14:40before that date. So there's a couple of reasons why I like this as your pick. First off, he had a great season last year. Like people might look at 13 points and be like, you know, that's not all that impressive. He doesn't play on the power play because that Zach Werencky's job when you look at five on five goals, not even strength. So there's no empty netters cushion this up. Five on five goals by a defenseman last year. He was tied for fifth in the NHL, the only demon who scored more goals at five on five than Denton, Matejuk were just in fault. Kale McCarr, Jacob, Chikren and of course Zach Werencky like that right there tells you that they have a really, really talented player on their hands. Secondly, I love the Columbus Blue jackets, but you're Columbus. If you can go and get a guy locked up for eight years, you should be absolutely trying to do that. And the third thing is much as Zach Werencky came out this week and set all the right things and said he wants to stay in Ohio and all of that. He's two years away from unrestricted free agency. If you have Matejuk for eight years, it's just an insurance policy where like if one day Werencky's not there, at least you can point to a guy who when Werencky leaves with

15:4423, 24 years old and go, Hey, this guy's going to get the power play time and this guy's going to be our 20 goal a year defenseman on the back end. I want to throw you another name though. That's really important. And that's Adam Fantilly and Columbus, who just like Cutter Goetje and Anaheim is still sitting unsigned in what's complicating this one is that Fantilly is an RFA for this year. Like he currently does not have a contract to play the upcoming season and the Blue Jackets only have once they send their third goalie down 13.4 million dollars in cap space. So they're almost in a similar spot to the ducks where like if they want to go long term with Adam Fantilly, they'd have to find a way to get money off the board. Yeah. And I think when you pull up puckpedia, our friends at puckpedia.com, the factor is you look at the top contracts on this forward roster is like Nechuskin at 31 Charlie Coral at 34 Garland at 30 Monahan at 31. Those are your big three and they're all in that six range other than Monahan being five five. So then when you start to think about the future, maybe like where do you get that superstar talent like you have? You

16:44still have a few guys in girl Machink or Marchinkoff who's going to be 26 when that deal is up. So Fantilly needs to be signed because there really isn't that superstar status. So maybe as you start to look forward to next year, maybe Wyrnski becomes that piece that has to be moved out with a tag along to try to draw in some younger talent as you want to build because right now Mursleekins will be off the books next year at his five million. You have Jed Grieves locked up. So potential to try to grow this team into something. It feels like something is going to have to drop in Columbus for them to have much of a future. Yeah. And to your point, Marchenko, maybe the Fantilly things even similar to the Jason Robertson scenario where it's like, man, next summer, Dallas has all the money in the world to go long term with Robertson. Next summer, 45 million dollars in cap space, Columbus could go long term with Marchenko and Fantilly and still have money to play with. But for this year, it's just really tight, which makes that Fantilly situation incredibly difficult to try and predict. We got a couple things we'll get to after our guest, but one thing we need to knock off the board real quick here before we get to Brock is,

17:48I want to do a little betting talk for friends at bet three six five. The worst thing about hockey season is that at some point every year, it ends. There's a lot of time between now and the first pucked up of next season, although 20 days from now, but that can still feel like an eternity for those of us used to nightly games at the bet three six five casino. You can choose between hundreds of other games like slots, live tables and your favorite, well, maybe your second paper games must be 19 or older, please play responsibly. Here's what I got for you today. Huts, I got three player goal total over unders for the year. And one of them was actually brought up by Tage fan in the YouTube chat a couple of minutes ago. That's Austin Matthews over 42 and a half goals. It is paying out even money, which I love. I love having that little plus symbol next to the payout and it was a step back last year for Matthews. He's been banged up the last two seasons. But if he stays healthy or even close to healthy, I think he's a lot to go over 42 and a half next season. Love that one. I also got Dylan Gunther, who was a 40 goal guy last year for the Utah mammoth. His line is set at 36 and a half. And the final pick I have is Jack Hughes of the new

18:51Jersey Devils. This is basically just betting on Jack Hughes to stay healthy. Because last year, he scored 27 goals in 61 games year before that, 27 goals in 62 games year before that, 27 goals in you guessed it 62 games. If this guy can get to 70 games, he will score 32 goals next season. So I really like to use one. Love the Matthews one. Gunther is looking to prove he can be a consistent 40 goal guy. Is there one of them you liked the most though? I think right now, the safest bet for me and that one is the Matthews over. I think a health issue is going to be the biggest one too. I think to get the 42 with what they have, the McKenna being there. I think the power play is going to be a star studded cast. And I think those are the ones for me. And again, the Gunther one seems like a sure thing to a lot of these are going to rely on health and where they're at. But the way Dylan Gunther can shoot the puck the way you taught is on the uprise, where they're at. I assume getting a 36 and a half is going to be no problem for a player like Dylan Gunther this year. All right. Let's keep things moving and get to our guest today. Brock Sagan with a little bit of fantasy hockey talking. It's brought to you by the Jasper Pawnt hockey tournament.

19:54It's back this January the 22nd till the 24th. If you've ever wanted to play hockey in the Rockies, with not just your best buds, but us at the daily face off team me, Hutz Pat comes out every year as well. This is your chance package. Start at just $570 per player. And when you're not on the ice, you'll enjoy nation hosted social events live entertainment and more find out more by going to nationexperiences.ca. There he is. Mr. Fantasy hockey here at daily face off Brock Sagan joins us. And yes, no more summer relaxing Brock, we're less than 20 days away from the start of the season. And I know you guys work hard year round to develop all the tools and stuff like that that we offer on the site. So I actually wanted to start with that for people who've used daily face off in the past or maybe even people who haven't. What are some of the new tools you guys are rolling out to help fantasy players this year? Yeah. I mean, where do I start? We've got a lot of new stuff this year. The, you know, the content machine is churning right now. This is the busiest time of

20:55year for us. But we've got some new fun tools this year. The most important one right now is the mock draft tool. So if you want to plug in your league settings and practice drafting, it goes based off ADP. So it'll kind of simulate a real draft and you can practice your draft with your league settings. It's all powered by our projections. It's super fun. And just a great way to learn the process and figure out who might be there and test different strategies throughout the process. And then on the DFO fantasy YouTube channel, I'm actually going to be running some mock drafts from every position one through 12 coming up soon. Just breaking down some of the optimal strategies using that mock draft tool. Got some really fun content coming down the line this year. It's just been a really busy time. But the content machine is alive and well. We've got a customisable projections tool there as well. We've had that for a few years, but we just keep making it better. So you plug in your settings. You get customized rankings for your league based on our projections. You can export them into an interactive cheat sheet. So all you got to do is

21:55check guys off as the drafts going on to follow along. So making it super simple for people, we're doing all the homework and just you know, you can come take it all. And it's what I'm so proud of is it is 100% free. Every single thing we offer is free. So we're here to help you and come steal our homework, I guess. I love it, bro. That's kind of how I got through plain in the NCAA. I had to get someone to help me with my homework. So what doing all your homework yet in a preview getting ready for the big season? What is a team that stands out to you while you've been going through this product here? Yeah, I've been on Twitter and some of my posts already pretty vocal about being all in on the New Jersey Devils this year. And the reason for it's a combination of things. And firstly, no team had worse pop luck in the league last year than the New Jersey Devils. They finished 77.9 goals scored below expected according to sport logic. That was 15 and a half more goals below expected than the second worst mark in the league. And the gap between them in second was the same size gap as the gap between second and seventh during last year's

22:57stretch. So they were just by far and away the most unlucky team last year. And I actually ran some data on recent seasons. I'm going to nerd out super hard here during this segment. But basically, there's like a one in 60 chance of them having as bad of luck as they did last season. And teams with luck not even anywhere close to that bad. Usually bounce back about 75% of the time. So I really like just this team overall to bounce back in a big way. Obviously, you know, Tyler's bet with Jack Hughes, hoping he stays healthy. That's going to be a huge factor. But they were just super snakebid across the entire roster last year. And I expect a lot of those guys to improve this year. But then the other side of it is that Nico, he sure, yes, per brat. They were like the two most individually unlucky players in the entire league last year. And then Luke Hughes was the most unlucky defenseman. 36 goals below expected. Well, on the ice last year is just outrageous. They all scored below expected on a personal level too. So I expect the assists and the goal totals to improve dramatically, even with just modest luck going their way. But on draft day in fantasy hockey,

24:01you're still paying a price for what they did last year. And if those numbers improve like we expect this year, they're all going to be massive bargains right now. Yes, per brat. He's the 19th right-winger off the board. I have met 12 Nico. He sure's the 28th center. I've got him at 18. Luke Hughes isn't even being drafted in the third of leagues. 38th defenseman off the board overall. I have met 26. So people are looking at last year's surface totals and being like these guys aren't very good. And the bounce back case is super easy to make for all of them. And then obviously a healthy jack use. It was just kind of be the cherry on top there. One team I wanted to ask you about. I'm fascinated by them because the team that wins the off season very rarely goes on to win the whole thing and win the Stanley Cup. And the Washington capitals were very busy this season. And you look and they have a lot of popular names. Names that guys are going to recognize. And just a bunch of guys with 20 goal potential like Tuck Du Bois, Kyru Wilson, Jenner, Strom, OV, Protoss, Boville, like Ryan Leonard. I just rattled off 10 guys who could very easily score 20 goals next season.

25:02But in a similar argument deal here with like fantasy football and you hear this conversation and basketball like there's only one ball to go around like there's only one puck that can go in the net in Washington. Like how do you handle a team like this when it comes to fantasy when it's like yeah, they're all good players, but they're not all going to have great years. There's only one puck. There's only four spots on the power play. Yeah, there's a lot of balls to feed there for sure. Then obviously you've got OV out there soaking up like four and a half minutes a night on the power play. Their lineup is like obviously to me the hardest to project coming into the season. Just so many new faces and just so much depth. You've got the Protoss brothers just both really starting to come into their own. And then you know, you've got really just a lot of right wingers too. Like I don't know who's like I have talk on the left wing. We'll see what ends up happening. There's it's going to be an interesting piece to see what they do with you know how they fit all those pieces and like even OVetch again, like I think he's probably more of a third line or now and just going to be a power play specialist. But it's interesting you're asking about the capitals because and this works out perfectly for me. I did a huge schedule analysis yesterday

26:07and it'll be released on dailyfaceoff.com and in the DFO YouTube channel in the coming days. But the capitals have one of the best fantasy schedules in the NHL next year. They have the most light night games in the league at 40, which basically means half of their games next year. You'll easily be able to fit capitals into your lineup and then they have the best fantasy hockey playoff schedule as well. So they are a team that I like taking late filling some of my bench spots with these guys that you can maximize your roster throughout the season. But I'm probably still going to shy away from some of the guys being drafted a little bit earlier like OVetch again, like Alex Tuck because as you mentioned, there's a lot of mouths to feed and I don't know if they're all going to reach their potential. But Jordan, Kyru and Dylan, Stronghold, are two guys that are going super late in drafts. Jordan, Kyru is seemingly being completely forgotten about and he is still a very, very good player, a very good goal scorer. So Jordan, Kyru is one of my favorite late round targets, Dylan, Stronghold's fine as well. But like those guys, they're going to sit on your bench, you're going to be able to play him super easily and then come playoff time. I think Kyru especially could be a

27:07guy that ends up being one of the biggest fantasy hockey steals this year. So kind of surrounding the edges of your roster with capitals is the way that I'm going to be going about it. And then obviously check out the schedule analysis coming soon. There's some other teams that fit that bill as well. Yeah, it's such an interesting take here like where the schedule is. And when I think of the caps, I think a Logan Thompson, I just did a we're just going to be airing today. I think I did a top five Vesna who I think is going to win there. When you think about goalies and fantasy, who is in that like high end tier elite for fantasy goalies? Yeah, Logan Thompson obviously is up there. I think I have a rank number two behind Andre Vasilevsky. I think it's kind of splitting hairs. I'm super high on Thompson. I'm higher than the consensus. But one goalie that I'm higher on here. The top of the market is Jeremy Swamin. He's just very low drama, kind of similar to Thompson. The Bruins are solid. They're probably not as good as the capitals, but he has very little competition for starts. I actually like Mikey D. Pietro, but I just don't think that he's going to put up much of a fight in terms of swimming, getting to like 55 starts this year. And last year obviously was a

28:09nice bounce back from 2025. 25 is starting to kind of look like the outlier season of his career. Basically, 910 safe percentage guy for his career. Last year had a 70% quality start percentage. So he went out there and he played extremely well almost every single night. So to me, he is a very steady top five fantasy netminder. And right now he's only being drafted as the ninth goalie off the board. So I think there's a lot of value with Jeremy Swamin. And I think that's a Bruins team that's going to be a little bit better this year as well. And if you want to talk about guys going late of the draft, basically undrafted. This is going to just be me continuing my devil's love. But Jake Allen, he's only being drafted in seven percent of leagues this year. And in terms of goal saved above expected per 60 last year, he was top 20 in the NHL. So I still think he's a very solid goalie on a team that I expect to be about to bounce back, expect to be back in the playoff hunt. And Jacob March from gone now that vacated 43 starts from the New Jersey devil's crease. So now Allen's going to be battling with whether it's Nico Dawes or David Riddick. We'll see. But I still think that Allen, he's got the term, not that there's not a lot of money on

29:10that deal, but he's got the term. I think he's going to be their de facto number one. And he'll probably start half of their games. And that's good enough for me to be your number three fantasy netminer. He's basically a throwaway. Some of you can pick up on free agents that I think is going to have a solid year. All right. Couple more quick ones for you here. You mentioned Kairu as a guy you like later in drafts. Can you give us maybe just a couple of other like late round targets that you're really high on this year? Yeah. So Tomas Hurtle is somebody that the data from last year just absolutely loves. So if you, you know, the center positions usually a lot deeper than the wing. So if you decide to go with some some D or goalies and in wingers early and you're going to wait on your centers a little bit like you could go with Nico, he's your super late and Tomas Hurtle NBA pretty comfortable, I think. Like the data is absolutely obsessed with Hurtle. The only person, only player that had more expected goals in the power play last year than Hurtle was Wyatt Johnson. And he scored like 27 power play goals. So Hurtle was pretty snakebait last year. He's a guy that I really love and then Luke Hughes is a guy that like in my mustache article,

30:10like he is somebody that I want in every single draft because he's probably he should be based on the data. Their number one power play quarterback over Dougie Hamilton. And like we're talking, you know, I talked a little bit about just like I think that team bouncing back as a whole and you just need a little bit more luck. But the other thing his ice time rose last year and the production didn't really because of that poor luck. He's going to be playing 23 minutes tonight at 23 years old and possibly the top quarterback on that top power play unit. So he's a guy that like you're going to get as your third or fourth defenseman that could be an absolute stud. So two guys that I'm certainly keeping an eye on. But I've got a whole list on dailyfaceoff.com. Check out the draft kit. We're releasing stuff nonstop. And if you ever have any questions reach out on X and we're happy to help out. I love it brok to one last quick one for me. How do you handle the disgruntled market? We're talking about Dylan Larkin, Connor Hellobock, these factors of the wrong teams right now. Where do they end up? Because they still have a lot of value. They're still great hockey players obviously. Yeah, the Larkin one hits close to home. Obviously as a Red Wings fan, I don't really know what to do there. It's just such a weird like Larkin specifically. I think you

31:16just kind of let him be in fantasy hockey because he's not going super early. So even where you take him, he's probably like close to your bench anyway. So I think you can kind of just take a swing on him and hope either he stays in Detroit or he gets traded to whoever and it works out. So I'm not so worried about taking Larkin kind of where he's being drafted. Hellobock's a little bit more difficult, right? Like he is going super early and he is a top three fantasy goalie. And if it doesn't work out or if he sits out or whatever, it could hurt your fantasy team. But at the same time, if he does go get traded to a contender, he's going to probably be in for even larger win equities than he is on a Winnipeg jet scene. That's not great. So hellobock is a dicey one. But I think he's still so elite that I'm worth taking the swing on. Last one I had for you, I don't know if you ever cover this, but Jay Rock is in and he says his favorite way to do fantasy is an auction draft. Do you guys have anything on the site to help people with auction drafts? We don't currently, but I do auction drafts in fantasy football and fantasy

32:22baseball. I've never done one for hockey, but I actually am going to be releasing auction prices coming up here towards the end a little bit not towards the end of the month, but in the next like week or two, I will be completely honest. It's going to be my first swing at it. So we'll see how it goes. Yeah, like I think auction drafts are super fun. But it's not something we've ever released before, but it is something that I have planned coming up here in the next week or so. All right. Great stuff. As always, Brock, daily face off fantasy YouTube. We'll throw a link in the chat so people can go subscribe there for more fantasy hockey content. Of course, it doesn't just stop at the draft. You keep us plugged in all year long. We look forward to checking in with you throughout the season, Brock. Yeah. Thanks so much for having, boys. Cheers. Great stuff from our friend, Brock Sagan. We got one question in here from, I think it's Karen, Karoon. There are Sands fan. They want to know Steve Steyos mentioned the media yesterday that he has opened the signing PTOs for the upcoming season. My question is, do you guys happen to know

33:24which players are eligible? Super easy question to answer. It's anyone who's a free agent right now. So you can go to pucked media. You can scroll down about halfway through the page and you can see all the current pending free agents in the league. Anyone who doesn't have a contract is eligible to sign a professional tri out speaking of the senators, a former senator Alex Formington is back in the NHL. He was of course one of the five men, young men who was a part of the Hock Tanda trial last year. He spent the last number of seasons playing in the Swiss A league and the Edmonton Oilers have given him predictably it's the oilers a one year, $850,000 deal. The last time he was in the NHL Hots, he was good. He scored 18 goals last season. His last few years and the Swiss league have been bad. I think he was like 80th in scoring in the league. So yeah, when you look at these numbers, you go, whoa, the Oilers might have gotten themselves a really good player here. He isn't playing the NHL in basically five years. And I was talking with a couple of people who watch him in the Swiss league. Wasn't good. He finished fifth on his team and scoring in the Swiss league. He had

34:24half as many points as yes, a full YARV last season in the Swiss league. So again, I get people want to bring the bell of second chances and whatever. I also just don't really love when teams seem to be giving guys opportunities almost as a way to be like, yeah, because of what happened, he deserves to be here. You get what I'm saying? Like, he doesn't feel like a guy who with his play in the Swiss league is banging down the door to get a second chance in the NHL. Yeah, I get that vibe too for sure. And I would assume the scouting and the staff that went into this obviously are making a decision to try to get that. And I guess the hope would be on the other side of it. The potential to be good in the NHL is a different than the Swiss league, the style of play. And I felt like I always felt this way with goalies, not necessarily players is the translation from a European game to an NHL game is a lot different. I think because of those numbers, we look back in 21, 22 and the 18 goals, it probably buys him this chance to get an opportunity. And I guess maybe the low risk side of it, but it does draw a lot of attention this signing to Ed and Nathan Oilers as usual. Yeah, they just seemingly can't help themselves

35:28when it comes to stuff like this, but we'll move on from that. I'll probably have more later on the daily face off Edmonton YouTube channel. The only other story I kind of wanted to touch on for a little quick garbage time as we get to the season huts. I hate that the NHL is keeping the decentralized draft format. I want them to go back to 32 teams on the draft floor, the whole hockey world coming together in one spot kind of end off the season. It was fun. I got to cover three drafts. They were all awesome. I hate that the NHL's pulled this away simply to save the owners a few bucks on travel. It sucks. Yeah, no, I agree. I think it was part of the hotbed of hockey, right? The draft floor, the phones working conversations being had moments being there. And then the fact of everybody being there boots on the ground being drafted for the kids. I think that's a huge experience. So I'm with you on that one. I know the logistics to go into it, but there's money to be cut in other places and they added 84 games. Come on, they can keep this for us. Yep. All right, that is a wrap on today's or this week's edition of the show. We're back again next week with another Wednesday

36:31edition of the program and then by the end of the month, we're going to be back to five days a week because hockey is back. Enjoy the rest of your week. Everybody and we'll see you next Wednesday.