Mormon Historian Admits Joseph Smith First Vision Problems Raised in CES Letter - Dr. Steven Harper | Ep. 1976

Join us for a discussion with Sandra Tanner and Dan Vogel as we explore a remarkable video featuring BYU Professor and leading Mormon historian Steven C. Harper. In this video, Harper addresses key issues with the First Vision narrative and acknowledges several challenges raised by the CES Letter.

Show Notes

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00:07:40 Wesley Walters

00:13:45 Clip - Fawn Brodie

00:26:09 Clip - Steven Harper on Joseph changing his story

00:27:37 Summary of the 1838 Account of the First Vision

00:39:42 Hermeneutics of doubt and trust

00:42:55 Clip - Bushman taking a charitable approach

00:50:02 Clip - publishing through Oxford

00:56:12 Clip - Memory studies nature of memory

01:00:38 John calling BS on Joseph Smith’s vision

01:19:15 Joseph Smith believed that God and Jesus were one being in 1832

01:30:50 The problem with Mormon apologetics with the First Vision

01:37:50 Clip - Critics not trusting Joseph Smith

01:45:32 Clip - How can you know without the Spirit?

01:55:45 Faith is a matter of choice?

02:01:19 Clip - BYU responding to Wes Walters

02:18:12 Clip - How many accounts of the First Vision?

02:36:20 Who visited him changes from 1832 to 1838

02:38:55 Clip - There will always be doubt

02:54:00 Clip - I might not have seen what Joseph saw

02:56:55 Distinguishing features of modern Mormonism

03:03:46 Mental gymnastics

03:13:50 Clip - Who does Joseph tell?

03:19:00 Joseph Smith’s name on the Methodist Sunday School

03:24:55 Clip - Ask Joseph Smith

03:34:25 Final thoughts

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