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The allegation became even more troubling because Kohberger knew the woman’s Wi-Fi information and was believed to have had the technical ability to access the security cameras after installing them, potentially allowing him to watch her remotely. Former FBI profiler Greg Cooper told Dateline that, if the account was accurate, the episode could have reflected a desire for power and control, with Kohberger allegedly creating the problem and then presenting himself as the person who could solve it. The claim attracted enormous attention after Kohberger was charged with murdering Madison Mogen, Kaylee Goncalves, Xana Kernodle and Ethan Chapin because it appeared to describe intrusive and manipulative behavior toward another young woman before the killings. However, the break-in and spying allegations came from unnamed sources and were not, at the time of the reporting, established through an official police filing or court finding.
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The True Crime Tapes — Murder In Moscow: Bryan Kohberger And The Dateline Special. Machine-transcribed; use the interactive transcript above to jump the player to any line.
What's up everyone and welcome back to the program. So date line had a program on Friday night about Brian Colbergor and the murders in Moscow and to say it was interesting is an understatement. Usually when we see a program like this, it's more of a rehashing of everything we know. Well, they had a new little tidbit in there for us and that tidbit is, Brian Colbergor, allegedly, broken to an apartment of a female colleague and installed security cameras to spy on her. Months before any of the murders in Moscow even took place. So that evidence that we talk about the circumstantial evidence, it continues to pile up. And when we hear stories like this on a show like date line, chances are there is probably some tread there. So let's get to this article from the DailyMail.com and let's get caught up. Headline
Idaho quadruple murder suspect Brian Colbergor broke into an apartment of a female colleague that installed security cameras to spy on her when she asked for help. Months before the brutal killings and I doubt that was the only time dudes ever broke in to anyone's house or anything like that too. And in fact, I'm starting to believe that he probably killed someone before he killed these kids. Now do I have any evidence to back that up? Zero, not one bit. But the more we hear about this dude, the more he fits a pattern and the more it seems likely to me anyway that he has done something like this in the past. The author of this article is Emma James. Suspected killer Brian Colbergor allegedly broke into a female colleague's apartment and moved items around to get her to ask for his help before installing security cameras. So the dude breaks in, sets the whole entire stage that this woman's in danger that somebody
broke into her house so that he can come in there and put cameras in there so he can spy on her. Yeah, certainly sounds like a stellar dude. Certainly sounds like somebody that should be receiving a ton of love letters while he's locked in a cage. The 28 year old criminology student had befriended the woman at Washington State University in Pullman, Washington, according to date line. The alleged incident took place months before the brutal killings of University of Idaho students, Kelly Gonsalves, Madison Mogen, Zanna Kernotal, and Ethan Chapin on November 13th last year. So there was a progression with Brian Colbergor's behavior. And we've seen that from everything that we've heard about what he was up to. The fights with the teachers, getting more aggressive with the way he was grading papers and with students and just generally beginning to unravel. And once that unraveling began for Brian Colbergor, there was no stopping it.
And it led to the murders that we saw at that house at 1122 King Road in the early morning hours of November 13th. I'm convinced of that at this point. And each day that goes by and the more I dive into those core documents, the more I become convinced. Colbergor is suspected of breaking into the property and moving items around but not stealing anything, which resulted in his colleague contacting him instead of the police. The woman who has not been identified asked the suspected killer to come over to assist her and he reportedly suggested she installed a surveillance system in the property. And it would make sense, right? Remember, we're using hindsight to look at Brian Colbergor, but if you were his friend, then you would think that a criminology student, somebody who is going to school for technology if you will, to stop bad guys, might have a few ideas about how you could secure your pad. So it would make sense to reach out to Brian Colbergor, especially since nothing was stolen
and I think that if you have a friend who is a criminology student, that would be a pretty natural thing to do. Dayline claims that he offered to put in the video network, which she agreed to, though now authorities believe that he could have accessed it remotely because he knew her Wi-Fi password. Oh, I'm sure he had a back door or a Pugnant douchebag like this. Oh, absolutely. He's going to have a way that he can peep in Tom on what's going on. XFBI profiler, Greg Cooper, claims that the incident was a step in the progression of Colbergor's alleged offending, indicating that he was upping the ante. He told Dayline, I would expect that he orchestrated the whole thing. He was not looking at her as a potential victim, necessarily, but he orchestrated it so that he would come to save her and that he would be able to help her. It is another level of power and domination and control over another person. It definitely shows a level of progression.
Now again, I think that it might not have been the first time that Colbergor did something like this though. I think that he might have done this before and he probably did it in an area relatively close to Pullman. So one of those unsolved cases where some creepy, deranged son of a bitch crawled into somebody's house and murdered them and got away with it. I don't think that Brian Colbergor can be ruled out. Now we have to look at timelines and all of that, but there has to be some other progressive step that occurred here. And I think that this was all part of the progression and the unraveling, but it's very odd and very uncharacteristic for somebody during their first murder to kill four people. The hero image that he can portray, you've got this problem. I'm here to solve the problem for you and to make it better for you. The NBC special also revealed that Colbergor had reportedly bought a K-Bar knife and sheath
in April of 2022 before the move to Washington. He had still been studying at the Salis University in Pennsylvania, but date line sources claim that he purchased the knife, which cops say, is the murder weapon and took it with him when he moved. Cooper added he had a fantasy of thinking about committing crimes for a long time with that knife and he had become familiar with it. He felt that ease with it and if he had it for a long time purchased it while he was in Pennsylvania, if there's any other crime that matches up to that kind of knife, anywhere in the vicinity, hell, anywhere within driving distance of, you know, 12, 14 hours even, I'd be looking at it if I was the FBI. Because who knows what this dude was up to. The more we learn about him, the more likely I think it is that he's hurt people before. Other sources claim that Colbergor could have been in the property where the killings took
place on King Road when the four women were not even present. These were reportedly called to the party house in Moscow, but the residents were not always there. Cooper claims that he would have entered in a group of people to watch and monitor and imagine, adding that he would know exactly where everyone slept. It comes after Colbergor was indicted on four felony murder charges and the burglary charge last week. He will be arraigned on Monday morning at 9 a.m. with Leita County clerk confirming to DailyMail.com that the hearing would take place. The alleged killer was extradited from Pennsylvania to Idaho in January, but was not formally indicted on the four felony murder charges and burglary. And that had to do with him waving his right to the quick and speedy trial. So when he did that, he opened the door for them to use the grand jury option, which they did. And it certainly was a calculated move on his defense's part.
But when you have this kind of complex case, sometimes you have to roll the dice, right? You have to make sure that you're going to give your client the best chance possible. He waved his right to a speedy, preliminary hearing at the time, pushing it back six months until June. But the decision by the grand jury means there is no need for a preliminary hearing. This means that the surviving roommates will not have to face Colbergor unless he pleads not guilty, which would mean the case would go to trial. A grand jury hearing is not conducted in open court with 16 members of the general public hearing evidence from the prosecution. The defendant and their legal teams are not allowed to attend the hearing, but Colbergor's legal team will receive a transcript of the proceedings. A gag also remains in place, preventing anyone connected to the case from speaking publicly, go and appeal to overturn this will be heard on May 25th on behalf of the associated press and the Goncalves family.
I don't see them making much headway there. I mean, it would be nice if they did, right? Get rid of that gag order or at least pair it back some, but I don't think that judge Marshall is going to go back on her own gag order. I don't think there has been enough evidence presented and enough case law presented by the associated press or by Shannon Gray to be honest with you. When we were going through those memorandums, it seemed like all of the case law that had been presented by the plaintiffs here, by the associated press and by the Shannon Gray. It seemed like their case law was a bit weak as opposed to the response from the state. So I don't think that judge Marshall is going to be moved here. I hope she is because obviously I want more information about the case too, but I just don't think she's going to get knocked off her perch. Co-burgers legal team filed a motion to compel discovery in the Leittah County Court on May 4th. It reiterates previous requests made on February 3rd and on March 24th.
It seeks all body and dash cam footage from officers involved in his arrest in Pennsylvania, all audio or video evidence from his time in jail, including police interrogations, lab reports from the forensic evidence seized at his parents home and his on the a launcha and the training records for officers involved in the case. And they push back on that one. The prosecutor's office said that'll be a touch and go kind of thing. And if they think that it's worthy under the Idaho laws that govern this sort of thing, then they'll reevaluate that. But they're not just going to turn over records to the defense about the officers. His latest legal filing comes after it was revealed that police found traces of blood and the secret storage locker at his apartment in Pullman, Washington, a 15 minute drive from where the alleged murders took place. All right, so there's a little bit more information. And you know, with the gag order hanging over this case, every little nugget is important.
So last time we had any kind of nuggets like this was really with people magazine talking about Instagram and then talking about the Mad Greek and the University of Idaho. So this is interesting. And I'm sure that as things keep moving forward, other people are going to come forward who are not trapped under the parameters of that gag order and have some very interesting things to say about Brian Colberg. All right, everybody. That's going to do it for this one. All of the information that goes with the episode can be found in the description box.
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