Murder In Moscow: Jennifer Coffindaffer Discusses The Murders In Moscow

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1:05What's up everyone and welcome back to the program. When the murders in Moscow first happened, I was going back and forth if the sex of the person or person's responsible for the murders was going to be male or female. But the more we have learned, the more obvious I think anyway that the person or persons responsible here were males. When you hear about the viciousness of the attacks and especially after we heard some more details from Kaleigh's dad, it certainly leads me to believe that it was somebody with a lot of strength who was pretty pissed off when they committed these murders. Now, who was it? I have no idea. Why were they pissed off? I don't know that either. And frankly, I don't think anyone else does either. But today we have an article from Newsweek and the next FBI agent, Jennifer Kofendaffer is talking about how difficult it is to use a

2:07knife on somebody and murder them and how it's not an easy thing to do. So that leads her to believe that the person or persons responsible here were males. And I've certainly been of that opinion since all of this broke. So let's get into this article and let's see what Jennifer Kofendaffer and the author of the article and a commander have for us headline. I had a whole murder stabbing's weren't easy suspect was a man, former FBI agent. The stabbing murders of four university of Idaho students in November were not easy. One former FBI agent tweeted on Sunday, concluding that the suspect was a man. And now this is somebody that obviously has a lot of experience building these kinds of profiles. And when you have a lot of experience dealing with situations like this, you catch things that other people might miss, right? That's why the commentary from a lot of these

3:12ex profilers or X FBI agents. I find it to be pretty interesting to be honest with you. I always like to get the opinions and the viewpoints from the men and women that are actually on the ground in situations like this and do have it real life and real time experience dealing with all of the issues that you see popping up in an investigation like this. Jennifer Kofendaffer a retired FBI agent and law enforcement analyst took to Twitter on Sunday voicing her thoughts on the Idaho stabbing's. When I was doing my EMT rotations out of a fire station in South Dallas, my first call was to a stabbing. Kofendaffer said she continued, the woman was stabbed many times perforated lung but was screaming and angry to murder these four Idaho students took ferociousness, strength and resolve. It wasn't easy. In my experience, it was a man. And I agree, you have to be very strong

4:17to do what happened here. And when we got more context, obviously, especially recently, like I said in the opening, what we learned from Kaylee's father about the brutal nature of these wounds and how deep some of the wounds were. I was pretty much convinced at that point that it was a man who was behind these murders. It would take a very, very strong woman to do what happened here. And I know that they were asleep and all of that, but still you would have to be very strong to do the person or persons did inside of this house and with the brutality of it all and with how violent the attack was. I just have a hard time believing that it was a woman. On November 13, the Moscow police department responded to a home near the University of Idaho and discovered Kaylee Goncalves, Madison Mogen, Ethan Chapin and Zanakernodal fatally stabbed.

5:19As of Thursday, Moscow police have yet to identify a suspect or a person of interest. Police have also been unable to uncover a weapon, but previously said that they were searching for a fixed blade knife and up until today, even, which is the 19th. No suspect found, no weapon found, no person of interest that they've stated publicly and it would seem that the investigators are no closer to finding answers here than when this all first started. On Friday, Moscow police updated the public on their progress in the investigation, specifically regarding the search for a white 2011, 2013 Hyundai Alantra. We have looked at massive amounts of video footage, especially in the critical camera areas. Chief James Fry said in a video posted to YouTube. Now with the Hyundai, I think they're doing a fantastic job going through the leads that

6:21they have, but what if it's stolen? I know I talked about this earlier when we were talking about the Hyundai Alantra in that episode, but if you're going to commit a crime like this and it's premeditated and you plan it all out, wouldn't you go the extra step of watching a quick ass TikTok video and learning how to steal a car and doing it easily because we know that it's very simple to do. There's a bunch of teenagers running around doing a TikTok challenge about stealing these kinds of Hyundai's and Kia's. So it's not like it's very difficult to do. Now, obviously, I don't have any information that you're not privy to about the Hyundai being stolen, but I think it's certainly a valid avenue for the investigators to take a walk down. Dave Roberts here. There you are surrounded by fans, sharing wings, sharing drinks, high-fiving random strangers. Everybody remembers the game. Nobody remembers the guy coughing behind you until a few days later at 2 a.m., you wake up with the

7:25and your throats on fire. Now what? Urgent care, clothes, ER, slam, telehealth, maybe, but the pharmacy's clothes. You needed a medical emergency kit. These aren't first aid kits. They contain essential prescriptions used for over 30 common conditions, sinus and ear infection, UTI, stomach bug, travelers diarrhea, and more. On hand before you need them. Use your doctor-developed guidebook to select the right prescription or call their telemedicine doctor standing by. It's like an urgent care and drugstore at home. When you're sick, traveling, or stranded, you'll wish you ordered a medical emergency kit. Order online in minutes and it's shipped to your door and say $45 with my promo code blue at urgentcarekit.com slash blue. That's promo code blue at urgentcarekit.com slash blue. Free continued. We looked at the 24 hours prior and 24 hours after of those and now and we're extending that out even further to other cameras and other time frames. Moscow investigators continue

8:29to say that they believe the occupants of the Hyundai may have critical information to share the case. And look, I don't know if the people who are driving this Hyundai are responsible for these murders. But it certainly seems like quite the coincidence that this car is showing up on all of these cameras right in the golden hour, if you will, of when these murders allegedly took place. So I could see why the investigators would be so gung ho about finding whoever was driving that vehicle. Meanwhile, Coffin Daffer also shatter thoughts regarding the possibility of video evidence getting leaked. I fear his time goes on and the public becomes more impatient with law enforcement concerning the Idaho homicides, more video and other information provided to law enforcement may be leaked. The former FBI agent said, and anytime you're in any investigation leaks are something you're going to have to contend with. But when you're in an investigation such as this,

9:32you're going to have people who are going to leak. There's no doubt there's so many people who are involved and there's going to be people who have an extra grind with the investigation for a slight or a perceived slight, whatever it might be, but people are going to have leaks. And the longer this goes, the likelihood of that happening, it really increases. We even saw down in Delphi towards the end here, there were leaks about what the police were doing with Keegan Klein. And it's typical for small towns like this, especially for there to be a lot of scuttle, but and people talking air like Coffin Daffer argued this will only harm the investigation. The killer is part of the public and you can bet he is watching. I definitely think that's happening. And I'm sure whoever this person is or these people, they're getting off on it. And the longer it goes again, the more I'm convinced it's just one person, because how many people can keep secrets? Folks, how long do people usually keep secrets?

10:37Not very long. Somebody tells their buddy or somebody has a guilty conscience and they tell somebody else. And the more people you have involved in a crime, the likelihood of you getting caught, it dramatically increases with each person who's part of the crime. Because all it takes is one person having loose lips and everybody sunk. So the longer this goes without anyone being arrested or any suspects or anything like that, the more I'm convinced it was just one killer who did this. Now obviously that's just my speculation and the way I'm reading this and it can be completely off base. And wherever the evidence leads us, that's where I'm going to go. But from what we're looking at here and what we currently see, man, it certainly looks to me like it's a male and it was one person. Coffin that for told Newsweek on Sunday with the new information regarding the Alantra, we know police are disseminating info regarding the Alantra. That makes me wonder how the car comes

11:40into play. Nothing is making sense regarding the Alantra. That's true too. Nothing really does make sense regarding that Alantra. Obviously the police, they believe that it holds critical information and evidence that could maybe according to the investigators below the doors off the case and be that critical piece of information that they need to get there arrest. But as of now, we really haven't seen anything else besides them putting out the call to arms if you will about information surrounding that Hyundai Alantra. The crime was filled with passion, hate and done by someone who feels they were so wronged Coffin that for argued. She continued saying that she believes the crime may have been thought out and executed to a degree. And if it was targeted and we're going off of the official narrative, that certainly seems to the track. A crime that was filled with passion, hate and done by someone who feels they were so wronged

12:43that they had to be this violent. So that's certainly all tracks with me as she builds that profile. Now is it going to end up being, you know, a hit? Who knows, but it's certainly an interesting profile that's being built. And when you look at everything that we have learned and you look at just the circumstantial evidence that we have available, it becomes more and more apparent, at least to me that the person who did this was angry as hell. Now the question is what were they angry about? I think they the suspect were brilliant to enter an exit without being seen. They were familiar with the house. Coffin that for added and that's something else. I've said this person's pretty smooth to be able to evade this gigantic manhunt for going into two months now. This person's either relatively shrewd and relatively sophisticated or they are really, really lucky. And if they have that kind of luck and that's what they're going to continue to rely on

13:49to keep their ass out of the ringer, well, that luck is going to run out eventually. But I don't think it's going to come with hard-knows police work. I think it's going to come with a tip from the public because historically speaking, that's how this stuff usually goes. It's usually a tip and that usually leads the investigators to the person they're looking for. All right, folks, that's going to do it for this one. If you'd like to contact me, you can do that at Bobby Kapuchi at proton mail.com. That's B O BB Y C A P U C C I at proton mail.com can also find me on Twitter at B O BB Y underscore C A P U C C I the link that I discussed can be found in the description box. airline credit card. Dave Roberts here. There you are surrounded by fans sharing wings, sharing drinks, high-fiving random strangers. Everybody remembers the game. Nobody remembers the guy coughing behind you until a few days later. At 2 a.m., you wake up with the fever and

14:52your throats on fire. Now what? Urgent care? Close. ER? Slam? Telehealth? Maybe. But the pharmacy's closed. You needed a medical emergency kit. These aren't first aid kits. They contain essential prescriptions used for over 30 common conditions. Sinus and ear infection, UTIs, stomach bug, travelers diarrhea and more. On hand before you need them. Use your doctor-developed guidebook to select the right prescription or call their telemedicine doctor standing by. It's like an urgent care and drugstore at home. When you're sick, traveling or stranded, you wish you ordered a medical emergency kit. Order online in minutes and it's shipped to your door and say $45 with my promo code blue at urgentcarekit.com slash blue. That's promo code blue at urgentcarekit.com slash blue.