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Maya is on the phone today for her first day follow-up.
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And she's getting ghosted by a guy named Trevor.
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So in a few minutes, we'll call him and see if he'll tell us why he's ghosting her.
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And maybe get her another date.
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But first, Maya, how long has it been since you heard from Trevor?
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That's quite a while.
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Well, so I tried reaching out, you know, a little.
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Oh, yeah, it's fine.
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And then I texted again and said, oh, you're weak.
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And then I just on TikTok.
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That one that I thought I would like.
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Because I already connected on there.
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Because I didn't want to be that girl, you know.
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After one day, that feels like a lot.
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I don't think that's why you're getting ghosted, though.
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Because if he really liked you, it wouldn't matter.
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That's why I'm so confused.
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Because it really was a great date.
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We'll tell us about it.
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What do you guys do?
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Well, they just, you know, did something low-key.
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We're like, let's get a coffee.
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You know, a trendy coffee shop, I guess.
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It ended up being one of those ones where it's like plants and coffee.
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But then there's just like one plant.
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And it's behind the counter.
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So you can't tell if it's fake.
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Everything costs nine dollars.
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But it's pretty good.
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They have like lavender.
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So we like, you know, got our drinks and ended up talking for a long time.
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I remember because he made us like, we'll speak about how he drinks coffee for the vibes.
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I was like, I mean, that's funny.
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Sir, you want to hear what our coffee is?
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I mean, we were, we were just vibing.
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So that's just an example of it.
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And then we walk around.
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I've been here by like outdoor market, you know, like sometimes it's a, what do you call
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And we can't like a farmer's market.
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But there's just like little, little stuff.
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I bought this really good honey for just to take home.
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A lot of local honey.
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Travel and people watched.
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It's like teasing me like in a flirty way.
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I felt like so casting.
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But it just felt like wrong.
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It was just one of those like perfect days, you know.
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And then we, you know, sat down on the bench towards the end of the day.
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They finished our coffee and he put his arm around me and it wasn't awkward.
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It was felt natural.
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And yeah, we did kiss on the bench.
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Kiss on a bench and everything.
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You're still getting ghosted, huh?
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What do you think went wrong?
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This sounds damn slow.
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I'm like, I feel dumb for even thinking this is why you could be ghosted.
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I can't think of anything else.
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I did feel still my drink on him while I was laughing when we were sitting on the bench.
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And it kind of went everywhere, you know, like there's a little bit left.
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But man, that like would just go, you know, like on the ground on the bench.
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So but he joked about it and stuff.
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I thought that was fine.
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But I was like, well, maybe he thinks I'm too much of a mess because of that.
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Oh, I hope that's not why he ghosted you.
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How did he act after you spilled?
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So you said he was kind of joking about it.
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But like, did you kiss again after the bench?
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I think actually I'm going to spill that before I kissed him.
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But yeah, no, it didn't seem to like change anything.
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I don't feel like my mom a lot.
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I just don't remember that.
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Like bringing it up more than once.
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Not like a trauma way.
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But I was like, yeah.
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If it's like talking about your mom, like, you know, to bring up exes.
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But like, I'm just my mom.
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That can't be weird.
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I talk about my mom all the time.
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I think that's probably fine.
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Like you said, that just depends on how you're bringing it up.
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Maya is on the phone.
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And she's getting ghosted by a guy named Trevor for three weeks now.
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So we're about to get him on the phone and see if he'll tell us why he's ghosting her.
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And maybe get her a second date.
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But before we call him, Maya, why don't you break down your date with Trevor again real quick?
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He really was a coffee date, date and date.
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I've heard her back.
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Are you ready for us to call him up?
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I'm going to dial this phone right now.
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Speak to Trevor, please.
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Hey, Trevor, how are you?
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This is a radio show.
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It's called the Jubil Show.
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And my name's Jubil.
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Is this real right now?
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Is anything really real, Trevor, if you think about it?
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Anyway, I feel like you can have that conversation right now.
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Have you ever listened to the Jubil Show before?
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Well, you might know or not know.
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But we do a segment called the first date follow-up.
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That's where if you go on a date with somebody and you end up ghosting them, they can e-mail
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us to get you on the phone and ask why.
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So we got an e-mail about you from somebody.
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It's probably about Maya, isn't it?
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Well, it is about Maya.
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You're correct, Trevor.
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She emailed us and we talked to her a little bit about your date.
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She sounded like she really liked you.
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Do you mind telling us why you're ghosting her?
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Look, first of all, I didn't hate her date.
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She just honestly did like one little thing that kind of freaked me out.
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Well, she ordered the same drink as me right after I ordered it.
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And that freaked you out.
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What's your drink again, Trevor?
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We went to a coffee shop and we got a cold brew.
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So you got just a straight up cold brew?
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You can ghost me because you got the same drink as you.
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Yeah, but it's not just like that.
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Like she said, that sounds good.
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Hey, Trevor, that's Maya.
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And she wants to talk to you, obviously.
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She didn't know she'd hear me all right.
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Yeah, I need to know.
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And I just, are you serious?
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Are you ghosting me over?
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Why ordered a coffee shop?
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I don't really know.
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Well, I was calling it 30 thirds.
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Yeah, well, I also didn't know you were going to order this
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same exact drink with me, I mean.
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Well, why is that a theme?
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Wait, because I ordered a cold brew?
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If I ride motorcycles, you're riding motorcycles, and if I do, I've been through that.
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So you think it starts with the drink, ordering the same drink as you, and then they're wanting
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to do everything the same as you.
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Look, man, I've just, that's in my past, that's what I've experienced.
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It is one coffee, not a whole lifestyle change.
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It's just so important.
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You put your arm around me, you kiss me, and then you disappear over a drink order
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from the beginning of the date.
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When we, when we say like that, it sounds bad.
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I mean, I still stand by it.
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I really don't want somebody like to copy my personality, is what it is, and that's psychotic,
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But I'm the psycho.
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You're the one who's trying to morph into me.
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I know you're going to be ordering the same thing as dinner, saying like, you're not hungry
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and eating all my food, and absolutely not for that.
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I've had enough shape shifters in my life.
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I do not want another shape shifter.
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Have you ever met a woman before when you just, yeah, I've met at least three of them,
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and then all of a sudden they were, they were me.
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Start riding a motorcycle, you crazy person, but you kissed me.
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Yeah, I did, but you know, you ordered the same drink as me, it's only a matter of time
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I feel like I'm kissing myself.
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Okay, we'll have fun with that.
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Trevor, would you like another date with Maya?
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Um, honestly, I don't think so.
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I can go take myself out to dinner.
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Well, that's good because if I did work until you, I would become incredibly uninteresting
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and I wouldn't want that to happen to me.
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Well, you know, don't hate the player, hate the game.
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If you really want to be mad, so I'm going to be mad at Maddie.
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It's the last girl copied my drink order.
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I'm really great for her.
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Yeah, I'm wise to that now, she's shapeshifter.
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