Naomi Olson (SEAisMEDICINE) on Ocean Art, Aloha Energy & Bitcoin Culture | THE WHOLE ENTIRE UNIVERSE w/ Anik Malcolm X Spaces v1

All right then I take it to one oh shit and go good morning good afternoon good

evening ladies gentlemen boys and girls this is the by now fifth episode of the

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today hope you enjoy your time with us and now any further ado it is my sincere

pleasure to introduce to you my gosh what is she she's a photographer she's a

collage maker supreme she's a Bitcoin Beachwear creator she is even a podcast

holster she is a surfer she's one-time skateboarder this is Naomi Aloha

be to Bitcoin Aloha see his medicine how are you doing Naomi Aloha it's so

nice to be here and thank you for that awesome intro you deserve it so

thoroughly how are you doing man it's you're wearing a cape is it got is it a

BTC Aloha cape of course what really have you got BTC Aloha capes now that's

amazing I need a towel we're creative right you know we can magical sorts of

things exactly exactly yeah you guys haven't been all my peeps are here it's awesome

Amy yeah man Amy Amy's here girl Fox live cool man it's gonna be a blast I haven't

known me I've been really looking forward to this one because you're with such vibes from

from moment one right you will you will like my official introduction to the vibes

and and also because we haven't spoken for ages I mean you and I do occasionally have a chat

and we haven't done so for a while I guess we just built things busy and stuff

but yeah it's really not really good to catch up yeah I like the idea maybe I should just become

director of the vines that kind of is a great umbrella term for the whole your entire like

arsenals yeah you just really didn't see spider in me um okay yeah go ahead sorry tell me actually

I haven't you know I'm getting organized nowadays of this time I haven't even just

wrote down categories I've wrote written them down in columns so you you haven't

been able to go through this like column by column today so I'm super super duper organized but

I forgot to write down it didn't occur to me and this is something I've been wanting to ask you

lots since you know since you were doing it how the heck was hamstered um

oh it was I mean it was great it's awesome um yeah I mean I got to see like

hamstered there and nice rebel oh really was he there rebel and Bart and also um yeah Zetra

and um yeah it was really cool oh man I'm getting retrospective retrospective fomo now

well it wasn't pretty small gallery is it but there was the live art which I think is great I think

we definitely are trying to do more interactive and live stuff um so I look forward to

bringing more of that on board it was I will be able to be part of that and I was managing a

stage so I didn't really get to hang out that much okay I was gonna ask what what was your role

because I didn't I don't even know yeah well I was on the programming team so I got I helped

like um create sessions and panels and then manage the second stage which was the orange stage

wow which is still pretty big it must have been fun and it must have been hectic I guess as well

it was fun however I used to do production works it was kind of in my wheelhouse wow I forgot to add

that to the intro that's rewind to do it again wow okay cool yeah so I was gonna ask how did you

slide into that I guess via Dennis and and or no I actually had been applying at the company

off and on for years hmm okay cool so it was kind of like a long time coming I was just sort of the

right I don't know everything just aligned and boom sweet nice and you were in Europe like doing

other bits and bubs as well weren't you at the time well yeah I was working I went to visit my

sister at Ireland and I went to the coast like 30-minute train ride from Amsterdam is kind of

hung out there and that was super cute it's kind of like a gingerbread house what is the where you

were the Netherlands oh yeah it's very flat hence the name but yeah but they are but I mean

everything is kind of cute in like a gingerbread house I grew up not too far from there in North

Germany and so it was an easy train ride to legal things if you see what I mean yeah the trains

are pretty epic they're a super super easy and fast is there still a lot a lot of graffiti on them

they used to be oh yeah well I didn't see a lot on the train however there was graffiti you know

like in the tunnels yeah yeah yeah like underpasses and things like that there's a very busy

I took I took a couple photos of the graffiti yeah I mean I can sit for hours and trains in Europe

just looking out the windows you know get the get the landscape to get the graph you get the

landscape to get the graph it's great that the tree is very fat I think I like to do more train

travel again I love I was thinking like you know because this travel thing and like Bitcoin

solving travel is a huge like we got to figure this out I was kind of thinking like wow I haven't

ever taken a boat across like the Atlantic or the Pacific I think that would be coming on maybe

next time I go to Europe maybe I'll try to just go slow and you know that would be so much fun

then I'll need to do something so I can work during the trip and just like take a boat make sure

the boat tipping club is nowhere to be seen though that's right

leave your keys at home yeah cool so I'm glad you had fun that's super cool is it going to be

or are you going to do is it going to be like a recurring thing or is it a one one off venture for you

well it looks like yes we are in process of yeah negotiating more nice very good of course I

watched this space and when you're at the conference says look out for Naomi in the dressing black

behind the scenes right yeah yeah yeah I mean I definitely hope to have some art to this next

the vehicles are coming up would be very very cool I love that so let's get into that hey I usually

liked it and this is just like you know for format but also because I'm always super interested

like what is your how did you get into art what's your story you said on I listened to both of

your both artists freedom and the the one that you did a couple of weeks ago with us an hour

and you were mentioning in that and this is I mean you know we many of us have the same story but

you said that you've you've always been an artist you've always been living more on an art as an

artist what was your first like how did you what are your earliest memories of getting into the art world

I don't know I mean we're all kind of artists as children I guess because we're so

tapped in and close to our creativity at least most of us so yeah I mean I just really took

to drawing and making things so I guess yeah I just I kind of just focused on that and I had a

really big imagination and I loved books and like particularly photo books and picture books

so yeah I just I don't know I've just always was you know yeah it was kind of like the only

class that I could actually ever get an A in it makes it easier right makes it decision easier to

yeah so yeah I don't know it's great I got to it was clear you know I think it was an outlet too for sure

yeah yeah yeah I don't know I just I always did you know I think I entered maybe I entered

some art contest I don't know was it any yes sorry but I think I was like I got an award in high

school I think or something I don't know I just I don't know I just like art was yeah that was the

thing that I resonated with was there any point that you were like like there was like I want to be

this that you were like I want to be whatever I want to make Bitcoin Beachwear you know was there any

point where you were like I want to be an artist in whatever whatever type yeah I mean I always

I always just felt like I was an artist like I wanted to be an artist and I also wanted to do

fashion right okay cool I used to draw in like design clothes I used to make I used to make things too

yeah cool okay so it's been and did you then do the the formal process like going to art school

and stuff actually I did not do formal process however I did do a lot of like mentoring and

apprenticeship kind of things so one of the best ways to know right yeah I was really fortunate in

that if I wanted to learn something I would just go and figure out how to do it figure out how to

learn it like I was a furniture practice for a couple years oh wow because I wanted to learn

how to build things in like how to structure and foundation and so I just like you know

oh this guy knew a woodworker blah blah blah so I went like hey I want to look at it do this you know

nice it just worked out you know and then yeah that was in my early 20s so I purchased as a

a woodworker was really nice high-end like custom furniture I did a lot of standing wow oh cool

yeah you were allowed to use the sun paper yeah probably you're like 80% standing however it was

a great like it was really great you know yeah and then I I did I mean I was doing art at that time

too also filmmaking like I didn't go to proper college however I did talk to like a lot of my

friends were in the film department and so then I was able to talk to one of the teachers

or whatever she would just let me come in and do classes and then wow like I could I had to like

pay to get my film developed or whatever because it wasn't like technically part of the class but she

let me come for like a couple classes you just chombed your way in yeah so I was like

renegade brilliant school and then I would like make films with my friends cool I learned like old

school animation we like used to use a jk optical printer which now these things don't even

exist anymore because everything's done on the computer did you right but this was back where like

you would take pictures of the film of the like Frank yeah right drawing by drawing yeah yeah

yeah yeah yeah yeah absolutely this guy pen it Pimpinella you guys should look him up he's really

cool he does that kind of step he goes and takes old film and then he'll like color it and dry it

it's amazing it's really cool I mean I'm very detailed I can so I mean I see that a lot of this

on my feet and it's probably my algorithm and stuff because I'm interested in this kind of thing

but I just do see so much like people wanting to see the proof of work again you know and the more

kind of work goes into it the more impressive it is to people and the more you know the more attention

it gets so you know I can I've always known that you know handcrafted will see your resurgence but

it's I think it's just like particularly visible now I can you know oh yeah 100% but anyway I

was very DIY do it yourself figure things out make things like that's kind of an attitude I

grew up with because like yeah nobody was going to say yeah yeah yeah yeah that's way man

hello oh hello oh yeah I don't know if you went or if I went something went

yeah I got a few commissions you know for

the day prop kind of things for malls and big stores and then I even did a big thing for the

children's education department wow do kind of more sculptural kind of things and then that

actually it's being a props artist I really really really need to redo this intro man it's just

like you've added another like 10 feathers to your calf in the last 10 minutes oh yeah

dude me 20 years ago done in 10 minutes oh no but that's but you know but it's not just

getting old it's the interest I mean yeah of course you know experience too but you know certain

people stick to one thing and they do that it's you know the master of one kind of thing and then

there's other people who will take a bit of this and take a bit of that and apply what they learn

from this and put it into that and you know make something completely new in the process which is

why there's that phrase you know jack of all trades and master of numbers oftentimes better than

the master one you know because it's you can you can you can cross you know you can you've got

such a broad spectrum of knowledge and and that's super visible and I was in your work like you know

you know there's like I don't want to jump myself here but like you can see in your work how you do

reference your various you know creative branches with one another and that's super cool you know

it's a it's a very unique thing why thank you you're welcome

yeah so yeah anyway yeah basically I've been always doing this and it's been I mean I think it's

probably it's just it's been a creative journey

and then and that just kind of keeps leading me towards things and then you know like literally

I've had a photographic and a collage practice now for many many years you know so I just

keep kind of honing those yeah I was gonna I was gonna oh yeah sorry god no I just like keep

experimenting like those are the two avenues that I really continue with and keep yeah yeah

and that's you know partly I mean they do in a way they are quite you know they reference each other

they borrow each other's language right you know because in a way collaging is a form of

photography your your your quoting you're seeing something and taking a bit of that especially the

way you do photography a lot of your stuff is like multiple exposure things long exposure stuff

which has an element to me of of of collage you know yeah 100%

so how did you get into oh no I'm not gonna ask how you got into photography but um I guess I know

but um you bit you've been doing that for a long time as well right yeah well so okay so props

art I went I moved to hawano is 25 and okay there there really wasn't like much theater in Hawaii

so okay but however there was a lot of like production work like commercial film TV media that kind

of stuff so that's I got into the art department on like a commercial and then I started

meeting people and I started getting more work and I was in the art department

and going like hmm that looks kind of fun yeah I used to do some film work I'm kind of interested in

on it can you hear me I can hear you I'm not sure as Naomi is dropping out uh sporadically

sounds like it Naomi we can't hear you

I still know a pretend to be Naomi for that I'll just ask you some questions Naomi

where are you there she is Naomi hello hello can you hear me now yes we can yes we can

yes well um okay well uh yeah so I ended up hopping and jumping ship over to the camera department

ah nice cool and that took you and this is like in your in your like I guess by now late 20s or

something and you've been doing photography ever since and you worked with um I should get his name

now um but the guy from National Geographic is that correct I'll Chesley who was a photographer in

the 80s in for National he did a lot of jet

oh two it was a huge

yeah so now I'm sorry I didn't hear most of just that of what you're saying this now I'm afraid

after you mentioned that guy you like is your is your uh connection not very good

or something well well just reminding you're listening to the whole entire universe

which has space sometimes the universe has bits of planets and the galaxies and it also has a lot

of space so we're here trying to recreate that a little bit um no I'm only kidding um

this is uh maybe should I come back maybe as you know what's your what's your experience

of that is does that tend to fix things yeah try drop off and come back

okay and we lost unit right really I can see her well oh she a co-host she showed up

no just a listener just a listener boom oh no I mean we're gonna listen to your co-host invite

again she was earlier what's up high q I like in times where it's where I like very rarely looking

during these because I'm just like so zone now so now and in little long times I check out who's on

so good see you man thanks for the support what's up aunt yes indeed so this is the whole entire

universe and we are um have the honor of being hosted by the bitcoin app magazine the one and only

uh and uh yeah I hope you've all got your copies on their way maybe Father Christmas will be

bringing to you who knows that depends on whether or not you've been good uh what's the status

for that so no are they they they last I heard they were shipping right it looks like we got we got

Luna as a co-host I'm not sure yet um currently the magazines are they're on their way we it's been

a absolute logistics um hasn't been fun well so they were supposed to be here on like today but

they're not there could be here next week so I currently don't know if they're gonna make it out

in time for Christmas I think I might it if they I might still be able to get them up for US

people for the US pre-orders in time for Christmas but they're definitely not making it to Europe or

they well in many parts of Europe the many parts of Europe the main Christmas is January the sixth

so you're good well now I'm kidding but it's it's like a learning curve right and once you've you know

you've done you've done that once uh the next time round you have that experience and it'll be

smoother you know yeah or just part of the part of the um of the learning curve now needs requested

I see yeah they are coming from like cross border cross state so and I'm in a very small town

okay across the whole entire country yeah well I'm kind of like okay

you know this is was semi predictable but nonetheless it's been frustrating but the magazines are

done they are sitting at the trucker's warehouse and they are getting on a truck so

supposedly like today or tomorrow and you've had one in your hands right like a test print have

you know no ah because I have seen who's the lucky person who's had that he's been posting photos

in the printer that was Annabelle oh wow because I wanted to ask you don't they look amazing

because on the photos they look absolutely amazing look at it in the photos oh I can't wait

it's gonna be my mums who have been all like oh do we get one as well

yeah well she can look at mine yeah yeah yeah she just needs to unmute herself okay checking checking

checking is this working wonderful yeah huh and what do you sound as much clearer actually

I switched devices ah although we could still run in well you know what I'm going to

manifest that we get a clear signal for the rest of the show yeah exactly ride that ride the airwaves

man you know yeah that's right so you were telling us about the the the photographer the national

graphic guy what was going on yeah yeah pull chestly I did yeah it was amazing and then I also

studied with um this guy David Ulrich he actually studied with miter white and then he has written

the book zen the camera so it's more of like a mindfulness approach to photography right so I had

some I have like pretty solid two different backgrounds in photography and then I have all the

motion picture experience too right and you were you were doing analog of course I mean a lot of

that is 35 million so on yeah that's what I learned in I was yeah yeah they're during the transition

to digital it was weird it was so was I and it was really odd I kind of stopped actually um seeing

photography as an art form for myself we're using it as an art form when digital camera is bizarre

I remember being at a party and a guy had a digital camera and everybody just kind of like

felt like he was cheating he was basically just cheating yeah exactly because we all had to

choose like what to take pictures of and he didn't which is the main story right he could just

steal our souls has he wished yeah anyways yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah no me with the 35

mil because a lot of you oh by the way if you haven't dear listener if you haven't done so yet

you can check out Naomi's photography on Instagram right on Naomi Olson is that correct

yeah my uh my full name my first my first given name is by photography name and then see

as medicine is kind of like my fun bit quite hard I really like your your Instagram the photography

one I really like is you know you mentioned just now the books title the zen of photography or

something and this is so apparent I find in your work uh both of nature and of human beings like

that like that project you did with the blind people it's super beautiful and you managed to

like I find you capture people in such a like natural on a wears way uh super candid and then

you superimpose it with um with I don't know magic I guess you know and the the result is always

just super zen I really like the photography work you do

thank you on Nick thanks for checking it out yeah of course it's a passion it's a passion I like it

I mean lately I haven't been um taking that much but it is kind of just a spiritual practice you know

like what do I see how do I see things where am I going I was talking to us know how actually the

next project that I kind of I'm interested in is um photographing natural birth

oh that's such a good topic man it's such a good topic we have in on I have can speak volumes on

this one oh yes that's right that was that's good yeah yeah because we we did both like we did

the the the the first one like was accidentally then the hospital last minute uh nothing dramatic

they changed the rules two weeks later and it would have been it they would have been allowed at home

and then the second one was at home and then the the difference is just vast

vast sorry but aren't you the expert I know I'm not allowed to talk about this situation

yeah you know but I'm you know I'm doing the talking but I'm not the expert but I was there too

you know yeah I guess you really experienced it as well yeah yeah you were more like in the reality

of it than I was definitely because it's like my objectively speaking maybe

yeah no cool no that that sounds really dope yeah amazing

I mean we'll see it's a big timing thing and I mean I haven't really been searching out that

work actually I don't really have much time for it right now or I don't really see

for see that however it's something that you know if I get the chance to do I would I'd love to

so if anybody knows anybody who's having natural birth in the time he works out I'm here for it

do you even touch with you must be in touch with um uh what are they called

liosmoid you know the women that do that who loves you love your wife yeah midwife thank you

I did no one here in Mexico um and she did actually you know get some other people to reach out to me

however I just like the timing because you are like if that's what it's kind of like you it's kind

of like writing some sort of wave you know you just decide to go for it and then you're you're in

there you're in the birth process yeah and then it's like an interesting practice of how do I become

like how do I be the fly on the wall you know because you don't want to change the energy

right like or change any dynamics yet you're here to to be a witness you'd have to know the

couple right you'd have to know the people who are birthing because uh well yeah I mean you have to

talk to them a little bit for sure but uh but maybe not I mean you really it's just how do you

become that witness and so like unattached like perp you're just like you are basically just

a capture just a witness there's no I don't know how to describe it yeah I would love to see

what you what you made of that I mean going on you know the photography like the I mentioned again

the blind people project it so like incredibly respectful and you catch such amazing moments of

them um that I can just envisage that translate into uh what you're talking about now really well

so if you do do it I'd love to see it would be super cool yeah I'll probably redo my website

I kind of changed it to just be like I just have a few collections up and I was gearing it

towards selling prints however I don't know I kind of want to redo it again and and just have

kind of more of the work that I really am interested in what I do and not worry about selling

prints right I get to and how to slide into like um how did then the the collage thing come about

is that like dovetail from the photography thing uh no I don't know if it really does dovetails

from the photography the photography might dovetail from the collage okay okay like I've always been

making collages I was talking to as I know about this you know I used to just always make

collages I was making collages I would just collect paper scraps and I would just make collages

like it's kind of just a fun thing I would do and um you know and then I was like doing punk

flyers for friends and for and then you know and then between art friends of mine we would make

each other postcards and stuff like that it was just kind of a I don't know collage was kind of more

of a communication tool I guess like uh because I usually incorporate words in it too so there's

that yeah so it is for me it's a way of like having fun and communicating like ideas and

inspirate it's they're kind of little inspirations basically and is it with does the imagery

come first to you or the the text or do they kind of go hand in hand

hand in hand there's not really yeah each one kind of has its own way of coming into fruition

mm-hmm you know I'll get certain ideas like one I there was this shape that was created by um

paper that ended up you know like an old magazine that got stuck together uh-huh and then you

kind of peeled it apart and then it had this great effect and that became the inspiration for

the collage right okay uh-huh you know or then or sometimes I just pick out images photo you know

I'll be like oh I love this this and this you know and then it'll be kind of like oh how do

these colors or how you know how do they fit together and it's not just like a color thing I don't

know I I just have my way of doing it so it's kind of the way I look at things it's kind of encapsulates

not only color however like energy and feel you know so I don't know I that's how I fit things

together right and they do have like there is a very broad spectrum of different kind of like

energies and feelings uh to your to the collages which again I'm gonna I'm gonna um say can I

really love them they're really cool I love your collages and then some of them have like a

very calm uh nature to them some of them are super busy and lots lots going on you know lots of

colors and so on and so they do they do definitely you know tell that own story each one of them

um which is super cool and it's quite impressive I find yeah each one is its own unique little

story or or snippet or yeah and are you flipping through surf magazines and just oh I like that

and put that aside put that to the in the collage stack or yes I do I have I go through magazines

and then and you know in the past I've worked with like other magazines are different kind of

things but um you know after whenever like some stuff I've been through in my life the ocean

has just become so important and I was like okay that's it I'm just doing what I love and I love

surf magazines that I love so I'm gonna use it so um yeah so it's become the sea inspiration and

yeah and then I go through but I mean I find things all over uh if somebody sticks out to me like

lately I've been really into like sardine packages and oh wow

you make sure you wash them well yeah the branding yeah kind of cool like there's this one

like siren brand or so I don't know there's some really cool like uh seaspiring packaging

out there I've been pretty inspired by it lately so I don't know cool cool well good to hear

you're still doing those thing doing the collages because they're super cool and I think everyone

should own one I think I should start with that but yeah everyone should own one if you're one

of your collages or you do prints of them as well right yes I usually if you see me I do usually

sell little mini prints they're kind of like a spitting yeah they're like an in-person thing

I see cool I see you see what I did there you can go to a btc aloha dot shop um oh no actually

know that you're not selling them there at the moment I use that well I think I have a couple

still left on there but I generally sell like bigger stuff on my website and then okay so if

people are interested in looking at your collages how would they cut up there yeah okay cool

nice well thanks for the flood there on it thanks it's my job it's my job it's my job

art magazine exactly thanks for your collage and make sure to check out my website which is

Arnick Malcolm a and I can't see you

dot com um move check everybody else out yeah exactly like we're all here like let's check

each other out man that's what I mean that's what's so funny about um culture nowadays right it's

like we can always check each other out online like our online presence yeah yeah I remember

it's like it's like if you were checking somebody out it had me like in-person live yeah or in

magazine in actual magazines yeah or like go to the library yeah or ask people it was always like

ask people hey you know what's up with that yeah yeah and then see if you lived in a small town

screwed like I was it's got the the back waters yeah man so there's one cool video on your

Instagram where you're doing to watch this segue right where you're doing assembling a collage

which then magically becomes a bag hello yeah yeah thank you yeah magically becomes a bag yeah I

just so I you know it was a paper collage and then I digitized it and then was able to make a

bag out it's super cool and just like you can see how quickly you're doing that process like

this goes together that's nice and then all of a sudden it's a pack um and and you can see this

in like a lot of your a lot of your clothing stuff as well it's kind of got a collage you kind of

you know like that little surf dude with a Bitcoin behead and so on you know it's it's

speaking the same language that you have in your collage what's your what's been your approach

been to making your your your BTC aloha beachwear stuff yeah the Bitcoin surfers I mean I just

love that idea and I think surfing in Bitcoin have a lot of overlap so yeah it's just kind of

using symbolism you know a way to say things how do I say yeah I mean it's everybody gets like

surfing and then the Bitcoin sign is pretty like in your face but it's like how do I do it

it's in your face but oh and and and maybe not like super noticeable I don't know I'm just having

fun with it and I just thought like okay what's the next level what can I do with my art where

does this go on and oh I just started making thing and then I thought the little

surfer print would be cute like on an aloha shirt because I had I have a friend who makes a

aloha shirts here and so that was my but however she

so I had to kind of scour the dropship world until I found like a high quality and then

then I made it happen and I'm pretty I'm very happy with results this super cool and as I mentioned

briefly in in your when you were talking to us Noah there I had the pleasure of wearing the

silk shirt for much shorter than I would like and it was so nice man I'm really enjoyed

wearing that shirt it felt so good and yeah so they look great they feel great and you have them

like made in England right how did that come about how come in England yeah well it was because

of like drop shipping and connecting to Shopify and all these other reasons I mean ideally I would

like to find different it get more decentralized and create almost like a special club limited edition

however for now it's it's it's okay you know I can get product

what it doesn't what I really like because I made a couple of

you I'm afraid you're you're dropping out sporadically again just so that you know

have I there oh I know it's Naomi

I um

yeah we're gonna have to tell people that they need to make sure their connections

good it's not letting me now let me try disconnect and reconnect again

and this is intermission

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Naomi come back and request to speak

yeah she's not even a listener at the moment

hope you guys all doing well at home this is a whole entire universe which is like

an una yeah yeah yeah yeah hi una hi una

when una let me know when you you guys want to do a little I don't know if you want to do a

little uh lost their kind of uh a little lost their chat and and get get some of your jewelry

up on plebeian market I think would be is it's like super easy it's like once you like once you

figure it out it's super easy and then that's plug and play immediate and then uh you know if

you want to go beyond that I'm happy to help you guys like I you know show you BTC pay server

or setting up you know stuff on a website or something so thank you so much

Naomi are you on that platform selling your clothing no not yet um plans

what are you planning to uh maybe on there yeah I'd like to do something now sir I'm kind of

trying to figure out the next steps and where I want to go I I would like to actually

get off of Shopify so yeah I got off of Shopify I'm happy to Naomi if you ever want also to tell you

how I got off of Shopify and um I got I moved over to WordPress so I could delete customer data

who very nice hey what's up with square now because now they accept Bitcoin but it's probably the

same kind of well it's just it's KYC but I mean it right pretty sure it's super plug and play

maybe ask no maybe you could do like a one episode where it is actually you know helping artists out

with like uh more proifying that not the thing for you know sales purposes that would be super

that's a good idea we could do uh do a how to how to use spaces yeah that would be super cool

what are you guys saying listeners are you is there anyone interested in

in learning how to sell their art yay yo dig yeah digs you do you do well everyone

what up hike you Ariel girl fox GT 21 million

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mm hmm yeah yeah remember Amy's on here we got Marcell Marcell Marcell

Naomi do we have you back

oh no yes no you're back

okay oh hello Naomi one less thing known thing about you at least something that I didn't know

is that you also had a time as a podcast host during which you you interviewed the world champion

sirtha correct oh yeah wow that's pretty cool yeah what tell us about this oh you know

Prudjefries she was back in the day she was like uh

and she had really gone on a healing journey and um yeah and then I guess as part of my healing

journey I started a podcast and um yeah I got to interview her and connect with her it was great

nice how long did we do this for the your podcast

maybe too often on it's I mean I'm funny I do think I can do things for a long time but sometimes

things just now I just want to be on other people's podcasts and what you got two in the same month

right I know thank you big boy art maybe as magazine everybody should order a copy now

you're you're welcome to come and hang out with us here whenever you want so

absolutely so Naomi what's next up for you you've got so many uh so many things going on

what's what's your focus um leading to the next couple of years or if that's you know

if you can say that what's here what's what's the plans for Naomi's that's so um that's why

you know going back to work having a day job is really kind of a good thing for me right now

so I and luckily my job is in Bitcoin nice can you tell us what that is or is that a more of a

well we had we had kind of talked about it for but uh yeah I'm going to be going to be helping

with the conferences so oh yeah yeah yeah um and I mean to develop I mean I have more ideas

for clothes so um I actually been talking about uh with Asanoa so hopefully we'll be making something

um and then I'd like to get a few more of my ideas out there and just get more people

wearing my stuff even if I'm just you know like giving people some clothes

I'm working on that and then I have a few like collage ideas so I'm right now I've been traveling

in in between places so it's been a little bit challenging because

you know I've been in suits and boxes uh huh yeah yeah um however

what it's a way it's like I find it so yeah it's so good to have like a place to where you know

you kind of need to have that for me personally just a little bit of a kind of calm in your life

in order to be able to create like in terms of space and so on as well you know things set up and

blah blah blah I find when I'm like between places and things and so on that um uh I just don't

do any output at all yeah I mean I I have ideas that I'm kind of writing things down and you know it's

too in the next well this month I'll be I'm going to Miami Miami Beach and I'm going to

the idea is to put down some roots there so see how that goes oh have you lived that before

I have okay cool so it's the big return yeah it's full circle I mean the surf there isn't that good

however I can go up the coast if I want to surf yeah yeah and plus you were saying on us know

as thing that you prefer the smaller waves nowadays anyway these days yeah I'm not chasing any big waves

anymore so like I had a really lovely swim this morning uh wonderful I'm afraid I can't really

join in on the surfing discussion because I've like literally stood on the board once in my

life so on a surf board at least my bro was like my brother was like one of the best in England back

on the day he was like the first to do a 360 but myself I I can't show I'm in but I do have the

skateboarding background and there's a fair amount of overlap there for sure for sure um yeah all

right well what's next what else do you want to ask me I was going to you were talking to us

in the in the last one about about the uh and also actually with with rebel on that one um about

the similarity between surf culture and Bitcoin culture and again I can't chime in with a surf

culture thing but I was talking to a friend on here a fair amount recently who was big in the

in the New York skate scene back in the day and how like back in like the mid-90s to me the

skateboarding scene was so unique in the way that you could rock up to any city in the world

and you instantly have friends right there's like no questions asked do you both skateboarders

or you know skateboarders you're hanging out you can you've got a couch to stay on you've got

someone to show you the city you know um and I haven't really experienced that again um until I

you know uh especially in the Bitcoin art world you know and so I find find so much similarity

in these two cultures yeah for sure I mean I think one of the biggest things is the freedom

you know that is possible and also that you know kind of being decentralized but like

like you kind of out there like your own node however there's tons of everybody's like you know

there's tons of life in the ocean and we're all that's yeah sorry my response is a bit funny

because I you keep on dropping out so it's kind of hard to know I have to respond probably right

I'm getting the gist of it at least and that's good

and hopefully my internet will be a lot better too once I move and Miami

um you know is there anything that you have on mind that you would like to to ask know me

well I'm just really enjoying listening to you sound like uh a powerhouse you know like

go getter can I love it just really positive energy coming from you and kind of

yeah straightforward I love it like the sea has clearly treated you well and I'm sure it will

treat you just as well I love love that for you but you're moving to Miami and you know to just

like you're inspiring you're definitely like you know I don't know how old you are but you

said that you were old and so I imagine that you're older than me and to be just like

swinging in the sea and surfing is just I think that's just super cool I just I would love to

meet you one day oh we will meet Una we will right yeah yes um it was funny

because I feel like nowadays like I think I used to really push push push in fact surfing really

taught me how much how hard I was on myself and how much I pushed and these days I feel like

the power and everything is actually coming from me relaxing more and and aligning more and

clear so I'm pretty chill yeah I mean the sea is both no it's like crazy force and it can

to pull you under and kill you in seconds because it's icy cold and but it can also be this

kind of lavish warm you know it's like everything yeah warm shallow soft you know softness

this is just crazy to think of the fact that it's the same body of water all over the globe you

know that that that is the connecting element so to speak if I dip my toe in here then you know

I am connecting to Iceland I'm connecting to Malibu Beach or wherever you know all the places

that one has gone I think it's really lovely that you're you know creating like a whole line of

clothing with this in mind you know and I'm I'm sure that also what you're saying with like

taking pictures of of home births and that two births I think there's so many people that would

love that they just don't know how to ask where they can't afford it and I'm sure if you ask

around you know because you're just following your intuition there right that that is something

that you want to do and you know I think be you know I wouldn't worry about having to be like a

fly on the wall you know because this is like actually what a lot of women and families would

really want but don't know maybe who to ask or it's a big ask you know and be offered you know

this service to kind of like bring their memory of a home birth into this like really beautiful

artistic expression is just an honor for people you know so yeah I look forward to seeing that

as well if you you know are going to share that yeah I think what's really big right now for me

is this sort of idea of preservation maybe it is because of my age and like okay well I need to

preserve this experience in these things that I know and pass it along and preserve that because

that's I think important we don't want to lose that connection I've even wanted to actually

create like a whole hospitality business and buy up a bunch of like old

create these you know centers I guess like like you would go there on vacation at the same time

there would be local activities and things and they would you know try to have like farmed

to table food and try to have like little decentralized economies as best we can you know we're

Bitcoin is used so I don't know there's something right now where I guess

like I want to I want to like preserve all of the best from from the past

yeah that's what art does right

that's what art is really good at doing

and as as we're saying beforehand you know I think now where humanity is being faced with

so much kind of automation so much AI so much non-human in a way we're kind of like being shown

what it is to be human again I think we're kind of like some people already over the honeymoon

phase of tech you know yes of course it's amazing and we can do these international

spaces and we've got Bitcoin and all of this stuff you know but we're starting to to

realize the beauty of like human creation you know manual labored loved stuff you know and so yeah

and I think this it takes many forms yeah absolutely I agree with you

of course I do

speaking of that you're going to ask you early on Naomi and do you do I imagine you so right

I do I don't know

oh

what is so and but I mean I I probably you know somebody could probably do it better than I do but

yeah well I wouldn't be surprised if you'd be putting nifty at it as well you know with all these

other things that you're good at you know yeah well you know axanas have you guys seen her stuff

yeah yeah yeah yeah well tough with sewing her embroidery things are incredible yeah yeah I think

also work collaboration I'm looking forward to exploring more collaborations in the future

she's she's super cool as well and she's got this and I need to talk to about this uh she does

web hosting right with her husband um which uh I'd much rather do than via hosting uh or whatever

you know uh now that I've got all my my website in place uh it'll be so cool to do via them instead

yes I was just going to say I did help Ariel with her website and it's pretty good I did kind of

over my head I guess I don't know I think I mean I was starting to figure it out

but it's awesome yeah sweet I should check it out Ariel I haven't seen your your website for one

actually so I should head right over and check it out and also um yeah do if you don't know her

check out axana which is a five and then KSA and A um she does amazing uh embroidery works uh

Bitcoin and Brody works and she's super cool as well so uh do check her out um I would also like to

open up like if uh to the audience if there's anything that people would like to ask because Naomi

is such a fount of experience and knowledge you know be it you know now's a chance to to tap that

fountain if there's anyone that would like to yeah to ask anything

you

otherwise I was also Amy I don't know if you can hear what I'm saying but I've been super aware of

like because you're saying that you have your kids with you in the workshop when you're uh

when you're listening to the podcast I've been doing my very best it's not to say

expletives or talk about things that uh maybe aren't both boys so um but I've got uh Naomi I've started

a little tradition of like of doing of doing a verse for people I don't know if you've heard

the previous ones but I do a little rat verse for people and I wrote one for you and the car on

the way to town today uh and there's no expletives there's no expletives in it but there's a couple of

maybe adult topics that's not really but uh Amy if your kids are around tell them to go play

outside for a minute no I'm joking but yeah Naomi you ready have you ever had a rat verse written

for you before uh not a rat verse you've had poems poured upon you I'm sure

I have a songwriter I have a songwriter of course you have

well this isn't of that nature so you know you won't be blushing at any point during this one

but it goes it goes like this everyone get ready if everyone's going to beatbox hit me

so the guests I've got here today she's a veteran she's like they know me is Naomi

she is medicine the medicine that's way better than weadal cataman speedum fatumine

ritaline we get wetter in the sea it's a method that she is a professor in so get some fresh

a lower beach where and don't be hesitant I'm betting you'll be feeling the effects when you

have gone ahead and gotten in bottom line yes it sees the medicine

that's your rat verse Naomi what you're hired this could be something here on it I think

you know this is like the youtube channel well what could be something well these little

yeah I should assemble them all together do little beats yeah like I can pay you for that or something

you know I know you paid with your time and your attention and your great nature and your

and your artwork and your pregnancy the conferences what's that sorry you could have a donate

sats donate some sats yeah well there's wadslake yeah like the stripper on it you can be like

only wraps only wraps

Naomi you're going to be in solvados anytime soon I am manifesting that because plan B is at the end

of January exactly I might be there if all goes to plan so it would be cool to meet up

yeah let's all go I mean that'll be super cool beautiful that there is I had it I was wondering

whether there was an art show there because I hadn't seen anything and then I saw today that

House of Ralfus will be showing at an art show in plan B El Salvador so apparently there is one

um I'm just wondering whether it's too late to get in touch about that I don't think it's too late

there's still more than a month yeah I should get on to that you know who who want to speak to

about that I think Alessia is it really is she doing that as well okay yeah um okay sweet I'll reach

out to her that'll be cool and Tom will Tom will be there as well if I go I'll be going with Tom so

that'll be fun I love it the old crew in the house Ariel you need to get over as well Ariel needs to

go we need to figure it out yeah she's got wonderful them sale on her website she's got what sorry

she's got beautiful prints up for sale on her website some of the most beautiful prints so

uh actually a lot of us here have some

as support so cool speaking of which Amio would really like to get you up on this as well at some

point I've never probably spoken to you before but I would I'd love to have a chat about your work

at some point um if you're listening so consider this an informal book but yeah

I don't know who I've got up next week I should probably do I was thinking maybe Modio I might

ask him if he has time but we'll see I haven't confirmed anything yet so I will let you guys know

soon as I know something about that um yeah Modio has been super cool in like various conferences

and so I'm super supportive super helpful um real nice guy does great work um and so yeah

it'd be fun to get get him up and I promise we won't speak German throughout the durations

would be really mean

who don't have any final thoughts

yeah you're I'm feeling the pressure in this one man yeah sorry because because you've you've

established such a good um what's it called track record of like coming with with a like wrap-up

with it kind of takes a pressure of me a little bit I guess yeah it does and now you've done

your little verse and you just want to get out of here so you know wrap it up

no no no pressure to I was just wondering if you had anything to say to

I was just wondering about the clothes you do like what items can one acquire and if people

want us to buy them for Christmas would they arrive on time well yes they should arrive on time

if you order within the next say week or so um depending on course where you are

in the world if you're in a very crazy remote area maybe you're not but you commend and female

I do yeah I mean I was making a low-hush rose but then I was like oh I want to

did that um so I've got a couple things you know I've got some a couple bags I've got a couple towels

dresses and then I have a pair of shorts for men and then I have a few a low-hush shirts

and you got women's women's shorts as well no I do I have a one pair of women's silk shorts and one

pair of like women's silk pajama pants which I love oh that sounds great yeah you always wear

or not always but I do I have to like represent so yeah that's so dope are they silk as well

you can just you know throw them on at the beach too wow if you oh I guess you're not taking care

of the production but I just wanted to offer if you want to do some kind of collaboration and I

will be really happy to create some kind of jewelry with you know strips of of here in the silk

for you and with you you know that would be fine or or do you know like I'm like a brainstorm you

know once I get the material I'm like ooh what you know like I go off yeah well you know if you

have stuff that you have just got lying around then feel free to you know contact me was

under to me and we can maybe conjure up some magic together oh yeah that would be fun yeah I

love it you guys actually have a lot in common it was also like was a props maker and one of

one stuff and she when she says she's a brainstormer she's queen of brainstorming she's like

you know she's an idea master so and she'll make anything out of anything it's absolutely

it's stupid yeah and very oh you want me to continue I can go on for hours man no she'll she'll

see something in reverse engineer and make it better than the version she saw you know it's

like insane so yeah she's a good one to collaborate with basically thanks darling for my

love so just so with it hearing everything that you've been up to and I can't wait to see what more

you conjure up on this journey and I can't wait to see you and meet you actually it's going to be

fun it's so much about you absolutely yeah I can't wait to be able to get

the family out to those things man yeah and I'm not just like having to you know just be able to

afford getting out there and not being able to afford food where I am there it's kind of it's a

little taxing yeah look for to be able to swan in and get the hotel rooms for the family and stuff

come on everyone dinner on me exactly I see what you've got in the works here I like it

actually it's something that hasn't really been tapped on right there's got air BTC but travel is

that's an interesting yeah well that's I think it's happening already I think that air BTC should

you know maybe they'll go that direction so it'll be like a stop like you know book your flight

book your yeah I mean there seems to be a buzz and touch with them a while ago it didn't go anywhere

because I didn't have anything to offer him about like places here in Italy and so on but they're

very um contactable and very um like friendly people yeah no it's really cool I mean I try to

you try to what sorry oh I say I try to use it and then but then it's like oh I just

needed you know there's so many more other places that are

whatever they'll grow with time you know just like everything else but that like doing it by themselves

at the moment I guess people to sign up like try to get more hotels and people to sign up on it

uh what I wanted to put out there is that my big thing is like I would love to get manufacturing

within the Bitcoin community however the big thing is like printing on silk and cotton

hmm like getting printed like printing material natural printing process

I'm sure you've spoken to proof of ink

however for like what I'm doing I mean I know I could go to India and do cotton printing I

haven't really looked into silk but I do know people that go and get their close printed

and stuff in India and I'm sure I could try to convince somebody like

because that's the biggest thing and that's kind of why I did the dropship thing because

I didn't have to have like a big overhead and but I do want to eventually do like

limited edition

you

know me I'm afraid you're dropping out again didn't catch what you just said

so many pearls that we haven't caught I'm afraid I'm sure

that uh it's all good okay well thank you oh bye

that's all folks that's all folks but it is actually I mean we we do like kind of aim at the one

and a half hour mark on this one uh and we are conveniently sliding into one and a half hours

right now um so um but yeah man it's been such a pleasure speaking to you know me thank you so

much for for for getting me on actually

Nick and all of my friends down there um yeah it's always great when we get together and share

it certainly is it's great and I'm I'm glad that we're doing this thank you us and I was

for putting for organizing all of this and uh yeah creating a hub for us to be able to

continue you know connect on a weekly twice a week basis it's super cool uh and I love doing this

and it's super cool chatting to to lovely people like Naomi um and and yeah I guess until next

Tuesday and until plan B and until uh Vegas right until Thursday I will be on

Thursday at 12 p.m. and then Sunday at 12 p.m. wow dude you're working with the whole entire

universe on Tuesday you're a machine who got on Thursday I don't know but I should look at that

and do I need so much rilla I got rilla oh really yeah that'll be cool okay nice

we're gonna do my best day and then ock may on Sunday I believe he's a musician with the 2140 crew

oh I don't see it oh the English bunch yeah uh yep German English oh are they

yes or second I feel like they're I didn't know they're German as well French or really French

okay I don't know they're all they're just I just a great question I just I just

seen them putting things up in London that's all that's what I'm basing my knowledge on which is

yeah yeah maybe they're a little bit all over you you you okay 21 you UK 2140 crew so that

that'll be on Sunday so the Bitcoin art podcast is Thursdays and Sundays at 12 p.m. PT and then we

have the whole entire universe at 11 a.m. PT and then I don't know we'll see if Ralphie wants to

do a show and maybe we'll do a I don't know maybe we'll we'll adjust our schedule possibly or we'll

do a double double to you know day after two days in a row we could if Ralphie wants to do a show

maybe we do four shows a week whoa that's nuts wow you know building and they will come you know

yes cool yeah I admire your your spirit it's amazing thank you yeah of course I appreciate you

yeah thank you thank you for helping do this yeah of course it's at least I can do I know it's

cool man little slow to start but I believe if we keep going we will I you know I feel like it will

grow so absolutely absolutely cool I feel like a lot of people will listen to the podcast like

listen to the recording also which I feel like more people than I thought would are and that's

pretty cool oh really do you get some that I guess so well after it ends you can see like how

many people tuned in and yeah I noticed that like a day or two later like that number will

increase quite a bit so I think that's counting the people who listen to the recording I don't

know if they're listening to the whole thing but that at least like you know plays a part of it so

and also like usually that many more people listening then appear on the screen right I mean

do you you know look now it looks like there's what is that 13 people and then you check the

recording it's it was actually 50 you know yes I think that comes from people tuning in and

then dropping out so I think like a lot of people will hop in for five 10 minutes 30 minutes

it's not an intellectual through a handful of different people you know people will see it up in

the kind of Twitter spaces that are running and pop through so those people those people are just

flusies yes flusy tourists flusy tourists flusy not to be taken seriously not serious people

unlike us like flies yeah no it I mean my plan with this is world domination

and it got me up on this with that in mind you know yeah no wait wait like did that make you

build a matrix yes what else no it's so much it's so much fun getting a chance to just like listen to

and connect with people all over the place and hear their story about art I love that I can

listen to that every day all day yeah super interesting isn't it great to hear from you Naomi I

hope you're getting some waves done Mexico we'll throw I'll throw some heavy stuff in the sea here

so yeah great all right then I appreciate awesome and thank you so much man Naomi thank you so much

we'll listen to thank you guys so much everybody um wonderful rest of their day

yeah man have a great one take it easy people

who says I hold on to you unless was on a welcome and who less takes and as no one thank you now me thank you

all right guys take it easy speak soon bye