NBA Play-In Tonight, WNBA Draft, WWE Raw before WrestleMania, Caleb Wilson Is A Freak - 4/14/26

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It's Chris Vernon.

Show, welcome, welcome, welcome, welcome, welcome.

It's a Tuesday, April 14, 2026 edition of the show.

Today on the show, NBA basketball is back as we have some play-in games

that are going to be going on tonight.

We will go through both of those and what is on tap.

The NBA has also set its draft day.

We'll have the lottery first and then we'll turn our attention towards the NBA draft.

We will get to all the news and notes of the day.

It is a Tuesday.

It's nice out of smile.

Let's do it.

Turn it up.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

I hope everybody's having a good day.

All right, bunch of good to all the show today.

Not the least, which is the NBA play-in games are going to be beginning tonight with two different games back to back.

Of which I am actually quite interested in.

We'll get to that and everything else that is going on.

Before I get to anything.

Welcome, John Roser to the show.

John Roser.

Ray Kay, the Cologne Ranger.

The Bodies Freight band is in your side.

Johnny Backpull, Johnny Bearcat.

The Brem Roser.

John Asparagus.

Johnny Neckarp.

John Lance.

Dr. Thunder.

He's John the Polluter.

He's John Sweeney.

Oh, John.

What up?

What up?

Devon Walker's here.

He's the microphone man.

Clarkson.

What up?

What up?

What up?

Devon Walker's here.

He's the microphone man.

Clarkson.

Dr. Thunder.

Robo.

I don't believe in you.

Is he missing or performing?

No, Richard immersion orليma elbows.

Okay.

Returning the mirrors here to the microphone man.

You have Jodie.

Whatever you have to do.

It's a great technology being Pat.

You have to've played the ball.

I can't perform my reserve.

Can you believe that?

Well, then.

Do you think I need to think?

Should I do this?

I thought you were younger?

You don't need?

Well, you've had an accident.

But it's my priority.

I don't know.

You know what?

Dad, do you get a sua ballot box?

Come on out.

Jeg Omar was using your blue jersey.

基本 shimmer.

I trust that yes.

runs for the same for his cardinals. I am not happy that the team's not any good, but

at least that's good. At least that is something for us to get excited about. Last night I ended

up having a record. We were recording the mismatch last night. So it was not a night that I was

able to pay attention to anything. And we left the show yesterday. We talked about how the NBA,

WNBA draft was going to be going on. And this Aussie food was going to be going number one to

be reunited with Paige Beckers. I did see that took place. I also mentioned about UCLA,

the women's team that smoked everybody and then just crushed South Carolina in the National

Championship game and that they could have possibly six first round picks in the WNBA draft. Like when

I clicked on that best available, whatever they ended up a five. Five first rounders on one team.

And then six overall, right? Yeah. Yeah. And then like and somehow some way they still get like

bad press. The clip that I saw the most from last night. The commissioner. She's just the worst,

huh? Yeah. She's the worst. Nobody likes her. No one. Serious. Like her whole like her whole

like that. You know, if I was a man, I wouldn't get asked that quite like, what are you talking about?

Yeah. It wasn't even a weird question. Yeah. Like why even say that, bro? Why even let that come out

of your mind? But that was the clip to what they I swear to God that leak cannot get out of its own

way. No. Right. They got so much success. They got fun young players. People like Kayla Clark.

People like games of race. People like Beckers. People like all these players. They like women's

college basketball. They get excited about them getting drafted, whatever. And then like the most

viral clip is your commissioner being a. Jeric. It's like aren't you the one nobody likes?

Like get out of your own way here. I think it's nothing. I feel like she has no awareness either.

Like why people don't like well, especially after they got all the thing that would have made them

unlikable to a to a average sports fan is if they would have had like some kind of terribly

prolonged lockout or a strike or whatever. It's like, oh my God. Things just finally got cracking

and instead now you're going to do a work stoppage and all this stuff because that always like

that turns everybody off, right? We've been through it in baseball. We've been through it in times

before. And that never goes good for anybody involved, right? Even if you're on the player side,

wait, nobody's ever on the owner side. But even if you're on the player side, it's like,

hey, man, just play, right? But they got through that. And like everybody ended up on the other

side of that, right? I got through that was all contentious and everything. And it's like,

you got through that and now you got all these women that are being drafted into the WNBA.

Including our boy, Oh, Max's sister, by the way, they made history last night. Oh, Max's sister

got drafted last night. First sibling. And people have a real awareness of these players too.

Right? Because women's college basketball has got so much bigger. And maybe I'm wrong,

maybe I'm wrong about that. But I'm saying this as someone who does not follow the WNBA,

extensively. I mean, I'll watch the playoffs and I'll watch the big games. I'll obviously

when the Caitlyn Clark thing was cracking, I was keeping up with that. But I swear like, why?

It is somewhat reminiscent, honestly, of the NBA, which is, and Jacobi and I talked about

this last night when we recorded, it's like this last fourth of the season, the void was filled

with stories that like none of them are good, right? Like it's like, okay, there's so much non-competitive

basketball that is going on that that void has to be filled. So what was it filled with? Yannis

in the box and an investigation, tanking and how are we going to fix tanking? And who's going to

get fined for tanking the lottery and how, you know, what we're going to do with that? Obviously

before that, it was the all-star game. I mean, it's just like, and now it's the 65 game rule.

And always it going to get appealed and as Luke are going to be eligible. And what do you do about

Kade Cunningham? And it's like that the void is just filled. But like, that's the thing. This is like,

to me, this is like this grand night of celebration. They got passed all their baloney. And instead,

it's like, why is this up? Why am I watching the commissioner have a terse exchange with a

reporter on the night of the WWE? This is just bizarre. Get out of your own way. Seriously.

Like before that, the conversation was, how do you let your, how do you let your franchise

player decide they're going to draft your girlfriend to be on the team? That was a conversation for

a little bit on the timeline. Which is, it's like, how do you let that happen? It's like, oh,

which is totally legitimate because as we chronicle the yesterday, this is something that we have

not been through before that we know of. I'm sure it has happened, but not with like this high

profile where it's like, you can't break up. Or I mean, you can, but then you got to be on your,

you gotta, you gotta, what else got to go? You gonna get traded? I get traded. What's happened?

I mean, there's nothing weirder than having to be in your, with your acts in the locker room.

Right. Yeah. And they are in their early 20s. And how many relationships in their young 20s,

right? Yeah, but in fairness, they stayed, they stayed together while she went off. Yeah.

And one of them was in college. And that's where it breaks. You, we all, we all, we all in the

break. We've all been there. Yeah. Everybody, well, one of them goes off to college and then,

oh, no, we're going to stay together. Then it's like after about a month, everybody's like,

you know what? It kind of stakes me having to come home and call every night. Yeah. You know,

mean, yeah, that's like, that's like, so I'm saying that they made it through that like long

distance. Maybe it's, maybe it's built to last. It's meant to be. Maybe it's meant to be, right?

Anyways, anyways, uh, yeah, I thought that was so crazy last night. And so that,

well, that was going on on the, you, you had recommended that we turn on WWE Raw simply because

WrestleMania was coming up this weekend. And maybe something would happen in a lead up to

WrestleMania. Is there anything I need to know about? Cause I am going to watch WrestleMania.

It was, I always watch. It was kind of a dud of her leader. I thought I'd never have more going on.

You had the old but famous contract signing. But you guys were texting me. This text came in while

I was recording about Roman race. Oh, it's just the aura of Roman, bro. He walked out in the,

and I'll the fact that everybody walks out. He's pointing up in the, but he, is he involved in

anything big? Yeah, him versus point. Okay. But it's been a bit of a sudden. It would be like

super personal because like, Puk was like, your dad is just appointing you. The last night,

Puk's like, I'm, I envy you. I envy you, Roman. I envy you. I'm so sorry for seeing what I said

about your dad. I'm like, shut your ass. I'm, I gotta be honest with you guys. I have never,

never do all of the outside of when he like did the sit down thing and he quit.

I had never found him interesting. I just don't care. He doesn't do anything to me. He doesn't

do anything to me emotionally. I don't care. He, I don't, I've never cared about him.

I don't understand it. I've never got it. What is it? It's a look to look. I just don't know.

I don't mean that his song is fine. And I know he's a good talker, but it's like.

He does a good intro. He's a, he's a, he's always come off as a colossal prick that I just don't

care about. You know what's crazy? They say in real life, he's so nice. Yeah. Yeah, I just don't

care about it. Well, he's, he's screwed. Dad, what's the line? Don't leave while you're hot

that's how may screwed up? That's how may screwed up. And he, he was, he left while he was hot.

He got a, the hissy fit and I just never cared. He doesn't do anything. I don't care if he

wins or loses. He doesn't like the whole bit of wrestling is you got to pull my emotional

heartstrings. I got to care about the outcome. Yeah. And I never care about anything with him.

I never feel good when he wins. And I never care if he loses. They tried to do that with the

one. He did like this, you know, this 15 minute pipe bomb last week to make people like,

like you, like, he did all the Pat McAfee did that. He was like going on everybody.

Yeah, I saw that. He tried to like make, like, try to pull it out of you. And then it like,

it pulled out you for a week. And then this week, he's like, Roman, I envy you. Roman, I envy your

family. All right. I envy that you said that she has a silver spoon. And the big thing is Cody

Rhodes and, uh, Orton that's going to be so broke is, but that's the, that's a big thing. But

it's Matt is McAfee in one corner and jelly roll in the other corner. Jelly roll. Man,

shout out jelly roll. Just do milk it, milk it for as long as you can. Unbelievable. Jelly,

do jelly rolls playing Vaught Hemingway with Post Malone. He is. Yeah. They are. Wait, wait,

I'm playing it. Oh, miss. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Wow.

What happened? WWE superstar post Malone is doing a bunch of colleges. Oh, he's doing June 5th.

Yeah. The big ass stadium tour part two. Yeah. He's also going to be a WrestleMania this Saturday.

If you give out that post Malone and jelly roll. Not post Malone. Post Malone also putting out a

40 song album coming soon. Is that true? Do you think the country? I don't know. Okay.

I also too. Something for you to look forward to. You got I show speed.

It's going to be a part of it. It's going to be a six minute tag with a versus the Uso in him.

Oh, what's his name? Almost killed him last time. He tried to do this. Braun Breaker.

Yeah. Oh, yeah. He really almost killed it. He had to go to the hospital.

That was a real colossal air and judgment. Yeah. But no, like Braun Breaker. That is not the

guy that you want to be interacting with. I show speed. You think yeah. Like,

there's some of these meatheads. They don't know that it's not. You're not really supposed to hurt

the person. You know, I mean, Brock Les is one of the two. Yes. You think you're like,

Goldberg was that too. Everybody always hated Goldberg. Like all the wrestlers hated Goldberg

because he like for real trying to hurt you. They think, you know, this is,

isn't that supposed to be? No. That's like that. It's like that vid I showed you the original

Jamie Foxx comedy show where he said that he's telling the whole story of why he and

LL Cool J hate each other. And he's like, this dude really hit me. And I had to tell him,

you know, we ain't really playing a football. It's on the set. Oh, yeah. He's really trying

to fight me. And I was like, we acted. That's what we're doing. We're acting. We're not in a real

game. No, bro. You have to let him know. I will say to your boy, the one that you don't hate,

don't know like Gunther. Him and they're trying to, you know, he had a whole like legend killer gimmick.

Yeah. You can't go from ending John Cena's career to wrestling Seth Rollins or WrestleMania.

Like they want to end his career. They're not going to end Seth Rollins career. That'd be cool.

I want another, another note for people that don't have the ESPN unlimited to the first hour

of maintenance going to be free on the ESPN. Oh, okay. So that's something for the people

who look for you. Yeah, maybe, maybe the expectations for maybe right now. Everybody's down on it.

They're right here. Okay. They're right here. All right. We do have basketball that's going to be

back in action tonight. So here's the deal. Would you agree that 90% of NBA fans would prefer to see

the Charlotte Hornets advance rather than Miami Heat, right? When did they 90?

Yeah. Anybody outside of Heat fans? Yeah. Who outside of Heat fans?

These are Kyle Rickrolls. Who outside of Heat fans would rather watch Miami playing

than Charlotte? Charlotte has been, they've been a vibe, right? They've been a wave

over the court, especially over the course of the last half of the season. And they got

La Mello and they got the presumptive rookie of the year and they got Brandon Miller and they

like they got fun players, right? Kobe White in their edition at the trade deadline,

et cetera, et cetera. Um, I'm worried though. I'm worried. And this is the reason I'm worried

about this because the Heat and like Spulstra, they're, they're not the ones you want to see

in a one game set to try to move on. They played their way in three years and

a row. Like they're always in this spot and they get through it, right? Because you got to

play him in a one game set and they have vets on their team. They've got got like, they've lived

here. They've lived in the play in and I'm reading all the stuff leading up to it. It's like all

these vets talking about the play in game and how it's like it's especially in in the 910 game.

It's like this is the closest thing we have to the NCAA tournament and this is the kind of,

you know, where understanding that every possession matters, understanding how you have to cherish

the ball, understanding that a turnover could be a five point swing in a game, all that kind of

stuff. And so now you have like a team that's lived in the play in coach by Eric Spulstra who's

going to get to prepare for one team against them. I hope I'm wrong about this. I really do.

Right. I hope I'm wrong about this, but I'm nervous because look, the whole every possession

matters. You've got to cherish the ball is not the, that's not the kind of kind of kind of game

that you necessarily you want the freewheeling. Let's go up and down. Let's let's play 100 and

134 to 129. Right. That's the kind of game we want. But this could be a real coming of age.

And well, Bella could pull this off and play great. I mean, he's the biggest star in the,

in the series in the, in the game. There's no question. He's the biggest star. So be a star,

bro. No question. But I mean, I bet that you're going up against like, forget Tyler hero and

Norm Powell and bam out of bio and again, it's Eric Spulstra. I'm just, I wish they were playing

somebody different. Right. I wish they were playing somebody different than Miami because

their thing ends tonight. Like that's, yeah, there's a team everybody wants to see play the

pistons. Yes. Right. The best case scenario is that they win this and then they beat the loser

of Orlando and, uh, yeah, and the 76ers. That's right. Who do you think has a better chance of

beating Orlando, Charlotte or Miami? Now Philly's got to beat him first, but like, I mean, we want

Orlando to lose. Yeah. We do. Right. Do want Orlando to lose. Charlotte, you're better. If you

go by regular season, Charlotte, you're better chance. Charlotte with three and one against Orlando

in the regular season. Is that right? Orlando with three and one against Miami. It's just so hard

to judge by these, it's just so hard to judge by these like outcomes because when Orlando

swept Miami, but all of these are like, it's so hard to know the circumstances. You have to go

back and look at all of these individual games when they happen. Right. Right. Who was playing in

these games? Yeah. Right. Because like Philadelphia was down guys when they beat Orlando earlier this

year. Yeah. Twice, but they also lost by 41 to Orlando in November. Right. So. And it's a one game

playoff. You never know what's going to happen. It's like an NCAA tournament vibe. You know what I'm saying?

Right. Yeah. So you got heat ornids tonight. And I think we have a carol out of McLean. Well,

if you can't get pumped up. Do we have a carol out of McLean? Isn't it carol out of Mike? It's Mike.

Why would you call him? Yeah. Carol out of Mike. That is. This is just

carol out of Mike has gotten everybody pumped up for the Charlotte Hornets tonight. What up, party

people? I got a question. You ready to show up and show out for your Charlotte Hornets as they enter

the play. So wherever you add in the world, I need you to take the phone. You gotta stand on

and do the carol out of it. Turn the volume up real loud and show us the person next. Come on. Let's go.

I'm going to go in the carol out of the world. I'm going to go in the carol out of the world.

I'm going to get you to go in the honeybee so they can do this dance right here with me.

Come on. Come on. Get the f**k out of there.

It looks equally old to go in the carol out of the world.

Oh, he's throwing his monopoly money very old.

Don't have money, Carol out of the world.

Let's go, bro.

You know what to do, Hornets fans.

He has to walk the team out tonight.

Like, we need a carol out of Mike.

Have they embraced him in a big way?

And the carol out of the world.

Do you know the panthers did? The panthers had him perform the song.

Yeah, I'm one of the games.

Wait for his out of four game, perform a hat song.

I feel like it's only right, bro.

I've told you guys many times.

That's my, that's my favorite all-star game for sure.

Charlotte. I love Charlotte.

Underrated fan base. Underrated city. Underrated.

I love Charlotte. I did.

I love Charlotte. I like Charlotte.

I thought it was so fun.

You know, I even shouted them out on the mismatch about.

Maybe last summer.

I shouted out that story about me and Roser.

I still have the video somewhere.

But Roser and I took him over.

Charlotte was one of those cities.

Much like, you know, you hear about Texas.

You hear about Kansas City.

Like, these places that fancy themselves as having amazing barbecue.

And so me and Roser went to this place called max speed shop.

And I'm like, I'm going to film a video there to talk about how this barbecue is crap compared to Memphis.

And blah, blah, blah.

And then Roser and I went there.

We ordered like everything on the menu that this place in Charlotte.

And I saw it was like, all right, pull out the camera.

And I'm going to taste test this stuff as we go on.

Bro, everything we got there was unbelievable.

And I was like, it's so good.

That was like, this video is a disaster.

I can't understand it.

It was so good.

So anyways, I told that story just in passing to Jacobi on an episode that we recorded last year.

Bro, that place sent me the biggest box ever.

I'm talking hoodies, t-shirts, hats, every barbecue sauce they have.

I'm like, you know, max speed shops.

Off the chain.

I love this place already.

No, I love it, bro.

And my best friends were from the Hornets.

Oh, they do.

All my people.

I should have brought up my Hornets hoodie for today.

Like, I love Charlotte vibes and people.

Memphis number one, Charlotte right now.

Well, that was for sure.

That was the most fun of the all-star game cities.

Yes.

That was the most fun.

For sure.

We saw so many people.

Super.

All kinds of people.

Honestly, like everybody was just in the same small area.

That was great.

Plus, that was like, what a time to be alive.

That's the year of the John Jeren both in the rising stars game.

Like that whole thing was great.

My column was in the skills challenge, really.

Oh, yeah.

That was the last my column of the year.

Yeah, it was fun.

That was a fun year.

And that Hornets team is way fun.

There's nothing.

I mean, what is fun about the heat?

And I believe.

I know y'all, y'all's favorite word is,

it's going to be a what?

A Hornets nest tonight.

I even hope so.

I mean, come on now.

Play our best more, Charlotte.

Oh, it's going to be, yeah.

It's going to be lit.

It's just a young team, man.

They're super young.

They're in the last week because this is what they do.

They drag you down.

They're going to make them uncomfortable.

Right?

That's what they're going to do.

You know Miami.

Yes.

You know what he's going to try to do.

Because zone your ass up.

They're going to run like all these tricks up.

You remember, you remember a couple of years ago.

They played Atlanta in this deal.

This guy threw like five different defenses at Trey Young

and I'm like, oh my god, this guy is in hell.

Yeah.

He just every time he saw a different look.

And it's like, that's what he's supposed to do.

And it's like, Lamello is going to,

there's going to be a moment where you see Lamello like,

pick up his triple 35 feet from the basket and be like,

what the hell is going on?

He's going to just shoot it.

He's like, I got a time that,

a spokesman comes out of a timeout,

like midway through the second quarter in a one-three one

or something.

I know what the world is this.

I know.

Look, bro, we got a roof for the horns, though, man.

It was 2021, Grizzly vibes.

I'm with it, man.

Well, and then you got Blazer's sons,

which again, we're just looking at this

through the prism of who could put up a better fight

against San Antonio between those two, right?

Because this is for the seventh seed.

This is unlike that first game.

That first game, somebody, you know,

they're going to have to play again.

But this one, you get locked in to seven.

I kind of think the Blazers will put up the better fight,

don't you guys?

I think so, like, because they guard so much better.

They scrap on defense.

They got too money.

Come on.

And they got Drew Holiday.

And they got, you know, Donovan Klingin,

you know that joke, or a goonter.

He's going to try to go after Wembee.

Yeah.

He's not going to back down.

They got a bit of pit bulls or rock,

like a little bit of dollars.

And they do have a, well, they got, you know,

they can play his time more.

He's, can he still give me 10 minutes?

Give you 12, 12, 13 seconds.

They do have a bunch of big guys on their team.

They do.

They do have a bunch of size, right?

You know what I mean?

If you're having to go up against Wembee,

like, and that's the thing I worry about.

It's like, I mean, you could see Wembee

getting 2,000 mark Williams in the first two minutes of the game.

And then it's like,

Wembee looks five feet taller than literally everybody else

on the Suns for the rest of the game.

It's like, I mean, unless you're going to try that Malawaku,

you know, they really,

they slow burned him all year with the Glee.

They might mess around putting Dylan on him, bro.

They'll put Dylan on it.

He'll be on, no.

Well, tonight,

look,

he'll do something dirty to Wembee.

You know what I mean?

Absolutely.

No, they're not playing them though.

No, they made it through.

I'm saying, oh, no, tonight, you know what's happening.

Oh, yeah.

I mean, it's minus 5,000.

And then he and Avdia get into it.

Oh, first.

Minus 5,000.

The first time.

There's just no way.

No, he's going to do something at the beginning of the game.

Yeah.

Mark my words.

You guys know,

you guys know the way this goes with Dylan.

And he's going to, he's going to draw Avdia.

Yes.

And he's going to push him or he's going to grab him

or he's going to do something right at the very beginning of the game.

He's going to try to,

and Avdia's kind of got an edge to it.

You know what I mean?

Yeah.

So I don't think there's any way they don't end up

in a tussle somehow.

Yeah, I'm not talking about a fight.

But I'm talking like no,

I'm going to handle up on the ground.

Yes.

Dylan's walk steps over.

I'm telling you this.

Yeah, that kind of thing.

My prediction is we watch this game and wish

that we are getting to see more of these two teams play against each other

because Dylan is going to try to punk somebody out.

Yes.

And that,

and Avdia's not a,

he's not a shrinking violet, man.

No.

You know what I mean?

He would.

He's one of those guys that he's going to go.

So that one,

that actually is going to be fun.

But I do,

it's just a weird thing.

If we're,

look, I think they're both either,

either of them will probably get mauled by San Antonio.

For sure.

But I do kind of think that the Blazers might be able to put up

a little bit of a better fight.

I think because they got,

they got some,

they're probably not,

I'd be surprised to be there of one twice, honestly,

against the spur.

Huh?

That's what I'm saying.

Yeah, give it one game.

Right?

Yeah.

I think the Blazers,

like just a defensive,

I think for the entertainment value,

the sun should win

and try to guard Wimbee and do something.

Yes.

But if you want like real,

like physical play on basketball,

they got more fun players.

They got Booker.

Yeah.

Right.

Booker could have a 48 point game.

Yeah.

Maybe Jalen Green goes off one of the games.

So if you want entertainment value,

I go suns.

But if you want like, you know what I'm saying?

Just a,

somebody that push,

push the spurs a little bit.

Also, we need the suns to lose.

Yes.

So trouble.

One of these,

I'm saying one of these has to lose.

Yeah.

Either Orlando or Phoenix,

in order for the Grizzlies to get another draft pick

and for that thing to be able to,

have a chance at a top four pick.

We're going to need one of those two teams to lose.

And,

I mean, look,

it sounds like the,

the warriors were more than likely going to punt the thing.

So the Clippers who,

they don't have their pick anyway,

they're going to win.

And,

if the suns can get beat by the trailblazers,

I would not like their chances against the Clippers

in a one game set.

That's just not who you want to see.

Yeah.

And you want to talk about one guy

that Dylan Brooks can't get under his skin.

He said it's his lightweight.

Just play basketball bro.

Just play basketball bro.

He told him to just play.

Just 500 told him.

Dylan Brooks just played,

he said he tried to pinch him.

Just play basketball bro.

He said he tried to pinch him.

Just play basketball bro.

Just play basketball bro.

Just play basketball bro.

I mean,

also that Clippers team,

I was looking.

There we go.

31 and 19 since a calendar.

since a calendar turned. Yeah. Pretty good. Yeah, they've been cracking, bro.

And it's called the numbers. I saw somebody posted collage numbers and it's like

damn, they're almost 50, 40, 90 like since like this season, like him playing in

games. Like I'ma find it. Oh, he's got a he's got a 14 ball NBA case. He has one.

I mean, he's not going to get there, but he's got a case. Hey, to your point,

then, about the season that he has had this year, this is kind of crazy. So I

did this whole bit last night on the show about how my inclination is to believe that

history is not going to look back fondly on the fact that a player just had the

second greatest PER season ever recorded, led the league in rebounds and assists and

got third place in MVP. I think history is going to look back on that

poorly. Yeah. I am not telling people that they are wrong for voting

Shagel's Alexander, who is totally deserving or Victor women Yama, who is totally

deserving. Those teams won 64 and 62 games respectively. And those guys were the

best players on their teams and amazing, amazing, right? There's not a bad choice

in this. I'm just saying when you go back and look that the greatest seasons that

have ever been played, it's like the boredom of Yoke, it's amazing nature has taken a

hold to where I really believe that if you put his statistical achievements of this year,

next to anybody else's name that had not done it before, it wouldn't even be. I mean,

it's outrageous. It is outrageous to lead the league in rebounds and assists and the only

PER season in the history of the NBA that was better than this one was him in 21-22. That's it.

It's a second best season ever. Like the other seasons are like,

Yoke, Yannis, Wilt, Jordan, LeBron, Wilt, 15-16 Curry. It's all the seasons that you can

crazy. It's all the great seasons in history. Even if you want to say you can poke holes in

that stat, okay, then why does it line up with these? When you think about the greatest

statistical seasons that anybody's ever had, and it's second all time, this year SGA season

is actually 24th all time to 24th best season ever. Wembee's is 41st and I went down to see,

I didn't even mention this last night, but I did write it down because I went down to see

if there's anybody else like this season, whose PER, like the statistical profile matches up

to all-time greatness or whatever, like of the all-time great seasons. And so I said, Yoke,

it's your second all time. This season is SGA is 24th all time. And again, it's just one stat.

Wembee is 41st all time. Interestingly enough, the only other guy, and now I might have missed

somebody. But when I went down to try to look for 25-26, Kauai, this season, 96th.

Jordan, put it up. The numbers, bro. 96th. There's a 96th best PER season in NBA history.

Is this year's Kauai line. That is why he's been so good.

28 points of game, 51% from the field, 39% from Trayland, 80% from Free Throw,

6 rebounds, almost 4 assists, 2 steals. Like they said, it's probably one of his best season of

his career. And he's had damn their MVP season. Unbelievable. Like Kauai been on another level

when he played when he was playing basketball. Unbelievable. Like he's real. Yeah, not the guy you

would want to see in a play. No. He'll drop 45 against the U.S. to the career. You know what I mean?

Yeah. With that line drive jumper. He's I have freaking goes in. We seen it. Yeah.

We seen it. Oh, there was a stretch where there was a stretch where he had a case. And this is

prime LeBron and prime Katie that he absolutely had a case to be the best player of the world.

Certainly because of the defensive side. Yeah. One top, what top three, four? Is he top four?

We're talking about those last year San Antonio that Toronto year. Toronto year, bro.

He won two defensive player in the year.

Is he taught with what he would he's he top three two way players on league right now,

Wimby. Uh, Kauai. J. A J. J.

LeBron. No, it's S. C. A. It's not. Clampy though. What? He plays good.

S. G. A. It's not even the top five defender on his own team.

But he like, that's like a top student of top still. You know, you're though, isn't he?

I mean, you, you look, I promise you, John Merant comes down the court. He'd rather see S. G. A.

than case on wireless Alex Caruso. Probably J.

William's Lou Dort. I mean, he's not even in the top five defenders on his own team.

Yeah, he was just yet hungry.

There's more than a half steal the game.

You're a good two way player, bro. Come on. Give me some credit.

Alan Iverson did get a lot of steals. That is one thing you see.

J. A. said that he did. I ran across Iverson's numbers like a figure two ago.

And he did. Iverson's had a lot of steals.

Yeah, that's not S. G. A. He's the only thing agent.

You know, sit down. I mean, unless you want to say,

Dioca G. Oh, my God. Right. Traffic. Oh, I mean, they're not just not what they're known for like Luca.

I mean, there's not what they're known for. By the way, is he for the right out of the tunnel,

like Stone Cold? Who? Puka? They're saying, bro, he for the right out of the tunnel.

I don't. Dude, this is the conspiracy. You know, we love conspiracies.

I'd be stunned if he played games. He didn't really go over there to get an injection.

Whenever they see his kids, he's coming back. He's been playing, he's been playing this game.

Well, you don't, if that hamstring kill us, if that hamstring is as bad as they said,

it was, then there's no way. I was watching the game when he went out. Yeah,

there's, it dude's got bad hamstring. I'm just saying, bro, conspiracy.

People just, just, just with their saying, bro, they said he want to go see his kids.

So he went over there, see his kids before he went on this playoff.

Bad hamstrings. Yeah. Bad hamstrings. This has happened a lot.

You know what I'm gonna tell him? Bad hammies. You know who told us?

Nico Harrison.

Oh, you're gonna say 20 out.

Hashtag Nico was right.

Huh?

He's late never way. Was he late never early? Was it early, early, never wrong?

Or something? I don't know.

That's what I saw.

The Nico was right.

Oh, I think, bro, I think he's gonna play.

I mean, if he plays, everybody's gonna be chuddling over to Spain.

Every time there's a, everybody's gonna go to Spain.

Every time there's a hamstring issue.

Because there's like three days.

What are they doing?

What are they doing to hamstrings in Spain to get them things cracking?

Because there's like three days to keep you out forever.

And there's like three days between games in the first round.

Like, somebody's gonna pull a hammy and game one and go over to Spain

and get back and play game two.

I don't know.

The PJ is hop on the PJ.

Go to Spain. Come back.

I remember what he looks like, bro.

You don't believe in it?

No, I don't.

I don't believe it.

How many, how many, how many years have you heard me say that?

I think he's at least out games one and two.

And then maybe he might try to play three.

Because there's a lot of time to separate.

As someone who has, someone who's covered a ton of playoff series too.

Yeah.

Hamstrings groin's calves, brother.

Yeah, man.

It's time.

It's all it is is time.

Hamstrings groin's calves.

Muscles, boy.

Yeah.

They always think that, and then they go out there and they're like,

ah.

Yep.

Usually they try it.

You saw what's his name look like?

He was in a damn potato sack race last year.

Oh, he was.

He won a leg like a month.

He tried it.

I still give a leavey plate on that thing.

That's a warrior, bro.

He, he got some real point in my book.

I mean, it's game seven, but he couldn't run.

He couldn't run.

They were playing off of him because he couldn't.

He had adrenaline for about three minutes.

He was like, ooh.

Who is the other?

Somebody answered that too.

Didn't he, when it come?

Halliburton.

Well, Halliburton, time to kill.

Halliburton played on something.

Wasn't it Curry?

Last year against Minnesota.

The game one, like, didn't,

the game one against Minnesota.

Yeah, he didn't, he didn't.

He didn't pull his hamstring or something.

Yeah.

Let me see.

Yep, he did.

He pulled.

And they still won that game because Buddy healed

went like, nuclear the rest.

Yeah.

Buddy healed it like eight, three's in that game.

He came, he was supposed to be off in one week

and he came right back.

Who?

Let's see, hold on.

Curry?

No, I don't think he was one week.

Yeah, he was considered a day today.

Yeah, he didn't, he didn't.

He did not play the race in Syria.

He didn't play the race in Syria.

He didn't play the race in Syria.

He didn't play the race in Syria.

He didn't play the race in Syria.

He never played.

And he never can, never played.

That situation is weird too, bro.

Why is nobody talking more about that?

What, that they're not trying to win at all?

They're not trying to win.

Yeah.

So I've thought that the rest of the game

didn't know weird.

I don't think they ever wanted to bake the play in,

but they just weren't bad enough.

There was too many, there was too many bad teams.

Yeah.

They couldn't drop back.

And this is because you're wasting a curry like,

because curry's not, no, you're not.

No, he is still awesome.

You're not, you're not wasting anything.

Because, I mean, unless you want to just

go get mulled by Oklahoma City.

Yeah, right.

This is the exact situation we were in last year.

Yeah, we were.

And we beat Dallas.

Remember?

The Austin Golden State beat Dallas.

Yeah, and they got the number one pick in the drafts.

Respect.

Is it better?

Honestly, this is, this is the huge problem

I heard Gary talking about it.

Some massive problem.

Even all the way down to this,

there is, there are certainly situations

on which you are incentivized to lose, right?

Like, that is the biggest thing.

But that, it's another one of the discussion points

that has to take place in regards to the tanking thing,

which is, these odds cannot be radically different.

If you, if you want to preserve this,

you have to have the same odds

whether you win or lose this game.

Yeah.

That you don't get, but that is not the incentive here.

They are going to have a, what is it?

9.8% chance at a top four pick if they lose.

That's what, that's what, that's what Dallas had last year.

Yeah.

You, yeah, 9.4, it's 9.4.

Yeah, why not give curry one more.

Okay, listen, you have zero if you win.

If you win, now again, for the Clippers, it doesn't matter

because they don't have to pick anyway.

So it's, it's an extended circumstances

in this particular matchup anyway.

But this has to be where both of those teams

that are playing against each other,

one of them cannot be greatly incentivized

to lose the game.

They are incentivized to lose the game,

which is better for the future of their franchise.

And I do think you could argue,

if you're a young team, i.e. the Hornets,

it is much better for them to get playoff experience

than for you to be in the lottery again, right?

For sure, yeah, it is much better.

But for the Warriors, which is better?

Again, you're talking about, their team is wrecked.

Jimmy Bowler's out, most moody's out,

but they don't have their team.

Yeah, they don't have their team anyway.

And so which is better for them to go get fed to the wall,

you know, or fed, you know, get, get mulled by the,

and that's if they win another game after this one.

Yeah, I'm with you.

Yeah, it makes sense.

They are incentivized to lose right now.

Yes, that's.

So when you say, like, why are we,

it's a shame that it has touched the play in.

But the only way to fix that is that

your play in participants have to have the same odds.

Those, that there is no incentive to lose this game.

But as of right now, much like what we just went through,

through the regular season, and we talk about it so much,

you've got to take incentives away from losing.

They incentivize losing in a outsized way.

Yeah.

And look, having a one in 10 chance of getting in the top four

and having a lottery pick, you know what I mean?

Yeah, going forward to add to your team

because you don't have your team right now.

And, you know, you know, the Grizzlies won,

and then got smacked around by the Thunder last year.

And what we end up with, we had to give up a first round pick

to get up to get Coward, were we 16?

Yeah, we tried to, 16, we got to 11, right?

We got to 11 again, 11 to get set.

Right, but we had to use a future first to get up there.

We used one of the, one of the Orlando picks, right?

Yeah.

Just to get up to 11 and the way out, the way you like,

and like we said, Dallas got the number one pick in the draft.

The way you land that out, bro, we're going to look up the

Warriors or have a top five pick.

No, they can't have it.

It's either four or it's whatever.

Four or they're stuck in this line.

It's like 14 or 14.

It's either 11, but it's either 11 or four,

11 through 14 or top four is what the top four then

gives them one more hurrah.

Yeah.

I just look at it this, I didn't realize this

when you look at take it on only 17.

As of right now, if it just stays this way, only 17

of the 30 teams in the NBA have their first round pick.

Like it's their pick.

Really?

Yeah.

And because they're all, they're all owned by Oklahoma City

and Memphis.

So like, yeah.

Spurs.

Spurs.

The Clippers slotted to pick 12.

Their pick goes to O.K.C.

The Pelican slotted to pick seventh.

There's goes to Atlanta.

Everybody else slotted in the lottery is their original pick.

But when you get outside the lottery,

the only teams that still have their actual pick

are Toronto, the Knicks, the Lakers, the Nuggets,

and the Celtics.

The only ones that still have their own pick.

The rest of them have all been traded to other teams.

That's the pressure.

Wow.

That's crazy.

Hmm.

That's.

You see the pressure.

Do you usually see that kind of stuff in the second round?

Yeah, the Pacers have their own first.

No, if the Pacers fall outside in the Pacers pick,

there's weird protections on that.

First round pick, because the Clippers get it if it falls

in like a certain area in the lottery.

Like five through nine or something.

Yeah, something like that.

So that was the Zubat straight.

Right.

Yeah.

So if like if the Pacers are something that they don't end up

in the top four.

Yeah.

The Pacers come out.

That was their bet.

Yeah.

Their bet was, if you don't land in the top four, we get.

Yeah.

Okay.

Can we find a way to make this more simple?

Good.

There's been a thing just to get rid of the pick protection.

Just to get rid of the pick protection.

Yeah.

Like I don't do protection, bro.

Wow.

Hold on.

I don't either.

Hold on, guys.

What?

So irresponsible.

So irresponsible.

I agree.

You got kids.

So irresponsible.

Charlie, give this camera my face.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Even if they give it right on your face.

We're goodness.

Charlie, you got kids too.

Don't put this camera in my face.

You usually see a lot of this stuff in like the second round.

Like the picks that get traded a million different times.

Like not the first round though.

Yeah.

Oh, I don't get it.

Look.

That's some.

Look, we do know heat in the hornets should both are both theoretically going to be trying

to win their game.

Yes.

Trailblazers and sons are obviously going to be trying to like hell to win their game.

And the magic in the 76ers are going to be trying.

So the only one, we look three of the four are not.

But the Warriors Clippers thing becomes a bit of a dud because of the tact of the Warriors.

But honestly, I think the Clippers would have a better, you know, they have a better

crack at it anyway of beating again, yes, if we're looking at San and we need Phoenix to

lose.

In order for this to like like to pay off for us, yeah, the Grizzlies pay off for the

Vane trade is either Orlando or Phoenix getting knocked out.

And Orlando, I guess best case scenario would be Orlando loses to Philly, Hornets beat

Orlando.

Yeah.

Yes.

And then the best case scenario is trailblazers beat Phoenix and then the Clippers beat Phoenix.

The Hornets beat.

Yes.

So the Hornets lost to the magic on the, the first time they played this season that was

back in October, the three games after that, the Hornets won by 15 by 27 and by 19 against

Orlando.

Like they beat the crack.

No, I don't know who all played in the games, but like they beat the crap out of them.

I mean, I ain't saying it's not, it's not a terrible track.

Yeah.

You're trying to like surely one of those two scenarios that we just talked about can

take place.

I love you have something to do for it, by the way, too.

We do.

I mean, we're going to become Portland fans tonight and we got a room for Philly.

Yeah.

And at least we're sorry does we love you, but yeah, but he even hit a comment on my

IG, bro.

He hit me with the, he hit me with the twin on the IG post.

So I'm it's harder against my boy days, man, but sorry, bro.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I mean, with the twin on the IG post.

I can do it.

I can do it.

I can do it.

Yeah.

That is miserable.

What's the sign you held up last week in the master's update?

I loved who you held it up at it.

It's for the M.

Oh, yeah.

Hey, I love for the, I loved that Orlando team last year.

This, this year's team has been the speckled.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I don't care.

I don't care.

This looks safe.

Shape his head.

Flip a coin.

Yeah.

How come he didn't say we got a room for Dylan too?

You're right.

Because he didn't comment on your IG.

He didn't say twin on the IG post.

He put twin on the IG post.

We can root for Orlando again next year.

That's cool.

Taylor Jenkins.

Yeah.

That'll be nice.

You know what, though?

That's going to happen.

So, no, bet online, you know, they always send me the odds on stuff that can't be posted

because they're like the offshore thing.

So they post lines on like everything like so and so's next team.

Like, you know, you could go and kind of probably like a power market thing.

You could do the honest's next team, whatever.

I wonder if those prediction markets let you do the, I guess they probably would do the

coaching things and whatever.

But anyways, I got calcium.

They sent me, they sent me one this morning and it said, uh, it was Bucks next, next

coach.

It was after the rivers thing.

Bucks next coach.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Three to one was the favorite, you know, it was Taylor Jenkins.

Oh, this is, this is like lineage, right?

This is, this is all stopped.

They know him, the ownership front of sales, they all know him, he's a bud guy.

He's a bugger.

Yeah.

Spend the block.

Run it back.

The other ones that were four to one right behind him was Sam Kassel.

Oh, interesting.

Kassel's on.

Is he on the Celtics bench?

Uh, where's Kassel?

He's Celtics, right?

He is Celtics.

He is Celtics.

He's Celtics.

Yeah.

He's been there since 2023.

So I have, I have your calcium numbers.

Oh, I got me one.

Yeah.

That's what ugly dude, bro.

Oh, I got me one.

Look at that fish from a Hanimo.

That's what, that's what, that's what, that's what Tony Allen said.

He said, when I went on the training camp, dude, come here and me look at, sound like

the cookie monster.

He looked like he said, he said, he said, he posted me up and he said, oh, I got me one.

He looked like a cookie.

That me, that me, that me throw me the ball.

I'm going to score down here.

He said, he's putting his butt into me, he posted me up.

Oh, I got me one.

Yeah.

That's what I said.

Okay.

He also looks like a monster, too.

He said, he looked like, he said, he's telling me, and then the next, so Taylor Jenkins,

a three to one, Sam could sell four to one and then, uh, who's Sean Sweeney?

Sean Sweeney?

Is he a, is he a Bucks assistant?

Sweeney?

Yeah, yeah.

Sean Sweeney.

He is.

Oh, that's not him.

Uh, basketball.

Sean Sweeney.

He's five.

Spurs.

Spurs.

Yeah.

I was really curious about that.

What's the deal with, um, what's the deal, are you guys that they listed where like,

tibs and darven ham?

Darven ham came from there as well.

Is Wimby about to get a butt?

Is this about to be like, when Ray Lewis got a bunch of Ravens defense coordinators, head

coaching jobs, Sean Sweeney.

Wimby's just going to get a bunch of assistant head coaching jobs.

Yeah.

Anyway, no, I thought it was interesting that Taylor Jenkins was like, uh, Taylor Jenkins,

I think he, when they fired Mosley, he got to get the Orlando job.

Right?

Especially, because you know, desert reform.

Yeah.

It is so weird, so I feel like that agent was an agent gripping who they fired.

To get Doc, is it not like he just got paid

and he just like just offered to the sunset now, right?

You know what, people, maybe like every two, three weeks,

somebody will tell me they ran into the tailor.

Oh yeah.

He's around town everywhere.

People see me photos of him like Chick-fil-A,

like doing just regular stuff.

He's just living his life in Germantown.

He's never seen like that.

That Whole Foods Germantown, I've heard a couple of,

a couple people see him up there.

I'm wondering.

He did a speech at PDS.

I guess that's his kid's school.

Like, oh yeah, somebody sent it to me.

They're like, look who's speaking at the school.

I was like, what?

I wouldn't have if he paid attention.

I know it sounds weird, but like,

page interest.

Of course.

Like, do you watch the...

Of course.

Yeah.

Thoughts are still his guys and he still lives here.

That's actually pretty cool, man.

Shout out to God.

We got two former cut because Lionel's around, too.

Yeah.

We got two former cutches that live it down.

They're both like, yeah.

It's really cheap to live here.

They can live in a really awesome house.

You've been around for a long time.

Is that like a thing?

A lot of guys do come back and live here.

Like, because Rudy does, like, he did for a little bit,

like, Zbo TF, of course, like, Rudy has a live here.

I mean, so they come back and just like, they do stuff.

Huh?

I think just come back, bro.

People say that a lot of guys come back and live here.

Rudy's an ambassador.

Okay.

Tony does.

Tony lives here.

Tony lives here.

Mike Miller lives here.

Mike Miller lives here.

Like, how many guys that come back and live here after?

The only ones I know of are Mike Tony and Zbo.

Was it?

I guess, I think I think I'm like Tigers.

I mean, I'm thinking of like Tigers.

Oh, they're everywhere.

Yeah.

Oh, the Tigers.

I run into them.

Yeah.

I think of Tigers.

Yeah.

I ran into, I was walking through the gas station about, um, two months ago, and I was

like, is that shit?

Goodwin.

Organ?

No.

That's the best stuff, bro.

That is so best stuff.

Why are you doing this?

At the gas station working?

I asked somebody, and they said, there's no way.

I asked somebody, and they said, dude, he does live here.

Check those.

And I was like, really?

Yeah.

I mean, you can't mistake him.

It's you.

Oh, you mad.

You got long hair.

You got drawings like I do.

That's it.

And those guys got to take you away.

I was like, there's no way somebody looked that much like shit.

Goodwin.

But I haven't seen shit.

Goodwin in a decade.

Let me see.

That's crazy.

Yeah.

Let me see where shit goes.

What was he buying back with?

No.

It was that gas station right in front of P7.

Oh, excuse me.

I'm working out.

Probably.

He hadn't played basketball professional since 2022.

Okay.

He was playing in Greece.

He was a rebound leader in Greece for a while.

That bad goodwin.

Okay.

Yeah.

I saw him.

Okay.

Yeah.

You see Antonio Berg, you see Jeremy.

You saw Jeremy hunt at the France mid of commitment.

So they guess they do.

They do stick around.

Yeah.

Well, guys like that, Jeremy's from here.

Really?

Kemp's coaching in town.

Sean Tiger.

Kemp's from here.

See, Tiger's like not from here.

Tiger's not from here.

Well, Kelly Wise is still around town.

He's not.

He is.

Yes.

What I heard was he's still around town.

Kelly Wise somewhere around here.

Wow.

I just, that's what I'm maybe I was talking about tigers.

My bad.

Yeah.

There's not as many.

But yeah, you get some of the, yeah.

You know, this is where they get their own.

They basically like to play.

And then you look at the guys.

Especially that aren't from here, they still stick around.

Because they still famous, still famous here, bro.

When I got connections, you can get job.

And it's also.

And it's also, if you played here for a long time,

then you like established routes.

Yeah.

You don't just

just don't get players that play here for all that long.

No.

No, no more.

Like, I mean, Johnny, Jeremy work long time, right?

Stop.

Yeah.

It was a long time now.

Does this people still live here?

That's a long time in terms of.

It's a long time to live somewhere.

Yeah.

Yeah, his cousin still live here.

Huh?

There's this people still live here.

Like I see them, I've seen them

because at least three times.

This, and this.

OJ Mayo's, dude.

Yeah.

It's how you see Todd's places?

And that's a decade ago.

Yeah.

No, 15 years ago.

That's 15 years ago.

That was a 2011 team.

Cause I was in high school when his brother was in.

Yeah, that's why high school with me, yeah.

Yeah, Todd.

I've been out of high school for a while.

Cause people will tell me they see OJ here in the summer.

We gotta, bro.

We gotta find one.

We gotta, we gotta try to down OJ Mayo.

I cafted.

He was like coaching last year.

It was.

We posted it.

We did post a video.

Was it Russia or something?

Something, something, was it China?

Where was he coaching?

I see.

But he was like on the sideline as a coach.

I think I was like, this is great.

Yeah, China.

It's the CBA.

Okay.

What's the coach for the Leonine flying leopards?

That's my favorite team.

Yeah, me too.

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So one of the things that we have talked about when the NBA season ended and obviously

there was a, there were conversations that took place yesterday with Zach Climand

and Tomas Isolo and the assorted players on the team as they did their year end media

session yesterday.

Everybody's attention turns to the NBA draft and that by virtue of the Grizzlies losing

an extreme amount down the stretch.

They got all the way up to six, giving themselves a very reasonable chance at getting a top

four pick in the draft and this is a loaded draft for sure.

And AJ DeBansta and Darren Peterson and Booser and then the next guy, Caleb Wilson,

he is the one that we did not get to see perform in the NCAA tournament.

Obviously, we didn't even get to see him in the ACC tournament because his season was

cut short, but he's a guy that was high up on those draft boards and honestly, like,

he couldn't do anything to hurt himself, right?

Like I do think that most of the guys probably helped themselves more than hurt them.

So I don't think any of the players were so damn good that I don't think they hurt themselves.

By, you know, sometimes you have like a guy that has like a some kind of colossal dud and

just flamed out in the NCAA tournament.

That just was not the case of the best players, but we didn't get to see Wilson.

And I told you, I thought this could like benefit you a lot because the unknown is always

greater than the known, right?

He goes out there and they get beaten the first round and he has a six for 21 or something

and they lock him up and it's like, I don't know, man, he got locked up by blank.

I don't know if, yeah, I don't know if he's going to be ready for playing, you know, me

because where you would look at him and go, he's, he's some years away from being somebody

that can contribute all I'm an awesome NBA team.

But like, I'll tell you this, you watch his highlights and you're like, yo, and this kid

translates.

Well, and here's the kid.

He posted the video yesterday, uh, Caleb Wilson did making his announcement.

I'll let you see what he had to say.

What's up, Tarwhit Nation?

It's Caleb here.

This past year has been the most fun year of my life.

Although it has been filled with a lot of growth in adversity, I will always cherish this

university and the people that make this place what it is.

I'm grateful for the opportunity I had to represent North Carolina.

We're in number eight, we're in the historic turn of every day for practicing games and

I'm happy to say every day I gave him my all.

Lastly, I would like to thank my family, coaches, fans and support systems, especially my

head coach, the Godfather of Chapel Hill Hoots and my academic advisor, Jim, who always

check on me in my toughest times.

What a finish, the freshman announces his presence in the nation tonight.

It's the freshman going to go in any way and always wants to just solve their battleship

with that one.

With that being said, I would declare for the 2026 NBA draft, Go Hills.

That kid has like the megawatt smile like, or is this the dog?

Is this the dog?

What are you doing?

Yeah, that's the dog.

What a Michigan state.

It's Michigan state, not Miami.

Look at this.

What are you doing, bro?

Me just twing with them.

He's just got that megawatt smile.

Good looking kid.

And you know what he reminds me of?

He reminds me of that, like he's from that Jarin Gigi cloth of like you could see, like,

you could see him being the guy that all the kids love.

You know what I mean?

I'm telling you, there is a, we have got a massive gap to fill.

Kids loved John Jarin.

They loved John Jarin.

Yeah.

Loved them.

And the girls loved it.

And you see, you see this kid and it's like, oh, yeah, he would be everybody.

Like, look, you, it can be true of, it can be true apart.

I'm not saying he's the best player.

I'm not saying that he is the one that has to be chosen.

I am saying this that when you're trying to get people interested, when you're trying

to sell tickets and I see a guy that I'm going, yeah, that would be, that would be every

kid's favorite player, like immediately, immediately.

He's just got that like the it, the it thing, he's got the it thing, whatever that is,

like that, you know, I mean, you could see it, like you could feel it.

He seems, he seems extremely earnest.

He's also got like, you know, Gary was telling that story about how they saw his phone

like sitting down and then, and they were like, what is that?

And he was like, I changed my backdrop every day for motivation, like a screen, like

mine.

What's bothering you?

You see mine has like my kids on it, I've had that for the last whatever, 15 years.

But his, no, his screen, like when it sits down, no, he changes it, like every day for motivation.

And so somebody like Saul, like the screen, and asked him about it.

Because you know what it was?

It was a friggin' picture of Darren Peterson.

And he was like, yeah, I changed it to that, he, he didn't, he was on the same McDonald's

American team as me and he wouldn't pass me the ball.

He's a little psycho.

Yeah, okay.

So he's got some psycho in him.

He doesn't forget things, or he's doing the Jordan thing and he's just making it up in

his head.

Yeah, he got something against him, so he's like, no, he throws me out in the McDonald's

game.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I love it.

I love it.

I love it.

I love these kind of guys.

Like he takes everything personal.

Like, you have petty that is.

Yeah.

A picture of Darren Peterson sitting on your phone.

They're like, what's that all about?

It has.

So I mean, look, could he, is he, is he going to mature inevitably, he will.

But I'll tell you this.

You watch those highlights and you're like, yeah, I don't know what court that doesn't

work on.

Exactly.

And Kayla Wilson has, the, the name in the name has star power.

You mentioned the person, the personality thing too.

You know what he did yesterday?

Well, two days ago.

He's at the banana balls game.

Oh, he was.

He did the Savannah bananas.

He was throughout the first pitch of the game.

So he has that kind of, like you said, the kind of like, or a big personality for him.

He does.

You know what I'm saying?

Like that kind of vibe to him.

Jalen, my bad again.

I sent you the video.

Hope you can get a load of it.

We got the banana ball pitch.

But yeah, he got, he got that swag and a swag to him, bro.

He certainly, he certainly got the star power thing, right?

And the highlights are the highlights, bro, the highlights are just, yeah, the highlights.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Let's see if he can he throw a baseball.

I'll put the hat on him.

I'll never see.

Oh, yeah.

This is judgment time, huh?

Yeah.

It is so weird to me that sometimes these, these, these, these base are these.

Oh my God.

Yeah.

No.

Oh my God.

He should not have done that.

Yeah.

Yeah.

He's sick to ball, bro.

I'm sick to ball, bro.

I'm saying that they never.

Why does that happen?

Well, I can't.

That's why they're so, why are there so many they can't, like did they not, do we not

play those sports and growing up anymore?

Like you still have to play the stuff in gym class.

Yeah.

Who like in the front yard, you throw a baseball every now.

That looks like I threw, that looks like I threw the ball left handed.

You know, like when you throw left handed, they always tell you, they always tell you

to do that.

They always tell you to like, if you want some like, if you want some like levity, if

you want to like get back on track, because I've, I've done this many times, like I'll miss

a putt.

And then I'll just pick the ball up and I'll throw it in the woods or I'll throw it in

the, I'll throw it in the lake or whatever one I'm playing golf, whatever.

They said, if you ever want to like laugh, pick your ball out and throw it with your off

hand.

And you're like, there's no way.

There's no way to stay mad.

Yeah.

He looks, it feels and looks so stupid.

Yeah.

But that's what that look.

Like did these kids not play dodgeball?

Did they not play?

You know what I'm saying?

You theoretically had like, you've had to throw a ball and some overhand or somebody or

something.

Throw the ball overhand.

Like it's not that weird.

You wouldn't be that for it.

It's a very simple skill.

You would think.

Like throwing throwing throwing a baseball throw a football because when you're a kid,

you throw crap at each other.

That's what I'm saying.

You know what I'm saying?

Like you throw things at each other.

Like my kids have been throwing stuff at each other since they were born.

Yeah.

That's how my daughter learned how to catch.

You know, I always tell people like with, with William, I used to stand there like every

day.

And I'd be like, you know, toss back and forth, right?

And I'd be like, no, no, nobody with your hands.

Don't, don't push it against your chest, right?

Before I throw in a football or throw in a basketball, whatever.

Catch it with your hands.

Catch it with your hands.

Catch it with your hands.

I never did that ever with Hayley, but if she walked in here right now and you whizzed

a football, her head, she just bucked like that because it was just survival of the

fittest.

She just had to learn how to catch because the ball was going to hit her in the head.

If not, like nobody sat out there and taught her, she's like, you know, if I want to

throw the ball to him in the face, I got to, but I'm also throwing, she doesn't look

like that.

Yeah.

Why does he look like that?

He's down on my board.

I'm sorry.

A lot of basketball players do look weird throwing a baseball.

You got to go down a little bit.

Yeah, you do.

I don't know where he's going, but that's down a little bit.

I can't have that at the Redbirds, that way.

We can't.

I can't.

I can't be posting a video of him.

And you'll be y'all be like, Devin, what is, what is it?

No.

That was horrible.

Look at what he said.

That's it.

That was a terrible thing that just happened.

Why did you show me that?

I just broke.

I got to give you the best of both worlds, bro.

I can't have you.

That was the best of both worlds.

You got to see the good and the bad.

Yeah.

I love that.

I love the interviews.

I like the mega watch smile.

But that throw is unacceptable.

Yeah.

Throw is gross.

We're fixing that.

Is it?

That's, that's day one stuff.

That's day one.

Well, the Chris Verde show will teach you how to throw a ball.

Take one stuff.

Take a second.

No, I can't.

No, I can't.

Is it because it's okay?

How about this?

No.

It's nothing to do with his hands.

No, his hands.

Oh, or his hands to be.

What?

I'm just asking a question.

No.

He just has never thrown a baseball.

Never.

I know.

You ain't got a little cousin or something.

You throw a ball with the first yard.

These kids just, I mean, they got trainers when they're four years old now.

Like we got two kids playing throw a baseball.

Okay, let's see.

I mean, there's no way you play dodge ball like that.

You just never play dodge ball.

He said you ain't ever played dodge ball.

Yeah.

You never threw a football.

Do kids just not throw out that?

I don't think kids.

Maybe kids don't throw no more, bro.

I guess they don't.

These new kids.

Like, you know, kids don't play outside like they used to.

Yeah.

Like my generation was probably the last generation where kids actually played outside, bro.

I guess.

Like, I don't know.

I tell you this, though.

Caleb Wilson is going to be the hottest jersey going for one of these teams that drafts him

because he's going to have.

Hey, you know what I was thinking about last night?

Do you remember a dunk from this year?

Not Grizzlies.

Anjunt.

Which one?

I was going to say John Collins, but that was last year.

I know.

This was a low dunk year day.

I feel like VJ Edgecomb had some.

You don't remember them, though.

Let me see.

I'm saying this was a weird year.

No, that's a thing.

There's just not as many.

And like this guy's going to have like the shade and sharp highlights.

There's not a ton to remember.

I'm trying to remember.

They're saying it.

Like it's not.

It's the John Collins.

They'll post like the top 10 dunks of the year or something at some point.

I'm just saying off the top of my head, I don't remember.

Like, like when, when Ant massacred Yuda and John Collins, like those were like, oh my

God.

I just don't, again, off hand.

I don't remember.

That is you say that.

In the same way.

You're going to have me dig in this trying to follow.

Well, because Antiole, look, I have at this.

I was going through like last night.

You see the top 10 jersey sales?

Yeah.

So Ant got in there.

Ant got in there.

Lamella was in there.

But he's the only one that even dunks.

Yeah.

Cooper flag would be the other one.

Yeah.

Nobody else on the list.

Dunks.

Think about that.

All right.

So I haven't seen this list.

You ain't seen loose?

No.

I got the list right here on the phone.

I've got it.

You got it right there.

Yeah.

Okay.

Yeah.

It is.

I was shocked at who number one was.

Is it Wimby?

Yeah.

Curry.

Yes.

OGs.

OGs are still in there, bro.

Don't you just two, but that's a Lakers.

Yeah.

Right.

Um.

Curry is Wimby is Wimby in there.

Wimby is four.

Wimby is four.

Wins is in there too.

Any three.

Three.

Three.

Yeah.

Bronson's three.

Yeah.

I mean, look for flags in there.

He is nine.

So he is the only rookie.

Yeah.

Full HD.

SGA.

SGA is in there.

SGA is eight.

Okay.

Yoaks in there huh?

Ten.

Okay.

Tadam.

Seven.

I was trying to go to stars.

And L'Arbrane.

Yeah.

That's it?

Yeah.

L'Arbrane.

Five.

And then Anthony Edward's six.

That's crazy.

Emilos and Andrews in Cooper fighting.

Look.

Those guys don't.

Curry doesn't dunk.

Lucas doesn't dunk.

Bronson doesn't dunk.

Wimby dies, but that's not the same thing.

Yeah.

You need an increase.

says we're forgetting a dunk what did I forget oh yeah, that's a tough one. Yeah, that was it. Oh my god. Not

Oh, yeah, Anthony black. Oh, Wimby's on gg after gg got Wimby. Oh, let's see. Oh, bro. Yeah, the LeBron one. All right, Scotty

bar is okay. Don't remember I guess maybe it just happened. Oh my god. I shake sharp

No, the Anthony black one was unbelievable. Brandon Miller. He cracks a lot. Oh, yeah, pretty good

Oh, got the way Jack the right. Yeah, Brandon Miller's got some sneaky amazing ones. There's no

Oh, who the hell is that? Go back, bro. Was that Jeremiah fears? No, that was a wizard, bro. Yeah

Oh, Buzella. I remember that one. Yeah, the Buzella's one's good. All right, Buzella's got a whole highlight

Okay, so these were the nastiest ones of the year that was true man

Okay

Yeah, I was the Anthony black one. You're right. I did forget about that. That was crazy. That happened

to us embarrassing and that was the game on the line. Dr. The whole team. Don't don't our whole team.

I that is the dunk of the year. The picture is crazy. Yes, I'm

I don't know what to do with four of our guy like Sonny Aldama, Jared Jackson Jr. GG and who's the

Is that the screen shot? It's Jared Santi GG. Let me see my boy. It's like three like almost seven

footers. My boy Tony took the photo. I got he got in one and one other guy with you, Jared GG and

his Williams. Oh my God. Rest in peace. I'm sitting to you, Jared. So people can see it. Hold on.

The that that that's still photo is crazy. I can't believe that that's you know what? We tried to

erase it from our memories. Yeah, that's why the worst though. The most unbelievable dunk of the

season happened against a friggin grizzly. Yeah, is that like if you had to say that was in

Memphis, Grizzly's 2526 season. There's a picture. Is that the picture? Like that sums up how this year was.

Yes. Anthony Black dunking on our entire team. Yes. Overseas in Germany. In Germany. Yeah. Right.

Yeah, that's my life. Shots of my dog Tony, man. The magic. That's what elite photo by him.

That is our summer of the season. That's Williams. That is an impossible. What are you doing?

That is an impossibly awesome photo. I say, I say that a lot. I will have that in my house like

above the bathroom. Oh my God. That would be above the bathroom above my bed.

Don't get on four people. I don't have never seen that.

There's no other photo like that. Nobody's ever dunked on. There's only five on the corner.

Where's our fifth player?

He was like, I know what's about to happen. I'm just going to say back.

So I made a good point. Half the dude was in a photo got traded after that.

Yeah. Two other four. Yeah. They're like, you know what? This is the time. We got dunked on by

the black dog. Got to go four guys at one time. Yeah. Anyway. Yeah. But they know I mean,

they're the only ones that really do it. Like it's kind of crazy. That's why I say that Caleb Wilson

thing. He'll be a he'll be a big deal because he's going to be like he dunked dunks. Yeah.

Oh yeah. Like in a massive way. And most of these guys in the NBA now, like there's just not

the best fighters are not dunkers. Because even Anna catch somebody like night to night,

but it's like, you know, I'm saying he don't he probably the hardest dunk in the league right now.

He takes a ton of threes, too. Yeah. He takes a lot of threes. He didn't drive his mind.

He didn't drive his mind. When he drives, he takes off. Did you see the merchandise sale for teams?

Yeah. It said that for the first time, the Knicks overtook the Lakers. Yeah.

In terms of merch sale. I saw the surprise to the Timberwolves in there too. Because I guess

because they got had those cool uniforms. Oh yeah. Timberwolves are number nine and team

mercils. You know, they're wearing the black tree ones for the playoffs. Yep. For the home games.

I love it. Yeah. All teams should do that, bro. We're with the throwbacks.

Spurs are top five. Other notable players right outside the top 10.

Durant 11. Maxi 12. Maxi is cool. Okay. Tari's Maxi is cool. Yeah. Booker 13. I am surprised

this one's not higher. Kade is 14. I would have thought Kade would have moved up. Kids like Kade.

Kade is cool. Is it his first time in the top 15? Probably. And LeMelo is 15. So he'll next

year. LeMelo is 15. A second round playout. Kade Cunningham is cool though. Yeah. That too

is tough. He's cool. Yeah. Let them make an Eastern Conference finals or an NBA finals run

the pistons and well plus. I mean, like, you know, he's one of our very few chances at having

an American born MVP. Right. It's like really him and Anten. Because they tell him. We're

probably out of the Tatum business up for MVP now. Maybe. Yeah. I mean, it'd be hard. It's

up to be hard to believe he wins an MVP post to kill these. I don't know. You didn't think

he'd come back after 10 months. I understand. But I mean, you've been on Tatum's nuts for 10 years.

That's care. That's why he saw KV East Owl candy. Well, they get a man out of here. Ghost

Celtic. He saw you in candy. It might eat us our press key and we're all dead. Ghost expression.

Right. What are the games tonight? Six thirty late. Six thirty. Yeah. Six thirty and nine. Oh,

okay. Suns. Buysers isn't until nine o'clock tonight. Prime video. I hate to

rob us of playoff Eric Collins, bro. Playing Eric Collins would have been.

Does he do prime? He do. He does, bro. Who is calling the announcers?

Announcers for play-in games. Let's see. I need to. I need to. Oh, my god. The mellow.

Uh, I don't know. I don't. They're not going to let him. I mean, come on. Do you

can't be impartial? I'd Eagle Stan Van Gundy. It is Eric Collins and Del Curry on Amazon.

It is. Let's go. What is? Yeah, let's go. Kevin Harlan with Candace Parker and Jim Jackson.

Eric Collins with Del Curry. So we get Eric Collins, baby. We can play off. Play in Eric Collins.

Is it really? I need that. ESPN features might bring Doris Burke and Tim Legler.

Are you sure? So this other website for the win. It says Eric Collins and Del Curry are calling

the heat horn. It's play-in game. Okay. Wow. That's what it says right here. Who? Okay,

because there's another for the win, which I guess is owned by. Is it owned by USA Today or whatever?

Yeah, because Kevin Harlan and Candace Parker are doing the sun's game. Okay.

So we do get my blurry Collins in. I'll be damned. Let's go. It says. Oh, wow.

So they're actually going to get their home announcer, huh? Let's go. That does dope.

So this went for the win, which is owned by USA Today. It says it's I and Eagle and Stan Van Gundy.

It does say that. Yeah. It is. It is not. It is not. It is not going to be Eric Collins.

They do call games on Amazon Prime though. Eric Collins does. But it does say I and Eagle here.

You're right. I and Eagle and Stan Van Gundy. He's good too. Oh, for sure. He's great.

Yeah. That would be weird for them to have their home announcer calling their play-in game.

Yeah, it would be hard to give the heat a fair shake.

Oh, I remember when you're when Matt Devlin, it was like the year after he left the Grizzlies,

he called a Grizzlies playoff. Grizzlies sun's playoff game. He also called the Thunder one.

We're, uh, Tasha and Prince don't on the Thunder. He did. He did call that one.

Tasha and Prince. Yeah. Yeah. But he called one where it was like the year after he left the

Grizzlies. He called a playoff game against the sun's Grizzlies sun's and you can just hear it

in his voice. Jay will batty a pal because he knew all those guys. He still knew all of them and

you can hear it. All right. So it's going to be I and Eagle on that first team. And then Kevin

Harland in the second one. So we got good answers. We got good answers. Yeah. Yeah.

Protect the Hobbs tonight, Bruno. All right. Well, we do have the play-in games that are going on.

We'll obviously talk about those tomorrow. Thanks to John Rose across the glass. Thanks to

Jaylen back in the studio. Thanks to Devon Walker until tomorrow. We go.