In this powerful conversation from AmFest, Sean sits down with Dale from The Midnight for an unfiltered discussion about politics, power, social media, and the issue that matters most: humanity.
The episode moves quickly from culture and immigration to election integrity, censorship, and the growing influence of ideology in the West. The Midnight shares his unapologetic views on why so many people feel the system is failing — and why speaking honestly now matters more than ever.
But the most impactful moment comes when he opens up about a tragedy that changed his life forever: reaching out to a young girl online who was asking for help, only to learn she had already taken her own life. From that moment on, he made a promise to actively fight bullying and protect vulnerable kids online.
He explains how bullying has become a 24/7 epidemic fueled by social media, why kids can’t escape it anymore, and how responding with compassion — even to hate — has shaped his platform and his mission.
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12:40 – The Future of Elections & Power
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If you're not nice and I always give everybody one warning, on my platform, everybody has the benefit of one warning and some of the closest relationships I have on my platform are people that attack me because I gave them the one and I always give one nice warning and I always wish them love to them and their family, you know, and I always remind them that, you know, I'm here for you if you need me.
Alright guys, here at Amphus Day 2, we got the midnight on the show. What a name.
I got to hear how you got that name.
It was my friends naming this year's ago that, you know, they were all out in the clubs and they're partying, whatever they're doing.
Okay.
And I didn't come out before 12 o'clock at night.
Before 12.
Before, yeah, they were all out there early and I'm just like, I'm sleeping and I show up at midnight and I just came in and just said,
You wreak havoc.
Yeah, I wreak havoc at midnight.
That was the end of the show.
Here they go.
Here comes the midnight.
I'm in bed at 9 p.m.
That's why you're 6 foot 6.
Yeah, yeah.
I fucked a lot.
Yeah, you all catch me out at midnight.
It's amazing.
Not in Vegas.
But those days are gone for you, right?
Oh, no, no, no.
Oh, you're still going out at midnight.
I still got midnight.
That's funny, bro.
Yeah, yeah.
Do you like the nightlife?
I love the nightlife.
Okay.
Did you go out last night?
Last night did I go out because I knew I had a show with you.
I did.
I had a show with you but I was out to about 11 o'clock at night.
I had Korean barbecue with my daughter.
Dude, I love Korean barbecue.
Yeah, we had Korean barbecue and then she left at 11 o'clock and she didn't come home to 4 o'clock in the morning because she's the little midnight.
What?
She is.
Wow.
She's great.
You're amazing.
She's fantastic.
You going to James O'Keefe's rave tonight?
I think we're going to go to James O'Keefe's rave tonight.
He goes hard.
Oh, yeah.
It's going to be fun.
Last year there was a fight there.
There was all sorts of routiness but I didn't go.
Maybe I'll go this year.
It's going to be fun.
Yeah.
Let's talk about some more serious issues though.
Sure.
All the stuff going on in the country.
What do you see as the big issues right now?
I think the biggest issues, obviously, is this immigration thing.
And what we're seeing now is how the country is suffering.
The American people are suffering with what happened with those open borders.
Now you're starting to see the effects of when you let everybody into this country
undocumented, unvetted, that not only good people will let in,
and there are a lot of good people.
And it's a shame because my platform really is a focus of humanity.
And the humanity will always come over politics.
But we don't have a crystal ball.
And we don't know who's good.
We don't know who's bad.
And now all of a sudden you're seeing all this chaos happening all around the country.
And whether coming from some countries in the Middle East,
maybe from Asia, from China, from other places,
but it seems the common denominator right now is really coming from the community
of the Jihad Muslim Islam terrorists, which the naming it.
And everyone's afraid to talk back because they say,
well, everyone's afraid to be called a liberal racist.
And I think that we're racist today is like,
if you ask me, am I a racist against very, very bad people
that are hurting people?
Yeah, well, then I guess I'm a racist.
I don't like those people.
They throw around racist anti-Semite.
It doesn't have the same meaning I feel like it used to.
It doesn't.
It's terrible.
It's terrible.
So Jihad, are they in the US or what's their deal?
Oh, yeah.
They're definitely here.
They're definitely here.
You know, there's the, you know,
and then we'll also happen with, also, you know, Australia,
as they're waving the ISIS flags before they take out the, you know,
the people of the Jewish tradition as well.
Yeah.
So it's not just, listen, America thank God I believe, you know,
I thank God we got Donald Trump as the president.
You know, he, I believe he cares about the people.
I believe he cares about the country, you know,
and I think that he's going to squash this and handle this, you know,
and also what's going on with the Somali community in Minnesota.
$8 billion, $9 billion, just went missing under Tim Walter's watch.
What?
You know, you know, you know, and, you know,
and then they're allegedly possibly that it went into back to Somalia,
back into the hands of Al Qaeda,
and this is very same terrorist organization that's screaming death to America.
So, you know, and then we question, well, Elon Omar,
how does she have a net worth of $30 million that of nowhere?
You know, she came in, no money, we saved her,
gave her great life.
Next thing you know, she's got a net worth of $30 million.
We want to know why.
How?
Follow the money.
Yeah, that's a lot.
It's a lot of money.
Yeah, Gavin Newsom's got a lot of money too.
Gavin Newsom's got a lot of money too.
I think his house is over $5 million or something crazy.
He bought a $9.5 million mansion over there in,
I think, you know, Northern California.
What's his salary?
$250,000, $300,000.
So, the math isn't math thing?
The math is not math thing.
He's a very bad dude as well.
He's a very bad dude, you know.
And also, and I like to use the words allegedly,
possibly, you know, I want to know where the millions
upon millions of dollars are that they raised
for the families of the Pacific Palisades.
You know, where is the money, Gavin?
You're charity, your organization raised millions of dollars
and the people in the Palisades haven't seen a penny.
So, we want to know to the governor of California,
where is the money?
I hope New York City doesn't follow suit with that.
It's looking pretty bad, though.
It's looking pretty bad.
You know, you know, there's a, you know, there's a room, I'm Donnie.
You know, he's a, he's a bad dude.
He's a, he's a bad guy.
You know, and we know in his faith,
if he's also a faith of Islam,
and you know what that, that faith thinks about the LGBTQ
gays, bisexuals, homosexuals, whatever you want to call it.
And there he is, party at one o'clock in the morning
at an LGBTQ club, you know, just basically saying,
I am a liar, and I'm going to do anything I can for a vote.
And they all been at Hooklatt and Saker,
and he's coming in January.
And I told my followers, I'm very clear that in June,
that I will put my candidacy to be the next mayor of New York City.
Wow.
I 100%.
I've already got over a million people that said they will,
they will vote for me, you know, coming into New York.
You know, if he blows this thing up so bad.
Cheers.
A million people.
Yeah, I've argued all the way because the election
interference, they don't check voter ID.
So we've got people flying it all around the country,
they're going to come and vote for me in New York.
They don't care.
If the Democrats are going to cheat, well, so are we.
So you could just vote for mayor in New York City without an ID?
They do not require an ID to see who you are in New York.
Did they do mail-ins there?
They do.
Oh, so you could easily.
Easily cheat.
Easily.
Callie too, I heard.
Yeah, 100%.
I mean, even on a federal level, there was like seven states
that didn't check ID, right?
It's insane.
It's absolutely insane.
I think we're the only country in the world that you
will not require to prove who you are when you come to vote in a machine.
That's crazy.
It's insane.
That's unreal.
If it's happening here, it's probably happening everywhere, right?
I think so.
Raking elections.
Raking elections is happening everywhere.
That's why I thank God when the president, when he was campaigning
too big to rake, you know, and it had to be.
It had to be too big to rake.
Yeah.
What's going on in Dearborn right now?
Because there's a lot of news headlines about Dearborn, Michigan.
I mean, Dearborn for all the sense of purposes has fallen to a Muslim community.
You know, Sharia laws being run over there over the Constitution.
You have a Muslim mayor quoted saying that they will have parades for
Christians to leave the town.
The local police, their badges are in Arabic, not in the way.
Their badges are in Arabic.
Wow.
On their sleeves and they're trying to name, well, actually that's trying.
They did name streets in Dearborn after al-Qaeda terrorists.
What?
Yeah.
That's unreal.
It's unreal.
Holy shit.
And we're allowing this under our nose.
But I think it's coming to a head.
How did that happen?
Were they there for a while?
And it just blew up recently?
They were there for a while.
And underneath the radar, slowly building, slowly building and all of a sudden,
you know, when you get some American patriots that get involved,
you know, they expose what's going on.
Yeah.
So you don't believe Islam is compatible with the West?
Absolutely not.
I mean, and there's, you know, and I have a lot of friends that are peaceful,
peaceful people from that region.
Yeah.
And they reach out to me and they say, hey, man, you've got to help us.
We don't agree with this ideology.
And they bring a lot of hate to our community.
And I feel horrible for them.
And I tell them that you've got to speak to your leaders.
You've got to get up.
You've got to speak to your leaders.
And there's so many peaceful people.
You know, I was a very large voice for the 125,000 Christians
that lost their lives in Nigeria.
Boko Haram, these terrorist organizations came in
and they started doing ethnic cleansing.
What people don't know is 60,000 peaceful Muslims
have lost their lives too, protecting the innocent people of Christianity.
Wow.
And the terrorist organization was like, well, if you don't align with us
and you'll get to protect them, well, guess what?
You lost your lives as well.
60,000 peaceful Muslims lost their lives
over there in Nigeria up to date.
Damn.
I didn't know that.
A lot of people don't.
You know, that's what I'm saying.
When I speak, I'm going to be very clear that humanity is over everything.
You know?
And even with this Palestinian thing, free Palestine, free Palestine,
and Palestine should be free.
They should be free from Hamas.
And they should be free from Islamic jihad terrorists
that are bringing death to their nation.
I've heard, especially from the UK,
people are very concerned about this.
I have over 100,000 followers in the United Kingdom alone.
Wow.
And they are so, you know, and I tell them that if not when,
you guys, if you don't speak up now for ever hold your peace
and a lot of them are going to be seeking asylum here
in the United States of America because,
Jesus.
I mean, if you go, you see the videos, I get said,
coming out of London, coming out of the United Kingdom,
Scotland, Ireland, there's some places and some streets
that are in areas that are just unrecognizable.
Wow.
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It's crazy to say that about such an established country
like the United Kingdom.
100%.
I gotta tell you, they should indict the Prime Minister
that I'm meeting.
He's actually a traitor to the country.
He's absolutely close to treason.
His name is Stomer over there,
and he does not have the best interest
as the people of the United Kingdom.
Meanwhile, you tweet out something out there
they don't like, they arrest you.
Oh, people are getting arrested for Facebook posts.
People are getting arrested for Instagram and TikTok.
Crazy.
100%.
I could not go to the United Kingdom today.
They would arrest me the second I got off the airplane.
Do you worry if the left wins in 28?
That's a possibility in the United States.
If the left wins the midterms coming up in November,
then very next day they will put a piece of paper
on Donald Trump.
And I have to tell you that the following two years
he will be wasting his time defending himself.
And it's gonna be, it's gonna be for naught.
And everything we fought for for the last 10 months
is gonna be going back to the last four years we didn't want.
You know, biological boys in the locker rooms
with our biological daughters, open borders,
they will flood us.
It will be, it will be the gates of hell
will open up in those borders.
Billions above billions of dollars
will be funneled out of this country,
extorted beyond what we've ever recognized.
That's crazy.
Crazy.
Just if we lose the midterms your side.
If we lose the midterms it is finished.
It's done what's over.
Why?
And I can tell everybody on the Republican side
and even on the Democrats that don't side with socialism.
There are other, and I don't want to name,
I don't like naming other bad influencers,
but this guy is that they're like Nick Valente.
I think he's Nick Valente.
Nick Valente?
No, Nick Valente.
Oh, come on.
He's a socialist performer on TikTok.
And he calls out the Democrats and the Republicans together
as you are a common enemy of the socialist.
So what he's saying is Americans are the enemies
against our way of thinking.
So I reached out now to Democrats that I will take off my
mega red hat.
I will throw to the side.
I'm now off the mega train.
Not that I don't support my president,
but I'm now America first.
And if you're an American and you don't support
social thinking of the way they did what they're trying to do
with the country, then I will walk with you.
And I asked them, will you walk with me?
Crazy.
I personally didn't realize how big the socialist movement
was getting until I had on a guest recently.
And he was sharing with me some numbers and stats on it.
It's growing.
It's growing.
Especially with the younger demo.
It's growing with the younger generation.
They don't know they're being lied to.
Their leaders have been lied to for so long
by the Democratic Party.
And the Democrats, there is no Democratic party anymore.
They lost.
They've been bullied and they've been pushed out.
Guys like Chuck Schumer and Hakim Jemperies,
the new AOC is coming up.
Bernie Sanders is just loving this.
He's an older dude, dude, but he's loving what's going on.
Yeah, but he's super happy.
He's taking it.
Super happy.
And this party is very scary.
Very scary.
We're going to, you know, this country.
If socialism takes over, then I would employ you
to take a look at Cuba, take a look at Venezuela,
look what's going on in North Korea.
And if you want to live the way those people living,
then let's go socialism.
Let's go outside up for it.
I'll leave for that.
Right.
They did a poll.
And this is not racist, guys.
They did a poll on the black community.
Would you favor socialism or capitalism?
55% said socialism.
Yeah, I think that's temporary.
I think the black community,
especially with this thing going on with Somalia.
And the community of Somali,
they look at, they are trying to wipe out the black race
as far as I'm concerned.
They talk about it, they trash them.
The Somali community is,
it was brought in under the,
I believe it was under the Barack Obama administration.
And, you know, and what happened with Joe Biden
bringing everybody from Afghanistan.
You know, again, they said it was,
it was documented.
You could have probably documented that
all those people coming in at once.
It was, it was a disaster.
And I can tell you to the black community.
Thank you so much because they were part of Donald Trump getting
to the house.
They helped.
They helped a lot.
Donald Trump, they call them a racist.
They call them a Nazi.
They have all kinds of names,
but who's the man in Africa stopping all these wars?
Who's the man having the people of,
of all these, these leaders of all these countries,
saying these, calling out the atrocities,
bringing the, of what's happening is Sudan.
Bringing what's happening in Nigeria.
I love the president for that,
because that's everything I stand for.
No.
You just stood behind him for three hours.
How did that happen?
Oh, it was awesome.
I got a call from the administration.
Uh, midnight.
Thank you so much for all your campaigning.
Thank you so much for everything that you do for the president.
We'd love to have you over here in Pennsylvania,
over at the Poconos.
Um, and we got security clearance.
And we got to stand behind him for, uh, for three hours,
while he was talking about, uh, the strength of America.
Wow.
And I was so on and I was so grateful to be standing there next to him.
And we got so many, uh, so many calls and so much, uh,
emails and, and DMs and midnight is that you?
We love you.
We're supporting you.
Everything we do.
That's cool.
Yeah, it was, it was dope.
It was great.
The power of social media, huh?
Power of social media is absolutely amazing.
Yeah, you were able to build, uh, how many followers do you have now?
Uh, right now we have a TikTok 620,000 followers.
Wow.
About 30 days before he became president,
we had 1.4 million of TikTok.
Wait, what?
Yeah, with a TikTok shut us down.
Uh, they suspended almost every, uh, every, uh,
a conservative platform out there.
Wow.
And then I was, uh, I was a little upset about that.
And then we started December.
And now we're back up to over 600,000 followers there.
We've got about 150,000 followers on 120,000 followers on Facebook.
And we're hitting about 100,000 on, on Instagram.
And we just started that.
Those platforms may be about two months ago.
Well done, well done.
Thank you.
Where would you grade Trump's second term so far?
Eighth through math.
Oh, he's a, to me, I got to tell you,
he's a force to be reckoned with.
Um, he is absolutely, you know,
you can love him.
You can hate him.
And I would tell everybody with Donald Trump,
if you do not like him,
and you can't stand the way he speaks,
put headphones on and don't listen to him.
Make believe your death.
Watch what he does with your vision and your eyes.
The guy is a beast.
Uh, he is a force to be reckoned with.
I would give him an F plus.
The F plus is best.
Our F is the worst.
A plus 100%.
I think he's doing absolutely fantastic.
Uh, you know, obviously like everybody else, uh,
I am asking for the clarity of the Epstein files.
I am praying that, uh,
our president has nothing to do with corruption,
occlusion of underage children or women.
Uh, I stay by him right now,
because I've not seen anybody bring any receipts.
And as long as nobody can bring receipts,
I stay by the president.
But I want to be very clear that I will denounce him,
like anybody else,
because humanity always comes first
over my, over my platform before politics.
Uh, and everything that we stand for
would be against what, uh,
that those claims that they're saying that the president
might have possibly been, uh, been involved with.
Yeah.
Yeah, I know you love humanity.
You actually speak out against bullying.
Um, what made you start speaking out against that?
Uh, originally when I started, uh, you know,
I, I was speaking to this one girl, uh,
I saw her reaching out for help, uh, on TikTok.
Yeah.
And I reached out to her,
and I, you know, she looked like she was hurting
and she was going to hurt herself.
I said, hey, my name is the midnight, uh,
you know, uh, I'm here.
If you need me, reach out to me.
I'm giving myself one of them.
We'll do a FaceTime.
I got you.
And I spoke to her about a week.
And she never got back to me.
And all of a sudden, she answered me.
And I was her mom.
And I'm, I get emotional about this.
Because her mom said, uh,
thank you so much for reaching out to my daughter.
Um, but she's already taken her life.
Wow.
And I was speaking to a girl.
It's already taken her life.
And that's when I said, never another child
under my watch.
And I have me and I have a team that constantly scours
needed for children.
I think are, uh, are at that point.
And up to date, we have 136 children that we talk down
from taking their own lives to the bully.
Wow.
That is serious.
Holy crap, dude.
Yeah.
Thanks for being so open about that story.
That is crazy, man.
Yeah.
I think everyone in these states can relate to someone.
They know that has taken their own life, unfortunately.
It's, it's, it's terrible.
Over 40, 200 children, I believe the number has taken their lives
every year in the United States of America due to bullying.
Holy shit.
42 people don't even understand the number.
You know, they, you know, the on television and on the news media.
All the, you know, the gun shootings get all the attention.
You know, because it is a big thing.
It's like a one exciting news story that you can tell.
You can tell kid came into a school to a church.
Nobody talks about the bullying that's had it's an epidemic.
Yeah.
It's not even in the same world of a school shooting
compared to 42 hundred children.
It's really, it's a, it's a, it's a slow epidemic that's happened to children.
And we try to teach them to, you know, get thicker skin.
Yeah.
School is just a blip in time.
It's going to be over before you know it.
It's not your fault.
It's there's something that's empty in the bully.
He's trying to fill his cup by picking on you.
So have compassion for them.
Ask them, how can you help the bully begin to a happier space?
You know, we, we try to teach them all these things.
To just put the number one message.
It's not about the child's again bullied.
It's about the bully in itself.
We even go to bully's families and try to find out help them.
Why are you doing this?
Wow.
Is something happening at home?
Are you being, you know, abused at home?
Is something happening that's forcing you to be this angry?
Yeah, because hurt people hurt people, right?
For hurt people hurt people.
Yeah, bullies usually get bullied.
Bullies definitely usually get bullied.
Yeah.
Yeah, and now it's worse because when you went to school,
you only got bullied in school.
Oh, well, yeah.
When I was in school, you were grown up along out in the 70s and 80s.
Oh, you're fighting.
Yeah.
You know, you're 100.
That's it.
And then after you've done fighting, you guys are shaking hands.
And then you go play a tarry afterward.
That's what we did.
Yeah.
And it was over.
But today, you know, the number one culprit I believe is Snapchat.
Because none of the parents are on Snapchat.
That all the kids are on Snapchat.
Yeah.
And that's where, and that's where it's really happening.
They're coming home.
The videos and the pictures are coming into their own bedrooms.
They can't even get a break at their own home.
And these horrible bullying videos are happening there on social media.
I also think Instagram, because these girls want to look the best.
And then they're constantly editing their, their bodies.
Right.
And getting bullied over their appearances.
Definitely.
I think it's horrible.
Like bullying's 24-7-0.
Bullying's 24-7.
It's terrible.
Yeah, social media.
It's a good thing and a bad thing.
You know, and it also happens to adults.
I can't tell you how you do it.
I get bullied here.
How they have not grown the skin to not care.
I mean, yeah, I get so, because my platform is so controversial.
You should see the threats I get.
You should see the bullying text.
It's just beyond.
And 99.9% of them, I don't take, you know.
But they're just blocked them.
Yeah.
You know, if you're not nice, and I always give everybody one warning.
On my platform, everybody has the benefit of one warning.
And some of the closest relationships I have on my platform are people that I think
are people that attack me.
Because I gave them the one, and I always give one nice warning.
And I always wish them love to them and their family, you know.
And I always remind them that, you know, I'm here for you if you need me.
I love that.
Yeah.
Well, Dale, thanks for the midnight.
Thanks for your time.
Where do people find you, man?
At Tech Talk is the midnight 1-2-3.
On Instagram, it's the midnight 1-2-3 underscore.
And on Facebook, it's Sean Michael, S-H-A-W-N, Michael, M-I-C-H-A-E-L.
Thanks for coming on, brother.
I appreciate everything you do.
Absolutely.
You too.
Check them out, guys.
Peace.
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