New Inde Navarrette Movie Sparks Drama, Adria Arjona is Wonder Woman, Noah Jupe Role in MCU

0:00What's up everybody and welcome to a brand new episode. Oh, I am the character microphone. A brand new episode of the hot mic here on the John Rokie general. I am John Roka joined these always by the end. So I just night. I'm going to that coming out of the clock. We wear a villain shirt. What is that? What is that? Look at that. Oh my God. Hello, Johnny boy. What's going on my man? What is going on? Not much. It's been a crazy last 24 hours being your friend and dealing with the fall outs of you

1:03always is. Yes, true. This is very true. A dealing with the fallout of the comments that you made on Twitter. I want to say to the chat everybody, we are here to talk about entertainment news and we will definitely get to Jeff's tweets and his responses and all this kind of stuff that happened a little bit later on in the show. We're not going to lead with that. So if that's a problem for you, sorry, but we're going to go at our pace. This is a regular show and we will get to all of that stuff and we will talk about it and get through it. Now some of you want us to act a certain way or want me to act a certain way. Well, I'm not your child and I'm not your friend. I am a host and my job here today is to host the show and eventually to have a conversation with Jeff about his tweets because everybody else has got opinions. And I think it's really good to bring the person on who said the tweets and have a conversation with them about what they meant, what their intentions were. And yes, to call out Jeff possibly for some of his responses and some of the things that

2:06he has said. So I think it's fascinating that I was getting shit from people today. We're like, you're a spy list. You're just going to do this and it's like, no, I'm not. This is the show. Jeff and I always battle about stuff he's done and said, or I can't wait to discuss it. Unfortunately, we have other matters at hand. We do. We do. Absolutely. Two to four. I have so many people going, nobody's going to watch your show. There's already 500 people watching right off the bat and it usually takes us about 20 minutes to get to 500. So sorry, person, sorry person with 37 followers. You didn't know what you were talking about. It's like, yeah, exactly. This is all from people who don't follow me, who don't know what to deal with. You guys watch the show every week. You know how I talk? You'll hear me make the same threat a million times today, but go on. We can get the rest of the exacting. So we got so much to talk about here. It's going on in the world of entertainment outside of Jeff's tweet. And we will talk about it a little bit. But if you want to send in your stream, lab super chats, you want to get your voice heard on this show. That's how you do it. You send in your stream, lab super chats. You see it pinned in the chat.

3:07It's a description of the video sending love and you questions, thoughts, and comments. We will address them. Nothing is off the table. If you've got an issue with Jeff's tweet, we'll read it out for sure with anything. With anything sure with anything. We'll read it out for sure. I just want to let you guys know that. But my job is to host the show. And I do want to clarify before we start, guys, this is not staged. I did not ask Jeff to tweet this out so we get more people to watch our show tonight. I swear on the soul of my dead father. This was not a stage, not a stage thing at all. This is just absolutely Jeff posted something, went on and on about it on Twitter. And now we're going to talk about it at some point in the show. But let's get. Let's get. And please I would like to say from as well in the chat, please be civil. I will kick you out of your nasshole. I will kick you out of your shithead. I will. But if you're going to be honest and go back and forth, different opinions are fine. But if you're going to be a dick to other people in the chat or a bitch, I will kick you out. Okay. And that's gender free when I use that term bitch.

4:07All right. Just wanted to clarify that. All right, Jeff. Let's get to some stories here because there's a lot to talk about today. A lot going on in the world of entertainment. But stuff, stuff that broke just as we were starting the show within the last hour. Spider-Man War has been canceled at Amazon. This is a Lord in Miller production. Wasn't this the fight over them breaking out of their contract just to make this show it was made with color true. You was made black and white. They did the show they wanted to do. But in the end, Amazon opted not to renew the series for a second season. The decision coming just three months after the show launched in late May to good reviews. So was it just people didn't watch or was it just a bad situation overall, Jeff? What do you think happened? I mean, I think one season is enough. Like I didn't watch the whole season. So you tell me whether the story resolved itself. But I watched two episodes. I wasn't in a hurry to finish it. I liked what I saw. It was more like I admired the artistry and creativity of everything.

5:11I was like, well, I graded. Never really got it. It's hoaxing me. I can say it. And it's also to me, it was like a tween show in the sense that it was too prestigious for like a basic comic book fan essentially. Right. And to be for like a prestige TV fan. Yeah. I mean, you start with Nicholas Cage, right, who's not necessarily the biggest flavor of the month anymore. You're kind of behind the eight ball. And then you go with a black and white versus a color true hue version, which I think is great because you're doing the show you want to do. But that was bound to make it a little more kind of difficult to get views for this. And in the end, it just wasn't enough, which is a shame. But it seems like they're also working on another Spider-Man property here. So maybe they felt that because this wouldn't quite add up to what they wanted, they're moving on from up. Are they familiar for Lord and Miller? Or is this more of a create like they did what they wanted to do in terms of the show. So they get credit as creators, but like in the end, people didn't watch.

6:13Like, is this egg on their face or no? No, I think that they successfully, I mean, created a show that was probably really difficult to do and difficult to convince people to do. I think the period stuff is tough. I think it has extra layer of difficulty. And the show probably didn't really need that. I mean, it had an edge. It had some real cool actors and like star power stuff. But yeah, it just, and they also didn't really do like the best job marketing it. The top stuff felt like a gimmick, right? And it became like, well, how are you going to watch the show? How are you going to watch the show? Right. It's like, well, are you going to watch the show? It's a better question. Exactly. And in the end, is that what happened? And it didn't. Yeah, it's a shame to overall. So we'll see, we'll see what they do next for sure. Don't listen to me. Well, guy who doesn't know. Okay.

7:14What's your thoughts on this? We got ourselves Barbara, Monica Barbaro and Margaret Quali are up for the friend of their bio pick. Do we like these choices? Yeah. These two seem like distinctly different actresses, although you could say Slender and Brunette, they carry a different kind of energy to the, and Margaret Quali has been dancing up a storm to whoever wants to put her on camera. So, but Monica Barbaro had won night only though it didn't do well, but got nominated for a complete unknown. So, what do you, what do you think about these two being the final two? And who do you think is going to get the tap here to pair with Tom Holland in this film to do this Fredis? And are you surprised it's still happening? Tell me. I mean, I am because I don't know who the audience is for a Fredis air movie in the year 2026, even with Tom Holland, our box office king, right? Um, I mean, neither one of these actresses excites me all that much. I agree. I agree. I have to say, even though they're both good, right?

8:14And they both have their standout movies like Quali's great in the substance. Barbara was really good in the Dylan movie. Yeah. But they're both coming off August bombs. Yes. Right. I just don't, I don't think it matters. I mean, obviously Tom Holland is the star here, but I just don't buy either one of them as like Tom Holland's sister. That's the problem for me. Yeah. Yeah, because I mean, yeah, yeah, I guess you were. You never like to see, you know, like, see, buddy. Who? Tell me. Person from your t-shirt there. What a, uh, Daisy Ridley? Is that who you can see? Yeah, I can see. I can see, oh, sorry. Yeah, we're on the podcast. I have to say. Yeah. Yes. I was nodding. I was nodding then. Yes. I think Daisy Ridley, I buy his Tom Holland sister. Yeah, I could see that 100%. I mean, they're both British. And so it seems to make sense that that would be the way where you could go with that. Yeah. Are we quality in Tom Holland as a brother and sister?

9:15Like, what? No. You know me. I'm not a Margaret quality person. I'm like a Barbara and Tom Holland. No, these aren't brother and sister. Like, these are just names. You're just names that you're trying to cram into the movie. But I'm a question. Is this that big of a role, I guess? I would, because I might thought we'd go right to Ginger Rogers. So why is the sister such a big role in this? Are they focusing on this? I mean, I'm, I don't, again, I don't know the script. I don't know the story that they're telling. I would assume Ginger Rogers is a part of it. Yeah. Maybe it ends with him meeting Ginger Rogers. I mean, I don't know if he's like playing French, there is like an old man, right? Like, I mean, interesting way to, uh, is Daisy a dancer? People can learn how to dance. I mean, she stays there. Yeah, it's talented. You know, but when she got Star Wars today, I was good. Do you know how to swing a lightsaber? Yeah, exactly. Yeah, they'll teach her. It's, it's okay. You relax. We'll pick her up. Yeah, I just don't buy either of those other two. I assume that this is a big role. And if not, then like at least a dominant role for the first hour hour. Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I could see that.

10:16Um, the other thing, another thing we talked about, or we could talk about Jeff is that Mobland season three has got a renewal. And Tom Hardy is officially returning to be a part of this. After all this drama and it was a shame. I mean, they're letting him back after everything he did. How dare people? Apparently a meeting took place in London with the team, quote, coming to a great understanding about a path board and things working out of what out in a way that ultimately led to this announcement. Jeff, do you approve of people shooting their mouths off and still getting a chance to come back to their projects? I don't know. Do you approve of this? I think I do. I think, you know, again, I don't think that the show necessarily needed Tom Hardy. And I think Tom Hardy's probably better than a Paramount Plus show. Yeah. Um, you know, I'm glad he's back. I'm glad that they figured things out. Uh, talent, you know, should, there should be certain rules for talent. So like other other, a little bit of leniency. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Show, um, you know, sometimes he's late.

11:16Uh, I don't know if it was like a Dwayne Johnson. I mean, I'm not in a situation. Um, yeah, yeah. But anyways, you know, I'm not on the fucking set. I'm a moblin. That wasn't my story. I don't know all the ins and outs of it. I'm just, you know, a fan of the show and excited to see it. Yeah, what a, uh, where does it? Yeah, but I, you have to wonder what you're told. I mean, like, Tom's out here rapping. Are we going to get Tom on Tom Hardy track on mob land season three? Yeah, almost certainly almost certainly. I was like, had to be part of the deal. It's like, listen, I'll come back. But if you let me back, you need to, you use one of my songs. Oh, oh, oh, oh, man. All right. I might start rapping after this. I might have to put a mask on my head and become a mass rapper. I wonder who you could be. That's a great point. Um, what about this, man? What are your feelings about Ridley Scott right now? I mean, he's, he's, I was going to say, my, my name would be Indie J. I never ready. We're not there yet. We're not there yet for cuts. Indie J.

12:17Yeah, I like that. I like that. Um, what are your thoughts on this? Speaking of people shooting their mouths off, but bro, what are we going to do with octogenarian Ridley Scott here? Talking about about the, about how alien Romulus was just okay. He's got to come in and save it. And now he is blaming Paul Muscal for a gladiator to not working. Then he said that he didn't say that. Yeah. Yeah, he said he didn't say that, but he actually said it. So what I didn't say that he never ready stuff either. Yes. Jesus Christ. We're going to get there. Go ahead. God, you go. I'm stepping on your lines. Ridley Scott. Oh, yeah, turn that off. Yeah, I did, did resurrection kill the franchise? Uh, I mean, yeah, he's not, he's not really wrong about that. It was the fourth one. Right. Yeah, I thought it would might be alien three, but alien three, I think was actually successful. We just think of it as a failure because ventures unhappy with it. But I actually am a big fan of alien three.

13:18Yeah. And then I think if we were to look up the numbers, it's not nearly the flat that we think it is. Yeah, I mean, he said that Paul, he claimed that Paul Muscal wasn't, quote, masculine enough. And I thought there was such a ridiculous thing to say when you're the one that fucking cast him in the first place to be in the goddamn movie. So to say he's not masculine enough, I think his utter nonsense. And why are you coming for this young actor who committed so much time and energy and effort, both in the gym outside the gym on the set to try to build, to try to bring your vision to life? Why you shouldn't like if I'm a young actor, the last guy I want to work with, there's really Scott after comments like this. And I also think there's an arrogance. It's what we want. John, don't we want honesty from these guys where it's like, hey, Ridley, you made a big bomb. Like what do you think was actually the problem with it? And he's like, you know what? I think I think I missed cast it. Yeah, right? Because we want. Yeah, I know. Yeah, exactly. I don't know. I don't know, man. I just, I just go, I don't know if this guy's done a good movie since 2015, Jeff, a genuinely good movie.

14:19Why are we going to, why are we still listening to him about it? To be honest with you, I don't know why we're still listening to him about anything. I know we love the nostalgia. I know we love those old movies of Ridley's and it's totally fair. But like this is like, say Michael Jordan should still be playing in the NBA at 60 years old. At some point, like it's over and you're not able to get there. Even score, Saisy is making arguably good movies, technically good movies, but they're not necessarily getting as over as they should or Spielberg is still making technically good. Ridley's not like really is making a lot of bombs after bombs after bombs. I mean, 2015 is the Martian. That's the last one he had. So at some point, like, are we done revering this guy? It's a little ridiculous, in my opinion. I think that the bloom is a little bit off the rose. I think it's like a sea has maybe changed a little bit since, you know, when we think about the Ridley Scott from a decade ago coming on. Right. Right. Right. But listen, he's always going to be one of the greats. You don't stop being one of the greats. That's true. You're one of the greats. You're one of the greats, you know, I guess.

15:21Yeah, I guess. You don't stop until you tweet it something. Okay. Again, God damn it. Again. Well, let's move on to this, man. Let's move on to these comments from Gal Gadot talking about Wonder Woman 3. She was saying how what the hell is going on with this thing? Okay. This is so weird. This thing. She revealed that because she thought she was what is hold on. What are you looking at over? This is supposed to be dark horizons. But I don't know why this message is hot linked. I don't know what's going on. Maybe he doesn't like that I'm sharing. But he was asked about Wonder Woman 3 and she revealed that she was actually told the opposite about the ending of Wonder Woman 3. She said that they were like, we're going to develop with you the third Wonder Woman movie. But I saw the way everybody else was handled right. The Henry Caval situation was not handled elegantly to say the least, same with Patty Jenkins. It was not handled elegantly. I feel like we're all adults and it's all good and it's not even about them. They are there and they're there to do what they believe in. It's all good. I'm so grateful. I got to have to do a deep blah, blah, blah. But basically, there's been a split.

16:22People are saying she didn't say that she has left the project. She didn't say any of that. And other people are interpreting it after she's making very clear that she's the one that left and that James Gunn wanted her to come back. But she's the one that said no because of how they treated Henry and Patty Jenkins. So what do you think is the truth here? Is this brand saving or is this honesty from Gal Gadot about what happened in this meeting and this Wonder Woman 3 situation? I love the bait that you tee up for me, you treat me. It's just like let me sprinkle a little chum in the water and now the shocks will come. Where are you at? What do you think about Gal's thoughts on Palestine? I didn't ask you that. It's got nothing to do with movies. I'm fucking fucking good. I think she's, I think at the humor. Like we said, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, no, eventually they had to come clean as soon as they got their new Wonder Woman's

17:26I don't know who that could be. I wonder, I wonder. So yeah, it was finally time to be like, hey, so we moved on. So now it's time to tell you it's like, oh, yeah, like I know that I have a movie to promote. It was I didn't want to be a part of your universe. I was content after my second Wonder Woman outing which was abysmal. It's a little frustrating because first of all, the runner is, I think it's a little bit higher than it was, but it was at 9% just to come there. I don't care. I don't care. I don't care. I don't care. I don't care. I don't care. I don't care. I don't care. I don't care. I don't care. I don't care. I don't care. I don't care. So the problem with the runner is that you have Galgato on a phone the whole movie, right? Yes. To the bad guy. And it's like the last actress on the planet who should be on the phone for an entire movie. Like, what do you do?

18:28Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So the problem isn't really, and like she's fine. Like the movie is her running around. Like she's actually very, a very good runner. What do you want me to say? That's the fucking movie. Yeah. It wasn't very good. But this, this to me is, and I wonder if maybe she's due, she did all this to kind of take away from the fact that the movie was terrible and she knew it was going to be terrible. And so I'd rather get them talking about this one-to-woman situation than focusing on the runner, right? And you know, you don't think so? Okay. Galgato doesn't care. I wonder, turned out she doesn't care. Thank you for the runner. She just wants you to watch the runner. She just wants you to think Galgato's the one you see her face on a prime video and you open the app, you're going to click on the movie and be like, oh yeah, Galgato, yeah, yeah, that movie doesn't seem like she's talking about let's check it out. Like that's the whole point of doing these interviews. I guess. And to be fair, the movie did really well for streaming for the first day came out.

19:30Right. One of the highest debuts on the day. So I still came out. This is the biggest prime video movie. Today. We've got the word today. Remember, it just says the biggest prime video movie, basically. That's click, that's a click. But what do you think about her comments about just one last thing on the one-to-one thing? She said she's going to come back and do it unless Zack Snyder is directing it. This is her covering herself, right? In the Snyderverse, like playing to the Snyderverse fans, making sure they're on her side. I mean, this is. She's. She's. She. Who cast her as Wonder Woman? Yeah, exactly. Yeah, yeah, yeah. She owns her entire life and career to this guy, basically. Like, what do you mean? I mean, I know she's did other movies before him, but yeah, like she's going to stay loyal to this guy and be like, well, I'm only back at peace back. He should be back. You know, guess what? Neither of them are fun coming back. Move on. How are we still talking about Gal Gadot as Wonder Woman, the year 2026? We should be talking about the new Wonder Woman who also has a new movie opening this weekend.

20:30That's also not very good. One more thing. One more thing. Gal Gadot was also in the news for her AI situation on this film Bitcoin. For people who don't know about this, this is an upcoming film that she is doing here. And she spoke about this Doug Lyman directed film and said that it was six months from her lawyers to go through every scenario they could think of as far as the AI component of it. This is still in the same conversation with Josh Horowitz on the Happy Sad Confused podcast. She said, I did not want AI to have anything to do with my performance. If there's anyone who could use AI for their performance, it is Gal Gadot. So that's an ironic line. But she said, we had to protect that to such an extent that Sad call my lawyers to ask for pointers to update the Sad contract to protect other actors. Oh, I've helped everybody. As far as the performance is, it's all me. But you know, they've been talking about this film for quite some time, Jeff. They saved money on it. They did use AI, AI sets for all of this stuff. So what do you think? And she's saying that people need to get on board because the train has already left

21:32the station. So if she wants to keep working, she's got to figure out how to work with AI. So is this a bad message or is this a brutally honest message from Gal Gadot about AI if you're an actress? I think it's a brutally honest message because actors are going to be asked to work with it more and to sign away certain rights and they should be educated and know what they're signing away and know what they need to protect. Yeah, yeah. But yeah, of course, there's a little score outside. Yes, of course, it's going to be, you know, happening more and more. I think, you know, with that movie, you're either going to watch it or you're not. I think that ultimately it's like the same amount of people are going to watch it. It comes down to the story. There will be people who say, I'm not going to watch this fucking movie because it's AI. And then there's going to be people like, we're going to be like, well, actually, wasn't that interested before, but because it's AI, I'm curious how it looks. Can I, will I be able to tell? So it's going to totally balance out and it'll perform just like any other low budget, Doug Lyman movie, starring Pete Davidson. Yeah.

22:33Yeah. Yeah. Good point. All right. Let's move on to the other one that we were taught. The other bond, the other wonder woman we think here, Adria, they released like a one minute video of her talking about. I think it's women's health or whatever she was showing. She essentially said, the excitement of playing the woman that I'm playing gives me everything I need to wake up physically. It's exhausting, but it's all for the greater good. She goes in to talk about how she wakes up, does about 45 minutes of cardio, two hours of weights, then eat something, comes back, does the punches. You see their boxing and punching getting ready for this kind of stuff and then gets a little bit of bite. Then it's back to working out. So it's an intense amount of stuff that she's doing. It is for women's health. So Jeff, is she essentially telling us that she's playing wonder woman or is this a fucking swerve where she's throwing these little little seeds out there, little tips out there by saying the word woman to say to reference the character and tricking us all.

23:35What do you think? And this guy James Gunn has a Mandy, right? Yes. It's to fucking get the characters Superman, Batman and Wonder Woman on the screen. Yeah. In inversions of people like what woman do you think she's playing? I think he's introducing another female character. It's like, why would we prioritize that character over the introduction of Wonder Woman, whose physical description she fits to it's a. Yes. I just think it's so silly this like Sadie Sink type game, this bandit, Comber Badge type game, this mystery box, like who are we fooling, who are we kidding, why are we doing this? Yeah, yeah. And when are we coming clean? Like is it the first teaser? I assume it'll be the first teaser. Right. Right? Like it's getting louder and louder and louder to the point where we're going to have to see her soon. Yeah. I mean, yeah, because at some point it becomes inevitable and they've got it, they've

24:35got it. And something that's going to go, there's going to be a photo or something that gets released on the set, don't you think? Am I pixelated guys? Am I still pixeled? Jeff, do you see me as pixelated right now? Oh, baby, you look crystal clear. I said, I don't know what's going on. People think I got a pixelated. You're a little, well, yeah, you're a little pixelated. Am I? All right, let me go out and come back in. Try not to do it as stupid. Try not to do anything stupid. Jeff's night are taken over the show, guys. Hold on, I'm getting a call from you. No, I'm not getting any fun. People are checking in. Very nice of them. I appreciate it. Been through before. Yeah. Why am I now? Am I better now? Am I better now? No. Oh, god damn. I'm going on that everybody. I don't know what this is. I apologize. Who cares? Who cares how we look? It's about the voice. It's about the things that we say. It's true. That's true. Speaking of which, keep setting in your stream. Lab super chats so we can hear what you have to say about what we're talking about here. I'm so fast. I can't do no. How are actual viewers and regulars feel about this?

25:38Yeah. We'll get to it just a second. But you want to ask about a couple more things, Jeff, where we get there. The James Bond casting timeline has apparently cleared up, Jeff. A new report from Puck News indicates that Amazon MGM Studios casting process for the next James Bond is entering a new phase. The company is sending out test deals to actors in the running for the role for our far stronger indicators than online casting speculation and acting test deals essentially a binding contract signed immediately before a final screen test, which pre-negotiates an actor salary length of a commitment and exclusivity terms for a role such a deal indicates the former screen test with director of a Denis DeLinoux are getting much, much closer. The report also adds that all the recent frontliners being named in the press are basically bogus and that anyone who says they know who Bond is now does it in just a refresher memory. Previous names included Calum Turner, Jacob

26:43Matt Bellany of the trades, it's not true. I didn't confirm today was Friday, so who knows what day it is. It's really something. Yeah, that list was obviously nonsense. A totally bogus list of contenders as I told you in the newsletter titled Bond BS. But thank you for clearing everything up. It's better Matt than Peter Hanby who is eating a lot of crow this week over the Pobletori situation. You should listen to Matt Bellany for sure. Listen to Pobletori and people who need dependent journalism, right? I mean, this sort of illuminates the power of it all. Yeah, shout out to Poblet. I didn't I have watched a new one today. I can't wait to dive into the Mark Walter one a little bit later on and digest all of that new breakdown as well. But I'm going to say this, the NBA stuff. I think Barmer's guilty as hell. Let him pay the price, but Kauai got away with murder.

27:43Kauai got away with murder. Um, all right. What else do I want to ask you about? And half the way. What about Anne Hathaway? Okay. What do you want to say about Anne Hathaway? Go ahead. I was just about to get to that. I was literally just about to get to that. So let me, let me bring this up because this is how I do the time codes is looking at these situations. Oh, John. No, John, give me your best bad boys quote. You're fucking with my time table. Oh, best bad boys quote. We came to borrow some sugar. That's my best bad boy quote. Um, let's see, where's it? Nicole Kim has been offered days of thunder to what? Those hope in Nicole Kim will return for days of thunder and equate, including it may possibly get their wish. And this is a rumor that is dancing around right now that a source to rate our online said it's big leap for Nicole to jump onto a bro movie like Days of Thunder II for male director from the Seth Rogen University of Frepoi Committees, even if she's just going to do a signature one, one scene cameo and asked to be creatively perfect for her

28:44to do it. The ball is in the calls and only Nicole's court only. And of course, this is all being reported a couple of days after we got the big news that Anne Hathaway has joined the cast of days of thunder to much to Randy quads, Shagrin who recorded a video saying that he was going to be in it and then posted a bunch of tweets bashing Anne asking for Nicole to come back. So Jeff, what's your thoughts on all of this? I actually have scoop. Oh, go ahead. What if I told you I won't use this excuse for me. I'll take full responsibility. Okay, okay. What if I told you that Randy quads didn't make those tweets? What didn't post those tweets bashing Anne Hathaway? Nope. Okay. Who do you think did them? It was his wife. Oh, that's what you're hearing. Are you saying that's what you've heard? Are you saying what if I know for a fact that it was his wife who posted those tweets, not Randy. That's correct. Is did she do that so that Randy wouldn't get the movie that torpedo him being in the movie?

29:46Like what was the logic? I think you're over thinking it. I think it's just a lady who doesn't like Anne Hathaway who got a hold of her husband's to an hurricane. Wow, wow. That makes no sense to me. Why would you do that? Well, on the other side then, what do you think about, go ahead, go ahead. She just runs everything. She takes care of the guy. What do you think about Anne Hathaway joining Tom Cruise? In fact, you know what I heard the situation, whatever to relate it to is Stanley. What? I remember like Stanley was like, you know, he had people taking care of him and taking a day off of him and all that shit. Wow. Okay. All right. But anyways, I'm not here to fucking stand up for Randy. Yeah, yeah. You got enough troubles. What about your, what about Anne Hathaway joining the cash as a team owner and engineer? Doesn't this feel like F1? And this has smells like F1? What do you think?

30:46Yeah, I mean, if you're a parent when you be trying to replicate the success of F1, which made $600 million worldwide and technically Tom Cruise performs better, I would say, on average, than Brad Pitt does. Yes. Sure. No, particularly in like, you know, this is IP obviously F1 was IP in a way as well. Right. But you know, it's a sequel to like an 80s, a hit 80s, cruise movie or whatever. Was 80s or early 90s? It was 80s. Yes. It was a couple years after Top Gun. Tony Scott directing it. Yeah, that's absolutely 88 or nine or like 99. But I should name drop my friend Griffin Schiller who has been going all crazy on Twitter. Well, I mean, that in a playful way about days of Thunder 2 and asking who the hell wants this? Well, I have to address my brother on our show to say, I want this. And there's a lot of us who want to see a days of Thunder 2. And I think that feeling of nostalgia of Tom getting back into the car and having some fun with this, it makes a lot of sense. But brother, you got to bring the call back.

31:47Don't you like, I'm just, I'm just started lioness season three last night, fucking great season. And she's so good in this goddamn show. I want Nicole Kidman in this and it doesn't have to be creatively correct. That's nonsense. It's got to be handled tastefully. But she's got to come back, bro, doesn't she? What was her role in the first movie? She was a doctor for him who became the love interest as the film went on and they had a great romance by the end. They were together. So here's the thing. Okay. Because like as soon as this project we were, it was announced Jamie and I were like, oh, yeah, like the best move I think would be bringing back Nicole. Now they didn't think they have an pathway as the female lead, which is a strong choice. Yes. I think if you can get Nicole, figure out a way to bring her back. The thing is that I don't know if Nicole loves being around him. And so if she came back, would she be open to a scenario where she doesn't have a scene with him?

32:48The scene is he sends the new driver. So he's like, I got the perfect doctor for you to talk to or whatever the hell it is for you to go see. And then it's the new person and he's getting his, I don't know what kind of doctor she was. He's getting his knee wrapped. And he's like, so I heard you know, you know, Tom Cruise is character, you know, and she's like, yeah, we had a couple of rats laps around the track. You know, like I can write this shit in my fucking sleep, guys. I think she was a brain doctor. A brain doctor. For his concussions and stuff. So maybe that could work. I could, and then maybe they're on the phone, but they're not actually on the phone, right? There's a scene where he's reading lines. She's reading lines, but they're not actually doing the scene together. I could see that happening as a way of getting around it. Sure. Yeah. They don't necessarily have to be on set together because just not sure if that's going to be her bag. She may also just be like, I don't want to be a fucking part of this. I don't need to be part of these headlines for the next year. Yeah. What does she need it for? He just says, days of thunder sucks. You suck, PJ. That was a fun, Saturday afternoon movie, Turn Your Brain Off movie, for sure.

33:49I would love to see you come back. All right. At the halfway point of this first hour of the show, I just want to say, first of all, thank you all so much for watching our show. We've got almost 900 people watching us right now. And I was told no one was going to watch the show tonight. So cut on these supplies. Thank you to everybody who's joining us live. If you want to subscribe to the channel, appreciate you hitting that subscribe button, hit that bell button, let know what you think about everything we're going on, sending your chats. And Jeff, you know, they can, where can they subscribe to your newsletter to see your break your opinions on all the insniter.com, which is the most entertaining newsletter about the world of entertainment. That exists. Okay. There are others that are a little bit more informative, just a little bit. There are others that are a little bit more, you know, business-y and we'll get that the cool interviews and things like that. But nobody, nobody writes with the voice and the experience that I have in this industry. Oh my God. Oh my God. Okay. All right.

34:49Well, the time has come. The time has come for us to have this conversation, Jeff. So it may get heated. It may get crazy up in here, but I want to say this ahead of time. We're going to set up the conversation and then we're going to have it. But as I said before, I think it's important to go to the person who wrote the tweets, to have a conversation about them and not just do a 15-minute segment without that person or a 20-minute segment without that person. We want to go to the horse's mouth. So let's set this whole thing up correctly first. So this week it was announced, or a couple days ago, it was announced that Indy Navaretti's next film, she has set to start in a film called The Waffle House Index. Which Louis Paxton is slated to direct from Apple Studios and Plan B. Andrew Nudley penned the film that follows a character named Jane who works the graveyard shift at a Waffle House. What begins this regular day progressively gets worse and worse with one stormy, apocalyptic event following another.

35:51Navaretti will also serve as an EP and she's in high demand after her session. Scooper, Jeff Snyder, first reported that the actress was up for the role a few weeks back on the hot mic, but it was only now confirmed by the traits today. And I think it was Boris Kit who did the initial confirming. I don't know, but that's who I got the article from. But Jeff, as they point out there in dark, dark horizons, we broke this back in July. You did, broke this back in July. You had heard it as a possibility and other people were taking credit. And so is this the reason why you tweeted out what you tweeted out? And I will bring it up just to be fair. If I can find it all the way down here after your incredible day of going through all this stuff. There's so many tweets. There's like 1000 tweets. You wrote, I plan to write about Indian Navaretti for a long time. I can be a useful friend to our team or I can share literally everything I hear about her. The best part is they get to this side.

36:52I can forgive being ghosted this summer. I won't forget, but I can forgive dot, dot, dot, just not twice. So let's deal with your tweet and let me do the answer question. Did you tweet this because you were upset about the Waffle House index story going to other scoopers when you had kind of, when you had broken this on the hot mic in July. Is that the reason? Well, first of all, there's nothing to be angry about because we broke it. Yes. Yes. Right. So I'm really, and then this is like my fatal flaw, right? It's not enough for me to win. I have to let you know that I want, right? And that's my Achilles heel. Right. So was it a smart thing to tweet this out? No. In hindsight, if I could go back in time and save myself this hassle because God knows how many hours it's eaten off my life. Yeah. I would not make the tweet.

37:55So, but the thing is, right, when I think about tweets, the tweets are for you guys. I don't pretend that Indy NaviReady is reading my tweets, right? Right. I'm told someone it's like an intern at CAA is like passed with reading my tweets or whatever, but I don't kid myself that the corporate communications department has time to read my tweets. So really? And the tweets are a performative thing for the audience, right? It is a good pot of show because when you look at the actual communication, then I'm not lying. This is all documented. Right. Right. No communication with Indy NaviReady. Zero. Okay. Just say I've threatened her. It's kind of hilarious. And the only communication with CAA and with Indy's publicist were the initial email, which is saying, hello, so and so, how are you? I'm told Indy is in talks for this movie.

38:57Blah blah blah blah blah. Can you confirm on background? Thanks for checking. Best Jeff. Very nice. I laid the text of the email out in my newsletter. And I didn't hear back. And so, and I didn't expect to hear back. Right. Right? Like. Yeah. So. So I come on our podcast and I. I'm going to say what I say and I let the can out of the bag and you know, I didn't know if it was true or not. Right. Right. I was like, take this with a grain of salt, but this is what I'm hearing. And it's come from a legitimate place. I wouldn't share with you if it wasn't coming from a legitimate place. And it's a bummer that I have to share it with you. This in this manner. And then I can't just write it. Yeah. Because nobody responded. But I wait for kind of like the newsletter. How much everything in the newsletter is confirmed. Okay. Right. But pretty much everything. And so there's a distinction between the podcast and the newsletter and to me, it was like,

39:57oh, I'm seeing all these people credit out of it. And I get it. It's because Apple picked up the package. Now there's a director on I had said, I don't know where this is who's going to make this movie. I don't know who's directing this movie. All I know is this is a script. And there's a rule in it. And she's attached to it basically. Right. Right. So it's very, I get triggered when I'm ignored. Like engage with me. Like, say, we don't want to deal with you. Say no comment. But just like the silence. It doesn't work for me. Right. And if people think it's going to work and then I'm just going to go away because I didn't get an answer from you, it's not really what my business is built on. It's now built on rumor speculation here. Say, which is news. That's the thing. What is the news guys? Is the news when somebody signs on to a movie and the trades announced it? But that they've been papering that deal for two months. So is that when the news is or is the deal when they figure out is the news when they figure out who's going to play the role?

40:58Right. Right. Right. Regardless of when it is. If I'm reaching out to you as a reporter in good faith and saying, Hey, I've heard this. I'm a legitimate guy with a legitimate question. You don't want to engage with me. What do you think the expectation is? The expectation is that you're going to you got to do what you got to do, right? That's what I hear all the time. Do what you got to do, right? Now what I didn't have to do was rub it in, right, but to be clear, the idea that I'm picking on Indy Navarredi or because she's a woman is absurd. First of all, you don't even know the gender of the CIA, Corpcom person and her and her public. They both out just before coming. They happen to be women, but no one knew that, right? Right. They just have she could have had a male public. That's the thing. It doesn't matter. It's an equal opportunity offender thing. And that's why later today, I posted a thing with Fred Hackinger, which was way worse

41:58basically, right? Because it was two stories in a row about fucking Fred Hackinger where it's like, I'm doing you guys this favor. You're asking me to sit tight. You're going to get me an answer. And then somebody else breaks it. What the fuck are you waiting for? What am I holding for you? I don't need you to get the information about your clients. So if I don't need you, right, maybe I shouldn't vocalize. I don't need you, but that's all this was. If you're not going to engage with me, right, then the consequence of that, whether this should be spoken out loud or not, is that I'm going to just say every single fucking thing I hear about your client. Because all of you guys watching this show right now want to click on every single thing that Indy Navarredi is doing, whether she's reading a script, meeting a director, you don't give a shit. So don't tell me, right, I'm just doing my job. I'm feeding the fucking internet mill what they want to hear.

43:00Blame yourselves. I'm just the messenger. I got to stop you now. You've got you've you've presented stuff in this situation and you've given a full throw to explanation because I watched Campi a second, which I thought was a good segment on this and he broke it down. He thought that you were holding something back about Indy Navarredi. Right. Can I address that? Yeah, it's why I want to bring it up. So let me set it up for people who didn't watch it. Yeah. You were holding something back that you knew personally about Indy Navarredi. Maybe some rumor, maybe something about her and that that's what sparked you to send this to post this tweet. But I always took this tweet as being connected to the waffle house story is John wrong. Were you holding on to something because that connects to what people think they've read this tweet and they think you are threatening her physically. They think you are going out. You're going to be outside her window and creeping right. Were you address all of this? People aren't insane. Yeah. Like the Internet.

44:00Yeah. But like truthfully, when I fuck up and I've been through this situation multiple times, how many times do I know John? How many times? How many times? You've been through them. Yes. I've been through this before and I get texts and calls being like, dude, or did you really say this? Oh man, how do you feel about this? With every single thing I got today, it was people are fucking nuts. People hate me for some reason, John. I can't explain it. I don't know. I can explain. I have a bigger purchase in this industry than I think I do. Do I live in these people's heads rent free? I don't know why people are for lack of a better word. Obsessed with me. That's not what's going on. You don't think so? No, definitely think so because no other person, whether it's on this podcast, what I, like, with the absurd. Right. Should we just bring this up now? The absurd James Gun thing. This is what? Where I'm like, I'm literally just, we had, I didn't address it all week, right?

45:03And Campio was asking me to. I didn't address this all week, including on Twitter. What an absurd story. I'm sitting here having a conversation with you being like, yeah, he just, he just extended, right? Like I read this somewhere. Oh, right. And everyone goes, he just extended. He just extended. Oh my God. Holy shit, guys. You guys are fucking nuts. Don't look at me. It's you. You are the problem. I have to say that I think you're not 100% right on this because you create this environment yourself because you say things like, I'm, I'm going to tell you the truth. I'm, you need to follow me, you need to watch me, you need to read my newsletter because I will tell you what's the truth about what's going on. James Gunn had extended his contract. You don't think you would have had. Of course, I'm not saying, I'm not excusing people running off half-cocked. That's the internet just like they did with your tweet. They run off-hawked and so nuts. I also think you play into the media of the internet. I love it. Of course I do. I'm trolling all these people because what do they expect? John, they want to be able to say, right, whatever they want.

46:06Right. And not hear back, right? They just want to be able to tee off and kick someone video in their down and not get punched back. Right. But I punch back and people don't know what to do with that, right? Well, because some of the ways you punch back are a little, you know, a little much of it. A little much of it. A little much of it. I don't know. I don't mean to hurt. But like someone like Rachel Lysman, you were like, you should worry about getting a job. That's a shitty thing to say, Jeff. Like I mean, that is what she just said what you tweet it was. Who started it? Who started it? Yeah. I just told you. She said it and she's been after me for years. So literally fuck. Okay. I don't know the story of it. I don't know the fuck about this lady. Like I don't exist to me. You don't exist to me. I don't exist to you. Look in the other fucking direction. Okay. Like holy shit. I don't know what it is. She's just one of these like fucking nut cases. So she started it. She started it. That's all these people. Valerie complex. I want like oh my god. I believe me. I want to tee off on her.

47:06You started it. So if you have something to say to me, be ready for me to say something back. Because I'm not the kind of mother fucker who's going to let it slide. Yeah. And I hear what you're saying. But I also think you can play the bigger person in these situations because why I don't know what I'm not going to say. I'm not the bigger person. John, there you go. I'm tired of it. But I don't know what you get out of going crazy like this. And I will say crazy and putting posting so many tweets about this because then people start to question who you are. Question if you're going through a manic episode. I'm not mental health issues. There's all this stuff. That's what people are trained and positely to think someone who's fighting back must be insane. Why would they not bend the machine? Sure, but don't you think the better response after your tweet was not to say this is a threat, not not a complaint? That wasn't the best thing to say. That is you go. That's what you go after her personally. It's not. I'm not going to be outside of the window like there was a way to address that what about

48:07the window. Who is thinking that I don't know a lot of people. A lot of people were saying that you were essentially going to creep on her. People are insane. I know. I listen. Trust me. I put out a couple of tweets that people. I get it. There are editors and companies who make the decisions based on what the people of Twitter think. This is where their brains go. Jeff's going to be outside someone's home. I don't know where she lives. I don't even know if she lives in Los Angeles. What are you talking about? Right. I broke the story. Right. But that's what I thought what I clarify because I want to bring up your tweet again. I hope I have it on the side. I definitely should not have posted the threat. That's ego hubris narcissism. Right. So what? The fact is that is how I operate. And you know what? I don't crawl into your fucking work emails. Everybody out there and see how you fucking operate. This is how I operate. And guess what? I've been able to operate for 20 years, 10 of those years outside of the trades independently. And guess where I live?

49:08Santa Monica, California. So it's like I've been pretty successful. I don't really need anybody's fucking advice on how to be a journalist. I know what the fuck I'm doing for people in this world are allowed to criticize me. Boris Justin Mike Amberto. If you're not your name, I don't give a fuck what you think because you've never been in this fucking position. So shut the fuck up. Okay. Take notes and learn something or block and mute me. I don't give a fuck. But that's my, I don't give a fuck. But that's my question to you is like, if these people don't matter, I would say the standing body. If these people don't matter, why are you responding to them? I guess it's fun. I love getting people to cry out. People cry out up and I love putting on a show. I'm a performer. And I put it in. Is it worth alienating some people who would normally like you or someone? If anyone would be alienated by my tweets, right? After, especially after like following me for years, following my newsletter, following this show, like then I don't really give a fuck. Like goodbye. Good riddance.

50:09These are fake fans fake. Like give me a break. I had one lady reach out and she was like, I used to teach here you all the time in my journalism class. You know, and you know, it was a while ago, but after seeing today I'm glad I stopped. It's like, well lady, you stopped before all this. So you know what? Fuck off. Like, thanks a lot. But you know, I hate to learn journalism from you because you've never broken a story. And that's really the problem is that you have a bunch of people in journalism school teaching these fucking kids and they have no idea how to fucking act. They come out and they're like, what do you think you go trick or treating? You think I'd go to see a ring the doorbell and ask her a fucking scoop? I take. I take. That is how I feed myself. Why? Because I have been shunned. I have been blacklisted. People are like calling for you to be blacklisted. Guys, I hate to break it to you. This happened 10 years ago. You're literally 10 years late. I've already been blacklisted. Okay. I'm still here because I'm extraordinary at what I do.

51:10So I'm not 100% and in fact, my percentage will continue to go down the more places I can't confirm stories, but so be it's because nobody cares. Nobody cares if you miss a few as long as you get a few right. Well, yeah, and to be fair, you did get the Sadie Sink one right and the wall for all right. I could have named five stories, Matt Damon and power fucking power Rangers shake. You can be great. Like every five times a week, they fucking cite my shit. Because I'm fucking good at what I do and nobody respects it anymore. Okay. Well, I think that's not true. I think people do respect you. And the thing is, why do you want them to respect you? If you just said the only four people who you care about are the four people you name, whose respect you actually wore on my readers. I care about my, I don't want to see fucking email from a subscriber saying I'm canceling my script disruption over this. Oh, you haven't got no one has no one has told you they're canceling your subscribers. They're going to be all canceling on their own. Right. But I get a lot of cancel, you know, a fair amount of churn with a newsletter and a lot

52:13of people don't can't figure it out right and they say, Hey, can you cancel me? I have not received a single email about that. And even if I did, I wouldn't give a shit because if you're canceling my newsletter over tweets, right? It's like these are two different things. Okay. Okay. Like I'm going to get off Twitter if you can't handle it. If you can't handle the, yeah, but you don't. Journalism journalists to behave a certain way because they're journalists. Like, you know what? I don't want to be a journalist anymore. Don't call me journalists. From now on. Right. But I guess I'm trying to get at though. It's like I think you're doing yourself a disservice by responding to these people in such at times vitriolic, angry, toxic ways. I don't see the logic in why you're doing that because you don't need to see the logic. Well, because I see the logic because, okay, John, you know, let me ask you the show. You're hurting your, see, that's where you're wrong. I was just about to say, where's the logic, John? How many people did we just say? We're watching. There's over 1,000 people watching. John, when's the last time we had 1,000 people watching the show? It's been a bit for sure.

53:15It's been a bit. Yeah. I'm like seven to 800, yes. Exactly. And there's more people watching the show, right? Because it's just like Howard Stern, okay? People watch what they hate. And so I'm happy to be that guy. If there needs to be a villain, a film Twitter, I'm happy to be that guy. I'm happy to be the guy who on behalf of everybody else kicking me while I'm down, right? And giving me shit. Who do you think is fighting the fight for the little guy in this situation? If you get a casting scoop at joebobfuck.com, right? And you're the proper protocol is to go to a publicist, to go to an agency, and they don't respond. And they either fuck you, right? And leak it to somebody else. I mean, it's happened to a Zillian other sites. I'm sure it has, right? Right. Like, I'm fighting that fight for you. I'm not going to be ignored. And if you want to ignore me, all the better. Because then I can just post away and not feel a lick of fucking remorse.

54:15The hope, like literally all of this, John, is because I want to be a good guy. I want to do things for you. How could you say that? How could you say that? How could you say that? I did things the right way, John. I did things the right way. Okay. I'll get you blame my approach. I did things that the way I would stop to do them. Okay. Okay. I'm going to stop engaging. Yes. Then it's on. If you don't do a guy, seriously, and don't think I'm worthy of a reply, right? Right? If you don't think I'm worthy of a reply, then I don't think that you're worthy of getting a heads up on anything I fucking hear about your clients. So that's what I like to be fair. I'm already doing this. To be like for a lot of people, right? I'm already fucking whatever I hear. I'll fucking put it out there. I'll just select few and I tried to give Indy Navaretti the benefit of the doubt. For a team. Navar specifically. Her team. Let's clarify that. Her team, right? No. Okay. No, no, no. Her specifically.

55:16She's new. Right. Like I haven't done a casting story about Indy Navaretti before. Yes. Right? This is the first time I've reached out in an official capacity. Right. And maybe they were upset about the goblin of it all, right? Which was very true. Obviously, at the time that I put that out. But this is the first time I've reached out in an official capacity because every star deserves that, right? Like, and every star should be treated differently, right? You're a publicist and I have a problem with a client. Like, I don't know that that problem should necessarily carry over to another client. But if that's the way you want to do it, again, we can rock and roll. Like, I just, I don't need the confirmation as a journalist. I will run everything as a rumor and never post another exclusive. Again, if that's the way they want to play it, I don't want to play it like that because I have a conscience because I'm a good guy. Other people just post. They say, why are you causing yourself all this drama? Just do whatever you want. But I can't, I cannot give you the good guy thing. If you're out here going toe to toe with people and saying like some people called out my,

56:20my comments to people, but I don't have like, I'm not Jeff Snyder. I don't have the industry footprint that other people do. So yes, I will call some people dickless wonders because I don't care, right? But for you, there is a desire to be seen as a legitimate journalist, a legitimate journalist. I am a legitimate journalist. Yes, I know. But you've said like you don't get the respect. But like how does responding to these, nobody's who say this stuff and you get upset. Well, I don't want to say nobody's in terms, I mean, nobody's to you is what I meant. And you're going to respond to them and say, like, don't you think a publicist or executive or a creative seizure responding to these way in this way and goes like, well, I don't want to take them seriously because he does stuff like this. Isn't this kind of cutting your, cutting your legs out from under yourself, like self-destructive? Don't you think? Again, I just think anyone who's not fucking with me at this point, right? It's like, they're not going to fuck with me. They weren't planning on fun with me. You know, like I'm just not there cup of tea. I think that I have loyal sources and enough where I can post something, you know,

57:23it may not be a multiple stories a week. You know, it may only be one or two stories a month, but I can have an impact still. Right. You know, I'm not a player who needs to hang it up. So no, I agree. Round and if I'm not going anywhere, to me, it just like, I'm surprised people don't flip it around, honestly. Like this is almost like kidnapping and terrible analogy, kidnapping a child and then asking for five dollars in ransom, right? It's like, CAA, all you have to do of the dozens of stories, I'm not even like saying, this is all you have to do is like, I'm not blackmailing them. This isn't extortion. But if I was CAA, I'd be like, cheese, all I have to do is really give this guy one story a week of the dozens of stories a day that I post with the trades. And keep him happy and keep him on my side and keep him talking to me, right? So that when he gets something, I can hold him if I need or I can tell him, hey, this isn't an important one. We need this on deadline. Like I've had all these sensitive conversations with every trade, okay, as far as holding stories,

58:27making calls to pressure studios so that'll trigger them into allowing the other trades to post. Like you guys don't know the fucking 3D chess that I play and the idea that you think that you know how to play the game is I know, but see, this is what I mean. When you go to that place, you're just like, it's ego, it's hubris, it's narcissism, but it's the truth, John. But your reality, people don't want to live in reality. Well, that's fair. And I do think there are some people who don't live in or think they're more important than they actually are. And when they're not, I definitely agree with what I am. That may be my disease, but you know what? Yeah. Let me have my disease. People let me have my disease. Please like seriously, if you don't like me, mute me, block me. I don't need this every week. Every time I open my mouth, people who know me know that's Jeff showing off that's Jeff being an asshole because he was right and taking a fucking victory lap and going overboard.

59:27It's not just not. There's going to threaten Indian. We got to get it. Where do you live? We got a doxxas guy. Fuck his god. Fauille is a rapist. Someone called me a rapist. What are we talking about people? Whoa. Yeah. Let's probably somebody's clearly unhinged themselves. Let's Yeah. Yeah. And I think that I will say this because I have I've grilled you on this, but I will say on the other side, the irony that the same people who have said to you that you're a creep for doing what you're doing and you're a horrible person are sending you some of the most toxic, horrific, mentally unhealthy tweets. Way worse than anything I've posted. I don't know about way worse. I'm not judging. Qua, I'm just saying it's correlative. So to me, look at you. If you're going to attack Jeff in this way and you're going to be just as bad as Jeff, where do you get off judging Jeff? If you're going to say the same thing, this is the mistake people make. If you're someone says something negative, you go, well, fuck it.

1:00:28Now I can get super negative and somehow you think you're superior because you're getting negative and you've been allowed to be negative. That can be a dangerous thing. And look, I'm guilty of it sometimes too. So I'm not trying to say I'm holier than that. But I'm saying some of you who are watching, I've seen I saw some of your tweets today and they were some of the most horrific, toxic, mentally unhealthy shit that you're accusing and childish shit that you're accusing Jeff of being in your own way. I've even seen, I thought some illusions to you being Jewish like people took that into account. I know Jesus Christ. So much hate and deceptism. So much hate and deceptism. How are you better than Jeff when you're going down the anti-Semitic route with in your insults towards Jeff? So I think just to be fair, because I've grilled you for 20 to 25 minutes on this, I think just to be fair, you have to look at the other side of this, the reaction to this has been something really unsettling to look at as well. And so it's totally gross. It's because people hate me. I am definitely the only major Jewish reporter. I mean, I'm sure Sharon gets her share of stuff.

1:01:31God knows I don't get what Roxy gets. Oh, yeah. That's what Roxy gets horrific stuff. But yeah, like just getting terrible things, death threats. Like I'm worried about like getting docs. You just nutty shit because people didn't like a tweet. Like do you think that you're defending her? Do you think that like she's not a big girl or that her reps don't know how this work? This has nothing to do with Andy and Andy never ready. Like she's nothing to me. I wish her well. She's a really good actor. It's exciting to see where her girl goes. You know, you sign up though with these people because they're CAA and you don't really know who they are. You just know this is what I'm supposed to do. And you don't, the a lot of these actors don't know the way that these reps behave or misbehave or don't behave or misbehave on their behalf. And I just find this behavior disgusting. And I encourage actors to form and filmmakers to form their own relationships with people. Those are the best relationships that I have when I can just get a director on the phone or DM an actor and be like, yo, is this true?

1:02:32They're like, yeah, it is. But like, yo, can you give me a week or two on this? I'll be sure you keep you put like, right. It just comes, it makes, it just means so much more coming from the talent than it comes than it means coming from their fucking reps who are just like, what do you think like the fucking stereotype of an agent is on entourage? Like, yeah, these people are good people. Okay. C.A. is the literally the biggest bully in this fucking zip code in this fucking city, right? They would lead women in two meetings with Harvey Weinstein. Okay. That's not, that's, that's, that's, that's the only way. If we're gonna start growing out things like this about me, which are so hateful and fucking horrible at lies, like hating women, like, that's the same thing UTA did with Matt Donnelly two weeks ago. Matt Donnelly harasses women. No, you've put a woman in a position where Matt Donnelly needs to have a stern conversation with a woman and say, if you lie about this conversation, there will be consequences. That's not threatening a woman.

1:03:33It's threatening and executive. And that is what I did today. And it wasn't one woman. It was two women, C.A. and the publicist. Nothing to do with Indie Navarretti, okay? That's what I'm trying to clarify as we wrap this up. Your tweet was about Indie's team, not Indie Navarretti specifically. Undersecretly. And you do apologize for the way it was freight. You should have written it better, is that what you're saying? It could have been worded differently. I think particularly they reply using like, making sure like, dude, that's, I'm not complaining. This is a fucking threat. Right. You know, like, okay, that's pouring gasoline on the fire. Probably should have done that. But like, again, the response always outweighs the effect. Right. But I'm trying to get to where we wrap it. And so you, but you weren't saying that you're going to report personal things about Indie Navarretti. Have I ever? You were saying, well, that's what I'm saying. But people don't know they will write your tweet and they try to write some people don't know. They just see a bad guy online and they just on the pile. Yeah, but I'm trying to clarify it so that we all are on the same page here.

1:04:36So you didn't, you weren't saying you were going to like publish things personally about Indie. It was about her projects. Like if you hear that she's up for something, you might report it or put it out there. Instead of checking with her team, is that correct? Is that what you were intentionally? Yes, that is correct, John. In 20 years of living in Los Angeles and being in proximity to celebrities, right? And someone who is still very much in proximity to celebrities. Yeah, yeah, right? Yeah, yeah. I have never reported, I don't report on who people are fucking. Yeah. What drugs they're doing. I'm not a tabloid guy and not a paparazzi. And I've had plenty of opportunities. Okay. Yeah. That's not what I do. I care about the work. And that and when I'm threatening Indie Navarretti. But you're not. Again, if you want to interpret as a threat, feel free. No, no, because we want to get on the same page. Consequence. What are we talking about? Giant's the same fucking thing.

1:05:37If you don't engage, this is the consequence. If you want, what if I said it's not a threat? Just A plus B equals C. That's the consequence. Would you say, well, that's not a consequence of that? No, but I think the difference is really important to distinguish here. You're not saying that you're going to go after Indie Navarretti personally. You're saying that her team ignoring you like this frustrated you. And so you will now not not worry about them and not think about them. Right. I'll just post anything. I already never. That's what I do. That's the job. And that's what you pay me to do. Like that's what you guys want. You want to know the script. She's reading you want to know the director. She means you want to know the meeting she's taking. Or I could wait two months and wait for the deals to close and read about them on deadline. Well, that's what I'm trying to clarify. Some people are taking when you sit in Indie Navarretti. They're saying her personally. You're not going after her personally. It's the team that you're talking about. And I just want to clarify that for people who are watching. So yeah. I mean, whether it's team whether it's again, it's it's it's she is now. Listen, she is a person, right?

1:06:39Yes, the firm. She is a person. Guys, it's going to say something. Guys, stop telling me what to do on my fucking show. Shout the fuck up. Okay, stop telling me what to do on the show. We're going to do the show. How we fuck I want to do the show. If you want to stick around, stick around. You don't want to stick around. Get the fuck out of here. It's like that. I'm lying. Like hook me up to the machine. Like what am I lying about? Why would I have to lie? I'm like being literally, and this is what so frustrating. Like I'm being as honest, I think as anyone in the history of Hollywood has almost ever been with people. Like I don't know what you guys are talking about. But you're but you're I think you're also playing the victim when you have gone after people. I am the victim. Do you understand here? I think you're the victim and the aggressor, depending on the situation. Do you understand that I'm being tanya harding? I don't think I'm being tanya. I literally I had to cut tanya harding out of the column because I sent it to one person. They're like you shouldn't. Yeah, because you're not tanya hard. This is the truth though. What I loved I tanya was so heartbreaking to me.

1:07:42It's a good. You see, I know she deserved it. What's tanya harding was great at something? And all of a sudden she was told, you know, whether you believe her story, not whatever she probably deserved. She's probably behind it, right? She was told you can't do that thing anymore. Right? And that's what I've been told. Jeff, you're great at something. And we don't have a we can't let you do it because we only let three companies do it. Variety, deadline, and how to put them. Sometimes the ramp, right? We only let four companies break our news. So unfortunately, we don't have a place for you and your God given talent. Goodbye. Well, if I were to accept that, like this is my life. This is my self. I know. I'd be pretty fucked up if I were to just be like, you know what? You guys don't want me here. I'm going to go. I'm good at this. I'm good at something. And I'm going to keep fucking doing it. But I don't care how many people have a problem with it. Enough people like it where I can still live in this beautiful apartment. Yes. Right.

1:08:42But I also think you shouldn't need to say it. That's what I'm getting at. Like you can, like you know, you know, this growing up, if a guy brags about his dick, it's not that big. If a guy brags about his sexual prowess, he's really not that. These are these are outdated things. I brought him my dick all the time and I got to tell you. It's fucking huge. Okay. No, I don't know what it is, but like, but you know what I'm getting at. So I think you should just let the work speak for itself. Why do you have to remind me? I should. And shut their face. I'm going to go great. You are because you are great. Here's the thing. Here's the thing. Okay. Now I don't mean. Let the work for itself, right? Yes. Yes. Forrest lets the work speak for itself. Yes. So just in just in let's the work speak for yourself. These are these are two of the best guys I know. These are fucking. They're not standing guys, right? Yeah. I'm not in that position. I'm not fortunate enough to be in that position, right? I need to put on a show in the like that's what people are tuning for. It's the scoops and the fucking show, right?

1:09:42Scoops in a show. It's dinner and drinks. They go together. Okay. So why do I have twice as many followers? Yeah. This is a stupid. This is a really stupid conversation we're about to have. But why do I have twice as many followers on Twitter as just in our borce even though they dropped quite two or three times as much news as I did? Why is that? Yeah. Right? Is that me or is that you? Is that the public? Right. Right. Right. But why not just sit in that place of like I know I'm good. I know I'm I got twice as many followers. Because it's not a fun I told you it's about it's about all right when they're placed and letting trolls think that they can get away with talking to people however they want. It's really like again you think I should have said anything today while people are saying crazy anti-Semitic things telling me to kill myself telling me oh this guy was always a disgusting vial pig piece of shit like dude you don't know me I've never met you we've never had a conversation you know I know better you have a pair of social relationship with not

1:10:43just me but with Indy never ready right you're all fucking I like you're the weirdos I'm not the weirdo you're the weirdo and if you are in my position and you had to feed yourself and it relied on you breaking news and an agency wouldn't give you the time of day or a fair shake to break that news you would say fuck that agency in the ass and you do whatever the fuck it takes to feed yourself and that's what I'm doing and if you want to help me I appreciate it I'm grateful and if you don't want to help me God bless you have a great labor day weekend okay all right I don't know where else we can get to on that Jeff I wanted to clarify what this was I wanted to ask you about the tweets I wanted to go through the things that you said and call them out and have their own I don't think there's more we're already an hour and 15 minutes or I don't tell we should probably maybe get to the questions or do you want to talk about anything else because we should move off this topic I think it's all in the newsletter like if you guys want to see more I laid it out in the newsletter in full detail tonight I thought it was a good piece it was I had somebody take a look at it before

1:11:50I want to find out by next week I want to check back in with you about this you know assuming I still have a channel I don't know some people have been threatened to take my channel now like I assume we have a channel like next week I want to find out I don't like this thing so it shouldn't exist how many people caught me for me to be black listen I don't like this guy so he shouldn't exist take away the things that offend me in life this is the snowflake culture right that Hollywood has bread it's fucking loony tune shit John yeah what I was trying I was trying to navigate this with you because I want I want to make sure to navigate it okay good all right good I think we should move on yes yes but I think we should move on because but I'm happy to take questions from people about it but like the questions like you got to pay $20 for this I'm not answering a bow and I'm not in question okay like a serious response I'm happy to engage if there's like an element of it that upsets you yeah again the most the worst the sides all the hate that I got the thing that like I hate women are like absurd like I just do this for everybody

1:12:54there's I have 12 examples in two minutes yeah people people run off have cocked with all of the people are so dumb yeah the people were calling me a misogynist a couple days ago because everywhere isn't it without good jokes yeah you're racist you're a misogynist your iftist is this is these are all the words I know I know I know all right I was true so I just want to make a clear wanted to ask you about it wanted to bring you on because I don't have been all these people who have had ideas of what you met what you said what their ideas let them think whatever they want like what do you to speak for yourself because I wanted to have an honest conversation and if people have an issue with how I ran this sorry but this is how I intended to do it it was to be honest have Jeff speak his mind call him out on some of his stuff and they want to present the other side of it and I think we did that that's what I'm getting at is I think we have honest conversation what do they want though like again we can stop right for questions like you guys can control whatever you wanted Roca to do yeah well no they can't control me that's for sure let's let's get to the question why they said support thank you Wiley uh Jordan Whitehold says nothing it's

1:13:58a done deal but should we all just prepare ourselves for an odyssey award sweep many great films a challenger has it really emerged I mean George making a good point Jeff the odyssey just passed Spider-Man which domestically with his box office now it's bounced back but I still think Dune 3 needs to be heard from at the end of the year what are your thoughts on do you think it's a done deal no I don't think it's a done deal at all I think we're in the middle of like Ben is Centella right like all right yeah yeah like the fall festivals are just starting there's a lot of dust to be stood to still be settled like no this is not over yeah prime time is is showing tonight from what I understand so I want to hear from people who saw I I am Savi Mike says Jeff is the goat the film twitter bots can go cry can't be upset for someone doing their job and being the best at it wow there you go Jeff a little support for me from a you know I know it's out there so I do appreciate every message that I've received he was just don't get it they just don't get me it's like it's like watching a TV show that you've never seen before that's been on for 20 seasons

1:15:00and then being like what the fuck is this show this show is fucking crazy like dude I'm the same guy I was yesterday and two weeks ago what he has very consistent you can't take a victory lap on this when you said some you said some pretty pretty tough shit a rough shit or horrible shit over the last 24 hours Jeff I mean I think there's a little bit itself reflection on somebody else what you put I'm not you want me to put up I'll bring up all you I mean like there are there are some of the things that you shot at certain people in game at certain people I don't think it's 100% like you just were riding the wave I think there was a sense of you like pushing back on these people in a harsh way that you didn't need to so I just want to clarify what I'm saying is it's just like a salt brother I didn't swing first you swing first I'm entitled to fucking shoot you you weren't not the shoot but you are in time I'm legally allowed to defend myself and if I think I'm in danger I'll do whatever the fuck I want fair point you don't swing first keep your fucking opinions to yourself

1:16:02start a fucking text threat go on go on threads Jesus Christ cartoon fourness is thoughts on that Hollywood reporter article from Joseph Khan saying Paramount should leave LA what a fool yeah I thought it was a foolish article go ahead you and I definitely differ on this go ahead again we need people like Joseph Khan you don't understand that like that these are interesting reads as evidenced by the fact this is the second column is that we're talking about on the show right the Hollywood reporter needs more columns like this the tradesmen need more columns like this and we need more people who think like this we don't need more filmmakers like Joseph Khan necessarily I was a big fan of body I didn't like it or detention but I have always been a fan of Joseph because he speaks his mind right because he's independent thinker and because of articles like this again if you the this city is taking this industry for granted yeah 100% okay and so if you're being taken for granted you know like I'll fucking pack up and move what do I what have fucked do I need you for why am I paying 500 million a year in state taxes when I can do this same fucking thing in

1:17:04Texas but the genesis of this is of course I'm not getting what I want so I'm taking my ball in going home because it's like in the court that's the billionaire then and buy the comfort like I don't know if you have the money you get to do what you want not always there are rules and regulations that's not the world we want to live in where if you have enough money you get to do what you want that's how we ended up in this fucking situation in the first place fair fair thank you not whatever not whatever we want there should be some regulation I think that's a good thing that that politicians are looking at this deal but the deal is going to happen I don't know I'm sorry I said team out well thank you Mike as well Jordan wine holds his directors on directors Ridley Scott and Tarantino did was that announced no no no no I would love that Brandon chef films as there needs to be a buddy cop comedy film starring you too it would be one of the funniest films ever yeah me trying to stop Jeff doing crazy shit and then

1:18:08and then me doing crazy shit after I stopped Jeff yet exactly I mean listen I think I'm just as interesting a pat McAfee who's being paid a hundred million dollars a year listen we we we deserve to have a show on the ringer or on the first one of these fucking places oh dude what about Sean fantasy and Amanda Dobbins acting as if they had no idea chat GPT was I mean this was nonsense like utter nonsense to for them to be like I've registered my complaints with Bill but you know Bill's gonna do what he wants to do you know what you could do stop doing the show and tell him that you're upset about him doing it with chat GPT and we're not gonna do the show anymore without chat GPT but you know why you're not doing that because you're getting paid son so to me this was a fake moral stand that they were taken they met nothing because if you don't follow it with actions you're just a lipstick liberal and what's the point of that go ahead this is what story the the Amanda the uh Sean fantasy man yeah I mean come on guys like

1:19:13these people are phony yes I'm sorry like like for whether you love me or hate me I'm I'm fucking real man I'm fucking authentic I'm the real deal like I'll verify that these people are fake yeah that's all I can say yeah I don't disagree don't know that the chat GPT is is fucking sponsoring the shit like yeah not so I mean again but it's the outrage machine like who gives a shit if you don't like it don't listen don't listen the fucking podcast if you don't like the segment I agree that but that's why I think them trying to play both sides by being like well we're still gonna keep doing the show but I spoke to Bill I sent him a very strongly sternly worded letter right it's like come on you're still doing the show so in essence it wasn't enough for you to really take a stand you just want to impress your listeners and your viewers that who might have issued that that you took a stand but you didn't really take a stand again we think of these people as super powerful and there's celebrities to some extent at least you know when I had true

1:20:16like I see their face for some reason um they're employees right and so they're seeing a you know and they like the money this is a come what the company side is above my pay grade like you know it's out of my control right and and I'm sure we had to do that at collider more than uh once you know like I can't I can't recall a moment that if anything was as bad as the chat GPT thing I might have made a stand for sure but I didn't really see anything that was as bad as that Jordan says love to Jeff all right Jordan thank you uh Brody Bruce's this show is always entertaining and informative you guys a great Jeff is my spirit animal like the man said be nice until it's time to not be nice damn the man save the empire oh fuck yeah I just love to know what more people like in my position would genuinely do just take I guess they just take the W right just like hey man just say what you got to say and yeah there's no there's no need to to rub it in or I mean you stuff like that like right you brought Roxy up and Roxy gets a lot of shit but you don't

1:21:17shit or flip out on Twitter and that's not her style that's not my style because she gets more not doing that and that's what I'm yeah but I well that's the thing what like there are patches right where I've been nice like I remember specifically like two or three years there where I was like I'm gonna cool it maybe a little bit and then like I started having meetings with deadline right yeah and they fucking went nowhere and it's not like anybody else fucking reached out when it's like I'm a better reporter than the person you're paying $200,000 a year like just straight up facts so like what are we doing here what are we playing the I like this guy guy like my co-workers like me right my co you and I were co-workers a collider yes yeah you may hear from Matt Goldberg or you know people like that who I barely talk to a collider right but people a collider like me I still talk to my original variety fucking co-workers like I'm a good guy I'm a fucking fun cool guy to work with right camp you said as much today don't don't fucking cross me like don't ignore me

1:22:19what do you think I should have done in this in the circumstance right if you have a bully who's you know basically fucking with you right right what do you expect to do but again I say to you you are above all of these people but in terms of your credibility your accomplishments what you're doing by responding to that you give them more credit than they deserve in your world and I think you elevate them and lower yourself that's the danger because you don't need to but I hear you don't you feel you feel you're being bullied you feel you're being pushed so you need to respond but I'm just saying I don't know it's that it's necessarily leading you to a good point so I'm trying to say you know from a place of care because you're my friend sure cartoon four is did you see the furious and sheep detectives yet I've seen the furious but not sheep detectives Jeff I like them both okay all right cool Michael Brandes says could a good showing by Street Fighter get a punch out movie Greenlit yeah Jeff that trailer was good I love that trailer what do you think um listen I think it looks super fun it got the tone of what a street fighter movie

1:23:21supposed to be mm-hmm I think the cast is actually a lot of fun um and I do actually think that it could open the door for a punch out movie who that could be something who would you cast oh my god what do you mean that's that I got to spend like 20 minutes on that to find out who I would cast for punch out you know it's like class class Joe would be like a good class Joe you know who would want to be class Joe you'd have to find some like Dylan Baker would be a great like a younger Dylan Baker that's your glass Joe that's what you're looking at right there it's a character actor who's slender but with like big eyes I don't know who's who's a class Joe right who would want to be that because you knocked out the first round Jack the last Joe was always the easy knockout so Lord Zukas as will we see a Lindsay Clancy movie get made soon and also of Lindsay Clancy were a black woman do you think she would have gotten the same kind of support to your second part fuck no to your first part I'm sure there'll be a Lindsay Clancy move I'm surprised there's not a Karen Reed movie already that we've seen that we used to have Amy Fisher movies within months you know when that shit happened so I'm surprised that there's no Lindsay Clancy movie yet in motion

1:24:25yeah not guilty but mistrial by the way mistrial too wow again I think that there were a lot of white women right from wealthy enclaves and Massachusetts who needed somebody to rally around after Karen Reed and she became the cause so let she really did she really has become that and they're blaming him which I wonder if what's going to happen with that like you're saying camp you had to take down a video did he get bullied into taking down a video defending me I don't know amazing like this is so hilarious like why doesn't anybody give a shit all I want is like to be able to publish my little newsletter to like the people who subscribe to it it's not a very large number like that's how I want I just want to be left alone with these people Doug developer says I think Nicole in days of the under two would add at least 50 million to the box office people would love to see the hottest couples from the distant past reunite just once no way I don't I don't know that we had 50 but I mean Nicole can't add 50 million to anything

1:25:27right now I don't think that's crazy yeah like no that's not gonna be $50 million maybe five people like you're like that there's that many like tabloid like supermarket check at aisle moms who are like I got to see Tom and Nicole in this movie that I have no interest in seeing yeah Lord Zooka says I was stand by Jeff on the hot mic no matter what thank you Lord Zooka I appreciate you uh Drew Skizzy says if Jeff has one million fans I'm one if Jeff has one fan it's me if Jeff has no fans I'm no longer on earth if the world hates Jeff I hate the world wow thank you you're some strong support very nice of true unfortunately Pennywise thinks this show blows ass what can you do why you again why are you with these people cares Pennywise is four followers on on YouTube gives a shit Doug developer says Demi roasting Bruce 18 years after the divorces among the highest viewed comedy central roast on YouTube nostalgic allore sure that's YouTube where it takes no effort to roll around in your couch and hit play on that you know it's definitely going

1:26:27to the theater right it's also Demi making fun of Bruce if we're gonna get Tom Tom Nicole Kim in five minutes of roasting Tom Cruise like yes that actually will get you 50 million dollars at the box office that's true that's true put it in the trailer uh jf t5 5 2 says have you ever attended TIFF best movie festival Jeff you've got a tip haven't you yeah it's great yeah I've never been I don't know what Bruce Campbell didn't I did it someone or something like something's happening like sad news of Bruce Campbell oh okay just just illness stuff bro oh okay can't can't be can't be uh no well he said he has five years to live during a podcast appearance that's all he said he's not dead Jesus Abraham uh I don't know Abraham Chicoia what's the word on digger positive negative it seems that the announcement of days of thunder two is over shattered alongside like a marketing are they confident on this film Jeff I mean I think it'll be good I don't

1:27:35know that it'll be great I think it'll be divisive so I can certainly see a lot of people not liking it yeah I don't know how confident they are I still think Dune is kind of the big push I mean you know they'll push time obviously right um but I do think that the days of thunder two thing it's like did we did this need to be announced right now this kind of waited like a month I think that's why they announced it yeah I think yeah I think you're like a boost exactly it was like yeah I I wonder if they are trying to pivot away yeah 34 burgos has fuck all of that spill a e spill it the damn spill the tea spill the tea that's on Tuesday right and that's then that's ultimately all people really want right they don't yeah you know like it's I'm not being offered interviews I'm not like the the industry already has a grudge out for me for some reason even though like I said the loser I'm trying to tell positive stories I'm just trying to help casting stories guys not it's not a crazy ransom to be asking for just remind a stream lab

1:28:42superchets are still open sending you questions thoughts and comments as we go along especially on the stream lab side of things because YouTube takes 50% of your superchets so if you really want to donate some good money to us for the show we're doing and for the conversations we have on this show the stream labs are the way to go uh Fred Tessies I never believed Jeff was quote making a threat I thought it was more of a you want me in your camp like how I ring the bell for Glenn Powell exactly so why are we making an enemy of me like I'm not here to be an enemy right I do this to play into the perception right but I want to be everybody's friend I like but yeah you got to respond to emails or answer calls right if you if you want to shut me out we can shut each other out and see who gets angrier I think like there's anger on the other side you just don't see it yeah yeah yeah I'm just I'm giving these people a peek behind the curtain of something that they would never otherwise see yeah and they can't handle it it freaks them out but like you don't

1:29:44think Matt Bellany like throws a tantrum when he gets fucked down a story or something or Mike Fleming like he does they do I'm sure yeah like you guys are crazy you just don't see it I'm the only one who has the balls to show it to you well because I'll do it also because when you show it they then can address it and so like that so you're setting you're setting the table for them to address it you know that's that's what I'm trying to get it ultimately but look brother you increase subscribers all the time you get people in your newsletters all the time so don't listen to me man do you know what I did the product that's all that you do it's a matter he trusts you yes I don't just we're in this world where we judge the artist right do I want to see this piece of art that interests me right right I don't know who made it am I okay with this person I'm not one of those people right if Woody Allen makes a movie that that looks good to me I'm not gonna be like well Woody Allen made it so I'm not gonna see it I'm gonna go see it but if Woody was responding to every one of his critics with with uh you know oh responding to critics hopefully is the appropriate rich or shit right it's like God there have been anybody responds to critics

1:30:50I'm just saying oh no you gotta let the critics roll over you because you just gotta let the critics do their thing and let the mob have its way with you that's what they teach you right yes to let they let it go and go pass I don't always learn the lesson but they yes that's supposed to learn my lesson I'm a idiot with the other side of this is I do I wonder how many of these people who are hanging themselves up on the cross of Indy Navaretti we're also the same people a few weeks ago who were calling her a sellout for doing X-Men instead of he too I wonder what the Venn diagram is of these people who are being sanctimonious about Indy but we're criticizing her a couple of weeks ago so I was thinking about that no one knows yeah no one knows because no one remembers right yeah it's for some reason everyone has an incredible like incredible memory with everything that I've said I mean that's probably because they all have folders full of screenshots to help but yeah it's it's amazing how much stuff gets remembered yeah for instance oh yeah we said

1:31:50already 30 more burger jeopardy take a shirt off FTS go scorch there you go 34 burgers is $10 for Jeff going SMD attitude tonight yeah quick question since James Gunn is in his original ideas or since James Gunn is his original ideas cut mostly what movies are shows do you all think has real potential to get green then what's it since James Gunn has his original ideas cut mostly what movies are shows do you all think has real potential to get green lit I don't think there should be looking past anything but Batman and Wonder Woman Jeff like there's nothing else to be green lit just Batman and Wonder Woman that's it then you can start to figure out what's next and we're gonna get season two of lanterns it feels like lanterns it's like a that really worked and I really like to show so far so that'll be coming and then you know the Jimmy Olson show which I think is designed to be an anthology and to go multiple seasons and stuff like that uh so yeah I mean I think these are the things that you wait for while we work on the holy trinity yeah the Richard's art says people want

1:32:56to know does he feel like it was a threat especially after saying this is a threat I've made mistakes too not a good look to start off with a new actress not a good look okay well thank you when the Richard's art um yeah no it's not a good look it's not a good look and I and I would if again if I was an actor signing with an agency I'd want to be like hey do you know how to handle the sky jump Snyder because it seems like he's gonna be doing this for the next 20 years and I want to do it for the next 20 years and so maybe we should have a good relationship with this guy like other rising stars in this industry have and continue to benefit from that's all I want to ask you you you you have a lot of connections in the business people think people think you're just out here saying shit but you you have lunches you have meetings with actors agents executives have any of them reached out to your last 24 hours and they're like what are you doing stop doing this you're insane I can't be seen with you anymore again the idea that any of these people give a shit it's a labor day weekend first of all they've been gone for a week that's true they're gone yeah they're

1:33:56not coming back until two if you guys can drag this out until Tuesday maybe they'll see it when they come back this might be this might make the CIA meeting for sure oh but uh no uh the answer is not I've not had one person be like and first of all they do in Hollywood right they don't that's the thing they don't tell you and that's the that's my thing it drives me crazy that they don't tell you when they've you know turn their back on you you just all of a sudden feel it slowly yeah so that's why I like to to be clear in the communication where it's like if you turn your back on me I will turn my back on you and you will not be happy this will make your job more difficult right okay if you're going to make my job more difficult by not responding that and that's all like that's all it is if you're going to make my job more difficult I'm going to make your job more difficult and we'll see who makes things more difficult for who Nathaniel Monos says Jeff has always done an excellent job as a reporter this whole drama

1:34:59quote-unquote it's so ridiculous keep doing what you're doing there you go Jeff a little support from the man thank you Nathaniel I appreciate that I was so glad to be here that you're not being hard Jeff you post bullshit scoops online you are nothing but he's like he's only talking about a scoop that I was proven correct on that was another hilarious part of all this day how many people are like this guy's full of shit he's a fucking grifter like are we talking about a story I got right in July and like isn't that when you guys want to know it when it's happening well yeah and this is not the element John brought this up on his breakdown and he was saying like that you know he used it as an avenue to talk about what we feel entitled to and people think that the tweet and the response implies that you feel you're entitled to them responding to you do you feel can you clarify that do you feel entitled by that do you do you feel it is their prerogative entirely their prerogative if they don't want to respond right I can't force them to respond if they don't

1:36:01want to respond that's their thing they don't want to engage right in a way that's better for me right like I said because it just allows me to not they have no idea when it's coming it gives you the runway right right it's just I can do whatever I want so it's like I appreciate that license in a way but the whole point of this complaining if you will if you want to go back to that original commenter is like you're complaining again the complaint is that I'm not taken seriously by certain agencies I'm not given the respect that I have earned in this town I do the same thing as the other trader quarters I tell largely positive stories right right people looking jobs I try to make them sound good I'm more honest than anyone I know it starts seeing movies and giving my opinion but to me it's different like I should be able to say the top-owner okay I didn't love runner right but you and I are still cool bro like you know like you've never done anything to me I've never done anything to you like I respect you as a producer you were hard I just didn't love the movie

1:37:03that and that should be allowed yeah okay I just don't yeah the lecture do you get it do you feel entitled yes or no I feel and I feel entitled to a response in the sense that you owe me a no comment it like if you don't I do feel that if you respect me you're like you don't even have to deal with me but if you respect me right you will just say no comment and I'll say okay thank you goodbye right and I'll do what I got to do but if you don't even respect me to respond enough then I have no recourse but to say go fuck yourself game on okay yes everyone like well I don't know what you guys want from me you want an apology you're not getting a fucking apology well you already apologized earlier for I apologize for certain tweets yes then I said and could have phrased but as far as this overall situation right I'm not sorry I do feel entitled either I've earned a no comment response yes they don't have to give it to me but if that's the case I mean but it's

1:38:06never coming okay be like you are like we're done here we'll lose my number I'll lose my email and wait for me to get replaced and wait for the next guy to try to repair this relationship because that's really what it is that's the thing all these people are in temporary seats John right yeah well I don't some of them in the seats vary a very very long time right right 15 20 years and some of these agencies but eventually people leave yes and then there's a new guy and you get a clean slate and maybe they know hey we don't really like this guy whatever but you know it's just like I'm around I'm not going anywhere I'm 42 years old I'm gonna have to do this for the next 25 years so if you're not prepared to deal with me that's the job I hate to say it that's why you get paid the big bucks Indy NaviReady pays a publicist thousands of dollars a month she pays a commission to CAA for these two people in her life to deal with situations like this and people like me and if you don't want to deal with them Indy NaviReady the only advice I can give you honey go find a new agency and a new and a new public says oh you don't like the word honey

1:39:10I just yes because it diminishes its sexes it's massage yes yes you don't need to do it that's my point it's for emphasis John it's why I'm a good writer do you understand you know I do I do this drama you know this is why I went one place and a lot of other people went other places I just I don't know I just say okay it's a burden being smart it's a real burden oh my god all right see all right anyway uh Richard aren't it bleeds and leeds uh for sure what a creep I love the what a holy book card to 49 says thoughts on that fake 49's player scam I don't know much about it except me to be a player it's hilarious okay I've seen some incredible memes uh who did one bit I mean Vishnu our friend uh do you ever meet Vishnu who played that last movie I don't think so he did a good comedy sketch but it's just like this guy who's like what's up guys like I got a football under my arm like yeah I played for the 49ers I got a big contract honey I need a little

1:40:11money though like can you spot me and he just literally scam like women at a millions of dollars I think 1.3 million 26 women at a 1.3 million right I can't believe that they fell for this this guy doesn't he doesn't look or move like a professional receiver at all it was a hilarious story and there's definitely gonna be like a documentary or something oh yeah it's got to be an untold on this there's got to be an untold on this oh by the way I watched the the break dancing one listen that was an hour and 15 minute PR scam that they pulled on us in my opinion I have no sympathy for her or his her Doug Henning Tamu Doug Henning boyfriend I have zero sympathy for one of those two and I'll tell you why because they videoed everything you don't video everything unless you want to be the star of the show and so this whole like oh like we just kind of found our way here and you know and you want and you're like I yeah I'm glad Richard Branson saved her ask because she was getting destroyed but I think that untold was very much from her point of view you know kind of like

1:41:14sand steam or the yeah it's it's white washes the reputation a little bit yes but again it's like people get all bent out of shape like why are you making documentaries about this woman she's a bad dancer she's a bad dancer right like who cares years to train and she's still terrible it's a thing because of the outrage it's because it's because of the reaction and and so she's just another example of someone who's like you know we don't like this person we need to cancel them we need to mock them right I mean dude it's wild yeah oh he keeps coming back some people just keep coming back here it's really wild people like they can't help themselves Edgar McGonnell Hill Hills have eyes remake 2006 was a great it's like guys like Jim Jarmusch hair wood Andrew Woods on Twitter or Rodrigo Perez the fucking loser who runs the playlist like these guys have been blocked for years so when I see them like putting out screenshots it's like oh you guys are just like obsessed with

1:42:16me like you literally can't stay away you either have burners that are spying on me or you're like clicking on the view posts like because you're not really blocked anymore on Twitter like it's just people are sad right they like find something better to do well they have a lot of people live sad lives and social media is a place to expose that for sure right I'm just trying to tell people the way it is in this industry like you know these people see as fucked over in this town I want like it's got to be a line of mile longs brought behind me being like it's about time somebody like and fucking stood up to see a John Lawless says all I want to know Jeff is when we have a sequel of your brother tackling you randomly like always I love this show now there are a few weeks I'll go home I'll try to set something up again with the ego you guys are so surprised to town to keep it up have the egos like all these people all these famous people you know they all have a giant ego they just hide it all right right are stupid 100% uh Richard's art we can all agree Jeff himself as well he can be an ass not a bad guy though he

1:43:18travels waters most of us have no idea agents are savage by nature oh I agree with that I agree with that yeah Joseph uh uh Raseano says Jeff I got what you meant never switched up there you go yeah obviously thank you Joseph I said and I got your message thank you Luis Feliciano cute question but Jeff did Hayden Pettitari film anything now posthumously unfortunately that hasn't been revealed to the public yet you know anything of that uh no I okay Joseph Joseph Jeff stories have a high reading comprehension disappointed they drop Chad powers all at once yeah Jeff that was this kind of a surprise all of them at once was that a like it was they just trying to dump it or do you think they felt that was the better way to release season two of this show I mean who's drop shows like that before all at once Marvel yeah all who does right yeah yeah it's just six weeks um yeah you know maybe they just wanted to get it all out before football and everything and that way people can find it on their own time uh I literally I have

1:44:23to say I because I was surprised I saw variety in article from variety and it was like about the season two ending for Chad yeah I was like fuck variety like this shows not even out we're already talking about the fucking ending and then I looked and it was like actually it is out and all the episodes are out I binge it right away I thought it was terrific John really all right excellent have you seen it no did you watch season one no let me I got to tell you it's great it's the best thing it's the best thing Glenn has done and I totally understand why he basically put his movie career on hold to make this show the payoff was so worth it um I mean he wrote it right and that's the thing he should he should be writing for himself because he understands his strengths right hitman is his other really good project and he wrote that cool with that yeah yeah he's a actually a very good writer and even though season like season one was good I liked Chad power season one but I'm not going to sit here and say it was a great show it was a guilty pleasure this is actually a great

1:45:27season of television I love okay check it out uh and it a lady says don't like Ridley blaming me a scalpel but I always did think he was wrong for it of the actress considered I think Butler and Richard Madden were better I guarantee you neither one of those guys would have delivered a better movie than best-scaled it that was all about Ridley Scott not miss out in my especially Richard Madden let's say uh met says to McCall says Beth Snyder was blacklisted for lie about Morris Chester in his sleep what should I watch this weekend fall to by enemies or onslaught by enemies is getting destroyed over Walberg's nose as prosthetic nose and then onslaught you didn't like and the negative views have started to come out now even our brother Scott Menzel said he thought the number was way too high at 54% on rotten tomato so I haven't seen fall two though so Jeff what do you thoughts with the answer to rock see striers moving we got to fall to that's an I see is she in it is she can't give a role I didn't know that all right yeah she has I only

1:46:29she's in a very long I think she's in there for like 10 15 seconds maybe what does matter I'm still watching it now Tim Monto is sending support for Jeff there you go love dogs love dogs there's what if Cody Rhodes is Magneto it would be funny Cody Rhodes is not Magneto but by the way shout out to Cody Rhodes following me on Twitter just a couple days ago what an honor I love the American light bear very kind to the following Eddie Alenius is De Niro so disappointing and whisper man Keaton ran circles around him Owen Teg was great though Mazda Lambs was a great scene Jeff the third act of this movie isn't bad but first hour was pretty boring Michael Keaton definitely live and thing up De Niro was on fucking autopilot I mean this is a shadow of himself oh and Teg was really good I I mean I can't recommend this movie in good touch okay a lot of bad movies lately bro I I don't want to review any of them because they're so fucking bad it was August like these movies got to come out sometime like

1:47:32after Labor Day now the good mood is it don't even grad says I finished season one of dark matter on Apple I thought it might just be another multiverse story but I really liked where they took it new spin on it well season two is out right now as well so I think it's out now right isn't season two out right now I think it is so watch that as well Jeff do you see dark matter if you see this one oh no I actually have not the show I've heard actually heard good things about it yeah our love said he loved it yeah that season one yeah mess it up and go why was Jeff on the cover of baronstein bears what the fuck what no because Ron Riegos and anti-Semite no whoa whoa I don't know what that like like make it a little bit less coded next time right where you go you fucking sick whoa uh mr. GMT1 Jeff you're not a bad human keep up the awesome work boys there you go imagine imagine making a meme about a Jew and you choose the baronstein bears yeah baronstein yeah pretty bad look for Rodrigo Perez I gotta say pretty bad look Rodrigo you fucking anti-Semitic

1:48:39pieces shit some of my Latino brothers can be quite racist as I discovered after the lanterns episode Vaseline based with this with yet another sterling amount of money a whopping two dollars saying honey is not sexist calm down roca oh Vaseline you're such a sad human being I hope your parents find you in that case you're correct there we used to live in a society no no no it is sexist to say yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah sexist to say it okay it's not no no no it's not oh my god it's it's sexist say in a certain way it's certain to say it in in in a certain demeanor yeah it's not sexist no yes it is no Alan Spigs said this is what happens Jeff when you don't eat salad oh my god that's true remember when Larry David had that episode where he's calling everybody honey yes I thought that was funny maybe I should start doing that I mean I am the one wasn't that wasn't that off of Richard Lewis and the waitress use it wasn't it all the thing when they were trying to trick what's your right you're right it's Richard that's for good me either way I'm like

1:49:41a combination between Richard Lewis and Larry David you are you are it's hairline and not Richards but yeah I just find myself in these situations yeah yeah and it's like how did I get into this situation was I was fault it's my own fault it is secular monkey 65 27 if Christian brings back the Schmode out for a small turning with both you be coming back I already said yes Jeff I mean I said yes to but maybe after this he won't want me you know who knows this may have passed you my return gig in the Schmode out who knows we're a long way for it happening so Fiona says wow Jeff what a week with this sweaty emoji there siamma go so can you all confirm okay roca roca roca get rid of this bell money guy let's go on this guy is get rid of him okay all right hold on all right there we go uh zamie goes as king so can you all confirm who's playing which character in he too so Adam drivers playing the villain and Leo is playing both young and old Chris I have

1:50:43no idea with the Leo stuff but yeah driver supposedly playing Wardell wow Richard are I'm moving to Vegas and reforming my art film studio you guys spend any time there I like getting a short drive from LR my company get rid of James Stover too what's going on with you you're right I mean oh oh yeah defamation what a GA first defamation for who on my part to somebody else I'm just a honor is being defamed yeah I don't know uh sorry go ahead the Richard's all right thank you for sending it to you what do you think yeah I I we were in Vegas for cinema con and the lady outlaw and I really considered looking at places in Hendersonville that because I mean for what we pay for rent here we can get our even bigger place in Vegas so I don't know maybe they're they're made that may be in the future bro I think you should do it bro Vegas is on me on the come up uh feels like even though the tourism is going down the areas outside of Vegas are really dice man I have a good time in Vegas you just got to go for like the right amount of time you can't

1:51:47overdo it in the city itself yeah I agree fix 1210s and speaking of glampow right for himself Jeff has been an update on the dream works original idea of his I assume maybe he was writing it no I don't know no updates okay all right so let's see here I have two fly cams is what's up next for Mikey Madison social network two looks like a snooze and has DO and energy and DOA energy in my opinion what would you like to see for our next and Jeff do you think WB Paramount deals still happen well I think you already answered that earlier yeah I do I do still think it's okay what's next for Mikey Madison after that I mean we got to see once I think you got to let social I mean her team may try to line up something in advance because yeah yeah it looks great so it wouldn't shock me to see an announcement in the next month or so um I mean maybe there'll be some conversations up in Toronto uh okay see yeah beats me all right chillin the basement says uh I've been watching the Spodown ball it's super fun entertaining I'm shocked at what trivia I remember that said I have

1:52:50one word for you roca bespin yeah that's all you got I have two words for you four titles and the third word so you know hang on to bespin I'll hang on to my titles uh sL says hey y'all what do you think we'll be the next DCU film Baynan Deathstroke Wonder Woman or Brave in the Bulls I would think Wonder Woman Jeff what do you think which what do you think is next it's a good question after man of tomorrow obviously it's a good question yeah I have a feeling Baynan Deathstroke could go before Wonder Woman wow okay I could see that all right I just think that they've been developing that project for a while and they can't really do anything with Wonder Woman until after man of tomorrow opens so that leaves like all of next year for something kind of production yeah Samo says I feel bad for Jack Quaid having a nut job of uncle and a magga nut of a dad at least Meg Ryan is a good mom to him also it's been three years that my ex friend has ended my friendship

1:53:50and this channel therapy has been a great support for that thanks oh all right you're welcome Sam sorry you had to go through that but yeah Jeff a nut job of uncle and a magga nut of a dad I mean therapy yeah exactly uh listen thanks deppoy for that sticker appreciate it uh and I think there's one more is that all of them I think that's all the questions guys did good today for the most part I thought today was gonna be maybe a little bit outweer than it than it was but people get our show they may get who you are and I and I think you know they know that I'm gonna call you out the ones that actually come to our show every week they know that I'll at least confront you on some of this stuff and have conversations about it but I think we handled it well I think we got across what need to get across clarified it but yeah yeah were there any other questions that you had or tweets of mine that you like took serious issue with they're like this is cool I'd have to go and look at them uh and if you want to go through them we can but if you have time but I don't know I have time is that I want to go through my tweets

1:54:54okay here with you it's just I want everybody to be comfortable and feel like they got what they came for tonight got the closure that they need because I don't really want to address it too much after this because I think it's a really stupid silly controversy and it's more like an issue that has to be worked out with me and CAA than me and Indie never ready it will probably never talk to in my life um and yeah like I don't really get what you guys have to do with any of it but yeah yeah yeah I don't see yeah I mean there were I think the Rachel one was the big one for me but you addressed that because you guys have a history which I didn't know about so because I only know Rachel through a couple of friends I've never I don't know if I've made a met Rachel once or twice throughout my life but yeah I don't yeah I mean I just feel like overall here guys I take stock of what like Dan Marcus yeah to Dan Marcus who are who are you what are you like I thought up here I'm taking notes of everybody who says shit yeah yeah yeah yeah uh what did this mean just got arrested for blackmail I'm in the Santa Monica Joe police and bail my I think

1:55:58that this is something called sarcasm it doesn't translate very well online no it doesn't obviously I was not arrested for blackmail I didn't blackmail anybody blackmail doesn't involve casting groups believe it or not um the Santa Monica jail I don't even know if it exists is there a Santa Monica jail I don't know I'm sure there is no bail guys I do need bail money so see here what about this one you got an email you should get help for whatever addiction you have that makes you act like such a fucking but fooling god I cannot even imagine how ashamed your parents see this is what I mean right this this is what I'm telling my how dare you threaten somebody I'm gonna extend this unhinged email gotta cannot imagine how ashamed your parents are to have to call you their son do you do you have sisters Jesus if I were your sister I would change my last name the distance myself for you enjoy your lifetime of being alone you absolutely on inch weirdo you're not hot you're not important you don't have any talent special skills you over and fully an ego of mediocre whiteband never ceases to amaze me so this is a lot of vitriol

1:57:02spoiler alert it wasn't a white man who wrote that one well this is there's a lot of vitriol here and this is what I'm getting at like I call you out on the stuff you some of this tweets you put out here but like by the same token I gotta call out some of the responses from these people because it was just as equally toxic or unhinged or unstable as these people claim you and this is just one this is just a lot and out of how many you think I received like that today guys yeah no one else in our industry has to put up with that John Campiate does not put up with this stuff well he could just not social media you know he's smart not to be on social media and listen I would love that luxury I would love to be able to leave you all behind but Twitter is my home and I am a sheriff I am the boss of Twitter I'm sorry I was elected and I'm not going anywhere so either mutant block me or buy a ticket to the show but like if you buy the ticket you're getting the show yeah true that's true the heck and your stuff I don't know much about it so I don't know

1:58:06if I'm going to get into any of that with you it was just to illuminate to illustrate that this is not about her being a woman yeah what an absurd stupid thing I've sent emails to men you should have sent the see the email I fucking sent to Bobby myro and fucking gersh like you guys are like just everyone's just snowflake they're so innocent they're like I would never talk to an agency or a studio like this they've never heard anything like this like I'm in Hollywood do they're fucking wolves out here the fucking agencies they don't even fuck about me what are you talking about yeah it's it's funny seeing people with pressure my podcast go separate from me like this guy you know like yeah I saw a bunch of those broken right yeah I don't like no one's gonna tell me who to be friends with no one's gonna tell me who to do a show with now I know that's true but I do worry sometimes you know would Perry ever get fresh the Perry I think well Perry has much more to lose than I do and you know I respect Perry what she's accomplished and as a woman

1:59:07and a male dominated was a sciat like what she's accomplished and and you know both you and man's give me quite a lot sometimes and so you get into the situation yeah and I would never want my newsletter my tweets to like poorly on Perry like our show is a completely different thing because it's like alarming when you see people who are like Perry and man so you guys got to ditch this guy this guy is fucking bad news it's like yeah we do a fucking Oscar prediction show together like calm down there yeah and you said the anti-semitism yeah right exactly so I would you know like look at him play the anti-semitism card like yeah I mean there was yeah you're the one street it like you're the one streeting into a minute of shit what do you want from me yeah I saw some of the some of the comments there look and look I don't want to make it clear I'm not excusing Jeff's behavior in any way I me asking him about it and questioning why he did the things he did is a way of seeking clarification so that we all are on the same page I think you can do all kinds of videos that you want without Jeff's involvement but I think it's better to go to the source

2:00:11and ask them what their intentions were so that we all have an understanding and this is a rarity like I can't go to James Gunn because he won't let me and be like James what did you really mean and tell me the honest truth I know with Jeff I will get honesty from Jeff positive or negative I will get honesty from Jeff and so that was my intention here today in our conversation and and anyone trying to tell me to stop being friends with you or dissimism is it like listen I'm gonna do what I want to do I'm independent I'm I've built a nice little life here I like my channel I like what I do no one's gonna tell me who the fuck to be friends with who talk to but I'm also gonna call my friends out and I have no problem doing that and for those who follow me know that go it yeah I was just like fuck you like bro I'm not asking for a handout I've never asked any of these places for handout I've got the goods I if I'm if I'm asking I'm already there right right yeah yeah it's true uh it's like not to people who are just there's not another level I don't want to

2:01:11insult our viewers but like where do people come from but these are not the viewers that we normally get these are people are coming in purposely to come here these are not our normal viewers so most of the people I've seen in here today were not our normal all a quarter of them were not our normal viewers uh uh no sorry uh blackest thing all blackest thing says support and Nathan Starman said oh no a juke thoughts yeah the MCU what do you see playing I think okay here's what I'll tell you because I got this sentence is kind of a late possibly a late scoop but I was sent this from a source and a source I trust the sources got a lot of stuff right with doomsday and they tell me that Noah jupe is Franklin Richards and there's a big time jump at the beginning of secret wars on battle world they also filmed a post credit scene with Wanda gathering a group of heroes and I was given permission to reveal that on our show so let me repeat that Noah jupe is Franklin Richards there's a big time jump at the beginning of secret wars on battle

2:02:15world and they also filmed a post credit scene with Wanda gathering a group of heroes so clearly Wanda coming back Noah jupe Franklin Richards battle world is in secret war so that's what I'm hearing from a source of mine Jeff what do you think I believe it I mean this is a roca rumor I buy I definitely think he he had Richard's written all over him like the photo that they chose him he even had a little earring yes yes right and it was like okay so your page your page like either Pedro Pascal or the spawn of Pedro Pascal yeah yeah right he just give very heavy a Pedro but young Pedro vibes me so for a second I thought he might be playing young Reed but it totally makes sense that he'd be playing his son Frank yeah yeah wait what's going on all the children aren't obviously involved in Avengers oh yeah yes yes yes yeah wait what's going on is please John Campy are doing a video right now on us oh he released it yes but I think he just did

2:03:17a video that was his clip from his segment apparently there's a new one that's no but it was I heard it was just the okay okay okay okay I mean people like there's absolutely what so he just okay hold on let's play this because he just posted this this is a new one so do you want to watch it or do you not want to watch it it's up to you are we allowed to do you want to we I thought we were closing the show do you want to close the show no no no okay okay I don't know I'll put it in this way I'm happy to come literally on any show that wants to talk to me about this like I'll explain myself if you actually have questions and an audience like if you really think what I did was that bad I'm happy to explain why it was literally not a big deal for me at all because I do it all the time like this is how I operate and if you don't like how I operate you don't have to read the newsletter but that is what it takes to be an independent

2:04:18journal was on the level that I'm at and competing with the publications that I'm competing for I'm the story I mean I'm not doing like Pidley casting rumors like I'm chasing the big stuff yeah I just think a lot of chirping from the choir who have no idea it seems like he's defending you is what they're saying people who watched it in the show I would assume so I like John no beef yeah yeah I wish I could be able John you know let me apologize to John right now John I am sorry that I did not respond to you as far as the gun stuff goes I wanted to let that marinade and let that just hang out there and let people kind of embarrass themselves because that was so silly like I'm a human being who also reads things on the internet and sometimes I repeat the things that I have read on the internet just like all of you and you don't need to like parse my like a newsletter is one thing because it's printing I've had time to like think about what's going to be in there and how I'm wording it if I'm I would never just blur it something like that out on a podcast and then

2:05:21yeah yeah the gun thing was ridiculous but yeah I clarified that I clarified that on Chris and Harlow show so yeah here's seven nights as high guys can I say that I have a crush on both of you all because you both tell it like it is oh you're cute kid so anyway I shouldn't say that that's I'm spoken for so you go ahead it's all you job yeah anyways um all right yeah what what an experience again I'm glad I've been through it before I'm glad I don't have a job uh who the boss that I have to like explain this to because it's like tough to explain if unless you know again you're one of a handful of people who can relate um yeah just uh ugliness on the internet that I think that's the real story or it's way worse than anything I fucking dead maybe I shouldn't give maybe I shouldn't pour gasoline on the fire and give into these trolls yes trolls are definitely the story here not me yeah I just think there's yeah that's it I like you get say I'm just playing the victim Jeff Snyder is a guy who simply got a tip about something

2:06:22did his job ask the right people who he should ask god ignored didn't get credit when the story became true basically and granted I didn't fully commit to the spook when we did it uh I don't decided to take credit yeah right because he's a bit of a dick I'll cop to that you know a bit of a dick and then gets turned into a monster uh because he has an ego and maybe he's a little full of himself like yeah what an asshole this guy's full of himself I'm not Harvey Weinstein you'd think I was judging by this shit I didn't see anything about like the wheel of fortune announcer who got fired tonight that's true that weekend Friday there wasn't outrage about that guy was looking at child porn not a big deal did he tweet about Indian have already that's a big deal Artemis said you should silly you should library acts camp is eight minute video on Jeff Jeff from Pablo Tore our journalistic goats I'm certainly not on the level of public Tore but I do think of this illustrates is just like yeah I'm out there doing good independent work and you

2:07:24can support it or not but don't fucking like hang on it because I'm trying like yeah I can't operate the way that the trades do I have to go through it back door sometimes and I also think there's a lesson to be learned Pablo is a sniper when he goes on social media you're a machine god and as I'm saying maybe you know Pablo's way of snipering rather than necessarily machine gun the lesson I learned okay of all of this was that you guys can't really handle well don't say our listeners say the people on the other people are listeners are the best dude you guys fucking rant and ready for two hours you guys are the best I love you right when I'm saying you guy I'm saying the public I'm saying Twitter yeah Twitter you can't really handle a peak behind the curtain at what it takes to make the sausage right like I can't post emails even if I didn't post anyone's name right I haven't released the public such as this yet I haven't I didn't like

2:08:26go off like I did on the searchlight lady who was just completely out of line like these people weren't out of line they just ignored me right right right the punishment fits the crime with me I have a pretty good scale so I didn't name either of these people um where I don't know where I was going with this point okay I've lost the plot literally we're now at the point of the podcast where I have a lot yeah I'm trying to get all the questions so we can get out of here so you don't have to lose the plot all right we did that Fred says for everyone in the ether Jeff is gonna Jeff Roca is gonna Roca it's like eating birdies every every flavor of jelly beans if you know you know I'm just being me it's like someone an alien landed on earth and listen to Howard Stern for the first time who's like whoa what is going on here like Howard's being Howard Jeff would Jeff today sorry to talk in the third person that's obnoxious but like I'm just I'm me and you either love me or hate me but if you hate me could you leave me alone yeah wait no it's all right yeah absolutely we're all right send in let's see we've got one more from Wayne Edwards

2:09:27thank you Wayne love your brother he says good evening John and Jeff I'm just now hearing about all this drama happening with Indie Navarretti there's no show like the hot mic on YouTube you both rock I'll rewatch the show later in the meantime here's some support love you guys thank you Wayne thanks to all of our listeners tonight our viewers tonight because I agree with you I thought this was gonna get a little insane and pretty much most everyone who is our regular viewers were uh really open to hearing your points of views and where you were coming from there were some people who came in here who had a hatchet or an axe to grind and they surrounded ground it and at times they veered into the same toxic territory that they accused you of even in the chat which is a lesson for them everyone's so pious everyone's so righteous these days right like exactly I'm a lot of things but at least I'm not a righteous douche yeah yeah fair point all right thank you guys so much for joining us Jeff where can they subscribe to newsletter again please let them know the insniter.com if you actually want to read what I wrote about this whole situation um you know

2:10:31hopefully it'll be done I don't know how long this this news cycle is gonna go like you'd think it's a 24 hour news cycle coming up on 24 hours uh maybe like can I move on there is this gonna be on all weekend thing for me I hope not um I'm off to see guns and roses tomorrow night excited to nice see axel who I used to listen to as a boy use your illusion man one and two fuck yeah um have a great labor day we can stay safe John thank you for having me on the channel given the platform to explain you did a great job uh thinking everything uh in control and in check and moderating the chat tonight so thank you appreciate that I am savvy Mike I read all your super chats bro I don't know what to you think I missed I just went through all the super chats and there is not two that I missed that I can see that we're not clicked on or read so I don't know what savvy Mike what your tweet if you want to send them real quick I read them all I read all your super chats bro so I don't know what to you think I missed because I'm looking at them right now they're all they're all shown to be read so I don't know what you think so if you want to put them in the chat

2:11:33real quick uh you know I'm yeah Sam says uh Sam a little bit of brother Snyder will always support since his butt on you bright my weeks keep up the good work dude much respect there you go all right that's it I gotta go sorry Mike sorry savvy I your things aren't there we read them all uh but if you want to send them to him we can maybe we read them next week I am exhausted I gotta go please make sure you subscribe to the channel down below and hit that bell button leave us all your comments with everything remember we are a podcast if you want us to old episodes you can go there and subscribe uh wherever you download a podcast and Jeff thank you for your kind compliments I appreciate it uh and we had a really good time today thanks to everybody have a great labor day weekend and look for posthumous geek buddy show this weekend and my uh video on Monday counting down I think the top 20 American movies or top 15 American movies ever made in honor of Labor Day so look for that on the channel coming on Monday as well all right much love everybody take care have a great night we'll talk to you next time with a brand new episode of the hot like have a happy Labor Day