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Hello everyone and welcome to, however podcast it gathers and you join us for this week's

news roundup with yet to chat all about what's going on in the world of Sunday FC around

the games, of course.

And with it being sudden, there's loads to talk about.

We've got plenty of stories to chat all about today.

First off, I am joined by Ann Walson.

Hello, mate.

Hello, mate.

Yaris.

I am very good, mate.

But also with us, we've got Martin Wannis.

Or is it Wannis?

Oh, go.

Because I want to see your name here.

Wrong mate, don't you?

I do, I keep you right.

Yeah.

Sorry, mate.

I'm crappin' names, everybody knows that.

I'm rubbish with names.

Even people have known for years.

I'm still rubbish with names.

Also, we have Andrew Smithson.

Hello, mate.

Hello, everyone.

I thought you were going to do a gag and mispronounce my name as well.

But that's not...

How do you mispronounce Andrew Smithson's?

I could...

I think of a few ways.

But you're a better man than me.

Have you resisted the urge to do a pathetic gag because of Fair Play?

I know.

I'm not very good with jokes.

Are you there really?

Really?

Kelvin Horston podcasts for that sort of thing.

Kelvin, Kelvin's the joke, man, on this little thing that we do.

Anyways, lad, like I said, plenty of news going on in the world of sudden.

I want to kick off with Portville.

Obviously, everybody knows we're playing them on Sunday.

But we didn't actually find out till very late on Tuesday.

That was who we were playing.

Ticket went on sale on Wednesday.

There was sold out, I think, on Thursday.

Which is just amazing, really.

I shouldn't be surprised by Southern fans.

But a game on 4 days note is selling out over 3000 Ticket to Martin.

It just goes to show you, doesn't it?

One of the mayors and fan base we've actually gotten.

These have become hot tickets.

I think it went down to 10 lowly points.

So even people who are desperate to go, who've barely gone, he points missed out.

But I just think it's great that we can say, like,

Sonland have sold out another award on 3 days, basically 3 days.

Well, actually, not even 3 days, what's it been 2 days?

To get them tickets sold off, it's classy.

Oh, yeah.

Oh, brilliant.

Everyone knew that we were either going to go to Portville or Bristol City, didn't they?

So people knew we're going to go to one place or the other.

And I think for travel and purposes, obviously, Portville is probably a little bit preferable

and trekking down to Bristol.

But it's fantastic.

And obviously, the win on Tuesday against Leeds will have helped us a bit.

But the FA Cup gives us such a massive opportunity.

And I think the fact that we're sick to sold out so quickly,

gives us a real impression of how seriously the fans want us to take this competition.

You know, we're safe and Premier League.

That's that bit ticked off.

Let's go and win the Budi FA Cup.

There's absolutely no reason why we cannot go and give this a really good

brilliant draw.

You know, for a fifth round draw, you have a lower division club away from home.

Great draw.

It's going to be a big game.

The pitch is obviously caused a few headlines.

And all that sort of stuff.

It's going to be a tough game.

But I'm desperate for us to go there, put out a really strong team, get the job done and

get into the quarterfinals because when you're in that position, who knows what happens.

So I think the fact that the fact that the ticket all went as quickly as the days just shows

how seriously the fans want the club to take the competition.

And to be fair, the club's taking the competition really seriously through the third round.

Haven't we?

So it's I'm really looking forward to that game.

Well, we'll save the kind of preview and stuff for a few days.

Time and put, you know, it's a great draw, isn't it?

Like, even though there's always the chance of an upset, it's a good cup draw.

If I was a nuke, well, I'd be tuned into this game.

Like, sun and playing in the Premier League against a team who are bottom of league one.

It just, it's all set up.

And as Martin said, on that pitch, all set up to be a proper like old school FA Cup clashes.

Isn't it?

I mean, like I say, we don't want to go into the end and out right now.

But are you happy with the draw?

Oh, 100%.

100%.

I mean, I hope it's not a repeat of Bradford.

I mean, I feel Bradford.

Oh, no.

I don't under a crap pitch.

The sound of the button.

But now, I mean, I think these are the lowest side left in our bottom.

But I don't think there's any league two sides left unless I'm misty.

Man, a man's field still in.

I don't know what he's doing.

I'm in league one.

And so, bottom, bottom league one.

I suppose if there's nobody in league two, then yeah.

It would be nice.

I mean, I apologize if anyone's standing in league two.

There's some nip air cookers down in the dream.

But now it is.

It's a really good draw for us.

You know, like, you know, taking 3,000 funds down there, they're going to be loud as hell.

I think the team will cope on whatever pitch they turn out.

And that is a bit like a cogmire at the minute.

And obviously Bristol City struggled on it.

But we're in a Bristol City.

We were established for a million sides.

Now, I was some excellent players.

And I fully expect the part of team out there winning the game.

And I fully expect us to win the game hopefully without a couple of ankle injuries

or whatever from the pitch.

But now it's class.

And Martin said before, you know, we're two games away from Wimbledon.

You know, we beat them.

We're one game away.

We're going to nice, you know, a nice decent drawing a quarter finals.

And you never know about the past last year.

Why can't that with us?

That's right.

Isn't that under a why not us?

I mean, it's a great draw.

And then the parallels have been drawn, of course, that in each round, I think.

Have we played a team we played in 92?

Have I got that wrong?

Have we played a part of the game?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

The other teams that we played in that run.

I just don't know.

I know.

I just don't know.

Yes.

Nor are just still there.

So I'll live a pooler still there.

You know, interesting one.

It is.

And I mean, it's nice for that little link with the with the nightly 92 memories.

But it's probably one of the better draws to having general because there's still a lot

of Premier League teams in there could have very easily had a had a more difficult tie

that would be talking about right now.

But I'm like yourself, guys.

I'm saying this is is a really exciting fixture for us.

I'm really looking forward to it.

I'm a bit good at the here there that it went down to ten points because I'm almost

to miss red.

The release because I think I saw something like I thought it was going to like 30 points

plus and I thought I've got no chance.

Had I had I realized that people with ten or more points could have got tickets all

over that because I am really looking forward to it.

I think it's going to be a great away day.

Great game.

And I, if it leads to a final against Liverpool in a couple of months time and a repeat of

nineteen ninety two, then happy days with will enjoy the ride.

I will stay on the back of that guy.

I don't think the tickets were on sale for very long today.

So it was practically sold out yesterday.

And then I think it was eight minutes and it was sold out for the ten plus because I was

trying to get one for me mate.

And I've got over 30 but I've read it wrong.

That's for that people from Andrews.

And I thought 30 points was today.

So, when I found out it was ten, I was like, oh, this is going to be tight.

And I was on website at twelve and I was in the pub, but it sold out by eight minutes past

twelve or something.

So, pretty much sold all in one day yesterday.

Yeah.

And of course, aren't you?

You were getting that ticket for your mate with his points, weren't you?

And you weren't breaking the teasing seas of you?

No, no.

It was this.

Yes, he's got over there.

You are now.

I think we found out why we got charged extra for a season card.

He's got all of that.

That's all I can tell you.

Listen to this.

Listen to this.

That is all sorted.

I am back.

Yeah, we're going to be previewing the game in product detail over the coming days.

So, tomorrow as this goes out tomorrow on Saturday, we have that position preview with

BBC Radio Stokes, Phil Bowers.

I got to chat to him.

That was a great conversation just to find out more about podville.

And then on match day, there will be the match day preview, which I think as of now, it's me, you and Chris Andrews.

So, people want to listen to us talk a little bit more about the game coming up over the coming days.

Then they can.

And if the city here are now our voices, then they can just not bother.

That would be nice, wouldn't it?

Yeah, I'm just checked as well.

They asked the other lowest team left in.

There's them in Mansfield.

Yeah, from the one that everyone else has challenged, apparently.

So, yeah.

Great cocktail.

Great cocktail.

And more happy news over the last week, I saw young pervade as gone Martin.

Somebody I thought we were never going to get shot off somebody who's on massive money.

And maybe not for a Premier League player, but certainly by championship status from what I heard was one of the top earners at the club in the championship.

Probably got a rise based on promotion.

You would imagine had a lot of length left on the deal.

He's eventually gone.

He's gone to international dibogata team.

I'd never heard of.

So, when I googled on the other day, found out the top of the league in Columbia and the renewed team.

So, they basically stole the place of another club in the pyramid.

And they're top of the league.

They've got loads of money behind them.

Apparently Ryan Reynolds has involved in that club, which is interesting.

Yeah, he's an investor in that club.

And yeah, he's gone to Columbia.

I don't know much about the club, but the, but sfc.com did say that we got an undisclosed fee for pervade.

So, we did at least get something for him.

He's off the books.

I've got to say he's one of the worst transfers under the regime that we're under now.

I would say when you take into account length of contract,

alleged wages of over 25,000 pounds a week in the championship.

I think he, you know, we talked about a good recruitment,

but that was probably a risk that we didn't need to take.

And it's took a little while to get rid of him.

And I'm amazed somebody's paid money.

But what, yeah, it's probably going to go down alongside,

maybe a Milton Nunez as a blink in your mist type of playoff or something.

Well, quite possibly.

And it's such a bizarre one when you look back on it, isn't it?

You know, he's got such a good pedigree.

He's been a big club.

He's been a Barcelona man city and, you know, Arsenal Chelsea,

all this sort of stuff.

And I, I do wonder how much this transfer affected Stuart Harvey at the club.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah, I was going to say him.

Yeah.

If you remember on the video, because the club made a hell of a big deal

about the sign when it came off, didn't it?

And it was all sorts of footage of him traveling up in the car

and getting transported in the back of somebody glitzy limo.

And I must admit, as soon as I watched that video,

and I don't know if anybody can remember it and dig it out,

but I just thought to myself, this is not the type of person

who's going to succeed here, because he came across really strangely.

Stuart Harvey was all over.

Sorry, mate.

I remember when the club did talk in at the stadium

and they released the footage from it.

And it was all new sign-ins.

Yeah.

And they had them all.

And I think they put them out.

It was like the first half.

It was Frankie Francis with all the players.

And in the first half, they had like three or four of them.

And in the second half, they had the other three or four.

And it's the most awkward interview I've ever seen.

Yeah.

He just couldn't get his words out.

He didn't look like he wanted to be there.

Like I felt sorry for Frankie trying to question him.

I mean, I was the, as soon as he said that,

he was just thinking, not a son of a player.

Yeah.

100%.

And Stuart Harvey was all over that video.

He was welcoming me.

Right.

He'd been with him at Blackburn.

So I think Pervade just had a loan spell at Blackburn.

Right.

Yeah.

So I think there was an existing relationship there.

And you just wonder how much that impact is his stand-in

at the club and his reputation at the club,

because, as he says, as we let to believe,

it was big money he was on.

And it was a big sign in the forest.

And his father didn't kind of say the logic behind it.

He'd been on loan.

I think the chef wed the season before we signed it.

Yeah.

And he created some goals.

He added a bit of flair to that team that we needed.

We needed that sort of that sort of flair in the team.

It was more brilliant the man's you when he signed.

I can't remember.

No, no.

No, no, no, no.

It'll be in the press.

There's this.

Yeah.

Yeah.

That's that.

That's that.

That's that.

Yeah.

Yeah, look, it's just one to kind of consign to test.

Yeah.

I'm glad we've actually managed to get him off the books.

And look, to be fair to him, if he is wanting to play football.

And I think we saw it was pretty seasoned.

Wasn't where he got a couple of others against South Shields

or the other team that we played in that weekend.

Yeah, Ted, I think.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And look to be fair to him, if he's getting into shape and wants to play football, we've just

jogged on Miles ahead of where he's at.

So, you know, if he's wanting to get back on the field and play football, it's a good move

for him potentially and hopefully he does well.

He's a Colombian international.

So he's, you know, while he's from London, or born in London, he's obviously got links to

Colombia.

So to go to South America and get some football, hopefully he does well.

But it's not a sign in that.

We'll go down in the, in the fond memories of some of the supporters.

As I say, it's probably the one big negative about the recruitment of this club has done

over the past few years.

And I can't think of anybody else here we've signed to, there's made less of an impact

and we've spent so much money on.

Obviously, you can't, when you go back in.

It has decade or so.

But, you know, in the past few years from the Kerala, Louis Dreyfus, I think that's the

one that we've really got wrong.

Yeah, that's, that's correct.

And I think, you know, he came in and I was a bit on the fence with it.

I was trying to say the positives of Paveira, I think.

And well, as Martin said, the season before, he had a great loan with Chef Wedden.

And their fans really rated them.

I mean, I remember I think I did an interview on our website with a Chef Wedd fan.

And they sport really well of him.

But the, the caveat was always, he's always injured.

If you can keep him fit, he's a crap and player.

I remember the leads fan, I worked with telner's that, you know, he was at leads and him saying,

no, he's a crap and player.

Like, he's, there's a player in there, you know, he was good for us.

So I remember being really boyed by it, but I think Martin hit the nail on the head day.

He just never felt like a son of a player.

Did he?

You certainly didn't feel like a Regis Lebrisse winger because we know our manager likes wingers who graft.

And he just doesn't have an ounce of graft in him, I think.

No, you're right.

And it was a pretty, pretty bad sign and wasn't it?

And the bother was, it was just, you know, the amount of money he was on as well.

I mean, didn't he double that this season as well?

Because he did.

I think it's kind of good.

But there's been plenty of room as, isn't it?

Yeah.

Or he would have been my highest earners this season as well.

That was last season.

So I'll tell you what.

Or you can understand that he could have easily sat in one when he's cracked down.

And he had another year didn't he?

So fair play to him for actually wanting to lead.

And wanting to go and play football again.

And that's fair.

Because, you know, I'll lessen up in order to say, well, I'm on a nice earner right now.

I'm just kind of sit down and seeing the corner.

And I've got anybody knows what he's getting paid over there.

If there is, there's riches what you see in sort of.

Well, there's no money.

And, you know, it's Columbia.

So God knows where else the money's coming from.

No, he didn't have any other times.

I remember him playing was obviously key him on in a whole game and went back off again after about three and a half minutes.

And then against Perra when he was playing Tony Falli's ass.

So, you know, we'll always have that one.

But I was happy to fall on your ass again.

So fair enough.

Good luck with him.

I don't wish him any guilt.

He'll help the rest of my life.

You know what I mean?

But yeah, it's it's done.

It's gone.

And as he's usable quite often.

I think that's probably why Stuart Harvey is no longer under the employment of Sunday F.C.

So there we are.

Well, quite possible.

Isn't it maybe that in a few of those, you know, he got him here.

You don't know it.

Yeah, you don't know what goes on.

I was going to let this sell.

But bars the last of the bombs caught in the in the building.

I think everyone else has gone.

He must just sit around on his own in the in the can team when everyone else is out there.

He's just sat over these feet.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Andrew, any part in words about young Perv.

I like a pretty unspectacular player for us.

But I do have to admit, I'm glad he's gone.

It's just one of them.

Do you know the end of January?

You sat there and you're looking at the squad and you're going.

I hope he goes.

I hope he goes.

He was like one where I was just thinking, I just want a bit of him.

Like out the door.

Let's forget about anything like that.

And yeah, at least he's gone.

Well, yeah.

And it suggests that we're already getting things in place for next season.

We're trying to tie up any loose ends, get as much money available so that when the summer

comes and we negotiate and we're not hamstrung by just dead, dead wages.

And yeah, okay.

This one hasn't worked out, but Perv.

I probably fell into that same category of the likes of Jack Clark, Patrick Roberts.

Players whose careers had gone a bit off track.

We'd seen something.

We thought we could maybe turn it around.

Get them back to their best.

I think when you sign in that type of player, there's.

There is a high likelihood of it going wrong.

You just, you take that gamble because you know that when it turns out right,

you've got somebody like Patrick Roberts or Jack Clark, who became favorites.

That's where, that's where this was a stranger because we gave him such a long contract.

I think when you get, you know, I remember Roberts only got a short term deal, didn't he?

And Clark came in on loan.

It was a kind of like try before you buy, you think?

That's where I think they've got a really wrong opinion.

That was a long contract.

Well, yes.

And this is what I mean about.

Now, having that off the books gives us a bit of freedom in the summer.

Admittedly that I hadn't really considered that when I was going down the route, you'd say.

And they're a similar prof, he's a similar profiler to Clark and Roberts.

I just think in general, our recruitment's been excellent.

And even the best of the best are going to have calculated gambles where it doesn't quite work out.

With at least by the looks of it, cut our losses now and brought an end to it.

He won't be the last Sunland player who comes along and struggles to make an impact.

But it is what it is.

Yeah.

Moving on slightly, Martin, we've got a bit of news, I guess, on injuries and stuff.

Three wingers all injured.

Bert and Trioria looks like he's going to be out for a little while.

Reducing the breeze said that if he had trioria had suffered a reoccurrence of the same problem which he had before,

which probably means he's going to be out a month, six weeks, eight weeks.

Possibly could be longer, depending on how serious it is.

And I imagine as this goes out, it'll be Friday morning, Friday afternoon.

He's going to do a press conference.

So you would like to think we'll get an update on that this afternoon.

The other two are remain Mundle and Jocelyn Tabby.

Both have had surgery on their injuries and are out for the season.

So a week ago, a week and a half ago, we had three more wingers than we do now,

or four if you can't pervade her.

But it does leave us a little short, doesn't it?

In those wide positions that we're going to lose these players.

And I guess in some sense as well, it gives opportunities to other players that may otherwise not have got in.

You know, the Tabby and Gulo are going to be trusted a little bit more.

My end, I might be trusted a little bit more.

Could even say a little bit more Chris Riggs.

So it's not all bad, but it's just a shame, isn't it?

When lads are out for the season, the economy and impact?

Well, it absolutely is.

I think there's a few different dimensions to this, isn't it?

Because Triore came in kind of as almost as a last resort sign,

a bonus in a kind way.

Because we were obviously trying to get a right winger in all summer.

We didn't get the one we wanted.

So we got him on deadline day if we were relatively cheap fee.

And, you know, he's done pretty well.

I think it's as happened sometimes as stocks growing a little bit as he's been out since, since before Afcon.

Because obviously you went away to Afcon and came back with an injury that's kept him out until the last couple of days or the last couple of games rather.

And he seems to have suffered this reoccurrence against lead.

So given that we're safe in the Premier League, how much he would have played between now and the end of the season.

I don't really know because I suspect the Bristol want to give angular chances.

He spent a lot of money on him.

The club have Talbi is obviously got huge potential and will be wanting to give him game time.

And when you've got Jack as the Diki in DR of faith, the phase is going to go on the left hand side anyway.

So, you know, by virtue of the fact we've got DR of back, we've got another option out wide with the fade now anyway.

So, how much trioray would have played between now and the end of the season? I'm not too sure.

I think he would have been part of the squad and played now and again.

But I'm not sure he would have been a regular as he was sort of before Christmas.

I actually, I'd be surprised if we see him again.

I have to say because I think this injury will keep him out for by the sounds of it by a month, six weeks.

And by the time he's got back fat and all that.

So, you know, it's a start of March now.

A couple of times you kind of get in towards the FA Cup final, aren't you?

So, he could make an appearance from the bench at Wembley and ground off his glorious sundaunt career by lifting trophy.

So, look, is that what I think the biggest one that I'm disappointed about was Talbi,

or Jocelyn, as he's known or Jimmy, his I've named him.

Because I think he's got a huge potential.

We just saw it in flashes, didn't we, against Oxford?

And then in the full and home game that he started, he's won.

I think is an absolute wild card to come off the bench and just create havoc.

And it's really disappointing for him and for the club that he's out for the rest of the season.

But he arrived with a sort of question mark over his fitness, didn't he?

And I think we thought we could get him back fit without surgery.

That's obviously proved not to be the case.

Well, give him time to settle into the area, get him settled into the club.

And hopefully you'd be raring to go to the start next season.

So that's, that's potentially a big one for us to have for next season.

That'll be like that proverbial new sign, won't it?

Because he's barely cleared.

Mundler, I feel really sorry for because he's getting so much unjust stick

from various sections of people primarily on social media.

And I think he's got tons of potential.

But he's getting, it's interesting with Mundler, listen,

because he's getting to the age where he can need to make it.

He keeps getting unjust.

And he keeps getting unjust.

And he kind of wonder where his future actually lies.

So I think that's going to be really interesting to watch over the next few months

because I would not be surprised to see him leave in the summer.

And I think if you've got to play like I choose what 24 now,

and you can't keep him fit, then you can't build anything around him,

which is a real shame because I think he's, as I say, he's got tons of potential.

But as we said at the top of that,

it opens up doors for people like Talbi and Gulo,

winning it like that.

You know, there's probably a couple of other people who can chuck into that mix as well.

Like my ender outweighs, as he says.

And it just gives him experience, doesn't it?

So I think you've got to look on the positive side of that.

But it's never nice to see players in just...

Yeah, that's it.

And obviously we're good to not have these lads available.

In particular for me, Talbi, I was just like, as Martin said,

if we're playing crap and we need somebody to come on and

spot life into the game, that's exactly what you want.

Someone in the game who just isn't interested in doing anything,

but running out of people.

So it's gotten that we're not going to have him for the rest of the season.

I think Martin makes a good point there,

the one I'll get your thoughts on it about Monday.

Could his time be up at Sunday, do you think, now?

Have we seen the last of them, potentially?

I think I mentioned this whenever I was last on it.

I actually think he will be away in a summer.

I'm really doing feel sorry for him, like I say,

no one deserves the abuse that he got and everything like that.

But the fact it's always the same injury, isn't it?

It's left hamstring or something that keeps on going on.

And that's worrying because if it's reoccurring all the time,

then you've obviously got a problem.

So like I said, I feel sorry for him, I feel sorry for...

I really do feel sorry for Talbi as well.

I agree with you as both.

I think even though we had a very interesting first start for us,

I thought what you saw, what was good was very, very good.

Do you know what I mean?

So it is a shame.

And then obviously with Trio, I mean, he did not look happy after all

when it came off on Tuesday night.

And I looked as if that was a pretty bad injury, but I think he did.

You know, just mentioned then, the younger period of them.

I think he did.

He didn't.

He had a KM on last of three minutes.

But I think he did.

No, actually going back to Mondo.

You know, Martin's probably hit him down on the head day.

You know, 24-year-old Winger who is going to be thinking,

what next season is going to be a bit parklier?

I think we can probably do a dispenser with that.

And I'd imagine he probably would be, you know, in a championship.

He'd be out of the footballer.

I still think he can make it in Premier League, since he's never fed.

And then when you look at Angolo, you know,

who slowly become a good player, I mean, on Tuesday night, he grafted his ass off.

You know, the stuff that he was doing on the ball,

it doesn't always work out.

You expect that in young Winger.

But it is an effort and determination against a very, very strong lead side.

He was kicking us, you know, while I was a shot, was brilliant.

Like, I thought, he was one of my standout players.

I've got to be honest.

So with him, obviously, with Talbi, you know,

we got into very young, very raw Winger.

It's put, then, you've got, you know, ends on the fair, who will be playing.

I would imagine that.

Well, I tell you, and the season now, who's still who's just unbelievable.

So that kind of is a spot we're just going to look out on the right.

And then, obviously, when Bobby's back, which isn't too long,

we could build my under there, which I have to think my under,

is a better Winger than he is a striker.

You know, that just, you see more of him,

ruining the defenders, what you do when he does a front,

when he hasn't got that much service,

or it just works out that.

Yeah, it works out for me at the end of the season.

If we're after some Winger's again,

which I think we will be especially on the right,

then Mondo doesn't fit for me.

So it'll be a shame for it is what it is, isn't it?

That's it, yeah.

Like I say, Andrew, he keeps getting the same injury as Martin pointed out.

You know, he's, he's of an age where you need,

you need him to stay fit.

But more importantly for me, the rate at which the club has grown,

we're just moving past people.

And if, you know, if you're struggling any ways,

if you're getting, if you're getting into a rock with injuries,

the pretty ruthless is this ownership in this, this regime.

They'll just sign somebody else and they'll move on, won't they?

But I hope it's not the end, like I would love a fairytale story

where he does a great preseason and all of a sudden,

we're looking at remain Mondo and going, what a player.

He can make an impact on the Premier League or potentially in Europe next season.

You never know, you never know.

I'm going to keep banging that drum.

I want that in the minds.

But no, in all seriousness though, you know,

it's, I do have kind of one eye on the future with all of these players,

like triorea, when he signed a one year deal,

hasn't stayed fit.

He was good when he was fit,

but we've not really seen him since December.

Mondo can't stay fit.

Tabi was signed with an injury and is very young and raw,

so is one for the future.

But it kind of does make you look ahead slightly, doesn't it all of this

and makes you think of right okay?

Who can take the opportunity first and foremost?

Who can come in when they're not playing and making an impact?

But two, between now and the end of season,

we've got to think about what we do in the summer as well.

Of course.

And we've already seen, have you talked about the club being in ruthless?

We've already seen, I'm good.

Not I'm good.

Simon Adingra.

Sorry his name.

Yeah, my name's...

Slipmore Mipre Moorwood there.

He was brought in on big money,

given a few months,

and it didn't work out,

so we've moved him on.

So yeah, this is a position in the pitch where the club had been trying

a few different things over the last couple of years,

and it's probably an area of the pitch where they've had the least success,

I might say.

So there might be people moving on.

I think I've already heard a few people just saying in general

that they wouldn't be surprised to see one or two more of the

championship squad being allowed to head off in the summer.

It's important to me though,

with Mundel and Tarby,

that just purely as people,

we take care of them,

because it's right that we're talking about how it impacts the squad,

but Mundel's just had all of this

horrible racism rubbish hanging around him recently.

So his last game,

the Sunland, could well be a game where he's Mr Sitter

and then being subject to a load of abuse.

You've said already that he's,

the lads had a few injuries already in his career.

The lads might be feeling pretty down at the moment,

and we need to support him as a person,

as much as an athlete.

If it is to be his last performance at Sunland,

I think he can still have a good career elsewhere.

Am I right in thinking he had some sort of mild link in the summit

of somebody,

a big team in France or somewhere like that?

It was France, so,

Belgium or Holland or something.

Right.

And that was, say, every country in Europe, Martin,

the current base isn't there.

But it was really interesting because there was a feeling

during the summit during preseason that he was going to leave.

I remember there was a bid in forum

or there was strong links going on.

And the assumption was,

oh, shit, he's going to leave.

And everyone was going,

why were letting him go?

And we thought it was a really big, a big loss.

The next day, he suffered an injury in training.

So there's been this sort of rumor about him potentially leaving.

I will just check myself.

I said he was 24 early.

I've aged him a year.

He's 23 next month.

So he's not as old as I am.

I said he was.

But there's been that continual.

I'm not sure what it is,

but I think the fact that he left Spurs

to go up at the stand of the years.

He turned down in contract.

The Spurs to go over to Belgium at a young age.

It shows that he's willing to move.

He wants to do the best thing for his career.

And the reality is,

when he gets back fully fit,

the best thing for his career,

at 23, as we've discovered,

is going to be to play first in football, isn't it?

So he's not going to,

I just don't see a way in the world.

If he's, when he's fully fit again,

he's going to be content

being sat in the bench,

getting training minutes here and there,

because we are going to sign other wingers in the summer.

So I just,

I kind of say of a future for him elsewhere,

but you know,

he could go out and learn,

have a crack in season somewhere

and come back and get a place for us,

couldn't he, if he proves his fitness?

So I do think he's a good player.

I like him.

I think he's got loads of potential.

I like his directness.

He gets in,

cuts inside, shoots,

which we kind of lack.

We don't have enough players who do,

do that.

We take a chance from distance.

And he will,

but I think he,

he's,

this season he's been funny.

I think he seemed like a player

desperate to make an impression for me,

rather than a player who's kind of feeling the thing

he can ease his way into the size.

I think that was always going to come with some players

during Afcon,

where they got a chance.

And I think he,

he plays,

if he was too eager to impress,

which it's,

it's understandable I did,

but it's, say it's just a real shame

that he's picked up this injury again.

But the loan option there, Martin,

that you mentioned,

that wouldn't be a bad idea for Mundle,

because he is perhaps somebody

who,

you could say,

the club being in two minds over.

I think the Briss likes him as well.

The Briss trusts him

against him more minutes

than a lot of the other options.

So they might say a loan

there's a potential halfway house to,

see if he can get through the fitness concerns.

And then the door might be open for him.

At the end of that,

we,

we don't know.

Just going back to Tobi as well,

a similar point

of what I said about Mundle.

I think as well,

he is a young lad who's just been

parachuted into a completely different country.

I don't know if he can speak the language.

I don't know if he's got himself fixed up with digs

or whatever.

Again,

I really hope the club,

and I think there will be,

because we seem to be pretty switched on

and we seem to be alert

to these types of issues now.

I just hope that he's not a young lad

who's left in his flat

or whatever now for a couple of months

with no mention.

I hope the club are keeping him integrated,

keeping him part of things,

because it's a big thing for a lad

that he wants to make his mark

and the Premier League,

it's a dream move.

So suddenly then the,

on the injury list,

can't hit your heart.

And when you add that,

the fact that he could be unfamiliar with the area

and be missing his family,

missing his mates.

I do hope that Sunlander

is just mindful of these things

with these injuries.

And last thing, Martin,

you can't refer to him

who is, is Jimmy,

which I think is hilarious.

What I think is the funniest thing about it, though, is

I don't think you've ever given any context to it.

So there's going to be some,

I'm not going to join the dogs.

There's going to be some young ones

scratching their heads thinking,

what on earth is eating them?

I'm one of them.

I haven't got a clue.

Like, I don't tell them that one.

Don't tell them, Martin.

Jimmy Tabby.

Tabby.

Don't get it.

Oh, Jimmy Tabby.

Jimmy Tabby, was that?

You know, I...

Tabook.

Jimmy Tabook.

Oh, I knew, Jimmy Tabook.

Obviously, I knew that.

It was called Tabby.

I was nicknamed Tabby.

I never got a name.

God.

I'm not as old as you, too.

Thank God.

Kelvin got it.

Kelvin.

Yeah.

We fair had to get it,

hence why I laughed before,

but I didn't want to,

like, go on about being old

because I'm 40 in two months.

Yeah.

Yeah.

But the West Ham fans call in

some of them, Jimmy.

Don't they call them Jimmy,

some of them?

Oh, yeah.

Yeah.

And he was asked about,

and he went, I haven't got a clue

what it means.

I think that...

Anyway, it's like Martin or the furry

network of fans being in Tabby there,

as it gets.

So Martin just go,

all right, Jimmy.

Well, I'm available with fans.

I think it's like once the sponsor

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after the break coming up.

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Next item on the list.

The next item on the list,

Martin.

Pre-season.

So I'm going to head into

the US of A

to take on a bunch of teams.

And it's a,

it's a nice,

nice little trip

for the fans.

Head Nova.

Nice one for the

fans in North America.

Who don't get to say the team

very much.

And things kick off

on the 25th of July

with a game in Nashville.

The music city

against Liverpool.

We then five days later.

Head to New Jersey

and take on leads,

which is a game.

I'm sure everyone

will be desperate to watch

after the match

of that night.

And the reaction

from the leads fans

when the realiser

were playing Sunday

the game.

So soon after the match

of the night on social media.

Price, let's just dig it out.

If you can,

just look for the post

that leads put on

about playing us.

They're fans,

obviously massively

up for that one.

And then we round things

off on the second of August

with a game in Pennsylvania

against Rexham,

who of course

have a massive following

in the state

because of Ryan Reynolds

and Rob McLean.

So they are the Disney team.

So they're always over there.

But for us,

Martin,

nice trip for us, isn't it?

I mean,

I'll not be there, of course.

I know

Craig Chapman of this parishes

heading across

for that one.

But yeah,

nice to be involved

in these sort of big

pre-season

to us again.

I think they make it

boring very quickly,

like, you know,

when we're,

we're never playing in the UK

and stuff.

And I don't get to get

many of the games.

But I think it's just

a sign of the progress

we've made.

And interestingly,

that it wasn't announced

until after we'd hit

40 points.

I don't know if there was

anything in that.

But, uh,

did we need a confirm

we were staying up

before we were confirmed

our involvement in that

maybe?

But yeah,

can you little trip for us?

Excellent trip.

I was, I was hoping

that we couldn't

go Australia.

It'd be fair,

but America's a good one for us.

And,

well, I think it's just,

it just shows the

standing of the club

and how that's increased.

Yeah.

They were getting invited

because he presumed that,

you know,

we were invited to take

part in this.

I think there's probably

something in this as well.

Mm-hmm.

And that just shows

the commercial

aptitude that's

that.

The club that we're getting

invited to these things

and getting over to the

state.

And, look,

if there's a way of

increasing our fan base

over there, you know,

it's great if there's

a lot of sports base over

in America who

will get a sales play,

which is nice for them.

But it's good to raise

the profile of the club

over in the state as well.

I think there'll be a number

of people who are familiar

with Sunderland

through Netflix

as they are

around the world.

And that's great for

us to be able to

leverage that.

Still, you know,

it's still written

rewards.

So it's a good

one to be involved with.

The thought of Sunderland

versus Leeds after

Tuesday night in New

York on New Jersey,

wherever it is,

is fantastic.

And,

I did enjoy the reaction

of the Leeds fans.

I enjoyed the reaction

of the Leeds fans

after the game.

I thought it was,

it was bizarre in terms

of the level of arrogance

that they had.

The mags,

wouldn't it?

Oh,

the worst.

I actually worse.

The amount of,

you know, the lack of

self-awareness,

I know this is not the

point of the conversation.

But the lack of

self-awareness

for a team

that gave this reputation

and has a tall sense

of being

from Rebby's teams

of the 60s and 70s.

I just saw it was

astronomical in terms

but lack of self-awareness

it has.

Because they're called

dirty Leeds

and 50 years later

they're still called dirty Leeds.

And I tell you what,

unbelievable.

But you look brilliant.

Great trip.

I'm looking forward

to watching those games.

I think the good

level of,

good level of competition

as well, which I think

is important.

You know,

you look at some of the

three seasons that we've had.

And the criticism has been

that we haven't played

a good enough level

of teams sometimes.

I think we started

rectifying that last three

season.

And,

yeah,

Liverpool Leeds.

And,

really interesting as well,

isn't it?

It could be a

Premier League team

by then.

It could very well be,

which you're

going a little bit.

Sure.

Parking in the Premier League.

That's one for the ages.

But we'll cross

that bridge when we come to

it.

It's a good one.

And again, it just shows

the level of quality

at the club on and off the

fields.

That's sacked

by then, I think.

Andrew,

you're the man

who never misses an

opportunity to watch

your Sunland game,

whether it's the

under 18s playing

in the youth cup

or the

dog and duck playing

against our

Z team in the Northern

Lions or whatever.

You never miss a

match.

But you've gone over

as a stretch too far for you.

Is it a bit too far

from the beach?

It's a stretch too far.

I mean, when I go,

when I go and watch the Z team

against the dog and duck,

I've got me boots

with us just on the

off chance that they're

short and I can finally

get a play

for Sunland.

But no, given the way

the conversation

about renewing season

tickets is like

neat to go.

Oh, I'm not going

to be dropping in.

Oh, and by the way,

I've caught a

America

and spending all

of our savings.

Martin makes a good

point.

I think it is important

that there's some

quality opposition there

because last time

we're in America,

it was good in terms of

PR, but the team did

fail under

cooked that season.

Where is this

quality of season

just gone?

Everybody was

up in arms about

Sunland losing all

the time.

But it worked because

come the real stuff,

come West Ham at the stage

in the late

on the open day of the

season.

We were absolutely

ready to go.

We were, we were

much sharpened

and looking fantastic.

So that side of things

is good.

It is.

It's a great

marketing

and particularly

against Rex and there's

going to be a lot

of eyes on that game.

I will just make one

like word of caution.

America's not the

most stable of places to

be coming at the moment.

I mean, I know, I know

as football is there,

Sunland are going to be

having the best of the best

and looked after,

but fair play

to the lads and lasses

who do go over there

because I don't know

like it's a bit

wild at the moment.

I wouldn't fancy it,

I don't think.

Would just be just

how I look.

Wouldn't it be

a bit of a miss I'll

be launched or something

or something like that?

No one.

I've done ballad.

I don't ballad would

head it away.

So that's that.

But what, but no,

yeah, it would be,

I don't know.

Please will that one.

It would be

typical.

Sudden and yet,

go and get ourselves

involved in some sort of

international crisis.

Well, this is the

club who try to sign a

strike.

Who, then, got shot

in the head.

So anything is indeed

possible.

Yeah.

on a different topic. I want to bring this up really quickly, just to get everyone's thoughts

quickly on it. I know we could probably do a full pod on this, but and it's not even involved in

Sunland and we're hopefully we're never likely to play in the AFL playoffs again ever. We'll

never leave the Premier League. But you might have seen that the AFL announced that from next season

there will be expanding the playoffs in the AFL to six teams, a bit like what they're doing

in the national league and obviously this is caused absolute uproar, but we've been in those

playoffs a lot in the last decade or so. Well, what we've been in now, five times, I think three

times in league one and then twice in the championship. So we've got a lot of experience of playing

in in the playoffs. Just watch your thoughts initially on that and sort of the integrity of the

competition change and I guess because yeah, it's meant to be the four teams who've really worked

hardest, but it's going to expand the six. So how does that make you feel when you hear it?

I'm in the middle with it. I've got to be honest. I'm in the middle. I think it's only for the

championship business. No, don't hit lead one on league. So we'll have it yet. For now.

Sorry, I'm just sticking about the American Tour of 2020 23BX gone.

I'm not in my mind. We're back. But yeah, the problem will be for me, I think, if the team

finishes like third in the table, end up playing the team, if it was EX and they'd be a hell of a

point. The long list between third and sick isn't there and people say that's unfair. But also,

as well, I think on the both side of it, it makes it makes a little bit more, but you look at the

championship this season, it's been very, very powerful. Obviously, the top three seem you run

away with it a little bit now, especially currently better in EX. But from that, like from like third,

fourth to 12, some of the still chance for people to end the playoffs. And you've got like good

teams, like good old fashioned teams, like Derby, Watford and all that, they were like,

you know, I've been on the family for a little while now. So I'm going to understand that part of it.

You know, it makes it a little bit more interesting for them to keep on going, not just beyond the

beach, you know, for the last six weeks or so, you know, you're not getting the playoffs. So that's

you know, it gives that a little bit of a curve, but I just don't know if, you know, the integrity

of the playoffs, you know, that big game at Wembley has the team after this is eighth and maybe 20

of points behind third. That's the only difference. But for me, I'm, I'm okay with it. I mean,

I'm just in fears as it all, I think, like I say, you know, you get a good side who, you know,

sometimes fall off of injuries and finish eighth and that's better enough isn't it, but

it'll be interesting. Next season, that's what Sherwick got because, you know, you've got some

good sides in it. You mentioned Rex and you're burning him over for the money. I can quite happen

for them this year, but you've got some teams you'll be coming up from, um, league one, like

so Cardiff, we've got a lot of money back against the announce who will be very interesting.

Any strong thoughts on the playoffs, Martin? Is it something when you saw that year?

We're a bit knocked back because it does seem to have really irritated people this, that they've

decided to basically change something that you could argue. Didn't need changing, but some of them,

like I said, we've got a rich history with the playoffs. I say rich, we've not won it that many

times, but, um, we've won it twice. We've been in a plenty of time. So we've got plenty of

extremes of being in there, but yeah, we feel a bit different wouldn't it if we had to go through

several more hoops to eventually get the Premier League? Well, I think it's important to understand

how it's going to work, right? So I think the way it's obviously expanded down to eighth,

and you know, you look at the last season when we were, well, we were 14 points behind Chef

Fyneuters, and Millwall Renate, they were 24 points behind Chiffields and Outers. So you could end

up with a situation where a team who was 24, 30 points behind another team going up in their

place, which you can argue whether that's fair enough. They obviously want to do it to make

the championship more exciting, and you know, as Anne talks about, you know, preventing those dead

rubber games towards the end of the season, because pretty much every team is going to go into the

last couple of weeks having the chances of getting into the playoffs are going down, you would assume

that there's only be a handful who can't do anything at either end. But the way it's going to work

is the team's fifth to eight in the playoffs for two places, and then play a third and four. So,

for example, last season, we wouldn't have played any more games to get through to the playoffs.

We would have potentially played a different team underneath us, because they'd have had to play

off against teams that was seventh and eighth. So it's just going to add an extra step for

those teams. And look, it's a common format in different sports around the world.

I think that the playoffs have always been controversial. You know, I can remember when they were

introduced. And first of all, there was two relegation teams playing off against the two high

teams. Obviously, we suffered from that against them. Jilling them in the seventh, isn't we? And

something different is always going to be controversial. It's always going to raise question marks.

You know, fundamentally, the three best teams should go up and the three worst teams should go

down. But football hasn't worked like that for a number of years. So I think anything that can

help the entertainment factor. And I know that I use that term loosely, but it keeps it

believe competitive. It creates an extra dimension to us. And look, you can really argue the

narrative. You know, if you finish faith or sixth, do you deserve to go up more than the team

have finished seventh or eighth? Maybe, maybe not, but there's, it's always if you finish first

and we're saying right, even though you finish first, you've got to play off against another seven

teams. That's not the way it's going to work. So I think it's obviously money motivates the AFL

want to maintain money coming in, want to maintain the TV revenue coming in,

before you want to increase the TV revenue coming in. And the TV companies will want to pay more

if they're guarantees bigger viewing figures towards the end of the season for more games. And

that's purely and simply the motivation for it. And from that perspective, it makes sense.

God, I've just checked the leg out there for the championship. And see if this was going on

this season down. So Darby would be an eighth. And all of a sudden, it's 17, which is nourished.

There's six points. So all of a sudden, say, I've been playing for something. And so in an

economy, it gives up the championship, maybe 10 or 11 or whatever. But you can understand that

because they're so tightly tightly there and congested together. All of a sudden, I've got some

to play for. If I'm facing something in this season, so I can understand why I've done it.

But yeah, I was supposed to say, well, it will be interesting. It's going to make the leg more

interesting. So for me, I think if you're watching, then I don't watch much of the championship.

Anymore, I'll catch that flight night game. It's on. But if you're a fan of the championship

and stuff, it's going to make you want to watch it a little bit more. But the thing is with this

right now, I've got a problem with this and this respect. What way do you go to next?

Yeah, as long as you've had this for five or six years. And you will write the bottom A team is

going to play off a relegation. Right? Where do you stop? I tell you where or where they'll want it

to go next, Martin. Clubs might not sign up for this, but you mentioned it earlier. There'll be

one in teams who want bottom of the Premier League, but maybe 16th or 17th in playoffs as well.

They would absolutely love a do or die Premier League team against just a half decent championship team.

They won't do that because of the ownership of the Premier League versus football league. I think

if it was still all one competition, they could do it further down the leagues, couldn't they?

Well, the couldn't. That's how the playoffs started, right? I remember lying in bed,

listening Chelsea versus Middlesbrough in about 86 or 87 when they were battling to stay up and go

down. That's how it used to be. That's how playoffs were to start with.

That's how it is in Scotland. Still do it like we in Scotland, right?

So go ahead, Andrew. I was just sorry. I was just going to say that the super league, rugby league

playoffs, they're a very different format. So again, yeah, we might see that in future things are

weighted to the teams who are finishing higher. But yeah, there's all sorts of ways in which they

could tweak things and implement things and years have hit the nail on the head. Basically,

money will be the factor as opposed to what's best in terms of competition and fairness.

I tell you what, we have the NRL national rugby league over here. And I can't get my head

rounded because I'm so used to English sport in the way that we do things in England, right?

But in the NRL, you play the full season. So however many games, the team are finishes top

win what they call the minor premiership. And then from top to eight, play off to win the major

premiership. So a team of finishes eight could actually be the champions, even though they haven't

finished top of the league. And it's just a completely different way of doing sport, but every sport

here is run like that. I suppose it's similar to the champions league in that sense, isn't it?

Because that's what happens with the champions league now. It's a league and then it splits off into

into a knockout competition, which again, as you mentioned, it's all for TV. It's to keep it

in rest and for TV and there's money in it, isn't it? It means that there's something to play for.

They can dictate when there's something to play for. And I mean, it's happening in loads of sports,

not just football. You mentioned the rugby there. Darts, the Darts Premier League, the change

the format of that. So now every night of the Darts Premier League is a tournament, which finishes

with a winner. And it's basically because it's it's to try and I guess just to generate more revenue

and make it more interesting for casual fans, but as fans of sports, it doesn't necessarily benefit

you. You know, if you're traditional like I am, I'm not dead against it, but yeah, it's one of them

where I just I wonder how where it's going to lead to. That's the that's the I'm always thinking

and where does this where does this end? This this is just the start where does this end? So yeah,

it'll be interesting to see where we go from. Yeah. Um, right to move on, but did you know we've

gotten expert in the room tonight, by the way? Because this next topic is for our resident expert.

The author of Sunderland AFC book Kit Katz. SFC Stadium of Light. Kit's story is with us. Andrew

Smiths and, um, and if anybody hasn't read that book yet, make sure you go out and get it. It's

still available. I think Andrew can get it. Get on Amazon and in other such places. But you

you being our kit expert, Andrew, I've come to you on this one because the club have done a couple

of their releases of different things. The first one was a rep rule release of some Longsdale kits

from the season. We got relegated from the Premier League with 15 points and then they followed that

up with a Sin Patrick's Day release, which I think was done in association with fanatics. So give

us your thoughts, Andrew. What do you make of all of this? Do you like them? What are you reckon?

The Longsdale one was an odd choice. I mean, I think you can, you can probably pick up the

originals for less than you can, the reproduction versions. Um, also, and this is, this is a massive

pedant alert. The goal keep the kit that they've brought out as the Longsdale release. I don't think

you could get that in short sleeves originally. So slot one of the risks for whoever did that.

But that is me being ultra picky. I just, I was surprised by that particular season being selected.

But we're in the Premier League and we need to make money. It's a sad, it's a sad fact. And I'd rather

the club tried to do it that way than by even further increases in tickets because, listen,

it's, it's a big financial contribution. If you want to get into football and some people

have a school of thought of, well, if a kid wants something and can't afford it, tough.

But if a kid wants to go to a football game and can't afford it, they don't get into football.

So at least the club are trying to keep prices realistic and trying to make them money through

retail. We always talk about how many fans we've got. Well, if we've got fans prepared to spend

money, we need to give them the opportunity. It's a downside better than in the league one days

when the club shops had no stock whatsoever. Also going back to the league one days,

had the extended playoffs been in place for the COVID season. We might have still,

still missed out on the playoffs. We were that bad after the points for game calculations.

But Sunland have brought out lots of stuff this season. There's been like a Mexican range. There's

been a art of football collaboration. There's been various retro re-releases.

Patrick was another one, wasn't it? Yeah. And the Irish one there, I think,

a couple of other fairly well-supported clubs are doing the same.

Villa. Villa did it. I saw a picture of Paul McGraw with a Villa version.

Yeah. Sorting in half with a new version.

Yeah. Yenhart done the lead version. And the other one did I say,

I kept him, maybe. Possibly. Yeah. Yeah. So there's a few clubs done it, but they are smart,

aren't they? Well, I would like the club because of their Scottish routes to do a Scottish version.

I think that would be a nice tip of the heart. This is not just because it's Carlson Andrews

here. I hadn't thought of that. Listen, you got me honest. You won't drop me on as an ex.

Bring out the kid just for you. You got me on as an expert in merchandise, apparently.

And now I'm getting the reputation trust. No, I'm at the Everton Leeds Villa. Whoever it is,

these aren't Mickey Mouse clubs. They all in the same game as us. It's sad, but we've got to make

money. Like I say, if if a Scottish range came out along the same lines, I think people would

would be bang up for that as well. Got nothing to do with the St Andrews thing. But it's

the way the way the world just talking about Yenhart. You know how I said I misread the press

release about the tickets for Port Vale? I misread that press release as well. And I thought it was

trying to suggest that Yenhart was alongside Nile Quinn in terms of smooth relationships. And I was

like, you know what? So listen, well, you know what someone finds a like the next game,

Port Vale away and then at home of Brighton. There'll be loads of people in the crowd wearing

the new gate. So good luck with them and if it helps us compete, so be it. Absolutely. And just

around us off very quickly, Martin. I probably won't have escaped your attention that it was the

northeast football right as awards this week. And we picked up a bunch of awards across across

the various teams and what have you. The first off Dan Ballard picked up player of the year,

which I think was great just because there were mags there. And they've been screaming. And in fact,

the worst screaming going on and on and on about how I think it was Tino Liverpool. I mean,

no, they wanted to win the award. But great that Dan Ballard above all else's won that award.

And actually, I think it's because it's voted on by writers, it kind of shows you how,

because people follow the story of these players, right? It's not just about who the best player

necessarily was across the region. It's more like the story of Dan Ballard, the way that he came

from basically being on the bench and being injured quite a bit to just

emerging as a hero in the playoffs and then taking a life in the Premier League right to Dr.

Water. I think it's just the story of Dan Ballard as commendable and great to see him recognise

for that. I think the same day that he's new contract was signed as well. I mean, just a great

week for him, by the way, we haven't really, we haven't even talked about that, but Ballard,

Ballard signed a new deal as well. I think it's just all these things being a great year for him.

Well, it's been a tremendous sort of, well, it's almost year, isn't it? Because if you'd said

all of that scenario at the end of April last year, you wouldn't believe it, because he'd been out

in the team. Chris Meppen and Luke O'Neill had been first choice sent to half. Ballard had struggled

a bit with injury and you know, struggled to get his place back when he was fit. LeBris obviously,

LeBris obviously fancies them all the way along because there was times when he did bring him

back into the side when he could. I remember Swansea where I think he brought him back into the

side and he left it all line on the bench on that occasion. And he trusted him in the playoff,

he chucked him into the biggest games of the season. And that was a surprise. So as I remember,

what's he doing? He's disrupted this partnership with Meppen and O'Neill. That's been so important

for us, but he knew what he was doing and I've been so impressed with the way he's took to the

Premier League. I think he's stepped up in so many levels and looking, he's maintained his fitness

which has been the biggest thing for him. And I think he's struggled with injury throughout his

sonland career up until the season, hasn't he? He's picked up bits and pieces. And you know,

same conversation that we had with Mundle earlier on. If you can get him face and keep him fit,

there's a player there, but I think Jisulfi's talked about how Dan Ballard is just the epitome of

what a sonland player should be with his character and his heart and how he plays and how he

approaches games. And he is super, he is so important to us, but he's developed so much as a

player as well. You know, you look at him bringing the ball out of the fence now and played that

pass through the Diorid Bournemouth to set up the goal. He's added so much he was game that he

wouldn't necessarily expect a player like that to do. So I think there's so much to talk for an

hour on Dan Ballard alone, couldn't we? But I just think there's a lesson there in terms of

sticking with players through injury problems. And also the fact that when players arrive at

Sundland, they are not the finished product and they can improve and develop. And especially when

you're talking about the age of players that we signed now, when the 19, 2021, there was so much

room for improvement. And you kind of say in Ballard now that the age is really hitting the straps

in terms of what he can be as a player and the touch will he keeps his fitness and maintains his

fitness because to me, he is the next full-time Sundland captain. I think he has got everything on

any of that job. And I just love watching him play football. I think he's superb. So his contract

well deserves his new contract. I think it was just one year extension wasn't it, but it ties him

down for Longeries to commit themselves to the club because there would have been, there's been

interest from elsewhere, there's been clubs watching them. And he would have been top of the shop

in this for a lot of Premier League clubs in the summer. And rewarding them with probably a wage

that is befitting as a top Premier League defender as well. That's right. So you've got that

aspect to it. And to be acknowledged as the player of the season, I think it's not only his form,

but the big moments he's contributed to that get that award. And the goal that he scored in the

playoff semi-finals against Commentary is iconic. Like that is going to be iconic forever. And

you know, for somebody to do that and then back it up with the form that he has in the Premier League,

it's absolutely and thoroughly well deserved. Indeed here. Also, when the awards at night and we had

Katie Kitchen of Son and Women and Katie Watten, Katie Kitchen won the Women's Player of the

and Katie Watten won the Women's Young Player. The deserved one as in your opinion. And again,

one in the eye of the Jordy's, isn't it? Because I'm pretty sure they went out and spent a fortune

bringing in some top names. Nobody managed to pip our losses to the to the award.

Exactly. And in Katie Watten, the young player of the year is a won't go on player and you know,

come from the what was the art I say in the time. Made a debut at 16 scores. I think it was a

second appearance. And it just comes from strength. It's been absolutely amazing for us. And

she's going to be a wonderful player watching. She's still only like 20, I think. So just a class

class player, fully deserved for her. Katie Kitchen, a little bit surprised. And I've got to be

I think maybe I'm going to start for me would have been being up there. But Kitchen's big class for

us. You know, she's a wonderful footballer. Covers every blade of grass, not every single blade of

grass. And always pops up with a goal or a free kick against her as well. So yeah, fully just,

I think fully deserved for the both. And as you said before, you know, the amount of what they've

spent and, you know, they said we're native to him professional. You know, this is going to be the

bed for the hotbed for all the young footballers in the North East to go out there. And then I've

got to have all the young North East players. So we've always been out out of always, you know,

developed young developed youth. And we're showing off now. This was within the water. Well done.

And then both. Yeah. And a nice little win ahead of the Derby, which comes up at the end of

the month as well at the stadium. My life isn't that that people can grab their tickets for that game.

I think from the the son and ticket website. I can't. The can. Yeah. And it's a very, you know,

to really, really busy month for them because, you know, obviously we've had a national break now,

but we're now going to be playing every Sunday, every Wednesday now until we play Newcastle.

We've got two re-arrange games one against forest, which was meant to be played in April. But

they've now re-arranged that because of I think it's a couple of something or other, but the

re-arrange that now for next Wednesday. So, um, so, you know, grabby tickets there as well, you know,

Eppelton, Eppelton and the lights, what's better. And then I've got, I think, Sheffield United

during the week as well at home. So, you know, three games out of four to one, obviously them to

Eppelton, the ones at the steam line against Newcastle, but yeah, grabby tickets because it's

that was a good, a good deal of watching the losses and I know Andrew gets gets himself there

sometimes as well. So, we'll probably made up as well, but yeah, really, really busy month for

them and fingers crossed, you know, they can get that win over Newcastle. We've done the double

over during and we need to beat Newcastle at one point, like so. So, yeah. Yes, good. The

losses and we will round off there. I think gentlemen, we've put a lot in there. We've went

just over now and there was me thinking there was no talk about and then obviously being for

massive gobshites. We've done plenty to talk about. As I mentioned at the top of the show coming up

over the next couple of days, we've got our preview podcasts ahead of the FA Cup

fifth round game at Port Vale tomorrow. You get to listen to me, chat to Phil Bowers from BBC Radio

Stork and then we love the match day preview dropping on the day of the game. So, loads and loads

to complete the catch up on this week. I mean, it's been a really, really busy week this week with

games coming thick and fast. We've had all the reaction to the Leeds game. We had the Q&A,

which of course dropped yesterday on this week. I've already put Martin on the spot, Andrew. So,

remind people what was on that one. Look at his face. Do you know, when I heard your quiz in

I was thinking, oh, well, at least I'm getting away with it for a week. It was Durban. Was it

Durban being sacked that we spoke about this week? Yes, it was, yeah. Because a little pink behind

the curtain, we have got next week's lined up as well. So, I do sometimes get my stories and

timelines mixed up, but yeah. And Kelvin did a really good bit about the time we beat West

Ham was at 6-0 in 77. That was, that was a good one. So, yeah, plenty, plenty to get stuck in too.

And you're going off transfer. So, Andrew, that was the highlight.

I enjoyed that. I enjoyed that one actually. I was, yeah, that was good. I was

the man who basically turned down the opportunity to be part of Sunlin's 73 Cup win in team because

he wanted to be a teacher. I wonder if he was kicking himself. But yes, make sure you catch up

with everything we've had on this week. I hope he wasn't a career's advisor in the life.

Well, plenty catch up. And as I say, loads of reaction to the lead's game, loads coming up.

We've got plenty, plenty on how we're the podcast. And of course, we've surpassed 400 episodes in

less than a year, which shows how sad we are. And we're up there. This will be our 407th.

So, yeah, if you're real sadist and you just want to listen to loads of all content,

there are like 400 episodes, you can listen to loads of interviews, loads of really good guests

from over the last year or so. Thank you very much, gentlemen. Be the pleasure as always.

I have. Thank you.

Yes, thank you to the listeners. Like I say, we'll be back tomorrow.

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