NFL DRAFT DAY 2 LIVE: Arizona Cardinals DRAFT Miami QB Carson Beck In SHOCKING Selection

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Third overall, does Monty the builder put his hard hat back on and lean back into premium positions?

Maybe a quarterback, Johnny Venerable?

Yeah, early reports suggest the Cardinals could target X Miami signal caller Carson Beck.

Well, Monty Austin Ford finally pulled the trigger on a top 100 quarterback.

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We've ever experienced unbelievable the sights, the signs out here in Santan.

I'm loving it. It's beautiful.

Yeah, I've always wanted to be on the sports book jumbo tron.

Yes, here we are.

And dream realized are some dreams going to be realized by some prospects.

Landing with the Arizona Cardinals. Is that a thing?

Yes, I hope that Monty Austin Ford can match the level and the vibes here at Santan.

Yeah, because it would be a shame if we had all this fanfare beautiful setup.

And we turned around and it was quite frankly a wedge fard of a day too.

Monty Austin Ford has done that before.

Can he rally?

He rallied yesterday.

Third overall picked Jeremiah Love despite some teams clamoring for a trade-up.

The package didn't match the value of the X now.

Notre Dame running back, who a lot of people assume Bo was the best player in the draft.

We assume ten.

You would have taken him at four.

And of course the New York Giants wanted him at five.

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Elite neighbors having a little bit of a breakdown after the Cardinals stole Jeremiah Love.

So good on Monty.

Check the box on day one.

Day two I think it's going to be a little more spicy as it relates to the,

let's just call it the variety of players that he could potentially go after.

Yeah, does he get back to what he's been known for landing in the premium positions,

continuing to just chip away at this roster and create the infrastructure that's

you know, a nice ecosystem for a quarterback to come into at a later date or you know,

develop and select in it maybe a better round.

Instead of, is he going to reach for a quarterback?

A couple of names as you mentioned Carson Beck,

Garrett Nuss Meyer, Drew Aller, Cole Payton, who came in for a top 30 visit.

All quarterbacks that I think you should keep your eye on and could certainly go

earlier than a lot of people expected.

Oh, they, they are not taking Carson Beck.

They are taking Texas A&M guard tackle.

Chase Basontis picked 34 overall.

Albert Breer had a right up earlier today on SI saying he was a target.

Yeah.

So again, the concern here is that Chase has played guard the last two years at A&M,

but he did play tackle at once upon a time.

So as a standout freshman, so I, I don't know why he kicked inside.

I don't know if the Cardinals planned to move him outside and they've seen enough from him,

but clearly they were fired up that he was available.

They made the pick right away.

Add in another versatile offensive lineman now to clear the way for Jeremiah Love.

The theory continues that they're going to leave heavily on the offensive side after hiring

an offensive minded head coach and Michael Flore.

Sure.

Man, and they take the guard out of A&M very rarely.

Do you see like you start as a guard and then you kick out the tackle.

Right.

Usually the opposite.

That's pretty rare.

Yeah, it's just another strike against the 2024 class in that third round.

I mean, you took some, it took some fire last night as far as the running back position.

Trade Benson, you know, what's his future.

Looks like it might be done.

James Conner standing up at the day is right now making the selection for the Cardinals

in his hometown of Pittsburgh.

Yeah.

And I'm sure he's excited to bring in the big hog Molly up front.

So now you've added two cards with some premium free agent dollars and now premium draft capital.

And the Cardinals offensive line look at a little bit better.

It's not to tackle everybody want it.

Right.

But, you know, people were not exactly easy with Isaiah Adams, you know, just running it back at right guard.

Now there's some competition in that room.

Yeah, I mean, I think if you watch him, watch him penetrate the second level here.

If you're watching the SPM broadcast, I mean, it's just a very physical player.

And, you know, Texas A&M's had one of the better run games the last several years in college football.

Six, five, three, fifteen.

Somebody that's going to be able to come in right away and contribute.

I think for Monty Austin Ford, you're not making this pick.

Unless you feel like he can start right away.

And most people expected him, you know, NFL.com will eventually be a plus starter.

So again, like last year, maybe we should have seen this coming.

Yeah.

They use every pick, but want to throw away six rounder on defense.

There's so much expectation now that's going to come with that 2025 draft class with Walter,

Will, Jordan Birch, Cody Simon, Denzel Burke, right?

I think now they're they're flipping it.

And Briar also said something interesting in his article this morning

that Michael Floor has a lot of influence right now.

Yeah.

And I think you can see that.

I mean, so former freshman, all American SEC, all freshman team started, you know,

consistently a right tackle and kicked inside.

Played 13 games last year versus a tile.

I it's disappointing when you look back at 2024,

but I guess they're thinking we got to look ahead.

When you look at all these teams that have found success recently in the consistent success,

especially by building the offensive trenches,

you can't really disagree with that team building mentality, right?

I mean, we saw Detroit where you thought Detroit was one of the more,

you know, offensive line rich teams.

And then in a season's time, they're depleted.

And then the next thing you know, they're utilizing a right tackle or a big pick on a right tackle

and Blake Miller last night.

And it's just a constant thing where you have to add it.

It's like starting pitching or pitching in baseball.

It's like you could never have enough.

So they go with Byzantis.

You're right.

They show the floor in the war room.

He's fired up.

He is fired up.

I mean, you know, what the previous coaching staff,

Ganon, and of course, Drew Petsing, you know,

loves, it could be completely different with what, you know,

Michael Floor is looking for from his guard.

And it's, you know, the fortunate, you know,

person that that struggles here is going to be Isaiah Adam.

Yeah, you wonder if there was feedback from Justin Frye

to Michael Floor this off season.

Like, yeah, like Isaiah, we just can't count on.

I'm not consistent enough, right?

And you know, he was at top 100 pick,

but he was the back half of the third round.

You know, you signed the big ticket garden free agency, Isaac.

You've got Yelda Frodo.

You got Paris Johnson Jr.

I mean, now you at least have capable bodies on the interior.

This does not solve your right.

Yeah, this is not solve your right tackle problem.

But you think about, yeah, this kid with Adams gains, right?

Yeah.

I mean, you're okay there.

I think, again, I, you know, I felt this, yeah,

and I felt this way before this pick,

but the national media, the consensus

that the Cardinal's offensive line was like poverty.

Right.

I just, I think you're not really paying attention.

Like, do they need an upgraded right tackle eventually?

Yes, is that the way the board has fallen?

No, I think the biggest criticism you could lay on Austin Ford,

just like you have $40 million left,

you could have gotten bought one this off season.

But no, I mean, they've gotten better on the offensive side

with their first two picks.

There's no doubt about Isaac Seymalo.

He was the big ticket free agent you had.

And now Besantis, I mean, you beefed up that interior

of the offensive line.

Yeah, it's you, you've got one glaring hole.

You've got options everywhere else.

Like this, this idea that they're a turn style up there.

It better be different.

Yeah, you know, and this was a team that didn't have

a hundred yard rusher, they've changed that ability

with their first two picks in this draft.

They brought in the most dynamic back in this draft by a lot.

And now they took, you know, probably as far as the biggest

road grading guard or guard three in this draft.

It's helping identify a need and fill avoid.

A lot of people hoping that the Cardinals would have considered

Pregnon at 34, the standout guards for Oregon.

I can tell you the biggest difference that I see.

Pregnon's 24 chase is 21.

So three are different.

And so you're thinking about, you know, potentially second

contracts.

If you get to that point, the second contract for Pregnon

is going to be probably in his early 30s.

Potentially 29, 30, 31.

So I think this is a long term play with an opportunity

contribute this year.

Here's the good news is he was a consensus top five

to seven guy available.

Yeah, it's, you know, it's not what I would have done.

I would have gone with McDonald.

But how about this a staff from our guy saw 766 snaps,

zero sacks allowed by Bassantis.

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Jeremiah Love the Arizona Cardinals pivot to the interior.

They're offensive line chase.

Bassantis out of Texas.

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Yeah, I really like the player, guys.

I think when you're looking at Chase Passantis,

one of the reasons why I was such a big fan is that this is a guy that's got

A traits, right?

He's really athletic, natural balance.

He's never on the ground.

He's really quick out of his stance.

He's natural as a polar.

I think he's a great fit for this micro-floor scheme.

Natural anchor strength.

Rarely moved backwards.

As long as his technique is strong, he's got a really stout anchor.

And then the natural power is there as well.

So you can generate his own movement.

So you know, you heard me talk about this with like,

Walter Nolan, right?

Last year where it's like, all right,

you're quick, you're athletic, you're explosive,

you're strong, you're powerful, you're tough.

It's like, okay, there's a lot of path to success on any given play.

You can win in a lot of different ways.

To me, that's one of the things that I liked most about chase the

scientists.

He played a couple of different positions over the course of his time

at Texas A&M across a couple of different coaching staffs.

I think that this is a really nice pick here

at the top of the second round for Montiossan for it.

I had heard a lot of buzz that he would end up going

early in the start or late in the first round.

So getting him at the top of the second,

I think it's really good value.

I like the player.

Do you feel like this is our assumption as well as a lot of people clamoring for

Pregnon, the interior offensive lineman,

hell of a player out of Oregon.

He's three years older.

Besanthus is 21.

Pregnon is already 24.

Was he your best available offensive lineman to start today?

Yeah, he was definitely up there.

And I personally had a higher grade on Besanthus than Pregnon.

And I'll say he's a better skink fit as well.

You know, I think when you talk about like the lateral ability

to be able to make plays on those perimeter blocks and backside cutoffs,

like I think Besanthus can do that at a little bit of a higher rate.

They're just different types of players, right?

So it's, you know, whatever flavor of ice cream you're looking for.

Pregnon is more of your, your brawler in a phone booth,

like straight ahead vertical displacement.

I think at the end of the day, you know,

when you get a guy like Besanthus, you know,

you want to be able to leverage his athleticism.

And I'll give you this other nugget, guys.

And this occurred to me as I was jumping on with you.

I think there's a, there's a link here with Justin Fry,

the cardinal's offensive line coach,

because Chase Besanthus was recruited to the Texas A&M

and was coached his first couple of years by Steve Adazio,

former head coach at Colorado State and in Boston College.

That was Justin Fry's mentor at the University of Florida.

They worked together at Temple.

And so I think that there's some deep roots there.

I'm sure that those two have talked about getting,

getting him up to speed once he arrives in the NFL.

So this is something that could have potentially been brewing last year, right?

I mean, we've been talking about third round and pick from 2024 Isaiah Adams.

I think that the cardinals had high expectations

that he could be starting in caliber guard in this league.

What do you think that this means?

Is this just bad news for Adams?

And it may be the runway that he had in place

and then the cardinals will quickly pivot to a guy like Besanthus?

Yeah, I think that at the end of the day,

especially with a new system, a new coaching staff coming in,

you got to do what's best for, yeah, at the end of the day,

like they bring in Sayamolo, so you feel good about that one spot.

You know, you want to try and get your best five out there.

And so if, especially since you had some carry over

along the offensive line coach with Fry,

I don't, I can't, I'm sure that he sealed it signed off on this and said,

yeah, let's, let's move off of Adams and let's go with Besanthus here.

All right, let's talk about it.

The cardinals could not get Tyson's in yesterday.

You want to talk about Besanthus, hold on.

You have another Besanthus?

Yeah, yeah. How much, how many Besanthus questions do you have?

They only made the pick just minutes ago.

Wow, let's get his gram on the phone.

Let's get his penpal on the phone.

We should frame one of the first questions that was asked

the Besanthus at the facility just a few moments ago,

because of the glaring need that they had at right tackle,

was they, there, there is a perceived a little bit of versatility.

And he said, you know, the, it wasn't difficult for him to move inside.

And that's primarily the direction you go.

Very rarely do you see a guy go from the collegiate level to the pro level

and go kick from inside to outside.

Is there any chance he could become a tackle at the next level?

Yeah, he's got sub 32 inch arms from the combine.

Yeah, I know, all the combine arm lengths

were were have been down the last couple of years.

So even if you say, all right, maybe you get,

you give him a three quarters of an inch and he's just over 32.

I think that's preventative.

I can't imagine that he's going to be a college or an NFL offensive tackle.

I think this is a guard only, you're probably playing,

you got the ability to line up on either.

But to me, most of his snaps have come on the right side.

To me, this is a, this is a guy I think you're sticking on the interior.

One last one, is that okay?

I'll allow it.

You're your perception right now of the Arizona Cardinals offensive line going into 2026

and how it's going to benefit from the additions and free agency.

Now, this selection and of course, Jeremiah Love,

Tottenborough in the backfield.

Yeah, I would say, and I misspoke.

I said besantis, most of it has been on the right side,

mostly on the left side actually.

So I would say it's, you go Paris, Besantis, Yelda,

say Malu, I guess right now we're sticking with,

we're sticking with Elijah Wilkinson, right?

Yeah.

I mean, I guess that's the answer at the moment.

And so, and you'll see, I mean, look, there's vets out there

that if you want to try and see if you can bring somebody else in.

But my guess is if they, if they were going to do that,

they would have done it already, right?

And just to kind of cover your basis.

And so, yeah, I would think that that's the five right now

as we go into, as we go to camp.

All right, all that's an offensive line question.

Caleb Turnin, where do you project the Northwestern tackle?

Would that be good value at 65 for Arizona?

I think it'd be really good value.

And now that he's another one where, like, you have to be okay with the lack of length.

I think he could play tackle though.

He's a guy that I'm okay with, like, let's see if he,

let's see if he fails a tackle before we force him to kick inside.

And it's possible that he does have to kick inside at the end of the day.

But he is a player.

Let me just double check the, yeah, he played right tackle back in 2022

before moving over to the left side for the last couple of seasons.

But he has battle tested 43 career starts.

And he was put through the ringer in the big 10,

you know, going against a lot of their top pass rushers.

And honestly, I've watched him against a couple of them.

I thought he fared well.

So I'm okay sticking him out there.

If he ends up being on the board for Arizona and they take him,

that's a nice competition there for Wilkinson.

I wouldn't rule out the rookie winning that job.

There was a lot of speculation that they could be a quarterback team here on day two.

Do you see any worthy of a selection?

As we talk about 65, I mean, where does that conversation start?

Does it start with Beck?

Does it start with Nussmeyer?

What are your opinions on that?

Yeah, I mean, I'm a Nussmeyer guy.

I had nearly identical grades on Nussmeyer and Ty Simpson.

And I had both of them as potential starters in the NFL.

And so to me, it's like the Ty Simpson question, right?

Where you guys ask me like, how early is too early?

I feel the same way about Nussmeyer.

And it depends on their evaluation.

If they think that Nussmeyer is close to Simpson,

you're taking it with your next pick.

But honestly, if you felt that way,

you probably would have just taken him over the census, right?

And so I think that it's probably more likely

that it ends up being one of these later selections.

Unless Matty just has a really good feel for the board and says,

yeah, we just don't think anybody's going to move up and take him.

My gut would tell me that it's Nussmeyer followed by Beck,

but there's been some late buzz.

I know like Jeremy Fowler put out a report that,

you know, that Cardiff Beck could go earlier than expected,

but yeah, well, we'll see on the form of Miami quarterback.

Yeah, I think Albert Breer said that he expected a lot of quarterbacks

still be available tomorrow.

I just don't think the Cardinals can wait that long.

I know they have the first pick on the fourth round,

but there's something to be said about having a top 100 quarterback.

I just feel like we get to tomorrow.

It helps you sleep at night.

It does.

We get to tomorrow.

Everything feels like a lottery ticket.

Maybe they are, but like,

who do you think is the best scheme fit of the remaining guys for Mike Laflore?

We thought it was Ty Simpson.

I think it would have been,

but are the remaining guys?

Who do you like for this offense?

Honestly, I think Nussmeyer and Simpson are cut from the same cloth.

Like, I think they are very similar in terms of like play style and archetype of quarterbacks.

You know, a lot of the reasons why I liked Simpson's fit in this offense,

I would say a lot of the same things about Nussmeyer.

And so to me, if you get him in the third round,

I think that that's fine.

And so I would say that looking at that,

that would be the guy that stands out as someone that would fit in the offense.

But the other thing that's interesting too,

the pro market,

there's some options out there.

Like, I'm here in Philadelphia.

Like, Tanner McKee is a name I would keep an eye on to potentially move.

So, and that would open up the Eagles to potentially draft a quarterback tomorrow as well.

To kind of keep that that factory turning.

They traded for Andy Dalton.

Dalton could be your number two while they tried to groom the rookie to take over for that job in 2027.

And so, Tanner McKee going into a contract year, I think that's a name.

I know our buddies out at CHGO are hoping that they're going to get a high pick for Tyson Vagin.

I don't think they'll get as high a pick as as what the Eagles would get for McKee.

But I know there are other names out there as well that are floating in the on the pro market.

Anthony Richardson, of course, it's well known.

He's requested a trade.

Same age as Carson Beck.

Got 26-year-old Will Levis.

I mean, they just added another quarterback to that room a couple weeks ago.

That seems inevitable.

So, some interesting pro quarterbacks and some interesting quarterbacks in this class.

We didn't get your, we thought we were going to talk to you afterwards.

The Jeremiah Love thing.

But the Thai Simpson, it was a tragedy for my co-host over here.

What was your thought?

We thought it's on him going 13th overall.

And also, what would you think about Sean McVeigh's body language there in the press conference?

Part of me, and I have to watch the full press conference back.

You guys know, I watch the table.

I usually take like a half a day, maybe sometimes maybe a little bit more for each team

after the draft, and I'm going to watch all the press conferences down, all the inside access,

read all the pieces, all that stuff.

So, I've seen a couple clips.

I think that there might have been some acting there from McVeigh,

where it's like, you know, I want to make sure we're keeping,

I want to go, I want Matthew Stafford to know, like, I'm on his side,

but that's right.

I agree, I agree, I agree, I agree.

Well, less need is the enemy here.

I don't like this pick.

I wanted him to take Makai Lemon, you know, whatever.

My guess is, is let less need didn't go out in the limb and do this against Sean McVeigh's wishes.

But yeah, as far as 13, look, there was, there was all going to be wide receiver,

wide receiver, wide receiver, all through the spring.

And then it was this week when people back over, like,

oh, not so fast.

Like, maybe they'll go somewhere else.

Credit to Todd McShay from the ringer was really the only sharp mock draft

that kind of had them taken Simpson at 13.

And so, you know, I think that that certainly was one of the big shockers from last night.

He's the best in the business.

All City NFL analyst, Fran Duffy, we're going to check him with you.

After pick 65, hopefully we get some additional juice, right?

Cardinals go offensive lineman.

What is the third round that hold for this franchise?

Fran, my guy, stay in touch. We'll talk to you soon.

Talk soon, guys.

Is it happening?

I'm going to let everybody else experience this.

Well, I mean, it feels like that you spoiled it.

I haven't spoiled anything.

You just said, oh, my God.

I haven't spoiled anything.

Could be anything.

Could be anything.

So you know the Cardinals pick.

They're going to stick and pick and take it 65.

Is that what you, is that the Arizona Cardinals at pick 65 are drafting.

University of Miami quarterback Carson Beck.

Carson Beck joins the Arizona Cardinals quarterback room.

Their first top 100 quarterback selected since Kyler Murray.

When first overall in 2019, Carson Beck,

collegiate national champion runner up has been a staple in college football over the course of last three years.

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30 plus touchdowns this last year.

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and joins a quarterback room that currently does not have a quarterback one.

It does not.

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They did not have any candidates as far as

QBs of the future.

Let's have a little juice.

I would believe Beck qualifies to that.

I feel like you rehearsed that by the way.

That would be very well done.

You were well versed in Carson Beck.

Definitely didn't do that in the mirror earlier.

His rise to the desert here.

He comes via, of course, the U from Athens, Georgia.

Before that, where he had a lot of starts with the Georgia Bulldog.

So yeah, it's going to be interesting.

I mean, if we were talking about who profile is the best as far as the floor is new system.

Six foot five, he can certainly see over and stand in the pocket and deliver the football.

They bring in Carson Beck.

So they had a top 30.

They got to feel comfortable with the prospect of person Carson Beck

to come in here and continue to do what he's done and every stop along the way.

And that's just kind of operate a system and be a good processor.

Somebody was trying to tell me he was an elite processor.

I think when you throw as many interceptions as he did,

the back end of his career, you could debate that.

But look, they're going to take a shot.

And the Cardinals, this is kind of the first sign of them

looking to try to find a future at the position

that they weren't a good spot post-Kyler Murray.

Get in new blood.

I don't want to say take out the trash.

That's disrespectful.

I just want to add new bodies to this group.

I still expect Jacobi percent to start.

They'll probably give him a little bit of paybomb.

But I do think Carson Beck's going to come in here and have an opportunity to compete.

This is a 65th overall pick.

They're going to have an opportunity.

He's played a ton of college football for the people

that were in my DMs and my mentions over the course of the last two months.

Talking about Tyson Simpson.

Keep that same energy because everything that you disliked about Tyson Simpson,

you like about Carson Beck.

Starts, experience, size.

Now, he might have a ceiling and we might have seen a ceiling.

He might come in and just be a career backup.

Yeah.

But at the end of the day, it's like,

if you like 6-4, if you like experience,

if you like big games in college football,

how many big games do you play for Georgia?

Miami and route to the national championship.

Trying to out-deal dual Fernando Mendoza.

Here's what you should feel good about.

This is exactly where he was supposed to go.

Roughly in the third round, Cardinals clearly had an idea

that nobody else was going to take him in the second round.

It felt like they didn't have to move up.

They've added a running back, a guard, and a potential.

I mean, it's interesting.

Is this a potential starting quarterback,

depending on what you see?

I think we're going to know a lot.

Come OTA's and training camp.

I think he's got a long road to beat now.

Either Jacobi Berset or Gardner Menshu.

Yeah, it makes the room.

It adds a level of interest that wasn't there before.

Juice, we have juice now.

It's a moderate amount of juice, moderate.

Quit being disrespectful.

I'm not being disrespectful.

I said that which prospect on the board fits the floor?

Best Beck.

Who would be QB3 in this draft?

I said Beck.

And as far as where he was ranked

by Daniel Jeremiah, Fran Duffy,

all the drafts analysts and insiders out there.

This is right kind of in his range.

This is a little bit easier to digest

than taking him 34th overall.

And would you have rather taken him in the fourth round?

Absolutely.

Then he adds even more value.

Yeah, but given where Ty Simpson went,

where teams often reach at this position,

this is probably the first checkpoint

where you can talk yourself into it.

Here's the only thing I dislike about him

is that you can't say that.

There's got to be more than just one thing.

People are like running with this narrative.

He's 25.

I think he's only 23.

He's going to be 24 in November.

That's fine.

Whatever.

How many games Carson Beck start for this team?

Over under.

This season?

Yeah.

I don't think he starts to see what you guys are nuts.

What?

You'd have to have injuries.

And oh, you have to have injuries.

If you are so wrong, you are so wrong.

I'm saying over under eight and a half.

I think I'm over under half this half of the season.

You are.

That is.

If this team, I'm telling you right now,

it's not terrible.

It's terrible.

If this team struggles,

you think they're going to go from Jacoby Reset to Mint you?

Yes, especially when you're saying eight games,

I think we're going to get to.

They have to be O and A.

Asheville.

Help me out here.

They'd have to be already.

They're going to be bad.

Yes, we'll say in 10.

You guys are crazy.

I think it's one thing for you guys to be hungry

for some sort of something at the quarterback position,

but to just just be out of control with these type of these

estimations and saying that Carson Beck's going to start eight

to 10 games.

I didn't say 10.

I said over under eight and a half.

I would put it right around eight games.

There's it's a 17 game season.

If Jacoby Reset is like one in six, one in seven,

they're not going to go to Mint you.

They're going to be before Johnny.

Before Johnny punishes you more with more hyperbole,

I want to have a more realistic conversation about this.

No, you're the worst because where it becomes interesting is not only do you get to go out

to Cardinals training camp for free at State Farm Stadium.

You get to watch Jeremiah Love,

get his first reps as an Arizona Cardinal,

but now you get to see just a younger rookie quarterback go in there and see what he looks like.

I'm not about to start to give this guy starts in the league in 2026.

I think he's far from doing that.

No, he'll start giving this.

Does he have is he a quarterback in this class at the very least

that has a floor as a prospect that could come in here and see time

and not completely like make a fool of himself.

Absolutely, but I'm not about to just hand over the keys to the office.

When I'm handing over anything this offense,

even with the addition of Jeremiah Love, it's volatile.

You can't go in there and just give the keys to Carson Beck

because then that could also be counterproductive

to getting to where you want to go with Marvin Harrison Jr.

and continuing Michael Wilson and Trades as set.

He's going to have to prove himself.

He's going to have to look good in training camp.

But I think you're nuts, both of you,

all of you here that are anti-Carson Beck and want him to fail.

We're not, we're not.

It's basically you basically said I want him to fail.

I don't want him to do well.

You're out of control.

I'm not.

All I'm saying is when you have a general,

when you have a saw wants to jump up here.

So when you have a general manager who's 15 and 36

and he pushes his chips with the Jacobi percent one and 11 basket

and it's Halloween and you're one and seven.

They're not going to Gardner Mentschew.

They would go to Carson.

I believe they would go to Carson Beck before Gardner Mentschew.

Given the state of this thing.

I don't think so.

Okay.

That's fun.

So Carson Beck becomes the highest selected quarterback

since Kyler Murray.

Yes, sir.

In 2019, basically the same player.

It's 65th overall.

Nick Sabin apparently saying a lot of nice things

about Carson back on the broadcast.

35 touchdown passes against the Blitz.

I mean, like you even have to admit,

all of your concerns about Ty Simpson, he's on the other side.

He's not bringing in Ty Simpson in this.

I am.

Well, no, but it's relevant given the fact

that we've spent two months breaking down Ty.

And I heard about size and I heard about injury concerns.

And I heard about starts and experience.

Well, you get all that now.

But now you think this guy's a bum.

Let him go compete.

I didn't say he's the bomb.

You're sitting and you're thrusting him into the starting lineup.

You're pick 65.

He's going to play.

You think he's not going to play?

He's going to play.

Pick 60.

When this team is under 500 and they're

turning the corner of their season,

they're going to put him out there.

Quinn yours was a six-rounder, seven-throunder.

He started games last year.

They pulled to a in December.

He started games for them.

OK, well, 65.

Pick 65.

He'd have to be terrible, awful for them not to play him.

They're going to want to say, well,

we know what Gardner meant you isn't, isn't.

If Jacoby Brissette's struggling,

I want Jacoby Brissette to win every game.

They're going to go to Carson.

They're going to say, Carson, get out there, see what you can do

so we can evaluate you before 2027.

Jared Sweetwater in the chat saying,

plenty of reps for Beck should Brissette continue

as holdout for Ian Rappaport, as far as the Cardinals do.

And we're going to bring in right now for the second time

tonight.

The All-City Draft Analyst, Fran Duffey,

and Fran, your first initial thoughts on Carson Beck,

being the first pick of the third round going

in the Arizona Cardinals.

Yeah, I mean, look, we talked about the possibility

of a quarterback here, and whether it was Nuss Meyer

or Carson Beck.

And to me, I think I'm perfectly fine

with taking that shot here at this point in the draft.

I think this is a guy that has starting potential in the NFL.

One of the comps I have written down for him

is Jimmy Garoppolo, a player that, like before,

has experience with.

I think when you look at Carson Beck,

it's as much for me as, like, my expectations

of what his tier of player could be as well,

where potential low end starter, maybe more than that.

But to me, like, I saw more likely, like, high end back up,

which, by the way, like, I'm perfectly fine

with taking that player in the third round.

A guy that has starting potential

at the most important position in sports,

I think you take that swing if you feel the same way.

And we know that they have familiarity

with them on the coaching staff.

I really liked his touch.

He's got command of the offense from a free snap standpoint.

I like what Carson Beck is able to bring to the table.

Now, has it all been sunshine and rainbows?

No, I mean, look, he had a terrible bout with turnovers,

especially that final year at Georgia

in some of their biggest games.

Something that he'll a lot of throws and plays

that he would like to have back.

But at the end of the day, I do think that he has potential

and he's got staying power in the NFL.

As we break this news with Fran Duffy,

Draler is a Pittsburgh stealer.

He goes pick 76.

So Draler and Carson Beck off the board.

Steelers have Will Howard.

They have potentially Aaron Rodgers.

We'll see.

Let's look at the Cardinals quarterback room.

You got your COVID preset.

You got Cardinal Menchu.

You have Carson Beck.

I think Fran, you tell me if I'm wrong,

both things are incorrect.

Use a pick at 65.

Top 100 pick.

First quarterback taken by Monty in the first three rounds.

GM in the fourth year of his regime.

How many games do you think that they are going

to have Carson Beck start this year in a perfect world,

given the fact that Jacobi Perset is 2 and 15

in his last 17 games started?

Yeah, I think that he's going to have the opportunity

for reps, right?

And you know, it's a veteran laden room

when you've got the two guys that have been around the block

multiple times over with Menchu and with Perset.

But I do think that Peck, to me, he is that tier of player.

Like that's kind of how I project him

is at that level of player.

And you're hoping that he could be more than that.

And that's why you're paying this price,

is that you're hoping to see.

Let's just see if he can be more than that.

And I think it's definitely within the range of outcomes

that that happens.

I would expect that he's going to start a handful of games

for the Cardinals.

My guess is it's probably later rather than sooner.

But I would think, as long as he takes care of business

on his end, he's going to have that opportunity.

What's the best part of his skill set that gives him a chance

here at this next level?

What do you look at back and you say,

hey, this translates to this to the NFL level the best?

I would say as a pure thrower, it's his touch.

He showed really good touch to all three levels of the field.

And then I would say in terms of quarterback

and decision making, the willingness

to make some tight window throws.

He's not afraid of throwing interceptions.

And I like that aspect of his game.

I talked about it.

He's got some, they were like, all right, can't make that play.

But I'm fine with a guy that's willing to test

in his tight windows, because the NFL is full of tight window

throws.

And that's where it separates, the goods from the grades,

the solids from the goods, the bads from the good,

the solids, the fact that you're willing to make those types

of throws, to me, that's a good sign.

And so to me, that's one of the things

I like most about his game, especially in breakers

over the middle of the field, which that's

a big part of this offense that we think Michael Flour

is going to be installing here in Arizona.

I mean, you look at Jacoby Presets currently holding out,

Fran, we're seeing a lot of movement with veteran players.

Is there a possibility that the Arizona Cardinals move off?

Jacoby Presets, flip him to another team.

Enroll with Menshu and Carson Beck.

I just have a hard time believing why

do you need, as you said, three quarterbacks all

on the same level, where I just don't understand the benefit

of having Beck be quarterback three after being picked 65th

overall.

Is there any kind of logic with that?

Could you potentially see them moving off one of these

quarterbacks in an effort to get back more reps in exposure?

I think that one of the things that I've seen multiple teams

do this over the years.

When you want to bring in a young quarterback,

you want to surround him with as many influential voices

as possible.

So whether that's veteran quarterbacks in the room,

former quarterbacks that are on your coaching staff,

obviously a season quarterback coach, season offense

coordinator, you start getting into those roles

on the coaching staff.

Guys that can come in and have that level of impact

on the player, both on and off the field,

that's only going to help them.

And so honestly, if they feel like it's too far gone

with Jacobi or they're not going to be able to kind of mend

fences there, then you make the deal.

You make some kind of deal with somebody

for a day three selection tomorrow.

But honestly, if you feel like Carson Beck could be the guy

and you feel like, hey, this is something that we want

to try and see through, then I think

it would make sense to try and keep Jacobi there

because you might be able to get something out of him

in terms of the information that he might be

to give to Carson Beck and to try and groom him

to be that next player, that next starting quarterback

for the Arizona Cardinals.

What's the most important thing that he's going to have

to show Michael Floor, this coaching staff

when rookie Manning Camp starts through training camp

to the preseason to give himself the best shot

to up his stock?

You know, I think the big thing is just showing

like the command and confidence.

Like the moment's not too big for you.

We've all seen the young quarterbacks

and young, honestly, like at every position

where it's just too big, right?

They're not going to be able to really kind of shoulder

that load and it's not any more important anywhere else

other than get a quarterback where, you know,

there's so much is put on you both on and off the field

mentally and physically.

So to me, as long as he's putting in all the work

and he shows that he's ready to go from that standpoint

mentally, they'll let him go out there and say,

like, all right, like, make your mistakes here.

You're not going to be perfect, but go out and prove yourself

and then let's see if you've got some staying power

in this offense.

Do you feel like now, no smire is poised to go off the board

before the end of the third round?

I know you were a big fan.

He's still top 32 on your big board.

Are you surprised?

He's fallen behind both Aller and Carson

back here in the third round.

Yeah, I mean, I'm assuming that the medical,

and it's not necessarily the issue that caused him

to miss time this year because that was more like,

oh, glee can core muscle stuff.

There was a lot of, there was not even like whispers

because Brian Kelly talked about it publicly

with his knee and the long term nature of that knee injury.

And you're still talking about like a small sample size

on top of that as a starter.

So not completely surprised that we're here at the end

of round three or towards the end of round three

and he hasn't gone off the board yet.

We'll see how much longer the slide lasts,

but yeah, I would say that this was definitely something

that was within the realm of possibility coming into today.

The Arizona Cardinals went, Jeremiah loved third overall,

Chase Basantis, the guard of the Texas A&M

at the 34th pick and now Carson back to open up the third round.

They've got the rest of their picks remaining

in the fourth, the fifth, the sixth, in the seventh round.

What box would you like to see them kind of check here

with the remaining picks here in the 2026 draft?

Yeah, I want to continue to see them adding pieces

along the offensive side, you know.

So for me, like whether that means more pass catchers,

more offensive linemen, you want to add some more depth

to the tight end room.

Like to me, whether it's Carson Beck

or if it's a player to be named later in the 2027 draft,

you want to continue to build up that ecosystem

and that support system for that quarterback.

And so I want to continue to keep adding pieces.

We've talked about it all off season that, you know,

they've put so much into the defense

in terms of draft assets over the last couple of years.

It's time to start, you know,

getting some reinforcements in on offense.

Real quick, because we got you here.

Philadelphia gets Jonathan Grinard for two thirds.

You happy with that deal?

Feels like a pretty good deal for how we roseman.

Yeah, I mean, they gave him a big contract too.

Four years, 100 million deal.

Only the first two years are guaranteed.

But at the end of the day, like it's a pretty big price

to pay for it, but he's still at the end of the day.

It's a good player.

And so, you know, I would say that I'm not like over the moon

on it, you know, if I were like greeting process,

but not a bad move by any stretch.

He becomes their most reliable pass rusher right now.

There was whispers about like, you know, this Josh Sweat

went out of Arizona.

I would say that that's probably out of the question now

for Philly.

But yeah, Grinard's a good player.

And we'll see what the impact is overall

in this big fan geodefense.

If you were the GM in the warm room,

making the big 65th overalls,

we've talked about Beck here a lot.

Was there anybody else that you would have considered there

in that spot, given who was on the board?

I think that to me, if you want to pull up exactly

who was on the board there, I mean,

like I said, I think anytime you have a quarterback

that's kind of pegged is like that, you know,

as that guy, that supersedes everything else.

So if that was the evaluation they had on Beck,

I think that I'm perfectly fine with taking the swing there.

But Beck notwithstanding, you know, there's no one else

that like kind of stands out and like, oh man,

like they definitely should have added, you know,

Sam Roush to the tight end room, you know,

a behind-traimic ride.

I think I'm looking at the rest of this group.

And I'm like, okay, like, you know,

the alkyfield maybe gives you a little something

that you don't have and why receiver

that went 74th overall, it's the New York Giants.

Just kind of a big body, dirty work player,

can go up and win, back shoulders,

was used as kind of a downfield vertical threat as well.

No, I'm honestly, to me, like the Carson Beck pick,

that makes sense with where they took him at 65.

Fran, we appreciate you, my guy.

We'll check back in with you,

assuming the Cardinals don't make any more moves tonight.

Tomorrow's the Cardinals have four through seven

in the upcoming rounds on day three.

We appreciate you, check his workout.

Go phnx.com, it's all city.

NFL Draft insider, Fran Duffy.

Fran, thank you so much, my guy.

Appreciate it guys, talk soon.

But let's reset here and kind of revisit the day two

that was for the Arizona Cardinals.

Did they accomplish what you wanted them to do?

Did they come up short going into day three, potentially?

They started it, but by sticking and picking

at 34th overall, after the 49ers

took the Ole Miss wide receiver.

Reach, the Cardinals go and they wanted to further

solidify their offensive line and take chase

Bessonthus, the guard out of Texas A&M

that got high scores.

I think in his, after he was picked by the Cardinals

and we heard from Fran Duffy, we had him as OG three.

We heard from Robert Griffin III who played

in a similar offense, put the under Kyle Shanahan

and liked the fit as far as the run and blocking

in the scheme.

So Bessonthus comes over and the Cardinals,

you've got some competition there for Isaiah Adams.

I think he probably, it could be the odd man adder

or a backup at this point, but then they sit

throughout the rest of the second round

and then they finally make the pick for the quarterback

which you firmly expected to happen today.

I thought it was gonna be at some point during this draft

and they take Carson Beck.

Three picks, three offensive players for Michael Floor.

Did exactly what he needed to do.

I put it on Twitter, people are racially in the tweet

into oblivion, people are upset.

I just feel like if you're coming at this from a standpoint

of like defense, guys they spent premium resources

last several years on top shelf defenders in the draft.

And a lot of them have been injured

and a lot of them have been under coach

and I would say overwhelmingly outside of Marv

on offense, they viewed as that defense

for whatever reason not responding to JG

and those position coaches last year.

Now Nick Riles is still here, but they brought in Torello

and they brought in the defensive coordinator

from Texas to coach their defensive line.

They spent premium resources on defense last year,

they feel like this draft needs to be on offense.

Now, would you like a little bit of both?

I think you could balance that better

if your money moving forward, but they came into this draft,

they took the best overall player, third overall,

who just happens to play running back.

They are desperate for a young infusion

on their offensive line, wasn't it tackle worthy of 34

so they did the next best thing they said,

sorry I say I am, you're fine, we're gonna upgrade on you

and we feel like this kid could be a pro bowl caliber guard

and then they took a quarterback

that a lot of people thought we're probably going

the second round after a report from Tom Pellissaro

two days ago, they get him 65th overall.

Like I, we talked about it in nauseam,

you especially emphasize this point.

This draft was going to be polarizing

and you weren't going to be able please everybody.

Monty Austin forward the last couple of years

for the most part has a drafts nationally

with the media and has aced it with cardinal fans

and they've been diminishing returns, solid, good,

right, it depends on the time of day, the injury, whatever.

But like last year, Walter Nolan will Johnson,

you weren't going to top that in terms of fan perspective.

They're banking on, Jeremiah Love being one

of the best running backs in the NFL this year

that this kid can come in here,

chase the guard from A&M and be a consistent presence

on the right side of their offensive line

which has been a sieve and they're thinking to themselves

can we find a developmental quarterback

at the beginning of the third round

that eventually we can mold into a starter.

That's what they're trying to do.

And again, if you're skeptical of this I would say

then you're skeptical of Michael and Floor in his vision.

And that's okay, you can disagree with that.

But like, you brought in Michael Floor to do this,

to tell Monty, this is what I need.

And he said, okay, I'm going to bring in Nathaniel Hackett

who's been in this league for 20 years.

He's been a head coach in an OC and Nathaniel Hackett's

like we can win with Carson Beck.

And Michael Floor says we can win with Carson Beck.

That's why they drafted him.

They did not draft him as a project.

They drafted him to see if he can be

the future quarterback of this team.

So I prepare yourself for that.

Again, it's not what people wanted, I get that.

There were plenty of people who did not want tie Simpson.

So I can only imagine the outrage for Carson Beck.

But like, well, I'm trying to cut through the BS

and tell you like this is what I believe their mindset is.

Yeah, don't lose too much sleep over the 65th overall pick.

I mean, when you have a roster that was extremely limited

in 2023 and 2024, they've built up to where they should be able

to take a chance as far as, you know, take it as weighing,

especially at the quarterback position.

That's a perfectly fine place to do it.

37 and 6 in college as a starting quarterback.

I'm sure that, 37 and 6, 37 and 6 as a starter.

So close to 50 starts and some big games.

It's a lot of starts.

Most of it in the SEC and then also a lot of those

in the college football playoff.

So a lot of high leverage situations for Carson Beck.

We did hear from Michael Floor.

We heard from Monty Austin for it.

No, are we ready with any of those?

Let's rip them all all once here.

OK.

Well, we only have one.

OK, let's rip the one.

Yeah, I think, you know, we spent a lot of time with Carson.

You know, we met with him at the con line.

Brought him in on a 30 visit.

You know, there was no shortage of tape to evaluate on Carson.

Carson's played a lot of ball.

And so, you know, banked a lot of reps.

You know, I think really Carson played

in a lot of big game environments.

Played in a lot of intense environments in the SEC,

those stadiums, those loud screaming, wild rabbit fans,

the SEC.

And then, you know, the highest stage

that he could play on in the national championship

this year, all those playoff games.

Yeah, something with a lot of talking points

that we just used for Carson Beck.

I thought it's interesting.

They talked to Carson Beck in several of the pre-draft options.

They talked to him at the combine

and then they brought him in for a top 30 visit.

And I think that is, he is the caliber of prospect

where there's questions about, he's the, was it a bow Wallace?

Is that the name of the guy in the, in the, in the draft day,

the quarterback from Wisconsin?

I didn't block that.

Why did nobody vote Callahan?

Why did you not go to your birthday?

Like, he left Georgia, you know, and he goes on to Miami.

He's got some public things out there.

I think he's one of those guys.

You got to figure out the character,

his commitment to the game is he locked in.

And I think he proved that enough to Monty and LaFlora

to feel like where they looked at this, this resume,

this college resume packed with a ton of starts

and a ton of big games in the SEC,

ACC College Football Playoff.

And they said, okay, as long as we can kind of feel comfortable

with the, with the person, we're willing to,

to utilize a, a pick around his vicinity of where he's ranked

to bring him into the, to the program.

I mean, could, could he turn into the Cardinals quarterback coach,

Matt job?

Could he turn into that kind of quarterback

where you're developing this guy?

He comes in, he shows a little something.

I mean, Matt job was a third round pick himself.

Pick 91's upon a time.

Yeah, but he was one of those guys that didn't have to start

right away.

Well, I get it.

And again, that, that will be, he didn't start until he got

to Houston, but that will be the biggest Mike Vic.

In front of him, right?

Right, that will be the biggest kind of litmus test

from, from Monty and Mike to navigate.

Because if this team starts racking up losses,

do they thrust him in the lineup?

I don't want them to play him if he's not ready to play.

Like I, they out, they'll have to eat that.

Mono have to eat that.

If they have to come into this season,

and Jacobi doesn't play well,

they're telling Michael,

but hey, Carson's not ready.

It's like he's not ready to play.

We can't, I have a hard time believing that a guy

who started 50 games in college football,

playing for an offensive head coach,

albeit in the NFC West with the weapons the Cardinals have,

couldn't play games by October.

I just think that that's crazy.

He would, he would have to be a disaster in training camp.

And I don't, I don't think anybody's expecting that.

I think you're expecting somebody who hopefully has seen enough

to know what to expect and can come in here.

And again, manage a game and maybe show you something

in the, in the process here,

but the people who are outwardly against this,

I would love to know what your rationale is,

because here's, here's what I tried to caution everybody on.

And I'm not saying I'm correct,

because they could very well take a quarterback next year.

They were always going to take a quarterback in this draft,

and I thought they were going to take a quarterback

relatively high.

Yeah, and I think there's a lot of people

because there are people in this media market

that are saying that this team is purposely trying to lose.

They're trying to tank.

You're going to get gifted archmaning.

You're going to get gifted Dante Moore.

That is not, we've been telling, that is not their plan.

They're trying to win games.

They're trying to put together an infrastructure

for Mike to have success as a head coach,

because they screwed over Jonathan Ganon.

Fair and I, what you think of JG,

they stripped this roster down,

and they had no shot that first year.

And that was held against him, short-term and long-term.

Mike's going to come in here and try to win.

And they took a quarterback

that they think they can develop into a starter.

No, I promise you nobody's thinking about 2027

in that building right now.

Yeah, I just don't know if Beck fits in the 2026.

I mean, this is what you do have to look

with an eye forward.

You have to look at rebuilding the quarterback room,

post-Kyler Murray.

Sure.

You've got two veteran backups on one year deals.

You got to start taking swing somewhere.

This was that swing.

That's how I view it.

I don't view it as, hey, this is given Michael

for his best shot for success in 2026.

I think a lot of the point that can be made,

I asked it to Fran.

He didn't have an answer.

He's perfectly fine with the pick in the situation as am I.

Yeah.

And you look at the rest of this for people

who are so against it.

Where would you have gone otherwise?

I'm sure people love the upside of Jerala

that went 10 picks later.

And then you're not going to be able to persuade me with that.

Yeah.

Because I watched both quarterbacks play in the college football playoff

and one seemed overwhelmed.

And one was able to navigate it and manage

and get his team to the final game in the season.

Where Aller struggled mightily in his limited starts

in the college football playoff.

I think there's at least a floor for a guy like Beck

to where Aller is a big time project, toolsy project.

Don't forget.

And this is an un kind of reported facet of this.

And I'm not saying that they did this purposely,

but it's just kind of how it worked out.

The Cardinals hired not one,

but two coaches from what university collegently

this off season.

Yeah, from Miami.

They hired two coaches from the University of Miami,

Matt Merritt, who's a running mad coach

and the DB coach name escapes me.

They hired two, so like those coaches

got an up close view of what Carson Beck

was all about in 2025.

So like, I'm sure they had a conversation

or several about like, is he a jag-off?

Is he somebody that we can trust right?

Is he going to be consistent?

Is he going to be reliable?

Yeah.

I'm sure they gave the thumbs up.

Hey, this guy was a gamer.

Hey, this guy won us a lot of games.

Hey, this guy can move the ball down field.

That's an under kind of rated aspect of this.

They got two position coaches that came from that university.

They saw it up close.

Okay.

I think that Carson Beck has an opportunity

to be a piece of the quarterback room

of the future for the Arizona Cardinals.

He's not the quarterback of the future for the Arizona.

Not right now, no.

He's got to earn it.

As you look at the rest of the third round,

post Carson Beck, there was a top 30 visit

that went in immediately.

After him, the Broncos making their first pick,

second pick in the third round.

So the Broncos, a team that basically sat out

free agency outside of signing their own players.

They did make the trade for Jalen Waddle.

They had to wait till the third round

to make their first pick.

They take Tyler Onyendem at a Texas A&M.

Kerian Crawford went to the Vegas Raiders in Edge

from Auburn.

Well, Mark Bell out of the U went as an offensive tackle

to the Eagles.

Sam Roush tied in, went to Stanford, went to the Bears,

Ramello Height, Texas Tech Edge.

He goes to the Niners and Tony O'Williams

selected by the commanders at a Clemson.

T'Cario Davis former U of A cornerback via Washington

goes to the Bengals, Oscar Delt,

the tight end from Georgia.

He goes to the Saints.

Malachi Fields is talented.

Why receiver at a Notre Dame goes to the Giants.

While Caleb Douglas, Texas Tech wide receiver top 30

visit for the Cardinals, no doubt.

He goes to the Miami Dolphins.

While Drew Allers we've talked about,

he was cue before in this class.

He goes to the Pittsburgh Steelers.

He stays in state.

Chris McKellen, now the top 30 visit for the Cardinals,

went to Missouri.

He goes to the Green Bay Packers.

AJ Halsey, LSU Safety goes to end the Colts.

Zachariah Branch finally hears his name called.

Why receiver at a Georgia, he stays in state

goes to the Falcons.

Jacobi Lane, wide receiver at USC.

He goes to the Ravens.

Albert Regis, defensive lineman at a Texas A&M

goes to the Jags.

And then the big Citrus goes to the Vikings.

Dominic Orange at Iowa State, defensive lineman.

Wow.

Chris, they took 2D tackles.

OK, wow.

Well, they were trying to replace the two that they saw.

They signed Jonathan Allen in the hard growth last year.

So they're going young at the position.

Chris Presel, the second at a Tennessee wide receiver,

he goes to the Carolina Panthers and then Ted Hurst,

your most recent pick.

20th overall, 84th overall.

I should say 20th in the third round.

Georgia State wide receiver goes to the Bucks.

So we've got 12 more picks.

No, this is where you start to see some compics coming

to play.

We're going to take you all the way up to pick 100.

It'll be the 36th pick in the third round

before we get it out of here.

But Carson Beck, your newest cardinal, along with the guard

at a Texas A&M chase, Bessons.

No, we want to rip some superchets, my guy.

Yeah, yeah, let's do it.

Also, Ted Hurst, Georgia State, watch out for him.

He is a good player.

All right.

What about your fullback?

Has he been drafted yet?

No, he is on your top 100, though.

He only did 99 players.

I think it was a nod to no, it wasn't it?

You did that for him?

Is he in the green room?

Is he sitting there in the green room?

Yeah, he's making coffee.

Yeah, he's been waiting.

Yeah.

Poor guy.

I'm Mr. Thomas.

Beck is older.

He has to start.

I'm drinking heavily tonight.

I mean, like, I just, I subscribe to the narrative.

He's an old player who's played a lot of football.

I don't know why you would sit him for majority of the year.

I would play, I mean, I don't, I think they're going

to play him.

I think they're going to look for every reason to play him.

PK fits Gerald five bucks, but Beck must play in 2026,

or else you don't know what you have.

You have to figure out what you have before the 2027 draft gets

here.

Yeah, they'll play him.

He's going to play games.

He's going to start games with the same.

I think I've courted bow into that might like you,

you now think he's starting games.

And that's Jacobi Berset goes on like some miracle run.

I mean, the only scenario I see that playing out

is the injuries or a December where the season has lost.

December, I think no, no chance.

This is a strong disagree.

Steve comes burner.

You draft him 65 to not play him to take a QB next year.

So you draft him to then have a backup rookie in 27

without ever playing E place.

Yeah, it doesn't sound like the plan at all.

Panda with wing two bucks will be hard for them

to ignore the noise.

I just think like Jacobi and Gardner

mentioned you just have not won it all.

I don't see right now.

I don't see a whole lot of people are going to conjure up

all that for sure.

That's fair.

B's two bucks dread it.

Run from it.

Don't matter.

Back is rookie of the year.

I'm not going that far.

I do I do think he could play and not embarrass himself.

It's different being able to look at B's as you're just

reading off his super.

This is outrageous.

Super chat.

It's there's something special about it.

Yeah, that's glad we could come together tonight for that.

That's unbelievable.

Red feather workshop Dana Ball knower, average player,

great fit.

Sealing is limited unless he becomes a mental processor

at a higher level than he has shown and cleans up

the stupid.

He fits the floor's archetype must add upper body mass.

Yeah, just get him on a weight program.

Do some pull ups, my guy.

You don't think they have those at Georgia or the U?

No.

How about these guys coming from Georgia or coming from Miami

and coming from Notre Dame, St.

And Francis Maui Noah looks like he needs to ball

a couple a little bit.

He didn't have a good.

Francis, you're looking small.

Jalen Carter, he didn't have a good weight program at Georgia.

OK.

Not a great driving program.

Two slim shady 1399.

I just graduated university and I want

to give a genuine thanks to you guys for getting me

through more late night study sessions

than I can count.

This show is way more than just a fanboy podcast.

Wow.

That's awesome.

Appreciate you.

Congratulations on the graduation.

That's awesome.

And we're glad we could be any assistants getting through

as long as I don't miss those.

No, not too well.

Mr. Cardinal 1969, 10 bucks, according to Johnny Cardinals

got two Hall of Fame players in this draft.

Love and back.

No, but they got three starters.

They got two solid starters in the Hall of Famer.

Solid draft.

A plus.

I actually, I kind of agree with you on love now on that take.

You think he's starting?

What, love?

Or no?

Yeah.

Are you saying Hall of Fame?

Yeah.

OK.

I mean, he said it himself.

Noah was taken back by on press of Jeremiah Love

is, and I think the same thing's

going to happen when you go talk to Carson.

You're like, hey, Carson, I like you.

We got Dylan here, five bucks rooting for Beck,

but he is still more Rosen like than Thai.

Size, experience, pro-ready, et cetera, 64 mistakes made

ahead of me would be an incredible quote, though.

Just got clean some stuff up.

Just got clean a little bit of those turnovers up.

We can coach that out of them.

That's what Nate Hackett's for.

Nad Hackett.

Clean it up.

Yeah.

Moezy Cards fan, 499.

Johnny, are you saying Jacobi shouldn't

ask for more money?

Wouldn't you in his place?

Yeah, 100%.

I said I always sigh with the player,

but it's the Cardinals fault for letting

you get to this point, because they

leaked it out.

He was their starter, and then they backtracked,

and then they said, we don't have a starter yet.

And then Jacobi was like, I'm going to ask for more money.

Anybody probably would have done the same thing.

But the optics of him winning one game last year

and trying to ask for more money, it's just not a good look.

And I would also push back.

It also wouldn't happen in most franchises.

Kyle Haley, five bucks.

The way Michael Floret talked up, Gardiner,

I think he starts then back back up to start the season.

I would like to see Jacobi percent traded tomorrow.

I don't think we'll get it, but that would be absolutely

electric to see them get a pick for Jacobi.

Send into the Jets to back up, Geno Smith,

and then let's do Minchewin and back in 2026.

And Jeremiah Love.

That would be bad news for Trey and Michael Wilson

that have a good rapport with Jacobi.

We'll see.

We got Nuka Loca here.

Beck is one who is promised he will lead us

to our rightful place at the top of the draft for next year

for Archmaning.

Hashtag generational tank QB.

He then follows up with an additional $5 dollars.

Oh, same super chat.

So there we go.

Awesome.

DL AZ.

Yeah, little bro.

No, not DL AZ.

Different from the little bro.

Not the little bro.

That's OK.

Ken Dorsey, Geno, Toretta, 2.0.

I do think it's interesting on Twitter,

where it's the people who are so like of the mindset

that after Ty Simpson was drafted,

that this team was not going to take a quarterback.

You are, are you insane?

Look what they had.

In what world is Monty just signing over his own pink slip

in that aspect?

They were always taking a quarterback.

It's like there's some of these people just

don't pay attention at all.

Right.

Hey, that's fair.

Ryan, $4.99.

There were 64 mistakes made ahead of me back probably.

That's right.

He's out to prove the haters wrong here for it.

The front, five bucks.

What are the chances that the cards trade up

for Dunker or TIT?

That would be a little bit of, get Jennings Dunker

in that moment at the tackle position.

Yeah.

Tiernan, is he still on the board?

He is.

Yeah.

OK.

A couple of the developmental tackles.

Oh, Barbara went, the tackle from Florida.

He went to the Browns just now.

OK.

So Tiernan's still available.

Jeff, $4.99, March for Arch, Alive, and Well,

you love to see it.

No, you don't, because I don't want this team to be that bad.

I want them to win games.

I remember it was about 10 days ago, 9 days ago.

Johnny wanted me to put the bed, the idea of the 2027

quarterback class.

Remember that?

I think it's, I don't think it's dead,

but I don't think it's, you're trying to throw it in my face.

I don't think it's dead, but I don't think it's like,

we're doing it.

You don't.

We'll see.

The quarterback room at Jacoby Persec,

Gardner, Menchew, Carson Beck doesn't.

Let's see what Carson Beck can do.

OK.

Give him a chance.

I think it's disrespectful to talk about 2027 when we got

rookies this year that are going to compete.

Let's let him compete.

Well, big shot in the NBA playoff game over there.

Alex 999, Carson Beck is going to be a 25-year-old rookie.

This isn't a slow-play situation.

They made this pick to see what he is this year.

If he isn't the guy, draft the guy in 27.

He's 23 right now.

He'll be 24 in November, but your point is valid.

They're going to start him.

He's going to start games for this team this year.

Ooh, a manual Pregnon.

It's drafted to the Jaguars.

It's a good value pick for them.

He's 25.

Yeah.

DLAZ is back.

Cut Jacoby paid Derek Carr 20 million.

Derek Carr wanted to come back.

I think the NFL said no, thank you.

Trevor, 199.

Can we finally find our diamond in the rough at quarterback?

I think that's going to be the question of this year.

As you take a guy, 65th overall, can he turn into something?

And if not, that's fine.

MacDaddy, 499.

First thing my dad sent me was said to slot in a QB uniform,

and I can't unsee it.

I think he starts after the buy, but won't be surprised,

if sooner.

It is the Ice Age character.

OK.

I just think there's a lot of people who are anti-Simpsons

fair or not do it because of how he looks, which I think

is unfortunate.

Let's get back into it.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Jenga Man, two bucks, trade back up

in a third for Dunker or Caleb.

Yeah, I would do that, absolutely.

Yeah, they don't do that kind of thing.

Yeah, they're super charged this day, too.

I think it's already, I'm having a great day.

The fact that they came down into their press conference

though is kind of a sign that they're probably done.

They're done.

They want to go home.

Carter Elder, 199.

Cardinals must not have seen the back files.

I saw a couple of those come across my timeline.

It's all right.

Yeah, we were all young ones.

Everybody be careful on Snapchat, either.

Yes, PN, 999.

Back in love are exactly what Arizona needed.

This team is going to put fans and seat

soldiers in will be on national televised games

and finally get recognized, LFG.

I don't think they're going to be on national TV this year.

As far as the regular season now.

Yeah, but let me just play hypothetical for a second.

And I don't know if you care to do this or not.

If Carson back hits, let's go.

Carson back hits, then you're set.

If he becomes a consistent starter of what we thought

we tie Simpson could be, then this franchise

is all the way back.

If he's nothing, then you get a quarterback

next off season or during the draft or what have you.

But I mean, like there are Carson back hitting away

given the pieces that they have on offense

from being a really interesting team.

Yeah, we're close.

I don't see it.

Also, I see it really differently than that.

Like where you brought in an offensive lineman,

you've got the home run hit and running back

to pair with the playmakers that you brought on the outside

and also the tight end.

And we discussed a lot about the defensive investments

that you made and they need to show some development.

So as Marv, I think that you, this is just a roster

that's in a place to where they need to show that they're

a quarterback away.

And they need to, they just need to set themselves up,

prime themselves up to find a starting quarterback

go all in in 2027.

I don't, even though this is, this is not nothing.

This isn't a small investment in a quarterback.

It's not nothing.

It's, it's, it's the first sign of changing

and exploring the future and investing

in the position.

It's probably the worst thing that could happen

at UNI on this show.

Why?

Because had they taken tie even at 34,

but especially in the first round,

2027s basically conceded.

Had they taken a guy tomorrow, forget about it.

They're not, you're, you're looking ahead to 2027.

They took a player right at that sweet spot

where you can say this guy could be something

and he's going to start games.

But then the people who are rooting for 2027

play the opposite side of like this is a wasted pick.

They're not, he's not going to play.

He's a third-rounder.

He's not a traditional third-rounder.

He's the first pick on the third round.

So as it relates to UNI, we're, I mean,

like Carson Beck's going to let us play

and do the talking.

But like, I, it's going to be impossible

for UNI to convince one another

like what this sets up.

Unless we get a report, somebody comes out like Jeremy

Fowler, like the Cardinals view Carson Beck

as a viable option to start games in 2026.

I don't think, I mean, I would be shocked if they see him

as a viable option is the future of the position

with the team.

Like, I like what LaFlore is saying.

We just got to give him the building first.

Sure.

We start to make any kind of decisions on who he is.

They like them enough on the,

there's a prospect to bring him in.

He passed and checked all the boxes I think

that they were looking for just from a person's standpoint

that there's probably like the character,

just, you know, questions about him.

Right.

I mean, it's a big investment.

It's a decent investment.

It's a decently large investment.

It's a semi big investment.

It's a rather large investment.

All right, Noah, keep going.

All right, we got Dave H here, five bucks.

Bo JV Anowa putting in the Yomans work today.

At least Beck gives us something to talk about post draft,

but it's all about love and a QB in 27.

Carson Beck was taken less than 20 spots

from when tip rhyming was taken.

Okay.

He's also taken where Russell Wilson was taken.

I had a Russell Wilson.

It's also taken as far as just the track record

from this general manager.

He took a pick later, 66 overall running back

that started one game for this team in two seasons.

So yeah, because you, because that running back was a bust,

but they drafted Trey Benson to be their starter.

Right.

And he busted, but he didn't, he didn't start any of his games

in his rookie season, because he couldn't play.

And of course, in Beck comes in here and can't play,

then they're not going to play him.

But they for somebody that says this is like a sizable investment.

Well, they drafted the running back to start.

He was a year away from starting.

Well, but he also had James Conner, Pete James Conner

in front of him.

Not backup, you know, Joe blows in the, in with all due respect.

He's got two backups in front of him.

He's got the worst quarterback room in front of him in the NFL.

I mean, Trey Benson was drafted to be like Lightning

and Thunder with James Conner.

50, 50 and then you take over and then guess what,

John and Gaines, like we need to resign James Conner,

because Trey Benson can't move.

Hey, I don't think that's a good example.

I actually think that shrinks into my case a little bit here.

That they can just move off of the pick later in the draft so quickly.

You're getting pivot.

Players drafted were, were Carson Bex drafted or drafted?

You are going to go through the last three drafts

who went 65th overall and see if they've got a big time career

in the NFL.

I would go off like late second early thirds for Monty.

Okay.

Ojalari was a starter until he got hurt.

Okay.

Garrett Williams has been a starter since the day he got here

and he got hurt.

Malachi Corley was drafted by the Jets in 2024.

Well, he was a bus, but he was released.

But he was a bus.

A year later.

But the, all these guys were given chances.

Ty Steen, Tyler Steen, your big Tyler Steen play.

What does he play?

He's apparently with Philadelphia.

He was the 65th overall pick for the Eagles.

What I'm hearing is the 65th overall pick has the due factor.

He started 17 games last year.

Well, that sounds like what Ty's going to do.

You need to brush up on Ty Steen's career.

Excuse me, I'm sorry.

That was in 2023.

Let's just see, 2025 real quick.

Who is the 65th overall pick?

Let's see that huge investment they made.

Darius Alexander, nice little defensive lineman

from Toledo into the Giants.

It's a big difference between the Seahawks last year

taking Jalen Milro in the 90s and the Cardinals this year

taking Carson back 65th overall.

See it pretty similarly just because I know the draft

of the quarterback class.

Okay, I think that's a good comp.

I don't.

I think it's a terrible comp.

I think a good comp for Carson back is Dylan Gabriel

last year where he was drafted with the mindset

that he was going to play.

I'm not saying they come similarly.

No, that's the same thing with Milro.

They're not the same player, but Dylan Gabriel was drafted

by a franchise with no answer at quarterback

and the coaching staff liked him and he played.

Now he was a disaster.

But like they're going to I think Carson back

so way better prospect than 511 Dylan Gabriel.

I mean, let me let me check.

Like Dylan Gabriel.

Let's keep it going with these superchets as he does.

Yeah, we got Mike Meyer here 499.

Been a while had to take a long mental break

from the card stuff.

Welcome back off season.

The chair in the corner of the hotel's room

was made for cards fans.

No, it wasn't.

We're back.

Dylan Gabriel six games started last year.

Okay.

And then how many starts is he going to make this next

zero because he sucks.

But like we got to figure out Carson back

and player not put him in there.

Okay, I know what I need to know

about the backups on this seam.

We're all good.

We're all caught up.

Thank you for everybody with the superchets.

I hope the people that have taken a break

from this team are back and drove after this weekend

because like if I wasn't doing this podcast

and I was a fan casually, I would die hard

whatever I would 100% be back.

Number one, I will never quit this team.

But if I was a casual fan, I would this draft

would get me back like we saw in our DMs

and our mentions this morning that people

were buying season tickets because of Jeremiah Love.

Man, I'm pretty surprised how people,

how much people are anti Carson back.

I thought people would be okay with this.

No, I'm just disagreeing with your expectations.

Right.

But I like, I tie Simpson in the first

and giving up assets or Carson back 65th overall.

I thought people would have signed up for the ladder

that were anti-Tai Simpson.

Yeah, that is, that is, I agree with you on that.

We got G back 77.

He goes, I'm at the draft.

Look left.

What's up?

What's up my guy?

Getting a couple tall boys delivered over there.

What's going on?

This has been great doing a couple nights

doing the draft.

It's been electric.

This atmosphere is fantastic.

You got to make your way out here of course

to heal the river, resorts and casinos

the Santan version of that, it's fantastic.

Brand new, so clean, brand huge TVs.

We're watching the rockets and the Lakers game here

and over time, we got the draft on.

Cowboys, pick is in officially.

What's not to love out here?

Yeah.

Table games are calling our names, great food options.

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Monty mercifully making us wait through all those picks.

Can't, can't just get a little trade up.

Can't get a little trade up here in the end of the third.

We do have Chef here who celebrated

six months of his membership.

He said that they said that we have currently

$65 million guaranteed in running backs.

The most in the NFL by 20 million.

Whatever.

One year, that'll be like a one year thing.

That'll be a one year thing.

When we start, no, because there's 50 million of that

invested in love.

When we start Carson back, we'll have the cheapest

quarterback from the NFL.

We can do whatever we want with that already have that.

Oh, I guess the Kyler thing.

Yeah, there's still some some left over money for this season.

That's a lot of money, but look, you go out there

and you try to find it where he projects to be

at the position.

It's probably where you get paid.

Yeah, for sure.

Man, what a polarizing draft for this team.

It's great.

It is great.

It's what they needed because they they've been

lauded and praised for years about how good their drafts are.

This year, they needed to come in and just throw

everybody off guard.

They took a running back third overall.

They took a non-premium position guard 34, though.

That seems to be universally praised.

And they took not Ty Simpson, not Fernando Mendoza was

available, not Jarell or toolsy guy or Nuzmeyer.

They took Carson back the first pick of the third round,

unbelievable, yet very believable.

Yeah, we got Steven Jackson here for 99.

As Monney's job's safe for all of next season.

Now no matter how it goes, a love brought him a full year

at minimum.

No, I disagree with that.

I mean, it's going to come down to where this team is,

come late November, December.

OK.

Because if you've got, like you did at the end of last season,

the uncompetitive performances, empty seats

and state farm stadium, it's tough to survive that.

And I think your scenario is exactly the scenario

that I foresee leading the way for Carson to start games

is that if Jacobi Bressette, who carries that scarlet letter

of 1 and 11 last year, comes into this year

on a losing streak and loses more games,

it's like Russell Wilson put up fine numbers last year.

It was not a good product.

And I'm not saying that Jacobi is Russell Wilson.

I think it's a little disrespectful in terms

of what Jacobi showed last year.

But the giants couldn't get him out of the lineup fast

now.

And some of this is optics.

And I think if this was a traditional rebuild with new people,

Carson back probably wouldn't start any games.

But the GM is under immense amount of pressure.

And he wants to be able to go to Bidwell and say,

like, look at this, look what we're building.

And we got a rookie guard and a rookie quarterback

and a rookie receiver, or excuse me, a rookie running back.

They could have a rookie receiver tomorrow.