NHL Playoffs Western Conference Preview | Hockey Gambling Podcast (Ep. 604)

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Hello and welcome to the hockey gambling podcast. I am your host, Brian. Gilbert,

we got my co-host, Joel Meyer. We got Sean Masiano. He's in the permanent guest seat. Now,

you guys know that. We got the quad box here for this Western conference playoff preview. We have

Tortured Panthers fan in the chat. This is label here on YouTube, Charles or Chase. We don't

today, boys. Doing our right. I am currently watching the Kanox lose again. So that will cash every

single Kanox point total under $158.5, which look pretty solid too. They won three games in a row

somehow, but the boys are making a quick work of them with the Matt Savoy hat trick in the first

period. Mick David III assists, of course, as he is garbage-timing his way into our trophy seemingly.

But yeah, we're also setting up a little private call cutout, which I'm excited for. Those are

always fun. The listeners know how that's going as the playoffs go on, but yeah, absolutely pumped

for this weekend. Get some playoff hockey going. Are you sure? Are you with us?

Yeah, I'm here for now. I've been a hot mess. I woke up early, did some golfing with some

boys, and then I worked for 11 hours and then I got here just to disconnect every two seconds,

trying to pull it start. That's fun. I'm having so much fun today. I'm just so excited, though.

Really hyped up to have Mr. Seasol over here, though. Very excited.

Yeah, thank you, boys, for having me on. Honored Beyond, excited to talk some puck with some

real puck-nowers here. And yeah, just rooting on, hoping the Panthers can lock up the top

attempt pick here tonight. But listen, there's some teams in here that have been through some tough

times, so no complaints from me. That's a different Panthers fan out this year. So if the,

the, well, looks like the Blues are going to win, and then the Sharks are going to win. So

barring a five-goal comeback here from their sixth goal, come back from the Jets, Panthers would

be locked in to top 10. So not all mad here down in South Florida. So you are from South Florida,

you just, you didn't just join the Panthers bandwagon the last two years and hit a Sam Bennett

115-1 ticket on Consmouth to get to come up Panthers now. You're, you're, you're born and raised

in South Florida? I have been, was going to the games when it was 20 of us in the stands.

Watch some Oliokan and Steven Weiss, David Booth, real, real throwback names. You know,

that was like the cheapest tickets in town, and real close to my house was always going with just

friend's family. It was awesome. And then never, never thought we'd win one, let alone two,

and back-to-back. So can die in peace now as a hockey fan. David, that's the name I haven't

heard of while. You know, he was the, given the Conox Award for most exciting player, right,

in the prime of the Sardineso now. David Brupp of all players, so that's all I remember for

bottom. That's a trolling award right there. Speaking of trolling, I ever boo-shard. I also had three

wrist-period for the Oilers. So check out it, check out his award, his odds for the Norris there.

But I'm not back when I was playing NHL, like, I guess it was 12 or 13 I was in college online.

I played, like, I played, yeah, SHL with a guy who was a Panthers season ticket owner. So it's,

I've always had a soft spot in my heart for the Panthers. Then my boy Claude Giroux got

traded there. Of course, that was the year before. Yeah, it went all the way, but, you know,

I've made some money on the Panthers in the past few years. Back in 12, when we, the first time

we went on to the playoffs in forever, we played Jersey Lost in, I believe it was six. With centerbed,

both in, like, double OT was only, like, 12 years old at the time, centerbed in double OT couldn't

watch the end of that game. It was heartbroken when I woke up, but that was just the Panthers'

fandom forever. But enough about them. We're not here to talk about those Panthers.

Yeah, I mean, even if the Panthers were in the playoffs, we're not here to talk about the

Panthers stuff, about the Western Conference here on this show. Of course, make sure you

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estu.pn slash discord. Get in there for the playoffs here. Playoffs officially starting on

Saturday. We got my Philadelphia Flyers, there's Pittsburgh Penguin Saturday night, eight o'clock

should be a hopefully a good day for myself. I was just looking up at some of like the,

the prop series markets for all in a drop in the share. And I saw any, any game to have 10 plus

goals was like plus 160 for, for the Flyers penguins. I think that is, that's a good bet there.

There's a lot of juice in that market series, perhaps any game, 10 plus goals. Yes,

is plus 165. That was minus 205. So only only 40 cents of juice there, but those are some fun

bets to do for the whole series long. Look at that, that same bet. But I think if there's one

series that can get completely off the rails for like one game, why not a series with stew skinner

or our beloved and, um, and Dumbledore. Hey, don't talk, don't talk shit on my boy, Dumbledore,

but, but the Flyers powder deco, the Flyers powder deco can definitely, uh, definitely cause that to

happen there. They also have like any game to go to double over time for some of these series. That

could be worth a look for a team like the, the Hurricanes or something, that three to one. But,

we'll dive more into those type of bets and artificial bets on Friday night, probably on 10 p.m.

If you want to join us live, um, we did the Easter conference preview on Wednesday nights,

make sure you guys check all of that out. Um, no puck bucks for last night or tonight, but,

but Joel, you're, uh, your garbage games overs are finally starting to hit tonight.

When you finally, they've been, they've been, they've been, they've been doing well.

They didn't hit last two nights, you said. There was third time to try tonight.

Two nights ago. Nice to go. It's okay. Yeah. Yesterday was okay. Yeah.

Slommies keep falling short, but I go. And of course they didn't even offer the slommie today. So, uh,

it would have flown over today, even though Kings and Plans are finally scoring. But,

anyway, uh, yeah, good day on the ice here, especially if the, uh,

knocks don't get a point, but, um, that shouldn't be an issue. Yeah. Uh, remember the days when we

were, uh, telling up the celebrity points, well, it would have been a nice, uh, nice day for that,

but those days are long gone. So, uh, yeah, seeing him score against the Jets is, uh, yeah,

pretty much fond memories, but, um, worthless in the end.

Bittersweet, bittersweet for celebrating. I don't want to talk about it.

Yeah, we only have two series in the West set right now. Maybe we'll have one more by the end

of the podcast. Probably not because the only second period where the Kings game docs right now

tied in, uh, middle of third period. I know they need to win for, for something there. Um,

yeah, we'll see what it is by the end of the show. But right now, just got the stars wild,

that has been set for a while as well as, uh, Vegas Golden Knights against the Utah mammoth.

Um, do you guys have anything you want to touch on before we just get rid of this here?

So the Kings win, they play the oilers, right? Or do the ducks, if they win, depends on the docs,

also, yeah. Ducks win, they play, but if they both win, oh, oilers, assuming oilers, obviously,

I mean, they're going to win. But if they don't win, the ducks win, the ducks win, it doesn't matter.

Okay. Because, uh, you're trying to break it for the Kings's ban.

Yeah. True. Yeah. True. Yeah. I show that. 22, 22 regulation wins. Right. I mean, only, only the

conducts have fewer than 22. And that's 15. That's how that's that. But in that, for now,

and it's the lowest number the country ever had, even their cobalt season, they had more

regulation. That is awful. That is awful. Uh, Chase, before we get into the West, what are some

Eastern Conference? Do you have any Eastern Conference strong takes on the series we talked about

yesterday? Um, nothing really too, too strong. Um, I listen to your guys show yesterday. Um,

I think the, the Bruins are sneaky live. Um, I saw it somewhere that the, uh, Bruins to win from,

or I'm sorry, Buffalo to win from behind is plus 270. I kind of like the Bruins in Game 1 quite a

bit. Um, just think between the motion and the building, um, Game 1, I think the Sabers are

just going to be a bit inexperienced. So I think if the Bruins are going to punch from the mouth,

they got a punch from the mouth early. Um, so it's looking at that. And then, um, I do have some

sends futures here, which I've cooled on a bit. I don't really know what happened with the truck

in that last game, but that did not seem good. Um, but, you know, like you guys said yesterday as

well, he looks fine. Um, he said he's fine. So we'll see there. Um, I did see a tweet that made me laugh.

It was why are we always putting the canes in the 1 p.m. Sunday game. Imagine you being, uh,

first exposed to hockey and you're watching Carolina Hurricanes hockey. Well, no, everyone,

everyone's still out doing stuff at 1 p.m. That's, that's the nothing game slot. That, like,

that's, that's nothing game slot. Everyone's going to settle in for what, what's the, what's the

5 o'clock game? 5 o'clock, 5 30 wild stars. And you got the battle day or night. Like it's, uh,

yeah, I saw someone a tweet that was like, Oh, the, the Hurricanes and like the Texans are always

guaranteed the worst timeslot. Yes. As they should, as they should. But um, and then other than that,

I do like the lightning. Um, I think they, I kind of think that we may be on course for a very

boring, uh, conference finals where it just canes, uh, canes lightning. I hope, I hope, I hope,

I hope, I hope that either. But yeah, I do like that, that, uh, Bruins game one Sabers win series

is a plus 380 on Fandall. That's definitely not a bad look at all. Plus 400 traffic. So shop around

for that, um, for some of those stuff. We will also touch on those tomorrow. Of course, in our,

full preview. But, uh, yeah, if there's nothing more, we can get into the West playoffs here. We'll

start with this series that has been, you know, pretty much decided for the past week. We have

the Dallas stars minus 120, uh, against a Minnesota wild minus or plus 100. That's pretty much

what it is there across the board here on Fandall. It's minus 118 minus 102. So two cents there,

two cents better. If you want to go at Fandall, uh, series spread, stars minus one and a half is

plus 186. Wild plus one and a half is minus two 45. And then the over five and a half games is

minus two 10 under five and a half games is plus 168. Uh, that over five and a half games. It's

juicy minus two 10. But that almost seems like a lock. But, um, Chase, you're the guest here. What

do you got for this series? Yeah. So for something that's been decided so long, um, you think that

there'd be some more strong opinions on this series. I feel like all the way back in December,

it kind of looked like this was set in stone, even though it wasn't. Um, but truly, I don't really

think there's much in this series between the two teams looking out of that side. I mean,

these teams are are very even. Um, I believe they have the number two and number three power play.

I was trying to just check my, my notes here, but, um, think I had a typo here. But I think the

main difference in the series is going to end up being the stars depth down the middle. Um,

how many times have we seen down the middle matter? It's specifically in the playoff. So, uh,

water gun to my head. I would be leaning, uh, towards the stars. But, um, in this, what I,

what I like most is I think we're just destined for seven here. Um, I don't know the best price

you could get on it. But I think seven games on Fandall, I saw it was like plus 165. Um, I believe

you could get better than that. So shop around, um, as always. But yeah, plus two 10 plus two 10,

I'm not asking that. I feel like that's, that's exactly for there. Yeah, I just really don't see a

world where this doesn't end up going seven. Um, looks like Miro is going to be good to go for game

one. But hints is going to miss if the first few games for the stars. So, um, yeah, that's kind of

just my general thoughts for the series. But I expect this to be a long series.

When about the, uh, Quinn Hughes illness that is, uh, starting to, that's how we're going to

get, uh, it to be long. He's going to, he's going to be fine. The while they're going to win

game one, then he's going to get the rest of the team sick track out the series.

Then they'll both get sick in time to play the avalanche in the next one. Yeah, I totally agree

in terms of this being a lot of things series. I did bet the over five and a half juicy number.

Yeah, seven games is probably the better play if you don't want to lay the juice. Um, yeah, it's hard

to see one of these teams just dominated the other. You know, they know each other well.

The original rivals and all that. But at the end of the day, I think that the stars have the,

the better pedigree. They've been set by injuries all season long. You're starting with, uh, Tyler

Sagan, of course. Um, yeah, they didn't do as much of the trade deadlines as it expects. But, uh,

still bringing Todd Myers makes that, uh, decore even bigger taller. And that certainly will

in the playoffs. And yeah, just, uh, just narrative, um, talk shit all you want. But, uh, the wild

and first round absolute garbage for years and years. Nobody talks about it because, uh,

believes have all the attention in Canada and abroad. Um, so yeah, stars, they've been there

done that's new coach in town, which, which tends to help, uh, these teams, um, go further in the

playoffs. It's a curious trend. But that's what it is. It's stronger than that trend, really.

Um, so yeah, Quinn Goldson lead this boys past the wilds where they'll lose to the avalanche. So,

yeah, Mars 2018, I think it's pretty good. Hopefully, we need haste. And they're like, that's

very encouraging that he's good to go for game one because he is as important as anyone. Maybe

why Johnson can make him run for his money. But, uh, certainly the best fence. And then the series,

well, not the series because we got Quinn Hughes on the other side. But, um, yeah, and that's the

thing to you with the wild and Quinn Hughes is that he's kind of a vulnerable, susceptible to

forechecking pressure. We saw the preds do that when the Knox run around a couple of years ago,

where he was neutralized to large extent. We saw Canada do that to the Americans just constantly

pressure him. He can't do anything in that game. So, yeah, stars, I think they have the depth

to do that for checking pressure and they can utilize the greatest wild weapon in Quinn Hughes. So,

yeah, give me the stars. They're Mars 2018 and, uh, yeah, six or seven games and, uh,

some of the total games. To just, uh, real quick, to touch on your

Gulletson, uh, being in this series, right when it came in, I thought he had a really interesting

quote at the beginning of the season. He just said he wanted to get, um, some of the long lines

of like one degree more physical every game, one percent more physical. I think they, they're just

going to try to just beat the crap out of, um, the wild here and obviously Quinn Hughes specifically.

Uh, yeah, I don't disagree with any of that. I'm not much more than that. I am, I have already bet, uh,

Dallas. So, um, maybe I'll take Dallas game one and the series as well for a nice good price.

Yeah, I don't really think I have much to add. I completely agree. I think this, no, this

should be a good series. Everyone go planning about how the second and third best teams in the

conference are playing each other in, in round one. You know, maybe it would be better to have

hastening and hints back. But yeah, the Quinn Hughes illness is interesting because that could spread.

You know, hopefully he's isolating for the, uh, the wilds sake, but my take on the wild has just been

there. They're an un-serious franchise. They're going to be good in the regular season.

Might win around. Might somehow get the conference final, but until they do something, I'm just

not going to, not going to believe it. Um, stars have, have been through this, got the experience,

got the physicality, got the new coach. Um, I don't really see a spot where Minnesota has a clear

advantage over Dallas. Dallas doesn't necessarily have a clear advantage, like, positionally, but I think

having the experience and having, having me currently on your side is, uh, it was always a good

thing. But I mean, uh, good point. He's a playoff weapon. Yeah. With the average two, like, he's

always the, uh, the higher scoring player, even more than the Kennen. Yeah, yeah, Brandon just, uh,

turns it on in the playoffs. I'm trying to see here what Capri's off has done in the playoffs.

Uh, nine, nine points in six games last year, but in his career, 21 points in 25 games. So,

doesn't quite show up at that point for game pace that you would expect, um, but he is well.

Think if you're the wild, you, you really want to see Bolby take a leap here in this series. I

think that's the only way that they can, uh, maybe overcome this. He's, he's got to turn into a real

superstar here. Yeah. And, and you brought up the center depth for, uh, for Dallas. I mean,

that's kind of where the wild lack is what like Ryan Hartman's your top center.

Joe Erickson, X, a good center for your second line. You got your off there. Um, yeah, it's,

it's basically, and you got, yeah, Zookarello and, and your hands in it. It's if they can play up

to the level and support Capri's off in Bolby. If, uh, that can go a long way as well. Yeah,

you work correct the second and third power plays in the league. There are stars and wild stars

do have a slightly better penalty code at 80.3 percent wild though 79.8. Like there, there are a few

five spots difference in the standings, but both pretty good there. So yeah, I have to see it

before I believe it for the, uh, for the wild. So, uh, I like the stars here minus 118, minus 120,

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The fact to a Western Converse Final. I don't like the Pacific. Nobody does. It's

pretty obvious now that it's a terrible division. We'll see if this whole new coach bump

they got there at Tortorella is real, but as we'll get into, they've been beaten on shitty teams

and getting a little bit better goal-tuning. But yeah, these teams are much better than anyone

in the West in terms of the, other than the avalanche, of course, in terms of the,

five and five played. You mentioned their elite special teams and all that, goal-tuning solid.

So yeah, I think that whoever wins that avalanche slash stars, slash wild round will be your

Western Converse Final winner. So yeah, we got lots of stars, lots of abs in the West. Those are

our biggest positions there. And yeah, the prices come down as you'd expect, but that's still,

I mean, right now the way you probably just have a launch because their price hasn't changed much

in months, even though they just solidified themselves as the best team. In the league, especially

getting cadre, you know, that, yeah, stars, there are a number of two behind them for me.

Yeah, I was only able to plus one to 60 in the West, three to one for the cops. So yeah,

it should be a good, and they're probably going to get the kings in the first round, right?

That's the likely first round matchup. There should be a sweep and get a few days off before the

second round. I was just saying, you're, you're called out earlier of the central. So when the

the cop, I thought that was a great look, been adding some of that. Here's past a few weeks.

One thing I did look at in this series, they have these on Fandall and a couple of other places,

but it's like player to score X amount of goals in the series. I like Justin Hitskovian,

and Maverick Bork, two cool backboys. I think they're going to get on the board in this series.

I wouldn't go much higher than three. I think one or two goals for each is a bit, but it's going to

be a long series we think here. These guys have really been stepping up here as of lately with

with some of the injuries. So I'm sure they'll, they're, borks up there. I don't think Hitskovian is

on Fandall. I think on draft Kings, I saw them up. Yeah, draft Kings, you have them at one each,

Justin H. I'm not pronouncing my last name is. Is minus 120 to score one. Maverick Bork minus

195, but here on Fandall or Maverick Bork plus 320 to score two. Remember, this is the market

last year. I cast you in big on Cory Perry. Like, like, you, you find the discrepancies in this

market. Go right back to it. Yeah. We're three goals. Maverick Bork 9 to 1 here on draft Kings.

You see if the other guy 20 to 1 for Justin, her, I don't know, I'm on.

Her's Kovian or Kovian. It's Kovian. Ritz Kovian. Like a Ritz cracker. Kovian. Ritz Kovian.

Let me see what this area is. This all the crazy. Bork 13 to 1 on 13 to 1 off and on 9 to 1.

Brando score three. Is he playing top six for Dallas?

I think with, with hints out, he, um, he has been in the top six. Um, yeah, obviously it's,

it's fluid, but we'll see. I mean, the way he's been scoring, but the two of them recently, um,

I don't see why they shouldn't stay up there at least in at least start game one.

God, you got, you got me itching to shop, shop around all these markets again. I love these

markets. I'll see if I'll see if I find something good for tomorrow night. What's our boy,

cowboy yet? Cowboy yet. What do you want? Score, uh, but two goals minus two 50. Three goals.

Is I'll be, I'll be, I'll be clicking. Crazy amount of power play goals this year,

really change anything for you. I'll still bet it. Whatever.

Yeah, those those get to get his goals. Those are always fun markets to dig into and then shop

around to get to get, find some off market prices there. Okay, the only other series in the West

that is set is the Vegas Cloton Knights and Utah mammoth. As I said before, uh, these,

these odds are kind of weird around the board here on Fandall Vegas minus one 88 Utah plus one

55, uh, Vegas, you can get minus one 67 on Kambi books, which is that river, sugar house,

stuff like that. And then a Utah plus one 55 is the best price in the market.

As for the spread, golden nights minus one and a half plus one 20 mammoth plus one and a half minus

one 54, uh, total games over five and a half only minus one 92 under five and a half plus one 54

archer. I'm throwing this one your way because I'll we'll have Joel talk about his abs after this.

I am a golden knighter this series, uh, personally. And uh, I'm gonna wait though. I'm gonna see if it

goes against me a little bit because I think that might because I think it is kind of a big thawing

at this, uh, price, uh, I think you can find better elsewhere, but for this, uh, I might look into

Utah game one and then uh, golden nights full series, uh, like 41. So I'm like, it's something like

that should get a good price on it. I, um, I'm not really a big tourney guy and I'm not really, um,

um, believe it, because they're pretty youthful here, uh, the mammoth are handy or inexperienced and I

think, uh, when that's your kind of bill for a summer game series, so I could see it going that way,

you know, early edge to mammoths, they're coming out hot and then, you know, on my screen when

the summer game series because those are kind of bill for my opinion, um, I think the ducks are short,

yeah, they did five four, um, sorry to interrupt my own. So it looks like the ducks will be playing.

Paul Giesinger yourself. Yes. Yes. Yes. Looks like the oilers will be playing the ducks in the first

round because they're on the powerpoint still. Not too many of them. You can still fill the ducks. So

looking pretty nice for the pet predators here. But uh, yeah, I don't have a fort out. That's kind of

what I'm looking at so far. I haven't quite solidified my thoughts. Yeah. Actually, look at the season,

season series. I actually, let's do that. Since there is a two one Utah, um, four one Vegas

five one Utah, then four nothing Utah in Vegas on March 19th. Yeah. That's kind of important too.

So that kind of leads to means to the Utah, maybe within that sense. Go might as probably have

probably lost every series of draft teams, right? Because we had that run where they didn't eat a single

playout teams. It's like a member. Yeah. Yeah. That's not going to help them at all. Um, yeah, at the

beginning of the season, we like the nights, but they've been a huge discipline since they still might

just win the division, thankfully. Um, but yeah, I'm not certainly lost a lot of faith, but now with

total rubble on the behind the wheel. It's a bit of a wild card here. You don't know how they're going to

play like I mentioned before. Like you like the new coach in there. Um, you know, Tury D not the

biggest fan, but I love this team though. Logan Cooley. He's he's doing his thing. He's been hot

to end the season. Yeah. There's a lot of fun to watch. Um, despite like the coaching, like it's

pretty conservative coaching, but they have so much skill. It like overcomes it to some extent.

So I have a small bet on the mouth there plus 155. You get the nights there minus 165 at bet online

as well. Um, but yeah, I'm not a big, not a big play. I would have been bigger if it wasn't for

the total relihiring because that that kind of throws the plan into a bit of disarray, but I still

got to go with our memories. Give me the boobies plus 155. I think they, uh, think they could do it.

Despite the lack of experience, whatever, um, yeah, bit of a house money.

Chase, what do you think? Yeah, I like the nights here. Um, it's funny. Like you said, like eight

games ago, no one would be touching the nights with a 10 foot pole here and you bring in

Torterella behind the bench and they just have this newfound life. Um, nothing crazy. I don't

really feel too convicted on it, but I mean, finally they should start to get some saves is really

what it seems like a boiled down to. Um, one thing I was going to mention for this series was a

certain, like, uh, across places they have extra amount of games to go to over time and I thought

that would have been a good look here. Um, then you read off the season series. That's, uh,

the scores that I weren't aware of. But every Vegas game finds a way to go to over time this year,

I feel like, um, so I feel like we, we would get some over time in this series. Um, but yeah,

just, I think like you said, Archer, um, the nights are just a season theme that can go seven

games. Um, they got the size in defense and, um, their goal tendons been coming together here

recently. So I like them to win this. The most Vegas thing I'd be to lose the first game and

then win this, win the series. Yeah, we could get a fiery fiery towards press conference after

the first game. He's got to do his whole coaching cycle in in this series here. Yeah,

surprisingly speaking of coaches, Eric bonus is back in Columbus for next season. So we'll see what

they do and the off season. Uh, yeah, but looking at Vegas is, uh, over time games last year,

two in each series went to over time, including, of course, the one nothing over time loss to get

eliminated there. Um, yeah, Vegas is finally getting some save, but also they've been just good

defensively. Um, since, since Christmas, uh, 5 on 5 score in venue adjusted league best 2.28

expected goals against for 60 since, uh, the Olympic break, their league best 2.11. And in the last

10 games, largely due to Torrello there, um, 1.87, you know, I know they, they, they play the

connox in that, in that span, they play, they play the cracking twice or they play the connox twice,

the deflames. Yeah. Um, I don't care how much, uh, a point adjusting you do, it's not enough

for those teams. So that, so that is what scares me about Vegas. It is the golden card. Obviously,

he did win a playoff round in Philly in 2020 and, uh, in the bubble against Terry Price and

the Canadians, but that, that's what scares me about Vegas. It's a gold tending. And, you know,

Vemelka started a bunch of games in a row for Utah, started a bunch of games in the

row last year. I do wonder if he wears down a bit, but I also wonder if Vegas has enough

offensive firepower to keep up with Utah's scoring. Archer is doing something. What, Archer, you okay?

In the hive has one. Okay. What are you celebrating?

The point. We're not watching the stupid ass fucking Kings play in the oilers again.

Oh, okay. You're just, you just, it just seemed like you like one of the lottery. I was,

I was rooting for, uh, for abs, abs, docs, uh, Kings oilers would have been, uh, abs oilers would have

been the best. Abs, abs, abs, that would have been, uh, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know what

I was saying. I don't know what I was saying. We might get out eventually. I hope hopefully there.

But yeah, for this series, like, I, I think it is just still, just Vegas, though, the more

experienced team Utah, the up and comers, younger, they have these guys, taking steps forward.

Sean Dursy is day-to-day. I'm not sure if that's due to, uh, just rest, but he did not return.

I think he took a shot of a wrist or something. That could, uh, it could be not great for, for Utah

there. So yeah, I do like that over time. Look, um, Chase, what books do you have available to

you down there in Florida? So, uh, we have, we have hard rock and then all the offshore stuff here,

and, um, and then we got some prediction markets, um, and, uh, Prophet X, that is, okay. Love Prophet X.

Oh, yeah, because, because listeners know, I think pretty much by and Joel and

Star and Agile and to make sure they know. Yeah, yeah. I don't think I have hard rock here in PA,

but I, uh, I think it's available in New Jersey. I mean, I'm sure that's all we have. Yeah. I mean, at least,

at least you have one legal like us down there. Yeah. Of course, you're gonna just draft games only,

and then be very killed for it every single time you bring up the odds. At least we use draft games on the podcast.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Um, yeah, I don't think I'm gonna be betting on this series. I think the

mammoth would be a fun team to root for, you know, not only to see John Totarella kind of

exploded in the post game press conference, but like, they're a fun young team. Like, I would like

to see them, uh, see what they can do, but I'm not gonna have any strong plays in this series. I

don't think, um, potentially over five and a half games minus one 92. Um, most series are over minus

200. So, um, yeah, I could say the mammoth winning mammoth game one Vegas to win the series is

plus three 70. I think I saw it's four to one at draft games. Um, so maybe something like that.

But yeah, I, I'm not too strong on other side here. I'd probably go with the mammoth if I had to.

But yeah, the Vegas at the minus 165 price you said, but online has, uh, Joe, I feel like that's not,

that's not a bad look at all. That's what it was this morning. I'm gonna look since, yeah. Well,

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Seeing her kind of like David got another power play assist here. What's that?

Three power play assist for forces in the game. Yeah, he's going up really high on

fan door right now for the heart. What's really high? What's really high?

What's really high? 320. 320. That's 400.

If I am, he's more than after that. Yeah, that's crazy.

I mean, when you compile it on the connex, man, you just got to index aggressively.

I mean, how? I mean, how? I mean, Bouchard came in this game with 92 points.

He could get up to 100 if they wanted to. Yeah, enough.

I got six months. David came in with 134. He's up to 138.

Kutraff, 130. McKinnon, 127. Yeah, that might that might do it for

McDavid. So, you know what? I mean, I shout out at about 10 to one at the Olympics.

So I'm going to. Oh, love, love McDavid.

I'm going to give it for hockey.

Fuck you.

I apologize. I apologize. I was probably a celebrity stock.

Any other thoughts on the series? Any players or score goals, Chase?

And this one? I didn't look too in deep in this one, but I did take a peek at

Dora Fayette to lead the series. I mean, he's just a sniper, man. He's awesome to watch.

I can't recall what the odds are. I think it was maybe six to one.

Come on. You know me. I'll find them for you. Keep talking.

Keep talking. Plus five, plus five, 50 plus five, 50.

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I'm due to this awesome.

I don't know what he is to score like a certain amount of goals, but I mean,

drafting also adds that the hat trick prop, I believe.

But no, that looks like just for a player in a series.

So yeah, hat trick to me.

Oh, hat trick to me again.

Well, well, you have to pick a player.

So you'd have to, you can't just, or are you saying for Dora Fayette?

They have a different one. So they have like a, they have, but so a hat trick

in any game, Dora Fayette, that'd be what I was talking about, but I was on the tab.

Yeah. That's what I was talking about. Plus 160 for Vegas, you think?

Yeah, that's no thank you. No thank you. But Dora Fayette, to get one, what's that?

Uh, Dora Fayette, I just had that up here.

I'm making me work hard here.

Oh, this is the joy of watching us on YouTube.

You get to see me go through all this stuff.

Dora Fayette, 13 to one, have a hat trick.

And my, uh, my penguins are sitting across me 14 to 14 to one.

That's crazy. Get that in there.

You got there. Oh boy, I'll say 50.

Oh, and tip it. The sharp, sharp number on Oh and tip it to get a hat trick.

Yes.

21. He's been on fire.

Uh, give me that Brian Ross number.

What, uh, what other penguins can we get?

I cannot believe the rate that Anthony Manta is scoring out this season.

Yeah. Oh, I've got a Malkin 31.

Oh, give me that too. And just a Brazil.

It's going to be in the 10 goal game.

Just can you parlay the two?

I live on.

Probably that probably.

Uh, I'm just going to take all the penguins, uh, future like that.

Head to head points. Head to head goals.

Plenty, plenty to dive into if you're, uh,

you're, you're truly desperate for something.

Something, something similar for bets.

Like you got to, uh,

I think I'm going to be betting pack aircarls.

So for most points in the series though, I like 10 to one.

I like that.

Ooh, that's, that's not bad.

I'm going to see most points.

Um, I really pie shopped it though.

So I don't want 10 to one.

10 to one.

Yeah, 10 to one there.

I went to that.

That's Archer's book.

He knows, you know, I know the odds.

But like that, right?

Yeah.

Porto Martone, Porto Martones, 22 to one.

He's been.

No, I don't know.

I'm fine.

I'll follow up that.

Yeah.

That's a big drop on the fourth line.

Chase, what are your thoughts here on the, uh,

the Flyers Penguin series?

Um, I, uh, I got to tell you,

I lean with the, uh, the pens here.

We don't use that word here, Chase.

We don't use that word.

That, that's just, it's just such a, um,

a toss up though.

Really, either outcome.

Unfortunately, they're getting slaughtered next round.

But I'll be, I'll be rooting for Philly and let's get some

youth here.

They need, uh, a nice step up for learning experience

for these young guys here.

Yeah, they really do.

Um, I saw the athletics preview.

Has the, the penguins at like 59% to, uh,

to win the, uh, that's crazy.

I always looked at Don's projections.

Got a young man.

I think he has Stars Wild 50 50.

He said they're projecting, uh,

Rupa hints out for, um,

the first four games.

I can, I'm just showing that up here on the screen.

Got Stars Wild 50 50.

Here, um, fires penguins 59 41.

Sabers 58% to the Bruins 42% and Keynes 59.

Senators 41.

And, uh, that's it.

That's it.

So far for Dom, uh, Lucius and there at the athletic.

He must not be high on the Sabers' edicts.

I know he's not high on the, on the Bruins.

So the Sabers only at 58% they're, uh,

really is like 2% to win the cup.

That's true.

Does he have the, uh, the lightning up there?

Cause I know he was, uh, obviously like,

it's right.

Yeah.

33, like 90% yeah.

I win the series.

I don't know.

That's fine.

No, he's not there yet.

I'm sure that'll be tomorrow.

Yeah.

No, I'll have probably everything up tomorrow before the game.

One's on Saturday.

Let's look at the Western conference.

Just, uh, a future odds here.

You have the avalanche plus 160, golden nights, uh,

five to one, oilers, six to one, stars, seven to one,

wild eight to one, mammoth, 17 to one,

kings, 22 to one, and ducks, 30 to one here.

Um, I don't, I don't know.

I know if there's any team that I really like at these prices.

Maybe the stars, if you really like them in the first round at seven to one,

but you have to have a lunch to deal with, obviously.

Um, who are the, maybe the mammoth at 17 to one?

If you think they can beat the golden nights,

beat whoever, then they play the oilers.

It's, it's all, yeah, it's all pretty, pretty tight here.

For myself, I just ran up at the cup prices for these guys,

because unless it's the lightning, I think that these teams

went pretty comfortable against other,

any other Eastern team.

So, uh, go there at the rods.

Yeah.

So, uh, yeah, just double the odds for the avalanche, basically,

and the stars, what are they at?

Yeah, double number, 14, wild 18.

Um, you talked four times.

I've been vetting a lot of the Eastern stuff.

Eastern team is just when the east, not a lot of cup odds,

but Western teams, for sure, to win the cup.

This, yeah, that's a good bet too.

I mean, Western teams win the couples with,

what, minus 120 or something like that.

Yeah, last, yeah, that's central, central plus 160.

Like, I don't know what the dutching would be.

Oh, yeah, it's even better.

Read a one.

A little bit earlier.

Yeah, so you can still put that, that's kind of crazy.

You can start a plus 160 on the central.

Especially because you have, uh, you have Utah in there as well, right?

Like, they're a central team.

Yeah, yeah.

Plus 150.

I'm just down there on the Pacific side of the practice.

Yeah, you could, yeah, you could have two central.

My, my very well, but two central teams in the conference final.

Absolutely.

But yeah, the, um, the way I'd play it is just McKin

to, uh, to win the cons might.

You read my mind here, McKin and seven to one at Fandall

to win the cons.

Number, though, you got a McCart 20 to one if you want to.

That's nice.

That's, that's a nice number.

That's a good cash out.

That's a good cash out that there, uh, from your car.

Cause like, like we were talking about last night,

but I don't, I don't see, um, a car winning it again.

He's 12 to one at Draft King's 20 to one here at Fandall,

uh, Kutraff 16 to one.

David 19 to one, Vassy 22 to one,

Aho 22 to one, Jarvis 27.

And then everyone else are 30 to one.

One more Brenda Bussey.

There are 33 to one.

Oh, whatever price that is.

Right and point to three to one.

They're interesting.

You can get him a 60.

He's only in one of the places I was looking at that.

Cause he's a noted platform.

He hasn't had a great season.

But 66 to one of Draft King's there.

I always turns up in the playoffs.

Who else is?

Um, would you look past anyone on the, uh, like, uh,

past McCart for the abs?

I saw someone put it in a long shop for a squat,

which would at like 175.

Yeah, I, I can't.

That's like a pure cash out if you think about it.

Yeah, do you like think about a long enough, right?

If you think that, uh,

we haven't used in both goalies though.

We don't even know if wedges going to start with blackwood.

Blackwood's 150.

Yeah.

Um, that's tough.

Well, damn the dar 150 to one.

Well, yeah, McKinnon seven to one seems kind of crazy.

Since the, since the abs are three to one.

Like, yeah, I thought, I thought it wins it more than 50% of the time.

Yeah, I thought plus 650 was a lot on, uh,

Jacob Slaven, not getting a love here.

225 to one.

I can't.

Slaven, just that McDavid.

Just that McDavid and that's it.

If you think the Kangerin.

Come on.

I have a bootchart though.

Come on, guys.

Oh, good off.

There'd be, I think that there'd be like,

well, I would bet before,

these little neon dry side like for you to one.

Better numbers.

Is dry side coming back?

Dry side of 45 to one.

Now there's the games.

Yeah, if you miss it, some games that drips a bit

and they'll be like six points behind McDavid after two games.

I was speaking of cashouts though.

If you have any future bets at good numbers,

or you think aren't going to win.

Friday might be the day to cash them out.

That might be the one day where it's the purgatory

between regular season and playoffs.

Books do sometimes offer cashouts when they don't normally

on that day.

And that's the last day for the ballots as well.

Yeah, the awards.

Yeah, for the, I remember last year,

I had a good cashout number.

I think on Kutra off on the last day,

or the day after the last day before the playoffs.

And I didn't take it because

who could see Conor Halibut find the hard trophy?

God damn it.

So speaking of goalies,

if you were bullish on Vegas,

would you look at a Carter heart cashout for cons, right?

That is crazy.

I saw that.

I saw that too.

Someone posted that.

I don't think he could ever win.

But I mean,

I think you could get a decent.

I feel like there's a lot of reasons

why he can't ever actually win that award.

Exactly.

He's not winning.

It's a complete cash outplay.

It's a complete cashout.

It would have to be a complete cashout.

Yeah.

I mean,

him, Aiden Hill and Akira Schmidt

are all the same price,

351.

Like,

I,

Carter Hart's missing a few years.

I mean, great, great cash outplay.

That's a, that's a call.

That's what, that's what you got.

That's what you got.

That's a lot of cash outplays out there, you know?

I think that's the year for cashouts.

I mean, the,

the cons of my,

I think is,

unfortunately this year,

pretty, pretty chalky.

Yes, yeah.

That's why, like,

I jokingly said it in,

in the group chat a few months ago,

but I was like,

Kalshi is the future.

You can, you can buy in.

You can sell your positions.

Like,

you're promo code SGPN.

Got to get in there and they're on Kalshi.

But like,

how about the Olympics with, uh, big David?

Yeah, you don't have to worry about cashouts.

You can just, you can,

you can, you can actually sell.

Oh, but it was minus 4,000.

Yeah, like why?

Like, after they already cast the ballots,

he's like,

it's like well over like,

after it was announced already.

Yeah, like,

literally,

you can just get better.

Yeah, too. It's like,

what are you doing?

All right, anything else,

uh, we got, we got what that's on chase.

Uh,

thanks for joining us.

You're going to join us tomorrow.

That's well, correct?

I would love to.

Yep.

I'll be here tomorrow.

Yeah.

No, you're, you're great guest here.

You're welcome on.

Whenever you, uh,

would like probably tomorrow,

what 10, 10, 30 depends on the,

I'm not, I'm not wrapping it up now.

I'm just giving the listeners a little bit, um,

tuning out.

How's golf going?

How's golf going?

We got what the obviously heritage here.

How's that going?

No, I'm on my boy,

with Big Albert.

He's killed it minus eight today.

He's going to break my heart again on Sunday.

No doubt.

Yeah, um,

if you've got had a lead to,

to win the thing at some point.

So well, we got the first step

made once again.

The problem is the last step

every time with this guy.

But yeah,

maps with Patrick.

We're on him too as well.

He's won this place,

this place before a couple of times,

both as an amateur

and as a pro.

And he had a sick day,

two minus six minus seven.

I think he's in the mix there.

So yeah, those my two horses really,

Victor Hoblin, my guy,

I have a little bit on him.

And he's killed it today too.

So all my Europeans,

the same guys that I write every

tournament they're all doing well.

So I'm looking promising,

but it is of course only at Thursday.

Yeah, it's only on Thursday,

first round there.

So is the duck series confirmed now?

Or do the, I guess the oilers go.

Oilers still have to win.

So we're not going to have any odds up,

but it will be oilers ducks

with the oilers having a home ice.

And then,

what,

kings against the

avalanche.

Those teams are going to, I mean,

but sorry.

Joe, what's the line for the abs against the kings?

Like,

like,

why were they against a crack in a few years ago?

Like, they're lost.

No, they, they,

they weren't nearly as big.

The average weren't nearly as good.

They're going to be like minus 400 minus.

No, the one I'm,

one I'm thinking of is when we won the cup.

They're minus 800 minus 900 against the predators.

I think it's going to be like that.

No, I mean,

the one I always go back to is the,

the Bruins versus Panthers.

The, I've got to go.

Oh, no, March is lagging.

He's lagging.

What were they doing?

I can't recall if that was,

but I mean, if my 400.

Yeah, I think that's,

that's like as high as we could get for.

Yeah, we're really,

a lot of mys for honor.

Yeah, I, I think I think for the ducks.

I hate that it's not, not up yet.

Like I hate that there's no like hypothetical series up.

Like right now because like NFL,

you have the hypothetical Super Bowl

before the conference conference championship games.

Like there weren't that many combinations

in the Western conference,

but I'm sure by the time you guys listen to this,

those are out and we will discuss them on the Friday night show.

Things are absolute trash.

I was giving my ass 800.

I don't think you're late.

If it's not, I'll make it my 100.

You're going to lay the games.

I know, I'm just going to.

Yeah, I love everything.

Everything.

What's the series spread going to be?

Let's see here.

Let's see here.

We're going to turn it into a game.

Let's see here,

because on Fandall,

lightning or minus 260,

series spread minus one and a half is minus one 13.

Like is minus one and a half going to be like minus one 75 or higher?

At least higher.

I was looking for something like that against a ducks

and I was really excited to lay it with the abs.

Like whatever the one and a half was.

Oh, yeah, I think it's right or the ducks pretty well as well.

Yeah, yeah.

I think that series could be really weird.

The 10 goal 10 goal.

Oh, yeah, prop.

Yeah, that's a good one there.

That's a good one.

But that players in that one too,

to score two plus three plus goals, Patrick.

Matthew Savoy is going to be a good bet I think

after he had a hat trick tonight.

A trend for Edrick got going today.

So guys.

Zach Karnin is healthy again.

So he's got like, he's lost from the playoffs as well.

I suppose you spent your average boot sharp.

We're off for all your added two.

We're trying tomorrow.

We're going to have to leave tomorrow.

No, big serious.

That was actually legitimate.

That's like this story.

No, it is.

All right.

Anything else here before we close it out?

That's too bad.

We don't have any more lives.

Yeah, that's what I said.

We're going to be taught.

Yeah, I had to walk away.

I couldn't hear what you were saying.

It was like poisonous to my ears.

No, that Joe was making a joke.

It was a good one.

Our excuse and you should go back in that.

I think it would help you.

Yeah, but we're going to be talking a lot to each other

in the over the next few weeks here.

We did a show last night.

We did a show tonight.

And we're doing a show tomorrow.

Probably we'll do a show like Sunday or something here.

If not, we'll back on Monday for the game ones.

But yeah, subscribe everywhere.

We'll be back Friday night.

1030, likely start time for that one.

Chase, thanks for joining us.

Where can the people find you on socials or in the discord?

What did anything to plug you got?

Please do.

Twitter, if you're interested in some South Florida sports junk,

when I get a little bit too drunk on the day.

Chase saw 52.

Nothing else on that, but yep.

Thank you guys for having me on.

Looking forward to you out tomorrow.

Deep bad discord.

So those boys as well.

I always have some fun arguments in there.

I just checked out your Twitter here.

And your most recent retweet is someone saying,

if Kutraff was American or Canadian,

he'd be the most talked about in top to the player in the NHL for the last day.

Yeah?

100%.

That's me pumping the numbers for the Kutraff plus that.

That's unfortunately the propaganda.

That's your propaganda.

I appreciate the propaganda.

That's your Twitter propaganda.

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