NHL TRADE DEADLINE: Chicago Blackhawks Trades, Rumors & Live Reactions | CHGO Blackhawks

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Thanks everybody for being with us, a somewhat busy day in the NHL, nothing too, too crazy yet.

But we're going to be on as the Deadline passes and on for an hour after for a reaction.

We're also going to go to the UC tonight for the game, Kyle Davidson will speak some will post that on our YouTube.

Lots to come on which should be a very busy day in the NHL.

But we should start right away.

Nick Felino has been traded to the Minnesota wild for future considerations, gets to go wrap up this season and potentially his career with his brother Marcus, which is cool to see.

Yeah, I think this was something that we talked about yesterday after Nick talked in the locker room.

It really kind of felt like a guy closing the book on his time in Chicago and didn't know if it would be last night or

if it would happen today, but I'll say get into the ring, walked in and looked down the hall and outside the

locker room was Nick in his base layer gear, but he was on the phone and he was talking and laughing a bit.

So I thought that was interesting and then yeah, about maybe almost an hour later, he was officially traded to the wild.

And you know, it's it's sad to see him go.

I know we've got to know him as a group through him being on the show with us and we talked to him after practice yesterday and just kind of said,

hey, like if something does happen, thanks for everything and getting to know him and everything like that.

So it is sad to see him go, but it is a it is a good move by Cal Davidson and the Black Hawks to give him that opportunity to try and you know,

if this is it, try and go one last Stanley Cup run, do it with your brother in Minnesota.

Like that's a very good team.

So yeah, it's it's it's as Cal Davidson said in his statement, it is better sweet, but it is kind of that.

So yeah, it's like turning a page to the next chapter for the Hawks and this is just part of it.

Yeah, I mean, it heading into the trade deadline.

Beginning of the year, I didn't think there'd be a way that.

I didn't think for Lena would get traded.

I think I thought he would, you know, want to play it out.

All those things and then the way the year started is like, oh, this team's going to be competitive.

So, you know, keep everything together.

See what happens after the Olympic break, but then it became pretty clear that, you know, he was going to want something more.

And he's earned that right.

And before the trade, you know, last week or so, the only things that made sense, he wasn't going to go anywhere just to go somewhere.

Like he wasn't going to go to Carolina or, you know, and I'm it is going to be something.

The obvious choices to me were, you know, the Boston Bruins.

He's got a relationship there, but they're not really adding anybody right now.

Don't seem like it.

And then the Columbus Blue Jackets, of course, he was there for a long time.

They're captain too.

And then Minnesota with his brother.

And then once Columbus acquired.

Connor Garland last night.

Yeah.

It became pretty, you know, I felt, well, there goes that door.

So if he's going to get moved, Minnesota makes the most sense.

And, you know, that's Kyle Davidson taking care of a guy that came here.

Did, took on a tough role for a guy that's his part of his career.

A guy that's never want to stay on the cup.

But here, spend the last three years of your career being the captain of a team that's not going to win anything.

Yeah.

And laid a foundation for a team that will reap the benefits of it long after you're done playing.

Like that's not a role a lot of guys would cheerfully take on as he did.

So kudos to him.

And then, you know, Davidson taking care of him, sending him to the wild for essentially nothing.

Just so we can have that, you know, run with his brother on a very good hockey team.

One of the top three or four teams that have a shot to win the Stanley Cup.

Yeah.

If they were in any other division, they'd probably be my pick to make the Stanley Cup final.

But good luck coming out of the central.

But those types of things go a long way.

Yeah.

I think so.

I think though I said this a couple weeks ago, but I want to reiterate it now.

I mean, now that Felino is gone, now that Murphy is gone, I think the days of doing favors to guys that the trade line is over.

Now it's time to start maximizing because there's no one else on this roster that you owe a favor to.

I'm sorry.

And if it comes up next year for table or Bertuzzi, no, those guys still have a lot of good hockey in them.

And they've not been here for a decade, right?

They're paid accordingly.

If you decide to move on from those guys, because you got more kids coming up, you maximize the return.

The favors are done.

You did it for Maroon, you did it for Martinez, you did it for Murphy to a lesser extent.

You're doing it for Felino for sure.

All those guys, I'm cool with it.

But now it's go time, right?

Next year, it's going to be a really young team.

But the parts of your counting on this team to be key pieces when the rebuild is over and you're contending,

they're almost all going to be here next year.

So it's time to start ramping into that next phase of the rebuild.

All the courtesy's now are gone.

Now it is time to do what is best for the organization and what's best for the team.

Yeah, I mean, you don't really have those guys that you'd say like, oh yeah, it's definitely a guy that you sell at the deadline.

I think we all have hopes and optimism that this team's not in a position to sell off everything at the deadline next year.

We've heard from Conradard multiple times say that this trade deadline is motivation to not be in this position again.

And a lot of that is going to come down to how the team performs and how they get there.

I think Kyle Davidson would prefer with the guys he's got on the roster right now.

And the guys you look at going into next season, who's going to be around, who's going to be the key players and key pieces to the lineup.

It doesn't really have anybody that you're just like, yo, he's a spot filler for a couple of months and then come next March, they're gone.

I think that they're going to try and make this group as competitive as possible with the guys that they're bringing in internally.

It's a lot of the young guys. It's a lot of the guys that you build with for the future.

So, yeah, I don't expect them to be fire sale at the deadline next year.

Tavos on an expiring deal at that point.

I don't envision them moving Tyler Bertuzzi at all.

Seems like Jeff Blatt has a favorite guy.

So, and you know how he's played this year has been a big bounce back from what we saw with him last year.

The consistency with Bertuzzi, the effort he's put in, the impact he's had on the young guys in the room.

Like, there's a lot of glowing reviews from him from teammates.

So, I don't foresee them getting rid of Tyler Bertuzzi.

So, yeah, I mean, I think it's, unless you bring anybody in through a trade or free agency, trade in the next 50 minutes or whatever or free agency or anything like that over the off season where it's a one year deal or something like that.

They don't really have anybody that's going to be like a big trade bait piece really going into next year.

Like, it's basically all guys that you want to use and move forward with all the young players.

A little bit of news here, David Pagnota from the fourth period reporting.

The Hawks and Rangers are working on a trade for Derek Pouliott, 32 year old defenseman.

If that goes down, you'll be the Hawks and Rangers.

You mean the Wolfpack?

That is an AHL trade because the Hawks are going to have basically everybody but Kevin Courtsinski at the NHL level.

So, they need help defensively instead of a bunch of ECHL guys coming up for the ice hogs here.

So, that's a minor league move, nothing to worry about there.

He's not going to take ice time away from any young players or anyone that's already on the team.

So, don't sweat that one.

He's already ahead of Courtsinski on the death.

And then, league-wide, the latest big trade looks like Braden Shen, the captain of the Blues, will be heading to the New York Islanders per various sources.

Don't know what the return is, but Braden Shen looks like he's on his way to the aisle.

Good for him.

And see, look at Kyle Davis and starting trends.

Obviously, everybody is trading their captain away.

Yeah, exactly, exactly.

Why don't we hear from Jeff Flashle?

He spoke to the media literally moments after the Nick Flino news broke.

Here he is, I guess, during the morning's game today.

It's kind of along the lines of what I was asking you yesterday.

I mean, just how tough are these next couple hours and, you know, for you for players who are waiting to find out what's happening?

Yeah, I mean, you know, we just kind of go about our business.

I think both us and players, I mean, it certainly would be harder than a player who's not sure.

You know, I get that for sure.

For us, we're just, you know, I spent time in the American League.

It's like the American League where you're just going to be flexible leading into your lineup.

And right now, everybody's coming to the ring ready to play.

And then we go from there.

So, you know, it doesn't really change necessarily our preparation.

It's certainly harder on players that would be potentially involved.

Do you have anything to announce right now?

Do you see any...

Yeah, it's not fair.

And so Nick Fellino is going to the Minnesota, so that's a, you know, a big one, obviously.

I'm one I'm happy for him.

As I said, yes, I wish we were 10 points in and none of this happens, but we're not.

And for an opportunity to go and play with your brother, be part of something with your brother, I got a brother.

And it'd be an unbelievable thing.

And so I know, you know, that means a ton to him and his family.

I know how important that is.

You know, and then for me personally, just...

He's been awesome, awesome for me.

And awesome for this organization.

But for me personally, coming in here this year, having a chance to try to create culture.

And, you know, with the help of Murf and Dickie, you know, Bert.

All our vets, we've just had great pop-up airs that have helped these young guys along.

And Nick certainly let us in that.

And he's been a great sounding board for me, been around the league a long time.

So when I had things that I wanted to kind of discuss and get a feel for,

from a player's perspective, I could always lean on him.

And he's an outstanding human being, one of the best I've been around.

And so I'll miss him personally, and we'll miss him as a group.

Would you say you're excited to have me at an emotional night from the guys tonight?

Yeah, I mean, you know, emotions, you know, these are all different emotions.

And I also think, again, we talked yesterday about compartmentalizing.

I also think we understand how important every game is here for us to build and get better.

And I think, you know, as I told the group coming out of the break,

we've done a lot of good things to put us in games and situations to win hockey games.

I've been very good, very good defensively.

And that's a big reason why we've been in those spots.

Now we've got to continue to find ways to win, but you can't take steps backwards in those ways

that we've done a good job.

And so to me, that's still our focus.

Any update on who else will have a letter on with Nick now leaving?

Um, um, uh, uh, Todd Virtus, he's going to wear an A.

Um, uh, I just actually, uh, told him that a few minutes ago,

uh, something that I've thought a lot about.

Um, there's other worthy guys and we'll see if we decide to do anything else.

But for right now, Todd is going to wear an A with, uh, Connor.

Um, Todd has earned it big time.

Um, earned it.

You know, he's up, he's up, uh, a great voice in the locker room.

Um, fun to be around.

But most importantly, the way that he's played in his approach,

he's, he's been a great model for winning hockey night and in night out here.

And he's, he cares defensively.

He, he, uh, sacrifices his body.

Um, he does all the little things offensively.

Um, he's been an excellent, excellent example.

I think of what winning hockey looks like.

Yeah, we won't do anything with that, uh, you know,

that'll be, as you know, those are organizational decisions that are big deals

and, uh, certainly won't do anything without the rest of the year.

It's virtuous.

He also had a defacto pop up there.

Is he the one?

Is he the defacto pop up there?

Yeah, he's, you know, I think he, uh, honestly, he's been one of them, you know,

um, you know, I have some other guys.

So like, you know, um, but he's definitely, you know,

somebody that that's going to continue in that role.

We talked about, uh, monjapanian, terrifying.

And yes, either of them will be available.

It's not.

Um, both will be available.

Both will play tonight.

Yeah, both will play tonight.

And Kaiser's Kaiser will play tonight.

Yeah, yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

All right.

That is Jeff Flashall earlier today.

Uh, I guess the big bit of news out of that aside from Nick Filino,

being traded is that Tyler Bertuzzi, where's the A and, uh,

find someone that loves you as much as Jeff Flashall loves Tyler Bertuzzi and vice

versa.

Yeah, that's a, that's a two way relationship, for sure.

So, uh, um, I know people are questioning, oh, only two A's.

I don't think you're required to have three captains.

Um, I'm not sure to be honest with you, but I have to go with three.

I think the logical choice is that Vlasik gets the third one.

Yeah, he wore one earlier.

Yeah, and he's, uh, you know, he's definitely future leadership core

material.

So, uh, you know, I guess that's really all we have to look forward to going

forward, uh, with the way things are.

But, uh, you know, it's, it was kind of weird today, like, talking to

the, you know, the cool things that I think are really, really special and going in

the room afterwards.

It's like, oh, yeah, they're still a game tonight.

Yeah, I know, yeah, I hate that.

Yeah, it is dumb.

Yeah.

I mean, and, you know, Nick Fillion talked about it yesterday, but like, you

have this day, you know, the connox are another team, they're having a

morning skate and there's guys on that roster that might not, you

know, might be jumping out of plane here in an hour.

So, uh, Vander Cain is not playing tonight.

I'm hoping that somebody sneaks him in and gives him a tour of the home locker room, like, hey, you want to come here for half price?

Absolutely, you know, not giving that guy $11 million for the next 100 years.

Yeah, but you got to hit the cap floor, Jay. How else are you going to hit the cap floor?

He's got a soda bloom got traded. Elmer goes from Detroit to Pittsburgh for a third-round pick scared me.

So Elmer, soder bloom. The giant forward from the Red Wings going to the penguins.

There you go. Here he's a blue guy. Oh, glue. I think said blue. I was like, no, oh, glue.

It's a glue. Elmer's glue. Nice. Nice. Nice.

So I went over like a lead balloon.

I like your other went over like a Ferton Church is my favorite one.

I started adopting that myself. Thank you very much.

Uh, some other transaction news.

Uh, Ethan Dalmastro looks like he has been sent to the ice hogs.

Kavakorchesku is sent to the ice hogs yesterday.

And it looks like Aiden Thompson has been recalled by the Blackhawks, which is a...

That's weird. I'm pretty sure the Dalmastro is a paper transaction.

Because you have to be on the HL roster at the deadline if you want to be eligible for the playoffs.

So you have to play a game?

Yeah, I believe you still... I believe that rule is where you have to play at least one game.

Uh, ice hogs do play tonight.

Maybe. Um...

So then when Thompson not be eligible?

Right, that doesn't make a lot of sense.

Yeah, I'm not sure.

Okay.

And if he's coming up, that tells me a forward can't go tonight.

This is just going by the eight child transaction.

Which could be wrong.

Right, so this from puckpedia on March 5th when this...

Yes, sir.

Uh, yesterday.

Says the new CBA includes a restriction on paper transactions.

Players sent down must play a game in the AHL prior to being recalled.

However, there's an exception on deadline day.

Teams can send down and then recall players all on deadline day to make them eligible for the AHL playoffs.

Okay, there you go.

So that's... So only on deadline day, will we see paper transactions?

Yeah, paper transactions.

So then you'd imagine what are the deep hairs today then?

Well, Domastro would be like, it's still...

But he'll...

Domastro would have been scratched.

But he'll still stay up here as the extra difficult.

Okay.

Classic Kaiser...

Or, uh, classic crevier Kaiser...

...Lebcionov...

...Rizlik...

...Rizlik...

...Rizzo.

Okay.

Lebcionov and Renzel were flipped yesterday.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, okay.

Those are your six defecements.

Yeah.

Uh, Derek.

Thompson one is a little strange.

I mean, I don't think he has been added to the ISOGs.

I don't...

I'm the transaction page.

I don't know what the Thompson thing is.

If he's getting called up to play, good for him.

You know, I know that they have like the paper transaction

for playoff eligibility.

Yeah.

I mean, the ISOGs making the playoffs would be...

It's a stretch at this point.

A big time long shot at this point.

Because they can't beat anybody right now.

Because, you know, most of their roster...

Yeah, all the players that they've been banking on are here.

Yeah, well, I mean...

So, Mangy Pani is playing tonight.

Yeah, we talked to him.

Maybe Tevo is not feeling good.

It's not really.

He said Tevo's playing.

Yeah, he said Tevo should be good to go.

Should be good to go.

Um, I mean, you had 12 forwards

and then you added Mangy Pani.

So you heard...

Where's your team?

Is Elian McCabe going then?

Yeah.

Maybe it's...

Maybe in case McCabe's going,

they've got a body they can play.

Could be.

It's good.

I mean, good for Thompson.

He's played really well the last couple of weeks in Rockford.

He's...

Him and Gavin Hayes have taken full advantage

of getting extra playing time

with so many guys coming up to Chicago.

Um, so I think Gavin Hayes has played himself

into a second contract with the organization.

And why not?

Um, and...

And Aiden Thompson, you know, the other night,

last weekend or the weekend before, you know,

Jared Nightingale, that said,

he just played his best game as a professional

and didn't have a point in that game, by the way.

So it wasn't like...

Oh, he had a hat trick.

That was great.

No, he was doing a lot of those little things.

So, um...

I mean, see what happens.

My thought was, like, if you were bringing somebody up,

um, wouldn't it be Lardis?

Unless you're...

Well, unless it's like you're saying, like,

it's just maybe an insurance body

just to have an extra guy around, rather than...

Right, yeah.

He'd rather have him play tonight in Rockford.

And if high socks are playing tonight,

you'd probably want Lardis to play in that game.

Sure.

As opposed to, you know,

if he has to come up here

and got, you know, some miracle,

you make the playoffs, you know,

and Lardis isn't on the roster.

Or it could be just a complete typo

on the eight-hour transaction.

Yeah.

We've wasted three hours of air time

talking about something that doesn't happen.

Yeah, which will be the first time that hasn't happened before.

Yeah.

Yeah, well, just interesting to kind of see.

It's always an interesting day

with all the movement

that is happening today.

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And it is the NHL.

So I think it's just one old lady at a rotary phone.

Hello.

Well, the facts machine could be at June.

Yeah.

Is it the maybe Mike Northnose lady?

Yeah, it could be.

Yes.

Boy, she's got to be long dead.

In the meantime, why don't we hear

from Blackhawks' alternate captain,

Connor Bedard, who spoke moments

after the Nick Flinot trade was announced.

You want to be friends with me?

Yeah, similar.

No.

Thank you.

Thank you.

He came and embraced such role

as well with us.

Especially, you know, with Benzio

and Eddie Youngman last year,

we've had more older guys

with this series.

And he's 15, 20 years old.

Yeah, just some of them

that they meant to us in the group.

Obviously, I agree with the folks with them.

So I mean, like I said,

it's tough.

And it's sad when you guys

motivate you to not be in the spot

when you deal with that.

But yeah, I'm just kind of waiting

for you guys that are super important to the room

and I know myself

and everyone has most of the relationships with all of them.

It's hard.

Yeah, it's hard.

But it's how do we do it?

What do you take

when you get on that leadership plan,

especially issues,

kind of put up in the ranks here on that trip?

Yeah.

I think, obviously, I agree with you

guys, myself, but you know,

that he's someone that's more happy for everyone

else than he is from self.

And I think, you know,

that's infectious.

And I think, you know,

our whole room's like that.

It's a big part of that.

That's kind of how you deal with it.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I guess they have family.

Everyone wants each other to do so well.

And we all are fighting for each other every day.

So he's someone that exemplifies that.

But at the end of the day,

I'm definitely going to find a guy to be around.

I'm going to go to dinner with,

sort of tell us,

play many things with kids, you know,

stuff like that.

So it's going to be,

it's going to be weird for you.

You're going to see him in a better way.

Yeah.

I know everybody could just tell us about that.

No, that's going to be weird for sure,

but I wouldn't say it in front of you.

Like, he talks about playing with his brother,

and obviously, I have to get to him

in a better way.

Like, I don't have a brother,

but I know he has to do that.

He grew up, you know,

like I said,

by many say,

so then hopefully,

I'm saying to him,

I'm happy.

But I'm obviously going to say

that this security has to do that.

It's based off of all of himself.

That's going to be really cool,

but he's,

I think he's going to go

a lot with the most crazy things.

I don't know.

I don't remember it probably.

I'm sorry.

I'm sorry.

Yeah, I think, you know,

the way it plays is,

you know,

it shows that,

you know, way it competes

and it battles on plots.

You know, that's,

he's one of the best I've ever seen in it,

and some of that,

kind of never gives up on a split,

so, you know,

you just watch them,

and you want to do so many things,

so I think that's,

that's a big part of what he does.

I mean, obviously,

it's so good,

that's one of those players,

so, you know,

it's going to be great.

You could sense it,

that wearing a letter

doesn't change anything about,

it was a person,

but especially when Nick gone,

like,

are you going to try to,

you know,

take, you know,

be a little bit more of a leader

while still being genuine

to yourself the rest of the way?

I think my genuine self is a leader,

so I'm not really good at it.

Like I said,

I'm going to change,

it would be weird if I just

started getting speedy

and stuffy.

You know,

it's not, so I am,

especially this stage

in my life,

knowing me,

obviously, you get more goals

as you go on,

but,

I'm not,

like a mute,

or anything at all,

but,

I think he, obviously,

was the biggest role

of that,

and,

is probably

the lightest voice in our room,

so,

it's just an opportunity

for everyone to

take it all in that sense,

and, you know,

I think it's just a collective

of the 20 plus guys

that we have,

that are going to fill

the voids that we lost,

so,

it's not an exciting opportunity

because it loses a lot of great people,

but,

it's an opportunity

for everyone to grow

and,

in every sense,

obviously,

it's obvious

that somewhere

that is kind of,

sorry,

sorry.

All right, that is kind of

dark.

We do have a trade

to announce,

Per Scott Powers

and others,

the Derek Pouliot trade,

is 4-8 in Thompson,

so,

that's the deal.

That's why,

You did raise

three minutes of

your time.

Yes,

nothing.

Aint Thompson was

recalled on a paper transaction,

so,

he could be traded

to the Rangers

for Derek Pouliot.

Pouliot will

go to Rockford

and,

Pouliot will

go to Rockford.

That's a sad to see

a young forward go

in Thompson,

but,

I think,

as we've kind of had

discussions about,

you know,

the guys coming in

to this group

in the next few weeks,

in the next year or two,

he's likely going

to be

leapfrogged

in the

depth chart

as far as the forwards go

with, you know,

Fran Dell

and Bovair

and Vanacker

and Spellis

and all these guys

coming around.

So, hopefully,

it's a good opportunity

with the Rangers'

organization.

And, yeah,

you bring in Pouliot.

It's a veteran.

Someone

that's going to,

at least give you

a lot of experience

and someone

who's played in the NHL

before,

for the ice hogs

to lean on,

to end the season.

Yeah, it's, you know,

Aiden Thompson,

you know,

a nice little energy player.

And now he gets to go

to the Rangers

who are, you know,

kind of figuring things out.

And there might be

a easier path

to the NHL there.

I mean, I would think

if they were smart,

they'd have a new

general manager in there

shortly after this season

ends.

But as somebody

who, you know,

can't stand the Rangers,

I hope

Christianry's GM

for life.

But, I mean, they're

moving out some veterans.

They're, they're

shuffling the chairs

on the deck there.

And he,

they might move

Trollcheck,

they might not.

Yeah.

And there's probably

a better shot at him

getting a look at the NHL

for the Rangers

and with the Blackhawks

because there's just too

many guys that are going

to jump ahead at him

and the organization

will start the second

they turn pro.

And they had enough

to look at him this season

to kind of, you know,

they prioritize,

okay, we need a defenseman.

Veteran defenseman more

is more valuable

to us right now than

a long shot NHLer.

Yeah.

And that's, you know,

I think one thing, you know,

I think it can be

frustrating for people to say,

well, he's still young

and he hasn't gotten a

chance yet.

This team is, is what I,

one of the things we're

kind of learning about

Kyle Davidson is that

if he thinks the guys

kind of not going to pan out,

he's not, you know,

hold on to him just to be

right in Thompson's

also 24.

Right.

He's not had a chance now.

He's not going to get

a, he's not going to get one

down the road.

And I think it's

four is old.

But like, no, sure.

When you're talking

about how many players

are coming in at?

I think we're coming in at

twenty, twenty-one.

Yes, hockey.

I'm pretty sure Jay

told me, because I was

twenty-four.

I was basically thirty-

and I was old.

Well, no, twenty-four is not

old in the grand scheme of

things.

But twenty-four is old when

you're a hockey player or a

hockey show producer.

Right.

Exactly.

Exactly.

Anyway, just sort of

spinning that point, like,

you're starting to wonder

like, what's Kevin

Kortzinski's future and has

this team kind of seen

enough?

Are they not pleased

in Rockford either hockey-wise or physically, like clearly he's been told to get bigger

and hasn't done it.

Clearly he's been told to improve his defense and he apparently has not.

And if Jeff Flashles out on them and they send him back down to Rockford after playing

two games only because Sam Ranzell was sick, is that a guy you could see them punt on?

I don't think that's going to happen today.

No.

But this summer, before they got a resignum, maybe, I don't know, I think that's something

that we got to keep an eye on from Davidson, but these little things where it's a young

guy and we're moving on from them, I kind of like that it's not, oh, we got to keep

every little young piece we can just because we're young and just because they play in

Rockford.

That hasn't been the case.

Yeah.

Yeah, I mean, you have a short time to kind of figure out where some of these guys

stand in the organization and, you know, for a guy like Hortensky, he's been playing

pro.

Now, this is his third full season playing pro.

So yeah, you just, you've got to figure out where some of these guys are going to be

because you got guys coming in that, you know, Roman Cancerov is going to be a NHL rookie,

but he's played what six pro seasons or something like that over in the KHL.

Undells played a few pro seasons and he'll come over as a NHL rookie like, you know,

it's, you're going to find out quickly like where some of these guys that are going to

come in and be quote unquote rookies are going to be at pretty fast.

So I mean, it's, I'm still not out on Kortensky.

I wouldn't be.

I hope the organization isn't because as we point to a lot, Duncan Keith was 22, his

rookie year in the NHL before he became a Black Hawk and he took extra years.

To fully develop and time in the NHL and everything like that.

So at Kortensky at 21 soon to be 22, if he's not already 22, I guess I wouldn't be out

on him, but who knows?

Yeah, I agree.

I wouldn't be out on him, but I need some sort of answer here soon.

Like I would have thought this little stretch here post counter Murphy era would have

been the perfect chance to give him a runway and let him, you know, figure it out.

We just, it's apparently not going to happen right now.

It might still by the time, you know, if Rockford gets to a point where they're like,

yeah, we're out of the playoffs.

What's the point?

Call him up.

But the decision needs to be made.

There's still plenty of time.

He's still very young, but I get there's frustration because we haven't seen a lot of progression.

We haven't seen what you wanted to see over the course of three full professional seasons.

You wanted him to be in the NHL at this point.

You would think, yeah, but, you know, some guys have, you know, as we've said many, many times,

since this all started progression development.

It's not linear.

It's there's no handle on it.

Some guys look, look at, look at Dernrattish for, for instance.

Yeah.

That guy was in the NHL for a decade and then boom, it finally clicked.

So, you know, I mean, Gustav Forzling too is another one.

Yeah.

That guy was, you know, traded twice and claimed on waivers.

And he was, when he played in Chicago, he was fine.

Right.

And when he played in Carolina, he was fine.

And there was no indication he was going to become what he became in Florida.

Yes.

We technically never played in Carolina.

He played in the organization.

Yeah.

Never played in NHL game for the Hurricanes before they played small waivers.

So, yeah, like some guys take a long time.

Do you want the seventh overall draft pick of a draft to take seven years becoming it?

No, you don't.

And you probably don't have the luxury of waiting that long for him.

So, you know, you need something, you even need to see something by the end of this year

to have confidence that next year's training camp is going to be different for him.

Or you need to make that decision and you use him as a part of a trade this off season

to get yourself, you know, another, you know, NHL piece if you can.

Like, you don't want to, if you are going to trade him, you don't want to wait to his

value is nothing.

Yeah.

Right.

Well, I, I'd imagine his value is not very great right now.

No, it's not very great right now.

He hasn't really been in the NHL.

But it could get lower.

That's just true.

So, yeah, I would, I would like to see some sort of, you know, not decision, but just at

least a better idea of what the future lies for him.

Yeah.

Yeah, they're going to have to get an answer there.

Let's recap some of the league wide trades they will go from most recent to least recent.

Carolina acquires Nick DeLaurier from the Flyers for a conditional seventh round pick in the

2027 NHL drive.

I like the conditional seventh round pick.

You got to make sure you get the most value out of your seventh round pick.

The, we mentioned this earlier, the Penguins acquired Almer Soderbloom from the Red Wings

for a third round pick this year.

The Lightning Gkory Perry for a second from LA.

I don't, that's weird, but okay, I don't know what the Kings are doing.

They don't know what they, yeah, it's, it's welcome to Ken Holland.

I know the Fiala thing kind of screwed everything if they got Pinaran, but now you're, whatever.

The Panthers got Vinnie Hennestrozer from the Wilde right after the Fulino trade.

And this trade, I like this morning, the Flyers traded Bobby Brink to the Wilde for David

Yurasek.

Is this a third, second time Yurasek spent trading?

He's on his third team in I think four seasons after being the sixth overall.

Yeah.

Right.

Bobby Brink's a nice little player.

The pick that went to Columbus for the Seth Jones trade, was that the sixth pick?

No, no, no, I thought it was.

They got Cole Cylindry with the Seth Jones.

Oh, right.

Yeah, that's right, you're right, you're right, you're right.

Okay.

But I like Bobby Brink for the wild, it kind of fits what they do there.

And that would be like, if we're looking at the kind of player you'd like the Hawks to

see maybe get today, a 24 year old with some NHL success under him.

But you know, he wasn't really on my radar until he was traded by the Flyers, because I

was surprised the Flyers traded him, but he'll fit it nicely with the wild.

And then the big trade of the day, the Bruins acquired Alexis Gendron and Massimo Rizzo

for the Flyers for Brett Harrison and Jackson Edward Geyser thoughts.

I mean, Stanley Cup or Boston Boston would trade like that.

I found it hilarious that I found it hilarious that the Flyers would big caps on their announcement

of that.

You know, it's 11 30 on trade deadline and you would out trade alert and you would alert

for names that sound made up for the rent we generated NHL 2K eight guys.

Yeah, like the guys if you got in the hut, you immediately just throw away records.

Also, too, while we were all sleeping, John Carlson to the Anaheim Ducks in our Garland

went to Columbus 17 years in Washington for John Carlson.

That surprised me while you're asleep, you're gone.

Thanks, buddy.

Literally.

He was asleep.

Yeah.

You know, wild.

I know they haven't been great out of the break, but the caps were four or five points

out of a playoff spot.

And it's maybe Alex Ovechkin's last season and you basically waved the white flag.

You get you trading it down and you trade John Carlson when you're in striking distance.

Four points out, but each team ahead of them has at least two games in hand.

Yeah, I mean, it's not it's going to be tough, but I mean, that has to be a hard conversation

to have with a guy like Ovechkin, like, hey, this might be my last NHL year and we're

not even going to try like it's, yeah, it's a surprising, it's the right move, big picture

for that team.

It's the absolutely correct move.

That's a, that's a hard move to make.

They've got to know that this is Ovechkin's last year, probably.

And before teams say, oh, wow, look at the capstone.

We're going to be desperate selling off everybody and getting pennies on a dollar.

They kind of acted quickly on that and got a nice return for John Carlson.

So that's good general managing.

I mean, it's a, it's a painful move.

You hate to trade a franchise icon, but if you can get good value for him, you kind of

owe it to your franchise to do it because they've been just kind of placating the Ovechkin

things for years, which they should have.

Don't get me wrong.

You've got Alex Ovechkin.

You're not going to rebuild without Alex Ovechkin on your roster.

That's stupid.

But now that it seems like his, he's done.

He's been spending time in the fourth line this year.

He's just not the same guy.

He doesn't play three on three anymore.

He just, he's just a ghost of what he used to be.

He got his record.

You got your Stanley couple.

But now the rebuild has to begin in earnest and you get a first round pick and a third

round pick for John Carlson.

So that's, that's a nice first step and kind of rebuilding the capitals because they have

a ton of work to do and they might be one of the teams that kind of falls into footsteps

to the black ox here and just go scorched earth on the whole thing.

I liked Dom Lissitian's idea.

Trade Ovechkin to the penguins have him, have him go on one final run in the NHL.

Crosby Malkin and Ovechkin Malkin and Crosby and all man.

Well, you'd have to wait for a rehab to be done and a suspension to be over before

you had that.

I would be fine.

I think that would be wild.

Yeah, they, it won't happen.

Apparently, according to Darren Dregor, by the way, the Blues are getting a first round

pick, a third round pick, and a prospect for brain sheds.

That's a pretty nice, that's a pretty nice, I think he still has some term if I'm not

mistaken.

Well, they're, I mean, clearly the Blues are setting their prices high because as they

should.

Well, maybe he's got two years, lots of six and a half.

Yeah, it's the same.

Most of these guys that he's, they're shopping have, are under contract.

Thomas is locked up.

Robert Thomas.

Yeah, Kyle and Thomas are through 29 and three.

Perreiko has what, four more years.

Yeah, but he's not going.

Right.

Well, not now, but yeah, he said he's not accepting a trade anywhere.

Right.

And now, maybe in the summer, you get him to, you know, if all the, the Robert Thomas

has gone to, and he looks and he's like, well, okay, yeah, let's, let's, let's get me

somewhere else.

Maybe.

Um, I just don't know where the Blues go.

Well, I mean, you can, you can hang on all these guys, but right in the lumber yard.

They're just going to be, they're going to be mid forever.

Like, okay, say you keep Kyle and Thomas strong, though, he's really good for that.

He's really good.

Yeah, I mean, if you're, if you're, if you're going to trade off everything, it, you

know, it'd be Thomas, Kyru, your, your, you are moving Shen, move Bennington, like

completely completely, uh, you definitely have pieces to get you a lot of draft capital

back to start the rebuild process, but, you know, St. Louis is a town you can get away

with that because, you know, as we see with the Cardinals, as we see with the Blues,

they only show up when they're good.

Yeah, just have unlimited concessions of the Blues games, right?

Like the Cardinals are doing.

That's such a great deal, though.

It is a great deal.

We thought to go see a baseball game and get all that.

Right.

It's a great deal, but you would have thought if you had the best fan base in all the

baseball, you wouldn't need to bribe them with free food to come out and watch your

crappy team.

Sure.

Yeah.

Best fans in baseball, asterisk, when they're good.

Right.

That's it.

We've got to get too Chloe.

Uh, you have not been done a good job of keeping track of that.

Yes.

Uh, Robbie Frazier, five euros, I don't know what that symbol is.

I think it's euros.

Oh, I'm so excited.

I believe.

All right.

Why trade for defense when John Merrill and Mark Edward Vlasik are in free agency?

Yeah.

It's the Rockford thing.

He's referring to the.

Oh, yeah.

Directly out trade.

Yeah.

They're, they're not adding to the NHL roster.

Um, and I will say I think John Merrill and Mark Edward Vlasik are free agents for a reason.

Their best days are long behind them.

Yeah.

And if, and if, either of those guys were willing to play for an NHL team, they would have

done it by now.

Yeah.

They're not going to sit out the whole year to come back to get 18 games with the Rockford

ice hockey.

Right.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yep.

All right.

We are just under 15 minutes away from the deadline.

And everyone's sort of predicting that, oh, business is going to pick up here and it really

has not.

It is better.

I don't know.

We'll get those.

We'll get those.

Yeah.

In about 10 minutes, we're going to get about eight trades coming through.

Yeah.

215, 215.

All of a sudden, this guy's here and this guy's here.

So yeah, it, you know, we still got Mikaev and, um, Grizzlic are still black hawks as

of this minute.

Yeah.

Well, we'll see what happens there.

In the meantime, we are going to see a new black hawk, Mika's debut tonight, uh, Andrew

Mangio Pani got here.

I think you said midnight or 1 a.m.

This morning was on the ice for the optional morning skate and we'll be in the line

up tonight.

What's here from the newest black hawks, Winger, good old number 26 Andrew Mangio Pani.

Can you start with these guys and we're going to see them?

Yeah, it's exciting.

Um, you know, I'm excited to be here, uh, great franchise, original 16.

So it's exciting right to, um, obviously, um, you see, I've had a lot of good players

here.

So hopefully just to come in and just help play my game and, um, help us team win.

I know it's a different situation.

You know, you've got to be excited just to get 1 minute and play again.

Yeah, for sure.

Right?

It was a little, uh, tough, uh, guys sledding there and having it in, so I just happy to,

you know, get out and, uh, have a nice, uh, restart and, uh, be with a, you know, good

organization, good team here and guys and group seem great and, uh, everybody's been

welcoming.

Yeah.

So it's an exciting feeling.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah, yeah.

It was, uh, for maybe, maybe been the first text I got, but I think anything off limits.

Well, but with, uh, 26 year, uh, had it in, uh, minor leagues in, uh, in junior, right?

So, uh, familiar with numbers, uh, well, to be honest, uh, side of the comfort art instead

of facing it.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Obviously.

Yeah, he's a good player and, um, yeah, he's special, right?

So it's like together, uh, a world a couple of years back, so it was my kind of first

time in him and, um, kind of playing with him and seeing what he can do.

So he's a real special player and, um, yeah, everybody, uh, we need to get in and

do the chance to talk to the coaches yet about what to expect tonight.

Yeah.

Go ahead and, uh, basically 12 1 a.m., uh, there's not really much flights that have, uh,

admittance, uh, a little tough to get out, right?

So, but, um, it's been good, it's, it's easy flight and, um, yeah, and, uh, as far as

approach, uh, yeah, we've talked and, um, yeah, you just told me to go out there and

play a game and, and, uh, be who I am and, uh, and do what, uh, makes me successful.

How would you describe your day when you are successful?

Yeah, I think, uh, I think, uh, going with the meme with my feet and, um, playing fast,

being tenacious, starting on pugs, being in, and around the pugs, being around in that,

you know, not shying away, giving a hit, just kind of being involved in kind of all those

little aspects I think helps, helps fuel, fuel my game and, um, that's when, uh, you're

in, uh, score goals, make plays, and, uh, get chances, and, um, I think it just stems

from me being hardworking and, um, nature school, um, my feet be at our heart, I guess.

All right, that is, uh, Gary Seney slash Andrew Mangiappani, the newest black hawk.

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hit it too many times. Use all your accounts. That counts. We appreciate that. Here's

some. Yeah. What do you got? Tole from Anthony Demarco. Told the flyers are not moving

Rasmus Bristol line. Okay. That was a big defensive name that was out there. Apparently

not on the move. Did not get their price met. Here's a fun. He's got a year left at 5.1.

So that's like that next year. It's a deadline that you can get a huge return for him or

this off season. Yeah. Finds out what still don't really understand what the flyers are

trying to do. Yeah. It's kind of a weird. They should trade Mitch Caw's at a hawks. Sure.

We'll get him in. We'll get him in shape. Yeah. Can some of what Mitch Caw has go to

Kurchinsky? Yeah. It's like balance them together. Exactly. Weights. Yeah. We're going to say

a fun tweet from Andy Strickland who covers the blues. Apparently the islanders and blues

are currently staying at the same hotel in San Jose as they made the bridge. Oh, no.

Interesting. So he doesn't like he can just hot tub trade. They go. They'll old, you know,

touch on trade machine. Doug Armstrong. And who's the who's the who's the islanders GM

these days? Still Lulamorello. I imagine. No, it's not. Can imagine Lulamorello wearing

a towel in the sauna, trading branch. Matthew Darsha's. That's right. That guy. Yes.

Yes. Yes. Yes. Sit in there. Don't you feel like Lulamorello was just probably under

a desk somewhere like. Can't do that trade. Just the he just will not go away. Will not

go away. Lulamorello. Hey, man, I like to see GM say, you know what? No, you're not

meeting my price. I'm not moving them. A couple of teams though. We talked about the blues

already. The Leafs. What are they? What are they doing? The wheels are stuck in the

top. Make man. They're talking about treating with that finalized. Looks like it's going to

Colorado. But has that did that ever? I haven't seen. I haven't seen officially. But I mean,

they're they don't have a first round pick this year. They're not going to make the playoffs.

They don't have a good prospect pool. And I don't know. I don't you believe in this group of

Matthews and Nielander and Barube and Nyes and all that to get you where you want to go.

Because I don't think it's working. And they were saying they're over the last couple

days. People have been saying that Nyes is available. I don't believe that. I can't believe that.

Yeah, I would because if you're the Leafs and you're really selling, that's a guy you

could see a radically build around. Yeah, right. I don't. He's available. And I'm Kyle Davidson.

I am making a call. I was told Mitch Marner was the problem. I said, well, it's always somebody new.

Apparently, Nick Wah was the problem that couldn't wait to get rid of him. It was first

it was John Tavares. And then that shifted to Nielander for a while. And of course,

it's now it's Matthew's turn. Yeah, now Matthew sucks. That's fine. Yeah, I want.

I don't know. Oh, the Steve Davis shot it us out for the flueno trade.

Cool. Thanks, guys. Let's appreciate it. We had Jesse of that show on for one of the pre-games.

Thanks, guys. I would. Look, if Matthew Nyes is really available, I would assume a

call has been made because you remember Kyle tried to get him. He did. When he tried to,

that trade was done except Bren Chanhan Weisley said we will not be doing that.

Put away. He should have approved it. He should have. But it was not. That was for Mark

Conjurek. Nice for Flurry. Yeah. And I think I think I think I think we still would have gotten

Merazik back probably in that. Yeah, it would think so. Yeah. But yeah, yeah, that would have been

that would have been fun. But yeah, I don't know what the Leafs are going to do.

Don't care. No, I don't. But continue not winning. McMahon,

Edmund Larson and Scott Lawton are the ones that they're thinking would be theoretically

the ones you would move on expiring deals. And McMahon's the only one that you're thinking is

going to be moved because it's been rumored. But I finalized yet. Yeah, they're kind of stuck.

You gave Neelander the contract. Awesome. Matthew's smartly only signed that four-year deal.

That's looking like a really good move now for his sake. Does he hit for agency the same

summer as McDavid? Matthews? 2029. Is that the same mirror? No. McDavid is 2028 summer. Yeah,

because he's got two years after this. Yeah. So, you know, no, it's the same summer. Is it?

2829. That summer, like David and Matthews will could reach unrestrictive for agency.

Wow.

20 million dollars.

I won't have, but just like we thought, you know, last year was going to be dry-sighted.

Oh, yeah. Oh, I can't wait to the summer of 2026. And that's turning out to be a whole lot

of nothing. If you think today is boring, wait till July 1st. I'm not even going to get out of bed.

We're going to need to stop calling these shows frenzies. Yeah, frenzies are dead.

Yeah, it's, yeah, the Leafs got, you know, you're starting to see kind of a shift, you know,

the Leafs who knows what they're doing. The Rangers are kind of stuck in their, you know,

business, you know, what the hell are the kings doing? They you go out and you get

pronouncing and you re-sign them and now you're when you fight your coach. Yeah, I mean, like

and then you trade full goal. Well, that was to make, yeah, you trade full bearing.

Cory Perry. Yeah. But you also acquire who they get that got somebody else too. I mean, they

they added, they traded a way to know earlier this year. I think they signed. They traded,

they signed Matthew Joseph just now. That's something. Yeah, that was going to happen.

I thought they, they, uh, I don't see anything here. Oh, no, no, I was thinking, um,

Fogo was sent to what Ottawa? Ottawa, yeah. And he was there to replace Peron. That's,

that's why I was thinking, like, yeah, Peron went to Detroit. Right. Again. How was that guy still

in the league? Man, I don't know. He just cannot kill David Peron or Vinnie Hennestrow is a

apparently. Yeah, true. Um, so yeah, there's a lot of teams you're starting to see the shift,

if you're seeing teams like Utah, go for it and make big trades. Uh, you're starting to see

the ducks go for it. Make big trades, you know, the Minnesota while they're all in this season.

Yeah. And now you have these other teams that were contenders, you know, coming into the year

that all of a sudden, like, oh, nope. I mean, Florida's going to trade off a couple guys maybe,

but that's not, they're not tearing it down. They're just, you know, taking a, taking a year off.

Um, there was a lot of smoke around Nebraska getting traded. I don't think that's going to happen. I

don't feel like it. Um, but it wasn't. The big, the Marshan move was well after the deadline.

Marshan was at the deadline. Yeah. Yeah. Like they just got it done. By the way, Jeremy Rutherford

who covers the blues for the athletic says I don't think the blues are done. Still a possibility

of moving Falk. Perhaps Detroit. They got a minute and a half to do it. Yeah. I mean, but Detroit's

been trying to make it. I like to try to finish in second place again. You know, they are the,

they are the, they are the home of the Bart Simpson, the least you tried kick-gift. Uh, you know,

Tyler Myers says thanks, but no thanks. You know, but news. Yeah. Oh, we were right there.

They're right there. Oh, we tried. We tried for, we tried for Vincent Trocheck. Oh, I just couldn't

get it done. Um, yeah. I mean, they've been the last couple of years. They've been the perennial,

you know, bridesmaid. That's a shame. Yeah. I mean, you know, so we'll see how they go,

how that goes. I mean, I use them and seems to be a guy that is reluctant to trade. We're just

talking about this with the Hawks. He's reluctant to trade these young guys that he has, you know,

earmarked as the future core of this team. He doesn't want to trade any of those guys.

But you got to play off team this year. At least right now, they're not guaranteed to play

off spot. And if you don't go ahead and try and do something better, you might not be a playoff team.

I, uh, I get where he's coming from because some of the guys, he's got our pretty solid

prospects. So and they've shown something at the NHL level. So I don't know. We'll see. All right,

we are officially over the deadline has just passed the deadline. So we'll see what trickles in.

And this usually goes on for about a half hour or so. Um, so we'll be keeping our eye on

everything going on. We have not gotten the official word. Usually teams will say the general

manager is announced they're done for the day. We all ears are done. Who are done? Oilers. Oh,

they're done. All right. Yeah. Oh, I mean, on trade day. Yes. So we will recap the Black Hawks

trades right now. And this will be our checking out segment presented by our friends. It

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relationships and results matter. Remember FDIC, the first trade the Hawks made was Conor Murphy

to the Edmonton Oilers. They retained 50% of Murphy's salary in return a 20, 28 second round

pick. Next up, Jason Dickinson and Colton doc to the Oilers, another 50% retention on

Dickinson's contract, the Hawks get back Andrew Mangia Pony in a 2027 first round pick that

is top 12 protected. If that pick does land in the top 12, it slides to 2028, unprotected.

Today, the Black Hawks traded Nick Folino to the Minnesota Wild for future considerations. And

the one that just happened, Adon Thompson traded from Rockford to the New York Rangers for Derek

Poolyot. There are your Black Hawks transactions and guys assuming this is done, assuming the Black

Hawks are done dealing here, that means Ilya McKayev is still on the roster. How are we feeling about

that? I'm good with that because he's been really effective for this group. You still need guys

like him to close out this season. Now you go into the rest of the season and you go into the

off season, you have a little bit of time to talk about what you want to do for potentially an

extension. Do you want two years? Do you want three? You got to figure that out and see if he

wants to stick around. I'm completely fine with that. Same with Grizzly, you don't want to go

all children in your defensive group, so keep a guy like that. He's been steady for you this year.

I'm definitely okay with those two guys still sticking around. Similar to what we had with

Denado last year, with McKayev, you can figure out through this off season, what can you do for an

extension? Yeah, I'm okay with that. I want McKayev to come back next year. It kind of

is like mirroring Denado last year where it's like they've probably given him an offer

ahead of the deadline and he's probably, you know, uh, go out. Fine, here's our offer. This is

what we can give you. This is what we're going to give you. Go out and see what else is available

and circle back. And if you know, you get something better, God bless. But right now trading him

for a fourth or fifth round pick just to trade him. Yeah, that doesn't make a lot of sense. If you

lose him for nothing sucks, but it's not the end of the world as opposed to like, if you turn down

like a second round pick and you're all right, I'm fine. Okay. If you turn down like a second down

round pick and then you lose them, then you can be pissed. Yeah. If your best offer was like a

conditional fourth round pick, any walks for free agency for something better, it is what it is.

Scott Powers confirming the Black Hawks are done for the day and nothing else coming. So,

yeah, Mikaev is indeed staying. Um, and I think it's the right and Denado treatment for him.

Yeah. See what happened. Go see what's out there. Report back and we'll figure things out. Well,

you know, I like you said, he he wants term. Uh, I think we Mario and I have talked about this

before. Mario's not willing to go beyond two. I would go, I would go three just to just to get him

back. You got to have a little bit of insurance in your forward group in case not all of these

young players pan out or are ready right away. Look, we all thought Frank Nezer was going to start

last season. Like, oh, yeah, that's a that's a done deal. And you needed 20 some games in the HL to

really get ramped up. Um, same with Sam Renzel. There were a lot of assumptions about guys that

were still very high on, of course, but they just weren't quite ready right away. That could be

the case with Frontel. That could be the case with Bovair. That could be the case with cancer off.

We don't know. So it's nice to have a little bit of safety built in your roster. Uh, and look,

guys down the road too, whoever they pick first this year, you know, whatever, I, I'm comfortable

having my cab for a third year if he's willing to accept that. If not, thanks. Enjoy. We appreciate

your time here. They've already for what they got him for. It's already a huge win, even if he

walks for nothing. Yeah. Yeah. I think it's two years as good three and maybe push. And I think

an underrated factor brought bringing them back and is having a Russian speaking player in the room,

not only for, for our election off, but Roman cancer off is going to be here next year.

Strets. Yes. Kind of a, you know, those are two guys you're looking for to be big parts of this

team. So kind of have, you know, a mentor for those guys in the room too. Uh, definitely doesn't hurt.

And I think I know what you were, um, getting giddy about their second ago. Yeah, a couple of

trades have gone through what we were talking about earlier. We've, we were talking about Bobby

McMahon and maybe it was Colorado. It's actually Seattle. Seattle, uh, gets Bobby McMahon for a second

in 2027 and a fourth, uh, round pick this year in 2026. And we were talking about Detroit,

new to figure something out. Justin Falk is going from St. Louis to Detroit for a first and a third.

Oh, that's a steep price. He's still got to wear. He's still got to turn. Yeah, that's true. That's true.

That's, that's, that's, I think that's not giving up one of your NHL ready prospects for him.

I think is a good move. Uh, by the way, speaking of the Kraken, uh, a playoff team who's leading scorer

is Jordan Eberley with 42 points. You're assigned to your extension. Yeah. Today. Yeah. Like that.

It's only because Jared McCann has been hurt. Yeah. But still, I mean, that's, that's

impressive that they're in that position. Well, they were that way two years ago when they made the playoffs.

They were, they were just, you know, a team. They weren't, you know, a top heavy team. They were just,

we've got four lines. Maybe one of them will score on you. Yeah, when you got two gold tenders playing

really well too. That helps. Phillip Gruber is finally living up to the paycheck that he's been

getting in that, that helps a lot. And, uh, you know, Joey Chacour has been real good. And, um,

that's a surprising team. That was a team that, I think a lot of people thought was like,

a team that the black hawks had a chance of jumping over in the standings.

Because they were another team where it was kind of like, uh, we're going to maybe start this

over again. Yeah. That's been working out. That, that great. They move some guys in the off season.

Here they are. Um, three points clear of the sharks for the second wild card spot, but the

sharks have two games in hand on Seattle. Well, now you got the great Bobby McCann. So, I mean,

Stanley Cup, baby. It's coming to Seattle. Yeah, it's, uh,

big man. That's, that's an interesting team, man. I, they're really hard to get a feel for this

the Kraken. Um, they've got a lot of good players. They don't have any great players. Ryan

Strom from Anaheim to Calgary. Got a clear cap space for John Carlson. I don't think now.

Interesting one. Punishment. Emily Kaplan says, yes, there is a backup in the Q

deals still coming through. Yeah, there's, I mean, Justin Hole is going to St. Louis as part of

this part of that trade. Justin Falk deal. So Justin for Justin. Justin Hole, black, uh,

icehog legend. Justin Hole. Yeah, former black hawk. That's he related to board hole.

His father. Really? Wow. Third cousin. That's crazy. Oh, Lord. All right. So the hawks are done.

Hawks are done. Now that we know everything, uh, now that the smoke is cleared and all that

hawks wise, uh, overall grade, uh, for Kyle Davidson, this trade deadline.

I mean, I hate to, I hate to make it sound like it's more than it is. But to me,

I give him an A because he did exactly what he was like, he, he, he wanted to do,

which was create roster opportunities for young players to come through.

Take the next chapter of the black hawks and move it forward. And you did it by doing deals that

benefited the players that were leaving. And you got really good value from, from the coming back.

Felino was doing you the biggest solid possible future considerations to go chase a cup with your

brother in Minnesota. That's, I mean, that works for everybody. Um, you know, if you had said,

if you combine the oilers deals, you move Doc Dickinson and Murphy for a roster player,

a first and a second. I see no problems with that. Yeah, that's, and, and, and if,

if Andrew Monjepani gives you anything, that makes it even, that makes the deal even better.

Because even if you just said you move Doc Dickinson and Murphy for a first and a second,

I'd be like, yeah, that's actually okay. I'm okay with that because, you know, it's not a,

you're not in a spot where you need to necessarily, like, rotate through roster players.

Like all these guys that you're going to be banking on are internal. They're here. They're,

they're graduating from, you know, developing as prospects in, in juniors and college

of stuff to becoming pro is like, that's the next step of the rebuild. I saw some people today

saying like, man, after this trade deadline, it feels like we're just restarting everything.

What do you mean? This is what we've been waiting for. We've been waiting for all these kids to

get here. Now they're here. This is the next step of the, of the rebuild. That's the development

process. This is what we've all been suffering. Yeah. So, so I hate to sound like over

excited for it, but I think you look at the checklist of what he wanted to accomplish,

and I think he did it. If you move, William McKayev, that's a little bit more coming back.

But to, you know, kind of satiate with some of those people who are, you know, knocking Davidson

for how many, how many picks and prospects do you need? Well, yeah, he didn't move, he didn't move

McKayev because he wasn't going to get what he wanted. So you don't need to overload on

stuff like that, just to trade a guy to trade a guy. So I'm very happy with it. I'd give him an A.

I don't care if that makes me sound like a homer, but I just feel like he did what he was supposed to

and what he set out to do. Yeah, I mean, I echo a lot of that. You know, it'll be plus

somewhere in there. Good job. I mean, getting a first and a second round pick for Dickinson and

Murphy and adding Doc in there too. I mean, that's, that's better than I think anybody at, you know,

had expected. I figured if you're going to trade Murphy and Dickinson, if you got two second

round picks for those two guys, that'd be excellent move. So, you know, and then you bring in

Manjapani who can fill in, you know, bottom six veteran role this season, and then you can figure

out what you're going to do with him in the off season. Is he a buyout? Do you flip him somewhere

else? Or does he play good enough to stick around and be your 12th, 13th forward for next season?

You know, he's not making a ton of money. The salary cap is not an issue for this team now. So

see what happens there. Now that it's over with and you see what the market bared and who moved and

who didn't. I was kind of, I knew it was a long shot, but I was kind of hoping maybe he'd make it,

you know, a move like the, like the Bobby Brink move. Or, hey, if Shane Wright is out there, maybe

try and get it someone like that. Someone that fits that, you know, 24, 25-year-old changes

scenery kind of guy that you can fit plug in right here for the remainder of this season.

Give him a 21-game tryout and see what happens, but those guys really weren't available.

Yeah, bring to you when they're dead. Yeah, and that's, you know, I think that's, that is the

wild saying we want Bobby Brink. Yeah. And we're going to give you a pretty high prospect,

whatever you think of your attack. You still, yeah, if you look at Minnesota, like they've traded

away a lot of good young players to go for it this year. We're going to see three of them tonight

on Vancouver in in Booyum, Rossi, and an old Grim is up with the, those are the two guys that

they gave up that they got for Quinn Hughes. So you've traded your two top defensive prospects this

year, the wild, the wild have. So they don't, but they don't care. Bill Guerin doesn't care about

two years from now. He knows he has maybe, you know, he knows he only has two guaranteed seasons

after this with Quinn Hughes. You've got to go for it while he's here. You can't hope he signs

an extension. Right. So he's making the right moves. One of these years, I hope Kyle Davis

and attacks this day like that. That's what I'm waiting for. I'm, I'm hoping this is the last

trade deadline where we're going to sit here saying, wow, I'm glad I couldn't believe we got a

first round pick for that guy. I'm, I'm, I'm moving on from that. Next season, I'm not saying,

next season, you go out and you go for all next year, but next year, there shouldn't be any

trade. Well, you have a lot of draft capital now that is future stuff that, you know,

they got next year's first round pick. Yeah. In the, in the Dickinson deal, the Florida pick

could move to next year. Like you, you have picks that you can use to at the deadline add players

like that. Or throughout the seat, like, like you can, you can use those picks in that, in that

fashion. And when you have so many young players, you're not really going to solve many of those guys

off. So might as well try and add to it if you can. I'm kind of hoping that these future first and

second round draft picks acquired this year are the picks that are used to go out and get NHL

guys 100% to it. Like you can't build a Stanley Cup team with 20 guys you drafted. No,

eventually you have to go out and the trade market is the only way you're going to get

up in their prime superstar player free agency does not exist for superstars anymore in the NHL.

Not for a few years anyway. So you've got to trades the way to do it. So, you know, you've got

extra draft picks that you got this year first and second rounders. Let's use those, you know,

not today, not right away, not probably not even this offseason, but let's start packaging some of

that stuff to get better at the NHL level. And, you know, you have to, Kyle Davis has done a really

good job at laying the foundation down for this rebuild. Still a lot of guys need to pan out,

still a lot of things need to go right, but they are definitely trending in a really good direction.

It's time to stop that phase. It's time to go, okay, yes, the compiling of draft assets and

I'm done. I'm ready. I'm ready to move on from that. Please let this be the last trade deadline.

We're talking about, oh, look at all those great picks, Kyle Davis got next next year.

It's okay if you don't make a trade. You know, next year, Frandel and Cancer Off will be here and

it's not going to be the roster is not going to look a whole lot different. So how it's going to

yeah, the standings might be the same too, but at least it's guys learning at the NHL level as

opposed to you're just riding out veterans just to fill roster spots, which as much as we all love

Nick Flino and Jason Dickinson and Karen Murphy, that's what those guys were here, right? They were

yeah, foundation layers, placeholders, their places are no longer needed. Thank you for your

service. We're going to put you in a position where you can go out and be rewarded by a shot at

the Stanley Cup. All that's great. I'm done with it. Yeah, I'm ready for something else. I'm ready

for the excitement of who who the hawks going to add, you know, and the hawks are going to add

before the season is over. Frandel, Bavaire, we're going to see those guys soon soon by the end of

this month, both those guys should be here. I mean, Bavaire could be here in two weeks. B you

not great. They have to run the table in the hockey East tournament to win, to get to the NCAA

tournament. I don't like their chances. Their season could be over that tournament starts next week.

Yeah, their regular season ends this weekend, and then Wednesday that like he could be here in

a week, a 10 day. Yeah. And he's not a guy that's like, oh my god, the season's going to turn

around, but it's somebody that's excited about it. It's the first round pick. A guy you've

tangible a tangible piece of the future. Right. It's a guy we've been hearing about for two years,

and it's something to be excited about. Frandel is going to cause a lot of excitement. He'll be here

probably by the end of the month, you know, depending on what his his team does. So those are kind

of like your your in season acquisitions, but let's let's have better loftier goals for trade

deadline 2027 where it's like we're fine with what we have or oh, we're gonna we're gonna we're

gonna bring him this rental to try and get to the wild cards box. Yeah, that'd be great. I'm

all here for that. I will give the trade deadline an A as well, and you know, Homer isn't be damn,

but if we went to two weeks ago and said you're getting the first a second and NHL body for

Murphy and Dickinson and Colton Doc, most people would have taken that and ran with it. Yeah,

I know. Magia Pony is not the most exciting name right now, but the Hawks have shown a bit of a

pension for reinvigorating some guys with who are on better teams and lower roles.

Magia Pony has put up points in this league before plays the kind of style that Jeff Flashal loves.

We've seen Jeff Flashal get the best out of Tyler Bertuzzi. Maybe Magia Pony is the kind of guy

that will thrive under his style as well. Maybe. And if not, okay, right? If not, you wave him

or you send him a rockford or he fails a report or whatever, it might be fine. They're not

married to Magia Pony one way or another, but you're getting an active body. I think losing Colton Doc

is not great, but again, is we're projecting not even the next year or two weeks from now.

Where is his spot? Right. He could get a lineup every night. He wasn't consistently in the lineup.

Yeah, so yeah, so fine. And, you know, Flino, you're making him happy. Would have been nice to

get a traffic form, of course, but you're just trying to do right for a guy who really probably had

two, maybe three destinations that he would have taken a trade for. And you're doing the guy

a salad for being a good soldier for as long as he was until the end. I mean, even yesterday,

as much as it sounded like a goodbye, Nick Flino is saying, you know, those competitive juices are

flowing, but I'm here until I'm not. And if I'm still here, I am fully bought in and fully

committed. And he has been from the day he was acquired from Boston, when we were driving down

to Nashville until this morning, he was 100% black hawks. And I'm just happy he gets the opportunity.

What do you guys think this means for him? In turn, by the way, why Kaiser just officially activated,

not a surprise, he will play tonight, but that is that's official trades come through too, but

were you going to make a point about? Does this indicate to you that Nick Flino is retiring after

this year? Yeah, I think so. I mean, it's up to him and he has said how he's felt physically

this year, like he's been really happy with himself, being able to kind of keep up with things,

but I mean, if he's going to Minnesota, he's going to play in the playoffs and that can really

test where you're at physically, especially with the mileage he's put on his body over his

NHL career. I think if you're looking for some sort of opportunity for a storybook ending,

it's for him to play with his brother and go into the playoffs. And if it can get done,

like that's quite the Disney script there, but I think it's safe to say that with him

taking the trade and taking this opportunity to go, it's probably a sign that this might be it,

because if he felt like he had another year to play, he probably finishes the year here in

Chicago, finishes the season this captain, and then goes into free agency, decides where he wants

to go kind of thing. Yeah, I think it's kind of everything the way he sounded, even when like

he signed the two-year extension, he kind of joked a blood game, my wife is going to kill me

that I'm doing this for no two years, but you know, his kids are getting older, he's you know,

he's said he spent the whole time of the Olympic break, you know, watching his sons play hockey,

championship games and stuff like that. To me, I feel, you know, with everything, his daughter's

been going through, I feel like he's ready to be dead and be there for those things, you know,

you only get one chance to be around those things and he's missed, he's missed a lot already,

so, you know, family's very important to him, so I think, you know, but who knows, he could get

the Minnesota and all of a sudden, you know, oh yeah, this is what this feels like, I feel good.

It's been so long since I, since I played such meaningful games and maybe that gets his competitive

juices going again, but as you said, Mario, if Minnesota hits the ultimate goal and he's gets his,

gets the Stanley Cup at the end of the year, there's no better way to ride off into the sunset

than that. Yeah, get the chemo team in treatment. Yeah, well, hopefully he's does a little more nap,

but he was fine. Yeah, I think so too. I think this does indicate that he had kind of the

realization of, you know, I'm still somewhat effective. I think he can add something to a contender,

but I think the scare he had this year with his daughter, the medical procedure in the middle of

the year, he took, well, maybe it wasn't even a week, but a couple days off while she had a heart

procedure. Probably gave him a little bit of a, yeah, you know what, 38. I have kind of done

everything there is to do with side from when a cup, but he could chase a cup till he's 50. He's

not guaranteed anything. He could have said I'm only going to Colorado. He got in trade to

Colorado and they might not win this year. Right. I think the way to go out with your brother and

a team that really does have probably not, well, they're definitely not the Western converts favorite,

but Minnesota is as strong as they've ever been. I really like what they've done. So it's a great

way to call it a career. If that is indeed what Nick Fluno is doing, and I do think there's

something outside of on ice for him and the league, he's got any kind of job he wants. You have

to spend with the Black Hawks. Sure. The office loves him. They adore him. And if he wants to come

back and be on the broadcast team, if he wants to come back and take Chris Cunett's job of passing

pucks at practice and be a development coach, if he wants to be an assistant GM, anything.

Yeah. And then therefore at least he could still be, you know, he's not on the road. He's not

doing all that stuff. He gets, he's going to be a hockey lifer. He will be involved in the NHL

some way, shape or form. Just it's going to be up to him on what that role is. And whatever it is,

I'll be, you know, cheering him on. I mean, we got to know him on a personal level a bit when he

worked with us here a couple seasons and always gracious with his time. The guy you see on camera

is the guy he is 24 hours a day. That's it. It's not an act. Some people think it's phony. It's not

no that the guy you see with the cameras and the microphones in front of him in the locker room

is who he is 24 seven. He's as genuine as you get. And, you know, I'm not the biggest

Minnesota wild fan, but, you know, having him on that team makes me kind of, you know,

hope they do well because he's a guy that deserves it. I'm rooting for him for sure. I really am. I

think that, you know, he's like you said, Greg, a lot of people see that and they roll their eyes

like, oh man, he's a moth to the flame with the camera. And he's kept them the team. He's the

veteran of the team. Yeah, he's putting that spot a lot because a he's one of the few guys that could

embrace that role. And I would love him on the TV radio broadcast. Yeah. Like, you know,

our beloved Troy Murray is, is, you know, I don't think he'll be in the radio booths next season.

And obviously, we're always thinking about Troy. Every time we're in that press box,

and we walk by that WGN booth, that void is felt. But man, any sort of broadcast, if he wants to

do the CHSN studio show, if he wants to come work with us, let's do it. Sure. Yeah. We could

fire Steven, higher Nick Filino. Can you bring me back first? Oh, yeah. That's true. That's it.

Oh, my God. We'll show your graphic. What the hair picture on the screen already? I've been waiting

for this. She's twitching because the hair graphics have it on there. I do think the future

consideration should be Marcus's hair. Yeah. But it kind of works. I don't know.

I think Nick, though, is a guy that pulls off bald better than he pulls off hair. Like, you see

those photos from early in his career? And it's like, well, see, if you had a head of hair like that,

it's different. That's true. He's never had a head of hair like that. Hair was receding really.

He was fighting it early in life. Yeah. Same girl. He, uh, he rightfully made the correct

decision. If you had a head of hair like that, different story. Oh, David camp is going to

the capitals. I've got to have him. Okay. I've got to have him and Scott Lawton from Toronto to LA.

LA. What are they doing? What are they doing? That's Ken Holland, man. It's just not in him to rebuild.

Capitals also got Timothy Lilliegrin and the official trade for Braden Shen is a first,

a third, uh, Goulton, he procspect Marcus Gidloth and Jonathan Duran.

He's still going to sing Lewis. Yes. Wow. Wow. That's crazy. Uh, also, Pierla Brun saying the

Panthers are currently focused on trying to reassign Sturgh A. Burbrowski. Well, that makes sense.

There's nobody. They don't have a bandage agree. They don't have a guy in the pipeline. No,

he's well, they used to. They used to have a good young goalie. Now he's here. Um,

and the Goulton market is hot garbage. Yes. So if you, if you can reassign him and have him for

another year or two, it's better than anything you're going to get free agent-wise this summer.

Well, I was just, I was listening to, uh, what is it? Frankly speaking, uh, Frank Show.

Frankly hockey. Frankly hockey. Thank you. Uh, on the way in today, it was him and John

Butchegross and one of them mentioned that Burbrowski wants like a five-year deal.

He's like 38. He's like 38. Yeah. I mean, if he's still, but guess what, I'm not getting it either.

If he's still playing at that level, like you, you have to entertain the idea, um, especially when

Florida, look, they've already signed a bunch of guys to play into their 40s. Anyways, what's one more?

He's 37. Uh, yeah, you've got Eklad Jones, Forzling. Like pretty much everyone is to 29-30.

Everybody that matters. So sign them to 29-30 and just say, let's go. That would be a four-year deal.

I don't see that. Well, it's not the last two might look like crap, but if there's another cup in

there, uh-oh, we got to figure out. Oh, the Vancouver has traded Lucas Reiko to Boston for a six-thrown

pick. Wow. Would they give up to get him there? Do you win Boston? Vancouver? Yeah, what did the

Hawks get for him? We have a fourth-rounder. I think so. Lucas Reiko, Trade Black Hawks.

Fourth-round pick. Yeah, fourth-rounder. So they, they, they, they, they, they, well, I mean, he's been playing

in Abbots for, right? So they, they, 20, 27, fourth. How many conucks fans are saying today is

their worst day ever as a conucks fan? Because remember, he was supposed to fix their, uh, their whole

that second line center. Just like Colton Doc is going to fix the conuck or the oilers we're

having here in all week. You know, I feel, you know, who I feel bad for the most in that trade is, uh,

the, the poor, uh, media intern with the Black Hawks who had to, but the Lucas, welcome back,

Lucas Reiko, graphic back for tonight. Now they won't be able to use it. I don't think he's even

with the eye. I know he's not. I know he's not. But yeah, it's, uh, how about that?

Now that's just when people ask what a future consideration is, Lucas Reiko, the future,

Boston being like, we'll give you a sixth instead of like just taking them off labors.

Mm hmm. That might be a future consideration. You know what, you know what that is? That's Derek

Pooley-I-Trade because the Providence Bruins are really good this year in the age. Yeah. So that

could be like, Hey, Lucas Reiko is the last piece of our Calder Cup puzzle and he's going to put

us over the top. Yeah, maybe. I do not think the Boston Bruins made that trade with Boston in

mind at all. Hey, uh, shout out to Hoosier Hawks fan who just gifted 50 CHO sports

memberships on our YouTube page. I have no idea how that works. But I see a bunch of yellow stars

next to people. 50 memberships now. That's awesome. Thank you so much for your rock. That's,

that's a really cool gesture. Amazing. And a lot of people jumping out that free memory. Oh, yeah.

Like the last 50 people. That, uh, very cool. And what's cool about this is that's the Lucas

Reiko trade as well. We're seeing a bunch of people who are claiming that membership.

Our name is that I'm not interacted with us before. There's so many people that watch this show

and don't say a word. Oh, yeah. Feel free to chime in. That's fine. Yeah. We like to hear from

different people. Don't be intimidated. We're not going to make fun of you for at least a month.

Not right away. Not on your first post. Right. So, yeah. That's really bad. But thanks,

thanks, everybody, who's claiming that. And again, thanks to Hoosier Hawks fan for sending those,

those gift vouchers. That's really, really cool. Uh, JG Pad Joe signs the three-year extension

with the islanders at 4.85 million. Okay. It was also, by the way, a six-round pick for David

Camp. Uh, yeah. So, former Hawks moving for six-round picks all over the place. Man, how's that

Kanuklan? I'm going to look tonight. Oh, great. I bet you the black Hawks are very happy that

Kanuklan is not on in the line. Oh, sure. Yeah. Sure. He is a pain in the ass against the black Hawks.

It's always had more Vancouver. Who else do they really have, though? I mean,

their biggest thing is, yeah, but he just signed an extension. No, what about Garland?

Garland's hasn't got any. Well, I think, I think Bessar wants to hang around. I don't know why.

I imagine what he does. Um, I mean, Elias Pederson, but how do you move him at this point?

Those are off-season type of trades. Yeah. So Garland, six million starts next year. Yeah,

for four years. Is it really? Oh, yeah. But Pederson, we were talking about this walking out. Like,

Pederson, Teddy Bluger was also on the block, but he apparently is not moving. Yeah. Like,

Pederson's an unmovable deal. I don't think so. You don't think so? I mean, not. How many years

did we hear nobody's trading for Seth Jones? Yeah, that's true. There's no such thing as an

unmovable deal in the NHL. That's true. That's true. 11.6 million. Here's the 2930. And how old is he?

27. Play seven. I would take him on the black box. Full price. I would not full price. I mean,

full price, if that takes the return down. No, I wouldn't take. I'm not giving. I think he's a guy

that just is dying. Once he gets out of Vancouver is going to be the player that they want. Maybe.

I don't just count that, but my fear is if you're wrong, you're effed. Like, if he comes to Chicago

or wherever he gets traded to eventually and is the same, then there's because the only way

you're moving them now is someone having that mentality, which I'm to be fair. I'm with you on

that. Like, this guy has produced at a high level multiple times. I don't even need half of it,

but if you can give me him for nine million, eight million, okay, then we're talking. I'll take

that risk. But 11.6. I'm not taking that risk on him. Because if someone does and he comes in

and it's the same thing, he's got no shots on goal for four games or whatever it's been. And he's

just an 11.6 million dollar Lucas Raquel. Then there's no shot of moving that contract out

ever because people are just like absolutely not. Yeah, they know. I'm not touching it. It's not

because Vancouver right now is toxic as hell. It is a complete dumpster fire. Yeah. And that

that's what I'm saying. I'm a little bit surprised like Brock Pester. He's got four years left.

I didn't say, hey, you know, move me out for some picks. Like, I want to go compete. I know

nothing's happening here. Even like Marco Rossi, like, they just got it. I know they just got them,

but like, you can't go in. You can't flip a guy you just got for Quincy. Yes, that's probably

you cannot do that. Yeah, but I guess is that who you're building around then? Yeah. I mean,

listen to this lineup. The guys you got for the guys you got for Hughes are better. Be good.

That's the core. You got to build around their second line. Here's the lineup. You got

Niels Hogglander, Lise Persson, Linus Carlson. Then your second line is Liam Ogren,

Michael Rossi, Brock Pester, Drew O'Connor, who's some mystery center because they just

created David Kamp, Jake DeBrosque, Max Sassen, Teddy Bluger, Atu Rote, and then your defensive pairs are

Elias Patterson, the other one, Philip Heronick, Marcus Patterson, no relation, Tom Wheelander,

Zeeb William, and Victor Mancini. Hey, you, Victor Mancini. My favorite Jardiner brand.

Yeah, and again, this is without. We need a mancini to go and manage a pioneer.

This is what this is without Evander Keane and Philip Edel, also unavailable.

Yeah, I mean, it's not great. No. Hawkshire Win tonight.

You said it.

Clip that, Chloe. So when we're here, when we're here in six hours, talk about a four-one loss.

I said, you should. I said should.

Talked with Tracy Myers before the before talking with Blaschall, and she was saying that she's

doing like some, you know, a feature around the league, and she wanted to talk to the

her or the conucks about it. And she was just like, it might not be the best time to talk about it,

because they've won twice in their last 23 games. Like, it's real bad in Vancouver right now.

So it is bad. And you think about it. They were two years, two years ago. They were one win

away from the Western Conference finals. Yeah. How quickly that went to crap.

You know, it's crazy. It's like the Raiders and the Tuck rule.

Yeah, exactly. They're playing away from the Super Bowl, and then they suck for 20.

They haven't even sniffed getting back to that point since then. Yeah, I mean, it's

Vancouver's a mess, and nobody here in Chicago has upset about that.

But yeah, it, uh, Patterson, I mean, that's that he's not on the top of my target.

That's that's something I would love to see this summer is, you know, the hawks in the mix

to get like, if Robert Thomas is truly available this summer, that's a guy you go after.

If Jason Robertson is truly available, that's a guy you, you take all these picks and a couple

of these prospects, and you say, have your pick, which ones do you want, and you take them,

and you sign them to a long-term deal, and you move on from there. You know, but if Patterson is

out there, I mean, I rolled a dice on a guy like that because he gives you a legit goal score,

another offensive weapon, and I really think he could, you know, going from that Vancouver

atmosphere to a team like Chicago with all these young guys, and, you know, not a ton of pressure

right now could be perfect for him. I mean, the pressure is going to ramp up soon.

But it will never be here what it is in Vancouver, like an ordinary day in Vancouver is like

a Stanley Cup final day in Chicago. So maybe he thrives with a little less spotlight,

a little less scrutiny. I just wonder too, and I don't, I don't know if he's, so I'm just saying,

I want to, I would make sure, I would hope Kyle Davidson would do his research on this, like,

if you are going to make a move for Patterson, is he a guy that is going to have a bad impact on

a room or on a culture? Is he a culture record? I don't think so, because he wasn't the guy

that got traded out of that. Yeah, and we're as long as he was, as long as he's got teammates with

JT Miller, I think it's wrong. JT Miller was launched out of there and look how great things are

going to the team he's captaining this year. Yeah, absolutely. Was he literally shot out of a cannon?

He's literally shot out of a cannon. Him and Jason Dickens is out of the same cannon.

It's a big ass cannon. I mean, listen, JT Miller, the Tampa Bay Lightning, a team that has got one of

the best cultures of winning in modern history. They were good. Couldn't wait to get rid of him.

Thank you. Good. What does that tell you? Yeah, 100%. 100%.

I don't know, man, I like Jason Robertson. Davidson was stiffened around him last summer.

That came out a couple of weeks ago. He called doing choir to say, hey, if you're really

shopping them, we are definitely interested. And as we said earlier, with all this draft capital

use stockpiled and some of the prospects you have, they have what it takes to get it done.

Dallas might want an NHL player back. Okay, that's, that's going to be a harder thing for them to do.

But you give them a two first in Tyler Bertuzzi. They're not trading Tyler Bertuzzi.

For Jason Robertson. That Jeff Blaschal wants his guy off that dude. If they don't trade, if

Tyler Bertuzzi is what's stopping you from acquiring fire Jeff, you fire Jeff Blaschal and

you fire Kyle Davidson and you blast them both out of the literal camp. Yes, you put them in

Jason. I'm sorry. Tyler Bertuzzi is not going to be dying on the Tyler Bertuzzi hill to knock

at Jason Robertson. That would be a fireable offense. I mean, the black hawks have a

bit of a disadvantage in any negotiations in any possible Jason Robertson or Robert Thomas

trade. They would, they would, they would, yeah, at 3 a.m. James Goddard terrible.

Uh, they, the blues are the stars likely would not want to trade those guys within the division.

Right. Yeah, but you know what? But if you're going to, if you're going to have to, they're going

to have to blow out everybody else's offer. I mean, also, here's the other thing too, is if

you're talking about Jason Robertson, everyone not named Badard is on the table. Agreed. Like

Nazar on the table. Agreed. Cancer op on the table. Maybe not for Undell. Probably not

Levchenov. Not at this point, not everybody else. 100% is on the table. If you're getting Jason

Robertson back. Yes, I like toe, it's like toin says Burrakowski in two first. No, they're,

they're laughing at you and hanging up the phone. They're not going to take your junk for, for, uh, you'll

need to give them one of the up and one of the young forward like, uh, a prospect that you're

going to be like, uh, it's going to want to, I don't want to give out that guy. But you know,

if you give up a guy that you are hoping is going to be Jason Robertson in three years for Jason

Robertson right now in his prime of his career, you do it. Corey says that's like the bulls not

trading a little all day into a choir and Kobe Bryant. Thank you. Yes. Of course. Of course,

you like Lou Aldang. He's a good player. It's Kobe effing Bryant. You make that trade 100 times.

Yeah. I look, I'm, uh, Sam said give, give like a hypothetical. What would a trade look like for

for Jason Robertson? So let's play that game, right? But I'm going to say it starts with two first

round picks probably like that is like the first part of the club has to be your own. Yeah,

and I, I'm thinking we're trying to be realistic here. I think two firsts in Nazar.

Is this starting point? Is this starting point might not be enough. But Sam says Nazar

largest and two first for Robertson. I would do that. I would make that deal. Yeah, I would.

I would make that deal because again, it's time to move this forward a little bit. Jason Robertson

is not old. Uh, he is a play driver. He's a possession driver. He's put up huge points. Uh,

Jason Robertson is 26. His best years are ahead of him. Yeah. I mean, and we're likely

just talking nonsense here. Um, you know, I still don't think Dallas stars as good as,

as Jim Nill is. I mean, they're going to name the executive of the one of the year award after

him at some point. To me, he's not a guy that moves on from a Jason Robertson entering the

prime of his career, especially when you have such a large window of opportunity with the stars.

They've done a really good job of, you know, locking up their younger players for a long time.

Um, you know, you've got Ratton in there forever. Rupert Hintz is locked up. He's got a lot of pieces

and now you're moving on. Tyler Sagan's contract is coming off the books. Jamie Ben's contract is

coming off the books and the salary caps going up. I don't think, you know, this is a pipe dream.

As much as I would love Jason Robertson here, I don't think he's getting traded. Robert Thomas

on the other hand, sounds like they want to move on from him. So the black hogs have a lot of what

the blues would want for him. All right. And you got yourself a big physical center who, again,

just hitting the prime of his career, you go for it. My package is not as big. That's what she's

at for Robert Thomas. Is it as for Robertson? I don't know. It's probably going to have to be close.

The same because Thomas has already got the contract at a reasonable price. Yeah. And he's a center.

Yeah, the security of the deal already signed. It makes a difference. That's for sure.

Because you're getting pretty good value. Yeah, 8.125.

Him and Robertson are the same age. Robertson's contract.

If and when you resign him is going to be the first, the first digit will be a double digit.

Yeah, it's going to start with one. Yes. Follow by another number. Yes. Exactly. So

I think we are at the point now where, and I'm not saying that Davidson should go out and have

one of these off seasons. We're like, he's the winner of free agency and adds all these guys.

I don't want to win this. I identify identify a difference maker. Like you're talking about Thomas,

Robertson. There's others. And go get a guy like that to supplement what you have coming.

Right. And I think we are approach. I don't know if it's necessarily this summer. Probably not.

He should start. But if the opportunity presents this summer, I think you jump at it. I don't think

you wait and say, well, we want to wait till we're in our window. I don't care who you have coming up.

Short of Frontel. I don't think there's anyone that projects out to be a Rob Thomas or a Jason

Robertson in terms of production in terms of overall play. That guy is not in your system.

Now, can a guy surprise you and sneak up like couldn't mace in a west turn into that or could

nickel artist turn in that maybe, but you're getting some security and guys play well into their

thirties now. You've got 10 years left with these guys at pretty high level hockey. Yeah. I mean,

I'm ready to, and I don't think Kyle Davidson is going to go into this off season saying,

I have to do something like that. No, I don't think he's going to seek it out. But if these guys

become available, you have to have these conversations. You have to at least say, what is,

what are we doing here? Because you do have a lot of babies. So there's nothing wrong with

trading away a couple of babies for an already short thing. Look what the wild are doing this

season. You know, give it as we mentioned, all those young guys, they're top two defensive

prospects, Marco Rossi, a young center, they gave those guys up. But why were they able to give

those guys up to get to bring in better players because they've already identified and have their

core locked up. Black Hawks aren't there yet. They have the one guy that they know is going to be

part of their core in Conor Bernard. They have a guy that they've identified Frank Nasar and

signed him to be that, but he hasn't lived up to that yet. They frondelle like they have guys that

are hoping are going to be their core. The wild already have that established with Bolly and

Faber and Capri's off. So you can go out there and trade away pieces of the future to get

Quinn Hughes and bring in some other guys. So they're not quite ready there yet. But if a guy

like that that can become a long-term core member from the second he shows up as available,

you at least have to try. Yeah. I'm totally there on that. By the way, the wild are interesting.

I've been thinking about this a lot lately. This year with Colorado, you kind of have to

asterisk all the conversation about Western Conference Cup contenders because Colorado feels

so much higher than everybody else in it. It's never a foregone conclusion. But if I ever had to

say there's going to be one, it would be the avalanche reaching to Western Conference,

or the same like up final this year. But the way Minnesota is built. There's a lot of

conversation around the Hawks like, but Dar needs that second guy. He needs that second guy.

You've got Capri's off. In terms of like offensive studs, Bolly is probably it, right? But

that's really it. Like it's just a lot of really good players top to bottom. Guys that can play

it both ends. Guys that play what Jeff Flashle calls winning hockey, right? Like you've got two

star players in Bolly and Capri's off. Joel Erickson, that is a great hockey player. Not huge

numbers. Zuccarello, Marcus Fulino, Ryan Hartman, Trenon, Sturm, now Bobby Brink. Like it's just

is a good and deep roster. And you know, you add Quinn Hughes, of course. That's a huge thing.

But even before they added Quinn Hughes, they were a competitive team that had

cup aspirations and you could squint hard and see Minnesota maybe getting to the cup final.

Now they had him and it's a different story. I think this this notion that the Hawks at the

absolutely go out and find another Conor Baudard level offensive player to compete is not

necessarily true. Teams with depth win. Those are the teams that win Stanley Cups. You look at

the L.A. Kings. They're two Stanley Cup teams. They had great players. But who on those teams

was like just an offensive dynamo. They didn't have putting up a hundred points. Even the Hawks

and that Patrick Kane's best offensive years came after the cups. Yeah. He was great. Point

per game. You also had wholesome sharp. Right. But it was just it was a matter of you were just so

damn deep. And I always remember Ken Hitchcock to say like they had so much resolve. Like if one line

wasn't doing it, it was the next line. And if the top six wasn't doing it, it was the bottom six.

And you could roll four lines all game consistently and just wear the asses out of your opponent.

That's something I see for Minnesota, especially with some of the moves they've made for here recently.

Like I am not counting them out as a team that can make a deep run in the cup playoffs.

I'm not at all. No, I mean, they're going to they're going to have a really tough go at it.

They're going to play Dallas in the first round unless Dallas catches Colorado. That's unlikely.

And then you're going to, you know, you get by Dallas to me out of those three teams.

Colorado has the most dynamic talent. I mean, they've got two of the five best players in the

world right now in McKinnon and McCarr. But out of those three top teams, Dallas to me is the

deepest. And, you know, they they're going to be a tough out in the first round. If you get by

Dallas, you're going to have to likely play Colorado again unless unless you'll, you know,

if I'm Colorado and I see Seattle there at that second wild card, I get a little itchy again,

but, you know, hey, it's also true. So, you know, but if you're this wild and whoever wins

that Dallas and Minnesota series and they get to Colorado, there's going to be a large chunk of

that team still left in the first round. They are not coming out of that series unscathed. That's

going to be a war. So now you're playing Colorado, you know, far below 100%. That's a tough

pass. If Minnesota gets by those two teams, God bless them. Like that is that's all hell of an

accomplishment. And then you might get a little reprieved because whoever comes out of that

Pacific side of the bracket is sucks. Like that that division is garbage. Yeah. No one in the

Pacific has more wins than losses. Right. It's bad. It's insane. Combining, you know, just

wins and losses. Not taking the overtime all out of it. No team has more wins than losses. It's

not like insane. So, you know, you could you could be facing your third straight central division

team. Maybe Utah makes run takes out Vegas in the first round and then knocks out the ducks who

upset the oilers in the first round. All right. We've got 10 minutes to go. We need to take the

tap and by taking a tap, we are going to give our winners and losers at the deadline. Taking a

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saving coupons. That's four seasons heating cooling.com. Who would like to go first in their winners

and deadline losers? Not me. I defer. I'm not the regular guy here. So all right. I'll go first.

There you go. Just to make it easy. We were just talking about it. I think the Minnesota

wild had a really good trade deadline, adding Bobby Brink, adding Nick Filino. I think it's

foolish to ignore the fact that they added Quinn Hughes. I know it was a while ago, but they add a

lot. I think they did. I think they did a really good job solidifying their team. Also,

as much as we are pleased with the return, the Black Hawks got from the Murphy Diggins and

Doctorates, Edmonton went out and did what they needed to do to solidify their team defense.

They did not add a goalie. So that's a concern, obviously, for the Oilers. But I do think

future be damned. They went out and acquired two really good defensive players that are going

to help them big time in the playoffs. Concern is always what Diggins and Murphy, as we know

better than anybody, is health. But if those guys are healthy for the Oilers playoff run,

they're a better team this year than they were than they have been and they got a better chance

at competing in the playoffs. Look, if you're going to score, if you can prevent a goal a game

or half a goal a game throughout the playoffs and you're in game seven, the Cup final again,

maybe a win at this time. I think those two are really good ads. I think Stan Bowman did a good

job. Again, just completely punting on the future as Stan Bowman does. But he knows he's got to

get a cup before economy Davis contract is up and he's doing what he can to do it. So I think

Edmonton for what they needed had a pretty good, had a pretty good trade deadline. Losers, I'm

going to say the blues. I think they send the prices too high. I don't know what their future looks

like. Don't really love what they were doing. And the moves that the Sabers made in reaction to

not getting Colton Paraco. Logan Stanley, Shen, and who else did they add?

Carrick, Carrick, thank you. Sam Carrick. Nice players, but I don't think they really move the needle

for the Sabers at all. Are they better? Yeah, marginally better. I thought Paraco would have

been a home run for them. I do think Kekalainen maybe panicked a little bit and said I got to get

something done here because the Paraco thing doesn't look great. If I was him, maybe I'd

just stand pat or you add Carrick only or something like that. So I think they maybe overreacted

in not getting Paraco. Yeah, they were definitely trying to just salvage something.

But I mean, they're still in a good spot. Buffalo. And like you said, I still think that they

do improve themselves a little bit. Yeah, but it's not it's not the it just felt unnecessary.

It's not the big improvement that Paraco would have done for them. Yeah, I mean everything you

said about Edmonton is why I would say that they would be my my winner from from the trade

deadline because they've had that that moniker in the in the playoffs of like if you stop

Mick David, if you stop Tri-Sidal, which not the easiest things to do, but if you do it,

that's their team. And and depth within their team was was an issue. Adding

counter Murphy and Jason Dickinson doesn't help you with depth scoring, but it helps you with

you're all around game. And you take two guys who were key parts of the best penalty kill

in the NHL and put them on the oilers who wins once you're in the playoffs. Yeah, special teams

is a huge X factor for teams down the road. And you know, the oilers, that's a really that's a

team that's got a lot of talent on the power play. If you shore up your penalty kill for as few

penalties that are called in the playoffs, if you have the advantage on both ends of special

teams like that, that can be a big X factor. So I think that they got better as a team overall

adding Dickinson and Murphy. You're really hanging your hat on Tristan Jerry to get you there.

That's that's your own call. But I think as far as the players in front of them, they improved

and for a team that still has Mick David and Tri-Sidal, like you you definitely cannot count them out

of any game. So I'd say the oilers right now as far as what they needed to do to improve their

team overall probably did the best without giving up like things that are going to kill you.

In the short term because their their window is now.

Yeah, I agree with the oilers probably out of the teams that made multiple deals and high profile

deals did the best because they they filled glaring needs. And they did a good job at that.

Maybe at a little too much of a price, but you know, we won't know that for a while. And if

if it's counter Murphy and Jason Dickinson's two way, you know, defensive play that gets them

over the top, they're not going to care about those first and second round picks. So I'm going to

say the Blues are a winner at the trade deadline too because they netted two first round picks

and a second round pick for Shen and and Falk. So if they're a team that's clearly transitioning

to we're no longer shooting for playoffs, we're going to try and retool rebuild this. However,

they want to brand it. They did a really good job getting a couple of first rounders and a second

rounder as well. And again, this is paying me to say too, but you look what the Detroit Red Wings did

today. You got to like that getting Justin Falk getting David Peron for depth. That makes them a

better team and they were sure starting this morning. And you know, that's that's a fan base that

is dying to get back to the playoffs after a really long rebuild. You know, we've we've given the

theizer plan a hard time. Sometimes jokingly, sometimes not jokingly. Yeah.

They're starting to see it pay off and to bring in a guy like Justin Falk, that helps them a lot.

So those are the teams I think did the best. And I think the team that dropped the ball the most

the New York Rangers. You know, you hear about all these guys they're going to trade.

Yeah. Vincent Trocheck doesn't go anywhere. You know, brain Schneider was a guy you've been hearing

name for weeks. Yeah, there doesn't go any was almost unchanged. And yeah, they traded Pernaren,

but they didn't get a very good return for him. Liam Green Tree. Sure. God bless you, Liam.

The hope it works out for you. But that's definitely not the like if you would have said the

beginning of the year, you're going to trade our time in Pernaren. In your Rangers fan, you're

hoping for more than that. Oh, yeah, for sure. So they're a team that apparently they had very

high asking prices for these guys. And other GMs are like stick it. Yeah. We'll call back in June

when there's a different guy answering the phone and we'll get a better deal for these guys true.

All right. We got some super chats you want to hit before we wrap things up.

Spencer $10 says, keep my cave to help with left shopping cancer off. Still working out what we

have before addressing trade market and freedom to the field gaps is Thompson, the first Davidson

draft prospect to go trade wise. Yes. Yeah. And Thompson was he not a 22 2022. Yeah. Yeah.

The only you could you can he's the first one to be traded. Obviously Dominic James wasn't signed.

He went to another team, but that wasn't a trade. That was another. That was the same draft.

Thompson and James were that 2022 draft. And then Jasper says for five dollars,

I feel like the return for the younger prospects Thompson and Alan feel like throwaways instead of

getting any real value. You got what their value dictated. Yeah. I think that remains to be seen.

I could see where you're coming from Thompson. I'm not so worried about no one Alan yet to play

a game in San Jose. No, he's been in the HL. Yeah. He's he's not suited up for the shark yet. Yeah.

Well, that was Alan and Bruce. Yeah. For a pick and to HL guys, I think. Yeah.

Take for a long and Jake and Jake for long has played pretty good. Yeah. And they got the Ryan

LSD old. That's right. That's right. Yeah. Yeah. So they got a fourth for long and LS for

Alan, Bruce. Well, on a seventh. Yeah. I mean, it just like there's nothing wrong with

cutting bait on a prospect where you could see like, all right, no one Alan, your path to get to

Chicago. It's tough. It's tough. And so let's get something and let's put you in a position where

you can have an easier path. But the fact that he hasn't been called up to San Jose yet,

that might say something. We'll see how that works. I hope it works out for no one Alan. I like him.

I still think he's a serviceable third pair of stay-at-home defenseman, a good kid. So hopefully

it works out. But at some point, we're going to have these discussions a lot over the next few

years where, oh, I can't believe we're trading Aiden Thompson and the grand scheme of things.

Aiden Thompson, very low on a total pull. It's going to be other guys. We fall in love with these

guys because we get excited about when they get drafted and we follow them through their college

and juniors. And then when they get traded away for something that doesn't excite you,

oh, I can't believe they did that. It's six weeks from now. You're going to forget Aiden Thompson

was even. Aiden Thompson's 24 years old. This is his rookie season. He has 15 points and 40 games

in the A.H.O. I mean, yeah, I mean, I have high hopes for the guy too. But very clearly,

not high up. They haven't seen what they want. And that's a third-round tick. That's a third-round

pick. The likelihood that he was going to be much in the NHL is a crapshoot at that point.

Does it seem like, oh, no, we gave it up for a guy who's just an A.H.O.

defenseman? Sure. But you gave up an A.H.O. forward for an A.H.O. defenseman.

And with Alan, it kind of feels the same. You gave up an A.H.O. defenseman

for picks and A.H.O. players. It just comes down to what it is.

Yeah, we're going to see more of these types of trades over the next couple of years.

Where it's like, man, I really was hoping this guy was going to be something and then you're not.

Hey, that queue is still coming through. Nazem Kadry is going back to the Colorado Abilance.

Okay, he's not. Yes, Elliott Friedman and Darren Drager. Nazem Kadry is going back to the

Abilance pending a call. There were some other ones that came through Tanner Pearson is going to

Buffalo as well. That's been over the top. So yeah, we're getting some stuff. Still some stuff going on.

All right, keep your eye on the insider fee. We have one more super chat to get to real quick,

by the way, from the Captain Basil or Basil. Says, hey, guys, I renewed my diehard membership.

I'm sad to see Fulino go, but I'm glad they did right by him looking forward to the future here.

Thank you very much, Captain. We appreciate it. And you're the honorary captain until one of

the next season. There you go. All right, we are going to wrap things up. A couple things still

come in your way. Kyle Davidson is speaking at 430. We will record and post on YouTube and post the

audio question mark Chloe. Yes, all right. We'll post the audio in the podcast feed. So look for

that around 5 530 and then post game show tonight. Yes, there's a game tonight. There's still a game.

Hawks and Conox will touch you on the post game show. We're only halfway done with the day, fellas.

Yay. All right, it's touchy later on CHGO Black Hawks.