Nick D – Marnie Shure, The Secrets of Soy Sauce & Elliott Gould is sexy!!

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Been a part of my radio show for a long time and has been a part of this podcast since the beginning

back into 2022. I believe it's when we started this podcast. Yeah, it's been four years. And

Marnie is going to join me to talk about food and to talk about mortified and give us a horror

report. And we'll do a little taste test. Marnie and I love to talk about food. We'll talk about

pop culture. She's a big horror freak. So we're going to get a report on all the horror movies that

she's seen in the past month. And she is part of the fantastic mortified group where they put on

these amazing shows. We'll give you all the details about the next mortified show that's happening

in April. So Marnie sure fantastic is going to be joining me. And then the lovely Esmeralda Leon

who joins me every single episode. Boy, we had a blast last week. I don't know what happened. We

got off the rails on a couple of episodes. We were talking about bidets and wiping your butt.

And we were talking about the muppets. And we had a blast. So we kind of like got off track. And

we were going to be talking about like more stupid excuses that people used to get out of

commitments and work and stuff. We're going to jump back into that and then find out what's

what happened over the weekend and what we got going on in the world with Esmeralda Leon. So we're

going to shoot the shit. Have some fun because she rules the planet. Esmeralda Leon in the last segment

of the show. The second segment of the show is Marnie sure. And there you go. I really hope you

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Russell and I love Nick's show. I understand that you do, baby. Hi, I'm Carrie Russell and I love Nick's show.

She loves the show. You love the show. Marnie sure loves the show too and she's going to talk

with me right after you get congratulated.

Marnie Marnie sure. Marnie Marnie sure. Let's talk about food.

I love all the things you stick. Yeah, I get through.

I know that was kind of weird, but hey, here's something that's awesome. Marnie sure about it.

That's right. Marnie sure. She's great and she joins me once a month here on the NICD podcast to

chat about food and horror and mortified and much, much more and what's going on in the world.

So let's say hello to the great Marnie sure. Hi, Marnie. Hi, Nick. How are you? I'm all right. How are you?

Just fine. Good, good, good. As we record this, we're supposed to have some lovely weather.

Today. Yes, and I am I am in a phone booth with no windows. So hopefully I come out into the sunshine.

Wow, a phone booth with no windows. That sounds terrifying.

Well, it helps me focus entirely on the really, really important things we're going to talk about.

That's exactly right. You have to have complete focus whenever you're on this podcast.

That's how it works. Absolutely. Yeah, we're supposed to get up to like, and this is of course,

like it's been, you know, if you've lived here in Chicago for any time of your life, or especially

in the last month or so, it's been like a, we have been on like a sea saw here of,

yeah, I feel like we have not been allowed to have more than one nice day at a time,

which is really cruel. We just get like tantalizing glimpses. And today is one of those.

Today and tomorrow is supposed to be like today, you know, we're recording this in,

you know, the end of March. So the very, very end of March. And so like today and tomorrow,

it's supposed to be like 70, like tomorrow, we're supposed to get up to like 76. And then on Wednesday,

as we record this, the high is going to be 40. And the 76 tomorrow is like thunderstorms.

So you won't even really effectively be able to enjoy it. Right. Yeah. So spring in Chicago always

fantastic. So anyway, so how have you been, Marnie? Good. I'm good. Yeah. I had fun watching the

Oscars at the beginning of the, you know, middle of the month. That was fun. And now I'm just trying

to figure out what movies are going to be good for next year. Yeah. That's kind. And then just

dealing with spring. The Oscars got it was a long show. It didn't feel very long. I actually

thought it was pretty entertaining. But I didn't realize it was like three hours and 40 minutes.

Yeah. Like they were supposed to end at either like nine or 10. And then like they weren't even

in the big categories. Yeah. Yeah. No, it wasn't sane. It went on forever. And it starts an hour

earlier now because it used to start at seven o'clock central. Now it starts at six. And it still

went to like quarter to 10. Like one night. It was. But I was very pleased with the major

awards except for a best actor. But I was very pleased that I mean, you know, there was that

there was this whole like, oh, you know, sinners might come in and upset everything. And no, no.

No, I really didn't. The correct movie won. Well, my bracket or my ballot, I got 15 out of 24

correct. So I'm happy with that. That's not bad. That's not bad. We did we had we had on my

sub-stack. We did a live chat on my sub-stack page. And we had a whole bunch of people there.

And we gave away prizes. People had ballots. And we did bingo. Like we had bingo cards where we had

like, you know, like a person cries when they win the award. Or Conan makes a joke about,

you know, Timothy Shalamay not liking ballet or, you know, shit like that. And then we had it,

you know, and we had people won bingo and people who did very well on the ballots. We had like,

I think our two winners, they were tied. Our two winners got 20 out of 24.

There's a lot of 21. Very impressive. 21. I think 21 out of 21. I got 17.

That's good too. I mean, I think that I thought I was going to get a better ballot than usual

because I made a real effort to see as many of the movies as possible. But what this showed me was

like, I didn't actually do that much better than I did last year. So it's kind of just like,

you have to think like the academy. It's exists. That's the problem.

Because very, very, very rarely they did this year. They did this year. But very rarely do the best

pictures when the big awards. You know what I mean? Like it's just it's more politics. It's more like

what's happening in the moment. It's more like what's happening. Like, you know, I know that like,

um, uh, you know, uh, Timothy Shalamay's comments about which were about ballet and an opera which

was by the way, just an offhanded joke that, of course, that he's made before his mom is a dancer.

He, you know, he went to the school of performing arts in New York. He actually did dance and he

know, he was, he was just goofing around. It was a throwaway joke. And of course, they made a big

deal out of it because now it's, it's hip to hate Timothy. Um, right. I think that it was just like,

everybody was hungry for there to be drama because it was a pretty drama free Oscar season,

especially compared to last year. So it was like, people seized on that just because they were

like hungry for gossip, but it felt like kind of forced. It's completely forced. And the fact is

that he's amazing in Marty's Supreme. He's, he's incredible in it. It's a great performance.

The best performance of that any male gave last year, like much better than, than Michael Jordan,

Michael Jordan. I'm not a, I know, I'm not a fan of sinners. Everybody knows that. I think it's

like getting. I just saw it on the big screen again this week. They're replaying it at the Davis

and one battle. So if I can catch one battle, I'll try to see that again too. Yeah.

Yes, sinners. Well, we know how I feel about it. I just think it's an insanely derivative movie

that doesn't have an original bone in its body. And the fact that it won original screenplay to

me is ironic. I love it. I love it so much. I wish I had seen it win more things, but yeah,

I know. I know everybody loves it. I'm the, I'm the grump. But I think, I think the major awards.

I think Paul Thomas Anderson, he's been nominated 14 times, um, you know, between writing,

producing and directing. He's been nominated 14 times. He's never wait and never won. The guy's

been making incredible movies for 30 years. And it was, you know, speaking of one battle's

victories, sorry, I, and, and I know you've probably already talked about this a lot. It's,

it's literally your job. But why? Why wasn't Sean Penn there? He was in Ukraine. He was in Ukraine.

He was in Ukraine. Um, yeah, he was like doing a humanitarian thing in Ukraine. He caught a lot

of shit for it. And I know, but, but people didn't really know like Kieran Culkin made it,

made it that later he would regret because when he found out what he was doing, what Sean Penn

was doing. Yeah. Oh, that's funny. Okay. God. Yeah. I was like, oh, sorry. It's weird that he's not

there. But yeah, like it almost like seemed so on brand for him not to be that people didn't

really question it. But I was curious. That's his third Oscar. And he was there for the other two.

You know, well, good. He was, he was there for Mystic River. And he was there for, um,

almost said Mystic pizza. Not that one. Not that one. He was there for Mystic River. And he was

there for milk. Um, but he was, uh, he went to Ukraine to help out. And I mean, he does it all

the time. That guy's a maniac. But, but yeah, I mean, he's not like he wasn't happy.

Grateful that he won. He was like doing something really amazing and selfless in Ukraine.

And with even without having his acceptance speech, uh, the ceremony was still so long. So

we really like helped us out with the runtime really. Yeah. True. Yeah. It was fun to watch. And I

was just, I mean, I was, I was just pleased at Paul Thomas Anderson, you know, one finally. And

the guy made my favorite movie all the time. So I, you know, and I love one battle. I think it's

best definitely the best movie of the year. So anyway, but it was fun to watch as usual. Um,

all right. And I'm hoping that this crap with Timothy doesn't affect, uh, you know,

because the trailer for Dune 3 just dropped and I almost wet myself watching it. Oh, people are

excited. Yeah. Okay. Cause I know there's all this shit about Timothy. Let's just say,

oh, he put it away. The guy's a great. No, I think it's, I think it's, yeah, I think it's,

it was manufactured. Yeah. No question. No question. All right. Well, since we're talking about movies,

before we get into the food stuff that we always like to get into, uh, and wait, by the way,

where can we, where can before we dive into that? Where can we see your bylines and stuff?

Where can people read your stuff? Yeah. A few different places. I'm writing at simply recipes,

Rezi, food and wine, time for kids occasionally. Um, yeah. So lots of fun places. Very cool. And

we'll get into food and all that cool stuff. Uh, and then I definitely want to talk about the

new mortified show, which is really cool because it's a fundraiser for, um, uh, Minnesota immigrant

rights action committee, which is awesome. Yeah. Very, very cool. Um, but before that, we were just

talking about the Oscars. You do a horror. You love horror. Yes. And, uh, you have a horror report

that you do monthly with us. What have you seen? Let's talk about the horror movies that Marnie

sure has seen. Yes. So we last talked in January. So, um, my birthday is in February. And on my

birthday, I made my friends come see send help with me. Ah, yes. Which I think dropped out of the

conversation pretty fast, just because of like where it was situated in the year. But yeah,

I thought it was so fun. I, you know, didn't think it was scary, but like seeing a Sam Raimi

joint on screen on the big screen was so fun. Um, love Rachel McAdams in it. Love Dylan O'Brien

in it. I think Dylan O'Brien, like I personally, I thought he should have been nominated for

Best Actor this year for his performance in Twinless. I agree with you. I just, yeah.

Out of my favorite movies of the year, one of my favorite movies here. Yes. Yes, it didn't get any

love at the major awards, but, um, what a surprise that movie was. It was. It was. And he also played

a villain in a movie. Another one of my favorite movies from last year that nobody saw called

Anniversary. Wait, I've never even heard of that. Yeah. No, you need to check this place. You're

Dylan O'Brien fan. You definitely have to check the movie out because he plays a total prick in it.

And, um, so it's called Anniversary and Diane Lane is the start. So it's an ensemble cast.

And it takes place over the course of a year where Dylan O'Brien brings a date to

the anniversary party that they're having for the parents and the parents are, oh, God, I'm

blanking out his name now. Man, I'm blanking out his name anyway. So Diane Lane is the Kyle Chandler.

There we go. Kyle Chandler. Okay. So it's Kyle Chandler and Diane Lane and they are,

they are the parents of some daughters and one son. And the one son is played by Dylan O'Brien.

He brings a girl back to an anniversary partner who was once the student of Diane Lane, who's a

professor. And she's brainwashing her son by Dylan O'Brien to sort of a very, very,

it's not really MAGA, but it's like a MAGA-like conspiracy world. And he changes.

It's, he's such a jerk in the, I mean, he's so, he's, and he's amazing in it and he's amazing.

So yeah, if you're a fan of, if you're a fan of Dylan O'Brien and he was in, I mean, and twin,

nobody saw Twinless and Twinless was an amazing movie. And, and, and, and anniversary. He's in,

he's great in that and then he's, you know, he's great at playing villains and he's spectacular

and send help. I'll have to, yeah, I'll have to see the anniversary because like, I hope he doesn't

get typecast as like Dix and assholes and villains, but he does do it quite well because he is like

this attractive guy who can put like a sinister force behind his facial expressions.

Yeah, he, he is, I mean, he's really great at playing, at playing villains, but he's also,

I mean, he's not, he's not, I mean, actually the, the main guy in Twinless is kind of the villain.

He's the dick. Yeah. The main. Yeah, James for, he is. And, but like, you know, Dylan O'Brien,

by the way, he played, um, he played Dan Acroid in that Saturday night movie.

I really have to see that movie because I, every time I'm interested in an actor's performance,

it's like, oh, they were also in Saturday night. It's like when, it's like when you look up an actor

and they were definitely in the 2012 Lincoln movie. It's like Saturday night was like a repository

for all of today's actors. So I have to watch it. That's hilarious. Well, I would,

I would definitely watch anniversary before I would watch, before I'd watch Saturday night. But

anyway, send help. You, you saw, you saw it on the big screen and, and, uh, and it's not,

I mean, it's not technically a horror movie, but there's horror elements in it. And, and,

and, and, and, and it's definitely like, horror comedy. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Cause that's that,

that's that Remy touch, right? Like there were certain things in the movie where I'm laughing out

loud and not necessarily just because of what's in the movie, but because it's such a signature

Sam Remy thing, like, um, during the, you know, they could have just made a plane crash and make it

a plane crash, but like they did this gruesome thing where a guy's neck tie was caught and then his

face is slamming into the window and Rachel McCatum's just slowly pulls the shade down over the

window and it was so pitch perfect. I just, the movie was giving me everything it knew I wanted

out of it. You know, I agree. I totally agree. I've seen it three times. The, um, I'm a big

Remy guy and, and, uh, I mean, the bore scene alone is worth the price of admission. Uh,

is the amount of, the amount of blood and there's, and there's an actual, you know, there's an

actual scene in the movie where, uh, we almost get like an evil dead visit. Uh, because there's a

jump scare. There's a horror film jump scare right in the middle of the, right. There's really no

need for it, but it's great. Right. That's the unnecessary jump scare in any movie is so funny to

me. Like, even, even rewatching sinners, like, there was like, uh, you know, they're pulling things

off of a truck and then a rattlesnake pops up and then there's like a sting of, um, string music.

And I'm just like, this is so funny because I can see you trying to manipulate me, but it does

work. Like, yeah, even though I know what you're doing. Yeah. And, and, and in the, and I don't,

I don't want to give anything away, uh, because sent help has a fantastic twist in the last, like,

15 minutes, um, uh, you know, where something is unveiled. Um, and I have to say the first time I

saw it, I didn't see that coming. Um, no, um, and I have to say that like the weekend had opened.

I went with Julie. We went to see it. And we saw it like in, you know, like the ultra screen.

There's a, there's a, there's the Marcus cinemas. There's a bunch of Marcus cinemas in the suburbs.

And, um, uh, Julie and I, um, went out to, uh, she took, we took her dog Trixie to the dog park

in Tinley Park that we go to because it's like, it's literally eight acres where the dogs can just

run around. It's unbelievable. It's on, it's amazing. And so we go there with, uh, Julie's dog

Trixie and then like, um, Julie's sister Kathleen has two dogs as well, Trotsky and Nichols.

And we go out to the dog park and then usually grab something and maybe see a movie afterward. So

we did the dog park and we were in Tinley. So we went to this Marcus cinema. And so instead of iMacs,

they have this thing called ultra screen, which is essentially iMacs. It's a giant screen.

And that's where we saw some. Oh, that's fun. Like the blobs have looked amazing. Oh, it was

unbelievable. And they had a blast like Julie and, uh, and Kathleen had a blast. But they saw

the twist coming. They were like, you know, they, yeah, they did. They were like at the end. And I

was like, yeah, so then the blah, blah, blah happened. And they're like, oh, yeah, we kind of saw

that coming. I'm like, what? Wow. And I mean, I guess I'm not the type. There are, there are

moviegoers who are trying to anticipate, or like untangle things. I am not one of them. And so

I do like movies just kind of wash over me. I'm the same way. I'm absolutely the same way.

Unless it's like blatantly obvious. And then I'm like, okay, I know where this is going. But I

was having so much fun with it, you know, just from scene to scene, just how unbelievably entertaining

and over the top it was and how great Rachel McAdams is. And it's, you know, I mean, she's so good at it.

And I mean, they're both good. It's a two person show and they're both amazing. But I was having

just so much fun. I didn't really like when it happened. I went, oh, that's crazy. Okay, cool.

I'm with her career. Like I love that she made a choice like this. And I hope that she makes

equally weird choices. Yeah, into the future because she's so talented. And she really like

never phones anything in. And now I love her. I think she's fantastic. And for people who have not

seen it a couple of years ago, she starred in the adaptation is, are you there? God, it's me, Margaret.

And people said that was fantastic. It's an amazing movie, Marty. And I am not, I am not a teenage

girl who is having her first period at all. I'm like a middle-aged, well older than middle-aged

guy. And I adored that movie. And I thought it was great. And she played the mom. She's the mother.

And she's amazing. And it's a tremendous, and I mean, obviously mean girls goes without saying.

I mean, just like she's, I love her. I think she's great. Yeah, she's a treasure. She really is

going to be like one of the actors remembered from this generation. Agreed. By the way, and

speaking of horror, I don't know if you've ever seen this movie, but Rachel McAdams is in a great

West Craven thriller. Which one? Red Eye. Oh, red eye. Yes, of course. I just watched Red Eye for

the first time a couple years ago. What a ride? Her and Killian Murphy. I mean, come on. You know,

like you want to talk about two of the biggest hottest names right now, you know? Yeah. And this

was like 2000, I don't know, 10 or something. Maybe even earlier. Yeah. So the funny thing about

Red Eye is that tends to every few years have a renaissance online where seemingly everyone is

streaming Red Eye because of what you're talking about where it's like Rachel McAdams and Killian

Murphy are much bigger now than they ever were then. Exactly. And so seeing them in that movie

together is like such an interesting example of where careers can go. And it's just a blast.

It's very suspenseful. It's scary, beautifully directed by West Craven. Here's another great

thing about that movie, Marnie. I don't know if you remember this or not. It's like 87 minutes long.

My favorite. That's the horror genre for you. The horror genre never makes you wait. Yeah,

it's a tight, tight, you know, scary, suspenseful movie. It's really cool. So if people are,

you know, if you've seen sent help and you like Rachel McAdams and that in that genre,

you got to check out Red Eye. It's really cool. Yeah. Oh, now I just want to rewatch it.

It's so good. It's so good. But I'm glad you like sent help. It's a blast. It's such a blast.

I'll definitely. It has rewatched potential on streaming for sure. Yeah, without question.

And the other one is an interesting one. I can't wait to hear what you think of it because I,

you know, I have some thoughts about it about this next one. So yeah. Yeah. So I saw undertone,

which is an A24 horror about podcasting that came out. I technically, I think it might have

like come out in limited distribution last year because it is cited as like a 2025 film.

But I saw it at the LMO a couple of weekends ago. Yeah. It's technically, I mean,

like Eric and Steve, my two guys, they saw it film festivals, but it is technically a 2026 release.

Okay. Even though it did, it did open up in a couple of, but it was mostly film festivals,

but it's big release through A24 was in February. So okay. Okay. Yeah. I mean, the funny thing about

when I saw it was that I was dealing with a horror show of my own because I did not realize

that I booked tickets to the LMO draft house on Clark Street on the Saturday before St. Patrick's

Day. So I'm walking over there in like a veritable post apocalyptic landscape with like,

you know, like milk jugs, formerly full of alcohol just lining the streets and people wandering

around stumbling. And I mean, it was a scene. And then half the people in the theater were coming

straight from Clark Street bars. Yeah. So it was kind of a fun crowd to see it with. I will tell you

this. I will say this. I hate the LMO. I hate that place. I completely understand that view. And

like if these movies play other places, the LMO is never where I choose to see a movie. You know,

like if the Times workout or if it's like the only place that has something, but I personally just

don't understand how the business model works because there's like five seats in a theater. Like

everything's sold out every time. Yeah. But not with enough over like the maybe they just make

everything on the food and beverage sales. There's no question that's what that's what happens

because people get shit. There's just not enough seats. I hate that place. And I've only been there

twice. And actually the first time I went there, I said I was never going to go back. And I've not

I've I've only gone there for screenings. So I've not gone to a public showing. Yeah. So they had

there was a press screening for the only the only time that I went there or the one time I went

to the first time I went there was press screening for Bo is afraid. Okay. Uh-huh. Have you seen Bo is

afraid? I have not. I suspect it's not my kind of movie. It's the it's like the it's the

area actors follow up to hereditary and midsummer. But it's not good. It's not good. It's

like Phoenix. And it's like three and a half hours long. It's it's sucked. But anyway, I hated it.

I that there were servers running up and down the aisles while I was trying to watch the movie.

People taught drinking and their orders and likes. And I hated it. I hated it. And then they do a

last call like they come by. Last call. Last call. I'm like, I get, you know, and then like they are

being as subtle as they can possibly be. But like it's people running around during the movie. So if

you don't want that distraction, it's there. Yeah. And people are like loud in the theater. And then

I went to see another screening and I vowed I'd never go there. But I wanted to see it. And it was

this movie called splitsville. And and the only reason I went to it was like one of the only

screenings. And I was like, I'll just wait until it opened. But I happen to really deeply, deeply,

I'm deeply in love with Dakota Johnson. Yes. And I heard she was good in it. She's fantastic.

She's great and everything. And so I was like, well, I'll go this is and then I posted on my on

my social. So I'm like, I said that I was at Alamo. And everybody knows my feelings about that place.

But I was like, this is how much I love Dakota Johnson. I'm at the Alamo Drafthouse right now.

That's regal city north for me. I'm always like never again, never again. But then it's the only

place that they play certain things. And I'm like, I will spend so much money at this place I hate.

Yeah. It's it also. It's the only thing. I don't hate that place as much as everybody else.

Everybody hates that place. I don't hate as much as everybody else does. But but it's also in the city,

it's the only place to see I max. Yes. Exactly. It's like a it's like the devil's bargain.

I went there a couple of weeks ago. I mean, again, I don't I don't dislike city north. So I'm fine with it.

But but I went there a couple of weeks ago to see Tommy, the 50th anniversary of the who's Tommy

in IMAX. It was fantastic. But yeah, but but anyway, so you went to Alamo to see undertone.

Yes. And so the crowd was so funny because A24 is already like this very

heady brand of horror, right? And this was no exception. They're obviously trying to make it like,

oh, it's a slow burn. It's a thinker. It's about more than just the horror, you know, like so it

was kind of hitting all those notes. But seeing it in a St. Patrick's Day Clark Street crowd was

just funny because it's like, they're all kind of treating it like it's a slasher. Like they are

trying to engage with it as if it's full of like jump scares and stuff, which it's really not

until like there is a part near the end where it becomes like, oh, holy shit, things are happening.

And at one point, like there's like a, you know, a big thing that happens and then there's that

moment in the horror movie where the things calm down for a second. And you just hear this guy go,

that was so scary. And he was being so genuine that everybody else kind of laughed. But yeah, you

know, it was like, I'll remember that more than I will remember the movie, I think. Like it was

a perfectly pleasant way to spend an hour and a half. And I thought I was very impressed because

it's basically a movie with one star. It's just Nina Curie talking into a microphone. And I'm sure

you can attest to the fact that this is not at all how podcasts work or are recorded. They do not

happen the way that they happen in this movie. But like who feel who records a podcast for like 15

minutes at a time in the middle of the night? It's just like ridiculous. But yeah. But I thought that

like the framing device was interesting. Her relationship to caring for her ailing mother was

interesting. And she's just like a very charismatic performer. So she really, I can only imagine like

if they had a less skilled actress at the helm, this would be unwatchable. Yeah. But yeah, I thought

it was like totally fine. You know, it was, it was, here's the thing. I was kind of with it for

about 40 minutes or so, about 45 minutes. And then to me, because I think the last 20 minutes

is ridiculous. But, but like I really liked, and I don't know what it was like at the, at the

Alamo, but I saw it in the, they screened it for the critics in the Dolby theater at River East.

So the sound was amazing. And, and, and, and it is a movie about sound. That's exactly what it is.

And, and so instead of doing like visual jump scares, there's a lot of audio jump scares in it.

And it's about the audio. And it's about like, you know, and I think it's really beautiful.

Some of that's really beautifully done in the first part of the movie, where it's just her and

her sick mother. And they're the only two people that you see on screen, like her, her podcast

partner, you only hear his voice. The nurse who shows up, you don't see her. And, you know, the

phone call that she has with her boyfriend, you don't see anybody. The only person that you see

is her and her and her dying mother upstairs. And, and, and that sort of claustrophobic feeling

is really well done. Um, and I do happen to record, uh, and I work, you know,

she was sitting at a dining room table. I'm sitting at a dining room table right now.

In my apartment, there's some very similar to there. Yeah, there is. But, but, but again, like,

like the technical stuff is, is, is, is, is horseshit. But, but like the, the, the actual like,

I will sometimes if I can't sleep, I'll record a segment for a podcast here or pre-record stuff.

So I've recorded it two, three in the morning at a dining room table. So I was like, oh,

this. Okay. That's pretty cool. Now, when you do that, do you summon demonic

um, sessions? But I thought the sound design was really nice and the setup is good. And,

again, you mentioned she's great. The, the actress is great. She carries the movie and she's fantastic

in it. Um, I just think it gets really silly during the last like, uh, 20 minutes. It almost felt

like the movie was like, hey, you stuck with us this far. We'll give you some of that horror

stuff that you like so much. Like, it almost felt like fan service more than it served the story.

I agree with you 100%. And I do, and I might be the only person that felt this way while I watched it.

But I got a very weird, and this, I might be reading something into it, but it's there.

But I got a very weird and uncomfortable feeling watching the movie because at one point in the

movie, um, because there's this religious iconography throughout the entire movie. Yeah. Uh, you

know, and the story about how the mother prayed with her, prayed her before she went to sleep,

and uh, there's religious pictures. There's, you know, crucifixes and crosses and pictures of

Jesus all over the place and rosaries and all, all that stuff and prayer and like, you know,

God is a big thing in the, in her mother's life. Um, and then you find out at one point that she's

pregnant. And there is like a, that's just kind of a subplot. The character is pregnant. And I'm

not ruining anything. They say that in the first like 15 minutes of the movie. But to me, there's

that this weird suddenly like towards as the movie is building to the weird crazy climax,

there's this weird subtext that I felt where it's like, this is punishment. Like she's receiving

punishment for the possibility that she might get an abortion. Yes. Okay. I'm so glad you say this

because when I left the movie with my friend, they were like, did we just watch a weirdly subtly

pro life for a movie? And I'm like, I'm glad I know. Okay. I thought I was kind of alone on that.

But what I was like, this is kind of bullshit, man. Uh, you know, like, I thought it was kind of

like pro life kind of anti abortion in the, in the subtext was like, you listen to your mom,

you pray to God and you have that baby. And I'm like, what the fuck? The iconography,

they keep showing is the Virgin Mary. Absolutely. Absolutely. And if the movie and the demon,

if I'm not mistaken, I'm sorry to interrupt it. And the demon also was the killer of babies.

Like the demon, if you remember. And I'm like, wait a minute. What the? So there to me,

it's there. Maybe I'm reading too much into it. But I yeah, like in addition to it,

getting like sort of generic and stupid at the end, I was like, hey, this is really kind of an

anti, you know, anti abortion kind of pro life thing happening. And I don't like that at all.

That's exactly it. It's like if this movie had been some runaway hit and like everyone was

seeing it, I do think that would have to be a conversation that critics have in engaging with

the movie and like telling people like, we got to think about this as it is being like a random

movie that comes out in February that like no one saw. I can just watch it and be like,

some decent scares in there. But like, you're absolutely right. I wonder if there has been

critical writing about this. I would like to let this movie sell you on a very particular world view.

I don't know much about the filmmaker. You know what I mean? I didn't need a lot about the

filmmaker. But that was like, like, after I saw the movie, that was what stayed with me. You know,

like, I thought, like I said, I thought it started out great in the first 45 minutes to an hour.

It's really beautifully done and like carried by a great performance by her. Then it just gets

silly. Like you said, then it becomes a horror movie. You know, like, here it is. You've waited.

But then when it was all over, I was like, wait a minute. Was that kind of like a pro like?

Okay. I'm so glad that you got that too. Because like, you know, the people who weren't going to

catch that were the drunk people coming in off of Clarkshire. No offense to them, but they were

there for that. I don't think under tone was terrible. I just thought it fell apart in the end.

So, and I loved send help. So, so not a bad, not a bad round here for. No, I was, I was happy.

Yeah. Very cool. Very, very cool. Okay. Let's talk about mortified and then we'll get into

the food stuff. Mortified. Tell everybody what mortified is and and how they can get involved.

And when we can see the show on April 17th at Lincoln Hall, I'm so excited.

Sure. Yeah. So mortified is a stage show that's been running for more than 20 years.

It's in Chicago and LA and a number of other cities across the country.

It is people getting up on stage and sharing with an audience of total strangers,

the cringe-worthy stuff they created as angsty adolescents. So this is journal entries,

this is love letters. They may be wrote and never sent artwork. They made music videos. They shot,

you know, all the things that mortify us as adults. But the idea is that by getting up on stage

and sharing who you were then and who you are now, you will expunge the shame and will all share

in it together. And so it's this very like cathartic stage experience. And mortified has shows

three to four times a year. But this time in April, we're doing something new. We are doing a fundraiser.

And we are on April 17th at Lincoln Hall. We're doing a special mortified show called Minnesota

Nice, a fundraiser for the Minnesota Immigrant Rights Action Committee. And so all proceeds will go

to that organization. And yeah, it's going to be people with some connection to the Twin Cities

sharing their stories or maybe sharing stories about like a that haven't a vaguely anti-authoritarian

bent to them, you know, like rebellious teens and things like that. So we're really excited for

the theming for the opportunity to give back because this city has been so good to the show.

And we would just absolutely love to pack that house. So tickets are available at the Lincoln Hall website.

They're $25 plus fees. And yeah, like tell your friends this one's going to be special.

Yeah. And it's on April 17th, the beautiful Lincoln Hall. You guys enjoy, you enjoy performing

at the Lincoln Hall. We love working with Lincoln Hall. Yeah, it's awesome. And if you've never been

there, like, what a chill place to see a show. I think that the layout of that theater, the size of it,

it's just like, it feels intimate no matter where you're sitting and it's a it's a warm space, you know.

Yeah. April 17th and it's for a great cause. The Minnesota Immigrant Rights Action Committee.

So get your tickets now. You can go to you can go to mortified get mortified.com.

That's right. Get mortified.com. There's also a list of shows coming up. And also on get mortified.com,

you can click participate because if you have mortifying adolescent material, we absolutely want to

see it. We always need new people to join the crew. So yeah, like the way it works is you submit

things. And if it's a fit for a show, you don't just get up there and read it. You work with story

producers to help you sort of figure out the threads and what you want to say. And you end up

with this like 10 minute long arc that is, you know, very well received by your audience.

And it's it's all there's there's nothing but empathy in the audience, by the way. And you have

in your laugh and you have a great time. But you're also rooting for the person on stage. And I know

there's some people who have never performed before. There are people who walk up there have never

walked on stage before or spoken before before an audience. And it's really lovely to see how the

audience is supportive and how fun it is. And and everybody has done embarrassing stuff in their

lives. Everybody everyone. And that's why it's like no one would ever, no one would ever judge you

up there because we've we've all got our things. Yeah. Absolutely. So it's really you guys do such a

great job. So go to get mortified.com. The fundraiser for Minnesota is on Friday, April 17th at the

beautiful Lincoln Hall. And it benefits the Minnesota immigrant rights action committee. And always

guaranteed great night. So mortified live on April 17th at Lincoln Hall. So go to get mortified.com

and order your tickets now. So there you go. All right. Cool. All right. Let's get into some food

stuff here. Everybody wants to save to save money because everything costs so much.

I'm telling you, I went to the grocery store yesterday to just pick up some staples for the week.

It was a hundred dollars. It was a hundred dollars for one person. I'm one person. Yeah. No, it's

insane. It is insane. Sometimes I'll just jump over and like try to pick a few things up. And it's

like yeah, you're not going to spend less than 50 bucks even if you're just going for quick stuff.

Like you said, a hundred bucks. Yeah. It's amazing. So we want to look at how we can save a little

dough. So for food and wine, you wrote about the best produce to buy. And everybody is, you know,

wants to have fresh produce. There's nothing better than fresh produce in your fridge, you know.

And so what's the bet you wrote about how to cut down on spending and getting some great

some great produce? Yeah. I mean, I think that this is certainly true of me. And I think it's

true of a lot of people. You think of produce fresh produce as the boogey or option, the one that's

going to take the most time, the one that's the most expensive. And it's, it's really not like the,

the more prepared the stuff you buy, like the more expensive it is. And I know that might sound

obvious in hindsight, but like when I get a basket full of fresh produce, I am spending so much

less than when I try to, you know, cheat my way to an easier meal because like there really isn't

anything easier than like shoving a potato in the oven, you know what I mean? It doesn't take that

long. So I think it's important to think about fresh produce as a way to save money, not something

to avoid when you're trying to save money. Yeah, it says. Yeah. Yeah. And like some of the cheap

vegetables you might roll your eyes like celery, it is one of the most cost effective vegetables.

I understand though, celery is like high water content. It, it, it's kind of feeling like in the

moment because it's got like the rough edge to it. But like, yeah, you, you have to supplement that

right? Like with some cottage cheese or some peanut butter or something or, you know, that,

that you got to work to make celery a hefty part of your meal. But that's not true of a lot of

other produce that's really inexpensive. Bananas being a good example. Bananas like are genuinely

quite filling. They have the high potassium content. They've got starchiness. And you know,

you can pair them with a lot. You can put them in a smoothie. You can eat it plain. You can take

it with you. So like, I'm always a big banana booster. It's my, it's my favorite fruit, banana.

Yeah. Yeah. It's a workhorse. Yeah. And then like potatoes and sweet potatoes, like, come on now.

There's, we all know the myriad things you can do with a potato. But even like, you know,

I had leftover chili. And it was like enough for maybe like one extra portion. But then I roasted

a cubed sweet potato. And then like, it became two portions of chili because you just mix the

chili with the sweet potato. And then it's like much more filling. And it makes it so that you don't

have to buy as much meat. Like if you can, if you can fill up on some of the produce like, you know,

and get your protein in the form of beans or something because meats really a quite an expensive

spend. Carrots, I think carrots are so nice to have around. But, but don't go for the babies.

Go for the big ones. And then just peel them. They are sweeter. They are far more delicious

than the baby carrots. The baby carrots can have like a bitter edge to them. Yeah. They go

bad faster because they have more moisture. So just buy regular carrots. If you peel them,

you don't even really have to wash them. And it's true. Yeah, like just, you know, just cheat your

way to a delicious snack. Yeah, because you're peeling off all the dirt. So that's the way I look

at it. The part inside has not touched dirt in a while. Yeah. Yeah. And it's interesting.

Because I mean, carrots are, I mean, everything is relatively expensive. But carrots, especially if

you're buying like you were just saying like the baby carrots are the bag carrots. We're talking

like the stuff that you're talking about is the fresh stuff, like not the pre bag, not the salad

mixes, that kind of stuff. If you buy that again, as you were saying that that's kind of cheating,

it's also a hell of a lot more expensive. Yeah. Yeah. The bag like the salad kits can go on sale

for nice prices. Like I saw them for $2 a bag yesterday. Yeah. But you know, that's that's kind

of a fluke whereas like there's everyday value in in the fresh produce. And it tends to be more

stable in its price. Yeah. Unless there's like a recall or a shortage, you know. So keep an eye

out for those. But but my favorite one, like I got to say I am having a love affair with cabbage

right now. I love cabbage. Yeah. I don't know how you feel about cabbage. No, I love cat. Well,

you know, you mentioned St. Patrick's Day. And by the way, when you went to when you went to see

undertone on the Saturday before St. Patrick's Day, Julie and I and a couple of friends from out of

town went to go see that David burn show. Oh, yeah. Yeah. How was it? I wasn't crazy about it. But

that everybody else seemed to think it's great. But it was a preview. I will say it didn't open

until the 25th and we saw it on but we, you know, like Julie got the tickets and we made the

reservations and we didn't even think, oh, March 14th. Okay. Whatever. And we didn't realize that

it was the day they that they died the damn river. And and and the theater of the mind what we're

talking about here, this David burn show theater of the mind. I don't know if you know where it's

located, but it's right on the Los Sal bridge. Oh my god. How did you get that? Did you try to drive?

Yeah, we did. And it was a nightmare. And we had a parking spot. We did the old spot hero thing.

Had a parking spot in the parking lot right across the river from the space. But getting down

there was a nightmare. And when we walked out, we just all we had to do was walk like three blocks.

It was on because we were right on the river. And we went to a matinee at 1245.

No. Yeah. It was. So we both made similar mistakes. Exactly. We made similar mistakes. But

the next day, you know, like after we had that, we made corn beef and cabbage for for

Sympathic thing. And the cabbage was fantastic. It was delicious. And we, you know, we got it fresh

and we, we did it right and we cooked it with the corn beef. And it was, it was lovely. And

it still had a crunch to it. You know, sometimes you get the corn beef in cabbage and the cabbage

is a little floppy and not crunchy. Yeah. Yeah. So we did it right. But yes, I love cabbage. I love

cabbage. Yeah, it's, it's so versatile because like that meal of cabbage is a world apart from

the cabbage I made last night, which is just like sauteing it on the stove. It caramelizes kind

of like onions. It gets real sweet, but it's much faster. It caramelizes much faster than onions.

And so I caramelized it and then like added like a little sesame oil, a little rice vinegar,

a little um, uh, sambal, olec chili paste. Um, it's delicious. Like you don't, you don't even need

to add anything to it. Obviously, you need to add like protein or whatever, but to make it a full

meal. But it was awesome. And like it was my favorite thing that I ate. And it's so easy. Cabbage

lasts forever in your fridge or in like a pantry, you know, a cool dark place. Yep. Yep. And

it's so cheap. And you can like one head of cabbage, like I, it's split into two meals for me.

Like it's, it's just they're enormous and cheap. And I just think cabbage is much more versatile

than we give it credit for. We've always, you know, I, I always grew up with corn beef and cabbage

kind of as the only application I knew. But you can make it, um, you, you can even like, you know,

make pasta with like half cabbage. And then it's not quite so fill it, you know, like it,

it, it gives you a little more like heft without like, I don't know, pasta makes me real sleepy.

It's like the car crash, right? Yeah. Um, and so like mixing it with like half cabbage is really

fun. There's smothered cabbage stuffed cabbage. Um, I just love it. And I think that it's like a

really good way to like, if you build that into your weeknight meals, you will see like a, um,

commensurate cost savings. And you know, in the, in the, in the, in the, in the, in the,

in the, in the piece that you wrote here, you do talk, you know, you get into detail about how much

money you're saving and how much it is per cup. Um, I wanted to make sure that people know that,

like, um, you know, the article is not only about like really cool vegetables that you can have,

but it also shows, it explains to you how much you're saving and how much it's, you know,

and how much it costs. Um, yeah, there's some good, um, like USDA, like consumer data on that,

and they do the research every year because, you know, obviously prices can fluctuate, but, um,

yeah, like, you know, you're talking like 43 cents a cup for carrots. Like that's, that's, uh,

not a price you see on a lot of other things at the grocery store right now. Yeah, that's true.

And then you do talk about onions, which, uh, which I love onions. Who doesn't love an onion?

Yeah, but, you know, you don't have to wait for them to caramelize on the stove. Like,

sometimes if you just like rough chop an onion and throw it into the oven with like some, uh,

like cubed potatoes roast them all up together, like, that's, that's great. They get some nice

char. They get some nice flavor. They caramelize a little bit without you having to make your whole

house smell like onions. It's awesome. Yeah. Yeah. It's fantastic. So I suggest everybody check out

this article, uh, and, uh, and you'll, you'll get some great ideas on how to prepare,

and also how much money you're saving, uh, just in the world of, uh, veggies. Now,

I want to know, uh, I, I, I've always wondered about the secrets of soy sauce. So, of soy sauce.

Yes. Uh, but now you're basically specifically the soy sauce, uh, that we're talking about, uh,

is kiko min soy sauce and why it has two spouts. Yes. And I did, I, I did wonder about that.

This is something that actually is going through my mind. Now I love soy sauce. I do. I, uh,

I think it's fantastic. And I will add it to anything. So anything. Yeah. I love it. I love it.

Is it like, if, if, if I'm kind of one of those people that like I'll add, I'll add soy sauce to,

to, to, to things that I'm cooking that require more salt. And I'll just throw soy sauce in sometimes,

uh, to give it a little bit more. Yeah. It's a little more interesting than just adding salt, right? Yeah,

to give it a little bit of a different flavor, but to add the sodium sort of like need that we all

have. So I don't know. I'm a big fan. So, but there, but I didn't, I'm not sure why until I read your

piece, uh, why there are two, two, two spouts for the kiko min. Yes. So kiko min, you might have seen it

not every kiko min bottle comes like this, but there's the, there's that classic design where it's

kind of wide on the bottom almost looks like, uh, like a sake, uh, uh, uh, craft. Like it's,

it's wide on the bottom, then it goes narrow. And then the cap, the red cap flares out again.

So it's kind of got this curvature to it. Yes. Um, and the cap has two spouts. Like they,

they flare outward from the top and there's one on each side. Yeah. Um, and I had never really

thought about it before. I mean, this bottle is much older than I am. So I've just always taken it

for granted, but it is designed that way for a few different reasons. Um, the, and this is by

the way, the product of hundreds of prototypes. Um, it was developed in 1961. The kiko min bottle is

literally, uh, in the archives at MoMA because of its design. Oh, no kidding. Yeah. Like it is a work

of art that we've, we've never appreciated before. So yeah, it's got the, the wide base makes it

harder to tip over because that is not something you want spilling all over your food or your table.

And then it comes to that narrow neck to sort of control the flow. But then the flared out cap,

the, the holes in the cap are at like a 45 degree angle with the tabletop. And that is,

so that it doesn't drip. So, you know, you, you think about like the spout on like a, like a coffee pot

or something, that comes outward from the base. Yeah. This kind of tucks in so that once you stop

pouring, the drips don't collect in like a spout and drip onto your tablecloth. Um, yeah, I thought

that was a fun little added benefit. But the reason that there are two holes, one, they literally call

the control hole. So if you, if you put your thumb over the one hole while pouring,

the soy sauce will only come out at a small drip, which given how strong the soy sauce flavor is,

that sometimes all you want. Like on a piece of sushi, like you might just want to drop it to.

But then if you're pouring it into like a serving dish on the side, then you let go of that hole

and then it flows nicely. And the narrow neck controls the flow so that it's not glugging

and splashing. So they're like very much looking out for you in your tablecloth with all these design

choices. I didn't know any of that. I just assumed it was, maybe you can pour it from one end

or the other and it didn't matter. But one is the control hole. I would have never known. Yeah,

and it's kind of the same principle. Have you ever done that thing where you take a straw that's

in a cup of water and you put your finger over one end and then the the liquid stays in the straw?

It's like the same principle. Wow, that's pretty cool. I did not know that. And I also didn't know

that this work of art was in MoMA. I had no idea. Oh, yeah. And and it's, there's a Kikuman

soy sauce museum as well in Japan, where it is also on display. But yeah, I just think that,

I just think it's one of those great things that is it's been so successful as to become invisible

to us. But then when you stop and think about it, it's like this is really interesting. I have

such an appreciation for this grocery store soy sauce now. That's great. That's fantastic.

All right, cool. And you can read that at simply recipes. And that's out there right now. Okay,

cool. Is there anything that you're looking forward to that food wise that you're going to be

writing about within the next couple of weeks or so? Yeah. For the Easter season over at Simply

Recipes, I will be publishing something this week about jelly beans. So be on the lookout.

Awesome. All right. Now we always do a lot about jelly beans. Well, yeah, jelly beans. It's

candy time. Everybody, it's time for candy. It is Easter. Another excuse for us to jam our face

is full of sugary products, which is awesome. Now speaking of sugary products, we usually do a

taste test here. I was not able to find the product that you found because I didn't have a lot of

time. I got home late blah, blah, blah, blah. I didn't have time to go and I checked up my

Walgreens across the street. And it wasn't available. But we do sometimes do a wonderful taste test.

You are going to do a taste test for us. Tell us what you're about to chow down on and this new

crazy little product. Yeah, not a chow down so much as a tentative nibble. I'm sure. But it's

M&M's has right now M&M's is debuting what they call the bakery collection of three different

flavors of M&M peanut butter cinnamon roll, cherry chocolate cupcake, and lemon meringue pie,

the letter of which I have in front of me. So you have the lemon? I've tried the others.

Okay. And I can't do cherry. Cherry is something that I can't. I'm not going to go into the

explanation as to why, but I'm not a big cherry guy. So I won't do the other one. The other one

sounds delicious peanut butter cinnamon roll. Well, here's my question about this. Have you ever

heard, like, is a peanut butter cinnamon roll a thing that exists? No, I'm only thinking it's a

peanut butter cinnamon roll because it's an M&M. That's the only. Right. I feel that the words

peanut butter cinnamon roll were a I generated. But I did give those a taste and like ultimately

came up with that. That was clawed. Yeah. That seems very clawed coated because nobody I've talked to

has ever heard of a peanut butter. No, I haven't. And I've never heard of it. But the only reason I

thought, okay, well, they're throwing it in there because M&Ms have the peanut and the peanut butter

M&Ms. So that's the only reason I thought they were trying to combine them. Well, that's ultimately

what it tastes like is that they were like, hmm, let's just put peanut butter M&Ms in a bag and

give it a new name and charge more per M&M. Oh, I see. Yeah, it was just a it's just a bag of peanut

butter M&Ms, which are great. But like I was not getting any cinnamon flavor whatsoever. Oh, man. Oh,

that sucks. Okay. Yeah. And then cherry chocolate cupcake is just like a regular M&M with like cherry

essence added. I was pretty unimpressed with it. It didn't do anything new texturally. It was just,

you know, like I was kind of bored, but I will say I brought them to a party where some people were

really into them. Okay. So maybe it just depends on how much you're looking for that cherry

flavoring. So now you're going with lemon meringue, lemon meringue, high flavored M&Ms. Yes,

and they look like they might have a crispy center based on the illustration on the bag.

Maybe to like simulate the crust and the meringue crunch and stuff. Okay. All right. Well, I'm curious.

Now you were you were underwhelmed by the other two special flavors. I was. Okay. Well, let's see.

I'm already feel. Oh, what happened? I just opened the bag and I got hit with such a wave of like

pine saw lemon scent. Oh my god. Okay. So it's okay. I'm going to I'm going to eat one.

Um, okay. Interesting. If you ate these blindfolded, you would never know that you're eating M&M

because it's that white cream in the middle. It's not chocolate. Okay. And I'm sure that's why

they made it, by the way, because with chocolate prices being what they are, this white cream is

a lot cheaper to produce. There you go. I mean, they call it white chocolate, but like, you know,

it doesn't have the cocoa solids. Um, okay. I'm I'm I'm displeased to report that these are

growing on me because they're really crispy in the middle. The lemon is tempered by the cream of

the white chocolate. Oh, okay. And um, these might be the best of the collection. Wow.

The bakery collection. Okay. So these are actually a real surprise to me. Wow. I would never

choose this off the shelf unless I was doing a taste test. But yeah, I mean, these can stay. I

wouldn't be mad. Awesome. Okay. Cool. Very, very cool. All right. Well, they're, you know, I

said one out of three. One out of three. Very fun to crunch in the very, very fun to crispy crunchy

candy addition to the pantry. And it and it does have a lemony, lemony, meringue-y flavor.

It does. Yeah. Lemon is not hard to get right just because it's so strong, you know. Right,

right. Okay. That's great. Oh, I'm happy. I'm happy that you liked them, especially since you told

me off, you told me off the air that you actually had to buy a big bag of them. So night. So I've

got the giant resealable. So, you know, good news for me. Good news for you that you actually

enjoyed it. Okay. That's fantastic. All right. Cool. Well, listen, have a fabulous Easter.

Thank you, you as well. We will talk again, probably near the end of April. And we'll do another

monthly visit and watch some horror and everybody. Get your tickets for the April 17th mortified

live at Lincoln Hall. Get your tickets now. Go to get mortified.com and get those tickets.

Marnie, you're always a delight. Okay. And I will talk to you next time. All right. Thanks.

There you go. That's Marnie. Sure. She rules the planet. You know, who else rules the planet?

Esmeral Deliana. She's coming up right now.

There it is. Esmeral De Leon's theme song right here on the NICD podcast. So it's time to talk

to Esmeral De Leon. Hi, Esmeral De. Hello. How are you? I'm doing good. How are you? I'm all right.

How was your weekend? Did you have a fun weekend? I was all right. Yeah. Nothing crazy.

Watch anything on the TVs. Um, we watched. Oh, we watched recently. This great movie, my brother

recommended. Okay. Uh, called Things Change. Oh, my God, David Mammoth. Don Amici. Yeah.

Cocoon. Yeah. And, and, and, and Montenegro. Yeah. It's great. It's a great. It's a beautiful movie.

And your brother, your brother recommended that one. That's cool. Yeah. He's, he's been, he, um,

he, he goes around to be just watching things for like 10 minutes and then stops and then

watches the next thing and then watch it. So the fact that he watched the whole thing was

quiet. It's a big thing. Yeah. It's a big deal. Not a great movie. And it's very, um,

it's very unlike Mammoth. Cause you know, Mammoth's always like, fuck this and fuck that and,

you know, like anti-women and stuff. Um, that's Mammoth. But this is really, it's really sweet.

Move Mici's great in it, man. Don Amici's great. Oh, it's so good. Yeah. That's cool. That's,

that's one of those, but that's it. I'm glad you brought that one up. That's a movie that doesn't

get, it doesn't get, um, sort of recognized or talked enough about, um, so yeah, that's

cool. And it's on two beam. It is on the two bees. You can find everything in two bees.

Anyone wants to watch it? Yeah. It's so good. And it's great because there's a shot of

uptown that it's been the, the, the main part of the shot is this hardware store under the,

yeah, the train, which is still there. Yeah. So it's just fun to see that you're like,

oh, it's that hardware store. Yeah. So the fact that it's still there. It's fun to go back and watch

movies that were shot in Chicago a while ago. Cause that movie was in the 80s. So that's like,

that movie's almost 40 years old, uh, maybe like, uh, 37, 38 years old. Um, yes, well,

a lot changes, but that's cool. It's still there. You're absolutely right. I love going back and

watching, watching movies from Chicago in the old days and you look and go, oh, man, remember

that. Um, yeah. But yeah, that was, that was it. That's a really, really good movie. And, um,

full of Chicago actors, full of David Mammoth guys, um, uh, nice, like, uh, take on, nice,

kind of an interesting take on mobsters and stuff too. Um, yeah, just a good movie. A really,

really solid movie. And that's, and your brother actually watched the whole thing. Did your brother,

like, yeah, that's like his pattern. It's like, all right. That's enough of that. I'm changing.

Yeah, he is. If you wouldn't, um, if you see his 2B, whatever, because it, it shows you, like,

what you've watched or continue watching, and all that, he apparently has like a, just a bunch,

just a bunch of stuff that he started. He'll put something on. Yeah, he'll start it for a little

bit just to see. And then like, if he's just not in, and he's like, ah, and then he changes it.

Yeah. Okay. Well, he got into things change. I wonder how we, did he, did he, did he just say

how he found it? Or was he just like, it just suggested it or to him or something? Maybe,

he probably suggested it. I mean, you just kind of roll, stroll around through the, the,

the categories and stuff and things just pop up. Yeah. He was watching. What's the

mammoth where they're on that boat? Oh, lake boat. And it's just a boat. Yeah. And nothing happened.

I directed, I directed that play in, uh, in 2001, I directed a stage version of that.

Um, yeah. He had me the last time I went home. He had me watch it. I was just like, what,

is anything going to, he's like, oh, I'm like, oh, all right.

Great. You know, who directed, who, who directed that film version of it? Because it's like,

I'm trying to remember who's a Dennis Leary. I know is in it. Um, yeah, there's a lot of,

a lot of people in it. And it's to maintain you directed that. Joe Montana. Oh, okay.

Yeah. Um, and I remember it came out like right after our production closed because that's,

that's one of mammoth's first plays like boat. It's one of his very first plays. And it's a,

it's a, it's a, it's a weird play. It's a very, very weird play. And it is. You're right.

It's just guys talking on a boat. That's it. Um, it's a very big boat, but it's a boat.

Yeah. Um, I don't know what you call that kind of boat. It's, uh, kind of,

what did they call those kind of boats, uh, that go up and down on the, on the lakes. Um, yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. And they were, yeah. They're on Lake Michigan. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

It's a, again, that's a local, because mammoth, you know, well, uh, you know,

sets a lot of his stuff here in Chicago. Um, but, uh, um, yeah. No, we, we, I, we put up a

production at that leaves beginning of 2001. I remember it was like January or February of 2001.

And, uh, we put it up at the, at, at, we were just talking about this place. Uh, we,

we directed, I directed that show at the viaduct right around the corner from hungry brain.

Yeah. Which is what's it called now again? Um, the theater or the bar, the theater constellation.

Constellation. Right. Okay. So in that space is where we built, we actually built a two level boat.

It was, the set was the best part. The set was fantastic. Um, so we had like the boiler room,

you could see and the, um, you know, uh, in the galley on the bottom, um, and then like the deck

on top, it was really cool. It was a great, my, my, my cast, I, which I could remember my set designer,

he was really fucking great. Uh, so we had a great time doing that. And I thought the show was good,

uh, but it's a weird play. It's his first play and it's like, it's weird. One of his first

plays and it's weird. And I can't believe they made a movie out of it, but we went to go see it,

like my cast and I, most of my cast and I, um, it played the, the, the, um, the landmark century,

um, when it opened, and it opened probably around March of 2001. And so we all went and we

fucking hated it. We were like, wow, we did a better job than Montana did. So, but that's interesting.

You Lakeboat, which would lead to things change. If you watch Lakeboat, they're going to go,

oh, you like mammoth. So here you go. Yeah, that makes sense. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Things change,

though, but that's a good movie. Oh, man, that's a good movie. Um, we watched over the weekend,

um, uh, Julie had never seen pink Panther strikes again. Um, I think she got confused as to which,

because there are so many of them. But I'm like, we wanted to watch something goofy. We were kind

of in the mood for, cause, uh, Julie had to work a really long day and we just, you know,

she wanted to unwind and like, let's watch something goofy and I'm like, let's watch a pink

Panther movie. And she's like, all right. And I said, well, let's watch the funniest one,

in my opinion. And, um, you've seen the pink Panther movies. I'm assuming. Yeah.

So the one that we watched has all, it's like, it's kind of like a greatest hits,

because it's got the, does your dog bite, you know, and then he goes, no, and then the dog bites him,

like violently. And he goes, I thought you said your dog doesn't bite. That is not my dog. So

that shit, you know, that joke. Right. And it's the one where Herbert Lam who plays inspector,

chief inspector, Drifus, has gone nuts and he's in a mental institution because, because

Cluzo drove from fucking crazy. And then he escapes and he tries to kill Cluzo is what is, is that,

that is, and so that's the plot of it. But it's got the scene where he has like the mace, uh,

from the, from the coat of armor stuck to his hand and he smashes the beekeeper in the face with it

and destroys the piano. It's fucking hilarious. It's hilarious. So we watched that and laughed

our asses off and that was available on the two bees as well. All the pink Panther movies I think

are on the two bees. Yeah. Yeah. That sounds about right. Yeah. Yeah. That's really cool. But

yeah. So things change. Yeah. Good movie, man. That's a really good movie. And thinking about

like movies that you, you know what, you know, which movie had its, um, Jesus, maybe 40, 40th

anniversary. 40, yeah, 40th maybe or 45th. Oh, 45th anniversary thief. Have you seen thief? Oh,

yeah. Yeah. James another, uh, another movie, my brother likes. He's big into the mob. He's

of course, he's big into the mob movies. You know, he loves good fellows and all that. He was

watching at one point. He, I don't know why I think because he has Netflix and he just has the

ability. So he's put it on, he put on the Irishman. Yeah. It's a long ass movie, man. Yeah. Well,

you know, again, he probably just kind of was watching the net. Yeah. Just think there's another

three and a half hours left of this thing because that movie's like four hours long almost. Yeah.

He's the same guy who put me on to, um, um, the movie with, and I think we might have talked about

this, um, 70s sex symbol. Um, oh my god. What is this name? I'll have it in a second.

For rent. Elliott Gould. I love that you described him as a, well, we were watching. So my

brother puts me on. He, he has me watch the long goodbye. Yeah. That's a great movie.

And we're, he, and he's like, look at him. Like he's, he looks great. Like he looks,

and he's like, he's got that cigarette and he's like, look, he looks cool. And then it's like

thinking about him now. It's like, wow. Yeah. Like what? He used to be like. Yeah. Well,

symbol, like, he was hot in the 70s. I was like, damn. Yeah. No, that's true. That's

the long goodbye is a fantastic movie. It's a fantastic movie. And then it was kind of

went wild. We, I mean, me and Colin watch it and we were a little, I don't know. Yeah.

That ending was we're just like, okay. Yeah. And that's that. I see. Yeah. Yeah. That's

Robert, Robert Altman made that movie. Um, but, uh, you know, like, Ellie Gould, you're

absolutely, I just love that he's described as 70. Well, you know, the 70s, the sex symbols

were weirder back then. They were. Yeah. But even not even he honestly, like, if you look

at pictures of him in the 70s, he's younger. He looks great. Yeah.

He's a good looking dude. And then as he got older, you know, he did oceans, the oceans.

Yeah. Oh, yeah. He's very ventric and silly. So kind of. And he, like, he was on one of those,

um, fuck, I don't know. He's on one of those, like, comedian has a family sitcoms.

You know, he wasn't, it wasn't like everybody loves Raymond. Uh, he was on one of those.

Maybe it was. I don't know. I can't remember. He's not, he was like a regular. Yeah. He

guest started on, um, um, friends. Oh, he was, okay. He's friends. All right. Okay. I knew

it was something. He played like a parent, right? One of the friends is parents, right? Like,

yeah. Yeah. Okay. Okay. So, okay. That's, I knew it was something. I knew he was in a, he was

in a sitcom. Um, but yeah, but Ellie, cool back in the 70s. You're right. He was. He was like,

all, you know, he's like, he did a lot of like sexy and dark movies in the 70s. And, you know,

him and like after mash, because like, it's him and Donald Sutherland, um, are in mash.

Um, and, um, you know, like Donald Sutherland played Hawkeye. Um, and, um, and, and, and,

and, um, Ellie, cool play ass shit. I can't remember the other. I can't remember which one it was,

which guy it was. But he played like the Mike Farrell role from the TV show. Well, he originated it.

And, and after that, like he and Donald Sutherland were both like sex symbols. Like in the,

like Donald Sutherland was considered a sex symbol. Yeah. Which also, yeah, he was, he wasn't a,

he, no, see, he did. Ellie, a cool does have an interesting face, but it somehow translates

to good looking. Yeah, I understand. Keepers, keep, yeah. Donald, yeah, his dad, his dad,

Donald, he is, he does have an interesting face, but it does translate a little bit to good looking.

He played, um, Casanova in a movie. Um, they made this really great horror film. Nicholas

Rogue made this really great horror film on like in 70. I want to say it was like 75 or 74. It's

called, uh, don't look now with Julie Christie. And most of it takes place in Venice. It's a

fucking terrifying movie. It's a really, really scary movie. Like it's scared to shit out of me. That's

how scary it is. And there's like a notorious sex scene in that movie with like Donald Sutherland,

Julie Christie, one of the most beautiful women that's ever walked the earth. And they get it on

in this, it's like Donald Sutherland full frontal, you know what I mean? And this is like

1974, 75 Donald Sutherland. So like right in that, right in that wheelhouse when he and Ellie

at Google were both considered hot. And he's like buck ass naked and him and Julie Christie rolling

around like doing the nasty. I was like, damn. Uh, so yeah, back when Donald Sutherland and Ellie

at Google were the big sex symbols. Yeah. But yeah, no, the long goodbye, man. That's a good

see your brother was like, look at, don't look at Ellie at gold. Yeah. We were, he had, we

watched it and a little bit of it. And he's just like, yeah, look at Ellie. He used to be like

this symbol. And I'm like, what? Ellie at Google. Yeah, back in the 70s. Yeah, he and Donald Sutherland,

they did, they did a movie called, they did mash. And then they called, they did a movie called

spies together. And they put, you know how in at the title of mash, they have like the star

between each letter because it military, whatever it stands for. So they were trying to take advantage

of the popularity and the sort of like counter culture, like hipness of mash when it came out in

the theaters. So this movie called spies, they put the stars in between each letter of

spy, to make people think it was somehow associated or a sequel or something or, you know,

up to mash. But yeah, man, Ellie at Gould and Donald Sutherland, you ever see the movie

Capricorn one? I'm aware of it, but I have not seen it. So that's got like a load of fucking

70s hot guys in it. Ellie Gould is in that one too. And it's in 1978, I want to say.

And it's about, they're going to go to Mars. It's going to be the first trip to Mars, but they don't

want anything bad to happen. So they pull the astronauts out before the rocket takes off.

Okay. And Hal Holbrook is kind of, he's like the guy in charge of the mission. And he wants to make

sure that funding doesn't get pulled from NASA. So they pull the astronauts out and then they

stage everything. So you know how there are people out there, there's conspiracy theorists who

said the moon landing didn't happen. You know, right. Well, that's kind of what this movie is.

It like takes off from that. But like, so, but what happens is they, they, they, they,

they fake it. They get a movie studio. They get a TV, big TV studio. And they fake them landing on,

you know, on, on Mars. And so that the world thinks it really happened, but it didn't.

And so they blackmail the astronauts saying, if you don't do this, we'll kill your family.

If you tell, if you tell anybody, if you tell anybody that we're faking this Mars landing,

we will kill your family. See if they go through this whole thing. It's the best. It's,

it's what's best for the government and for NASA blah, blah, blah. So the three astronauts are

Goddamn James Brolin. Okay. 70s James Brolin. So hot James Brolin.

Well, James Brolin, even in his, I don't know how old he is now. He's still good looking dude.

Yeah, he is, man. He is. But he's beardless. And he's beardless in Capricorn. I like him with

beard. I like bearded James. Yeah. I think everyone does too. I think we can all agree.

Well, that's I think that we've all seen him. We have it really. So he's got a cool son too.

We mentioned Donald's got key for fucking Josh is awesome. Josh Brolin rules the planet.

So Josh is just turning into James Brolin. He is. He is. And I love Josh Brolin. He's, he's,

I actually, he's one of my favorite. He's actually one of my favorite people on the planet. He also

got sober. He's really, he's a cool dude. I just, I love Josh Brolin. He's just fucking. Yeah.

But anyway, so. Clip up. There's a quick clip in Edward, Edward Norton.

Graham Norton show where share and, uh, and broler are there.

And she's, he's like, yeah, she thought I was my dad.

He had said hi to Josh Brolin, thinking that that was James Brolin. Yeah, it's like, yeah,

because you look like your dad now. I also, I also love that Josh Brolin's stepmother is

Barbara Streisand. That to me is wild. That's hilarious. It's just that's like, wow,

all right. Cool. But James Brolin. And then the other one is Sam Waterston. You know,

Sam Waterston, right? Oh, wow. Yeah. Okay. And then the other, are you ready for the other

astronaut? What's, who is it? Oh, oh, Jay Simpson. This is the other. Of course, I mean, that's peak

70s. Peak 70s. So they are the three astronauts. And the, an Elliott Google plays a reporter who

uncovers the conspiracy. And it's, it's, it's, it's got a huge Latelli Savales plays a crop

duster. All right. You got to see this move. Where do they keep? Where do they keep them?

They're in like a, in the middle of the desert. They're like in a, they keep them in a warehouse.

And, and so the, the mission is going to last. I think it's like eight months or nine months

or something that they're up there. And so they have to stay there. And then they have to do like

fake telecasts, like, like, like, so they're, so they're like in the, they're in the fake shuttle.

And they're making it, you know, and they're talking to their wives. And Brenda Vicaro plays James

Brolin's wife. And he says something to her that's like a code. Like, this isn't really, it's,

you gotta see, it's a set up code before him. No, no, no, no, no. He said something unusual so

that she would think something was wrong. Like, he said something, like a memory of a vacation

they had. Only he fucks it up on purpose so that she goes, wait a minute. That's not right.

Something's wrong. Well, I'd be like, that's the space madness. It's okay.

It's like, like, like, rent, you know, and rent and stuff. Like, he's in space. Of course,

it's going to be all. So when they're, when they're talking to them, they're not in space.

They're like in a, in a, in a, in a warehouse in the middle of the desert.

And so what happens if, but here's the complication as you're ready for this?

So upon reentry, the fucking capsule explodes.

So they, and I thought when you were talking that it had exploded, like, going up so

no, no, no, no, no, no, no. They go through the whole thing. They, they fake the,

the, you know, they fake the Mars thing. You know, they, they, so that everybody thinks that

they go to Mars and that they're on Mars. They fake the transmissions. But then on reentry,

the actual rocket blows up. And so now the fucking astronauts have to die. So they have to kill

the astronauts. So the astronauts escape. So Brolin, Sam Waterston and OJ, OJ escapes from the

authorities. He's good at that. Yeah. And, and so that's what it's about. It's about them,

them trying to get back and Elliot Gould trying to help James Brolin get back to expose the

conspiracy. It's fucking great. It's so good. It's so good. And it's action packed. And it's

funny. It's really good. Karen Black is in it. David, David Duke from David, or not David,

yeah, David Duke's not David Duke's not the racist. The guy from, not, not the guy from Charlie's

Angels. The guy, hey, hey, angels. That guy. Oh, I don't know his name anyway. He's in it.

And he plays, he plays Elliot Gould's editor at the newspaper. He's fucking hilarious.

No, this is a great, you got to see it. And, and Elliot Gould at press cigarette hanging out of

his mouth half the movie. Yeah, yeah, it's great. And there's a scene where somebody cut the

brakes on his car. And he's like, he's going like 90 through San Francisco.

You got to see this movie. It's awesome. Capricorn one. And I'm sure it's on 2B.

I'm sure it's one of those. So highly recommended because it's like Elliot Gould again.

Good looking Elliot Gould cigarette dangling, sleeping with Karen Black. You know, like that.

Yeah, wow. But yeah, and at one point in the movie when they're like, when they escape,

the warehouse, now they're in the desert. So they got to find, you know,

they got to find a way to get back to civilization to let people know that in fact,

the astronauts are not dead. It's been a conspiracy blah, blah, blah. So at one point,

they hijack up, they hijack a, a glider. Okay.

There's a, all right. Yeah, at the warehouse because they get out of the warehouse.

It's a government thing.

At the warehouse, there's a glider. Yeah, because it's all government.

Like it's the government is there and they've got like, you know, they've got like

vehicles and jets and shit like gliders.

I got everything there. Yeah, because it's the government, you know, it's a conspiracy.

So they got everything. Yeah. Um, so they beat the shit out of the out of these secrets or

the, you know, like the security guys and they jump into a glider and they, and then the glider

runs out of fuel. So they're now caught in the middle of the desert with nothing. So they,

so the, the, they have to land the glider in the middle, in the middle of the desert where

they're going to fucking die either way. It's like nothing but desert for hours. So they,

they split up. There's like a, there's a, like a first aid kit and like, um, and like an

emergency packet there, you know, inside the glider. So they split up and this really fucking

hilarious because they split up the, uh, the stuff that's in the, in the, in the emergency kit.

So like, you take this flare. I'll take this flare. You know, so they get, but at one,

at one point James Brolin has a knife in his hand and he goes to give it to OJ. I swear to God,

he goes to give it to OJ. He's like, no, I'll keep it and he goes, no, I'll keep it.

This is like 1978, you know, it's like 25 years, yeah, it's like 25 years before OJ and killed

his wife and he's like, no, I don't, I'm not going to give you the knife. I'll keep it and, and

watching it like after all that shit has gone down, like that scene is hilarious. Like him going,

no, I'm not going to give you the knife OJ. So anyway, but yeah, Capricorn one, Elliott

Gould prime, prime Elliott Gould tell your brother about Capricorn one if he's not seen it.

Yeah, yeah, I'll have to let him know. Yeah, let him know. That's, that's, that's, that's, that's,

yeah, sex symbols from the past, man, Elliott Gould, Donald Sutherland. I mean, uh, I mean,

Bert Reynolds, he was, he was sexy, I guess, right? I mean, he was the big.

Bert Reynolds, yeah, I mean, yeah, he was, he was in play girl and all that. Yeah, he was a huge

yeah, I mean, I guess he was, I mean, but he was like sort of the epitome. He had the moustache,

not a, you know, uh, yeah, but that was 70s full on seven, Robert Redford,

right? You know, that was, he was also, I mean, well, he was handsome all the way. He

in Paul Newman, Paul Newman was a fucking beautiful man. Jesus Christ, Paul Newman. Um,

but yeah, those are 70 sex symbols, 70 sex symbols. Yeah, even Robert Culp was considered sexy

because he was in like Bob and Carolyn Ted Nellis, which was that movie. I think movie about

swingers, Bob and Carolyn Ted Nellis. Oh my god. 70s swingers, you know, when they had key

parties and shit. So, um, oh man, but it's, it's fun to go back and see movies like that you mentioned

earlier, movies that are shot, you know, locally. Mm hmm. Like I mentioned thief. So thief is like

James Conn, sexy. Is he sexy? James Conn? James Conn? Oh, yeah, for sure. Okay.

Another sex symbol right there. Um, yeah, absolutely. But in thief, which was shot here in Chicago,

as you know, they fucking blow up the green mill in that movie.

And, uh, I know, I know. But like, so, so they actually blow it up. Like, I, um, and they

should, and it's probably if you shot in the green mill and a ton of movies have been shot in the

green mill. Um, but, but, um, but they actually, but in that movie, that's the only movie where they

blow the fucking green mill up because he owns it and he's, he's leaving town. So he's cutting all

ties and he's, you know, getting rid of all his businesses and shit like that. He's gonna like go,

he's gonna. I love that. How he's, that's how he's cutting ties. He's supposed to be building up.

He blows up the green mill. But he doesn't exist.

Every time I watch it, I just go, even though I don't drink anymore and I don't go there,

you know, like, I used to go there. I mean, I, I, I could have set up a tent in that place.

I was there so much. But, um, but, uh, but like, even when I watch it now, when they, because,

I mean, that's one of the most iconic, um, storefronts in the, in the city. You know what I mean?

Like that is a, it's beautiful, you know, and, and so they blow it up.

Green Mill gets blown up in that movie. That, here's how good thief is. This is how good thief is.

James Belushi's good in it. That, that's how good that movie. Oh, wow.

Yeah, man. And then like watching, um, older movies, like watching the Blues Brothers.

Um, there's a, one of my favorite shots in the Blues Brothers is when is, um, it's like,

when they're coming home to Chicago after he, after he, after he, after he picks up, um,

Jake at the, at the very beginning, after he picks up Jake at the jail in your hometown.

Um, they drive back into town and there's this beautiful shot of them driving down Randolph.

Um, back when there were like a hundred movie theaters on Randolph.

The old Grindhouse theaters. Yeah. And it's just, I get real nostalgic when I watch that,

because they shot that that was shot in 1979 and movie was shot in 1979. So the Grindhouses

were still there. And there's that great shot of Randolph. Now that same, like that shot that

they show, now it's like block 37 on the left. And, um, the, the Neeterlander is the only

theater that used to be the Oriental, the Neeterlander. And then just, and nothing else.

So, but yeah, seeing those old shots of Chicago, man. Yeah. Things change. I haven't seen them.

God, it's been a long time since I've seen that one. Um, and then Donald Sutherland was in it,

with Donald sexy. Well, he wasn't for, I don't know if he was said, do you think he's sexy and

ordinary people? Do you remember ordinary people? Yeah. There's a, there's a point where Donald gets

a little like me, it's older and it's just not, it's kind of like when you see cute children,

and then they grow up and you're like, oh, you used to be such a cute kid.

Donald was, he kind of, I don't know, but just funny because usually, yeah, you grow in

here. Right. He had cute kids in all that. Yeah. I wouldn't have, I wouldn't have considered him

later. He was still, he's a good looking dude, but like, yeah. Like I said, he's a, he's a,

he has a unique face. He had a unique face. Absolutely. Absolutely. And if you ever see,

don't look now, if you ever see that movie where like he's, you know, running around like naked,

well, not running around, but he and, he and Julie Christie just rolling around bear ass like,

I'm like, what? But he did that a lot like in Casano, he was in Casano, he's walking on his

long hanging out in that movie. He probably knew he was like, you know what? This is the time. Yeah.

Got it. Got to do a while. I'm young dude, but you can see it's me and Ellie get cool to the sexiest

guys in the world. Right. We got to take advantage of that. Yeah. Oh man, Ellie.

Cool. Yeah. So do you remember which friend he was a father of? Was he?

Jennifer Aniston's. So, okay. So he was Jennifer Aniston's dad. No, wait. No, I'm sorry. No, he

wasn't. No, Jennifer Aniston had a different start. Ellie. Cooled was Monica and, oh, and Chandler,

not Chandler. The other guy, Schwimmer Ross. David Schwimmer.

Yeah. Schwimmer's dad. Okay. He's Schwimmer's dad. Schwimmer in Courtney Cox's dad. Okay.

Yes. All right. Um, and then like, Jennifer Aniston's dad was, um,

Ron Liebman. Ron Liebman. Yes. That's right. I know. I only know that because I love Ron Liebman.

That's right. Okay. So Liebman was her dad was the ex-wife because his parents were,

her parents were divorced, right? I think. Yeah. I forget who her mom was.

She, but she was somebody. I think she was somebody to kind of. Oh, yeah. For sure. I think

they all were. I think it wasn't Jessica Walter. It wasn't Jessica Walter, right? Now from,

from a resident development. Um, no, I don't think so. All right. Yeah. All right. Um,

so did Lisa Kudrow's parents ever pop up on that show? Because I know she had a twin sister,

right? No, because I think her mom was, her mom had, um, committed suicide. Oh,

Jesus Christ. That was like the whole thing that like, her mom killed herself. Oh my God.

That's hilarious. She kind of, okay. That's like, uh, uh, yeah. She's, she's the one, she's like

the outlier, which she is such an odd story. And it's like, how are you friends with all these other

people? Okay. And she, but she had a twin, right? Yeah. But she kind of lived a tough life.

Oh, okay. All right. I never watched the show. So I don't know. I mean, she's, my favorite.

My favorite homework at one point. No, like during the show, but before that's her backstory. Yeah.

Wow. Wow. Okay. So, so, and then like her twin, if I'm not, okay. Now, now I might,

because I never watched friends ever, but, but she was on like her twin sister was on like that

show with Paul Reiser, right? Like in Helen Hunt. Um, yeah. I think she did a little funny,

little crossover thing. Like she was like a waitress or something. Um, okay. All right. But

wow, her, her mom killed herself. Holy shit. Yeah. Oh my god. Yeah. It's part of her backstory.

Man. Okay. All right. Yeah. Guys, Lisa Kudrow is the only person on that show

that I ever, like I never watched the show, but she was the only person on that show that I liked

outside of the, of the show, because the other ones I never really liked at all.

Um, but I always like Lisa Kudrow. And she's in that HBO show now to come back.

Yeah. I like Lisa Kudrow. I think she's great. Yeah. I think she's fantastic. Although,

I did like, I did like Courtney Cox in, uh, uh, uh, Ace Ventura. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I like to

remat. So, but, uh, but I'm never like swim or anything in the, and, uh, the, the, the other,

the two mats never really liked them. Um, never been a big Jennifer Aniston fan. Although I like, uh,

what's that movie with, uh, oh, fuck what's the name of it? With her and Jason Sadekis,

where she's like the stripper and they're pretending to be parents. Um, oh, uh, for something

family, we're, oh, we're the millers. We're the millers. That movie's funny. That's a funny

movie and she's, and she's funny in that. I remember, I remember that. I remember her liking her

in that. And when I like to run, uh, the, uh, horrible, horrible, horrible bosses. She's awesome

and horrible bosses. Would she, do you remember horrible bosses? I haven't seen this. Oh, horrible

bosses. She plays Charlie Day from sunny. She plays Charlie Day's boss. He's a dental assistant.

And, uh, and she plays his boss and she like wants to fuck him and like, she, first of all,

take that with what you will. Like, Jennifer Aniston wants to fuck Charlie Day.

But it's a, she plays like a total crazy, you know, like sexual, you know, uh, predator.

So, but if you never, horrible bosses is really funny. The first one. And oh, you know,

who else is in it? Donald Sutherland. And Colin fair, by the way, Colin Farrell in that movie.

Oh, my God, is he funny. I mean, it's Jason Sedacus, uh, Jason Bateman and Charlie Day.

And they hired Jamie Foxx to murder their bosses because their assholes. Right. And the bosses

are Kevin Spacey. Kevin Spacey, please, Bateman's boss Colin Farrell plays, uh, Sedacus's boss.

And, uh, and Jennifer Aniston plays Charlie Day's boss. Yeah. I can't recommend that movie

highly enough. That movie is one of the, that's, that's a go-to for me if I just want to laugh my ass off.

That's a, yeah. Yeah. I think you'd really, I think you'd really like that movie. I think you

really would. But don't watch the second one. No good. It's only two. Yeah. Yeah. Okay.

The first one is spectacular. The first one is great. Uh, and Jennifer Aniston is great in that.

But everybody's good in that. And, and, and if it's almost worth it just for Colin Farrell. Colin

Farrell is so ridiculous. He's got like a, a bad like bald way, you know, like he looks like

he's balding and he does a bunch of cocaine. He's like, he's, he's, he's fucking, he's got a beer

belly. It's like they did everything to attempt to make Colin Farrell unattractive, which is very

difficult to do because he's like one of the most beautiful human beings on the planet. But like,

right. Horrible bosses. Look for that one. So, and again, and oddly enough, and I didn't even

realize this after we happened to Donald Sutherland isn't it? Hey, have you ever, have you ever seen

beer fest? Uh, yes. Donald Sutherland's in that. He did a lot of great goofy ass comedies there,

man. Yeah, yeah, for sure. He was the best. All right. Well, well, we didn't get to anything we

were going to talk about. But, oh, wait a minute, hold on a second. Hi, I'm Carrie Russell. And I

love Nick show. Oh, hi, she's wearing a Donald Sutherland t-shirt. Oh, oh, it's sexy Donald Sutherland.

It's Donald Sutherland from Don't Look Now. Yeah. Hi, I'm Carrie Russell. And I love Nick show.

Okay. I'm just a little visit from her. All right. Well, cool. So, uh, things change. I haven't

watched that in a while. Now, and I'm really, now I'm kind of like, um, I'm very excited to go back

and watch that one. I haven't seen it in a while. Yeah. Well, maybe it was great. Really liked it.

Really. It's a really, it's a really sweet movie. A really, really good movie. Very un-mammate like

wait a minute. This is a really nice movie. What is it? It's got, it does have edge to it. So,

you know, it does have some edge in it. But yeah, but it's very sweet. Don't I mean,

she is great in it. He's fantastic in it. Yeah, he really is. So, very cool. All right. Well,

now we, and now we have to think about more 60s, 60s, 70s, uh, sex symbols. Maybe you out there

listening in, in listener land, who are some of the unusual, uh, sex symbols from the 70s?

Because that, and you're right. Yeah. As because that was a time when anybody could have been a

sex symbol. Yeah. Much in like movies and music. Oh, yeah. That's true. Just a bunch of dudes up

there. Just dudes hairy dudes with tight pants. Yeah. Yeah. If you would like to, uh, uh,

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