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I'm women's champion, but you're also human.

These are the things that what it takes and that's had a connection.

I've had a connection this year with the audience that I've never had before because I didn't think like,

okay, you can be a champ, but you can also be vulnerable.

You can also have bad days.

You don't have to be perfect.

And like showing what it has taken to be on top for nine years instead of like hiding the pressures and pretending you're okay when you're not really okay in those years.

And now it's like, okay, I am all those things, but like, hey guys, I am far from perfect.

Actually, I'm faking it half the time.

And them taking on that journey journey has been like, I've never connected with the audience the way I have connected this year.

And yes, I've been a bad guy for nine years.

But at the same time, when you can't decipher between who Charlotte Flair is and who Ashley Flair is, that was like the problem.

My dad is my dad.

He's still one of the most popular.

Because he's so authentic.

And he was 80s and 90s and 2010.

And so there are not very many guys that go back, especially ones that are still around.

So he's still able to connect the old to the new.

And so he's that he's that in between the attitude.

He's timeless.

And I think that's his crossover appeal to pop culture in sports.

Nobody's had more songs written about them than the nature boy.

And he's never apologized for who he is.

Like he said, hey, I've done this wrong.

But like, that's what I admire so much about him.

Like, don't get me wrong.

Like, I put my dad in time out every day.

And like, give me your Twitter.

Give me your Instagram, sir.

But like, he like speaks his true.

Like, he believes in like, he believes that he's the best.

1,000%.

Like, you got to have that.

I want to, this is very interesting.

When did you go from being Charlotte Flair, Rick Flair's daughter to the Queen?

Oh, to the Queen.

Yeah.

I was like, I'm still a Flair's daughter.

I don't look at it as a bad thing.

People don't look at you like that.

No, they don't.

But at the same time, like, he is such a like, okay, I have met a lot of famous people in my life.

Yeah.

But like, my dad, when you go, he, everyone knows, he was on TV for 50 years.

So like, whatever.

But probably to the Queen, WrestleMania 34 after I defeated Asuka in her undefeated streak.

I think that solidified me as like, okay, she's the Queen.

So that was my third WrestleMania.

Because when you were famous people and you like, I'm Charlotte, if they don't already know you say,

I'm Charlotte Flair's daughter.

So you didn't go anywhere.

You're Charlotte Flair's dad.

You're the Queen.

No, I'm the Queen of our Silver Flair's daughter.

But I like, I do think like, in the wrestling world, I'm Charlotte Flair.

Yeah.

Like, that's like, if you're a wrestling fan or follow the industry, but like, if you're a casual viewer,

I think the last name Flair, you're like, okay, Rick Flair's daughter.

Or like, we know Charlotte Flair.

But you've heard the name shut, but you don't like only because I've just,

I've had the opportunity to have this great career.

Traveling.

There's a lot of traveling.

It's the hardest part of what we do.

I mean, you might be in Vegas tonight and then you in Albuquerque or you in California.

I'm in California.

You didn't take it.

Oh, you all, I mean, I mean, does it every day, does it ever get older?

Do you ever get tired of this kind of trial?

Because how many days, how many days a year are you real?

I had one, I've had one injury my whole career and I was out with my knee a year, two years ago.

And I, there's this quote that I keep like, be blessed for the days now that you're tired and exhausted

and you're getting on the plane or the training or the, whatever, because like, when I was out injured,

all that was taken away.

So like, it's hard, but it's hard.

How much you missed it, huh?

You missed it.

And like, when you're used to all that travel, like, you don't know anything else.

So it's like, I've done it now for 10 years.

Like, I'm a road warrior.

Let me ask you this.

When you, like, you wrestle, how much do you still train?

Do you still train or do you go for training?

No, not in the ring.

Just in the gym.

Yeah.

So you just, you know, go lift ways, do whatever you do.

Yeah.

And then so now, because it's just, you're so into it.

You so, you're so on top.

I mean, if there's like a new move, I really want to try.

Okay.

Then like, I'll go or like, I say she's my wrestling daughter.

But her name's Kiana James.

She came up about a year and a half ago too.

And I'll go, like, roll around with her.

That's what we call, like, a roll around with her at the performance center.

Something like that.

But like, actively, am I in the ring?

There's no need.

Right.

Like, save your body.

Right.

You know, when you think about it and look at everything you've accomplished, you know,

being able to become the queen, you know, and separate yourself out of the spotlight,

which your dad is great as iconic of a figure as he was.

Has it been everything you thought it would be to date?

Even with all that you've accomplished?

I just went so fast.

Because like, now I'm just like, oh, I'm just now getting good.

When like, really people are like, what more do you have to do?

Right.

And then it's like, you're, you have this career and I've done all that.

Because like, I remember sitting and watching my dad,

2012, when Sean Michaels retired him, thinking like,

how have I never realized what my dad has meant to this industry?

Like, they're 70,000 grown men crying.

And I'm like, how do they do this?

And then like, you, you blink.

And it's like, oh, I've, I've walking into my ninth WrestleMania.

Yeah.

How is that possible?

Yeah.

Or that like, my brother wanted to be like, I think the hardest thing for me to like emotionally process

is like, this is what my brother wanted to be.

And I became that.

Like, how do you like process that?

Mm-hmm.

You know, like, and that's when like women were even not even on WrestleMania.

Like, no.

Like, that was like, only 10 years ago.

I mean, yes, there were women, but like, four minutes, one match.

Now we're walking into WrestleMania, two nights, Las Vegas, four matches, stacked card, big divot.

Like, it's just, how did you go from there to there?

It's more like, damn, I did it.

Like, how did you do it?

Mm-hmm.

Do you know what I'm, yeah.

Not like, oh, is it everything I cracked out to?

Mm-hmm.

Do you, I mean, if you think about like the 80s, I don't know how, y'all, I'm sure you're a student of the game,

but I grew up with, with Jacqueline and then seeing the fabulous blue, and...

Yeah.

I saw Jacqueline at the PC, yeah.

And, and, and you see what has become.

I never would have met, and when I started wrestling, watching wrestling in the mid-70s,

and then see your father come and, and see, like I said, it was only a handful of, I mean,

you might, you might get a ladies match on television, maybe once every other month.

That was it.

That was it.

I mean, you didn't, you didn't see like what you see, like you guys, you guys are in part smackdown,

you got a part of Rumble, you got a, a part of Mania.

You didn't see that, and now, did you think it would be where it is right now,

even when you got into it, and you say you like, nah, ten, a decade in?

The only thing I will say is when I started, and the group of girls that I started with,

who we call the Four Horse Women, we never looked at ourselves, or we never went,

oh, we can't do that, we go, oh, they can do that, we can do that, oh, they can make of it,

we can make of it, oh, they can have the match, guess what, we're going to have a better match,

or we're going to say, hey, follow that.

So we never like labeled gender, we just knew we were that good.

Right.

So when it was time for us to debut with the women's revolution, we just knew like,

we are going to main event WrestleMania, we are going to main event RAW,

we are going to main event Smackdown, we are going to be the top superstars,

and it's not going to matter gender.

So we just didn't, like I didn't grow, my dad never raised me to think I couldn't do something

a man couldn't do.

Right.

So there wasn't like, I never thought that we couldn't get there,

it was just a matter of believing that we could get there.

Just a matter of time.

Just a matter of time, whether it was going to be in our time or not,

but had they invested in the women that you mentioned, they would have done the same thing.

Yeah.

It's just if you don't invest in the women, they can't produce, you have to invest.

Right.

I think the thing is, like, can women really do this?

And women can do a lot of things, you just give them opportunity.

A lot of people can do a lot of things.

A lot of time, the only thing that was missing was opportunity.

Opportunity.

Yeah.

Opportunity time.

Yeah.

And the platform.

That too.

When you talk about opportunity and having that platform,

what do you think about the state of women's wrestling right now, where it is?

Well, I think we have four women's matches on the Super Bowl.

Awesome.

So.

I mean, because we had a Naya and a Lash on earlier.

And I'm like, hey, um, it's going to be like four women in the ring at one time.

It's eight women total.

I was like, hey, um, I thought it was going to be like, you know, I grew up, you know, eight.

Squad A versus Squad B.

Well, it's kind of like Squad ABC.

Exactly.

Exactly.

Exactly.

They call themselves the Irresistible Forces.

Yeah.

Yep.

You faced them.

Have you faced them?

You faced them before.

Yeah.

That's going to be great matchup.

It's going to be good.

It's going to be good.

Lash was my future pick.

Two years ago when I saw her in the next year, I was like, oh, she's going to be a stud.

She's good.

She's so.

I mean, you know what?

I think the thing is that the training center that you guys, I think it's still down in Orlando.

It is.

And you guys now women basketball players are coming in and they trained.

I see that you guys are saying signed a couple of track and field athletes to come in and train.

So it's such a difference now.

But hold on.

Because I, my love for my athletes, because I was an athlete.

Yes.

I love them.

But I will say this.

Just because you are a great athlete.

Doesn't mean.

Doesn't mean you're going to make it to the dance.

You might make it to the dance once, but then if you don't figure it out.

Right.

You really have to have like.

I mean, my dad was a good athlete, but like, are we talking about my dad's wrestling moves here?

No.

Hogan's stone colds.

Macho man's.

It's so much more.

Cody's Romans.

So much more.

Sam punks.

Yeah.

Do you get what I'm like?

Yes.

Yes.

I mean, you look at it as far as I can.

Like Brock Lesnar.

Holy cow.

Yeah.

But Shawn Michaels, the guy that's pretty good.

He's a Kurt Angle.

Yeah.

If you go back, like, yes, athletes do real Bianca Belair.

Yes.

One of the best athletes I've ever been in the ring with.

Yes.

But she's one and one and a million.

Yeah.

You know what I mean?

She was tracking me.

Bianca was tracking me.

I can feel.

Yeah.

Yes.

And last was a basketball player.

Yeah.

But then that's out of like.

Yeah.

Do you think because they think because they're athletes and this is an athletic sport?

Do they think that?

Oh, this would be easy.

Yeah.

I thought that.

But then I was like, oh, my God.

I'm scared of my own shadow.

And I got to cut a promo.

And I got to have a character.

And what do you mean I got to have facials?

Yeah.

Like, I can out.

I can out condition.

Or I can outrun you.

I can out condition you.

Like, I mean.

Like, I take pride in the fact that like.

And the girls know this.

It rustled me.

Like, I don't get tired.

But.

Just like that doesn't mean you're going to be great.

Right.

Right.

Like, that's like you.

You, you connected to the character and the emotions.

Not like, oh, that was a cool move.

But what do you remember?

You remember that story.

You remember that facial.

You remember how that girl made you feel or that guy made you feel.

Not the like.

Athletic.

Not the athlete.

Like, there are, there have been incredible athletes.

The rock.

Yeah.

And I think the thing is what you guys that really good one can do.

They can sell it.

Your dad can sell it.

Your dad.

Yes.

Yes.

Just the, the way he taught the American dream that they'll divide the elbow.

Son of a plumber.

I can't do the list.

I'm not even good.

Good job.

It's so bad.

But that's what you guys can do.

Yeah, you're athletic.

Yeah, you can wrestle.

Yeah, you have the background.

But it's the ability to sell and convince the audience.

Yeah.

Because that, like you said, I've got to convince 30, 40, 50, 70,000 people.

I've got to convince them that you're the bad guy or that you're the good guy.

Or that you're winning.

Yeah.

So that's, it's cool that we are, like, it's great that they want to be a part.

Like, but at the indie wrestlers too.

But also I think wrestling is this.

Sometimes the athlete, sometimes the, and then you'll find like a diamond.

Yeah.

Can't just like, hey, she was a really good athlete.

So we're going to find another really good athlete.

It doesn't, doesn't work that way.

How much time, how much time do you spend on your character?

Because it's hard for me to believe that you're, I mean, you're the way he can.

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Say everybody still, he's a Rolex wearing limousine ride jet fly.

Son of a gun. He's built more liquor.

He's here probably spilling liquor.

Over it.

Wait, I don't know if I'd love to say that.

Dad, I love you.

But I'm saying, I mean, the guys in the rock and stone coal, the way.

Did you know what I get jealous about?

All they have to do is walk out in a little pair of speedos.

And I have to like have these like diamonds and bedazzles on the robe.

They have it so easy.

Other than my dad and his suits.

Yeah.

That's sometimes I'm like, take that suit off and go home.

But he had, he had the role with the nature boy.

We came to ring.

He was a massacre of the hair.

The hair with the.

He's still holding on to it.

But the hair, the hair that moved for the first five minutes of the flight, the fight.

Then all of a sudden, it was all over the place.

But, but how much time do you, I mean, because that's a part of it.

All of it.

Like I said, you know, we're just talking to Jacob.

And I said, people just see the destination, but let's see the journey.

Mm-hmm.

Yeah.

There are a lot of things that go into it before you ever step foot in the ring.

There is.

There is.

Do people do people realize that?

Do you think people realize that or understand that?

No.

Or they think you just show, you just showed up and you're going to wrestle in this thing.

I think they think that they.

I don't like it.

No, like what you invest in your personal brand.

Your character is your personal brand.

Yeah.

What you invest in that moment is what you're going to get back.

Right.

So what I've invested in Charlotte is why she's the 14-time women's champion.

I don't take a day off.

Do that make sense?

It does make sense.

Like they don't, yeah.

Like you have to come up with everything.

Like how you are, I mean, you don't get to come up with the story a lot.

I mean, you can give advice.

That's right.

Like what you are presenting to the world is what that's your vision.

Right.

Does that make sense?

It makes sense.

Or like.

Absolutely.

You just don't become great in the ring.

Great.

If you look at anybody that's being great, professional athlete or anything, there's a process.

But you just can't, like I think the ones that really do become the greats is because they never stop the process.

No.

They're always like hungry for something.

You know, I like that as you just said that.

When it comes to the creative side, when it comes to the storyline, how much control or input do you have in that?

You mean, you have a little bit of input, but like they, they usually know where they want to go.

Right.

Right.

Yeah.

Oh, you're not.

We do nightcapping.

We talk about it.

You know, greatness is really boring.

It's monotonous.

Yes.

Because it's doing something over and over.

And I'm trying to get better.

Yeah.

But I'm doing the same thing over and over.

Routine is boring.

But that's what separates you.

People don't realize that.

Oh, they can do it.

They don't.

They don't.

But I like, I can't, I can't eat the same thing or I can't go to the same place.

But greatness is boring because you're training, you're putting in, you're working on that craft to be better.

It is, it is so monotonous.

You have to fall in love with the process.

Yeah.

I'm in like.

You have to love the monotony.

Yes.

Yes.

But that's the hard part for a lot of people, huh?

I think so.

It is.

But having to do the same thing over and over, it is born in general.

It is.

And unless you want to be great and understand the sacrifice that it takes to be great, you have to love doing the same thing over and over and over.

So you get to a point where you don't make the same mistakes.

But not even that.

Like for me, I've been in this for so, like, I say so long, but it just feels like as a woman because like, this is a whole another topic.

But like, men don't reach their prime till they're 40 in the business.

I feel like where it's like a different standard.

So I really hope that like, I feel like I'm just, I'm forever in my prime.

But it's the not relying on what you've done in the business.

You have to continue to move forward to stay with the, because there's the company's ever evolving.

Storylines are ever changing.

You have to evolve.

You have to evolve.

Okay.

I'll see you.

That's another thing.

Yes.

Like, you have to pay attention to that too.

Right.

Because you can't be like, and I probably was guilty of this a couple of years ago, because I was like so scared to change the robes or the gear or whatever.

And those are minimal things.

But like, I can't rely on the fact that like, hey, I did 32, 33, 34,

like, made them into 35 and 30 set.

Like, can't rely on like, that's cool.

That's a great resume.

But like, if you want your resume to continue and make like, what do we say?

Updates your resume every time.

Updates your resume.

That too.

And people don't understand it.

Like, well, he did.

I understand what he did.

But that was last year.

What about right now?

Well, like, if someone last year was like, oh, we're going to put you on a tag team.

And you're going to go into Mani and a tag team.

I'm like, no, I'm not.

I'm not tag team wrestler.

I'm an individual player.

That added to my resume.

It's going to add to my career.

And it only added to the stock of Charlotte Flair.

Yes.

With Alexa Bliss.

Yes.

Like, you have to update it.

Whether you can't be like, you have to be, don't give me wrong.

It was so hard.

Like, my, my stylist is over here.

When he was like, you got to change this.

You got not in the good, like, update.

Right.

Because you get like.

Because of the individual, you're looking a certain way.

But now you got a partner.

So it's kind of like y'all kind of made the blend.

I mean, it can't be.

No, we're like, we're super, we're super popular because we're the odd couple.

Like, she's gone.

I'm.

I'm.

You're not gone.

No, not gone.

No, no, no.

So like, we're just completely different.

How did that?

How does that work?

So because I asked last year and now you're.

I was like, and she's like, you know, sometimes you get a little older.

You've been in this business a while.

They'll, they'll allow you to.

They'll allow you to pick.

But for most time and not, they're like, we, we think you guys will be great together.

How does this?

Oh, no.

This was hard to get us together.

Yes.

She was pitching.

Oh, she was.

She was.

See, so I had just lost WrestleMania last year.

Yes.

And they didn't know what to do with my kit.

Like, it was kind of like, we didn't know what to do.

I created it.

No, it's whatever.

Right.

Right.

And she kept pitching like, hey, I want a story with Charlotte Flair.

I want a story with Charlotte because we'd had history in the past, but not like long-term storytelling.

But because we had real moments in our personal lives together.

Right.

When she first started and I first started, she was going to use that as part of the story

where like, she was bullied a lot.

Yeah.

Like, there was some bullying going on when she first started.

Right.

And not that we were close, but she'd be like, hey, I knew Charlotte was there.

Whatever, like, respect.

Because we'd always kept the respect.

Yes.

So she was going to use that to tie into the story for us to end up turning on each other

to give back to those stories because we were always against each other.

And it ended up working better together because we were so different.

So where like, I could kind of take the piss out of Charlotte being so arrogant.

And then like, her character calming that down.

Like, the dynamic was funny, but also like you said, when Nia said tag teams.

Sometimes you use tag teams to like, lift up the other opponent.

Right.

Where like, she's a, Lexi's a stud in her own.

Right.

I'm a stud in my own.

So then you see to not having to where they're just like, okay.

Right.

Yes.

But the thing is, as long as long as you're still a part of the story.

Yes.

Is when they stop making stories about you that when you need to worry.

And they're still creating stories.

Oh, yeah.

Oh, I know.

They're still creating stories about you.

And you, like you said, you're a stand alone, but you're a great partner also.

I love the part.

It's been fun.

14-time women's world champ, Charlotte Flair.

Charlotte, thank you so much.

Thanks guys.

Thanks guys.

Hi.

Thanks guys.

Hi.

Hi.

Hi.

Hi.

Okay.

Thank you.

Bye bye.

Bye bye.

Bye bye.

Bye.

Bye bye.

Hold on.

Can I just start to take one?

Yeah.

Turn back.

Right.

Sorry.

Yeah.

Sorry.

Pre.

Between.

Which of you?

That means he's like.

Oh

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah

Visit the

234 days from 2011 and 2013.

A two-time money in the bank

winner.

One-time World Champ.

Many appearances.

He's three and four with seven appearances.

WrestleMania 42, heavyweight title match against the tribal.

Roman Brains.

Yes, sir.

Ooh, that's a lot better.

It's good to see you gentlemen.

How are you doing today?

Beautiful.

You're amazing.

How are you doing?

I've never been better.

Never been better?

No, never.

Wow.

I got my belt, my wife's here.

Okay.

Made of inner WrestleMania.

Right.

Some people say, blessed, I just say unfortunate.

I'm overflowing with gratitude.

I'm stealing it.

I should be here trying to get this microphone to work.

You guys can hear me, okay, I'm just going to leave it right there.

Yeah, all right, great.

42 against Roman Reigns.

Yeah.

I mean, bro, you the champ, way back when you, a seven-time world champ,

WWE champion, what is this opportunity?

What does this mean for CM Punk?

I'm the kind of captain of the ship right now.

Okay.

And anytime you're in there with a star, the caliber of Roman Reigns,

it's a proving ground.

I don't know if he would admit the same, but it's the same thing.

This is Iron Sharpen's, Iron, I'm the current measuring stick.

He's been that in the past.

So you really kind of can't wait to see who comes out on top and

what happens, and I can't wait to see either.

You know, like, I'm looking forward to this.

This is going to be fun.

Okay, got one more on me.

When I'm looking at you and look, I don't bring up because of my

other guys that he ain't really, he ain't really fond of you, you know,

self.

He ain't really fond of you, so we're not going to bring up that.

I mean, what have they put like, what have they put you to guys?

Hit a WrestleMania 42 against each other.

I mean, kind of the same thing.

I don't think Roman likes me either, you know, like with the same, okay.

So who likes you?

This ain't the friend business.

This is the wrestling business.

Okay, I don't, I don't, pardon my language.

I don't give a shit who likes me, you know what I mean?

I'm going to do my job.

This is what it is.

When you lined up, do you care who is friends with you on the other side?

Absolutely.

Yeah, I'm not.

And you might have had friends on another team, but hey, we don't care about friends on

your own team.

Let us know about another day on team with games.

When that whistle blows.

Yeah.

And between those lines, friend and not, family and not.

Yeah, I don't like you.

You either apologize before or after.

Right.

Sometimes both.

Yeah.

Does this feel like validation for unfinished business?

To me, just getting here is validation, you know, it's playing in the Super Bowl.

You know, like, oh, I have to, as a human being and as a man, take the moment to stop and

smell those flowers, look around and go, man, I'm here.

Like, I'm here talking to you two guys.

It's cool.

Like, it's, there's, there's, there's levels and the fact that I've been in the game

this long and I'm still climbing ladders and I'm still reaching new heights and different

levels.

It's all new experiences to me and it's one big adventure and I'm enjoying the ride.

Oh, I go.

When you talk about those ladders, we talk about those heights and what you've accomplished

so far, has it been everything you thought it would be before you even started because

we all have a vision.

We all have goals that we set out to do when it's, when we try to achieve anything in

our respective crafts.

Yeah.

In this craft of wrestling, has it been everything you thought it would be?

It's everything in more, plus way more hard work, you know, like you've got to be prepared

to run through a wall on a daily basis, you know, and oh, you're not going to sleep and

you're going to fly to another country and then you're going to hit the ground running

and do media and then you're wrestling and then you're on a bus.

I mean, everything about it is difficult, but to me it just makes it that much more

worth it, you know, like it makes, it sounds really, really corny.

I'm supposed to sit up here and say, you know, something brother, I'm going to walk

in there and I'm going to knock down the walls and I'm going to poke them in the eye

and I'm going to, but this all just makes, I mean, so look at this right here.

WWE 2K26.

I'm going to cover the video game for the second time.

I am so fortunate to be afforded these, what are, what amounts to once in a lifetime opportunities

and I've got to do them numerous times.

It's like I'm living more than one life.

I just overflowing with the gratitude.

Like guy across the ring for me hates me.

He wants to talk trash about me.

I love it.

I just, I'm in the pocket.

Like you cannot rattle me.

This is all, this is all fun for me.

Like even getting punched in the face, even getting powerbombed through a table, waking

up the next morning and not rebounding like I did when I was 26 years old.

I love it.

I'm like, this is exactly where I need to be on top.

What keeps you motivated?

After everything you just name, after reading your accolades and your resume, to date, being

on the cover, two times, what still gets you up and keeps you motivated to keep going?

I think it's, I'm partially crazy.

I'll always say there's, there's talent here, but this is far less about the talent.

Yes.

It's about the obsession.

I've been obsessed with this since I was a little kid and that has carried me through.

And now I find myself in a position where probably more than half the men and women on

the crew on a daily basis say, hey, we grew up watching you.

And to me, as corny as it sounds, maybe I feel like I have a responsibility to kind of

not tell them what to do, but to show them.

And I'm not always right.

And some people don't like me.

I got a big mouth.

But to lead by example, that's something that motivates me, the fans motivate me.

They carry me through.

It's like a wave.

I'm a surfer.

I'm just riding the wave.

There's so many things that still motivate me.

The fact that I'm 47, I want to get up.

I've never been 47 in X amount of days.

I want to be the best 47 in X amount of days I can be.

When I turn 48, like who's done it at this level at 48?

OK, well, that's the bar I set.

I need to get there.

Yeah.

I've talked to a lot of wrestlers.

And I've talked to a lot of wrestlers.

And they always said it was the one my grandfather, my uncle took me to a match.

And I said, that's what I want to do.

When did that light go on?

When did that switch flip for you?

You say, you know what?

That's what I want to do.

You know, I think I watched wrestling on accident probably for the first time.

And it was because it was on network television.

I think I was trying to sneak, stay in up late.

And the only thing on TV was Saturday night was Saturday night life.

And then one day, it wasn't on.

What the hell is this?

And I'm watching Saturday nights main event, you know?

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and it really just kind of captivated me.

And then I turned it on the next week and it wasn't on.

And I was like, well, how do I get more of that?

Where do I find that?

And then I had to kind of search it out, pre-internet,

pre-google, it was a different world back then.

I attribute it to a lot like how I discovered punk rock.

I heard the Ramones or the clash for the first time.

And I was just like, man, what is this?

This is so great.

I need more of this.

And then you get into it and you read the lyrics

and you read the liner notes and you see they thank this band

and then you go out to a record store.

And like, that's all gone now.

So I discovered it on accident and man, look at me now.

Rank these and the list that you hate most at least.

You got the Packers, the Cardinals, the Red Ring,

the Red Wings, Seth Rollins, Roman Rains.

This is hard.

I feel like most of my life I have known

about the existence of the Packers and the Red Wings

and the Cardinals.

Thankfully, for a much shorter amount of time

I have known about the existence of a Roman Rains

and a Seth Rollins.

But man, that hate burns bright.

The hate burns bright.

I got to say Red Wings, number one with a bullet.

Because I'm not putting Roman or Seth at number one

on anything.

Just cause.

You know what I mean?

Yes.

Yeah, I'll say they're a distant four and five.

They can share a spot together because they're both

goofs of equal proportion.

Cardinals, number two, Packers, number three.

OK.

Yeah.

How did you, did Vince or did they give you that name

because you say you had a love of punk rock.

You like the Ramones.

And so I understand CM Punk.

So how did you come up with the name CM Punk?

So when I went and got trained, I was wrestling in a backyard.

I was 15 years old.

I was CM Punk.

OK.

OK.

That's always been your, that's always been your job.

Because punk was my nickname.

OK.

You know what I mean?

Like I was a little punk kid.

OK.

You know the older, older parents in your little punk.

Yeah.

And instead, like to me, I was like, how was that insulting?

Like I wore that like a badge.

I was proud of that.

But when it came time to quote unquote go pro,

you know, I find a training school I get brought in the right

way broken in.

And I'm trying to come up with a cool code name.

You know what I mean?

And my trainers looked at me and they're like, what are you doing?

You're punk.

Just be punk.

Right.

And I was like, oh, OK.

I thought maybe I had to kind of leave that behind.

Right.

And then when I signed with WWE, I thought for sure, that's it.

Big one changes.

Yeah.

Because we do that sometimes.

We change people's names.

And I thought I was going to be an astronaut.

Or you know what I'm saying?

Like I don't know what they're going to do with me.

And somehow, I made it to television as CM Punk.

Yeah.

You know, like I'm just fortunate that way, I suppose.

As we get older, remember in our 20s, even in our early 30s,

we're able to do something whatever it may be,

and do it back-to-back.

Back-to-back and get up, the body recovers right away.

As we get older in our 40s, the body doesn't respond

the way it used to.

Has retirement ever crossed your mind at any point?

Or is that obsessing for what you do in that craft still

there, retirement is not even a thought at this point?

I can't say that it hasn't crossed my mind,

because I've had fans say, hey, we need you to die, your beard.

Why?

This is me.

And I think I look good, you know?

Like this zit.

You know how long I have existed.

You know how old I am.

I don't want to look like a guy trying to look younger.

I don't want to have the shoe polish in my beard.

I want Seth or Romeo.

And to here, to look like a guy that's 47, you know?

Not a 30, not a 27-year-old or 35-year-old.

Because what a shame would it be if I was 47 years old,

and then I wasn't covered in scars.

That is not a life-live.

This zit right here, you know?

Maybe this is because of stress.

Maybe this is just something happens when you get 47.

I don't know.

It's crossed my mind, the retirement thing,

but, you know, hey, knock on wood.

I feel like I'm operating at a very high level still.

I'm still telling the same stories.

People still invested.

People are going to be going crazy Sunday night.

I'm in the main event.

I gotta be doing something right.

Yes, sir.

Why stop now?

I also know it could end like that.

Yes.

So, I'm not trying to plan anything.

I just watched my friends AJ Styles and John Cena retire.

Yeah.

You know, so yeah, it looms.

It's on my mind, but not anytime soon.

I like it.

Roman Reigns has made it clear.

He doesn't respect your past or your comeback.

Yeah.

Damn.

I can say, OK, you did leave for a little while.

You come back.

But, damn, he don't respect the past or the comeback.

He always makes up.

I don't know what to tell you.

Like, I get it.

Like, I'd probably hate me, too.

You know, he said that you, you know, you after after being away.

You come back and you got the title.

Yeah, you got the belt.

Yeah.

Like, nah, hell, nah.

Not supposed to happen.

Right.

Yeah, well, I mean, he's got his opportunity to snatch it.

Yeah.

That's what it's about.

It's just two guys who don't like each other.

Gonna get to punch in each other in the face.

So when you were away from the WWE for those two and a half years, what did you do?

Oh, I did.

I did a whole bunch of stuff.

I did some movies.

I wrote comic books, fought in the UFC.

I got married, focused on my marriage, my relationship, and my wife.

I did.

Yeah, I did.

I did whatever I wanted.

It was great.

I ate whatever I wanted.

Is this life hard on a relationship because you travel so much?

Bro, you on the road, 200, 200, 250 days a year.

I got married in 2014 after I left.

Okay.

You know?

Yeah.

That was bad.

And I, it wasn't, it wasn't like, whether I stayed or I went, I was getting married.

But I did always think this life is remarkably hard, especially for people who were married

or had kids.

I did the bulk of my career, just single, not a care in the world.

No responsibility in anybody else, but the wrestlers on the crew.

And I devoted my life to it.

Again, it goes back to that obsession.

Like I didn't have to split time or split focus.

And the fruits of my labor were the success I got from that focus.

But yeah, I left it the right time.

I got married at the right time.

My wife's back and we get to enjoy working together and it's really been amazing.

Do you notice the difference between when you were first here at the retirement and

the pulse retirement?

Do you notice anything different?

Oh, I mean, the entire system's completely different.

But I also feel I'm so different.

I've grown up in a lot of ways.

A lot of things that I would hold on to, you know, like if you're angry about something

that happened in the past or you hold a grudge, you know, you're,

you're holding on to this hot coal.

And after a while, seven years, you realize like, I'm only, I'm only hurting myself, you

know?

It's one of the greatest quotes I've ever heard is, you know, people don't think about

you as much as you think they do, you know?

So just focus on you.

Not really worried about other stuff, you know?

And just kind of shed some baggage that helped me be able to come back.

Just let stuff go.

You know, I had problems with people.

And to me, what it amounts to is bad communication on both sides.

And then your pride gets in the way.

Yeah.

You know, and then to, to be able to function here in this system now, we're working

a lot less than we used to, which helps.

But also just, you know, hey, if I got a problem with you, let's just talk about it.

Several conversations.

Yeah.

You control.

Because you know, that was the nice little troll job you did.

Which one?

Becky.

For what?

What do you mean?

What did I do?

What did I do?

Everything.

Okay.

My man.

My man.

Hey.

Thank you.

Congratulations on the bill.

I appreciate you.

Definitely going to watch this match on Sunday.

Good.

I'm going to beat that ass.

Have fun doing it and look good doing it.

All right.

Thank you, man.

High.

Wolf, damn it.

Thank you, man.

We did love it.

Love what you guys said.

Thank you.

Yeah.

I just love the voice you guys have.

Appreciate you.

Let me love it.

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Very special guest joining us now.

He's the one time world heavyweight champion.

The 10 time tag team champion.

One time in a, uh, in a continental champ.

11 of many appearances.

He's a 65 defeated Gunther.

The last man here to become heavyweight champ WrestleMania 42 six man tag team match.

L.A. night.

The Usos verse.

I so speed Logan Paul Austin theory.

The vision.

What's up, bro?

I don't appreciate the intro.

So, you know, I'm happy.

You eat.

Are good.

We're good.

Yeah, bro.

Bro, what happened with camera on this morning?

He tried you, bro.

Man, I know he's going to see this man.

Oh, it's respect is everything.

Yeah.

I mean, I don't know.

I like, I was respectful.

We're likeable people.

I felt like we, we I just want to know we want to know as soon as I saw it.

Dude, man, first of all, I met him.

He was on the damn motor, motor at motor damn wheelchair.

I'm like, what's wrong with you?

You know, the vibe was a little off, man.

And maybe, you know, I still got love for camera

in the podcast.

Mace, all that man, but who's?

Man, I just told him a couple of times, man,

just be respectful, man.

He wasn't being respectful.

So I didn't, you know, he had to feel that.

I am.

He.

Yeah, yeah, killer.

Hey, I think a great matchup would probably be you and Ocho

in the ring.

I like that.

I like that.

Can I just get Ocho?

Can you just be my manager?

So you just get on the phone and talk that talk?

OK, I got you.

And you let me walk that walk, let you do what you do.

And he do that.

Yeah, I'm like, Ocho got some tidies with some baby oil.

We're going to get it right.

You can get some, man.

I know you got a 12 pack under there.

Come on, man.

Because I need to look, the man Oby 50 now actually

owe me lamb lamb.

He owe me lamb bands here.

Ocho.

So I need you to get it back for me.

Brand that up.

Ocho.

I get my $20 back.

Paul's on you.

Hey, why do you?

Do you feel you're tired of running with a little short?

You with you could have extended the, you know, man.

Of course, like, man, I always want to, man,

I'm going to run it back though.

I like the first round.

Man, I was like, get my feet wet.

It was cool.

Man, the second, the second go around.

You go hold that thing for a minute.

Yeah, yo, I thought that the yeet run was lit, man.

I'm ready, man, I'm ready, man.

I got my family out here still fighting, man.

But we over here making money this weekend.

So that's all that counts.

See?

Hey, has wrestling been everything you thought

would be?

I've asked everyone that's been up here right?

Because everybody's journey, everybody's process,

getting to this big stage has always been different.

And the excitement, the energy, the charisma,

the personality that you have, and you bring to the sport

in the game, it's infectious, you know?

Has it been everything you thought it would be to this point?

Man, and more, Ocho.

Yes, sir.

And more.

Because I appreciate it, because I know I just did a signing.

I just did a signing two hours long at Walmart.

It was lying around the block.

There was a moment, it was where the block for two hours,

only like 10 minutes of people show up, you know.

And then we just sit there the rest of the hour and a half.

But it's so different now, man.

I'm just, I'm so grateful.

Yeah.

I'm so grateful, man.

The hard work's finally paying off.

Like, y'all know all about it.

I mean, all that sacrifice is finally, I'm seeing the payoff.

Yes.

So I appreciate the hustle.

And I think sometimes the sacrifice, when you're sacrificing,

and it doesn't happen overnight.

Yeah.

So I think the thing is, we look for instant gratification.

We look for things.

I mean, you look at, that's what the microwave is for.

That's why we play lottery tickets instead of working hard.

We want to say, hey, I picked the right number,

then I'm in wealthy instantaneous to go through the process

of what you had to go through to finally make it to this stage

and to become a world champion.

How gratifying, satisfying was that for you?

Man, man, just full of gratitude, man.

Because like, I promise, man, I always, I came in wrestling,

thinking, me and my twin brother,

we're just going to be the best tag team ever.

I never had thoughts of splitting.

I never had thoughts of doing the singles.

None of that is, it just morphed in what it was.

And, man, I made sure I would not waste my opportunity.

And shout out to the little homies in here

trying to get in this wrestling game.

Now, he just said it, it ain't no sprint.

It's a marathon, you know, you want to wrestle

as long as Rey Mysterio.

I want to wrestle as long as Randy Ort.

Then boys is pushing 50, and they still do it.

Come on, man.

Yeah, words of nipsy hustle, though, man, it's a marathon.

You've been everything to Roman Reigns,

and we had Jacob up here earlier,

and he was talking about how that goes.

It was amazing.

That's a real one.

Yeah, amazing.

Shout out to the world.

Hey, bro, I mean, the respect that he gave, the Uso

and your father and the rock and his grandfather and fathers.

And you guys are very, very close-knit community.

And to see that you get what you guys have been able to accomplish

in this sport, it's seemingly like more and more

and more of the tangas are coming into this sport.

What does that mean to you to see people that look like you

come from a similar background as you

that's been able to do benefit and be fruitful in this sport?

Man, it makes my heart happy.

Because I seen what Jacob went through.

I seen what Solo went through.

Don't nobody know they real stories.

And I've seen how hard they came just to get here.

And then we take it over, man.

We're not wasting this time, man.

It's different, man.

We're trying to set the example.

And this too, the bloodline is deep, man.

I got cousins.

Yes, ready.

I'm talking about 15 years old, who's 6'5, 300 pounds.

6'5.

6'5, oh, so we hand in the dirt, yeah.

Yes, sir, like 12, 15 of them ready to go.

Girls and guys, the girls in our family

about as big as the guys, man.

But I'm really excited to see how I go.

But I'm, man, I'm joyful, man.

Because I do get to work with my family.

And it don't feel like a job because we're around each other

all the time, man.

So I'm blessed to have that with me here.

That's dope.

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Port water on his head shook that shit off, stood up and switched it.

I was like, you know, I saw it.

Also, when I was across the ring from a moose,

that's how I felt because I felt it was real from him.

And I was like, no, like that's the first time moose

I kind of like, mark as me.

Moose, cool.

Yeah, but yeah, just learn it from the goat, man.

Yeah, Mark Henry's there.

I guess he had DJ now.

Is he?

Yeah, we're as strong as DJ, something.

Yeah, no, he can move, he can move some weight now.

But for someone, I mean, you tell me he was weighed over 400 pounds

that could dunk a basketball.

He was athletic out of the union.

Yeah.

I mean, he was a world champion powerlifter,

Dendi Transition to weightlifting.

Had the American, I think I don't know if you still have it,

but the super heavyweight, the power, the snatch, grip.

Oh, do you remember?

I don't know if you saw it.

When he, they locked the cage, and if he got to cut it,

so he can just snatch it like one time,

and it took him like seven, eight minutes.

But he snuck a chain that was locked.

He snatched it.

He kept snatching it and he snatched it off.

That's real.

Yeah, it was real.

Yeah, that is real.

Because there was smoke, there was smoke to cut the lock.

Yeah.

But they forgot to.

But he couldn't, he had to snatch it off

because, or it wasn't, it's like, well, that this footage,

it's on TV, it's on TV.

That joke would just catch it.

He snatched it off.

Man.

Yeah.

All right.

You had that, Mark.

So, so what's next?

So what are you hoping for?

What can we fake from Jay?

Man, I'm gonna just keep killing it up.

I'm gonna, I'm gonna just stay present a lot, man.

That's what I've been focusing on.

Right.

Man, because I'm always, we're all of us are always on

the next thing.

What's next?

What's next?

What's next?

Let me move fast.

Now, I finally just started to even learn how to be present, man.

Took me this long, but I'm here.

And just be grateful, man, with the family, man.

We got everybody flying in the Vegas this weekend.

Yeah.

Better be lit.

Hello.

You posted something.

Yeah, she's mine.

Ooh, ooh, yep.

Man, y'all know.

No comment, no.

Man, man, man.

What are we gonna do?

I gotta say it, though, man.

Y'all see her, she the batter's on one down there.

What the, where?

Which way?

Up from heaven.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I'm gonna give me that.

You played line back at University of West Alabama.

So who would you compare your game to NFL player?

Who you compare your game to?

Man, to be honest, me and my brother did get down

in some football, like, come on 52, Ray Lewis.

Ray?

Come on, man.

That's my, that's my, that's my, that's my, that's my,

that's my, that's my, that's my, that's my, that's my,

I got him.

Was that real?

I got him.

I showed that was real.

You're really chau, lately.

Hey, once you miked up and you know that,

that was a blow, it's real.

But it's the thing.

He didn't make the play.

I lost, but he didn't make the tackle.

That's all that matter.

It's your job, Bruce.

You did your assignment.

That's it.

That's all I can do.

Yeah.

It was Troy Pallamalus, my favorite.

Sean Taylor, my favorite, R.P. and Reed.

You know, I job back to safety sometimes.

I, you know, but, yeah, I'm a Florida boy is up.

Did you have, did you have dream aspirations

of playing NFL football?

Yes, sir.

Man, yes.

That was the first, of course.

That was your first love.

Yeah.

Man, I missed it.

Like, I dream.

Man, I missed it though.

Well, man, like wrestling's like the closest I can do next

to a grown man job.

Yeah, right.

It's the same feels.

So same energy.

To walk out there, because you're walking out into arena,

you play football, you're in front of 50,

somewhere between 50, 70, 80,000.

You walk out there into these arena.

You got 20, 30, 40, 50,000 fans yelling, screaming your name.

You get that same adrenaline rush.

You get quees, you're stomach, you get the quees,

you're the goose bump, the hands that up on the back of your neck.

You make that walk, you're walking out of center,

just like you're running.

Just like you're running.

You feeling it too?

Yeah.

Oh, so you still have that drip, too, right?

You should see y'all there.

Oh, yeah, yeah.

I like it, though, man.

Now, I'm excited, don't down.

You're even talking to y'all, man, like, man,

they told me I was coming back, where I was excited.

Man, we excited.

We excited to have you come.

You know, look, what you've been able to accomplish

in such a short amount of time.

Yeah, you know, we joke and like, okay,

you had a short reign, but your time is going to circle back.

It's coming back.

And when it does come back, just be ready.

Just be ready for that moment.

Don't take anything for granted.

You realize how long it took you to get here.

And but you also realize how fleeting it could be.

Come on.

I think that's the thing that people enjoy the process.

You understand, because a lot of time when people just watch

you on television or they come, all they see

is the destination.

A lot of times people don't see the journey.

That's the thing that you gotta enjoy.

It's the journey to get to the destination.

And you know, sometimes you take a detour.

Sometimes you have a flat.

Sometimes you have to have somebody

to show your car in, because you know, things happen.

But you've got to stay focused.

You've got to stay on just A.

So you know what, A, I'm delayed temporarily.

I'm just delayed.

I'm not deterred.

Appreciate that, you know.

I really appreciate that, man.

Worse on my OG, man, like hearing it from you and my dad.

It hits different, you know.

Need old geez around me to appreciate it, definitely.

Appreciate you, bro.

Thank you very much.

Yeah, man.

Yo.

Thank you.

Each.

Ah.

I'll get right to it, too.

Can you show?

Can you do that, man?

Yeah.

Can you do that, man?

Yeah.

Can you do that, man?

Yeah.

Can you do that, man?

Yeah.

Can you do that, man?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Thank you.

All right.

Thank you.

Oh, man.

Man, this thing, man.

Hey.

Oh, yeah.

I want to.

I think, you know what I think?

What you thinking?

I think I should wrestle.

I think you could do it.

Now, just one.

I can make it happen.

Just one.

You think so?

Yeah.

How are we going to do it, though?

Now, how are we going to do it?

And who am I wrestling?

Who you can wrestle?

Yeah.

We'll make it work.

I think I think so.

Like I said, I can be I can be Broadway, The Brain, Heen and I can be, uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh,

I can be Paul Hamlin.

Yeah.

I can be Virgil.

You remember Virgil used to be a, the guy with ten D.B.

I'll say.

Yeah.

I can be something like that.

I can, I can get it.

Yeah.

I think I think we could do that.

Because the funny thing about it is, remember we talked about it takes more than just being an athlete.

For your asser.

Yes.

Now, we talk about going in the character.

Yes.

Yes, you gotta be able to sell it.

Being able to sell.

What can I do, huh?

You can sell it.

I can sell water to a wheel.

You hit me?

OK.

Yeah, bad.

I could talk a cat out of the goddamn fish market, huh?

Put me in that atmosphere.

I would give the people what they want.

I'd probably be a fan favorite.

We got two professional talkers.

Yeah, bad, yeah, yeah.

Man, look here.

I talked to the rooster in the payin' 50 bucks a hour

to get the fox to guard the hen hut.

Pay the 50 bucks an hour.

I never heard that when I liked it.

So we, we, we, we definitely gonna make some happen.

Like that.

We, we, uh, we, we get, uh, uh, uh, I don't know if we

gonna get triple A, uh, this time around.

But we definitely, we get takeer.

We get takeer tomorrow.

We definitely go, hey, take, let's, let's make a sample, man.

Hey, hold on me, I'm the takeer?

No, no, no, no.

Takeer, uh, uh, he helps.

He helps, you know, train people and stuff like that.

I'm your son.

But I'm saying, I train him.

Yeah, he can, he definitely get trained, you know.

But, uh, you know, we got the, he, we got the pipeline.

Yeah.

Talk to triple H and, and, and, and to make this thing happen.

I like it.

So, oh, yeah, yeah.

But this is, uh, this has been unbelievable.

I mean, we've been, we've been, we've been, we've been jammed.

We've been non-stop, uh,

Wow, you want to break them up?

Okay, come on.

We got a very, very special guest joining us today.

I look professional bull rider, John Kramer.

How's everything?

Beautiful.

How you doing, man?

Nice to meet you guys.

Nice to meet you also.

Uh, I don't know if you guys know this, but he's a two-time

reigning PBR teams MVP, currently ranked number one in the world

standings.

And you look like you're about 16, but he happened to be 20 years

of age.

How you doing, bro?

I'm doing good, man.

This is awesome.

Yeah.

I don't thank you for joining us.

I mean, how does the kid grow up saying, you know what?

I want to play football.

I want to play basketball.

I don't play baseball.

I don't want to do soccer.

I don't want to drive NASCAR.

You know what?

I want to get on the back of a damn near 17, 1800 pound bull.

And I want to try to stay on this damn back for eight sets.

He's taking it.

Hold on.

Not only do that, but be the best at doing it.

Shoot.

You know, anything we do in life, we try to be the best at it.

So I've worked at it my whole life and my dad rode bulls.

And I'm growing up watching him.

You know, that was my superhero.

That was the guy I looked up to and I was like, man, I want to be

better than him.

So I want to go ride bulls.

Wow.

I like it.

Anything else?

Did you do calf roping?

Did you do, you know, saddling?

No, sir.

Just strictly bull running.

And I played a little bit of football growing up in high school.

And I think that kind of helped my mentality in a way, too.

So I want to ride bulls.

Still.

I've seen it ride bulls before.

I've really moved before a while ago, but I want to get back into it.

I want to get into streaming, you know, and showing a different side of my life, showing

the crazy side of my life where I'm willing to do and try anything.

And obviously, I think bull riding is something that I can get back into because

the adrenaline rush, I can't get that kind of a, I can't, obviously, it's scary.

And the outcome, you don't know what can happen.

And I like situations that are unpredictable.

You know, if I die, I die.

It is what it is.

But I got to get on a ranked bull again.

You need to.

Give me a bull that you think I should ride next.

We can dang sure hook it up, man.

Yeah, we'll do it.

We know we come back here in November for the team's finals, we ride in a team mobile.

I feel like that would be a good experience.

What bull?

Man.

I'm going to be right there.

Why can't I'm cold?

What do you want?

Like, you want the best of the best?

I want the best of the best.

I want the best of the best.

My dream, my dream was riding Bushwacker.

That was my dream.

You wanted to get on Bushwacker.

I wanted to get on Bushwacker.

So I could tell my kids, your daddy got on the back of Bushwacker.

You want the team to tell them, I oughta tell them.

Huh?

You don't know what to ask.

Any second.

You're young to be wired shut.

You know who you are.

Dude, I'm fine.

That would have been pretty cool.

I would have been fun.

Bushwacker.

Yellow jacket.

You want to get on Bull?

ET.

ET.

You want to get on Bull now?

Oh, the hell not?

The hell not?

I'm the crazy one out of attitude.

Yes.

I wouldn't do anything one.

I can see that.

Yeah.

You liked that.

The next question is brought to you by Tommy John.

Comfort is the new power move.

What's the most, what's the rankiest bull that you've been able to get on?

Uh, so last year during the team's finals here in T-Mobile, I got on the best bull in the

world called Man Hater.

Man Hater?

Yeah.

And out of the teams, I got on Bull 32 points on him here.

Yes sir.

Wow.

Yes sir.

I was my favorite ride of all time for sure.

As dough.

As dough.

Is he Sharrbray?

Sharrbray?

You get a cross between Charlie and Abraminois on the towers?

You know, Bull.

Nowadays the breeding, it's evolved so much.

Yeah, it's all artificial.

Yeah, you can get way different stuff now.

I liked the charlée and the stuff I was back in.

and they have.

Yeah, it's charlée because they wanted a big musculable.

Exactly.

And then you wanted a Brahmin that could have survived

extreme.

Yes, sir.

Yeah.

It was me.

No.

I wasn't back there for nothing.

Yeah, I know.

It's crazy how it is now.

It's evolved so much.

They have the AI stuff where they can get embryos and stuff.

Yeah.

It's like they're bred to do that.

They're bred to buck, so the charlée stuff now is more

to using for breeding and cows and stuff, like just black

angus cows.

Yeah.

It's not to buck though.

So they're trying to do beef cattle now.

Yes, sir.

Because you got so much of big and you got the angle.

Yes, sir.

Yeah.

OK.

I see exactly what you're saying.

Black and red.

How do I practice to ride a bull?

Because before I rode déjà blue, I forgot we

hear that was in the Luke, Georgia.

Ty Murray was my coach.

Yes, sir.

But the only thing Ty Murray could do with me

was put me on the back of the mechanical bull.

And the mechanical bull was so easy because I had leverage.

Yes, it was my leg.

Yes, sir.

I'm like, Ty, are you sure this is what it's going to be like?

And Ty looked at me and smiled and said, not quite.

So I didn't understand what not quite meant until I got in the shoot.

How many days you trained for two days?

See, if you do it next time, I feel like you should go

learn the fundamentals first, learn everything about how just

the simple stuff that you could get.

Then you go get on the caliber of bull

where you can feel you riding the bull.

You feel it.

You feel eight seconds.

Then you keep going and evolving, evolving.

That's how I feel like a lot of people nowadays, they'll just

go and want to hold on.

At the top.

Right, right.

I wouldn't recommend that.

I just go learn, learn fundamentals, learn it from the right

guy and get on the right caliber of bull.

Once you dominate that one, the next one, dominate that one,

go to the next one.

See, that's, I like that, but I don't know if we're going to have

the time.

Shoot.

We don't need to have time.

We'll got you.

I got you.

Let's go.

Jack, I'm going to be a professional bull rider.

Give me some time.