No Monotheism in the Bible!

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well great to the dividing line here we are on a Monday

we actually

we actually take possession of the new

mobile command center tomorrow so I figured it was best to

take care of things today I noticed we didn't check the sound here but hopefully that's going to do it right there

anyway

so we're going to talk about

a lot of things around and doing strange stuff

on the on the tomorrow and plenty of stuff talk to talk about anyways so we'll jump into things here

just reminder we are heading to Utah in just a couple of weeks

and we have a debate up there

on is the god of Calvinism morally reprehensible

and that's from an LDS perspective because I specifically said well we can

you want to use that as the title great but

it's actually we're looking at both perspectives

okay is the god of Mormonism morally reprehensible

and that will be my assertion

and also doing a talk on do we need a Christian Constantine

may have to actually address the issue is whether

Constantine was a Christian

you can't question that in eastern orthodoxy by the way

can't question that equal to the apostles

Constantine yeah there's some few people that are called to be equal to the apostles

in orthodox theology or at least

some orthodox theology the orthodox like to make it sound like there's just orthodox theology

but believe it or not I mean

a bay knows to get a Greek orthodox and a Russian orthodox and Ukrainian orthodox

the same room and you'll discover the differences but anyway

so we got those debates and then the we can before that

I will be debating Shabir Ali from the new RV

this will be he's going to be online

he was going to be online all the time anyways

and I will be online

and we will be debating a fascinating topic

it's not that he hasn't debated this topic before

he and I have touched on a lot of the same things

but who continued the teachings of Jesus

Apostle Paul or Muhammad

because you know Shabir from the beginning

Shabir did the same thing that the author

of the vindication of truth

in 1864 did the same book

it's Aral Hach was the name

that's not the author that's the name of the book

that's the book that

so influenced Akhamadidat

and really launched the careers of many

Dahi Islamic apologists

over the years

and so Shabir's been doing the same thing for 20 years

and so he'll be arguing

that Muhammad returned people

to the actual teachings of Jesus because Jesus was Muslim

and so he'll do the standard

liberal theologian stuff against Paul

and Paul disagree with James

and this that and the other thing

it's your standard anti-polyne stuff

using standards he'd never be allowed

he would never allow to be applied

to the early followers of Muhammad

or the Quran or anything like that

and what's weird is

if he does the same thing that he did with me

in 2008 in London

and then in 2015 with David Wood

he'll literally try to defend

Muhammad's view

by numerous logical

defense of the Quran

now back when I first started listening to him

the big thing was the number 19

in 2015 with David Wood

it was the number seven

remember the Bible code stuff

most people don't

it was like 1999 I think

but for a while there was this Bible code stuff

that came out and you know

look at this amazing

confluence of numbers

and all this kind of stuff

well they did that with the Quran too

you can do it with Shakespeare if you want to

it's just requires you know

shall we say imaginative mathematics

and but there are certain scholars

that he quotes and for Shabir

it's always been the same thing

Shabir will cite a scholar

now he rarely gives the actual citation

when you look it up it's frequently a passing reference maybe a footnote

most often the scholar doesn't make anything big out of it

but Shabir's pulled it out

found the reference

and within three minutes

a single reference by a scholar

who may or may not have run with this

may or may not have gotten a conclusion out of it

becomes

as we have seen scholars have proven

so it only takes a few minutes of verbiage and all of a sudden

a simple reference becomes

well it's already proven fact

when it's not a proven fact at all

evidently assuming that his audience

will never check out what he's saying

that's the requirement

so

it's just it's so clear

Paul

is a contemporary

lives at the same time

lives in the same context

as Christ

lives at the same time as the disciples of Christ

that the Quran says

the disciples of Christ

we may preeminent over all others

but the modern

Muslim idea is

that Paul just wiped them all out

Paul's teaching

he took over Christianity

came up the whole new religion

and just

the actual disciples of Jesus

that were the good disciples

the Muslim disciples of Jesus

they has rolled over and played dead

it doesn't make any sense

it truly doesn't

but

that's how it goes

and

so

it's really so clear though

a contemporary

author

clearly in contact

with the apostles

that's who Paul is

over against

an individual

who cannot read Greek or Hebrew

may not be able to read

any language at all

that lives

700 miles away

and

can

end

has no historical connection

whatsoever

to the historical Jesus

does not know the content of the New Testament

and yet

gives you citations

gives you exact quotations of Jesus

and so

Shabir will question

what Mark says

but he will accept

what the Quran

says 100 years later

says Jesus said

without a

scintilla of documentary evidence

over that 600 years

I mean

that's indefensible

it's utterly indefensible

but

that's what he's stuck with

so

that'll be interesting

I hope all the tech works great

I hope we have a good connection

I cannot remember

what the connection was

like last time I was there

but I haven't been in Utah

in over two years

about two and a half years

it's been quite a while

we had our second RV

when I was up there last

so we had the

last one about two years

so it's been about two and a half years

since I've been up there

so you know

so it's been about two and a half

but I think

I mean

I think I should have changed

radically in that time

so we'll see

so we'll see

so we'll see

so we'll see

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how about we how about invite Joe Hażmire?

There have a discussion with meat we can do it remotely.

kifosky's church in florida friday night and saturday morning

and from here sitting right here

and it went really well we had no breakups we had no

issues at all

uh... there's a meeting issue once but that was probably on my own

but as far as the the platform

i was able to share my screen real nicely

it was

very straightforward

uh...

and so

maybe we'll

go that direction or whatever

uh...

but i invite joe henshmer let's

let's have a discussion

about your claim

that first climate

the epistle of climate

it's really the epistle of the church of rome the church of corn

dated

late first century early second century

there's arguments about that

uh...

but let's have discussion about your claim that this

in any way shape or form

constitutes

a testimony to early

people authority because

there's

uh... and and specifically

and let's do it based upon the original language tax

let's do it based upon

the greek tax

because for example

uh...

climate

uh... reckoning does what paul does

presbyter

presbyteros

and episcopas are used interchange

the big thing that rome is writing corns about is that the crinthians had

kicked out their

presbuteroy

their elders

not their singular bishop

there is no reference to a singular bishop

there is a

generic reference to the

the bishop as an office

but there is no use of a singular pronoun

in reference to a bishop

or the use the word bishop

the author is anonymous

the name names never given

plural pronouns are always used we exhort you

as fellow christians

there is never a

bishop that says

by my authority as

the infallible vicar christ

not there

and

the ecclesiology of the letter

is the new testament ecclesiology

plurality of elders

and at this point in time that's what existed in rome too

there was no one bishop

so there

it would have been

the elders at rome writing to the

now elderless church in corns that it kicked their elders out

so

being able to go into that and go

show me a singular pronoun

show me where the bishop show me where clement

not only identifies himself

as the bit the bishop of rome

when there is no singular bishop of rome at the time

and again i i know the responses well but later

you know urna said there was you know

urna says writing

eighty years later

and he's defending

the claims

of his orthodox branch against the nostics

and just think for a second

uh...

if someone in nineteen

if someone today

made comment about

who is in charge of the church in nineteen forty six

what's the chances that they would

have per first-hand knowledge

none it's all second

is almost nobody that that old is going to be able to give clear testimony

of something like that

uh... so

what the discussion would do would be to allow us to

document anachronism

because roman catholics are told hey sodas cognitum says this has been the

ancient faith of the church is what's always been believed

it's just simply not true

roman catholics have to believe it and so they function in light of what

they've been told to see in history

you would never get the roman catholic system

of ecclesiology authority

justification by faith since that's in their two section thirty two of

the epistle

very clearly

you'd never get that

you never get that stuff out of the original language tax

and so we'll see if it if it happens

uh... i just put i just put the invitation out there

and he seemed willing to think about it

and uh... so we'll we'll see

uh...

but

what was i looking for their

he did he did he did he

uh...

oh lego joseph remember him the lds guy

he had posted

the father fully possesses the divine nature the son fully possesses the

divine nature the spirit fully possesses the divine nature

basically being

drive from the out of nation creed

therefore there are three instances of divinity

three gods

and i responded

it's the

divine nature not a

divine nature

there's only one being of god not three not ten not unlimited number

is there any of the god i know not any

wanting from i say of course

so he

he

linked me to this video

and good old dan McLellan the dan McLellan

here's how dan McLellan works

you know and i don't know exactly where he is and everything i

i saw in our

i think we responded

on this program to some

wacky stuff he said about the new test of homosexuality

he's one of these guys honestly

that thinks

he's the only one that

really gets it

and

look when nt right does that

uh... when that is an orthodox guy does that

at least they've written

massive

homes with

forty seven billion footnotes and

stuff like that at least

they can point to something this guy can't point almost anything like that

what he does he sits down he says i'm a bible scholar believe me

and any just throws out

all sorts of disjointed

wacky

crazy stuff

and it's just like

believe me because

i'm a bible

and most of us who've been teaching

long and he's been alive

don't

just roll over and go

yes sir okay

a lot of other people do unfortunately

and so

he has this video he's wearing a venom shirt that's great

uh... that always raises things

uh... but

he says there's no monotheism the bible

just so that you are up to speed

uh...

i remember years ago when um...

Richard mal

Richard mal was the past president of fully theological senator

you may remember that mal got involved with all this ecumenical stuff with

the mormons and

they had this ecumenical meeting up there and

uh...

it was it was a mess and

this was back during the america online days

when america online just launched

and

he did this

online q and a thing

and i managed to get

in

the q

and when i asked him

about like i say a forty three ten before me there is no god for him there

should be an after me

he gave the standard

response that you expect

from your regular

progressivist

uh...

protest

they don't believe that the old testament

has any cohesion at all

unfortunately

the large majority

and this is why i you've never

i've criticized the people who do the

well the majority of scholars believe this majority of scott you know the

the hopper mossy and

hang on the resurrection the majority of you know that the minimalist argument

for the resurrection

i was never bought in any of that

the quote unquote scholarly consensus changes

fairly regularly

and

so what you have an old testament studies today

is a consensus

not based upon

having done a lot of debate on the subject is just

what has become accepted

bad reasons

so like the documentary hypothesis the well-housing hypothesis

jdp if you're not familiar with it

the uh... yowist elwist

during on a completely sources

it's the redaction hypothesis that the mosaic material

is this badly edited cobbled together mess

of contradictory material that was put together

you know

long long long after the the days

of moses and in fact they don't believe moses ever existed moses as a fictional

character

the most is fictional

the pentatook is a redacted

cobbled together mess

there is no consistency to there is no cohesion

they do not hold jesus view scripture let's just put that way okay

and this is the majority view

and it's not just a mosaic material but

everything else

from their perspective

you can believe anything

you can come up with anything

um...

so this this actually came up interestingly enough i was going to mention this

uh... but we're just wandering all the place that i am

dan barker

through something out

at elai iala in their debate

a few weeks ago

and all is

i hadn't mentioned

he throughout the ellione argument now what's the ellione argument

i've told the story

i remember the motel six hotel room

exactly which direction it faced the line ours

it was

the year

that i took my son

with me

up to

thought like city to pass out tracks during general conflict

and we were staying at that fancy motel six

every time i drive vote by those motel sixes now up there in salt lake city

i am astonished at the price on it

because

when we went up there

it was like

nineteen ninety nine i'd say per night i'd say

now sixty nine ninety nine seventy nine ninety nine per night

to stay in the same

flea bitten

uh...

uncomfortable beds that

that uh... we stayed in before

always sweet and we squeeze lots people there people sleep on the floor is

everything i we we did

um...

and uh...

i just remember

i don't know why this

it's it's amazing the things you remember in comparison to things you forget

but i remember which brown

it's probably still in the other room i don't throw stuff out

you've just said

that's because i take care of my stuff i don't have to go down

it was a brown

fake leather book bag

and i'm crammed on my resources into it because this is before

an ipad or anything like that you can't go electronic

um...

i mean my son who went with me was like

eleven

um...

and

he's two months from turning

forty

forty years old ok so this is what back

uh...

and

i remember i stood there

with this

and this was stolen

but i i i had a truck stolen out of the phoenix college parking lot

uh... years and years and years ago

they found it stripped and they had

pulled all my

books out of it and i had to this nice

red leather bound biblie hibibli hibrega student intensive

and

i

was

arguing myself do i need to bring this

because i was going to be doing four hours on the air

live call in insult like city on more minutes

and here's my Hebrew text

and i crammed it in i could just barely even carry the bag

i went ahead and took it

the last half hour of the program

the last half hour of the program

this guy calls it

and

uh...

he identified himself as bill

it was actually william hamlin a very young university

well the primary people

at the time of uh... of

the

uh...

sort of apologetics group they had at byu he was one of the leading

people

in farms

foundation for recent research in moreman studies

existing where i don't think

it's been taken over by others

um...

he calls in

and he throws out this very same argument

based on doodoro

chapter thirty two

so when i heard

dan barker

throwing it out

i'm like

wow

heard this before

and it's a it's actually based on a textual variance

and so i was able to look it up i had stuff that

hillie hebrae kastuka tencia in the back

and so i was able to look it up while bill was talking on the air

my eyes were still good enough back then to read that small print he grew

and i found the variant

and i was able to respond to his use of the text

and is used to the variant

because i had my hebert text with me

that's one of the illustrations that i used when i

the next year i believe i thought he grew

um...

for golden gate

and

that was one of the illustrations i used

why should you bother to learn this language well here's one example where

it came in handy

and so

the whole idea is that

well see

this verse says that yellow young is the highest god

and ellione

has divided the earth up and given

israel to a lesser god named yawa

or jovo

and

how can you come up with something like that

the only way you can come up with that

is to say we will interpret this one verse with a textual variant in it

in complete contradiction

to dozens if not hundreds

of other verses

in the old testament

and the reason that they don't hesitate to do that is because that's what they

believe the old testament text is it's a cobbled together

mess of contradictory gobbledy gook

and that's what they publish

that's what they put in their commentaries

so that's how they get away with it

that's not jesus's view of the old testament

and that McClellan does not hold

jesus view of the old testament

either

so i'd like i said

my recollection is

we respond to some stuff he did on homosexuality

um... did we

oh

yes

yeah we did record that

and uh... we recorded all those ktk

uh... radio programs from long long long long long long long long long long long long long ago

and they're on the sermon audio page

if i recall correctly

we respond to what this guy said about homosexuality in the new testament to

uh...

and went yeah not quite

um...

he goes on with some other stuff and again he just sits there and he just

drones

with this condescending

you all are so lucky that i'm even talking to you

i am so brilliant

and no one

no one knows what i know

type of an attitude just listen to it it it's it's

yeah

but let's listen to this um...

there's no monotheism let's listen to this first part

and then

respond to it

there is no monotheism in the bible

hey everybody i'm dan McClellan a scholar of the bible and religion increasing

public access to the academic study of the bible and religion

and combating the spread of misinformation about the same

there are two points to make here the first

so the bible acknowledges the existence of other gods from beginning to end

they are repeatedly

recognized as deities in the Hebrew bible in greco roman period jewish

literature in the new testament

in early christian literature

now sometimes those recognition's occur alongside pieces of rhetoric

that say things like i am and there is no other

there is none like me this is the rhetoric of incomparability and we find this

in ancient Egyptian literature

in ancient sapetamian literature

we find it in a number of different places and it is not a philosophical

rejection of the existence of other gods it is a rhetorical denigration

of them similar to how i as a broncos fan in nineteen ninety eight would

quip that the raiders are not a real football team it is not a philosophical

rejection of their existence it is just rhetoric and that's okay

just rhetoric

it's like being a broncos fan and saying that the raiders aren't a real

football team it's just rhetoric

they're actually acknowledging these other gods exists

but they're denigrated

does that sound familiar

let's see if anybody

in the audience

and of course is one person in the audience i can see this really is going to

help me very much but

i would be really interested

uh...

because i'm sitting here thinking

about another time you heard exactly this if you've listened to our

interactions with mormons

fairly extensively

you've heard

probably in my my gut feeling is

when i heard this not it wasn't the first time but when i heard this about

what was it it was it about

yeah it was by seven or eight years ago now

but i'm thinking about it

member

on apology radio

me and jeff and quayku

the young morgan fellow

he's still out there

um...

i'm a little surprised i think the last i heard he was still at least nominally

mormon

uh...

haven't heard much of him i don't see him doing almost anything anyway

he really melted down badly after all that stuff

this was his argument

and i wouldn't be surprised at all

if he got directly from the department

or if it's the same source they're both wrong from i don't know

but that's the idea

when you read there is no god besides me

in scripture you can go ahead and take it down work

when when you read there is no god

aside from me it's just it's just rhetorical it was

that was a common claim

uh... in mess with a me in religion it was a you know that it doesn't

it really isn't a philosophical claim

uh... it's just it's like

if you're a broncos fan in the raiders are to real football

that's

that's what you have here

let's

sort of

i don't know

think about that for a second

and maybe compare that to

you know not just have a guy sitting there in a venom shirt saying

trust me

i'm the scholar

uh...

i know all

i have a degree

yeah yeah um...

not impressed

not impressed

uh... you will you do the same thing

the difference is i go to the text

and let the tech speak

i don't say it's because

i'm somebody special

because what the tech says it said long before i was born will say the same

thing long after i'm gone

and i'm irrelevant

okay so

i have a very different view of

where i'm coming from

than dan McClellan clearly has of himself

but

let's

let's look at a text here i'm i may have a hard time getting back to the other

stuff

i tend when i get into the texture it tends to take up a lot of time but that's

okay

uh...

Jeremiah chapter ten

Jeremiah chapter ten

and

look i'm not

just pulling this out of the hat

i have a whole discussion on this

in is the more my brother

which was published in the

nineties and out there for a long time

um...

here the word which you always speaks to your house of Israel

that says yawai do not learn the way of the nations to be terrified by the

signs of the heavens

although the nations are terrified by them that would be astrology

for the statutes of the peoples are vanity because it is woodcut from the

forest the works of the hands of a craftsman with a cutting tools so he's

talking

where is where is

where is israel right now

israel's in captivity

and

the

Babylonians

are making claims to them

about their gods

our gods defeated your gods

why don't you listen to us

um...

for the statutes of the peoples are vanity because it is woodcut from the

forest the work

the hands of a craftsman with a cutting tool

they make it beautiful with silver with gold they strengthen with nails with

hammers that will not taught

like a scarecrow in a cucumber field are they

and they cannot speak

they must be carried because they cannot take a step

do not fear them

they can do no harm nor could they can they do any good

does it does it sound

like Jeremiah is going oh yeah there are other gods

um... this is just a rhetorical denigration of them but but they're real

gods

no they're idols

um...

they cannot speak

they must be carried because they cannot take a step

you think this is a rhetorical

statement that well

but for israel we only have the one god

yeah for israel we don't have the one god that's true but why

because the gods the peoples are idols farm nine six five

their idols

they don't have real existence well but then the grotto romp here

oh you're talking about the intertest mental stuff about

the unseen realm stuff that

hyzer was all big into and all that is that what you're talking about

probably I'd assume so

but

his stuff never stood up to

examination against the entire can of scripture either

that's the problem it sounds really cool and we can really make us all

look neat

i almost never have to drink but

i mentioned this during the conference

i was drinking a lot

if you see the do-point recently

it's like below zero

it is so dry right now

that it is

i mean

what

i just don't want to warn your critics i i think it's not fair game

uh... to use that as a clip

i was drinking a lot

they'll use it anyways

they'll use it anyways

uh... because they don't care what the do-point and phoenixes

look most people just don't realize how dry marches

i think you can desiccate anything just leave it outdoors it'll be gone

all right anyway

um

germ i ten six let's get back to see there is none like you oh yeah wait

there is none like you

oh yeah there's there's no team like the Denver Broncos

actually there are lots of teams like the Denver Broncos

there's a whole

football league

of teams like the Denver Broncos

and

there is none like you

oh yeah wait

you are great and great is your name and might

who would not fear you oh king of the nations

indeed is your due

from all the wise men the nations and all their kingdoms there is none like you

but they're altogether senseless and foolish they're in a discipline of

evanities it is mere wood

beaten silver is brought from tarshish and gold from ufaz

the work of a craftsman of the hands of a goldsmith

blue and purple are their clothing

these are all the work of wise

craftsmen

so they have all been made by man they come forth from the creation

but yaway

is

the true god

elohim emeth

the true god

okay

so if yaway

germite ten ten

right here

right there

yaway

elohim emeth

now this also by the way

helps you to see

the foolishness

of Joseph Smith

because we are reading the serm the grove

i've got it

right there

we're going to get back to it today doesn't look like a will

but

yaway elohim emeth

if elohim is always plural

how do you even begin to translate this

see Smith didn't know he grew

he claimed to

but how would you translate this

yaway is

the true gods

even in lds theology

yaway is a singular individual

depending on it i mean

whether Smith held the

later

definition of the first presidency or not now that's a debatable point

but still yaway is just one god

even in marminism

so yaway is the true gods

i mean it's absurd

makes no sense

yaway is the true god

singular

who elohim

khaim

khaim

la khaim la khaim

yep

yeah i know no one seems to learn the roof

um

did you ever see you do you see

hope so

uh... yes right there

uh...

that's Jewish

oh no

oh no

and i they've got me singing it too

i've watched filler on the roof

i'm gonna be on nxr next week

because clearly i'm being paid by maassad

ha ha ha

ha ha ha

uh

say

high priest of Judeo Christianity

anyway okay

him he is the true god

în chois over a a a not the true gods

He is the living God

ok

What is the opposite of true

Oh Falls

HA

what is the opposite of living

Oh

so what are these other gods

it is just a rhetorical point about the Broncos

no

there is a necessarytan mean cancers

if you're going to allow the text to have any meaning at all

um

he is the living god

and the melek olam

everlasting king

at his wrath the earthquake some nations cannot endure his indignation

then something fascinating happens here and i know we've gone over this

before but

we always have new listeners thankfully

this verse right here

is not in Hebrew bad looks like it is well yes it's a definitely a

smittic tongue

but

it's an aramaic

and

you'll notice there is a note

yeah

it popped up in the other right up right hand corner there

this verse is an aramaic that's in the lsb

thus you shall say to them

the guys that did not make the heavens in the earth

will perish from the earth and from under the heavens

why would it switch languages

because

what language of the Babylonian speaking

to the Jews

aramaic

and so in the language that they are to use and give their apologetic response

as the people of israel are being tempted to go after these other gods

now that they have insubjugated judgements come upon them

god gives to his people

in the language they need

to respond

to the people inviting them to idolatry he gives the very words that they are to say

in the language they're to say it

and where they say

the gods that did not make the heavens in the earth will perish from the earth and from under the heavens

every single god

Dan McClellan is talking about

where there's no monotheism

is described in Jeremiah 1011

every single one

they all derived from the creation

they were not the ex nihilow creator he goes into that later on

he's big and oh no ex nihilow oh no no

so wise so brilliant

uh... how come

the people of israel

we're given an answer that assumes

that god is the creator of all things

not the organizer

not moving pre-existing matter around

the gods that did not make the heavens in the earth

will perish from the earth and from under the heavens

if you're god

did not create the heavens in the earth

not god

and it'll perish away

that's the exact apologetic given by god

to his people

in the language of the people who are inviting them to idolatry

it is he

who made the earth by his power note

as throughout israel

the claim of monotheism

walks hand in hand

with the claim of creation

you cannot separate the two

read the trial of the false gods

watch

Dan McClellan saying oh no monotheism in the bible

and then you go read Isaiah 40

to chapter 48

just sit there

read it for yourself and go

you're much learning half made the mad Dan

because it has

it is he who made the earth by his power

who established the world by his wisdom

and by his understanding he is stretched out the heavens

that sounds like creation

of all things

by god

by power

wisdom

and understanding

not by the use of pre-existing materials

nowhere to be found

it's right there

so you've got Dan McClellan

there's no monotheism in the bible

you've got the bible

it's right here

you're much learning

half made the mad

okay you can of

take that down

all right

so

yeah let's go ahead

um...

oh

really

hey you want to do something live

it's just popped up

twenty six seconds ago

twenty six seconds ago

you don't get too much more

up to date

then less than one minute

huh

alright so according to hillar narius

there is a clip here from joewebin

it says it has definitely been an odd extension of his podcast and it's all

very personal

first swipe

at conceptual james the james lindsey

and the second one is host all you throw that's

me which by the way

my

nick there whatever you call it id

on the x

means as free men it's from

as free men

the third is just to show what some people are willing to sit through for an hour

and ten minutes and still call it preaching

i got to find out what this is

i got to find out what this is

all right let's see what the swipes are

uh... you got the audio up

all right

let's let's see what we got here

in other words and cause providence in his kindness

it's it's often a good litmus test

right if you find yourself your christian pastor

and james lindsey likes you

then you suck

you're a bad christian pastor

he hates god

but he really likes you

there's your sign

like that that that means

stop here for a second

so

y'all may remember

what is that

what's the

muscle bound

pimp guy that's so popular

um...

yeah you know we got arrested for

you know he

brags about how many women he's had sex with and all the rest of the kind of

stuff and

pimps women and uh... whatever is i've already forgotten what his name was

actually

i have it right i should have it right here

and rotate

and rotate

uh... and fact this is exactly what i said

he put something about about how he wins

and i wrote

i actually have it right here

uh...

if by when you mean die alone degraded empty a symbol of a wasted ruin life that

is up to you

shortly after you close your eyes and death which may come upon you at any

moment especially given the number of people you've abused and used your own

pleasure in your life

you'll stand before the holy god he is already warned you and given you more

than sufficient time

and i quoted from act seventeen thirty one

i said the empty tomb in Jerusalem is proof god the father is given to all that

the day of judgment is coming the judge will be the risen and thrown sun

gist of messiah

and he will judge in righteousness by your own confession you have no righteousness

you have reject because remember he became a muscle and you take it

you have rejected guys law dishonored your own body and abused others thousands

by your own testimony

you are guilty of every form of rebellion before your maker and you have no

excuses islam offers you nothing

the only hope you can ever have the only hope anyone can ever have is in

repentance turning from your evil and rebellion and turning to gist of powerful

savior

he can take out the heart of stone you now rejoice in and give you a heart of

flesh

he can teach you despite how scarred and torn your manhood is to be a true man a

true servant

he could even show you how to love

but not until you turn from rebellion

you want to know what winning is

I've married the same beautiful woman for almost forty three years

my daughter is pregnant with grandchild number six

he's born a name hyper

the my oldest granddaughter if she marries and has a child around the same age as

my wife and I did will give me the chance to hold a great grandchild

that

mr. Tate

is winning

guess who like that

James Lindsay

James Lindsay like that

now why would James Lindsay like that when James Lindsay isn't a Christian

it's called common grace

there are actually people in this world that can go

yes

pretty obvious that

you know

that's a much greater life to live than the one of

debauchery and

dissipation

you don't have to be a Christian to recognize that Muslims recognize that

Buddhist recognize

so

James Lindsay specifically commented

on that response

and and said yeah

listen to this this is important

that was it

I got grace and nothing to boast in myself but by God's grace and grace alone

I've passed that test sufficiently

I am thoroughly

James Lindsay

wait a minute

why

seriously suggesting that because James Lindsay finds

Joel Weben's new

NXR

wackiness

and

white nationalism and

Hitler apologetics and

Nick Fuentes friendship and

that

that that's the same thing

as

unbelievers hating

the gospel

that's the same thing

oh

right that's enough

okay continuing

I've written this in your notes

a mute demon oppressed man is brought to Jesus symbolizing another

picture spiritual helplessness

and bondage

Jesus cast out the demon without need of any spiritual ritual or struggle

notice it's not just that Jesus exercises the demon

but he does it the manner which he does it is with a word

it demonstrates absolute authority

now the crowds not just not just the individual

who is now

experienced relief from his prior demonic oppression

but all the surrounding crowds are marveling

acknowledging not only the degree

uh... that that Jesus has

such high authority

and then

last the worst position

okay no way

uh... i think it's close changed

let me

uh...

yeah this is different service

yeah the the change that the the uh...

color of the shirt changed to so i'm not sure

going on there but

hey we've only got less than a minute left in it let's see what let's see what

the second thing was

and then

last the worst position

is be right about some things but also be wrong about other things and

don't change anything at all because

you're afraid to make you look back

whoever that guy is

i don't have anybody in mind

but don't be that

in america's history was predominantly white

but it wasn't exclusively white

and i do think that

we need to not shy away from what i just said we also shown avoid what i'm

about to say which is america is unique

america's not great britain was just we're not

i'm america like we're the country that likes to make fun of great

and and

rightfully so

every fourth of july we you know we kind of we stick it to

our cousins across the point

and i think that's a good

a good instinct samara

okay so i you know

he said i didn't have anybody might maybe

he does like to do the i've grown i've changed

uh...

i remember i was in texas

um

i was uh...

preaching at jeffneils church

uh... on my way back

from wherever it was i had been in texas

and i called jol

and

we had a lengthy conversations last time we ever talked

and

i warned him

about

the audience he was trying to court

at that time

and he talked about well we you know we need to get these young men in and we need to

you know i'm

i'm just trying to meet them where they are try to

bring them to a better place

the problem is they brought him to a worser place

he didn't bring them to a better place

he's chasing them and so that's why he's moved so much

and i warned him

and he knows this

he knows that i warned

he's well aware of it

and i warned him against chasing after these clicks chasing after these

this the support

popularity

and that's what he's doing

and so this is his way of explaining all the changes

you know i mean he's made theological changes

the whole reason i was on his webcast the first time

uh...

we ended up talking about

and he's like oh that's oh yeah he now holds that position

do you think he did a bunch of

studying of

thomas equinises

writings no he

was doing self-esteem wolf

and so he changed his view

you you get along with people better that way basically

and

so

there's

you know i just popped up so

i'm like okay

um

let's go ahead and see what it's about

and uh...

play it on the air and it's always dangerous to do things like that

but sort of funny

that i had

the sermon on the grove

up in this one particular word processor i use

because it's web it's cloud-based so

if i write stuff at home it

i've got it here and stuff like that

and i'd just happen to look down and see

thought that i'd use this word processor to write that response to and

rotate

and so

uh...

it just struck me that when he said hey

if james lindsey likes you

uh... that means you're a bad pastor

no

all that means is you're a real bad thinker

a really bad thinker

the the better way of putting it would be

if you remain consistent

in your application

of the gospel

will

james lindsey know

that he needs to

make a specific decision

about the lordship of christ

and his relationship to christ and the claims of

not

well james lindsey doesn't like me so that means i've passed the test

why doesn't james lindsey like

because the consistency of your living out the gospel

no

because of your wacky political stuff

and by the way

joewebin

is right about a bunch of political things

i mean

there's there's all sorts of

there's no end

of truths that can be shouted from the rooftops about the woke left

and the absurdity of the divisions in our society and

hatred of white people

and hatred of

founding fathers of the nation and

that's that doesn't even take work to come up with that kind of stuff

that's that's the easy part

it's when you use all that right stuff to cover over

the white boy summer stupidity and the hitler apologetics and we're on the

wrong side of that and

blah blah blah blah blah and that's where you see the animus coming out

the jews did this the jews did that and now you see it all over the place

i was going to respond

actually had a cute up we'll do it next time

to that uh... lady

uh...

what's her name

um...

yeah

pre-jean

boulder

yeah carry pre-jean boulder

i had a

quote from her that i was going to be looking at

uh... from

roman catholic perspective

and

it's all about

why do pros and even juggles hate the catholic churches and like that

we didn't get to it today

and

i don't know

when the next program will be

because i have my last

my last inspection

on this

home installation thing

and it's on Thursday

past the last one

so we've got one more to go this was this is pretty much just a formality

of giving me the certificate

and turning everything on

uh...

but

and the time frame

is from seven in the morning to one thirty in the afternoon

so we've either got to

uh... go for wednesday

and this avoid that completely

or go later on Thursday

which for you guys in the east is now

an hour later

even more

thanks to you playing with your clocks again

so

just

keep an eye on x keep an eye on the app will let you know

when we'll be getting together on

wednesday thursday whenever it ends up working out

so thanks for listening to the program today even though we just started

wanted around on stuff

and spent a whole lot more time i thought we would

we will see you next time whenever it is

god bless