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well great to the dividing line here we are on a Monday
we actually
we actually take possession of the new
mobile command center tomorrow so I figured it was best to
take care of things today I noticed we didn't check the sound here but hopefully that's going to do it right there
anyway
so we're going to talk about
a lot of things around and doing strange stuff
on the on the tomorrow and plenty of stuff talk to talk about anyways so we'll jump into things here
just reminder we are heading to Utah in just a couple of weeks
and we have a debate up there
on is the god of Calvinism morally reprehensible
and that's from an LDS perspective because I specifically said well we can
you want to use that as the title great but
it's actually we're looking at both perspectives
okay is the god of Mormonism morally reprehensible
and that will be my assertion
and also doing a talk on do we need a Christian Constantine
may have to actually address the issue is whether
Constantine was a Christian
you can't question that in eastern orthodoxy by the way
can't question that equal to the apostles
Constantine yeah there's some few people that are called to be equal to the apostles
in orthodox theology or at least
some orthodox theology the orthodox like to make it sound like there's just orthodox theology
but believe it or not I mean
a bay knows to get a Greek orthodox and a Russian orthodox and Ukrainian orthodox
the same room and you'll discover the differences but anyway
so we got those debates and then the we can before that
I will be debating Shabir Ali from the new RV
this will be he's going to be online
he was going to be online all the time anyways
and I will be online
and we will be debating a fascinating topic
it's not that he hasn't debated this topic before
he and I have touched on a lot of the same things
but who continued the teachings of Jesus
Apostle Paul or Muhammad
because you know Shabir from the beginning
Shabir did the same thing that the author
of the vindication of truth
in 1864 did the same book
it's Aral Hach was the name
that's not the author that's the name of the book
that's the book that
so influenced Akhamadidat
and really launched the careers of many
Dahi Islamic apologists
over the years
and so Shabir's been doing the same thing for 20 years
and so he'll be arguing
that Muhammad returned people
to the actual teachings of Jesus because Jesus was Muslim
and so he'll do the standard
liberal theologian stuff against Paul
and Paul disagree with James
and this that and the other thing
it's your standard anti-polyne stuff
using standards he'd never be allowed
he would never allow to be applied
to the early followers of Muhammad
or the Quran or anything like that
and what's weird is
if he does the same thing that he did with me
in 2008 in London
and then in 2015 with David Wood
he'll literally try to defend
Muhammad's view
by numerous logical
defense of the Quran
now back when I first started listening to him
the big thing was the number 19
in 2015 with David Wood
it was the number seven
remember the Bible code stuff
most people don't
it was like 1999 I think
but for a while there was this Bible code stuff
that came out and you know
look at this amazing
confluence of numbers
and all this kind of stuff
well they did that with the Quran too
you can do it with Shakespeare if you want to
it's just requires you know
shall we say imaginative mathematics
and but there are certain scholars
that he quotes and for Shabir
it's always been the same thing
Shabir will cite a scholar
now he rarely gives the actual citation
when you look it up it's frequently a passing reference maybe a footnote
most often the scholar doesn't make anything big out of it
but Shabir's pulled it out
found the reference
and within three minutes
a single reference by a scholar
who may or may not have run with this
may or may not have gotten a conclusion out of it
becomes
as we have seen scholars have proven
so it only takes a few minutes of verbiage and all of a sudden
a simple reference becomes
well it's already proven fact
when it's not a proven fact at all
evidently assuming that his audience
will never check out what he's saying
that's the requirement
so
it's just it's so clear
Paul
is a contemporary
lives at the same time
lives in the same context
as Christ
lives at the same time as the disciples of Christ
that the Quran says
the disciples of Christ
we may preeminent over all others
but the modern
Muslim idea is
that Paul just wiped them all out
Paul's teaching
he took over Christianity
came up the whole new religion
and just
the actual disciples of Jesus
that were the good disciples
the Muslim disciples of Jesus
they has rolled over and played dead
it doesn't make any sense
it truly doesn't
but
that's how it goes
and
so
it's really so clear though
a contemporary
author
clearly in contact
with the apostles
that's who Paul is
over against
an individual
who cannot read Greek or Hebrew
may not be able to read
any language at all
that lives
700 miles away
and
can
end
has no historical connection
whatsoever
to the historical Jesus
does not know the content of the New Testament
and yet
gives you citations
gives you exact quotations of Jesus
and so
Shabir will question
what Mark says
but he will accept
what the Quran
says 100 years later
says Jesus said
without a
scintilla of documentary evidence
over that 600 years
I mean
that's indefensible
it's utterly indefensible
but
that's what he's stuck with
so
that'll be interesting
I hope all the tech works great
I hope we have a good connection
I cannot remember
what the connection was
like last time I was there
but I haven't been in Utah
in over two years
about two and a half years
it's been quite a while
we had our second RV
when I was up there last
so we had the
last one about two years
so it's been about two and a half years
since I've been up there
so you know
so it's been about two and a half
but I think
I mean
I think I should have changed
radically in that time
so we'll see
so we'll see
so we'll see
so we'll see
so we'll see
so we'll see
and we'll see
so we'll see
so we'll see
so we'll see
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how about we how about invite Joe Hażmire?
There have a discussion with meat we can do it remotely.
kifosky's church in florida friday night and saturday morning
and from here sitting right here
and it went really well we had no breakups we had no
issues at all
uh... there's a meeting issue once but that was probably on my own
but as far as the the platform
i was able to share my screen real nicely
it was
very straightforward
uh...
and so
maybe we'll
go that direction or whatever
uh...
but i invite joe henshmer let's
let's have a discussion
about your claim
that first climate
the epistle of climate
it's really the epistle of the church of rome the church of corn
dated
late first century early second century
there's arguments about that
uh...
but let's have discussion about your claim that this
in any way shape or form
constitutes
a testimony to early
people authority because
there's
uh... and and specifically
and let's do it based upon the original language tax
let's do it based upon
the greek tax
because for example
uh...
climate
uh... reckoning does what paul does
presbyter
presbyteros
and episcopas are used interchange
the big thing that rome is writing corns about is that the crinthians had
kicked out their
presbuteroy
their elders
not their singular bishop
there is no reference to a singular bishop
there is a
generic reference to the
the bishop as an office
but there is no use of a singular pronoun
in reference to a bishop
or the use the word bishop
the author is anonymous
the name names never given
plural pronouns are always used we exhort you
as fellow christians
there is never a
bishop that says
by my authority as
the infallible vicar christ
not there
and
the ecclesiology of the letter
is the new testament ecclesiology
plurality of elders
and at this point in time that's what existed in rome too
there was no one bishop
so there
it would have been
the elders at rome writing to the
now elderless church in corns that it kicked their elders out
so
being able to go into that and go
show me a singular pronoun
show me where the bishop show me where clement
not only identifies himself
as the bit the bishop of rome
when there is no singular bishop of rome at the time
and again i i know the responses well but later
you know urna said there was you know
urna says writing
eighty years later
and he's defending
the claims
of his orthodox branch against the nostics
and just think for a second
uh...
if someone in nineteen
if someone today
made comment about
who is in charge of the church in nineteen forty six
what's the chances that they would
have per first-hand knowledge
none it's all second
is almost nobody that that old is going to be able to give clear testimony
of something like that
uh... so
what the discussion would do would be to allow us to
document anachronism
because roman catholics are told hey sodas cognitum says this has been the
ancient faith of the church is what's always been believed
it's just simply not true
roman catholics have to believe it and so they function in light of what
they've been told to see in history
you would never get the roman catholic system
of ecclesiology authority
justification by faith since that's in their two section thirty two of
the epistle
very clearly
you'd never get that
you never get that stuff out of the original language tax
and so we'll see if it if it happens
uh... i just put i just put the invitation out there
and he seemed willing to think about it
and uh... so we'll we'll see
uh...
but
what was i looking for their
he did he did he did he
uh...
oh lego joseph remember him the lds guy
he had posted
the father fully possesses the divine nature the son fully possesses the
divine nature the spirit fully possesses the divine nature
basically being
drive from the out of nation creed
therefore there are three instances of divinity
three gods
and i responded
it's the
divine nature not a
divine nature
there's only one being of god not three not ten not unlimited number
is there any of the god i know not any
wanting from i say of course
so he
he
linked me to this video
and good old dan McLellan the dan McLellan
here's how dan McLellan works
you know and i don't know exactly where he is and everything i
i saw in our
i think we responded
on this program to some
wacky stuff he said about the new test of homosexuality
he's one of these guys honestly
that thinks
he's the only one that
really gets it
and
look when nt right does that
uh... when that is an orthodox guy does that
at least they've written
massive
homes with
forty seven billion footnotes and
stuff like that at least
they can point to something this guy can't point almost anything like that
what he does he sits down he says i'm a bible scholar believe me
and any just throws out
all sorts of disjointed
wacky
crazy stuff
and it's just like
believe me because
i'm a bible
and most of us who've been teaching
long and he's been alive
don't
just roll over and go
yes sir okay
a lot of other people do unfortunately
and so
he has this video he's wearing a venom shirt that's great
uh... that always raises things
uh... but
he says there's no monotheism the bible
just so that you are up to speed
uh...
i remember years ago when um...
Richard mal
Richard mal was the past president of fully theological senator
you may remember that mal got involved with all this ecumenical stuff with
the mormons and
they had this ecumenical meeting up there and
uh...
it was it was a mess and
this was back during the america online days
when america online just launched
and
he did this
online q and a thing
and i managed to get
in
the q
and when i asked him
about like i say a forty three ten before me there is no god for him there
should be an after me
he gave the standard
response that you expect
from your regular
progressivist
uh...
protest
they don't believe that the old testament
has any cohesion at all
unfortunately
the large majority
and this is why i you've never
i've criticized the people who do the
well the majority of scholars believe this majority of scott you know the
the hopper mossy and
hang on the resurrection the majority of you know that the minimalist argument
for the resurrection
i was never bought in any of that
the quote unquote scholarly consensus changes
fairly regularly
and
so what you have an old testament studies today
is a consensus
not based upon
having done a lot of debate on the subject is just
what has become accepted
bad reasons
so like the documentary hypothesis the well-housing hypothesis
jdp if you're not familiar with it
the uh... yowist elwist
during on a completely sources
it's the redaction hypothesis that the mosaic material
is this badly edited cobbled together mess
of contradictory material that was put together
you know
long long long after the the days
of moses and in fact they don't believe moses ever existed moses as a fictional
character
the most is fictional
the pentatook is a redacted
cobbled together mess
there is no consistency to there is no cohesion
they do not hold jesus view scripture let's just put that way okay
and this is the majority view
and it's not just a mosaic material but
everything else
from their perspective
you can believe anything
you can come up with anything
um...
so this this actually came up interestingly enough i was going to mention this
uh... but we're just wandering all the place that i am
dan barker
through something out
at elai iala in their debate
a few weeks ago
and all is
i hadn't mentioned
he throughout the ellione argument now what's the ellione argument
i've told the story
i remember the motel six hotel room
exactly which direction it faced the line ours
it was
the year
that i took my son
with me
up to
thought like city to pass out tracks during general conflict
and we were staying at that fancy motel six
every time i drive vote by those motel sixes now up there in salt lake city
i am astonished at the price on it
because
when we went up there
it was like
nineteen ninety nine i'd say per night i'd say
now sixty nine ninety nine seventy nine ninety nine per night
to stay in the same
flea bitten
uh...
uncomfortable beds that
that uh... we stayed in before
always sweet and we squeeze lots people there people sleep on the floor is
everything i we we did
um...
and uh...
i just remember
i don't know why this
it's it's amazing the things you remember in comparison to things you forget
but i remember which brown
it's probably still in the other room i don't throw stuff out
you've just said
that's because i take care of my stuff i don't have to go down
it was a brown
fake leather book bag
and i'm crammed on my resources into it because this is before
an ipad or anything like that you can't go electronic
um...
i mean my son who went with me was like
eleven
um...
and
he's two months from turning
forty
forty years old ok so this is what back
uh...
and
i remember i stood there
with this
and this was stolen
but i i i had a truck stolen out of the phoenix college parking lot
uh... years and years and years ago
they found it stripped and they had
pulled all my
books out of it and i had to this nice
red leather bound biblie hibibli hibrega student intensive
and
i
was
arguing myself do i need to bring this
because i was going to be doing four hours on the air
live call in insult like city on more minutes
and here's my Hebrew text
and i crammed it in i could just barely even carry the bag
i went ahead and took it
the last half hour of the program
the last half hour of the program
this guy calls it
and
uh...
he identified himself as bill
it was actually william hamlin a very young university
well the primary people
at the time of uh... of
the
uh...
sort of apologetics group they had at byu he was one of the leading
people
in farms
foundation for recent research in moreman studies
existing where i don't think
it's been taken over by others
um...
he calls in
and he throws out this very same argument
based on doodoro
chapter thirty two
so when i heard
dan barker
throwing it out
i'm like
wow
heard this before
and it's a it's actually based on a textual variance
and so i was able to look it up i had stuff that
hillie hebrae kastuka tencia in the back
and so i was able to look it up while bill was talking on the air
my eyes were still good enough back then to read that small print he grew
and i found the variant
and i was able to respond to his use of the text
and is used to the variant
because i had my hebert text with me
that's one of the illustrations that i used when i
the next year i believe i thought he grew
um...
for golden gate
and
that was one of the illustrations i used
why should you bother to learn this language well here's one example where
it came in handy
and so
the whole idea is that
well see
this verse says that yellow young is the highest god
and ellione
has divided the earth up and given
israel to a lesser god named yawa
or jovo
and
how can you come up with something like that
the only way you can come up with that
is to say we will interpret this one verse with a textual variant in it
in complete contradiction
to dozens if not hundreds
of other verses
in the old testament
and the reason that they don't hesitate to do that is because that's what they
believe the old testament text is it's a cobbled together
mess of contradictory gobbledy gook
and that's what they publish
that's what they put in their commentaries
so that's how they get away with it
that's not jesus's view of the old testament
and that McClellan does not hold
jesus view of the old testament
either
so i'd like i said
my recollection is
we respond to some stuff he did on homosexuality
um... did we
oh
yes
yeah we did record that
and uh... we recorded all those ktk
uh... radio programs from long long long long long long long long long long long long long ago
and they're on the sermon audio page
if i recall correctly
we respond to what this guy said about homosexuality in the new testament to
uh...
and went yeah not quite
um...
he goes on with some other stuff and again he just sits there and he just
drones
with this condescending
you all are so lucky that i'm even talking to you
i am so brilliant
and no one
no one knows what i know
type of an attitude just listen to it it it's it's
yeah
but let's listen to this um...
there's no monotheism let's listen to this first part
and then
respond to it
there is no monotheism in the bible
hey everybody i'm dan McClellan a scholar of the bible and religion increasing
public access to the academic study of the bible and religion
and combating the spread of misinformation about the same
there are two points to make here the first
so the bible acknowledges the existence of other gods from beginning to end
they are repeatedly
recognized as deities in the Hebrew bible in greco roman period jewish
literature in the new testament
in early christian literature
now sometimes those recognition's occur alongside pieces of rhetoric
that say things like i am and there is no other
there is none like me this is the rhetoric of incomparability and we find this
in ancient Egyptian literature
in ancient sapetamian literature
we find it in a number of different places and it is not a philosophical
rejection of the existence of other gods it is a rhetorical denigration
of them similar to how i as a broncos fan in nineteen ninety eight would
quip that the raiders are not a real football team it is not a philosophical
rejection of their existence it is just rhetoric and that's okay
just rhetoric
it's like being a broncos fan and saying that the raiders aren't a real
football team it's just rhetoric
they're actually acknowledging these other gods exists
but they're denigrated
does that sound familiar
let's see if anybody
in the audience
and of course is one person in the audience i can see this really is going to
help me very much but
i would be really interested
uh...
because i'm sitting here thinking
about another time you heard exactly this if you've listened to our
interactions with mormons
fairly extensively
you've heard
probably in my my gut feeling is
when i heard this not it wasn't the first time but when i heard this about
what was it it was it about
yeah it was by seven or eight years ago now
but i'm thinking about it
member
on apology radio
me and jeff and quayku
the young morgan fellow
he's still out there
um...
i'm a little surprised i think the last i heard he was still at least nominally
mormon
uh...
haven't heard much of him i don't see him doing almost anything anyway
he really melted down badly after all that stuff
this was his argument
and i wouldn't be surprised at all
if he got directly from the department
or if it's the same source they're both wrong from i don't know
but that's the idea
when you read there is no god besides me
in scripture you can go ahead and take it down work
when when you read there is no god
aside from me it's just it's just rhetorical it was
that was a common claim
uh... in mess with a me in religion it was a you know that it doesn't
it really isn't a philosophical claim
uh... it's just it's like
if you're a broncos fan in the raiders are to real football
that's
that's what you have here
let's
sort of
i don't know
think about that for a second
and maybe compare that to
you know not just have a guy sitting there in a venom shirt saying
trust me
i'm the scholar
uh...
i know all
i have a degree
yeah yeah um...
not impressed
not impressed
uh... you will you do the same thing
the difference is i go to the text
and let the tech speak
i don't say it's because
i'm somebody special
because what the tech says it said long before i was born will say the same
thing long after i'm gone
and i'm irrelevant
okay so
i have a very different view of
where i'm coming from
than dan McClellan clearly has of himself
but
let's
let's look at a text here i'm i may have a hard time getting back to the other
stuff
i tend when i get into the texture it tends to take up a lot of time but that's
okay
uh...
Jeremiah chapter ten
Jeremiah chapter ten
and
look i'm not
just pulling this out of the hat
i have a whole discussion on this
in is the more my brother
which was published in the
nineties and out there for a long time
um...
here the word which you always speaks to your house of Israel
that says yawai do not learn the way of the nations to be terrified by the
signs of the heavens
although the nations are terrified by them that would be astrology
for the statutes of the peoples are vanity because it is woodcut from the
forest the works of the hands of a craftsman with a cutting tools so he's
talking
where is where is
where is israel right now
israel's in captivity
and
the
Babylonians
are making claims to them
about their gods
our gods defeated your gods
why don't you listen to us
um...
for the statutes of the peoples are vanity because it is woodcut from the
forest the work
the hands of a craftsman with a cutting tool
they make it beautiful with silver with gold they strengthen with nails with
hammers that will not taught
like a scarecrow in a cucumber field are they
and they cannot speak
they must be carried because they cannot take a step
do not fear them
they can do no harm nor could they can they do any good
does it does it sound
like Jeremiah is going oh yeah there are other gods
um... this is just a rhetorical denigration of them but but they're real
gods
no they're idols
um...
they cannot speak
they must be carried because they cannot take a step
you think this is a rhetorical
statement that well
but for israel we only have the one god
yeah for israel we don't have the one god that's true but why
because the gods the peoples are idols farm nine six five
their idols
they don't have real existence well but then the grotto romp here
oh you're talking about the intertest mental stuff about
the unseen realm stuff that
hyzer was all big into and all that is that what you're talking about
probably I'd assume so
but
his stuff never stood up to
examination against the entire can of scripture either
that's the problem it sounds really cool and we can really make us all
look neat
i almost never have to drink but
i mentioned this during the conference
i was drinking a lot
if you see the do-point recently
it's like below zero
it is so dry right now
that it is
i mean
what
i just don't want to warn your critics i i think it's not fair game
uh... to use that as a clip
i was drinking a lot
they'll use it anyways
they'll use it anyways
uh... because they don't care what the do-point and phoenixes
look most people just don't realize how dry marches
i think you can desiccate anything just leave it outdoors it'll be gone
all right anyway
um
germ i ten six let's get back to see there is none like you oh yeah wait
there is none like you
oh yeah there's there's no team like the Denver Broncos
actually there are lots of teams like the Denver Broncos
there's a whole
football league
of teams like the Denver Broncos
and
there is none like you
oh yeah wait
you are great and great is your name and might
who would not fear you oh king of the nations
indeed is your due
from all the wise men the nations and all their kingdoms there is none like you
but they're altogether senseless and foolish they're in a discipline of
evanities it is mere wood
beaten silver is brought from tarshish and gold from ufaz
the work of a craftsman of the hands of a goldsmith
blue and purple are their clothing
these are all the work of wise
craftsmen
so they have all been made by man they come forth from the creation
but yaway
is
the true god
elohim emeth
the true god
okay
so if yaway
germite ten ten
right here
right there
yaway
elohim emeth
now this also by the way
helps you to see
the foolishness
of Joseph Smith
because we are reading the serm the grove
i've got it
right there
we're going to get back to it today doesn't look like a will
but
yaway elohim emeth
if elohim is always plural
how do you even begin to translate this
see Smith didn't know he grew
he claimed to
but how would you translate this
yaway is
the true gods
even in lds theology
yaway is a singular individual
depending on it i mean
whether Smith held the
later
definition of the first presidency or not now that's a debatable point
but still yaway is just one god
even in marminism
so yaway is the true gods
i mean it's absurd
makes no sense
yaway is the true god
singular
who elohim
khaim
khaim
la khaim la khaim
yep
yeah i know no one seems to learn the roof
um
did you ever see you do you see
hope so
uh... yes right there
uh...
that's Jewish
oh no
oh no
and i they've got me singing it too
i've watched filler on the roof
i'm gonna be on nxr next week
because clearly i'm being paid by maassad
ha ha ha
ha ha ha
uh
say
high priest of Judeo Christianity
anyway okay
him he is the true god
în chois over a a a not the true gods
He is the living God
ok
What is the opposite of true
Oh Falls
HA
what is the opposite of living
Oh
so what are these other gods
it is just a rhetorical point about the Broncos
no
there is a necessarytan mean cancers
if you're going to allow the text to have any meaning at all
um
he is the living god
and the melek olam
everlasting king
at his wrath the earthquake some nations cannot endure his indignation
then something fascinating happens here and i know we've gone over this
before but
we always have new listeners thankfully
this verse right here
is not in Hebrew bad looks like it is well yes it's a definitely a
smittic tongue
but
it's an aramaic
and
you'll notice there is a note
yeah
it popped up in the other right up right hand corner there
this verse is an aramaic that's in the lsb
thus you shall say to them
the guys that did not make the heavens in the earth
will perish from the earth and from under the heavens
why would it switch languages
because
what language of the Babylonian speaking
to the Jews
aramaic
and so in the language that they are to use and give their apologetic response
as the people of israel are being tempted to go after these other gods
now that they have insubjugated judgements come upon them
god gives to his people
in the language they need
to respond
to the people inviting them to idolatry he gives the very words that they are to say
in the language they're to say it
and where they say
the gods that did not make the heavens in the earth will perish from the earth and from under the heavens
every single god
Dan McClellan is talking about
where there's no monotheism
is described in Jeremiah 1011
every single one
they all derived from the creation
they were not the ex nihilow creator he goes into that later on
he's big and oh no ex nihilow oh no no
so wise so brilliant
uh... how come
the people of israel
we're given an answer that assumes
that god is the creator of all things
not the organizer
not moving pre-existing matter around
the gods that did not make the heavens in the earth
will perish from the earth and from under the heavens
if you're god
did not create the heavens in the earth
not god
and it'll perish away
that's the exact apologetic given by god
to his people
in the language of the people who are inviting them to idolatry
it is he
who made the earth by his power note
as throughout israel
the claim of monotheism
walks hand in hand
with the claim of creation
you cannot separate the two
read the trial of the false gods
watch
Dan McClellan saying oh no monotheism in the bible
and then you go read Isaiah 40
to chapter 48
just sit there
read it for yourself and go
you're much learning half made the mad Dan
because it has
it is he who made the earth by his power
who established the world by his wisdom
and by his understanding he is stretched out the heavens
that sounds like creation
of all things
by god
by power
wisdom
and understanding
not by the use of pre-existing materials
nowhere to be found
it's right there
so you've got Dan McClellan
there's no monotheism in the bible
you've got the bible
it's right here
you're much learning
half made the mad
okay you can of
take that down
all right
so
yeah let's go ahead
um...
oh
really
hey you want to do something live
it's just popped up
twenty six seconds ago
twenty six seconds ago
you don't get too much more
up to date
then less than one minute
huh
alright so according to hillar narius
there is a clip here from joewebin
it says it has definitely been an odd extension of his podcast and it's all
very personal
first swipe
at conceptual james the james lindsey
and the second one is host all you throw that's
me which by the way
my
nick there whatever you call it id
on the x
means as free men it's from
as free men
the third is just to show what some people are willing to sit through for an hour
and ten minutes and still call it preaching
i got to find out what this is
i got to find out what this is
all right let's see what the swipes are
uh... you got the audio up
all right
let's let's see what we got here
in other words and cause providence in his kindness
it's it's often a good litmus test
right if you find yourself your christian pastor
and james lindsey likes you
then you suck
you're a bad christian pastor
he hates god
but he really likes you
there's your sign
like that that that means
stop here for a second
so
y'all may remember
what is that
what's the
muscle bound
pimp guy that's so popular
um...
yeah you know we got arrested for
you know he
brags about how many women he's had sex with and all the rest of the kind of
stuff and
pimps women and uh... whatever is i've already forgotten what his name was
actually
i have it right i should have it right here
and rotate
and rotate
uh... and fact this is exactly what i said
he put something about about how he wins
and i wrote
i actually have it right here
uh...
if by when you mean die alone degraded empty a symbol of a wasted ruin life that
is up to you
shortly after you close your eyes and death which may come upon you at any
moment especially given the number of people you've abused and used your own
pleasure in your life
you'll stand before the holy god he is already warned you and given you more
than sufficient time
and i quoted from act seventeen thirty one
i said the empty tomb in Jerusalem is proof god the father is given to all that
the day of judgment is coming the judge will be the risen and thrown sun
gist of messiah
and he will judge in righteousness by your own confession you have no righteousness
you have reject because remember he became a muscle and you take it
you have rejected guys law dishonored your own body and abused others thousands
by your own testimony
you are guilty of every form of rebellion before your maker and you have no
excuses islam offers you nothing
the only hope you can ever have the only hope anyone can ever have is in
repentance turning from your evil and rebellion and turning to gist of powerful
savior
he can take out the heart of stone you now rejoice in and give you a heart of
flesh
he can teach you despite how scarred and torn your manhood is to be a true man a
true servant
he could even show you how to love
but not until you turn from rebellion
you want to know what winning is
I've married the same beautiful woman for almost forty three years
my daughter is pregnant with grandchild number six
he's born a name hyper
the my oldest granddaughter if she marries and has a child around the same age as
my wife and I did will give me the chance to hold a great grandchild
that
mr. Tate
is winning
guess who like that
James Lindsay
James Lindsay like that
now why would James Lindsay like that when James Lindsay isn't a Christian
it's called common grace
there are actually people in this world that can go
yes
pretty obvious that
you know
that's a much greater life to live than the one of
debauchery and
dissipation
you don't have to be a Christian to recognize that Muslims recognize that
Buddhist recognize
so
James Lindsay specifically commented
on that response
and and said yeah
listen to this this is important
that was it
I got grace and nothing to boast in myself but by God's grace and grace alone
I've passed that test sufficiently
I am thoroughly
James Lindsay
wait a minute
why
seriously suggesting that because James Lindsay finds
Joel Weben's new
NXR
wackiness
and
white nationalism and
Hitler apologetics and
Nick Fuentes friendship and
that
that that's the same thing
as
unbelievers hating
the gospel
that's the same thing
oh
right that's enough
okay continuing
I've written this in your notes
a mute demon oppressed man is brought to Jesus symbolizing another
picture spiritual helplessness
and bondage
Jesus cast out the demon without need of any spiritual ritual or struggle
notice it's not just that Jesus exercises the demon
but he does it the manner which he does it is with a word
it demonstrates absolute authority
now the crowds not just not just the individual
who is now
experienced relief from his prior demonic oppression
but all the surrounding crowds are marveling
acknowledging not only the degree
uh... that that Jesus has
such high authority
and then
last the worst position
okay no way
uh... i think it's close changed
let me
uh...
yeah this is different service
yeah the the change that the the uh...
color of the shirt changed to so i'm not sure
going on there but
hey we've only got less than a minute left in it let's see what let's see what
the second thing was
and then
last the worst position
is be right about some things but also be wrong about other things and
don't change anything at all because
you're afraid to make you look back
whoever that guy is
i don't have anybody in mind
but don't be that
in america's history was predominantly white
but it wasn't exclusively white
and i do think that
we need to not shy away from what i just said we also shown avoid what i'm
about to say which is america is unique
america's not great britain was just we're not
i'm america like we're the country that likes to make fun of great
and and
rightfully so
every fourth of july we you know we kind of we stick it to
our cousins across the point
and i think that's a good
a good instinct samara
okay so i you know
he said i didn't have anybody might maybe
he does like to do the i've grown i've changed
uh...
i remember i was in texas
um
i was uh...
preaching at jeffneils church
uh... on my way back
from wherever it was i had been in texas
and i called jol
and
we had a lengthy conversations last time we ever talked
and
i warned him
about
the audience he was trying to court
at that time
and he talked about well we you know we need to get these young men in and we need to
you know i'm
i'm just trying to meet them where they are try to
bring them to a better place
the problem is they brought him to a worser place
he didn't bring them to a better place
he's chasing them and so that's why he's moved so much
and i warned him
and he knows this
he knows that i warned
he's well aware of it
and i warned him against chasing after these clicks chasing after these
this the support
popularity
and that's what he's doing
and so this is his way of explaining all the changes
you know i mean he's made theological changes
the whole reason i was on his webcast the first time
uh...
we ended up talking about
and he's like oh that's oh yeah he now holds that position
do you think he did a bunch of
studying of
thomas equinises
writings no he
was doing self-esteem wolf
and so he changed his view
you you get along with people better that way basically
and
so
there's
you know i just popped up so
i'm like okay
um
let's go ahead and see what it's about
and uh...
play it on the air and it's always dangerous to do things like that
but sort of funny
that i had
the sermon on the grove
up in this one particular word processor i use
because it's web it's cloud-based so
if i write stuff at home it
i've got it here and stuff like that
and i'd just happen to look down and see
thought that i'd use this word processor to write that response to and
rotate
and so
uh...
it just struck me that when he said hey
if james lindsey likes you
uh... that means you're a bad pastor
no
all that means is you're a real bad thinker
a really bad thinker
the the better way of putting it would be
if you remain consistent
in your application
of the gospel
will
james lindsey know
that he needs to
make a specific decision
about the lordship of christ
and his relationship to christ and the claims of
not
well james lindsey doesn't like me so that means i've passed the test
why doesn't james lindsey like
because the consistency of your living out the gospel
no
because of your wacky political stuff
and by the way
joewebin
is right about a bunch of political things
i mean
there's there's all sorts of
there's no end
of truths that can be shouted from the rooftops about the woke left
and the absurdity of the divisions in our society and
hatred of white people
and hatred of
founding fathers of the nation and
that's that doesn't even take work to come up with that kind of stuff
that's that's the easy part
it's when you use all that right stuff to cover over
the white boy summer stupidity and the hitler apologetics and we're on the
wrong side of that and
blah blah blah blah blah and that's where you see the animus coming out
the jews did this the jews did that and now you see it all over the place
i was going to respond
actually had a cute up we'll do it next time
to that uh... lady
uh...
what's her name
um...
yeah
pre-jean
boulder
yeah carry pre-jean boulder
i had a
quote from her that i was going to be looking at
uh... from
roman catholic perspective
and
it's all about
why do pros and even juggles hate the catholic churches and like that
we didn't get to it today
and
i don't know
when the next program will be
because i have my last
my last inspection
on this
home installation thing
and it's on Thursday
past the last one
so we've got one more to go this was this is pretty much just a formality
of giving me the certificate
and turning everything on
uh...
but
and the time frame
is from seven in the morning to one thirty in the afternoon
so we've either got to
uh... go for wednesday
and this avoid that completely
or go later on Thursday
which for you guys in the east is now
an hour later
even more
thanks to you playing with your clocks again
so
just
keep an eye on x keep an eye on the app will let you know
when we'll be getting together on
wednesday thursday whenever it ends up working out
so thanks for listening to the program today even though we just started
wanted around on stuff
and spent a whole lot more time i thought we would
we will see you next time whenever it is
god bless