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This is One Bill's Live, presented by Collider Health.

Alright, how's everybody doing out there here on a Friday, Chris Brown, Christopher Paso with you?

On a Friday edition of One Bill's Live, welcome in.

We'll have plenty of draft conversation today, but it's also an OBL Friday fan mailbag, as you well know, which means any question you've got under the sun.

On the Bill's free agency, the draft have added at One Bill's Live on Twitter.

Get your questions in, and Chris and I will do our best to answer them as intelligently as possible.

Sometimes you throw us a curveball and, you know, we just got to do our best.

We don't punt, though. We never punt.

We try to answer every question that gets sent in here. Provide we have enough time to do so.

And we're less than a month away now. Less than a month away from the draft.

It was one month yesterday, so it's closing in fast, and you already see teams kind of folding their tents in free agency.

A lot of one-year deals, minimum deals, as we'll get to in a second, because the bills were busy doing that.

But yeah, most teams are shifting their focus to final draft preparations, 30 visits, workouts, pro days.

Pro days go into mid-April now. And then some of the injury guys push it as late as they can to give themselves as much ramp up time as possible.

But man, like, pro days used to be wrapped up by the end of March, and nowadays they push it into April.

Yeah, five to seven years ago, there would be one or two on April 1st and April 2nd.

Indiana is April 1st, next Wednesday. But I did see that there's a bunch that go into the following week,

which really makes it a cram session for analysts like myself. And more importantly, for the NFL teams,

ultimately deciding who they're going to pick during that weekend of the draft.

Yeah, and that's why I think there are these private workouts, because you got some teams.

And it's less so teams. It's more so medical guys that are really pushing it into late April.

But there are some schools that push it into April now. And I think some teams are just like,

yeah, I only need to see this guy. So I'm going to call him for a private workout and see if we can schedule that.

Like this week, instead of going to his pro day on April 3rd and 10th.

Yeah, I think first colleges want it to be like some of the last schools.

Yeah, they want to be a standalone standalone.

Leave that last impression on the scouts, but what you just pointed out,

and why it's kind of coinciding with a lot of those top 30 visits that we'll get to in a minute,

that the bills are hosting those 30 players that they're allowed to bring into their headquarters and work out and talk to.

They almost are happening before those pro days for that exact reason,

because they got to get those evaluations buttoned up before the month of April,

where I think a lot of those deliberations happen and they ultimately build out their big board

and their positional rankings at every spot on the field.

Yeah, so we'll get to the bills news here, because earlier this morning,

the bills resigned safety to Mar Hamlin.

He ranked a one year contract this morning.

So for Hamlin, this will be his sixth season in a bills uniform appeared in only five games last season,

though, due to a torn pectoral muscle that landed him on injured reserve.

Didn't even return for the post season.

So presumably healthy now and ready to roll.

The bills also signed a trio of veteran free agents late Thursday afternoon after we were off the air,

as they looked to infuse some depth on their roster.

They signed Titans free agent center Lloyd Kushenberry, Carolina free agent guard Austin Corbett,

who has also played center in his career.

And it's possible that each of them could vie for starting roles at left guard and center respectively.

You know, you see Corbett and Kushenberry come in, and it gives me pause,

because you have Cedric Van Prang Ranger, you have Alec Anderson,

has guard center flex.

I kind of tend to think Van Prang is solely a pivot guy.

I don't know that he's long enough to play guard.

And then you see these two vets come in, and I'm wondering if,

and I don't know anything, I'm just openly speculating,

because these things start turning my wheels in my head.

Is Conor McGovern going back to left guard?

Oh, I hadn't thought that.

I don't think so either.

Just based on the contract.

Like, if you're going to have me play guard, you better pay me more money.

But with Lloyd Kushenberry, he has been a full-time starter.

He's a five-year starter.

Now, I know to some degree this past season,

he fell out of favor a little bit,

but that was with the previous regime.

They have a whole new coaching staff now with Robert Salah,

but they let him walk.

They sign like Austin Schloteman from the Giants,

who I think is penciled in as their starting center now.

They were trying to get McGovern in free agency.

That was well known, and McGovern came back here,

but you've got a guy who is a designated center, Kushenberry,

and maybe a center only.

He is a center only, yeah.

And so I'm kind of sitting there going, all right,

well, before these signings, I saw McGovern in the pivot,

Alec Anderson, probably one of the candidates,

to vie for the starting left guard job,

and then if they bring in a vet, so then sure enough,

here comes Austin Corbett.

I was like, okay, maybe that's his competition,

but then Kushenberry comes in also,

and it's just got my wheels turned in like,

well, they're just going to put Kushenberry in the pivot

and move McGovern to left guard,

and then now you're done deal, Lucille,

and you're back to what you had in 2023 when he was playing left guard.

Yeah, that's really interesting to kind of think about that possibility,

especially because Lloyd Kushenberry was Joe Brady starting center

at LSU in 2019 at historic year with Joe Brady,

with Joe Burrow, Jamar Chase,

that we've talked about at length.

So we're going to talk a lot about,

and we have talked a lot about players on the defensive side

being players that are familiar with Jim Leonard's new look,

three, four base defense.

Well, Kushenberry knows the Joe Brady offense,

like the back of his head, in terms of all the protections

and things like that.

And in the NFL earlier in his career,

he's like you said, what a six year vet.

He's been better in past protection.

He's not this big mulling run blocker,

but in terms of the spread Joe Brady offense,

Kushenberry was the guy hiking the football to Joe Burrow

back at LSU in 2019.

So that does add a little bit more intrigue to the possibility

of maybe the bills do like him as someone with potential

to play that center spot if they do want to move Conor McGovern.

Yeah, so I'm wondering, like maybe he goes back to left guard,

which is where he started when he first signed his contract

with the bills, his first contract in free agency a few years ago.

Buffalo also signed better in free agent wide receiver trend

Sherfield.

It'll be Sherfield's second stint with the club.

He was here in the 2023 season on a one year contract.

I think we all envision Sherfield to have a role on special teams

and maybe a major one knowing the bills lost one of their primary gunners

on punt coverage with Cam Lewis now in Chicago.

So he's a guy that's got wheels.

I could see him serving this team in that capacity here

and you know, being your sixth receiver probably.

Yeah.

It's funny, a lot of people, the feedback on Twitter,

a lot of people remember the touchdown he caught

in the week 18 division clinching game at Miami,

which bounced off a player's helmet at the line of scrimmage

when straight up in the air and Sherfield was the only one

who saw where it went, tiptoed the back of the end zone

and caught the football.

Was that the game winning touchdown on that game?

Or did it extend the lead?

I have to go, I have to go back to the lead late.

It was in the second half for sure.

I'd have to go back and look but that happened right in front of me

because I'm directly up in the corner.

So that was a great place for that touchdown to happen for me.

The other end of the field is a different story

but I remember calling that play.

I was like, Sherfield sees it and he pulls it in

and tiptoed the sideline.

Got two feet and it was, it was a heck of a play

and instrumental in the outcome of the game.

So I think that's where Bill's fans remember him most

from that wacky, unconventional, lucky kind of play.

Like you mentioned, White Receiver 6

with his special teams upside.

That's where, or the, not upside.

I think he will be someone that is a core special team

or like you referenced.

That's what you want at White Receiver 6.

Established the floor, he's been in the NFL for a while now

and he can be a contributor as a gunner

and make some tackles on special teams.

So it's a familiar face that was obviously part of the

Sean McDermott era for that one season

but I think it makes sense to just shore up the bottom

of the White Receiver room before the draft.

And Brady had taken over already as OC the second half

of that year so he's got some measure of familiarity

with the system as well.

According to his own Instagram story,

Arkansas cornerback Julian Neal is on a pre-draft 30 visit here

and one bills drive with the bills today.

Neal played his final season for the Razorbacks

after he played his first four seasons at Fresno State.

6-2, 203 pound prospect.

Ran a 4-4-9 at the Combine with a 40-inch vertical

and an 11-2 broad jump.

He is expected to be a day three pick.

But if you like tall long corners,

guys 6-2 and he jumps 40 inches.

If that guy loses a jump ball and I'm the head coach

and he's coming to the sideline,

I'm like, what the hell happened?

You jump 40 inches and you're 6-2.

How did you not get the ball?

And his film is really good.

I've evaluated him.

He reminds me a lot of Mike Jackson

who had a breakout season for the Carolina Panthers

who was, I believe, a fifth rounder back in the day

like in 2019, 2020 and wins with length, physicality

and just athleticism.

There's some rawness to his ability and coverage

but a lot of plays made on the football

and you don't see too many wide receivers running past him

because he has that low 4-4 speed.

So that's a player that maybe we're not thinking about

boundary corner as a top priority for the bills

but fourth, fifth round.

That can be someone that the bills can inject

into the lineup in a depth situation

and certainly Brandon Bean has had a pretty good track record

of those day three selections

making an impact early in their careers in Buffalo.

And then according to other reports,

Navy Defensive Tackle Land in Robinson

had a private workout with the bills.

He's got another one scheduled with the Ravens.

He's another late round consideration.

I kind of saw some tape on him

that I watched this morning after I saw this report

and played one technique, played three technique.

They kind of have a multiple front there in Navy.

Sometimes it's like five-man front.

Sometimes it's four-man, four-down-man front, you know,

over front, but he played one and three technique mostly.

But yeah, he tracks as kind of a late round.

He is a big, big time athlete.

He kind of reminds me a lot of Pune Ford

who was in Buffalo, didn't have a great season here

but has gone on to earn multiple, multiple year contracts

with other teams.

He's a little bit undersized,

and that's why he's probably deemed as a day three pick.

This is Land in Robinson, the defensive tackle from Navy.

But you watch him on film,

and he is living in the opponents' backfield.

Now, the competition is not significantly high,

but if you look at the Navy pro day,

he tested like a day two pick.

So there is certainly lack of length.

He's going to be like six, two, six, three.

Or actually, I don't even know if he's that tall.

He's like six, one, six, two, under 300 pounds,

but explosive, change of direction,

speed to power conversion,

because he's built so low to the ground.

Maybe he doesn't really fit the idea

that I think when you close your eyes

and you think of the defense of Lyman

and the Jim Leonard scheme,

but I think it is important to remember

that the bills still have that Oliver.

They do need that penetrator

and a lot of these three-man fronts

do still like to have and Bren being spoke to this recently.

A upfield penetrator.

So Landon Robinson is another one,

similar to Julian Neal,

the corner from Arkansas.

If they're available fifth, sixth round,

they can be really good value players,

because they're just really good football players

that have my number one thing.

When I'm picking someone in the sixth or the seventh round,

they better be just the absolute best football player

on the field,

or have freaky athleticism

that leads to a lot of upside.

And I think with Neal and Robinson,

the potential is there

because they're such good athletes.

Yeah, I was looking.

I don't think Robinson got a combine in.

He didn't because he's small.

So I didn't get any measurements on him.

And that's why people are working him out, obviously,

because he wasn't at the combine

for everybody to see him.

So working him out,

if you're somewhat interested,

I guess makes a lot of sense.

Let's go around the NFL

and there's some interesting news here

on the media rights front.

As we know,

the owner's meetings are next week in Arizona

and they're undoubtedly going to be discussing this

or at least formalizing a plan

because NFL teams

are going to be permitted

to sell preseason game TV rights

and original shows to streamers

under a plan heading to the owners for approval

at the league meetings next week.

This is being reported

by the Sports Business Journal.

It's seen as an intriguing new asset

for teams to basically generate

more team revenue.

I think there's some concern

in the part of the owners

that team revenues haven't been keeping up

with the league revenues

in terms of increased income.

And so they're trying to find avenues

to improve that

and this looks like

it's going to be one of the things considered.

The NFL last season,

so it's best viewership since 2018.

They average 2.2 million viewers

a game for national broadcasts.

And as we know,

most NFL clubs have relationships

with local TV affiliates

but could they get more money

from streamers

knowing their game would go nationally?

And for a team

like the bills

who have transplant fans

all over the country

being able to see,

because we hear it all the time here in August.

We get people calling our show going,

is that game going to be,

is that preseason game

and NFL network also,

so I can see it here in Phoenix.

Yeah.

And a lot of times,

that is not the case.

Now, once in a while,

one of the preseason games

will be aired on,

or simulcast on NFL networks

so fans across the country

of the bills can see them.

But this could be a potential avenue

to having all preseason games

on a national level.

So I'm curious to see

where it goes next week

with the owners

and I would expect them

to approve some kind of plan

for this,

knowing it means more money

in their pocket.

I mean, we've seen the Yankees do this.

They have a deal

with Prime Video

where they air 21 of their games.

But it's only in the New York City region.

So I'm kind of curious

on what scale

the streaming agreements would be

if in fact,

you know, they come to pass

for certain teams.

So we'll see what happens there.

The Cleveland Browns

restructured Miles Garrett's

landmark four-year,

$160 million deal

that he signed last year

this week.

They moved his scheduled

$29 million option bonus

from March 25th,

all the way to a week

before the regular season,

right at the end of August.

So most believe

this could be a move

to leave the door open

to trading it,

as the Browns would not be

on the hook for that option bonus,

should they move in prior

to the option bonus due date.

And even though

the team that acquired him,

presumably post-June first,

would have to pay

$32.5 million to Garrett,

the Capit would only be

a little over $9 million

based on how the money's

structured.

The Capit for the Browns,

however, would be $41 million,

but if he's a post-June first trade,

they could split that in half.

$15.5 this year,

$25.5 next year.

So that's what would make

it palatable.

The only thing that I'm

wondering here aloud

is I would think

Cleveland would want

draft capital this year.

I know the 2027 draft

is supposed to be

filled with quarterbacks.

They're already talking

about eight quarterbacks

getting drafted

in the first two rounds

next year.

Could be.

It's supposed to be a

giant quarterback draft,

and the Browns would make sense

as a team that would be

interested since they

still really don't know

if they have one.

So maybe they are looking

for a draft capital,

and in that case,

you trade Miles Garrett,

and you're getting

an extra first round pick

in 2027 if it's after

this year's draft.

Because I don't think

you're allowed to orchestrate

a trade with a post-June

first trade that involves

a draft pick that happens

before June 1st.

I don't think that is.

I don't think so.

I mean, we certainly

have not seen that.

I don't think it's

allowable.

So.

And maybe they're not

all that enamored

with the 2026 draft class anyway,

which is largely considered

to be a draft where you can

get a lot of good

meat and potatoes starting

caliber players, but not

superstars.

Like everybody is that I've

talked to is of the opinion

that between rounds 2 and 4

is where you're going to get

a lot of good quality players

that can help you,

but not the superstar

that's going to launch you

into the stratosphere,

you know, of winning

four more games.

And more so in this

first round is probably

like the least

tantalizing first round that

we've seen in a long time

because the quarterback

class is not great.

There's not the

Jamar Chase, Malik

neighbors type wide

receiver.

The corners, the one

from Tennessee,

Jamar McCoy's coming

off an injury.

There's some quality

players, but not the

blue chip types that we

normally see at the Marquis

spots.

There's not a Joey

Bosa or Nick Bosa.

There's not a Miles

Garrett.

There's not an eight

and Hutchinson type

prospect at edge.

So I do think this

could be where I think

I get what you're

saying originally.

Like, wouldn't the

Browns just want picks

this year?

But I actually think a

team like the Browns

would be like, hey, we'll

take two first rounders

next year, or in 27

and in 28,

and maybe a solid player

similar to that

Micah Parsons deal that we

saw happen actually

right before week one

when the Cowboys

and the Packers made that

trade.

Yeah.

So I wouldn't rule it

out even though there's

a few NFL reporters

already maintained.

It's chefters

reported it.

So did Mike Garafolo

from NFL Network.

The Browns are

adamant.

They're not trading

Miles Garrett.

So clearly the Browns

are either posturing

in an effort to keep the

asking price elevated,

or they actually do

plan to keep the

reigning defensive

player of the year.

I don't know.

I saw a couple tweets

yesterday.

Yeah.

I saw a couple tweets

yesterday that we're

like showing reporters

like the week before

Micah Parsons was moved

saying there's no way

the Cowboys are trading

him.

We're only a week away

from the season.

And then the trade went

down.

They got two first rounders

and Kenny Clark.

So I think that's where

the asking price starts

for Miles Garrett.

Who is four or five years

older than Micah Parsons?

31.

31.

31.

But is a multiple time

defensive player of the year.

And as we set the sack

right.

And I was just going to say

we saw last year at 30 years

old has shown no signs

of slowing down whatsoever.

And with that

cap hit of like around 9

million in 2026.

That can be truly like

I know we hear this phrase

a lot.

You're one piece that gets

you over the hump.

If you are in dire need

of an outside pass

rusher and you can get

Miles Garrett at $9 million

on your cap in 2026.

Even though free agencies

essentially done, I think

there's still some teams

that have that need that

might be interested in them.

Yeah.

And just need to have the

room.

NFL.com draft analyst

lands zero line laid out

his rankings of the

2026 NFL draft by

strength of position

for this year's class.

The good news,

if you believe his

rankings, is three of

Buffalo's top four needs

are in the top five

of the positional

rankings for this year's

class.

At number one,

he had edge rusher.

Agreed.

At number two,

he had linebacker.

I knew it was good.

I didn't know it was that

good.

I don't know if I totally agree

with that.

Three interior o-line

four wide receiver.

Last was quarterback.

That was 11.

We really have safety.

Here, let me pull up his

list here.

Because I would have

thought that safety

would have been in his

top five.

I love Lance.

He does an awesome job.

He has wide receiver

four, cornerback five,

safety six.

66.

Okay.

Safety is a little bit

top heavy as I've started

to go through like the

middle or the perceived

middle of the safety

class.

There's been a lot of

boring tape like not

and not a lot of big

time testers.

But the top of the

safety class, which I

think maybe is not a

huge priority for the

bills after signing of

CJ.

I think we've got five

safety.

I was going to say that's

true, especially with just

the assignment.

Yeah.

That's true.

But I guess going into

free agency, I was thinking

pre-Chancey-Garner Johnson

that was one of the needs.

But I really like the

safety class.

And I will go back to saying

the ad rusher group.

At the top, there's, again,

no Aiden Hutchinson.

But I love the ad rusher

class.

And I really like wide receiver.

Yeah.

Because there's depth to

the ad rusher class.

For sure.

If you could still get one

in round two that's going to

help you, even if he's only

a designated pass or a

specialist, David Bailey

widely considered to be the

best in the group.

I think it is.

Not an Aiden Hutchinson

necessarily.

And maybe a better fit for

a three-four system in a

person on the ground, four-

three defense event.

That's the thing that

encourages me the most, knowing

the bills are switching, you

know, to the underfront

without looking for

outside linebackers, like

this class, there's a lot

of those kind of guys.

I mean, there are some

bigger hand on the ground, four-

three defense events, too.

There's more three-four

outside rush linebackers.

Yeah.

And that makes sense, because

there aren't as many of those

six-four, 275-pound guys

walking around the earth.

Yeah.

There's a lot more six-

three, 250-pound guys, which

doesn't sound like a huge

difference, but it is.

It is.

So I'm hoping that, you know,

one's available for Buffalo

because I still think they need

to add a speed element to their

past rush.

They do not have it right now.

They have power rushers only

on the entire roster.

And outside of Vaughn Miller in

what, 2022?

Was that the season that he?

Yeah.

22.

The bills have not had that

outside bendy, dip around

the corner, explosive

past rush.

Juiced up guy.

It really was not what

Sean McDermott wanted in his

defense.

He wanted you, if you're

playing defensive end,

you're going to be big, powerful,

and you're going to play first

down, second down, third down.

And B, a great run defender,

a pretty good past rusher,

and we'll try to blitz every

once in a while.

I think with this gym-

Leonard scheme, there is that

room for that standup,

past rush specialist, where it's

like, hey, it's second and eight,

it's third and six.

You're on the field,

pin your ears back,

dip and bend around the corner

in this draft.

There's about as many of those

types as I can remember

scouting the last decade.

Yeah.

Through the first two rounds,

well, this was the other thing.

So I was looking at, and I told

Steve this yesterday, I was

looking at teams in the first

round that had edge rusher as

one of their top three needs.

I counted 13 teams in front of

the bills, with edge rusher needs.

That doesn't mean they're all

going to take one, because once

there's a flurry and a run on them,

the value is going to sink

like a stone and people pivot

and go in another direction to

address their roster.

But it leaves me wonder

what's going to be left

at 26.

Like in a perfect world,

the bills are part of the second

run on edge rushers,

because you're going to have one

up at the top,

Bailey's going to go early,

you know, and then Ruben

Bane, who's Ruben Bane,

who's more before three.

Somebody like Arvel Reese

has an edge rusher,

maybe, you know,

and then where does that second

run start?

Because I really like

Armace and Thomas.

I was kind of hoping he'd

be able to do that.

I was kind of hoping he'd be

down there. It's sounding less

and less likely,

because people have him moving

up the board.

What I can see is that idea

is a really good one.

Or Cash's Hal was sure

of arms to my slide.

Being in that second wave

also too, if the bills like

six or seven edge rushers

as first rounders,

hey, we would take this guy

with the 26 overall pick.

And they're all gone.

They could certainly trade

back and be like picking

as one of the last selections

in the first round,

or one of the first selections

in round two,

and recoup some day

to draft cap.

They get another three

doing that.

Yeah, that they lost

with that DJ More trade.

So I think that could be

something,

and if the bills are okay

with the depth,

and it speaks to the depth

at the edge rusher spot.

All right, we're okay

being in the second tier.

We don't see a huge gap

between the end of tier one

and the beginning of tier two.

All those guys are off the board.

Like you're saying,

there's 13 teams with needs.

Maybe we trade back

and ultimately get that day

to pick and still get

a really good player

at a position of need.

Gotta take a break here,

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All right, back here on OneBills Live.

Chris Brown,

Christopher Paso with you.

Steve got the day off

in an early weekend.

And we are in draft season,

which means anybody

and everybody is consulting

anyone and anyone

who has compiled draft

profiles,

and the guy to my left

has done that,

with his own website,

draft GradeBills Live.

We are in draft season,

which means anybody

and everybody is consulting

anyone and anyone

who has compiled draft profiles,

draft Gradebook.

That's what we are looking at.

That's it.

DraftGradebook.com.

It's kind of like an archive.

I have all of my

scouting reports dating

back to 2021,

loaded in.

So there's over 1500

scouting reports.

That must have been

a fun upload.

It took a while,

and I tried to do it

as fast as possible,

but I launched it two weeks ago,

early March,

right after the combine,

when I figured there

would be a lot more interest,

but certainly as we're

getting close to April

with it being next week,

that interest should go up,

and I have like,

I think I'm at

155 prospects for this year's

draft.

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But let's get to the questions

from the OBL Friday Fan Mailbag.

First one,

today comes from Greg,

who says,

with our new grass facilities,

trainers and coaches,

could this be the year

we are healthy again?

I hadn't thought of that.

All those good factors.

Yeah.

I mean, the last two years

have been pretty rough

with injuries last year,

especially.

I don't think grass,

as Steve would say,

is a magic elixir

to injury problems,

because guys get injured

on grass too.

But with all of the investment

that the club has made,

you know,

with pre-hab,

rehab,

recovery,

sports science,

athletic training,

strength and conditioning,

they're doing all the right things.

And even despite your best efforts

in all of those areas

across the board,

and all of the safety measures

that the league has put

in place to make the game safer,

it is still to a large degree

a barbaric sport.

And injuries are still going to happen.

So,

I want to be,

I want to be in the company

that says,

yes, Greg,

we're going to be healthier this year.

The bills are going to be healthier.

Less man games lost to injury

than we've had in the last five years.

There's no way to guarantee that.

Let me ask you, though,

that's not specifically speaking

to what Greg is asking about here.

How did you take branded beans

comment where he referenced

a lot of the injuries?

I forgot if this was in the Joe Brady

initial press conference

or when they hired him,

whatever.

Being said something

I thought was interesting,

that a lot of the injuries

last couple of years

were self-inflicted.

And I,

tracking this on social media,

it was a lot of people,

and just a lot of people,

random people on the internet.

So,

take that,

like,

however you want.

We're,

we're thinking that it was,

not a shot at Sean McDermott,

but a suggestion that Joe Brady

is not going to have his practices

be as dialed up to 100.

You watch practice.

There were,

a lot.

I think there were a fair number

of injuries that happened

in the practice setting this past year,

more than we're used to seeing.

Is there,

I also think that,

I also think self-inflicted

could mean the friendly fire injuries.

Gotcha.

Okay.

That you see on the playing field,

like,

we saw,

DeMar Hamlin basically

give Christian Benford another concussion

in the AFC Championship game,

and he was out of the game

in the first half.

Yeah.

A couple years ago.

Taylor Rap has knocked a couple of guys.

He broke Tarrin Johnson's arm

in week one,

two years,

and started the 24 season.

Yeah.

Okay.

We saw a couple of friendly fire injuries

last year.

But, yeah.

There were injuries in the practice setting.

No question about it.

Very often,

it would be,

when we were in out there

for an hour,

a lot of 15 minutes,

but all of a sudden,

a guy would pop up on the injury report

on Thursday.

You're like,

what the heck?

And we're like,

yeah.

And it's like,

oh, he got hurt in practice.

And Oliver,

with the foot in practice

at the beginning of the year.

And then the whole rumor started

that he fell off a horse

because he rides horses.

I don't know.

It was a wacky year all the way around,

but I would say there were more practice injuries

than we have seen in recent years.

Is there any indication

that Joe Brady will

be more cognizant of that?

Hard to know,

because I will say this

about Sean McDermott,

like,

he was very in tune

with how the bodies were feeling

in the locker room.

He had his leadership council.

He would check in with them

on, like, twice weekly

to get an update.

How's everybody feeling?

Are bodies hanging?

What's going on?

Do we need to back off in practice today?

Okay.

And we also can't forget

that they're only allowed

to have 16 padded practices

once the season starts.

Like, once you use all of those,

you're at a padded practices.

Now, usually,

they use up most of those

by the time they get to week 12

because the bodies are so beat up then

and they don't want to have

handed practices.

Okay.

So, there is only so much

you can do when you're not in pads

without risking, you know,

the health of players.

And I know that the

previous coaching regime

did not cross that line

when they were not out of pads.

And I think he would

pull it out of gear

when necessary,

when he got feedback

from players.

I would anticipate

that Joe Brady will probably

be in tune with his players

in much the same way.

Trying to ascertain

whether or not his practices

pull off the gas more than

Sean McDermott's,

I think, would be a hard one

for anyone in the media

or even somebody like me to

determine because we don't see

enough of practice start to finish

during the season.

That's the issue there.

I don't think it would be fair

for anyone to make an assertion

only watching 15 minutes

of practice as to what

it looks like,

how, you know,

intense it is,

they compete,

don't get me wrong,

but to go that far,

I think, might be a little bit

of a stretch.

And just to predict injuries

in general.

Right.

But they were off last year

in the practice season.

There's no question about it.

I still remember

McDermott at a press conference

being incredulous as to how many

they had in the practice

setting last year.

Because it was unusual.

It was unusual.

There was a stretch

where it was like five-week stretch

where there was a new guy

every week on Thursday.

And it's like,

what the heck is happening on Wednesday?

Letting the week, yeah.

So it was bananas.

So hopefully that comes back

to the mean for the bills

in terms of injury count.

The law of average

just says it should.

But again,

it's football.

There's no guarantees.

Henry asks this

from the mailbag.

Sports is entertainment.

And I've been entertained

by these bills

since the acquisition

of number 17.

I hope they aren't

so focused on winning

that they bring in the likes

of Tyree Kill.

Unable players.

Unable players.

To push us over the top.

Seems unlikely

that they would sign Tyree Kill.

Yeah, I mean.

First of all,

I think people forget.

He's coming off

a major knee injury.

Like a dislocated knee.

Multiple ligaments twerring.

Yeah, multiple ligaments twerring.

Like,

it's going to be a road back

for that guy.

Who, oh, by the way,

he's 30 years old now.

I know, like,

what does Tyree Kill

look like if he's not quite as quick

and not quite as fast?

At like,

5,990 pounds.

Right.

So,

I don't,

I wouldn't anticipate it

you never say never.

But he's going to have a long road back.

Will somebody sign him?

Probably.

Provided he works out and looks good.

And there's a lot of

off-field stuff too.

Yeah, there's a ton of off-the-field stuff.

Not to mention the on-the-field stuff.

Because this guy bailed on his team

in the fourth quarter.

Like,

Jalen Waddle was mic'd up for that game.

And Waddle's going back on the field

and he was standing next to Tyree Kill.

And he's like,

Cheety, are you coming?

He's like,

No, I'm good.

He's like,

You're done?

Like, he couldn't believe he wasn't going back in the game.

So,

I don't think the same resume

that he had three or four years ago

when he was traded to the dolphins.

Right.

Not that same guy.

So, never say never.

But I would deem it unlikely.

Even though I think

we're kind of almost expecting them

to add another receiver,

presumably in the draft.

I mean,

trench, her field yesterday.

But again,

special team are largely

and probably your number six receiver.

So,

I don't see it happening.

I think it's probably

1585 that it happens.

85 percent chance it doesn't happen.

Maybe even 90.

Sarah asks,

I want the bills

to be very unpredictable

on offense.

I feel like they have some

predictability

when concade is on the field,

translation pass,

when hauses on the field,

translation run.

Yeah, there were some fans

that picked up on that last season.

Hoping that they run

more consistent 12 personnel,

send cookin' motion at times

for empty backfield,

keep defenses guessing.

I mentioned it on yesterday's show.

And granted,

there's still time to address this

by the time they get to training camp.

But the bills just let

Regigilium walk

without, you know,

a second thought

and have not signed a fullback.

Are we going into this season

without a fullback?

For the first time in a while.

And what does that mean?

Because to me,

if you don't have a fullback,

you're throwing it all over the yard.

Yeah.

And I know that,

you know,

these offenses,

they had fullbacks

and utilized them.

Heath Evans comes to mind,

among others.

But if you don't have a fullback

on this roster,

some stuff is going to be changing.

Pretty significantly, I think.

Because, I mean,

yes, hauses could do the offset eye stuff.

I guess.

But I don't think you're,

you're running the ball

in the same way that you have.

And maybe you're not

running it as often either.

And I wonder, too,

in year two of Jackson Haas,

we obviously saw him make some plays as a receiver.

One of the biggest catches

of the season came week one

on that catch right before.

Yeah, down to the goal line.

Yeah, down to the goal line

and week one against the Ravens,

where everyone,

I think even Mike Trico

thought it was Dawson Nox.

He was like, oh, it's the rookie, Jackson Haas.

I think there's still upside for him as a receiver

that his final season

or his career at Yale

before transferring to Georgia Tech,

he was a prolific wide receiver.

And the bills know

that going into year two,

they have on a very cheap deal,

one of the best blocking tight ends in football.

I wonder if this suggestion

about running more 12 personnel

and not being as predictable,

you see them with

Concade and Haas,

and Nox and Haas,

and Haas and Nox

on the field at the same time

where it's not a telegraphed run

because I do think Jackson Haas

at his age

doesn't have a lot of tread on his tires,

does have some upside

as a receiver as well.

Right.

And it's hard for me not to notice

that Alvin Camara

in that Saints offense

had three straight seasons

with 80 receptions.

I think James Cook

is going to catch a ton more balls this year.

He had 33 last year.

I think it's almost a lock

provided he stays healthy

that he's over 50

and he might be even over 60,

depending on how the ball is distributed.

But I think a 50 plus catch season

is almost a lock for him.

Based on what Camara did

in an offense

that was somewhat similar.

Yeah.

As for more 12 personnel,

I mean, with these three tight ends,

why not?

It's conceivable.

I don't think it's unrealistic

to think that that's going to be a consideration.

But I think the one thing

we do not know is

how much was Joe Brady's approach

governed by Sean McDermott?

That's the ultimate question.

These last two plus seasons,

how much of his approach

to game plan

and play calling

was governed

by the head coach.

And how much will it now change?

Now that Joe Brady's calling the shots

for everything,

including his own offense.

Yeah. When he was in Carolina,

after he was fired

by coach Matt Rule,

their 2021-2022,

Matt Rule, like basically said,

yeah, Joe Brady wanted

to throw the football too much.

Which kind of the analytics industry

with the NFL was like,

really, you were mad at how much

he was throwing the ball?

And that's where you go back

to the big DJ more seasons.

And Robbie Anderson

going over a thousand yards.

And Teddy Anderson.

Robbie Anderson.

Robbie Anderson.

Yeah, Robbie Chosen.

I think he was that's right

when he's transitioned to Chosen.

So, yeah, the history

where whether he had more freedom

as an offensive coordinator in Carolina

and then you obviously go back to LSU,

they were just a spread

past it around the art offense.

You understood why, but yes.

Yes. And so,

that's what I would look to

and I would almost speculate

that he was governed

a little bit by Sean McDermott

to be reasonably run heavy.

I will say, though, too,

which is a very good calling card

when you're an offensive

or defensive play collar.

I think Joe Brady

designed a lot of those game plans

or was part of the design

of those game plans

that was catered to the strength of the team.

Like, last year,

we can all talk about it.

Offensive line.

Offensive line.

Running backs.

Three good tight ends.

And it was a clear weakness

of the team was the White receiver group.

It would have been crazy

for the bills to run out

for White receivers

every single passing.

Right.

But even the year prior,

they were still like a 51-49

run team in 24.

Yeah.

And they led the league in scoring.

I'm very curious to see

how it looks like this year.

And if there is no fullback

in the equation,

I think that

that should not go by the board

as nothing.

I think it's something.

It might not be tremendously significant,

but it's noteworthy, I think.

Yeah.

We'll take a break here.

More of your questions getting answered

when we get back

from the OBL Friday fan mailbag

here on One Pills Live.

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Also want to remind you

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we begin our position by position look

at the 2026 NFL Draft Class

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Craig Cosell,

Senior Producer from NFL Film,

so be sure to stay tuned for that.

We're going to be starting

with Wide Receivers,

which is a hot topic

for just about every Bill's Fan

that wants one.

But let's get back

Seeing a lot of Miles Garrett talk, would he really give up the draft picks to get him?

It's probably going to take at least two ones and probably something more, whether that's

a player or another draft pick in a future year.

So it would take a lot to get him if let's just walk down this path for argument's sake.

Let's just say the bill's determined, you know what, let's get Miles Garrett, we'll

play him as a five technique defensive end, next to Bradley Chup.

You'll line up on the outside.

How about them, apples?

Like that sounds great.

All right, can we afford it?

Well, we can't really do the $9 million cap hit.

How do we make it work?

Well, they want two first round picks.

We don't have a problem with that.

We got to make the money work.

They also want a player.

Well, who do they want?

They want a frontline player.

They want a starter.

Oh, boy.

Okay.

So now, very quickly, you're like, is it worth it, is it not worth it?

I would expect them to want a player like Ed Oliver in return or Greg Russo, they would

probably want somebody that plays up on the line, maybe even a similar position.

So yeah, I think, because those players are not Miles Garrett level, but they're starting

players.

They're starters in the league.

I was going to say that how you are going about this.

It just doesn't seem like the bills in Miles Garrett could check enough boxes off.

We're like, okay, money works, draft pick, and we'll trade someone.

Could maybe one of those three where they could say, like you mentioned, hey, we're going

to be picking late in the first round.

We're okay with giving up two ones, but then the money and then who do we want to get

off this defense?

That the bill would have to send dollars out.

Presumably.

Yeah, for dollars in.

I mean, I think Ed's cap figure is bigger than Garrett's would be for 2026 based on a

post-June first acquisition, but the money comes due next year and the year after that.

Oh, yeah, down the road.

Garrett's contract.

So that all has to be rolled into the consideration.

I just, and the other thing too is, and I'm not saying, like Garrett could have obviously

play outside linebacker in a three, four.

I mean, there's no doubt about it.

He's athletic enough to do that, but he's so big and powerful and strong.

I'm just lying right next to Chubb and I have to say play five technique and go get him.

Go Richard Seymour on him.

You know what I mean?

He could do that.

I mean, that would be the prototype.

And I will say, before they did this contract readjustment, there was like essentially no

chance that he was even going to get moved.

Now do I think maybe the bills are having some internal talks about, hey, could we maybe

pull this off?

Yes.

Were they doing that two days ago?

Probably no.

So I think the chance is a greater likelihood now for the bills to make this trade or any

team, but it does seem reasonably unlikely because, again, I don't think the bills would

be able to emphatically check all those three boxes.

The draft pick, the finances and trading away a player, that obviously is not as good

as Miles Garrett on a defense that we've all kind of deemed has a lot of rebuilding to

do already.

Yeah.

It'll be interesting.

You know that a lot of teams are checking their books to say financially, cap-wise, can

we pull this off?

And then what are we willing to surrender to get them on our roster?

So I think teams are talking about it.

The reality of making it happen, I think, is a much different story and I would include

the bills in that.

Ed asks, what's left to be addressed with the roster?

Look at that segue.

That's an open-ended question, Ed.

A lot.

I think they've taken care of the safety position in terms of numbers because they've

added three.

Forget about Geno Stone, too.

Yeah.

Geno Stone, Chauncey Gardener Johnson and Demar Hamlin today.

So you now went from two safeties, Jordan Hancock and Cole Bishop to five.

You've arguably got your slot corner replacement and D. Allford who replaces Terran Johnson

who's now a Las Vegas raider.

So I think on the back end, to a large degree, you're looking for depth pieces, particularly

at corner.

I could see it corner again drafted, day two, day three, to serve as depth because we don't

know about the future of Dorian Strong who missed most of the season with a neck injury

that wasn't described as something that looked promising for his future career.

We'll have to find out.

So they could probably use some depth there.

I think it's safe to say they need depth at off the ball linebacker because it's Dorian

Williams, Terrell Bernard, Joanne Dreson.

Not much else.

So you need some depth there at the very least.

And then up front, you have bodies, but I don't know that you have proven players in this

kind of a system at the NFL level.

You have a lot of young promising players and maybe you project that they'll be really,

really good in this system and maybe they will be.

But I would like to thank you.

You prefer to have a few sure things with proven production in this system.

Week one.

Like, I know what that guy can do at this position in this system because I saw him

do it over there with Chicago, Detroit, whoever.

And I can plug him and know what I'm getting every Sunday where with some of these other

guys, they're going to be learning on the job.

And you're mostly talking defensive line like hand in the dirt defensive linemen in this

three man front Bradley Trub played in a three, four.

That's about the only guy on the roster with pro experience and Michael Hoyt.

Michael Hoyt has experience in that system as well.

But we don't know what Michael Hoyt's availability is going to be at the beginning of the season

because if at all, yeah, I mean, he ruptured that thing in week seven, eight early November

against the chief early week nine, week nine was that game.

So it's typically a nine to 12 month recovery period.

So spin November and you're you're at August.

So it and what does it look like?

Like does he look explosive or does he look like he's still on his way back, even though

he might be medically clear?

These are all things that you have to consider.

And so defensive front linebacker, I think, make the most like,

if we're talking about just strict, like what actual positions do they need?

I think those would be the top two.

You can throw in wide receiver to be like, you know, sexy, fun thing.

But when you trade for DJ Moore, you have Kileshik here coming back.

Josh Palmer, presumably healthy.

And Kate is, yeah, that it's actually not like at the top of the need list.

You could ultimately make the argument that receivers.

You could always use a white receiver, but inside linebacker and defensive linemen

and then rush linebackers, probably the biggest needs.

Yeah, because you probably capped your depth at the offensive line with the two veteran

signings in Austin, Corbett and Lloyd Cushionberry.

So you're probably tapped out there receivers like the really only place where you

got to add somebody on the offensive side of the ball, unless you want to carry four

running backs because you're not carrying a full back anymore.

But that's another conversation for another day.

Got to take a break here because when we come back, we're going to take a look at

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We'll be senior producer for NFL Films Great Co-Cell.

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I mean, honestly, so we're going to start with the receiver class.

And I guess we should start here, Greg, what is your assessment knowing you've

seen 20 some odd guys?

What do you think of the strength of the receiver class this year in comparison

to some recent years?

I think it's a deep class.

I don't think it has, you know, let's say a Jamar chase in this group.

But I think because it's, it's not a quarterback class.

I think you'll see four, three, four, five wide receivers easily go in the first

round. And I think we live in a world now where because of the way the passing

game has evolved, I think that the delineation between positions, receiver

positions has lessened, you know, everybody talks about the boundary X.

I do too.

And everybody would love that guy.

I don't think there's that many in this class, but I think because the way

the game has evolved, you know, with a lot more formation variation, a lot more

motion that there are guys who are volume receivers and there will be guys in

this class who will be volume receivers in the league who are not necessarily,

you know, in terms of traits at the, at let's say the Jamar chase or just

in Jefferson level, but they'll be really good receivers in the league.

All right, Greg.

My favorite wide receiver idea for the bills is Casey concepts the on from Texas

A&M. Tell me what you think about him.

You can either tell me that I'm crazy or you can add more fuel to my fire.

For the bills to have him, what I think they should have him near the top

of their priority list, if he falls to them at 26 overall.

Yeah, I like Casey conception on and, you know, obviously a lot of these guys

I've done before before this season, um, conception was not one I did a lot

out prior to this season, where, which was his first at Texas A&M.

Now, to me, I mean, he's sudden, he's twitchy, he's got short area,

the explosiveness.

He's got accelerating vertical speed.

I think he can be a factor at all three levels of the defense.

I think you can line him up anywhere.

You can use the snap with pre snap movement.

The wide receiver screen game has become more prevalent in the league.

You can do that with him.

I don't know about you, Chris, but I player.

I constantly thought of watching conception.

He reminded me of Zay flowers coming out of BC.

So that was the player, you know, for me.

And again, so people understand, I don't watch a player and then put my,

you know, head on my desk for 20 minutes and try to think of who he reminds me of.

Something it just hits me.

It either hits me or it doesn't hit me.

And I thought very much that that's who he reminded me of.

And if he turns out to be that player, whoever drafts, I'm going to get a really

good player, but I'm with you, Chris.

I really like conception on tape.

And I think it translates well to the league.

Yeah, he's a little bit bigger than Zay flowers too.

Yes, he's, he was over 511 and 196 at the combine.

And he is a very explosive athlete.

Someone that I saw just a quick follow up and I want to hear your thoughts on this

because I actually like the comparison game a lot.

I think it helps the audience just kind of get that visual.

I mean, I can't say that I remember scouting him.

I didn't scout him back in 2009 or 10.

You probably did.

I saw a lot of Doug Baldwin to his game that he plays bigger than his size and

is that explosive athlete that can win in the slot and on the outside.

Like you said, too, at all three levels of the field.

Yeah.

And I love Doug Baldwin.

I actually got to know him a little bit when he played for Seattle.

I think that conception is a little juicier, a little more explosive, a little,

a little more sudden than Baldwin was.

But I could see that comparison, but you know, as we're looking at these highlights,

you can see that he is one of those kinds of receivers that can take you to the house

on any play.

I'm forgetting what team he had the big game against early on, where he caught two,

two long passes early.

Yeah, I'm blanking.

It might have been, uh, boy, I'm trying to always have Carolina.

South Carolina had the big game because I remember I was watching the corner

of the game and the safety guards, Jalen Gilmore and he had the big game.

I think about seven for 150 and you just saw the explosiveness that it just stands

out.

He's sudden and twitchy without question.

Uh, Denzel Boston is a guy that's been mocked to the bills also at the end of round one.

Um, not the same skill set as concepts, you know, in any way, shape or form,

but, uh, pretty darn effective up there for Washington.

You know, it's so funny.

When you said mock to the bills, you know, it reminded me of when I was in

Nashville a few years ago and I did an event and the general manager at the time

was at the event and somebody said, you know, everybody says, you know,

so and so is, is, is better than this guy, you know, who this GM was talking

about and the GM said, according to who, you know, so whenever I think about

like these mock drafts, guys, I always think, well, according to who, you know,

I know is I watched Denzel Boston actually watched him last summer from

all his 2024 tape and this year from 2025.

Um, I liked Denzel Boston.

You know, I think we, we tend to think of taller receivers like this.

We put them in categories and, you know, a lot of people say, well,

it's, it's Drake London or it's Ted Macmillan, you know, and Ted Macmillan

proved to be a much, uh, you know, looser athlete than Drake London and he

could line up truly outside where his London does all his work inside.

I think Boston is closer to Ted Macmillan.

I think you can line him up outside.

I think he can be a factor out there.

I mean, you're dealing with a guy that has a physical dimension to his game.

He's got outstanding hands to snatch the ball.

He can make tough, contested catches in all areas of the field.

Um, I like Boston.

I'd be very curious to see, you know, how he's deployed in the league because I

think he is a player that you can line up as your boundary acts as that single

receiver to the short side of the field and then he can win for you.

Ted Macmillan though, I mean, that guy was like, I'm mid first round pick.

Like, are you thinking like he could get that kind of consideration?

Oh, I don't, you know, Chris Brownie, I don't, I don't do that stuff.

I don't, I know, I'm just, I don't know where guys get through that.

Right.

And strength of the classes of factor two, you can be in the league.

Yeah.

I, I, what, you know, what I saw on tape and what I think you could be in the league,

you know, then it comes down to teams boards and how they have players evaluated.

That's things I don't know.

I don't, you know, I try not to talk about things I don't know.

But, uh, you know, Macmillan obviously was a top 10 pick.

I think we'd all be surprised if Boston was a 10 pick, but I think he's closer

to Macmillan in his traits.

But in other words, I don't think you have to just line him up inside,

which is what Drake London is.

He's not limited to that.

I think you can, yeah, I think Boston can play on the outside.

Okay.

Greg, I got you.

Before I get to my next receiver that I want to ask you about, I want to go more

broad with evaluations, especially at the wide receiver spot and just your

general philosophy.

I mean, this is pretty point blank.

What do you think is more important?

And when you're watching a wide receiver, do you place separation higher than

that contested catchability?

Do you think and have you seen over your decades of watching NFL film?

Does it matter, especially more recently to be a better separator or to be

really strong handed and have that physicality against press and during the

route?

Like what characteristic or trait do you think is actually the most important

at the wide receiver spot?

Well, I think that at some point, you have to win against man coverage.

And there's multiple ways to do that, depending on what kind of receiver you are.

For instance, Boston is not likely, you know, to win versus man the same way

that Casey Concepcion is likely to win versus man.

But Casey Concepcion is also not going to go up and make a ton of back shoulder

catches and snatch the ball out of the air and high point the ball.

So at some some point, Chris, you have to win versus man.

Now, there's no question that I pretty much certain that every wide receiver

coach would tell you that you have to be able to separate at the top of your

route stem. However you do that, some guys can do it with just great, great

quickness, great separation quickness.

Other guys can do it because they have a little knack for being physical,

you know, not pushing guys because then you'll be called, but just they're

able to sort of, you know, initiate it in kind of a nice way, a little contact

and separate that way.

So it depends on what the receiver is and what ultimately his traits are.

But I think you have to be able to separate versus man.

Then, of course, you have to have some understanding of voids in zone coverage.

I mean, I've seen a lot of receivers who have no sense to that and they just

keep running right in through zone coverage.

And the quarterback wants to throw him the ball and he can't because they never

stop in a void.

So I think it depends on the nature.

I got ripped a few years ago because I said that Lad McConkey, based on the kind

of receiver he was, did not have, um, it was not able to make, you know,

contested catches going up against people and I said, you know what?

You're right.

But no one would ask him to do that because that's not who he is as a receiver.

So, you know, I think you have to look at what the receiver is and how he can

win.

Speaking of that, a guy that I thought had really good contact balance and was

a tackle breaker after the catch is Omar Cooper from Indiana.

What did you like about his skill set?

You know, it's really interesting.

You mentioned him because I think he's a fascinating guy in this sense is we

know what Indiana's offense was.

They ran a ton of RPOs.

They didn't really ask their receivers to really play much against man coverage.

So we didn't see him, you know, win versus man very much.

Now I don't think that that means he can't do it.

Obviously, and I'm certainly because I don't work for a team not going to be

working him out, but, um, you know, overall, I kind of liked him.

I mean, you know, he didn't run, he ran relatively a limited

route tree and that's okay.

That in and of itself doesn't mean he can't play in the league, but he's

naturally quick.

He's, he's a very fluid athlete.

His movement is easy.

I thought the thing he did well that plays off with you said Brownie is that he

sort of had that seamless transition from receiver to run after catch.

He showed that quick burst and sort of easy fluid acceleration.

So, you know, I like Omar Cooper.

You know, I know that in the last week, you know, I always find this humorous

and and Brownie, Chris, you guys will appreciate this.

I always find it how guys changed their view of these guys, you know, over the

last like a couple of weeks, you know, unless I'm mistaken, nobody has really

played over the last couple of weeks.

Have they?

Maybe I'm missing something.

I just think they're late to the party and watching them on film.

And then suddenly, you know, their opinion has changed.

All right.

Well, once I watch a guy and Chris knows this, once I watch a guy, I'm done.

You know, I don't change my point of view based on, you know, mock drafts

or where they're placed or, you know, unfortunately, I get the chance to talk

to coaches and a lot of times they say they'll say something that really

resonates to me, but even so, um, unless we're so far apart on a player, I

don't really change what I feel based because I've watched the guy, you know,

I've seen him.

I've seen him play going from a white receiver that played and won the national

title with Omar Cooper Jr.

to a small school, a white receiver that would be my favorite idea for the

bills at 91 if they go a different position in the first round.

Ted Hurst from Georgia State, I will leave the floor to you.

Tell me your thoughts and just the overall Scotting report because I'm a huge fan.

I want to hear what you think about Ted Hurst.

Well, you know, I reached out to a scouting friend of mine after I watched Hurst

and I basically said, let me ask you this.

If Hurst showed this traits profile with this kind of production in a power

for conference, would he not be a first round pick?

And the response I got was he would be.

So basically what we're saying is because of the level of competition,

which by the way is valid.

I'm not knocking it.

Obviously he did not play in the SEC or the big 10 or the power schools.

I guess it's power four now and not power five.

But I really like Ted Hurst traits.

He's big.

He's got juice to him.

I mean, I thought he had accelerating vertical speed with his size and his

stride length.

I thought he had natural quickness for that size.

I thought he was competitive, both in terms of power and some

shiftingness run after catch.

There really was not much I didn't like about him.

Now I thought he had a few too many drops.

But he also caught the ball very easily.

So, you know, again, now we can talk about the level of competition,

which will definitely be a factor when teams, you know, put him on their board.

But I think if you just look at the traits and by the way, size and stride

length is a trait.

I didn't see much that I didn't like about him.

I really liked him on tape.

I mean, I think that's something that a lot of scouts wrestle with is the

catch rate because, because, you know, drops are drops and, you know, sometimes

their concentration drops would have you, but also for a receiver who runs a

lot of deeper routes on lower percentage throws.

I always wondered how scouts factor that in to a, to a player's overall

catch rate, because Ted Hurst is like 55%, which isn't going to wow anybody,

but I think that's why you have to watch the tape.

Oh, of course.

And, you know, look, in addition to watching some games, I watch all the

past targets for every receiver I do.

So, you know, if a guy has, you know, 140 past targets, I'm watching all 140

of those.

I'm not just pulling up, you know, oh, give me his 10 plus charge perceptions.

I'm watching all of it.

That's what I do with receivers.

And then I'll watch some games as well, depending on who they're playing against,

you know, but, you know, again, drops are interesting.

You make a great point, Brownie.

Sometimes drops are, you know, a function of a guy has bad hand.

And by the way, I learned from one of the best receiver coaches who people

believe is one of the best ever years ago, coach in the league for over 30 years.

You can actually teach guys how to catch the ball.

He was always a believer that bad hands is, is, you know, that he said, that's

lazy coaching.

He said, you can teach guys how to catch a ball.

And so, again, I don't, you know, I try to study that when I look at guys to

see how they're catching it and whether I think that can be fixed based on what I

was taught.

Yeah.

Jeremy Bernard is another guy that I found interesting.

He seems to have some versatility to his game, which I think a lot of NFL teams

will find appealing, not the least of which I think is a pretty dang good run blocker.

Yeah.

Well, again, this is cliche, but I'm going to be cliche for a moment.

If you'll allow me, I just think he's a really good football player.

You know, he's one of those guys that I think is the explosive no.

Is he likely at the NFL level to run by people?

No, but I think he knows how to run routes.

He's physical, he's competitive, he's tough, he's good run after catch.

I just think he's one of those guys that's a really good football player.

And you know, the one thing you saw in Alabama's offense is that they ran and we

just see this play.

You they ran a lot of routes that are NFL type routes, dig routes, those kinds

are here.

He is catching it in the in the Turkish, you know, shot hole versus cover two.

I mean, he ran a lot of routes that you see in the NFL.

So he has an understanding of how to run those routes.

And you can see right here against Georgia that he has run after catchability.

So I would bet that that defensive coaches would tell you that his quickness is

deceptive.

He's like I said, he's not going to he's not a burner.

He's not going to run by people on vertical routes.

Although every once in a while, he will because he knows how to set up corners.

He knows how to shorten the cushion.

He knows how to step on their toes.

But I just think he's a really good football player.

And my guess is he's going to be a good pro.

Now, is he, you know, I don't want to get caught up in as he a number one is he a

number two, I think as I said, that delineation unless your special special is

kind of changing the way teams run past games in the league now.

But I really like him a lot.

Bernard reminds me so much of Richard Higgins when he was coming out of Colorado

state that didn't test really well, but it was just a really, really

productive and good football player.

But I want to ask you about another SEC wide receiver.

Chris Brasel, tell me how he's different from Jalen Hyatt and

Cedric Tillman that came from that wide, super spread offense where the outside

receivers are like running down the sideline.

Do you like Brasel more or less than those other two wide receivers that were

both really productive in Tennessee?

Yeah.

First of all, they didn't run that same offense this year.

I mean, I watched a lot of their games.

They played a little more of a more conventional offense with more reduced splits

at times they had two backs in the backfield or tight end in the backfield.

It was not the same Tennessee offense that high it was in that

hand in hooker when he played quarterback was in.

And I don't, you know, again, I don't know why Josh Hyatt will change.

Maybe it was a function of Joey Aguilar.

Maybe he just decided he wanted to change some.

So they did not run that same offense.

So I don't know if that analogy fits this year.

But Brasel is going to be intriguing to teams because he's six four.

He can run, but I got to tell you, I thought he did a really good job of running

around.

So I thought he was able to stop and break pretty effectively.

You know, I don't think he's just a vertical guy, although obviously he can run.

And he can make these kinds of catches that we're looking at now.

Tough catches that ball was under throw and obviously, but I, I,

Brasel's a really intriguing guy to me, you know, just the size, the length.

Now, keep in mind, there were times even on vertical routes where guys did run with

him. So, you know, it's, it's not just, hey, he ran a four three seven.

He's going to run by everybody.

And by the way, as we all know, that doesn't happen automatically in the NFL.

But you see here that he can run by people.

So I think it's a little different.

I don't think that Tennessee offense was exactly the same.

He's going to be a fascinating guy is to where he gets drafted.

Somebody's going to fall in love with him, Chris.

Six four, we're in a four three seven.

I mean, somebody's going to love this kid.

Yeah, I was really struck by his route.

You want to, you want a vertical threat?

This guy is that like 100 might be the best vertical threat in the draft.

I mean, with that speed and that size and his ability to run routes, my goodness.

Let's wrap it up here.

Smooth. Yeah, yeah.

Let's wrap it up here, Greg, with a couple of bells.

Chris Bell, who obviously has the ACL, but a big physical guy.

And then the Wisconsin transfer who went to Yukon, Skyler Bell, who lit it up for the Huskies.

Yes, Skyler Bell.

I really enjoyed watching because I think Skyler Bell knows how to run routes.

I think he's polished.