October 7: The Lies, The Truth, & The Woman Who Was There

0:00I told you it was not an act of war. I told you it was a war crime. I said the Jews fight is my fight. I still believe that and nothing that's happened since has changed my mind even a little bit. Things have bothered me in the last three years and what's bothered me lately is something that's happened with the New York Times, one of the most powerful newspapers in the world. So what did they do? Well, they ran a column suggesting Israeli prison was a very important thing for me. So what did they do? Well, they ran a column suggesting Israeli prison guards trained dogs to rape Palestinian prisoners. And it was sourced in part from a group whose own chairman publicly celebrated

1:05the October 7th massacre. Now we reached out to the Times for this episode and they reacted. They stood by every word. They say it was rigorously fact-checked. Well, fine. We're going to put that on the table tonight and you can decide for yourself what was rigorously fact-checked. But here's what I keep coming back to. That column ran one day, one day before the most comprehensive investigation ever conducted on what actually happened to Israeli women on October 7th was released. Two years of work, 10,000 pieces of evidence, 430 testimonies. The Times say, well, the timing was just a coincidence.

2:07We didn't know that that was coming out. Supposedly, the top newspaper in the world, investigators didn't know this was coming out. I'll let you be the judge of that, too. What I won't let anybody be the judge of is whether tonight's guest is telling the truth. Because she doesn't need anybody's permission to tell her story because she lived it. It's not hearsay to her. She was there. Noah Bear was at the Nova Music Festival on October 7th, 2023. She was there at 6.29 AM when the world changed. She survived something most of us can't even imagine. And she's spent the years since refusing to let the world look away, refusing to let the world forget, refusing to let the world just move on. And if she's brave enough to live it again on camera, the least we can do is watch and listen.

3:11The footage you're about to see comes to us, courtesy of Josef Dodd, and the I-24 news. Take a look. On the evening of October 6th. 3,500 young people came to a nature festival produced by Noah in the area next to Kubutsari. A distance of only 5 km from the Gaza Strip. There, they danced and celebrated all night with electronic music until 6.29 the next morning on October 7th. At that moment, the music turned off and sirens filled the air instead, warning of rockets fire from Gaza, followed by the terror attack by Hamas, the truck the world. Hundreds of Hamas terrorists infiltrated Israel and began slaughtering by standards. Those in the fields, those who tried to escape in vehicles and those who hid in shelters or grassy areas.

4:16Terrible acts of torture happened there. Gang rape, mutilation, and kidnapping. The result of the massacre? 367 were murdered at the party. Another 43 were kidnapped to Gaza. This is the worst terrorist attack that Israel has experienced. Well, Noah, welcome. Thank you so much for coming on and talking about all of this. You do it for a reason and a purpose, but I know it also has to be very painful to relive. Yes, it is, but thank you so much for having me. What was the vibe like before everything changed? And every question I'm going to ask you has a purpose. And the reason for this one is because part of the assertion that's been made is that the people that were killed were combatants. And you were there. What was the vibe right before this happened? What was the vibe at 625?

5:18So you're right that one of the biggest misconceptions is the fact that people think that the people that went to this festival were combatants. There's something that a lot of people don't understand about our community, the Sy Trans community, the festival community in Israel. We are part of the worldwide music community. We are music lovers, peace lovers, people who enjoy dancing in nature and then being around other people. Most of the people that go to these festivals go to festivals all over the world and communicate and befriend people from everywhere. The atmosphere at 620 in the morning was incredible. The vibe was beautiful. The people were happy. The sun was just coming up and I think that one of those moments, it's one of those moments where things just click. It's so beautiful to see a dance floor filled with beautiful young happy people just enjoying music in nature.

6:19One of the beautiful things about this community is that the people who are part of it, genuinely love humanity. You'll look onto a dance floor like this and you'll see people hugging and smiling and enjoying themselves. None of us, not a single one of the people on this dance floor on that morning were combatants or people who had any agenda politically whatsoever. It's just people that went to a music festival, a lot of people are aged here. Take me through the moment when you realized that something was seriously wrong here. So at 629 I was literally on stage looking at the crowd. I was filming my friend playing his music and suddenly I felt an arm grab my hand from the side of the stage and it was a security guard.

7:19He pointed towards the sky and it was a moment where you don't really realize what is happening but you understand it in your core. What I saw was just hundreds of missiles in the sky. Living in Israel for long enough you know what a missile looks like but never have I in my life seen such a huge barrage of missiles. It was like the sky was colored in in gray and blacks for a moment. When I looked at it I realized very quickly that this is a situation in which we need to stop music now. We need to let people know what's happening. We are so close to the border. We're in an open field. There's literally nowhere to hide. We need to disperse. We need to stop the music and we need to let everyone know. The first thing I did was ran to the producer on stage and told him red alert which means that there are missiles in the sky and that we need to turn off the music.

8:20That's exactly what we did. It was one of those moments where your reality shifts in a way that is very hard to explain because all you have in your mind is we were enjoying our Saturday morning and now there's just missiles in the sky. How is that fair? How is that okay? And then realizing that this amazing production that these very talented people built is just going to stop now and we're all going to need to be sent home. And this is way before even understanding how big of an event and a situation we actually are in. It felt as though our reality was just disconnected in a moment. You know what they say? If I knew then what I know now just last year when I partnered with Preserve Gold Gold wasn't even trading near $3,000 in ounce.

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10:29I'm going to go to the next floor. I'm going to go to the next floor. Go to the next floor. Go to the next floor. At this point it's a collection of videos throughout the day. This specifically is a bullet that hit my car that I was driving. It happened very quickly but on the other hand, it took a while to build. When the missiles started, we thought it was only missiles. Then we found ourselves scattering to our cars and starting to drive away. Most of us tried to escape through the road. I was one of the first cars that got on the road that morning and driving north. Suddenly, after about 10 minutes of driving, the car's in front of me crashed. I didn't realize what was happening. I wanted to get out and help because I thought they were confused or something happened.

11:34Or maybe they swirved and hit each other. When I opened my car door to help, that was when the first bullet was fired right next to my face. I was like, hello, the videos that are part of the video that you just showed are later in the day of people that didn't even make it to the road. We were the first ones that got to the road but at some point the terrorists started closing in on the festival grounds. And a lot of people who either didn't manage to get on the road because they didn't have enough time or they were gathering their equipment and they didn't make it to the road yet. They found themselves just running through the fields for hours. And again, it was so difficult to try and understand where to go, how to go, should people try and get in their cars, should they run. There were thousands of terrorists that just came in on ground through the sea, through the sky. They were paragliding and on motorcycles and on cars.

12:34And it just felt like such chaos. People were running in every direction. Personally, my experience on the road was that after the first bullet that I noticed had been fired, it just grew and grew. I saw one terrorist which was dressed in full idea of uniform. So it was very confusing at first because I can understand what was happening. And the moment I realized he was a terrorist, it was already too late to get back in the car and just try to drive away because more terrorists came running in from the field. I found myself completely surrounded. I was with a DJ from Hungary that morning and he was with me in the car. And we found ourselves huddling behind the car door, trying to protect ourselves by any means necessary. But I really just was no way to defend ourselves. We were talking about train combatants that came in with guns, RPGs, grenades and everything that they could bring with them.

13:37And they were using everything in a way that was just inhumane. And I think the most terrifying thing about this whole situation was seeing how happy they were with what they were doing. You got close enough to look one of these guys in the eye. What did you see in their eyes when you actually got to a point where you looked and swear in the eye? So standing close enough to a person that is trying to kill you to look them in the eyes is a feeling that I, to this day, find very hard to explain. But the most surprising and I think the most terrifying thing about the situation was he was smiling. Not just a tiny smile, but a huge smile on his face. It looked as though he was waiting for this moment his whole life. And again, I'm defenseless. I'm sure I look terrified. I'm sure I look confused. And he was just looking me straight in the eye, shooting at me and smiling a huge smile.

14:39Like this was the happiest thing that has ever happened to him. And I think that's what stayed with me since seeing how terrible the hate can be in someone's heart. How how blackened someone's heart can be by hate. He this terrorist has probably grown up in a world where he was told that killing us was the meaning of his life. And he made it look like he was happy to to live that meaning. And for all of us, I think every single testimony of every single survivor that I've heard and my personal experience, it felt like a celebration to them to be able to come into our lives, our homes, our country and eliminate us, dehumanize us, try to take away everything that was living in us. It felt like they were enjoying themselves. I think that's the worst thing about it. And you realize, I'm sure that the odds are you shouldn't be sitting here talking to me right now.

15:48Given the situation you were in surrounded completely, bullets hitting your car from both sides, that odds are you should be dead right now. The odds were stacked against me very highly. I unfortunately know today that no one in the cars around me survived the people that I managed to get in my car, myself and the DJ that was with me, we aren't practically the only survivors from that 200 meter stretch of road. It was practically impossible. There were over 40 terrorists with guns, another two trucks with RPGs grenades exploding everywhere. I cannot explain how unreal the feeling is knowing the danger that I was in and knowing that I am sitting here healthy on two feet and able to tell this story.

16:49But I also feel that being able to survive something like that with the odds stacked so harshly against me has made me want to talk about it and make sure that people never forget this happened because I needed to find a purpose. I felt like if something like this happened to me and I managed to make it out alive and so many people around me didn't so many lives were lost around me and I was lucky enough to be able to leave that place and stand on two feet and have a voice. Then it is my job from now until the day I die to make sure that no one ever forgets that this happened for the people that died around me and will never have a voice. You teach people how to treat you and if you took whatever Medicare plan somebody handed you and never ask a single question, well, you taught them you'd take whatever they gave you. That's why millions of people are overpaying for their Medicare right now.

17:55So teach them something different get somebody in your corner who asked the right questions and gets you the coverage you deserve. That's chapter they're independent, they're licensed Medicare advisors advocate for you instead of for the insurance companies and they'll compare every plan in the country until they find the one that actually fits you. You're not the easy mark anymore. Do you feel like you were spared for a reason? Do you feel like you were spared to do what you're doing now? Today I do. For a very long time I felt like there was no purpose. Like it was just a stroke of luck and that I need to try and understand it. But having the ability to speak and going around the world speaking to as many people as I possibly can, I think I was left here for a reason that is to make some kind of change in the world.

18:59I know I'm not ever going to be able to change 100% of people's minds, but if I was left here I have made it my life mission to make sure that hate like I saw that day never spreads that the memory of the friends that I lost never dies. And that we remember how bad humanity can become if we let our hearts black into that state. I feel like I was left here to say a terrorist looked me in the eye and smiled and I will never let that happen to anyone again if I can control it. How do you feel about the people that are in the world like the New York Times and others that scoff at this and say no, that didn't happen that that's just simply being made up that didn't happen that these were combatants. This is all being fabricated and that Palestinians did not rape Israeli women did not kill Israeli infants and toddlers that all of this is just made up.

20:09I'd love to understand how people allow themselves to say this is made up when the Hamas terrorists literally live streamed it while it was happening. I think that the people who allow themselves to say that this is made up and that it didn't happen are people that allow themselves to say things that are just untrue. The misinformation that is spread around this idea and in this situation and everything that happened is a way of people to take sides when it fits their agenda. I don't differentiate human suffering. I will never say that the Palestinian people don't suffer. But on the other hand, I will not allow people to say that we have not suffered. I'd like to find these people and tell them about the 12 funerals that I attended following weeks of my friends that were 27 28 29 year olds that went to a music festival not combatants, not soldiers, people with bubbles and and litter on their face that went to a music festival and were murdered.

21:21And to the people that say that this didn't happen, how could you, how can you? Like it's something that is so surprising to me each and every time that I come across a person that says I don't believe that this happened. And I ask them, but what is there not to believe? How is it so easy to believe one side and then completely cancel the other? Why are we being questioned over and over and over again by the world? Why are we being held to such high standards and being accused of making something like this up? What do I get from making something like this up? What do the released hostages that were held hostage for two years in a tunnel and were abused and sexually assaulted? What do they gain from making this up? I want to progress through some of the claims that have been made so we can knock some of these things out. And one of the first claims made was that rapes just simply didn't happen.

22:24And the fact is you actually received a voice note during an attack of a woman that was screaming. This is something that you have first hand knowledge of, correct? Yes, it's not even just her screaming. I received a voice note at around noon of some from a girl that was hiding in the bushes and she was recording herself saying that she was witnessing a rape live. And then she went silent and all you could hear was a woman's screaming. There is no question about what was happening to that woman's screaming. And then three shots and silence and you could hear from a girl recording her breathing completely going insane. It was one of those moments where you catch yourself not understanding where humanity, how low humanity can go.

23:25And it's one of the reasons why it's so inhumane that they then come back with a claim that Israel trains dogs to rape Palestinian prisoners. And so it's like, okay, that's the story that the Israelis are telling. So now they're going to one up that and say, Israel is training dogs to rape Israeli prisoners. The K9 expert on the world calls this claim anatomically implausible. There's just no independent forensic evidence to support it whatsoever. And we've talked to experts around the world. Nobody has any evidence that you can train a K9 to rape a human being and certainly not on command. What do you think when you hear that kind of outrageous, ridiculous assertion?

24:25My internal reaction was just exhaustion. Was just exhaustion of the fact that people continue to try and justify the horrific things that happened with more horrific things that they say that are happening. So accusations that are dangerous. It makes me fear for my own safety, for my fellow Jews and Israelis safety, because when people allow themselves to spread misinformation so devastating and so horrible. And then people don't build the critical thinking to ask themselves, is this really possible? Then it becomes dangerous because if people truly believe that the Israeli jail system is able to do something like this, then that dehumanizes us again. It makes us look less human. It makes us less look less okay to the world and that's dangerous because that allows people to become violent towards us. Absolutely. I felt reading that article like I was personally accused of something that I didn't do.

25:30Their claim is that they investigated the Israeli atrocities fairly. And they clearly ran unverified, Hamas-sourced allegations. Their own newsroom never corroborated them. And again, we know the facts. What I'm interested in is how you feel about the fact that a supposedly legitimate newspaper, the New York Times, sources something where the head guy has celebrated October 7th and say they have sourced this in a fair way. How do you feel about that? I feel like it is so unfair that for the past three years I have been trying to tell the world what happened to us. And I've been questioned about it again and again. And I've been asked to provide proof again and again. And I've been asked to show footage.

26:37And I was not believed hundreds of times just for the fact that I am on a certain side of this conflict. And then seeing something like this so easily blow up and become just facts, although they are definitely not facts if they haven't been a fact checked. It hurts on a level that I can't explain it opens the trauma in a way having to explain ourselves all the time again and again and again and again. And I can say this about myself, but I can also say that I have dozens of fellow survivors that have made this their life mission and go around the world and speak about what happened that day, including some of the return hostages. Why are we put on the spot every single time asked to show facts, asked to show proof. And then something like this comes out and so easily believed and also by such a huge media outlet that allows themselves to just go out and say things like this without any actual proof.

27:39We've seen your actual footage from being there that morning at Nova. One of the claims is that hey, look, there are two sides about what happened at Nova. I don't see two sides. I'm sorry. Now I've been there. I was after the fact. And what you describe as there being nowhere to run, nowhere to hide, I've stood where the stage was. I've walked where the crowd was. I've been on the roads around and seen the vehicles that were full of bullet holes and still left abandoned on the side of the road. I've seen the video footage from the Palestinians that are proud to show it. I mean, they've got their own GoPro footage that they celebrate. And I've seen footage that most of the world hasn't seen. There's no question that hundreds of unarmed civilians were hunted down or taken hostage.

28:42How do you feel when people have video footage taken by the perpetrators and still say, oh, there's two sides to this? I've heard, I've heard you say that you can find critical thinking in certain places if you had a map and a flashlight. That is exactly how I feel. Sometimes I look around to these people that question the facts. And I say, why can't you think for yourself? Because they saw this random reel on Instagram or TikTok that said that this didn't happen, that we are making it up, that it is AI or deep fake or anything like that. And they blindly believe it because it fits some kind of agenda of standing up for the underdog. I think people need to stop picking sides and actually asking themselves, what is the human side of things? People keep saying the Palestinian people are oppressed, we are the oppressors. Stop. We are all humans. There is suffering on both sides.

29:51Why is it justified to kill Israelis at a music festival? Why is the world okay with that because it fits some kind of agenda of protecting the underdog? It has become in to hate the Jews. It has become trendy to upload Instagram Reels saying that the Jews did this, the Israelis did this. It is inhumane to call what Hamas did that morning, justified in any way. It is inhumane to justify acts of violence so cruel, so disgusting, and so completely disconnected from what is an actual human being that it pains me on a personal level that I need to three years later continue speaking about this in the way that I do. One of the things that frustrates me the most is those that say, well look at the death toll. The number of people killed on that day, which by the way was the worst day since the Holocaust in terms of death toll for Israelis, and then look at the death toll in Gaza.

31:04Well, when I say there is an absence of critical thinking, look Hamas came across that fence and did what they did and then retreated to Gaza into civilian areas, hospitals, schools, those areas knowing full well what was going to happen in terms of retaliation. And they didn't care about that. They were willing to sacrifice all of these lives after they did what they did. They're the ones that brought that fire down on to Gaza. They knew what was going to happen and they did it full well knowing that. So I just can't believe that people can't critically think about the fact that Hamas set this up to create that death toll to swing PR in their favor. You can't go do what they did and then go run and hide in civilian areas so you can rack up a death toll and say, look see how terrible they are.

32:10I just don't understand how people can't think their way through this. I criticize this New York Times piece and we ask them for a response and they gave one quote, Nick built upon a growing body of evidence regarding the mistreatment of detainees in Israel. Now that was from Kathleen Kingsbury, the opinion editor at the New York Times and they make a point out of the fact that this was an opinion piece, not a news piece. But yet then they say they stand by every word of it. And then on the timing of the Civil Commission report, the quote that they gave is the Times never passed on the Civil Commission report and wasn't told about its completion or the timing of its release. Once the report was made public, we covered its findings. Now that was from a New York Times spokesperson. Now let's talk about this Civil Commission report.

33:11It was entitled Silence No More. So by the numbers, this was a report that was 290 pages. It had 10,000 plus photos and video segments, 1,800 hours of footage, 430 plus testimonies. And there were 52 victim nationalities because there were people from all over the world impacted by this. It took two years to put this together and personally I find it hard to believe that the New York Times didn't know that this was ongoing, didn't know that it was coming out and didn't wait and take it into consideration in the New York Times. It was a very serious situation in writing this piece. But it falls into line with the rise of anti-Semitism in the United States. You say you have to continue to defend this.

34:16Let me tell you in the United States, there have been 1,938 anti-Jewish hate crimes in 2024. The highest ever recorded by the FBI. And we fully believe that this is way under reported. I think probably the majority of people targeted don't report it. Just because they're afraid of what will happen if they do. There have been 9,354 anti-Semitic incidences reported by the ADL in 2024. There is an 893 percent increase over the past 10 years. There have been 25 plus anti-Jewish incidences per day in 2024. I'm talking about 2024 because it's the last year that we have full data. And so in the US, Jews are 2 percent of the population and they account for 16 percent of all of the hate crimes. So that's what we're up against.

35:23And it's so outsized compared to the population. And over half of American Jews report experiencing anti-Semitism in 2025. The number of incidences are down just a little bit. But as I say, I think it's hugely under report. I think people are saying, what's the point? I'm sure the incidents are down. I've spent quite a lot of my time in the US in the past year or so. And I can say with full confidence that the Jews are terrified. Most of the Jews that I have met will say that they will go on an Uber and not say and change their names so that it doesn't sound like a Jewish name. Think about the terrible, terrible thought that only Jewish schools need to have high security and armed security around them. But doesn't that sound crazy to you that people that go to a synagogue to a place where they pray need to have armed guards outside of that place to be able to just pray.

36:33It's, aren't we all don't we all need to ask ourselves why we feel the need to be so violent towards a group of people. There's one thing that I continue coming back to. All these people that talk of how they want to hurt the Jews because they believe that the Jews are hurting humanity in some way. These people that call themselves humanitarian people that call themselves people who want good in the world. When you advocate for violence on any side, you are not advocating for peace. If you advocate for violence, I'll say this again, if you are advocating for violence on any side, you are not advocating for peace. So saying I am a peaceful person and I would like there to be peace in the world, but let's be violent towards the Jews because that fits my agenda. You are not a peaceful person. You are not on the side of humanity. You are on the side of violence.

37:35And people continue doing that. The rise of anti-Semitism is terrifying. I think a level of evil has been breached on October 7th and the fact that people will allow themselves to justify it, just makes it that much worse. Because if we justify that violence on any level and towards any side and in any country in this world, we have lost our humanity and we need to take 20 steps back and ask ourselves how we fix it. You have an organization, the light we hold. Why did you start that? I started the light we hold because I found it baffling that people expect us to be angry or want revenge and then every time they hear me speak, I talk about peace, love and light. I wanted to be the person who saw what the worst of humanity looks like and I saw the worst of humanity and say I am not going to go down that hole and I am not going to allow myself to hate so much.

38:36And I have made it my life mission to educate, to make sure that people understand the facts, to educate people for actual acceptance and love of other humans. I think that there's this misunderstanding about trauma. I think in general that people think that when you go through a traumatic event like this that has been inflicted on you by other people, you have to become this angry person that wants revenge. I will not allow myself to be that person. I started the light we hold because I want to have conversations. I want to speak to the people that you just said we need to sit them down and ask them why they hate so much. I want to be the one to do that. I want to go to universities and colleges where people have different ideas and different lookouts on the world than I do and have this conversation with them. Ask them why they hate so deeply people that they don't know. Ask them, can you point to Israel on a map and tell me where it is because you see how tiny it is compared to the people around it that want to destroy it.

39:42You'll maybe understand that we are not necessarily the bad guys. But more than that, I would like to educate the world about how deeply we are taught from a very, very young age to fear what is different than us. I have been treated and untreated that fear will turn into hate and in extreme cases that hate turns into violence. I have since socks over seven studied misinformation and why it spreads and I've also started to study the psychology of why people fear everything that is different than them. I want to talk about what is different than us should be feared and stepped away from. I want to have conversations about why the differences between us are the beautiful things about us. I want to be able to speak to as many people in the world and say I looked into the eyes of evil and I choose every single day to spread more light and more love and make sure that that is what is spread.

40:44I want to talk about how many people are so much hate in this world. A lot of the media is fueled by hate. We are asked to be angry all the time. The necessary actions that we have to take to think critically to stop and ask questions to talk to people who are different than us to connect to people who have different ideas and different outlooks and make people have conversations instead of listening blindly to an Instagram reel by someone who says something that has no proof and has no facts behind it. I hope people hear what you just said. We are out of time today but I hope we can talk again because there is so much to be said and you take such a measured approach to it. I hope people listen and say this is who I hate. This is who is a threat to my safety in this world. I just don't think people can talk to you and come away and say okay this is who I need to eradicate from the world.

41:59I just like people to remember that in the end we are all human and that I might have this title of Jew or Israeli but in the end I am a music clover that goes to music festivals and it just loves people. I think that if people try to look over their agenda and see the people they will understand that we should just hate a little bit less as much as we can. Well said. Well said. Noah thank you for being here and thank you for refusing to stay quiet. What you live through nobody should have to prove that up but you keep telling the truth anyway and that so matters. Let's agree that we'll have this conversation again and I look forward to meeting you in person. I look forward to that. Thank you so much for having me. God bless you. We'll talk soon. Thanks so much. And don't forget you can watch all new episodes of Dr. Phil on OnVoyTV and OnVoyFast. Just go to OnVoyTV.com for more information.