Ohio State at Texas Game Prediction

0:00Football is back and this is believed. Your home for NFL and college football news and analysis all season long. Now let's start the show. The final segment here in the Irish Breakdown podcast brought you by our friends over at the game. The game of the week. The game that everybody is really waiting to watch and talk about. Absolutely crazy job by the internet there. I just transitioned us over to talk about Ohio State Texas. But I know that you have not given your Oklahoma Michigan prediction yet. I'm afraid to start talking because every time I start talking the internet goes out.

1:00I had Michigan I have vocal home winning 24 or 14. I think Michigan's defense will keep it competitive and I just think Michigan won't be able to score much. I think and actually I have Michigan scoring last. I said I said I said I said I bet it's around 10. 10 to 13. So we were on part of there. The you know just to open up Ohio State Texas though I we have a piece of sporting news and this is one of those games that why I called it the main event travel is I I broke down 25 guys that could get picked in 27 that will be on the field 25. And that's not even counting the 28s and the 29s and the you know the Chris Henry juniors. Now some of these guys might not get drafted you know like a Peyton Pierce you don't know. But the insane amount of NFL talent on the field makes it impossible. I'm trying to think the last time I was covering a game where and Simmons is a stretch but there are three guys that could potentially be picked number one.

2:04And Jeremiah Smith is probably a stretch and Arch might be a stretch but they've all at least been in the conversation. There's potential number one pick so I can't wait it's going to be a fun game. It's going to be really fun it gives like LSU Alabama 2019 vibes with the amount of NFL talent that's going to be on the field you watch that game 7 30 PM kickoff on ABC. Right now a fan tool I'm sure along with a lot of us view this as a pick him game Texas is favored right now by one and a half points but they're also the home team getting that three point bump so. A true pick him game over under for this one is set at 49 and a half so very interesting match up to dive into here Brian. Yeah that's the part that's going to be interesting is what carries the day in this game you know last year. It was defenses and it were played well but it was also the offenses didn't play well it wasn't just that the defense is played well I thought the offense is also both struggled. I think both of these teams will be further along in that regard and I think both of these teams have a little bit more question marks on the defensive side of the ball early in the season.

3:05Like this is one of those games guys that we look back and say this could be a season like a season defining game not just for these teams but for college football you know you look back at those games where. Boy these are two of the best teams in the country and this teams path to the playoff got was such because you look back and they they had this loss or this win and. And I think for both of these teams I think this is a tremendous opportunity to go out there and win a game that. That I don't want to say makes you a lock for the playoffs. But you'd have to actually fall apart not to make the playoffs because. You know the build thing Trevon I talked about yesterday with the schedules that these two teams have especially Texas they could go nine and three and if you have a win in this game you've got a great argument to be in the playoff much more so than Texas is BS argument last year. Like you you could have a world where you know Texas issue goes nine and three they beat Ohio State and yet still lose to you know let's see Oklahoma in Dallas they lose at LSU and at Texas A&M and they'd still have wins over Ohio State at Tennessee Ole Miss Florida and at Missouri.

4:17That's a very strong resume in my opinion and so I think this is a game where the winner gets a little bit of a wider margin for error the rest of the way and the loser it's the opposite because both of their schedules are so tough. Now you're in your kind of your backs are against the wall you got to really bring it so I think there's a lot more stake in this game. I think there's a lot of just assumptions that both of these teams will be playoff teams and we have both of them Trev in the playoff bill I believe you had both of them in the playoffs as well but it's going to be a battle for the loser of this game because their schedules moving forward are very challenging. And the loser might have to play let's so let's look at it from the Ohio State side I think from a you lose go nine and three standpoint look at their schedule man. Everybody we've looked at it all off season they've got they've still got to go to USC that's not a give me it's not for them it's not going to be they've got to go to Indiana they've got a strong home schedule they've got to play Oregon Michigan who know I'll never say never after two years ago like I mean you just can't who knows what winning him will have then Iowa they go to Iowa Iowa was better you know like Kinnick they haven't played a Kinnick in the last time they play in the game.

5:34I think in the last time they played a Kinnick ask Ohio State fans how that one went not well a lot of tight ends was at 17 is that the last time they've been the Kinnick wow been there and that was a disaster hour game for them so. JT Bert still wakes up screaming and cold sweats from watching it was thinking of that game very really do you watch Ohio State is totally get their butts kicked that out of nowhere that one in the Purdue one obviously. So from that standpoint then they have to start playing the nine and three argument that Texas tried last year we don't have to get into that I already did it for like a half hour yesterday disagree with I was the other side of the Sork argument but hey you know what if you want to end it on your side you just ahead then don't schedule the game. That's other side of what argument like I am on the other side of like I thought Sork had valid points last year at nine and three and I don't want to go to for that because you know I just agreed with him like I was like yeah why do we play this game let's go play Minnesota and go ten and two and I'll put us in but maybe but you still lost to a four 18 and got annihilated by the other playoff team that you play I'm saying I I then I would have just targeted Oklahoma.

6:47I said hey we be Oklahoma we're ten and two but that one we don't have time to get into here's a quick thought don't lose to float for eight Florida that's why they're not in this whole will we don't play Ohio State you don't first of all you don't know that you're going to win that game number one you could get upset by something if you can lose to for eight Florida you could lose to Minnesota. The way that they're off and split don't lose to for eight Florida that that's why say Sark is is soft that's why his teams are soft that's why they get beat by every team that they play that's physical because of that stuff right there instead of saying hey we didn't handle our business. We went down we went we played Florida and gainsville and got a game we never led a four 18 you want to be in the playoff don't lose by three and a half touchdowns to a playoff team in November. Well I'm saying but yeah like yet we are going down this road I would just say okay I'm not scheduled game anymore why would I play which is why he won't ever win a title right that's a soft mentality just like could you imagine Ryan Day saying that if they lose this game I don't I don't think he would he's going to beat but he's going to have but again Ohio State will have to play that argument let's say they go nine and three and I played out let's say they lose it Indiana.

8:00And they lose at USC which is possible nobody thinks that's possible I think it's possible that's a I just Notre Dame doesn't count in that big 10 teams go ask they struggle yeah Notre Dame doesn't do that they go out what's because Notre Dame's been doing that every year for a long time right right you know but if they go nine and three and lose to Indiana USC Texas all road games and they get left out for like a 10 and two Oklahoma who went up to Michigan and one they're going to be pissed or you know like they're going to be pissed and that's going to be that's my point so I think that's a different argument then if they lost to then maybe they lose to Illinois along the way who goes for eight yeah yeah I'll say the same thing then don't lose that for a football team that that's my whole point it's it's it's a soft minds imagine it's the same thing as if the number one defensive tackle on the depth chart who's getting pushed by another kid went to

9:01sarcasta they coach I think you need to cut the two kids behind me because it's going to be easier for me to get on the field if you cut those kids around me and look man I'm trying to get the NFL the only way I can to help this team win and get the NFL's if you cut the guys around me and just make my path imagine if a player said it's the same exact argument he's making for well let's schedule softer games and make our path to the playoff easier it's the same loser mindset which is why sarke has only in his career I think had what now two ten three ten plus one seasons and over a decade as a head coach at power programs because of that mindset would travel and travel again there's so much more pressure on texas in this spot oh sure oh high state they'll be they get mad when they lose any game ever and but Ryan Day does Evan Attie one interesting stat I thought they are one and four as the dog under under day straight up one and four is an

10:04underdog straight up which they're not the underdog often urban Meyer used to take that underdog card and he would wave it all around Columbus they would have it I mean it might as well been posted up at Chipotle like buckeyes or underdog burritos are free if we win that kind of stuff like there's so much more pressure on sarke in this spot oh and five against Georgian texas who are one and two the last two years everything you said because if they lose this speech is probably coming so I don't disagree with you completely I'm just saying I'm looking at it from that standpoint and and then the soft label come hey you're you're pretty good arch guard around against these teams but when a real Matt Patricia defense comes in there mixes you up a little bit what are you going to do so I do think there's infinitely more pressure on texas so travel I'll let you take it from there man yeah especially because you get him at home you know last year it was week one you're on the road in Columbus arch is going into his first start whereas Ohio State was returning guys like sunny styles and Caleb downs and Jeremiah Smith comes back carnell Tate is stepping into a much bigger role whereas this year

11:11Texas is now hosting Ohio State in the world where it's like yeah Julian saying and Jeremiah Smith or back Bo Jackson's back but outside of that you're down Caleb downs Kate and Curry's gone both of your top first round NFL draft picks at linebacker or gone you have a new offensive coordinator you know like that and so all of those are ingredients where sarke is now they have a team is like hey Trevor Goosebeast back you know they they have what they believe is a revitalized running back room in the portal with relief brown and Hollywood smothers coming in they get cam Coleman Ryan wing goes back and it mostly is back and you know so all of these ingredients including having to have Ohio State travel that you talk about the travel from east out the west it's not a short trip down to Austin Texas from Columbus Ohio either so I'm with you all the pressures on Texas you know which is how I think it should be Plus he added peace to that is we've seen Ryan Day go out and win a title and go on the road and win in some tough environments whereas what for sarke you got to go back to what the last biggest win that they had in the regular season was Bama yeah Bama 23 and not and not a real Bama like a well I guess they did go to the playoff that year but not

12:15I got beat by Michigan they weren't they weren't they weren't they weren't they weren't 20 they weren't exactly exactly I for me when I look at this for first for for Ohio State when I talk about what's the state for how state to me it's I agree with Bill I don't think this is a must win game for how state I think their path moving forward is is very hard but I think Texas is even more difficult because I think a lot of people have kind of already baked this loss into a potential how state playoff run and we haven't seen Ohio State struggle with the better teams in their league the way that we have seen Texas struggle with the better teams in their league in my opinion and so I think for Ohio State it's like hey go on the road and be competitive make this a four quarter game and then handle your business in the regular season and if you're 10 and two you're in the conference championship game and you're in the playoff I think that's really where it is this is got to be game where you you are It's a four quarter battle the only way Ohio State could be in trouble Where now their season is like okay is if they just get smoked by Texas

13:19I think that's the thing that could maybe be like that you know I don't over react to one game but Like Bill you said Ohio State's lost plenty over the years it lost game here They haven't played in the big 10 championship games since what was it 22 20 21 20 20 20 20 Against Northwestern right so it's like you know But when they lose they don't lose Yeah, oh yeah, right they haven't won it since 2020 yeah Yes, that yes, yes, yes, and we have Buckeye fans in our inner show, yes, we met one the big 10 championship is what we meant to say so I was gonna say here a couple things within the game Jeremiah Smith seven catches for 46 yards and two games against Texas they have something Whether it's like how they shade him coverage wise. They've done a good job on him Highest they asked to run the ball. They didn't run the ball well first game first half last week, right other than that big

14:23But I think Bo Jackson's long run is really that what I was gonna what what I was gonna say for how state is in this matchup Bill and it's it's a great segue to what I'm gonna say is what we need to find out about Ohio State and whether or not They're gonna go on to run is do they have anything other than Jeremiah Smith in the past game They do that McTeewen, but that's what we're gonna find out right like yeah, he did well at you You know you TSA he did well in the opener But this is kind of that level of are you good enough that and he'll do it well against Purdue or whoever but This is the kind of game worth you're gonna win this game down at Austin It's it's got to be somebody other than Jeremiah Smith That steps up and helps you out or makes those kind of place because that's kind of what happened when they in the playoff two years ago Is yeah, you should held him to one catch for four yards, but Trevon Henderson catches a screen for 70 yards Cardinal Tate made some big plays and Mecha makes some big plays your defense stepped up and that's I think the big question about this Ohio State team is There is no a Mecha there is no You know you had Jackson Smith and Jigba Mecha and Buka and

15:27Marvin Harrison Jr. You had always had that second or third Dude right and Devon again, maybe he's that McGuin maybe he's that guy But he's got to prove that is Brandon in is gonna be better can Chris Henry be the next great freshman receiver to hot Those are all questions somebody's gonna have to step up and take some of that pressure off Jeremiah Smith because to your point They have done that now my question is gonna be does Will much champ continue the same philosophy as What Pete Kaucki did because it's a defense different defensive coordinator now Well, we have the same mindset so that's something I'm gonna be looking forward to seeing but to your guys's point though I think this is there's a series that I've I watch It's it's called the chosen right and there's a scene in there where the guy that you know the character playing Jesus Talking to his mom and then one time she says it in another time he says it but says if not now when And when you look at sarcast like dude you're in your five now right?

16:27You've spent all this money on your roster you've done this you've done that you've had all these big-time recruits If you can't beat a team that plays big boy football now When's it gonna happen? Have you are you better? Are you just the same old Texas? We're gonna outtown a people but when in anytime we play someone that punches us in the mouth We're not gonna punch back and I think that's what's at stake for Texas in this game I I think this is the biggest game that Texas is played in a non-playoff situation in a very long time Very long time because if they can't win this game you have to start asking yourself Is he really the guy that can take us over the hump? Yeah, and now it's like if you now if you don't win a title this year Yeah, those calls get like and I'm not saying they're gonna fire him You don't fire coach, but it's like you start to get some of those doubters and now maybe some of those money people aren't as willing to Give you as much money because well you're not gonna do anything with them We gave you the biggest roster the most expensive roster coach football last year and you still couldn't beat Ohio State

17:27In Georgia. Yeah, but absolutely and then you get yourself in college football purgatory You're now Penn State in the big 10 where it's like you have very talented rosters You're gonna go 10 into every year, but you can't get that one But then the argument on Penn State side was like well, okay, so let's play out the scenario Let's say we fire Steve Sarkeesian who we gonna go get And you get yourself in this weird college just about anybody you want Also fair, but that's that's what puts us in such a weird bind for them But yeah, I think all three of us in agreement that this is this is pretty much a must win scenario for Texas If they're going to squash some of those narratives, whereas if Ohio State goes down and loses They could run the table in the big 10 which I think they have a strong possibility to do and be in the playoffs and be fine I'm gonna say this about Ohio State and we'll get to our predictions I think the other thing that adds to the pressure for Texas is There it's been very rare in the past that Ohio State didn't have the most talented team on the field even in games they lost

18:29Where they didn't have the most talented place or at the very least maybe the most talented player you could argue that in 2022 and they lost to Georgia Georgia had more top to bottom talent But you could argue to two best guys in the field that day were both for Ohio State sure and until Marvin Harrison Jr got her I mean you could argue on that day CJ Stroud and Marvin Harrison Jr were the two best players in the field that day I don't know that that's the case for us and now Jeremy they could have the I think they have the best play on the field But I think there's a to me a clear talent advantage for for Texas in this game which was not true two years ago Uh, and was not necessarily true last year in my opinion So if I think that factors in this well that which which adds a little bit of the pressure to this I don't think this is As as talented of on the Ohio State team when you combine The experience because some of Ohio State's most gifted players are still very inexperienced whereas Texas's best players are all older guys and that's why I'm referring to talent. I'm combining

19:32The the experience that comes with that right? I mean most players are better as juniors than they were as freshmen and that kind of thing where Yes, Ohio State has another elite receiver, but he's playing a second college football game Where Ohio where Texas has got elite receivers that are juniors and seniors And and that's a that's a difference for me Ohio State's best running back is a sophomore their second best running back You know's and think it's sophomore They're most talented receiver is a junior, but they're next most physically talented receivers a true freshman that that that's what I'm referring to there I think that only adds to the pressure for Texas and my sure Well, we better I as you know, I got to go to 15 so I don't want to be rude, but um, you know You want to get you want to get these predictions going? Yeah, let's kick it off with you Bill Yeah, I just want to hear your guys is I want to make sure I hear him uh, I got what do I have 27 24 Ohio State? Yeah 27 24 Ohio State um late fjl um Probably in the final minutes. I think it'll score a little bit more back and forth

20:34Arch You know he'll play better than he did last year 170 yards touchdown interception um He would remember he was Bryce underwood after week one last year He was Bryce underwood they they they did Detailed throw-by-throw videos of him and it worked out especially Turned when he played Oklahoma, so I think he'll play better, but I just trust Patrisha's defense a little more I think saying makes a couple plays to your point brine Highest day has the best player on the field Texas probably has two through five Yeah, arguable. Yeah, yeah arch column sevens Uh Cam Coleman Trevor Gooseby, but I think Ohio State has that depth from like you go read that piece We wrote like 10 through 25 is a lot of Ohio State guys the Peyton Pierce is the Meq and Brandon in us that's a guy that I think could have a good game here I'll go Ohio State 27 24 and the rare rare underdog role and um You'll probably be validated when Sark this won't hurt us for the playoff, you know we

21:38We we made that we scheduled this game on purpose and all that and you may hear that afterward, but it's hard. I'll I you said if not now when I'll say I believe it when I see it, but I've seen all I have a state win in these environments and they'll do it again What say you Trev? I actually have I believe the same score that bill does just flipped I have Texas winning 27 24 I think this game is going to be exceptionally close and I know we have resident Ohio State fans in the chat Let me add this little nugget you should be thrilled that I picked Texas to win because I'm over betting against Ohio State So you're welcome for that same Every time I pick a hot set to lose they win. So yes, so so buck I fan should be thrilled with this pick coming for me But in all seriousness The concerns that I have about this team is what you highlighted Brian in the previous games bill you mentioned it Jeremiah Smith has seven catches for 46 yards I have to imagine I know it's a new defensive coordinator will must-shamp would be doing that entire roster of disservice

22:42if he was like yeah I just don't think we're gonna make him a priority Look if you lose this game to Ohio State because Brandon McEwen has seven catches for a buck 13 and two touchdowns And maybe Ohio State is just a better team if you lose this game because a true freshman Chris Henry junior has six for a buck 10 and a touchdown You'll lose that game you lose this game because Jeremiah Smith has eight catches for 140 yards and two touchdowns That's on you. That's on the coaching staff I just can't imagine somebody with that level of experience just in the college football world Would be that naive and then you start talking about the conversation what's behind it? I think Brandon McEwen's a good player. I think Brandon and this is a good player Brian you and I earlier this office And talked about how we believed he was misused last year But even use correctly. I don't think either of those guys are carnaltate or a mecha booga or Jackson Smith and jigba I don't think that's a slight to them those are just three of the better wide receivers that have come through Columbus in the 2020s Yeah, so I think that's the difference maker Well, Ohio State has to show me a little bit on the ground

23:43Maybe they do I don't want to take in too much and read too much into the tea leaves about what they did in the first half against ball state But if they're not able to establish a ground game It's gonna be interesting. I think both quarterbacks are gonna make plays in this one But fandall views it as a pick-em-game Vegas views as a pick-em-game I think Texas gets the slight edge in this one. They win by three I think the ability to run the footballs a question mark for both of these teams still Oh sure Texas didn't run the ball that great against Yeah, Texas state you and I think Texas states probably a little bit of a better program than ball state is They've you know, she under GJ Kenny. They've done some nice things But treb I see the game similarly to you I actually see it a little bit even more lower scoring. I have Ohio State uh or Texas went in this game 24-21 I just have more questions about Ohio State when I look at the roster Look when you just talk about big picture about these teams Texas has way more to prove to me At from a program standpoint But if I just try to take out the pass and just look at this matchup. I still have question mark I still have more question marks about Ohio states running the ball in Ohio State fan

24:46You can throw in the stats about the game from ball state But we all watched the game okay You getting some big runs at the end of the game with your backups and one long run from bow jacks And does not mean your running game was necessarily way better You have to be willing to be objective about your football team and say hey look They've got to prove that they can run the ball in against a better team And against starters and it's the same thing for like Indiana against nor texas And it's the same thing for Texas against Ohio State because I don't think they ran the ball very well at all Against texas state last week. So I think both teams have to have a lot to prove both offensive lines Are still kind of coming together. There's some guys that have moved around. You've got some new starters especially Texas But when I look at it Texas had three receivers make plays last week I if you're gonna say okay, who's the who's got if we say okay the the nut Let's say they take the number ones out of the game Jeremiah Smith and Cam Coleman They neutralize each other either a they both get taken out by the game plan or b They both go off Who has the better complimentary weapons right now? I have I know more about Ryan Wingo and more about Emmett mostly junior than I do about

25:54Ohio State's complimentary weapons and You know, so that's kind of where I'm where I look at it in this regard is that those they have to prove those things to me And I think that Texas if Texas can't run the ball on Ohio State Which I think they're gonna struggle to do I have more faith that they're gonna be able to make more plays in the passing game Then right now I do with the Ohio State And that's really what it comes down to and I think right now Texas is a little bit at further ahead of Ohio State Defensively as well because Ohio State is still fitting in a lot of new pieces and so When it's a tight game the knowns plus the home team or why I went with this pick but guys it's we have we have a Texas winning by three points We will not be shocked if Ohio State wins this football game just like bills not gonna be shocked if Texas wins this football game This is a pick-em game and then usually in pick-em games I go to home team If this game was in Columbus or on a neutral field I'd probably take Ohio State Especially if it was a home game if it was in Columbus But I think the home crowd gives me advantage. I think Texas's defense is able to

26:54to kind of Make a few more stops in the throwing game then what I think Ohio State's defense is gonna do against Texas And that's where I have the long horns winning this game. I'll be honest with you though I'd want to be wrong on this pick Steve Sarkiesian is kind of in my my my I Xtrev you I used to be a big Sark fan you remember this I used to be a very pro Steve Sarkiesian guy But over the last year his constant crybaby I'm soft woe is me uh just Just winding it's just like oh how hot it was or how tired his team was in the playoffs I'm like oh Ohio State had to play in the Rose Bowl and they played you I believe Wasn't that game like didn't what that game was in Atlanta correct But didn't didn't Texas play their second round playoff game and freaking Dallas Didn't Arizona State game be it played in freaking Texas that was peach bowl

27:57Arizona State game is a peach bowl. That was the peach bowl. Where was the where was the the Ohio State Texas game That was in fricking Texas that okay, that's what it was one of their playoff games is in Texas You're gonna cry about about being tired. It's just this constant Just it's soft and I can't stand that that that's not what great teams are supposed to be That's not what a head coach of Texas is supposed to be about this excuse making That we hear from him and so I've very much soured on him I think he's kind of like everything that's wrong with the modern generation. Let's let's make our paths easier Let's make the road easier. I just can't stand that kind of stuff So I'm actually rooting for how state but I have to take my emotion out of it Look at the film look at the stat sheets and say I just think Texas has a slight advantage But I think the one thing we all agree on boys before Bill runs I think this is gonna be a heck of a football game. Yeah, I'm looking forward to it. I know I got to run You know, this was a good show. I'm sorry. Yeah, we have to you know how it is at Other obligations, but we'll get back to it

28:58I'll have I really thought it was just fun show like I would encourage your listeners to Check out those top 25 prospects and I'll have a piece on Bryce tomorrow So we'll have it all covered and you know next week hopefully I can stay a little longer Sounds good Bill. All right. See you guys I'll spawn yeah, it was it was I think it's gonna be a fun weekend of games. I really do I really do but before we get out of here. We do have a couple of super chats We'll bring up here trev before we get out of here. I didn't I just call you Bill I'm not sure. Okay. I think I might have just called you Bill my bad man getting old. Hey It's okay. It's all good. I want to I just wanted you to be three. No, that's all trev. I wanted you to be three. No I meant to bring some up about that. I tried to send you and actually revised Hicks list from last week. Just never went through. Yeah, I tried to send it Monday morning, but um I tried to send it before kickoff. It just never went through. Yeah, right exactly Super Jeff from Tyler Evans. Appreciate you man. Boston College and Rutgers playing for BK sweepstakes

30:01I would be shocked if Brian Kelly took the Rutgers job I don't know about the Boston College job. I find that one fast name does like he really want to go back home Does he really want to go to a program that I don't think brunt. I don't think that's the kind of job Brian Kelly takes. I'd be shocked by that I think Brian Kelly in his mind thinks he's gonna be like a You know, it at a higher level program But I if he's gonna take a job like that, it would be BC. I don't see Brian Kelly moving to pescat away I just don't see that. I don't see pocky He's like, uh, no, bro You made me live in South Bend in the end of her decade. I ain't moving to pescat away New Jersey Packs You know, but yeah, I would and I would have her back on that one by the way But uh, yeah, it's gonna be interesting And I think both of those teams would be silly to go after coach like Brian Kelly and and let's take my personal things on Brian Kelly aside for a second. I think and you need a I think you need to go the route of a lot of these teams have gone with that that really good proven young FCS coach that that Bob Chesney type of guy that that John some raw that Alex golesch kind of guy that young fiery

31:09Type of guy that's really grown up in the portal era a little bit as a head coach I think that's the route you need to go. I don't know that Brian Kelly would be The route I would go into place like BC or Rutgers I think I think I would go after Brian Kelly If I was at a more established school and they say I just in disguise it can kind of write the ship a little bit and get us going Yeah, kind of like the role that Kyle Woodingham is playing right now for mission right that's he yes That's where he would be best suited. I'm with you completely. I'm in look And Brian Kelly is going to wind and complain about the things that he did not have at Notre Dame going to a school like Boston college Now I haven't toured their facilities But I wasn't their press box and if their press box was any preview of what the football facilities look like Brian Kelly would be very unhappy with the Laida Bosco. Yeah Yeah, there's just I just don't know that An older coach would make a lot of sense at those schools I think you'd want to go with more of that younger and there's some really good FCS and Smaller-level coaches at that in the Northeast some really I mean Bob Chesney was in the Northeast for a while

32:10You know to mean so I'd rather go a direction like that and and this is not even a shot at Brian Kelly The same thing is true if like a Jim Bolfisher wanted to get back into coaching or You know some people like that, but it's more about just I think those schools need a a Different type of younger fiery type of coach that that's my thing But man that's gonna be an ugly game watch It's gonna be the most entertaining game of the weekend watch because we keep talking about how bad it is It's gonna be like a 45 to 42 shoot out where it's exciting and back and then well that's that's kind of oh Yeah, I'll hire state Texas is gonna be like 10 six right just just this news fast. Yeah man Super chat from Michael S appreciate your response to Notre Dame fans gripping in the words of Notre Dame's former winning his coach We won we won what more do you want you're just spoiled? Well, look I think there's I Would never say that I would never say we won what more do you want you're just spoiled? I think that's silly because we always talk process over results

33:12So I think people saying that are wrong just like I think people who are dramatically over reacting to one game and acting like you know All is lost and oh wow this Notre Dame team is in trouble at running back and receiver and tied in because of one game I'm like maybe they are maybe maybe those people that are Losing their minds right now end up being correct and that it is a problem that keeps them from winning a title But my response is you have no clue if that's the case after one game none And and that's more of my pushback you'll never hear me say hey guys they won the game That's all that matters unless we're talking about like the Miami game the nati game like those ones are all that matters is winning But in this time season it is about the process like and that's what we talked about with rice trev it's not just about the final score It could be 63 to seven and I come out of this game a little concerned about some things It could be 63 for you 42 to seven and I come out of this game like yep This is who they are who we thought they are because it's about the process. It's about You know showing certain aspects of your team and and more so than just that you won

34:15So I would I would push back on people saying we won we won what more do you want you're just spoiled I actually kind of like the fact that people aren't necessarily happy like oh we're winning the nati after 28 point win over Wisconsin That to me shows you that Marcus Freeman has raised the bar Because five years ago that's exactly how most nerner fans would have been But my my answers that doesn't mean that the people that are just Hand-ringing and losing their minds over how the game Sunday night went are also correct I think the truth is in the middle that's a very good win This is a team that still has work to do which is okay. That's not a negative We told you before the game it was gonna be a little sloppy early in that Wisconsin is better than people think defensively The game winning about how we thought it was gonna go some of you thought it was gonna be 60 to nothing I understand that and and you're flipping out because it wasn't The game went kind of how I thought it was gonna go and there's things to work on as this true for a lot of teams So I don't have a problem saying like hey no rames got to get better

35:19If they play like this on November 7th, they're gonna lose well, okay, but it's not November 7th. It's September 6th You know if Indiana would have played on November 7th against whoever they played Like they did against old dominion last year. Yeah, they went to one the nati either You know if Ohio State would have played in the postseason like they played against Nebraska in October in 2024 or against Michigan in November guess what they wouldn't have won the nati either So I just think it's a it's a byproduct of that we've been waiting for football so long And we're so anxious for the season start that our reaction to the first game is going was going to be I think maybe stronger than it should have been one way or the other either Unnecessarily panicking or if let's say they would have won like 48 to 6 and just like it was over half time I think the overreaction would have been just as strong on the opposite direction like we're gonna run the table We're gonna beat everybody by 40 and like I think we would have seen an overreaction either way

36:22Because it's been a long time since their names played football We haven't watched them play football since the Saturday after Thanksgiving I just think there's a lot of anxiousness to see this team and that has created a lot and there's a lot of excitement about this team And so when you see them not be perfect and you realize this team is not what you made it in your head Which is you know what you've been doing playing on NCA in the last month Which is where they don't throw in completions. They don't run bad routes. They don't turn the ball over They don't give up touchdowns. They're just gonna win 70 to nothing every week I'm being a little hyperbolic You know then then you're upset the truth is in the middle they got to get better than what they were in the first game But they were better than some of you think that they were And it's part of because I don't I think some of you Maybe don't appreciate how good the Wisconsin defense is It's like I like to point out last year this defense played Oregon Ohio State Indiana And USC no not USC Alabama

37:23And not one of those teams got to 40 points No, they did So I think the truth is in the middle you I think it's always a poor response to say we won We won what more do you want your disposal that's never a good response unless you're talking about like the natty Even if they beat Miami by a point we may come out and say hey look great win. We're excited. We're ecstatic But listen if you're gonna beat Oregon or you're gonna be Ohio State or Texas or whatever You're gonna have to do this a little bit better in the postseason that that's the reality of it And Miami had to get better from when they beat Notre Dame last year in the first game of the season They had to get better than then you know if they wanted to make a run and they did they played better in the postseason They played better against Ole Miss it played better against Ohio State then they did against Notre Dame in the opener Because they got better as a football team So that's where I'm at but you'll never hear me say Trevor like just enjoy the win And don't critique anything. I mean the name of the freaking shows Irish breakdown If we weren't willing to break things down and take a deeper look and not just be fanboys of like every day as long as they win

38:26We're happy then it's like well you need to change your name The only time that I will ever say that is after the national title because I can guarantee you because we are Irish breakdown And we cater a certain demographic which I love The next step is always analysis the only time I will ever say guys just enjoy the win Is if they win the national title because we will get a question of what does this mean for next year And it's like hey y'all let's just enjoy what tonight is and we have an entire offseason To talk about what's next for 2027 that would be the only time but I'm with you completely It's kind of like when you go so long without eating and no matter what you eat people are either going to love it Or it's not going to meet your expectation and so you hate it It's an overreaction on either side and that's how it was with being without college football for a song and it is what it is But like Andrew Gilmore says look I also think there's a potentially better and more explosive offenses this year that that could be creating more angst

39:27You may need to score in the 30s or 40s to win certain football games. Well number one is maybe But but my response that is but what's that based on? What they did in the opener against Texas state and north Texas and ball state and East Carolina. I mean like what's that Tennessee state? What's that based on because there's only one other top 10 team this past week that played a competent team And that team almost lost Oregon and scored fewer points than what Notre Dame did at home at home so Shocker the two teams have played legitimate opponents Warn as dominant as the teams have played ball state Tennessee state Texas state north Texas You know you tap teams like that I mean Yeah, of course We don't know how dominant those teams are going to be we also don't know how Notre Dame is going to be

40:28Notre Dame maybe Notre Dame gets better. Maybe they don't get better trev maybe the receiver issue is a problem Maybe they don't have the receivers to do that. I think that's kind of Balkers to think about because we watched this team with a inferior receiving court to the current one make a run to the natty in 2024 and what do I wouldn't mean in fear yeah Well the top two players on that receiving core are still on this team And they've added other players like that's why I say it's a that was an inferior receiving court to this one So I just think a lot of it's an a dramatic overreaction to to one week But now Notre Dame's got to go out there and improve them those two people right or prove those people wrong But I don't think it's ever I don't I don't ever want to see Notre Dame fans as a group just saying hey We won that's all that matters That's the crap they did in the Bryan Kelly era and I hated it then and I hate it now But I also think we can then overreact in our criticisms And I think we're also getting a little bit of that from the opener too Those criticism may turn out to be right But it's like you can't know that definitively after one game Because I guys now point out Indiana played old dominion last year

41:31Same quarterback Notre Dame this face But he had old dominion players around him a team that gave up over 60 points to James Madison last year Give up or 40 points in two other games held Indiana to 27 Right for an adamant does it didn't get to 200 yards passing They gave up 170 was 179 rushing yards to Colton Joseph who had three against Notre Dame Elijah Sirada three catches for 44 yards Omar Cooper had two catches for 52 yards Which means they had about the same production as as Jordan phase on by himself And Charlie Becker had one catch for four yards. So the big three Last year for Indiana had basically the same game that Jordan phase on had And they did that and it's old dominion And the next week they were only up 21 six on Kennesall state What happened the rest of the way Trev they're pretty decent that year Right my point is is that Let's not over react to one game Let's see how this let's get let's let this team at least play through September before we're like. Yep. Yeah, there it goes

42:36You know, it doesn't mean be crit don't be critical But let's not say this is how this team is going to be The rest of the year. I just think that's a That's a bit of a dramatic over reaction in my opinion that that that's all I'm that's all I'm gonna say about that I just think we need to We need to pump the brakes a little bit You know Read Well folks, that's going to do it for us here this afternoon on the Irish breakdown podcast guys go live this evening on IB Nation Sports week 505 p.m. Not going to want to miss the evening show tomorrow Mariah and I are going to be back at noon 12 p.m. Eastern time for the Friday for you for all mailbag So get your questions ready come prepared because that's all we're doing tomorrow in preparation for Notre Dame kicking off their home slate against the rice owl Saturday 3 30 p.m. On your way out of this show be sure to hit that like hit that subscribe hit that notification bell Be sure to share this podcast with your friends family anybody that you know loves Notre Dame and college football as much as you do But it's always best way to support what we do here in the best way to stay in tune now that it's the Prime time and college football season is subscribed to the premium message boards at boards. Irish breakdown

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