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On this episode of 'Numbers On The Board' - Kenny, Pierre, Mike and Darrick break down the ONE main lesson they've learned so far about each Western Conference Team this season. Plus they break down the return of Jayson Tatum!
0:00 - Intro
04:43 - Drop The Mike
13:35 - JT RETURNS!
26:14 - The Spurs Comeback Win + Wemby's Emotional Reaction
31:20 - One Thing We Learned About Every Western Conference Team
2:00:00 - Unplugged
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here or coming in on a Sunday. That could be an off day. So if you was about to be your own
show, which version would you rather have since you already here to do it? Or that's tough because
yeah, that's Sunday because what time do you come? That's crazy. Depends on how I feel. Oh, you just,
oh, you pick your time? Yeah, it's my show. Yeah. Come out on the Monday. Yeah, I've been doing
since football stopped. I've been doing about noon. Yeah, it's coming in this early. Yeah, I would
probably, that Tuesday, I might just have to stay the next round. Yeah, I would rather do it that
way. Do you see like, is there many people here? No, it's only me. That's why I used to use the
security guard. Yeah, that's why I told the story where I went into the bathroom once and it was
what do came into the bathroom. I was brushing my teeth and I was like, he must think I live here
because it was a Sunday and it was only two cars out there and it was mine and he is and he could have
been third floor on the opposite side. He on playing that time. One time I came here and the doors
was locked and so I went to like the main doors to see if those were open and I seen the security guard,
he just said, oh, no, he's not going to open that door for you. He just said, man, I'm like, you
not going to even check to see him because he like, if you belong in here, you don't have a car.
Yeah, I came in and watched the Super Bowl and it was empty. I was only president. It was a
little scary angle. I told Christian, we got to do a skit of this big-ass building with just one
person here overnight. I'm rival streaming once and I had ordered some door dash and KB in the
cell with like, bro, do not walk out the room without joking. Yeah. Oh, that's a big man.
Because they know where to get in here, less one of us. And then sometimes I'll be over there
recording and I had a headphones on and I can't hear nothing but I'll be swearing that I'm seeing
something over my shoulder over there and I got to keep taking the headphones off like because we
don't have, we don't have the time while I was recording teed up right here and people from the
building walked in. Yeah. And I'm like, am I tweaking or somebody in this room and I'm just
seeing, I'm like, hey, what y'all doing? What was they doing? John, give a letter. It's crazy
that people in this building just walking to people. But you know, it's crazy. The last studio,
remember people would try to walk into that? Oh, yeah. I remember the T-Mobile. What was the T-Mobile?
I don't know what she was doing. But like, people were walking to grooms. They do that on the building
to walk in there a couple of times. Yeah. He did walking there. He was looking for that
right. I didn't know him. Shout out to Dave. But Dave ain't really had no sense.
He had to be like 87. Remember one time we was talking? He was like, yeah, my wife is there.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That was like yesterday. It was that friend. Yeah. It was like Dave, bro.
I'm sorry to hear that, but you should have laid out that. Yeah. You just dropped it
down on us in a casual conversation. You walked in. Man, what y'all here doing?
All doing a podcast. It was important though that he told us because she was in charge of like
all the payments and all of that. So he's probably letting us know like you hit me up now because
he could have led with that. Sure. I feel like he talked about the bears at first and then was like,
yeah, my wife died yesterday. And we was all laughing, joking. It was like, whoa, whoa.
Damn. Yeah. But
shout out to him because I still be parking over there. What?
I did park over there. I got the new car. I don't have that. All the sticker. Yeah.
And I still got keys. Oh, you're about to the bathroom. Yep. It's right.
That's good. That's good. That's my boy. We got dropped the mic. Yeah. This is going to seem a
little bit inferior to James Harden. But this is just for like a basketball world type question.
How much would a ring do for him? We already know he's going to be a Hall of Famer,
one of the most accomplished players, one of the best players all the time. I'm just saying
how much is a boost? If somebody like shade one's another back the back of something,
it's going to give him a lot. Somebody like get the average one wins it. It's going to give him a lot.
How much would it get James Harden? A lot. I think it does more personally than like overall
ranking wise. Because it's not like if you have weighed over over Harden, I don't think a championship
is going to change your mind. I think you just want weighed over Harden. You know what I mean?
So I don't think it's going to change too much. I think it's going to be an accomplishment for him
because he's been trying to do it for what's 16 years at this point. Of course. And he's been on
so many different teams and to finally get over the hump is going to mean a lot. But to me, I don't
I think my opinion about James Harden doesn't change because I don't have any super negative things
to say about James. Yeah, I think regardless. I think he's the top four. I think he's going to be
up there with Kobe, Jordan, Wade, and then Harden's right after him. So I think he's still going to
be right there unless some people probably will move him right above weight. Which I completely
understand. I mean, to do average like 37 points of game, man, it was almost giving you some
people already have above him with that. Yeah. Yeah. I think that's fair. That's what I think it
I think it does a lot. I don't think everything has to be in a vacuum of ranking rather
you get above he's never going to be above Kobe and Jordan. And if you won't weigh it or
or Harden, it comes about a personal preference. But it's something about having a career like
his and then re reinventing yourself and evolving to the player that he is now and then winning it.
Because if they win it, that mean he did something significant. Yeah. That means he actually got
over the hump of that playoff choker that they played a role because guys and art era of growing up
at this stage of their career, it would be it's almost kind of like tracing the gravy with the
spurs or Ray Allen. I don't think it's Jason K with the man's kind of Jason K with the man's
is a good one. Ray Allen with the Miami come L.O. and Houston or OK. See. Yeah. He's still highly
featured and would be a difference maker on a team that couldn't previously get that to me is
something that's significant now. It don't have to raise him above nobody. But it's the cherry on
top of an amazing career where this dude was a six man turned MVP turned 35 point per game
score who was taking one of the greatest teams ever assembled to the wire. Then stop being at
score but still maintain all star level play as a full time point guard and then later in his
career helped elevate a young team, a younger team that couldn't get over the hump to win a
championship. That would be like a remarkable career that would have to be a case study because
it's not a typical one. I don't know if you remember who stars won it in a five. Yeah. That's the way
I was kind of looking at it like regardless of how small the puzzle pieces or how big you think
the puzzle pieces it's the final puzzle piece to the full thing and if James Harder gets it done
I've been trying to I've been posing this question I think for the last few years it's like
who would you want to see win a championship and I think James Harden comes up like every time
because he's obviously done so much you want to see him get that cherry on top.
I think what's amazing about him is that he's been such an iron man.
Like the dude who successfully plays a lot of games every year and he's going to
consistently be on the court for his team and this is a dude that sometimes in all season people
be like he look out of shape or like when he wanted to get traded from Houston dude he was
looking big as hell and then he got the Brooklyn and he got right back in shape so it's like
he's a she's been a shapeshifter throughout his career too but he's also managed to stay an iron man
and stay healthy. Never miss a playoffs. Like he's he's always strictest in a lie maybe. Yeah and
this is the I don't know if he said when he was talking about a screw but he started as a six man.
What he just didn't listen to. He was talking about the first time.
Like I didn't hear the six man. Did you see the AI video? The AI video. No.
It was like some AI video or AI Alan Iverson or Artificial Intelligence.
Artificial Intelligence. Artificial Intelligence. Artificial Intelligence.
What was it? What was it called? He teamed up with some company. He invested in some AI
company so he tweeted about it. Oh. He was showing his career through AI photo or videos and stuff.
I remember it was a bit weird. Him winning a championship would be reminiscent of like
you know prime quarterbacks. Who's a prime like Josh Allen is in his prime. Yeah.
And the expectations to win the Super Bowl. Imagine he don't win the Super Bowl and it's like
man see. But then when he's 38 he goes signed with a young really good Matthew Stafford.
Matthew Stafford. Matthew Stafford. I was like who is this? The only thing is Matthew Stafford
Lions teams was never a favorite team to have won. But he was also so damn good. He was good.
But yeah he won one. Oh the same Darnell. He ain't that damn old.
Was he 31? Oh I didn't know. He was never. He was never a Matthew Stafford.
Yeah he wasn't. So but yeah it's like to win a championship to be a difference maker in a
championship. 28. That boy was seeing ghosts. He was. He was a long time ago. That's why I felt
like he was at least 30. But do you remember a few years ago in the off season I did a
Russell Westbrook career ranked video? No that's why I looked at every year Russell Westbrook's
career and ranked like his best season was worse season. That had to be like 2020 when everybody
was bored in the house. I want to do something like that for James Harden too.
Because I think it helped me appreciate Russell Westbrook a lot more to like really go through
every single season. Every I've seen not every game but like every season individually.
Yeah. Talk about the best performances, the storylines. I feel like James is one of those guys
especially like in his last three to four years in Houston. He was doing what he was doing
so consistently that you got bored that he was dropping 30, 10 to 10. Yeah. And I think that if I
go back not probably when it's all said and done in a couple of years go back I'll
re-appreciate that peak that he had. What does that say about the game? Is that people could have
gotten bored with that? I think it says more about humans than the actual game. Yeah because I
mean him and Russell just doing it like regularly. They were born triple with double for triple double
and like it got to a point where we just got accustomed to it. Because I think that happens with
all forms of media too. Right. If your favorite artist is dropping the banger after the banger after
the bangers like yes it's cool but like you know or your favorite TV show is on season 32
because I guess it's cool but you know kind of kind of bored. What's the hell you put about the
symptoms? I've gave up on the symptoms after a long time ago. Yeah. I was just talking about
the talent standpoint to be able to have something because most of the time you are able to get bored
with something because there's other things. Colby was always the mainstay for me. I was never
getting bored of seeing because it wasn't like three other Colby's. You know what I mean?
You have Colby McGrady and that prolific student nights get bored for y'all?
What that was no example. So like if when Conkins if Conkins with his eight eight in our threes
like that's still exciting. There's some different when a player get hot in the motion as in
the arena when somebody hit three threes in a row or something. There was a moment in the panes. I
don't know. There was a moment in the nuggets game yesterday where Yoke it's where I think
him always out and Yoke it's just gave him like 10 12 points straight and nobody could check him.
It's like I love seeing that touch. Yeah. That's a dominant. Yeah. That's just he talked about like
like Con and their game a couple last night. They were down by like seven. Yeah. And he had two
back to back threes and that's a home game Eric Collins on the call. Yes. And it's like that.
Eric Collins makes it feel important. That's very true. Yeah. Duncan Robinson has eight three.
I'm like okay but I ain't gonna be like I got to run that tape back. Oh yeah. No I got to
run that tape back man. There's a video. That's a bunch of videos like this like best heat checks
moments. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Remember he was compilation. It was like in a summer you just
be watching though because you were just dropping them in a group chat. These all the time.
Damien Lillard heat check that crazy. Yeah. I think we should do more reaction videos.
It's so fun to reminisce about some of these. We got to do some like you because it's so much
some of the 60s 70s videos. Yeah. You got that one. Yeah. You got that one. That's your show.
You're on your own. That one. That's just sound boring. Maybe it's not though. They told me.
They just came. They said NBA was better back then. Who was they? I can't believe they are still alive
to even tell us. 60s and 70s. There it is. Okay. Last night we did see Jason Tatum come back
from what? That was so beautiful. 1512 and 7 started the game. No minutes restrictions. No
played almost 30 minutes. Would have played more if they were. Yeah. When they said no
minutes restriction before a tip off. I was like whoa. I was expecting to see Tatum for like 15
to 20 minutes. Maybe it most back to we saw him from almost 30s. I'm pretty impressed.
So what's the excuse for the other guys that be on minutes restrictions? Everybody's different.
Yeah. Okay. I think Gordon was on the minutes restrictions yesterday. I think the South
is trying to win. Well, he got one of those things. He can't be healed. That hamstring.
Well, it can't be healed. But you go. Yeah. Yeah. You can easily. I didn't know he was playing
until I didn't know if I was like I was not there. Yeah. I saw a picture of him warming up
and the kid was imitating him. And that's how I found out. Poor kid. But yeah, Jason Tatum,
what you mean? He should be 2090 damage. Okay. He did got a little bit of a heart.
A little bit. He got a little hitch in it. Yeah. I feel like you got to be super strong to
shoot like that. Yeah. Yeah. And he'd be in the air. Yeah. I have a little bit too.
I thought Tatum's passing in his rebound and showed why even if he can't shoot, it's fine.
Explosion. To see him try to dunk. Yeah. Even though he missed and then I had to put back
dunk. He would have brought the house down. Yeah. He was waiting. I love the fact that he had
the confidence to still get down here and attack the rim. He started off a little slow. I think
he started off a six. But then he ended up going like five to five after that. And so
the fact that he was able to be aggressive and get to his spots and get his shots.
His first shot was a typical Tatum baseline full of many on PJ Washington. He missed. But
it's like he was still able to get to his spot and rise up and look fluid. And I think that that's
something that you should be able to take away from this. Officially it's not going to be
known someone's first came back from missing 10 months of basketball. No, I love that. I love
that first shot. Yeah, I look very Jason Tatum as it's like we want you to be Jason Tatum again.
I think the best part was also Jalen Brown was still the Jalen Brown. We pretty much seen all year.
The question I want to ask y'all because I was thinking about this when I was watching before
the game. I watched all the recovery videos like back to back to back. How long ago? I didn't watch
that long at all. They're like three to five minutes. Okay. Do y'all think because I rewatched the
play where he got hurt? And I wonder. Does that injury? Is that injury always going to happen?
Like was his body at a state where, and I know this don't work for everybody. Sometimes like we
just say running back his leg will get caught. And he get hurt because his leg got caught. So if
his leg didn't get caught, he wouldn't have got hurt. But with some of these NBA players, like
I even thought you should think about this with their grows. If he decided not to pro hop,
was he not going tears? I don't remember the actual play that Tatum got. He was throwing a ball to
nah he was throwing a ball to Jalen Brown. Oh yeah. And so he tried to reach out and go get it
and launch for it. And he tried to explode off the back leg and then it happened. So I'm saying
for injuries like that was his Achilles or his calf going through something or was that just a
play where if he don't throw the ball, he shoot a jump shot. He never tears. I know sometimes
it's hard to say. I feel like that was hard to say. Like if they're going to have him in a game
when they up 20, what happens after that? Yeah. Do three weeks later, he tears staying because it
was just so much pressure being put on there. Or I think it's always freak accidents. But that's
my interpretation is it's like it's too much stress on the muscle, whatever it is.
Again, I ain't no doctor. I'm far from doctor, but I always very far from doctor.
But yeah, I don't think it was a coincidence that the three guys who did it last year were having
calf injuries. But no, Tatum, I mean, have no calf injuries. I thought Tatum had already had
a lingering calf injury before I thought so. Maybe I'm wrong. I know a Taliban in
Taliban. Tariq's Taliban named him. Yeah. I don't remember. I don't remember. I remember
it. I was John Tatum. I think the best way to cope with an injury like that is to say that
it would have happened regardless. It was just a matter of time. Yeah. Because freak accidents,
I think that lingers in the back of your mind a little bit that it could happen anytime. But if you
say like, oh, it was going to happen regardless, whether it be in this game four or if we went to a
game seven. I was right. So they always have the type of calf injury before them. Also,
Tatum was already having calf injuries. So that's just how he's got stood out. Yeah.
So yeah, with every one of them, super high stakes, right? It's the playoffs. I can't
get rid of the game. Maybe like 40-something when you have one of the best games I don't see.
And then literally it was like first game back, first, not first game back. He just came
off first injury and then he gave seven. So it's like, it's hard. If they would have happened in
game 30 at a season, maybe like, yeah, chill. When the post easy, it's going to be hard to convince
all stars, all NBA players to sit out, man, all these games matter. But I'm just so happy
Tatum is back. Does that change the ceiling at y'all opinion? Like the y'all see them already
as a contender now? They're just elevated or? It makes them one of the biggest stress out of
these. Yeah, I think they're contender for real. Even vooties out, by the way. He should be back, though.
He should be back for playoffs. He's out for a month. The hope is that Boston and the color
voosa, which is back before the playoffs. But Tatum is still fine. Tatum was, Tatum's had a really
nice connection with Tatum. But they really haven't played that much. I mean, they probably played
five, but none of the time since he's actually played with him. The fact that you get him now,
March 6th is what makes them a contender. Yeah, and he has 20 games in his legs under him.
That rust is going to be gone because a lot of stuff is short. And I think he was coached
to go downhill to try to dunk. Because the quicker you get over that mid to hurdle,
just the sooner you'll be back. Because I had to go by the injury. It took me, it took me forever.
I'm not going to lie. It was all a lot. Yes. And they were there. That was all a nasty.
It was a bad thing. So in brown said, that was my fault. I should I was I was trying to see
where he is mentally and physically. I'll be safe for next time and not do that.
Yeah, please do. Testing your boys like that. It's crazy. Yeah, first game.
But if Tatum went up that guy, that thing was like, oh snap. Yeah, he would have been like nice
okay, bad. That's what we had there. It's a tough middle ground for people who've never
dealt with injury. Because you want to mentally attack it. But in the back of your mind,
there is that PTSD of like to to re injury and to reactivate it is like, it's tough. He just
need, yeah, like I said, he's got the time to kind of get over that hump. And he's also,
I think, mentally, he got to trust everything he's worked and done in the like the last years. So
it's the reason why he got the surgery the next morning. It's the reason why he's been doing all
this is to get back to this moment. So hopefully that gives him a little bit more confidence too.
He didn't want that surgery. Did y'all know that? I thought he did. No, his mind. In the videos,
he's talking about when he got there, the doctor is like, oh man, by the way,
I got three o'clock open. Like we can do this now. And just tell everybody, no, man, I ain't,
I ain't come like to get surgery like right now. And his mom and ex everybody to leave. And she
told him like, you got to get the surgery, whether you get it now or two days or now, you get
the surgery anyway. So we're going to do it today. You know what I mean? And if anybody can get
through it or get back for this, it's going to be you. The story is like he broke down. Listen to
your parents kids, but he ended up doing it. And that's how he was able to, you know,
because the doctor looked at his watch was like, man, you get into 24 hours. We gonna be,
we gonna be real good. So I'm kind of team. Take them on that. I feel like you got a mentally
prepped for surgery. That's why I got to do it in an athlete's are in that regard.
That's a side where fans and media don't give them the credit because when I had to get surgery,
I had to mentally, I was able to mentally prepare for it because every surgery I've had,
you had to have empty stomach and yadda yadda. You're like, he probably didn't have a big breakfast
and everything. You think so? I guess we won't go early as here. He said, okay. They like flew
or know they drove because I think that yeah, they was already in New York. So that's why his mom
and the doctor was like, this meant to be because that's the doctor that did and beat and
carried surgeries and stuff and had a burn surgery. Oh, well, yeah, Hallebert injury came after. So
yeah, but it's like, we already in New York goodness. That do how much money is that? Bro, that's
the first thing I came to my mind. You adopted and all of a sudden you opened the next day at
three o'clock for Jason Taylor. You ain't just mistakenly open. Come on, man. Somebody got pushed
down. Balls and stuff. Right. Yeah. Yeah. This is somebody unseed and need me kill these surgery
and like, nah, you can wait a week. Bro, how much money did man? I don't know a lot. One of one of my
best stories is that the dude that did my shoulder surgery, Dr. Was Joseph also did their roses first
surgery. Yeah. And I only the first. My dad used to look at you show the show because he fucked
up their gross. He's like, he just wasn't that good with the scalpel, I guess. Oh, man. You
remember? You remember you posted that picture of what picture? Oh, of my surgery. No, I don't
remember doing that. Did I do any, but where like, no, but I just remember, maybe you're not
posted it, but you definitely sent it to the group. Oh, that didn't I wore nobody. Oh, that makes
way more sense. They gave videos and pictures of the like inside my shoulder. So it's like
all the flesh and you just dropping it in the bag. I can drop it again. I'm sure I got it in my
head. No, it's so it's so bad. I can't stand looking at this. Just looking at Jason,
say, I'm MRI and X-ray and the doctor is showing you right here just to get right here where it's
not connected. I was like my skin. I still feel so bad to this day, bro, because we was at that
gym in KBS. He had heard himself. That was senior digital day, too. We supposed to be in class.
No, I still feel bad for a moment. We none of us was there. KBS was shooting around. They had a
32, but y'all they don't know. And we got a little audience here today. KBS was at a gym
shooting around on the other side of the gym. It was a group of guys having a 32, which is every man
for itself, basically. And in the midst of that 32, it was a loose ball that rolled down the floor.
They never said nothing to KB. Like, hey, hey, watch out for that ball. And he rode his ankle.
And the lip out because he know that they just went back to playing like.
This is a full court. You had headphones in some. I don't remember if I had headphones.
It made me though. I just that was the first time I've ever sprayed my ankle. I had to be like
24 first ankle spraying. Nobody said, yo, yo, nobody came over to make sure I was cool when I was
on the floor. He's on the floor. I tossed him the ball back. They said KB on the ground.
Hey, shout out to all me mates with no cause if something go wrong, I would like him to be the
Oh, yeah, with the shoulder thing. KB was like, man, came one of y'all help. I just turned away.
I couldn't even floor that. I had dislocated my shoulder a bunch of times. So I knew how to put it
back into his place, but you can't do it by yourself. So I'm like, one of y'all, I'm going to tell
you what to do. And Mike basically ran across the gym. And Mason was like, I don't want to do it,
but if you need me to, what can I do? Oh, shout out to Mason. That one football players get hit
and they show it to you. And he has somebody help tell me. What I did learn since then is that you
not supposed to do that. Do what? Have one of your homies put your shoulder back into place?
You supposed to just sit there and let the doctor do it the right way. Oh, but the right way,
the right way. Oh, or maybe that's just a reason for them to build more on them. Yeah, that's
how it is. You ever had a big time injury? No, I've just sprained my ankle real bad. I do
I had like a great friend. Yeah. I think I'm like an entry pass from like 50 feet. I remember
that. Oh, and I'm the green the bronze. Yeah, I had to get a doctor's note. I couldn't work
with like seven weeks. Dick Brutella was pissed. Why I could work? I just couldn't work outside.
I just had to stand at the B. Someone stationery and I really do a much. I couldn't really do a lot of
walk. Hey, man. Guess how it is? Is it y'all see the spurs game last night? Spurs come back against
the clippers. They would have had 25 points when nine minutes left from the third quarter. Can I
try another question? Never mind. Never mind. Ask it. Never mind. Is it about the wimpy thing?
No. What would you think? Um, he got really most sure after this game. Yeah, it was about that.
Okay. Is somebody tell me about this? I don't I'm sure he may have talked about it.
I just know there's been a reason. I'm not. I'm not. I'm just saying it's been a lot of shit.
You know, wimpy been posting about the missing kid that was here and everything. And I'm sure
it's just the motions. Okay. It's been all time. I could be wrong. That made a thousand
percent completely wrong. Oh, he just really loved his shit. No, no, no, even if that was the
answer. It's cool. I never got an answer because I didn't see if I can find some. I had a little
birthday gathering. So I was with, you know, yeah, thanks for everything. My family's in
France. Yeah. And say what? Thanks for the invite. I invited you seven years in a row.
You know, you said you was just going to pull up. And they're they're always got the green
like as I tell them, my mama don't want to put away food. So, you know, she always be like,
yeah, just up with the one. Yeah. I mean, you got to play. Yes, you did. And then eight left.
And I ain't mad at it. I'm just not wondering on people that's gonna make everybody.
And man, I got this thing. You must come to my event and sit there and beat it.
Because it ain't that it was, you know,
ate some chicken. Well, when I throw my event, y'all better beat it. What's your
better? No, I'm gonna forget you ain't kind of done my daughters events. Yeah, what?
Oh, which one? The very third part. He income to the first two. I'm sorry.
But he was at the third one. The one at the the kitty place where you came with a taco.
Yeah, he was there for that one. Right. Did you walk in with a taco? Yeah, I walked across
street. You're the only code I could find from Winby from last night is this one about his
teammates. The best thing I can see is that nobody gives up on this team. Everybody got
everybody's back. And that's why I was, that's why I blindly trust these guys. I love them so
much. It's such a pleasure to play with them to share the court to see them every day.
Hey, if he got caught, if he, if emotions ran ahead, that was that series for him. I'm
loved it. I'm not telling nobody about the cry. I just, as a viewer, remember like we was talking
and I looked back and he was crying. And I'm, I couldn't hear the TV. I'm like, why is he crying?
But okay, try to point me, man. Hey, Winby bringing that, he bringing that, that pedigree back
into the game. He made too many knots a lot. Yeah. So I was hoping that it was going to be like,
I was crying because I really wanted that win. I ain't going to lie. I was hoping.
And maybe that's it. I'm still trying to find some codes. But he brought in a competitive edge.
He'd be acting salty when he lose. He did that. He don't really be acting like he wanted to be
friends. Some of it, some of it sometimes be looking like he's trying. But even if you're trying,
we need that. Yeah, I say I always like it because you see many people that just don't do it at all.
So for him to kind of be that lone wolf or it might be one or two guys, that's what we need in
the league. I hope we actually kind of turns out a little bit like we get a few more because
that's how we really do get those people that not only want to stay with that team for a long time,
but we get those deep embedded rivalries where yeah, we look, we want to see this every night.
It don't matter if it's playoffs, but these teams to these two teams playing, I got to see it
because it's like it's always a war between these teams. Just one of the one of the best wins I've
been a part of, definitely the best 30 hours of basketball because they beat the pistons the night
before. They beat the break soft. Yeah. So they bust. And being down about 25 points and coming
back to win, man. You didn't jump in. He was lighting that as well. Hey, man, we said, oh, he got
more. I thought I was about to pass out in the first quarter from exhaustion. That's close to the
hardest game of my life. So there you go. Oh, wow. Yeah, and envy, wimpy. We played a hell of a game
against the most physical team in the league yesterday and played tonight against another physical
team as well. So yeah, bro, I was just thinking about that and I feel like this always a conversation
with like the back the backs and sometimes we get team stacks because it's just hard to play a
team, travel, barely getting any like recovery and then play another team again, especially when
they didn't have a back the back. So it's it's real easy to be like, yeah, we can kind of write
those losses off. But some teams have been able to kind of take care of business on those back
the backs and it goes a long way. I'm sorry. I won my starter care that much. Now I won my 12th
man to care that much for the show. Absolutely. Shout out, shout out, wimpy, shout out, wimpy.
I mean, he has great mentors around him. I mean, Manu, Tim Duncan, David Robbins. Is Manu
locked in to the spurs like that? Y'all be seeing him around the facility? I've seen them,
but I don't know how locked in. I would have seen that they were probably all. I don't know if
he's a mentor, but I get the assumption. Yeah, the spurs. So yeah, I'm not here to deny it or to
say it is. I'm just I'm in unknown on that. All right, Mike, what we got today? I wanted to kind
of go through all the teams out west and just give one thing that was a takeaway or something we
kind of learned the season. We could start off just kind of going through the stand and so we'll
start off with the thunder. I was at the spurs going to unlock the code of how to really defend them.
I felt like last year they were just red hot. So teams kind of guarded them as if you needed to
take away that shooting, but then the spurs said, no, we don't we don't just put wimpy on
dirt and let them roll and then all of a sudden it seemed like every team kind of felt like they
uncranked the code, how to defend them. I also put on here. Let me give it up my notes. What else
it I put for them? Also, they love finesse and daremory. You know what? It's funny because I had
it was the other time they finesse daremory. I said, Joe. Oh, daremory probably wasn't there,
but it was just the sixes in general. I had to like very similar thing. The one was just like the
spurs script. Spurs kind of feel like they're kryptonite because again, you just they mostly want to
get to the pain. They really struggle. So you have it when you park down there. It's just like a
no good like that seems like the worst person's or worse team to run into when the playoffs. And then
two, Sam Preston just even even when it feels like touching this roster and making you changes
doesn't always feel right. He still continues continues to improve this roster. I don't even think
people still are again, copperheading how to scary this roster is because they're just so damn
young and they just got younger would I they could just got younger with the pickup with
Jim McCain. And then they're about they could potentially still get they picked too or like they
have a really good pick and they still looking like a top dog in the league is. If things go right,
they can bring in two picks. I think it's because that jazz pick and the clippers pick and everything
breaks perfect. Got a break perfect. And they're already a deep team. I mean, they have some people
that barely get in rotation, but when they do. I mean, who's watching? I just got traded and he
looks like a revelation for the box. Yeah. They trade those top if they were to get two top picks.
Do they trade those for what? I don't know. But this thing is kind of crazy to bring in two
top picks. No, I. Yeah, you're saying if I can have a tactical because they're not going to get
those at least not the jazz one. But I think they keep it. Yeah. I did have a little flexibility
with salary. It's like, well, are you going to trade that to bring in also here's a number.
Even before I heart comes back or moves or a little door. Yeah, yeah, they're 21 million dollars
over the second eight for next season. So even if you want to package them, so we're going to get
another stuff they just can't just can't do it. So that's. So a lot of the things that I have for
today's episodes, as far as things we learned are not new things. It's more things that kind of
got amplified by the season, like Sam Presley being in the league of his own. And the way they think
they haven't thinking about two years, three years down the line because the German pain acquisition.
It's not just because Jeremy Kane is good at basketball, but it's another controllable,
rookie scale deal that they can have, knowing that door, knowing that Kenny Hustle,
when somebody's dudes may not be able to be on the team next season. And the pick that they gave up,
the first one I picked they gave up is the Houston Rockets. When it was like the 25th, 26th overall
pick spot that they probably wouldn't even have a roster spot for either way because they also got
potential these other picks. So Sam Presley continues to lap circles around the league and he has
done it for like how many true mistakes has he really had in the 15 years he's been in charge of it?
I just want to see him James Hart's the biggest one, but like other than that, I mean, nobody's
going to hit 100% of the draft picks, but he's been killed for like a greedy personal reason.
I want to see him on another team just trying to do the same thing replicated because he
has been called off. Like if he went to he's been unfair. The Jack, I mean, I know he went to the
the Kings. Could he turn the Kings around in five seasons? The other way here to move it,
I might have to trust him. I might have to trust the other teams is going to be like, yeah,
we don't deal with him even more. He's just finessed us for 15 other years. I mean,
they still do it now, don't they? I guess that's right. I don't want to disrespect that man,
like, let's see, but no, I don't think he can do it. Yeah, I think that assets is really still
great. I think he had a really good start by being able to get the Katie that started and again,
and they need to take away from him because he did that. And luckily for him, he don't need to go
nowhere else. I hope he died with the thunder. No, no, no time soon. I hope it's a hundred
years from now. I want to see him alive. People like him end up getting bored eventually.
I mean, yeah, he bad night. He bad night. Don't get bored, but he just started winning.
That was just one champion. That was just one. Yeah. Um, I think that's the thing I've learned
is doing the course of the season. This team is beatable. Yeah. They started off with 25 and what?
24 one. I didn't think that they could lose. We were, yeah, I remember the conversation
of like, hey, they might not lose. What was y'all? What was the number? Before the season,
before the season started, we had a conversation of, can they get to 70? And I was like,
shit, no way. And then about a time I was like, shit, 70. I feel like y'all wasn't wrong. Um,
y'all wasn't wrong at all for that. And that really felt like a team that was unbeatable because
they didn't have no dub. You know what I'm saying? And then Jada up and I'm kind of came back. And
I know they didn't have Shae or whatever, but they had a stretch where they looked human. They
looked beatable. Yeah, they look like they had some things that they needed to figure out. And
that really caught me by surprise. I'm not going like that caught me by surprise. Um, and now
seeing a team like the Spurs have their number. I had, I mean, I have, I'm not used to hearing that
in the last two years. Um, it's so tough. It's so tough. It's so tough. It is so tough, which is
why I'm happy about the things you brought up. Yeah, let's make this a five year, four year
thought process of a plan to where when we get a lot of pick, we don't think we have to trade it
because financially, we, we are able to keep a nucleus together. And then we trust our
development system and staff to be able to, you know, if they lose, hypothetically, uh,
Lou Dore and now AJ Mitchell is a starter. Now you got topage as a bench peat like they just
going to have a system just, just ready. And everybody is just kind of in a key bridge,
certain people. Yeah. Topic is a rest shirt, sober, sober is a rest shirt. You know, they may
draft somebody this year that my rest shirt. Who knows? Uh, I was also trying to do like a positive
and negative for everyone. I did it just personally. So if y'all don't have one that's like perfectly
fine, put away. No, I just, I don't know because we always sometimes we might have the same thing.
So it's just, it was just a guy in our classroom in college. Yeah. Where the idea was to what,
the homework, we had to answer four questions. We had to answer four questions. Ray put a whole
business plan together. But he didn't do it like trying to overachieve. He just misunderstood
it with his side. Okay. Okay. And I hope Ray doing good because he, he said he wanted to be a
mechanic or something. Yeah. I think all as playoffs, he was talking about how he was kind of
surprised. He just didn't gap up. She as much as they should have. I think it's going to be
amplified by like times 10 this season. Like, come playoff time. It's almost everybody but
shade. Yeah. There's so much pressure on Dub to replicate his last year's playoffs. And that's
maybe unfair because he hasn't really played at all this season. There's a lot of pressure on
AJ Mitchell because he's one of the other ball handlers that can create and get downhill. There's
a lot of pressure on Chet Homegren as well. Right. Chet had that game the other night. Is that
it gets the next? Yeah. We had like 20 points in the first one. Yeah. Yeah. And then they,
they said on the broadcast is the first time Chet has scored 20 since the beginning of January.
So he had gone in a game in a game. Yeah. Yeah. They did. He had gone like two months without
scoring 20, which can you focus any of that 20, 25 piece of flesh. It is funny because he said
that before the game. And I think Richard Jefferson said, yeah, for that's not what they expect.
And it was all of a sudden he had said big games. So I know K. P was happy. He should be able to
drop 25. Yeah. Yeah. He should. He should. I mean, he should be able to go two months without
that 20 points. It's kind of crazy. I didn't even realize that I guess they just that damn good.
Yeah. What's the next team? We have the San Antonio Spurs. What I learned is that you got to kind
of get away from historical data a lot of the times. We're like, no team is young or no team with
no experiences that've been able to be this good and make a running time still tell if they're good
enough to win multiple playoff series. But every time you watch them every single night,
there's there's nothing that you can point to like, yep, that's the reason why they won't
win like go to the conference finals. So you just, I don't know, I've always been like a historical
day to guy, you know, no team is everyone in championship being 20 second in defense. It's all
of this stuff got to get away from that from the Spurs. And I don't know if that's a winby thing.
Is he is such an alien or just a league evolving as a whole? I'm not sure. I think it's a winby thing.
My thing was that they executed on having a now and developing for the future.
They got Dylan Harper on a back end developing while also having the Aaron Fox and Stefan Castle
lead the show. So eventually in the future, you probably plan on having Dylan Harper take that
spot and moving on from the Aaron Fox and then, yeah. And then you also just got winby.
Junior Shippinning was a steal for y'all. So they've they've managed to compete while also
developing the young talent. This is a hard window that you usually see a teen's flop at.
Have you seen all of those Dylan Harper stats about his downhill stuff? No. Like he's like top 10,
like get into the rim and the league already has a rookie. I totally scary stuff. Yeah. And
that's it. He's doing that coming off the bench. And I think the finish and not as good as some
of the other dudes on the list, but the fact that he can create us by himself to get downhill.
This early on is a blessing for year two, year three, a foe and so on.
Yeah. I had put for the spurs that Wemby has obviously been in the spotlight,
I think kind of Stefan Castle and a Aaron Fox have been in there too. But I think the other
guys are just as much love. Like having guys like Keldin Johnson, guys like Harrison Barnes,
guys like, you know, Julian shippin, even to Luke Gordon, they have been so good this season that
even when they have had people down, they've been able to step up and again, they're
the two seed right now. And we had time with our Wemby as Miss Games. We had times where Fox
Miss Games and they haven't really missed a step at all. I think they got they went out and got
the right vets to fit this thing. A lot of events been on that thing. Well, yeah, look where net
was like the newest one, but like Harrison Barnes is nice. Keldin Johnson, I mean, he's been a
leaf world of many. I know they ain't go get him, but it's kind of balling to that role of coming
off the bench and being a spark plug. So they kind of got the right rest people for this team.
I hope Keldin Johnson is able to stay long term. I don't know if he's going to end up being a
guy that they end up trained, but even Devin Vaseo has had an amazing year for them.
So it was my dark course for six minutes a year. I think the experts are going to be this good,
though. The day the spurs helped me learn is that this is it's not as hard as people make it
till I build a win a build a good team. Yeah, they didn't overthink anything. They didn't panic
on having Keldin Johnson and Devin Vaseo. We put y'all in some new roles. They didn't panic on
bringing in Devin Vaseo when they had the rookie of the year stuff on Castle as a guard. They didn't
panic when Dylan Harper fell in the labs and they had, uh, they had, they had, they had Fox and
they had Castle. They did the best player available for them. I felt like a lot of times when
teams are building is so much overthinking that they kind of mess some things up.
Just like somebody, I forget what page it was. They, they showed all of the tweets
of like people saying, um, man, your school for the, for the brand. And again, it's easy to have
the hindsight because school was a really good prospect. But it was like, I was so glad
that the Hornets got Brandon Miller and to see now it's like they made the right decision.
Like it was like a match made in heaven in my, in my opinion. And I think the Spurs are another
team that showcasing that at a higher scale of like, it's really simple when you don't overthink
things. Stefan Castle was a no-brainer at four. Dylan Harper was a no-brainer at what,
what was that two? Two at two. Um, going to get deer and foxes and no-brainer move.
Especially for that price. Yeah. It's like, it's not much to think. It's like, I remember the
conversation. People's have, they, they got the guard. All these guards. What are they doing? It's like
relax. Relax. They don't trade Dylan Harper for Janus. Right. Yeah. Relax. Relax.
You know what I mean? I was, they shut the door on that immediate. I was thinking, we,
we used to have that conversation. It was like, I was more, who would you give up? Not necessarily
saying that they needed to make that move. But to see them kind of like, just simply
put this thing together and they have not made they move. Well, I guess the air foxes they move.
I'll take that back. They did make them move. But they still have one to do another one.
They could be still on a rookie scale deal for the next two years. They're not trying to
exploit the timeline. They just trying to state a pace and just let every day play. I'll have
plays out. Is that a turn a corner being turned in the NBA? Because the thunder got that young
nucleus. They have a young nucleus. And is it anybody I'm forgetting about that could be in that
same similar. Hornets. Uh, Hornets? I'm talking about that at the top. The Hornets. The
championship. The Hornets. Yeah. I was with the Hornets and they ain't saying anything about
the championship. That is telling me play. I'll play. I'll play. Pissons is a super young. Oh,
yeah. Oh, no, because I think that for every great GM there is, there's another one that's stupid.
So they're still going to be guys like, yeah, we got to add fuel to the fire. Here's four first
rail picks for Desmond Bain. How about that? That was a young nucleus. Do you blame them for that?
No, high sight. Yeah. But at the time I was like, so they, I mean, Desmond Bain been amazing for the
last two months. See other stuff that ain't really working the injuries and maybe the coaching staff
and stuff. But would y'all consider the Raptors a young? No. Yeah. I mean, ain't young. They kind of
like, they lean so much on. I think Scotty's at 24, but everybody else is. Yeah. I'm trying to
run me from 27, 28. Yeah. Yeah. You got CMB and Scotty. CMB, I forgot. But like, yeah, you would,
you would have needed Grady Dick all of the other draft picks. I'm not really working. I mean,
they trade O.J. Abaji, who they traded a first round pick to get. Remember from the Utah Jazz
a little while ago. I remember that vividly, because I hated that trade.
Kobe Walter still is. I hated that trade. And so many people, I didn't think my
hatred. I liked O.J. Abaji. I didn't think that trade was going to like get reaction on me saying,
I didn't like it because it was such a small trade to me. Yeah. But people was like, no,
you don't get it. It's Abaji. And I'm like, where are y'all getting this hype? Like, I like
him too, but he, yeah, he never really been as good as you think. He and Brooklyn now, hopefully,
how was he playing and how many people are foster Brooklyn as a game since that's right on this panel?
I've seen him do some shit, but I'm not even going to say. He's just been, it's just been
on like on a four box. What did he do to get a layup? That was it. That's it. If you lie,
because what if he just got the last five games? Don't get to sweating. No, I'm good. I
definitely know he's cool. He said, no, I'm good. He's been averaging 13 minutes per game since he
got trade at five points per game. Yeah, I'm sure he did have a layup in that one of these games
is zero. That's fine. That could have been a game. He talked about them. So he was shooting 18
percent from three when he got, when he was in Toronto, nation 44 percent from three in his
limited amount of minutes. Okay. That's all he needed to change his leader. Change his center.
He had the same thing. Again, Ryan Anderson had with the read.
He got to change it up. One of one of the most bizarre stories that somebody did research on,
but the people at home, somebody did like a historical data at Ryan Anderson's shooting splits
when he played at an arena with a red court versus one that didn't have red. And he shot
like 10 percent better from three in the non-red courts. That's crazy. So someone just told
the story about it was like a baseball thing. By the way, people do that type of weird shouldn't
baseball. Jayden Brunson was telling the story about how he loved playing in Chicago. And I
forgot someone on the panel with him was with a point and they said they hated playing in Chicago
because of the lights. And they said it was too bright because everybody we'd never have sugars.
Well, yeah, I mean, you mean like the lights are bright like Jared Allen or like.
No, like the lights are too bright. That's having got to be a thing for some people because
has you feel you played on that court before? I didn't play with it. It would felt fine because
they didn't have all the lights on for us. Sure they did. They said we don't like it. Because
I'd never played in no gym where like there's no wall behind the rim. So it's really hard. Yeah,
the depth perception is way different. That's why that's why the bubble was so crazy. That's why
everybody saw 80% from three. They didn't need to worry about depth perception. The wall was right
there a whole time. Oh boy, Russ dunked. He's saying, yeah, that's paying over to the mom.
101 101. All right, what's the next team? Like, would you have told you all significant
other to come to the bubble? No. I wouldn't. Why should they be locked up?
It's just two months. I really wanted to. Yeah, but I wouldn't I wouldn't be like, yeah, come, come,
come. The low one. The low one just said that just. Yeah, what is the key? I mean, we are a
Disney, I guess. So the kid probably has stuff. I want to, yeah, what a ride. Yeah, you think
they got the rides going working? I don't know. It was broad and sound. Then they said,
the Lopez wins loved it though. Yeah, they Disney adults. So Robin, maybe they opened up some
of the rest of the game that Robin got cut. Yes, he said he said that he was reading the book.
Yeah. I'm like, what the hell? And then he moved to Orlando. Yes, he did.
Because he was a Disney guy. Next time Minnesota, September was Minnesota. What I learned,
I did an episode of Small Ball last week where I was doing like, on a one through ten,
how much pressure is this team on when it comes to the postseason? And I got to the Minnesota
Timberlost. And I'm like, I truly don't know. Two conference fighters appearances. The
core is still intact. I think we all still believe that they can go on another run. I,
yo, even if the onoff numbers never look good for them feels like a great fit over there.
Julius Randall has had a pretty good season. So I didn't know and I opened up the panel. I say,
hey, tweet me, DM me, let me know what you think about the pressure. But I was specifically asking
Minnesota Timberlost fans. The fans over there say the pressure is at a tan dog. A tan?
Does that feel right to y'all? Yeah. Because it just fanned them tan and wiggle guard.
So that there's pressure to to succeed in the postseason. So I think the team that I had the
highest at like a nine was the nicks because they were the favorite to come into the eastern
conference. Yada yada yada. And they're saying that Minnesota's up there with one of the most
pressure teams. Yeah, I would say. I mean, I can put them as high as the nicks. I won't put them,
yeah, that a teen or a nine. But there is some pressure, but it's also like your young stars,
not even 28. So like, and so in their mind for a few to once that I read, it's like
hypothetically, if you have a season or another postseason that was good, but maybe not great.
What is the next move? Like how do you get better? That's my heart. Yeah.
Unfortunately for them, they just kind of lost everybody. It's kind of outplayed their current.
So like, at least this year, I don't really see them losing anymore. Those two previous years,
they lost people. Yeah, that I was a free agent.
Oh, well, is this the second to last on Rudy's contract?
I know he signed an extension. It was a short extension. So you could still be a second to last.
How long was Julie's Randall contract? He just signed a three year 30 million.
I love that. And then Julie's, I mean, Nause also signed like a four.
He is. So their core is set. Is it? I think there's a there's a pressure to kind of beat one of
these teams above them with the spares of O.K.C. Because they're not really, I mean, we just talked
about their youth. They're not really going that far. And if we can't really name that many ways.
And there's always avenues for the timbrels to get better. It's like, if you can't beat them now,
when you're going to be able to beat them. So they come up, I mean, realistically, if they come up
short again, then they probably just fire Chris Finch. And then they move on, which would be a big mistake.
That's, I mean, that's just things like how front office is operating. We can't get over the hump.
We got to look at the, and it's usually the hicc. Unfortunately, I'm not saying I want Chris Finch.
As a miconore, he just moves up a seat because of that one time. I think all of that is dependent on how
they lose. They would have to lose for one again, or they would have to get swept. They are
sent to the 3C for the first time this season. So shout out to them. Yeah, I don't think you could just
blindly fire your coach because that's what other teams do. You would hope so, but this thing
like as a copycat Lee, everything kind of do the same shit. And some regards, but every team
he got to Anthony Edwards who like his coach. Yeah, because Doc Rivers let the, let the media tell
that Doc Rivers should have been fired. He should have been sure it's wants to be there. The
Bucks, I don't get his ass and let him have it. I would too is young. Yeah, the Bucks are just like
kind of out of the playoff hunt now, by the way. Completely. They five games behind. Yeah,
they're the hornets. It's okay. You still got your honest and he said, I mean, well, that's all
that matter. I'm going to have a lot of you pick this year. That's the day told me around the
deadline. And I was saying different things. It said they were saying hi, hi, y'all this trick
y'all. It's what he want to be. So I'm happy for Yannis. I know how much he want to win, but
he's in Milwaukee. And it's no one sees him in Milwaukee and he happy. I'm happy for him. So
shout out to salute to Milwaukee and Yannis. I'm the couple. Y'all think Yannis doesn't
ever recruiting. It's a really good joke. The salute because Darvin Ham is on the bench.
Oh, go on on the board. Maybe that's why dog rivers they've been fired because the replacement
will be fucking Darvin. Yeah. Why is that replacement? How about your whole staff go? I people don't
do that. I'm one of those. Yeah, I'm one of those. The whole staff go. You hired him?
I never understand that. Let me fire you, but keep the dude that you trusted to sit right next to you.
You know what I mean? How many coaches got fired and felt like they got snaked by their system?
A lot of them. Like Mike Malone came to looking at David Adam and like, yeah, I like him.
There came in with the way I was left for the scene. He had picked him to be his left. They might
have seen. It's so sad anytime Mike Malone is causing like he's doing a Nuggets game media wise.
Because he always be talking about the old players like he missed them. Jamal was having a crazy
first half. He had like 25 in the first half. And I think that a David Adam and just like Saddam
a little early, like he didn't let him really get his minutes to see how he is. Mike Malone was like,
man, that was me. I'd probably let Jamal in. Got him in a little bit more early, a little bit more
burns. He would kind of night. He would have had, but you know, that's David Adam. But you know,
these guys don't know what they don't. I'm still trying to get used to him on a broadcast.
Yeah. Me too. Me too. But he's saying you're not done coaching. So good. Because you need more
reps on the mic. I think it's his voice. Maybe it is. He got such a raspy voice that it's like,
it feels like it's for coaching. It's always like he been yelling all the time.
That's when he had, when Doc was, didn't have a job. And he was doing all the podcasts.
And he was like, I don't want to fucking hear this dude right now. I'm trying to enjoy my night.
And I got a, you got to actually listen to it. It's nothing he could control.
His voice then always sound like that. Yeah. That's the crazy part.
That's like the NFL players after they career in a fingers. I'll fuck the whole. That's how Doc
River's voice is voice box. Yeah. Upside down left and right.
Kind of Alice showed. Oh my god. What is that? Kind of Alice shoulder. He got some
all your coaches up there. Would you be a yelling coach?
Have to. Not to that level though. If the gym is that damn loud. How the hell are you talking to
your teammates? And I'm this, this could be a high school gym that's loud. We talking about
the NBA arena. Time to have to yell. That's another raspy voice control. Emotion. Pitch tone is also a,
it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a tone setter. It's not necessarily a respect.
It's yellow. Don't get you respected. But I remember we had a coach my senior year. It
didn't just, I had got hurt. So I wasn't playing, but I was listening to what he was saying.
And nobody respected him off the simple fact that he coming in and be like,
we gotta, we gotta freaking box out. You guys are gonna make me say it.
Staying freaking freaking. Yeah. I got a freaking. And we, we would go back to the locker on
it. Be like, the coach is freaking. We too. So big. Yeah. Yeah. Staying freaking.
We had a middle of the game pressure on a lot. You got to make me say it. You got to
freaking box out. That would actually, I would be really, I would laugh. Exactly. So it's the
same thing is not yelling. Derek, I want you to get into a three zone. I want you to box out
your man. You're gonna be like, it's just no versus me saying, hey, come here. Box him out, man.
We down three points. I need you to get this extra possession. I think the best coaches I ever
had knew exactly the right way every person had to be coached. Yeah. You know what to do with it
would not to do. Well, it was a time of PJ Tucker just look at the same time. I'm not
cuddling nobody under pressure. That's fair. Yeah. PJ Tucker looked at Paul at a Paul
read one time and Paul read just knew because he gave it like four. He bounced in a possession.
PJ Tucker ain't saying nothing. You talking about that bench? What happened? You talking
about the bench situation? Yeah. He said something. Did he say, he said like, fuck is you doing
this on him? You know, he, he looked at it and said, fuck is you talking about? You know,
go watch. I don't know. I was having a little trouble. Remember it. Hey, he took a scary
bro. I'm surprised. PJ Tucker don't have like a podcast. I feel like, yeah, you're right.
PJ Tucker's scary. He might be working on it. PJ, PJ Tucker wanted to teammates that I ain't
going out. I would have probably just been like, leave him alone. Cause like, I don't know.
He's my favorite teammate. For sure. But you also lack a lack of day school defender. So he would
have gotten your bumper. Look at him. He said, what are you talking about? Look,
PJ Tucker says he has a house. But I can just remember. I don't remember what he said. I just
remember the lucky hand, bro. Best believe Paul read was boxing out after that, bro. Today only
PJ Tucker. Five, five, three. Y'all crazy. Shout to be here.
Next thing we got is Houston Rockets. They got learned Mike. Is that personally, I'm not as
big of a fan of shingles game that I originally thought I was. I remember coming into the season
because he, um, just all the workouts, the turkey, all of that stuff. I'm like, man, he'd
have to come in and be boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. And he's still obviously he's actually
have a better statistical season than last year. But it's something missing optically. I think
that he's probably falling off a little bit from the defensive impact that he had last season. And I
just, obviously, I'm not out. He's still a great player. But I came into the season that he was
going to be one of my favorite players to watch. And he's very far from that. Yeah. I've been
really high in sin going to, but I can't lie. He's been all like just frustrating to watch.
I don't, the thing that you're saying is missing, I wonder if it's really just like a point guard
to play the picking role game with because a lot of times when he's getting the ball, especially
in crunch time, it's like, okay, Katie gives double. I'm a post up from the three point line and
back somebody down for 10 seconds. It's just, it's not fluid. And it takes a lot of rhythm out
the game, especially if you miss, you take in about 15 seconds to get that two pointer. And you're
not being efficient with it. It's just not good for the whole rhythm of the team. So having a guy
like Freddie or just having a quick guard in general to get him closer to the basket and wake
quicker and make it more in the rhythm, I think it will help him a lot. I think my perception of
like centers is kind of skewed because of like their game against the heat last week
where, where Pelle Larson was his main assignment. And he kept putting his shoulder into his
chest. They put him in every picking role. And he just got exposed. I just feel like your
offensive output got to be so ridiculous to make that worth it. And I just, on some nights, it is
for sure. But other nights when it's bad is really bad. And I just, I don't like that we have
that that deep difference between the best nights and the worst nights. I just think
optically his bitch and just gets to me sometimes because like, that's somebody who was a fan.
He's just a player. He was. I mean, I asked. No, I know it was because I came on here.
I am. We did that. I am a fan. And y'all got on my bumper. I was a fan. I am a fan. But like,
the bitch and the edges, he complained to me. Y'all told me he is closer to yokas than he is the bonus.
He does play. I'm just kind of entice the bonus, I think.
Yeah. For very similar reasons. Right. So that would make them very similar.
Well, I would make him more similar because yokas is in a world of his own. But we
based it on last year where he was actually better defensively. Yes. So like it was like, yeah,
he's closer to yokas than he is the bonus. But this year, you're basing his closeness to
yokas off of defense. No, I'm just speaking of overall impact. Yeah.
And that goes to my point. When you go, you should engage anybody's impact to yokas.
Not especially what I was just saying that he was closer to yokas. It don't matter who it is.
It could be a million miles away. But somebody, one of us is the closest to it. You know what I'm
saying? Like, yeah, yeah, I will choose the closest to yokas. Probably he.
Let's take you to Cape. How? Because I was just saying me. But then he would be a liar for the memes.
I don't think if I'm the closest to yokas, he's then the closest to Jamal Murray.
I mean, you the closest to...
Shit. Bruce Brown.
Have a nice Bruce Brown.
Have a nice picket.
Jaden Pickett got some body on my head. He does his job shots too.
Yeah, I'm definitely more Bruce Brown than you would be.
That one, Jonas.
Boom.
Yeah.
Zignaji, but I can't.
Okay.
Zignaji, I know. I like Zignaji.
I love he like Zignaji.
I like Zignaji.
Remember Zignaji showed up for a week and he was like, hold on.
Yeah.
Zignaji.
Zignaji. I don't say he's closest to subonus as a nut.
Because I mean, the subonus, we would start to feel like it.
The subonus we was referencing was the subonus of last year.
Yeah.
Y'all going off of subonus that barely, I don't even remember subonus this year.
No, you don't really think of that.
I mean, he came back and then he was gone.
Yeah, I'm happy about that.
You will soon.
Don't miss.
It was just more of like a yokuch or such or one of one.
And I just think you would have to do astronomical things to be
like close to yokuch.
Closer to yokuch.
To me, I mean, really the only one that's really been close to yokuch is to be.
Yeah.
Yeah, the MVP.
I like those times sometimes.
Because it could be fun.
Because I think there are one-on-one players like close to person.
It really isn't though, but it's something.
It's got to be close to the closest.
He's not close, but he's close to say bobo.
Yeah, you go.
No, you know what you're just in.
He ain't him.
He's a post.
I knew it was just breaking off that.
He's a post.
Yeah, it's like a chat step.
Muffa's really saying bobo is wimby.
That was crazy.
That was just shak.
That was shak because he only wanted to say shak.
That's a boy he wasn't saying.
Yeah, you just give him minutes.
You can do the same thing.
No, bobo.
So he would have to say shak.
No, shak crazy.
He crazy, shak.
You know the craziest thing about shak?
Is shak can't just be like,
you did your thing.
Shak always got to be like,
hey, I wasn't the believer in you before here.
You driving a bus.
I know you had 35 and 18.
But on some nights,
you're going to have to get 40 and 20.
Except for yokets, bro.
His, go watch all his clips when yokets is the post game.
It ain't no backhanded compliments at all.
Well, I mean, that's the one guy.
He probably really can't say anything, too.
Because yokets is like, I did just have 40 and 20 and 17.
Yeah.
So I dare you to say I needed to get too much.
I mean, the Don of the Mitchell one was really weird back in the day.
What did he say again?
That was awkward.
I don't remember.
I just remember being awkward.
Don of the Mitchell because he said,
I don't remember.
Don of the Mitchell was like, okay.
I mean, he said something about Zion.
Zion, I remember Zion had a national title
about the games that TNT was covering.
And he had like a 20 point triple double of something.
And it's Jack was like, I need to see more.
That's what I'm saying.
That's what I'm saying.
I can see that him trying to, his mind trying to put a battery
and some people back holding one of the graces of all time saying,
I can do more, but it don't be coming off that.
We kind of hit it.
I saw you get 20.
You can get 30.
And I would like the Christian, the Christian world one was funny.
I was like, I didn't know you go like that.
That's all, y'all just don't know ball then.
So I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
But he had one recently.
I felt like it was this year.
No, they said, no, they said while presenting the MVP
who wore a cheque toe, yoghurt to his face,
he felt shake, yo, just had a standard deserved it more.
Oh, damn.
You just tell me to go, I guess they were this shit.
Oh, no, the not even Mitchell one is crazy.
He said, you one of my favorite players,
but you don't have what it takes to get to the next level.
What?
No, that's backhand in his hand, bro.
That's not backhand.
That's directly.
Directly.
That's, I didn't know it was that bad.
I didn't know that.
I see what you mean.
He tried to get it up as you might be a player.
Well, they say two compliments in the end.
So then the end saw heard a little less.
But he ought to get on one.
And then the end saw was the worst.
Yeah, bro.
Shacka really watched you go get 40 and be like,
I don't think he actually be watching the shit, though.
When the playoffs come, which is kind of crazy,
because he's sitting in the room with
their only watch in that game.
I think they go back to their own individuals.
They do.
We walk it around.
We was literally there.
Yeah, we did.
I think they go back to their own individual green rooms
and snap to eat some snacks, get some food.
Kenya Ernie, we were watching.
Oh, yeah.
Ernie is the one that asked.
I mean, Kenny has to watch because he got a run to the screen.
I'd be thinking about that job.
How hard did it like, if we replace them, hypothetically.
Yeah, who is going to be the one that's talking about some,
hey, I need this clip for the second quarter,
because boy, that's a lot to remember.
I think our roles are pretty, I think I'm Ernie.
Yeah.
I think he's Kenny.
I think you're Shack.
And I think you're Berkeley.
I think that's how it would have been.
I think that's exactly where that's part of it.
I think it's the best thing at the draft.
Yes, I think you are, Ernie.
I think he is Shack.
I think he is Chuck.
You think so, too?
And I think I am Kenny based off these two,
when these two go at it, it is very Shack in Chuckish.
It is very, even if I say something to Mike,
and Mike deflates.
Would you like to listen to him?
It is very Shack in Chuckish.
I think you, you check because you're a little bit more,
you're way more volatile.
That's true.
That's true.
I think Kenny lowkey be sometimes okay
when not doing anything.
And I feel like that's what might be awesome.
Yes, I feel like Kenny always got to do the best of all talk.
Yeah, he'd do be inserting himself in the practice.
I could see Pierre going to the board.
He has to like, even when sometimes when they go off board,
he'll say something to Shack,
like, but Shack, come on man,
he just had 35.
My God.
They're like, no, are you playing with a king?
Right?
No, Kenny, you play with a king.
My favorite recent conversation with them is like,
there's people with rains and there's champions.
And then they look that Kenny.
It's like some people are going to get rings
and some of us are champions.
The Kenny's like, let me say,
let me fuck you for.
I want you one there.
What they wanted to do?
Not going down the drain.
Alex saw like Shack.
It said,
how you feel you to know one picking this draft
that they say is weak?
And I personally agree with them.
I think this draft class is fucking awful.
What do you think about it?
I forgot what he said.
He said.
He gave a good answer.
I think he said it was like,
I don't remember.
Then you have Chroma?
Yep.
I think you said it like gave him an extra chipmunk.
Who would drive it the other day had Chroma?
So it's fake.
Maybe he was in a Toyota.
So maybe he had the Chroma, but like,
I can't imagine.
It's a loose, loose.
Is he the fake or he ain't got his prioriates?
Or he got a really good tip?
Yeah, really good tip.
And he was the for that.
But he was, I'm like,
loose, loose.
And if anybody even like somebody that was art,
like he was an older dude.
And I had to like, I was like double checking
if it was chrome.
Like, you know, sometimes people have
like different brands that look some.
It was chrome.
It was a chrome hoodie.
I mean, it's part, I should have.
I like, you get a gift.
True.
Like Mike and my dude, my dude, that Mrs.
feels like a gift.
Speaking of gifts, Frank Mueller.
I did say I was going to bring you your gift today.
That's okay.
I know I have it.
Oh, my wife told me it's a bad gift.
I'll let you be the destiny.
That mean, uh, it's for the,
I thought I thought a woman was going to run in here.
The last five years,
what is some of your favorite album covers?
Of the last five years?
Maybe that's a load of questions.
Because there's so many albums.
I'm going to cheat a little bit.
I just bought, I just bought
an anniversary edition of MF Don't Food.
And it's a new cover.
That cover was cold.
I like arts cover.
Artie covers.
Do y'all like visas album?
Y'all remember the one?
Yes, Ganger.
Never listened to these.
Well,
the artists that did that
did a Kobe Pima boy.
And the reason why my wife said it's a bad gift,
because you have to have some place in your house.
I didn't get off, I don't know.
That's, that is not the right excuse.
I felt like you made somewhere to put that up in the house.
I, I haven't hung.
But it's like,
but I'm my hand.
For 70 reasons, you don't want to give somebody one poster.
You know what I mean?
So,
oh snap.
Whoa.
Oh, he did that one too.
Dang, my boy.
Appreciate you, thank you.
Now, those are cold, those are crazy.
It took everything in my power
and I have to keep that D-Rose and I ain't gonna lie.
I ain't gonna lie.
That D, that D-Rose on cold.
Because that's like a real portrait.
Yeah.
Like, like, look, look like him.
Can't even give him some cold gifts, man.
Shout out to VXMEE for Instagram.
Oh, Instagram, I don't know.
That's, that's his name.
Shout out to him.
That was a good question.
No, we might have to go back for that.
With the album covers?
Yeah.
Because that V's album cover is actually like,
it was really dope.
It's what it does though.
Dang.
I remember when we was in that drop.
We was in Atlanta.
That was the day after John Collins got traded
to the Utah Jazz.
Was it?
Yep.
That Ganger drop?
Or maybe not that Ganger drop
that Mike was listening to a really heavy.
Okay.
Maybe it came out a little while before that,
but I remember we were in the elevator
and Mike was listening to a bridge.
Yeah, because Mike was acting asleep.
I could've asked him if I could have V's.
I ain't this two yet.
I ain't this two yet.
You know, I have my young people for me.
And I know Bob, like on Kobe,
we put both of us on.
Yeah.
With that load of, you know, like, 18?
That's so funny, bro.
That was so, that was years ago.
He was coming at time.
I put that V's on.
Put that V's on.
He's like, bro, come on, bro.
I'm gonna get it.
Come on, he's created too.
He definitely is always your question.
I'd be like, who is this?
I think similar to Bob, like on Kobe and Kamari.
No.
I'm like, I'm gonna be mad to be like,
two or three years old, right?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
He got to be like, probably like, 24.
Hey, I can't.
Oh, he, I would just talk to him a few days ago.
Malamia Kobe?
Yeah, he checked into the stream.
That's going on your side.
That's out the bro.
I'll be saying this to him.
What's that?
Your P with the plugs there.
Oh, yeah, I thought you meant that one for me.
Oh, hell no.
It's coming home with me.
What's next thing?
Oh, we have, what team would we just talk about?
Oh, we said these are brackets.
What's his name?
V X M E E.
I don't know how you pronounce it.
Vamy, Vamy, because I think the X was V A A.
I'm going to have to find out about how to do this cover.
Next team is Denver, Nuggets.
Denver.
Are they going to be losing Peyton Watson this summer?
Mm, fortunately.
Talk about that game last night.
Don't talk about that game last night.
Oh, what they got.
Don't talk about that.
That was the back, the back.
You know, I said, you gotta make these things about the back.
They were shooting two of 25 from three at one point.
Bro, you just took like four threes back the back, the back,
wide open, just hoping one would fall.
Because anything inside of the arc, he was hidden.
As soon as he took that step out.
He got to the point, which is like, we just trying to make one.
I would take one taking some shots at his bite.
I feel like that's the third night in a row.
They're like the game that was supposed to be the most interesting was Oduh.
Yeah.
Like that pistons versus Spurs game and it'll be in Oduh.
And then there was one more before that that was like,
man, we so excited for this one and it was trash.
No, it was Celtics versus Hornets.
And this Hornets just spanked that out.
So like, I was so excited for this one.
Because this is like a really tough stretch for the Denver Nuggets schedule.
It was like, okay, got the Nixon town.
Nixon's ran right.
We did kind of.
I told you earlier, but they did get Aaron Gordon back.
Even though he was on a minister's section.
So let's say that Jason said himself.
He just came back and dunked.
He dunked.
Yeah, he dunked the deal.
Yeah, they.
I think he could be one of the biggest keys in terms of like getting
everything back on track, especially just on the defensive side.
He's one of the better like just smarter defenders that can rotate and help be the
backline of of defense.
It's harder to kind of pick on Yokech when Aaron Gordon does in the lineup.
They just know how to kind of make things work.
And then on the flip side too, the the non-Yokech minutes,
he's going to make those better again too.
Because he a lot of times he runs like the small ball five,
where he's mimicking a lot of stuff that Yokech does.
So I was actually surprised.
He did that for the first shift when Yokech went out.
It was Aaron Gordon to set a vow.
I think Val got shift three though.
He did eventually play.
But they they Katie Wenzion to call even mentioned like,
yeah, no value of the tunas in the second shift.
I was like, oh, yes, pretty notable.
They got to kind of refigure out their rotations after adding Aaron Gordon back in.
I mean, Aaron Gordon's on a minister's victory.
So at some point, I mean, complete off time.
It might be for Aaron Gordon at the end of five.
We see because we seem a Val could do in the post season.
Get you 20.
Get you 20 in the first half and I'll put you 20 in a blow out.
The thing I learned about the different nuggets is that when they're healthy,
this is the deepest nuggets thing we've seen in the Yokech era.
Like the fact that he went out with his injury and they was still a flow.
I think they were what won game over 500.
It's really impressive because they didn't look like a T&O
being able to do anything.
Like you mentioned, Zignaji played very well.
Jayden Pickett came in and played really well.
Paying lots and looks amazing.
So, Jayden Pickett won them a game, right?
Probably.
I think he had like a 30 point game.
He was getting bucket done.
We did about that.
Either way, they just need to get healthy.
The thing that I learned is that we've underrated time.
Even in the year, we don't like,
they could easily be somebody's favorite in one of the champions.
And I just think because of the shadow of the thunder,
off of their championship and how they started the year,
it kind of felt like the thunder's to lose.
But I think the nuggets, man, the nuggets are right there.
I, the spurs are obviously right there as well.
But the nuggets have kind of been underrated
throughout this process of figuring it.
Because they're doing all of this with the injuries.
If you can maintain without Aaron Gordon,
who's the hard and sole that is teaming my opinion,
paid and watched and stepped his game up.
And then you lost him.
You lost Yoke, when you lost Yoke,
you were supposed to like this team.
Supposed to still be trying to recover from the loss.
Losses they have after Yoke was out.
And the fact that they still were there yet,
I think they've kind of gone underrated,
even in the midst of us giving them the love.
I think it's even with the Cam Johnson pick up too.
He hasn't kind of replicated anything that MPJ would do.
So if you let him catch his footing and he starts to like really put it together.
They're trying to yesterday.
He closed the game in a blowout because they just wanted to try to get him somewhere.
They need to.
Sometimes I still question how much I trust that 20,
whatever ranked defense.
Mm-hmm.
Sometimes I sometimes I still just be like,
is this the year that it just don't work?
Yes, sure.
I do.
Because it's just unrealistic.
I think for me to for you to have bottom 20 defenses
and still consistently just make it to.
Yeah, I made a whole video about it last week.
It's the thing that's in the back of my head as well, Derek.
Yoke is just spoke on it and one of those, they lost to the next.
They had a TV game that gets the Lakers, right?
Yeah, they did.
And he was like, hey, they're a good team.
They could score.
But you know, we're able to score and get stops when it matters the most.
Yeah.
And so I always say too.
For these teams, I really can't.
And I have, I'm one of the people that have faith that they can turn it around.
It's just, I think they have too many smart guys, too many vets,
too many like pieces that can do it.
But I think when it comes playoff time, too, when the game slows down,
half court wise, they'll be fine.
And again, you just got to hope that you don't go to for 20, whatever from three
and give your defensive chance to get back.
Yeah.
The next scored so many points because they just got to rebound and ran down the court
before the nuggets we'd even get back.
And you could eventually just got to the point where Yoke is just too tired
to really do much at all.
So they have to really be able to kind of stop,
give defensive stops so they can soar the game a little bit down.
And also again, I think getting to the line to just give them,
give them as many breaks as possible.
And also it didn't help that they lost your mom Erie too.
Yes, that game.
Yeah, when he got a quarter out, we got a quarter out of him before he went out.
He was cooking too.
No, he was, he was on his way to probably having another big game.
Next team we got is the Los Angeles Lakers.
This is not a new thought.
Obviously, like I said, a lot of them are things.
I actually learned the things that are amplified.
It's just kind of amazing that out of all of the major sports,
you know, NFL, NBA, MLB, and I'll even add NHL in there.
How much one player can change?
Like, Miles Garrett is a top whatever player in the league
and his team's fucking suck.
But you add a guy like 77 on a team that's not well built.
It's like, we still going to be a playoff team regardless.
Like the amount that one singular person can hold responsibility for
and basketball is just astronomical compared to,
like, Shohei was on shit.
Angels teams for forever.
And he was the greatest player ever.
And it didn't, it didn't matter.
But in the NBA and my trial and my trial and the NBA,
you get one of the top 10 players.
You like guarantee to make a postseason as long as they're,
they're healthy, which is kind of crazy.
Yeah.
Yeah.
First good as they say.
First good as they have been this season.
And again, I think their record is a little bit better
than kind of what they played.
I think they still like, they lacked true identity and I just
consistently like they, they have the talent to be this.
But I look around at the roster and they have defenders who are okay.
But they're not absolute like defenders that you would want for the future.
They have shooters that are, we just picked up Kanar.
It was great.
But we have shooters that shoot like 30%.
You know, like we have shooters that struggle to shoot the ball.
We just don't have nothing to really hang our hat on on a night
into night basis.
I think one of the few things is we're going to get to that line.
Lake is a get they 20 plus free throws at night.
If you let them, but other than that, there's nothing we really
hang our hat on.
Yeah, for me was that they're going to regret giving Aiden that
player option.
Because next year, it would probably really love to walk away from that.
You think he takes the lead?
I think he's going to walk.
You think he's just going to walk?
To where though?
The market is, I don't think the market is going to give him
what is it eight million that he returned to that?
I don't know if the markets will give him eight million.
I mean, it probably will.
It's like he's the worst player of all time.
Right?
You're just not good.
Yeah.
But eight million dollars is not anything in the NBA for a four guy.
He's going to get picked up just because he need the center.
Like team need size, but a lot of the talk on him too is just because
the expectations were so high for this lake of team.
Because it's so it's a cakewalk.
Yeah, I see a quick comparison.
If you can't be successful here, then where can you be successful?
Yeah, yeah, that's kind of also why I was like,
shit, the market might not be that it might be draft ones where he has to take
that player option.
I see both sides.
Eight million dollars in the case of Deandre Aiden.
And I'm not saying it's in a disrespectful way to America.
It ain't shit to him.
Yeah.
If you still have a 38 million from your team,
if he having comments about with their trying to make him be,
just go somewhere with age is going to accept you.
And it will be a team who just needs a roster spot
that could get you.
I know a team that need to be.
And if you can keep getting Deandre Aiden.
I know a team that need to be.
How old is Deandre?
Well, I would cry.
27.
I don't even know if he's sweet.
Oh, he's saying draft classes, Lucas.
So that kind of makes sense.
Yeah, he's not 30 yet.
And you can get him for the low.
You might as well keep convincing yourself that he might go.
Oh, 27.
27.
37.
You can move it like 37, but 27.
Just keep convinced.
I mean, the lower you get him contractually,
the better he is as a player.
Yeah.
So you can get him on a minimum.
You got some going.
You get him on a two million dollar deal.
That was half the hype behind Deandre Aiden.
Is that male?
It was making 30 million.
Yeah, we got that man for eight million.
Eight million.
Eight million.
We could do that.
And you don't miss shots.
He just don't miss it.
If you accept who he is,
and you're not the Lakers,
and you don't put him as a starter,
you got something.
If you're bossing Celtics,
nah, Joe Mizzoula ain't going to be.
Yeah, that's what we're going to be.
Can you look at bars and here we go over here.
If you are Billy Donovan.
Yep.
And you can get him.
He is a prime Bulls target.
Since you got zero centers on the roster.
Yeah.
He's looking for tier two guys, team three guys.
He is a guy that the Bulls would definitely be interested in.
That should be disgusting.
I would agree.
I don't think I'm about to take it that year.
I ain't about to take it in a minute, Derek.
So I would open a night.
I would open a night.
You were opening a night, that shit?
Yep.
I guess the pistons.
Yep.
We won that game.
Yeah, we the best team in the century.
Fuck.
We beat the pistons.
And then we played them again.
They bust our ass in Detroit.
That was a game Cade and played.
And that's when Danish Jenkins was like 30.
Have we played them again?
I guess it's not important.
I don't know.
But I'm looking at some other team like, never mind.
I don't know about to put that on the Raptors.
I mean, they have, you know,
some center holes with Jacopult.
It was back being what it is.
But I don't want they don't want that either.
Is there a where would just Jacopult.
It just comes back 100 percent?
Well, he's been starting to let's go to play.
He's just don't move.
But Drew just ran ahead of move that he ain't even really do shit.
And Jacopult was like, stop.
So you're saying like next year, I'm in my recovery.
Yeah, maybe.
But tall dudes back injuries, uh, I am.
Let's not.
Would you rather have a tall dude with a back injury or tall dude with a foot injury?
Give me a tall dude with a back injury.
Tall dude with a foot injury.
He wouldn't even be playing.
Y'all mean couldn't even play.
You can, you can, you can just have it.
So I don't sound good at all.
Yeah.
If I had to pick it, we'd probably be back.
But it's, it's both for shit.
Yeah.
I'd rather have a big dude with a torn ACL recover than those two things.
Next scene we got is the Phoenix Sons.
Is that Jordan Ockin shift the coach?
He was a rookie coach coming here.
I didn't know what they expect from the Phoenix Sons.
And this team is over his chief significantly.
Mm-hmm.
I learned that second hand pieces are still valuable.
One man's trash is another man's treasure.
They have a team of guys that
everybody can, no, it felt like their team was just like,
we just, we need 15 players, right?
We had to get things back in the cabinet ran trade.
Mark Williams is out there.
Let's just go grab him.
We got some young guys that we had last year.
And it ended up being a really good team.
I think it's another team that,
another situation that shows patience is okay.
Because I remember they were saying book should chuck the do's to try to find a way to
detroit.
But I really like to see another win last night against the Pelican shot to
debuk.
I'm on your bumper because who did you have for what?
A men Thompson.
He got the over or the more.
He got the more he was hoping.
So we catch it.
I don't know if you realize.
I didn't hit yesterday.
It could flag a 1677.
Oh, so I'm yeah, he had a good start.
I'm on you.
I'm on I'm really on you.
That's a lot of season.
I'm on you.
It ain't that more season left.
It's really not.
It ain't that much.
A month?
No.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Like what?
Yeah.
Like a most just a straight mug because like April 14th 15th.
We're not doing a playoffs too.
I mean, I'm sure we have to.
But we don't we don't end our regular season.
Our leaderboard on the regular season.
I'm on you better.
We back for the playoffs.
We started.
Okay, okay.
I'm starting to end.
I'm starting to end.
I'm starting to end.
I'm trying to refine who's MVP.
I'm ready to say restart.
You made the playoffs though.
When you start with what you mean,
you don't make the playoffs.
You got a plan or something, huh?
You know how to play in?
Yeah, you got to go get Austin for picks
for you to get in.
He might beat you.
Oh, see, he already failed.
He said over.
Oh, yeah, check.
The thing I learned about is similar to more there.
Oh, somebody's talked about that younger coaches is the vibe, man.
You got to go get you a younger coach
that can really recess the things.
I feel like these these old dinosaurs they lose the locker room
because they're not relatable no more.
Doc Rivers is the the Billy Donovan's.
It's just hard to relate to those dudes.
You get the 33 row guy.
He could be in the league.
Okay.
Are they not relatable or have they not adjusted to the time?
A little bit of A and B.
Yeah, a little bit of both.
And Doc's case probably more not
adjusted because he was a play always going to be relatable
from that aspect.
But yeah,
side up to the sides even though
y'all saw about losing to the boys the other night, man.
Did I was a bad loss?
That's a bad, bad loss
because they was playing
Lackling Old Brick.
What's your favorite Lackling Old Brick moment this season, Derek?
Um, when he gave BAM a bucket,
you remember when we were talking about it in the group chat?
We did.
This is it.
I don't tell you from him right now.
Because I didn't remember that to you, Senator.
He gave us a nice little hook shot.
Hey, what drinks they
a lot.
He's called me slipping.
That's okay.
Next theme is the Golden State Warriors.
Hey, man, y'all in y'all with this.
The y'all feel like this is the last year Steve Kerr
going to be coaching.
Last year, if it's contract,
we've heard nothing about extension talks.
Yeah, probably.
The team is shit.
I was doing who goes and gets this job.
I don't think Ron Adams wanted at this point.
My god, I've heard they run Adams since 2k8.
He's always an assistant on it that you can go get.
But Ron Adams is on a coaching style.
I was just seeing him talking to Katie
in the Warriors versus Rockets game.
Billy is your job, man.
Billy, who?
Donovan.
I don't know.
I know publicly they have said that as long as Steph is here,
I won't go together.
But I just, I feel like you would have an extension already.
But maybe I'm just reading too much.
Yeah, I also think of that too.
That it ain't nothing because we know it's going to get done.
So it's like, my takeaway was that there was already like a slither of hope
for the Golden State Warriors.
But once Jimmy got hurt,
everything kind of went out the window.
Like, I,
Steph Curry could be at his kind of like playing at his peak
for what he can do for at his age right now.
But I just can't see him
getting past a couple rounds to get to the finals again
without another like co-star like Jimmy.
I learned that Bob Myers is a genius.
He evacuated the premise at the perfect time.
He knew exactly the exit route he had that plan.
And also learned that Steph Curry did more for this organization than we realized.
I know everything he did, but he even did more.
And, and for them to not,
because I think we get them a lot of credit that just came off the back of Steph Curry.
Man, they knew how to find talent and draft.
No, they didn't.
They did. Those things are just so good that
it was a certain point where Luke Wall could sit right there.
And they were still going to win games.
Ian Clark could get some minutes here.
It was going to win games.
Jordan Bale could come in and he was going to win some games.
But most spates, Dave West, John Livingston.
God bless you. Damn.
Patrick McCarrough.
Patrick McCarrough.
John Jordan Bale, Mr. Cascus.
I'm talking about just anybody.
I could have suited up and helped them with some games
because they was just that good.
And it made it look like the Warriors knew exactly what they was doing.
And they always had to answer.
And the minute that they didn't have the luxury of having these great overwhelming teams
off of the back of Steph Curry.
And it was time for them to really make moves and draft right.
Didn't do nothing, man.
Didn't do nothing.
My one thing was that they weren't willing to be aggressive
to capitalize on the Steph Curry window.
He was like, they kind of ruined the state pattern.
Whole day assets.
I feel like that was such a wrong thing to do too.
Trimmy and I got presents.
Yeah.
I mean, he said, yeah.
Yeah, they kind of did.
The Jimmy Bale was the best way to describe it.
Jimmy Bale was probably the best thing.
But even then it felt like it was a little bit too late.
It was too late.
Yeah.
It was just too late.
Only person that thought the Jimmy Bale was about to help them with the championship
was Jimmy Bale himself.
Jay Maid too.
Yeah, Jay Maid.
Yeah, yeah.
It was a good move, though.
They did look good at the last 20 games of the season after they got them.
And they beat the guard.
It's got to count for some.
Then they, they, Steph got hurt against the tip of wolves.
They could have, they could be having an unchampionship one for them.
No, I'm going to shut that there.
Where I had some worries fans telling me that no, no, that was not beating them teams.
Next thing we got is Los Angeles Clippers.
They got learned is that the few, the few young guys that they have an
roster between Kobe Sanders.
I'm going to count Jordan Miller, even though I think he's 26.
He's not an experienced, you know, with experience.
And then Yannick, Nida Kota, Yannick, Nida Houser, Kona, Nida Houser,
all of their younger guys are like real NBA players.
And that's, that's something I didn't expect coming into the season.
Get Wilson, Yannick, who's going to be out for the rest of the year with that
big fellow with a foot injury.
Big fellow.
Masters that they are going into another direction.
And it's the end of an era.
That's the same one for me too.
This team is a rebound team.
They just not, they haven't fully told you yet.
They just haven't, they didn't want to, I guess they probably don't want to
hurry and trade Kawaii to that line.
So they're probably just going to trade them.
If it was Paul George going back to L.A.
And then the pick, the 25th picking this year's draft,
which is the Jeremy Kane pick.
And then the two extra picks that the 76ers have.
Would that have been enough to trade away Kawaii in your opinion?
To the 60s.
To the sixers.
Oh, that was what was on the table from Deremore.
Oh, no, it was.
I'm turning that down.
I can get something better.
And also, I don't want Paul George's contract.
Yeah.
I didn't really do that.
You gave it to him because I didn't want to.
In a rebuild, that don't matter.
Yes, it do.
Really?
Yeah.
To me, it do.
All I want to be playing Paul George.
People buy their money all the time in the rebuild.
Yeah, I just, but for the Clippers standpoint,
we didn't want to pay him that money anyway.
So like, why would I trade for him?
I get what you saying.
I'm using the fact that it's Paul George.
I just had him on my team.
We just went through this.
He don't want to be here probably and, you know, we good.
We just, we offered that situation.
And Y'all dumbasses went and gave him what we told the world.
We wasn't going to give him.
So, you know, Y'all keep him.
We ain't bailing Y'all out of jail with that.
Yeah, maybe there was someone else.
I also think Paul George deal is what he got about two more years.
That's why I was going to be the only pushback is,
this is not the hole for you.
It's not the beginning contract.
It's only two years and that's a hefty two years.
It is.
This season, next season, and then the player option
on that third one.
He's taking that.
That's 56.
If it was, if it was just the two years,
I might have considered that player option now.
So, I mean, from now, it was basically two years
because he can't play the rest of the season anyway.
He's suspended.
I mean, he'll be back with three games left for the season
or whatever the number is.
10.
He'll be back.
Is it 10?
Yeah, because it was a 25 game suspension right here.
Reveal me to Package again.
It was Paul George.
You want me to do what?
He wants you to show him the package.
It was a package.
Paul George, the 25th pick, which is whatever he used to rock
and then the two extra first round picks it.
And I don't even know whether it takes off.
Oh, two extra first round.
But it's two extra sixes.
I would have thought about it.
I don't know where they're from.
I would have thought about it.
It can't be from OKC.
Oh, no, no.
The sixes do get OKC pick.
I would have thought about it.
I'm just going to give you all season.
What team is going to be?
I don't use word desperate, because go out
and learn his playing great.
Not desperate, but I think Detroit could rain that fall.
Yeah.
Some teams, a lot of teams that we call it for go out.
If New York comes up, show it now.
Hell of New York, I'm sure they'll make that for them.
Yeah, OG.
Welcome to the Clippers, baby.
Hmm.
Yeah, welcome, Andy Lou.
Oh, that's the name of her.
But I mean, we're not going to have all of those picks
that they could have just gave them.
So I don't know.
Oh, yeah.
You're invested all of that.
It's a kill.
Yeah.
Have you ever heard of Michael Jell at all this season?
No, I haven't heard.
I haven't heard of Michael Jell since he left Phoenix.
So you ain't here when he was on what he's doing
with the ball itself to play off.
Oh, well, he was offended, but I wouldn't say it was
Michael Jell.
Michael used to, in Phoenix, you should just give
a pose and guard as hell.
Not Brandon, England.
Well, Brandon England, I don't know.
How do you say Brandon, you're not missing him?
That's how juicy he was, and I wasn't there.
Brandon England got some styles.
Because Brandon England killed him in that playoffs.
That's it.
It happens to all of you.
Yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, go was hitting.
All those mid range jumps.
That's that series.
Oh, yeah.
I think we'll like 14 for 14 for a city.
The most efficient guard game in the history
of this sport happened in that series.
Maybe we should materialize it to something.
He probably also didn't have no turn over, super.
Thank you for glazing them.
I'm sure he had at least one free step.
One of the free styles at the S said at like CP three.
They can't win without losing because he won
and went to the finals and still lose.
I just never wanted him to hit that bar because I rock with CP3
But I don't like what seemed like you did. I hate on when you love them
All his Instagram is at this point, huh?
How his Instagram is just ads at this point shot to his son though. He said I'm
The two
What do you say? What was his caption? It was like I'm gonna I'm the second three. I'm the two three
Because he's like I was just to a cipher the other day his cipher
No, but you mentioned rap and then this came on my mind. It was one of them
On the radar, right? Yeah, they did a cipher like a underground up and coming rappers. Yeah, one of them do say it's up
Then I was like that shit. So he said they accused me of using three down two up three down two
He say
Man if I got shouldn't do it because it's gonna do this service to his bar
But he said they keep confusing me a user AI to write my bars
But I got this good because of practice like an Allen Iverson Artificial
But he in the flow it was like yeah, it was way better than that
But go watch that cuz this look they got a couple people that was on that spin
I mean they be having some decent boy name
Fuck
Brack
Chris Patrick. Oh Chris Patrick was on that might have actually been him who said that now I don't think about it
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's a Chris Patrick. We should go on there. Yeah, we should
Next time we got as a Portland trailblazer Mike. We have his aqua pause before you see you know you hosting the segment
Mike you got it
You got a field of energy to know when it's time to bar back in
Some we we got
Sometimes, you know, we'll be ready to start a conversation when we come back
Portland Trailblazer me school going to be going to somewhere. Oh damn shit
I said you as a guy saying he was supposed to start over shape
You know I learned that this is how you're saying get fucking healthy for once
Yeah, I mean you don't have to
Dear CEO unfortunately mine is very similar to yours. What is yours? That school is gonna be a pretty good second-team guy somewhere
What's that second team that their position is so could he be a clipper? No, I got dears girl. No
his second team
The Kings I thought about the Kings hurt her my exhale. That's because I looked at the Kings the Kings
Yeah, if Dallas don't get one of them guards in this year's draft. He's not going to Dallas, can true. Um come on now. I was gonna say Portland
It's tough because the everybody getting go the Wizards got a guard now. Yeah
Yeah, the Hawks have a guard
I'm a killer in Dyson. Yeah, when when the mavesill at Anthony Davis
I thought that like he could be one of the pieces in that per school to go to the Mavericks
But it's not it's not the Mavericks won't school Henderson. I can feel just because they're
Kyrie Irving exists. Y'all know that right
He can be barely behind you
Yeah, you can't you might be on a different team. You know you think they about to bring him back in plea
That's not no question that they pick up the phone somebody call for him. I think they would have just did it
He's a lot easier in the offseason. It ain't stopped the for doing Anthony Davis
What else rich for them
It was how you know you taught the rich
He said we don't want to be traded. It was we know we know how they just want to go to the fucking Wizards and the Dallas Mavericks
They were what was best for them so that they bully themselves that much then like they got bully
I know honestly that's kind of some shit. I would do you all right, babe. You want to get traded
We we go you gave us illness, but fuck you list. We go. We'll do as best for us
Wizards y'all want them all y'all try to you know package, but bet here you go. Yeah, I realized that people don't care about that
They should they should never have because I never should have in the back in the back of my mind
It's like okay, it's good for your PR if you send your player to the team that they want to go to because then players are going to remember
Oh, yeah, when Anthony Davis wanted to get traded to the heat we they turned to the heat so I fuck with them players don't care
Don't care. They just don't care. Do you have a bag? Yeah, that's really what you have a bag for me
Celtics y'all played Isaiah Stewart when he shouldn't I mean Isaiah times when he should have been playing y'all made him play on a bad
Hip after assisted that
Would you have a bag? Mm-hmm?
Did y'all think that I said time and stuff was bulgogi that stopped the Celtics from signing anybody?
No
People they don't yeah, they don't really so I know I never understand all the time I respect it from organizations like yeah
I'm just if you honest wants out and a box of like I'm gonna do with best you completely okay with the box if I'm getting the best straight that I need to I actually think they need to
Yeah, I think they need to now be kind of goofy if they just like I would feel like let's say the King's off into my ransom
Yeah, we are so sorry
We are so sorry, but we got to do this so you gonna accept heart that he tells your team because he want to go to New York
Yeah, fuck that you're just gonna hand him give for after them to the nicks. I just think you shouldn't put them in a situation that is
Not good for them like I like the plays did a good job with Dame because like he wanted what am I am
Because I knew y'all gonna say some shit
I knew y'all gonna say some shit
But like they didn't sit on my end. You need to go and take a class or how to get that live out of control
We need a camp specifically so the audience can see what that let me do it
Y'all got to say but like they didn't trade them to a situation. I was bad for yes
He got divorced and he was away from his kids for two years. What do you mean that shit sucked?
But no, he asked for a trail
But he didn't want to go to Milwaukee. They did they did exactly what we're saying we would do they got the best trade
But they sent them to the a fucking dog should organize. They took the best offer
Yeah, they so they would have if that best offer came from the booze
Damage would have been on the booze
Yeah, they didn't they didn't send him to Milwaukee because that's where he wanted to go
He did right if that was a logic. What did you say he wanted to go where to me Miami
Also didn't do him wrong by sending them
No, no, no, I don't think they did a wrong, but your argument is like they just do some of where you can still compete and I think
The argument is they got the packets back to it wasn't based off of the moral of you know what Dame
We want to do right back you but we also gonna get a fair package for the audience
That's just one of those rare situations where both sides got to get what they want, but if there was no
Milwaukee to send like if Milwaukee didn't have y'all this his ass was just a bit of an emin
Milwaukee and
I also think low-key Dame didn't want to get traded. It just felt like they had to
It felt like it was the last resort. It's like he had to move on because they started bringing in all the young players and everything like that
It was pressure. It felt like there was outside pressure for him to just kind of move on to yeah
We kind of we did tell him run from the grind Dame go go somewhere better and he went somewhere that was supposed to be better and
Now he back where it started how would you feel what if I was treated somewhere that was I
Wouldn't feel happy. I would feel like my order especially if like if I'm young as I brought them like they first championship and everything like
I would feel wrong. I feel like that's both of them
You feel entitled to them
But also we got to remember like the Kings are not going to call for Yannis. You know what I mean?
Yeah, but I'll even buy it for him if it's a team that's trying to compete at the end of the day
You're not sending him to Siberia. I don't know. I think the Kings will call you know what you fucking right
What's called beyond they call the Kings have called for everyone
The calling the calling really shit. They looking for a franchise saving piece
But they got him on the roster right now. I'm trying to think of who who got traded and it was like we are we over the care
But what were you going?
I'm Jerry Carolinko
Maybe he retired out that he got trade
No, I was away from Brooklyn to the six of you right he never came but he literally never came back to the NBA
He was 33 years ago. Yeah, TMZ video. Which one heaven is what hmm?
I wouldn't know the conversations recently just on some random shit. Why didn't he want to play for Philly?
I just didn't want to be traded. I don't think he want them. Actually, I don't know he probably was in Brooklyn and Jordan itself
God, I was a Utah so long come back to the NBA. You in Brooklyn probably was in Dumbo got money living life
I'm saying that figured out. Yeah, it's like I got a house about a house of Dumbo for two
Next to me God is this one of the hardest scenes we hear that's the good pacing that we like he immediately jumped in
One of the hardest scenes for me was the Memphis Grizzlies. Okay, let me see what I got in my nose
Oh, my eyes was
You don't see what I did right now just because I think we talked a lot about them so much as like
It wasn't it's hard to find something new I guess no what I learned about the Memphis Grizzlies
They're an organization that is not afraid
They're not winning organizations that will wait to us to late. That's exactly how said they ready to go into the next chapter
Like they didn't they didn't hesitate. They kind of just win it only you know getting for for Desmond
Three for Jiren. Yeah, I mean, I give you one
But the fact that you were able to break that trio up and you able to walk away with seven first round pigs and there's a lot of like
Pressure and they're mine, you know, John had figured though case he thunder out
They could have brought that whole team back for another year. Yeah, and and try to win it again
Get the two seed again. He did figured out mouth. He was a 40 on them boys. I learned that something that I already know that
That is crazy what that day was up 40 on that. I know there's a they was a big though
They was up almost 40 and lost they really was up 30
Yeah, yeah, and they lost that game when they were gonna look that day up because it was game. It was game four. I learned that
Maybe he did figure them out
We have I don't know it's like success ain't linear in every progression, but it kind of feel
They kind of made me sad that that team is not together no more
Because that was just a team that we had high hopes for it was just a team where they had Dylan Brooks Brandon Clark
Desmond Bay and John Moran Jaron Jackson
Ty is Jones gone to finish they had to swagger. They was tough. They was gritty like and now it's poof gone
Mm-hmm, and I feel like we'd be watching these teams and these young teams and it just be like they gonna be there
You like you to feel like that team is gonna be together. They were a two-seed that one
Yeah, you're seeing that they were right that was gonna be there for a while
But it's gone that fast. I guess I want to be a moves on fast is another thing
I want I want to give a kudos to the front office of being like we're not gonna just sit around just wait
We see that this team has a ceiling and it's kind of like shit. I want it's not just pulling the dirt
Then we know to say that right. I want to know if this team is still there if they was able to get I
Don't always blew my mind that Jimmy Butler was like nope don't want to go to Memphis because I feel like he was like the
Yeah in that situation unless he already knew I know well. He didn't have a hundred million for the world. Yeah. Yeah, he worries that a hundred
And for my sort of Phoenix
Time to Memphis every bill going to be fine. Yeah, Jaylen will said your car is that eating a bunch of things
GG Jackson Jay Devon small
KCP Walter Clayton June Walter Clayton June. Yeah, another pick this Taylor Hendrix
Maybe I yeah, I
Have put down for the Grizzly suit that
Jomeran's trade value kind of feels like it's in the same area. It's like Zion where it's like it's so much potential there
But it's also you know, it's not paying for that much
So you never want to give them away for just dirt cheap
But then again is like this but their value was kind of like set
Just because they so injury prone and they so many they so depending on how the lettuce does
I know because I am this playing good this year. Yeah, it's really good. I just don't think a team is gonna give you a boatload of picks one
No, but as the as the pelicans
I don't think you should be looking for a boatload of picks if you decide to go there out
Yeah, because at this point you get your picks from trademark free. You could probably get a first for the debate
It would kind of be like the job Jayren Jackson when you got
Desmond Bain and yeah in
Jerry's the pick Avenue you just don't you just don't want to break even with Zion. Just give me a pick. Yeah, you'll give me a pick or something
Next thing we got is the Dallas Mavericks
Um
That Jason Jason kid for all the ups and downs of this coach your career. Let me know you're doing a lot of the times
First first part of the season so much criticism about Cooper flag and I have a new car and then now we see
Four months later
I feel like it's just ball handling in general has improved throughout the regular season
I think a lot of that goes from Jason kids putting the ball in the stands very early
I think this I've learned that this team. I don't think it's as bad as they look at all at all
A lot of close losses, which is a good. I wish Anthony Davis and clutch could just stuck it out a little bit
Because next year depending on the pick to think like I think this is gonna be a fun team to watch
Grow I mean, it's really fun watching Cooper flag
Is really depending on who they get in this draft class, but you got carry you still got gaffer
You got PJ watch the nods your marshals fun as able to watch clay max crispy is having a really good year
Clay time the last did he have like a
Late time. I think he got one more year right now. That's slated with the seventh best arts in the slur
And if I ran one tank of thorn
They ended with number nine dang two drops. Yeah, you might get
It made a man. You might get a little bit on fire line in the original if they stay at seven
Tank of thorn got them getting eight cuff at seven. That I would have made that. I didn't play top of the stage is something
That's a good question. We are
That's a good question. I can I can't I can't I feel like he's the type of guy that wants to compete or I think this career
I think he's made from Texas. I think like Dallas or maybe yeah, I think he might stay he might stay
I think he's just chilling to be honest. I think he's just like getting shots. Yeah
These fourth all time in three years now
Yeah, they're gladly. We'll be back next year. I really like this team. Uh me too
Uh for them, I had put that Cooper flag is so good and whatever incoming draft pick
It's not gonna make them forget
But I it might make some Dallas maverick fans start getting over what happened
This is like Cooper flag has been every bit of the hype that you don't need to then they're already a little bit angle
It's Lucas. So it's like you want to feel hesitant, but I feel you
Yeah, they'll never be able to completely turn the page, but like eventually the grief grief and got it in and you got to start new
The other thing too is they it ain't like the Lakers is
60 and that's helping to run away with the western coffers. Yeah, he did have a 44 last night though
Yeah, nothing with uh Luca. Oh, he gone. Yeah, what do you have like 27 in the first quarter? He's killing he gone
Get his point. I love me some luke
Talk to him about that then I'll let me some luke too. Well lower knows a clip a clip comes out. He won't be playing
Clip come out people think you anti-luka because you think she's better
I can't lie about that. Yeah, what they was saying. God forbid. I say he the third best player in the world said to the second
What the third what was they saying? I didn't even see the I mean they were just in the only conversation just like we were
So it wasn't nothing too crazy, but more people was mad that yeah y'all said that versus us saying. Oh, I don't know
I was only reading for the shit about me
It's all Instagram for the go-to Instagram in Twitter
Uh for me it was that they were able to find some diamonds in a rough with Brandon Williams and Ryan them hard
Yeah, Brandon was really good now. Yeah 13 points per game or so three of those guys were undrafted too
I love me some brand new Williams
Uh next thing we got is the new Orleans Pelicans. I learned that sometimes getting your guy
The price can't still be too high
Dear queen was their guy boy did they fucking pay for you know and
I'm not saying it's gonna set their franchise back because who the hell knows how good dear queen could potentially be one day
But every time you look at this tankathon
We were stay commented on me saying damn is the most celebrated player
They said they said agreed
If I run the tankathon and yet they got the six picks seventh pick
like this
There's a lot of game left. So maybe they end up you know, winning some more and then they end up with the ninth pick
I said to the six pick but
We really talked at large about that trade
One of the craziest funniest and then not so funny things that happened was that Stephen A Smith Pelican shit
Um, y'all know what I'm talking about
Which is so great because he did like a full six minute bit on first take and in my mind
I'm saying this is funny because he he's not talking to anybody other than some social media person
You know what I mean? Yeah, but then it becomes unfunny
When he says like um
They gonna get back on track. I just trust Joe do Mars like did you see the trade Joe do Mars's
It's like oh shit, man. I just love the video that they show what
But I want you to understand
The brother can ball the first three seconds of video had me dead because he said by the way
I'm yadda yadda and then by the way he did by the way twice like three seconds
This is the number one show. It's such a bad. This is bad. I just think it's bad
We're 10 straight years for the number one show to be talking to the pelican social media person in the middle of a tv show for seven minutes
But I'll remind you I started off in Philadelphia 76 is
Right and covering Ellen Iverson who
pound for pound one of the greatest scores took Kobe Bryant and Shaquille O'Neal to the finals in one game
One on the roll where he stepped over a guy. I respect tremendously in Tyrone lewd. Don't get it under the misunderstood
I love me some Tyrone lewd, but damn it. Iverson stepping over him was not only a moment in NBA
But it was a cultural moment and God rest his soul the Kobe Bryant because that boy responded like no
Hey
One thing about Steve and his wife he's gonna put it. He's gonna give you credit. He was out to give you credit
He's gonna turn something that could be 36. That's the two minutes
My he definitely brother was putting up 327 and seven on a bad back
Tell Spike leader clav about that. Yeah, he's going to hold a whole difference and it's his tangent game need to be studied
Now the way he could kind of build that anticipation. You know how often he's on. He's got his own podcast every day
And then he's got the political show. You kind of need runtime. You kind of just have to feel time
You know what one thing I heard radio shows every day every two hours a day one thing that like hit him to his core that he didn't like
Well went to rail ounces on ass. They I mean come on Steve and they it's like max coming up like
Oh, yeah, that was the core brother. That's that that that definitely hurt that definitely hurt that definitely
I used to love those two but I'm good because max coloring max coloring won't you know he hit
We'd be like because Steve and I compare
Kobe and Shaq beef you remember that scene in a wire season three episode seven and Steve and they like yeah, I guess like
Yeah, I remember you like Marlowe said we going up on a brick. That's what the link is I do
What are you talking about right now? Remember that song the DMX head where he was taking some criminals
That is what she gives us out of that. I'm like bro max you like rap music. We get it brother
On his recent episode he compared himself to Isaac Newton. Oh, Max Kellerman and what way? I don't remember
I just sound good. Y'all are making sound like it made
Y'all ever heard a rap no no, I don't think so. You never heard max coloring the rap. No. Yeah, it got a music video when he was real younger
All the boxes. Oh wow. Oh, we're good. We get you back and I'm like he was rapping like that like
He's on the M&M type of like this like that like that
Just because he's white. He got the M&M. No, but I tell you when he got in the booth. He was not afraid
What these last things fucking suck Mike. Let's let's run through these next team
Episode what I learned about Utah jazz is that Mike was very early to the party and fucking right about Keonte George
Yes, he was the guy's an absolute stunt and hopefully he continues to get better and better and better because they don't need him
To go to the next level if they don't turn into a playing team or play off team next season. I learned that they have a plan
I used to think that this thing was just just in the just just doing whatever
Hey, that's just but it seemed like they actually got a plan. It without a guy jaren jackson
The front court of him larry marketing and walk a cousin with the emergence of Keonte George Ace Bailey has looked good relatively recently
They got they got a plan. They got some type of idea what they want to do
And it's it's fun to see these teams that we've got accustomed to being at the bottom actually show promise and show a certain direction
Because that's all I've been asking for and I wasn't I wasn't thinking we was going to get that this year that that jaren jackson moves surprised me
Yeah, yeah, mine was
They don't wait long team
Why are you breathing?
You don't have to read the wrong thing
Hey, you read it too. It's not even new book for you
They knew how to give what they want without giving up anything of value
Like those picks they trade up a jaren those really those weren't their picks
And only took then he ain't seven seasons to actually get some shit. They're like the definition of wait
Down until you come up like
They didn't finally had like their the breakout season with Keonte there some other stuff and I like you finally make them move
Down until you come up stay down until you come up
Oh, stay down stay down. You said wait down. Yeah
I'm about to say stay down if I didn't make it some
But anyways like you come up
Now that they have finally found some young people uh players that they like
They did buy in like y'all say because there was a time where I just felt like they was only doing business transactions
Every time you see the jazz do a trade it was just like
They helped facility trade for a second round pick. They're helping them. They're just pushing a pick away
They weren't actually being progressive of what they brought in
Yeah, it's so funny
I think you said laughing at the stay down to you come up
No, I'm not I'm not
It's it's it's some it's some it's some deep shit
It's this deep shit
KB said my let's plot the DC
Yeah, but Mike I feel like he got his most talkative on the jazz
That's my that's my second team
Oh, for yeah, you know, I got a way out of my work. Yeah, this is second team
Who they played this last game? They played against uh
Hmm, hey, they played the Wiz it's covered nice. Yeah, that's his second team. I mean he got to watch him
Oh, I think that's exactly what they suck right now. He just claiming them. Oh, yeah, how about so what's the coach?
You bogg your tail. We are hardy
Now you boggish. What's the GM name?
What's your owner name?
The GM you need to know what's the GM name
That's uh warmer Celtics
Just said it six seconds ago then yeah, yeah, that ain't his thing and then Ryan Smith is the owner
I didn't know Ryan Smith, but I do know Danny. I only know him because it's the most generic name at all
Ryan Smith. Yeah, they just good with his name. Give me the name he might not be real
Lasting Sacramento Kings guess what I learned about the Kings my absolutely nothing
I think you got to watch the team to learn something from him
I learned that Russell West because an amazing leader. Yes. Uh, I love the interview. We had a good meeting
I don't know what he was talking about
He was asking with what was going on
But for him it was confronted them for shit that they said about the organization
But they was asking for like what specific part he was like you know
No, my favorite part is some dude did say something
Is like y'all the worst team in the league and Russell's like yep. Yeah
But he was fine like did you expect us to win a championship this year?
Nobody really expected it. We basically did another version of soap
Yeah
Was it a failure or Michael Jordan?
Did it win a championship for the first seven years of his career?
It was as funny when he had that was that a box or a purse
It looked like one of the balls for a year. No, they took put your phone in so you don't
Be on your phone. Yeah, but he got like a watch out of it
But no, I think that was definitely like a bag, but it was it was a little special
I had to be expensive. I was just not in this man. 10,000 dollars. He's not in the right tax bracket to know
Anybody else Kings? Yeah, I learned that
The Kings
Have a lot of more work to do
I don't even know if I learned that
I'm gonna give something
I learned that they you know, they fan base show up
I think they do the fact that they get people in that building
But no, I and all seriousness
They have something
Maxine right now, and I like yes, Nick Clifford. I like yes, I even did a car was
He's gonna be one of y'all he's gonna turn into one of your favorite players
Dylan Carboh
Yeah, yeah, okay, I will wait. We'll see. Um, I like him. So I guess just a defense just defense
I like effort got effort big, so I can see that maybe but yeah, they got they got something
They just need this draft to deliver. Yeah, I mean, we don't see even Jinzo play for them. Yes, very quick
Very quick. That was the first thing after the books if I'm not mistaken
Yeah, they should remember one bogged down by Donovan's play for now. He was cold with the team. I remember he had yeah
He had like a 30-something point. I guess y'all where he spoiled
Lanzo's game when it's shot because he hit his own game when I was on my shooters him in Chandler Parsons
That's one of Parsons Houston rocket shot for the logo. Yeah
Yeah, it's all 15 West teams. I'm so happy we split it up because
Damn if we have 15 more teams
But we'll have to next 15 on Tuesday, right? Let's go. That's the goal. Yeah, there's the goal
shout-out to Mike
Month left in the season of real I'm so ready for playoffs
Me too play out time is definitely gonna be fun, man
That's that's definitely like I need a team for this playoffs
The nicks everybody got a team you got your lakers. You got the mix. You got the next two
If I didn't speak it, they can be your team. Oh, no, you know that's my team. That is you know that's my
I would just see if I could wait. I want if I'm gonna take it to escape me
That's your team too. Oh, I you're gonna use the big one of the I know I know I'm a
Fan that's a rooting for the Timberwells for I was guy. I'm definitely going to go for Tim. I might be the Tim was Vouches on a contender
Kobe White is on a contender and I was on a contender and having heard her is on a contender
Yeah, I heard her is on a contender
Yeah, I'm not the one who's on a contender. Kobe White on a contender. Yeah, I don't like it. Yeah, they got either. Yeah, where's Ann? I go
I'm all in those are your boys. Yeah
And Dalyntary plays for the 76ers. Vesy at the guy wave. Nope. He's he I saw tunnel fifth the other day
They still there
Play for the magic. I'm playing
I'm gonna play out this year, man
See how to pick which one that you want to actually get minutes man
That's that's just like the dopest shit out. You y'all see that palo ben carol shit. No, they lost the game
Something in my mostly. I'm guessing. Oh, yeah, I can see it, but I think there's the they relationship is like broken
Yes, they lost again those shots at exactly Jamal and then Jamal through shots at Apollo post game interview
Palo say the reason why we lost because other teams are just at halftime. We don't really adjust. Oh, I see it. And then Jamal Mosey say
Yeah, I just play hard to y'all
It's like oh shit. Yeah, he said he also said sometimes you don't need to make a judge
You just got to play harder. Yeah, I thought he said something about pants might 50 mean
All he did one of them and I gonna be the next east
You know the organization I would the coach. Yeah, they should pick they should pick palo over Jamal mostly for sure
Y'all see those true suit numbers between him and Kate
No, but I've seen
I just know they nasty though like they're both bad or like K. Did he hello now has a higher true shooting this season the cake on the hand
He had he did pick it up though for a little bit like it feel like when Kate have babes. They're like real bad
But like when he's real good, they're like fucking really good, you know
But these days just using a Rick Ross
Empowerment mean y'all know something. Yeah, I know exactly what you're talking about. Okay
It's like this one isn't harassment versus empowering. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I mean
Kate seems to know best team in the conference. Yeah, of course
I know it's like the
They take difficult sides, but then their cane has to
Pala will settle it's some of those different. I think he has to treat just sucks out of
Oh, well, he was good at it before. Yes, he has been he's having a baby. That's why you can't give up hope
Completely. I'll idea. I just never understood that you have a patient with guys. You know, he's a worse man
Where he jumps you to the season?
Group that Kate. No, this was win horse who said that we have a guy on a $20 million contract
And a head coach at open odds with each other is not in the shadows anymore. It's wide out into the open. So yeah
Somebody's they got to figure that out
Maybe they got to figure that out which I've been on which which was on yesterday
Shit chillin. I was um
You getting close and close to your wedding
Oh, yeah, we officially in March. So what is it two weeks away? I mean two two two months away
It's early May right or the late May middle May 17 May 17
Um, I was thinking about maybe going golfing that morning with y'all. I don't know because it is it's at a golf it's by a golf course
Yeah, that's no baby. We went to that golf course. Yeah, we did we have yeah
Yeah, as we hear that incredible shot and we couldn't find the ball until before we left
Yeah, and it ended up being right outside the
um
The greens
I have no idea what you're talking about but we me you us three in Terence. Yeah. Yeah, that's crazy
Terence. They'll be talking about that
You know inviting my son. Hey, I will be down
I'll be a hundred percent down to play some golf that day
Yeah, good way. Yeah, that's a good way to start off your yeah, bro. Let's go play some fucking golf
That's the that's the golf course we had to cigars. Oh, okay. Yes, okay. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah
Yeah, I remember that.
That first tee is so much pressure,
because the whole clubhouse was right there watching.
Yeah.
And those cigars actually they had tasted good too.
Yeah, those some cuscars.
Yeah, we had bought them right there.
They had everything.
They had the cigars.
They had a couple of clienty.
They had almost some cigars there.
Yeah, no idea.
Yeah, they had a little whole little cigar section.
I mean, you can get through.
We need to go somewhere.
Y'all know who Cass Holland is?
No.
Cass Holland is a golf cart girl.
Yes, yes.
We only play 9's, we don't play 18's.
Are you somewhere with the golf carts?
Yeah.
That's how I was going to say.
I don't know if I'm going to be able to do it.
We got golf carts, but we need the golf girl cart
that pull up there.
Pull up if you would drink a long island iced tea.
And she we we be buying the drinks.
But like having somebody that can make them and do it.
That's the difference.
But we we haven't been to a club, right?
We go to a pub like and then we haven't played the 18 holes
because that's a full time day.
Terrence says, he said that's a full day commitment.
Yeah, it really is.
Especially depending on the pace of play for the other people.
You might be out there for a full time.
I would have had a push-set.
Sometimes it depends on the people in front of you.
How fast you're going to get through it.
That's how you try to get into a conversation.
Punch-set.
Yeah.
I hate going to push-set and you get behind like a big ass family.
That's what I'm supposed to do.
We were the big ass group.
Remember we went on like a gazillion.
But maybe nice sometimes I'll be like, you can go ahead of us.
That's what we do at the golf course.
Because it's y'all out there.
It's two dudes really out there trying to grind.
Go ahead, just getting in front of us.
We take our time.
We laugh in that each other's swings.
We do those three balls just hold.
They're going to look for a ball.
They're going to look for a ball.
They're going to look for a ball.
He's shot clocking.
He know that thing is down with a lot of bounds.
He's just still going to go look and look.
The one we played in Lumbar, I remember you hit a ball
about a water and you spent like five minutes.
I'm like, bro, it's probably in the water.
But you're just looking around the edges the whole time.
Because when I see, I hit it so far,
but it looked like it landed in bounds.
And I was like, I know it landed in bounds,
but I couldn't find it.
Real life in the AI shot trackers.
Yeah.
They got those.
They do?
Not AI, but they definitely got the smart balls.
Don't you feel like that might change the trajectory
of there's something in the ball that's tracking it?
Probably.
Do you feel that same way about the basketballs?
When I had the stuff in it.
I've never shot the basketball with a tracker in it.
Personally, so I don't know.
Do you think there's stuff in basketball that's tracking them?
I don't know.
They have tracking stuff like that.
Where it counts your makes and misses.
Just through the ball.
I don't know if it's the ball or it's,
I'm pretty sure they do that.
The hornet has something that's in the rim.
It was in the rims.
I didn't even know the trajectory of my shot.
How it hit the rim and everything.
Everything.
Stuff that I couldn't even understand.
Every shot I'd say was keeping track of every shot.
I know sometimes the shooting guns do that.
They have advances and do that.
Yeah.
I never knew if any balls haven't anything in them that track them.
I'm pretty sure you can almost, you don't even,
you can just buy one.
I think they're called auto checkers or something.
That's 75.
That's one of my favorite ones.
We ain't been out there in a minute.
I'm selling 5th field.
Oh, of course.
Yeah.
It's a, it's SmartBass ball.
Feasters, a sensor that checks makes misses,
wishes, releases, angles, spin rate, shot location.
Yeah.
Both indoor and outdoor.
Sure.
That's, I don't even know that that's just what I could get.
That's like a $500 basketball.
I managed to make take the shit out of the wire.
130 bucks.
I'm willing to spoil them.
I'll spoil them.
See, I can get something with similar features
from Spalding for 130 bucks.
Spalding ball sock.
You know the funny thing is, you don't need all of it.
You just get all of it.
You need to get your sponsorships, by the way.
You just don't, you just don't need that.
Something this right here on the set is a Spalding.
Yeah.
They also sponsored NBA, they can't suck.
Well, I mean, we play when we was at the bulls arena
and they are just the grip on them.
Well, that's just an NBA ball.
Yeah, you just not used to it.
I don't mean to suck.
You're all on them.
I'm so used to the classic Wilson that war.
He's talking about the like the door we use at lifetime.
We're all the cushion.
Bro, they not for you.
Imagine they use that ball in the NBA.
I don't even know.
I feel like there's the difference between that ball
and that ball without that cushion is like nine day.
When I see him throw that ball.
I could damn their palm the Wilson ball in my hands or my hands
or not.
Well, Kawajas fly.
He was in hands.
Tell you feel about DJ Morgan Trader?
It hurt a little bit.
We got a second round.
Why?
We did get it too.
Why?
What you love so much about these?
I don't even want to disrespect DJ Moore.
Wow.
He was good with us.
Yeah.
He helped shift the culture.
He was crazy.
He was cool.
But he wasn't a guy where they traded the game.
Game when it touched down to beat the Packers.
I don't know.
We got a two out of it.
That's what I'm saying.
Yeah, we got a second round pick.
So I'm happy.
And we got other like, you know,
like our receiver room was at.
So like it was just like damn DJ going,
but it's it kind of hurts.
I don't understand NFL cap stuff.
I just feel like all the best players begin moving around
so often.
People get waved.
That's the thing I don't understand.
Like a play with like players get traded for draft picks.
That's understandable.
But when you turn on and it's just like, yeah, they cut.
Just somebody that was really good.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, we got cut.
It's like starting quarterback.
We don't do that in basketball.
You know, you just getting cut, bro.
But that's the time.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Nazareth product.
Yeah, I drove past there a little while ago.
I was like, damn, Jay-Zen McCarthy used to play it.
That would be crazy.
We're gonna give up on him after one year of starting.
See, he's been injured for the first official year
and then he was injured a bunch last year too.
And then he sucked in every other game.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
And then Kyler, you'd only have to pay him the minimum
because he's getting paid 30 million from the other team.
Yeah.
I don't know.
It would kill his confidence.
You probably can never go back to him.
That's maybe what they think of.
Yeah.
But...
Yeah, man.
Exciting shit, still.
Baseball season here.
Baseball seasons here.
What was the first game?
No beat of show comes out next week.
The first game is probably...
Well, like a...
They started in April, right?
Got to be like a month away because they...
Open and day is...
World Baseball Classic.
March 25th.
Damn.
Is this...
Yeah.
Baseball players don't need a break.
They gonna leave World Baseball Classic
and get right to it.
Who in the Giants?
Yanks.
What about the White Sucks?
What day for his game?
Remember when it's open and day?
It gets the Giants.
And we was outside trying to get in.
And all we was hearing was...
Yeah.
And Kopeck was giving a booty.
Opening day for us is against the Brewers.
Is it at home, though?
March 26th.
It's not at home.
It's in Milwaukee.
So our home opener is probably the next series, I guess.
I'm not...
Shout out to the White Sucks.
What about the Cubs opening?
I'm not.
You know what I'm saying?
If we're going to games, it's gotta be a Cubs game.
Unless the White Sucks have us out.
Everybody here's a White Sucks fan.
The Chicago Cubs.
I thought it first pitch.
I would love to see you throw a baseball.
Am I the birthday gatherin'?
I had the Miracame jersey.
Huh?
I had the Miracame jersey.
It was my birthday gatherin' yesterday.
It was hidden.
I might get the...
What's the kid name?
Roach?
Roach?
The first overall pick from this year?
Yeah.
Might get him a jersey.
Custom?
Yeah.
I just don't know what number he would get in the big leagues.
He said his eighth home run of the year yesterday.
They had a colson Montgomery in there.
Colson Montgomery turned up.
I was like, I ain't on the head.
I like that.
Yeah.
The Cubs, home opening, Thursday, March 26 against the Washington
Nation was at one.
We would be here.
We would have to come here, do a Thursday morning, and get...
Yeah, I'm okay with not going to the opener,
but we can get to a couple games.
Christian are gonna be like...
Who's that?
James Wood?
Christian are gonna be like...
I got two shorts.
I want to do...
Yeah.
They're gonna get y'all out of here.
Yeah, man.
Yeah, we got to have a fight Christian in Austin
to the game, too.
Yeah, they live in Austin.
They live close, though.
I don't remember.
You came to a game with us?
No, I don't think everyone's here.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, they live right there.
Yeah.
Are you in the area, so she is?
Easy looking, you.
Yeah.
Hey.
It's another episode of...
Numbers on the board.
Yeah, I'll make sure y'all enjoy y'all.
We can't get y'all some rest.
And we'll be right back in a couple of days.
We got a small ball on Monday.
We back here with Numbers on the board on Tuesday.
Wednesday.
You know it's teed up.
And then the rest of the week is nothing but Numbers on board.
All week.
Get ready.
Marge Madness is around the corner.
I need y'all dialed and locked in.
My money on Mike this year, out of y'all three
if no one was going on.
Might be hitting the group chat like,
Hey, man.
We've been early to the party for sure.
Hey, man.
So, do y'all do diligence before the diligence do y'all?
You understand what I'm talking about?
I understand.
We're going.
That's your father.
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