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In this episode, we analyze OpenAI's latest image model and its implications for creators. We also discuss the concerns raised by an Anthropic researcher regarding AI risks.
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And there's some cool AI features that are going to be in there that I think a lot of people are going to be interested in. One of the things, and they'll be rolling this out more broadly by just moving with the iPhone 18, is that Apple has something called reference image features. And this is to help basically fight AI fakes. I'll get into all of that on the podcast today. Opening AI has added something called sketch 2.5 to the new chat GPT image 2.5. So they have a new image model that came out and they have a cool feature called sketch. I was testing it out today. Opening AI also claims that they have solved Navier Stokes. This is a, you know, there's like a million dollar prize for this math problem. There's a lot of drama in here. I don't even want to get into all of it, but it's kind of hilarious to me. And Throphic had a researcher named Jacob Coxston who quit, went viral on X this morning. I saw he had over 400,000 likes on his post saying he quit. And Throphic because I, he believed that the AI model was going to kill everyone in the world or had the potential to kill all of humanity. So this to say the least had even more drama in it.
We also have Suno that just released V.6. Their model, it was all trained on licensed music because they have so many copyright suits, more drama there. Guys, I'm not joking. This is just a wild day for tech. We also have a bunch of hackers that are draining clawed subscribers token allowances because they're basically getting your password and they're just draining all of your tokens from your account. We also have Meta that has launched a Muse, which is a personal AI agent built on a security first pitch. I signed up for it today and I'm not going to lie. I'm kind of excited for Meta. I think that they're pulling out some interesting new technology and I'm excited for all of that. I also wanted to mention if you haven't already, if you'd let the access to over 90 of the top AI models in the world, you need to go check out AIbox.ai. That's my own startup. We have an MCP connector. So basically it's a connector that lets every single AI model in the world work inside of any other AI model. All of these AI companies notoriously hate each other. You have Sam Altman and Adario at the big summit in India
and then everyone's holding hands and bowing because it's a big tech summit and they're another person's country. And they refuse to hold hands. These people hate each other, Elon and Sam Altman to say the least also hate each other. So if you, they're never going to work with each other, they're going to let their models work with each other. But if you want to have all of the different AI models working together, go check out the AIbox MCP. That lets, you know, we have the brand new image model coming out of chat GPT. You're going to be able to use that to generate images inside of Claude or if you have something like 11 labs that you use for generating audio, you can generate all of that inside of Claude, especially for something like Claude, which is a pretty good model, but it doesn't do any of the image audio or video generations or even opening I that's killing their Sora video model. If you want to generate videos inside of opening I work, you can go and get Google V03 to generate them. So anyways, all the models work together. It's only, it's less than $9 a month to get started. And we have a bunch of tiers where you can get access to a ton of really cool stuff, AIbox.ai, linked in the description. Okay, let's talk about Apple first because I think this is an interesting tool
that they've rolled out to kind of fight against fakes. Apple just announced something called reference images, they have kind of this is tied to their iPhone 18 Pro launch. Basically what it's going to do is it is going to capture signed sensor data. So the moment that you take a photo, it's going to capture that, it's going to route it through private cloud compute. So Apple's compute and it's going to produce an unalterable image. Apple is adopting the synth ID standard to help users detect AI generated or AI altered images. This is something that I think opening I and Google have also been working with. The iPhone 18 Pro is going to have an 84 megapixel fusion main camera featuring a variable aperture built from six laser cut blades each thinner than a human hair. So Apple, you'll get, we're going to get into all the drama today. There's like, andthropics researcher says it's going to kill all of humanity. Open AI apparently is stealing everyone's math research. And we have Apple that just said, hey, look, we made a better camera and it's going to be harder to deep pick. So Apple doing pretty good right now.
Reference image is also going to start inside of the, inside of the photos app. There's going to be an API coming for third party developers as well. So other people are going to be able to use this as well, which is going to be interesting. So we'll keep up with that. And then I just have one meme to share if you're watching the video version of this because we do share this. Someone posted a meme of the new Apple folding, the Apple Duo iPhone Duo with the folding screen. And basically, there's a feature on it where it has the main screen that you can see. And then there's a little screen on the back side of it as well. It's kind of like there's two screens on this thing. But the way selfies work with this is if you're taking a picture for someone, they can actually see themselves on the back of the phone. And they could tell you to adjust how you're taking the picture. And someone said, this is going to destroy relationships. It's over. Boyfriends are cooked, nukes from orbit, toasted, fried. Basically because the boyfriends taking a picture of the girlfriend, and she's telling them how to adjust the camera because she can see into the selfie screen on the front. And so he's adjusting it. And inevitably, he is still going to take the picture wrong,
even with her telling him how to adjust it. So anyways, that's pretty funny to me. So opening it has now added or has launched image 2.5. This is a really impressive model. I've been playing with it today. One of the coolest features on here, besides, OK, I'll just like the quick rundown on it is that I think they're going to start competing directly with Canva. They have these things called templates built into it. So it's like, if you generate a logo, it's like, has these pop-up sorts, like do you want to do want to see what this looks like on a t-shirt on a mug, on a hat? There's like all these different templates and all these different styles and all these different posters and things you can generate. And it gives you ideas. I think they're going straight after Canva with all of this. OK, one of the cool features they rolled out, though, was called Sketch. And I was playing with it today. Essentially, what you do is you say, just at symbol, say, at Sketch. And once that happens, there is a little drop pad that comes up for me. I went and kind of doodled a little guy holding a microphone in a red chair with a purple background. And I said, generate image of this. I kind of explained what was in my image.
And it went ahead and generated an image, which was exactly like I had requested. It's perfect. The thing that I like about this is sometimes when you're doing a prompt, I do, I'll will admit I do like taking a reference image. So I'll screenshot an image I like and say, make an image like this, but it has that in this. And I tell it like some of the things that should be changed on it. This is really cool because you can just do doodled. If you don't have a screenshot, just an idea in your mind, you can do that. And opening, I actually had some really good recommendations and examples of like when this would become really useful. One thing that they showed is like if you just doodled like a picture of the garden in your backyard. And or maybe you're like, I'm trying to like redo my garden. And so you do like a doodle where you, they had one where it was like you doodle the pool and you kind of doodled everything that you wanted to be inside of your garden. And then it was able to generate, first of all, it generated like a top-down view of that specific garden. So it's like, look, this is what your garden could look like with like a pool and your umbrellas and all your stuff.
And then it actually went and generated like a ultra realistic photo from like, you know, just the perspective of someone standing there. So anyways, if you had an idea and you doodled it out, it could help you with all sorts of schematics and all sorts of angles of this photo generated all sorts of ways. I love this feature. I think this is very cool. I think it's like opening as image generator is one of just the most sticky features. It's why I never left OpenAI. I went to Claude for like six months heavy with Claude code and with Claude code work. And I never was able to get rid of my subscription to OpenAI because I always needed image generation done. And so I think by investing in it, adding new features and new models, they're doing an incredible job. Like no hype, OpenAI's image generator in my opinion is the best. I'm never, I'm sorry, Google, I've never been very impressed with Nano Banana. I think there's a lot of hype around it. It never be OpenAI in my opinion. So now that they have this new model, they're just kind of doubling down there and good on them, good work. Okay, and Throphic researcher named Jacob Coxden has quit and he warns that labs are quote gambling with our lives.
So Coxin spent three years on pre-training at OpenAI and Anthropic and then he said that people building the tech privately believe it could kill everyone by 2030. So count down, we have less than four years left to live before AI takes over. Now, I've actually seen some really interesting conspiracy theories about this particular post. The main concept for all of them is basically the same. And that's that this is a pretty complex regulatory capture move where essentially you can, or essentially Anthropic or someone is paying to have maybe he was sincere in his like leaving, but his post was very quickly amplified. So this is basically someone that has zero followers, zero, like history posting on X before today. And as soon as he posted to you immediately had a whole bunch of people that lead like AI regulatory companies retweeting him and reposting within like 20 minutes. And so this kind of helped the post blow up, get a lot of notoriety. And so a lot of people are saying that it is,
just people amplifying it because they want to regulate AI into oblivion, but in the conspiracy theory around one of the things that someone said about this was, before he ever made the post, he went to the Wall Street Journal and had them write, I believe, like an article on an op-ed about this. And after it launched, then he tweeted. So it was like coordinated and he's obviously working with the press. So some people believe it's more sophisticated because it's kind of a quote unquote random. He said, this is his tweet, which was kind of a threat. But the first thing said, the people building AI earnestly believed that it could kill all of us by the end of the decade. This is not a marketing stunt. If anything, many executives and senior researchers will coach their phrasing in the press to sound sensible. But I hear the same people express fear privately. No other human activity poses this level of threat. So in the, oh yeah. And I guess the main tweet he said was, I resigned from anthropic today. I spent the last three years building, or the last three years doing pre-training research at both Open AI and athropic, neither company is acting responsibly. They are racing straight to self-improving superintelligence and gambling with our lives, more thoughts below.
Anyways, then he kind of goes on the list and is like, look, like maybe anthropics are doing something, but there's nothing that they're, you know, they don't really have a plan for recursive superintelligence self-improving. And then everyone's just saying that anthropic has the absolute worst PR strategy of all time. But maybe it's a genius. I don't know. Then Evan Hubinger, who still currently works on alignment science, he's the alignment science lead at anthropic, he responded to Jacob's post. And he said, Jacob is correct here with an M-dash. I don't know if he's using AI to respond, but I mean, I would guess yes. But maybe some people are mad at me saying that M-dashes are normal. Anyways, he said, Jacob is correct here. We really do earnestly believe AI could kill all humans' exclamation point. I personally think it is less than 10% within the next decade. I believe anthropic is trying its best, but we do not yet have a plan to solve alignment for superintelligences and are not clearly on track too. Like, okay, awesome. So the guy in charge of this says, yeah, I think it's, you know, there's some percent chance
that within the next decade AI could kill all humans and anthropic is doing its best, but we don't actually have a plan to solve it. So that was a pretty wild response. Someone below that said, is this a sponsor tweet for that artificial film? And anyways, yeah, there's a lot of drama going on to say the least about all of this. Most of the comments on Jacob's original post are some version of not really taking him seriously if I'm being honest. And then there's a lot of people that just are sort of AI doomers that are hyping it up. Anyways, a lot of people are screenshotting. I don't know if you remember, but there was a moment where back in 2022, a guy named Blake Lehman said that, said that system has perception of the ability to express thoughts and feelings equivalent to a human child that said Google engineer was put on leave after saying AI chat pot had become sentient. So anyways, if you guys all remember that, that was kind of a wild moment from 2022. Feels like it was longer ago, but some people are saying the kind of reminds them
of that guy. And some people are saying terminator wasn't a movie. It was a prophetic documentary. Honestly, this is pretty overhyped, but he's at 620,000 likes right now. So perhaps we are all on track to die in the next couple years, pretty wild claim. Okay, Suno is launching their V6 model. I love Suno, I've used it a ton. It's a lot of fun. And I've released a few albums with it, some of which make me hundreds of dollars a month from AI Generative Music. My most famous one that I always tell people about is I have relaxing piano music to help your cat fall asleep. That album makes me $600 a month and it's just AI generated. It's actually like AI generated, it's not slop. It's just relaxing piano music. It sounds great. It's funny how I marketed it. It did really well. And a lot of people just add it to their playlist to play to their cat. So cats apparently love AI Generative Music. And I'm not even apologizing because, you know, if they love it, they love it. Now, one thing that I'll say is the problem with that music
and everything else, which Suno takes the full liability for, so it's not my problem, but Suno trained all of their previous models on licensed music. They just trained in all the music that existed in the world and all of the record labels sued them. You had Warner, BMG, believe, Sony and Universal. And so they decided to train their brand new model. And by the way, here's like my very contrary intake that I think also a lot of people would be mad about because this goes for Suno and basically everyone else. They trained it on everything. They got in trouble. They made licensing deals with the distributors. But in the meantime, their company and brand grew a ton. Maybe they wouldn't find enough money or wouldn't be able to get permission before. But they're brand grew a ton and now they were able to pay, right? Because they've raised over 819 million dollars. They're able to pay off all of these fines. They're able to pay for licensing. And now they're able to train a model with actual licensed music. Now, there's a lot of different takes on this. I've been using AI music generators for like 10 plus years, I think at this point.
Yeah, about 10 years. And so way before Chattachipate ever came out, there's been a bunch of music generator models. I don't know what those early ones were using. They weren't that great, but someone were okay. They weren't horrible. It was pretty fun back in the day. Anyways, with this new model, it's all licensed data. I think that's fantastic. This is what we've seen everyone else do. You get a model, you get it big, you get some revenue, you prove the concept, and then you go pay everybody out. Should you have paid everyone out ahead of time? Maybe, but if the model wasn't proven, it's kind of hard. They wouldn't have had the money to do it. So anyways, that's another argument. This release is gonna happen in three tiers. So they have V6, which is paid, they have V6 wild, which is paid and experimental. And then they have V6 mini, which is free. All of the older sooner models are gonna be retired. And the reason is because the data licensing issue, sooner has raised all of that money. And they obviously have all these lawsuits going on. This launch is on the same day, or just one day after soon, we'll admit it to training earlier models on YouTube videos. So beyond just all the music, they actually went to YouTube videos, which is a huge no-no.
But to be fair, opening I never admitted to training Sora, their video model on YouTube, although I kind of wonder if that might maybe partially why they shut it down. But Miriam Muradio, when she was questioned by the New York Times and asked Point Blank, did you train the opening I Sora video model on YouTube? She kind of just like, shied away from the topic. And it was like one of those famously awkward moments where she didn't want to, didn't want to answer the question basically. So we get the opening I probably also did that. Okay, hackers are draining cloud subscriber token allowances with stolen sessions and through up it confirmed that InfoCealer malware is hijacking cloud code OAuth tokens. OneMex user watched usage climb from 45% to 55% while doing no work. And so he's like, what's going on? Why are my tokens disappearing? People are hacking in and just using tokens to do certain projects. And Therapeutic confirmed this. And there is a separate users that reported their usage jumping from zero to 49% in 12 minutes after only a couple of prompts and a web search. And Therapeutic suspended the affected accounts.
They invalidated all of the sessions and they issued a partial refund. One user received 44 pounds, further 200 dollar a month subscription. Account support tracks, account support tracks total usage, but not itemized usage, meaning token theft could run undetected for months, right? It honestly reminds me of all of the people that were doing like music body infarms where they would steal a whole bunch of people's Spotify passwords. They would just get them on the dark web because they're usually you could get a, you know, whatever. So they'd steal them from the dark web and they would log into a whole bunch of random people's Spotify accounts randomly and just play their own song over and over again. And then they would log out and it was really hard to track and Spotify spent a lot of time in money and eventually kind of cracked down on the whole scheme and I think a lot of people doing it illegally might have went to prison or some, I don't know, different things, depending on how nefarious all of the body and kind of fraud went. But this reminds me a lot of that. It's the same idea. You get maybe combo lists from the dark web, you steal a whole bunch of people's account tokens and passwords, you log in,
just get a couple things done or maybe if they have an API, you log in and use a few tokens and then you log out and do then, you know, maybe they'll hardly notice. Now, my last complaint of the day in regards to all of this which has absolutely nothing to do with that because this was completely legal. No one hacked me is that today I ask, or I ask Chattchipotee Astrid, so they're GPT-6 model. I put on the absolute highest usage tier, right, the highest thinking capability. And I asked it to go and review my website and give me some good ideas for some good ideas to, you know, review and make the branding and the visuals on my website better. And over the course of two minutes that it worked for, it burnt through 90 per, or I think actually 80 per, all my tokens for the entire week. So do not touch Astrid-6 on the absolute Ultra Max tier with a six foot pole. That's my advice to the wise, if you're worried about your token usage. Unless you're at the end of the week
and you gotta use it quick before it resets or you have one really big problem. I don't know, like I just, I'm so blown away that in two minutes it could use 80% of my tokens. I'm super annoyed by that. I'm in my Chattchipotee account and they do have a very cool feature which huge shout out to Chattchipotee for adding. And by the way, Clouds got the same problem. With Cloud though, you basically get locked out of your account with Chattchipotee. They say you are now using Luma, a faster model for simpler tasks. Use your reset or buy a reset for $80 to continue using the most advanced models or wait for it to reset after and then it has my reset date. So basically they switch you on to like one of their most, I don't know, basic models. You can get basic tasks done. So personally, I'm actually very happy about that because at least they're not completely shutting off my account. Just, yeah, switch me to one of the terrible models and it can sort of do some stuff for me. If I have, if I'm in a pinch, actually I have a second cloud account that I'll probably be using for a lot of stuff in the meantime, but overall, yeah, good pros and cons to that. Okay, really quickly wrapping up,
we got to talk about what Meta has launched a, this is MUSE, it's a personal AI agent built on a security first pitch, the super intelligence lab product ships on iOS Android and WhatsApp, it has Stripe checkout and a $300,000 bug bounty ceiling. So if you go find bugs, they're actually paying you for it, which I think is genius on their part. The paid tier is for people that are paying $20 a month and they have a $100 a month tier and a free tier. And of course, all of those is usage based. They said that you get about $130,000 for a single user prompt injections. So like they're just paying you to red team this thing. If you can use it, get it to do something bad, they'll pay you $130,000. That's a pretty awesome deal in my opinion. Checkouts, and the reason why they're doing this is because they're adding payments into it. They partner with Stripe, they have checkouts that run through Stripes link, single use card numbers, one password and shop pay integrations are all underway, they're working all on all that. So what all this means is that you can go to MUSE and say, hey, I need to go, I wanna talk about for lunch,
go and order it for me. And it has access to your Stripe account, it will go get everything ready, it'll have a pop-up that's like, do you confirm spending $14 on this burrito and drink from Taco Bell? You click yes and it gets shipped straight to your door with DoorDash. I personally love this. I mean, it's a big bet. I know it's a gamble, I know it's risky. I mean, opening an eye and a thropper are not doing this direct Stripe integration where it can buy stuff for you. But I think number one is smart for Stripe because they're gonna get some good volume here. They're gonna prove this concept. It's almost like there's insurance because opening an eye is like offering $130,000 for prompt injections. So, you know, I mean, that's a massive bounty program. They'll pay you a lot of money if you can hack this thing. And so a lot of people will try to hack it. They'll solve a lot of problems. And yeah, they're gonna get access to be able to tell your AI model to go buy things for you. And you gotta approve it and give it permission. Muse is powered by Meta's in-house Muse Spark model and it's shipped by a Meta Super Intelligence Lab, which actually came about about a year ago. So, I know some people have probably freaked out about this one. I think it's kinda cool.
I'm excited for it and we'll see how well Meta's Muse works. I tried signing up for it today and it went on log and after I got through all the senate process, it kind of crashed on me. They said they're having really wild, really like a ton of traffic on it right now. And I think if I was over on next earlier today, I think I saw that they had made a post that it was like number three in the app store, or something like that. So, it's obviously going pretty crazy. A lot of people are using it. Thanks so much for tuning into the podcast, guys. Leave a rating or review if you wouldn't mind on the show. If you haven't already on Apple, it helps the show a ton in the algorithm on Spotify as well. I appreciate all the reviews I read them all. Go check out aibox.ai if you wanna be able to work with all of the different AI models inside of all of the different AI tools that you already use with the connector. Or there's one chat thread on chat. If you need to, you can talk to every AI model, audio, video, image in the same thread, switch between them all. It's amazing. Go check it out. I'll see you guys all in the next episode. This is Rick Burgers from The Rick Burgers Show.
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