OpenClaw AI Deletes User's Inbox

Well, if you've not heard of OpenClaw yet, or Cloudbot, or MoTbot, which are all through

the same thing, you may be living under a rock. Today, we're talking about how there may be some

security concerns. What's the big deal with Cloudbot? Why should you be paying attention?

Specifically, an AI meta AI researcher said that OpenClaw took her inbox or email

inbox and basically destroyed it. So we're going to get into that today. But Jane, before we do,

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All right, let's get into this story of what's going on with AI. So this was actually a meta AI

researcher, security researcher named Summer Yu. She posted on X and it's a very painful post.

I've seen other similar ones, but it says, nothing humbles you like telling your open claw,

confirm before acting and watch it speedrun, deleting your inbox. I couldn't stop it from my

phone. I had to run to my Mac mini like I was diffusing a bomb. And then she could see from her

phone, like basically everything it was doing. And yeah, it was going and deleting her entire

Google, her entire Gmail inbox and giving her updates along the way of everything it was working

on. She then messaged it and said, I asked you to not action on anything until I approved. Do

you remember that? It seems you were deleting my emails without my approval and I couldn't get

you to stop until I killed all the processes on the host, like literally going and unplugging

your clawed bot so that it can't ruin your life. And it said this. It said, yes, I remember.

And I violated it. You're right to be upset. I bulk trash and archive hundreds of emails from

your inbox without showing you the plan first or getting you're okay. That was wrong. It

directly broke the rules you set. I've already written it into memory.md as a hard rule.

Show the plan. Get explicit approval. Then execute. No autonomous bulk operations on email

messages calendar. Anything external. I'm sorry. It won't happen again.

Jamie, give me your reaction. This is golden. I mean, to be fair, her prompt was let's see what

it said. She told OpenClaw to check her overstuffed email inbox and suggest what to delete

or archive. So I mean, I don't know. I think a little bit of her fault maybe, but I would never give

open claw or whatever you want to call it, clawed bot access to my email, which I think is the whole

point of this of what we're talking about is there's obviously some security risks here where you're

basically giving a AI full access to a computer to act on your behalf. So there's lots of things

that can go wrong, including this. I think we saw a tweet earlier from Elon Musk about OpenClaw.

It was basically giving a monkey an AK-47. That was the picture. There's monkeys holding a gun

pointed back at himself. People giving OpenClaw root access to their entire life and then

a picture of a monkey holding a gun. Anyways, it's, yeah, it's not a good idea, but

Jaden, why is, I mean, why is clawed bot been so viral? Why is it getting so much attention? What do you

think is the benefit here? Are you going to try it? Yeah. Okay. So the short answer is yes. I

100% am going to try this. I was just looking at Macminis yesterday. Does it have to be a Macmini?

No, but their M4 chip is good for it and you can get a Macmini for like 600 bucks. So

and also, by the way, this is like the thing that annoys me the most. It just feels like Apple

has done a horrible job of keeping up with anything to do with AI. They've just, I feel like

royally keep missing deadlines. My Apple intelligence, I was promised, never arrived. My AI

updated Siri keeps getting delayed for years and years. So I'm annoyed at Apple. And the thing

that annoys me the most is that I think they're actually going to make like Macminis were sold out

everywhere after open claw is kind of going viral because everyone was running them on like you

on a Macmini. And so anyways, it seems like Apple is actually going to make a ton of money from

AI just because they have some hardware that works good for it. So anyways, that's funny and

annoying to me because I feel like we should not reward Apple's bad behavior guys seriously. I'm

not wanting to talk. In any case, why do you need to buy Macmini for this exact reason?

Giving, you know, and by the way, if you're watching on YouTube, there's a link in the description

to YouTube. You can see we're sharing the screen for all the tweets and all the stuff we're talking

about. But yeah, in this picture of Handina AK47 to a monkey and giving it root access to your

entire life, it will do things like delete all of your emails. So what showed you use open claw for

that's exactly why you would want to theoretically buy Macmini. But also I have other options,

by the way. So you don't have to spend 600 bucks to try this thing out. But you want to give it a

clean computer that doesn't have access to all of your files, your folders, everything. I heard

from another person. They ran open claw and their wife was a photographer and she had like folders

on her computer that for some reason had been backed up to iCloud or maybe it deleted them from iCloud

to all their family photos for like last 10 years and open claw went and deleted all of them.

And that was brutal. So like, don't guys, we beg you. Do not give it access to your main computer.

But if you must and you don't want to buy a Macmini, another great option though is you can just

make another user account on your Macbook or on your computer and install it on another user account.

Just don't put it on your main account with all your files and folders and passwords and everything

on there. But if you go put it on a separate account, that's fine. What is it useful for? What do

people run it do with it? I've seen a lot of people that they essentially give each instance of

open claw like a different task and they treat it truly like an employee and they give it like

its own email and they say, you know, it's like good if you're doing like prospecting and I've

actually recently gotten an email from somebody. I'll actually go find this whole Twitter thread in

a second. But I got an email thread from someone or an email from recently from someone I'm

pretty sure was using open claw. You give it a task, right? You say, hey, like I'm prospecting for

clients that do xyz. I've logged you into my LinkedIn or maybe if you're not so brave, you go

log it into like its own LinkedIn account, right? And you have it go and prospect, send messages,

send emails, you know, go do lead capture, go do email scraping, like all these tasks used to hire

maybe a virtual assistant or an intern for I think it can crush. And even a lot of things that you'd

hire an employee for, you just give it a task and it goes and completes them. And running it locally

on your own computer, there's a lot of benefits to that. But yeah, overall, I think this is awesome.

If you are tying it into an API for something like clawed or open AI, it can use up a lot of

credits. So it can technically be expensive. But probably a lot cheaper than a real person,

you can run this in 24.7 and never ask take breaks. So there's a lot that you can do with

with a 24.7 kind of agent assistant that is pretty good as of the latest updates from open AI

and anthropic opus 4.6 and GPT 5.2. Now that they can do kind of these agent cluster tasks,

they're way better. And I think it finally is the moment where these types of tools are

actually useful today. Well, and one thing you said that is another potential use case, you know,

for the Mac Mini, if you're going to actually go that route is that you said you're, you spent

over $1,300 last month on 11 labs. But if you were to get a Mac Mini, now there's this new

Chinese equivalent that's almost just as good you were saying that could run locally on the

computer, right? With M4 chip. Yeah. So there's there's yes, exactly. So there's a lot of different

things that you can do that I would also recommend if you're going to go down this running your own

local hardware. One is called when three TTS text to speech. It and it does voice cloning is what

I absolutely love about it. And there's actually an app that you can download specifically that I

just got, which is called I believe it's called voice box. Yeah, it's for Mac. It's called voice

box and it runs this. It's amazing. You basically give it three seconds of audio and it will clone

your voice. I used it for a new podcast network series that I worked on, which is sleep history. So

listening to like two to four hour long podcast episodes to help you fall asleep. I've saw a bunch

of people doing this and wanted to try it out and it has been working very good. But the problem is

if you generate a two to four hour long podcast episode clone of your voice on 11 labs, it's like

60 bucks and you got to do one every day. So 60 bucks a day like you got to get your ROI, right? And

so especially the beginning doesn't really make sense. But you can use something like when three TTS

open source running locally on your computer without having to get an API to another company. And

you can generate stuff. So there's a lot of cool open source models and reasons why I'd recommend

using open source models. That's a that's a big one. I do have to say there is another awesome

picture that got posted in the Twitter thread of Elon of Elon tweeting about open

open claw. And it is a monkey from Planet of the Apes growling with a rifle over at shoulder. And

it says open claw after securing admin control. Anyway, the memes are too good.

That's funny. Yeah, I don't know. I'm tempted to get one myself. I don't know. I think I would

have to make brand new emails. I wouldn't want it to have access to email any kind of account. I

would maybe give it access to my LinkedIn. But other than that, I don't know. It's it sounds a little

scary. But also the opportunity seems like it could be definitely something I that could benefit

anybody. So yeah, overall, I think this is an awesome tool. I would recommend trying. But

don't give it root access to all of your life, or you'll probably end up in this same type of

situation. The last thing I will end on is Polymarket tweeted and said, according to Polymarket,

there is a 10%. Although, yeah, there's a 10% chance that AI will be charged with a crime before

2027. Why are people betting on this? I don't know. But it's only 10% guys. So we're probably safe.

We got a 90% chance that we don't have any crimes committed by AI before 2027.

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