Oprah Profits From "No Contact Trend", Hollywood's Attack on Masculinity, and Kylie Jenner Pushes Cigarettes

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So we have a jam pack show today, okay?

We're gonna start off the show by talking about Oprah, okay?

The Oprah apocalypse, the Oprah apocalypse is still here.

Oprah is pushing this whole no-contact trend,

sort of this estrangement we're seeing in families,

but there's also a lot of information coming out

about how people are cutting off family members due to politics.

I think this is always left to right.

Democrats are always cutting off their Republican conservative,

even their independent libertarian family members.

So we'll break all of that down.

We have some testimonies, we have some clips, we will play you.

And then we have a special guest coming on later in the show

to talk about how masculinity is under attack in our culture.

I really believe there's a war on masculinity.

The left, they like to call masculinity toxic.

If a guy sits too comfortably, he's man spreading.

If he explains something, he's man-splaining,

there's always this negative lean to everything

about being a man in modern society.

And so we're gonna break all of that down.

What type of guy are women looking for today?

Do they want the big, strong, strapping guy?

Do they want the scrawny little Timothy Shalamey kind of guy?

So we'll break all of that down

to what it means psychologically, ontologically, physiologically.

I'm running out of words here.

I'm sorry, not taking the SATs this morning.

I also have to say, we're filming this episode a little bit earlier

than we normally would.

By the time you watch this, are the airports gonna be better?

The videos I'm still seeing from all of these airports are horrendous.

I know so many of you are on spring break.

You're going on spring break soon.

What is going on?

If the Democrats do not fund the Department of Homeland Security

and get these TSA lines moving,

I'm sorry, your party is gonna continue going down the tubes

because this is bringing people together across the aisles.

Everyone hates traveling, okay?

Everyone hates dealing with the airports.

God bless the people who work at the airports, but we all hate it, okay?

Except when I get pulled aside for a very thorough pat down, okay?

Some physical intimacy, you know what I'm getting?

But no, we all hate air travel.

And I understand more and more now why my brother will drive across the country

and his big pickup truck.

We used to say my brother was crazy.

For years, we're like, he's gonna drive all the way to Florida and his truck.

But now you see the airports, the lines are five hours long, thousands of people.

And so hopefully by the time you watch this, the airports will be better.

But my guess is they might still be a calamity.

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Well, we have to start off by talking about Oprah, one of the most insufferable women in modern times.

Okay, people used to love Oprah.

I think she was in 48 million homes every single day according to her.

And people would love her. They would tune in.

They would watch. She would tell compelling stories.

She's basically become this desperate hack and she's doing her podcast on YouTube,

which I find interesting first and foremost because she has an entire television network.

She has the Oprah Winfrey network own network.

You can tell that network has gone down the tubes because she's not even doing her show on there.

She's doing it on YouTube.

I think the only thing they have on that network now is like Tyler Perry or Medea or you know,

Medea goes to jail. I don't think they're doing any real good programming on the own network.

But Oprah, there is an episode of Oprah's podcast.

You guys have sent to me hundreds of times and it is the no contact episode.

And what this episode is about.

It's about children and parents too who have cut off family members due to

estrangement, due to political differences, due to trauma.

The kids feel maybe they were mistreated by the parent and they said,

you know what, I'm going to cut you off and not talk to you ever again.

And so this whole no contact trend, as Oprah called it,

has become a huge lightning rod of conversation online.

I want to play you a quick clip from the episode.

I have been no contact with my entire family for a year and a half now.

No contact.

No contact.

Not a phone call, not a text, not anything.

Nothing.

For a year and a half now, okay.

Chris, how about you?

It's been four years since I've had contact with my parents and my siblings.

Four years.

Not a word.

Not a word.

Okay.

And Kendall.

I've been no contact with my 30 year old son for two years.

By your choice.

By choice.

Okay.

So this has caused a stir online.

I will give you guys my unvarnished take.

I think it is okay to cut off a family member if they have mistreated you time and time again.

If there's a pattern, if you've tried to reconcile the relationship, it's not getting better.

It's okay to walk away from any kind of relationship.

And it doesn't have to be a full period on the sentence.

Sometimes you walk away for six months, a year, five years,

and you can find your way back together after there's some growth,

after there's some evolution.

But my thing about Oprah is this.

She has spent decades on television and now on the internet,

exploiting people's pain and trauma for entertainment.

Oprah is not some family person, right?

Oprah is not a family woman.

To be honest, she has no family of her own.

The only real close family and friends that she has are Gail,

in Stedman, and let's be honest, they're kind of on her payroll.

Okay. Gail is her best friend.

Gail's career has benefited tremendously from being tied at the hip to Oprah.

Stedman, I don't know where he is, but he's also benefited from being close to Oprah.

She doesn't really have any family.

So for decades, when she does these episodes on her shows,

and she exploits people's family's trauma for years,

it just leaves me feeling a little bit sick.

Okay. And makes me a little bit sick, because I remember back on the Oprah Winfrey show,

it'd be like, oh, come on out, your husband is gay.

And it might be totally traumatic and horrible for the family,

but it's great for her ratings.

And they would sit around and plot all of this out.

And Oprah would act nice on camera.

And oh, she doesn't know what she's doing.

The second that camera's off, she's probably not even talking to you.

So Oprah has built her career off of people's pains.

If everybody got along, right?

Everybody got along, she wouldn't have a show, right?

She wouldn't have this no-contact show or a strange man if people were singing Kumbaya.

And then Oprah, I saw a clip of her.

She talked about how two out of five Gen Zs are in therapy.

And she thought that was a great thing.

I think that's odd.

I think it is odd that two out of five young people are in therapy.

And when it comes to the no-contact trend,

there are kids who are mistreated by their parents who do cut off their parents.

But I do think there are some young people,

if I'm going to be honest, who do a little bit of revisionist history.

And let me tell you what I mean.

They revise history a little bit because as they get older,

they think things were so much worse than they actually are.

I mean, I know someone personally, right?

He had the best mom in the world, right?

Loved his mom.

Everything was great.

He went to college, went to a very liberal school.

A lot of the indoctrination they talk about, you know,

the family unit.

Of course, the family unit is under attack here in our country.

Now he's decided his mom is a narcissist.

He hates his mom.

And he doesn't even talk to her.

And we're all scratching our heads going,

okay, so you go to college, you grow up.

And you now look back on your childhood and think your mom is a narcissist.

You guys had a great relationship.

So I do think there are some young people.

Yes, you should cut off that parent who mistreated you,

abused you, couldn't get their lives together.

But then there are some parents who are great.

And the kid still decides to kick you to the curb.

And so for Oprah, I wish you could give a more nuanced take.

But for her in terms of getting viewership and ratings,

she's happy.

She is so happy these families are being torn apart.

She's happy that parents are cutting off kids.

And kids are cutting off parents.

Oprah does not benefit if people are happy and singing kumbaya.

She benefits and has for decades when people are in pain.

And one of the main reasons we see in our culture,

people cutting off family members and friends,

and having these estranged relationships.

One of the main reasons is politics, right?

And we found this article yesterday.

There were 24 different instances

where Democrats have cut off Republican family members.

And it's always the Democrats who do this.

I'm just going to be honest.

The party of love and acceptance and diversity and DEI,

they're always the ones who cut off their Republicans.

You guys say you love diversity,

but not diversity of thought.

And this has happened in my own life, right?

I'm not going to get all, you know, Sally, Jesse, Raphael here.

But this has happened in my own life, right?

I've had family members and friends stop talking to me

because I don't identify with the Democrat party anymore

because I did not go out and vote for Kamala Harris.

I've had family and friends not talk to me.

Say horrible things right nasty things on my social media,

but you've got to kind of let it wash off.

But it's always the left.

It's always these establishment liberals

who sit around watching MSNBC

and they say they accept everyone,

but they don't accept you if you happen to vote red.

Or even if you're just independent, they don't like you either.

And I want to read you some of these quotes.

These are testimonies from people who have cut off

their conservative family members.

This is an anonymous 38-year-old female.

It was pretty easy as I don't wish to associate

with racist, misogynistic, homophobic,

and transphobic idiots who only care about themselves.

Peace out.

Okay.

This generalization saying that every conservative you know

is transphobic, homophobic, misogynistic.

I'm going to be honest.

A lot of the bigotry I see in judgment,

it comes from the left, right?

You can even look at Zoran Mamdani's wife.

Some of the things she was writing online.

Using the N word, okay?

This is Zoran Mamdani's wife in New York City.

Let's talk about that.

I see so much more racism coming from the left

than anywhere else.

And then even Joe Biden, who is the president

of the United States.

He called half the country garbage.

Let's not forget it.

And I actually pulled up the clip

to take you guys down memory lane.

Watch.

The only garbage I see floating out there is his supporters.

His demonization is his own personal.

And it's on America.

So we've seen this for years.

The left they call Republicans, conservatives,

and dependents.

They call us Nazis, fascists,

garbage, threats to democracy, time and time again.

We even see polls where they cheer on violence

against Republicans.

And so when I read these testimonies,

it's not shocking to me, right?

All of these testimonies, they're not shocking

because we see this over and over and over.

The left, they say they're all about acceptance and diversity.

And then they'll cut you off.

Let me reach the next one.

After spending the 2024 holidays

with my MAGA loving family,

I realized I was done with the extended family.

My parents were generally quiet about their politics,

but I know they voted for him.

And I found a way to work past it.

After the inauguration,

my best friend of 37 years

called and started praising the jerk.

Even though she knew my feelings about him,

I cut her off too.

I can't accept anyone justifying their behavior,

especially from people who don't claim to be devout Christians.

I needed to distance myself further.

So I moved to a very liberal area

about an hour and a half away.

Things didn't feel as scary around people

who were also terrified of the situation.

This is a 40-year-old male in North Carolina.

So to tie it back to Oprah

and the no-contact trend,

we're seeing a rise in no contact

because so many of these liberals,

these deranged liberals,

they can't stand having a conservative family member.

Okay, if God forbid,

you didn't want to vote for open borders,

crime, and all the crap we dealt with

under Joe Biden and Kamala.

I guess you're now persona and on grata

to people you've known for 37 years.

37 years and you're cutting people off

because of an election

and because of the propaganda you've been fed

that you think anyone who's conservative

is a Nazi, a fascist,

Hitler, threat to democracy.

It's actually quite disgusting.

It's gross.

It's really, really gross.

And it's just this far left faction.

Most Americans get along,

but it's probably 10, 20% on the left here

who can't stand anyone thinking for themselves.

Let me read you this last one.

This is from a 71-year-old male in Washington

said, I'm a lifelong Republican.

Liberal friends cut me off because they hate Trump.

I've been a Republican longer than Trump.

What the F?

This is what's going on in our country.

And so when Oprah and these liberals

are cheering on no contact,

it's fine to be estranged.

Why don't we prioritize coming together

and having conversations?

Now mind you,

you can't reason with crazy.

There are some people I think are too far gone.

I'm not going to bother even engaging with them.

But if we had more conversations,

I think people would realize across the aisles,

across the aisle,

we're aligned on a majority of issues.

We might have different ways of getting there.

We might want a few different things.

But it's actually the elites in Washington, DC,

who are fighting and not doing the will of the people.

Most Americans working class Americans

have the same goals.

They have the same goals.

We're not even divided by Republican or Democrats so much.

We're divided by class at honestly and society right now.

It's the working class versus the elites.

And so whether you're Republican, Democrat, and dependent,

I think if more people had conversations,

they would realize that.

So Oprah Winfrey,

we don't know what's going to happen with her

in this no contact situation.

She did get a lot of blowback,

a lot of backlash from the segment.

She did, especially calling it a trend.

Calling no contact in a strangement,

losing family members a trend.

I did feel it was trivializing.

She came out and apologized.

But it was still trivializing a situation.

But remember to bring it all home.

Oprah doesn't make money

when people are getting along,

when they're happy,

when the nuclear family is intact.

Remember, Oprah doesn't have family,

right?

She doesn't care if your nuclear family is intact.

She makes money and gets ratings and views

when you are under fire

and going through turmoil.

That's why she only talks to people

who are cheaters,

whose families have been broken up,

who are cutting off their children,

cutting off their parents.

Oprah's not out there highlighting good old,

fashion, American families.

She's not doing it.

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Well, my friends, I could not be more

excited to welcome this next guest.

Brianna Lyman, we've been on shows together.

Whenever I see her on Fox or CNN,

she is taking the liberals down.

She's one of the smartest

up-and-coming voices I think in culture

and politics will probably run for office some days.

She's also correspondent for the Federalist, Brianna.

How are you doing, my friend?

Great to have you.

Link, it's so great to be here.

Thank you. Thank you.

Okay.

So I want to start off by talking about this debate

going on in society right now

and it's all about masculinity.

And here in America, I feel like the left

continues to call masculinity toxic.

Anything that has to do with good old-fashioned masculinity,

it's toxic, right?

If a guy sits too comfortably, he's man-spreading.

If he's explaining something,

he's man-splaining.

And there's been this debate online, right?

Women have said they find Timothy Chalamet

more attractive than Henry Cavill.

And let me read you this post, though.

This is from someone who disagrees.

He said, Henry Cavill is more of a man's man,

but he actually isn't that attractive to most women.

Timothy Chalamet outshines him as a sex symbol

that appears to women.

Henry has the classic strong tall muscular

and reliable kind of vibe,

but he lacks edginess, danger, or mystery.

I don't know any woman that would choose

Timothy Chalamet over Henry Cavill.

What is this trend that we're seeing online?

I'm so confused, Breonna, can you help?

Okay, so I kind of think that for Timothy,

it's two things.

It's one, the fact that Kylie Jenner dates him,

so it makes it seem desirable

because someone else hasn't, right?

I also think part of it, you know,

like someone is actually like ugly hot,

right?

They're so ugly.

There's something.

I hope he's not watching this,

and there's something to check out.

He's not.

That might be it.

I don't find him ugly hot.

And I think the problem is you comparing Timothy

and Henry and Henry subjectively good looking,

but I do think he does lack that edg, right?

That Tom Selec Al Pacino type edg of a real masculine man

in Hollywood.

So it almost feels like Henry is stuck in between

the Timothy Chalamet's and the Tom Selec's, right?

Totally.

Well, do you think there's sort of this intentional plan

from the left, though, to kind of tear down masculinity?

Because we see this even from women

and we see this at protests.

We see this on social media.

They're like, F men, F the patriarchy.

I don't need a man, men are garbage.

And then we see these polls, like legitimate polls

and focus groups where these liberal women,

single liberal women report having the highest rates

of mental health issues.

And so it's like, maybe if you would give a guy a chance

and not say men are trash and give the nuclear family a chance,

society would function better, Breonna.

And I know you have some thoughts on this.

Yeah, the idea that solo living

should be prioritized or pushed is literally the opposite.

One of your just your biological functions.

Humans are naturally social beings, right?

Nobody actually wants to be alone.

And if you say you want to be alone,

it's just probably because you haven't found

the right person for you.

But that doesn't mean you should give up hope

and just banish all men or all women, right, vice versa.

And studies also show that married women with children

tend to be happier than women who are single and childless.

And it's really sad too, because there are a lot of women

out there who want a husband or a child.

And they can't have it for biological medical reasons,

or they just haven't met someone yet.

And like, you know, this better than anyone, right?

Our generation is screwed when it comes to dating.

It is so difficult to find someone.

So there are a lot of young women, my age, myself included.

We're nearing 30 years old and I don't see an end in sight,

because even men are kind of scared to go out there and date.

Because of that toxic feminism, the Me Too movement,

it's scared men into being men, right,

into approaching a woman and flirting and asking her out,

because they're worried, am I going to be accused of something?

So there is like this really dangerous cycle

that this generation is stuck in.

And if we don't get out of it,

you're going to see declining birth rates continue.

And you're also just going to see single women

who are going to be more and more depressed

and they lean more and more left.

Totally. I mean, the CDC coming out and saying

birth rates are at an all-time low.

We are begging you guys to have kids.

Like I always say, if you're a normal, nice person,

please have children.

If you're a Durangel liberal, actually,

maybe we don't need you procreating.

But we do need to bring more kids into our society.

And I'm so glad you brought that up,

because I don't know what the heck is going on.

Like if you don't have kids,

if you choose not to have kids,

that is totally fine.

But tearing down the nuclear family,

which is the bedrock of our society,

that has got to stop.

I mean, you can look at any data, right?

Kids who grow up with the nuclear family intact,

less likely to have mental health issues,

less likely to commit crimes,

less likely to go to jail, to prison,

et cetera, more likely to finish high school,

to go to college, right?

Having the nuclear family intact

is what we should be aiming for, Breonna.

But there's just this war over and over again,

against it, especially from Hollywood.

Yeah, and you saw that with like the third wave.

And even like fourth wave,

I guess it's fourth wave feminist now, right?

You see, for example, the erasure of women.

Even women don't want to be women.

And when you don't want someone to be a woman,

you don't want someone to be a mother.

They're a birthing person.

You strip the dignity that comes along with being a mother, right?

There's nothing special about it,

according to the leftist.

But there's something uniquely special

about being a mother, being able to be a caregiver.

Because you know what?

Men biologically just aren't wired the same.

That doesn't mean they can't be amazing fathers.

But women have those special nurturing capacities

and we should all embrace that

to the best and fullest extent of our capabilities.

Also, not to mention, look,

you have the idea of feminists in the 1970s, right?

I am woman, I think it's Helen Reddy who's saying that.

It was like a power anthem

and it kind of encouraged women to say, you don't need men.

And then between like 1990 and now,

women took it way too far, right?

They said, no, we don't need men at all.

Not just we don't need men who maybe don't support us.

We don't need men to any degree.

And again, you send a signal to men,

not to approach, right?

And you also teach young girls to prioritize,

you know, career over motherhood over marriage.

Because young girls are taught the motherhood

to marriage or shackles.

I always taught that in college.

I pursued my career so staunchly

because I was told that marriage and motherhood could wait.

And again, I'm nearing 30 and I'm like, I don't want to wait anymore.

I feel like I'm missing out on something, you know?

Well, your time is going to come.

Okay, whatever is meant to be, will be honey.

We're going to get a real Oprah up in here.

But no, I'm so glad that you brought that up

because when you look back at sort of women's liberation,

the feminist movement, let's talk about this.

This wasn't on our sheet for today, but let's break it down.

Because when we look at women's liberation,

it's about female empowerment, women supporting women.

Oh, we're going to, you know, be treated equally.

Now, these same women are perfectly fine

with men coming into women's sports,

men coming into their locker rooms,

girls getting brain damage

because they're forced to compete against men.

What happened to all those feminists, right?

I guess the feminist movement now on the left

is we're going to allow men to come in

and be on our teams and beat us up.

Isn't it so disgusting?

Like it just doesn't even make sense, Breonna.

Yeah, it's also like super insulting

because men who are mentally ill

and think they're a woman and cosplay as a woman.

But they're basically saying to women,

or to women is, I know how to be a better woman than you.

And women are taking it.

They're like, yeah, you do.

And it's like, you're going to let a man tell you

what a woman is.

Absolutely not.

I know Katangi Brown Jackson can define a woman,

but other women should be able to define themselves,

their gender, and not have men coming to that stage

and hijack it, right?

There's, again, something so special and unique

about being a woman, the same way

there are special and unique things about being a man, right?

We both have differences that actually make us more

unique and special and we should embrace those

and not let someone from the opposite side

tear you down, right?

Same way we shouldn't emasculate men.

Men should not try to defeminize the world, you know?

Absolutely.

And I want to talk to you about Hollywood

because we see a lot of these trends in Hollywood.

I mean, you want to talk about family.

You see every single celebrity now has a transgender child

and non-binary child.

It's almost like an accessory.

And you see some celebrities moving out of California,

right, because they're like these liberal policies,

the indoctrination, we're not going to do it.

But one of the women at the forefront

of sort of tearing down families and children

and the birth rates, that woman is Chelsea Handler.

So I want to play you a clip of a video,

Chelsea Handler posted online and get your reaction.

I just woke up and it's one o'clock in the afternoon.

I get to sleep to however late I feel like it

because I don't have any fucking children.

And because I don't have kids,

that means I don't have to go anywhere today.

I don't have to go to Disneyland, Lego Land,

Color Me Mine, Build a Bear, Yogurt Land, The Zoo.

I don't have to go to any of those places,

not once, not ever.

Kids, they're not that great.

So here we have a woman with millions of followers

and audience of millions, predominantly leftist,

women and urban enclaves.

And she's telling them kids aren't that great.

Her life is so much better not having children.

Are we living in the upside down?

It's fine if you don't want to have kids.

I have plenty of friends because of medical reasons,

personal reasons, they don't have kids.

But you don't have to glorify tearing down

the nuclear family Brianna.

Please, please help me feel better about this.

Okay, well, I think you should first feel better

that someone like Chelsea Handler is not procreating.

I don't know if we want people in the world.

But you hear Chelsea Handler say that

and it actually speaks to this kind of era that we're in.

And it's the era of selfishness, right?

People are concerned more about themselves.

Well, I have time to go out to my Pilates class.

Will a child encumber my ability to do that?

You know, there was a time of an American life

really up until like the 1970s

in which parents were willing to sacrifice

for the next generation.

And it goes through family life, it goes through politics

where everything the founders did wasn't for them.

It was for future generations, their children,

their offspring, right?

There was that element of selfishness.

You would do whatever's needed.

One, for your own family, two, for the community

and society, right?

And we've abandoned that so much so I think

apart because of social media, right?

Social media prioritizes, you know, self-care

but self-care to the max, right?

Don't do anything for anybody else.

You can cut someone off with no explanation.

There's never a need to be responsible

to another human being if it's your parent,

your spouse, your friend, your child.

And that's causing people to think

that they don't have to basically take part in society

and taking part in society does include

helping build and grow that society,

having children.

No, what 100% and there's even this trend online

called the Dalmoms trend where these women

who probably follow Chelsea Handler,

they're now raising families of plastic dolls.

It's not one doll, it's not two dolls.

It's like five, 10, 15 dolls and they have schedules

and alarms.

Don't we think this ties into the mental health crisis

we're seeing predominantly among liberal women, Brianna?

Yes, and I actually, I came across this recently on Instagram

and I thought like my eyes were deceiving me.

It's like this has to be like something

and there's so many women who do that.

And I actually think it is so sad

because the reason that they're doing this

is because there's something innately inside of them

that tells them they want to nurture something.

They want to be a caregiver

and maybe they biologically can't maybe they never met someone

but it's sad because they're making it seem like this is normal.

This is not normal.

This is actually the result of the toxicity of Chelsea Handler

of left wing radical feminists who say you don't need a child,

you don't need a man because when women get older,

their body physically wants those things in a lot of cases.

I have so many friends who say, gosh,

I wish I would be engaged soon

so I can just get to starting a family.

People, women do want that biologically

in a lot of cases, not all, but a lot.

No, it's interesting.

I do think most women that I know

are either striving to have a family,

spouse, a husband to raise those kids.

But then how do you even know where to send your kids

to school these days?

Because when you look at the indoctrination in schools,

I mean, one thing I always say is if you're gonna raise your kids

and I hear this from moms too,

you really gotta think, are you gonna send them to a school

that's an Ivy League?

That's one of these liberal fancy schools

that we would have revered 10, 20 years ago.

Now you send your kids there.

They come out in debt indoctrinated.

They think everyone is oppressive.

It's horrible.

So what would your advice be to people who have kids

that are maybe getting to that age

where they might apply for colleges?

I almost recommend a technical school,

learning a skill, doing something like that

unless you really wanna be a lawyer, a doctor,

and need that degree, Brianna.

Oh, I have a hundred percent degree

and I say that as someone who went to college

and I don't use my degree on the daily, right?

I didn't study journalism, but now I'm in journalism.

And I think to your point about, you know,

trade schools, look, with the AI revolution,

we have data coming out that college grads

actually have a harder time finding an entry level job

than high school grads, right?

Because high school grads are entering a different field.

And so I think now, if anything, is the age

in which you can save your child,

you don't have to go to school just because it's there.

If you wanna be a carpenter or a plumber,

those are amazing jobs that we are always going to need.

And part of the reason why we have to have those conversations

is think of how often over the past 20 years,

you were told you have to go to college.

Think about all the community colleges that spring up,

all the online colleges.

None of them actually need to be there.

Some people aren't fit.

They don't need to go to college.

There are other roles for them in society.

And we push them to spend money on college

just to say, I have a college degree.

So it's almost become as cheap as a high school diploma,

so to speak, right?

Like everyone has one.

So I think we should be encouraging the trades,

especially in high school,

so that kids aren't 18 saying,

well, why do now, right?

They have a plan.

No, 100% because people say to me all the time,

you're a hypocrite because you speak up against higher education

and going to college because you went to NYU,

you went to a good university.

And I say it's because I was in those classrooms

that I can tell you I've been there.

I've been in the classrooms where they made a score

around for an hour and all do our pronouns

and talk about how everyone is oppressed,

how we're all colonizers.

I mean, this is the stuff that we were being taught

in these classrooms.

And if you don't have a strong constitution

or a strong sense of self,

you're of course going to be pulled in those directions.

That's why we see all the protests

at Columbia University and all of the radicals.

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there's this new trend now,

where more and more young people are smoking cigarettes.

And what's interesting to me is,

were the generation that grew up

where they would come to our schools

and say, don't smoke, smoking kills,

don't ever pick up a cigarette.

My grandmother, she died of lung cancer.

Were that generation where smoking was so, so, so,

not a thing for us, but now Kylie Jenner,

she's on the cover of Vanity Fair smoking

and smoking and all of her pictures

and so many of her friends.

Do you think young people are just trying to be edgy

and cool or find a sense of self on the internet?

What do you make of this trend?

Yeah, I have a lot of friends who have,

I've never had a cigarette and I don't plan on it.

But I have a lot of friends who do like a drunk cigarette

and they don't smoke cigarettes more than, you know,

maybe once or twice a month.

It's just for the occasion.

And I do think that there is something

alluring about smoking cigarettes.

When I was a child and my grandmother and smoke,

I could not wait to be coming to Japan.

I thought it was so cool like sitting there.

And now I look back and I'm like,

what were you thinking?

And I guarantee I was only six years old.

But it spoke to that like 1960s Hollywood glam, right?

Think of all the sexy, you know,

Marilyn Monroe types who are always smoking a cigarette.

There was always something there.

And I think a lot of people connect cigarettes to sex appeal, right?

And that's why Kylie Jenner is sitting in that ad

doing that because there's something sexy about being edgy.

But it's so dangerous, especially when it's on social media

where you don't have parental control

for maybe 12 year olds.

We're seeing this and thinking, that's cool.

Like I was at six years old.

I want to do that one day.

Don't do it.

It's so dangerous.

Well, it's interesting.

I'm thinking of the show Mad Men.

I don't know if you ever watch Mad Men.

But Don Draper and it's all about the 60s

and the advertising industry.

Every single scene, everyone is smoking indoors.

Just ripping cigarettes, chain smoking.

And the women, they wore these like very tight outfits

with everything pushed up and they're smoking cigarettes.

So I do think maybe you're right.

Maybe there are these young women that think

we look real sexy and cool and chic.

Now that we're smoking cigarettes.

And maybe if it's just one or two a week,

don't take life advice from us here.

What a proselytizing.

But if it's one or two a week to look kind of sexy,

maybe we're okay with it.

But I do think there is a trend

where, because we see this in polling data,

young people feel more lost than ever.

Young people poll and say they feel like the systems

against us, they're figuring out who they are.

We saw this for years.

They would go on social media.

Suddenly they're questioning their gender.

They're changing their entire style.

And in the past, you had kids who would experiment, of course.

But it wasn't at this rapid pace in cadence

because of social media and these algorithms.

So I think maybe not to blow the cigarette thing up.

You know, not to have it go up and smoke, unintended.

But I do think there are young people

who are just trying to glom on and find something

and they associate cigarettes with being cool, Brianna.

I'll give you the last word.

Yeah, and I think to the social media point,

look, social media was promised

to make everyone feel more connected.

And if anything, it's made all of us feel a lot more isolated.

And so when you see a bunch of people smoking cigarettes,

you think that's how I'm going to get it.

And that's how I'm going to feel like I'm part of something.

And of course, it's not the way to do it.

But that's what social media has created.

I'm 100%.

OK, one last question I have to ask you

because it's on the top of my mind.

We've spoken about dating and social media.

Are your friends using apps?

Because I've been in the same relationship for years.

So I don't know like, are your friends on dating apps?

What are the apps?

How is it going for them?

I mean, what is your experience, Brianna?

What's going on in the streets?

Because I'm off the streets for a few years now.

I think actually a lot of my friends have shut down their apps.

They use a lot of them in a hinge.

Some of them use Tinder.

But hinge is kind of build as the one

where you could find a real connection.

And you don't find real, real connections on there.

So a lot of my friends are like, we need to go out to dinner.

We need to see if a man approaches us.

It's so hard.

And I'm in New York, so you think it'd be easy, but it's not easy.

Well, it's hard to, because like we said,

there is this backlash from the Me Too movement,

this over-correction, where guys are scared to approach

women sometimes.

And guys will write me and be like,

can you give me advice?

I'm like, the girls want you to approach.

You guys are scared to approach.

Just meet in the middle.

I mean, it went to a party in DC.

It was one of these like, make America hot again parties.

And it's like, all the guys are over here.

The girls are over here.

And I was saying, okay, go approach those girls.

You've got like 100 young smart conservative women

who want to talk to you, who are single,

ready for the picking, and the guys are nervous.

They don't know how to do it,

maybe because they grew up on social media, Brianna.

But I will let you go.

I won't keep you with this,

because I know you have so much to do.

You probably got to go get on television.

But we're so grateful that you came on.

I hope everybody goes and follows you.

Brianna, Lyman, she is correspondent for the Federalist,

but she's so much.

She is everything.

So please have an amazing rest of your week,

and we'll see you soon.

Thanks so much for having me, Link.

My friends, thank you so much for tuning in the spot

on with Link, Lauren.

I absolutely love you.

I can't wait to read all of your comments

about dating, family, relationships, advice.

I want to hear all of your stories and anecdotes

because I love getting that wisdom and that information.

And I know there are some influencers and podcasters.

They never read their comments.

I live in the comment section.

I read everything you guys write.

And I have this gratitude also

because so many of you share personal stories

from your lives, things you've gone through,

trials, and tribulations.

And so I don't take that for granted.

I really do love hearing those stories

and having that connection and that relationship with you guys,

because that's why I started making videos on my phone years ago.

I was sitting in my room and I thought,

I want to speak up on some of these issues.

So I love you.

Have an amazing rest of the day.

Kiss your loved ones and be well.

We'll see you on the next one.

Bye.