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I'm sad be my going to lie. I'm sad that that we that we lost today. We lost again that we probably

shouldn't have lost, but we lost it nonetheless. And it's just sad. I'm also sad because this is probably

the last basketball show that we're going to do for 2026. From here on out, we're just going to be

football football football, which is great, which I love talking about. But the buck I see is

and ended a little too prematurely for me today. And just sad. And you being the excellent

great player that you were. I'm more interested in your thoughts initially because I've read the

Twitter verse and the Ohio State fan base on the board thought. And for some reason,

you know who's going to allow the iron who's catching a lot of the the flack of the game is

Kristoff Tilley for some reason, which is I find absolutely bizarre because I actually thought he

played pretty good today. And you know, I mean, other than Moebly, who clearly was our best player,

I thought Tilley might have been our second or worst third best player. But for some reason,

he's just catching straight from him. And I just wonder when you were watching the game,

were you thinking, wow, Kristoff Tilley is killing us or did your thoughts go elsewhere?

Well, I mean, the hope the first half was bad. And so Kristoff, Kristoff Tilley, Kristoff Tilley played

his part in the bad first half. Was he the worst on the on the floor? No. But he was being goofy.

And he was being a little soft around the rim, which is something he does. I think he's an okay

player. He has some skill for his size. But man, it's just like he needs to play bigger. He needs

to be more physical consistently. And I think that's some of the people's complaint about Tilley,

finishing around a Ram Stronger. To me, he's too hesitant. It's just like, dude, like,

but I mean, he is who he is. He has his 11 points of game this year. And he scored 10 today.

He averaged four rebounds of game and he had six. He averaged two assists. He played better in the

second half. He played better in the second half. I'll give you that. I mean, I mean, you know,

I just I just feel like, like, man, I mean, you're looking for super villains in this game. It's

hard to look at somebody who overachieved over their season averages as the problem for the game.

Like I felt the rest were letting them play an extremely physical game in the first half.

I didn't think that a nerd doe house they'd benefit. I think they let, you know,

they let TCU get away with a lot and then at the end of the game, there were some,

I felt marginal calls that they called, you know, one, we were up three and they called a three

point play. I'm barely any contact at all. They said it was a little incongruent. But yeah,

no, I mean, I agree. Yeah, I think I said, Tilly, I mean, to me, I thought the story of the game,

you lose a two point game. You have the all-time leading scored in the history of a house they

basketball who averages 20 points of game. And he has one basket in the second half of a game where

you're down 15 and a half time. Now, that is a problem right there. That is an issue. You can't

shoot 33% from the field and score 10 points. One of the all-time leading score in a house that

history in a game. And, you know, Bruce Thornton, I couldn't, I mean, I don't know, was that his worst

game ever at a house they may be? No, I mean, he picked the peculiar, I mean, there's never been

a bigger game that he's played worse. You know what I'm saying? Because I mean, there you go.

I mean, I think I agree with that. I mean, I mean, he's the all-time leading score in school

of history. The all-time leading score. And he shot 33% from the field and had one basket in

the second half. I mean, I don't, but we're talking about Kristoff Tilly. I don't know. I'm just

confused to be honest with you. No, let me be clear. I don't agree with the take that Tilly is the

number one guy like, oh, Tilly, I don't agree with that. I think he could have played better in the

first half. Like, but that's just a carryover complaint from me. I like Tilly, but I don't love Tilly

because of the stuff I already mentioned. But that's not the first person I'm calling out is Tilly.

I agree. Now, let's get to Bruce Thornton and we'll just talk about the game. So obviously,

you could see the game plan from TCU. This is nothing new. I mean, teams like all through the schedule

blitz, Bruce Thornton, double shading. Just think about it. We mostly talk about football.

So who are you football people? Just look at it as a rolling coverage, right?

Rolling coverage over to Jeremiah Smith's side. Think about it like that. If you don't know basketball

that well, it's like when Bruce Thornton get the ball to top of the key, they were keying on him.

When he would penetrate, they would shade over. It was like a diamond like following him around.

If you look at what TCU was doing, the game plan was to take away Bruce Thornton and make the rest

of the guys beat you. That was the game plan. So with that said, to your point, Nevada,

it's tough. You don't want to force things and basically plan to the hands and turn the ball over

and try to do too much. But you also have to be very, very aggressive when you're when that,

when you pick your spots, when there's a hole or when there's a weakness or there's a lane,

you have to attack. And when you attack, you have to know how to attack. And this is what I mean.

I think Bruce got frustrated. He was very frustrated. He was frustrated. When he did have opportunities

later in the game, to me, he made the incorrect play that he normally doesn't make. He's very smart.

Like going into the body of punch, instead of pulling up for that little 10-foot shot that he

can hit so well, he tried to go in and just got swallowed up by punch. And so the game plan

frustrated Bruce Thornton. We didn't come out with the same energy. We didn't come out with the

same physicality. TCU played like they've been in the tournament recent, like they have,

they've been in the tournament in the recent years. We came out like we, you know, like the stage

was big. Now obviously we adjusted and we settled down and we were right in the game,

but that's always hard to overcome that when you're coming out like that. And so it was a lot

of the same stuff I saw all year Nevada, but we were able to still fight back. But it just wasn't

enough, man. But yeah, to your point, Bruce Thornton, and let me say this last thing because I love

Bruce Thornton. And I was talking to my guys who came by earlier watching the game.

Bruce Thornton is a great kid. He's a really good basketball player. He has skill and talent.

But I think today showed why, yes, he's the leading scorer because he's been here for four

years. He's been consistent. Great kid. He stayed with a house state. But he's not he's not

he's not Michael red. He's not Mike Conley. He's not Jim Jackson. He's just not to that level.

Because again, even with that attention on him, yes, be patient. Get it to your guys,

but you've got to be aggressive and still take over and still overcome that. If you're an elite,

like Elite Hooper Hooper, Nevada, go ahead. I know you want to jump in.

Well, I mean, like there's so many things to say. I just, you know, I know enough about basketball

from having played not at the highest levels, but played a lot of basketball in my life. And

having coach not at the highest level, coach a lot of basketball in my life, that it was evident

from like the first couple of possessions that Bruce would literally pick up his dribble 30 feet

away from the basket and stop and look and then he would go standing at the corner. They had

completely buffaloed. And at that point, as the head coach, you have to take the ball a lot of

his hands. You have to. And I'm screaming the whole first half. I'm like, get let mobility,

let mobility run the offense. Do not get the ball out of his hands. You know, and

the fact that it took an entire half on something that I literally recognized at 1733 to go in the

first first half, it took it. And once we switched to mobility, we erased a 15 point deficit and

went to a five point lead. That's a 20 point swing. How can I just I don't understand

how something that's so obvious took him so long to figure out? I just I'm just I'm really struggling

with it. Look, if somebody's going to take something away from you, then they're leaving

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He couldn't beat anybody off the dribble. Why are we slowing the game down? Why are we having

Bruce Thornton's out there just dribbling to nothing to eight down the clock and then running

some hurried set and getting some crappy shot up. You know what I'm saying? I'm like, man,

we have got to attack the rim and I have people saying, oh, we don't attack or how state

doesn't it? We don't. That's not what we plan. I'm like, you have to play that way. You cannot

let this TCU defense set up against you. When you've got the ball, I mean, Bruce Thornton's got

to be able to, because he's not the biggest guy. He's not Evan Turner. He's not, you know,

he's not six foot six. So you've at least got to be able to beat somebody off the dribble.

So if you've got the thing, you've got to be able to create something. I don't think he beat

somebody off the dribble a single time today, not not once. I don't think he beat somebody off the

dribble. And that just created all sorts of problems for everybody else on the inside. Nobody

else is getting open inside. And frankly, once we switched them all,

though, everything switched. And I just don't understand why Jake Dibler, who I like Jake Dibler,

I want Jake Dibler to be successful. How can you go that long and not see what is obvious to

everyone needed to be changed? How can he go that long without adjusting?

Yeah. And I've seen it. He did. He adjusted, but it was later. Like you said, I saw him starting to

bring Bruce off ball and trying to run him through screens and sets to get him loose.

Instead of him bringing a ball up court, but it was later. And so I think to ask you a question,

I'm not saying this right, but you're thinking he's seen this before. He's your best player.

Let him work through it. Let him make, you know, good decisions through it and and press through it.

And that's what I think Dibler was thinking. But it just obviously, it just, it didn't work well.

But yes, running the offense through mobility was better, you know, as far as the flow of the

offense and getting things going. But not just that. I mean, we turned the ball over seven times

in the first half. And it just was conky. We didn't look in rhythm. TCU looked in rhythm. Now,

again, to their credit in the second half, they stepped up, started playing much better.

You know, started matching that physicality. TCU got a little cold and whatnot, but just came up

short. We can honestly, bro, we can talk about, unless you got more to say about that, we can talk

about what everybody's talking about, which is that last 4.3 seconds left. And what happened on that

play? And I mean, that was, that was rough. That was frustrating. First of all, shout out to

Dev before we get into that Nevada. I agree with you, Dev. He mentioned in the group chat, the

group chat that you can't give up that position. Now, by the name of the freshman, he's a, he's a

pretty big physical kid. And that TCU kid is no, no slouch. But I agree, you can't let him get

that deep in the paint. I thought we played good defense on punch on that play. But that

TCU kid was white. He was established deep in the paint. And at that point, I'm just, I'm glad

Biden didn't foul him. But that was just tough, man. Nevada, what you got?

Well, you know, yeah, I mean, would I like to have seen Biden, you know, play a little bit

or defense on that. Yeah, but I, you know, I just thought it was a good play by TCU. He was able to

wall him off and look, they got a, they got a great shot in that situation. I just, again,

from a coaching standpoint, when you're looking at the clock and you see that there's going to be

about a four or four and a half second difference. But if they run it down to the very end, which

they did credit to TCU. But given the rules where you can't advance the ball, I'm telling, I'm

telling my guys, you've got to get the ball in balance and you've got to get the ball across

half court. And then we call the timeout. You know what I'm saying? Like, like anything you do,

you've got to get the ball into the front court. And then you call the timeout. I think,

you know, but again, that's, that's the kind of, that's, this isn't a second guess. This was

something I was saying the number 30 seconds when TCU was setting up their shot. I'm like, you've

got to anticipate that. And you got to be telling the guys, look, when this happens, you know,

if they score, get it into the front court, let's call timeout, let's get something set up,

let's run a play. Hardly, it was obviously what they were doing. They're coming in hide it till he

he was going to go back to Thornton and Thornton was going to try to run down and hit kind of an

event turner, you know, jumper, but, you know, there's not a lot of great plays when you can't

advance the ball to mid court with 4.3 seconds ago. So as much as people want to be mad,

I don't, I'm not as mad at him for that play, but I think the setup to that could have been better.

You know, which goes to the whole day, I felt like the entire day, I didn't feel like we came out

with the right kind of intensity. I didn't feel like we came out with the right kind of defense.

I didn't feel like we came out playing the type of game that we really needed to play

in order to win, you know, and incidentally, you know, game, it's literally the first game of

the tournament and we're out already. And it just, you know, it to me, I thought that everyone

of Jake Debeler's deficiencies were on display today as a head coach. And I think his inexperienced

showed. And, you know, for me, who's been somebody who's been, you know, pretty much on the,

you know, definitely look, I think we got to give Debel more time. Now I'm, I'm not sure. I'm

going to look, I think to me, it really depends on who might be available as a potential thing.

Because I just, I thought that some of the mistakes he made were just so rudimentary

that it really has, it has me questioning, you know, his ability to say his coach, maybe that's

fear, maybe that's unfair, but that's where I'm at. And I hear you, here's the last play.

So I think you nailed it to where it's 4.3 seconds and the ball's not advanced.

So I was kind of tripped into myself like, some of these takes on, oh, they drew that up.

I mean, there's not much you can do. I mean, we've seen it. We've seen

team score from this. I mean, it was, it had to be executed perfectly. You know, you got a guy,

I, I would have gave it to Mobley in this situation. I think he's faster than a Bruce Thornton

and he's a better distant shooter. Like, I would, if you're going to draw that up,

I would have drew it up for Mobley. Not only that, but the other team is looking for your senior,

you're all tightly in score to get the ball. And you see, there's two guys on them. And so,

I don't know, that's just me, but yes, I agree that, and I don't even say the hindsight,

but knowing what's coming, knowing you only have one time out left, just signal to your guys,

get it across, get it across, you know, that should be something you do in practice. And that's

it, in that situation, that would have gave them a better chance to come off the screen and get a

clean look for three, you know, or even a, or even throw it down low to get a foul or something.

But yeah, man, I knew when this happened, it was a rap, barring a miracle, but unfortunate.

Now, as far as what you said about Debler, yeah, I mean, here's the thing I said this before.

I don't think Jake Debler is a bad coach. I think he can be a very good coach.

I think he might have been brought into early. I think he's a guy that probably would have

had been in a better situation, success-wise, maybe, if he was brought in three years after the

hope and like, he went to a max school, cut his teeth, came back. He was, he was retained.

I think the brass saw that he was good with the kids. He's a good coach. He's bright,

but today probably showed, like you said, his efficiencies that he's still learning.

And so, you know, but also, I do not want to discount the fact that I'm not going to act like

Jake Debler went into this tournament with a deep roster and a fully loaded NIO clip

and all the other stuff. If they're going to keep him, they need to make sure they provide him with

everything he needs to get players on this roster. Period. Now, I told you all, I just want

Buckeye Basketball to be a league. I want Buckeye Basketball to compete for championships,

like, under that matter, you know, like how we work. Consistently, sweet 16 or, you know, like

in the tournament, elite, that's what I want. If that's getting rid of Debler, okay,

but who are we going to get? And that's not a question saying we shouldn't. I'm just saying,

it better be somebody good. We better put the full resources that we have for this basketball

program behind them. Period. I don't care who it is. Debler or somebody else, that's something we

need to step up with is making sure we put more intentional emphasis into this program.

Because I want to be fair. Debler is, is, you know, he may, he's made mistakes. He may be

early into his blessing and arrived a little early, but let's not act like he's had the full

support and had a full, you know, deep roster. He hasn't. He has no bench. So to me, we got to look

at both sides, but either way, I want to fix the question is, is Debler, is this going to be looked

at by the brass, Nevada, by the, a Buckeye, you know, administration as, hey, we made progress.

We won the most big 10 games. We won it four seasons. We made the tournament for the first time.

The players like him, they respond to him. We got a McDonald's on American coming next year.

Let's keep building this. Let's add more. I mean, is that how they're going to look at it?

Probably. I don't think he's going to get fired. Regardless of what we say, what we think,

I think they're going to keep him for another year at least. That's just my opinion. But Nevada,

what you got on all that? Well, I mean, I guess, I mean, the question I asked is like, I'm

world-highest at you can talk about the roster and I get that. But like, do you think High Point

has a better roster than we do? You know, I mean, you know, I honestly don't know High Points,

but I'm going to say no. But yeah, I mean, because High Point certainly doesn't have the resources

that we do or the reputation or the recruiting base or, you know, I'm saying none of that, but,

you know, they managed to put the other team and, you know, beep was kind. And I know it's one

game and everything else like that. But it's just, you know, you just wonder, you know, are you

getting better? Are you getting worse? You know what I'm saying? And I think for a high-estate,

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I guess we're marginally better than we were last year, but is Debra the guy to,

are you delaying the inevitable? Do you see Jake Debra? I guess the question would be,

do you think Jake Debra will be the head coach here at Ohio State in five years or 10 years?

Do you think he's got that kind of longevity? And I know it's kind of an impossible

question to answer. It's all hypothetical. But it's one of those things where

I just don't know. And like I said, I'm willing to ride with a lot of things regarding

you know, at the end of the day, I'm a big believer in, it's not the Xs and O's, it's the Jimmy's

and Joe's and they've got to perform. But in basketball of all the games,

man, the coaches have such an impact because they affect everything on in-bounds plays on

rotations, switching defense. And there's all sorts of things that the coaches directly impact

on almost a possession, a possession basis. And so, you know, a coach is just so so important to

your success. I just don't know if Debra can be, like I said, I'm really struggling with the fact

that Debra took that long to get them on to Moby's hands. I mean, I get trying to play

with him. The thing about what you said, if everything you're saying, you're just playing two

guys over the top on them, they're shaking the entire defense, they're playing a triangle over

the top. I mean, then how do you have that guy to just keep running into that mass front over

and over and over again? When you've got a player Moby who can get it done, you know, I'm

sound like he's a guy. He's a viable option. It's not like he hasn't done it with the ball in his

hands so far this year. I just don't know how it could take Debra that long to figure that out.

That's something that's kind of confounding me way more of the sort than the play design on the

last play or should we have stayed in his own defense or any of the other or even his rotations.

I mean, even getting cut in there and doing some of the things that he did, I just, I don't know.

I mean, you know, I'm the last play again. Do you give it to Moby who at least score or do you

give it to the guy who's three of mine from the floor? I, you know, I don't know, you know, any

option you had was bad now. When 4.3 seconds, basically, we've all seen the Christian Latener thing

and we, you know, look, I know it can happen, but it's hard. It's, it's really, really hard.

And it, you know, it's a low, it's a low percentage play no matter, no matter, you know, how you go

about it. So, um, but I don't know. I, I, I, let me put you, if I'm on Ohio State, I am definitely

working the following to see who's available and working to see if, if there is an upgrade for it

because, um, I think you're really at an inflection point with the program right now and, uh,

if you're going to make a move, I think this is the time to make it. I don't, I don't think,

so if you're not going to keep them long term, then I think you get rid of them now. Okay,

I think you just cut your losses and, and, and move on. Yeah. Question is, will they do that?

I just don't know. I'm not confident they will. And I, I'm showing this clip also

because look at the aggression from going back to what we talked about with Bruce Thorden.

Look at the, look at the, the, the lack of hesitant. Like he just, he just, I wish Bruce

and this game because again, they were all over him.

They were, they were trying to take him out of the game. I get that. But as a star player,

the captain of your team, boom, he did not hesitate. Pull it up. Like it was needed.

Like, boom, like he, that was a big bucket for him. That's what your leadership be doing. And to

me, I feel like early in the game, I don't know if it was frustration. I don't know what it was.

But you got to find a way. Yes, you want to be patient. Somebody's open. If they're doubling you,

make the right play. I get all of that. But you also have to pick your spots and be aggressive.

And to me, this, he did not hesitate. He pulled up in his face and stroked it. Boom. Like that was

needed throughout the entire gang to really set the tone and lead your team. But anyway,

yeah, Nevada. I mean, listen, I hear you. You mentioned a high point. I mean, look, we smashed

Wisconsin to by 17. I wasn't that high on Wisconsin. I had them losing the next round anyway.

And shoot. Sienna gave Duke all they can handle today. This tournament, you better come ready.

You better be ready to play. I don't care how deep your roster is. It's like every year we get,

we get reminded of how, how big this tournament is. And you see little teams take out big teams

and 12s take out fives and whatever. But I don't know, Nevada. I mean, the question for me is,

what is Bjork in this administration going to do? I'm not pounding the table to keep dealer.

I'm saying, okay, if you get rid of dealer, you better be on the phones and find someone

who is like, hey, yo, this is a stud coach. I want that. I don't want to, you know what?

He might be okay. No. If you fire dealer, go get somebody, be aggressive like you would be

in football and go get somebody that says, this is a home run higher. And this is it, Nevada.

Do you think they can do that? Because to be honest with you, Nevada, before you jump in,

I'm not as confident in this administration to do that in basketball as I am in football.

You know what I'm saying? So it's like, I just don't know.

Well, I just give you a fun fact, a little fun stat. And then I'll give that to your question.

Do you know that Bruce Thornton hit his first three-point of the game with 33 seconds into the game?

And then hit his last three-pointer with 33 seconds left in the game. And between that period in

time, between that period of time, he had one basket. Good Lord. But between the first race.

Between the first 33 seconds and last, so in the last, in 39 minutes, he had one basket.

Yeah. You know what I'm saying? And it's just like, that can't happen?

No, no, no. I mean, 39 minutes, one basket and two free throws. That's all, that was it.

Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, I mean, look, Cano has they do it? Absolutely. I mean, like,

Ohio State just signed Nadine Museroll, their hockey coach, to a new five-year contract.

You know, keeping her away from Minnesota. I mean, Ohio State can do whatever they want.

And basketball's not in a relevant sport. We're not talking about, you know, archery or, you know,

fencing or something like that or, you know, women's lacrosse. We're talking about basketball.

I mean, it's a revenue sport. It's a sport where you actually make money if you've got a decent

team. There's no reason they shouldn't have, you know, they've got great facilities. They've got a

great recruiting base. They've got a great reputation. They've got a history of success in recent

success. So to me, I think they've got to be working the phones going after and trying to see what's

available because, you know, I want to see what options that might have for this.

Yeah. I mean, they should do their due diligence, for sure. Like I said,

to me, well, first of all, I agree, obviously, basketball is not football, but it's not, I don't know,

rifle, or they actually won national championships at a Ohio State or good too. But you get my point,

talk about revenue. Like I get that. I understand that. But to me, I haven't seen a ton of evidence

in the past years to show that they're putting as much emphasis on the basketball program.

So I'm skeptical hippo with them actually making a splash like that. I don't think it's impossible,

you sure they can. But will they? That's my question. And here's a Bruce Thornton walking off the court,

dejected last game and all that, man, sucks. And it was an emotional roller coaster today.

We're down 15 have to have. I'm thinking, I kept saying to my people, boring a small miracle,

this game is over, which I still stand by that because to me, being able to come back like we did

with a small miracle because we just, we were just bad in that first half. But then, you know,

the roller coaster go back up and then came crashing down at the end and it was very frustrating,

very sad. But this is what's been going on with this program.

Past four years, the first time in the tournament in the past four years is tough in itself.

So I don't know, man, Nevada, that's going to be the question mark for me. What are we going to do?

Are we going to keep Jake? If we keep Jake, what are we going to do to step up with NIL funds,

portal, you know, make sure we bring guys in here, not, not mid guys, but high level guys that

can come in and play and, and make a big impact and, and all that. So that's the question. I mean,

that, you know, that's pretty much it at the end of the day, Nevada. What else you got?

Yeah, now I think I'm going to go with my final answer being I think Ohio State is going to be looking.

I'm going to be definitely testing the, the lines with the, with the agents that know about this stuff,

whether or not, Ohio State is really looking forward. But I just, I think something like this,

I mean, I think, I think Ohio State fans, you saw from the, I mean, Ohio State fans really want

to support the basketball team. They really want to get behind the basketball team.

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you're right. The first half it looked like we were completely outclassed by TCU, you know,

in every way. And again, they were up 15 and I felt like it could have been higher than that.

But, you know, we managed to take a five-point lead in the second half and then, you know,

you, you, you, you know, to, to have, I, I feel like it was our, it was our lack of experience

and, and I mean, no, I gotta say it, coaching. I really think coaching costs us today.

I think if we had a more experienced coach, we would have won the game today.

I think if we had FADMAT, FADMAT, even if we had just holding, I think we'd have won the game

today. But, you know, that, again, that's hypothetical, you know, we'll, we'll never know.

But I, I, I, I, I thought deeper was really bad today. And I, and I've ruined it for I like

deeper. I, you know, I like that. I love that love's brother. I want deeper to be it. But I just,

I'm trying to think about, you know, even our in-bounce play, you know, like one thing he'd

been really making his bones on is how many, you know, how often we'd scored off of in-bounce plays

and stuff. And I, I didn't even like our in-bounce plays. I didn't, I just, I didn't like our offensive

sets. I didn't like the way we were doing it. Just it, nothing seemed to make sense. And, um, you

know, you know, it just kind of all, you know, crystallized and so I'm going to go with my final

answer is going to be a house. It's going to be looking. But I'm, I'll, I'll know here the next 24,

48 hours of their, if they're making calls because this is, this is when they start making them

right now. Yes. I was going to say, please, holler at your sources because I want to know, I want to

know, you know, because again, I just, my confidence is through the roof with a house they football

doing whatever it takes to get to keep the beast going. I'm not a confident in Buckeye basketball.

I'm just not. So yes, please keep us posted on that Nevada. But before we close out, I did want to

bring out one thing that's non basketball related. I thought was very interesting. Nevada,

I'm going to share my screen real quick. And, um, the chat, tell me if y'all heard about this because

it's tournament time. And I think this is kind of like, just kind of flying under the radar.

But did y'all see the incident approved changes to targeting suspension in one year trial?

So here it is. For at least one season, a targeting penalty will no longer automatically take

a college football player off the field for the following game. The division one football,

the subdivision oversight committee on Thursday approved a one year trial rule that gives a player a

break for his first targeting penalty. For the 26 season, a player disqualified for targeting for

the first time in the season can participate in a following game. The trial rule will apply

regardless of which half the targeting penalty is caught. A player who draws a second targeting

penalty of this season will be required. Sit out the first half of the next game. A player who

draws his third targeting of the season must sit out the full following game. And then it notes

that there were no players that were disqualified for targeting three times in the 2020, 2025 season.

So to me, this is low key significant because we've been talking about the targeting rule.

I know Joe Klatt has hated it. He's been pounding the table. Others have mentioned it.

I thought this was interesting. Okay. So I wanted to quickly touch on this before we bang out

of here. Nevada, what's your thoughts on this, brother? Well, first of all, I hate the targeting

rule period. So let me just say, you know, I let me explain to you what the fundamental

flaws in targeting targeting was set up to deal with the most egregious types of hits.

You know what I'm saying? And you know, it's like that old saying by Justice Potter, they asked

him the definition of pornography. And he goes, I know it when I see it. You know what I'm saying?

Like that's kind of a targeting. Like we know it when we see it. Like so if you have a hit,

and I'm you know what I'm talking about, you've been in a house they fan, you know, for like,

you know, when we see guys get disqualified for games for hits were at the last second,

that quarterback ducks his head and a shoulder pad hits him the side. You know what I'm saying?

Something like that. That that to me is not targeting until so until they I like the intention

that they're trying to make the penalties less punitive on this stuff. But I think until they

deal with the entire rule. And I think the problem is with the when you slow everything down to slow

okay. In slow motion, there's head contact almost every single play. You know what I'm saying?

Some part of your body is going to make contact with the other person's head on 90% of the

thing. You know what I'm saying? Like it could be your forearm, it could be your hand, it could be

your shoulder, it could be your wrist. I mean, something's going to make contact with the head

or neck area on just about every play. So when you're slowing it down like that and they're going

to doing the review like that, I really think it's just got to be I've always felt like there

should be like two penalties like one for the most egregious ones and another should be a five

yard. I don't know. I don't know what exactly what the answer is. But I think it's just I don't

like the application of the rule in general the way that they do it. Because I think about that

that game that we played against Clemson when we got the remember we got the targeting penalty

on the side way on the side way on the on the on the sack of Trevor like to be there is no way in

the world that is targeting. But that got called for targeting. And so until you address that to

me, that's way worse than this stuff about first penalty second penalty, third period, one game,

half game, no game, whatever. I just hate the rule period. And you know until they change that,

then, you know, I don't know where to go with that. I mean, what do you think about targeting?

What do you ask? How do you feel about the application and how do you feel about how the rules

been been called in recent years? I mean, you you kind of just spoke my mind and you brought up

that shine weight targeting penalty to me is the chair. It's the crown jewel of terribleness when

it comes to targeting. And it's no it's not just because I'm a Buckeye fan. He dropped his head.

Sunshine dropped his head right at the moment when shine weight was coming. If he doesn't drop his

head, they don't call targeting. And they still shouldn't have called target because it wasn't targeting.

Like to me there has to be common sense to it. You review it. You see all the player dropped his head.

Like, come on, man. Like listen, I one thing I do agree with Joe clap is it's a it's a it's a the

rule is terrible because it's so subjective. You can have a guy do one thing and get caught and

then another guy another game through the same thing I get caught. So listen, you spoke my mind.

I don't really have much else to say you're right on it, but that shine weight play against Clemson.

That was so trash and that's still haunts me is like two two plays in that game. But like the

worst plays in my Buckeye fandom of officiating. So yeah, I'm kind of happy to see that they're not

getting. Go ahead. No, it's because I know the second one was the Akuta one. We're you know,

on the on the the fumble recurring. Yeah, which is the worst column in the history of calls.

But I think it goes to a more basic thing. And this is something we've talked about before,

but it's it's about replay. And you know, replay was set up to reverse

indisputable video evidence of air on the field. Indisputable meaning no two reasonable people

could draw different conclusions from watching the same tape. I feel the same way should be with

targeting. If it's not so clear and obvious, you can't call targeting, you know, with review,

review should not be I think or oh, yeah, that looks like or yeah, that appears to be it should

only be black and white. I think targeting should only be black and white. I think review

should only be black and white. And and I think too many times the review official, the guys they

want to get involved. They want to make the big call. They want to do the thing. And I just think

until they change that until they get the application right, um, um, replay, I think it

troubles into, um, into targeting as well. I think they should be the same standard. Indisputable

video, it should have to be it's indisputable video evidence of targeting. Like there's no question

in your mind. It shouldn't be, well, yeah, that kind of looked like that or wow, he did come drop

and said, there's any doubt it shouldn't be a penalty. That's just where I'm at. And that's

how I feel about review about replaying and and you know, I've been saying that for years about

replant. Yep, you have you been in the system of replay. And so I agree. I mean, I don't just

like this one year trial. I think it's cool that guys aren't I think it predict protects

guys from bad refereeing so that they don't get ejected for a half a game. Your best player

because of a bad call. So I like that. Now, what's going to happen after that trial? We'll see.

But I thought that was interesting in the midst of the NCAA tournament. I thought that was a

significant piece of, uh, information to update. So I definitely wanted to run that by one, but

listen, uh, tough day did not end the way we wanted it to end. It is what it is. Uh, we'll see how

the future holds with Devler and what Ohio State does and all that and we'll absolutely keep

you up on that. But spring practice is back next week. We'll get on that and we're always going

to hit you with content and coverage, all things. Buckeye football, basketball, whatever's relevant.

We're going to hit you with any last words and about it for behalf of here.

Well, yeah, now that I mean, look, we can officially kind of close the book on Buckeye basketball.

You know, obviously they'll, you know, kind of work on get ready for for next year. I mean,

to see who they, who they return, who they get in the portal. You know, what's going on with that.

But, um, you know, hey, Buckeye football is going and we're going to have it. We're going to have

a scrimmage next weekend and that, that'll be, those are always fun because then we really get

to see been the ball trip line. For sure. And Tom G sent a super chat. Uh, thanks for the one

night and I got to go. This program needs a caliperio patino. So yeah, we're going to see.

We are going to see. I agree. We deserve an elite coach. Um, you know, are we,

can devler be an elite coach three, four years from now? Maybe is it worth waiting to see?

I don't know. Either way, we, you know, is we're going to see in Nevada. I'm waiting to hear

from your contacts, your agent folks to see what's really going on. But, you know, time will tell,

I will tell. Um, what do you think about those names caliperio patino? I know he doesn't mean

literally them, but it looks like he's saying this program needs a caliperio patino type coach.

Would you think about that? Well, I, you know, I wouldn't mind some of these from

stature. I wouldn't even mind some of these from stature in some bag. I don't, that, that stuff

doesn't bother me. I think, I think all of college basketball recruiting is a little crooked

and people can say what they want about that. But that's just the way that I feel. I feel like I,

I know that industry will enough to know how dirty that is. So if they had to get somebody with some,

that's the, I don't have a problem with it. Either that or you know, you, you go with the last

on our man, the last honest man in coaching, you know, you get from the cheese it to get

B Moses. You get B Moses and you bring him in there and you're like, look, we're going to go with

ethicalness. We're going to go with you, you're kind of coach Carter. You can put like, hey,

you're like my reputation's up there on the wall. There are guys, I'm just putting them up there

and can lead us to victory. They'll like you to the cheeses. I mean, cheeses came together

like this year. They were like a, like a disperited group. They got that and you molded them into

champions. They all woke up with the cheeses when at the end of the day. They're definitely

cheeses at the end of the day. Do I have my cheesy graph? Or is my cheesy graph? I didn't upload it

here. Did I? I didn't get. I wanted to share it. I might have to upload it. Oh, no, there it is.

There it is right here. Did it pop up? Oh, that's got to be a Halloween costume. That is

bad to be a Halloween costume. Oh, man, that is hilarious. I'm available though. I'll tell you what,

I would recruit well. I know how talk to the young boys. Young boys. Oh, I'm sure. I'm sure you

better open up with them a little bit out there. Just they may say, hey, let's play a little one

on one there. And if I beat you, then you come to last night. Then you commit. Deal, son.

Then he started raining by the night. Don't worry about that right now. Don't worry about that.

Don't decide. Right. What about me? Oh, it sounds like it's seen from

why my why is the movie escape me? Denzel Washington, Ray Allen, Jesus Shuttle's word. He got

gang. I don't know if you see that before. Oh, yeah. It's his dad. He's playing one on one.

Yeah. Yeah. So anyway, go watch it. I'm thinking more like blue chips or something like that.

You're like the Nick Nolte. Look good on this guy. I think it's lured into the lured

rule of recruiting them. You're delivering tractors up to something out there in the farm.

Happy was the name. Happy was the blister's name. Dropping bags off and tractors. And I mean,

they had Penny Hardaway, Shaq, who was the white boy with the jumper that had the trap. I forget

his name for Indiana. You get for Indiana, right? Yeah, that movie that was that movie was crazy.

Al Bundy was the investigative reporter. I might have to go back and watch that. That's good stuff.

So we always go off with a tangent. But listen, listen, this is all good. Man, we love doing this.

It's fun today sucked. But it is what it is. We still got football. We still got football. Y'all,

we got it. We're going to be good. So anyway, that's my last words. And listen, until next time,

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