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Hello, and welcome to on the corner of the official podcastpitchers.com.

I'm your host, Eric Somalski.

Join for the final episode of our run through his top 400.

It's Nick Pollock, and we are not getting to all 400 today, Nick.

But listen, the sun, it is shining.

We've beaten back the winter.

The world baseball classic is really exciting right now,

and the sun's out.

I wish I could watch more games on MLB TV right now for spring,

but I'm feeling like it's baseball season.

Yeah, it really does feel like that.

Finally, it's nice.

It was like 60 degrees or something in New York.

Yeah.

Oh my gosh, it just solves an turn around like that.

And I'm stoked about this.

What is it, 68?

Yeah.

Oh my gosh.

I need to get outside, but I'm not, because I'm catching up

in all this work.

I was talking to Eric about this.

I made my own personal thing that is just like my favorite app ever

for researching guys.

I do want to publicly apologize to everyone that I haven't

done my morning article and podcast as frequently as I've wanted.

I've just had so much more than I could

ever expect right now going on, and it's just,

it's tough to do it.

And I'm trying as best I can to catch up this week.

So I got out the article today.

I'm going to record that podcast after this with Eric,

but I am starting to really feel like I'm doing my homework now.

You know, we're doing like our rankings

and tough 100, we're trying to really understand it.

I'll be trying to get our flashcards ready.

But now I'm starting to really understand the intricacies

of each of these rotations,

who actually is going to get those starts

who isn't who are the ones that we actually really want to go for,

who are the ones that we might want to hold for that opening weekend

and who we don't.

It's really, really important.

And Cass, you couldn't agree more as she's,

she's, yeah, I can't wait for her top 100 to come out.

You know, as she just, she's poking her tail at everyone,

saying guys, you know, yarn, yarn, yeah, yeah,

I'm talking about you.

Yeah, and also like, listen,

we've gotten some drafts under our belt now.

You and I are in the same TGFBI,

which we'll probably talk a little bit about

on our next episode just going through like

what our actual strategy looks like in an actual draft,

like how did we do with our strategy and whatever.

I did it in OC last night,

which is an NFBC 12 team redraft.

And listen, like the strategy changes when you're in there

depending on your draft sought to.

But, you know, I, I have found like, you know,

the, the guys that we're going to get to today, right,

which is like, hey, these are the fun should be in a 12 team league.

The fun upside fires, you draft at the end of your draft

because this is outside of the top 76 pictures on Nick's list.

So hopefully you're not like looking for your SP4 or SP5

within a picture ranked, you know, outside of the top 80.

But these are the fun upside guys.

And I found myself looking at a lot of these guys

at the end of drafts.

And in the moment in a draft thinking,

I might just take a hitter and then just see

what the first week of the regular season looks like.

Because there are question marks on a lot of these guys.

There's maybe not the upside that we're used to seeing,

who knows some of these guys are maybe like safe and boring

and better for 15 team leagues.

And we're going to get into all that today.

So I'm going to go through the tier.

And we're not going to go deep dive

on every single picture within the tier.

I'm going to give you the tier and all the names.

And then Nick and I are going to pick the places we want to

like dive jump in based on pictures that we really like.

And hopefully that will allow us to talk about,

you know, some pictures deeper in Nick's rankings right now.

We're going to do it.

We're also going to do just a new quick theme

because it's hot and sunny outside Nick.

We're just going to do just, you know,

does it remind you the first day of spring?

Just anything about the first day of spring?

Is it a walk outside?

Is it switching from hot coffee to ice coffee?

I'm so happy you like coffee.

I don't like drinking ice coffee when it's 20 degrees outside.

Can't do it.

Whatever it might be for you.

You know, so that's what we're going to switch to for today.

We're starting with starting picture number 77.

And we should remind you this is the middle

of the hipster number one tier that started with number 73.

Andrew Painter number 74 Spencer Strider number 75 Logan Henderson 76.

Robbie snowing 77.

Braxton Ashcraft 78 Tanner Bobby and 79 Jack Flarety.

We're starting at 77.

Braxton Ashcraft and that's a good place to start because

he is one of these late round helium guys.

Braxton Ashcraft is getting a lot of love.

He seems locked into the Pittsburgh Pirates rotation right now.

And I'm curious if you believe that there is some legitimacy

to what you're seeing out of Ashcraft.

Yeah, you know, certainly got me more on the Ashcraft train.

I wasn't really enthused after last year and like what we saw of him.

I remember really the only game that was any good

was when we were waiting for Bubba Chandler's debut.

And he went five innings against the Rockies as we had to wait and wait and wait.

And that was Rocky Road, right?

Ashcraft has a really good slider.

It is 92.

It is good movement.

Like that's the pitch.

He has velocity.

It's not the most exciting velocity.

I don't think it has the greatest command either.

There is also a curve that is a good hard to playing curve.

I don't think he's as consistent as I want him to be on that.

And overall, it just doesn't quite come together

in the way of other exciting arms.

And I'll tell you this right now.

If Justin Mulski is inside the Dodgers rotation,

and I think he has or have him, then Braxton Ashcraft.

And I think he, I think he, I mean, I think he is.

We'll talk about that.

I had Braxton Ashcraft written up in an article I did over on NBC Sports

about like late round starting pictures that have top 25 upside.

And I go through like these criteria for me, which is like,

I think at least a chance to hit 130 innings because you kind of,

that's like, seems like a decent benchmark for top 25 upside.

Strike out upside, fastball success, deep pitch mix,

a couple of things that out to me.

First is, Ashcraft has never thrown more than 118 innings

in a professional season.

That's not to say he can't hit 131, 141, 50.

It's just something that doesn't matter as much in your 12th teamer too,

because it's a guy you expect to drop anyway.

So if he's pitching all the rapal and you gain value, that's great.

He had a 24% strikeout rate last year, 13.2% speaking strike rate.

As you mentioned, a lot of that is that the,

the slider is a really good speaking strike pitch to right handed hitters.

Like that is, that is a very legitimate pitch.

He also uses the slider to lefties.

It was his most used two strike pitch to lefties.

And it did have a 21% put away rate last year to lefties,

which is above average.

He has a curve which also had a 24% put away rate to lefties last year,

but he doesn't use it as much.

But like the breaking balls are fine.

The slider is really good and the curve ball is solid.

The forcing fastball is below average.

And that's kind of why people like talked about Braxton Ashcraft and Mike Burrows

in a similar way when they were both on the pirates last year.

It's like, hey, we've got some breaking balls that are interesting.

We've got velocity, right?

You're going to look at Braxton Ashcraft's velocity and you're going to say,

he's 97, how is it a bad fastball?

Well, it has below average extension.

It has just average vertical movement.

It's pretty flat, but he keeps it low in the zone instead of high in the zone.

And so velocity, guys.

Yeah, that's what that means.

So there are just some things about it.

It's like, you know, I do like that, you know, he has a sinker.

So he's not just forcing reliant.

He's got, you know, five pitches like that.

There are some things here where I think Ashcraft will be solid for you.

I just see him more as a guy where like in a 12 team league,

you run through like a really strong stretch of a few weeks where he's really solid for you.

And maybe he's on your roster for five, six, seven starts.

But then there might not be strikeout upside.

And maybe you don't want to hold him when he gets three starts in a row against the

met the Dodgers and the Phillies or whatever.

Like I think that's the boat you're in with Ashcraft.

Yeah. And so something I really do emphasize a lot is you want to be starting

pitchers the opening weekend or at least they're for the first third of the year,

especially if they're like an SP five.

And they're the one of the last guys you would drop.

And actually right now, believe it or not, during this podcast, I'm updating my daily SP Roundup

chart that has like all of the starting pitchers expected for every team.

And I updated throughout the spring to fill in like the SP fives.

And who's going to go where?

That's in my daily article.

And I know I haven't been updating it, but I did today just put it up.

And I'm actually adding in to that article the first two opponents that each team will face.

So you can get a good sense of who they're going to face.

And the Pirates the opening weekend are going to be in city field.

And then they're going into Cincinnati.

So when it comes to that rotation, well, it's going to be schemes and then Keller.

But it might be Ashcraft as the third because there would be the fourth.

And then I think actually Hosey or Kiti's the fifth, which is a really fun little mini-sleeper there

for only one or could be Hunter Barco is the other one.

Right, don't worry.

I got you.

He's actually question mark in that table.

It also Mildinsky as well.

Mildinsky is actually just through over 50 pitches actually near 60 you want to say.

So those are the three, but Hosey or Kiti's I kind of found money for the Pirates.

So I think that's what we're going to happen.

But my point is you don't want to start Braxton Ashcraft against the meds.

Right, or in Cincinnati.

Yeah, I mean, I would feel a little bit better about in Cincinnati, honestly.

But I would, there is a, there is an argument to me that it is opening weekend.

So at least you get something and maybe he impresses against the meds.

Then you might go to Baltimore, not Baltimore.

I apologize.

You'll be going into Wrigley next.

Not what you want either.

So I don't want to go for that kind of guy.

He might talk to me because Braxton Ashcraft, not getting the matchups you

want for a guy like that early on.

Yeah, I mean, yes, there's ways to overthink it and be like, well,

it's just if he starts Sunday, then maybe the meds aren't playing all their

starters and whatever.

But I take your point.

Bobby and Flairity, I think we kind of know who they are at this point.

I would say you're probably a little lower on them than consensus.

But I don't think you want to mention about that.

Yeah, Bobby is just roaming bonkers like for two years.

I was like, no, no, no, I don't buy this.

I don't buy this.

They finally did it.

I was like fine.

I'll give in whatever the results and everything is just working in the slider

in the or cutter and change up fine.

And the garden is a little loose, whatever, safe play.

And then he was just so bad.

And he was like my biggest loss last year.

I'm like, how did I, how did this happen?

Yeah.

So no, I won't buy into this.

I won't buy into the recovery of September.

I mean, it was really bad before that complete game shut out against the Tigers.

I don't think he's also fixed his slider.

Yeah.

Fair.

I hear you on that.

Like I, I have a little more faith in Bobby.

But you know, you, I would be putting him in the 60s, not the 70s.

Like you're, you're picking nits at this point.

Let's move to Toby's with upside number three.

And this starts with number 80 code.

I sang the number 81 Joey Cantio number 82 Bailey Ober number 83 Cody Ponce number 84 Brian

Bale number 85 Seth Lugo number 86 Landon Rupp number 87 Tyler Maui number 88 Max Scherzer 89

Quinn Priester 90 Ryan Wise 91 Shane Smith.

What's his tear called and why is it called that?

It's that screeching sound that you make opening a window that hasn't been open in months.

Is that a good sound?

It's a wonderful sound.

I apologize for that.

Yeah.

We should note very quickly on Quinn Priester that this was obviously written before

or published before these I, the note that Quinn Priester might not make his opening day start,

might not start the rotation or start the season healthy.

There was some concerning.

I blurbed this for us last week.

Actually, no.

Let's see NBC wrote a world.

Yes, wrote a world.

Sorry.

And there were some concerning comments from from Brewer's manager Pat Murphy where

they know the issue was in the wrist.

But they're trying to find out why the issue was in the wrist.

So Priester has had an elbow MRI.

He's had a shoulder MRI.

And all of that stuff is coming up with no structural damage, which is nice.

But it also means the brewers are struggling to find out why his wrist is still in pain

after having an offseason to deal with it.

And that is obviously less fine.

So I'm not optimistic right now that that Priester will just come right back into the rotation.

And this is reminding me a little bit of like what happened last spring with Sean Maniah,

where we said, oh, well, it's an oblique or whatever.

And he actually may be back at the end of spring.

And maybe he only misses two weeks.

And then all of a sudden that kept getting pushed back.

And then Maniah wasn't back until June.

And then his arm slot was also a mess because he was trying to figure out how to get back to that

after the injury.

And then it was just like not a really great season.

And I just think with with Priester, it was a really great story last year.

It's not like he has overpowering stuff.

So any changes to pitch movement location, things like that are going to be amplified with him.

And that's just not in a 12 team league.

That's just not a risk I'm taking right now at all while we have this vague health situation.

I mean, you're absolutely right.

This is the message that we're giving, right?

To that, if you have an injury ding during the season,

like there's no reason to go for it.

Not to mention, Quinn Priester wasn't this top 40 guy before and either.

So you combine those two and it's just an absolute stay away from me.

So I'm curious where you go in this tier.

I have a few names in this tier that I actually find really interesting.

And we don't have to go in order, but I'm curious.

If there's anybody here that you

find yourself kind of more inclined to take a gamble on.

Well, I would say that recently I am more intrigued obviously with like Cody Ponds

as I've talked about. I've talked about Ryan Weiss.

Tyler Malley has been circled to me as a sleeper for the entire time he's been a

San Francisco giant. The moment he signed, I've been like Tyler Malley is a perfect fit for this

as a guy who's been prone to home runs and I can certainly have them limited against the lefties

in that massive park in Oracle Park.

And also really good defense, even with a rice.

I said that every time but seriously, I think it's still good for him.

And he didn't pitch poorly last year.

Like he had a very successful season obviously with some fortune,

but it's not like we are off a 4-5 year race season for Malley.

His basketball is at 92-93 right now, which is good. We're cool with that.

It's not the 94-95 of the old, but it still has good vert.

He gets it upstairs, the slider and the splitter compliment it.

Well, I mean, it just seems like a guy that I'm going to have to make sure I get before you in TGFBI, Eric.

Yeah, and a 15 team league, I could see that.

You already got his teammate Robbie Ray right before me.

I did. He was like the biggest gap of value.

So yeah, I agree with that.

I'm curious why you alluded to Ryan Weiss real quick.

Do you think Ryan Weiss is in the rotation because it would need to be a six-man rotation

for him to make it?

Yeah, I mean, why wouldn't they?

When we see a pitcher like a my come in, it would be a six-man and that's what teams have done

in the past. Whenever you introduce a big name Asian pitcher who is not used to this kind of

workload. And if you also have Christian Javier and Lance McCullough's in your rotation.

That's right. And then you also have Hunter Brown who's been the workhorse and maybe

that's why you wouldn't because you really want to make sure that Hunter Brown goes more often.

As I've said many a time, it's very possible to still have him on a five-day schedule,

everyone else on a six. You have Ari Getty also in that mix too.

Ryan Weiss, it just makes all the sense that Ryan Weiss would be in this rotation because

that's why they got him. He has the volume. He has, like, it's a pretty cheap deal

with minor league options. We should just know.

With minor league options, yes, but this, again, is found money for the Astros. They're trying

to find that volume and not overwork these guys who have this injury history. So I would be

absolutely floored if the Astros looked at the rotation and said, you know what? Yeah, we're going

to disrupt who we think is going to be this innings eater throughout the entire soak of these

innings for us and try and get the most out of the injured guys as opposed to trying to manage

the innings across the others. Yeah. For me, the two names that stand out are actually the

two names at the top. I mean, they're other names.

Thank you. Yeah. Thank you. As a first thought I had. Yeah.

I think, I understand that he overperformed his underlying metrics last year.

When you look at what his surface level stats were and everybody would say, well, his ERA,

he didn't actually pitch that well and I get it. The injury he suffered is not an arm injury.

I think that's important to denote. And then a lot of the, I believe, a lot of the rust

and struggles at the end of the season. We're just coming back from an extended absence.

And also the Mets were under heavy pressure because they were had a lead collapsing

in the playoffs and they had called up these young arms. And so they were like, listen,

we're going to roll with these young guys and see if we can get into the post season.

I know that Senka's whole thing is a command. And so it's like, when you see these reports

about spring training, you're like, oh, he's 97. It's like, yeah, that's, that's great. But like

easy throwing strikes. And for me, the cutter has always been a big pitch for him because,

as you mentioned, it was a big addition to the second half of his first season.

And he, when he was able to establish the strike zone, he got so much better because we know he

has the swing and miss with that ghost fork. I just think when you're getting as late as you're

getting Kodai Senka right now, it's very rare that you're going to get a guy who legitimately has

like fantasy, sp two, sp three upside if he pitches the way he did pre injury. And you're getting

him at a point where like, if he doesn't pitch that way, you move on and you're not, you know,

you're, you're, you're none, you know, you're not worse for the wear in that sense. Like,

you're not going to be holding the bag. And again, good team, so good win totals. And then I

really like Joey Cantillo. I understand that he's got the Vulcan change. And it's really hard to

command that Vulcan change. Yeah. Oh, man, no wonder it's filthy. And he's not really good.

Trying to command it, but listen, I mean, I chatted with him in late August when he was playing

the meds. And he was very open about how pitching out of the bullpen helped him as a starter.

In terms of not only optimizing his pitch mix, but also like with his change up being like,

I'm going to throw this over the middle of the plate because it drops down. And I'm not going to

like worry about like hitting the knees, hitting the knee, whatever it was. But I just think

Joey Cantillo has a lot of upside on a team that's going to let him pitch. Like I think he's in

that rotation very firmly. They did their bullpen experiment with him last year. And he pitched

his way out of it into the rotation. I think he's in the rotation for a while. And I just think

Cantillo has a lot of upside. I'm really trying to get him in drafts wherever I can.

Yeah. Cantillo is someone that I'm okay with. Like, I feel like he's going to go back and forth.

He's going to be a bit of a hipster where you're going to have those like eight strike out games.

The change of just had nine over 19 whips, eight over 13 to right handers alone, which is just

so good. And it's really about, okay, please don't hit my four seamer because that is a very

hitable four seamer. And his command of that pitch has not been good. The bad news I have is

as first starts going to be in Los Angeles if he's a part of that rotation. They're going to

Seattle first. I would be shocked if he's in that first three, those first three games in that

rotation. There's really no way. But then again, we see weird rotations the start of the year.

Sometimes guys go, you know what? We're just going to throw this guy this one because this person

needs an extra whatever. So we'll see if Cantillo is actually locked as the one, two, three or the

third there, really. Great. I highly doubt it. Logan Allen has not impressed. He went to he's

pitching for Canada right now. He had a horrific game in his first one to the point that felt like

a kid who is hoping that his parents aren't watching when he when he does something because

are the guardians watching this game? I hope not. Please don't let this ruin my chance in the

rotation because Parker Messick is there. And I think all of us agree that Parker Messick is a

better pitcher than Logan Allen. However, Allen has gone more of the opportunities in spring

than Messick has as a starter. So it's interesting. Logan Allen just pushed one inning of relief,

though. And if even that, I think it was maybe by point two innings for Canada in the last game.

And I mean, obviously it's a different situation that we've seen all but that's not the best

thing for his case. Long story short, though, Cantillo does seem like yeah, he's in that rotation.

He's pitching the same days Logan Allen to just kind of interesting because maybe then it becomes

Parker Messick. I don't know what's going on. I'm okay with Cantillo. I just feel you're not going

to want to start him against the Dodgers. It might go okay, but there's going to be this oscillation

of him performing in nuts. And I'm trying as much as I can to avoid those even though I'm going to

get some promo with it with Sanga 95 to 96 in the fourth summer is a big deal because he wasn't

94. And it's his success in his first season is working year was all about Kodai Sanga throwing

these festivals and getting away with it. A because it was 95 96 and B because he had a cutter that

he was throwing inside the zone with it very effectively. Ghost fork and all. Yes, you have

your putaway pitch. Those were the two pitches, gain those outs and gain those strikes beforehand.

Everything else that he experimented with last year was just trying to help because he didn't

really have that cutter working. He didn't have the velocity with the fourth summer. It was better

in that first spring training start. And I'm a little more inclined to take a chance on Sanga here.

I call them Toby's with upside because they could be those six inning guys. And I know that

upside comes in not just the high strike out potential, but just in the volume potential of

quality ratios. Sanga has proven to be a little bit of both at times. And I would like to take a

chance on that, especially if he's hosting the meds. Sorry, the meds are hosting the pirates

opening weekend. And he's starting in that. Maybe I don't know what the meds are going to do

with the rotation. But then they go to St. Louis after. And I don't feel like you're going to drop

Sanga after those. So I am in on Sanga. I'm actually going to be raising him from that tier a little bit.

Yes. Come come with me. I think he's somewhere in the 50s for me. Okay. Okay. Well, let's

like a crazy. But yeah, he might he might miss that. Uh, you know that it's we know Freddie

Peralta. And then they may go. Manaya, they may go known McLean. They may go David Peterson.

You know, who knows what the meds are going to do after that? The Peralta start. So we'll see.

I have always been a fan of Landon Rupp. I remain a fan of Landon Rupp. I think I'm more

of a fan of Landon Rupp in a 15 team league. I just think that maybe the strikeout upside

is not what I hoped when he was making these pitch mix changes last spring. I think I like the ball

park. I like the team. I enjoy his overall pitch mix. I don't know that his raw stuff is enough

to get me super excited for like a big breakout. And I kind of feel the same way about Brian Bale.

I think it makes sense. You have them in the tier together where it's like, what's in the version

we saw of Bale last year was was really was a solid MLB pitcher and really good for your ratios.

And I think we're going to probably get that version of Bale again. I just don't know that like,

you know, the slider is ever going to be a big swing in mispitch. I know he went back to working

on the change up again this off season, but like we've kind of heard that for the last few years.

And so until I really see that change up go back to being a big swing in mispitch, I think you're

just kind of looking at like thinker cutter, you know, soft contact type of arm. And there's

value in that again, more of a 15 team. Okay, so I'm going to tell you a little bit more about Landon

Roup. And there was something I just saw that made me grimace and completely separate from these.

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So Eric, I just grimaced because I looked up Jamie Klanahan. And I have this again,

I have this lovely app that I've been working on. I couldn't help myself. Jamie Klanahan sitting

94 today. I'm a little perturbed by that. I concerned the first one was 93 80% it just needed

again on the field, all the narrative you want. You expected a little bit better than 94 in the second

one, right, Eric? Is that that's what you grimace about? It wasn't a landed repelated thing.

No, that didn't root. I'm actually kind of interested in and I'm going to tell you all about that

and Brian, Brian Bay, oh, I'm not. But I, but Lenin Roup, um,

Roup has a really good curve still. He needs to get a sinker inside more to write ease.

And the changeup was looking really good against lefties. I believe it was just yesterday.

So I think that Roup has all the tools that he needs. And I think he's just needs more time in

that rotation, honestly. And it looks like he's going to get that. He's he was paired with Blake

Tidwell yesterday. Tidwell went second and was way worse than Roup. He already has time in

that rotation. So I don't see why the giants wouldn't be going with him. There's also Carson

Wiesen Hunt. But we know that the commands still need some work there. And that'll be a fun one

to pick up midseason. But Roup is, Roup is an aeronolotype. And I think there is room to grow here

where we'll start to really see those strikeouts return again for him. So no, that wasn't the grimace.

Bayo's just eh. It's just not enough to chase. I thought you looked at the the

pitch list stats image that gave Len and Rupp and F stuff in his last appearance.

You don't worry about that, guys. Come on. It's okay. Sometimes that happens.

Yeah. Um, I think we covered most of these guys here. Shane Smith starting opening day for

the white socks against his old team. The brewers. That's just nice. Um, maybe get a little

second year improvement from from Shane Smith. Again, another guy in a 15 team league.

I have no problem with. Um, some interesting names in this next year. So let's jump into it.

It's the late upside tier starts with the 92 Jacolider, 93 Christian Javier, 94 Zebby Matthews,

95 Mike Burrows, 96 Grant Homes, 97 Grayson Rodriguez, 98 Spencer, Eric Getty, 99 Jacob Lopez,

100 will warm on 101 Reed Demars, 102 Ray Nalda Lopez. What's this tier called? And why is it called

you know, it's wearing a hoodie thinking like it's still a little bit cold and like realizing

what am I doing? Why am I wearing this? I mean, you get rid of the hoodie like you get rid of

these pictures or something. Yeah. And then I then I, you know, I open up a little bit and I go,

yeah, I don't, yeah, I don't need this. I don't need this. Um, there might be one or two pitches

in here that I need, but I want to just clump together these guys coming off injury who are in

the same tier. And that's Grant Homes with an elbow injury who is healthy, I guess, and pitching

for the Braves right now. Ray Nalda Lopez, also for the Braves coming off an injury healthy right

now in the rotation. Grayson Rodriguez missed all last year with shoulder, lat elbow injuries.

And then Spencer, Eric Getty, who is coming off a thumb injury and then a forearm or elbow

inflammation at the end of the year, but also as of right now, I don't believe is in that six man

rotation we were talking about with the Astros. Um, so I'm just curious, your comfort level with

these four guys coming off injury. Yeah. So Grant Homes went yesterday for Atlanta or two days ago

and not impressive. Worse lighter, not hard, he was saying his best stuff ever, you know,

like kind of stuff. And it's just no, you're not there yet. I mean, oh, first start of the spring,

fine, but like you would think, you would think he'd be further along. Maybe he's not, but

when we're talking about the end of our drafts, we're not going to assume things are going to get

better. We're going to say like they're good right now. You know, if they're not good right now,

then I'm not going to assume that they are. Maybe I'll change later. Um, you have Zebby Matthews,

who to me is just not showing enough. I got to say the fourth seamer is not exciting to me. It's

at 96 and not great movement. Um, it's not this overwhelming pitch. It's kind of empty velocity

in a way. And a little bit of hurt, but not enough while the slider and the cutter can be very good,

but I don't really think like he's doing the things you want. And I would avoid personally.

You have Grayson Rodriguez in here, who is sitting like 96. And that's okay. Like, I would

take a chance on Grayson Rodriguez. Maybe, maybe he's feeling all right. I don't understand this

whole thing that's going on with him. Like, why do the Orioles get rid of him for Taylor Ward?

If he's sitting 96 now, what are we missing on that? I don't know. I just don't know. I mean,

maybe it's going to be a elbow that's ready to explode or something. I don't know. Then you have

Jacob Lopez, who went yesterday, who wasn't terrible, but he still needs to get more command

and everything. He's another one coming off of injury and also in a bad home park. Those two

things make me a little concerned. Oh, absolutely. I mean, I don't want really any of these

on my 12-teamers. So my burrows, I'll take the chance on and I should move them out this year.

That's the one we just, we have to address because there is a lot of helium right now. I think A,

people were interested in Mike Burrows at the end of last year because he pitched pretty well

for the pirates. And it was starting to be like, okay, maybe Mike Burrows could take a leap.

Then he gets traded to the Astros. And I think people's ears perk up when good organizations trade

for players who we think have some upside. And then Burrows also like so far this spring has

leaned into the sinker like a lot more often than he did with the pirates. And that was kind of like

a, that was a big thing for him again. We talked about how like the four seam is not a great pitch.

So using the sinker more often to hide the four seam is probably a good thing for him. And then

the Astros also seem to have tweaked his slider, which is like basically like two and a half

miles an hour harder. It's almost like a 90 mile an hour slider now. So it's a little bit more of

like a gyro e type slider. Now I don't know that you needed to mess around with that pitch.

But I will say that like the strike rates on it in spring are really good. So maybe by tightening

it up and making it harder, they're hoping to keep the whiffs but also improve his ability to

throw it for strikes. So he could be a lot more sinker and slider reliant to write ease and not

have to be so four seam reliant. And I'm not pushing him up my draft board where like I need to

get this guy like I don't want him. I'm not trying to get him as one of my top five, maybe even six

pitchers in a 12 team. But I have no problem with this with Mike boroughs being one of my preferred.

I've got my starting pitchers. I need dart throws now because there I see how this works.

On a good team. Yeah. So that slider got four of his eight whiffs in that game on on the sixth

on the spring training game Mike boroughs. And that's great because

really it's just change ups only before. The four seamer and sinker to me are just not good.

94 95 good velocity fine. Sub 16 v. It's okay. It's like the sinker bad like 13 13 on that you

know 13 maybe 14 horizontal. That's just not a good sinker. And you'll be playing a lot of

the game of keep away with those. Yes. So when it's just a change up it's not really exciting.

However 8 990 of that slider it is a big vert one like it is seven inches of vert which is

really like a cutter honestly more so than a slider at that point. Like if you think of a typical

gyro slider that's a that's a standard one that is zero zero right on that plus seven inches

a lot moving up. And that's generally cutter territory especially when it's like harder right

I would say if boroughs were to throw a gyro it would be like 85 86 or something which is kind

of what it was last year. And I I'm okay with it. Like I would go for this over everyone in this

tier. I can't wait to put out my new top 100 on Thursday because there are a lot of the

little adjustments I have to make here like okay hold on Tyler Malley and Mike burrows they need to

get out of this a bit they need to move up could I say can he move up a bit with a lot of the

other ones I'm just like we're moving those down. And with burrows yeah take a shot on it he should

I'm trying to remember off the time I had before cheating and looking my article.

But right now with the Astros brown in my Javier burrows that's your four that is locked okay.

Lance McCullough's probably not healthy I don't know but if he's healthy enough to start the

season which he appears to be he's he's probably he's in he has no options they're not going to

send him down. Well they could put him honestly in long relief if they wanted to but they he hasn't

to start the game yet they can't put him in long relief though because or they could but right

now long relief is slated to be Rotary Munoz who's a rule five pick. Oh yeah so they can't they

could just have him in the pen to right they and they listen I mean no disrespect to Rotary Munoz

the the Astros made decide they would rather have McCullough's in the bullpen but yeah I think

McCullough's is the the question mark here McCullough's and Weiss to me are five six

and if McCullough's isn't healthy enough and he starts the year on the I.S. Well time out.

Oh yeah five six I apologize yes yeah so then I think right now Ryan Weiss has the inside track

and McCullough's in my point. Sure maybe yeah and yeah I mean and to your point we we have not seen

McCullough's we haven't seen pitch he has one spring inning one spring inning one when was it

I'm just looking at fan graphs he has one spring inning three batters faced trying to find

there I'd have to look back for the exact date okay cool anyway right so I'm not thrilled about

that and it does those seem like right burrows isn't there he's the number four and who are they

going to get they're going to go into launch angels angels and then it's into Fenway I wish

I knew it was either three or four for the angels let's say it goes into Fenway are you going to

start burrows in Fenway for his first start no no I mean I would ideally not if he goes and

starts against the angels though yeah I would love that okay so that I mean I think that's a really

big deciding factor because where burrows is going right now is around pick 260 to 70 right so

if you're not going to start with that first one we know that he's going against the red socks

in Fenway I just wouldn't I don't feel like I this is the guy because those four seamers and

singers are just not good and that's just the the case and I hopefully this new slider is a much

better slider and is very effective I'm not going to judge on four whiffs in one game

because it doesn't have that aggressive movement that you want to see so I like the edition

it's just we got a temporary our expectations totally totally fair I will just say very quick

before we move to the next here I will be Charlie Brown in the football again with Reed Demmer's

I'm just not I'm not going to fully quit it and the because the price hasn't risen beyond

hey I'm taking him with one of my final starting pitcher spots and we'll see if the time in the

bullpen where he really did optimize his pitch mix and I spoke with him in Arizona and he mentioned that

you know he's not obviously coming into the season saying like this is my exact usage down to

the percentage but what he learned as a reliever will be brought into what he's doing as a starter in

terms of how he went more slider focused went away from the four seamer he's bringing back in a change

up that he hadn't you that he didn't have to use as a reliever so I'm willing to take gambles on

a guy who once was like a really well regarded prospect who was probably rushed to the big leagues

a little too soon using time in the bullpen to kind of like figure some some things out and so I'll

take a gamble there there are a lot of gambles that we could take in this next spot as well we will

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add free included with prime so this tier is the possible job upside tier obviously here being guys

were not confirmed are in the rotation but guys who have upside if they make a rotation that starts

for the number one oh three rookies isaki one oh four Jacob lats one oh five Justin Robleski one oh

six Kyle Harrison one seventeen mcable one oh eight Parker Messick one oh nine Ben Casperius one

ten Lucas geolito what's his tier called wise call back um this is a going to a bar and outside

oh sitting at the outside bar it feels like oh I can do this again and like you you go there

and you go man can we just can we do this more often because it's a possible job like man why

why can't we just live this live yeah I love it um we already mentioned uh Parker Messick before

so we'll just say that Nick and I are both fans of Parker Messick if he was in the starting rotation

I'd imagine both of us would have him much higher our gut is that he probably won't start the

year in the rotation but is certainly somebody you need to keep in the back of your head that if he

gets he will in my opinion he will eventually get a shot over Logan Allen and you should jump when

he does um Ben Casperius right now is not going to get a shot in the Dodgers rotation so that's

something that would change in the future this is geolito currently does not have a job it's the only

the only time I think I've ever rooted for a Dodgers trade oh yeah I just want them to have a trade

of some superstar that includes Ben Casperius getting out of there because the guy deserves to start

somewhere yeah and you know what he still might at some point this year but it's not going to happen

at the beginning um and Lucas Geolito is without a team so uh we're still waiting on that let's let's

go at the Dodgers here 103 Roki Sasaki 105 Justin Robleski there is a world where um both of them

make the rotation if the Dodgers use a six man rotation because um you know just to worry about like

Yamamoto glass now and Otani being like with the innings we know Emmett Sheen is also in this rotation

so that makes four now Roki Sasaki would be five he has not had a good spring and he has

and he has minor league options and he's 24 years old and I think we just have to like wrap our heads

around the fact that I know he was a big name signing and he still may very well wind up being good

and I don't believe that he is a reliever right now Katie Wu who covers the Dodgers for the athletic

made it very clear that they see him as a starter and they want to give him the chance to be a starter

but he has three minor league options and so that chance to be a starter does not have to happen

at the major league level and so he right now is not pitching his way into this rotation

and so I think there's a really strong possibility that he opens the season as a starter in AAA

and then the final spot is between Justin Robleski and River Ryan and I think right now

Robleski is ahead of River Ryan in because of one performance and two he'd be the only left-handed

starter in the rotation because Blake Snell is going to start the year on the I.L. and three

he's done it more recently yes River Ryan missed all last year with an injury and even though

he told me again in spring he said I was healthy at the end of the last year and I wanted to pitch

but the minor league seasons were all done so we had a long conversation about do I pitch out of the

bullpen in the playoffs and they decided that wasn't the best course of action after missing the

entire season so this is another picture where like ostensibly he's healthy he claims he's healthy

he claims he was healthy in September of last year but it's hard to know that for sure until we

actually see him on a mound for a long competitive game I like River Ryan I think he's going to get

chances this year and I would be interested when he does get chances and I think if he and Rocky

Sasaki start the year in the AAA rotation there's a very strong likelihood that River Ryan gets an

opportunity before Rocky Sasaki does but I agree with you that I think Robleski is getting the

the first shot here so yes completely I think Robleski is just the clear option Sasaki is just

not that good it's an empty velocity for simmer it is it's very hittable yes the splitter can be

very good it's volatile more to 11 and the slider is fine it's fine but it needs to be elite for him

to mask the fact that his for simmer gets hit it's just how it is if you want to nick but that

is not like Trey and his savage I totally understand that I think the slider is better for his

savage and I think that the fork ball is more consistent for his savage but that's another story

yeah he should go to the minors and I don't understand why the giant the giant hole the Dodgers

the Dodgers would not do a six man rotation after just showcasing how it works and winning a world

series with it why not why why not and you like you have to preserve the health of these guys you

know this you just made it work and you have the arms maybe it's even landing knack in a bullpen day

for the sixth one right I don't know it makes no sense but if just Robleski is not in that rotation

I am going to be so upset I'm going to be texting everyone I know and just get me their number

you know get me on the line like it is ridiculous to me and I do think that Robleski is a very good

picture he's not as impressive right now like yesterday he went he was fine he wasn't overwhelming as

we've seen him before but he has a very large mix it is a good mix it's 95 versus from the left

side you have a good slider you've got a cutter in there you got a curve you got all the things

and yes he has like one the worst extensions in the majors it's okay he's gone past this

it doesn't I'm not going to look at that right now be nice if he didn't but you know right and

yeah I think that you have a very good starter in Robleski that should happen if it is river Ryan

I don't love his fastball and I think it's worse than what we saw before which is a little

disappointing or maybe I just know more now I don't know and this the breaking stuff is great

it is really good on this I think it's a cutter in a slider they're excellent maybe it's a

slider in a curve his two they're both dope it's awesome so that might be good enough for me too

if river Ryan is in that rotation yeah I'm going to take a chance I'm river Ryan if it's

Robleski I'm going to go after that one and you're asking Nick okay you got to tell me who were

they facing right because that's the whole thing about these guys at the end of these drafts

who were they going against well this would be hosting the guardians sign me up for that

in Los Angeles that would be the second series the first one is against the Arizona

DMX hosting them either one honestly I'd be fine starting river Ryan or adjustment of Leski

yeah I'm moving Robleski up for mine I just think I waited too long to you know acknowledge

that he's going to take that spot I'm a fan of that in this tier like we also have to mention

how good Mick Abel looks this spring oh my gosh Mick Abel guy and listen like I've heard

enough Aaron Gleeman who covers the twins for the athletic made it pretty clear that the twins

want Taj Bradley in the rotation because he's been in the big leagues for a long time he has the

track record they traded for him so I don't know that it matters how Taj Bradley looks this spring I

think he's going to be in the rotation which means that it's probably shaping up to be and I

think Simions would Ritchie Simion would Richard's in is also going to be in the rotation he pitched

well enough down the stretch last year that I think he gets the shot which means I think it's between

Mick Abel and Zebi Matthews for the final spot I had taken the stance that I think Zebi would

get the first shot because he's been with the organization longer he's had MLB experience with

the twins they want to give him another crack and I think that still could be how it plays out

but he is not looked nearly as good as Mick Abel has looked this spring and I it's hard to make

a case for putting Zebi Matthews in that rotation over Mick Abel and so but I think you keep

miss you have to keep Mick Abel in this territory right now because we really don't know

so I will say this I mean where we are again is the last round or two right and if Mick Abel

is in the rotation let's ask ourselves this where do we rank him oh I mean I would rank him up

where I had Andrew painter at least right okay yeah and so for me that was

he's going into Kansas City like I had him around I have painter at 63 around Tanner

Bobby and Ryan Nelson I'd probably put Mick Abel I put I mean right Nelson definitely ahead

yes but in that in that range yeah so yeah I would put Mick Abel past the IELT or so that's the

cliff right and the past the Toby two that's after that and then it's kind of like the fun guys

like okay go I'm going to be targeting a fair number of these I would certainly put Mick Abel there

and I will mention I don't let's say we don't know which we don't right now we should be putting

Mick Abel on right underneath that right underneath that's here because it's not confirmed and you'd

be able to swap him for anyone and you you want if he's not like this is very binary which is great

in not all situations binary great but it's this is a case where you're happy that you know to move

on from him if he's not in it and you don't lose value it's not a hipster now he could be one

to be fair this isn't like all of a sudden he's a top 40 starter or something like that they're

very well could be some growing pains he throws hard he has breaking balls that look great he has

a change up that's great but the command is still getting there a little bit he can certainly get

chaotic at times and I think that over you know over a season maybe a couple months or so like

that's going to be much better and I do see that seven percent under walk rate being an easy

goal for Mick Abel by the end of the year but it's not going to be necessarily a must add

when he gets it so it doesn't bring some hesitation and but yeah I'd probably put him after that

that's second tier after the aisle guys we should note zubbie Matthews pitch today

uh allowed six runs on six hits in three and two thirds innings against the braves

velocity continues to be down across the board about a mile and a half on his fastball almost over

two miles an hour on his sinker some of like the breaking stuff on the off speed pitches I'm not

reacting to too much because it looks like there's some also just some changes right like he's

down six miles an hour on his curve ball that's clearly a new curve ball or he's working on

something with his curve ball but um I mean the forcing fastball being down over a mile and a half

and getting zero whiffs on 15 swings um is is not great uh the six runs in three and two thirds is

not great it it's it's just hard to make the case right now for zubbie over Mick Abel so I will

mention the um with my lovely app I can see this uh the first inning he got overworked a lot

he had to get pulled in the first and that's where he had eight runs total I mean I guess the total

for the for Atlanta but um he had six runs in that inning to him before uh he uh I've run uh

for my uh Romero came in after sorry and he was sitting 93 93 93 in this first batter and then

got up to 95 96 uh and then down to 94 95 uh in that first and then by the fourth inning his final

inning um he was sitting 95 zubbie Matthews so just to give you perspective he was sitting 96 plus

last season and not quite there now and what we'd like to say is the young guys who are battling for

rotation spot do not consider them as the ones who are ramping up they are trying to get their

rotation spot so they are what we should expect from them and yeah this isn't good it just

it just isn't good he's getting a little more cut action on that four seamer fine by the the

cutter and the slider are just not getting it done I mean it's a lot over the middle of the play

I'm curious to see what our pictures card looks like on them uh the change up all over the place

he's someone who can throw strikes but they're hitable strikes they're like not I've been saying

this for ages zubbie Matthews throws in the zone comfortably not I not like as a picture you know

not really executing the edges right well so yeah I might go to make able let's see what his next

start is and I might completely change the narrative yeah last one I want to ask you about in

this particular tier and then I'll just see if well I guess last two um let's just real quick

there's been a lot of Kyle Harrison chatter yeah on the timeline in particular with the change up

what did you see because you know the pitch list stats tweeted some stuff out you commented on the

pitch list stats tweet so what have you seen from the Kyle Harrison um data and do it but do

you actually think that he gets the fifth spot if prester is on the sidelines to start the season

look at that reporting from Erickson Moskey being on top of it knowing that I tweeted about the

Kyle Hendrick uh Kyle Harrison started oh my gosh just at Hendrick so what a career that was um

but uh but yeah with uh with Harrison his change up did not have as extreme movement same thing

with weather's by the way but it was still very good it was better than it was last year for

Harrison not commanding it away to write ease you know so it's not like it's uh exactly where we

want it to be but it it was a good start 95 miles per hour on the four same as well it's a good

looking uh slurve I guess to plan curve it's a little bit harder on the typical one I do have my

questions about the consistency and uh in locations from Harrison's always been my biggest question

with him but seeing that velocity up at 95 with this improved change up it makes a lot of sense

concerning the old Kyle Harrison just really didn't have it the only time I saw him with a proper

change up was his very last game in San Francisco against the Rockies in course I remember this round

up so vividly I was pumped Erick uh here he was finally looking like a swatch he was throwing

these changeups the righties and Harrison was killing it in course and I said I can't wait for

his next start in in an Oracle Park and then he gets traded and we don't really see him again

and then here's this change of now as and it is a better one which he learned in the

offseason from a giant picture oh that's funny um so funny like I guess he went to I want to say

drive line but it might be one of those throwing programs but he went in the offseason and learned

the change up from one of his former teammates and what's hilarious is that I've seen only remarks

about how good the brewers are right you know as a guys that there's so much that goes into development

and everything so I mean I'm in I'm interested I would certainly go after this I think he's in the

rotation there has been some conversation a priester with Woodruff it's really hard to envision

the the brewers trading for this and denying their lefty starter the only lefty that would be in

that rotation well or or Robert Cassar but yes he's certainly ahead of Cassar I believe I believe

so based on how he's looked the spring yet yes and uh so Mizraowski Henderson Harrison Patrick

Gasser it's broke or the six options in the moment regardless of or outside of Woodruff and Priester

let's say both of those two guys are healthy the brewers have said that Chad Patrick is in it

and obviously so is Mizraowski so that would be between Harrison and Henderson but I would think

it's still even be Kent Harrison then because they need that South fallen if Harrison's pitching like

this yeah so I would feel confident with that first weekend is hosting the white socks

and then they are hosting the rays so down for that so yeah circle Harrison as a guy that I would

love to have near the enemy draft as just all right let's go for one start and take it from there

yeah um last one another lefty in this tier where you add on Jacob Lats it seems like Jacob Lats

is going to be in the rotation for the Rangers um I wrote about him also in that late round pictures

article and I really do like Jacob Lats but you know you and I chatted about this I came

way with the article saying hey I think you could really use a sinker um would be really nice if

you could use a sinker if you had a sinker we get anything on this uh of reaching out to the

Rangers being like why do you not throw sinkers with your lefties inside to other lefties

Cole Reagan's then do it he still doesn't do it we hope to see it from a Kenzie Gore

uh it's it's very interesting to me uh we also had Cody Bradford I don't think did it

when he was a lefty woman it's just a weird trend that we've seen with these Rangers

pictures yes and yeah he absolutely could use that he throws four seamer slider against them

right now the four seamer is a good vert pitch uh 16 to 17 is a little bit of a high arm angle

though so it's not really that fantastic it's also less extension than we've seen from last before

he was like six seven and now it's six four uh in this spring so that's a little concerning uh

hopefully he gets that one back but the change of command his last game was really nice the right

handers all down in a way I've seen him in the past go up in a way arm side and it looks like he's

properly getting on top of it now which is dope he's got a little extra depth on it too uh three or

15 whiffs on that when I think it should get better over time so I'm I'm fine with it like I'm not

thrilled I don't feel as if lats is like this breakout star uh until he adds something else when

comes a Velo when it comes to maybe his slider being more consistent hopefully against lefties or

that sinker coming in against lefties as well there needs something else to really take him over the

hump um but yeah the the the rangers are facing um let's see what was it the uh they're facing

the Phillies in Philadelphia which I don't want but then they'd be going to Camden and I think lats

against Orioles I don't really love it honestly I think that's a much better offense this year than

we've been giving them credit uh I would be a little worried of that um but it's yeah I'm not as

interested in lats as others I would say there's actually a different lefty that we didn't mention

there's the last one we're going to mention which is Matthew Liebertor yeah I was okay I'm glad

you brought that up because he he's he is not in this tier no um but I should I'm also like where

is Matthew Liebertor yeah I was I would have run down and leave it's 40 well you're saying

you like that but I understand the tiers of my top 200 are prospects show up and then all the

stuff and it's like all right 15 team Toby Liebertor but Liebertor is actually look pretty good

this spring you want today 7k 16 whiffs on 65 pitches eight at a 19 on the slider are you are you

kidding I mean I know that spring training um the blights yeah I mean okay this isn't the best

Baltimore lineup ever this is actually like a really bad Baltimore lineup as Kobe Mayo uh and

her sting curse dad but that's it everyone else a leody to various but that's it so I mean like I

don't want to read too much into that but yeah he's at 93 94 he's he has cut action as for

Seymour if as long as he gets that in the right hands we actually really wasn't here the cutter

wasn't really right there but he was away with this change up slider was feeling good against lefties

and it's a good situation it's really nice being a six inning guy in St. Louis he's better than like

Miles Michaelis and he's had some weird starts there too you know so look I'll start him against

the raise opening weekend yeah um I will end this by shouting out one guy as well well you know

I think they're two back-to-back I guess we'll end with these two pitches who are back-to-back

it's a one 19 one 19 Kade Cavali and 120 Johan Oviato because to me they're similar in the way that

like if you look at Ross stuff you could say hey these guys are really intriguing but command has

been a major issue and they still be a major issue but they both look relatively good this spring

the last two starts Oviato has not walked a batter and the forcing command has been a lot better

for Oviato the last two starts and I know like I tweeted something else about it and people are like

well he was facing a terrible lineup and for me with Oviato I don't really care who he's facing

in spring it's can I throw the fastball for strikes because command of the fastball for Oviato

is always going to be the biggest issue I think he's pretty much locked into the Red Sox fifth spot

in the rotation and so if you are at the end of a draft and you're like hey I want to take a gamble

and see if something works if if his command clicks or the forcing command clicks you know it's an

interesting team context and a lot of upside there and then Cavali was somebody who was a really

well-regarded prospect had surgery inconsistent results you have to imagine he's in the nationals

rotation for the entirety of the season they have no reason to pull him from the rotation but

the team may be terrible yeah I really just I'll put it this way I don't like trusting

pictures who I think are going to ultimately be inefficient and do not have the leash of the

veteran guys I don't see either of these really being super efficient pictures and for 12

teamers that puts them into hipster tier and I just I can't go for it as much as I've been like

I remember when Oviato was on the I want to say the Cardinals or the Cardinals before the Pirates

yeah it was which was first it was the Cardinals right yeah yeah that I remember that like three

or four years ago and I had a friend Michael Scott actually asking me about him and yes that's

his name he's named before the show guys he's a great dude you probably met him at first pitch

Arizona and I and I remember saying like yeah but he's got a lot to figure out still but like he's

got great breakers and that fast will actually looks really good it's just the command and I've

been saying that for four years or whatever and I've been waiting for this one to work out I can't

buy into it yet Kate Cavali I still worry is just a really good curve ball it's I know he throws

hard but the four seamer is not a whiff pitch the better one is really the sinker that can be

two-plane kind of like normal plane but can he actually command it that consistently I don't know

and even then it's a sinker it's equivalent to sinker sweeper guy and that still opens them up for

problems against lefties I just can't get behind that one either and I don't have the faith in

the nationals coaching staff I know that they've improved it I know they've changed it at least

but I still can't tell you if that's good or bad yet so I'm out on both of those I would much

rather have Matthew Libertor yeah I when I say I'm intrigued by Oviato I currently have him

a hundred and seventy oh my god saying how close our rankings were Eric I got to say well no

it all yeah I guess so well I am and I moved him up to that too but like I have him ahead of some

of the red socks guys that you like I have him head ahead of Connelly early and Peyton told

even though I think they're born now they will be as a spot but you know I have him in a tier with

with guys like honestly I have him in a tier with guys like Parker Mech and Parker Messick E and C

more it's like those guys don't have rotation spots I like them better than Oviato but Oviato

has a rotation I'm gonna have Oviato ahead of them because what's the point I do not stash a

starter yeah so you might as well go for something and hope for the best as opposed to not having

something and later hoping for the best so then I now have Oviato one oh nine okay which is with

like Kyle Harrison Ryan Weiss like you say you say kakuchi like guys were in the rotation where I'm

like whatever I would I would have a some separation but yeah I think that like for Ryan Weiss

for example I think it's made more efficient than not Oviato is going to be possibly and same

thing with girls so believe that is going to do it for this episode that's going to do it for our

our our jaunt through Nick's rankings so we are going to start looking ahead next episode next

episode will probably go over some of our TGFBI stuff well I have rankings update coming out

lots right I have my rankings coming out on Thursday and then it's going to be another Thursday

after that and then it's going to be Monday because of course you have draft weekends and then I want

to have like the normal cadence of Monday before the season starts maybe I'll make it Wednesday just

to be like here's my last official ranking before the season starts but I regardless we'll probably

talk about those changes and whatever changes those are or the things that Eric and I will want to

discuss because it is spring training and those are the guys they're going to be of interest anyway

and we will also Nick and I will both be at tout this weekend oh yeah you're in New York City guys

hang out with us yeah I will be hanging out on Sunday morning at the Bellevue hotel and I

draped at 2 p.m. on Saturday um yeah let me coach that by the way we will we will probably we'll

probably like address those drafts not like in a deep dive but you know being in drafts and doing

two drafts together oh last couple weeks crystallizes some of the thought process on who you're going

after why and some things like that so we will talk through those what I'll probably do is give a

full-on video review um via my phone on to twitter right after the draft so that is where you'll get

my thoughts probably on tattoos um and Eric you uh maybe if I'll see you I'll see you on Saturday

now I'll probably get it from you yeah I'll tell you I'll give you the lowdown and maybe there'll be

an article on NBC Sports I'll let everybody go uh until then I am Eric Svonsky the Pelican

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