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Patrick Elvine, relieved of his duties as general manager

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Well, the news comes officially this morning.

The Vancouver Conox, a little before 7 a.m.

release a statement from Jim Rutherford, president of hockey operations

announcing that Patrick Elvine has been relieved of his duties as general manager

of the 12th general manager in the history of the Vancouver Conox franchise.

He was hired January 26, 2022 as the 12th GM.

Some seven weeks after Jim Rutherford was appointed the president of hockey operations.

And words started to leak out last night following the Vancouver Conox final game of the regular season.

And he lost in Edmonton, the Swedish newspaper newspaper, often blad it was reporting that Patrick Elvine was fired.

And yes, this was the first Swedish general manager in NHL history.

So it stands to reason that the folks across the way in Sweden had a big interest in that news was confirmed

this morning from various media outlets.

And then the conox came out with their statement like just your reaction.

Well, I mean, I think most of us saw some sort of change coming in.

He is, he and Adam foot were the prime candidates, of course, for a change to occur.

I'm a little bit curious that the two didn't get fired in tandem.

I think that it casts a little bit of doubt.

And now it's going to get fired because why would you have two bad news days?

Why wouldn't you have one bad news day?

Patrick Elvine, to me, was, I mean, his error is very undefined.

I mean, it's like, I don't know that I can put a finger on Patrick Elvine's tenure here.

It feels like Jim Rutherford's tenure.

This is the problem with these shifting of names of titles that has occurred in the National Hockey League,

where the president has a lot of say in hockey ops as well is that this almost just feels like an AGM got fired.

And, you know, we wouldn't be doing an emergency podcast for that.

So it's a little bit funny.

I don't know what influence he necessarily had in the Cucks.

And if he even deserves this, Matt, that's also the interesting part of your is,

you know, this is Rutherford's baby.

If this is Rutherford's boat, is it not on him here?

No.

This failure to become a contender?

Yeah, very good points there.

One is Patrick Elvine's scapegoat or the Vancouver Canucks going to try and get away with just this change after one of the worst,

if not the worst season in franchise history.

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You make a very good point, Blake, in terms of Adam foot.

And if you're moving on the coach, do you want to have another bad news day?

Of course, the other person there is Jim Rutherford.

I'm not sure Jim Rutherford is quite out of the woods yet.

But this very much does look like a Jim Rutherford decision in the aftermath.

And who knows it may even be an attempt to save his own hide here.

Look, his record as Vancouver Canucks general manager is an above five,

101 NHL wise, 172, 150, and 45.

Now he had, he had some degree of control.

We had talked about this often, Blake, that.

Well, Jim Rutherford was absolutely involved in the big traits the Canucks made over the years.

So, a last-line home, Nikita Zadorov, going back last year, JT Miller, Marcus Patterson,

and of course, most famously, Quinn Hughes earlier this year.

Patrick Elvin did a lot of the minor traits.

And at one point did have some degree of authority there to execute traits

and conduct business on the Canucks behalf.

Of course, he was being mentored by Jim Rutherford.

That was the arrangement that Canucks fans were sold at the beginning of this regime

that you would have the wise old hand as president of hockey operations.

Jim Rutherford doing the big picture stuff while Patrick Elvin,

a first-time general manager, was doing the nitty gritty.

Certainly after the Elias Patterson, JT Miller,

Bruhaha began last year.

Jim Rutherford put both hands back on the wheel.

And then I think it became clear at last year's trade deadline

when the Canucks did virtually nothing outside of trading cars in Susie for a middle-round draft pick.

And the failure to trade Brock Bessler, a UFA to be that disastrous press conference

he held on trade deadline day, Blake, where he talked about, oh, if I told you the offers I got for Brock Bess,

or I'd have to run out of here.

Somewhere around then, if not before, when the Miller trade happened late January,

Rutherford put both hands back on the wheel.

And I think at that point, you were talking about AGM in name only effectively, as you say, an AGM.

Yeah, that might be true that it ebbed and flowed.

But ultimately, if you're merely the guy making Carson Susie for prospect trades,

I mean, are you a GM really at all?

That sounds like a shopkeeper more than anything else.

And I think this feels incomplete.

And this feels like scapegoating to me.

If this day had been both of them alveying and foot even,

then it sort of starts like, it sounds like your Jim Rutherford sounds like he's saying, OK, I'm cleaning house.

And I'm bringing back new voices and the important roles.

But when you take out the patty, it just kind of feels like you got two buns left left behind here.

I'm not sure what the connects have or what they think they're changing here.

Much less the fact that, you know, if Rutherford's around, he gets, he's just getting another kick at this can here.

And if Rutherford's around, man, who's taking this job outside of Ryan Johnson?

Like, Ryan Johnson will happily take this job?

Well, I won't even say happily, Matt.

I think Ryan Johnson will take this job.

But I'm sure he would love to be a GM with full autonomy somewhere else.

Then be a GM with some autonomy here.

And since you bring him up, let's get to the surf on Gaffarch tweet, because Erf doing some reporting here.

And this is quite interesting.

Gaffarch tweets with Patrick Alveen out as GM, the connects are going to really take their time and hiring his replacement.

Want to go through, want to go to a thorough process and speak with many candidates have to take their time and do it right.

I think you're right, Blake, in terms of most connects fans waking up to this news, probably just jump to the conclusion.

Oh, they're going to elevate Ryan Johnson.

And remember what John Shannon told us earlier this week on Secarrison Price.

The Ryan Johnson signed a four year lucrative contract with the Vancouver connects with the idea that he would be part of the future managerial future going forward.

So that is a very interesting note from Erf that there would be a search here.

Now sometimes teams just say there's going to be a search. They got their guy.

This team said that.

Yeah, this team said that before.

And ultimately there's been no search the next day.

That is hiring dog and pony show.

We remember Francesco's global search for his next soft hockey chief in 48 hours later.

There was Jim Rutherford.

The writing was on the wall, though, I think at the time of the Queen Hughes trade.

First of all, it was quite clear that Jim Rutherford executed that trade with his former deputy Bill Garen.

And there is a line of thought in the National Hockey League circles belief that Patrick Elvini is going to get a landing here in Minnesota with his old friend Bill Garen.

They were both, of course, deputies to Jim Rutherford in Pittsburgh.

But on December 16th, Blake, this was four days after the Queen Hughes trade headline in the province newspaper Patrick Johnston.

How Jim Rutherford.

No, Mike, that's we'll get.

Yeah, there we go.

How Jim Rutherford convinced ownership to rebuild and Jim Rutherford is in that piece talking about a rebuild fast forward one week from then.

December 23rd and Patrick Elvini.

And I believe this was on an Amazon prime game where he was one of the intermission guests talked about retool a little bit with a hybrid form.

Now he had become a little bit accustomed to mixed messaging from Rutherford and Alvin.

And we had chalked it up to the fact that Rutherford is a straight talker.

He speaks with the authority of the franchise.

Alvin is a first time general manager in his second language.

He's a little more political. He's not as willing to share.

And that's what contributed to some disconnects over the previous three plus years in terms of what Rutherford had been saying and what Alvin had been saying.

When it got down to that, Blake, when the messages were so off kilter between the two of them in the aftermath of the Queen Hughes trade.

If the writing wasn't already on the wall, I think the writing was absolutely on the wall following that.

Yeah, and let's face it, his English is pretty darn good.

And that was just he does not struggle in English.

No, and that's garbledy goop.

Retool a little bit with a hybrid form.

It's almost like he was trying to speak like he thought general managers in the national hockey league spoke.

Yeah, I'm going to speak analytically or something, but in the end, it just sounds like I don't know, like hockey Picasso, like, you know, it's it's cubist hockey language and it's it's it speaks to I think two guys that were on different pages by the end of it.

And you know, obviously this is a move that needed to happen.

Yeah, maybe Alvin's on his way to the wild is as prognosticated. Maybe, maybe bracket would be a candidate here.

If he's going to continue to be out of contract with the Minnesota wild, you know, so it could be a dose.

So we'll see what happens now. We'll have more on the main secarison price show later today.

A programming note there. We are going to start that program at 1230 today, 1230 Jim Rutherford is due to speak at noon Pacific time at 10 a.m.

The players will start trotting out for their end of season media availability is then Jim Rutherford at noon.

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