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Now Barthe is the in-for-big jammer, and our update studios will do some football later

on this hour as well, but as promised, two-year phones, Matt, in brain-tree, what do we miss?

There's two that Matt's covered.

One was Rick Asadorean, he was from Massachusetts, he got drafted by the Red Sox, and then Wilton

Veris.

He was like a third basement, he was supposed to be the next Cal Ripken, Matt used to write

about in the Herald, I remember those articles.

Don't you ever call them Cal Ripken, but I remember, Veris, they didn't trade them to

Atlanta, I think.

Who was the first one he said, the Rick Asadorean, he was the first round draft pick from Massachusetts.

Yeah.

You know, a buck in his ilk.

Oh my God, comparing them to, you know, like, you got the Tony seat, I was just going

to say, here we go with the Tony seat thing, the kid was a complete zero, with all due respect

to the Asadore.

No, but he was from here, so we got all horned up about it, right?

I was like Charlie Coil.

Good grief.

Oh, did you know he played a youth hockey with Chris Wagner and Wemith?

That really does it for me, that excites me.

Joe and Wemith, it's speaking of which, Joe, he also played with Wags.

Go ahead, Joe.

What do you got?

Hey, guys, I got two for you, the first one, Eugene Chung from Patriots.

Was he ever a height?

Was he ever a height?

Well, he was a 13 stick over all that year.

So I'm just saying there's plenty of guys, listen, so do you have another one, Joe?

Yeah, Craig Hansen for the Red Sock.

Oh, good one.

That guy was hyped.

Hansen's a good one.

So just because you're a draft, so this is what I'm trying to say, like, Nikkeel Harry

was he really hyped?

The Bruins had an eighth overall pick named Zach Kamel, who complete bust, 0.0.

But was he hyped?

Like you put Fabian Lysel on your list, right?

I did.

See, I think Fabian Lysel has gotten some hype.

So it's not necessarily where you're drafted.

You can even be like Chad Jackson the second round.

Fabian Lysel at the end of the first.

Posterock was this guy.

These guys got hype and Posterock's lived up to it.

Lysel hasn't.

Eugene Chung, did he ever get hype?

No, they drafted him up.

And we're like, was he a tackle or a guard?

Right.

I think that, like, exactly.

I think he played both, but you was had to have been drafted as a tackle.

He was a high draft pick.

Yeah, right.

But he wasn't.

No, there wasn't a lot of hype with him.

Like when they, you know, do you remember a tackle they had Pat Harlow?

Do you remember him?

Yes, yes.

Okay, so Harlow got some hype.

When they drafted Harlow, there was some hype.

And I think he was half decent for a little while.

But then he sucked to like most of them.

So you got to have had some hype to land on this list.

How about Dexter in the car?

Go ahead, Dexter.

Hey, boys, I think this is a player similar to Christian Camel in terms of the red socks

who's taking him all around the diamond.

Blake's Y-Hart, he's a converted catcher from a shortstop and like his defense early

and then they put him in the left field and then I shouted at his ankle and that was

it.

He hyped.

He was a first round pick and he was a catcher.

So there was some sort of like, oh, they might have the next guy.

And you know, and it never got off the ground.

I, I remember, I remember thinking like, so I Harlow was going to be good and they

have that up.

Dave and Tatum, who do we miss?

Oh, Daniel Bard, you left Daniel Bard off the list.

Not bad.

He was okay for a little while.

He was and how much hype, I mean, the hype came after he pitched well early.

Yeah.

Was he hyped going into the thing?

A little bit because of how hard he threw.

Yeah.

I mean, there was some of that.

But early on in his career, he, you know, Bard was okay.

I mean, second year in the big leagues, his 73 appearances had a 1.93 year egg.

He didn't really fall apart till they started dinking around with him between the rotation

and the ball pattern.

Bobby V.

Bobby V completely parked that kid six ways to Sunday, completely screwed him.

Maz's tears.

Players who didn't live up to the hype, Andrew and Manchester, go ahead, Andrew.

Maz, do you remember Casey Fossum and he was coming up.

One of the failed Red Sox pitching prospects.

And I think at the time they had a chance to get Bartolo Cologne for him.

It was a big deal at the time.

Casey Fossum.

He ended up going to Arizona for shilling.

So they did okay on that one.

But yeah, there was some hype around Fossum.

He was a seventh round pick and, you know, kind of a little guy who saw it.

But he was never like the kind of prospect that years ago, the Red Sox had a kid named

Andy Yount, who was a first round pick from Texas, big kid, right handed.

You know, so immediately there were comparisons to Clemens.

He then ripped his hand apart and like, well, weird accident and never developed.

I didn't put injured guys on this list.

But Fossum was never like Andy Yount.

Anthony's in Easton.

Yes, Anthony.

How about Brian Rose from the late 90s, early 2000s who were supposed to be the guy to

help Pedro bring them, bring them to the promised land.

And I guess off of that is the Alcantara too.

Tonight Alcantara, he was more of an international, you know, he's a bit of a wild card.

Rose is a good one though.

It was Pavana and Rose.

I mean, those guys got a crap ton of hype.

I got Chris and Ash Braham, Chris, what do we mess?

I got Hobo, Jared Solinger.

I remember he led, you know, I was taking the final four that year and he went off in

the final four.

I'm really sorry, I recommended Solinger to me as this morning.

Yes.

And I forgot to put him on the list.

I've had Solinger and it was Solinger and I had another Celtic on there that I thought

sort of that was an AC Earl, AC Earl, AC Earl, AC Earl, AC Earl was the other one that

I had.

Solinger and AC Earl, they were recognizable college players who sort of I guess they went

deep in the term of it.

Even I remember AC Earl, Iowa and Solinger, Syracuse.

No, he was a high school student because Syracuse was Fab Mello, Ohio State got it, right.

But I, you know, I remember the players and I thought those guys had some hype and

boy, did they suck?

Oh my God, AC Earl got the nickname Jurassic Earl, AC Earl started his own fan club by

himself.

Yeah.

He self started it.

Do you remember that?

Yes.

He dropped like a, he was handing out cards or something flying shirts on the day he

signed up.

Maybe it was self-hyped, but he was hyped.

That fan club did last very long.

Brendan in April.

Yes, Brendan.

What about Ruznay Castillo when he signed him as an actor for you and an actor player?

Good one.

Good one.

And I mentioned him in the email and still left him off the list.

Chris and Marba Hood remiss.

I got three.

I got first one, Tomo Okra, who everybody thought was going to be the next great Japanese

player.

I got old school Hartley Dykes.

We all thought it was going to be the next great Michigan player.

And I hate doing this, but Gordy Cluzak was over hyped.

I'm sorry.

We kept injured guys off the list.

We left injured guys out.

Hartley Dykes was, I think it was Oklahoma State.

He was, you know, he was really pumped up.

He's another good wide receiver they took in the first round.

Who else did he say, which I disagree with, I don't remember that.

Okay.

Henry and Rhode Island just jumped on.

What do we miss Henry?

Hey, guys.

Yellow and Munkati.

He was the number one prospect in 2016, I believe.

I know he wasn't here long, but he was traded for Chris sale and he didn't end up doing

anything.

Yeah.

Was he here long enough not to live up to the high?

He didn't do anything in Chicago, right?

No, you know, you might have made an all-star game.

Let me look that up, but he wasn't here long, you know, he was ended up being traded.

They made the right move with him.

He did not make an all-star team, but he had nearly a couple of pretty good years.

Max in the truck.

Who would we miss?

Hey, what's up, guys?

Uh, Cole Strange.

No.

Pick 29.

No.

Never had any hype, Max.

The inverse of this.

What do you mean he never had any hype?

They drafted him and everyone laughed.

They drafted him and you either went, what?

Who the hell is that?

Or if you knew what the hell you were talking about, like the Rams, you laughed in the Patriots

face.

He never had any hype.

That's what we're trying to say.

Just because you got drafted in the first round doesn't necessarily mean you were hyped.

When the Bruins drafted Jacob Zaboral, was there any hype with Jacob Zaboral?

Nope.

Or were you, or were most of you like, what the hell are we doing?

So no, Cole Strange is the exact opposite of that, just because he was drafted in the

first round.

Does not mean he was hyped.

It was, frankly, it was mocked.

The pick was mocked from the second it was made.

The only reason I put the Bruins 2015 draft on there is because the draft was hyped.

So they had three first round picks and everybody's, oh, what are they going to do with these

picks?

They're going to trade up.

It was, you're not often, you get three first round picks in the same draft and blow

it that badly.

It's like hard to do.

And it was like one of the best drafts in NFL NHL history was it, it was a historically

good draft.

And it was a historically bad performance by them.

Is this Kevin or Bill and Warmer, go ahead, Bill.

Hey, how about Lars Anderson, that guy, the amount of people he could have treated him

for, but they held on to him forever and then nothing.

Lars Anderson, I put on the list.

Is a good one.

Apps for a space man, right?

There were a few guys that came up in the Theo years that Theo and his minions pumped

the crap out of and none of them could play like in the car.

What do we miss?

He wasn't a prospect when he was drafted, but in buckholds, like one of his first three

stats, he threw a no-hitter and everyone thought he was the next Roger Clemmons.

Yeah, he won a world series.

I mean, did you expect him to be more okay, but that doesn't mean, no, he, no, he didn't

belong unless because he actually did something.

Yeah, he wasn't a complete, he wasn't a complete bus.

Oh, Riches and West Roxbury, who do we miss, Rich?

First term pick Greg Blauser in the early 1990s off of Red Sox, seems I thought he was

going to be a Barmer and he sucked.

I don't remember.

So there was a little bit of hype with Blauser.

I remember.

Yep.

B-L-A-U-S-E-R.

Oh, no, no, no, no, that was Blauser was the shortest up in the Braves Blossor B-O-L-L-O-S-S-S-E-R.

Greg Blauser.

Eric, on the hill, our French call screener cannot keep up with the demand.

Go ahead, Eric.

What do you got?

That's okay.

How about this late 80s?

The South is going to be why you for six foot 10, Michael Smith.

Oh, you're banned for life.

Done.

Let me, if you don't know the ground rules, if you call up with something that has just

been mentioned, you are banned from life from the program.

Banned.

You can still listen.

You just can't call.

Solitary confinement.

Out.

Banned for life.

I say this all the time.

If you didn't listen to the segment, just don't call.

Why do you have to call?

You can listen.

You can participate on your own.

But if you didn't hear the segment and you didn't hear who was mentioned or not mentioned

then why do you have to have your voice heard?

Just listen.

Don't call.

And if you call and mention someone who's already been mentioned, whether it's on the

list or not, you are banned for life from the program.

So Ryan or Missouri, I hope you wrote that fellow's name down.

He's out.

Put him on the list.

Banned for life.

And lucky for these guys though, we have bad security.

Because you can still sneak in Kevin in the car.

Go ahead, Kevin.

Boston ruins West Walls.

No nutrients in that guy.

West Walls.

You know what?

I remember the name, but was he hyped?

I think there was some hype with him now that the guy benches.

Why?

West.

West.

W-A-L-Z.

Yeah.

When was he drafted?

Like Waltz without the T.

1989 says here, he was MVP of the 1996 HL All Star games.

So maybe some.

No, first round.

He's the first round pick, uh, 57th overall.

So second round, uh, third round, maybe even at that.

No, out, out, out.

West.

Waltz does not make the tears.

Sorry.

Just, just short.

All right.

Once again, the response to mass is tears through the roof.

Oh, it's almost like we're giving something away.

That's the response is just so overwhelming.

It's like a free bubble.

It's like we're giving away a free bag of popcorn, which again, crashes the French call.

We have to give away.

It's a little something and it crashes the French call screener.

That and masses tears.

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What's secondary?

Adding Kevin is such a huge get.

But then, I guess the biggest question is Christian Gonzalez and his status.

Where do you guys see that contract right now?

I mean, there's no question about Christian status.

You know, he's one of our best football players.

He's under contract, so, you know, well, there's no secret that we'd like to, you know, keep

Christian long term, so, you know, we'll continue to work on those things.

What do you think?

What do you think?

Do you think you're in one mind to come together?

You two sides know the relationship between you guys?

Yeah, I don't really want to talk about a negotiation, you know, I don't think that

would be fair to Christian or his agent, but, you know, again, we like Christian and

we want him here.

Take a quick breather from Maz's tears to give you some football thoughts.

We haven't hit on the Patriots or the NFL here in a couple days.

So a couple things, item number one.

I'm going to tell you, without any inside information, without any sourcing, just using

my prodigious instincts, Maz, and my power of perception and my experience covering the

team and the league for about a decade as a beat guy and, you know, sitting in this chair,

just using those things, where the Patriots contract negotiation stands with Christian

Gonzalez.

Okay.

I just gave you the Patriots side.

You heard what Elliot Wolf said in the middle of that answer?

What was the key phrase in the middle of that answer, Alex?

Let's see if you couldn't, I'd have to go back and hear it.

Give it to him again, Jim.

This is, this is a test for a young, not quite a beat guy.

I don't know what they call you.

You kids now anymore.

I don't even know what you are.

Are you a beat guy?

Are you a, I call his beat reporters, but I think the job description has changed.

Right.

You're like a aggregator.

Well, you know, but you do online, you're definitely that, but he's not quite a beat writer.

It's like this new hybrid role, Maz, right, where it's digital and some aggregation and

some reporting analysis.

It's, I don't know what you'd call it, but let me see how your instincts are.

What's the key phrase in this Elliot Wolf answer?

Elliot, when you look at the secondary, adding Kevin is such a huge get, but then, I guess

the biggest question is Christian Gonzalez and his status, where do you guys see that contract

right now?

I mean, there's no question about Christian status.

You know, he's, he's one of our best football players.

He's under contract, so, you know, well, there's no secret that we'd like to, you know,

keep Christian long term.

So, you know, we'll continue to, to work on those things.

Okay.

So once a key phrase in that answer, he's under contract, very good, Alex.

There it is, where the Patriots are standing right now with Christian Gonzalez.

Your under contract, my man, we don't have to do a damn thing.

Your under contract.

That's where the Patriots stand.

Do you want to know where Christian Gonzalez stands?

Sure.

Yeah.

You see the Celtics game last night?

Yeah.

In the middle of the game, they threw to the stands and in the front row was Christian

Gonzalez.

And what does Christian Gonzalez do?

Watch the, oh, you see that man's, what did he do?

Look like the money sign.

The universal sign for cash.

Where's my money?

The old Johnny Manzell.

The old Johnny Manzell.

Exactly right.

He did the Johnny Manzell.

That wasn't an interview.

That was anything.

That was him just up on the jumbo tron.

He gives the camera the money sign.

So where does this stand?

Give me my money.

The Patriots answer.

Your under contract.

This is where they're at Alex.

You can take that to the bank.

No sourcing necessary.

By the way, do you think, did you see the story the other day that the NFL, meaning it's

not going well?

Go ahead.

This is a little bit of a tangent, but work with me because it's applicable.

Do you see the story the other day at the NFL wants to go back in and do the TV deals

with the deals?

Oh, yeah.

Even though the deals have four more years on them, I thought it was three or less, but

either way.

So when the, you think Robert Kraft accepted that answer from the TV partners and they

said, well, we already have a contract.

I'm just curious.

I'm wondering like if the, if the television partner said, well, what are you talking about?

We have a contract.

You think the, the owners are satisfied with that?

Well, I mean, listen, when Steph Diggs went to him this off season and said, I have a contract,

the Patriots are happy to honor that, right?

Because they signed that, oh, no, that's right.

They cut him because they don't want to pay him the money on the, I got it.

So the, the fact that he has a contract really means jack crap doesn't know.

In that league.

So anyway, well, the rest don't have a contract.

They won't even talk to them and they don't have the contract.

We'll get to that in a minute.

Something tells me the Gonzales thing isn't going all that great.

He's under contract.

Christian, how you doing?

A little go Celtics.

Yeah.

Show me the money.

Where's my money?

And that's where we are at with Chris Gonzales.

So we'll see where that ends up.

That's item number one.

Item number two.

More importantly, Alex Barth has his fresh mock draft up on 985 this wortzup.com.

Do you not?

Is that your second version?

I do.

2.0.

2.0, Barthie.

Who do you have going 31 to the New England Patriots in the first run?

I have them taking a right tackle, Blake Miller.

And this is in part reflective of the job.

I think they didn't for agency.

I kind of started using this term to say pipeline draft for the Patriots in that.

They have some positions that maybe you don't need a starter week one 2026,

but you're going to need a starter.

If not late this season, next season for sure and replenishing the pipeline.

We know how tough it is to find a tackle.

I think getting the next guy in the building behind Morgan Moses is important.

This is a bad tackle draft.

You're not going to have a lot of chances to do it.

If you get one, if a guy of Blake Miller's ability falls to them.

Where's the problem?

What does arm length like to give me the whole start?

Clems in just under 34 inches.

Good size.

Another guy under 34 inches.

Isn't that the magic number?

No, 33.

Got it. Go ahead.

Uh, 52.

I just want to yell both of you.

No, I had a thing for a second.

50 actually no 34 and a quarter.

I just pulled it up.

Sorry. So over 34.

Go.

52 career starts, polished player, experienced player.

He's going to fall a little bit because although it is a weak tackle class,

all the guys that are tackles are right tackles.

So you're going to see some guys fall because teams value that less than the left side.

And he's a guy that to me is a year one starter.

He is a guy that if Morgan Moses, if he doesn't give you that, let's call it what it was.

In probable season, he gave you last year for his age.

I would feel comfortable stepping in, taking over.

And if you get another great year for Morgan Moses, he's 35 years old.

He's got no more guaranteed money on his deal after this year.

You can move on from him and you have your starting right tackle with the future, ideally.

Okay. Who do you have in version 1.0?

In 1.0, I had a key mezzador who is the ad rusher from Miami.

I tried to do different scenarios for each one and kind of explore different players.

So you automatically changed it out just to change it up.

Yeah, I was tough the last couple of years with them picking top five.

That was not easy.

But the whole thing with mock drafts for me is let's look at different scenarios,

different outcomes, different ranges.

But the reason I did tackle here in ed rusher in the first one,

I did not think they were going to do enough in fragency to have the flexibility

to make a pipeline pick at the top of the draft.

I underestimated them.

They did more in fragency than I thought.

They have more flexibility with this draft to kind of go best player available than I thought

they would.

And I compared to some of the ad rusher who might fall.

I like Blake Miller.

I like what he brings to the table.

He's got some big hair, right?

Yeah.

Yeah.

He's got some air going on.

Six, seven, three, twenty.

He's a big dude.

Good size.

Yeah.

For, you know, if he's that good, he'd be a left tackle.

Okay.

So Maz, he's out on your mock draft.

I'm just, you know, I beg, I mean, you know what offensive line help, but I'd prefer

it be for a spot that they don't necessarily have right now.

We did this with Membu last year.

The first question I always get when I say he's a right tackle, they say, well, if he's

that good, why isn't he playing left?

There's a common question.

Some guys that's just maybe they had a really good left tackle where they went to high

school or they just to coaches think this one side of their body is stronger than the

other or whatever.

Just some guys do that sometimes.

Item number three, the NFL refs that you mentioned before, what's the latest?

What are your thoughts?

There was a report today that yesterday, basically, the NFL kind of just walked away from the

negotiations with the officials and ESPN had a little more on that this morning.

And one of the quotes from it was that one of the non starters for the leader for the

officials was the lead wants to improve the quality of the officiating.

It just already seems it's a lie.

Don't buy it.

But keep going.

Well, so to put a quote like that out there, right, for whoever was on the inside that

put that quote out there, where do you think when you say the inside, the inside of

where Alex, I'm sorry to yell at you, but just think of this.

Does it benefit the, with the refs, with the ref side of it, no, no, put out the, put

out themselves that we are refusing reviews were, we're refusing.

What did you just say?

Like how do I phrase this?

I'm sorry.

That the NFL R.A. refused to engage on one of the league's priorities to improve officiating

performance.

Okay.

So it was the exact quote from ESPN that the, the refs do not want performance reviews.

Right.

You're saying the refs would release that information?

No, the league did.

So the league is telling reporters, well, these guys don't want performance reviews.

And you just report it.

It's a lie.

It's a lie.

I don't trust the owners.

I don't believe the owners.

These cheap skates, these guys, some of the, some of whom charge their players for a

fruit cup in the afternoon, don't provide daycare, have rats running around their locker

rooms.

Don't have hot water, et cetera, ash trays in the plane, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.

These guys, why do you think it isn't coming together with the refs?

Because the refs are refusing performance reviews.

It's a lie.

So obviously, but my bigger point was for this early in the process, that feels a little

especially kind of nasty and ridiculous, like this whole thing just seems like it's getting

very ugly.

And why?

Why do you, it's getting nasty and ugly because they're far apart, because the owners

are cheap.

The owners don't want to pay them.

But Alex, the owners are cheap.

If we have to do another season of replacement refs, even if it's one week, it's going to drive

me up a wall and I'm already getting annoyed by it.

And the owners should be blamed for it.

Thank you.

It's only one, you blame these refs because they're allegedly denying, they're walking

away because they're being asked to have performance reviews.

That is such a blatant lie and peace of crap.

And for any reporter just to take that at face value is just so, you are so in the bag

or so ignorant.

The one that bothered me more was their proposed rule.

Yeah, this is the one that got me to, I'm sorry, Alex.

Go.

Typically, I don't have the exact wording in front of me, but it's essentially if there

are replacement refs, the league has the power to overturn calls just in the moment.

So what is this by the way, what's the, because what they're, what they want to have happened

is that basically if they put in the replacement reps, they want to be able to change calls

from the booth without a challenge.

Right.

So what the NFL owners are effectively admitting is that the referees that we're using

as replacement reps are not competent.

We need to have a backup system in place because they suck seriously.

So we want to be able to do it without a challenge, you know, just someone up there watching

them and reviewing them because we don't want to turn the game into a mockery.

Well, you know what?

If you don't want to turn the game into a mockery, pay your officials.

How about that?

There's a novel concept.

Don't get to the point where all of a sudden you put your replacement scrubs on the field

and you're going to have someone looking over their shoulder.

That is the most weasily freaking thing I've ever seen.

And I'm sorry, Alex.

I need to go on and on.

But the other part of it is that I think it's bargaining and it's not bargaining in good

faith.

One of the real rules in all these negotiations is that you bargain in good faith with

the goal of making a deal, which is sort of a stoogey thing anyway to begin with.

But you're in the middle of a labor agreement with them.

And now you're trying to put in a backup plan because you want to freeze them out.

That's not bargaining in good faith.

That's a complete weasel dick move.

You just described the NFL owners.

Oh my gosh.

I saw that and I said, you've got to be kidding me.

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I say wreck.

I don't know what record you broke, but it's got to be a record doing an hour baseball

talk every day at six o'clock or a fifth hour go.

You didn't miss a ton in the two days you weren't here, but that one went right up my

ass.

I saw that and I said, you've got to be kidding.

What a weasel move.

These owners are such weasels and such cheap skates when it comes to the fringes of their

game.

You've seen it.

You know it.

So now you're going to what you think it's going to fall apart because the refs aren't

accepting performance reviews.

It was the dumbest thing I've ever heard.

They already accept a form of them.

In the playoffs, it's like all-star crews.

They get graded every week and they get reassigned based on their grades.

So they are already accepted that level of performance review.

They'll take a performance review if you pay them properly or give them benefits or treat

them like actual employees versus just hired cattle, which is what you probably do because

you're a bunch of cheap skates.

That's what goes up my ass.

And then the reporters who just run with it, oh, well, they don't even want to be reviewed.

Now idiot.

How do you think they get what why do you think they have different crews in the playoffs?

Because they get graded during the regular season and reassigned accordingly.

So it already goes on.

This is such nonsense.

That one goes up my ass.

I also heard that, you know, I also heard some of the local guys say that they don't know

what the delay is with Christian camp Christian Gonzalez that maybe it's his side that's

delaying that, you know, maybe Christian Gonzalez is the one that's playing it coy playing

it slow.

To which I would say, well, let's think about that again using the same parameters.

Where would that information come from?

Would Christian Campbell side say something like, no, we're still playing this.

No, that came from the Patriots side.

We're no rush.

No, we're, we're, we're delaying this because we know the longer we wait, the better

we're going to do.

Do you think Christians, you know, makes Christian Campbell look good in Christians, Christian

Christian, Christian Gonzalez, Christian Gonzalez's camp would say that at risky getting

you all that.

Or is that something the team would say when they're asked, well, how can we even sign

this guy?

Well, he's taking, striking his feet.

We've put some good offers out there in front of me.

He doesn't want to sign.

You just think, think where that bit of information or rumor would come from and who

it benefits and who it benefits is probably where it's coming from.

Yes, Alex.

Did person getting all that?

There is some incentive for Gonzalez to wait because if where their spoon gets paid

first, he's going to get more money agreed that changes once we get into camp because

now he's risking injury and if he gets hurt, then the whole dynamic changes.

So there is some incentive for him to wait now, but yeah, if we're still hearing that

in July, like once he gets on the field, he's going to want his new deal before he risks

in it.

Something tells me he wants his new deal because when they put him up on camera last night,

he acted like Johnny Mansell.

So just call me crazy and if it really connect the dots on that one.

And when the Patriots are asked, they say, well, he's under contract.

So that one again, not hard to figure out where they stand on that.

They're screwing around.

There's no question.

They're screwing around.

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No formal intro.

Let's see what Carla from Auburn has to say.

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Boston's best sports time, you can be out on it.

Two, a plus a two is a five.

Luke is in Vermont on the Celts and Jason Tatum.

Go ahead, Luke, I don't.

But I just think even if you have a minute restriction on Tatum, and Brown can still

be the guy, the majority of the game and can be the leading scorer and take more shots

than Tatum.

I just think at the end of the game, Brown's a little clunky, and Tatum's a better

passer and a little bit more smooth, and I know you've said this before, Felder, but

it seems like there's a rule in the NBA where it's like last four minutes close game

has to be ISO.

Why can't they just run in action?

Why does that?

You saw a play, there was a play in the game last night that led to a jump ball where

they doubled Brown.

He kicked it to Pritchard.

Pritchard missed Tatum in the corner because Tatum's guys rose up on Pritchard, and

you could see Tatum had had enough of standing in the corner.

He was over at, and I don't even necessarily want Tatum to go ISO.

I'd like to see him run some offense, but I just think late close has got to be in Tatum's

hands.

I disagree.

I think, Luke, I think on average, you're going to get a better shot with Jalen Brown

with the ball versus Jason Tatum with the ball.

A better.

You're way more likely for a turnover though.

You're way more likely for a turnover with Brown than you are, Tatum.

You might be a bad shot, but a bad shot is better than no shot.

Fair.

Okay.

I hear you on that.

Brown's handle is still shaky.

Yep.

I mean, not as shaky, but shaky.

But if I can get Brown the ball, if not in the paint inside the line where he doesn't

have to do much ball handling, I just think you're going to get a better, you're going

to get a more quality look with Jalen Brown than you are, Jason Tatum.

Jason Tatum, you're just asking for a fallaway one footed 24 footer.

I think Brown inside the top of the key is close to money.

Like, you know, again, you get him in there and he can take a 16 footer or get in the

paint.

He's either going to score or get fouled.

I think this is going to be a harder, it's going to be a transition for a lot of people.

Tatum, most importantly, the Celtics organization secondarily, but a lot of fans, I think they're

wired for Tatum.

It's the best player and it's about the best player in the league and you don't change

best players and you don't take the ball out of the best player's hands and you want

to championship and Tatum was your best player.

You don't win those MVP's, Brown did, but it was still about Tatum.

I think you're better off if it's about both of them, if not the other guy first is

what I think.

And that's going to be hard to swallow, I think for a lot of people.

I mean, right now, I'm not sure it's even debatable.

I told you the one caveat I'll allow because we saw it in the Minnesota game.

When they start blitzing and I say blitzing, when they start putting ball pressure on Brown,

the ball turns over.

It does, which is why he shouldn't be handling the ball on the perimeter.

That's why I said, if you can get it to him inside the arc, I think that you're going

to get a more consistent shot than you are with Jason Tatum fudzing around out there with

this back to the basket, dribbling from 25 feet.

Because his tears, players that failed to live up to the hype, Scotty on Cape Cod.

Who'd we miss?

Mads up all about Donnie Sadler.

Not bad.

Not bad.

Yeah.

Not bad.

We heard a lot of Donnie Sadler in those days.

Yes.

And he flamed out pretty fast.

Joe and Maine, who'd we miss?

Tyler Sagan.

You know, he, he didn't live up to the hype like you want to franchise player that led

you to a cup, but he was pretty good.

You know, so no, I would not put Sagan on that list.

He definitely wasn't a bust.

Yeah.

Bill and Saugus.

Yes, Bill.

Hey, Mads.

I got one for you.

Frankie Rodriguez.

Oh, good one.

They traded him.

But yeah, he never, I don't think he ever pitched in the big leagues for the Red Sox.

So he got, he was in that Rick Aguilera trade back in the mid 90s.

But he was, he was a two way player.

He was a hitter and pitcher and he had to pick which one because back then there was

no autonomy.

There's no autonomy rule.

Stephen Carver is a Red Sox talk.

Go ahead, Steve.

Michael, do you have this game on in the studio?

We do.

Do you see how freaking big this score bug is with the ads all over the screen?

Just talking about it.

And he's taking up a quarter of my screen.

We were just talking about it.

Guy's cheap a holes.

And by the way, they put out a press release saying, Nesson has updated its graphics for

user experience.

And you know, I took the day.

I'm like, good.

They needed some refreshing.

They're just telling us more road and hyzer ads, which is a good company.

They spawn to your station.

But anyways, maybe if they, and they're having a bunch of technical issues that you probably

won't hear with the audio and the camera angles, maybe if they didn't staff other teams

broadcast during spring training and they actually, you know, or 13 year old interns,

child labor, you know, yeah.

So we don't, we can't hear it.

I can't see the camera angles you're talking about, but that score bug is ridiculous.

It's massive.

But some of the key information is tiny, like the velocities, the ad, you know, they sell

the ad at the bottom is huge.

They have to have the logos on there, which are huge, the B and the C. But then they also

have Boston and Cincinnati boss and sin next to it.

Like we don't need both.

Give us either the logos or the boss or the sin.

Why do you need the logo and the city of abbreviation?

It's also, it's very bright.

It's not just big.

It's very bright.

And then the key information, who's batting the velocity of the pitch, the type, that's

all tiny.

You can barely see it from where we're sitting.

The whole thing sucks.

You know, I don't like it either.

It's too busy.

And big.

Well, what if you hit a liner to, you know, that would be right center.

It's going to go right in the middle of the bug.

You're not going to see it.

You know, Roger has just going to get some serious business.

They deserve it, the rest of it.

And then the very tops is 2026 opening day.

Got it.

Like, why do we need that in there?

Did you need to be told what are we going to say tomorrow?

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Hey, it's O and shaking things up a bit.

No formal intro.

Let's see what Carla from Auburn has to say.

The biggest thing that I received out of this Awakened 180 program was that I was able

to get a best friend.

And when I say that, I mean the person that I look to in the mirror every morning, I would

walk by the mirror and not look.

Now the Awakened 180 program has given me the ability to look in the mirror, smile, and

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I went from, you know, 301 down to 213.

I've lost 84 pounds with the Awakened 180.

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I want to get to the gossip.

Everything you said is right.

I feel you're in the ass, this sports hall.

McAvoy, the post-mack again from the red line, cuts into the middle, across the line,

to the left circle.

Zaka shot scores!

Bobbles Zaka with the game winner and overtime, and the Bruins beat the Sabers 4-3.

And Taden will dribble it into the front court and half-fitting that the ball's going to end

up in his hands.

And Jason Taden didn't play in the game 13 days ago when the Celtics narrowly avoided

the upset of the Thunder, but tonight, falling behind by 13 early, they took OKC's best shot,

and there are the ones left standing.

The Thunder's 12-game winning streak comes to an end at TD Gardens, as the Celtics in

the season full of stirring wins and another one to the list.

The final score, Boston 119, OKC 109.

I think the Bruins season was kind of in the balance, especially with how they fell behind

in the third period.

They're playing an actual pretty good game last night.

They rebound from a really bad night against Toronto the night before and are playing well

against one of the best teams in the league.

And they're up two to one in the third period with the power play.

And Mason Lora, the young defenseman, again for the second straight night, plays like

a total jackass with his back to the offensive zone in a loose puck in front of him, gets

his pocket picked and gives up a breakaway goal.

That makes it two to two.

And then idiotically compounds a problem by cross-checking the guy into the net, drawing

a penalty that Buffalo then scores on.

So in the span of 33 seconds, with you on a power play, you went from leading two to one

with the man advantage on the road in a big spot to being down three to two.

And it looks like you're going to kick away one of the bigger games of the year.

And it felt like, Maaz, a sort of gut punch sort of loss was brewing there where you don't

know where it was going to go from there.

Never mind the math of the playoffs.

Well, you got lucky bounce tie the game.

Bounce off the backboard.

And I don't know how it came off that backstansion, that backboard, so hard.

Maybe it hit like a stud, but you know where like, right where the scene comes in.

Because and it came out the other side and it just came out hard and hot and right to

Casey Middlestadt in the right at the top of the crease with a wide open net and he put

it in.

So you got a lucky bounce.

I still don't know where it came from to tie the game.

And then that there was the overtime goal, Pavel Zucker from David Boston.

I can now there's two points.

And you pull out a game you easily could have lost.

And I just think you have a whole new lease on life after that one.

No big.

In fact, I would say the Bruins have done this a couple of times now, right?

Because didn't they lose the game right before Detroit when they went into Detroit?

Yeah.

Maybe it was they lost a couple overtime games right in a row.

So Montreal and somewhere else.

Yeah.

So the the and I got it wrong maybe they beat Winnipeg right before they played Detroit.

But the to me it felt like I thought for sure they were going to lose last night.

I thought it was going to be a big, you know, kick in the nuts and then play off chances.

And the whole week.

I mean, I thought they shouldn't have played Swamon the night before against Toronto.

So they had to go back to Corpus Sala last night who was on his best day, shaky.

And against that team in that spot, it's like look out below and they pulled it out.

And now you look at it.

Because now you look at the standings and the math and you say, they really, if they

don't make the playoffs now, it's kind of a choke.

I know it's it looks tight on the bottom of it.

They're just, you know, two points up and all of that.

But that's not always the way to look at it because the other division, excuse me, I was

just calling it up here real quick for you.

You are in the seven seed, if you will, the first wild card spot with 88 points.

The senators are in the eighth seed, the second wild card spot with 85.

So there are three points behind you with a game in hand.

But that's again, that's just the eighth seed.

The ninth seed is the islanders with 85 points, same games played.

So they have three, they're three points behind you.

You've played the same amount of games.

However, in the other division where the islanders are, Pittsburgh is sitting with 86 points

and Columbus is sitting with 87.

So if the islanders get two points, they climb up into the top three in their division

and one of those other teams drop below you.

So what I'm saying is, and it's a little complicated, but just the way the math works,

you've got a couple different paths now.

It's not just that last wild card and the islanders.

It's Columbus, Pittsburgh, the eye, okay.

So there's three teams for two spots in that division.

I'll stop talking now.

All I'm saying is.

No, that makes sense though.

Yeah.

And those teams will play each other too.

At this point, it's getting to the point where if they don't make it, something went really wrong.

You failed, you gagged.

Your goalie is playing at the top of the league right now.

Swamon's playing tremendous and the math is starting to turn in your favor.

You pretty much have to make the blows.

And it's those two points last night were huge.

So and the takeaway for me is that Mason Laura, I have to get benched after what he's done

the last two games.

And I like Mason Laura and I want them to hang on to Mason Laura and I'm glad they

hang on to him to this point.

And I hope he's a part of their rotation down the stretch.

I'm not bearing the kid, but he needs a reset after those last two games.

I mean, really two brutal mistakes that were similar in nature on the power play both

times.

Can't handle the pocket gets behind them.

And there's no urgency for him to go get the puck and then he cross checks the guy

into the net to take a penalty.

Absolutely brutal.

Take a seat.

Okay.

Take a breather and come back in a game.

Ah, Celtics different, they're, you know, they're going to be the tour.

The three seed and they're going to go in.

Can I ask you one question about the Bruins before we move on?

You bet.

Does last night at all fortify any opinion that you may have that they can be Buffalo.

I like Buffalo in that series.

It's the same.

Meaning Buffalo would be heavily favored and they should be.

They're dangerous.

They just got more guys than you do.

And I don't like you in your own zone.

I know there's too many shaky defense and whether it's Laura and McAvoy gave up a puck

for the go ahead, go on the power play.

And I think Lindholm is a liability half the time.

And Buffalo's got some guys that can move and are dangerous.

I think Buffalo is a clear favorite in that series.

And last night doesn't disabuse me of that.

You I think got lucky, you know, but Taki, you'd have the gold tending advantage.

Buffalo hasn't won anything in decades.

Never mind even been in that spot.

How's your defense?

I he's better than yours, but no great shakes.

You know, they're right.

I think you're right to say that they're the strength there is there for it's a four group

all this Owen power.

Kevin just left me.

He could tell me more about it.

Is this Owen power?

This defense and he was like number and overall pick a couple years ago.

Wasn't he Kevin?

Yes.

He was the first overall pick as he come into his own.

He was out.

He's improved.

He's definitely improved from the first couple of years were not great as a number one

overall pick.

So I mean, listen, I'll take my chance with Buffalo.

They've won anything in Trevor.

I'll always play that kind of team, but they're better.

Make no mistake.

Ah, Celtics.

That was a win they needed because I think things had started to slide in the wrong direction

with Tatum and Brown and not meaning like their relationship.

I'm talking about the way the ball was going and the offense was going down the stretch

in these games.

It was being force fed to Tatum and that is not when the Celtics are at their best.

And when Tatum is 100%, that's not when you're at your best.

And especially this year when Brown's having the kind of year he is and Tatum isn't all

the way back.

It was kind of silly what I was seeing there against Minnesota and Memphis.

And I think last night corrected itself, Mazz and after a really slow start, they ground

that one out and the game finished the way that all these games should be finishing where

it's more Jalen Brown than Jason Tatum.

And Tatum of course is going to get his and he's going to be a big part of it, but it

sort of starts and ends with Jalen Brown and that's what I saw last night and that to

me made all the difference in the world.

Yeah, there was a huge change in terms of the pace that they play with and who's bringing

the ball up the floor.

I, to me it was apparent that Tatum wasn't dribbling ball up the floor, draining the

shot clock.

It was a much, he plays better on the wing I think anyway.

I thought that was the best offense.

They have played as a team in a long, long time.

And you can say they've had other games years ago when they made a lot of threes and

look, they made their share of threes last night, at least it didn't take 50 of them.

But I also thought they get into the paint, they got free throws, you know, they scored

near the rim.

Uh, Tatum made a terrific pass to Cata.

I thought, uh, on, uh, you know, from the wing that is not an area you typically see

and make passes from.

I, I, to me last night was might have been the best offense I've seen him play under

Mizzula.

So they needed it because they had, I think, started to backslide a little bit and they

needed something to start stacking positively going forward and that was it.

And so that was the significant significance of the Celtics win, we think.

So there's a reset of the our Bruins and Celtics thoughts you can weigh in on that, Maz's

tears, uh, with the inspiration being Christian Campbell players who failed to live up to the

hype.

You can always call us on that.

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