Patriots vs. Seahawks Showdown Breakdown (Episode 1020 with Adam Levitan, Cody Main, and Sam Brott)

0:00[♪ OUTRO MUSIC PLAYING [♪ Oh, and welcome to the 2026 NFL season! My name is Adam Levitan, and we are gathered here today to talk about actual, real life, NFL regular season football, Patriots at Seahawks Super Bowl Rematch is tomorrow night, and of course, tons of action in the DFS showdown streets for that game. Joining me today are two of the most dedicated NFL DFS showdown versions you will ever meet. Showdown specialist in King of the size, slash mass streets, Cody Main has gone today. Cody, I can't hear you. Tech Lord difficulties to kick off the season, it wouldn't be any

1:01to your show without that. It feels good to be back. It feels good to be back. It's almost time to put the pencils down. It's almost time to start the damn games. I'm feeling good. Indeed, it's enough already. We need to start the games like two weeks ago. It's ridiculous. Anyways, Lord of the Simbrows from our data side and NFL teams, Simbrot has gone today. It's going great. I'm with you guys. We need to just start the games a long time ago. Preseason was great, but this low we've had with extended training camps and everything this year, like September 9th is way too late to get started. Yeah, and like every player, not every player, but most of the players who had injury scares, you know, outpears during my love, Ash and Gentie, I could keep going. Luther Bird and Tyler Warren, Breeze Hall, all these guys that were quote unquote hurt seems like they're all going to be okay for week one or at least play here in week one. So yeah, there was so much fun out there. I hope you guys had a great drafting season. It is now time though to play the greatest game there is DFS. On today's show, we are going to talk all things Patriots, Seahawks from a DFS showdown

2:07perspective. We'll go position by position. We'll give a flag plant at the end. Reminder, most of these shows will be part of our NFL in season product through the season. In other words, not free here on YouTube part of the in season product. That means our showdown shows established the show with myself, Sylvan Wiggins established a million with dink and Leoni weekly manverse machine, silver versus Leoni weekly projections, contact show, survivor show with Cody, tons more. All of those shows are part of our in season product along with projections. Sylvaz matchups, tons more there. So head to establish the run dot com and check out the in season product. And if you have draft kit and you want to upgrade to bundle, shoot a note to support at established the run dot com and we'll take care of your upgrade there. So again, if you have draft kit, you want to upgrade to bundle, shoot a note to support at established the run dot com. All right. There's some stuff changing here in the NFL and in the showdown streets here, Cody.

3:12I think a big thing was kicker stuff and he quick thoughts on changes for this year that you see that are important for the showdown streets. Yeah, I feel really good to go back through the last couple of years worth of data from a couple of different angles seeing what the field has been doing, seeing what draft kings has been doing from a pricing perspective. And then to actually look at what's been happening on the field, we know that there's been rule changes to kickoffs, we know that there's been rule changes to the k balls that the kickers can actually use. And I think all of those things are really important to try to analyze. This is probably the biggest format where kickers matter the most is DFS and his showdown. And I think looking through those three angles kind of helps paint a picture of what we should be doing with kickers. I think it's probably one of the biggest changes the format has had over the last couple of years since the early days. And the thing from a from non field perspective, it's really tough to deny that kickers have become more valuable components to showdown slates. We can see that in 2025, for example, they scored 10 plus points, 38.4% of the time compared to 33.7% of the time in 2021. They went north of 15 points,

4:1610.3% of the time in 2025 compared to 7% of the time in 2021. So you can see the trend of kickers simply getting better. It's not really a trend. It's just simply a benefactor of the rule changes over the last couple of years. And I think that's important. But I think the component that gets lost when watching how well these kickers are performing on prime time showdown slates is that A, they've become more popular. The field has become aware of these things. And they're more owned in 2025 than they were in 2021. And B, they've become more expensive. So it feels natural to kind of gravitate towards kickers more often than we have in the past because of how well they're performing on the field. You kind of have to factor in those other components. It's something I want to keep an eye on this season, both Andy Borgallis and Jason Myers who are on this slate tonight are pretty expensive coming up are pretty expensive. And I expect the field to want to own them. We'll see where ownership ultimately lands. But the kicker analysis is up on the site. I think it's it's a worthwhile read as you try to figure out how to handle these guys. But the general consensus that I came to after going through this process was that the way that they project now,

5:21the way that they're performing now is kind of been caught up with by the draft king's pricing algorithm and the rest of the field. Yeah. And I think it's really important part of understanding what's changing in the NFL and what's changing. What people are doing also hopefully you guys caught our YouTube show about beating DFS tournaments. We talked a lot about the changing NFL and what the field is doing and what is actually winning there as well be sure to check out that video. From over the weekend brought any high level showdown thoughts from you on Sims or anything else heading into this season. Yeah, I think the availability of Sims kind of widespread throughout the industry has really changed how people have been building lineups over the past couple seasons. And we've updated our sim field lineup projections or Duke counts in the in the Sims we have at Solver to account for that. I think kind of the big trend that we've seen over the past couple years is this gravitation towards the 5-1 builds, the 1-5 builds that Cody talks about where people

6:22are kind of onslaughting teams and when they do that they tend to use the defense, the kicker, and they just kind of play for one team to kind of dominate the other team. And the Sims have shown that that's a very viable strategy, but it has come to the point where the field has played it so much that you kind of have to wonder at what point is that stop being the optimal way to play, but just want to point out that our Sim product at the Solver does account for all of that now even more than it has in the past. All right, with that out of the way, let's talk about Patriots at Seahawks. This is a really interesting game. Obviously it's a super bone rematch, the last game that everybody watched was Seahawks Patriots. The first game that Air Bill watched this season is Seahawks Patriots. Strikes me, Cody, that these are two very, very good defenses and specifically two very, very good secondaries. I mean, remember the Super Bowl was 12-nothing Seahawks

7:22after three quarters. I mean, the offenses could not do anything. And then in the fourth quarter, we got to pick six to speed the game up. There's a garbage time touchdown. It ends up with a reasonable final score. But after three quarters, people were like, this is the worst Super Bowl. I have ever watched in the history of Super Bowls 12-nothing again. So, Nicky and Monowari, I think has a chance to play. I'm not sure if he is going to or not, but Seahawks do return nine of 11 starters if you include Monowari in there. Of course, Patriots have Christian Gonzalez, so they just locked up and a very, very good secondary as well. So, I was a little surprised that the total came in here at 44 and a half. I see a lot of people wanting to take the under here. I know Silva is on the under in this game as well. Cody, any high-level thoughts on this version of Patriots Seahawks. Yeah, I mean, it sure does just on the on the surface feel like one of those games that could be a stinker of a prime time game to kick off the season from an offensive scoring perspective. There are, I mean, there's bullish signals everywhere. I think for both of these teams, obviously they were in both in the Super Bowl last year. The Seahawks

8:24win the Super Bowl last year. You can paint pictures of losing Clint Kubiak being a big deal of not having Zach Sharvina and Kenneth Walker having a big impact on what their offense wants to do. And then on the other side, you know, reading through Pat Thorman's pace preview, there were a lot of positives to take away from what New England did last year. Of course, seventh highest pass rate over expectation, but they were still 17th and snaps for game 28th in combined plays did not use the no-huddle often. So, you get the sense that this game, you think that both teams probably want to play this one pretty pretty slow. And it's going to stay pretty competitive and has a chance to be pretty low scoring. But on the other side of that, you know, you've got offseason additions for the Patriots. You got second year for Drake May, who had an MVP caliber season last year in Josh McDaniel system. So, I think you can also kind of paint the picture that maybe this one has a little bit more back and forth. Shoot out potential to it, which I don't think the field is going to be playing for, which, you know, kind of makes for an interesting angle for those of us that like to root for offense. Yeah, I mean, Patriots got better, I think, you know, they added AJ Brown. They add Romeo Dubs. I think offensive line is improved

9:27there as well. And it's year two, Rable, you know, I mean, I'm so impressed by Rable like every time. So, you know, year two, Rable, I think makes a difference. I think the Patriots are better. You could argue that the Seahawks are worse, you know, they did lose a couple of pieces on defensive though they returned nine of 11 starters. And they lose Clint Cubiak here as well. You see, this is an important table that we have here in the showdown breakdown article. This is how often we project, uh, each, uh, users to do one Seahawk versus five Patriots or one Seahawk and five Patriots in their lineup, just 2.1% of the time. The other way, five Seahawks, one Patriot 9.4% this will be updated closer to game time here. But yeah, brought any general thoughts on the game and what we're showing here in terms of these splits. Yeah, I mean, I'm also thinking that the, the game probably leans towards the under here. Like, I'm not betting sides or totals or anything like that. But, you know, you just think about the environment here and it's hard to imagine it getting into a

10:28shootout the way I'm seeing the game. And I do think that that's going to lead the field to really want to play running backs to really want to play defenses. And especially correlate their running backs and defenses together. So, um, I could see situations where, uh, a lot of the field ends up playing for these kind of like low scoring games. And, you know, I do think that it's going to go that way too. But it, that gives us an opportunity to either play those kind of lineups in unique ways or to just kind of play for the shootout and play for a more interesting game to take place here. But I do think that the, the Kubeak loss and the new offensive coordinator coming in, you know, it does present us really interesting angle here. And it's something that I like to write about for the classics late week one GPP leverage where, you know, the biggest unknowns will have all season are week one. Like, we could have a situation where Kubeak is a big loss and he was so great for them last year that we all think that, you know, it's probably a loss. But what if it gets better?

11:31Like, it can get better. There is potential there. And there's also no tape for the Patriots of study of how this new offensive coordinator is going to operate within the Seattle offense. So, you know, they could get caught off guard with some stuff. And who knows? Maybe, maybe the Seahawks come out and surprise everybody. So I think it's a great time in week one to just go against what you think is going to happen and just take contrarian angles and contrarian builds and try and get leverage against the field here. Yep. And we'll talk about some of those as we go through here. Let's start at the quarterback position where you get Drake May and one of the toughest spots that he will find all season here. Cody. And so playing quarterback and showdown at these prices, I think is typically pretty strong. Again, this will be the toughest spot. Maybe that Drake May has all season 12% captain ownership here. Cody, let's start in the Drake May side. What do you think about him? Yeah, quarterbacks are really cheap. And I think that's probably the

12:32biggest takeaway from the slate in general is that the slate is just very loosely priced. You're going to be able to build lineups that you feel you should feel good about using 46, 47, $48,000 worth of the $50,000 salary cap on draft kings. Part of that big reason behind that is is Drake May's price tag and Sam Darnall who will talk about the second. These guys are probably $1200 to $1,600 cheaper than maybe they should be or they were last season. And I think for May specifically, obviously this is going to be a very difficult matchup. Three and a half point road underdog against a very good Seattle defense. He I mean, during his season last year was was kind of a model of fantasy consistency. Had Ted and separate outings north of 20 draft kings points was in the double digits on every single game. So I think from a, you know, if you're thinking small field GPP, if you're thinking cash game style contest, it's tough to find anybody that has a better floor than Drake May. That doesn't discount the ceiling either. You had a 6% design rush rate last year, 10% scramble rate last year. We already mentioned the improvements for the

13:34offensive line adds AJ Brown adds Romeo dobs. I think there's there's reasons to be reasonably bullish about Drake May's full season outlook and specifically here in week one, even against a very good Seattle defense. I'm pretty in on May at flex. I think we're going to be able to find better captain options. And I think sometimes these these quarterbacks that do offer some tool thread upside end up being a little bit over owned at captain, both in large and small field tournament. So I'm more interested in finding some of these running backs. White receivers that I think just have a little bit more Rob side than Drake May might. But I think probably the best at current ownership, the best flex play in small and large field tournaments right now. Yeah, I agree. It's just too cheap for a player who could be, you know, he's well, should be a top five fantasy quarterback this season. If not top three or better. But we see here in our ceiling projections that we actually have Drake May forth on this slate in terms of ceiling behind JSN Ramon, Dre and AJ Brown. One thing about the Drake May play brought is I mean, I know digs was good

14:37last year. He only played 57% of the snaps. He only worked really close to the line of scrimmage. Getting AJ Brown and Romeo dobs is such a big upgrade because now they can play pop Douglas and Mac Hans and Kyle Williams and secondary roles instead of primary roles. So if AJ Brown goes out there and last year he was like, I was just doggan it. The Jalen hurt stings, patulo stings. Now AJ Brown goes out there and balls out. I think that's how you find the real ceiling on Drake May. I have another take for Drake May past catcher, but I think playing Drake May with AJ Brown and that being the angle like, Hey, AJ Brown is such a big upgrade. He's such a good player. That's how you find the ceiling, but brought any more thoughts on handling Drake May tonight. Yeah, I'm totally with you on the upgrades here for Drake May and I was kind of completely out on AJ Brown at his cost for best ball and redraft purposes, but then you get him in this kind of situation here. I think it's an awesome play here on a showdown slate just because everybody is going to be

15:39taking this idea that Seattle's defense kind of dominated them in the Super Bowl and now they're at home in their own stadium and they're the 3.5 point favorites. Drake May struggled in the Super Bowl. He's going to struggle here, but I think AJ Brown really is such a big upgrade over Steph Diggs and to your point about Steph Diggs, he didn't play all that high of a percentage of the routes or snaps last year. That kind of created a situation last year where Drake May did end up being owned quite a bit at Captain when he was on the showdown slates because people didn't really feel comfortable making any of the Patriots receivers of Captain, but I do think that here it might protect Drake May's Captain ownership just a little bit because there is like this clear alpha now that you could just put AJ Brown in the Captain's spot and he saves you a little bit of salary off Drake May too. So that could kind of cap Drake May's Captain ownership, but I do think that

16:42when Drake May is the Captain, it's going to kind of lead to some chalky combinations of like it's going to be AJ Brown and Dodgs or AJ Brown and Hunter Henry when Drake May is Captain. So I think one thing that you could do is just play Drake May Captain or Drake May Skinny without AJ Brown and say, okay, if Drake May is going to be the optimal Captain, he's going to get a rushing touchdown or two, he's going to have a big rushing day. So I think that's the way I would want to play Drake May if I were to play him in Captain. Yeah, only thing about AJ Brown, I would say I do expect him to see a lot of Devon Witherspoon who I believe was PFF's number one graded cornerback last season. So like this is no bargain whatsoever for the May AJ Brown stack. I just think that's the way he finds a true ceiling is with some outrageous plays by AJ Brown. On the other side with Sam Darnold Cody, it's like only $600 less like the gap between Sam Darnold to I believe we had as like

17:42quarterback 25 or something in the fantasy rankings to Drake May who I believe we had like QB4, QB5. It's only be $600 difference here is striking but then again, we only have them 2.1 points apart and base projection and two points apart in ceiling. So Cody, what do you think about handling Sam Darnold here at 9400? Yeah, I think there's a few things working in Sam Darnold's favor. Obviously he's a quarterback. Quarterbacks are very valuable and showdown formats where it's positionless. You don't have to worry about rostering a single position across the board. So you have that working in his favor. He is a 3.5 point home favorite. You have some at least uncertainty with what the offense is going to look like from a pass run split perspective with with Clint QB act gone with Kenneth Walker and Zach Sharvenay not playing. Maybe they go a little bit pass heavy here though. I don't think that's what we're we're necessarily projecting. And then Darnold himself. I mean, you're going to hear this about almost every player but Darnold's a little bit too cheap as well at 9400 last season. His showdown price point was 10.4 on average and at 10.4 he averaged 46.5%

18:47total ownership 5.6% captain ownership. So he's he's cheap here. Then you kind of, you know, we're going to get to to JSN in a second here. Some of these other guys, JSN is only 10.6. JSN is is equally underpriced in this spot as well. So you can't spend up for everybody. You're going to be able to spend up for quite a few options on this slate. But I think when you start thinking about making cuts towards the top of the board, do you want to JSN at 10.6 or do you want Darnold at 9.4? That's where you start to get into some of those some of those discussions. I still think Darnold's a phenomenal cash game option given the safety that's provided by the quarterback position on every slate. But when I'm starting to think about tournaments, I'm a little bit more interested in some of the upside of the past catchers running backs and obviously Drake May who are priced directly around Sam Darnold. Yeah. I mean, if if I was playing cash, I would have both quarterbacks. On my team in flex at a minimum. So yeah, I mean, I think just like too cheap here. Floor is too high. Let's go to running back here. Brought. This is the story of the slate. I'm just going to

19:50start by New England for a second here. Seems like Treby on Henderson is almost certainly out for this game. That's not official yet. But seems to be very, very, very much trending that way has not practiced since I believe it was August 24th. What that is going to lead to is an outrageous usage projection for Ramondra Stevenson. Look at the names that they have behind Ramondra Stevenson for this game. I know silver put an update in his matchup saying that he thinks Ramondra could handle 100% of the Patriots running back touches in this game. I don't think it's going to be like that. But I could see 85 90% of the running back touches in this game going to Ramondra Stevenson. This is not sneaking by anyone though. Brought. We keep pumping up the ownership on Ramondra up to 58%. Now to me, this is one of the biggest stories on the slate. How to handle Ramondra. What do you think, Brat? Yeah, this is a really an unfortunate situation where the pricing came out on draft kings quite a while ago when there was no indication that Treby on Henderson might miss this game.

20:53It was going to be a great spot to play Ramondra. I think I have been really into Ramondra throughout the off season and would have loved to play him here while a bunch of people were still playing Treby on. But I do agree with silver. I do think that Ramondra will get 100% of the running back touches for the Patriots unless it turns into a blowout in either direction, whether they're up by a lot. They can get these other guys mixed in or they're losing by a lot and they just want to get Ramondra some rest for next week. I don't think they're going to turn to these other guys while the game is close at all. I'm really interested to hear Cody's thoughts on Kiner, on Haskins. These are guys that we all played in the preseason. Kiner is actually good in the preseason. I don't think the Patriots want to go to them. They haven't really played with the full team very much. I'm surprised. I'm also, like you said earlier, Adam, I've been really impressed with Raeble as I had coached, but they seem very underprepared here for potential

21:56injury and they kind of shot themselves in the foot with a lack of depth here. I'm sure I'll play plenty of Ramondra, but you got to be really careful about how you play him. He's very underpriced. So one easy thing to do is just play him when you're leaving salary on the table for 10 that he's priced correctly at like 10k or make sure you get some contrarian pieces or contrarian game scripts around him that you're telling a story with in your lineup because it's going to be easy to run into doops with Ramondra, the slate, whether it's at Flex or at Captain. Yeah. So, Cody, if for anyone who's wondering what's on the screen here, this is the solver. If you have ETR in season and then you add on the solver optimizer, our projections will sink to your optimizer. So basically here's the optimizer here. All I did was ask for 10 lineups optimized by projection. You can also optimize by ceiling or 50% or projected ownership or floor however you want to optimize by this is by our straight projections. Ramondra and this is just our top 10

22:57optimals. Ramondra is our optimal captain in nine out of those top 10. So I'm worried that we're even like light ownership on Ramondra, but again, the story of the slate here, Cody, how do we handle Ramondra? Yeah, there's not going to be a player with a bigger gap between like high stakes, sharper contests and slower stakes, cat more casual contests than Ramondra, something in like the 333 or 444 or even higher stakes stuff. Ramondra is going to be in virtually every lineup in those contests and going to be even higher on the captain. I think and maybe this is just wish-casting. I think there's a couple of things that could potentially keep just the larger field lotto style stuff and check a little bit. First of all, he's going to project for massive ownership regardless. You can see some leveling off of that. I can't play Ramondra at 60% or 15% 20% captain. I've got to play somebody else to get different. Then you have the fact that Seattle is running defenses phenomenal. You have the fact that there are three and a half point road dog. You have the fact that the fantasy mass is just clearly do not like Ramondra, Stevenson. I think that

23:58was pretty evident based off of how little his best ball ADP moved to this off season. I think there are some things that could potentially keep Ramondra's ownership in check, but it is a serious problem on this slate given where he was initially priced. I wrote in the breakdown that I think Ramondra probably would have found his way into the top overall play section, even if Travian Henderson was active just given how they used him down the stretch last season. I think to Silva and Brott's point about how much is he truly going to be used? I don't know if it matters if it's 85% or 100%, but to those points, the backfield situation behind Travian is truly a travesty. They had an RB3 battle that they let play out through the entire preseason between Jam Miller, Landlarrison, Jemikel Hastie, and Hassan Haskins. We're apparently so unimpressed by those guys that they traded for Corey Keiner who was the Cardinals RB4 or 5 at the time on August 28th. You've got a guy in here who is presumably RB3. The only other running back on the 53 man roster

25:00right now of Travian is out. You just traded for him 10 days ago or so. Regardless of who ultimately ends up being active whether it's Landlarrison or Hassan Haskins, and I know Hassan Haskins has had some familiarity with the rabble before from their time in Tennessee, it just would stun me if they were using those guys to any meaningful degree, which makes them less interesting, and it just further proves the point that Ramondra is the most underpriced player on this slate. Yeah. I'm curious, brought from a contrarian perspective. I brought up the optimals if we fade Ramondra completely, no captain and no flex, and you get different stuff. Obviously you get a lot of Drake May and JSN in captain, but what kind of teams do you think brought if you wanted to go for a Ramondra fade? What kind of teams do you think make the most sense? Yeah, I think sometimes with a lead back like this, it's easy to kind of project, okay, if I want to fade this player, what does the game look like? If we're looking at the extreme,

26:02somebody like Derek Henry, okay, if he's not going to be having a good game, you could just say, okay, his offense isn't playing well, he's not getting touchdowns, so you could just play the opposing defense and play for blowout, but it's tough with Ramondra because he's probably going to be the past catching back throughout the entire game too, if you do believe that he'll be playing 100% of snaps are close to it. So then it's like he kind of works in a blowout script too, if he's just catching check downs and they're in a lot of hurry up spots. So it's really tough with Ramondra. I think a couple of ways you could do it is one, you could just imagine that the New England offense can't move the ball at all, they can't get first downs, so they're just not on the field for Ramondra to be able to have success. And then I think another way to do it is there is a situation where Patriots are able to score, but maybe they score two or three touchdowns through the air, they get a field goal or two, and maybe Ramondra has like a solid 12 point game, but it's just not

27:08needed at his salary and you need the passing game and the kicker or something like that. So I think it's easy to like tell ourselves certain narratives of like how a game's going to play out and then assume that okay, how does Ramondra not get there, but he could just not get there because other players score more. Like that is a completely valid point too. So I don't think it's a certain game script that you need to go down to fade Ramondra. Yeah. And like Ramondra scored caught in the Super Bowl. I mean, he was like dead, you know, he had seven carries for 23 yards, shaving on Henderson at six carries for 19 yards. I mean, they could not run the ball. What's so ever? Ramondra saved his day by catching a touchdown there in garbage time. So yeah, I mean, he could just fail here. Period. Brought I brought up, I just simmed just as an example, the top 10 lines without without Ramondra just to be clear for people like this is not the type of distribution that we're looking for. We're making good line us, but anything you want to note here, brought

28:09for people that are interested or using the sims here for showdown. Yeah, I would definitely sim many different combinations of line ups. You know, Adams doing 10 here just for demonstration purposes, but you know, you do see that these Drake May Captain line ups, the sims aren't really liking. So maybe they do prefer the route of, you know, more Seattle heavy and New England's either more concentrated or they just fail entirely. But again, I would try many, many different combinations. Take a look at the sim ROI, take a look at the cash rate, take a look at the top 1% rate. Don't just go solely off ROI because, you know, you need a kind of factor in more than just how often it gets first place. And that's sometimes what these sims are pointing to, but Cody did a really great breakdown on the site. Kind of a two part series that highly recommend for everybody. All right. Let's go to Seattle running back, which is also a very

29:15interesting spot. You know, we've struggled a bit to get this exactly the way that we want it, or the way that we feel really good about because there has been a lot of speculation about what the split will be between Gidarian price, George Hullani, and Emmanuel Wilson. My take was that throughout the offseason was that Hullani would play the clear passing downs. And a little bit more not as much as Sharbin A played, but clear passing downs, probably two minute drill. Then we got this report, I don't want to call it report like a take last week. Leave us from Brady Henderson, who covers the sea ox for ESPN. He suggested that Hullani could be getting goal line work. That did not make a lot of sense to me. I don't know if he's just like porting over the Zack Sharbin A Roll because Zack Sharbin A did get a lot of goal line work last year. And I agree Hullani generally will be in the Sharbin A roll, but I it would shock me if the coaches actually thought Hullani was a

30:15better option at the goal line than price. And then you also have Emmanuel Wilson, who's the biggest of the three backs and was a short yardage kind of guy in Rebe. They signed him to a very cheap contract. He makes the team as a third back here. Did have a hamstring injury for a lot of camp. So we do not have Emmanuel Wilson playing very much. Maybe he's a threat at the goal line. I tend to doubt it. I just think Gidarian price is good. If you watched hard knocks, the coaches were already loving him from like the first day of training camp. And when the chips are down, like you're going to play the best players. Now I said that a lot about Kenneth Walker should be playing more ahead of Zack Sharbin A. Coaches did not agree. But man, I'm not sure that Hullani is the same player that Sharbin A is. So I it's really hard. I like price maybe a hair more than our projection here. But there is some error bands on the projection here for Seattle backfield. Cody, how are you thinking about playing this one? Yeah, it's such a such a tough spot because I think they're priced at a point where both price and or George Hullani could be valuable options. You

31:18could see a situation where both find their way into winning lineups. I would not hesitate to play them together. You could also get into a spot where one of them looks totally dead and the other one looks looks even better than we have projected. And I think playing into a little bit of that uncertainty is the way that I plan on handling it. It's going to depend ultimately where we're final ownership projections land. But I'm kind of with you on the price stuff in that like you just expect a first round draft pick, first round talent to win out. Maybe that doesn't immediately happen in week one. But you have a first round pick who is in one of the league's most efficient offenses in one of the league's run heaviest offenses at 7200. And because of all the uncertainty that we're accounting for is not going to catch a ton of ownership. And you call it, you also kind of have the fact that this slate is so loosely priced that like if if you even view price as a value, the $7200 tag just isn't necessary because you can get up to remondrate. You can easily get up to Drake May. You can get up to JSN. So I think that you get the situation where price maybe slips through the cracks because of all the all season uncertainty. And that's

32:20kind of the uncertainty that I want to plan to. So I'm pretty into price. I don't think that necessarily means I'm out on George Lani either. I think that both are just at a salary point where I'm kind of interested in playing both of them. Well, price is in seven of our top 10 optimals here. Brought, you know, and they're all in flex, but it just shows how cheap price is relative to a starting running back role. And that's Super Bowl game. I mean, Kenneth Walker shredded the Patriots. He averaged five yards of carry. Had some really big runs thoughts on handling price and a Haleini here, bro. I also have a lot of interest in both of these guys. I do think that like you said with our optimals, Adam, price is going to make it into a lot of lineups. Haleini is going to make it into a lot of lineups just because on a base projection per dollar value, they're both on their price and they fit kind of all the different builds. I have a lot of interest in playing both of these guys at Captain, where going back to the point I made earlier week one is the least amount of information we're going to have all season. We have an idea of how this split might go, but it could be something

33:26completely different that we're not anticipating. So I like the idea of playing these guys in Captain without the other ones so that if one of them plays a lot more than we're anticipating or just runs hot and gets the touchdowns, whether that's Haleini gets to gold line touchdowns and that's a low scoring game or Gidarian price is able to break a long one or two and maybe he even gets the gold line role that we're not anticipating right now. Whatever the case is, their ceilings I think are much higher than their base projections indicate they would be just because there is ability for work to consolidate more than we're expecting here. And again, by week two, everybody's going to have an idea of like, okay, this is how it's going, but it's week one and we don't really know until we see it. So I think they're both great leverage plays at Captain. Yeah, and I mean, you know, we have price right now for 8% projected ownership in the Captain spot, you know, if you just say who is good, I feel like so many times and I'm guilty of it too, we get into

34:31this spot of it's prescripted. Oh, you know, the coaches know that they're going to do this and this. What if Gidarian price is just so much better than Haleini and that's like the base case, he's just could just be so, so, so much better. I'm interested in your take on this Cody. What do you think about playing both Haleini and price in the same lineup? Yeah, we're going to talk about this a lot this year. I feel like there's going to be situations where running backs are just priced at a point, running backs on the same teams are priced at a point where you don't have to have that same level of concern if one provides a slate winning type score than that automatically means the other one in the back field cannot provide a slate winning type score. I don't think that that's the case here for price in Haleini at all. If it's 60, 40 split on base downs, Haleini gets a little bit more work as a pass catcher and they split touchdowns or Haleini gets the touchdowns and Gidarian price just racks up more volume. There's certainly outcomes where both of them can find their way into winning lineups together. I think it's more of a problem when the prices are a little bit prohibitive and it's more of a problem when you're considering what to do

35:31specifically in those instances at captain. If Gidarian price was more expensive and he provides a slate winning score at captain, that almost certainly doesn't certainly mean but it's it's much more likely that George Lani just didn't get enough volume or have enough opportunities to score enough points to find his way into winning lineups that flex. I think I think there's a really good chance that both of these guys could end up in winning lineups together. For sure and like to be clear, what we're trying to do and show down, especially if you're playing large field stuff is find tail outcomes that the field is not playing enough because like you're going to need a tail outcome to win this and not be duped a million times. Small field is different but if you're playing the lotto and stuff like what you're looking for is weird stuff and maybe weird stuff is something like price and Halaani together here tonight. Okay, sorry Wednesday night. Let's go to wide receiver here. Brought will start with the Seattle side where of course JSN is coming off just an outrageous season in which he had 50% of the targets in multiple games, 40% of the targets

36:35in a ton of games ended up with over a 30% target share just absolutely unheard of stuff. The entire offense flowed through him. They did talk somewhat this off season about hey, we need to get more out of a sheet she heed. We need to have other guys do it more. They also lose clean kubiak which I think matters for JSN. Also, Christian Gonzalez did an incredible job on JSN in the Super Bowl. JSN had four catches for 27 yards in the Super Bowl on 10 targets. So, Brought, what do you think about JSN here in this spot at 10-6? Yeah, there's so much buzz on Christian Gonzalez especially after he got that big contract too that I do think that at least people hand building lineups in the single entry stuff and that kind of tournaments. I do think JSN could squeeze a little bit at captain. I don't think people are super excited to play him. I think everybody scared of Christian Gonzalez. I think people saw what happened in Super Bowl. You could write off some of what happened in Super

37:39Bowl 2. JSN was hurt in that game as well. Regardless, I think the narrative out there is just that JSN could get shut down here or even if he's not shut down. The Seahawks might just look in other directions. So, I think it creates a situation in hand builds where people aren't going to really want to play him in captain and that's going to limit how much Sam Darnold has played. That's going to maybe limit even how much the other wide receivers are played in kind of a weird way because they're just going to stay away from the Seattle passing game in general. So, it creates a weird ownership dynamic for the small field single entry stuff where I do think that we could see kind of wider discrepancies than normal of the ownership in those contests versus the millimaker type contest, which is what Cody's doing these projected ownerships for. So, I would definitely be consider of that when you are building your small field lineups and your single entry lineup that

38:40if you like JSN, go for it, play him and captain because I think he has some protection here with the Gonzo narrative out there. Yeah, and I don't love JSN in this spot, but there just aren't that many players on the slate that can actually get you 30 or 35 points. And so, from that perspective, I'm still interested, but I do not think this is a great spot for JSN. I will note Tori Horton, I believe, is still questionable. We do not have him in right now. Cooper Cupp led this receiving room in targets in the cerebral Cody with 12. This has been a controversial thing, all off season. For a while, we had Cooper Cupp at like 170, 180 in the best ball ranks, and you would have thought that we like murdered someone's mother. How could you have Cooper Cupp at 180th overall in the best ball ranks? I mean, I don't disagree that he's washed. There's not much of his ceiling, but he did have 12 targets and way that you beat these really good corners is by working over the

39:40middle, you know, tight ends, slot guys and stuff like that. So Cody, any thoughts on Cupp, JSN, or any other Seattle White receiver thoughts? Yeah, I wanted to note on JSN specifically, the the ownerships that we have for our for large field, the Sam pointed out, and they have been manually adjusted at this point already. There'll be a just again before lock Wednesday night, but they are kind of accounting for some of the stuff that Sam talks about with Christian Gonzalez, shadow treatment, and everything else could be acting gone. It comes down to a price thing, though. I just think that we're ultimately going to see a ton of the field pile into him at 10.6. He's $1,200 under price, just like a lot of the rest of these guys are, and has the highest ceiling on the slate. So I think ultimately, it's on a projection in Simbrose that find their way there, but I do think that as Sam pointed out, the hand-built stuff could ultimately keep his ownership in check. I hate to do this thing, so I feel like I do this on every showdown show, but you know, the Rashid Shaheed stuff, the high A dot, low volume type receivers are the ones that, and they could get there on just a couple of catches. Those are the types of outcomes that we're looking for to get that ceiling that we're looking for at both Flex and Captain at this price point.

40:45We've already talked about it a bunch. I think it's going to be, roster construction is going to be as stars and scrubs heavy as possible. You're going to get as many people that play JSN and Drake May and Remondri Stevenson and AJ Brown, and then you're going to funnel further down the leaderboard in the Simbrose in 3K type options that are available. Holan is one of them. There's some receivers that we'll talk about in a second that also fit that build, but I think Shaheed is the one that, to me, feels like he could get lost in the sauce, and there's so much uncertainty around what his role is going to look like this season. But if we're looking for an opportunity to take advantage of that uncertainty, feels like week one's a pretty good chance to do it. Got paid this off season, cups another year older. There's all this off-season smoke about the role expanding and improved chemistry with Sam Tharnold. It didn't look pretty for Shaheed last year, but I'm kind of willing to bet on that turning around with another off-season under his belt with the Seahawks. I feel like the ownership now is appropriate. I do worry that these types, these kind of wide receiver archetypes, like Shaheed, we'll talk about dobs too on the other side. They just tend to get a little bit more captain

41:46ownership than maybe they should because the field, like me, is trying to play for some of those tail outcomes. So if it stays in the 4, 4 and a half, 5% range on Shaheed, I'm pretty interested. If I get the sense that it's going to seem higher than I'm willing to check out there. If you want to talk about who has the best matchups, it's Shaheed and Cup, much more than JSN. She'd got to the team mid-season last year. I thought that they would integrate him more into the offense quicker. They did not. They had an entire off-season now to do so with a new coordinator. I buy that they're going to integrate him more. It doesn't mean that it'll all happen early, but I do buy that they'll integrate him more. The other thing that you get when you play Shaheed is I expect him to be continued to be their punt and kick returner. If you play him with Seattle defense, the patented double dip, you could get six points from Shaheed for scoring a punt return touchdown and six points for Seahawks defense. If he scores a punt or kick return touchdown there. I mean, I cup at 5200. I feel better about his target projection than Shaheed at 6400.

42:55I think it'll be close, but you do say the 1200 there would cup if that matters. We'll get to tight end here. I'm sorry. We need to do New England. I almost forgot. Our precious new Patriots wide out core. We already mentioned the AJ Brown stuff a while at the top. Going to see a bunch of Devon witherspoon who was PFF's number one corner last year. The base three wide wide seat reset for the Patriots will be Brown and Dobbs. Pop Douglas comes on in three wide resets for the slot. I do want to be clear though. The Patriots will rotate. I mean, MacHounds is going to play. He's like their favorite blocker. Kyle Williams. Did he make the preseason first team all preseason team Kyle Williams was absolutely unreal this preseason for the Patriots. I think he deserves to get some snaps also. I think AJ Brown is going to play a ton. Beyond that, I expect to see somewhat of a rotation. That includes Romeo Dobbs. I like Dobbs, but I do think they like

43:56MacHollins and Pop Douglas here as well. Cody, how you thinking about playing Patriots wide receiver? Yeah. Dobbs fits the same mold I think as Shaheed of that price point stunt. Not the exact same archetype, but the same type of price point where he just doesn't really fit neatly into the slate. The projection and price value, price adjusted value is pretty similar on him. So I think you get into a same situation where in small field stuff, specifically you're going to see total ownership and maybe Captain ownership squeeze just a little bit on Romeo Dobbs. I think AJ Brown is among the Slates best Captain options as well. If you can just kind of port over some of the stuff that he was doing in Philadelphia last year, when it was kind of a roller coaster season for him, he could have had a chance to kind of consolidate targets here in New England as well and kind of be that Alpha Wide receiver one that Drake May has been looking for. I think Pop Douglas is really interesting. I hate to like put too much into the the preseason stuff, but it felt like a really bullish preseason from him and that the training camp stuff felt really good. And the fact that he

44:56just didn't play in the preseason was a really bullish signal. The Patriots didn't play any of their starters in any of the three preseason games. And they felt good enough to ship away a Keisha Boudie. Mac Hollins played in the preseason. As you mentioned Kyle Williams was like a focal point of what they were doing in the preseason was just an absolute monster as they were trying to get him going in those exhibition games as well. So it felt like a pretty good signal that Pop Douglas has a secure enough role in this offense that he was not out there at all. So as you pointed out, I think being out there in three wide receiver sets consistently is a strong signal at 3k. Makes sense is a really strong value option. The thing and reason why he's not coming with any ownership is you just don't need that 3k value all that often. So I think he ends up getting a little bit underplayed. And if you just play for him, as Sam kind of pointed out with a Mondrake, if you just play for him to be appropriately priced and outscore the guys that are priced directly above him, you can get lineups that would look very similar to others that just leave salary on the table by playing Demarri O'Douglas. I like him as well. I wanted to be in on Kyle Williams. 2600 just isn't free. And you have this situation where because of the way the

46:01slate is priced, he's actually going to have to do something to find his way into winning lineups. So if you know catches a bomb for 60 yards and it touched down, obviously that's going to be plenty. I think at 2600, but I just have doubts that there's going to be enough volume for him to pay off that price tag at 2600. So I'll wait and see on Kyle Williams see if he gets cheaper throughout the showdown season where I can take chances on him. But the the offseason narrative around him was obviously pretty bullish too. And they want to get him going on some of those deep shots and use his speed if they can. I know. I want I like I'm not probably not going to play the lotto, but I'd be hard pressed not to click Kyle Williams in the lotto just because I'm like you know, if you're hashed that team preseason Cody, how could you not call Kyle Williams in a lotto? I mean, he might only run 10 routes in this game. He might run eight routes in this game. It's certainly possible. And obviously 2600 is way too much for eight routes or 10 routes. But man, it's at least a fun click. And I did click in some of my final best ball drafts. I did take some round 20. Kyle Williams there in the last round as a guy who will be unowned brought anything to

47:02add on Patriots wider C before we get to tight end. I'm with Cody on pop Douglas. I do think he's a pretty strong floor play probably better for small field where you maybe don't need the pure nuts. But he should provide you with a decent floor and a little bit of upside. I think Kyle Williams is a really tough click here, especially if he gets any kind of ownership at all. Like I know we have half a percent, but even if he came in like 2% owns, I wouldn't feel great about the click there. I think he like the most likely outcome for him in my eyes is he gets one deep shot and he either connects on it or he doesn't. And it's just a very binary outcome. And even if he does connect, let's say he gets a 40 yard touchdown, that's 11 points on giraffe kings. There are situations where there's that's just not enough to even make the winning lineup on this slate because the pricing is so loose elsewhere that if there's just other players who all score 15 or more, you're not going to

48:06salary savings for Kyle Williams. So I do like him in general. I was excited about the preseason you should usage. I just don't really like him in the context of this slate. And I'll echo what Cody said on Dobs 2. I think if you're playing small field and you want to play passing games, like mixing in two of Dobs Cup and Shaheed is a really sharp way to go, where it's highly likely at least one of those three squeezes, if not all three of them once you're in small field. So I think it's especially a shot to play like two of them together. And you know, just hope that those are the guys you need because they're going to get squeezed in small field. Yes. Yeah, I agree. One of them is definitely, I mean, for sure. One of them is going to squeeze there. All right. Need to get to tight end before we do. Need to remind everyone today's show is brought to you by Polymarket, one of the world's largest prediction markets and one that is now available in every US state. Two big things on poly. First, there is a good chance we can get the

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50:14go up here to defense versus position, and this is the 2025 numbers. Again, this is looking backwards more than looking forwards. You see here that the Seahawks actually gave up more than expectation, fantasy points than expectation to tight end. And that is adjusted for who they face. That every other position, the Seahawks defense was dominant except against tight ends. And you see this with a lot of teams that have really good corner play and play the style of defense that the Seahawks do. You see them give up a lot of stuff to tight ends. Eli Raridan did make some new noise in the preseason. But I think now that chips are down here, Cody, it's going to be a lot of hunter Henry. So just from a straight matchup perspective, I can make a case that hunter Henry has one of the best matchups in this game. What do you think about him? Any other thoughts on tight end on the New England side? Yeah, I think I think Henry's going to end up being really popular. Now, obviously, there's a lot of stuff that we have to account for that happened in the Patriots off season that could impact how

51:15he's used this year. Obviously, the addition of AJ Brown and Romeo Dubs could have an impact. Maybe Eli Raridan steals a little bit of his work, though I think the expectation would be for him just to be out there and multi-tight end sets when Henry's already on the field. But last year, Henry was nearly $2,000 more expensive than he's priced here in week ones. We talk about all these guys that feel a little bit underpriced. Henry, despite everything that has changed around him, also feels really underpriced. And last year at 6,800, at a $6,800 average salary price point, he carried 36% ownership, 5.5% captain ownership. Just like a safety blanket that the field seemed to like to roster pretty frequently last year. So I think if anything, we're probably under projecting both total and captain ownership right now. And then you also add in the fact that he's cheaper than both kickers. He's priced kind of right around the defenses. I think people would just rather roster, Hunter Henry given the matchup, given the volume that he saw last year. So he does make for a really safe click. I think if you're thinking cash games, there are safer options that don't have the floor concerns that somebody like Hunter Henry does. But he's certainly in the mix at 4,800.

52:17It makes for a really strong play. And it's tough to poke any or many holes in his outlook on Wednesday night. Yeah, certainly really cheap price there on Hunter Henry. And you know, always good bet to score a touchdown or at least being the mix for a touchdown here as well around the red zone where they like to look for him. So yeah, just from a matchup, I thought that was really strong. On the other side, we get AJ Barner with a similar projection and price point here, brought. I do think Elijah Royal like can play. I do think he's like a legit pass catcher. I'm not sure exactly what his role is going to be. We saw Barner have some nice games. I would say relative to what I thought he could do as a receiver last season, brought any thoughts on handling Barner versus Hunter Henry or anything else like that. Yeah, Hunter Henry is probably the leading candidate to kind of get the most steam when it comes to a small field hand built line-ups. He just fits everything like you guys talked about. So I'd be careful with that. Don't think that,

53:21you know, these ownerships are going to hold in the really small field stuff that you might be playing single entry for. Barner is kind of interesting here where I feel like people were into him for a while last season, but kind of trailed off and he got a little bit of steam for a little bit in the best ball market, but that kind of trailed off and didn't really come up. So I don't know how excited people are going to be to go to Barner. I kind of have some interest in a Royal, especially if we keep on having this situation. We're only projecting JSN cup and Shaheed at wide receiver. I do think that Royo could just play out wide or, you know, not in line the whole time, whether it's in the slot or actually out wide. So I don't think he's going to get much volume. Maybe he gets a target or two, but I do think that he's just like an interesting alternative punt play that could catch a touchdown, could get one splash play for 30 yards.

54:21He is a really fast athletic dude and not really your traditional tight end. Yeah. And you know, if Horton is out for this game, you know, more wide receiver-esque routes at the bottom of the depth chart may be available, just a few extra. For a Royal, I might make a difference. And I do think he's more of a, you know, turns Ferguson, Eli Stowers, Mike Asikki type than, you know, an inline Ajay Barnor Hunter Henry type. All right. Let's do kickers and defense together here. Cody, we already talked a bunch about the kicker stuff at the top. I do think defense is going to be somewhat popular here today, just on Wednesday, just on people think the game is going to be go under the total. So they think they're speaking stuff by people by playing the defense. But yeah, Cody thought specific to kicker and defense on this slate. Oh, I think this sorry. Sorry. Marcus brought this up earlier. Yes, we are breaking this into projection. We do have Ajay Barnor with a little bit of push push equity here, a hair

55:26of it. We have seen them do it in the past. So yes, that is baked into projections. We do think there's some chance they will use Ajay Barnor here on push push. Sorry, go ahead, Cody. That's the projection team is truly grinding it to a knob, just accounting for every possible outcome. I think Jason Myers is like the perfect example to kind of highlight all of the offseason research that I did on the kicker stuff, because you can see it there in the price point, $5,400 for a kicker is not cheap. I'm sure we're going to see Brandon Aubrey approach that six figure or not six figure approach that six K mark at some point this season. But he projects for nine draft Kings points right there at or above Hunter Henry and Ajay Barnor. And then you can also see it there with ownership to 28.8% is not nothing. 1.3% capital ownership is also not nothing for the kicker position. So I think Jason Myers kind of perfectly encapsulates everything. Again, if you're thinking about cash game contests and lineup building decisions going back to kind of playing the quarterbacks at the top of the show, I think kickers also offer just a safety that is tough to get from other players at similar price points. So if you're thinking about Jason Myers

56:29Cooper Cup or Hunter Henry or Ajay Barnor, I think somebody like him has a little bit of a higher floor and still has access to a reasonable ceiling as well. We've also found that underdog kickers just tend to go under owned. They obviously have a worse projection most times because they don't account for as many points. But I think that's going to result in a situation where you get a little bit of a lower owned Andy Bordgaalis. And I felt good enough about the ownership coming down on him that I wrote him up as a leverage option. So if you're thinking about playing kickers and just want to go with the other direction, I think Bordgaalis will come in a little bit under owned. I'm with you on the defense is coming up. I think specifically the Seahawks being a favorite. And then if you look at Brandon Thorne's stuff, I know his week, I don't think his week one, O-line D-line mismatches are out yet. If they are, I apologize. But just looking at the offseason stuff, Patriots offensive line, I think he had ranked 24th. Last I looked Seahawks D-line fifth. So you have a nice match up there for a home favorite defense that is also just very good across the board and has good corner play as well. So I think the Seahawks, the fact that I felt confident enough in their price point and projection

57:33to write them up as a potential value option is just further indication that the field is going to have no problem gravitating toward them as well. I do think the Patriots will stay in check. The 34 hundred dollar price point feels really cheap. But you're going to be comparing them to again, players like Hunter Henry, AJ Barner, DiMario Douglas, and then some other guys that are a little bit more expensive. I think the Patriots will probably stay in check despite most of the field anticipating this game being kind of gross. Yeah. I mean, the Patriots can get very pass heavy under Josh McDaniel, which is obviously something that you want when you're playing and opposing defense here. Brought an interest for you in either of these in the captain's spot or how you planning on handling kicker and defense. It feels weird to say, but I do think that these special teams positions here are going to like really decide the slate. I do think like you said, Adam, Patriots could get a little bit pass heavy here, especially if they want to give or Mandraia breather without really having to play these other running backs, which I do think is going to be the case. Like Cody said, the underdogs, especially on the road, tend to go underplayed. So I think the

58:40Patriots defense is a really interesting leverage spot, not only because of just the low ownership on them, but also because of the scripts that typically come with a particular defense being optimal. I think Andy Borragales is really interesting. I always have interest in the Seahawks defense, especially when they're playing home. They're just one of these defenses that has a ceiling that others don't. And then I think Jason Myers is really interesting because he was unreal good last season. And the field really caught on to that. He got a lot of ownership whenever the Seahawks were island games, including in the Super Bowl. But he was awful this preseason for those of us, playing preseason showdown every week. He's just like ruining lineups. He couldn't make an extra point. It was really bad. And as somebody who played a lot of them, I wasn't really happy with it. So I was already tilted with him. But if that continues over here, I don't think a lot of the field was watching him miss these extra points like Cody and I were. So I do think it could be a

59:46case where he gets a little overwhelmed. And maybe he just turns around and bouncing back for the regular season here. But if he's got any kind of issues continuing over into the regular season, I do think he's going to be quite a bit overwhelmed. I see the comment to that Borragales wasn't very good either. But at least he's not going to come with the ownership of Jason Myers. All right. Yeah. I'm your Huckleberry who I believe is a Patriots fan. And Andy, he's on a first name basis with the Patriots kicker said that Andy stuck in the preseason too. All right. Need to get the flag plans. But shout out to Tony. Appreciate you. Said get the in season package. Thank me later. Appreciate you. Tony again for anyone. Does not have ETR in season. Be sure to check that out. All right. Oh, any fandal notes for the people here. Cody, by the way, for main slate in season, we are covering fandal much more in depth. We have dedicated people on fandal the season for ownership for the main slate, but and content as well. But yeah, any fandal specific notes here

1:00:54for the people. Cody. Yeah. Pressing actually maps pretty closely to fan from fandal with the draft Kings this week. That's not always the case. I think as we get into the season more, there will be more discrepancies. The two biggest ones that set out to me was Ramondra. We've already talked about it. I think when I wrote it up, I was kind of expecting Travian to play and just be limited. But he's an even better value on fandoo. Then he is on draft Kings where he's $10,000. Obviously, the running back position and the half point PPR nature kind of changes things a little bit. But Drake may is more expensive. Sam Darnal to more expensive. Jackson Smith and Jigba is 13K flat. So, I think the 10K price tag on Ramondra just makes him an even better value, which probably doesn't matter in the green scheme of things. Then the aforementioned Jason Myers is 6,400 there. On fandoo, he is cheaper than the both defenses and excuse me, $400 cheaper than his own defense, $200 cheaper than the Patriots defense. So, I think that price point on Jason Myers on fandoo makes him a superior value player. All right. Let's go to the moment everybody has been waiting for

1:01:57the first flag plans of the season. They didn't watch the show. They just fast forwarded to the flag plans. No pressure whatsoever. I will give brought the floor first for your flag plan. Yeah. So, I was thinking back. I believe it was two years ago for the NFL opener in 2024 was the first show I ever did with you guys. It was the first show I'd ever done. Just period for DFS. Very nervous. I've never done anything before and got the chance to join you guys for a free show, not even behind the paywall. So, extra people watching it. And I came on here and I flag planted the Kansas City defense. And I got booed off the show. I thought I was never coming back. Somehow, I'm still here two years later. So, I'm going to take that as a sign. It was actually a good flag plant, not a bad one. And I'm going to go back to a defense exactly what everybody wants. Defensive flag plant. And I'm going to go to the Patriots because like I said earlier,

1:02:59I think it just gets you in different game scripts than what the field is going to be playing. I think George Holanese is going to catch some ownership. Patriots defense are cheaper than him. And they provide direct leverage off of him. There's other plays that are going to be pretty popular down there. I think there's a lot of good leverage spots on the slate. But I'm going to go with another defense here for my official flag plant. All right. Brought with the Patriots defense for flag plant. Love it. You know, one thing you could say, man, what if Kling Kubiak was the whole key to this thing? And now he's gone? I wouldn't be the craziest thing I've ever heard. Cody, go ahead. We had an opportunity to do the funniest possible thing and get a natural CSU double dip there when Sam teed up the defense. I thought he was going to see Hawks. But I'm going to go with the guy that would benefit from a Seahawks touchdown or be the reason why the Seahawks potentially score a defense or special teams touchdowns. Sometimes you just you have to stay true to yourself. That's all I'm going to do here. It's been a long running thing of me losing money with guys that

1:04:02have mouthwatering eight dots and just generally don't see the volume or perform well enough to actually realize those air yards. The Rashid Shaheed 27 and a half yard eight out 23 yard eight out 25.8 yard eight out in the three games the last postseason. What if that role expands? What if he still sees those downfield targets, specifically a Tory Horton still sideline and he gets some more underneath stuff to actually supply some more volume to this current role. I think the ownership is going to come down or at least be held in check here. So I'm going to go Rashid Shaheed captain for my first flag plan of the year with or without Seahawks defense for the double dip Cody. I'm going without he's going to do it offensively. He doesn't need great if he wants him but he doesn't need the punt or kick return touchdowns to find a slate winning score. He's going to do it on offense. Okay. All right. I thought about a few guys here. I thought about going with Cooper Cup just to shove it down all the haters throats who were so angry about our best ball

1:05:03rank of 180 or 190 or whatever it was on on Cooper Cup. And I do think Cooper Cup is going to see five or six targets in this game. But I'm not going to go Cooper Cup for the first fire plan in the season. That would be embarrassed. When I'm playing week one, I'm trying to think of things when we look back at week one from week two, be like, Oh, of course, that was obvious. And the number one thing from this game that I can think of along those lines is, of course, Gendary and Price is a thousand times better than George Hullani and Emmanuel Wilson. Of course, Gendary and Price was stuck behind Jeremiah Love. That just kept his tires fresh. And now he's here to go nuts on the NFL. So what if Gendary and Price is actually like a top five top six running back in the NFL right now? And we just don't know because we didn't really see him that much in Notre Dame. And we didn't really see him that much in the preseason. And we just don't know. And so there's just like no excitement whatsoever around Gendary and Price. If he goes off on the Patriots, there will be a lot of buzz on Gendary and Price going to week two. So I'm very

1:06:05interested in the usage. I'm very interested in how he plays. I think the the ceiling outcomes on price are way better than the floor outcomes. So I will go with Gendary and Price here at 7,200 and 38% ownership. All right. That's going to do it for the first showdown show of the season. Not sure yet if the showdown show for Rams 49ers will be free or in season subscribers. But starting next week, most of these shows will be for in season subscribers. What I do know Friday night, myself, Silva and Wiggins established the show for in season subs and then Saturday morning, Leonie and Ding talking DFS tournaments for in season subs there as well. Looking forward to that very much. Also projections for all the games will be up tomorrow night.

1:07:07All right. Appreciate y'all being here. So glad the season is back. Thanks to everyone who tuned in all offseason but alas at his time for the actual games for Cody for Brock. Bruce Orion for everyone behind the scenes at ETR which is a ton of people who put in a ton of work this summer to get us here ready for week one. I am at good luck. Everybody.