Paul Hamilton on the Sabres trading for Colton Parayko

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Again, the sabers reportedly set to acquire 11th-year defenseman Colton Perrico, member

of team Canada at the Olympics.

He's been with the Blues his entire career, was a young stud when they won their Stanley

Cup eight or so years ago, whatever year that was.

That was 19.

19?

Yeah.

All right.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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This isn't going to come cheap, Paul.

If the reports are correct, the first round pick, Murca from last year, maybe this year's

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Sounds like two first, if you think of it that way, for a player who's got a pretty big

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What do you think?

Yeah.

And a guy who's, you know, 32 years old will be 33 in May, so.

But, you know, this is what this new general manager does.

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And this guy is still at age 32, a premier defenseman in the National Hockey League.

I mean, it's not like you're getting somebody that's on the way down.

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The sabers do have, you know, other young defensemen too

that are coming on the right side.

So it's not, you know, it's not like the cupboard is bare.

I think Murtka overall is the best one.

But Adam Kleber is considered an excellent defenseman.

You know, he was a second-round pick the year before in 2024.

He's at the University of Minnesota Duluth.

And, you know, he's played on the World Junior Team for Team USA.

So, you know, he is still around, you know, I think Murtka

from what I've seen might turn out to be the better player.

And he was a higher draft pick.

But, you know, it's, it's, you know, and Sterbick is another one.

Sterbick played, I believe, yeah, Michigan State.

And he's 20 years old and he was a second-round pick in 2023.

Both big, both right-handed shooting defensemen.

So it's not like the cupboard is bare

when it comes to young defensemen like that.

So I don't see a problem with it.

Yeah, I'm not worried about so much that Murtka's involved.

But seeing another number one, like seeing that price,

we haven't seen yet, Paul.

And this often is like maybe the last piece of the trade

that gets leaked out is salary retention.

And to me, if I want to get all the way there on Paraco

because I can see they're a better team tomorrow,

you know, or as soon as Paraco is in the lineup,

then they were last night if he's here

because, you know, a future one and Murtka

who's playing Junior Hockey aren't helping me right now anyway.

So in the short term, I'm good.

And I'm especially okay if they're keeping 50% of this money

moving forward.

But if they're not, and I've just added four more years

of six and a half million to that decore

that already has power getting paid

and Dallin getting paid,

Samiston's a pretty modest contract,

but there's a lot of term there.

And by where my guess is shorter, right?

There was only a two-year deal for him.

It's just a big contract for a guy

that's on the wrong side of the age curve to me.

But if it's cut in half, I'm gonna be a much easier sell.

Yeah, and again, either way,

I think you have to just look at it at, you know,

what you're getting in your,

it's six and a half is not a big contract

for a guy like Paraco, you know.

You would think that would cost you a lot more

for a guy of that kind of talent.

Six and a half for a defenseman down the road

is not going to be considered that.

But again, we're talking about age

as you get down to 2029-30,

which is how long his contract goes to.

But, you know, it's the price of doing business.

It's the sabers have a lot of young players.

They don't need draft picks right now

and they don't need young players right now.

Now, you don't want to put the cupboard bare.

But if you're giving up one first round pick,

well, you're basically giving up too.

I mean, if what the reports are,

all right, one that's already been drafted,

and one that hasn't.

That's the cost to do in business.

And you still, as I mentioned, have guys

that are considered to be very good prospects

coming, coming through the system.

Sabers reportedly trading for Colton Paraco

of the Blues, Canadian Olympian.

When did the Sabers ever had a team Canada Olympian

on their roster?

I mean, this comes after the Olympics, of course,

but still Brian Maserowski clever,

good to do this after last night, he says,

because of the ceremony.

Well, Paul, I think I know the answer to this

and you've kind of already said it again here,

but from our conversations about the deadline

and what you like most for the Sabers,

this is pretty much it, isn't it?

Yeah, and when surprised me, maybe if I know

they like Kessel Ring and part of a trade,

wouldn't surprise me if he becomes part of a trade out.

Or if they just want to stay with the depth,

but right now, Kessel Ring might be the guy

without uniform on.

Once Paraco gets here, he may be up in the press box.

So it just depends how things break down.

So I could maybe see, especially when we're talking

about money and salary cap and that type of thing,

especially since Kessel Ring also needs a contract,

I could see maybe that he could be on the way out possibly.

What do you think of that?

What Kessel Ring being an odd man out here?

I like him moving forward this year.

I mean, it's been a lost year.

And I don't know that I would want to be so sour

on him to say, get him out of here.

I still think he can help you,

but he needs, you said it, you said it a month ago, Paul.

Like sit him until he's healthy

and if he's not going to be healthy all year,

just get somebody else.

Maybe that's what this is like you're saying.

But I wouldn't be quick to, unless somebody's dying

to have them and it's a deal that I can't pass up

or whatever, but I'm not eager to divest myself.

I'm eager to improve on him for now

and this clearly does that.

No question.

I'm just really curious to see how he'll end up

being fitting in here, you know?

Because Paul, the way I've talked about this team,

I think everyone knows this that listens us

on a regular basis, those top four D are their thing, right?

And that's puck moving and that's in and out of the zone

and it's cycling out high in the offensive zone.

And I'm just not sure if Pareko ends up pulling down minutes

in the top four because of his size

and his physical nature and they want that,

maybe a little more balance.

I feel like I might be losing something

when he's out there with Owen Power

and it gets to Pareko and like, okay, the play's over now.

You know what I mean?

He's just not a guy that I want,

I don't want the puck on his stick in the offensive zone.

And those other four guys, absolutely anytime,

all four of them, get them the puck,

they're gonna make good plays with it.

Pareko's got a big shot and he's a mean defender.

I'm just not sure I want him paired up with somebody

that's used to making plays.

And I'm not, when I say that, it's not because I'm sour

on...

Castle ring?

Castle ring?

It's just, I look at it that's, you know,

they're only six jerseys to put on.

You know, and moving forward.

So where does he fit in when your defense is healthy?

I don't, just quickly going through my mind.

I don't see where he fits in.

And that's all I'm saying.

It's not that I'm soured on him or you know,

I was, yeah, when they acquired him and I really,

really liked what I saw last, you know,

in the world championships.

And even when he was with Utah, I really,

but I'm thinking, okay, there's Samuelson,

there's Dalyne, there's Power,

and there's Bull Byram.

I don't put him past any of them.

I don't put him past Pareko.

So I guess there's one more spot.

Yeah.

You know, if you want to talk about that,

so you could look at that way.

So wait a minute, there is a spot for him.

There's one more spot there that,

that you know, if you're looking for to put somebody in there.

So it's not like it's necessary you have to,

but this puts a lot more money into your blue line now.

And this is a guy that also needs a contract.

Well, that's a really close one for me, you know,

they could do it.

They don't have to do it at all.

And we've lived through the cupboard

ending up bearer on the blue line in a playoff run

before, although that's a long time ago.

They don't have to do it one year, RFA,

but if somebody came calling and could help you replenish,

or even be a roster player.

I mean, I'm wondering here, Paul, as we're talking,

it's still two more days.

And this obviously shows an aggressiveness

from the Sabers that isn't surprising,

given what it sounded like.

Could they do something else?

You've traded your number one pick now,

which interestingly is in a draft that they'll be hosting,

kind of a bummer in that respect.

If it ends up being that, like the reports are saying,

but what more might they have room for

and perhaps an appetite for?

Yeah, you know, from a salary cap standpoint,

it's kind of your, you've pretty much put yourself

in a spot money in, money out right now.

And it moving forward.

Right, this guy was up most of the room they had.

Right, right.

If it's the full boat, which again, we're waiting.

I'm very hopeful that it won't be given the price they paid.

Cause I think usually the price paid indicates

some salary retention.

And so anyway, but go ahead, Paul.

I mean, it could be.

I mean, that's, you're right.

I mean, what you're getting at is right.

I mean, usually it's like, well, we want more for this player.

And it's like, okay, if you want more for this player,

we'll do it, but you're going to have to keep some money.

You know, and you're going to have to help us out that way.

All right, just think of the last time the Sabers had a trade

with the St. Louis Blues.

They got two players.

They didn't work out very well that they didn't want,

but they had to take in the O'Reilly trade.

And Sebotka and Berglins, they didn't want either one of them.

Berglins, they had to take them.

Yeah, quick, the NHL.

Right, yeah.

So, and that was part of it.

It's like, all right, you want to make this deal, whatever.

You're going to have to take these two, you know, and they did.

So, that very often is what you're talking about is exactly right.

It's, okay, this is going to be a steep price, and we'll do that,

but you're going to have to help us out here with some money.

And of course, Thompson can, in that very trade from the Blues.

There's nothing, well, we've seen one report that

Paraco isn't believed to have waived his no trade clause to this point.

Paul, what's the timeline on that?

Wouldn't that have to happen before everybody starts running with this, like it's done?

Well, you probably are talking to the wrong guy when it comes to rumors and that kind of stuff.

I'm not big on rumors, but this seems to be not just one guy talking about this.

This seems to be a people universally talking about this.

So, it's kind of past that point.

Yeah, I mean, nobody's saying, it's like, well, he can still put the caboch on this type of a thing.

So, you would think he and his agent, if they aren't there, they are basically there.

And, you know, I've figured, because don't forget too.

All of these people have put the Buffalo Sabers on their no trade,

whether the ones that have a partial no trade, they did it when they signed their contract,

when the Buffalo Sabers were nowhere.

And the Buffalo Sabers hadn't been in the playoffs since 2014,

and everything, nothing looked like it was even remotely positive in that sense.

So, things have changed quickly in the Buffalo Sabers organization.

So, you look at it that way, I think more guys might be willing to wave it.

It's not necessarily weather in that type of thing.

If you are a good team, people will come.

Nobody wanted to come to the Buffalo Bills until Josh Allen and McDermott showed up.

And then all of a sudden, winning started.

Then all of a sudden, okay, yeah, cool.

Let's go to the Buffalo Bills, let's go play on that team.

The Buffalo Sabers had no problem getting people to come to Buffalo

when Dury and Briar were on the team,

or when Dominik Hoshik was helping them to the Stanley Cup finals,

they had no problem having people come to play for the Buffalo Sabers.

So, winning is what talks about it.

And what this team is doing now, I think,

will raise some eyebrows for an agent and a player to say, you know what?

What do you think? Maybe should we rethink this?

You know, and that's what a season that they're having.

And they just keep showing that, you know what, this is going to end.

And just when people think it might be ending and they keep saying, no, no, it's not.

We're going to win again, you know.

And now people are saying, well, they basically are going to be in the playoffs.

They're right on the tail with the Tampa Bay Lightning for number one in the conference.

When does the, when does the, when does the rugged pulled out?

Well, it hasn't yet.

Yeah, I do, I do want to say, I do like, I mean, I loved yesterday thinking about them

being so aggressive to go try to get Robert Thomas.

And so the aggressiveness point going for it, I think is totally called for.

I talked a lot about this yesterday, Paul.

Given the conference, they are right on Tampa's heels.

There's not a team in the conference anyway that looks like their world's better than them.

Right?

So, you know, you should treat it as though you can get in the playoffs and not just be

happy to be there, but that you could make some noise when you're there.

And this absolutely is something that points to that.

So I'm not all sour about it.

I'm just, the money is kind of freaking me out.

And like I said already, I'm a little worried about where he'll slot in.

In part because of his, his reputation and his style, they may feel like they want to

mess with those top four and put Paraco higher up in the lineup than what I was necessarily

thinking they should be shopping for, which was just an upgrade to their third pair.

So they can play them more than, you know, the sheltered minutes that they're using

Metsa in, for example.

But well, that all remains to be seen, you know, like what role they'll have, where he'll

fit in and how it will all fit together.

See, see, this fits exactly what I've been talking about.

And I actually would envision maybe a third pair, but a third pair that plays 18 to 20

minutes and take some of those minutes off those other four, I be all four, I don't think

he necessarily has to be in the top four, but you can still get them at 18 to 20 minutes,

which, and as I said, take minutes away from three of the four guys.

I don't necessarily think you need to take minutes away from Dalline, but the other three

out, because I just think they're going to be, they're going to fatigue out.

So this is exactly what I've been talking about.

And yeah, put them on a third pair, and, but be working them in because, you know, the

way they set things up, I mean, Murtka goes in warmups as a left defense, and I don't

think he ever plays left defense during the game.

It's just that's the way he warms up, but they, they just kind of keep working him in

at times, and then they'll work in the other guy in at times.

If it happens to be Bryson or somebody else, you meant Metsa here, not you said Murtka

by mistake.

I mean, I'm sorry, Metsa, and, and Kesselring, you know, that it's like, well, they're both

right in shooting defense, and you watch warmup, Metsa plays left defense in warmup.

I don't know if he's taking a shift at left defense, but, you know, it's like, okay, this

shift, Kesselring's going to play right, and Dalline's going to play left.

And next time one of them, that you want to put one of them out, that Metsa's going to

go out there, and power's going to play left, you know, and, and, and, you know, that's,

that's how the minutes of those top four rolling up, because they, they all get an extra

shift with whoever you want to throw out there at the time.

Then by the end of the night, Kesselring and Metsa might have 10 to 12 minutes that they're

playing, and, and one of them can still do that, where I would, I would rather parake

go beyond that third pair and be maybe up towards 1820, and bring in the minutes of some

of the other guys down.

Do you think that there is any chance that they've made this move with a mind towards moving

someone like Owen Power or Bowen Byron Paul?

I never say never, that's not what I'm envisioning, you know, that that's happening here, but

I never say never, especially with this guy, I mean, we don't, we, we know what he's

done in Columbus, but here he is in Buffalo, and his first, his first move is a, is a swing,

you know, it's a heavy swing, it's a swing that we haven't, you know, we really haven't

seen since what Tim Murray, when Tim Murray's bringing in O'Ryland, he's bringing in Cain,

and he's, you know, he, he basically did empty the shelves, you know, but he got too carried

away, because now he was giving up first round picks for Leonard, and that type of thing,

so it almost got irresponsible there, so, you know, we haven't seen anything like this

before, but he did it in Columbus, and it wasn't afraid to do it, and now his, well, his

second trade, his first trade was a trade for the Rochester Americans, the second trade

now is, is, is a big swing, and it shouldn't be surprising to any of us.

Well, I mean, I shouldn't say never, but the Sabers have almost never had this kind of

team before, where defensively they are so rich, and I mean, some people are going to question

this trade for that reason alone, like just, is that really where we're weakest, but

I, I think I love it, I mean, I don't know how good the guy is anymore, I'm reading some

of that, I have a ton of respect for Travis, and his problem with the trade is, he doesn't

think Perico is, Perico anymore, and then you've got the years ahead of everything like

that, but they've just never been, when is the, when Sabers history has their blue line

been their strength, you know, like just the 506, 607, he was, we're witchy, and, you

know, you had the Hashek era, French connection, they've just, like they've never come close

to like a Norris trophy or anything like this, now you've got Dallini at the top of it,

and this young group of defensemen added to this group now is this, is Perico from this

move.

I'm just, I'm super excited.

I mean, all fans are already, but they've just really never kind of had this makeup before.

And the thing is with Perico, is he, is he what he was five years ago?

Yeah, probably not.

It's close though.

I mean, Team Canada is not going to take him and put him on the roster if he's not close

to what he used to be.

He might not be exactly what he used to be, but I don't think the Sabers need him to be

exactly what he used to be, but he's close enough right now that he can fill the role

I'm talking about easily, I think.

I don't think he has slipped that much.

I don't disagree with the fact that he's, he slipped a little probably, but he's not

on Team Canada if he slipped a lot.

I don't know if you guys watching up, but Team Canada didn't win.

Well, this guy never scored, I'm just saying this guy never scored.

All right.

All kidding aside.

One goal.

All season.

Paul, we, you know, we, I got lost in Robert Thomas land yesterday.

And that was a pleasant surprise that the Sabers were thought to be shopping for a player

of that caliber.

Do you think that's a sign that they will, you know, get in the market for, I don't

know, like, what are we talking about behind?

I mean, Thomas is like, singularly 26 year old point of game centerman.

There's not another guy like him on the, on the list of guys that we think are going

to be traded.

And maybe there's a guy out there that was not on anybody's list.

But do you think they'll go shopping for Vincent Trocheck now or Nazim Kadri, like any

other depth forward that could give them a guy on draws, a guy to help kill penalties,

a guy to play defense when the playoffs get here.

It's impossible to say not knowing what the money situation is and where they are with

the, you know, where are they at the salary cap and we're not going to know until we know

if the Blues are hanging on to some money here.

If the Blues are not hanging on to some money here, they, they can't unless it's money

in, money out.

Right.

It can't be, well, we'll give you a couple of picks for one of those guys you just mentioned.

Victory comes rather expensive, you know, you know, so really I, I'm not trying to dodge

your question, but it's impossible to answer it.

If, if money has not changed, if the Blues are not keeping money, the answer is no.

They're not going to do that because they can.

They just don't have the salary cap unless they, they have decided to send somebody out,

somebody's money.

Have they decided again?

This is not, I'm just saying, has, has a decision been made on talk?

We've heard nothing like that.

We've just heard, you know, negotiations continue, you know, but if, if, and I'm saying

if, not that I've heard this, I'm saying if, if they've come to the decision that there

is just too big of a gap to bridge here and all right, well, does he move out that

and then does this trade you're talking about happen because you freed up some money,

you know, to, to try, try to do that, right?

If, if you just have decided, you know what, we're too far apart and we're just not going

to get there, you know, and even if we keep negotiating till July 1st, we just don't

feel we're going to get there.

Their version of what we, they think he's worth is a lot different from our version.

We don't seem to be getting there.

So could that happen before Friday?

If that's what they're thinking and I want to stress, I'm saying if I have or nothing

to say that that's what anybody is thinking or anything like that, but they, who knows,

who knows what's happening behind closed doors?

All right, Paul, by the way, in the, whatever the game recap, the Sabers send out from last

night in this case, it did say on there that Kekalainen would be scheduled, is scheduled

to speak Friday at four.

So the deadline is three o'clock Friday and the Sabers put that out today or whenever

last night or today in that, in that format.

So yeah, and it could, you know, if, if they know for sure they're done, sometimes guy,

they know like by a quarter or three they're done or whatever, sometimes it happens earlier.

I wouldn't hold them to a time.

I would, I would just, you know, they're, they're just kind of saying he's going to talk

afterwards type of thing and it could be four.

You know, but if, if they know they're done and it's just not going to be anymore, I've

had GM's walk in at 10 after three, just because they knew they were done.

I've had GM's walk in at five because the NHL can't handle trades and at four 30, they're

still trying to process trades and the one of the Sabers trades hasn't been processed yet.

And I'm sitting there going, what year are we in right now?

All right.

The fact that you machine is kidding me.

What is wrong with you people?

Is this office space?

Let's get it together.

Who was the facts machine player?

Michael's the commandist.

Yes.

Good pull.

All right.

That is a good bill.

Thanks for jumping on with us, Paul.

Yeah.

Anytime, guys.

There you go.

There's our Paul Hamilton.

Yeah.

I don't know more to come.

We'll see.

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