Payton Tolle Dishes on Bear Hugs & Push-ups

0:00Hello and welcome to 310 to left. For Zenabyte in New England, four dealers. Tom Karen with you as the Red Sox celebrate one of the mile posts of a baseball season. Labor day with a 5-2 win over the Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim. They now extend their winning streak to five games. They are rolling once again. Bradley Rushman with the three run, home run, Jaren DeRan with a solo shot is 20th of the year. Third Red Sox hitter to hit the 20 home run. Plato now and celebrating his new haircut with a couple of extra bass hits. But the big story, Brian Beo. Getting the start, his first starts in early June, went five scoreless innings. He was far from perfect, but he limited the Angels opportunities. Struck out seven Angels hitters. An important step for Beo who hadn't registered a win as a starting pitcher. Since April of this season, Red Sox pitchers a sub-2 ERA over the five game winning streak.

1:02Here's reaction from the clubhouse N from Interim Manager Chad Tracy. That was important. Obviously when we were at home, the last home stand, you know, to be fair, like we were going through a Penn day, you know, a spot start. So, you know, kind of new, we were going to grind through that period. But coming out of that on the backside with No Day Off, it was important that because of where we went to Baltimore, some, you know, a lot of usage in our Penn that we get around as good starts. So that's five pretty good starts in a row, really good starts. So it was important that we got to that place. I'm just trying to put a quality swing on a ball. You know, this hitters very firm, you know, felt like it. So I'm just trying to catch up to it. Probably looked like I took a little bigger swing just because of that. You're the last three homers that come off guys that you've caught. How much maybe is there an advantage, just knowledge of them going up and, you know, trying to hit against them after you know their repertoire a little bit?

2:05Yeah, I think for me, I know kind of what they want to do with their, their arsenal. I know what makes them really good. So definitely have a game playing going in. I always tell people it's, it's such a different visual, though, catching versus hitting that sometimes, you know, I'll step into the batter's box against guys and it just looks so much different than when you're catching them. So, but you know, you do know kind of the what makes them really good. How fun has it been to watch the way the team's been playing? It's been fun. I get to sit back there one out of five games and just enjoy it and those seats at people and kick back and relax and watch a good baseball. Yesterday six innings, 12 strikeouts didn't walk about a second time you've done that now with the 12 strikeouts, no walks and six or fewer. When do you sort of, are you a bullpen guy like coming out of the bullpen? You feel, man, I got everything today. I feel good. Or is it something that sort of as the start goes on, you start to realize what's going on?

3:06I think for me, it's as the start goes on. Afternoon game yesterday was really hopefully got enough sleep, but going out there just me and Adley really found a groove yesterday. And then whatever we start making those early count pitches, getting ahead of guys, it can take off for us. I think for me, you know, look, strike one is the most important pitch. Getting the first guy of every innings is also important. Your numbers go way up when that happens. And I think Chad Tracey's been doing a great job of getting you guys to rest, right? So for me, you're going to be, if I was managing to be one of the guys I'm leaning on, as this season goes forward, what are you doing to be able to say? You know what? I've pitched the highest amount of innings I have in my career. I'm going to be relied on upon for the rest of this season. What are you doing to prepare yourself for that? I mean, I think it's something that we've learned going back even to like the last year, like what makes me feel good for the six day?

4:07What makes you feel good for the five day? Yeah. Just understanding that like tonight, perfect night to get to bed at 10 o'clock and try to get a good night of sleep. Or just kind of just those small things that go throughout the week that you don't realize can add up. They add up to where that fifth day rolls around in afternoon game. You're getting your sleep cut short and talking a lot about sleep. Yeah. But it's something that I really get all the time. Don't ask him. You do the occasional push up on the mound just to stay strong. How are you going to like straight here and there? That was more of my plus and negative right there. It's like I'm saying, you remind me of another good friend that Teezy and I had got him, Louis T.I. You having fun. You really have to have him fun. You know what you got to do, what you can't do, and things work on it. The other day I was telling someone that I wait. I love the way you pitched up the other day. You changed your eye level. I can talk with Pat. I love it. You had to do that because everyone's sweening up.

5:08But then again, the dislikes that I don't like is that if you're going to hug a man, you got to give a bare hook. You just go out there and you're like, you're going to be a bare hook. Yeah, be a bare. And when you have to do a push up, you least got to do five. God, one by cat. One by cat. If I start doing more, it gets ugly. Forms our skits all getting the hug. I got to know the guy helped me. That was my first time meeting the guy right there. So he gentle with it or so. Yeah, you don't want to be in the middle of push up through the pitch count. You have to go, you could have done the pitch time or is going on now. And nothing. You can't jump. So those are my three right now. No, yeah. You're pretty good. You got a taste of the playoffs last year, right? And it goes by fast, right? Like a three game, but it can be gone in the wing plank of an eye. How, you know, looking back on last year's experience, think about how that went, how excited are you to get back to it this year? And potentially have a bigger role. Yeah, I mean, I'll look back on the one out that I got last year.

6:08And, uh, bases loaded. Yeah, we stayed in them. Come on now. We got it. But it was, uh, I mean, it's that that tastes, right? And I think that for a lot of us being able to get that early in our careers of like, this is what winning baseball looks like. This is what playoff baseball looks like that. I think that that goes further than what you could think. Like I think getting there now is like, I think being in Boston, that's the expectation. Right. Like it is better be playoffs if not deeper than that. So I mean, it's, it's a whole lot of fun to be a part of this baseball. It's just good, good games, good team wins cohesive baseball. And you go back to June of like, oh boy. What are we doing in October? Right? And now it's like, oh, we got to keep rock to over open. I've just keep playing good baseball. Keep, you know, I think we've found a really good groove of pitching and good at just team baseball has been really well. That's the expectation here. Like you said, I remember we all said that at the end last year. Pap, when you were here, the expectation was playoffs every year.

7:10Yeah. Well, the expectation was with our payroll was to win the World Series every year. And we had that payroll that was almost you had to win the World Series. Or it was a bust. And we knew that. But, you know, to me, we're staying in New York right in the eyes. And that's when you can go out there and you can beat teams like the New York Yankees. That's where statues are made, man. That's where, you know, you earn your keep here. And so to me, I think you all match up very well against New York. Yeah. You know, last year's wasn't too great and everything. But for you and looking at New York straight in the eye, do you, do you get up a little bit more? Because I always used to get up a little bit more for the Yankees and when I played. So do you get up a little bit more for those big games? I mean, I guess I like to think so. I mean, I think come end of September and Dr. O'Rourke think it doesn't matter who it is. Like you got it. It's a playoff baseball. You got to get up. So that gets, that's where you do where you don't really.

8:11So it's, it doesn't matter who it is. I feel confident with whatever nine are all out there. Awesome. You know, I tried to get up at every game. And my thing was not just for the game, but I'm like, oh, school had had some team called the Patrons, some team called us south. I mean, you talk about the Bruins is all of a sudden you play with the rest of you like, man, I better go out there and play. You know, this, this is a baseball city here. And if you're not playing, if you go outside, they will let you know. Oh, yeah. Thank you. They were letting us know that earlier. Yeah. You heard it too. I'm not that, uh, sunny gray has been having such a great season. What have you learned from him and, and is he this, should he be the saw young award winner in your eyes? I mean, you see how many times we go out there, we win ball games. He pitches. And to me, it's like, the fact that he wasn't an all star and the fact that he's not getting talked about more is, is ridiculous. But he's been so much of me. It's been so much fun to learn and talk with him, get him going about things. He starts drawing on the, on the wall over there in the dugout.

9:14And it's like, so he's going. Now we just sit, now we sit back and watch. Yeah, that's his in session. Just shut up. I mean, I get it now. But now he's, he's, it has been so fun to listen to him, talk with him, get to, like, just get to know him and like, got, got having guys like him, crochet, Ranger, like those guys have been meant so much to not only me, but like, Bennett gets it, uh, early was getting him whenever he was here. But like, it's, those relationships go to long way. Believe me, if they sort of like get on you or something like that, that's because they care. They tell you, you better than that. And what are you doing? Get your head out of your ear. Come on, you better than dig down. But see, a lot of teams, you know, I have that. But when, when, when you, when you get that, say, Hey, guy really cares. Absolutely. He really cares. Hey, who's paying for meals when y'all go out, by the way? Um, that'd be crochet or sunny or, I think it trades off for once a while. I think, I think crochet has got one sun he's got one. If you got, if you got, if you got stuck with the bill before, not yet,

10:16not yet, I get real quiet. Whatever the dinner comes. I can't get my wallet married man now. He's got to say, man, he takes the food of the plane. T.C. You want to talk about the visitors clubhouse? You want to talk about it? Yeah. You're going to go there now. It's a different story. Uh, I want to ask you just your development as a picture on it. I mean, you've always had velocity, right? But you've become so much more of a complete picture. To do that as quickly as you've done it, what have been the keys to that? Like, is it a little bit of trial and error? Like trying some things and then you take it out into the game and like, okay, it's working. Like how do you decide, you know, the curve ball, the breaking pitch? How long are you incorporate that on a given day? Yeah, I mean, I think it's the game will tell you what it needs, um, what it calls for. Sometimes like, uh, go back a couple of outings. I was, I threw my cutter more than any of the pitch. And it's like, well, that I ever, that last year, did I ever think that was going to happen? Absolutely not. But like, that's what the game calls for. Um, I think it, there's a lot of trial and error, especially whenever it comes to pitch shapes,

11:17uh, how confident we are with them, like my change up right now, working progress still. And it's like, can't be fine times to use it, where I'm going to be able, like, really get the most out of it. So used it once last game and like, oh, one count. Um, but like last year, and coming up to the minor leagues, I was like, you got to go throw 15 of them and figure it out. Because it's, you need that pitch. And so right now it's just learning when to use them, how to use them, when, when the game calls for it. So, um, you know, I think that we've implementing the, the sinker and the curveball have been really big for this year. Um, like I saw yesterday, a lot of sinker usage. So you saying you pitching now instead of throwing up because that's what they, they wanted everybody to what throw through as hard as you can. Okay, where it goes, but now you pitching. Absolutely. But it is nice to be able to rear back and gas one once in a while, isn't it? For sure. I thought you were champions. I thought you and Chappah had some got to you through 102 or something like that. I got up to 100 point eight last year.

12:19And that 100 point eight means a lot to me. All right. You got to be sure. Absolutely. I'm sure that's before I want to ask about the event coming up Thursday. But I want to ask about Chapman. He gets his 400 save yesterday. You guys are all there to be part of it to see what he is doing at 38 years old. How amazing is it? It's elite. I mean, it's, it's incredible. It's, I said it yesterday to my wife like it is really cool to be being watching one of the like. He's gotten multiple accolades this year that have ended with of all time. And that is, that's really special to be a part of. And once again, sit back and watch. And I've had a few of those games where I get to come out. Chapman comes right in and like that is pretty cool. So can you imagine doing that 15 years from now? I don't know. He makes you much money now with your thing. But but but then again, I mean, when you strikes on one of you don't have a little stare or anything, you don't. I try to give a good. Thank you. We give the first pop.

13:19Good. Yeah. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. Yeah. This pumps are good. You and Devon are having the ticker tournament. The event coming up at Topgolf Boston in in Canton, 777, Deadham Street in Canton, the reception at seven o'clock. And then the event, the ticker in honor of your mom who used to say she don't what was her saying. Be a ticker on the or amazing. Gina was such so instrumental for you. And now you kind of giving back some of the lessons you learned from her to others. Talk a little about getting involved in power. Yeah, I mean, I have gotten involved with Empower. A group that is benefiting kids that have lost a parent anywhere from I think the ages of three to 23. So just being able to get involved with them has been incredible. I got to go walk around the Freedom Trail with them. Those kids are awesome. They have so much fun. And just being able to give back to an organization that benefits kids like myself of losing a parent.

14:21But just trying to be positive impacts on those kids. They have a great community. Cara, the leader over there in Empower. She does an amazing job of having retreats, special outings for these kids to get their mind off of things that are sad on. Times like Mother's Day for me, like, it's a tough day. But with Empower, I would be able to go out there and get my mind off of things for a second. So just being able to be with them, then have events like this coming up. It's it's special and it means a lot to me. You were a huge part of our Jimmy Fun Telephone as well. You know, you're still young. You're a rookie. But I think you get the platform. People look at you and you have an opportunity to affect some lives. How much does that mean to you? I mean, it's I remember like the dream was always, you know, to make the show. But then it's to how can I give back to others through this? And I've really something that I've gotten to jump on early. Being a rookie and everything.

15:21I've really been blessed with people around me to really help me out. And just excited to start this. And you and Devon got to meet Patrick Dempsey. Make Dreamy. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. So those quick stories. He's in Toronto. Who is that? Me dreamy from Grayson Avenue. It's actually a man alive. It's actually a man alive. I'm so glad to see you. I'm so glad to see you. It was a picture of the two of them you could decide, which guy was such a man alive. But I know she was pretty happy to get to meet him. She was stoked. She got to got to ask her Grayson Adamy questions. He was the absolute best. Amazing guy. And you've been amazing for all the help you've done. Good luck with the tournament on Thursday. Good luck with the rest of the season. Lesson three weeks to go now. It's coming fast. You feel it? Like we were saying today, it's a little chill in the air. It starts to feel. Yeah, it's starting to cool down a little bit. It's starting to break out the sweatshirt and dug out. It just feels good. All right. It's getting real. And Jim, thanks you for wearing the Hall of Fame cap. Always. Always. Anything for Hall of Fame with Jim Rice, you know? The great Peyton Tully with us. Thank you Peyton. We appreciate it. 310 to left is presented by your New England four dealers.

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17:24now, it's good to be back. You said that, as you said, from the job. And you also said, OK, yes, it might be unlikely. The team isn't making promises. How proud or impressed are you with yourself that here you are accomplishing close to exactly what you want to accomplish? Yeah. Like I said, it's been a long year, long process. I thank the Lord that I've grown a lot on and off the field. Growing in my faith, growing in baseball-wise, gotten a lot bigger, stronger. Stuff is just feeling right where it should be. And I've stuck with that dream the entire time of getting back around this time. I've never faltered from it, even being down in Florida. I knew what the goal was. And so to reach it tomorrow, to finally hit that checkpoint of a real game where it matters, it's a good feeling.

18:29You go through this and those things are better. Like you're physically conditioning, like all in the end. So what is better and what is the thing that you also that you feel like, OK, I'm a little bit behind? I'm not talking about just the injury, but this overall. For me, I just feel like I'm in more sync with my pitches now. With the two-seam, I feel a lot more confident with that right now. The splitter has been a pitch that throwing it down to Florida and hitters has been leaps and bounds better than what I could have imagined at this point. And then as well as tinkering with the sweeper the past week has been a great kind of evolution. Of where I know it can be and where it can end up. Where I'm behind, obviously, is getting some innings under my belt right now and getting some length built out. But that's what these next few outings are for in Portland.

19:33I get 20 tomorrow, 40 to 45 on Friday. So we're slowly getting that back. And I've built a lot of volume in terms of bullpins and light BPs. But in terms of game corrupt, we gotta obviously pick that up here at the end. Back here on 3-10 to left, that was Tanner how getting ready for an important step in his rehab from Tommy John's surgery back on the mountain in a competitive game. Tuesday night at Hadlock Field in Portland when he will pitch an inning for the C-dogs. His first game action since he pitched for the Red Sox May 12th of 2025 under when Tommy John's surgery later that season and now trying to get back and be part of the bullpen in time for the end of the season and the playoffs. Wants to join a bullpen that has one of the lowest DRAs in all of baseball since that 15 game winning streak really launched this season in early July. A role just Chapman, the anchor on the back end on Sunday. He became the ninth pitcher in history to crack the 400 save plateau.

20:38His teammates were understandably impressed. Congrats to Chapman, 400. That's incredible. I mean, to be that elite for as long as he's been a lead is it's cool to watch. And it's another moment for a thing a lot of us, especially myself to sit back and like really thankful that God has put me in this place to be able to watch guys like him. So yeah, it's amazing. You know, I'm thankful I don't have to face him anymore. That's for sure, but yeah, it's super cool to be a part of that piece of history right there. And yeah, it's been fun just seeing, you know, how he goes about his business on a day-to-day basis like how hard he works and he's always locked in and ready for ready to take them out. And yeah, it's been really cool in my short time here to get to watch how he goes about it. There is 400 saves for a role this Chapman, just the ninth reliever in Major League. The history to reach that plateau 22 behind Billy Wagner for eighth all time,

21:39but getting it done to finish off the sweep and doing it in style with a 101 mile an hour fastball. Here's what Chapman said about the honor after the game. Happy, happy. That was one of the first ones gold that I have for this year. And thanks God I was able to accomplish that. I just want to ask which one of the players I was looking for? No, no, no. I don't know. No, no, no. I just want to say, no, no. I think that I was playing in the first pitch. No, no. I just was focused on making a good pitch at that point. Sounded like there was quite a celebration in here for you. What was that like just having the team celebrate you? No, it's just happiness. Happy. At that point in the first hour computational competition facing, as ALKI CEP очень siege. So, I just wanted to welcome that. To the whole including 140

22:4911 stadiums is so good. Just asμεo Jean-C 할�monaire than And that's one of the best things that can happen for me right now. That my teammates are happy for what I've done so far. You've done a lot of things in your career. How do you see how you can see this for a man? I've done a lot of things in your career. I've achieved a lot of things in your career. How does that mean? I think it's one of the special things that I've lost my role as a coach. I've been doing a lot of things for two or three years. You can be a coach, and then give me the opportunity to do it. And it was a goal that I was putting in. I can do it now, but I can do it now. It was a thing that I've been thinking about for a long time. But I can do it now. It's very special. Very special. A few years back I lost my role as a coach. I had two or three years so I wasn't able to close the game.

23:51When I came here to this team they gave me the opportunity to compete for a closer job. I was able to win it. That was one of the things that I wanted to do in my career. There was a moment that I thought I wasn't going to be able to do it. But thanks God right now we're here. I was able to get to 400. Now that you're a coach again, how many more years have you been doing? I've been doing it for a long time. How many more years have you been able to achieve? I don't know. I can do my job, I think I can try to do it. I don't know what I'm doing. But I think the most important thing is to be able to do my job and be able to help the team achieve it. I don't know. I don't know. As long as I can do the job, that's something that I want to do. As long as I can have the team win and that's something that I'm very excited for. All right, Jonathan Pavabon, 368 saves of your own.

24:51You know more than anybody how tough it is to do what he's done for as long as he's done. Yeah, I got two words for you. They're in Spanish. Mujie Forte and Durro Trebajo. That means he's a hard worker and he's a strong, strong man. And that's what has gotten him to the point where he's at today, T.C. You don't regain a role or lose a role and regain your role as a closerer by not putting in the work, right? And that's what happened throughout his career. And as a closerer, it's different than any other position because you almost are a position player. You go day by day and you prepare yourself to play every single day, T.C. There's not really many off days that you got during the season, unless the manager comes up to you and says, hey, I need you to have a day today because you've pitched three days in a row or four days in a row, whatever the situation may be. So for him to be able to continue to do that at age 38 really blows my mind because at 36, when I was 36,

25:52man, that wall hits you and it hit me. And so for him to be able to continue to do what is the most impressive thing to me. That's what's fascinating to me. There were very few guys, if you look through history, guys who are elite closers who lose the role over time, who get it back. Some guys reinvent themselves and set up guy, they go long, whatever. But this guy not only lost that role last year was not the closer in Pittsburgh or two years ago. Comes here, rediscoverers it, finds command that he never had, right? He was the guy who would walk guys along with all the strikeouts all of a sudden. He is at his best right now, 38 years old. Yeah, and I think T.C., the biggest thing and the biggest reason why he was able to come back and regain his role as a closer is because he regained the strike zone. And something with that, when he talked to Bailey and something that they looked at and some of his cues and some of his strike one throwing abilities have, those percentages have skyrocketed since he's been with Bailey here and with the red socks.

26:52So, to me, as a closer, if you can't go out there and command the strike zone, if you can't go out there and throw strike one and get, we talk about this all the time, get the first guy of every inning, that's what he's been able to do. And that's what's made him so successful here in his red socks tenure. And so, those little changes and those little tweaks with him have made all the difference in the world. Guys get, I'm always fascinated by closers because they get there in many different ways, right? Dennis, Hull of Fame, one of the great close all time. He was a starter for the first half of his career, right? Danny became a closer. Other guys will struggle and find that adrenaline, they become a different guy. You came up as a starter, but then quickly adjusted to the role. He came in as a closer, throw in 105 miles an hour and 16 years later, he's a closer, throw in 101 miles. That very few have done anything like that. Yeah, you don't see that. Even, uh, Kinley Jansen, who's up on that list as well. That's right. So, um, for him to be able to do this right out of the gate and be able to pitch for this long, really shows his ability to study hitters.

27:57Like, you know, a lot of people think that, you know, Latin players don't study hitters, but they have, they have, um, translators that help them get into the lab and get in there and say, hey, look, this is what you're doing on strike one against guys. And if you fall behind, your, your percentages go way down. So, um, and him to be able to make mechanical adjustments at this point in his career, to me says a lot on his ability to, um, have body control, right? And when you control your body and you're out there and you're repeating your delivery night in and night out, that's how you can make adjustments on the fly. And I've seen him this year make adjustments from at bat to at bat and even pitch to pitch. So he still has that ability to do that. So, could those to him three saves over the weekend and four game set. You're in September. You're on a team that matters. At this point in a season, you want to championship here in Boston. When, when you're in September, you get a lot of mileage on you for the year. How much does the fact that, you know, like the dog days are behind you now, you're staring down and this is the sprint. How much more adrenaline, more energy do you pull out of the playoff race?

29:03Well, you, you pull a ton of energy TC, but here's the thing is as a closer adrenaline always was my worst case scenario, right? When you go out there and you have too much adrenaline, start to overthrow a little bit. And I've seen him do that. I've seen him overthrow at time. So, you know, I think the last time he was in playoffs was about three years ago. And so for him, he's going to have to pull from those memories and say, Hey, I need to really stay focused and honed in on my delivery. Stay underneath my feet, stay within my legs and let my delivery just stay informed so that when I deliver that ball, I'm not overthrown. And you almost dumb it down a little bit for playoffs. That's what I would do. I would dumb it down and say, Hey, you know, this is just another game. I'm just going to have to go out there and repeat my delivery. And so for me, I think he's going to have to do some of the same things. See a hall of hammer now 100% 100% right now. Yeah, he's a hall of hammer. I just know how hard it is to get to that 400 mark. And, you know, something that I chased my whole career. And I fortunately for me, I wasn't able to do that.

30:07I still had a healthy career, but for him to be able to get there. And like I said, to lose the role and come back is even more special to me. Yeah, no doubt about it. He's done things very few have ever done. All right, roll the shipment 400 and counting as they came into town here to face the angels. We will continue. But first to break, it's 3 10 to left, presented by your new England Ford dealers in F series, America's best selling truck for 49 years and the official truck of the Boston Red Sox. Welcome back 3 10 to left, presented by your new England Ford dealers with the angels in town. It's the perfect time to be looking back at the 40th anniversary of the 1986 Red Sox season. Sob Boston win the pennant knocking off California in one of the greatest comeback series ever. Yes, they were the California angels. Angels were within one strike of going to the world series for the first time. But Dave Henderson took Donnie Moore deep part of a four run 9th inning the Red Sox winning that game in 11 innings winning the next two in Boston.

31:09And then ultimately heading to that showdown against the meds in the world series New York winning a seven game classic Marty Barrett was the MVP of the ALCS that year and hit even better in the world series. He joined me to talk about his memories of that incredible October. And we're joined by Marty Barrett MVP of the ALCS that year probably would have been MVP of the world series and things not ended quite the way that it Marty how you doing. I'm doing great Tom. Thanks for having me on. Thanks coming on. It does it feel like 40 years. I mean it does. You know how long or or someday it feels like 40 years and some days it feels like yesterday. How often do you find yourself thinking back about that series? So mentally it doesn't feel like 40 years, but physically. Yeah, I'm old now and it feels like 40 years. That was you know that was such a magical ride right we talk about what this year's Red Sox team has been light but that year was special for all of us in New England. It was such an exciting time and you know baseball tends to get stuck on how it ended. We know how it ended. We know what happened at the end of game six and we know what happened in the world series.

32:18But don't ever forget that ALCS was one of the great series ever played. You know the the the home run tied it up keeping it going. When you think back to that American League championship series against the angels, what do you remember most? Dave Hinder Hindus home run was the thing I remember the most. I don't remember much. You know I had the video out the other day looking at game six and seven and I didn't remember much of it. But I knew we came back and just slayed him at Fenway and after a win like that emotional win like that in their ballpark. It was just it just snowballed but the most that's what I remember most was Hindus home run. It had been 11 years right 1975 had been the last time the Red Sox had been to the post season at all. You know you're coming up with this club obviously years before and now that season comes together. You remember the excitement around Boston as you guys got closer to that post season. I do I do it was it was electric and I remember Bill Buckner the last month carrying us.

33:24He hit a lot of home runs that last month a lot of RB eyes and you know we just he took us on his back and and pretty much got us there. Got us through that month because Toronto was getting close to us. But I remember it was exciting and you know it was easy to play. It was easy to play because you come to the ballpark and it was electric and you just felt the energy and you weren't tired. Nothing you were ready to go. You were a guy who as a player you know you took a lot of pride in doing a lot of the little things you can do to help a team win right you had some big boppers behind you. I think that was the first of three consecutive years you led the American League in sacrifice hits right talk a little about the culture of that team kind of everybody doing their role and doing what they can to help a team get better. Yeah it was a great offensive team and some great starting pitching and some good relieving to but like you said I always my mentality was they're not thinking about Marty Bereth they're worried about bogs blocker baler rice Evans Tony armist all those guys so just mentally I felt like they're not paying too much attention to me.

34:32So make them pay for it the best you can but you know there was a lot of guys had great years Jimmy Rice had had a great year I mean there was just so many guys having career years oil can add a good year. It was a magical year it's just a lot of fun and you know I remember doing the playoff shares and saying the grounds crew needs a payoff playoff share those things like that just just stick in my mind they were just a lot of fun. Yeah like I said you won the ALCS MVP hit 367 in that series even better in the play in the World Series ready hit 433 do I remember this wrong was there at one point was there a graphic somewhere that flashed up that said you had won the MVP award for the World Series or is that just a legend. No I think that was I think I believe well I believe that it said that Bruce Hurst. Oh yeah. He was Hurst won the MVP and which he could have to you know he pitch great and everything but I would have definitely been right in there in the mention I did that for the ALCS and to get 24 hits in the post season when there was only two levels I was loving it because at the time I was told that

35:46Thurman Munson who was I was a big fan of Thurman Munson he had the record for all those years and it was only 19 yet so I was in a tree a bubble whatever the matter of fact that's how I got my nickname from that those playoffs and all my teammates from that point were not called me bubble and they still address me as bubble today. Well don't ever let that bubble burst that's for sure. You know by me we talk about it right the red socks or we've seen some tough endings to to some of their playoffs how tough was it to put that away to you know you guys that baseball players are so good at being able to move on but when that World Series was over how difficult was it to put away. It was tough and as you know is Tom games like that happen all the time all all across the league during the season those things happen teams rally with nobody out you know the other day I want to say that I was congratulating Roger and his son because you know they were down three nothing with two outs and they got three guys on and his son hit a grand slam I mean those things just happened and

36:55it was just so magnified I felt horrible for for Bill Buckner and just the way it all happened and it was it was bitter sweet we still had a great year it was phenomenal is a great ride and I guess the one thing really great about it because the way it ended it's one of the only World Series of a few maybe three or four that people even remember like if I said who won the World Series and 80s the 96 or 98 you I don't know but 86 you know you know everybody here knows that's for sure they've won four since when that you know I know when they won that first one in 2004 they made a point of making sure they felt like they were sharing it with the alumni group right I want to ask you sort of finally how nice has it seen as it been to see the championships that they have been able to win now in Boston it's been it's been so nice that first team in in 2004 took the monkey off our back their back everyone's back and that's what hurts

37:59so much in 86 we knew the fans lifelong fans guys that were 70 80 90 years old lifelong fans didn't see us win it but to now all of a sudden to say now that in the in this century with one four and more than the Yankees I think so it's a good thing and the fans are great we I mean it's just great playing there and they had some great team great players the Dustin Pajoria era was was pretty amazing too and they deserve that though the fans deserve it and what's happened this year is is nothing short of a miracle and I hope I hope they it keeps going yeah I hope this team is known as bubble down the road right that's it I think all right Marty it's great to catch up thanks for joining us and continue to success I appreciate thanks to Red Sox Hall of Famer Marty Barrett with us here we'll take a break come back after this three ten to left is presented by your new England four dealers who've been taking everyone out to the ball game at Fenway Park for

39:04decade catch Ford next time you're at Fenway including in the Ford Clubhouse a full service bar perfect for bringing your line of together and for recording our live edition of 3 10 to left it's all brought to you by your new England four dealers and F Series America's best selling trucks for 48 years and the official truck of the Boston Red Sox welcome back 3 10 to left presented by your new England four dealers join now by Jocke Stigley on the hot Red Sox Hall of Fam and baseball Hall of Fam play by play announcer for so many years and Joe the sad news over the weekend the passing of Joe Morgan such a an iconic figure in red socks history and a very close friend of yours first of all our condolences I know this is a difficult time what did Joe Morgan mean to you while Joe is one of my best friends in life it's certainly my best friend and baseball and just a wonderful guy we had so much fun together and he was just authentic there was only one Joe Morgan when they threw the mold away we know there was all

40:11a family name Joe Morgan and he had a lot of fun with the names and signing his baseball cards and that type of thing. But Joe was just a unique individual most honest and straightforward guy I think I've ever known. You know Dan Chonise said he was one of one and he was one of us and I think that's why he resonated with with any fan of the red socks back in the 80s because he was Walpole Joe right he was the Red Sox fan who grew up and got to live out all of our dream of being manager of the red and drove a truck on the turnpike a snow plow and the work is a carpenter and a bricklayer and a substitute teacher he had to do it all because he was making very little money when he had a ticket and had to take it all card down 28 miles from Walpole to McCoy Stadium with holes in the floor the car things like that but he finally got the job in the big leagues in 85 as a coach with John McNamara and then took over in 88 and to me

41:15the most exciting time other than the four world championships was Morgan Magic 21 12 in a row in 19 out of 20 after taking over mid season in 1988 and that story has has become relevant again right because Chad Tracy and a remandor like Joe Morgan has come in here and turned this season around but but this time it didn't happen automatically that happened almost immediately upon Joe's arrival. It is and it was a record to have one 12 in a row I know we robbed Thompson a couple years ago with the Phillies got to within 11 Joe said well I hope he stops at 11 or he gets 13 I don't want to be tied with him so he was very gracious and generous in that regard but it was amazing and there's certainly many parallels to this season and Morgan said he didn't like the interim term he said to the media interim sir is not in my vocabulary and a 12 game start win streak took care of that pretty quickly.

42:17Chad Tracy was telling us a story today we were asking him what he knew about Joe and he said at a Wu Sox game at Polo Park once his father the former manager Jim Tracy got to spend the game with Joe Morgan up in the box watching it he said that afterwards Jim Tracy told his son Chad that that they talked for the entire nine innings and anyone who's ever around Joe after he retired knows that Joe could talk baseball with the best of them. I'm sure he heard some great stories in fact that I talked to Joe just the last week saw him a couple of weeks ago we talked on the phone maybe twice a week and we go on the baseball reference website and I quiz him on things recently I found his match ups hit her again. Different pictures. He could tell me what he did against each picture how they got him out or how he got based hits and the first guy on the list was early win a hall of famous Joe had four hits and heads against him didn't have too many hats in the big leagues but they were all chronicle there and he could recite pretty much what he did against each of them.

43:25I've got to bring it up because every time I spent a significant amount of time talking with Joe we would always get to hockey love hockey was a great hockey player himself and I don't think most people know that. He was an all-American at Boston College and of course a great player at Wall Paul high school and Joe often said that I was an average baseball player but I was a great hockey player and you can go to county for him and see it's all American and. BC Hall of Fame plaque hanging there and he certainly proved it if it been in Canada's Joe said many times if he grown up there he probably would have played in the NHL even in the days of the original sticks. Alright so again you brought up the snow plow the truck right that was part of the legend wall pole Joe driving the snow plow when did he stop all the side gigs when was he fine was it after that interim tag was removed. Yes I think he stopped before the two years before when he became a big league scout but he would love to drive that snow plow and he often stopped at the toe boost and look for money that he found on the ground.

44:31What time he found a hundred dollar bill he was told in half and he brought it to a government agency and they told well if it's more than half you got the hundred bucks if it's less than half it was right on the edge when he collected the hundred dollars and he really had a lot of fun doing that. I have also got to ask you again those of us who have been around long enough to remember that the signature phrase six to an even did you ever get to the bottom of what he meant by that. We asked him many times and he said pretty much it can mean whatever you want to mean some thought of as a racetrack term I think Joe did I know was used my hungry bull guarded a movie and there was also what some thought that it was out of the trashy comic book. But Joe loved that saying and generally when he said it he means that everything is cool everything is going smoothly so it was a great way also not to answer media questions he didn't want to answer.

45:31That's right he could end the new interview quickly like that that's exactly right I'll just ask you Joe you were as you said outside of those four championships that Morgan magic run was so special what do you remember most about that era. Well just a different hero every day and Joe always said he was so fortunate that Roger Clemen started the first game remember the first game when he took over was rained out so Roger at an extra day rest and he dominated the first game and then Kevin roll mine he just first major league home run a walk off of Kansas City Steve far to win the second game and then in the fourth game a marathon against the minister so to twins Todd Benzinger with the red sucks behind him. The 10th inning at three run home around the pesky poll those were the highlights there and I remember the end of it too because we were in Texas and somebody at a live drive I believe was Benzinger again and see Celeste we made a diving catch with a game on the line and saved it the 12 game win streak was over.

46:33But after that game we went to the Joe's the hotel suite in the Arlington Texas in order to dominate was pizza it was delivered my son Tom was with me and Joe in his own inimitable style said as we near the end of the pizza he said the time he said there is kid always that last piece jump on it with both hands. And Tom when he was in the bullpen in 1986 he was coaching first base there was some. Nanagan's going out of the bullpen maybe not the most disciplined the bullpen so Mac the Marys and Joe ought to be the bullpen coach and he gets out there in the fourth inning a pizza is delivered and the Joe said of the security got a there what's this he said when they get pizza every night. And so Joe gathered all the bullpen guys around him and he said the here's this pizza you better enjoy it now jump on it with both hands because it's a last one you're going to get in this book as long as I'm out of your coaching that was the end of the pizza deliveries in the bullpen I'll ask you finally Joe just how should people remember Joe Morgan what would you like to share about his life.

47:43Well I think they should remember him as a warm and generous guy certainly very honest very authentic there was nobody like Joe that I've ever known I mean he could spin a phrase sometimes he sounded like he was reading a sports page you know I'm the manager of this line. But I think his his genuine qualities is genuineness and his honesty one great story I recall we're play the white socks in 1988 the Red Sox are but tuning catch. And the white socks had a starting pitcher named Sean hillie and we did the pre game show and after the show I said Joe why is. So Ron starting instead of Gedman against Heligus and Joseph because hillie is a left they said no he's not he's a right hander and he confused them with Paul kill us another pitcher so I'm on the air I don't say anything and then Serone it's a three run homer to win the game.

48:48And after the game ends the video comes in said Joe is that one of your hunches did you really think that the Serone would hit this right hand pitcher so well and just said no I just messed up I thought the guy was a left hand pitcher and that's why Serone played I apologize to getty but you know he couldn't tell the lie could take credit for it instead he told the truth I just so much about him Joe we so much appreciate the visit I know what he meant to you I know this is a difficult time and again our condolences and thank you. Thank you for sharing stories of his life. Well thank you for letting me express by feelings and we certainly mourn his loss but many smiles when you think of the great stories and the wonderful personality was Joseph Michael Morgan. He will always be remembered Joe Morgan lost too soon at the age of 95 thank you Joe Castiglione we will say goodbye now that wraps it up three tend to left presented by New England four dealers and have serious America's best selling truck. For 49 years in the official truck of the Boston Red Sox we'll see you again next time.