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But the officers have thrown it out the door with their behaviour this week. They should be ashamed
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of themselves. They shouldn't absolutely look at themselves in the mirror
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and wonder what the f*** they've been doing.
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They're f***ing hissing at us and calling us cheats in the Lord's Long Room.
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And they have the f***ing goal to say, talk to us about the spirit of cricket.
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Absolute f***ing bullshit.
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There's a big appeal that's hitting on the panties out.
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Lions gone, you South Wales are knocked down.
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On to Sydney Road and hit a car.
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Oh, I think it's hit a car.
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What a way to bring up your f***ing.
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All you want is to leave it all behind.
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Now there is a simple remedy.
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Just a fit for all eternity.
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Oh, hello everybody and welcome back to Cricket Unfiltered.
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I am Menace and I'm here to finish the episode. I started on Monday,
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but it came to a jarring halt when me and Stuart McGeele came to blows.
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Not literally, almost literally.
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I did think as he was leaving, we might come to blows.
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But yeah, I'm going to talk about that,
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but I actually do have some cricket stuff I want to get on to.
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I'm going to finish my point about us touring South Africa in 2026.
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No, Stuart, I'm not moving on.
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As I said, it's my show.
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All you did was draw more attention to something
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that was only just a minor little thing in some points I wanted to bring up.
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But let's get into what happened.
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I just said, you know what, I can't f***ing do this.
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And then he goes off some more yells at me, calls me to say word,
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storms out the door.
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And I just said, I'm just going to release the episode.
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I'm going to sit on this.
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Apart from the fact that he was yelling at me
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to that I had to release the episode,
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which you would think the way he carried on.
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He'd be begging me not to release it.
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And then he was saying I should bleep out Sunny Bill Williams name
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because, oh, no one can hear the ex footballer's name.
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What an absolute muppet he is.
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So he leaves, I release it.
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And look, I was fine.
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I don't mind being called those things.
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I'm no shrinking violet.
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Anyone that's listened to this show knows.
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So don't want to to, you know, people were checking in with me
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about my mental health, etc.
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One thing about that though that I didn't like is it's the bullying.
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It's his attempt to bully me or bully anyone
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because that is not good to listen to.
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It's not good to watch.
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It doesn't say a good example.
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So I find that stuff quite onerous.
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I don't mind arguing with someone.
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And on the show, I did try and take on board his point of view.
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But, you know, he wasn't having any of it.
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And he had this meltdown that was immature.
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And it was bullying.
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It wasn't fun to listen to.
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He has shown those signs before in previous episodes.
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You know, when he feels like he can't keep up
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because, you know, it comes in half cut or whatever,
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then instead of trying to engage,
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he just bullies or demeans.
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It's a very cheap, very cheap form of content.
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And personally, the listeners don't like it.
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I've had so many people reach out to me saying,
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ditch him from the show.
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I would say at the moment it's 90% of people are saying,
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ditch him 10% of people are saying, keep him on.
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I decided not to make any big decisions after the fact.
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But what was very worrying for me was he has shown very,
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basically zero remorse for what he did.
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There's been no, even hint of an apology towards to me
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for the way he acted.
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There's been no regret.
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I mean, so that is worrying for me because I just feel,
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you know, he's just a ticking time bomb.
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I mean, I can bring him back in the podcast.
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But I guarantee, you know, I'm not going to sit on my hands anymore.
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So when you come back in, I'm telling you,
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there's a car boat, a car boot full of stuff
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that I can bring up if you want to keep calling me words.
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So I'd be very careful about that because, you know,
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things actually could kick off if he doesn't watch it.
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Because, you know, it's not going to be one way traffic forever.
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Anybody listen to the show for the last month notes.
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I've handled him very gently, you know,
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when he doesn't know something.
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When he's off the pace, I just move on.
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I'm very nice to him.
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But the way he treated me, that means he's going to get some of it back now.
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So I don't know if the podcast is able to continue in that light.
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I don't want to be fighting with someone.
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I don't want to get punched in the face.
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And let's be honest, that meltdown was unhinged and insane.
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And he did, like, shape the, you know,
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he started twitching like he was going to punch me.
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Admittedly, when he left, he got in my face.
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So the point is, we're at an interesting point in the podcast.
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I'm not sure exactly what's going to happen.
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One thing I will say is, I went into this with my eyes open
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because I'm telling you, I went into this relationship with Open Eyes,
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Open, you know, we could record a podcast together.
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I don't want to be great mates with him.
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I'm here to do a show with him.
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So, you know, I wasn't going to get involved in the other stuff.
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I'm not going to go to the pub with him after the podcast.
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So I just thought would be able to maybe get through
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and record a podcast together.
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But it doesn't seem he's got the mental,
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I mean, he's been through a lot.
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He's been through stuff of his own making.
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But there's no doubt it's been very traumatic.
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And I think it's left a big scar on him.
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And, you know, I do feel sorry for him
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because he's a broken man.
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I think he needs help.
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And that sort of behavior is just not on.
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People will not like banter on the podcast.
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I can take a bit of back and forth.
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But bullying, threatening, violence, that's just too far.
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And how can I keep putting out a podcast
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where those are the themes?
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And every time I bring up something he doesn't like,
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he just tells me to move on or he's going to punch me.
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I mean, that's not terrible for a relationship moving forward.
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On that, though, we have commitments to dream 11
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to do a show together twice a week for the next year.
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So I need a new cricket art to replace you.
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Until then, I might just have to get through
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with stew on those dream 11 shows, maybe a high security.
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But I'm a little bit of a quandary.
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So if you know any former cricketers
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that want to make some money,
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want to join me on a show,
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please put them in touch with me
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because, you know, I have a contract to fulfill
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which I am going to fulfill.
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I'm not going to let this moron drag me down.
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So we are scheduled to go live tomorrow night, me and stew.
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As I said, I'm not going to be holding back anymore.
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I've been really nice to him.
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But the gloves are off.
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Gloves are off with stew.
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I don't think you'll be able to take it.
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That's my overriding feeling.
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If you can't take a little back and forth on a podcast
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then when I'm being gentle,
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he's not going to be able to take it anymore.
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But dream 11 shows alive.
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They're not recorded.
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Tomorrow night at 7 p.m.
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Who knows what's going to happen?
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It could be the last show we do together.
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But at this stage, I would say you can say
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if he says stew will not be back on the cricket unfiltered podcast.
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I'm not going to have him on for the podcast recordings
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because I don't really enjoy it.
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He's knowing a little bit about cricket
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and having some experiences with that great team
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doesn't make up for all the other stuff.
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And people who listen to the show will know.
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There's a lot of holes in his knowledge.
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He's ill-prepared sometimes.
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So now, before I get on, I've got cricket news to talk about.
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I mean, that's the real shame of Monday.
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Didn't get to talk about Chris Tremaine's career.
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Didn't get to talk about the Bangladesh test,
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But then I was a little bit rattled,
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so I actually couldn't get through it.
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And I thought, you know what?
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I'm just not moving on after that.
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It's going to be a dickhead.
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But I wanted to stick with where I was,
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talking about the South African tour.
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So the reason I brought up the stuff in 2018
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was not for no reason at all.
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Because there is a live issue at the moment.
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Australia is set to tour South Africa in 2026.
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And I think cricket Australia,
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bearing in mind what happened in 2018
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to families and wives and players.
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In 2026, cricket Australia has a duty of care
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to look after our team and protect them as much as possible
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from that sort of abuse.
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The Australian cricket attempt should not have to suffer
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And people are going to be saying,
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oh, how can they do that?
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I see it happened here all summer.
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If an opposing cricketer is in the field
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and they get abused by someone from over the fence,
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all they have to do is point that person out to security
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and they get taken out.
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And I think cricket Australia has a duty of care
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with cricket South Africa to make sure
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cricket South Africa and cricket Australia
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on the same page and make sure
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that they protect the Australian cricketers appropriately.
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I know you can't completely shield them
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from stuff that fans are going to give them,
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but you can do a lot better than they did on 2018.
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And that's why I brought this stuff up.
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So you got fixated on some dumb little point.
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So I'm saying in 2026,
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we have to do better for our Australian cricket team,
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especially Steve Smith,
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who's been through enough since Sam Papergate.
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We need to protect them.
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It is a live issue.
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It is an important topic.
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And I think cricket Australia needs to heed
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what happened in 2018
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and seek assurances from cricket
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and South Africa that they will protect the Australian cricket team
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as much as possible.
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And I outlined it before in Australia.
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If someone is abusive to a player from an opposition,
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literally they're pointed out by the player
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and they're gone, absolutely out the door.
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So cricket Australian needs to give the cricket South Africa
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needs to give those same assurances to cricket Australia.
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That's the first thing.
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Second thing is I also think that when Sam Papergate is revisited,
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which it will be, because already,
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like Amazon Prime tweeted out a whole highlights video
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of Sam Papergate as soon as the tour was announced.
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So everybody is going to be talking about it.
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Despite the fact people won't want to revisit it,
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And where I was going before I was rudely interrupted.
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No, Julie, I'm not moving on.
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I'm going to finish this point.
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Was that I think we need to look at Sam Papergate
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and David Warner's actions with a lot more empathy
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and put it in the context of the mental strain he was under
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And if I'd been subjected to the abuse he had,
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I might want to do anything to win as well.
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Now, I'm not trying to say Sam Papergate wasn't wrong.
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Obviously, they went too far,
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but I just think from an empathetic point of view,
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the Australian public needs to take into account
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what was going on around Warner at the time
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and how we might feel if we were subjected to that abuse.
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Now, McGill wouldn't let me get to that point.
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And the thing is McGill's blow up.
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There's nothing about sympathy for the Warner's or Candice.
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It was all about his stuff.
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It was all about the fact that he's been in the spotlight.
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He was married to a famous actor here, Rachel Friend.
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He's had his criminal convictions all over the papers.
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And he's all about his stuff.
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Because if there's empathy, you don't amplify
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that minor thing that I brought up.
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I didn't want to go into a deep dive about that,
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but it's important when we look at 2026's to a
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that the same mistakes do not happen again.
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And that's the thing about steering.
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You'll say, oh, you know, I was trying to stick up
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for someone bullshit you were.
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This is because you are sensitive about your personal life,
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which is documented on the front and back pages of the paper
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for numerous incidents off the field,
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but you just, that's all.
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That's it just struck a nerve in you.
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Nothing to do with protecting Warner or protecting Candice.
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If you wanted to do that,
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you could have just moved on from the point.
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And let me talk about what I wanted to talk about,
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which is the 2026 tour and the issues around that.
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So yeah, so anyway, got finally got that out
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because I think it is important.
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And that's why I wanted to bring up what happened in 2018.
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So yeah, so that's where we are with the podcast.
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And also, Stewie, you're a hypocrite.
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You're a big hypocrite because I've got to say,
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when I'm doing cricket, I'm filtered.
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I rarely, if ever, resort to personal insults.
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I don't think I do.
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Whereas you with George Bailey,
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you call him dishonest.
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You say, oh, if, you know, how can you trust a guy that smiles?
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I might criticize some of Bailey's selections,
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but you're going after his character.
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So don't get on your high horse, you muppet
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and pretend like you're some moral savior.
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You know, when it suits you, you will go low.
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So it was, it was going to take that shit from him.
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And yeah, that's how I feel about it.
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So I wanted to get that out there.
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And now you've heard me finally finish what I wanted to talk about.
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Now, let's get into the rest of the news
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from the podcast from Monday.
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Australia have locked in two tests against Bangladesh up north.
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And that macaque will be the first macaque will host a test
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for the first every time later this year.
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And Darwin will host the test.
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So big opportunity for Jake Weatheralls,
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who was part of the test side.
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He was brought up in Darwin.
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So the real great opportunity to go back there is a test cricket.
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So hopefully if you can score some runs in the shield,
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we'll see a home grown play in Darwin.
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So that first test is August 13th to 17th.
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The second test is August 22nd to 26th.
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Man of the series for the last time,
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Bangladesh to it here was in 2003.
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And the man who normally sits opposite me,
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Stuart McGill was the player of the series, unbelievable.
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We didn't even get to talk about that.
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There was some issues floating around social media about,
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does Australia treat Bangladesh like second class citizens?
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And I guess the thing, and that was around the Bangladesh playing on venues
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like Darwin and macaque and not being at the MCG, the SCG,
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the main test venues.
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And the one thing that maybe listeners or viewers from overseas don't understand
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is that once cricket season is over,
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in fact, not even once cricket season is over,
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just when the weather starts to turn,
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AFL gets all the grounds back.
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So they all become all the major grounds,
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all the test grounds become AFL grounds.
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Even if Australia wanted to play Bangladesh at the SCG or the MCG,
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they literally do not have access out of cricket season.
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So for Australia to fit all these two as in,
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that's why we have to play them up north,
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where the climate's good and we just don't have access to the AFL grounds.
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Yeah, unfortunately, that's just the way it is.
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It's commercially driven.
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Right, two other bits of news.
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Since the last podcast,
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it has been revealed that Mitchell Stark was approached by the selectors
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to reverse his retirement and play in the T-20 World Cup.
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These approaches were unofficial,
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I think is the term that was reported.
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And Stark was felt, you know,
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he was approached about whether he was considering it.
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This was after Cummins and Hazelwood got injured.
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And you can see why they would do that.
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Because you would be mad not to go to Stark and say,
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hey, can you help us out here?
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But I appreciate Stark saying no, he's not reversing that.
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Because he'd gone straight from the test into the big batch,
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into the big batch finals.
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So he was probably cooked anyway,
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but it just shows how desperate Australia was
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to revamp their attack going into this T-20 World Cup.
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And the selectors obviously felt they were a bit short
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in the pace bowling department.
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All right, sticking locally with two bits of news,
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Trevor Bayless is gone as Sydney Thunder coach
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after five years of service for the Thunder is gone.
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He made the finals last season,
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but then this year the only one, two games.
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So the time was right for him to move on.
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And I just wonder whether the Thunder
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would consider hiring Greg Shippard from the sixes.
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I mean, he's such a great track record
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of making the finals.
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If I'm the Thunder, I would be desperate
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to have that track record of making the finals.
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So could that be a little bit awkward
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around cricket and New South Wales
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that after Legion Monor's sacked Shippard
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from the sixes and New South Wales, Trent Copeland
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and the Thunder are trying to make high him
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as coach of the Thunder.
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I think it's something the Thunder should consider.
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Shippard is an asset.
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He's been a successful coach
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and surely his knowledge of New South Wales cricket would help.
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Even if he's not the full time
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New South Wales coach anymore,
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just making him put the Thunder coach
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you'll come in with a huge base of knowledge.
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The real issue is, I guess Shippard's still based in Melbourne
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So maybe that would stop them appointing him.
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So then another New South Wales fast boulder
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has announced his retirement.
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So Chris Tremaine has announced he has retired
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from first class cricket.
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And he had basically a virus in his shoulder.
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I commentated with him in the shield last year
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and he rammed me through it.
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But basically a virus attached itself
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to his shoulder and was affecting the nerves.
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And when he saw a doctor, the doctor said,
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look, that's gonna be three years to get better
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and it's turned out to be true.
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And therefore he's had to end his first class career.
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And he ends 17th, I think,
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on the all-time Sheffield Shield wicket takers
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took over 351st class wickets
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and an average in the low 20s.
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So a real start definitely would have played some test cricket
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had he not got this injury.
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I really think if you look at the last couple of years
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and some of the bowlers that have been given a chance
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that with Tremaine's record,
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he would have played at some stage
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during the last couple of years.
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So he's retired prematurely.
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But yeah, great career.
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I think one four Sheffield Shield
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to Big Batch one day cups, a serial winner.
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And he was part of the test squad in 2017-2018
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for that Ashes, but never actually got to play a test match
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that did play for one day internationals.
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All right, well, that's it for really the rest
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of the cricket news.
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Crash made a good point about Robert Cratic made a good point
19:49
about whether Australia should consider bringing back
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the cricket academy with this huge generational change
19:55
happening now in Australian cricket,
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whether they need to bring back some kind of academy.
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It's an interesting point.
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I do think there has to be some value
20:06
in getting the most talented or the players
20:09
have shown the most together at a young age
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with the brain's trust of Australian cricket.
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And you think about that great generation of cricketers
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that spent so much time in the formative years
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with Rod Marsh, the cricket academy,
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how well that did for them.
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So I think with this generational change happening,
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even if maybe it's not a full time academy,
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maybe they just open an academy for a couple of years
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while they're going through this period.
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But I think it's certainly something to consider.
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That was my cart let it go for this week.
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All right, well, really that's it
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for this episode of Cricket Unfiltered.
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I have gone through all the cricket news.
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As I said, so the latest update is just to reiterate,
20:50
hard to see how you and I continue doing
20:53
the Cricket Unfiltered podcast together.
20:56
We might muddle through and try and make this dream 11 show work,
21:02
but as you can imagine for me,
21:04
it's very difficult to go into a session with you after that
21:09
because I really do think one day he's going to snap
21:12
and that's a real concern for me
21:15
because I've been really nice to him.
21:17
I've just taken all his abuse.
21:18
But I mean, there is a so much stuff on his resume
21:25
that he doesn't want brought up.
21:26
And yeah, I just think this, the podcast can't work
21:29
if it's just one way.
21:31
And you know, someone's just going to do this the whole time.
21:36
Then what sort of show is it, especially not Cricket Unfiltered,
21:39
which when we talk about everything,
21:41
we don't shy away from difficult topics.
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Stuart McGill, what a meltdown.
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against Los Angeles Golf Club, then Rory's Boston Common Golf
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and Tigers Jupiter links face-off in their playoff debuts.
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Keep up its playoffs.
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Tune in Tuesday, March 17th at 6.30 p.m. and 9.00 p.m. only
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on ESPN and the ESPN app.