Pre-1945 German/Islam Relations w/ Thomas777 - Complete

0:00Hey, it's Kelly Rowland. You may not know this, but I have Exema. So I get how it can steal your time. But why let Exema take over when you can talk to your doctor about Epglyce? Epglyce, lubricism app LBKZ, a 250-mg per 2-mg leador injection, is a prescription medicine used to treat adults and children 12 years of age and older, who weigh at least 88 pounds or 40 kg with moderate to severe Exema. Also called a topic dermatitis that is not well controlled with prescription therapies used on the skin or topicals or who cannot use topical therapies. Epglyce can be used with or without topical corticosteroids. Don't use if you are allergic to Epglyce. A allergic reaction can occur that can be severe. Eye problems can occur. Tell your doctor if you have newer, worsening eye problems. You should not receive a live vaccine when treated with Epglyce. Before starting Epglyce, tell your doctor if you have a parasitic infection. Paid partnership with Lili Respect your time. Ask your doctor about Epglyce and visit Epglyce.com or call 1-800-LiliRX or 1-800-545-5 It's fall in Jeep country and during the drive into fall sales event, get a great deal

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2:05Don't use if you are allergic to Epglyce. A allergic reactions can occur that can be severe. Eye problems can occur. Tell your doctor if you have newer, worsening eye problems. You should not receive a live vaccine when treated with Epglyce. Before starting Epglyce, tell your doctor if you have a parasitic infection. Paid partnership with Lily. Respect your time. Ask your doctor about Epglyce and visit Epglyce.com or call 1-800-LilyRX or 1-800-545-5979. I want to welcome everyone back to the Pekinjane show. I'm here with Thomas and building off of the episode that we, the deviation episode from the 30-year-old war. In the same subject matter, Thomas is going to jump in. So take it away, Thomas. I wanted to talk about the relationship of the Third Reich to the Islamic world, specifically Palestine.

3:08And Palestine was absolutely affiliated with the Axis powers in direct capacities. And there was very good offices between the Fierre and the Grand Mofty, Al Husseini. Who despite what propaganda and man-shade history suggests, he came from a lineage that very much had a claim to the man with leadership in Palestine. And from a very proud lineage that was and remains very respected among Palestinians across the sectarian divide, Christian and Muslim. In order to understand that relationship, though, it's important to deal with the relations between the German and the Islamic world generally. Early on, the Third Reich viewed the Islamic world not in reductionist terms, but as very

4:12much a political force that had momentum in the historical process. But that also was an important ally to be cultivated in the war against bullshadism and jury as they viewed it. And this wasn't just pragmatic. There was a basic affinity there with some qualifications. And this is important. And it's impossible to talk about this with people in an irrational manner because they just go berserk if you mention Islam. They've been that brainwashed. Some of these people are just incredibly stupid. But the majority continues to take their cues from legacy media and from regime ideologies. The only thing comparable to it is people who utterly berserk if I attack the President.

5:12I don't know what they think the President is doing for them lately or why they think he's an incredible person. But I'm not here to make friends or trying to convert stupid people to make them intelligently reasonable. It's just one of the reasons I disdain social media is because it's impossible to have serious conversations there because aside from the paid agitators and disruptors, there's just this whole pinnacle of idiots. You think it's like a video game or something and they've decided they've convinced themselves they have some take on everything. And even though they spend their days like exclusively in their own house or Walmart, they've decided they have some take on Islam when they have no understanding of what's the way. So not just I mean don't get me wrong. I'm very blessed. Anybody who spends time with capital T traditionalists, authors, you know, Mercier Eliyati,

6:18René Gannon particularly because I mean obviously he was a Sufi Muslim. Julius Evela, the all-round extensive way on Dar al-Islam and Muhammad and his role in the historical process and things like that. And obviously I've got a fair amount of Muslim comrades on the ground. Well she and Sunni, you know, her both good friends and reliable partisans but who I can seek out to discuss comparative theology with and things. So I'm not suggesting I'm isolated in that regard. It just, it reaffirms why I am a vanguardist because most people are built for this in all kinds of ways. And they don't even have their own prejudices. Their prejudices are Jewish prejudices or they're ones that you know they glean from the legacy media apparatus or about fucking around on the internet with people who are

7:19probably paid agitators or like random guys in India or something just saying things. It's like a staggering degree of ignorance. But anyway, I'll stop ranting at the subs. The general disposition of the Reich towards Islam, the Islamic world. Like I said, they viewed it as a global force that was playing an essential role in the unfolding historical process. They also predicted that although there wasn't going to be the imminent emergence of a new caliphate to replace the seat of Darul Islam that obviously was evicted by the collapse of the Ottomans and to be clear, the Kaiser Reich and the Ottoman Empire were very close allies. So the Germans had particularly the German-Akidim which had a very strong orianos bent and the

8:29foreign service, many of whom remained into the Third Reich. They had a fairly highly developed understanding of Islam and of the several cultures that constituted it. Obviously, it's the war went on. The non-European territories that were directly occupied by the Vermocht were largely Islamic countries. And Syriyabo, which is the seat of the European Islam, was occupied by the Reich. So that's important. All these variables were intertwined. And as I've written about in my manuscript and I believe I've discussed here with Pete previously, the mass occurs, or the annihilation therapy that was perpetuated against minority

9:39elements in the nascent Turkish state. The world came to know about that. Owing to a Max von Schuvener Richter who was deployed there and he alerted both the Red Cross and the Berlin Foreign Office. And he was told in certain terms to stop agitating for some sort of localized intervention or relief for these people because relations with Ankara are very important, especially in these times of uncertainty. And I make the point that, well, in my Schuvener Richter, he fell at the Munich Pooch in November, 2023. And Hitler went on record as saying that he was the one, he said the party never recovered

10:42from the death of Schuvener Richter. He was an essential personage to the National Socialist Party and the revolution. And so I make the point in my manuscript. So if from inception, the NSDP was this hyperracialized, murderous, conspiratorial, cadre that simply hated all non-Irian races, why was Richter the only man who was racing a alarm about what was happening in Asia Minor? Nobody seems to be able to answer that question for me. They simply ignore it or say I'm lying or move on without addressing it. But he hasn't made. The Third Reich, although arguably there's the deepest sort of diplomatic rapport and cultural rapport enjoyed with Dar-L-Islam.

11:47The other major axis nations made similar efforts to curate and mobilize Islamic support. Mussolini, he famously, I mean, this was very performative and very stage-managed. In the 1937, he arranged for this ceremony where he was presented with a quote, sort of Islam at a public ceremony in Tripoli. Symbolically holding himself in the Kenan Middle East out as a protector of the Muslim world against communism. And he went on to clear that the quote, laws of the prophet would be honored. Gurbals actually made note of this in his diaries. Prolific as he was as a diaries. It was one of the reasons that such a valuable artifact, he had kind of a cynical take on

12:56this. He said, you know, the Ducati never passes up an opportunity to glorify himself as the protector of other peoples, which was true. I don't think Ducati had some deep affinity for Islam or spent much time. Hey, it's Kelly Rowland. You may not know this, but I have Exema. So I get how it can steal your time. But why let Exema take over when you can talk to your doctor about Epglyce? Epglyce, lubricism ab LBKZ, a 250-mg per 2-mg leader injection, is a prescription medicine used to treat adults and children 12 years of age and older, who weigh at least 88 pounds or 40 kilograms, with moderate to severe Exema. Also called a topic dermatitis that is not well controlled with prescription therapies used on the skin, or topicals, or who cannot use topical therapies. Epglyce can be used with or without topical corticosteroids. Don't use if you are allergic to Epglyce. A allergic reactions can occur that can be severe. I problems can occur. While your doctor if you have newer, worsening eye problems, you should not receive a live

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16:05that might be emergent otherwise. Similarly, the Shinto is Japan. They established the greater Japan Islamic League. And simultaneously, the Tokyo Mosque was established in 1938. And they very much dedicated a lot of effort and resources, both military and capital, to encouraging Islamic uprising against the Dutch. And radicalizing people in the Dutch indies against both the British and the Netherlands. And like I said, in the case of the right, this long predated the national socialist revolution,

17:16the essential powers, particularly the Kaiserite, the Ottoman Empire was an essential ally there. And until they got knocked out of the war, they played an essential role in allowing Germany to sustain a two front conflict. There are so much emphasis on the Western front and the male strong and slaughter that represented if not enough ink dedicated to the Aust front of World War I, where it wasn't the stalemate that came to pass in the West because the open step precluded it and facilitated maneuver. The reason gas was used to greater effect in the East as well.

18:18And obviously, you know, until the, after the Russian Revolution, the Reichswehr was victorious. I mean, that was one of the big sore points of the military in the wake of our side, as they were forced to give up these territories that they won on the battlefield. But before an entire army deployed to the East was freed up by the Red Revolution and the Treaty of Brustatosk, the Ottomans were playing an essential role and then Kaiserite, the Jewish strategic flank.

19:20And Wilhelm, who was not any kind of great diplomat or strategic thinker, he went out of his way to sustain, go to offices with the Ottomans. You know, Holveg was very much the political mind behind the Kaiserite, but the Kaiser himself, particularly in dealing with, you know, fellow monarchs and a magna mistake, you know, even in its waiting days, an Ottoman Sultan had great authority. It was essential for dictates and declarations as well as incinuations, both subtle and flagrant, come from the Kaiser himself. You know, so German Ottoman authorities, they collaborated and tried to cultivate

20:27Pan-Islamic consciousness in North Africa, the Near East and Russia, and India, I mean, this was a long standing effort. It's not a question that he merged in 1939. He didn't enroll or two as the very monarch of the Vafan SS, even early on, as they found themselves deployed to Islamic lands. German authorities were explicit that Islam was of political importance and sold out and were instructed to respect religious customs and in show respect for Islam when dealing with Muslims and to treat them as friendly and unless they exhibited disrespect for the Reich, its heraldry or for, you know, the personal honor of a solo in officers.

21:29On the Ostefront, the Reich one as far as they were the reestablishment of mosques and mitrasses and they set aside pious entailments for the reestablishment of Islamic religious life. They did the same thing with Orthodox churches, but that goes up saying if history of the conflict on the political side of things, but this went a long way undermining Soviet rule because Muslims were targeted with as much hostility as the Orthodox were, you know, and Gervels himself made the point that the early Soviet cadre is in KVD and the Czecha, they hated the Muslims, the Rethocacterian reasons as much as they did the Christians and viewed them as their oppressors and did incredibly brutal things and tried to try

22:32to extricate religious sensibility from Islamic communities. Verimag authorities also, they're very much cultivated, you know, the Ulamah in Eastern territories and the ball games especially, that's how... Show button here, football season is finally back and prize picks is bringing out their best offer yet. New users who sign up will get $150 in lineups if you win your first $5 lineup. That's right, if you win your first $5 lineup, you'll get $150 in lineups. On prize picks, you simply pick 2-6 players, pick more or less on their staff projections and submit your lineup. Then, sweat it out as you watch your picks play out live. It's the best way to get more locked in on game day, make all the picks you want, this football season, all in the same app. Also, prize picks is going crazy with the deals to start the football season, giving users a new promo every day during stack September and now, prize picks is available nationwide.

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24:45Then, sweat it out as you watch your picks play out live. It's the best way to get more locked in on game day. Make all the picks you want. This football season, all in the same app. Also, prize picks is going crazy with the deals to start the football season, giving users a new promo every day during stack September. And now, prize picks is available nationwide. So what are you waiting for? Lock in for kickoff because everyone and everything is on prize picks. What you want? Put the app today and use Co-Ad large to get $150 instantly in lineups if you win your first $5 lineup. prize picks, run your game. Headway was made. And as the Balkan theater became this counterinsurgency quagmire that became very important. And on Auntie Pavlich, Poglovnik of the independent state of Croatia. He was raised in a town early in his life that had a very large Muslim population.

25:55And Pavlich himself, he knew a lot about Islam and their rituals. His photographs of him were a fuzz when he's meeting with Bosnianics. It's very interesting. And he famously, he viewed Bosnianics as quote, racial Croatians. And Sunni Islam was viewed as a state religion alongside Roman Catholicism. I'll be a secondary to it. But that sort of expedited these efforts in the Balkan theater, which would have been a lot more difficult if the Easter show was openly hostile to Bosnian populations.

27:02And the very mocked and the Bafan SS, they granted a lot of religious freedom to Muslim recruits. In Muslim formations, the religious calendar was taken into a dietary laws of respect to the mess hall and things. Both the very mocked and the Bafan SS had E-Moms, service chaplains. And they launched ideological education programs to explicate how a Muslim should live as a national socialist. What the meaning was of national socialism to non-dermanic, yet allied races, this was very,

28:07very detailed. Whatever, if anybody agrees with this or not. And these education programs were almost unfailingly delivered by military E-Moms. The only times they weren't is when an E-Mom wasn't available. And Bosnianic E-Moms in particular played an outsized role. And Syriyabal only about 2 million Muslims lived in Syriyabal, but that's the European seat of Islam. And the way Muslims viewed it throughout the Muslim diaspora was being sort of the seat

29:13of Islam and culture in Europe. And also being very directly threatened by communism, there was a peculiar interest in the fortunes of the Bosnianic Syriyabal. And were typically Pius Sunnis, you know, Pius, the Bosnianic Sunnis, they had a strong interest in the fortunes of their core religion, you know, behind the, who are still behind the verbal wire in the Soviet Union and in Palestine, you know, the military, formal military policy towards Islamic peoples and broad strategic terms, really that policy

30:19paradigm first originated on July 25, 1940, just after the fall of France, you know, and that's the battle of Britain was getting underway. A man named Max von Oppenheim, he was a retired diplomat and an Orientalist scholar. He spontaneously sent a memorandum, a seven-page memorandum to the foreign office, suggesting that it was both imperative to cultivate the populations and the enemies Islamic territories and do everything possible to incite our rebellion against the British authorities there and moving forward to give whatever military material aid and diplomatic encouragement

31:27as was reasonable and feasible. You know, and he said if he said the time is not for a comprehensive strategy to mobilize the Islamic world against the British Empire, but he said also if the British have time to consolidate forces and suppress a nascent rebellion, and well, meanwhile holding, you know, German forces at bay in theater, the opportunity will not repeat. He's also Oppenheim who spent most of his adult life traveling and living in the Islamic world. He'd reached out directly as a private person since his retirement.

32:29He was in his early 80s, I believe, to pan Islamic religious figures like Shaqib Arslan and more, most significantly, to the Grand Moofty Aminel Hussein. And they became very close. And Largy at Oppenheim's the haste, Hitler, who had a somewhat tempestuous relationship with the foreign office, he took this seriously and German officers were deployed to the entire Muslim corridor where there was a British imperial presence from Egypt to India. Of course, it's a subject when the Grand Moofty Aminel Hussein was able to gain a personal

33:35audience with the Hitler, and we'll get to that. But this was the origin of what became a strategic imperative in political and military terms. That's important for its own sake, but also the ribbon-trap is another cast, or something to fool or to pop in. But the foreign office's cast is... Show button here. Football season is finally back, and prize picks is bringing out their best offer yet. New users who sign up will get $150 in lineups if you win your first $5 lineup. That's right. Your first $5 lineup will get $150 in lineups. On prize picks, you simply pick 2-6 players, pick more or less on their staff projections, and submit your lineup. Then sweat it out as you watch your picks play out live. It's the best way to get more locked in on game day.

34:35Make all the picks you want. This football season, all in the same app. Also, prize picks is going crazy with the deals to start the football season, giving users a new promo every day during stack September. Now, prize picks is available nationwide. So what are you waiting for? Lock in for kickoff, because everyone and everything is on prize picks. What you want? Download the app today and use Co-Ad large to get $150 in lineups if you win your first $5 lineup. Prize picks, run your game. In the same sort of terms as the app varies, is this sort of a positive or a fifth column is? Hitler's cast is this provincial nationalist who didn't understand the felt of politics. I mean, all that is ridiculous. And this, the relationship of the right to the Islamic world in particular, is a stance in a rebuttal to that inference.

35:38And so this is an important subject matter for that reason. And Oppenheim, he'd served in the Kaiser Reich for decades. And there's few people in living who knew as much about Islam and Islamic societies as he did. And more than any one man, he was responsible for shaping the Kaiser's disposition towards Islam generally. He was trained as a lawyer by education. He'd become fluent in several Middle Eastern languages, including various Arab dialects as well as Turkish. He traveled for years through Africa and the Middle East. And in 1896, when he was officially recruited by the foreign office, he subsequently posted

36:47for 12 years in Cairo, where he directly monitored political developments and cultivated enduring relationships with Arab and Islamic leadership in Sudan during the Madi rebellion. He'd been on the ground there. And what he had tested in subsequent years was that's when he first encountered Islam as a political force. He always understood the deeply integral structure of Islam in conceptual terms. But this had all been abstract or academic until this point. In Sudan, he came to realize that Islam had a strong role to play in the burning political process that it had an ability to animate highest elements towards direct military action.

37:55And therein it was a force multiplier. And that there was a peculiar interplay of deep theology and political and military imperatives in the Islamic world. And the Western power that could integrate that into its own political soldiery would carry the day in theater. And he'd been able to gain audiences with the Ottoman Sultan with a number of other luminaries, both reactionaries and reformers. What they were holding common was a belief and advocacy of the Pan-Islamic cause in lieu

38:58of this could a narrow ethno-nationalism that was still characteristic in the colonized world and substantial measure. And Oppenheim's dispatches were delivered personally to the Kaiser who basically viewed them as gospel in terms of how to proceed in the Near East and North Africa. And the Kaiser, Wilhelm, for all his shortcomings was from myriad. And he was in many respects, the Reich was unfortunately saddled with him. He did delegate to experts. If there is its whole vague, the self-sconely had the sort of power he did. And on matters relating to a veiled politic, the Kaiser tentative deferred to people he

40:05viewed as the experts. That's a very proscient. And that's why, despite Germany not having a global profile in terms of directly administered colonies in the way that the United Kingdom or France, or the Spanish or the Portuguese United, they tend to do very well at cultivating allies in the developing world. And this one, some of this was, and we'll get into this in our 30 years' worth series,

41:08and I want to cover this one about to discuss, as well as the proxy war that was going on in Japan during the 30 years war between the Catholics and specifically Dutch-reformed elements. But the Ottomans had granted asylum to Protestants, both Lutheran and Reformed, who were either refugees of hostilities in the 30s war or were wanted by the Inquisition. And a sort of cultural rapport developed between Protestant Germany and Sunni Islam. Show blood in here. Football season is finally back. And prize picks is bringing out their best offer yet. New users who sign up will get $150 in lineups if you win your first $5 lineup. That's right, if you win your first $5 lineup, you'll get $150 in lineups.

42:12On prize picks, you simply pick two to six players, pick more or less on their staff projections, and submit your lineup. Then, sweat it out as you watch your picks play out live. It's the best way to get more locked in on game day. Make all the picks you want. This football season, all in the same app. Also, prize picks is going crazy with the deals to start the football season, giving users a new promo every day during stack September. And now, prize picks is available nationwide. So what are you waiting for? Lock in for kickoff because everyone and everything is on prize picks. What you want? Download the app today and use Co-Ad large to get $150 in lineups if you win your first $5 lineup. Prize picks, run your game. And I think that that's something that's understated. And a lot of these, otherwise very complete accounts of the subject matter. But even limited as the Kaiser X Colonial profile was, the Kaiser I did, and the colonies

43:19that did have rule over, did rule over Islamic populations in Togo and Cameroon and Germany's to Africa now, and the mid-Beah. And obviously it was far easier. I mean, Africans are, subterranean Africans are, are, this challenges to managing those populations just because of profound alienage. It's obviously, but the colonial authorities obviously found it easier to deal with Islamic elements than pagan ones who described it as some sort of folk animism or something. And from the outset, curated good offices with Islamic elements in these territories.

44:20And local Islamic structures weren't disturbed so long as Muslim leaders accepted the colonial presence in Germany Africa. Sharia courts recognized Islamic endowments weren't touched or taxed. Withdraw says we left to open. Really just holidays were acknowledged. The Germans wisely, they ruled through Muslim intermediaries and Islamic dignitaries. You weren't generally going to be visited in your township by a white man or a German colonial administrator. It would be an African Muslim intermediary or a respected man in the local mosque who you deal with. And he in turn, a deal with the Germans.

45:23And on the one hand, this left colonial governor somewhat isolated, but on the other hand, he also meant that these intermediaries, they had the might of the Kaiserite behind them and they've been in an uprising. So indirect rule was highly effective. And that it's not discussed enough that, again, in comparative terms, limited as the German colonial profile and experience was, it very much was a school of political rule and a high political intrigue. And they were very good at it. And I think that's not often enough acknowledged other than in very perfunctory terms.

46:25And this also led to, as these kinds of colonial, as more and more business was done in the colonies and as a geostrategic imperative developed around the German presence there. There was more and more of these sort of colonial caresses, formal and informal between military and political and business authorities within the Kaiserite. This led to the development of a cadre of experts in his long studies in German and there was always a streak of Orientalism in modern German, the academic, many way. But these guys who previously really only were focused on classical Islam and their

47:36relations with the Greeks and things, they shifted their conceptual focus very much on the contemporary Muslim world and what a proper imperial policy should be towards Islam, Kwa Islam. And there really wasn't something comparable in the UK or France. There was philology type stuff and obviously a very advanced cultural anthropology, but a kind of political science of how European Christiandom should index with Islam and power political capacities. That was pretty much exclusive to the right.

48:40There was a German colonial institute formally established. One of their big luminaries was a guy named Karl Heinrich Becker. A couple of his colleagues, Martin Hartman and Dietrich Vesterman. Becker was centered in Hamburg, Hartman and Vesterman in Berlin. They placed themselves in their faculty at the full disposal of the German Empire and the entirety of their labors and their endowment was put in the service of investigating and studying Islam and the colonies, accumulating knowledge on its spread, historical and contemporary, its impact on

49:50power political affairs. These massive surveys undertaken by Becker Hartman and Vesterman in 1911 and 1913 respectively, which were then submitted to the Kaiser through the colonial institute to the foreign office and the son were to the Kaiser. This became a view of his power political dogma in terms of how to proceed in policy terms, both formally and below board. The German Society for the Study of Islam. It published a periodical de-feltity Islam, the world of Islam.

50:53That became regarded as the seminal European academic journal on contemporary Islamic faith and practice and politics. These people, even in the UK, which supposedly is full of these progressives and people who have, I don't have to think progressives know what they're talking about, but it's characterized supposedly by this sort of progressive sensibility and agademy. On the other hand, these mocky of alien types of a deep understanding of alien cultures and how to establish and maintain power therein. Most of these German experts, their counterparts, they just looked at indigenous religions,

52:00whether they were savage forms of animism or paganism and Islam is so much nonsense or something primitive. It was these German philologists and cultural studies types and orientalists who emphasized the Kaiser and demonstrated within and without of their own culture to agademe. Look, Islam is a formative civilizing element. The higher races within Darul Islam, if you'll allow the descriptor, produce extraordinarily high culture and Islam is brought millions by millions of people out of ignorance and

53:04savagery. And even if one doesn't accept that, it's a singular power-political force that is playing an essential role in the political process underway in the then-NAS in 20th century. And to be clear, this is when Christianity was under full assault by the Communists. However, when this tried to be a bend, this enforce secularism reigned throughout the Western world. That's one of the things that set the stage for the Bolshevik revolution. So Islam is this catalyzing element really stood alone among world religions. I mean, don't get me wrong.

54:08There were pious Christians who were quite literally waging a holy war against the Communists. And I, yes, I believe in symbolic psychological terms and anthropological terms that all politics is essentially theological. But I'm talking in terms of conscious religious practice and the ability of religious imperatives to animate political affairs in the early 20th century, Islam really stood alone in that capacity at global scale. That's what I'm talking about for clarity. And that this was not lost obviously on these people that we're talking about.

55:08It's probably the best known political theorist who devised a praxis of imperial rule. These of the Islam was Karl Heinrich Becker. He emphasized again and again, he said, Islam wasn't as the British claim, the colonial governments. He said not only is it not a threat, but that it should and can be used to bolster imperial rule and to guarantee peace, stability and public order. He said that the main reason why the white Western powers were coming into hostile contact with Islamic cultures was because they were either treating Muslim populations like they

56:09were animist or pagan savages or they were viewing observance of Islamic practice as somehow inherently subversive. And that integral aspect of Islam not only did it render it an essentially political confession in a way that other faiths are not, but it also meant that to attack any aspect of its observance was to attack every aspect of the reigning way of life and theater. And this wasn't a minority opinion among the German colonial authorities, both political,

57:19diplomatic and military. German colonial officers didn't have a hostile disposition towards Islam. And they correctly viewed the anti-imperialist elements and the pro-communist elements in theater that claimed to be pan-Islamic. They weren't really because the two, it was an irreconcilable velcro storm. There was superficially Islamist language in Moscow's propaganda as well as... Show button here. Football season is finally back and prize picks is bringing out their best offer yet. New users who sign up will get $150 in lineups if you win your first $5 lineup. On prize picks you simply pick 2-6 players, pick more or less on their stat projections

58:23and submit your lineup. Then sweat it out as you watch your picks play out live. It's the best way to get more locked in on game day. Make all the picks you want. This football season. All in the same app. So prize picks is going crazy with the deals to start the football season. Giving users a new promo every day during stack September. And now, prize picks is available nationwide. So what are you waiting for? Lock in for kickoff. Because everyone and everything is on prize picks. What you want? Download the app today and use Co-Ad large to get $150 in lineups if you win your first $5 lineup. prize picks. Run your game. Within some of these anti-colonial ideological subcultures, but there was no depth to it. Johan von Leer is going to get into him next episode. He's a lesser known personage within the Third Reich.

59:30And it was an essential personage to the national soul of his resistance or the De De Fee. I hold him in great esteem. But he correctly recognized. Islam is not reactionary. In fact, it tends towards a revolutionary paradigm. But it is socially conservative in terms of its view of authority. And a assault in or a king or a colonial governor or a pro-curator or an occupying general. Even if he himself is not of the faith and not of your people, if he protects Islam from its enemies and allows the free observance of Islam, you are obligated as a good Muslim

1:00:35to not revolt against them. For example. No help when as far as in the autumn of 1898, the Kaiser went on a tour of the German colonies and of the Holy Land in the Middle East generally. And he visited Damascus specifically to visit the tomb of Selhadin. And he gave a speech to all these assembled masses of people where he declared himself to be a friend of Islam and the German Empire to be a friend of Islam.

1:01:39He gave the world's 300 million mahamidians the priority that Berlin put on the cultivation of this relationship. It wasn't just a minor consideration. Emergent didn't afford an office or something that colonial officers posted in theater. We're trying to force the Kaiser and the government to take notice of this paid dividends. Not only did it maintain good offices with the Ottomans who were in real trouble then,

1:02:45but who were an essential ally within the rationality of the political paradigm that we've seen in the past. There was an enduring affinity between the German people and the German people and the Cold War in my opinion. This is a bit of a tangent, but the only Marxist-Leninist Arab state was South Yemen. It was a cadre of East Germans who really were the intermediary between the Warsaw Packs, the East Block and the indigenous Arabs there.

1:03:57The book John Coler is a Cold War state department guy. He wrote a really interesting book on the Stasi. He's very much a pro-regime kind of guy, Cold Warier type. I believe he was a lot of state department people. I think he was probably an intelligence guy under diplomatic cover. He wrote about the Stasi and the National Folk Sarmiz presence in Yemen. He tried to cast as pejoratively as possible suggesting that all these Germans swearing around colonial overlords. It's like, well, they're doing something right. The Yemenis didn't open fire on them and send them packing. The Yemenis aren't exactly a people who take a knee for others just because, you know,

1:05:03if anything, they're as impossible to govern as the past to. It was the DDR that really sold them on the idea of Stalinism. I mean, there's South Yemen, there's a confusing pastiche of political intrigues in Yemen. But I mean, obviously, and not suggesting that the sole or even the primary proximate cause of them, aligned with the East Block, was East German persuasiveness or intrigues. But interestingly, they're one of the Yemeni militias today in the South of the country. They ride under the flag of South Yemen. And they claim a drag lineage to that that polity.

1:06:03You know, so it's that there's something there. Yeah, that, I think that should be adequate foundation, man. There's still a couple other authors I want to get into relating to the Orientalist economic culture in the Kaiser Reichen and later in the Third Reich. And the impact that had on conceptual matters. But I want to get into the grandmove the El Hussini and Palestine. And its status as an axis element and things. And that I promise after that we'll get back to the 30 years war. But this is important. Then it's particularly timely in my opinion. Okay, do you think you're going to be able to talk about the grandmove and Ben Van Liers in one episode or is this possibly going to be three? Yeah, they might go three, but I'll see what I can do.

1:07:06I'll try and expedite it. Well, don't, yeah, don't leave anything out just to, you know, we can do three episodes that would be perfectly fun. Okay. Yeah, thanks for hosting me. Of course, always. Head on over to Thomas the Substack real Thomas 777.substack.com. And his website is Thomas, Thomas 777.com the T is a seven. You can connect to everything from either one of those places. And if you want to try and find them on X where, where, you know, his account could be gone one day and back to the next. Yeah, they need to be in the past. I mean, X is a total pile of shit. Like it really is. I'm not trying to play murder, but I only maintain an account there because people have some reason can't move on from it. And it's kind of the one stop place to index of people and stuff.

1:08:10As a kid say, as a kid say, or used to say this phrase is probably played out by now, it's really fake and gay. Yeah, it's going to garbage. It's fucking garbage. And yeah, it's fake and gay as well. All right, Thomas. It's actually in a couple days. Thank you. I want to welcome everyone back to the Pekingyone show. Thomas is back for part two. Talking about the relationship between Islam and not only the third Reich, but, you know, you talked about the Kaiser years in the first part. So jump right in. Thanks. Yeah, and subsequently, I at least want to dedicate a brief addendum to discussing the post-war resistance and exile. And show blood in here. Football season is finally back. And prize picks is bringing out their best offer yet. New users who sign up will get $150 in lineups if you win your first $5 lineup.

1:09:16That's right. If you win your first $5 lineup, you'll get $150 in lineups. On prize picks, you simply pick two to six players, pick more or less on their staff projections and submit your lineup. Then, sweat it out as you watch your picks play out live. It's the best way to get more locked in on game day. Make all the picks you want. This football season, all in the same app. Also, prize picks is going crazy with the deals to start the football season, giving users a new promo every day during stack September. And now, prize picks is available nationwide. So what are you waiting for? Lock in for kickoff because everyone and everything is on prize picks. What you want? Download the app today and use Co-Ad large to get $150 in lineups if you win your first $5 lineup. Prize picks, run your game. How that dovetailed with the cause of Palestinian liberation and Panasonic consciousness generally, I think we got into some of that when we were talking about the post-war diaspora of national socialist and exiled.

1:10:26We were talking about how Deir Vag, which Johan von Wears, as well as Otto Riemer and Hans Rudel, was a major contributor to both in terms of his work product and capital investment. And when Argentina was no longer a friendly environment for that sort of partisan activity, Johan De Peron being forced out of office, von Wears made his way to the court of NASA and Egypt and Syria, in particular, were very much the low-key of that kind of partisan activity. And that's significant because that plays into the not just the military culture of the region on the Arab side, many of whom were trained by

1:11:29for national socialist and baribox veterans, but also it impacted the culture of resistance in profound ways. And that's something that's overlooked. And we talked a bit about the odd dialectics of the DDR and the Rhoht Army fraction and horse demoler. Obviously, he was representing when he was on the ground in the Levant was there to the DDR and the Rhoht Army fraction, but he did a lot to facilitate deep contact and operational interdependence with the popular front for the liberation of Palestine. And the nascent PLO and things, and this all ties together, not just conceptually, but

1:12:33in terms of a common nucleus of operative effect, if that makes sense. Let me see, I always try to indicate in my outlines where I weave off. So if I'm repeating myself, please let me know. I raised my leaders, if memory serves, we left off talking about the leaders and some of his work early on and after the national socialist revolution, as early as 1934-35, he was attempting to create good offices with European Muslims in the Balkans, as well as with elements in Palestine and behind the the proverbial wire in the Soviet Union. And when leaders very much had the ear of

1:13:39the Gervals as time went on, the Gervals actually, through the propaganda ministry, he instructed the press to paint a positive image of Islam, or at least not a negative one. This law unproceeded the war. And he urged journalists under the penumbre of the propaganda ministry. To give credit to the Islamic world as a cultural factor that plays a historically significant role in the historical process, and that alliance between the national socialist cause and pen Islamism and the liberation of the Holy Land is completely commensurate with

1:14:55and a component of a national socialist and health policy. And this is important for a few reasons. It's such light, not just on the deep ideological culture and philosophical disposition and national socialism. It's state or bears, but also it's another rebuttal of the claim that the Third Reich was this provincial state that didn't understand the cultural and strategic situation outside of immediate battle theaters. And this proposed this for a lot of reasons. Many of which are obvious. Germany was a very cosmopolitan country, not in the modern pejorative sense. Show button here. Football season is finally back and prize picks is bringing out their best offer yet.

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1:16:59but on lear's, of course, too, he was a linguist. He was fluent in something like 13 different dialects. He was a cultural anthropologist. I mean, what we consider a cultural anthropologist. He was a philologist. He was an expert on Islam and Oriental Societies. And he was very much a right Hageelian. And he wrote an essay, probably his most famous essay. And he's fairly accessible online. I don't know if you can find a translation that's not corrupted by AI Slop. But it was titled Judaism and Islam as Opusus. And in Hageelian terms,

1:18:00the line of lear is viewed Islam as the dialectical antithesis and Judaism and a splendid repudiation of it. And he said that that's one of the reasons why the caliphate wasn't subverted by a hostile Jewish element within. Because these recalcitrant people were locked behind ghetto walls. And every aspect of the Islamic cultural, social, and we will code for occluded the mobilizing in a possible capacity to wage war from within by subterfuge or any other way. And whether anybody

1:19:03accepts that perspective or not, I think that it is married within the Hageelian paradigm or without. It's a fascinating theory. And I highly recommend any of my lear's essays that you can run down. I mean, admittedly, I've got a discrete interest in the subject matter. And it's relevant to my own research. But aside from that, I believe it's essentially having a complete understanding and conceptual terms of the Third Reich and the National Socialist Ideological Culture. And Vinelear's wasn't alone in his overall perspectives. Ferdinand Klaus, he was a well-regarded racial theorist. And

1:20:10he was an associate of Hans Goenthr, Hans of K. Goenthr, who was another well-known racialist. Both these guys that are profile comparable to he who's considered shame, Belenor Lothrop, started for comparison. Klaus's book, Ross Oonsel, Ross Oonsel, race and soul, was a profile parallel purpose as a best seller for a different reason. The dad that he cited because of Ghani, Klaus and Goenthr both had very much

1:21:14done. I'm a materialist of view of race. But they were in substantial agreement with Julius Evela, I were nagging on and suggesting a basic affinity between the master, Kass stratum of the Nordic race and that of the caliphate. In other words, Islam was emergent and curated by the natural racial overcast within Darul Islam. And that's one of the reasons that so splendidly tailored to this integral concept of sovereignty where every man is in his place.

1:22:20And the Kass system remains undisturbed because it emerges from the natural hierarchy within the original paradigm from where it was emergent. Klaus wrote reports to the SS head office on political affairs and strategic matters relating to anthropological considerations. And he wrote a paper that was submitted titled,

1:23:24Preparation of an Operation for winning over the Islamic peoples. You know, within it he reflected on the good offices between the Kaisarayik and the Ottoman Empire. He talked about the warrior heritage of many of the step people who were very much culturally Muslim. And he said it's important to emphasize similarities and then the Dalatian song between national socialist doctrine and ethics and the Kharan. You know, and that's very interesting. And to be clear, Klaus wasn't suggesting that national socialism was intended as some sort of irisats religion.

1:24:31I know that that's something a lot of anti-fascist like to claim and bandy. He was acknowledging that the Islamic faith structure is very very different than religion in the Occident. There's the integral aspects of it that are significant. Because Islam is a political doctrine and an ethical disposition as well as the theological system. And that's what's key. And if you're a Higalian, which essentially every time you see, everybody associated with the Third Reich was, this some degree or another, you view the development of religiosity as being very much bound up with the dialectical process

1:25:36within the relevant culture. And the variables that the historical variables that created Islam were very congress with those that gave rise to national socialism, particularly the perennial existential ross and creek against the Jew. So it's not really a stretch. You know, and again, you've got to understand the conceptual parameters of the time and place that these ideas were being populated. There was a unique receptivity, actual or potential. And a lot of people who are otherwise

1:26:45know the subject matter are overly dismissive of. Lineups, if you win your first $5 lineup, that's right. If you win your first $5 lineup, you'll get $150 in lineups. On price picks, you simply pick two to six players, pick more or less on their stat projections and submit your lineup. Then, sweat it out as you watch your picks play out live. It's the best way to get more locked in on game day. Make all the picks you want. This football season, all in the same app. Also, price picks is going crazy with the deals to start the football season, giving users a new promo every day during stack September. And now, price picks is available nationwide. So what are you waiting for? Lock in for kickoff because everyone and everything is on price picks. What you want? Download the app today and use co-add large to get one of your $50 instantly in lineups

1:27:47if you win your first $5 lineup. Price picks, run your game. Of that. Interestingly, close. After the war, he abandoned biological racialism. He remained an Orientalist, academic, and he ultimately converted to Islam. That was the case with Carl Wolf, the SS Ajitant to the permanent SS Ajitant to the fear. Later, he commanded troops in the field and he was highly decorated. He wasn't just a parade ground soldier. But he's a fast nation. David Irving is a great book. I understand some people's

1:28:51lament that you can tell that it was intended to be two volumes. The infirmity of old age that strikes us all down. Struck Irving before you complete it. But what there is of it is just fantastic. But anyway, Carl Wolf's testimony is cited extensively. Anyway, Carl Wolf's daughter Fatima Grimm. She married that Shek Abazniak Muslim guy that she converted to Islam. She became an Islamic theologian. She wrote extensively on Jihad as a concept. I realized Klaus and Fatima Grimm and people like I'm a huber who is a

1:30:00fascinating personage. I believe that he would have been indicted after 9-11. He had not died. But that's a subject or a discussion for another day. I realized these people are outliers. I'm not suggesting that it's normative or some sort of natural progression within German cultural dialectics to convert to Islam. I've got your manuscript respect for Islam, but I could never imagine converting to Islam. With the exception of somebody like Renee Gino, who truly went native. I mean, that living among Muslims and living in the Orient for essentially his whole life, that's a different phenomenon. However, with those qualifiers, there is some sort of internal logic, especially

1:31:06considered the catastrophe of the dead to feet and the subsequent occupation. There is some sort of internal logic to the peculiar spiritual journey of van liars of Fatima Grimm of Klaus, I believe. But I'm sure the rebuttal of that is that that's speculation. There was others too. There was other academic writers, Schmitts, Lindemann, Reichart, who posited not just an alliance of geosatheedic convenience, but an ideological affinity for between Islam and the national social estate on Higalian grounds.

1:32:14Lindemann went as far as to say that some of the propaganda that he drafted intended for Islamic societies, to say the pure principle is the accidental variant of the principle that animates the caliphate. Reichart knew the Quran very well, so he was able to cite passages that conveyed the notion that Muhammad was the fear of the believers. Subsequently, the caliph represented that role. And he made clear that the fear is comparable to the Madi, he's not suggesting the fear is a prophet. It was very intelligently tailored before its purpose.

1:33:18And of course, Muslims were under tremendous pressure by the communists. They were targeted as severely as Orthodox Christians were. And that also provided an avenue of ingress for this kind of discursive affinity. And after as early as 1936, the major transmitter of German propaganda to the Mediterranean and North Africa in the Middle East was in Zesson, which was a small town south of Berlin.

1:34:20And it housed at the time one of the most powerful shortwave transmitters in the world. It had been built for the transmit for the 1936 Olympics. And after 19, as of 1939, the broadcast station in Zesson, it had an Arabic broadcast every day. Intended for Turks, Iranians, Muslims who were then within the British Raj, there was a journalist, Gustav Boffinger, who headed up what was called the Orient Office of the Radio Station. They had 70 or 80 permanent staff members, that type as translators and

1:35:25officers. And as the war went on, it broadcasted not only in standard Arabic, but in Berber and some of these Caucasus languages too. There was an Egyptian emigrate named a Eunus Bari, who was a big national socialist. And he was a permanent fixture at the Zesson Radio Station. He's a shadowy guy. He disappeared at some point. And it's pretty clear. If he wasn't murdered, he disappeared into the Middle East and probably took a new identity and ended up similarly in the court of NASA or in Syria. But this is the Zesson,

1:36:29the Oriental Broadcast from Zesson, they continued until just a month before the day of defeat, in April 1945. So it was a major thing. Show button here. Football season is finally back. And prize picks is bringing out their best offer yet. New users who sign up will get $150 in lineups if you win your first $5 lineup. That's right, if you win your first $5 lineup, you'll get $150 in lineups. On prize picks, you simply pick two to six players, pick more or less on their staff projections and submit your lineup. Then, sweat it out as you watch your picks play out live. It's the best way to get more locked in on game day. Make all the picks you want. This football season, all in the same app. Also, prize picks is going crazy with the deals to start the football season, giving users a new promo every day during stack September. And now, prize picks is available nationwide. So what are you waiting for? Lock in for kickoff because everyone and everything

1:37:33is on prize picks. What you want? Download the app today and use co-add large to get one of your $50 in lineups if you win your first $5 lineup. Prize picks, run your game. We've got to get into the life and times in Mohamed Amino Hussein for this to be anything approaching complete discussion. So, forgive me for changing gears to, you know, like a biographical discussion. You know, of course, Hussein was the grand moose of Jerusalem. And he's a man who's very much lied about, and which comes as no surprise. Not only was he a Palestinian. And a significant man in SUNY Islam, but he also was a lie to the ex's cause. Is that sort of a, this sort of a perfect stormic characteristics that, you know,

1:38:35may want to target for slanders of the most hostile sort. He was pretty much indisputably the most powerful leader of the Palestinian national movement during British rule over, you know, what before it had been an Ottoman fiefdom. But those that don't know from approximately 1917 until 1948, that was the period of British rule over Palestine. And the move he was, he reminds me very much of Syed Kutib in his disposition. You know, people suggest he talked at both sides of his mouth and the issue of violent partisan activity.

1:39:38You've got to understand the role of a, the movety. A movety is a learned man in his Islamic jurisprudence. And SUNY's put a premium on interpretation and application of the law. So a movety, he's not a governor as we think of it, and he's not a priest either. He's a, he's one part sort of a learned wise man within the tribe. And one part intermediary between the congregation and the faithful and the outsider or secular authority. You know, and a lot of both Zionists and a lot of court historians either out of ignorance or because they're howtowing the, the prejudice of the former, they claim, oh, the British invented the office of the

1:40:41grand movety to have some sort of figurehead on the ground, this, you know, to mitigate the difficulties of, of directly ruling over a Muslim population. It's not true. That's ridiculous. They've pretty recognized him as the grand move, the up Jerusalem, and seated authority over Islamic holy sites to him. But you're, you're talking about a role in a title and a function of movety that spans a thousand years, okay? But to bring it back to some of the similarities in him and Poo-Tib and another Islamic jurist types. You know, it's, there's a complex interplay between how a good Muslim relates to secular authority and how he manages a situation and is such as that, that,

1:41:53you know, the Palestinians were in vis-à-vis the occupation. They knew that some sort of race war was coming and that the, the Zionist wanted to ethnically cleanse them. They knew the British would be leaving at some point and they knew that if a national state was going to be realized, they would have to make that divorce from British rule amicable. You know, and finally, a movety is not a general and he's not a guerrilla fighter or a soldier. I mean, his, if he, if he's called to lay down his life for jihad, that's what he must do and he will do if he's worthy of the title. But, you know, he's, it's not his role to devise military solutions under conditions of occupation or it's his job to keep the people safe. You know, and to interpret

1:43:02the laws laid down by the governing structure in a way that allows for an Islamic life to be realized. You know, and beyond that too, I'm not a Quran scholar, but so, you know, just, I just want to get that out there. But, when our revolt is permissible under the Quran, there's very discrete conditions for that. You know, even in apostate, Occupier or Caliph, if he protects Islam and allows Muslims to freely worship, it's not, it's not just a righteous to overthrow him or to disobey him. You know, and so there's that obviously, you know, he's a hate target of, of management and the story is the anglif sphere, but even a lot of Muslims, some people trying to paint him as

1:44:04some sort of extremist quasi-national socialist. On the other hand, you, you know, you, a lot of passionate people behind the Palestinian cause, you know, they view him as some sort of Machiavellian intriguer, you know, who didn't do enough to protect Palestine, that's misguided, in my opinion. And, you know, he was as partisan as he, as was appropriate to the circumstances. And the fact that he, the fact that he got a personal audience, they thought Hitler was pretty remarkable, and the way that came about is fascinating too. And I'll get into that. But, you know, the, on the one hand, Hitler was cunning and who he would curate good offices with. But it's,

1:45:09it wasn't some foreign conclusion, Hitler would meet whoever the grand moofy of Palestine was, I mean, basically the by force of personality and the post persuasiveness of his polemic and his own sort of cunning and intriguing, because he was something of an intriguer that's not a slander is what brought him into a face-to-face meeting with the fear, and that's pretty extraordinary, you know, whatever flaws that have to be acknowledged. You know, and it's also to the circumstances on the ground in Palestine, I mean, to say nothing of the war years, but from the conclusion, from the fall of the Ottoman Empire, until, you know, the, the, the declaration of the Zionist state and the ethnic cleansing of Palestine,

1:46:13there's an incredibly unstable and not just fluid but an actively chaotic situation on the ground in the levant, you know, the, the moofies views changed in accordance with the security situation and the, and the historical situation, you know, there was basically at least two distinct phases, you know, from 1917 when the British arrived, until about 1936, where he was, like, Saikutib, a kind of cautious, pragmatic, traditional leader in the moofty role, you know, cooperate with British officials, well, uncompromisingly opposing Zionism, and then there was the exile phase, the moofty was exile literally Arab-Rubul, which was catastrophic,

1:47:21not his exile, I mean, the, the outcome of the Arab-Rubul, but rightly or wrongly, he was swept up in the, the, the reaction of the, the crown to the Revolutionary situation on the ground and, you know, he was identified as a partisan actor, if not an architect of the rebellion, but after, he was understandably bitter being exiled from his home, you know, and again, the, Hussini family has a powerful and distinct heritage, for this day, they, they remain important people in theater, but he became, he became increasingly radical, and he gravitated ultimately

1:48:29to the axis, and he did become a partisan, you know, he, ultimately, he became, essentially got-lawed burgers, right-hand man, and recruiting and mobilizing Muslim populations to the Vafuna Sess. Now, again, to, you know, Hussini had been, he'd come up through the Ottoman system, you know, the Hussini family, they were the most prominent political Palestinian family, who were the direct intermediary for generations between the Palestinians and the island overlords.

1:49:32You know, so I mean, exiling him was, was no small thing, and he wasn't, he wasn't some upstart careerist, or some random imam, you know, who insinuated himself into a clerical and partisan role, going to a nascent, and then fully realized crisis situation. You know, so that's, all these things are, all these things are important to consider. What, uh, oh, I want to give me one second just to find my citation here. I'm sorry. I wanted to, I wanted to get into how, um,

1:50:39how the grand move you got an audience with Hitler. Um, show blood in here. Football season is finally back, and prize picks is bringing out their best offer yet. New users who sign up will get $150 in lineups if you win your first $5 lineup. That's right. If you win your first $5 lineup, you'll get $150 in lineups. On prize picks, you simply pick two to six players, pick more or less on their staff projections, and submit your lineup. Then, sweat it out as you watch your picks play out live. It's the best way to get more locked in on game day. Make all the picks you want. This football season, all in the same app. Also, prize picks is going crazy with the deals to start the football season, giving users a new promo every day during stack September. And now, prize picks is available nationwide. So what are you waiting for? Lock in for kickoff because everyone and everything is on prize picks. What you want? Download the app today and use co-add large to get one of your $50 instantly in lineups if you win your first $5 lineup.

1:51:42prize picks run your game. Another person who was essential to the development of the third rights relationship with the grand move to e but Islamic populations generally was a German officer named Vellheim Hintersatz. Also known as Harun Arajid Bey. He was an SS standard and fewer. He was born in Brandenburg and during World War II, he commanded the Eastern Muslim division, we stopped cittish bειber Díboni Wing Kom decoy This was a cosmic polyhedic piece of

1:52:45Kazakhstan's turquoise explosion of over 100%. Aziri's, you name it, but El Rashid during the First World War, he served on the general staff of the Ottoman Empire with Inverpasha, who was one of the young Turks for those in Middle history. And during his time there, two things happened, he developed a strong admiration for Otto Lehman von Sanders, who he met. Sanders was this Prussian aristocrat who was a non-observant, racial Jew, who became this hero of the Ottoman Empire after spending his life there and training their people and waging war when the Ottoman Empire went

1:53:50to war and command the Turkish troops. El Rashid wrote a biography of Sanders later that he got published in Berlin in the 30s, that got a lot of fanfare. Anyway, during the war, during the Great War, he converted to Islam and then he, that's one of the team Haru and El Rashid Bey. After his conversion, he met up with, as the Great War was ending, there was a whole glut of POWs from the Russian Empire at the Wunstorf camp and he met, he met a bunch of Muslim POWs who had been drafted into the Zarrist Army and they further schooled them in Islam and he developed an interest also in the Russian way of war because looking

1:54:58forward, it was clear that the Soviet Union was going to be the prime geostrategic actor, who was an assistant Europe and not just country of Germany but, you know, across this entire planet. Because he was an Aryan Muslim and an experienced combat officer and he was multilingual and he had the implicit trust of other Muslims. He was recruited by Italian intelligence when they went to war on Ethiopia. So he served El Ducce and further sort of augmented his credentials. And guys who served under him, like Italians and Germans, you know, who said it was uncanny,

1:56:06that they said he quote, prayed without timidity and a mosque and quote, he had the implicit trust of the native Muhammadians who saw him as a fellow believer. He also viewed the United Kingdom as potentially Germany's Achilles heel and he said, and this was even long before the ascendancy of the war party but he said that the British Empire is going to have to be neutralized because they're going to make war on the right. And he said that he instrumentality of the right prevailing in that conflict is an alliance with with with Muslims, you know, currently under a hostile occupation by

1:57:06by the United Kingdom. He during our, when our British and Barbara Rose kicked off our sheet, it was a liaison officer with the right, main security office and the Eastern populations, you know, the Muslim nations within, Muslim nationalities within the Soviet Union. And in that role with the right security main office of the SS, he made contact with the Grand Moofy Hajj, I mean, Hajj, I mean El Hussein, and this became a close friendship between the two men and it developed into a deep alliance. And El Rashid and the Grand Moofy, they began drawing up a plan.

1:58:09They believed there were there was two things happening here. This is one of the quagmire and the Balkans was emerging in earnest, you know, which which was remained a unmanageable first substantial portion of the war. So Rashid and the Grand Moofy, they believed that the ideal place to deploy a Muslim division would be in the Balkans, you know, and thus, Hajjar came about 13th SS. But additionally, Bosnia was the Muslim heartland within Europe,

1:59:10and again, let me talk about in the first episode, there's a prestige that attended that. And plus the ecumenical clout of the Grand Moofy Hajj Jerusalem, who's a very respected man, going to Syriyabo and addressing not just Bosnia-Ax but all Muslims and particularly those behind the wire fighting communism. This was very quickly said. A relative of the king of Egypt, king Farouk, a prince mensur, doud, El Rashid met him to the Moofy and mensur then began eating in these recruitment efforts and that

2:00:18that bolstered these propaganda efforts. And the resulting formation ultimately, Hajjar was the first and it was also Skanderburg, which was Albanian Muslims and Kama. But the true Pan-Islamic division-sized element was the Ostert-Waffen-Vibandar SS, Ostert-Waffen-Vibandar SS, Eastern Turkic SS Corps. And again, it was Turkman, it was Kazaaks, it was a Zerees, it was all the nationalities of the Soviet Union who were of the Muslim faith were represented. I'm going to time you got it.

2:01:21Okay. Now what's really interesting here is that the other sort of key personage in the Waffen-SS was Gottlob Burger. He was a Waffen-SS general as well as a higher SS and police leader. And he was responsible for the recruitment of non-Derman nationalities into the Waffen-SS. And he was impressed with what he saw from El-Rashid and the Moofy. And Burger decided that there had to be an effort to

2:02:26insinuate Chaplin's with a national socialist, ideological education into Islamic formations. So the position of military imam was first introduced in 1842. And again, the Zethepah has them Gottlob Burger. The command headquarters of the SS Eastern Turkish Division, they set up a what amount of doing imam training school. And it over saw religious practices. The four Muslim legions as they were designated. They assigned a Mullah, if the vision level,

2:03:38and imams and clerics down to platoon level. The overall legion Mullah was for the Azerbaijanian Legion, for example, was imam Pashaev. The Turkestan Legion, and it was Mullah, you know, Yatav, and so on down the line. And we joined the vision Mullahs. They were the equivalent of company commander. That's right, if you win your first $5 lineup, you'll get $150 in line-ups. On prize picks, you simply pick two to six players, pick more or less on their stat projections,

2:04:39and submit your lineup. Then, sweat it out as you watch your picks play out live. It's the best way to get more locked in on game day. Make all the picks you want. This football season, all in the same app. Also, prize picks is going crazy with the deals to start the football season, giving users a new promo every day during stack September. And now, prize picks is available nationwide. So, what are you waiting for? Lock in for kickoff, because everyone and everything is on prize picks. What you want? Download the app today and use code at large to get $150 in line-ups if you win your first $5 lineup. prize picks, run your game. And these were fighting men. One of the most famous of the e-mode, he was a Bosnian-e-ac named Haleem Malich. He held the Iron Cross and slew of other awards. These guys weren't just actors or standing propaganda elements.

2:05:48And it also, this is a level of religious formalized, religious hierarchy and institutionalization, which basically, there's something brilliant about it. That's not how Muslim armies were organized. It was really assimilating Islamic cultural coding into a very mocked model. And a lot of the recruits really took to that. There were some Muslim legions that were terrible and there were some that were absolutely savage. But this almost ecclesiastical structure that one would have found in the company in the 30 years war, for example,

2:06:48transpose to an Islamic cultural paradigm. Like when it worked, when the mention material constituting the company put 200 division in question, when it was game fighters and when it was mention material suitable for soldiery, it was a fantastic formula. It also, that did wonders for discipline in morale. It was just a question of spiritual counsel. It was a way to convey to these recruits that, this is a jihad against Bolshevism and Jewry and being a good national socialist and being a good Muslim or synonymous. And where those tendencies converge is in the person of the Islamic

2:07:55national socialist political soldier, exemplified by the imam, who was both a cleric and a warrior. And not just a commander in the path of jihad that we are on, but also a spiritual guide. The Ralph on a Hagen Dorf, who was a career a very mocked officer, and an expert in military jurisprudence. In May 1943, he issued a formal recommendation that in Muslim formations, before a course marshal assigns punishment to a defendant, there

2:09:03should be a consultation with the divisional mullah on the scope and severity of punishment to legitimize the military justice system. And this was huge too. Hagen Dorf recalled also that he said often, these imams, what they'd recommend was usually substantially more severe than what the secular coded German military justice in the very mocked and the wafen SS, otherwise demanded. So in practice, these imams acted as intermediaries with a European and Christian military justice that nevertheless abided Islamic principles in its punitive aspect. And this

2:10:09is a situated legitimacy into it, otherwise it would be lagging. Aaron, the same time, May 9, where you three got lab burger, he issued a formal decree from the main office. It was on the quote ideological, spiritual education of the Muslim SS divisions. And it formally identified imams as the most important transmitters of political and religious education within Muslim formations. It made clear that the emphasis was to be on the common enemies of Germans and Muslims. Judaism, quote Anglo-Americanism, communism, free masonry, secularism.

2:11:17And that these shared ideals, including militancy and the martial ethos, the role of morality, of tradition, of upright manliness. And all this is what brought together national socialists of different faiths, whether they be the Protestant Catholic or Muslim. And again, burger, the more I dive into, I was researching, it's a battle record in his career in the SS, going to a different, so a related but distinguishable subject matter. And he was just an amazing guy. You really only find footnotes about him as, oh, he was this big war criminal in this brute, or he's described, you know, in kind of similar

2:12:17terms, the Martin Boramon is just, oh, he was just a sort of cretinous function here. Not at all. And for a military man, he had a lot of deep esoteric interests. And I think the Bafanites as attracted those types, frankly, not just romantic and dreamers, but there was, Orientalism was literally coated into it. You know, I mean, that's why the proud and book on Genghis Khan was required reading at SS, a younger school. And of course, the Ock and Piper wrote his senior thesis on the Proud and Book in Genghis Khan. But I think it's Shoping hours in Orientalist. And I, you know, I'd show up on how I'm more than Nietzsche was

2:13:19the patron philosopher of the German right, I think. But we're coming up on the hour, man. I I hope people are finding this educational and interesting. And we'll wrap it up in the next episode if Promise. Awesome. Awesome. That's what I was going to ask if we, if you have another episode in those. And is, is that the up, are you going to be getting into post war? I'd like to post war. Okay. That sounds great. Yeah. I mean, it's your show, literally. Like, I mean, if you're admirable, that of the subs, the main thing is that you're happy and the subs are finding this interesting. And then I promise we'll get back to the 30 years war. The problem at all. I remind everybody go over to realtomus777.substack.com. Probably the best way to connect to Thomas. I can go to his website, Thomas777.com. The T and Thomas is a seven. And basically you can connect to

2:14:26him everywhere from there, from those places. It's a firm and thank you, Thomas. Appreciate you. Thank you, buddy. I want to welcome everyone back to the Pikenjöne show. Thomas is here. And this little meeting series, doing on Islam and the Third Reich and Germany in general. We're going to close that out today. So, you know, what we've heard from the subs is they're really enjoying this. So thank you for the recommendation on this. Great subject. I've learned a lot. And, take it away. Thank you. That makes me very happy. And I appreciate the subs and their kind words and feedback. That's essential. This is an important subject matter for a lot of reasons. I generally agree with Ernst and the old T. Islamic dialectics are very important. Show button here. Football season is finally back. And prize picks is bringing out their best offer yet. New users who sign up will

2:15:31get $150 in lineups if you win your first $5 lineup. That's right. If you win your first $5 lineup, you'll get $150 in lineups. On prize picks, you simply pick two to six players, pick more or less on their staff projections and submit your lineup. Then, sweat it out as you watch your picks play out live. It's the best way to get more locked in on game day. Make all the picks you want. This football season, all in the same app. Also, prize picks is going crazy with the deals to start the football season, giving users a new promo every day during stack September. And now, prize picks is available nationwide. So what are you waiting for? Lock in for kickoff because everyone and everything is on prize picks. What you want? Download the app today and use code at large to get $150 instantly in lineups if you win your first $5 lineup. Prize picks, run your game. To the post-Cold War historical process in conceptual terms, I don't think that needs to be said.

2:16:34Additionally, and I'm including this as sort of an adendum to my manuscript. That's one of the reasons I haven't submitted it for formal editing will publish your yet. There's this myth, some of which derives from the testimony of Albert Schbier, which I consider to be not remotely credible. Obviously, he described the final months of the German Reich as Hitler developing this sort of nihilistic apathy punctuated by fits of rage and an impulse to sort of burn everything down. Hitler's actions don't indicate that. And I've emphasized, I'm bringing this back to the subject matter. I'm not on a scene-elf-hand, I promise. I emphasize the fact of Donnett's being designated as successor. Not just because Hitler thought that he was a man,

2:17:41the allies, and find acceptable, and they did. Other than Yodel, he was really the only Nürburgring defendant that people in the United Kingdom, not just the Admiralty, but a lot of the aristocracy and even people in the war cabinet, he came to the defense of. But also, there was an understanding that the post-war world would need some sort of resistance legacy if Europe was going to survive and if the national socialist cause was going to survive, albeit in a historically contingent configuration. And that's a subject for a whole, we could do a whole series on that. And like I said, I'm dedicating the final third

2:18:44approximately of my manuscript to the subject matter. One of the only authors who I think truly understands that and who really understands that there was a fascist international of a sort during the Cold War and beyond is Kevin Kuggen. He wrote a biography of Francis Yaki, he called Dreamer of the Day, Francis Perfect Yaki in the Post-Worth Fascist International. This was released in 1999. It's actually a fantastic book. H.K. Thompson contributed to it and allowed his testimony to be included. Elsa DeVitt, who was a long time mistress of Francis Yaki, she participated in it and it had been offered a lot of her testimony as well as personal effects and papers that had belonged to Yaki and things. Kuggen is definitely a left-winger,

2:19:48but of a more serious type. And I mean the fact that some of these personages were going to participate in the book project speaks for itself. It's not a purely punitive treatment, but the real value of it, especially if you're reading it as a researcher, there's a couple hundred pages of footnotes and endnotes that are really incredible, including a substantial amount of material about Johann von Leer's, about Derwegg and the National Socialist Resistance in Argentina and then in the Near East. And I however, I remember that book, it's a student to the subject matter, or as well as people who are just curious students of history. You want to get a better understanding of the subject matter,

2:20:54but I raised Kuggen not just I like that book, but you know, again, he's one of the only authors I know of who has a deep understanding of this phenomenon. And the efforts particularly of the SS and the SD to curate a national socialist sensibility among Muslim populations, this ramped up in earnest in the final year and a half of the war. I wonder if it can clear that NCG was no longer possible. And it's not because everybody was delusional. It's not going to some desperation, born of manpower shortages or any of those confedulations. It was because at base and particularly in the Valken SS,

2:22:09the truly die hard national socialists who were ideologically committed, they had a profoundly haggalean view of the war and of the historical process generally. And of course, Germany was not a stranger to these sorts of apocalyptic conditions. We're talking about our 30 years war series, I think in the first episode. We were talking about a Hitler himself and Spears, speaking of Spear, as well as many personages within the traditional military establishment, as well as the national socialist cadre that took over the government. The historical polestar of these people was the 30 years war and the destruction of Germany,

2:23:09the destruction of the first Reich. And the scattering of the German racial organism to the proverbial four winds. And in their mind, it had taken centuries to reconstitute the German nation and to bring Europe into a organizational modality whereby it could fulfill its historical mission. And in their estimation, this had taken close to three centuries. So, there was an understanding that a similar process was emergent in 1944-45. And there was the added challenge of a world dominated by the communists and by the American Zionist occupation that was

2:24:17looming. Both of these challenges were related. That's why these ideological schema were quite literally allied. But they were also very distinguishable in terms of what they represented and what they were trying to accomplish in terms of creating a global political regime. And the tactics required to counteract those efforts to break people up there. Identitarian characteristics and historical memory were somewhat different depending on whether the population of the question or those situated in the east or in the west. And Muslim populations run a unique pressure from the communists.

2:25:20And this endured throughout the existence of the Soviet Union. The Islamic revolt was one of many proximate causes that ultimately brought the Soviet Union down. I think that's irrebutable. So, that's something that is important to understand here. And that's one of the reasons why this remains a relevant subject matter. It's not just some sort of trivial curiosity related to aspects of the war that are sort of not commonly emphasized. But the role of the grand move to change focus just a little bit.

2:26:26The way that he's cast in the historical record is somewhat incorrect. There's people with a superficial understanding of national socialism and there's some Palestinian liberation as to mean well. But they there's somewhat conceptually impoverished in their understanding of the historical record. They cast the move to as almost like a Palestinian nasser. That's not really accurate. I made a point that I believe if he can be analogized to any contemporary, it'd be side-coutive. And if you know anything about Islam, particularly high as Sunni Islam, the role of a move that is not that of a political soldier is different. There's definitely a partisan aspect that goes up saying.

2:27:32But the move also, he didn't have a sense of pan-Arabism. What became sort of the rallying cry of the resistance in the Near East, which is a combination of pan-Arabism and an East block aligned, but this but this certainly non-communist sort of militant socialism. That was not what he viewed as the way forward for Palestinians. And he was absolutely a pan-Islamist, but he didn't view pan-Arabism as a meaningful concept. And frankly, it's not. On the other side, Zionist then and now have tried to cast the move to as sort of a Palestinian

2:28:36Kodrian who are some sort of ethno-sectarian nationalism of themselves. Who wanted to annihilate Juri, going to some sort of a highly binary zero-sum concept of racial and sectarian struggle in the region. That's naked propaganda. When people in the Churchill government who are particularly sympathetic to Zionist perspective, try to convince the Home Office of these things, and when it's far trying to push the British authorities to try and capture the Al Husaini, this was quickly quashed.

2:29:39British intelligence simply refused to pursue it. And there was an internal memo that indicated that this was a propaganda effort that was never devised by Zionist on the ground who were concerned about a leadership cadre reconstituting among their enemies, which they'd pretty successfully decapitated by this juncture. Show button here. Football season is finally back. And prize picks is bringing out their best offer yet. New users who sign up will get $150 in lineups if you win your first $5 lineup. That's right, if you win your first $5 lineup, you'll get $150 in lineups. On prize picks, you simply pick two to six players, pick more or less on their staff projections, and submit your lineup. Then, sweat it out as you watch your picks play out live.

2:30:43It's the best way to get more locked in on game day. Make all the picks you want. This football season, all in the same app. Also, prize picks is going crazy with the deals to start the football season, giving users a new promo every day during stack September. And now, prize picks is available nationwide. So what are you waiting for? Lock in for kickoff because everyone and everything is on prize picks. What you want? Download the app today and use co-add large to get $150 in lineups if you win your first $5 lineup. Prize picks, run your game. And to be clear, the Moofy was an exile from 1936 on. We're going to the Arab Revolve. The Arab Revolve is complicated. I don't want to deep dive into that right now. Briefly, it was a general strike. It was an uprising. As more and more European Jews streamed into Palestine, it became clear that the Palestinians were going to be ethnically cleansed.

2:31:50And we talked about how the British were inconsistent in how they responded to ethno-sectarian violence. And you know, categorical attacks upon Palestinians to realize annihilation oriented goals by the Zionists. So this represented an existential fear. It wasn't just a question of resistance to Palestine being dominated by a hostile Jewish majority on the ground. There was an element among Palestinians under arms too that had always favored an armed struggle. And their reasoning was we've got to pull the trigger now before the situation deteriorates,

2:32:56the point that it's no longer possible. There was a pious islana's organization that was also highly militant, led by Eiz Al-Din Al-Khassam. He was a shak and something of a lesser aristocrat. It was also a dedicated revolutionary. And as early as the mid-1920s, he was demanding that money that was coming into mosques, the equivalent of alms, be spent on arms and military needs, rather than on proselytizing and traditional ecclesiastical activities and things of that nature,

2:33:56you know, the equivalent therein. This caused tension between him and Al Hussein. He'd approached Al Hussein and tried to cultivate his friendship and asked to be brought on to the Supreme Muslim Council as an itinerant preacher of sorts. And Hussein he turned him away but did help him find a permanent place and a mosque that would be more receptive to his revolutionary concepts. This is viewed as some people too, including, again, some Palestinian liberation as to mean well today as being perfectist and Al Hussein being politicalite. I don't think that's fair. And I was seeing he also knew that his people weren't in a position to win at that moment.

2:34:58He was continuing to try and curate a relationship with the British too. I had a necessity going to, again, the hopelessness of the military situation at that juncture. But as it happened in 1936, a general strike did kick off and once the uprising began, the move he stood with Palestine. He was very much accused, though, of fermenting this and being a leader of it. The British commanders on the ground who he'd curated a relationship with, I believe they talked to the foreign office and British intelligence. That's why the move he wasn't harmed. He was allowed to live in exile relatively undisturbed at that juncture because it was clear that he wasn't

2:36:06then devising a revolutionary resistance movement. He wasn't trying to force a kinetic outcome to then extend conditions. But this was when Al Hussein began approaching representatives of the Third Reich and he began approaching him. We talked about Gottlub Berder and elements within the both the Algemeine SS and in various party offices who viewed this as an imperative.

2:37:06And Al Hussein only met with Hitler face to face once in November 1941. But the fact that he met him at all is remarkable because it was not easy to gain access to Hitler. What he was able to procure Hitler guaranteed any convinced L. Duce to co-sign this guarantee that after the defeat of the British Empire, Palestine would become an Arab state and it would be ethnically cleansed of Jews. Whether the move D you would become the ruler of that state. I find that unlikely. Again, it's complicated how traditional Islamic authority is organized.

2:38:08To be clear, people have this misconception because first of all, they're looking to place like Iran. And of course, there's a sectarian divide there because she and Sunni are very different. And even within those broad sects, there's differences within Sunni Islam and she is Islam that are profound. The Iranian government called itself the revolutionary government because it's not this reactionary regime. The Foucault, one of the few essays he wrote that oriented towards ideological praxis that in a direct capacity, he went to Iran as the revolution was underway. And he made the point that this was something people hadn't seen before. It wasn't some reactionary

2:39:09regime of clerics. It was very much an Islamic movement but it was a hybrid ideology that was a truly third positionist tendency in the true sense. Okay, Al-Husseini didn't represent some Sunni variant of that. And also, once what became the Palestinian liberation movement is proverbial DNAs in the Arab world and in the men who they took inspiration from it. And the move he wasn't really part of that. He definitely was a partisan and he took on a function of a political soldier as he became insinuated into the SS organization. But military command and

2:40:18political credibility became an extrabably bound up in theater. And that some of that adhered to this day. But you know, it's not this idea that the move he simply approached Hitler because he had ambitions to become emperor of Palestine or the boss of the Arab committee or something. And I wanted to parlay that into authority over a Palestinian ethno state that was going to emerge at NC guy. That only gets credible. What was important was that he got a guarantee from Hitler. He had the patronage of the axis. And show blood in here. Football season is finally back. And

2:41:22prize picks is bringing out their best offer yet. New users who sign up will get $150 in line-ups if you win your first $5 lineup. That's right. If you win your first $5 lineup, you'll get $150 in line-ups. On prize picks, you simply pick two to six players, pick more or less on their staff projections and submit your lineup. Then sweat it out as you watch your picks play out live. It's the best way to get more locked in on game day. Make all the picks you want. This football season, all in the same app. Also, prize picks is going crazy with the deals to start the football season. Giving users a new promo every day during stack September. And now, prize picks is available nationwide. So what are you waiting for? Lock in for kickoff because everyone and everything is on prize picks. What you want? Download the app today and use Co-Ad large to get $150 in line-ups if you win your first $5 lineup. Prize picks, run your game. The guarantee that forces that we brought to bear and Hitler made clear to him,

2:42:24the city believed in the Arab people and he believed in the scene he's caused, which I think was true. But he also said that the German Reich had essential interests in the region and they expected the Palestinians to help those things be realized. So obviously, it was a real politic aspect to this too. But both men came to realize also that this had become a planetary struggle. By November 1941, America was in, I mean, American defect was at word Germany from September 1941 onwards. The Reich was, the Vermacht was closing it on Moscow and it became clear that

2:43:34the struggle was global in character and even after final victory was realized, which appeared to be imminent as in November 1941, no Germany needed allies in newly liberated, formally colonial spaces. But there was also a basic affinity and that's coded into national socialism. The theory of influence is like Schopenhauer and things and the German character generally. Hitler wasn't some Orientalist like von Leer's but I think it's clear to all but the most literal and binary minds when I'm getting it. And towards that,

2:44:34I mentioned before about Obergruppenfieler and Gennahal Dvoffenessess Gottlau Berger, who I think was a fascinating individual and he was a key personage in forcing the through policies within the SS relating to the alliance with not just the Palestinians and Al Husini but with the Islamic nationalities in the East. He clarified, Berger said, and in paraphrasing, the relationship between Islam and national socialism, there's a vocish imperative but what is not intended is a synthesis. He said, quote,

2:45:41it is not intended to find a synthesis of Islam and national socialism or to impose national socialism on the Muslims. Rather, national socialism is to be seen as the genuine focus German worldview. Well Islam is to be seen as the genuine focus Arabic worldview. He was using Arabic as a stand-in for I mean obviously the land of the prophet and the Arabic language and Mohammed himself means that Arab cultural forms have an outsized significance in Islam. He was using Arabic in the Arabic rule of UNIS Bengali sense to include, you know, in most of the Islamic elements under the right authority where we're not Arab. And again, there was this emphasis on

2:46:43Syriabal and specifically in Bosnia as the as the heartland of European Islam. And thus they were to be given priority and Berger emphasized that and mind you Berger was he was second only to the right sphere SS himler in his rank. He had a rank equivalent to Paul Howzer and Sep deetrik. So he his word was law within the organization. And he clarified that the Muslims, the Balkans were racially part of the Germanic world. Well, ideologically and spiritually part of the Arab world. So he said among other things

2:47:46these Balkan Muslim peoples they represent, you know, what the complimentary aspects are of this alliance and this unity of velthenshung against communism and jubilee. And he continued by saying through the deployment of a Muslim SS division, speaking of the Bosnian ex here, they're made here by for the first time the established a connection between Islam and national socialism, a rather between the Arab and the Germanic world and an open honest basis. Is this division in terms of blood and race is influenced by the north in terms of ideology and contrast by the orient? I think I got into in the last episode I tried to clarify by reference to my outlines what I covered. So stop me if I'm being redundant. But in 1944

2:48:56the SS head office at the Hest of Burger, they established two Islamic centers for religious education. The first one which I think I got into a bit was open in April 1944. It was in a small town called Gubin in Brandenburg. This was this was the E-MOM institute and we talked about E-MOMs and the Bafan SS and the important role they played at not just the divisional level but at company and even platoon level. And this Al Husini himself attended a ceremony with the Gatla burger and an E-MOM named Hussein Dezoso who was a Bosnian. More significant particularly to the subject matter that I started this

2:50:06discussion with was always cloak really called the SS Mullah School. It didn't formally it wasn't formally established until November 44 and once again there was inauguration ceremony tailored to celebrate it up the size of Germanic Muslim Alliance. The opening speech was offered by Walter Schellenberg and the end of the subject was interesting because again it seemed very much coded towards a post war world and proceeding under hostile occupation without without resuding the language that

2:51:16suggested what in the national socialist ideological culture would be looked upon pejorative ways to feedism but the crux of Schellenberg's speech was the historical associations, the traditional bonds between the Kaiserreich and Darul Islam, the longstanding support for Muslim peoples who were besieged by Jewish tyranny and it emphasized to that the Soviet Union by its very existence represented a so not just on

2:52:19on focus ways of life but on all confessional practices and cultural expressions for among them Islam and Schellenberg specifically said that the focus core of Russia had been destroyed for all practical purposes and totally derasinated and that the non-Russian people under occupation and on the periphery of the Soviet Empire were similarly being targeted for destruction and their fate would be the same as that of the Russians if an effective resistance

2:53:24was not cultivated and the only way that that could be realized is by the dual commitment of territorial hygiene and confessional piousness and in this respect Schellenberg said Islam was the quote custodian of the eastern people and their biological substance as well as their confessional heritage in linear terms back to the time of the prophet and you concluded by saying that because the Bolsheviks' electricians of the past they're not long for this earth but that Muslims are able to cope with the future no matter what hardships emerge because not just to the racial purity of the several populations who are very

2:54:26tribally branded who constituted the eastern Muslims but that basically their faith would carry them through the historical destruction of Bolshevism and the racially impure or intermention who are the standard bears of the Bolshevik ideology who are really just the vestigial remnants of the the Russian racial core that died in the Soviet death camps it's very very heavy stuff not not typical just sort of grab bag propaganda you know and this is important and the the Mola school it was it was far larger than the Imam school it was based at the Zavilla and this affluent neighborhood outside of Dresden there was this victor

2:55:34Clemper he was this Jewish writer who curiously you know didn't get like shot into space or something by the Nazi Holocaust but he was a lot of people I think including Shire William Shire wrote a very silly book that a lot of court historians hold out as some great treatment of the Third Reich of course Shire pulled it there was a rise in fall of the Third Reich and there was the nightmare years that's an objective and not at all a sterical title for history book but Victor Clemper he he kept diaries and he documented his observations on various things they really like to keep diaries don't they yeah well they'd be fair that was something people did in those days I mean I'm talking actual people not fictitious diaries of you know girls who wrote like Judy Bloom books that were marketed for like 1970s junior high students um you know most

2:56:41the I mean gurbos was especially prolific but um yodel kept the diary so did Kitele so did Rosenberg Alfred Rosenberg so did uh Erhard Milch do it now I I take your point but Clemper's diary I by believe was real and he noted he was observing uh obviously from without the you know what was going on in this old but rather stately property which I believe is a repurposed hotel in Blasphitz this neighborhood of Dresden and he said there was a quote mysterious mausoleum study group there this a few were not relate but I uh what I read that uh I just I had this funny image of this like little

2:57:42nebbush dude like kicking out at uh at these like SS posp x going on going on this coffee told it and say was only what's what's going on I don't know maybe uh I am from the silly silly kind of shit like that but uh moving on um it uh it can't uh something that something you can't you can't you can't chalk this up to some sort of um you know effort uh corral um hapless p o w using the front line service or something to flesh out the ranks of devastated divisions and battalions you know the people suggest that sort of thing don't

2:58:48know the the subject matter um and there was a a uh a guy named Rainer Olsaccha Olsaccha he was assigned to set things up in the mullet school and uh make it culturally compliant with the students would be attending it so Olsaccha Olsaccha he decked out the interior of the building in ways that reflected Islamic architectural styles the main entrance hall was decorated with mosaic patterns specifically after mosques and central Asia there was a lot of you know Islamic artifacts

2:59:51unloan from museums in the greater German Reich there was a caranic verses and calligraphy painted into the walls there was a prayer niche and one of the main assembly areas there was a anoronate prayer hall which was sort of the center of uh activity on the ground floor you know and um so I mean the SS went out of their way uh create a an authentically Islamic environment and um they went as far as uh to hire Kurt Erdman he was the foremost expert on Islamic culture

3:00:58in art history and the Oriental Department of the Pergamon Museum in Berlin and he consulted with architects from Berlin in Dresden to mock this up and it took half a year you know there was a great library it had Islamic authentic Islamic texts from France from Bosnia from the Netherlands including rare ancient um texts that have been purchased in Syriable around this time anybody no matter their any uh any folks thutch or any any any non Jewish Auslander could obtain a free Quran from the propaganda ministry just by asking for one

3:02:02there weren't a lot of Quran that have been properly translated into German so an effort was made to remedy that by the propaganda ministry and one of the reasons for these efforts was the SS wanted to attract top religious scholars and uh e-moms to teach at the school but also to attend it for political education and and military education in within the SS model and reading between the lines you know again this is the last year of the war under desperate conditions they were looking to build cadres they were looking to build dedicated national socialist cadres

3:03:06within these populations for a post-war world you know i that should be clear to anybody who understands what they're looking at metaphorically speaking i think um al-Mjohn Idris or Idris he was uh coveted as director of the moly school but he was still in the service the propaganda ministry as well as the foreign office and he was the top man in charge of propaganda in the Islamic world and neither the foreign office nor the nor gurbals would let him go

3:04:07you know and again this they were emphasizing the propaganda aspect in theater and in Palestine as well as in among the nationalities and in the Soviet Union and uh a course in in Bosnia but the Bosnia again they they were they were racial Europeans and most of them were multi-lingual just because they were they lived you know and they had a privileged position within within the the rike so it was it would have been redundant to make them the the the focus group of these efforts if you follow me but uh nevertheless ultimately the propaganda ministry they let Idris

3:05:08preside over the moly school three days a week um he was young comparatively charismatic he was very modern and had western habits he had a great admiration for the European culture and he has simulated very well in the Germany culturally but he was also a very very con uh dedicated Muslim he was kind of viewed as the model um Muslim national socialist um he had a son who uh worked as an interpreter and then ultimately joined uh the Eastern Muslim SS Corps in the final year of the war and that obviously was I mean I anybody who joined that late in the game knew there's a good chance

3:06:14they were coming home I mean he he was a dedicated he was kind of did you hide but he this also was something of a propaganda coup you know look this wealthy mullahs offering up his son to fight for the rike it's no small thing obviously you know and the um and the SS uh uh it's just that I'm only employing Muslims as teachers in the moly school in contrast to the vermoct and in contrast to other party institutions that dealt with the education and and put it into an act of the nation of Muslim peoples the SS took this very seriously

3:07:22you know and that um that tracks with its overall orientation you know the it's a fascinating sort of um um aspect to the rikes relationship to Romania you know Hitler uh Antonetsky when Hitler were very close and Antonetsky away was probably the fears best ally and I mean Romania sacrificed tremendously for the axis cause and also the fact that they when Stalin began World War II with his war conquest obviously Romania was very much in the crosshairs of of Moscow so there was an existential

3:08:25imperative as to why they'd welcome the vermoct deploying its scale layer but also obviously Antonetsky not only to commit close to a quarter million men the barbarosa but he availed Romania as a staging ground for a huge component of uh rike forces and being in operational terms but later you know Antonetsky he presided over the brief national legionary state and then he banned the iron guard owing to what he viewed as their revolutionary subversion this was in the aftermath of this is when SEMA had um succeeded kodrian who'd been murdered but the ss famously

3:09:26they backed the iron guard against kodrian who the fear himself you know unconditionally backed kodrian who at that there was an ss ideology into itself which was very pan European very revolutionary very very different not just from the vermoct and traditional german society and even traditional German military culture but distinguishable from the mainstream of the nsdhp as well and i find it fascinating but to bring it back to the subject of the hand one thing that the mullet school emphasized and this is another reason why they insisted on and mazlin teachers exclusively the theological program it was very oriented towards

3:10:26overcoming sectarian hostilities and in the ss try to prioritize bridging the divide between Sunnis and Shiites there's a constant emphasis against religious sectarianism among mazlums you know and traditionally in um in vermoct units where uh traditionally um she and Sunnis were were segregated um and the ss were not only refused to do that but they pursued an anti-sectarian line and the the emphasis again was that the schism was contrived by men who coveted worldly power

3:11:39after the center of the prophet the heaven and that the current struggle where the the dual threat and existential terms to the Islamic faith and to the race of the uh nationalities and populations that constituted Darul Islam that calls for a healing of the schism even where it not a contrived and promised unworldly and thus yes axiomatically corrupt the ambitions

3:12:43you know and um again the implication in my opinion is obvious it's you know we the a political soldier looking ahead circa 1944-45 needs to adopt as his primary concern the the the racial survival of his people and and the continuity of his faith on this planet you know in in the face of the dual assault of of Zionism and communism and we'll we'll stop it there i hope this wasn't i hope people got something out of this i mean i presume they did because people have been very

3:13:43nice um in their feedback no i mean if anything i would like to hear more people not talk about islam like they're a boomer right after 9-11 well yeah i mean they're they're idiots that's one of the reasons uh i mean they're we we we've got islamic comrades who are great but beyond that you know i don't what does anyone people whip off at me about rule or two or about the law it's like oh you're the expert you know how i like you we watch a lot of you watch a lot of tv you watch a cable legacy media so you're an islam expert i mean i that's why that's why i emphasize these topics because even in supposedly decoding spaces these people are conceptual illiterates by and large but you can't um the funerals i'm trying to get more more guys who

3:14:52have a a theological expertise or their background is you know in in um bible christianity or catholicism or orthodoxy or islam because that's i mean at the end of the day i mean i like like we've talked about it's i'm more a a capital T radical tradition was that i am anything probably i mean you're talking about like my political philosophy you know i'm an identifies a yaki it's national socialist but what the uh it's renegino on it's mercia leody julie's evela that's a substantial part of my my cannon if you're on order like that okay and there's this kind of dummy anti-neutralism um this just hostile to to theology and religion you know you that i mean that that's common to any

3:16:02epoch really you know um even people i've already had a point with some of our orthodox friends with number of catholic friends who view the medieval era as a period of high culture that's unduly maligned which is absolutely true casting the middle ages is is a sort of hellish time of cultural poverty i mean this ridiculous i mean i don't know how any i don't know how any angle from a person i think that way anyway i mean i are theory and lore and the ulster cycle if there's somebody like me that's like i'm one of the king james bible you know i can like i and that that that comes out of the horrifying medieval era you know but beyond that i think some people they kind of view with the rules called glasses they this idea oh well then there's this there's this integrated concept you know that they mean in terms of the tri-functional hypothesis but they mean that religious life informed every day sensibilities and

3:17:08there's somewhat true but i think it was i think most people and not about class this this this doesn't know class in terms of where these sensibilities are concentrated but i think most people even then it was a very kind of superficial thing you know um people are gonna look at scant that you if you take religion seriously and you want to emphasize it as the subject matter that it is is your sort of the topical focus you know um but yeah i people like that are that i don't know i mean i i uh i've had to get adventuated tuning out ignorant people because they're all around me and they're all really noisy they're uh i don't know you know

3:18:10and i'm not here to educate morons and i'm not i'm not here to like listen to assholes lip off on things they don't know about so i just though i know already a people we want to talk about serious stuff i think like new fucking kids i mean it you know those the people i want to react with all right everybody go over to tomas the sub stack real tomas777.substack.com and check out his website tomas777.com the t is a seven and you can hook up with him uh from there thank you tomas appreciate it thank you man