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Since last July, the Trump administration has been sending all pregnant, unaccompanied
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minors apprehended by immigration enforcement to a single-group shelter in South Texas.
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Some of the administration's own child welfare officials objected this policy, saying the
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facility lacks specialized care the girls need.
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I spoke yesterday to Mark Betancourt, a journalist who spent six months reporting to break this
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story for both the California Newsroom and the Texas Newsroom, which are collaborations
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of public media news outlets.
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Thanks for being here.
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Thanks for having me on there.
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Let's start with the girls.
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Tell us a little bit about who we're talking about, how old are they, where are they from,
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and how do they come into the U.S. government custody.
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So most of the time, what happens is that when kids cross the border unaccompanied, which
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means they're not with a parent or guardian, they are transferred from customs and border
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protection to ORR care, which is the Office of Refugee Resettlement.
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It's under the Department of Health and Human Services.
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They basically then distribute them among shelters throughout the country to hold them until
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they can be released to their sponsors, which are often family members.
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So the goal is to actually hold them for as little time as possible so that they can
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then be released while the sponsors are vetted.
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So when pregnant girls are brought in, these are kids who are under 18, so they're all
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in the U.S., they would normally be placed in places that have medical facilities nearby
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and trained staff who can handle what are often complicated pregnancies.
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So that's what is normally supposed to happen under this process.
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Some of the girls you reported are as young as 13.
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Many of them have been assaulted, raped on the journey that they're making to the U.S.
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These girls are between 13 and 17 are my source within ORR, or are said that about half
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of them were probably pregnant as a result of rape.
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So that is obviously a big concern.
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These girls have been through pretty traumatic experiences.
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In some cases, they were raped on the journey or in their home countries before they came
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here, and that's how they became pregnant.
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But a lot of times they're also apprehended by ICE in the interior of the country and separated
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from their families.
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So while we don't know the exact situations of the girls who have been placed at the shelter
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now, that is definitely a concern, and the trauma they've been through further complicates
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So you're reporting it's based on conversations you had with the number of people who are
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currently officials inside this agency.
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Why did they decide to speak to you?
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What concerns did they share?
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So they decided to speak to me because I think they were concerned that it's not safe
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for these girls to be placed here.
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Their primary concern was that they have heard from experts within, or are the Office
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of Refugee Resettlement, that this shelter is not set up to handle the complicated pregnancies
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And also that the region that the shelter is in, the South Texas Rio Grande Valley, has
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limited health care, has limited obstetric care, and so especially in emergencies, it could
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be really difficult to get these kids the care that they need depending on what could happen
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with their pregnancies.
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So the ORR officials who spoke to me were really concerned, feeling like they needed to speak
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up, given that there didn't seem to be a response from leadership within the organization.
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We did reach out to HHS, which oversees ORR, the agency responsible here, to ask them
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about the report and request comment, a couple of key points from their statement.
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They say to be clear, we do not send all pregnant and accompanied minors there to this facility,
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there are others at other facilities as well.
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And they also say that they make those placements based on child welfare best practices, they
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say each child is placed in a setting that meets their medical developmental and safety needs.
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Does that line up with your sources in your reporting?
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That's not at all what my sources within ORR said.
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In fact, they made a point of saying that ORR's mission is child welfare.
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It is designed to be first and foremost for the best interests of the child.
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And they said that's the opposite of, this is with the opposite of what you would do
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if that was your mission.
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You wouldn't send them to somewhere where they couldn't get the right care, especially
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if people within the organization were telling you not to do this.
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But to their point of what they're saying about the fact that not all girls are being
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sent there, my understanding is that the directive is that all the new intakes, girls
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who are entering ORR care for the first time, as long as ORR knows that they're pregnant,
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they are still being sent there, that directive still stands according to people within ORR.
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There's another aspect of this you include in your reporting.
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You spoke with advocates who say this is a deliberate policy to shift them to Texas specifically
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to avoid access to abortion care or abortion services if the girls wanted them.
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Why do they think that and did you find proof of that?
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So we couldn't find sort of direct evidence documentation of that having been the reason
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But current and former OR officials who know this system very, very well said they couldn't
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think of any other reason.
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Also, the first Trump administration tried to do exactly this, tried to prevent girls
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from being able to get abortion while they're in ORR care.
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And so it seems to be just a continuation of that policy.
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This is exactly what some of the officials I talked to expected, given the first Trump
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administration's behavior.
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And now, of course, post-dobs now that Roe v. Wei is no longer an obstruction to that,
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it is legally a lot more possible for them to restrict the access to abortion under the
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And folks can, of course, read your full reporting online.
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Mark Bettencourt for the California Newsroom and the Texas Newsroom.
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Thank you for being here.
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Thanks so much for having me.