
Premier League or Champions League, What Should Arsenal Prioritise?
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and time that he found it easier. And when you give Yoko as a minute, I mean, he's a world class finisher. I think my problem is the reason why Martinelli has disappeared, the reason why, you know, son, other players like, I mean, I don't know, now trying to think of names. But let's talk about Martinelli. The reason why Martinelli has not asked that anymore is because Martinelli offered something in the Champions League. But he couldn't offer anything in the Premier League. Apart from one gold contribution, I believe. And I think that applies to Vittiocares too. You know, Arsenal are going to play so many games if things go the way we want them to this year. They can't carry anybody. They can't carry people who can only work in certain game states. And I do think it's fair to make the point that Arsenal's game perhaps isn't tailored anymore. So yeah, Martinelli, six golds in the Champions League, one in the Premier League. So that tells you a lot, I think.
And then obviously he's got golds in the FA Cup. Looking at that now, 11 golds for a winner you're thinking, you know, that's all right. I'm pretty sure that's a lot more than soccer. But obviously Martinelli was fit for the majority of the season. But I think the point about Yoko Rez and the thing that we all find frustrating and Firdoo Chiamin, anybody else in the comments Chiamin, I think the thing that's frustrating about him is that he doesn't apply, you know, to many contexts that aren't. Many contexts in which I think he makes Arsenal better. In fact, most of the time I think he makes Arsenal worse because he takes away Arsenal's ability to control games with the ball. And we watched, oh my god, guys, the end of the Chelsea game last season. And the end of the Chelsea game this season at the Emirates, it was night and day because you play the ball up to Victor Yoko Rez and it bounces back. You play the ball to Kai Hadlet and it sticks. It's just, I think that's basically the difference. And Arsenal, as much as they've proven, you basically can in the title without controlling the ball
by controlling the ball just enough, particularly when you could gain more of an advantage on set plays. I'm not sure I think that's a sustainable model and I'm not sure that that's a sustainable model to win in the Champions League. And I think Arsenal can and should have ambitions of doing that. More comments, you've gone at 1886, Rocky, you're crested well in the second half of the season in the Premier League. I didn't know at times when he looked capable. I don't think he had his worst game, for example. In Naples last night, he had that Traveller moment where Saka then did a bicycle kick and it was on target but never going in. He, there was a moment where David Raya pinged the ball up to him and it kind of skimmed off the turf and he controlled it. But the bar is so low for Yoko Rez, guys, because you're just desperate for him to hold onto the ball. Kai Hadlet's play makes from the number nine position. Yoko Rez could never do that, never does that. Alex on James says I really think that Arta, it doesn't rate Yoko Rez at all.
I think you may be right there. But Barney Bernardo says, Martin, he forgot he was a winger and stopped trying to take people on, just became a runner into space. You know, I think that that's true. I don't think you had the skills to take people on. I think that's why he's not at the Arsenal, even more. I think Martinelli's technical level was not good enough. And I would absolutely say the same about Victor Yoko Rez. And I think arguably, Martinelli has someone who offered you more across a wide range of of game states. Oh, guys, we've got a visitor here. You're not seeing double. Lola has popped in to say hello. Lola, are you going to share? Okay, she's going to get a chair. So guys, any questions you have for Lola, I know this has been quite an Arsenal heavy stream. Before the season, even Kix off soccer fans are already making predictions. Who wins the league? Who qualifies for Europe? And who's lifting the trophy at season's end? On Kalshi America's number one prediction market platform, you're trading against peers in a live market,
meaning there's no house. And as the probability changes, you can buy in and out of your position. For a limited time, download the Kalshi app and use code CUP26 to get $10 when you trade 10. KALSHI, Kalshi, trade the beautiful game. 18 plus only restrictions and eligibility requirements apply. Event contract trading at Volsriss can may not be suitable for all investors. Rises, values and available markets may differ from those mentioned. For more information, see Kalshi.com slash regulatory. Nationwide is so much more than a great insurance company. They're one of America's largest financial services companies, just like I'm so much more than quarterback Peyton Manning. I'm also Peyton Manning. Insurance and financial services together? It's a masterpiece. Peyton Manning does it again. For your insurance and financial needs, Nationwide is on your side. Nationwide Investment Services Corporation, Ember Finrick, Columbus, Ohio. She's not going to be happy. We're talking about Kai Havards and Victor Yorkehres. Hi, Miss Chia.
Oh my gosh, she's on a very strange chair. So Lola's joined the stream. Everybody's saying hi to Lola. I'm Bonnie Benardos. Bonnie Benardos here. Bonnie's and deselect has been here. And Alex Under James is here. Ray, alongside a cast of lovely Arsenal related people who you may not have met. Bonnie Benardos says, oh, it's the Liverpool sister. I know, right? She's here to torment me. But Lola, I'll put this to you. Oh, Bonnie says, hey, Lola. We're talking about this comment from from Fidu Talks football. About the kind of differences and the pitfalls of Kai Havards and Victor Yorkehres. And Fidu says, I think it's simply that Kai Havards starts the majority of matches, but there will be situations where Yorkehres's profile could get you what you need. Get us what we need. I want to know from the outside. You've made jokes to me about Timberlands. I want to know what you think of Kai Havards, what you think of Victor Yorkehres.
And is there an analogy in the Liverpool team? I think Yorkehres is such a funny one because he scored 14 goals last time. 21. 14 in the Premier League. I think we actually just had his stats up as other than. Which is not a bad return. And he did effectively what he was brought into do, which was score against the bottom half of the league. He played a lot of minutes. He scored some important goals. So in some way, I'd ask no one to leave. So in some way, as Victor Yorkehres was signing was a big success. I think the problem with Yorkehres is he added something last season in the sense that Havards was injured a lot and he played a lot of minutes. He's not better than Kai Havards. Kai Havards is a lovely player. He's a bit, the criticism of him, but it's also positive is that he falls between two stools, really. He's not one position. And I could see that a lot in Liverpool's squad of the member with Florian Bits. Where do you actually play?
And I think he's a really nice player to have. And certainly someone that you'd enjoy having plus part of the attacking unit. I don't see massive similarities with Firmino because Firmino wasn't as physical as Havards. Havards is really physical and can genuinely make a difference in terms of like long balls and crosses and set pieces. Yeah, and that's one of Kai Havards's super strength is that he's a technical player, but he's six foot. Yeah, I think the problem with both of them is Havards would be great if you had Nalvares. He'd be great because you've got a goal scorer, a real, you know, 10 out of 10 superstar. And then you kind of just say to Sava, Havards go and do what you do. Like the pressure on you isn't to score goals, just go and be an absolute nuisance, facilitate and help everyone. You can play them together. You can rotate them. I think the problem with Yokores is he's sort of being asked to do the same things that Havards does, but he can't because you're so... I don't think Arsenal are set up to play to Yokores at all, which is strange considering that Yokores was someone who, you know, the Arsenal higher off, he signed off on getting.
Yeah, you know, it's really odd. Arsenal don't have a game that suits him. He can't hold the ball up. He wants to run into space and receive pass. I think he often doesn't, he isn't spotted or like, you know, also isn't trusted. But I think that comes back to the Andrea Bertha thing at Arsenal, which is that I think Arsenal generally were quite set on Cesco and Andrea Bertha had relationships around Yokores and a preference for Yokores and we signed him, which doesn't quite tally. Can I flip the script and ask you, scholar? Genuine question, and I'm not shit housing here because it's more about where Yokores's career goes now after Arsenal because it's clear he's probably not going to be asked to be on this season. Out of the big six, where does he go and does he start? I don't see a bit of it to Yokores belong in the big six in the Premier League because I don't think, I mean, maybe Chelsea, you know, because in a way they play a brand of football that suits him, you know, arguably suits him more because, you know, they want to move the ball, they want to progress the ball quickly.
But I feel like the way Chelsea work relies so much on the fact that Jal Pedro is really good at holding the ball up and really, he's physical but he's really dexterous. Like he's really, it sticks to him and he can get out of trouble. Yokores can't get out of trouble. I think where I really saw Yokores was somewhere like that, that's going to do it. Because I hold the ball up. But I just think if you get, like we saw it in Europe last season, I think Yokores does have strength. He is an elite finisher and if you give him just that tiny European space, he will go and score goals we know he will. Do you know where I think you'd be brilliant? Well, number one, Bayern, because when, when you casually watch the Bundesliga, how much space in terms of their bicomparecin, and number two, and I think this will surprise you because of the extent to which they're footballing team, but Barcelona. I mean, I just like, like Yokores wants to be, I know he likes to run into space, but the best thing for Yokores and the thing they did for him, sporting in terms of platforming him correctly,
was giving him high-extra chances constantly. I suppose I asked, just because of being a Premier League team, not just about how you attack, although how you attack is through Sakata mainly. I think it's not, you know, you have to work for sweat for every opportunity, whereas I could just imagine him in the Bundesliga, he's a big guy, he can look after himself physically, he can get an extra yard, he has an extra beat on the ball. I could see him farming, like absolutely farming. But I also think it's about style, like, you know, many people have described Arsenal's attack as kind of cannons rolling into position. Why do you have to say these gun burgers and cannons? And then firing into the box, and you can kind of imagine it, you know, when you guys, Arsenal fans, any printing fans, you watch Arsenal attack, they, you know, they come in this horseshoe and the full backs, or Barcelona to go on park at the corner of the box. And it's because they're setting their rest offence, right? Because Arsenal always want to attack from a platform of security, which to be fair, I think they've done a little bit less so far this season, based on the early evidence,
but also it could just because they have worse defenders playing. But that doesn't suit Viteokra as in the slightest, because Viteokra needs separation to achieve anything. So you could imagine him doing really well in like a man United side, for example, who break a lot. Okay, we're going to come to some questions. We should just mention Alex and James's comment. I would love to see Yoke Res and Darwin in us in the same team. But Alex and James, I think we're going to be surprised, Scarlett, you like Darwin. Yeah, I think Darwin has a touch of the Nick Jackson's. He's a player who like probably, he's an analyst's stream, because they're players who generate so much danger and chaos, which is really valuable to a team. But ultimately, how much of that is valuable if you don't deliver on it. And I think it's a little, it's not the same, but it's a little bit the debate between Havats and Yoke Res, because Havats' strengths are what he gives to the game and to the team, and to the general creativity and ability in the team, not necessarily the final action.
So I think never a different place. I think Darwin's talented. I think it's a shame I do. I think Darwin's issue is up here. Nationwide is so much more than a great insurance company. They're one of America's largest financial services companies, just like I'm so much more than quarterback Peyton Manning. I'm also Peyton Manning. Insurance and financial services together, it's a masterpiece. Peyton Manning does it again. For your insurance and financial needs, nationwide is on your side. Nationwide investment services corporation, Ember Finrick, Columbus, Ohio. There is so much NFL on ESPN right now. Monday night football, plus pregame and postgame. NFL live, NFL prime time. Everything you need to stay on top of every game, every week. Unbelievable. And now NFL network is on the ESPN app. More football, more coverage, more ways to watch footballs on all season long on ESPN and streaming on the ESPN app.
I agree. I'm joining up to those questions. Yeah, so we've got some questions. I just saw an amusing one. We've got to pick this up from Ghana 1886 Rocky. That is incredibly harsh. There is no one that you know what Ghana 1886 Rocky, not even Calum Changers is worse than the rest of the whole day. No, Rob Holding blocked up Diego Costa in the Cup final. So he'll always have a place to ask them. Right. Jim McMillan has a question via adjusting robots and not sure how this is working. What would Arsenal fans prefer the Premier League, or the Champions League this year? Guys, I put this to you in the comments. What do you think? My personal feeling is that I'm very aware of the fact that like the one place left for rival fans to tease us is with a picture of that Gabrielle penalty, which the Chelsea fans were parading around on the weekend. And I thought that was a little sad. I thought they're in a flatable Champions League trophies. We're a little ironic considering it was
Kai Havards who gave them those trophies. I don't know if it is ironic because he did give them the trophy. I know that they they they despise Havards. I mean, their whole like stick is that they think Havards is like the worst player ever and they just don't understand. So I suppose from a kind of teasing perspective, it would be really nice to take the European monkey off our backs. But in terms of what I think would be the greatest sporting achievement to me, it would be retaining the Premier League because of how hard that is and because of what that says about where your project is. What do you think, Molo? Well, it's difficult because we won the Premier League recently and it's an amazing feeling and it's a body of work over 38 games and it's the ultimate validation of your level as a team. But as a Liverpool fan, I think the moment that that pressure is momentarily released, all I think about is the Champions League and the Champions League somehow, even as you soften and this will happen to you, as the kind of wounds of losing a final
scab over and heal, you will start to really fondly remember all the things that happened a long way. And I think there's just a magic to traveling around Europe and following your team and I think Champions League is so special for us. You know, I was feeling a version of this today because I was thinking about I was speaking actually, Arsenal fans will be familiar with this Lola. I think you asked me with this through me. I spoke to one of the guys who was responsible for the T-fo in the North Bank for the North London Derby and he was also responsible for the displays in the Champions League final in the League Cup and I told him today that I held up part of the clock at the top of that design, Lola's holding in her disdain and her laughter. But it just struck me in that moment, like not necessarily the clock or whatever the display in particular, but just wow, like wow, I was there in Budapest to watch my team and it was kind of awful, but it was also kind of amazing. You had a terrible time there. I mean, there is another character, guys,
that you are yet to meet on these live streams. Let's just say he wasn't at his best after the Champions League final, but then, you know, which Arsenal fans? Suffering from our few health issues. Rob G, we've got to say hi to you, Justin Lateness's greatness. No, I want you in from the start. This is not the standard for G. Well, the good news guys, Scarlett, there is more content to come from Scarlett tonight on NewsRound. So do look out for that. That will be published just after 10 o'clock. So definitely stick with her and give us some love on NewsRound. Thank you, guys. Just a last couple of your comments as we round up towards the end of this. Yes, Justin Roberts, 776. What the hell was that Arsenal kit last night? Looked wrong, no? Well, yeah, I mean, Arsenal always wear red shorts and napoles. It looked a bit like a Santa outfit. So I really don't like your kit. I'm sorry. Guys, don't like it. Last point, and we can discuss this on me and on this next stream. I think you asked the home kit this season is fine. No, I think the home kit is horrible. I think the blue kit is nice, but it's the same kit that you've had before,
literally the same. And then what's the third kit? It's the yellow kit that you've had before. There are both nice enough, but I just think the home kit is an abomination. I think it's horrible. Lo and I'm going to have to cut you off because guys, that's all we have time for tonight. I just want to thank you again for your lovely comments. You've made this such a lively place to do a live stream. I couldn't do that without you, honestly guys, and I just want to reiterate how grateful I am. Thank you for coming along. Please come on. Tell your friends. Tell your friends. Lola, when are you next live? I'll let's be live on Monday night with you. Okay, so we're back on Monday night with the gold difference. Look out for that. We'll be posting on our socials. We'll be on the EPL socials. Save up your thoughts from the weekend of football. Let's hope it's a good one for me and Nola. Thank you, everybody. Naysawad is so much more than a great insurance company. They're one of America's largest
financial services companies, just like I'm so much more than quarterback Peyton Manning. I'm also Peyton Manning. Insurance and financial services together? It's a masterpiece. Peyton Manning does it again. For your insurance and financial needs, Naysawad is on your side. Nationwide Investment Services Corporation, Ember Finra, Columbus, Ohio. There is so much NFL on ESPN right now. Monday night football, plus pregame and postgame. NFL live, NFL prime time. Everything you need to stay on top of every game, every week. Unbelievable. And now NFL Network is on the ESPN app. More football, more coverage, more ways to watch. Football's on. All season long on ESPN and streaming on the ESPN app. Every game day you show up for your team. Now it's your time.
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