Press Conference (Devin Sanchez) 3 Elite Edition September 2

0:00And stuff like that. So, is this making myself better and, you know, correcting those things? When was this, is this? At the standpoint, they're making this late. Obviously, physically, you've got the talent. So, how much of a mental leak has it been psychologically really, or be corrected in my life? It's been a good mental thing, you know, having to get myself ready to go against guys that are, you know, 2020, you know, being 18, you know, that they don't care about that up here. So, you know, it's developing yourself to have a great mindset early, you know, having that grown man mindset at 18 years old. It's really important because a lot of people don't really care about feelings. So, it's about, you know, just coming up here, you know, being a man that you think you are, you know, having to go out there and, you know, prove it. David, what's been the easiest thing and the most difficult thing about your transition years so far? The easiest thing, I would say, I mean, it's really not that easy about this. You know, coming to a top program like this, you know, especially coming off from national championship, it's really not that easy. You know, they're pushing for the same thing and they trying to go back and back.

1:01So, I mean, we just got to come up here, we got to step up. But the hardest thing I would say, you know, just having to grow up, you know, going from high school where, you know, I've been the man there for three years. So, I mean, coming up here where you started the bottom again. So, I mean, I told my parents this all the time, like, you know, I think my history is repeating itself. Because when I went into high school, the high school I went to her a powerhouse. So, I was at the bottom there and had to work my way up. And I feel like that's just repeating itself here. And I met the bottom here, you know, I put myself at the bottom. So, I have to work my way up to the top. And so, you know, just going to get these guys, they're competing every day. You're not going to get a day off where, you know, she was just coming out here just, just, just, he is. And so, I mean, you got to be on your piece and keep it all the time. When you see what a guy like Jay, sorry, David King's good. When you see what a guy like Jay did last year coming in here playing immediately, does that inspire you to want to be able to do the same thing as a freshman? I mean, definitely, you know, just what he did last year is a true freshman. You know, him being able to play an impact team like that.

2:02Obviously, I want that for myself. So, you know, I'm going to push myself to that limit, you know, try to be on the field here when that's my plan. That's the biggest reason I came here because I have an opportunity to play here when. So, me having that opportunity is good. And, you know, I'm always going to come out here and compete. Like I said, I'm putting myself at the bottom. So, I'm working, I'm going to work every day like I'm at the bottom and I got to get to the top. How, what do you feel like it's going to take for you to get from the bottom to the top? You know, just discipline. They're big on discipline here and, you know, competitive and excellent. So, it's just staying consistent every day, just doing the rights, having little to none mental errors. That's going to give me a lot of feel. And, you know, I do what I'm supposed to do. That's going to give me a lot of feel. Along those lines, how do you manage those expectations for people to think that you should be playing week one? What is season comes around? How do you manage people basically? You know, I don't really let it get to my head because, you know, like I'm here, you know, I got dudes in the room that are, you know, like IGB, you know, he's going to be a three-year star. I got your main, a person from all American, you know, he's going to play this year too.

3:04So, I can't let what people say on the net, you know, get to me because, you know, anybody can say, oh, he's going to play this year, but you know, I actually got to prove it. So, I just got to come out here, you know, work, you know, and then spot it. What's the most important thing you've learned so far in your three months here? Um, competing every day. Uh, that's the biggest thing. Uh, having to compete, you know, these guys are a pair. They take winning and losing to heart. So, you know, my first, my first week up here when we did our competition, you know, I was winning, did I ask you, I got that first loss on my belt and, you know, it kind of opened my eyes, like these guys take it to heart when they lose, they don't like it. So, you know, I kind of got that now where I don't like losing. You had the opportunity to be around the team for that, you know, CFP Ron. What did you learn from Justbosthubee seeing this team make that run? Uh, you know, being real tight with your brothers, you know, they're real tight. Uh, you know, they, they push each other, you know, it's a real brotherhood. Uh, they don't let nobody down. They always got each other back. So, I mean, it's a new team now. So, you know, we got to build that chemistry with each other, you know, just, just get tight.

4:08And I feel like when I was there for that playoff running and I practiced, um, when they were at the National Championship, you know, I just got to watch, you know, how guys are, you know, real locked in. Uh, they're close with each other. They're not letting nobody slack off. And, you know, I feel like we had the opportunity to do that with just enough. How did you handle Luke? Uh, you handle that first loss? Uh, that first loss, you know, it kind of got to me. It was, it was the IGB, you know, he, you know, he, he let me here. So, after that loss, I was like, now I can't let this happen. Cause it's like, now it's not high school where you used 17, 16 years old. And if you lose, you lose appearance. No, if you lose the coach and see that. So, and they go see how you respond to it. So, I feel like I had to, you know, open my eyes, I had to go, go in there and lock them like, yeah, I can't let this happen. I'm where, you know, so I got to go up and, you know, these guys are counting on me too. So, it's, it's really important that I don't lose. If you hadn't described yourself as a competitor, how would you do that? Uh, I'm a, I'm a great competitor, you know, I like winning. Uh, who doesn't like winning? So, I mean, winning is, is in my blood, you know, my parents taught me that, uh, at a young age,

5:08you know, going after a competing for anything that you want. And I feel like if you can go after a compete for, you know, as yours. And if you compete for it all the time, who don't take it from me? So, I mean, I'm a good competitor. I'm always gonna go after that, try to take what's mine. If it's out there, then anybody that can have it, and I'm gonna be the one that's gonna get it. There's some role markers in your room, obviously. You would talk to her, what would you turn that for? Uh, yeah, I mean, it could come out on, you know, but I don't really, I really don't like game through the talking. Uh, for, for this part, um, but, you know, if it gets there, it gets to that point where, yeah, I can bring it out. Cause, you know, regardless, I'm not just gonna let nobody just come out here and just, you know, catch balls on me. So, if I'm having a good day when I'm consistently getting P.B.U.s, yeah, I'm gonna talk. Uh, but, you know, being in that room, you kind of got to talk, you know, the Jermaine, you got IGB, you know, those, those, those, really talk is in that room. So, it kind of, it kind of makes you want to bring it out. And, you know, when we bring that out, they just bring it to energy out of the whole defense. And when you got the whole defense clicking, I mean, you can see, you can see what happened. Is there anyone that's kind of, what competition you're at with? Uh, it was during the winter, we were doing, you know, just, just stuff on the field.

6:11We was just, just, just having the time of the field, just a lot of competitions. So, I mean, he just kind of, it was a day where, you know, they had us going up against just the freshmen. And then they kind of threw us in there and fired against the older guys. So, we had to, you know, we had to wake up and, you know, we, we all kind of lost. And it all kind of like, we all kind of came to get that professional group like, what are we gonna do about this? Cause, you know, some of their kind of nice to, to step up in those roads. Yeah, definitely, welcome to college. Yeah, definitely, definitely, definitely my work in college moments. You know, you know, just, just showing that, you know, it's real now, a metal high-oh-state. Uh, I'm not in Houston, Texas, I'm more in my school. Uh, I'm far from my family. Uh, you know, I got to wake up, I got to grow. I got to mature fast. And, you know, I just got to get ready for the next level. You've mentioned high school a couple times. How did, you know, growing up very in Texas, playing at that level. How do you feel like that helped you prepare a real high-state? Uh, I feel like you prepared good, you know, I feel like I went to a powerhouse in Texas. We obviously ran the Houston area, you know, we've been running the Houston area for a long time now. And I feel like, you know, we're a real college program. Uh, we live just like these guys who do the same this.

7:12Uh, you know, the level of ball I play, the highest level ball in the Texas 6A. Uh, you know, we're going against guys like Dunkin' Bill, no crowded. Those top schools, you know, receiving the coin more I go against. And I want to get some three times in my career. So I mean, those, those that really prepared me for this level, you know, coming in like, okay, this is not where it's a little school where, oh, they don't believe that I can come here and make an impact. I came from big schools, so they're counting on me to make an impact. Cause, you know, I think, I mean, everybody would say Texas is one of the highest, highest player balls in the country, you know, they go as floored in the probably Georgia. So I mean, they're counting on me to be ready and that level of ball prepared me real, real well. How'd you do against DeCory? Uh, you know, it was, it was when, when lose, when lose. Uh, you know, I went some, he lose some. Uh, so I mean, it's, it's, it's just, it's just getting better on shot when I iron. Cause, you know, he's the top receiver, obviously in our class. Uh, you know, I feel like he's going to have a good impact at working. Uh, so I mean, it's just, it's just, it's just, uh, just seeing what's going to happen next.

8:13Looking forward to seeing him again. Yeah, definitely, definitely. I, and you know, I plan on planning against him. Uh, we don't, we won't see them this year. Hopefully we see them in the big team championships. So, you know, I, I want, uh, I want that rematch. DeVa, you committed super early in the process six months after that. You shut things down when, quite frankly, someone of your caliber didn't have to do that. You could have, you've seen kids play the game a little bit longer than that. But you chose to not do that. Just kind of lock it in here. Why? Uh, you know, cause this was, this was, this was where I felt, this was home. Uh, you know, I didn't really feel like, you know, standing, chasing was a good thing for me. Uh, I didn't, I didn't feel like that was home for me. Uh, up here, I just felt like it was home. Uh, you know, because of all, because they, you know, they're making it, you know, making me feel important up here. And then, you know, like you could ask, cause what, uh, how many times I came up here, uh, throughout my high school career, I came up here for 13 times. So, it got to the point where I was knowing the guys on the team. I had the numbers just like that. When I come up here, you know, I don't got to always build the coaches. I can go chill with some of the guys on the team. So, it's just, just me, you know, knowing what I want to put in my college ball at, you know,

9:15knowing where I felt, uh, like it was home and then, you know, it was also my parents too, you know, my mom being, you know, feeling safe that, you know, I'm up here, you know, I'm handling the business and not having to worry about me when she goes to sleep. Team meeting has said how, um, there's a number of helmets that are better than other helmets right now. So, uh, I just wanted to check those out and see what they are. Is this how much you get any more severe than the others you had? No, and that's one of the other things. I mean, I'm not going to give a whole seminar on the concussions over here. But, uh, no, it's not necessarily more severe. Each concussion, like just what I learned, each concussion is its own specific concussion. And, um, you gotta give that time the heel and then once that's heeled and ready to go, once you get back out here, you're good. So, it's not like concussions are building on top of each other. Like, if you give it time and heel, but I think like before, when guys were getting trouble with the long time, it goes like, they get a concussion, not fully healed and they go right back out there and playing. Does it look like a catch and see a side or maybe part of it? Can you just reflect on how you've grown since showing up here in fairly 21 and did it play a first and a third?

10:15Yeah, I've been here for a little while now. I've been enjoying every second of it. I always came in trying to be a captain and trying to lead these guys as best as I can. And, um, I definitely feel that I've grown vocally and, uh, just, um, just trying to help build the team up and build myself up. So, um, just trying to do anything I can to help this team. How about, um, in a concussion situation like this? You're so close to reminding your brother, do you have to sort of involve the family's decision behind that go? Yeah, definitely. They came down with me. So, when I was, I had, um, like, when the team was here doing meetings, I was driving up to a Pittsburgh meeting with the concussion specialist and everything. And, uh, they were with me and, uh, just easing their mind. That's the biggest thing. easing their mind. They're all, they're worried and everything, but, uh, they'll be okay. They'll be good. So, you can decide to play with the Elijah Mahler and your head and the driver. Say it again. We saw the player practice. Yeah. Did you think you'd be up for two weeks after that? Uh, I mean, I was good pretty much. It was that day that I was kind of had a headache and everything, but I was pretty much good after that.

11:16But it was just about going through the protocol and, I mean, there was no rush back. We weren't playing, uh, regular season game. So, I mean, I was just really good in the time of the year. It wasn't any rush. You both is wearing a already packed and still had, uh, you know, a helmet to helmet. Uh, just from your perspective, I actually be an expert. But are those doing what, um, they're intended to do? You know, you gotta take, you can wear it when he got to, you know, I'm saying like, guys are still getting concussions and getting, um, wearing. Yeah, it's definitely still a physical sport. So, I mean, concussion happened regardless. I know if you were in a guardian cap or not. Um, I think it could be looked at too. I know and just talked about it on the guardian cap. I don't think in the back that is as much padding as, I would like, but, um, I feel it could be looked at, but I think you get a concussion, whether you were in a guardian cap or not. So, I mean, stuff happens. This is a physical game. Sorry. Just to clarify this, you said you're going to get any helmet. Mm-hmm. Also, wear the guardian cap during the game. No, I'm not going to.

12:17You feel good about this game helmet that you've been wearing. Yeah. Yeah. What's the name of the game in the brand of helmet? Like any details you have? Oh, I'm not sure the brand of name yet. I'll have to get it from those guys inside. Um, you guys will definitely be seeing this on the... And how do you feel about not playing in a pre-season game? You have to say as your career, where it's not a big deal. Um, I want to say it's not a big deal, but I don't feel any pressure any, like, oh, I just needed to play in a pre-season game. I feel that's a great opportunity for the younger guys to get out there and showcase what they're able to do. Well, I still been practicing and playing and working out and getting ready for the season. So, I mean, I know the game. I'm looking forward to that first game. And, um, yeah, I'm not really concerned about not being able to get a snap of the pre-season game. I think about MJ did film it, particularly during the joint practice against Jefferson. Yeah, MJ is the number one corner. I mean, you guys see it. He's gonna be big for this year. And I think that's what's special about this team. We got three number one corners myself, MJ and Greg. I thought we all number ones, and we able to do different things out there on the field.

13:20And, uh, one guy's out, another guy can step in and not lose track or not lose pace on what we got going on. MJ, how do you see how the team can grow as a leader in the early of the year? And he's trying to pick it on this world as a guy that's bringing energy and also trying to bring it along. Yeah, definitely. Like you said, bring it in. That's exactly bringing energy, bringing guys along. MJ is real vocal out there. And he competes as he's in competitor out there and just working hard and trying to be the best. He got the mindset of wanting to be the best and he is. So, we just go out there and compete with one another. I'm so happy to see CD Lam get his contract signed and be ready to go out there and play this game and face the bad guy. No, I'm definitely happy for him. That's like changing contract and everything for him and his family. So, definitely happy for him. I'm looking forward to going and having that match up in the game. I always love going against the number one guys and best guys on that team. So, I'll be looking forward to it. It turns out we got more to history, because concussions that we're talking about. When you suffer the latest one, people who cover the team and fans are wondering and out loud in the discussion.

14:28Could you contemplate retiring? Every go through your mind or do you immediately know that you're going to come back? Yeah, like I said, this is a game I love. I love playing this game, being with the guys out here. I really don't see myself doing too much other stuff. Unless I'm just really physically unable to play this game. I don't see myself stepping away from football no time soon. Like I said before, I can't take it easy on these receivers out here. So, me being out here, I got to give them a good look and just go out there and play. But I answered your question. I haven't seen myself walking away though. Are you actually out of protocol now? Yes. Hey, did you know, Greg Culld Miles hardened the steal the drafts? What have you seen? Say it again. Sorry, Greg Culld Miles hardened the steal the drafts. When have you seen from any other camp? And what kind of exciting about him? Miles, he's been balling. He's been showing out, making plays against the Vikings. And just making plays out here. So, it was big for him to make the team. I was happy for him. We all congratulated him. And he's going to be a big piece on our team, coming going forward.

15:28Dins of off another rookie, you mentioned making the receivers better. How have you made, Jamari talked about how you've helped him as a rookie. What have you seen out of him in his development? Yeah, he's been looking good since he came in. He's been getting better and better. He's night and day from once he came in, so where he's at now, I believe. I think that's just his competitive nature and what he's been doing out there in practice. And us going against one another out there. So, he's been good and he's going to be a big piece as well to our offense. What's the tip to the last one? What sort of tip do you give receivers? How can you help a receiver? Yeah, I mean, it's a constant communication. If I were to win on a red, they may come and ask me what it is that you've seen on that play that you're able to get in position. And I'll tell them that. And they may ask them a question. So, it's just that constant communication on how we can get each other better. Are you excited? Thank you guys. Thank you. Thank you. Glad to be back. Glad to be back. I just... I just... I just... I just...

16:28I just... I just... I just... I just... I just... I just... I just... I just... I just... I just... I just... I just... I just... I just... I just... I just can't compare it to the series, but learning the Ultra Commonwealth is great. So, coach, they asked all the seniors before we came in. They asked us if they were okay for us to come with the playoffs with them and they all just given it a green light. They wanted us to experience that for the next time we're in the playoffs. So, we could see that I think that's helped tremendously. but we definitely grown throughout that process. Just see the way a guy like Dott of Inject and stepped up for a high state last year. How inspiring was that for you? It's very inspiring. Me and Dany were pretty close, like they talked to him a lot. So you know, just seeing him move from guard to tackle and just make such a huge jump in that little time was just really cool to watch. Carter, the especially the three primary coaches

17:29you're working on, do they all speak the same language? If you follow my driv, I mean, who do you listen to most, I guess, in those kind of situations? You know, they're all from different places. So at first, I think it was a little hard for them to mesh in the middle of the lingo, but now they've got it down packed. They're all at the same exact thing. So that's been helping a lot. I mean, obviously they can explain stuff a little different if you'd like them to, but they've been doing a good job of keeping everything together. It could take in particular. What's he brought to you? What are some tidbits or things he's brought to and open your eyes a little bit? Just let the little older playstyle, I could say he's not like too fancy on all the technique stuff. So I like just how straightforward he is with all the technique stuff, for sure. He's very straightforward. I know you know Luke pretty well, both being from Toledo. How have you just seen Luke Bro here so far going into this year? I think I've been watching him for a while. You know, I've known him like you said, but I've just seen him grow as a leader. It's been really cool to see him a while back. You know, I think all the software he's seen here, we always play to each other, but seeing him move into that leader role has been really cool to see. What kind of leadership is he bringing to that unit right now?

18:29Just always talking to the younger guys, then encouraging us, you know, tell us what we need to do. And not only the younger guys, but the other guys just encourage us as a whole. And what does his story mean to you? I mean, obviously this time a year ago, he wasn't even sure where he was gonna fit in or whatever, now I'm certain, especially through the playoffs, he was a force. I mean, what does it just tell you about perseverance, but also a season? I think it really is just never give up. I mean, obviously you might not start the first game, maybe not even the second game, but you can always make an impact if you really, that's your desire. Yeah. We've been meeting on, so that's gonna really explain on team. Nice start. I think it's really good to see the ropes. I kind of teach you, tricks and tricks, you know, all the offensive lines I don't know. I would say Austin and Luke a lot, you know, I talked to them for your offense, especially about technique stuff, Austin's been playing a little different places. So he's been helping me a lot of my small technique things, just what to do for sure. Is it the small stuff that is a big adjustment from playing top? Is that really what kind of mechanism is going to be? Yeah, it's definitely the smaller stuff, there's like, you know, hand protection stuff like that.

19:30Nothing to address it. So it's been good. The tradition has been too crazy. Exactly what positions have you been repiting? Only a left tackle. Yeah, so far. You feel pretty comfortable there? I feel very comfortable here. These are grown men you're going against. Kinyata and Kaden are like 22, 23 years old. Yeah, yeah. Obviously that's a lot different than the high school you're playing, what, 16, 17, most 18. So it hasn't been a lot different. I first co-practice were my best, but I've definitely adjusted a pretty well this spring. Two more questions. I asked Jay Montzuk on the sampling. You guys obviously switched my list very close. He came up to Lido a handful of times and then all the time he get up here, he's gone. How's it been getting the new offensive line good? It's been really good. You know, obviously we had all the fresh matter really good relationship with Coach Frye. You know, men seeing him leave was actually a little hard, but we all kept our minds open with Coach Bowen and we're liking him a lot. We've been developing relationships with him and he's been really good to us so far. Good. All right, Carter, thank you. Thank you. But honestly, it's pretty, because I've basically,

20:31you can ask my parents, since I was in middle school, I've never been like souped. Like I just get really excited and I just start flexing out. Since I've been 11 years old, I've always done that and there's a ton of high school pictures of me doing it and yeah, that's just what I've always done. So it's pretty funny. I think a big positive for that celebration is normal people in the stands can do it. Yeah. Which is not the case with some celebration. Like even I could do the bow flex and the whole of the pool of people is like, right now. Yeah. There we go. Yeah. But I like the way he doesn't like, he doesn't stand over the quarterback. He's just celebrating. Like dude, he just sat the quarterback. It's time to bow flex. Yeah. Have you heard from either bow flex or bow jangles or from the Carolina side? I have not. I mean, I haven't, I guess I haven't done a great job of reaching out, but yeah, I probably shouldn't. Yeah, let's go. They should call you. You don't have to go. Yeah. It feels like it's obvious it's bow time. Like, I mean, it's obvious. Yeah. If I can't buy the bow meal at Keenan Stadium by Saturday at 8 p.m.

21:31Do you like the bow seconds? And it's kind of hard to do. Yeah, I like it. I like it. That's actually interesting because Kamin actually was the one who made that up last year. Like our first game last year, we played South Carolina. And I had like two or one and a half or something like that. And so Kamin was calling me that last year too. So it was pretty interesting to see like the origins of that. Yeah, just need a little momentum. A lot of opportunities here. Exactly. Exactly. OK, you've legally agreed to give us 10% of anything you've talked about. You're going to go. Were you impressed, jealous, or something else, which Javari Ritzies picked six against Virginia? Oh, no, that's that. I mean, I'm sure you all saw the clip too. Like, that was all him. Like, there was literally like a shallow pat. Like, it wasn't even like a screen or something. The shallow he like tipped it up caught it and then Heisman the quarterback. While holding the ball like a loaf of bread in the other hand. And like, I don't know. He's a freak for sure. So I mean, that was just straight impressed there.

22:32I don't know. I haven't had an interception here. And I don't know if I had any high school either. So really? Yeah, that was pretty sick to see him doing that. And then like running down the field next because I was on the field at the same time. Yeah. Were there any moments where you wondered if he was going to run out of gas? Honestly, no. Just because I like doing like the workouts the whole summer with him. He's a three-tack. But like, he's not really. Because like, he's just so free. Like, he's big enough to do it. But he's also so athletic for his size that, yeah. No, he's a freak for sure. All right. Tell us a little bit about growing up bow, young bow. Tell us a little bit about your background. Growing up bow. Hmm. I started playing football when I was like seven or so. My dad played college football at Yukon. My mom played college volleyball at Yukon. So they were both there. And so I always was around athletics pretty much my whole life. We were like super competitive. Like, anytime we get in trouble, we'd be doing like pushups and that stuff. I remember when I was like five years old,

23:34like we'd have a game where like my dad would sit on the couch and we'd like go back basically doing like one on one, like playing receiver in DB or some. I have two brothers and a sister. So very competitive household. Started playing football when I was like seven or whatever. Mostly because my dad played football and then my older brother. I don't know. I'm not sure if you're all familiar with the like the pop-worn or super bowl stuff where you like you go to Orlando. So my older brother had done that a couple times. So after that, I was like, okay, I definitely want to start playing football. Started playing. My dad was my coach. And then we end up doing the same thing. We went to the Super Bowl twice since seventh and eighth grade. And then from there is history, high school football. Where do you fall in the siblings? So I've one older brother, me younger brother, younger sister. What's the game most likely to cause a fight if y'all are all playing? Oh, definitely basketball. My little brother was a very big, he was quite the referee during some of that stuff. And he'd always get mad and like call penalties.

24:35And yeah, definitely, I don't know. We played a lot of basketball. We had like our neighbor had like a football. It wasn't. It was just like a their front yard was like kind of like curved. So we played football on that every time. And like you could throw the football over the house for like the deep balls and it was cool. But yeah, no, we played, we were always outside growing up the whole time. Would you beat your little brother up? So it was kind of a thing where like he'd start ref it like and it would give me really mad. And then like I'd like chase up to him. And then he'd like kind of like be like, what's that animal that like plays dead? Oh, a possum? Yeah, he'd be like a possum. He'd just lay down on the ground. And then I kind of like get over him. But like I would never actually do anything because like, I don't know, I didn't want to like actually hurt him and like him go tell my mom or something. I mean, he might have heard of you. Yeah, exactly. But yeah, so there was a lot of that going on. I'm sure he could tell you more. But yeah, you you were academic all ACC last year. Yeah. And you're in the business school.

25:35Yeah, both those things are no joke. How do you manage your time to do all these things successfully? Hmm. It's a good question. I don't really know. You just kind of, I feel like if you care about something, you can make time. I'm not sure. I've always been like a very big math person my whole life. And luckily for the business school here, that was like the big criteria. Like you do the calculus and the stats and the e-con. So that was kind of right up my alley. I've not passed my view. And then also having like good friends to be around. Like I'm sure you all know Will Hardy and Connor are both in the business school with me too. So like we kind of been on the same track our whole career, which has been pretty cool. And been nice to have like other people around you to help you get better and stuff. So yeah. That's that sounds like a very intelligent household you guys have. Yeah. You guys just like Friday night or Saturday night after the game. Everybody's like out and you're like, guys, look, we got some e-con. We needed that. We're gonna go celebrate like normal with calculus.

26:36Yeah, I guess so. I guess. What do you like to do outside of football? Hmm. I've recently I've gotten into fishing a lot more, which has been, my girlfriend has a beach house or they live there from Morehead City. And so I went fishing with her dad and stuff and it was really fun. I don't know. I like to do very spontaneous things all the time. I'm sure I can talk to y'all more about that later, but I don't know. I don't know. But yeah, we I don't know. Me, me, me, Kar will do a lot of interesting fun things. I don't know. We played a lot of pickleball and that kind of stuff. I don't know. We did like a whole scavenger hunt one time. It was funny. I don't know. We do a lot of stuff like that. But yeah. Fishing with the girlfriend's dad can be some pressure because like you want to do well, but not too well. How did you handle that?

27:37I it was kind of he was legit legit. He's lived his whole life. I was not legit. I caught like maybe two fish the whole time, but it was fun. It was sometimes like the great thing about Fishing is kind of like more of like just being out there and like the peaceful vibe was almost better than actually catching sometimes. So I thought that was pretty cool. You set up a scavenger hunt like how well. Actually Connor will set it up and then he just like randomly like so like me and Connor were roommates will was not at the time and they just like really like put a note card outside my door and then me and Kate law. Yeah. Yeah. And we had yeah they just did a whole spontaneous scavenger hunt and yeah it was it was fun. It was really cool. It was really cool. It was like six p.m. or seven p.m. and we finished at like 10 p.m. But yeah, they were so even in acting. Yeah. Yeah.

28:38It was it was fun though. It was very very creative by car well. Yeah. So there has been a lot that has happened with this team this year both on the field and off the field. Yeah. How have you guys tried to manage all of that? I mean, it's just it's a lot to happen to people. How have you guys tried to manage that maybe individually and together? Yeah, I think it's definitely everybody handles it a lot different. I mean, just a lot of different especially like obviously all this stuff with Tileek can be very tough. For me, I just tried to keep focused on my goals and trying to individually work to get better like and focus even more on football and in school and stuff and I don't know for other people. I think that's kind of like the mindset of the whole team is just we want to move forward and in the right way and I think that biweek was very important for us to kind of like take a time out reset mentally and lock back in and I think that showed pretty well these

29:38past two weeks. You're talking about that first biweek. Yeah, the first biweek. What's the best advice you got during that time? I think kind of just that like just focus on what's important and like not let the outside noise affect you too much and almost like just shut your ears off to the outside noise and just focus on the next thing ahead of you and coach Montaquina talked a lot about like you know you have like the high beams on your cars and like just turn the high beams off just focus on what's in front of you right there and yeah, I think that was pretty good advice. He seems like a really good coach to me. Have you enjoyed working with him? No, he's awesome. He's awesome. Yeah. What is what is that relationship been like? What has been beneficial for you? What's been beneficial? He's just the amount of knowledge he has is pretty insane. Obviously he's in the NFL for a long time and coach some pretty dang good players but just like being able to watch film with him and be able to look at different tells or he

30:40does a big like run cut up every week for what the team's main runs are. Obviously like this week we were playing like week fours and they do like the big mesh stuff and so. No, just like little details that a lot of people don't tend to see that we can look closer as yeah, he helps a lot of that. Coach Brown has talked a lot about and this has been a heavy topic for a lot of you particularly with the defensive life about rotating you guys in more so that the amount of snaps that everybody plays isn't as high at the end of the year. So maybe instead of playing 70 plays early in the season somebody was playing 40 or whatever. Do you think that's been beneficial like can you tell a difference? Do you think your teammates and your fellow defensive lineman can tell a difference? I mean there's definitely a big difference. I think last year I was averaging like 15 snaps if that a game and then now I'm these past few weeks of getting like 30 something. So for me I mean I can't speak to the fact of like playing too much and then like body hurting because that wasn't the case for me last year but I'm sure that like guys like

31:43Kamin and Dez probably feel that a lot more so being able to stay fresh is a big thing because like I don't know like say like you're playing the game for 60 plays and like they're like throwing the ball and you can't even put your best stuff on film really because you're tired and you're gasped that doesn't really work well for anybody like so. Like playing more plays is not necessarily equal more production I would say. Defending that slumash feels like it would be tough. Yeah. What's one or two things I can look for when I'm watching on Saturday that will help me try to be able to figure out what they're doing? The biggest thing Coach Collins has talked about is just like penetrating. Like if you sit there just sit on the block and just let them do their thing it's going to put a big bind on the guys in the back end and because like they have to play the run and the pass that whole time. So for us just being able to penetrate and we have some really big strong defensive tackles. So the quarterback will like step up really far when they're riding that match.

32:45So for them to be able to get through the line and get in the quarterback's face and again like with him stepping up like getting your hands up was a big thing too. But for us on the edge is just getting off the ball and trying to get to him as fast as we can that's a big thing. Putting the pressure on them versus letting them dictate us that's probably the biggest thing I'd say. Alright three weeks left in the regular season. It just feels like a different team. I don't know how else to say it. Like what in your mind is kind of the mindset of these last couple of weeks and what do you think will be important for you guys to continue to play well? Yeah mindset wise. I don't know. I think we're just starting to focus on like the little things even more and just completely buying into that. And then I don't know everybody is since summer workouts we've always talked about like we break everything down on champions and like we want to be the best team that we can be. And I think now we're kind of like getting towards that point and just finishing this

33:46year like going three and a half and these last three weeks I don't know. I feel like that's very important to everybody and everybody's pretty bought into that. We're going to get what you thought you were going to be both or anything encouraging that you were able to take out of that first game. Yeah. One you got the first game into your belt definitely needed that something that I was saying that I didn't really get too much into the winter preseason so kind of my first live actions. That was good to try to get my feet wet a little bit there. How was it? I mean obviously wasn't great. Definitely wasn't what I expected what I wanted to happen with the team one of the best. Obviously you want to come out with a victory and get into that. How do you evaluate your own performance? Yeah I mean obviously wasn't great. I needed to do a better job. No helping the team when it's helping the offense and that's why it kind of brought me here is to help the team help the offense no go so I had to do a better job with that coming from work. What way is specifically? I got good open and catch the ball.

34:46That's my job as a receiver and as you're a job description that's why I got to do better job. I mean I'm not going to put out one specific bet. You have to need a kill guy and find yourself in the first three. Do you get frustrated in moments like that in the ball time? Definitely a little bit of both. Obviously I just wanted the team to win. I think we got a chance to win. Definitely towards it and to stretch that last drive. I was a couple of plays here, a couple of calls that he made me should have gotten but I think the frustration more so it just comes from wanting to win more or anything. What did you say he was a little surprised how much attention you had right away from the defense? How about you? Yeah definitely. We maybe gill a bit more one-on-ones kind of how the game playing with set up. You didn't have a lot of different coverage out of cloud to my side and this is kind of how the game goes. What's the process been? I've been in college sometimes where whatever reason just to see that.

35:49Definitely. Especially in college a lot of the game fans defensively were taking the away. You had a lot of success at a high up state obviously one of the ball having different weapons and kind of still get the victories and I was you had to continue to do better jobs when I hear. Why are the communication the process been like post game getting on the same page with Kyler. You guys exchange text or you guys in the film? Yeah film definitely kind of asking what did I see there kind of go over and play and I just kind of give him what I saw and kind of different feedback there. Mark I guess we're asking questions about the previous game bar are you the type of guy to let a game like that winger or how do you flush it? You got to move on got to move on some long season got like 16 more of them. Hopefully you know I can stay healthy throughout the year and just continue to build and get better each week. You guys did so much work throughout the off season to get on the same page. How different is it when you get into that regular season? Yeah it's totally different it's totally different.

36:49You can do a lot of things in shirts and shorts and then once you go out there and put practice and you get pads on you do like the point practice you do with the colds but there's nothing like actually going out there and live action and really trying to be on the same page so I think that relationship will continue to develop and we'll get better in the next one. That's just a matter of reps then. Just a matter of reps then. Yeah I think definitely um like I said I was kind of my first live action together. So I can continue to give it. When you're early impressions of it. When you're early impressions of it. When you're early impressions of it. When you're early impressions of it. Yeah but now obviously I have a death respect no JG's call or three seasons and obviously we all go really healthy and that's kind of the most important thing and obviously that we're all healthy even going for it so. That's it I can say. Marvin what are your early impressions of the Rams? What do you think of the Rams? Yeah I mean they're a good team they're a good physical team. I got a new lot of new guys up front I think that's kind of where the strong suit is. Kind of a little different to Buffalo. Come over to a little match coverage so I'm excited to build this one.

37:50Personally when the belts take you one of my teammates how do you feel today? Wasn't many of them. Wasn't many of them so I thought I needed to. How much were you thinking versus just playing you're not getting any preseason game actually into the box? Definitely definitely thinking a lot out there and I think I'll come with reps. I think to think and less and just going out there and playing definitely come with reps and it's something you're on you better at but I think definitely I was thinking a lot out there. Is there anything you can do to improve that that's for coverage anything you can do in the past because you're going to finish that a lot obviously. Yeah I mean you just got to team you get open for yourself making yourself available to when the ball does anyway making the play. This, the heat is just taking you away that means other guys are having a chance to get open so that's kind of how I look at it. It's no longer so successful in our offense. That's the best thing for us. They're kind of going to be with Kyla. Is this something that comes pretty quickly in a new game or something like that? Hopefully sooner or later I think I'll continue to see you.

38:51I don't think we're in a bad place right now at all. Obviously I don't really think that but just a live reps will continue to grow and show. All I care about is how I am with my teammates. I don't want them to ever think I don't care about them or how I'm not in it. And you know you can say whatever you want about me besides that but I always dedicate anything I can to them. And I don't want that to every question. I just said that it felt like sometimes you were holding up somewhere watching film you texted below say hey you missed this or you want to tweak that? Well like the first day he was batting all of Russ's passes so I had to let him know. You got to take advantage of that. You got to make sure guys are you know know that you still care and you still want to be a part of this. You know just watch and practice. There's a couple of little things we're doing different whether I'm communicating with Dumbar or other people. So you're also talking with him and you give him pointers during the off season just

39:52a constant communication. How do you see him grow as a person you know in part is how he's approaching things and how he's getting ready for this season. It's rookie. You know I think the thing with Keanu is he's more comfortable you know it's not his first time around the track. It's actually like he can catch his feet under him. You know I always think when you're in a rookie season you're going from bowl game. I don't even know what's going to play in a bowl game. Sorry what's going to sound like a no but you know personally I just think when you go from bowl game to training for the combine to you know rookie minicamp OTA is the you know many can I mean to train the camp the regular season you really don't get a time to really catch yourself. You know you understand to play book now. You can be more vocal. You know I think with my absence and other guys absence you know you need guys like that to step up and be ready for those opportunities. So the surgery you had. The same you had during the season. What was just tightened down everything.

40:54You know my left side because I was overcompensating a little bit but you know it was it wasn't anything that's lingers you know. I'll say this a groin is not like an ACO it's not like anything is ever going to get affected again and you know you know feeling good able to do everything squat and heavy power and speed so you know it feels good to get after a gun. What do you think of what the team was able to accomplish yourself in terms of bringing guys like wrestling and things like that. You know I think they're all good acquisitions but you know you never want to be known as a paper champ so I can't win the off season. I think the work gets done out here on the field gets done in the classroom it gets done training you know and then you see where you're at in training camp and then you build on that. You know I think we got the right guys in the building it's just about putting a completely month. Can't have technical issues to separate the business part of the game and the actual

41:55football team. Oh you know you always want to you always have to treat it like a business because you know one day it's going to end and that's a good job. It's not like in college where you know you got four years guarantee. Well now you don't know what that I don't know it's crap but transfer portal but you have to I still have love for this game and I still work my tail off and I still put everything into it and that's not going to change but you have to know what you bring to the team and what your value is. Can't be able to be out there with your teammates today emotionally. Great you know. We got a new training staff and still learning the warm up a little different but you know I love it. Just getting after it. Learning new guys going through the same drills I've been doing by myself.

42:56I actually like having more people around because like kind of go sterk crazy when it's just you and another guy you're like damn I got to go back up for another rep already. So it's nice to be up here and get a chance to be with my guys. Can we confident and feel we'll get down to your emotion. Oh I'm going to try to remain pretty neutral because I don't want to be to either way. All I know is I want to be here but we'll see what happens. It's my last year here. I've had a great career here but I look forward to playing. What that second surgery you said at this time was on the left side was the first time around on the right side. Right side during the season left side and that was just tightened down my core muscle. It wasn't the same as my ad doctor. You can ask Dr. Bradley, Dr. Zuckerbron who did the surgery as well.

43:59If anything it's going to help me and make me a lot stronger from here on up. Can you say you were training with another guy who have you come to mind? Tyson, I've been training with him for the last eight years. We've always trained together. We've got a trainer up north, Shyall Cole Haley, he's my guy. I trained a Heath Miller, Brett Kiesel, multitude of guys at all respect. We've just been getting after him. Can you say you guys historically, 35, they paid big contract? Who that held against you? I think there's not a lot of history behind it but for me I'm not looking to be like anybody else. My game is different from everybody else in the sleep. I like to think I can play the run in the pass and that's where I'm different. I remember last year Mike T. you just brought to my attention. The thing that's really cool is you watch power lifters and my game is built on power

45:02and technique and those guys go into the 40s. That's what kind of research I'm doing behind the scenes but we'll see what happens. There's not a lot of history but I'm here to make history and I'm here to win another super wall there and have a great season. Do you have a set goal for yourself or how many years you want to play in the NFL? Do you just take things here right here? It was tough answering that question right after the season. I will say this guys, I can't keep answering that question right after the season. It's not fair to the season that's not fair to my family. In my mind I got three years and I want to maximize them. I want to play at a high level and I want to go deep into playoffs. We've got a good team and I'm going to do my part to be ready for all those situations. Do you plan on practicing when you report to the trophy? Is it possible that you might hold in and force an issue?

46:03I have not even thought that far. I've taken a day. I told my agent and we talked about it. We were cool coming out here. I'll be here for many and then I'll be there for training. I don't know what the work entails but when we get there we'll cross that bridge. Why would you have three or more remaining steel work on these three years? There was a conversation between me, Omar and Mike T. There are certain guys that are one helmet guys. I want to be one of those one helmet guys. There's a hunger and desire there but that doesn't mean just hanging it up and calling it a career. To me I think I got more bullets to fire and I'm excited to do that. Last one, can you and Russell Wilson are going to be out there with Walter Man? Walter Payton Man of the Year.

47:05I saw Russ on social media but I have an idea to see it. I like the surprise happens when it happens but it's cool to have another Walter Payton Man of the Year winner. I think it's an honor to be there. I'll say one thing. I won't be here. I'm just telling you guys so it's not a big deal. I won't be here because I have to do a Walter Payton Man of the Year thing on Thursday. It's not like I'm skipping. It's an honor to be with Russ and it's an honor of doing things in the community. Doing great work. The cool thing is as much as we get honored and nominated for these things, the work doesn't stop. I can see that with Russ' foundation. We had an event for our foundation and my mom was quick to tell Russ, hey we need the partners somehow. I was like, mom, let's just enjoy the event.

48:08It's really cool to be a part of a lead group. All right. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you guys. Mech was just talking about how you guys made each other better. He's obviously a young guy but an impressive guy. I know your goal is to shut them down. Right. I've seen him get better because you guys are challenging him because that's positive. It is a positive. It's a super positive. Just going this unjure my, I'm not going to be excited. It's super him. Is there, do you guys feel like, does that kind of mindset that you take an everyday of practice? You just say you're not happy during my catch-up with a lot of people like 98 out of 100 receivers. Does that actually probably are not catching folks on your head? Like, if you keep that in the back of your head, then we're going to get Jeremiah, Carnell, and Brandon and I'm back in. Yes, that's my mindset. In practice the whole day, I went to those boys to get me everything that they have so I go, and I'm Saturday and it's going to be easy for me and I'll be prepared.

49:09What have you seen the growth of the young foreigners? Obviously, we saw that they're not a Jeremiah last year. They're your main sorry, but Calvin and some of the Aaron's and the young guys. How have you seen them come along? And Scott has gotten completely better from his brain. Like, completely better. Is that just time in the program? I'm just getting used to the speed of college football, I would say. What about Calvin? He was obviously here last year, but he was. Calvin has gotten a lot better. I would say that he's gotten a lot smarter. And then he also write G.B. Go ahead and think he's there about Calvin's intelligence, you know, where he's grown. Where specifically is it? The film room? Is it kind of picking up, you know, the playbook? Where have you seen that? The rain up a crab? I would say Calvin has gotten smarter just like his game knowledge, like expecting like a different kind of routes and stuff like that. When did everything start to click for him? Last year was it in the sauce? When did you feel this comfortable? I would say it in the spring, I started to get a lot more comfortable in our decent.

50:12We said you break up the past yesterday with the German name, though sorry for your ass but what is like going up against him? Do you think it's like you enjoy it? Yeah, I love it. He's tough. I like going against him a lot. He's really good. What have you improved in your game just from that, for example, those one-on-one matchups? This preseason or whatever. You know how a ballie who disgain. Yeah, so German, he forces me to play the ball because if you don't play the ball against him, he'll go get it. Yeah, yeah. And you Dave said, how would you describe this defense now compared to this time of year ago from this standpoint of a confidence factor? You don't mean that you guys feel on the field? How would you describe it? It's different about it, I guess. I feel like everybody is a lot more smart than there is. Everybody's like, I would just say that we're going just smarter. Yeah, when you look up and late and ran some decided to come back and Caleb down, transfer it in.

51:13What did you feel about that? Did it just grow stronger in that one week span, two weeks span? You're still on up saying? I feel like those guys have played at that level. So level those guys have played at? Yeah, I would say that. Like, a downcoming, what they say, he was coming back, Zell says, coming back, it's just so light. Yeah, that's a good thing. I'm happy to be in that. Yeah, great to see you. Thanks, man. Of course. We're also talking with him and you give him pointers during the offseason, just a constant communication. How do you see who grows a person, you know, in part of how he's approaching things and how he getting ready for this season versus his rookie? You know, I think the thing with Keanu is he's more comfortable, you know. It's not his first time around the track. It's actually like he can catch his feet under him. You know, I always think when you're in your rookie season, you're going from bowl game. I don't even know what's constantly playing the bowl game. Sorry, Wisconsin, I don't even know. But, you know, personally, I just think when you go from bowl game to training for the combine, to, you know, rookie minicamp, OTAs, the, you know, many can't, I mean, to train the camp.

52:22The regular season, you really don't get the time to really catch yourself. You know, you understand to play book now. You can be more vocal, you know, and I think with my absence, the other guys' absence, you know, you need guys like that to step up and be ready for those opportunities. So the surgery you had in Yawshed, you know, the same you had during the season, was it more thorough? What was it? Just tightened down everything. You know, on my left side, because I was over-compensating a little bit. But, you know, it was, it wasn't anything that lingers, you know. I'll say this, a growing is not like an ACL, it's not like anything's ever going to get affected again. You know, you know, feeling good, able to do everything, squat and heavy, with power and speed. So, you know, it feels good to get after a guy. What do you think of what the team was able to accomplish in the show season in terms of bringing guys like wrestling and things around these days? You know, I think they're all good acquisitions, but, you know, you never want to be known as a paper champ. So, you can't win the off season.

53:24I think the work gets done out here on the field, gets done in the classroom, it gets done training. You know, and then you see where you're at in training camp, and then you build on that. You know, I think we got the right guys in the building. It's just about putting a completely month to go. Can you tell us how difficult is it to separate the business part of the game in the actual football season? You know, you always have to treat it like a business, because, you know, one day it's going to end, and that's been a job. It's not like in college where, you know, you got 40 years guarantee. Well, now you don't even know what that is, I don't know, it's crap. It's a transfer portal, portal. But, you know, you have to, I still have love for this game, and I still work my tail off, and I still put everything into it. And that's not going to change, but you have to know what you bring to the team and what your value is.

54:26Can you have any other way to be out there with your teammates today emotionally? Great, you know, we got a new training staff, and still learning the warm up, a little different. But, you know, I love it. You know, just getting after it, learning new guys, going through the same drills I've been doing by myself. I actually like having more people around, because like, kind of go stir crazy when it's just you and another guy you're like, damn, I gotta go back up for another rep already. And so, you know, it's nice to be up here and give a chance to be with my guys. Can we confident, and we'll get down to your emotion? Oh, I'm going to try to remain pretty neutral, because I don't want to be to either way. All I know is I want to be here, but we'll see what happens. It's my last year here. I've had a great career here, but I look forward to playing next year.

55:28What that second surgery said at this time was on the left side of the first time around on the right side? Right side during the season, left side. And that was just tightening down my core muscle. It wasn't the same as my ad doctor. You know, you can ask Dr. Bradley, Dr. Zuckerbron, who did the surgery as well. You know, if anything's going to help me and make me a lot stronger from here on up. And he said you were training with another guy, who have you come to mind? Tyson, I've been training with him for the last eight years. We've always trained together. We've got a trainer up north, Charles Cohele, who's my guy. He trained a heat miller, bread keel, multitude of guys that I'll respect. And we've just been getting that for him. How do you guys historically, 35, they paid big contracts? And who that's held against you? I think there's not a lot of history behind it.

56:28But, you know, for me, I look as, I'm not looking to be like anybody else. You know, my game is different from everybody else in the league. You know, I like to think, you know, I can play the run in the past. And that's where I'm different. You know, I remember last year Mike T. He just brought to my attention. You know, the thing that's really cool is you watch powerlisters. And, you know, my game's built on power and technique. And those guys go into the 40s. And so, you know, that's what kind of research I'm doing in the high end of the scenes. But, you know, we'll see what happens. There's not a lot of history, but I'm here to make history. And I'm here to, you know, win another Super Bowl there. And, you know, have a great season. Do you have a set goal for yourself on how many years you want to play in the NFL? Or do you just take things here right here? You know, it was tough answering that question right after the season. I will say this guys, I can't keep answering that question right after the season.

57:28That is not fair to the season that's not fair to my family. You know, but in my mind, I got three years. And I want to maximize them. I want to play at a high level. And I want to go deep into playoffs. And, you know, we got a good team. And I'm going to do my part to be ready for all those situations. If you plan on practicing when you report to the church, or it's a possibility that you might fold in and enforce the issues. I have not even thought that far. I've taken a day. My day, you know, I told my agent, and we talked about it. We were cool coming out here. You know, I'll be here for many. And then I'll be there for training. I don't know what the work entails, but when we get there, we'll cross that bridge. Why would a guy bring you more? Remain a stealer for years, for years. You know, there was a conversation between me, Omar, and Mike T.

58:28And there's certain guys that are one helmet guys. You know, and I want to be one of those one helmet guys. And, you know, there's a hunger and desire there. But that doesn't mean just hanging it up and calling it a career. To me, I think, you know, I got more bullets to fire. And, you know, I'm excited to do that. What's the meaning? Last one. Can you and Russell Wilson are going to be out there with, well, to me, what's a pain in the end of the year, Pat? I saw Russ's on social media. But I have been able to see it. I like the surprise happens when it happens. It's cool to have another Walter Payton Manier winner. You know, I think it's an honor to be there. And I'll say one thing. I won't be here. I'm just telling you guys so it's not a big deal. I won't be here because I have to do a Walter Payton Manier thing on Thursday. So it's not like I'm skipping. Sorry. But, you know, it's an honor to be with Russ.

59:32You know, it's an honor of doing things in the community. You know, doing great work. And, you know, the cool thing is, as much as we get honored and nominated for these things, the work doesn't stop. And I can see that with Russ this foundation. You know, we had an event for our foundation. And my mom was quick to tell Russ, hey, we need the partners around. And I was like, mom, let's just enjoy the event. But, you know, it's really cool to be a part of a lead group. All right. Thank you. Thank you for your career. Was it like to see real extended action? I mean, it was a good opportunity. It was definitely a good game. Not one that I expected to go down the wire like that. But sometimes it goes like that. It's a lot of situations and stuff that we talked about. We went out there and we executed. So it was just fun to be a part of that. Right. So it's a style on the, we don't know. We've actually been very different from the actual sort of that. Yeah, I mean, you just got to plan for a lot of different things. It just extends out a little bit. So we got to just be very, very conscious in our studying.

1:00:33Like who's going to be in there? What are their different like skill sets and things of that nature? You get to use different like camping for back. So it's for those two guys? Not necessarily, but we, like, there's always getting some work with the scouts and put it next anyway. So we get different, different deals. I mean, he's a good football player. So we got no worries out on the field. But we just got to honestly just trust our scheme, trust our defense. I like our players a lot. So when we have that matchup, whoever has that match, if they just have to go in there. So you feel like you can help with that, you know, being a nickel at that matchup? Yeah, I mean, I go out there and I cover. So they don't really, they put them out alive. He's not really in there. He's not really in there. He's not blocking a lot. So he's going to be, he's going to be seen out there with the nickels of safety. So there's going to be a lot of times we're going to have to cover him. So it's our time to cover him. So we're just going to go through our job. Lorenzo, would you play a lot of stats, especially like last weekend teams? Still think like a receiver at times? Yeah, I mean, I get a feel for routes early on.

1:01:33But yeah, I think just in my training, like understanding the raw combination and what they want to run on different down in distances is tell me out. Or is it fitting the run depending the run against the sea? What kind of stance about these running bags that are, it makes it hard to bring down? Yeah, they're big backs. They're both over 220. So they're going to run downhill. They play with good paddlers. So they're going to put their pads low. So as a different like me, I got to just make sure I run through their outside lane, get them down. What goes through your mind when they're to quarterback some of them? They have to stay in line. I mean, nine that actually split him out a little bit. So he might actually, I'm a little ball a little bit, but 15, we have to guard him or whatever our time is. We got to go execute it. I mean, that's a quarterback. So we should make sure we handle that. How the Oregon game, how hungry are you guys? So do you guys have to move yourself to another top five team? Definitely. I don't really think it took the Oregon game to wake us up like that. But I was definitely, I mean, it was part of our, part of our season. So we got to scope bounce back over us. The defense as a team keep use that to ignite a fire in us.

1:02:35Sure. One of the leaders of this special teams unit, where do you feel like you guys are at right now through seven games? And where do you need to be at? I mean, I think we got to continue to get better. We don't really have any block set really. We don't really have any touchdowns on special teams. So we got to make sure we got to be game twos in that space. I feel like we got to continue to improve. Anything else for Enzo? Hey buddy. Thank you, Angel. Players are getting more comfortable under the system and just like rushing together and having similar guys out there together. You know, we always want to do better. And, you know, it's 10 plus sacks across the room is the goal. You know, nothing short. That's why I'm saying like last year is just last year, you know. And I feel like the number for 8 and a half as a leader of the sack, the sack leader is too low.

1:03:36So we have to bring that up. With video impression of Jonah Ellis to this point, did you guy get room there? Yeah, no, Jonah's doing good. He's doing good. I feel like he's, it took him a little bit to get acclimated and just feel like comfortable with this new system and stuff like that. But he's doing good. And definitely just, like I said, impressed with him. He definitely handles it like a pro. He's going about as minutes like a pro. And, yeah, I'm happy to see him progressing. Can't wait to see what he does. I'll talk about how BJ wants you guys to attack more and simplify that. How is that help you individually? Coach, BJ? Yeah. First of all, he's a great coach. He's a great guy. And his defense is something that like for like having a second year under that, I feel like I've been well.

1:04:36Like, I've been good for me. Obviously, just kind of get used to his system. I mean, he's the defensive coordinator. You know, he's a defensive coach. And just somebody who I can get behind, just like coach Sean. And just been working with him and getting better and understanding the defense more. I feel like it's going to allow me to play more free. And just play more aggressive. Did he simplify it? Can he keep it the same? The defense. I feel like he kind of kept it the same. I don't feel like there is no need to simplify it any more than it is. It's pretty simple for me on that end, I would say. And just our position in general. But I feel like he's done a great job with just helping us understand the defense more. And just the philosophy of it all and how it all comes together. And how every piece works together. I'm a big believer in the Lord. And just trust him in his mind and leading on him and leading on his understanding instead of mine.

1:05:39You know, I grew up in a faith-based household. And I just leaned on him for a while at times. And that's what's all about. It's a process here. As much as you want to say something different. Like, you know, I say, but guys, your time is probably the majority of the people that are free. Like, Jay Jay, like, it takes time. You're good. But like, it takes time. You're going to play a lot of things. It takes time. You're good, but like, it takes time. You're going to play with the guys. And you're going to take me and get them off the screen. And everyone's time is different. And that's what I've learned here. It's got to enjoy the process because it's your story, not anyone else's. And it's going to be different. Look, how much time are you spending at center? How's that split between center and guard? You've looked at build-up pushability? Yeah. I think, obviously, just what Coach Day said, just the narrowing down of the roster and stuff like that. And obviously, last year, what happened, you know, like we had, obviously, Seth and Josh go down. A lot of us have stepped up in different ways. And Carlson was going around the Garmin Center. I mean, like, we're all switch swapping. We're all switch swapping and cross-training because we got to do that, you know? Like, we got to be able to go play different positions. It's one of playing that in a fell.

1:06:39Coach always tells us there's only guys that travel. So, like, everyone's got to know a different position because someone's going to go down. And someone's got to be ready to go to that position. What's comfortable are you at center? What do you say? How comfortable are you at center? You're comfortable. Yeah, I mean, I play a little bit of a Brian in a family high school. And, you know, I learned a lot from Coach Kelly last year. With his NFL stuff, I think, like, because he's obviously coached a lot in the center. So, Coach tries well and I'm just, I'm getting more comfortable because last year I was doing a lot of season cues and stuff like that. For practice with starts. So, it's good. Look, are you asking about Ethan? Yeah. I don't know about Ethan. Oh, okay, okay. Is your primary position left barred? Yeah, I'm just switching around, honestly, right now. Hey, look, one last question. After the streets paid through today. You know, you and Tag Room, you know, that was a testament to it. Yeah. You're saying about Texas. Yeah, the execution was not playing. I also, uh, I'm pretty good at making questions. No doubt.

1:07:39What was it like to make hard moves that have been in the midst of it? Yeah. I want to perfectly block play out. Perfectly. And I'll give you this story, this background. So, last year we ran a lot. A lot of periods with streets and stuff like that. And we never really want to run in the game. So, we were always like toss it out. Like, what are we doing? Like, just, we never run this play coach. What are we doing? Stuff like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, um, we always joke about it. Like, it was the perfect play to the perfect look. And, you know, I'm not sure how much time was on the clock. It was like 14 seconds or something like that. So, we were getting out there and. I'll be lying to you if I said, like, uh, this is, here we go. Like, we're just going to run the clock out with this play. Yeah. And it was perfect. It was a perfect look, you know, it was a perfect play to the perfect look. And, you know, obviously with all the scheming and stuff we do. And obviously, we run into the plays day and day out during that time. And what we do now, like, The Montet Armstrong. It works because, you know, we were ready for it. And you got to be ready for it. And, you know, sometimes coach always talks about.

1:08:41Just, you know, like, when we walk through, we might only walk through play one time before we play the game. But, like, I'm not sure I also do that. And they got to be ready for that. And ready for that certain look that possible can show up. And that's what happened. And we ran it perfectly. And that's just a testament to the coaches continue to stick with it. And that's continue to stick with it. It came in. You made some ways of trusting people. What do you feel like you were able to do with your freshman year to kind of put yourself on track? What? Uh, what I really did, you know, I was in, I got a lot of hits. So, yeah, that really helped me out, uh, make a name for myself. Is that something that you take a lot of pride in making plays on the ball? Uh, yes, it is. What's the key to that? To that, just give back, keep on calling back, watch your eyes and don't make a play. So, how are you doing now, like, safety is your playing both spots in the screen? Like, how are you finding that to, like, uh, yeah, I'm adjusting really well to that because I just, I can just do more than just, like, one play one to one. So, uh, it's just, I just really, uh,

1:09:41what Ryan said yesterday, how you guys said the preamping things up in that even last week. Anything to add on to emotional? Can you give us an insight into how competitive this spring has been? Uh, yeah, you know, we're all just, we're all just winners, we're all competitive, we just, you know, one way and so... What have you been able to learn from peelin' down some of the early siblings? The approach to the game, how he plays, what have you kind of been able to take away every single day? Uh, really just like his mentality, you know, he has that dog mentality, so I'm able to just, you know, pick up every single day, you know, mentally and physically for them. How much does it inspire you to come in last year, see what Caleb did, see what Latham did, and, you know, know you have a chance to follow him or what's that? Uh, it's just, it's very special because, you know, I know I can be that great of a athlete as well, and maybe some men. What do you look at for this year is what do you need to do to give yourself a chance to get on the field more this year? Uh, um, just really, stay more in mind, uh, know it's my playbook, and hopefully just be better in talking to other people. You said get bigger if you put on more weight this last year?

1:10:42Uh, yes I hope so. What do you have to do right now? Uh, home, I mean. How much, how do you think that will help your game? Uh, a lot because you know it's a physical game, you know, you gotta be in, you know. How is, how is coach Garyary, how is it to you because that's a safe thing? Uh, he really knows the stuff, so just being able to take in every piece of advice that he knows, uh, tell the many answers. What's coach Patricia like? He's, he's good. I like him. Uh, he always talks to the guys. He's really loving, he knows about him. He's, he's, he's like that. Tim Mayton, better remember, yeah, I fall in love with that. I know every game is critical for safety, but in a game like this where they are lining up quickly and stuff, uh, is your job at hand, stumbling, or, he may be, or, uh, or complicated, how do you describe it? Yeah, I feel like, uh, one of the keys to victory is always, you know, communicating. You can't run the defense, you want to run without all being on the same page. So, yeah, I think that, you know, I say these DB's linebackers.

1:11:43We always do a great job communicating anyway, but, you know, in any game, you gotta be at the highest level of communication, I think that's what we're gonna do. And you're running back. Uh, what, what just jumps out to you about your couple of guys and talk about his patients? Uh, they kind of, you run intelligently for one of another terms. Yeah, it's a great running back. Uh, it's certainly patient, a great contact balance. You really gotta run your feet when you're tackling him. Um, and, you know, it's explosive and has that home run speed, so, you know, really excited for the challenge and excited for another great back. Rob Hall, our focus this back is far away. Yeah, a member who is just up there and he says, there's kind of neat, different players, who can hold coaches accountable in this program. What's that look like? How does that work? Is it, is it done quietly? Is it done loudly? Yeah, I think that's what's so special about our team is, um, you know, obviously when you say, you know, holding a coach accountable, there is no disrespect in that matter. As far as, um, as, we're looking for ways that they can make us better and they look for ways that we can make them better. So, you know, having that relationship, you know, just benefits the team. Uh, I'm sorry.

1:12:43Tony, I got you already. No, I've been on this discussion. I'm on the talk. Oh, safety. How much do you appreciate flying next to Cam? And what does he, maybe, he can't even approach you even if he's here gender. This is being around and watching. Yeah, I appreciate Cam. You know, he came in here and like I said beforehand, I'm such like a pro. Um, Cam, he's asking a bunch of questions, you know, what's the fun is learning as much as he could at such a fast rate. You know, continues to learn. And I think he just being with someone like Cam, just something I constantly compete with. Um, and he makes me better by doing that. So, I think we're always just in competition with each other. Obviously, it's, we support each other more than, I think, anyone else in this building. So, I think just having a brother like that, that I can compete against at such a high level, with also having the support from him is extremely special. Almost the entire season, you guys are playing lights out. Um, you guys are dancing. It could take that to win an actual championship. You know, questions coming up. So, why, who knows how we're going to go? If it comes down to you guys having to win, how much confidence is there on this deep as a view of the DRUG?

1:13:44You know, then the day we have complete confidence in our offense, first of all. But, um, I mean, as a defense, we got there every time we stepped on a field, uh, in the back, uh, and we're expected to, you know, get the stop, expect to win the game. Coach knows it's a great job, you know, of making sure that we feel that every day, I practice that if it comes down to the defensive, I mean, we need to be ready for that moment. So, uh, I think we'll be ready. We have time for just one more, uh, that special needs get ready. Come in, you're going to go in and fuck out. Lapen with the splits of Tennessee's receivers. How does that impact your job? Yeah, I think just, um, obviously, those are unique splits and, you know, why is that a little more on this more space? But, uh, uh, it just, I mean, just preparing for that game. I want to say really affects our job, but we just have to be ready for that. It's something that we haven't seen before. And I think our coaches and, you know, team has done a great job of showing us those looks, uh, to players for the game. Thank you very much. Thank you guys. When we want to play on a great team together, and, uh, we feel that there's something special that can be forged here. Um, but yeah, he's, um, I'm grateful to have him in my life,

1:14:44and, uh, hopefully we can, have at least one great year, but maybe, maybe a couple more. If it does come together this year for you guys, as far as, like, both being able to stay on the field, having the production, and then, like, what you're talking about, having that, that team's success. Do you think it'll be sweeter because of the relationship that you guys have sort of cultivated off the field over the last three years? Yeah, I think that's, you know, the whole team, and, uh, a big aspect of, kind of being a team, loving one another, doing team bonding, not just being work buddies that you show up, go home, do your own thing. Uh, you know, bud, bud had to speak in front of the room, whatever, however long ago, and he's, like, he's looking forward to kids coming up to him and calling him Uncle Bud, and, you know, having relationships with, with your, with your teammates, and not just them, but their family, their kids, and, uh, it's just that bond, you know,

1:15:44strengthens, uh, your motivation for playing. It's not, you know, it's not all about you. It's not all about your family. It's, if I mess up here, you know, I'm letting down, um, everybody. Um, so, I mean, I think that's, kind of, preached in a goal on every team that anyone's ever a part of, so, um, yeah, obviously, the more time you get to spend together, uh, the closer we get, and I think the coaches are doing a good job of harping on that and making sure that, uh, especially the, the ex-players that have come in, uh, uh, Coach Bowman has talked about her bunch, like, these are your brothers, and it's really important to, to grow that bond. So, when bullets start flying on Sunday, you know, you're, you're really willing to, maybe not die for one another, but you're willing to push it close to that,

1:16:44to that level, but, um, yeah. Um, and obviously, you start winning a few games. It's kind of easier for that, that bond to grow and get tighter. Start losing, you know, fingers pointing, bubble-bubble-bubble, this, and that, you've seen it all, but, um, I'm just excited, hopefully, to get off on a good start. Preseason training camp, all behind, how confident are you feeling in your new DC, Jesse's system, and is there anything that has been so dramatically different under, under him? No, no, at this point, it's mostly just new names for things, little tweaks to techniques that I've done, uh, before. But, yeah, I feel very confident, and, you know, I've recouched, uh, on the staff. He's a great leader, he, uh, takes command in, in the defensive room, and he's very straight to the, uh, doesn't figure coat things, and I think he gets his message across well, and he does a good job, uh, along with every coach in the room, uh, you know,

1:17:48making sure we're all on the same page on what we want to accomplish as a defense. So, um, obviously we get more time, um, it'll get tighter and tighter and tighter, and, uh, nothing's like actually getting those game reps, so it's, it'll probably, might, hopefully, we come out flying, but, you know, there might always be that a tentative first few plays, and then, we were counting on one of us to make a big play, and then just start rolling from there. Where are you that, uh, conditioning wise, after, you know, missing, obviously, a bunch of training camp? Um, it's, it's hard to truly know until you're out there on Sunday, but I've been pushing it, I pushed it really hard this week, yesterday was a real long day, it's been pretty hot, last couple days, so I've been really making a point to, to run to the ball, um, just getting a little extra running, every chance I can, every chance I can get on, on plays and stuff, but, uh, it's, there's really nothing like Sunday,

1:18:49and having to play for real at the next year, um, and there's always going to be moments where you're, where you're tired out there, but overall I'm feeling really good. So, mind knowing that you guys basically have a second line of, you know, Tule and, and Bud, so if you are, having a chance at some point, like, you're not, there's nothing like a massive drop off. Yeah, it's huge, it's huge. Um, if there is any drop off at all, it's a be able to have guys like that, which I've mentioned is like having two sets of starters out there, because those two guys can go to a bunch of other teams, and probably end up being a starter on the team, you know, Bud's done it for a long time, and Tule is always just improving getting better, so we're really going to have each other's backs out there. Um, we're really going to stay locked in on what the alignment are doing against each other, and we're really just going to try to, uh, bring four guys together, and, and try to get the most out of it, you know.

1:19:50So, I'm going to talk about the eight, one of the coaching staffs, it's kind of set to you guys, I'm not comparing you guys with this awkward thing, but it's on that. Well, it's been quite nice out here. It's, uh, a little cooler than, um, Orange County, so we haven't had any super hot days, but, you know, the last two, it's been warm, but it's all the, all the usual hydration, um, make sure you're taking care of your body this and that, because it, it starts now, um, a few days out from the game, you get a hydrate now, because if you start, you know, Sunday morning, it's going to be too late by then, but, um, you know, it's not, it's not the hottest thing ever. It's, uh, South Florida, yeah, it's, uh, we're out Carolina, so that'll be nice and cool, um, not, but, yeah, it's, it's a factor, but, um, it's always hot with the turf, but the sun shouldn't be beating on the turf and so far too bad, so, uh, just always, I mean,

1:20:51we're always trying to hydrate, right? So, if you're just starting now, you're probably a little far behind. Um, it's been great, so that's something I did too. Why did you start to feel confident when you think you're in your first season here? When did you start to feel okay? They, they were to ask me to take on a bigger load, I think it was fun. Um, I, I started feeling comfortable, definitely fall camp, you know, we started getting them reps and things started ramping up. I felt confident myself, so that got here, but I'm especially in the system, and I knew about the, you know, playbook and everything. I really started feeling like, fitting. My dad and my mind-match from, um, my dad from Cleveland, one from Yuckstown, um, and I just grew up watching a high-state, and that would always turn the wrong side. You can't go that deep through yet. That's the end of the run, that's the end of the run. Yeah. It was a long, long period. It's a great honor. I mean, this is RBU, and it always has been, since I was growing up watching them, and I'm going in line, potentially, you know, I got to work for it, but, you know,

1:21:51it's an honor, and I'll take a humbubing, you know, there's a lot that goes with that. So that's the first one I was going to be able to do. The first one I ever watched. You remember watching me? So I watched the Z for sure. Yeah, that's where I'm when I saw it watching the Z, the Z career. Yeah. James, can you describe the intensity that Coach Lachlan expects from you guys and practice? It's a great development, Sam. It's a hard to please. It's a hard to please. I don't know if y'all saw a little bit today, but he is definitely on us all the time on him. But he always says, like, today he encouraged me about my finishing. He said, everything was good, but he's like, you got to finish more. He said, I'm going to make you great. So that just shows that everybody's gamers always something could get better at. Always something to improve at, no matter who you are, how highly talented you are. You should get better at it because that's going to bring out the best in your favorite every situation. For the first beat of him, where in the world come the things that you got better at just from his table,

1:22:51and the chairman, is it guidance? You said first of meeting him? Yeah, for the first getting to know him to that. Well, I got to know him. He came down to the campus in Antonio. And the same way he is now. Yeah, I've been actually playing under for a while. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, wait, you got that question one more time? Yeah, no, it was one of the reasons. The question one? One thing I learned is definitely my tempo, my speed, and then off the field things, like just being the guy I'm supposed to be and being a leader, pushing myself in every situation I can to be better. He really just, he really pushes that aspect of just being better every day because he always was like to that same thing. You're obviously in a position this year that you're going to be in like a featured part of the office where it's last year. Take your time learning behind your A&B off of Wen Shan. How does that hit you? Is there a pressure with that? I guess what is kind of your emotions surrounding the potential to be a real patient for the office? No added pressure at all. I knew that I had to train Q-Rainer. I was like, okay, I just got to learn.

1:23:52So I have to take that patience with it. But no, your time is coming, but you just kind of wave. So I've been waiting for this. And of course, like I said, I still got to work for it. We got great backs in the room. But just hold myself to that standard every day and pushing myself to be better. You're going in the last year. Kind of a trash time you ever made to meet. Pop up duty, etc. Like you said, you haven't really gotten the show. What you're really all about in a game field. That's a hot escape. I'm frustrated with that. How did that help you? It's just an insuredity thing. You got to mature. You got to know it was like, okay, I got to win my turn. You know, there were both great backs. And I knew that I got to take up what I can from the situation. What I can do from the situation. I can't do it. Or whatever is needed. Well, honestly, I leave that up to y'all to describe. I know my game. And of course, this season, this season, they started. But I definitely say I'm like a slasher kind of back. But I'm going to get to see all of the side. One Texas recruit seemed to flourish at Ohio State.

1:24:54Why do you think Texas football compares you for Ohio State? You work, West. I think it takes me out the best ball, some of the best athletes out. So especially in the run-up acquisition. Because this is like that. Texas coaches and how we prepare. And I know we like, there's not every state. You know, you got all season football, all season. So I just feel like the development and the coaches, stuff like that. But I mean, just great players all around. But guess there's a trend. You mentioned, though, how about Terba Rogers? What have you seen in the back of the country? Terba. Terba's not here yet. Isaiah West. He's recovering. He's paying attention. But Terba gets here. He comes in this Friday. He's going to be here this Friday. How about Isaiah? Yeah, Isaiah. Yeah, he's been a guy. He's really dialed in. More matured in the mid. His age, he may be right now. Because he's healing. He's getting better.

1:25:54I'm pretty sure he'll be back for a fall camp. So we'll get to see him shine. I'm talking about a couple of lots of things. So he has something to do with his current. Uh, being, obviously, I need to be versatile because last year people went down and like, you got to be ready with your numbers called, obviously. Because we had Seth go down, get Jimmy go down. And like, you always, you got to be ready 100% of the time. Otherwise, you just got to be ready. You guys being there for a different month and 20. Yeah. You've seen that throughout all the guys on the list. I would say like half the line is doing that. Yeah. Can you come from Michigan? Like, that's not too common. Or a higher state player to come from there. What does that experience like? I would say it's not, I wouldn't say it's that crazy because I grew up in Michigan State fan. But obviously, I committed North Western. Because I never got, I never got really like looked at by the Michigan State coaching staff. And then obviously that they didn't have like a great, obviously.

1:26:54And I was, my last talk you got fired. So obviously, and then I'll have to say call me something like, you can't pass it up. So obviously, not here. What is your goal for this season in terms of your development and where do you want to be by time fall camp ends and the season starts? My goal is to skip better every day. And just be what I need to be esteem to go when games. Where have you been primarily working this spring? What position? Right garden left garden. How have you changed physically? Last year like, wait, are you up to decide if you changed physically? I got here because I came, I was in summer and roly. So I came in at like 295. And now I just like consistently through 15. No, I imagine I try to be away through 15. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You play both guard spots, I think you're saying, right? Okay. That seems like everybody would talk and just play multiple spawns. As you were saying, you need to be, you guys learn livestream. You have to be versatile in the old line. It's a good core about that if you would. Obviously, because it's not good when you're all American center goes down last year. But obviously Carson was a really good asset.

1:27:55So he started the year before, so he's really good. It's not like we had a big drop off. So we always got to be ready when you have a spawn. If you obviously illusion coach probably is the guy you've got a little relationship with. If you had any year's come on campus, but then someone coached, but when comes in and they obviously coached John, and they might know you knew from Purdue a little bit at least. Well, what was I like to hear that he's coming in? I'm like, oh, at least it's familiar in that kind of already. It's good seeing familiar faces. And yeah, obviously I like both of them. So it's, I mean, it's not really drop off. It's right. So it's good. Especially a very nice set of noise. Sorry, I called. I just walked out. I'm just going to go to the point. It's like Mike Spissy over there. Jerry's gone. Is he going to say any other question? Yeah, if it's in the eye. You know, I don't really let it get to my head because, you know, like I'm here, you know, I got dudes in the room that are, you know, like I just think, you know, he's in a big three-year start. I got to main first in all American. You know, he's going to play this year too. So I can't let what people say on the net, you know, get to me because, you know, anybody can say, oh, he's going to play this year. But you know, I actually got to prove it. So I just got to come out here, you know, work, you know, in that spot.

1:28:57What's your most important thing you've learned so far in your three months here? Um, competing every day. That's the biggest thing. Having to compete, you know, these guys appear to take winning and losing to heart. So, you know, my first, my first week up here when we did our competitions, you know, I was winning, then I actually, I got that first loss on my belt and, you know, it kind of opened my eyes to like these guys taking the heart when they lose. They don't like it. So, you know, I kind of got that now where I don't like losing. You had the opportunity to be around the team for that CFP run. What did you learn from JustBose few weeks seeing this team make that run? You know, being real tight with your brothers, you know, they're real tight. You know, they push each other, you know, it's a real brotherhood. They don't let nobody down. They always got each other back. So, I mean, it's a new team now. So, you know, we got to build that chemistry with each other, you know, just get tight. And I feel like when I was there for that playoff running and I practiced, when they were at the National Championship, you know, I just got to watch, you know,

1:29:57how guys are, you know, real locked in. They're close with each other. They're not letting nobody slack off. And, you know, I feel like we had the opportunity to do that with this team now. How did you handle Luke? You handle that first loss. That first loss, you know, it kind of got to me. It was the IGB, you know, he, you know, he let me hear. So, after that loss, I was like, nah, I can't let this happen anymore. Because it's like, now it's not high school where you used 17, 16 years old. And if you lose, you lose. Appearance, nah, if you lose, the coach will see that. So, and they're going to see how you respond to it. So, I feel like I had to, you know, open my eyes, I had to go and then lock them like, yeah, I can't let this happen anymore, you know. So, I got to grow up and, you know, these guys are counting on me too. So, it's really important that I don't lose. If you hadn't described yourself as a competitor, how would you do that? I'm a great competitor, you know, I like winning. Who does win like winning? So, I mean, winning is, it's in my blood. You know, my parents taught me that at a young age, you know, going out there competing for anything that you want. And I feel like if you can go out there and compete for it, you know, it's yours.

1:30:57And if you can compete for it all the time, who's going to take it from me? So, I mean, I'm a good competitor. I'm always going to go out there and try to take what's mine. If it's out there, then anybody can have it. And I'm going to be the one to get it. There's some roles in your room, obviously. Are you a talker? What would your natural environment be like? Yeah, I mean, it could come out on me, you know. But I don't really, I really know my game through the talk for this part. But, you know, if it gets there, it gets to that point where, yeah, I can bring it out. Because, you know, regardless, I'm not just going to let nobody just come out here and just, you know, kiss balls on me. So, if I'm having a good day when I'm consistently getting T.B.U.s, yeah, I'm going to talk. But, you know, being in that room, you kind of got to talk. You know, you know, you got IGB, you know, those real talkers in that room. So, it kind of makes you want to bring it out. And, you know, when we bring that out, that just brings energy out on the whole defense. And when you got the whole defense clicking, I mean, you can see, you can see what happened. Is there anyone that's kind of a competition in that? It was during the winter. We were doing, you know, just stuff on the field. We were just having the time of the field. Just a lot of competitions.

1:31:57So, I mean, he just kind of, it was a day where, you know, they had us going up against just the freshmen. And then they kind of threw us in there and fired against the older guys. So, we had to, you know, we had to wake up and, you know, we all kind of lost. And it all kind of like, we all kind of can't get that, the freshman group, like, what are we going to do about this? Because, you know, some of their kind of nuts to step up in those roles. Yeah, kind of, you're welcome to call it. Yeah, definitely, definitely, definitely, my welcome college moment. You know, you know, just showing that, you know, it's real now, a medal of high-oh-state. I'm not in Houston, Texas, I'm more in my school. Far from my family, you know, I got to wake up, I got to grow, I got to mature fast. And, you know, I just got to get ready for the next level. You've mentioned high school a couple of times. How did, you know, grow it out there in Texas, playing at that level? How do you feel like that helped you prepare a real high-oh-state? I feel like it prepared good, you know. I feel like I went to a power house in Texas. We obviously ran the Houston area. You know, we've been running the Houston area for a long time now. And I feel like, you know, we're a real college program. We live just like these guys who do the same lifts. You know, the level of ball I play, the highest level of ball in the Texas 6A.

1:32:59You know, we're going against guys like Dunkin' Bill, no college, those top schools, you know, receiving the coin more I go against. And I want to get some three times in my career. So I mean, those that really prepared me for this level, you know, coming in like, okay, this is not where it's a little school where, oh, they don't believe that I can come here and make an impact. I came from big schools, so they're counting on me to make an impact. I mean, everybody would say Texas is one of the highest football players in the country. You know, it goes us floated in the probably Georgia. So I mean, they're counting on me to be ready and that level of ball prepared me real, real well. How'd you do against DeCory? You know, it was when lose, when lose. You know, I went something, he lost something. So I mean, it's just getting better on shot from higher. Because, you know, he's the top receiver, obviously in our class. You know, I feel like he's going to have a good impact at Oregon. So, I mean, it's just, it's just, it's just, uh, just seeing what's going to happen next. Looking forward to seeing him again? Yeah, definitely, definitely. And you know, I plan on planning against him.

1:34:00We don't, we want to see him this year. Hopefully we see him in the big ten championships. So, you know, I want, I want, uh, I want that rematch, man. DeVa, you committed super early in the process six months after that. You shut things down when, quite frankly, someone of your caliber didn't have to do that. You could have, you've seen kids play the game a little bit longer than that. But you chose to not do that. It's kind of a lot getting here. Why? Uh, you know, because this was, this was, this was where I felt this was home. Uh, you know, I didn't really feel like, you know, standing Texas was a good thing for me. I didn't, I didn't feel like that was home for me. Uh, up here, I just felt like it was home. You know, because of all the, because they, you know, they're making it, you know, making me feel important up here. And then, you know, like you could ask, cause what, how many times I came up here, uh, throughout my high school career, I came up with 13 times. So it got to the point where I was knowing the guys on the team. I had the numbers just like that. When I come up here, you know, I don't got to always build the coaches. I can go chill with some of the guys on the team. So it was just, just me, you know, knowing what I want to play in my college ball at, uh, you know, knowing where I felt, uh, like it was home and then, you know,

1:35:00it was also my parents too, you know, my mom being, you know, feeling safe that, you know, I'm up here, you know, I'm handling the business and not having to worry about me. And she goes to sleep. I should listen to everything and, uh, they were with me and, uh, just easing their mind. That's the biggest thing. Easing their mind. Uh, they're all, they're worried and everything, but, uh, they'll be okay. They'll be good. Please, we saw the play with Elijah Moore, your head and your drawing. Say it again. We saw the play at practice. Yeah. Did you think, put it out for two weeks after that? Uh, I mean, I was good pretty much. It was that day that I was kind of had a headache and everything. But I was pretty much good after that. But it was just about going through the protocol and, I mean, there was no rush back. We weren't playing, uh, regular season games. So, I mean, I was just really getting the time to heal. It wasn't any rush. You both already had, uh, you know, a helmet to helmet, uh, just from your perspective, it has to be an expert. But are those doing what, um, they're intended to do, you know, you gotta take, learn it when he got to, you know, I'm saying like,

1:36:02you guys are still getting concussions and getting that wearing. Yeah, it's definitely still a physical sport. So I mean, concussion happened regardless. I know if you were in a guardian cap or not. Um, I think it could be looked at too. I know and just talked about it on the guardian cap. I don't think in the back that is much padding is, is I would like, but, um, I feel it could be looked at. But I think you get a concussion whether you were in a guardian cap or not. So, I mean, stuff happens. This is a physical game. Sorry. Would you just clarify this? You said you're going to get any helmet. Mm-hmm. Also, were the guardian cap during the games? No, I'm not going to. You feel good about this game helmet, yeah. Yeah. And I think that's what you're going to do. What's the name name and the brand of helmet? Like any details you have? Oh, I'm not sure the brand of name yet. I have the get it from those guys inside. But, um, you guys will definitely be seeing this on the, and how do you feel about not playing in a preseason game? Hmm. You have to say as your career, where it's not a big deal. Oh, I want to say it's not a big deal, but I don't feel any pressure, any like, oh, I just needed to play in a preseason game.

1:37:04I feel that's a great opportunity for the younger guys to get out there and showcase what they're able to do. Well, I still been practicing and playing and working out and getting ready for the season. So, I mean, I know the game, I'm looking forward to that first game. And, um, yeah, I'm not really concerned about not being able to get a snap of the preseason game. Would you think of how MJ did feel in the, particularly during the joint practice against Jefferson? Mm-hmm. Yeah, MJ is the number one corner. I mean, you guys see it. He's going to be big for us this year. And, um, I think that's what's special about this team. We got three number one corners myself, MJ and Greg. I thought we all number ones, and we able to do different things out there on the field. And, uh, other one guys out, another guy can step in and not lose track or not lose pace on what we got going on. That's what we're doing. MJ, MJ, I'm going to have to grow as a leader in the play of the year three. And he's trying to pick on this one as a guy that's bringing energy and also trying to bring the ball on. Yeah, definitely. Like you said, bringing, that's exactly bringing energy, bringing guys along. MJ is real vocal out there. And he competes as he's in competitor out there and just working hard

1:38:05and trying to be the best. He got the mindset of wanting to be the best. And he is. So we just go out there and compete with one another. Were you happy to see CD Lam get his contract signed and be ready to go out there and play this game so you can face the better? Mm-hmm. No, I'm definitely a happy phone. That's life changing, uh, contract and everything for him and his family. So, uh, definitely happy for him and looking forward to going to having that match up in the game. I always love going against the number one guys and best guys on that team. So I'll be looking forward to it. It tends to, we've got more to history and concussions that we're talking about. I think when you suffer the latest one, people who cover the team and then fans are wondering how loud a discussion, um, you know, could you compensate for tiring? For that, ever go through your mind or do you immediately know that you're going to come back? Yeah, like I said, this is a game I love, man. I love playing this game, being with the guys out here. I really don't see myself doing too much other stuff. So unless I'm just really physically unable to play this game,

1:39:06I don't see myself stepping away from football no time soon. So, and like I said before, I can't take it easy on these receivers out here. So, me being out here, I got to give them a good look and, um, just go out there and play. But I'll answer your question now. I haven't seen myself walking away though. Are you actually at a protocol now? Yes. Yeah. It is a great cold miles hard in this teal of the drafts. What have you seen? Say it again. It's a great cold miles hard in this teal of the drafts. What have you seen from that other camp and what kind of excites you by now? Yeah, Miles, he's been balling. He's been showing out, making plays against the Vikings and, uh, just making plays out here. So it was big for him to, uh, make the team. I was happy for him. We all congratulated him and, uh, he's going to be a big piece on our team, uh, like coming going forward. And so, uh, often another rookie you mentioned making the receivers better. What have you seen? How have you made Jamari talked about how you, you've helped him, you know, as a rookie. What, what have you seen out of him in his development? Yeah, he's been looking good, uh, since he came in. I think he's been getting better and better. Uh, he's night and day from once he came in.

1:40:06So where he's at now, I believe. And I think that's just, uh, his competitive nature and what he's been doing out there in practice. And that's going against one another out there. So, uh, he's been good and he's going to be a big piece as well. Uh, it's our offense. What sort of tips do you give receivers? How can you help a receiver? Yeah, I mean, it's a constant communication. Like if I were to win on a red, they may come and ask me, uh, what it is that you've seen on that play, that you're able to get in position and I'll tell them that. I may ask them a question. So it's just that constant communication on how we could get each other better. Thank you guys. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Glad to be back. I just... Uh, my ability with the ball. So I'm excited to do that this year. Uh, something that I really showcase the first two years. So I'm excited to be with... Is it something that I like to... It's something that I like to... It's a quick game element of it just getting the ball on your hands.

1:41:07Like, a quick game play action. Uh, more over the middle routes. Uh, it's a lot of different things that you can say that this guy's going to help that. But, like I said, I'm excited. How would you describe the students meet you in a Garrett? We're getting way better, man. I mean, it was our first year last year. So it was kind of up and down. But, uh, that's what it comes with the game of football. So, uh, we worked a lot this off season. OTA's was really good. And we got up to a good start these first two days of camp, getting extra working. But that's going to come with time. So, I'm not worried about that at all. We both, uh, competitors, we both want to be the best. So, uh, we got it. We got to do some to be good. Where do you kind of notice that difference? It's just like, feel on the route. What do you kind of notice now that it's year two, but it's more natural. What do you mean? It's like, dirt. For you when you're just going to work. It's just like, it's more than that, man. It's in a fail. Everybody, you know, everybody's good. So, we just got to know what each other is thinking, pre-snap, post-snap, cover-gaze, board of walls, won't go.

1:42:09Uh, just reese. Uh, what read I am in an progression. Uh, everything goes along with that. So, uh, just being on the same page, being, uh, like I said, chemistry is built with time. So, uh, just little stuff like that that turns into big things is going to be huge. You caught one from, uh, Spencer Routland at A.2. What do you heard early impressions from him? Uh, he's real talented. That's the first thing I've seen from him. His arm title is out the charts. Uh, he's, he's a real natural, uh, natural feel out there. Uh, he's, he's going to be real good. He's going to see him in action, but, uh, from, uh, from my first impression, he's, he's going to be a real good player. It's going back to the sheet that, you talked about all the different stuff he should do. You think there's still a lot more there for him? Oh, yeah. Uh, he hasn't really, I think this is the first year of being receiver two, or really receiver, we were, in my opinion, we both are receiver one. So, uh, just be able to move around, run real routes, um, feel like it's going to be a huge advantage for, for the same.

1:43:10So, uh, it's a special player and I can't wait to see him ball. And I can't wait to see him get more opportunities. And you're going to see what he can do. I'm wondering if I run real routes, he's just like a, get opportunities and all the run. Yeah, just, just getting more, you know, he hadn't really played too many plays his first few years. He kind of just get thrown in there when, uh, when he's getting the ball, or, uh, when he's a decoy or something like that, but he's actually being involved in the offense. He's always been in, um, even on run plays. I feel like he's going to be a huge advantage for him to get a feel for the game and be more natural out there. How far does it for a receiver like that, to shed kind of, you know, think of him as the deep threat level and then, so, people just think of him as a deep threat, but he can do more, how hard is it to kind of shed that label or that perception like? I mean, that's, that's what life everybody is trying to label somebody as, as one thing or two things, but I feel like you can showcase, I mean, that's not really who we are, you know what I'm saying? As you get, as you get more opportunities as you, as you can see, you can see you can do more and more.

1:44:11That's what, that's what anybody on the team. So, uh, I'm excited, like I said, and, uh, for his, for his huge opportunities, I'm going to get this year, and this guy's going to be a big one for the Saints. Does this, does this scheme ask for, uh, more blocking from the receivers? Is there more responsibility? Oh, yeah, for so. I mean, that's what I told you to, we both have the block, and I know we're not the biggest guys or the strongest, but like I said, we want to be on the field, we got to be on the field for the play action plays, all those things. So, uh, we both got to go block D-Lime and block Lyon-Backers, but that's what's coming football, so we both got to take, take, take that next step in our game. Is that somewhere there's like a payoff? Like, you guys know you play from play action next time? Oh, yeah, so, yeah, it's going to be a huge payoff. Like I said, most of our office is, it's based on play action, all the in-breakers, all the yards at the catch up plays, so we got to go in there and block, and like I said, take that next step, and be able to be great for our team. Like being here? Oh, yeah, so, after you outfield the weather out here,

1:45:13man, that's what I'm used to, not using the war, and it's out there trying to catch my breath, but it's a great opportunity for us. Are you going to chance to see family and friends at all? So, this is their football friend here? Not yet, but they're going to come by every song. Appreciate you, John. Thank you, guys. Thank you. Thank you. What's your name? I'm Eric, we're talking about a sale. I tell you about the actual roll-up. What's your top-up? I got a title. I got a title. I got a title. I'm Eric, we're a first time on Metta. We just found it really good. What do you think people in Britain say the top-up? You know, we're top-up. We're top-up. Yeah, so, like, we do the lot. What's the lock-in in the system? What's the win like for you just who you have to count for? And you being out of control of that? This is a roll-up. This is like, I love it. I love it. I hope you had just a little fun. Yeah, just a little bit of experience.

1:46:13It's different being out of state recruit here. There's a one-year-old just a footballer. That is definitely different. So, it's live here. It's a new generation of recruits where I don't think anybody outside Leckman will question the strength of your commitment. Like, you're locked into a last-day, you send it over and over. But you're making visits around the country. You see other schools. It's almost a totally different mindset. What's that coach in the American basketball team? How do you approach those other visits? And how do you communicate with Ohio State about them? What's been the message to the team? I just like the whole day. I'm always locked in. You know, I'm still on the door and the bus is just being through. This is only ever one time. So, you know, I'm really excited. Enjoying the school with that set of life. Yes, I'm going to be really hard to try and give you the flip. So, Ohio State, Ohio State, you know, is going to be. What is it that made you want to take home?

1:47:13Those hand placements, technique, and I think it paid off in the game. How did that sort of impact the game plan when you were talking about moving away from skiing or more towards those fundamentals? How did that impact you in game? It definitely was when you are playing D-Liam, and you can just focus on your man and get off the ball. I feel like it's a lot easier to play. You know that way. You just kind of simplify. I don't want to say simplify, but does it make it so that you're not having to think too much? Yeah, you can say that. You can say that. Not think too much. Just more so, let's get off the ball. What kind of impact did working with Brian Young, the Spats-Week have? The defense line as whole? Met a big impact. B-Y, you know, obviously, a little bit. You know, we went back to the basics just on technique, footwork, just the fundamentals.

1:48:13And I think that definitely helped prepare this for the game. Did Reale's rotations on the defensive line different this week? Just getting maybe more plays to sequence together, set a counter-retail while off? Yeah, it was more so, you know, six plays, if a guy gets tired, just rotate out, but a cool rotation. And definitely helped us stay fresh. Even that last drive during the fourth, guys, we were just a lot fresher, able to rest the passer. So I felt like it benefited us. Is there also, just like getting into the game flow when you're not, where you're kind of subbing in and out? Yeah, so you know, you can get more into it with them. No, definitely. Cam, I came up with that second, the fourth quarter, I don't know if it pushed him out of throwball range, but obviously missed the throwball right after that. And obviously when he makes a big play like that,

1:49:15how much maybe does that give a boost of adrenaline to the defense? A big boost, because you know, that's OG Cam. That's been his Cam right there. All you look at and just smile. But it was a big boost. You know, definitely makes you get on your horse a little more. And just keep your head down and keep grinding throughout the game. That's key, I'm impressed to you the way that he's kind of accepted his role this year. He's not playing as much as he used to, but obviously, and just embrace that and does it do anything for you. Yeah, I've been learning a lot from Cam, especially technique-wise. I would ask him about just how I would look at his old film, and ask him about what was he seeing during this particular play. But I think he's an awesome leader. He welcome me and my open arms come here. And that's my guy. Yeah, when somebody like Tyron stands up front of the team,

1:50:15I can play up to my own expectations. I will be better in the play. What does it mean when somebody hits the stack with a lot of people grew up watching him? Yeah, I mean, T5, he had to do, man. Every game, it can be your best game. That's the lead. But he came up clutch with a pick. Regardless of it all, he always finds a way to get an acceptance on the high-key. But he definitely, I smile at that too. I watched him high school, really just his whole career. So it's an honor to be playing with him. Rizzy talked about changes of things every now and then to make a key-grat body uncomfortable. What's the value of that from a player perspective? I think just in terms of, you know, staying uncomfortable, I think it's that mental aspect, going through a game, you know, things may not go your way.

1:51:19Just being in that uncomfortable state and always having the will to push and fight through. How have you seen the changes with the benefits rather that those changes that you're making this week are being like front-practors that scared the world to your position, broken and locked room? Yeah, I mean, I think we can see it, you know, during the game. We just watched film. I even know myself during the run. I was just in my hand placement. It was a lot better. You know, because we were just refining a lot of the smaller details that BYU felt like we needed to fix. So I think it's paying off. And you also talked about confidence, and then they go, from you all side of the ball, obviously, out there bigger, out there on the past week, how much is the confidence boost from what do you get from this win? Oh, a lot. I'm a lot. I feel like we, you know, we were talking about... And to be, and to be, and to be more disciplined, you know, and really focus on those, focus on those attributes.

1:52:21And I know if we do, that will carry over to us being successful in the field. Being such a veteran, how have you seen social media impact? Well, it's impacted quite a bit. Yeah, it's very interesting. You know, it's taking me, you know, I got a, you know, a while to get used to all of it. I'm not saying I'm great on it, but... You're on the Twitter? Yeah, but I'm on Twitter and all that good stuff. So, you know, it's been fine. It's been, it's been, it's been, it's been, it's been, it's been, it's been, it's been, it's been fine. But it is, it is having an impact on recruiting, for sure. Yeah. The differences between these types of style of offense and we can say it's the most spread out. How does that affect the year of James? Well, that's a great question. I mean, that was probably the biggest transition. The key was, was just, and one of the most exciting things for me was being able to be a part of this offense,

1:53:23because Coach Gundy's offenses have been the best, some of the best in the country, period. I mean, they've been awesome. So, I wanted to be a part of it. But with that, it was, you know, it can't just stay, we were, you know, ground and pound and we were a lot of quarterback running game, some of it, you know, and, but also just taking as much time off the clock as we could so we could keep the, keep the ball away from other defenses, you know, for other, other, other, other offices. And so, just slowing down and that type of stuff. So, here was playing fast and getting guys to, just teaching my guys to, you know, to get up and make the calls and get the points. And that was different. And so, but that's kind of where I was, where I was going to, where I was, you know, where I was, you know, where I was, hey, just being able to, to resource Johnny and Marcus, hey, you know, how'd you guys do that? You know, what, what were some of the things, you know, and Jason Meckendood was really helpful with that as well, you know.

1:54:23So, but it's been a great transition. It's been a great transition. How does your job interview go with Sean Wilson, depending upon who wins the quarterback job? One may even work over with the other, what is that kind of working relationship like? What's been great with Sean? Sean's awesome. I mean, I've said that Sean's got a, he's got a vision. He knows where he, what he wants and he's very passionate. He's a very intense, very detailed. And so, you know, he knows exactly where he wants this offense to go. And so, I'm really excited. I'm really excited to get a chance to work with him. And the whole offensive staff has been awesome. You know, Waz and Casey and Matt have all been great. So, it's really good. Coach Gondy talked in the past about trying to work for you, who can't escape before it, obviously, this time. But, yeah, those pitches, like in those conversations that I did with them at those times. Well, I mean, it was great.

1:55:23Coach Gondy's, you know, he's, me, it was awesome. And so, it just circumstances, just, for whatever reasons, just didn't know how I made it to be able to do it. But, but, but, but, I'm just grateful now for this opportunity. I'm just grateful to Gamin Call. I guess that's one thing I am very grateful for. I'm very, very thankful for that he, you know, he gave me that call. So, I'm very, really excited to be here. It's very inspiring, you know, me and Donnie were pretty close, like they talked to him a lot. So, you know, just seeing him move from guard to tackle and just make such a huge jump in that little time was just really cool to watch. Carter, especially the three primary coaches you're working on, do they all speak the same language if you follow my draft? I mean, who do you listen to most, I guess, in those kind of situations? You know, they're all from different places. So, at first, I think it was a little hard for them to mention the one that will link up. And now they've got it down, they're all sent as the same exact thing. So, that's been helping a lot. I mean, obviously they can explain stuff a little different if you like them to. Yeah. But they've been, they've been doing a good job of keeping everything together.

1:56:23And Coach Dickin, in particular, what's he brought? What's he brought to you? What are some tidbits or, you know, things he's brought to open your eyes a little bit? Um, just let a little older play saw. I could say he's not like too fancy on all the technique stuff. Yeah. So, I like just how straightforward he is with all the technique stuff, for sure. Just very straightforward. I know you know Luke pretty well, both of you in from Toledo. How have you just seen Luke grow here so far going into this year? I think, um, I've been watching him for a while. You know, I've known him like you said. But I've just seen him grow as a leader. He's been really cool. Just seeing him a while back, you know, I think all the software he's seen here. We always play to each other. But seeing him move into that, that leader role has been really cool to see. What kind of leadership is he bringing to that leader right now? Uh, just always talking to the younger guys, then encouraging us, you know, tell us what we need to do. And not only the younger guys, but the other guys just encourage us as a whole. And what does his story mean to you? I mean, obviously this time of year ago, he wasn't even sure where he was gonna fit in or whatever. Now, I've said, especially through the playoffs, he was a force. I mean, what does it just tell you about perseverance, but also a season?

1:57:23I think it really just never give up. I mean, obviously you might not start the first game. Maybe not even the second game, but you can always make an impact if you really. That's your desire. We've been leading on. So that's going to be displayed on team. Nice car. Kind of teaching the ropes and kind of teaching. Here's the trade. Who, you know, all the offensive lines. I would say Austin and Luke a lot. You know, I talked to them for your office, especially about techniques stuff. Austin's been playing a little different places. So he's been helping a lot of my small technique things. Just what to do for sure. Is it the small stuff that is a big adjustment from playing top? Is that really what kind of. Yeah, it's definitely the smaller stuff. There's like, you know, hand protection stuff like that. Nothing to address it. So it's been good. The treasure has been too crazy. What are exactly what positions have you been rep? Only a left tackle. Yeah, so far, you feel pretty comfortable there. I hope very comfortable. Yes, these are grown men. You're going against Kenyatta and Kaden, like 22, 23 years old. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Obviously, that's a lot different in the high school.

1:58:23You're playing what 16, 17, most 18. So it hasn't been a lot different. I first co-practors were my best. I've definitely adjusted pretty well this spring. Two more questions. I asked Jay about some kind of sampling. You guys obviously coached my was very close. He came with Toledo a handful of time. And then all of a sudden, by the time you get up here, he's gone. How's it been getting in there? The new offensive line good. It's been really good. You know, obviously, we had all the freshmen out of really good relationship. We coached fry, you know, men seeing him leave was actually a little hard. But we all kept our minds open with coach Bowen. And we're lacking him a lot. We've been developing relationships with him. And he's been really good to us so far. Good. All right, Carter. Thank you. Thank you. We're going to tie the end and then we'll get moving it right in back. So it's a diversity. We're going to be able to do a lot of things. Big body guy that we catch the bar. We can't run between the tacos. His feet are quicker than what you think for a big guy. He got really good feet. We get balanced. So that's what made some good. That's what I saw. Is it a comment for a bigger back like you have a possibility?

1:59:23No, I'm probably good playing company. Running back. So tie the end background. Well, tie the end background. I don't know many with that type of background, but he's a high school. We see that they try to play as an aspect. Well, really good. What are you looking at the portal for running actually? We want to try to recruit running backs. Does it matter to you if you have two different styles of running backs? Maybe one guy can do certain things better. One guy can do certain things. He'll just take the best running back. You can fight. Do you want to have different styles? Yeah, I want different styles. I'm going to try to take the same thing. We don't want to take the same thing. We want to take guys with different styles. Whether they're big guys, small guys, tall skaters, in-between attacking runners. I don't know. I don't want to take the same thing. They're all different, different backs. You guys have a wheel and clinch. I do a lot of that in slower red zone scoring. You guys are doing a hard job. Is it important to find the back and back of the size? Let's see how it has to up and down. What else is there? I have my own opinion on the size, they're going to come in the red zone.

2:00:26I had Jordan James out of order. He's my red zone running short yards. I'm a professional. Probably way to 2-10-2-5. Which is not very big. But they ain't got nothing to do with him. And some guys just got a mose sticking down his own. And you play with a lot of aggression down here running. That could be CJ, that could be James. Or it could be the freshman, though, Jackson. It's just who has no one to get an in zone. That's where I'm going over it. You don't have to be 62-24. No, just because you're being there, I don't make a problem. We knew we could obviously, you know, fresh running back to coming in. But what is there here? But what do you need to see from a freshman to feel comfortable with that playing? The first thing they want to do is they do a little small detail. Take care of the ball. The second thing will be how good they are in the past. Because it's the hardest thing for high school back. Because they're not really during high school.

2:01:27They have to understand the past. But all their falls on who? Me. Like Coach Day said, I'm a man, I'm a man. So that's why I need to see first. You guys, I work on this track for weeks. You feel comfortable with Bow and I say, whether I'd or at least, you know, whether I'd have time. Yeah, I think they're going to be fine. Like I said, I tell all the young guys, it's a marathon, that was fun. The first thing they're going to do, first you've been in the arm and spine, that's the two. You earn a spine and a special team. Then you earn the right to be a buck out of the, so they get out there in the field. I think they're turning the right towards you. It was your first practice. Like it wasn't there, something to build off for. I couldn't stuff to work on. Good? Yeah. Good. Long day. It's on the wall because they kind of just show us that we are kind of like, are, like, satisfied

2:02:27before we have. And we're definitely still hungry. Still won't win. I'll take it. He can take it. I'll take it. I'll take it. He can take it. Yes. Yes. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I'll take it. I'll take it. I mean, yeah, definitely. I mean, every day just having somebody to push you would want to be better and having those conversations. I mean, definitely going to need them. So I mean, we definitely kind of have to have them in the stretch. And it's just great to have them on. Let me see if I can say anything. Um, I mean, his personality is definitely from Idaho. So it's different. So it's. So getting to learn him and his experiences and his culture. So it's kind of fun to get to learn about him. And he just brings a different personality and just a different mindset. So it's fun. What does somebody do for you? It's just, uh, I can tell you. I mean, he works really hard to tell you that. So he's just a ball player and he's working every day. It's like having that with your show. It's definitely love Coach Patricia. He definitely brings a lot to the table and he definitely pushes us and he definitely

2:03:29knows what that next level mindset is. And he's kind of building it to us and day by day. What do you notice too that he's well, specifically maybe skewized whether he want to come up? Um, I mean, he's definitely just making, helping us play better faster, stronger. So I mean, it definitely helps us kind of push ourselves and it helps us get better day by day. Yo, I'm coming this in a transfer pool. You can be honest. You're a match. You get that question from some people. I mean, honestly, it's because we love Coach Jay. We came here for the coach and we knew he wasn't going to leave us and we put all of our faith in loving to him and he put it right back in dust. Is it feel like it's paid off? It's paying off. Yes, I do. You are leaving me. I definitely have no regrets. I love Coach Jay and I love being here and I love the city of Columbus. Do you feel like the playing days open? I'm just saying. I don't know. Maybe, I don't know. Going up again to do offends and tackle. How have you seen what you guys come along with? They're getting better every day and they're pushing themselves and you can tell they're getting better with their hands.

2:04:31The other safety is you should get them out there coming to know you everybody's doing. That's something you need to do. Um, I feel like that's communication that comes at time. Yeah, we got, I used to play with Lathen last year so that was a blessing to have him here and to have a year with him. But now, yeah, we got to learn to play with new people and continue to grow as a defense and have new people in different positions. Who's caught your eye in that secondary? This kind of making a move this spring. It's going to be an after-eat. I think everybody's done a really good job. I'd like the Leroy Roker is doing. He's stepped up a lot and had a lot of improvements that I love to see. J. Lit and Malik have played extremely well. So just low to watch those two guys continue to compete and continue to grow. And then outside those guys compete every day. Miles Lockhart just got a strike off and he's been playing really well. So proud of him and what he's been doing. But those are the people that I would just just deb and sent you as will look like what you would call a five star.

2:05:34I mean, when he's out there and stuff, what you know what I mean? You know what I mean? The guy comes in with a little bit of tarot. He goes back to a certain extent of what. Living up to a billing. How has he lived up to it, I guess? At the end of the day, even when I got to college, it really doesn't matter about your stars. You walk in and you're at the same type of stature as everybody else. So it doesn't really matter in terms of how would you walk in here with. He's done extremely well. He's learned a lot. He's improved a lot from day one to now. So it's been great to watch him develop and watch him get better. And he's made some exceptional plays and I hope to continue to see that. How do you feel like McAuree is helping grow as a player? What's your relationship? How has that kind of developed over the time that you've been here with him? Very football intelligent, very football first mindset. And I respect that as a person just to be able to go and have somebody with the same mindset as me. Coach Wallen has been a really good help to me and has helped me a lot on and off the field here. So I respect him for that.

2:06:34But Coach G is pushed me to increase and learn more football every day in our sport. Coach Matt, do you have any questions about your goals? Not before you got any. What about this new coordinator, baby, brings a new idea of stuff? How could you change your revolver? I mean, just being in new positions, the ability to play multiple positions in the secondary, playing Don and stuff like that, being put in different positions that I wasn't maybe put in last year to have different things on the field. I think that's a great thing. Always good to have versatility as I said and something I promise I'll have some luck. You can do more opportunities with your players. That's a good day at Coach Arksand so I don't really think about that. But if I get the chance to go back there, it'll be on and I'll try to pick another play.

2:07:38It's a light-blocking every day and I think that was a good card. It's been, it has been kind of weird to walk in here and see all the different pictures that they put up. Even the three from the play also. It's been great and then they have different pictures inside and everything. It's been good. It's been eye catching where you walk by like that. We just accomplished that but it's a great situation to be in. You might have been asked to talk to you guys a couple of you, some of the fans have taken that with the issue because you haven't achieved anything yet. You think one of the leaders is kind of like that. I mean, I think that's, you have to reset at some point. And I think at some point we had like, in the weight room, we had like, massages every stuff up there. And it was like, I mean, the new guys that walk in here, we have earned anything. We as the new 2025, 26 season, we haven't earned anything so we can't really take credit for anything that is up on the banner. We can't take credit for winning anything at this point. We have to compete every day with the mindset of we have to get better to be able to put ourselves in position to be how the opportunity to get to that point.

2:08:44Yeah, what is the lesson learned from an accomplishment like that? Kale, that you do carry forward. I mean, the lesson learned is you have to continue to work. Last year, every day we continue to stack bricks like he said and continue to get better every day. And I think that's why we came out to be where we were. And you can't just think about that from the moment that you get here in January and you start lifting in there. You have to continually push to be exceptional every day. And it's not really helping if you're just looking at stuff from the last year, every day. And you get the mood passed and you have to keep going. But I think the spring has been good for that because it's been able to be loud. We are turning to new leaf. We have different people in here. New faces and everything. And there's different people on the field. And we got to make plays with who we are. Coast State says you've been limited from participation standpoint to a certain extent, right? I was asked you want to go about the team. But what have you noticed about this team from a work standpoint of the catches your eye? Very competitive. I'll say people are trying to compete and push themselves every day.

2:09:49And it gets it gets chippy sometimes. And that's that's always a good thing. Especially on the defense. I have people willing to go there, willing to get to that age, willing to be physical. I really like to see that. I'd love to see it. And I think we just need to continue to be more disciplined, continue to work on our skills and everything like that. Continue to strive to be better. We go. Do you see your team that's not in my eyes? I mean, that's not in my eyes. They ask, I'll do it for sure. That's not in my eyes. The team that has so much turnover, you guys step up with the big ones, helping us to have a guy like Sunny. And how much have you been going to see him grow as a leader in these last two or three months? Oh, it's been an honor to see just because we've had conversations about it and everything. About how both of us are going to have to step into bigger roles and everything like that. But to see where we had those conversations to where we're at now, it's just an honor to see the growth that he's been a part of.

2:10:52And a part of him and he's going to continue to get better. Continue to be the person I expose to you. You recruited the other guys, especially on defense, but also on offense. He was a leader from the jump and being a buck I meant even more to him growing up in Columbus and Pickering, Tenoehile is family of just great people. And this is a guy who overcame some things. He just didn't come in this freshman year and dominate, leaving three years and going to the NFL to be a first round draft pick. I mean, this is a guy who, again, I say it all the time, you know, where's a hard hat to work every day, brings his lunchpale to work and has the respect of his teammates. And you're seeing his play, he was talking this year. So I know who he wants to play at his best, this game, being a captain, you know, again, you know, in August having his teammates vote him in was a big deal for him. It was an emotional moment. And, you know, winning some of these games has really built him more and more confidence in knowing that this is what he wants.

2:11:58You know, he wants to win a national championship more than anything. And that I think represents our entire team. I just think that this year with the 12 team playoff, it's just been a little bit different. And there's a lot of great teams out there. You know, a lot of things come into play when you make a run like this injuries and just different things. So we'll look at it at the end of the year and figure out, you know, the adjustments that need to be made, I think internally. But I also think that, you know, we all need to look at, you know, how this is playing and what this means, you know, playing 16 games. I think it's a great learning opportunity to see what that, what that's going to look like moving forward.

2:12:58But I know it's been exciting for college football and for their fans. Yeah, I think they do a great job on offense. Coach Dembrox done a great job wherever he's been. Riley Leonard's an excellent leader. Jeremiah Love is one of the most talented backs we've gone against and they have a very good offense align. The heavens is really good at tight end and multiple tight ends receivers are weapons. So, you know, they're going to, they're going to challenge us in a lot of different areas. And so we have to play big 10 football. That's what it's going to look like. And, you know, every play matters when you play any game like this. And certainly against this team, it'll be the same way. Yeah, I think we built, we say this in all the time is that, you know, when you have momentum, you got to keep it.

2:14:05When you don't, you got to go get it. And, you know, we didn't have momentum at the end of the season. We had to create our own momentum. And then we started to build some momentum. And now we have to keep it. I think the ability for our guys to sustain throughout the season has been significant here. And now it's going to be the best. It's got to ramp up. And again, the goal is to play our best game and to finish the mission. But, you know, we talked early in the season about building a foundation for down the road. And just like anything else, you build a foundation of a building. When storms come, it has to withstand those storms. But now we got to finish. We got to finish what we started. And that's it. I think, again, there'll be time to reflect on some of those things after the game. Right now, we're just going to continue to look at Monday night and play in our best game. You know, it's been, it's, it's been enjoyable to be able to, you know,

2:15:08to start it off with the home game against Tennessee and then went on the road to the Rose Bowl to LA. That was an experience. And then, you know, so went through that and then went down to Texas and, you know, played Texas in Texas, which was very much like a road game. And so now we're into Atlanta. And we have a lot of guys on our team from the Atlanta area, from the Southeast. So for a lot of these guys, it's like coming home. So that's exciting. But it's, it's allowed, you know, our families and team to kind of be on the road together for the last, you know, month. But we just like, I kind of say like we're like train rats. We just come to work and, you know, figure out what the next mission is and get back to work that way. You know, that's just really what it is. And every once in a while, you've got to come up for air and realize that, you know, it has been a great run. And, but now we got to finish it. And so, you know, every once in a while, you take a step back, but then you get refocused on what matters. But to your point, it's, it's about everybody, you know, and certainly it all starts with the players and what they do.

2:16:09And I think the, you know, our energy has continued to grow. I think, you know, we talk about like the mental fatigue. I just don't see that with our guys. I think there's, it's only increased. The energy's increased. The focus is increased. I think our team is fresh right now. You know, I think, you know, if you had to, we could continue to play for a few more weeks. But, but that just shows you the experience, the maturity, the depth that we have. And I think that's all important, but, but we're not going to play anymore. We got one more left. It's got to be our best. I'm sure that's that again. Yeah, yeah, we have, we have. And, you know, excellent football players with, you know, just great focus on family. And, you know, just, you can see how important relationships matter.

2:17:13And, you know, when you have an opportunity to recruit families and get into their homes, you got to feel for what that's like at home. And, and you can certainly see how, how, you know, in the Haitian community, family matters, relationships matter. So that when you bring somebody into your family and the football family, you know, they grab on to the culture. And, and it's been a huge asset to our team. So, let's say it one more time. Oh, I got you. Oh, yeah, we're kind of, I guess that that transition has been happening the last few years, but you can see obviously this year it's really accelerated.

2:18:16And the thing that's hit me is that, you know, we're, we're in the middle to late January. We're still playing. You know, some teams are, you know, starting spring ball in another week or so, you know. And so it's just very, very different. I think it's all things that we have to learn from when we assess what's going on. But it's been hard to take a step back and look at anything because, you know, you know, you'll have a short period of time to get back and win the next game. And like every single ounce of your energy has to be to go win the next game. And then you wake up and you realize you're on to the next one. And so we're not there right now, but I know after the season, you got to wake up, what just happened, you know. And then we'll try to assess it the best we can and make it better. I know there's a lot of things that we can do to make this all better. And I know institutionally we'll continue to make those adjustments, like you said, and do things the way we've done before, but also adjust. But also, you know, I think in college football, we need to look and see how we can make this even better as it's gone on because every year it has gotten better. And I think it's great right now, but man, when you think about the potential and what it can be for the players and these teams, it's pretty extraordinary.

2:19:26Oh, yeah, that's it. That's it. And I think our strength coach, Mick Morati really, you know, symbolizes kind of what that means. He has this old school work ethic, you know, because the line's still the line and the cone's still the cone. You still got to have your foot behind a line. You still got to run through the cone plus two. But there's so many other things now. There's sports science. There's GPS. There's a longer season. And so having to be able to adapt with those times is important. And I think it's the same way with our program and how we run things. And the tradition is not going to change Ohio State. And that's one of the reasons why these guys come here. It's one of the things we sell and recruiting. You know, is that, you know, just over a hundred years of football and the great teams and players that have come before and what the expectation and, you know, we have an obligation to be the best in a world of what we do. And that's the expectation, whether you're a player or coach and we own that. We absolutely embrace that and put that also adjusting with the times. And now we have a new playoff system in place.

2:20:27And so, but all that being said, here we are. A couple more days before the game. And we've got a chance to finish our season and finish the mission. And then again, cement ourselves in the history of Ohio State football as the 19 to win an national championship. And the third and over 50 years. A lot of good teams along the way. And that's been a message to our guys. And it's not about how you start. It's how you finish. I try not to get too much into those nostalgic thoughts because it's just it's a distraction. And there when you're in a game like this, it's easy to get distracted players and coaches. So what matters is what we do on Monday night. How we execute, how hard we play.

2:21:27And that's it. And then after the game, I think there's a great opportunity to sit back and think about all those types of things. But yeah, there's a lot that I could probably go into if we were to sit back and talk about what Monday night means. But ultimately we have to we have to go into game. And that's it right now. So 48 hours out. I know a lot of people want to talk about different things. We're just going to focus on executing at a high, high level. Everybody doing their job. And find a way to win the game in the fourth quarter. And that's it. I think in life, you know, you have to work through tough times.

2:22:31And it's how you respond to those tough times. And that's it. And that's been the message all along to our players. It's not always how how things happen in your life. It's how you respond. And I think our guys have learned a lot about that. And again, I said this before. I think there's some great stories to be told about. You know, what went on behind behind closed doors and, you know, some of the things that were said and, you know, the personal challenges that we had for each other and, you know, collectively the story. But the only way that gets told is if a banner gets put up in a hoodie. That's it. And that's the that's the sobering reality of this game that nobody cares about what you go through. And you got to win that final one to finish the mission. And so that's it for our guys. And, you know, as much as some of these, these wins have been great wins for us. You know, to me, you know, it's about winning this final game. And so all that being said, I think our guys have learned a lot about life over the last month. I think it's been a tight group. We've seen the good, the bad and the ugly.

2:23:32And it's a special group of guys that care a lot about each other. And they're going to go on to be very, very successful moving forward because they're strong. They're loyal. And they're very mature. You're going to see, you know, 10, 20, 30 years down the road. These guys making an unbelievable impact. Not only on their families, but in the community and in the game of football. Yeah, it's it's football. And, you know, I said my wife all the time, like that's we signed up for it. And, you know, it's the highest of highs and the lowest of lows. This game will take you to knees and give you some of the greatest experiences in the world. And that's it, you know, not a lot of people get to experience those highs and lows. And you have to manage the tough times and you got to enjoy the good ones. And that's it. And, you know, the more you're in this game, the more you're going to realize that. And that's it. And those are opportunities to show strength.

2:24:36And that's it. So, you know, we're counting on that to make a difference on Monday night. Yeah, you got it. Yeah, that's it. And set a great example for the younger groups. One of the good things about having 145 guys on the roster is some of these new freshmen and transfers that are coming in. Get to see what it's supposed to look like. Get to see great leadership. If this wasn't the case, they wouldn't have been able to have an opportunity to see what you know, a mecca book is like Wil Howard, Travian Henderson, Lathan Ransom, Benzel Burke, you know, go through the list Cody Simon. I mean, these, you know, Tyler Williams, you know, what does it look like? How do they prepare not only for one week, but several weeks. And, and these, these guys are, they're men. They are. And the way that they go about their business, not only they love being Ohio State fuck guys, but they love their teammates and all those things matter.

2:25:38And so again, they want to play their best game here and finish themselves and cement themselves so that, you know, when they come back, they can see that banner up there and you have a big ol' ring to show for it. So that's it. You know, we'll get back to the hotel here. Get back to work. Get to these meetings and focus on what matters right now. Yeah, hard to put in the words what Amecha's meant to this team or to me or to my family or to Ohio State. It started when he first got here. He had a different look in his eye. He's extremely competitive. No jobs too small for Amecha. He's selfless. He's really made it unbelievable strides in his life, but also just in his faith. And, you know, he speaks, people listen.

2:26:39He's very well thought out. He's sitting on a conversation with Amecha Bukka. You're going to walk away extremely impressed. And, but then when he talk about his play on the field, he's made a lot of great plays. He's been very clutch. He's been very consistent. And this is a guy I know who wants to finish his, fish his career out with a great game one at night. I think when you're starting out this season, and you're putting up a lot of things, you're going to have to do something to do. I think when you're starting out this season, and you're putting a roster together, you have to start from this game and move back. And I think when that happens, you have to build a team.

2:27:39I think now the Big Ten has allowed us to do that with the addition of some different styles of play on the West Coast. And then certainly the traditional Big Ten play. And then the combination of being able to get big and strong and heavy and stop the run and run the football when it matters, but also being a spread out game where you can be in a little bit of a track meet and have the skill to play with anybody in the country. And I think that's the combination that you need to have. And that's the goal every year to do that. When you need to go get that yard, you get that yard. And when it's time to get that stop, you get to get that stop. But also having the skill to be able to run with everybody in the country. That's how we start. And then as the season goes on, we look to identify the areas where we have to get better or whatever that might be. But I think it all starts in the off season with our off season program and what McMorradi does. And I think our off season program, and I know it now because when I see players come from other teams, you get great feedback.

2:28:39You get guys who come in from different programs and say, you know, talk to me about what your program is compared to our program. Off season, during the season, all that. It really gives me confidence knowing we're doing the right things. I want to know what the title is. I think every year you learn. And I think, you know, to be honest, I think, you know, every year I learn and grow. And it figure out what needs to be done to get it fixed and identify the issues and be honest. And call it out for what it is. And get it fixed and get it addressed. And that's what leaders do. And you know, they look out in the horizon and see what's coming because the soldiers are fighting right in front of you. And that's what they are. And so what's coming down the road. And then obviously what areas need to get addressed and get fixed. And that always starts with, you know, who's in the right seats? You know, players, coaches and staff, making sure that's organized.

2:29:41And then building it from there. And so every year you grow to try to get better. And then, you know, identify it the next year and move on from there and keep growing. And we all have to continue to learn. And I think, you know, I've done that as well. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Caleb is mature beyond his years. He's a tremendous player. But he brings a work ethic that's tremendous. He and Lathen ran some both in the way that they bring energy to practice every day. And they let their play do the speak, do the talking for them, but they're great leaders. During the recruiting process, I went all the way down to the wire. It's been told before and we were right there at the end. And you know, I wish them good luck and understood. I mean, Coach Sabin is a unbelievable coach and certainly has success speaks for itself.

2:30:42But also just as a defensive backs coach. And I totally understood and was pulling for him in his freshman year. And you can tell my family and my wife and kids we were all pulling for him because he's just such a unique talent and great person and great family. And then when Coach retired and he was in the portal, it was an opportunity to reconnect with him. And I think he had great relationships with the players and it's been great to see him this year really flourish within our culture. And you're seeing the best version of him now. Well, it's going to be a great environment. We know that great crowds on both sides. So it'll be electric. And you know, different than in the past where you kind of had these bowl game and then a final game. We, you know, these playoff environments now or something that we've become accustomed to. And so we need to focus on what really matters in the execution and find a way to win the game in the fourth quarter.

2:31:45That's it. You know, this is a team that continues to come at you. So we know what's going to take four quarters. It went all the way down to the last play last time we played him. And you know, we have to be prepared for that. But, but that's it. Great environment. You know, and you know, it's good to get over there today to have practice just to kind of see it again, feel it again. And I know our guys will be ready. All good. Okay. Thanks. One more question here. Yeah, I think he's built confidence as an offense, Aliam and throughout his career, and especially this year. And he's become a leader for some front. And we'll need him to be his best in this game as well. Thanks. Yeah. I mentioned this before that, you know, this is about these players in this game.

2:32:55And it's all going to be about who executes well during the game. That's it. And I think our guys understand that and feel that. No, there'll be a lot of conversation, which is great. It's exciting for the fans to talk about. But we know what really matters. And that's what our focus is on. It's executing at the highest level we possibly can. That's what I think. Definitely as a competitor, that's something that you compete for, to, especially as a team player, you know, to be at the top level, to go to the playoffs and be in this position. So I wouldn't say I would have guessed I would be here in this position now, but definitely wanted to be in this spot. There were minutes on the dispatch. We'll have the moment to the end of the game. He thinks about Jeremiah's same thing. He ended the play early in the game with a bubble. How much do you think about that? How do you, how do you think about that play when you for free play? Come on. You know, that's past us now. You know, that game is past us. We're looking forward to how we can come up this week coming up and win this game. And that's all that really matters, you know, as a whole, as a team. Everybody has that same mindset, that same grit and that same passion.

2:33:57So that's all that matters. That Murphy 24-7-4. You guys had some pretty clear motivational factors coming out of Michigan going into Tennessee with three weeks of a lot of talk. How do you keep that same kind of mental edge now going into this game? Or maybe there's more people talking positively without you, things like that? Yeah, definitely. Everyone just keep the same mindset that we had going into where we are now. We all have a big goal in mind. And we know what that goal is. So whatever it takes to stay focused, that's what we're going to do. It's a board, a podcast. Which on the way that you and Tray found stuff that worked with last week was that sort of the perfect design of what you guys envisioned a year ago, or you started looking at the South. Definitely. I would say, you know, our coaches do such a great job at that. And just getting me in there in different positions on the field. And just trying to be in the top of the player is, you know, whoever is on the field, you know, we're both going to do our job. So I'm going forward to it. Tony Gervin, fuck out how the...

2:34:57Trying to do you got games to focus on. I have you thought about what's going to happen next year, where are you going to be? No, as a right now, I'm just looking forward to this next game and trying to win it all. Any help with Quint John? Kevin Noon. Fuck out, how do I know it's looking back? We didn't have a chance to ask you. What's going through your mind on the first private... Where your first touch on is, when the exchange between you and Will, where you can the ball on your wrist. What is the thought there? I actually thought he was going to pull the ball and I kind of felt it and I just got an instinct. So I just kind of grabbed it and just took my best. Any help for Quint John? Quint John, thank you. Thanks, KJ. Ken Krenken off the bar. I'm okay like this is the real deal. Sure. How do you take that only fat moment and then go from it? I really just take that and I just, I just think I have the challenge. I'm okay like we got all these attributes, they got all these things but can they get past me though?

2:36:01Can they beat me though? So everyday just working on that just getting better and better. Have you used to develop strong race, Jimmy, tall and fast? Yeah, that's my dog. We came in together and just like talking to each other about the process, especially when my coach Friday left. And I was like, you know, what are we going to do with me? And then we just suck through it and then me and her now I just talked to them every day. That's my bully and working on different things because he's at the left. I'm at the right scene. Things from different point of view. So it was great. How's the transition going for you? I was going to be amazing. I feel every day get better and better. Going to get to the best every day. So you have to be on your AK and going to just do like CJ. That's my bully. Just getting better and better and transition. Just not an hour, half away from home. So this has been pretty good. You started for games last period and so those. What do you have to make you do with any of the members of those games? What do you think you learned? I think like for my role, I think I did just enough.

2:37:03As a person I am now, if I was a person, I feel like I would have done way better. But just going into that role, helping that's helping Minnesota. Do what we got to do. I feel like I did just enough. But there's always, I could always do. Where's always room for improvement? Where did you see the field? What's specifically what I grew up with? Pass, pro, and my first steps. Working on those things. I had to lift out the power. I just, I was all over the place. And just every game I was understanding how the game worked. And how to attack, how to be passive. How to work together as an online unit. Not to be by myself. You mentioned the first step. What about that first step? Really just make sure I feel powerful out of my stance. That was the one big thing I had to work on. Especially at my last school. Working on my stance. Make sure I can push off and like, gain ground. And I felt like sometimes I wasn't doing that. Even when he had to lose 30 pounds, he got here.

2:38:05Did you have to change from your body at all? Definitely. I was 320 coming in. And I played at 320, I felt great. And then they told me they wanted me to go down to 315. And I was like, nah, I want to do that. I got 315. I started running. I started putting on a meal plan. I started doing all this. I was like, oh, hold on. I see the vision. Yeah. I definitely changed the form of my body. My arm is steadily getting bigger. The weight room. It's been amazing. I'm growing every day. It's hard every day. But I love it though. Like, I'm getting work after practice. I have to do weight room. I'm cooked. But I can see the results in the games. What is it like, you leave a place. You know, you're probably breaking some people's hearts back there. Describe what it's like to make a move like this. You know what I mean? Basically, miss the college career. What were you seeking out for the evening? It was definitely a big move. What was I thinking? Just the development with knowing I can, I wanted to go and get some of the best dudes every day.

2:39:12And coming here, I'll be able to do that. Just a training program in the culture here. It's summer. Minnesota. So it was definitely like an easy merge. You had said, you were a question you hadn't really thought about Ohio State being an option. When the portal house quickly, the sort of emerge is what do you remember about just the way they're going to be? I remember coach Fry call me when I hit the portal. He was one of the couple of first people to hit me up. I was going to go home anyways, because I was going to go to my mom's house because I fasted. When I hit the portal, make sure I was making the right decision. And I was going to go home with my family and just talk about it. And my cousin and I were like, you're already an hour and a half away. I was going to go to my mom's house and she was up there. They showed interest and I was like, you know, I'm not sure. You mentioned the transition from fried and Tyler Bowen, just what's been like playing for coach Bowen so far. I don't really know too much about coach Fry, you know, just a little bit.

2:40:13But when I was in here, I definitely saw like dudes that we developed like I can see it on tape. Not necessarily like really see that practice, but with coach Bowen. Every day, just improving and he's just always telling me things. Little things, I don't even notice that I need to work on. Especially with coach Johnson and coach Dickey. Having no story in the room is probably the best thing ever for you. Yeah, I thought we were where we wanted to be. And when we were there, we made some plays. He was accurate in the game, but we were close enough to make plays. And that's kind of what we talked about all day and the weekend. And we execute. After the game, the linebackers seem to all say they felt like they had a really good idea of what he was going to try and do, where he was going to throw the ball to whatever it would be in position. But did you go into the game feeling like what we have is a lot of good prep in this game? Well, we have some, I'm not going to cut you off there. We have some outstanding assistant coaches and they did a tremendous job. Right, Manalack with the linebackers.

2:41:14Kitchener exactly where to be and how to be there. All the fears I have, I relate to them, obviously. I thought Tim Dowsett, the line was incredible. They're all over the place and they continue to get better. And then, you know, Archie Collins and Grace Anders, the secondary, was around them all day and did a nice job. So I give all the credit to those guys. Without those guys, you know, we don't get it done the way we got it done. They had them well prepared and all credit goes to them. Is success on defense 50, 50 thing, 50, 50 film study, 50 athleticism? I believe so. And I believe to the point I just made, you have to also have some coaches that can teach them what we want, how we want it in the game plan. And I think they do a great job of that. I have a game plan in my mind and I relate to the coaches and we all get together and form a solid plan. And I thought they got it to the kids and the kids execute it.

2:42:15So being a smart guy just as important as being a bad guy? Absolutely. Being in the right place at the right time, being in the right place was an intersection, there was nothing more than being in the place he should be knowing what was coming. And same with love plays. It seemed like in the game on Saturday night when SMU put against two, they seemed to utilize it, seemed on the perimeter, or there were screen passes or wide runs, things like that. Do you expect them to try to test, I mean, even though they're outside of my back here, it's just had three intersections on us, would you expect them to test those? Well, that's what their offense is. I mean, they got great skill and great speed and the way you make it hard on the defense is to spread everybody out and make it be one-on-ones and, you know, how run them, making this, those kind of things. So, yeah, I would expect them to run the offense. They've been doing it for, you know, a lot of weeks. So, I have a lot of success, and I'm sure they will continue. You shot my under-duelist, those new starters that you guys have written in the beginning of the year.

2:43:15Where are they now, compared to whatever we want? Well, I think they are doing a great job and they continue to get better. And I believe the whole defense is continuing to just make a step each week and, you know, consistency is all that matters in college football. And it really does in life in 18 to 22 year old men. And that's what we're trying to teach them. Jenny said, you were going to struggle Saturday night. What do you see from Jenny's priors that game? Well, I don't know if he had as much struggle as, you know, the ball just came out at times, but he was close in all those situations to make big plays. And I thought, you know, he made them, but then, you know, they had problems either somebody fumbled it or he did or whatever. You know, you have games like that and I give them credit they didn't have their best game and still found a way to win. Not to get into too much specifics, but it comes into defending our views and how you guys look all over the last few years, you think it would be much better out of them if you worked a few years ago.

2:44:16Would you have treated that more to changing what you guys do or the players just giving you a better idea of how you want them to defend it? Yeah, I think a little bit of both. I think we're all learning as we go through the process. You know, that has become just norm anymore. So, you know, you have to evolve and you have to change some things and we've done that. I think our players are used to it more because they see it more. So probably a little more important than that of someone. Shondra, did it happen any more? Oh, Shondra has a great impact. It's been nice to have him back and he's done a great job and all those guys continue. It's nice to have a few reps off for some of the other guys because we're playing a lot of reps. All good? All right. Thank you. Thank you. It's all the content you're having here, obviously. That's my great process. I have to make it happen. As you go along in your spring practice, what have you learned from him and is it kind of what we expected to be? Just so for sure. I feel like in the recruiting process, he kind of let you know how he wants to control stuff.

2:45:19I feel like when you get here, it's a whole other level. He's going to keep coaching well. He's going to be hard on you. He's going to tell you what you're doing. He's going to tell you what you're doing wrong. And he's going to push you to be your best. They have been moving all over. Yes, moving all over. Yes, sir. What was it like for you to get to be here and see this team win an Arsenal Championship in the first few weeks on campus? It was crazy. I feel like I knew that they were going to do it from the beginning of the season. I feel like they always had the potential. And then they came out here that did it. And the freshmen, we had an opportunity to sit there and watch it. So I feel like now we just got to do it again. What did you learn from that? It's watching about me. It's just all hard work. And it's just a bunch of guys. And it's really a brotherhood. And it's really just our family versus their family. And we just got to persevere. And we got to win the games and give back to the net. The first outline was saying that Carm Allen ran and have really been leaders in the run. So far so far so here. What if how have they both been leaders for you and the every young seevers? They've been leaders just in multiple ways. Whether our column, we're in the film room together on the jugs.

2:46:21I'm asking them about this route. How I can run it better. I'm asking them how I run this route on this play. Just many different things. I feel like those guys, they're like big brothers and all that does help me. A valuable is that to have guys that are playing football. Also a bit of college for a while. So we're really good at asking those various things about college life. How valuable. Is real valuable for sure because they're they're friends around pit guys. So I feel like just being in a room with those guys. And if you're able to thrive with those guys, you know, some's going good for you. What are your impressions of that? What are your impressions of the champion? What are your impressions of the champion? What have you kind of known about him and learned about him? I had a, I always had a good relationship with Tavion. He recruited me hard to come here. So I feel like we always talked and he came here and he's been doing this thing. They've all been doing their thing and Julian saying he's another Cali Kissel. I had a little relationship with him too. So good to see Julian, Lincoln, Ed, Tavion all doing real good. What is that next step for you, Julian?

2:47:21What are the terms of evolution of your game? What do you want to get better at? It's great. It's great. I just really just everything. I feel like you can never be too perfect. And I feel like you just got to keep doing your job. So I say maybe just just showing up more and just doing my job to the tee. Going against these corneries or these TVs, how does that kind of lead you better? It's their pretentious. In high school, I had a five star corner DJ DJ on Lee. He's at Alabama. So I always had good work with corner. So I feel like it's just a lot, I'm going against a lot of good guys now. Instead of just being one on one that practice with DJ. So it's real good for sure. Does it take more turns to play this lot? Should I get pleased? Does it take more courage to play this lot? It's a lot easier than that. Because there's more stuff. But I think there's bigger headers inside. You have to have a... You've got to be aware of it but there's a lot of things that you can do. I guess you can say that. I feel like I've always played slot and I feel like that's what I've been better at.

2:48:22So I feel like it's just what I have to do to be on the salt. No matter who's in front of me, how big he is, how strong he is. I feel like if I got an assignment, I've got to do it. I need to go out there and be a bit... Okay, well, anyway, the fact that the way that this DJ fans has additions on every level, we talk about chasing the people to mine and the traffic there. You guys have willing to second level in the third level, and hopefully to go on with Sean and the rest of them. How much pressure is on this DJ fans to perform to the higher level of expectation in the last two years? Right, I would say that last year was... You know, we excelled in certain things, but we were also trying to get back to where we were in the past. So we got some great additions and we're excited for that. Ultimately, it's to use some of these guys to be the number one defense in the league,

2:49:22and that's always going to be the goal. So whatever we can do to utilize all the different talent that we have on this team to be the best and play as a team and to develop the best chemistry that we got, that's what we're going to do. What's the answer about this offense? Just early, just early in the game. What's the answer about that? Yeah, we're not used to going against the normal offense I have been the past three years, so it's been a lot more moving pieces. Definitely have to use your eyes pretty well because if not, then somebody's going to be open. But I like what they're doing. I'm very excited for it. I just know it's making our defense a little bit better because we're having to do different things, not just the normal offense we've been used to. I was going to say just because every other team has some variations that they were going to see, does that kind of... do you think that'll kind of benefit you because you're seeing that more than the person. I would say so. I mean, as the league has changed over time, I think they revert to certain offenses that do well in certain systems.

2:50:26I would say we're taking maybe a little bit pieces from other offense that we see to do well. So I like what we're doing. I mean, I don't know as much as some of these quarterbacks that we have on the team, some of the offensive players, but I just know it's tough to go against. Hello, second number last year, but still one of the top teams going to defense. What do you guys really need to do to finish after the quarterback? Yeah, I would just say place heavy emphasis in practice. It's always going to start in practice with getting after the quarterback, not touching him in practice, but making some good moves. I would just say rush more. I mean, there's so much that goes into it, goes with the coverage. Everybody works together. I would say that we had great numbers, but we are trying to get that number up. But the ultimate goal is always going to be the ball, getting the ball taken away, getting off the field, we're putting our offense out there on the field, and we're staying off. That means that we're doing a good job.

2:51:28And you already asked about it for my competition standpoint. But from my collective standpoint, having new wins tomorrow, we're going to be on the field. What kind of a tree-o-kind to do for a defense. In the sky's limit with this group, I do believe we have one of the most talented linebacker core groups in the league. So just excited what we're going to be able to do out there on the field. So I think we all compliment each other super well. Bigger guys that are explosive. So I'm excited for it. Appreciate it. I learned, so do I. I'm right there. I think we're all trying to learn this together, even, you know, approach over on a little bit. And we're hitting the ground running back. It's exciting. Those two guys there are especially in the field. I think that you're going to have a right there. You didn't think it would be possible to go to the hands of a professional. It's hard to say. I would probably say the draft would have been my, you know, I was talking to some other schools. You know, Miami and USC were in there in the mix.

2:52:31But it was really, I would say, here in the draft at the end of it. You know, there was a lot of different things that went into it. It was a long hard process. But yeah, I would say, I mean, that was probably the most likeable. When you first thought you talked to about the weight of the rack in the cockpit. I mean, I think it's going to be fine. How did the pilot base of the ball come back and extend the main cockpit? I mean, nothing, nothing crazy. You know, it was just. Thank you. Appreciate that. I'm a fighter fan. Yeah, I appreciate it. Yeah, there you go, a little sidetrack. But, uh, no, I, what was the question again? I'm sorry. Spider-Conswerer. What's up? Yeah. Yeah, no, it was. I mean, it wasn't really anything crazy, I would say.

2:53:32I mean, I just, you know, nothing really changed. It was really kind of, you know, they were kind of holding me off a little bit. So, after that game, just in fairness. You know, I was, I was patient and waited my time. And, you know, it all worked out. Did it come to you? No, it was going to make the point. It's hard to tell. I don't really know. It was a world end of a process. I started hearing initially they might be interested, but I didn't really hear anything directly. You know, really getting in like, I really started to feel that interest. Did come to say let you know there's a change coming. Good core data. A little bit. Yeah, I kind of figured that. I didn't know for sure, but he kind of hinted at it. And, you know, his point was, you know, it's in the best interest to him and the team. I was all in. You know, I completely understood, you know, the decision and why he did it.

2:54:36Your conversation with the team, what was this defense about years being during the other career? Yeah, I mean, there were a lot of things that were said. You know, a lot of things that, you know, were attractive to me about this offense and about what he kind of thought about my name and how he thought he could, you know, elevate me to where I wanted to. Where I wanted to be. And, you know, I feel like one of the biggest things was how close dial the offense is. And, you know, a lot of these other schools that I was looking at, you know, maybe these air raid type schools. You know, they got great offenses. And, you know, I could put up a lot of numbers, but I don't know how much that was developed. And, you know, playing in a system that coach Ryan, which is a music, I'm using for the big crowd, how much. How much better can you prepare for the NFL than with somebody who's coached at a head coach level and an important head level at the NFL? You know, there's just all the things pointed to.

2:56:08Maybe you know, just that adversity back up is just a very good thing to have in the NFL. It's just more so, you know, just the whole thing, like, I was saying just there were the real coaches. The coaches. That's what the more than food that is, you know, to be honest. I have, and I recently just got here, so I haven't found too much like different places yet, because I've been trying to hold the man and be acclimated. I'll for sure find some couple spots. What are your impressions of Will? I mean, I know that Stan's going to have a backfield with potentially transverse running back. Before the back-out, how many of you guys have talked about him? I mean, through this, not recruiting process, but transverse process. Yeah, immediately when I got here, you know, me and Will, we've always been in contact. You know, like, just checking on each other, hanging out, no matter what it is, just having their personal connection with each other, off the field, and having their relationship. So, it's a great time. Did you ever, did you ever see an official try, when you were talking about thinking about coming with him?

2:57:09Did you ever see an official try, about what you was doing, or what stuff that brings all the way through to him? Like I said, like, I think with the time that I was in the portal, it was such a shorter amount of time in the process. So I think, you know, just trying to decide on where I wanted to go. I wasn't really focused on contacting anyone. And you've been to Ohio, and before? No, there have been so many. You know where I was? But nobody was, man, there have been so many. Okay, please, come down. You know, the first time you've been in the portal, I said, please understand what I'm saying. You know, that's the thing. What's that process like from life, from your point of view, where I'm out, and what's that life that I've been doing? Yeah, when everything, I agree. I think, you know, when everything's moving so fast, you have to stay poised as a player and focus on the things that matter, and that'll put you in the best position. And I think that's what it's really about for me in my process. Who was here about the trade on the tire?

2:58:10What's that all factor on the use of starting to build up the making of different things? You know, that definitely plays a factor, especially in today's game with 5 standard friend backs in the end. So I think that, you know, with the, like I said, the situation here just made me able to come here and contribute to this team and do what I can when it all. What did I mention? I can't imagine being real and curious, or something. You know, like I said, anyway that I contribute to the team and do what I can to show and execute, that's what matters. You're giving up the power of the new players, the trade use, and there's a little bit of carries up there too. You like that and you think of that part of the curve, you know, you said from the outside to the other. Yeah, and not just that team as well. It's many other teams that do the same thing, you know, and I think it's just really special that what they've done together, just seeing how they play together, how far they come to see themselves, really special. The not just that, but how much carry the day in time last year, having a quarterback that can run,

2:59:13or to running back, and then is that how much does that accept you to have a side field, but that option on the hook. It's very exciting just to know we have so many weapons and so many different ways to win the game, so it's very exciting and I'm looking forward to it for sure. How do you start to rationalize that decision that you're going to have to stop that? I don't think it's something that you more so just specifically think of, but I think it's something that's important in today's game that has to be valued as well. Did you feel like you were overused at old men's side? How would you describe it? I wouldn't really say overused. I don't think that's the word. I think, you know, just when you're playing, you don't focus on those different type of things, but, you know, like I said, you don't really talk about it. There was much made though about using what you were having, a meeting with Coach Kidney, something about the direction of the offense. How much of that was true, I hope I never would have seen it. Was that any of that true, or just, you know, what was that all about?

3:00:13No, just true. But I got to say man, like a lot of people, they won't be happy when you make certain decisions for yourself, but just to sign you to be in it. Did you enter it thinking, oh, how I was staying here, I just walked up here a second ago, but you probably went all over this, but when did a house date get on your radar? It's impossible, they didn't explain it. That's your opinion. Immediately when I got in the portal, you know, I think, like I said, this is the place that you want to go to, you know, a place where everyone's passionate and everyone wants to win here, you know, and there's a great culture and everyone's focused and doubted in. And you know, why wouldn't you want to do something like that? A lot of people are saying you attribute on it, and saying back feel and even having down in there, there's my people that's running back through some in the country. Do you feel that way also? Definitely. I feel like, you know, with everyone in our room, they contribute in their own way. Everyone is a great player in our room, so I definitely agree.

3:01:17I think more so for me, it wasn't about this where I want to go immediately, but I think that I wanted to make my process pretty short, especially when I got in at a later time because I had to be in the middle of school. So I think just more so, just figuring out where I wanted to go and, you know, making a decision as soon as possible. Just like I say, the meetings, what Coach did, everything that I was showcased. This is just the place that you wanted to be. Two quickies, the name Quint Shawn, what was that company? That was the K-4 fans. I know, but I mean, what is your background? I really don't know. I've never asked my parents that question. And then, the hairstyle, what's that? What's the juice? I came up with this hairstyle in March of last year, so I just decided, I was like, okay, I want to die after I had one.

3:02:21So I just went with it. I got a lot of great company, so I came with the same one. Blondes have more fun or have more fun. I'll see more. I'm just, you know, I embrace it well. That's what everyone here works hard for. And that is the in-call, you know, it's not to get a certain amount of wins. That's the goal. That's what everyone here wants to win. The National Championship. So I take it seriously. Everyone here is called in, you know, whatever it takes to get that in. That's what everyone's trying to do. You're going to have a different perception. I'm going to put it in my head. I have a player like only in the wood here in here and I have a company that has a holiday view, kind of put all that all of them in the background.

3:03:27You know, you don't focus on things, like I say. The most important thing is playing football, especially for me, you know, the NIL, that wasn't like, you know, something that I was focusing on. I was just going out there playing football and doing what I did. Which I'm sure you could have gone for a lot of places with the big guy running back. Is there a peel in coming in and sharing the load with Trady. You know, I think just more so, the situation here, like I said, just coming here, being not only with Trady, but just great player all around, and being able to execute and contribute to this team and do what I can to help us win. That was the most important thing. Was there any thought about, like, you know, taking some tread off your tires, like knowing that you have had something carried for the first two years? I think just, like I said, like in today's game, that's something that is important for running back, you know, to be able to value and to think about as far as the shelf life and things like that. But, you know, just in my situation, come here, that was the most important thing. But, sir, thank you. Thank you. No, thank you.

3:04:27It's like exactly like every little detail with the D lines, knowing. That's not really what I didn't know every little aspect of it. I think I'm starting to learn that now, because obviously, line-back, you've got to be knowing that more. So, I think when it's all said, no, I think we have a really, really, really good understanding of defense and knowing exactly what everyone's doing. Do you feel like you're warm enough to remember the makes of the defense too, and line-back here is not exciting because you can be dropped in one minute, pass-rescuited, that you or me, you can... I can't take any of some of that anyway. Yeah, I actually said that. I think you can say, being a line-backer in the play, you're almost in every play. Yeah. Obviously, the play can run away from you, but you know, it's safety. Sometimes you're just back there, playing every guest. You take two back battles, and it's a tackle. So, I think, yeah, line-backer, you're in the play more. More opportunities to make tackles. Can you feel comfortable there? I mean, what does... you know, obviously you're dan, staying that line-backer. Yeah, I feel super comfortable with it. Like I said, I think it's just going to be adjustment. Obviously, it's different playing from a five than it was from playing from like 10 last year. So, I think it's an adjustment, but I'm super comfortable with it. So, are you talking to your dad and giving you any advice on the new position?

3:05:27Oh, yeah, we watch the table all the time. Watch practice. You know, he was a high level line-backer. You know, I'm just getting started with this. He gets a little shit with a little footwork and stuff like that. But it's good. I get good teaching him. Obviously, Coach Lornitis, great player, great teacher for him, coach Moles. You know, he's a super smart football mind. So, I'm getting great teaching all around. The line-backer, everything happens quicker for you. How much did the experience playing some of that stand? It's got five straight open. I think it helped a little bit. Let's just be like in terms of physicality like being in the box down on the line. But I do think the run fit as a will and a Sam can be a little different. And like I said, like being an interior fitter, like your 30-backer, you know an A, you get pools, like you got to go spill it. So, things like that. But I think I'm adjusting well. I think I'm picking up on stuff pretty fast. I'm still going to be a lot of stuff to work on though. Do you feel more pressure talking to the media with your brother sitting right there?

3:06:30Not at all. What do you think has been the biggest change from a line-backer and safety climate? I think the biggest change will probably be that 10 to 5. Because it's a big adjustment because everything's happening faster and you got to react faster. And like I said, the waist and movements. I think footwork is huge. I think when you see the great line-backers, seems to play happens are going. They're not taking any waist steps or not fall stepping, things like that. So I think waist and movement and being able to see what's happening react fast. It's been a big spin fitter between being able to stay in the same team with your brother. I mean, you know you got someone out there that's, it's more than a team. You know, we call each other brothers, but you know, bloods, bloods a little thicker. So that's always pretty cool. You know, it's always, it's never one on one. Yeah, but he tells you something he doesn't observe about you. You know it's coming from. Yeah, I think when you're blood like that, I think he's not scared of telling me the truth, you know what I'm saying? Yeah.

3:07:30You know, obviously guys here, we have tough love, but I think it's always going to be a little different when it's your brother. Because he's going to keep it 100% blood exactly what you need to hear and I want you to want to hear. What's your advice on playing Dickel? Oh, for him? I mean, he just so I've let it hit you guys keep trusting his instincts. I think he's going to be great. I think what's huge for him is like I said, the athletic ability speed. You know, he blitz off the edge. He's, he's blitzing super fast. And he's just great in coverage too. So I think something really good. I think we'll do a lot of different things. Kind of like you see a hand caught. Obviously a little different body than a hand caught, but I think he's going to be really good at once. I feel he's, he's, he's just telling. And go out there and try to put yourself on a map. It's starting early. It helps you with your growth as a player and as a person and learning who you are. And just having that mentality to compete and have that job.

3:08:30I would say just at my position, really something that you can always work on is just past pro. It's just one of the key things that you can always get better. And no matter if you're really good at it or whatever the situation is, it's something you can always critique yourself on. What's that you know? Is that something that's hard? Most definitely. You'll see. Man, Coach Day is a great coach from my first time coming in. I was in a transfer portal just the way when we sat down and how he explained how things are, how you're stating what this culture means to not only him, but to everyone else here. How I can contribute and help the team just every way he broke the game down for me. It was super important and just getting to meet him for the first time. I got to see what type of man he was and it meant a lot to me. Yeah, most definitely.

3:09:33I feel like when you look at the run-in backs in NFL today, like Safequan, Derek Murray, those guys producing at such a great high level definitely helps the run-in backs like me and other guys in his class for sure. Yes, right. I'm not just meeting my teammates, I'm just talking about having these jokes around, how it's been in life, that's pretty easy to say. Yeah, most definitely. Just getting to see Coach Kelly again, seeing that smile on his face. Whether or not he's seen him last time, but it was a great environment. Had a great time seeing him again and talking with the other guys as well. No. Yeah, it was great, man. Not having a lot of time to prepare because we just played so soon, but just taking advantage of those days that I have and making the most out of them and doing what I'm best at, so just taking advantage of that. You want to know if you're going to have a test in here or something,

3:10:35or something like that, or something like that? I just felt, you know, the training that I had and the people I trained with, they prepared me the best, so why not? How do you want to explain how you play out? Well, is there not an engineering to come out? Yeah, so coming off that loss towards the end of the season and just a mentality that we had as a team, and that stretch that we had to go on and just really, man, just locking in with ton of vision, going on a long stretch, trying to win all those games. So I think that just helped me as far as, you know, going on in my future and how I approach things for sure. I think just how close we are, close knit, and how we protect each other, have each other's back, and hold each other accountable. I think that's what was the difference maker in the SHRC. No, I'll say just approaching every game of the same manner, same way going about meetings, doing all the different small things, communicating with the old line, making sure I'm on the right page with everybody,

3:11:36so just approaching it the same way, and came out with the win. What's the difference between the three and the Josh and the two? Nothing really, man. I think at the end of the day football is football, so, you know, learning some NFL terminology, but at the same time, it's just still football. We're doing the only way to work out, potentially based on this year. We're going to try it. We're ready for that, a longer season. That's something I already did. So coming into college, my freshman sophomore year, main guy, 1500 yards, back to back season, 1000 yards, so that wouldn't be an issue for me. Oh, yeah, so I'm a bigger guy with side speed, vision, eliciveness, and power. Get run between the tackles, also outside, and just have natural great hands. So I think I haven't seen, you know, any running back in today's NFL that can do what I do at my size, and especially, you know, that's what I bring with my skills to the game.

3:12:37I have some form of today coming up, yes. I'm going to coach Lockwood on the same period. What's the message of my advice to get the best in the world? Really just a relationship that we have. Coach Lockwood's a guy that I didn't just meet overnight. He recruited me as well, for the state since I've great. And just to have that continuous relationship with him, it meant a lot to me. He taught me a lot with the one year I had it with him at Ohio State. Just how to, you know, be accountable and just continue to motivate others around me and continue to be positive. So he taught me and trail a lot in that room. And I think it spread across the whole room with the way I led and just the leadership roll I had. Coach Lockwood, what are your expectations for James? Man, I think James is just such a great player. And not only him, but the other guys in the room as well. Those guys were all produced. They learned a lot from me and Trace, so I don't have any worries. Cool. All right. Cool. Thank you guys.

3:13:40Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Jordan Hancock and stuff. So it makes sense why he to come in. And then I mean, you see what coach G are doing. Like, why not? Why wouldn't you want to come be a part of BIA? I think that with the way that you feel coming here, that's great. That's great. Look at the safety. But also allow the defense to take a different game of the sun. And we're hearing from some of you look at, like, your oxygen and the back of the game, you look at that whole defense and find it. And you look at number six now playing off the closer to the line of scrimmage. How do you think it changes the whole game of how you play BIA? Yeah. I mean, I think sun is a spectacular athlete. I mean, sun has the ability to play safety, to play linebacking, and probably come off the airs. Like, sun can probably play every position on the field. I think having him closer to the line, being in a make plays, it gives us more opportunity to change the defense and do different things in the defense that maybe we weren't able to do last year.

3:14:43So I think wherever sun is going to play, he's going to be successful. So I'm just, I'm excited to play with him. Going great. I mean, coach G was here when I, when I, my junior year in me and him, I mean, we geled together a lot. And I think he's a great coach, ridiculously smart, and brings a lot of energy every day. And I love being close to him before, and I can't wait for him to be back here and have a year, another year with him. I mean, like I said, it should be the best defense in the country. It shouldn't, should be no, no other goals. Yeah, I think, I love how coach G is getting more hands on, getting more involved in everybody. I mean, I think coach days, the best head coach in the country. So for him to be in there on our special teams, we're pushing everyone to be better, holding the older guys accountable, making the older guys hold the young guys accountable. I think it's just going to make us a better all-around team.

3:15:48Oh, man, Jaylin is a, he, a dude that goes 100% every play. And as a young guy, that's the first step of, for greatness, just going as hard as you can every play. And man, I think Jaylin could be really special. Yeah, that's why I got to say. Yeah, I think, like I said earlier, I'm not going to sit here and lie and say when it first happened, I wasn't crushed. I think I was really destroyed. But I think just knowing that God has a plan for me and I'm facing this adversity for a reason, and I'm going to come out stronger, smarter, and a better player. So I can't wait for what he has in store for me this year.

3:16:51Yeah, just knowing, I mean, knowing how much, like, it's funny when I talked about it before, like being a dude from Arizona, I didn't know too much about how I stayed before I got here. So just being here for the years I've been here, man, I grew to love it. I grew to really love my brothers, love Ohio State, and to be, not be able to play in that game, and I was crushed. And it was hard for me to watch, to be the ones who are hard for me to just sit there and not be with my brothers and be a part of that. I mean, I just, I had that much more fuel in the fight this year to go in there and to achieve our goal of beating Team Onor, winning the Big Ten, and winning the national championship. So that's why we came back. It's easy. All of us could have went to the NFL and achieved our dreams, but when we didn't achieve our goals here and didn't finish our legacy here, the way we wanted to made the decision to come back that much easier. When did you get over the last question? What time frame was that? Probably towards the end of the winner. I started feeling a little more like myself again, so just keep stacking those days and keep building that momentum to feel even better than I felt last year.

3:17:58You may have been asked for a walk up here, but what does Caleb bring to that secondary now? You and him back there together, what does that feel like? Oh, yes. It's super exciting. Like I'm saying, he's a real student of the game. Me and him being in the film room all day, I'm getting on the field competing in the way, I'm on the field. He's a great competitor. And just having someone like Caleb to push you every day to get better and to hold you accountable, man, is super exciting. And I can't wait to see how me and Caleb play, how all the safety's played. Jaha, looking great. Jellima claim, Bonzoo, all those dudes looking great, man, and just having BIA back, I'm excited. What are the quick, is you looking at this defense from your fans? All the pieces there, I'm saying, does it feel like this could be a special year to everything hosting together? I feel like the last three years it could have been a special year. But obviously, if you look on paper at the best defense in the country, it's all in us to put it all together.

3:18:58It's easy to say you had the destiny from this net, but at the end of the day, you still got to go on the field, shout out to Hummert up and show it every week. Jason, thank you for your best. Tari, we got you, buddy. Thank you, thank you. You just covered it for all this, or did you have it in there that was good? I think, yeah, it's definitely surprising. I remember when he came here as a recruit, and he was on his official, and he really liked it. I know he's really coached with Jordan Hancock and stuff, so it makes sense why he'd come in. You see what coach G are doing, why wouldn't you want to come be a part of BIA? I think that with the way that you feel coming here, that's great for the safety. The defense has been taking different games in the sun, and we're hearing from some of you looking at the lights. You're in the back of the defense, and you look at that whole defense and finally, can you look at number six now playing off the closer to the line? Is there much, how do you think it changes the whole room of how you play D? I think sun is a spectacular athlete. Sunni has the ability to play safety, to play linebacking, and probably come off the aides. Sunni could probably play every position on the field.

3:19:59I think having him coached the line and being in the make plays gives us more opportunity to change the defense and do different things in the defense that maybe we weren't able to do last year. I think wherever Sunni is going to play, he's going to be successful, so I'm excited to play with him. Going great, I mean coach G was here when I, when I, my junior year in me and him, we geled together a lot, and I think he's a great coach, ridiculously smart, and brings a lot of energy every day. And I love being coached right before, and I can't wait for him to be back here and have a year, another year with him. I mean, like I said, it should be the best defense in the country. It shouldn't, should be no, no other goals. Did you play a big role in special teams, your time here? It's been like watching it now with Ryan, Day, having a lovely, just a hand in hand for the game. Yeah, I think I love how coached aides get more hands-on, get more involved in everybody. I mean, I think coached aides, the best head coach in the country.

3:21:00So for him to be in there on our special teams, you're going to be pushing everyone to be better, holding the older guys accountable, making the older guys hold the young guys accountable. I think it's just going to make us a better all-around team. Oh, man, Jaylen is a, he, a dude that goes 100% every play. And as a young guy, that's the first step of, for greatness, just going as hard as you can every play. And, man, I think Jaylen could be really special. Yeah, that's why I got to say. What was it like in the Wendell team, you feel like every time you've got on that other hand towards something, you can throw on another curveball. How did you handle this one, compared to the other team? Yeah, I think, like I said earlier, I'm not going to sit here and lie and say when it first happened, I wasn't crushed. I think I was really destroyed. But, I think just knowing that God has a plan for me and I'm facing this adversity for a reason, and I'm going to come out stronger, smarter, and a better player. So, I can't wait for what he has in store for me this year. What did you find yourself doing watching? I don't know, you had a decision, you had a call from a try. I'm not worried about God, this is what I was talking about.

3:22:06You wanted a part of the team, you're around here. I have that head of interest, right? So, I'm just going to be frustrating for you to watch this time, considering how close you guys were. Some of the plays that went the other way, I think, now. Yeah, just knowing, I mean, knowing how much, like, it's funny, I talked about it before, like, being a dude from Arizona, I didn't know too much about how I stayed before I got here. So, just being here for the years, I being here, man, I grew to love it. I grew to really love my brothers, love Ohio State, and to not be able to play in that game, I was crushed. And it was hard for me to watch, to sit there and not be with my brothers and be a part of that. But, I mean, I just, I had that much more feel in the fight this year, to go in there and to achieve our goal of beating Team Onor, winning the Big Ten, and winning the national championship. So, that's why we came back, it's easy, all of us could have went to the NFL and achieved our dreams. But, when we didn't achieve our goals here and didn't finish our legacy here, the way we wanted to made the decision to come back that much easier. When did you get over the last question on the vaccine? You know, the kiddie back feeling, the time frame is that.

3:23:11Probably towards the end of the winner, I started feeling a little more like myself again, so just keep stacking those days and keep building that momentum to feel even better than I felt last year. I've been asked for a walk up here, but what does Caleb bring to that secondary now, and you and him back here together, what does that feel like? Oh, yes, it's super exciting. I mean, like I'm saying, he's a really student of the game, me and him being in the film room all day, I'm getting on the field competing in the way, I'm on the field, he's a great competitor. And just having someone like Caleb to push you every day to get better and the whole day accountable man is super exciting. And I can't wait to see how me and Caleb play, how all the safety's played, Jahaig looking great, Jellima claim, Bonzou, all those dudes looking great man and just having BIA back, I'm excited. One of the quick, as you look at this defense from your bench, all the pieces there, I feel like this could be a special year to everything hosting together.

3:24:12Yeah, I mean, I feel like the last three years it could have been a special year, but I mean, yeah, obviously if you look on paper at the defense, we have the best defense in the country, so it just takes, it's on us to put it all together. It's easy to say you had this thing from just that, but at the end of the day, you still got to go on the field, sharp it, hum it up and show it every week. Thank you, Nathan, thank you very much. Ty, we got you, buddy. Thank you, thank you. The buck guy, if you'll walk on her, five star, whatever she'd help us when you know. We can bury the defense, not here yet. Yeah. You still work with him for a while, how does that kind of work right now? Yeah, we can. I mean, with Max and Toe, it's Face Times and it's encouraging him to get here and watch practice so that when they get here right after graduation, we can hit the ground running. But yeah, it's much prep work as we can do on the front end with, you know, setting them tips you eat and that's what a thing. We're technology nowadays, I mean, COVID, we had to do it, so yeah, we can get to work right now. Two more questions, folks, with the special teams question, the collaboration that you guys have, it's three people in one room. Like, how does that work semantically where you guys are all putting your heads together to get one idea?

3:25:12Just how does that play out in the room together? Yeah, I mean, luckily, I mean, it's Coach Hart and I, I mean, that guy, we worked, we're seeing each other every day for the last eight years and luckily, I worked for years with him. So that's so organic, Hart and I just kind of bounce each other, thoughts off each other, we can read each other's minds by now. I think that's how close we are. So this really organic in there and then Coach Keys does a great job of kind of setting the direction, giving us some expertise and we just kind of have a flow off each other. Okay. I've been seeing the guys react to that, so you're coaching, that's much of a team's. Yeah, I think they like it because the accountability, again, if my tight ends aren't on point return to kicker during their not playing tight end, and they know that. So I think across the board, it gives us a platform to coach other positions. In a time when the print transport is so big, and the guy like G probably could have left multiple times if he wanted to, what does that do for the room? To have a guy who's the leader, have just so step-ass and like, I want to stay here, I want to stay here and make an impact, just to go through the room. Yeah, I think it speaks volumes that you hit the nail on the head, not just for G, but for the brotherhood.

3:26:12I know it sounds cliche and people read it on Twitter and kind of roll the rise of brotherhood. Why did they think the entire defense came back for the brotherhood? We got two goals here, we haven't done them since she's been here. He hasn't hit his two goals, so he stayed for the brotherhood. So I think it speaks volumes for G as a leader in the room, but also, you look around a roster, how many guys could have either left for other opportunities in the portal or in the NFL? So I think it speaks volumes to the brotherhood. Is it different at tight end with the transfer portal maybe because for some positions it's such a development position at tight end where you have to develop run blocking? And you have to learn the passing game. Is it different trying to keep kids around maybe in the portal or at a tight end? Yeah, maybe it is, and I haven't really thought about that because it's still so new. I think you've got to be so honest in recruiting. If you think I'm going to walk into a living room and say, come be my starting tight end, I think you're crazy. You're crazy. Now, come prepared and get to work before you get here. And I'm going to give you the opportunity to, again, to question earlier, I don't care if he's a senior or a true freshman. If you could play, you could play, period. I can't wait. Give me a true freshman, you could play tight end.

3:27:15It's still high of a state. You're going to block Jack and JT, and then your dog tired next play, you're getting covered by Downs and Lathen and all those guys. Are you kidding me? Is this NFL? No, it's still high of a state. Right? So yeah, I think it's a little bit different, but you've got to be honest on the front end. Can you thank you very much? Thanks, guys. Thanks, coach. Thanks a lot. That's what we really count. That's what I really feel like. I really feel like I'm going to be a different team. I hope to be different. I hope he's a bearded, spring practice, and maybe call practice last year. It's not even quite finished here, but I love to have the players that like to support my bodies, transform, boss up. I, you know, the game was slowed down. I mean, where are you going to be going to be going to be your own temperature? I'm going to be like, I'm going to be a game more truthful. I was just in high school, last year, going in the fall game. So I just do it. But now I'm learning the game and I know the sound that I got to do. And I'm just doing my job. That's what coach Johnson was really being on. What did you take out of last season? You mentioned coming straight out of high school.

3:28:18Don't play a ton. How much did you take away? What kind of things did you learn from freshness? I'll say it was tough, you know, but I'm running from guys like Mike Hall. Time helmets and time league. These guys are pro at guys. So I'm just trying to get, I'm going to ask many questions I have for them. And I'm really just getting better just everyday. Full bag. I like it. I'm just going to be a good player. I just wanted to do my job. I'm a team player. So whenever I got to be from my team, I'm going to be. You've got to be for a great final day. Last couple days. You've been having some big people. Have you been having patients? Obviously, I'm just trying to be a good player. I'm just surprised. I'm looking to help. I just feel like a great player.

3:29:20No, this is not surprising to me. I've been putting in the work. Couldn't work my whole life. But I feel like coach makes. This all season, it's really big for me. I like being on it. You see the results. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. You think there's another one you're going to learn to do. Right? I want to say a motor, baby. But I'm here for a reason. A guy I got me here for a reason. So whatever happens, you know, it happens. I love to hear. I just know that's be great. That's a lot of times like the player of the year. It doesn't get that often. You can do it either way. I imagine it. It's a chip on the shoulder. But it's a motor, it's a good better here. I'm sure people here are playing football.

3:30:21Really, yeah, I got a big chip on my shoulder. I'll take no days for granted. I know. I'm just going to be able to play every play like your last play. So that's how I do it. I'm just going to motivate it. Some big season coming up 17 games. Somebody got to step up and they leading on the young guys. Like me and Jason, he rode to Taiwan to step up. Can we see a full back of a spring game? Can we get a touchdown in the spring game? I don't know. We ain't really meant to talk about it. But I think during the season, we're going to save it. I can't wait to see it. I want you to saw this guy. I like the opposing teams know when we got the print. How did you think that went, sir? In the combo? Yeah, I'm looking for a full back. It was awesome. I just felt like high school days, you know. I'm excited. I'm blocking for guys like Kushan, Train, Darling. I mean, it's going to open it up. Do you have to fight with Kaden for that role? Yeah. Because he was just talking about it too. So clearly, is it worth it?

3:31:21I think we share a couple of plays. Whatever it is for my team, what am I doing? Is it Kaden doing it or I doing it? I think it's going to be a good thing for us. The offensive lineman, when you're going to the DLL, that gives you the best food you had for the best matchup. I like going against Donnie and Fryer. I feel like those are pro guys. So I'm going to get the best. You're at the Ohio State. Every day you're going to compete with the best. So you got to bring it. You mentioned about 17 games when that's just, there's got to be more depth inside. That competition likes when you talk about heroes. What's that competition like? I was really competitive. I'm trying to be them to the ball. I feel like all of us, we just work in getting better. You know what's upstate this year? We're trying to be the type of North for the last one of the champions. That's the only thing you have in mind. But we just hope that the spring will be between us. Of course, to get ready for the season. How have Thailand and the set of standards?

3:32:22Those are events. I'm glad they came back. They showed me things, you know, little things. Like little things I'm working on. Like, technique lines. And things like that. So it's not really good for them to come back. I'm just doing a good thing for you. You guys are playing well. The number of people you have in the LSAT is necessarily a bit weird. But you kind of had all that. What's the hardest thing you feel when you're in a group like that? When you get back to the field, you're not going to get in the office. Yeah, I think I felt like I was in a group probably the whole second half of the season. I felt like myself again. And I was just out there playing and having fun with my teammates. And you know, I think that, you know, when you come here and you expect to get to feel it in a certain way, you know, it's hard to get over that for a little bit. And I think you can look at kind of all of us on the D line as a front. We all kind of had our own journey into how we're playing right now. It's all about building, not looking back and playing how we know how to play and being confident out there and using our abilities that God's gave us. So I think that this whole next year, you know,

3:33:22we're just going to see a whole different level of play from all of us. I know you're trying to meet with my brother. Yeah. And that'd be kind of a launch. You know, what there may be capable of. You're doing a good job. You're just going to be able to do what you're doing. You're just going to be able to do what you're doing. You're going to be able to see this. Yeah, you know, I've knew all along what I was capable of. And I know it's frustrating for us two years, you know, not being able to, you know, not playing for whatever reason on the field to what I was capable of. But, you know, once you just put that stuff to the side, just got there and play ball. Like, you know, how it's just going to take care of itself. Yeah. You know, you're good. Did you play, you used the term, don't you know, like issues? I don't know what it does. Is it not like an emphasis of not focusing on the little things kind of owning it on that stuff? And you guys know you're on the talent. And what is it for you this year? Yeah, you know, I think you said it, you know, with, there's no talent issues here on this team. You know, I think if you look at our team across the board, probably one of the most talented teams in the country. If not the most talented team in the country. And so, you know, that's God given though.

3:34:22And what we can work on is our discipline, our skill, our technique. I think if we become the most, you know, disciplined and sound team technique wise, there's not going to be a team in the country that's stopping us. But it's, you know, it's a long process to get to that point and to get to that season. So, I just think that when Coach Day talks about that, you know, it's true. We've got the talent. Just got to go out there and work every day on the little things. What are you specifically working on this spring? You know, I'm working on a flexibility, you know, I'm working on bending the corner a little bit in hands. You know, at D line, you can kind of improve on everything. And so, Coach Johnson's, our emphasis is just, you know, just taking care of the little things, hands, hips, foot placement. So, it's kind of a little bit of everything in the spring. There's a lot to be excited for, especially with all the guys coming back on defense. But how excited are you to play again with JT? I'm really excited about that. You know, it was cool, really cool. I mean, him going back and forth the whole time to side. And we're going to come back or not. And, you know, when we, you know, I kind of knew before you guys knew when he was coming back. So, you know, I was excited.

3:35:22He's a, you know, a hell of a player and, you know, a really good friend of mine. So, just having another year with him and, you know, if I'm going to enjoy it and, you know, hopefully have some fun. You know, we can have a comfortable match next fall. Even going back to your recruitment, you know, first guy to commit in this group. You high guys over for barbecues in your house. What was it like, I guess, to see a kind of comfortable circle in a way that you could kind of almost leverage that relationship. And then you could recruit guys to come back into the pool and run back on the right. Yeah, you know, it's unique. You know, I think it's a really unique position. I've got great group of guys coming back, man. I mean, you know, it's just so exciting. And I just wanted to, you know, for me, you know, and at the same thing, same thing for those guys. How much they care about this program and care about the team and coach day and, and guys you want to do it for in the city and, you know, the chance. We all knew that, you know, we had great opportunities going in the field. And we also have a great opportunity to put another one of those banners up here.

3:36:22So, and, you know, get some revenge on, you know, the guys up north, all that stuff. So, you know, when you put in a nutshell, you know, it was a really simple decision for a lot of us. And, you know, we thank God for being in this position and coming back. You know, I don't think anyone's regretted it. And we're just really excited to, you know, get back on the chase and, and, you know, not miss a day. Jack, you take a wide view of the defense with the additions made. But Caleb coming in and now you see sunny, blue, pulsaroline, and scrimmage. But you just, when you have an opportunity, like, looking at what's out there, how does it change the capability with your defense? Last time, how can it change the way maybe you deploy that you couldn't do a year ago? Yeah, I mean, you look at our, you look at the defense one of the very, like, damn, we're big. You know, corner, we're big, lineback, we're big, D line, we're big, safety, we're big, fast. You know, we're just, it's, you know, we're just, we've got a lot of, a lot of weapons to say the least. And so, you know, when you got, when you know you got those guys behind you, you know, you just make you play a place,

3:37:24I'm much more free up front. And, you know, you, you're dependent, you can rely on those guys behind you. And I think that, you know, if we take that approach and, and everywhere on the field, offense too, that, you know, we're never really fun here. But in actuality, I'm not, because it takes great strength to make a decision and leave a place. No, a weak minded person wouldn't be able to make the decision that I made. So it took great strength to do that. So I'm telling you about let your, my deans, it's some, it's some great comedians out here that have been sending me like tons of cookies and I like it. It's funny. Right behind them. Tony Gervin, Bucket Huddler. How have you gone about the assessment of the talent in the room over the past week or two? How much is that unfilled off-field? Like, what's the process of getting to know who you have as players? Well, I broke down, well, me being a guy that loves to run the back position. I already broke those kids down because I recruited him out of high school. No, Q is from where I'm from in Montgomery. I was one of the first guys to offer him.

3:38:24Just watching him, great contact ballers, creative runner, great hands, and trade. I recruited him out of Virginia. Exceptional short area of birching, quickness and things. I'm gonna help him get better on. And then I recruited James Peoples out of San Antonio, Texas. I knew what he was gonna, what he was gonna be. Now, TC and Sam, those two kids I'm getting to know, and I'm gonna help them improve their game. But, no, we got different runners in there. I like to call myself, I'm in love with this position. So I get to break down runners and help their game. So, talent, talent, everyone, very talented. Far back, Jeremy Birmingham podcast. How much square effect did soft best? Cookies are actually the best cookies that the Wilbur and Mays won. Those are way better than crunchy chips and white things, those are terrible. Do you have to find a balance there? Well, for me, I'm actually not eating the cookies. I'm not eating the cookies this year. I gave it up for a fast.

3:39:27No sweets for me for the whole year. That's something I gave up. So, the term, the soft best cookie term, look, guys, I actually took that from my, I represent the high school coaches of Memphis Tennessee. I actually took that from my guy and then coach Slocum. He's always said that soft best cookie. I actually stole that from him. I give him credit for it. And I tell them all the time, he said, I should have branded it because you don't took it and ran away with it. But, that's just where that come from. That, that's what I was saying. As you get to Ohio State and you start to look around the country, or against a big place, that's a nature job. How do you think that wearing the Ohio State logo on your chest, wearing a locker when you get out of the community trail? How does that change the way that you feel you're either received or, or does it add a different level to it? To just feeling like I can go anywhere and get anybody in the country. It doesn't change the name for me. This is a great place. Oregon is a great place too.

3:40:27But, guess what? Whatever I put on, I know what I'm going to represent. For me. I know who put me here. I know I represent something higher. No, like I told you. I know my purpose is. My purpose is supporting the people. So wherever logo I have on, I'm still going to be doing the same thing. So, this is a great logo. Great logo. By where I know the logo every day. It's across the Sierra Manique. I know what I represent. So that's the greatest logo I could ever wear. So it doesn't matter what other logo I have on. I got that one on. I'm going to any house and be able to recruit. Deep right. Cameratee Robinson, the athletic coach. You mentioned a time of Memphis and then the score. And if you remember, you mentioned there. You learned that time. And then you take over to managing the world. What did I learn from them? I'm just building them. Teaching the kids. We live in such a selfish world. And I can tell kids all the time.

3:41:29It's got to be much more than football. The ball going to go flat one day as I always say. Being in that room there at Memphis is it went for five. Teaching them how to be about being one. I tell them in all time it doesn't cause you anything to celebrate another man's success. So teaching them how to be one. And once they learn to be one, they function and they feed off one another. So that's what I learned from being there at Memphis. Right in front of Andy Baxter, Letterman Rowe. You said you were career and law enforcement kind of influence you as a coach and kind of should be rewarding. Well, I just got through talking to somebody about that today. When I first got into this profession, I got my own room. I was an ex. No, how was I going to be in the handle? My room. I said, man, I had a power with 51 inmates. You tell me, me having got six or seven guys, like you kidding me? I'll tell my, me having to do traffic stops or going on domestic. No violence calls.

3:42:31It's simple, easy. No, people on those you care. Also, no, you got to have a certain demeanor about yourself. So when I walk into a room, it's the reason why I go train every morning. It's the same thing when I was a police officer. You look a certain way, kind of deter people from doing certain things. So it's just why I go train every morning. I'm going to look just as good as my boys look. So it helped out a lot in other words. Front row right, Austin Moore, the podcast. Carl, welcome to Columbus. What would it mean to revolutionize the way running backs or coach? What does that take? I'm not going to say revolutionized. It's some good running back coaches out here. Everybody's different. It's from great coaches out here. I just want the hit guys who sit on these jobs. The not just higher guys, you know, all coaches on your staff should be great recruiters. Not just the running back coach. We coached the position. We developed players as well.

3:43:31I just want the coaches to realize, you know what? Let me look and be thorough about this guy that I'm hiring for this job. Is he teaching the position? Is he development the position? Because you're not going to hire anybody just coach quarterbacks already. It shouldn't be like that for the running back position either. And I'm only passionate about it because I played it. I love it. So it's on the position I want to coach. Could I coach the other positions? Yeah. I played DBN college too. But I love the running back position. So I just want to see it coach well. Tim May podcast. Yeah. A million questions. All that's a couple. Number one, when you're wife, whatever, you got the message stuff. Are we moving again? What was what was her reaction? No, she just knew God gave us a new assignment. It was never like we're moving again. Let me tell you guys something. My mom was in the military. So I lived everywhere. I lived in Panama, South America. I'm used to picking up and moving. I lived in Fort Riley, Kansas. My garbage home, Memphis, my second home. So I'm used to moving. Now my wife was different for her. But she just knew God gave us a new assignment. So it's time to go.

3:44:34What did Coach Day tell you when he heard you that he wants out of you that maybe different. It's not slamming somebody else. But what did he say he wanted you to bring to the running back room? I think he did his research on me. He said he wanted the guy to develop the position. And that's not taking a shot at the coach that was here. Who I'm friends with. And he said they didn't want somebody to really get the guys going. I can only be me. And I told him that coach I'm going to be me every day now. Because see my mind said this when I step in this building. I got one mindset. That's to do my job so well that the living dead I'm born can do anything better. So when I leave it that's where my mindset is. Hopefully I'm here for a long time. But on the guy knows that. So but that's my mindset. Every that's the image of wisdom, he's saying that's my mindset. I'm going to do my job so well that living dead I'm born can do anything better. So that's what my mind said is.

3:45:34I'm going to have time for one last question. Bill Rebenoets Columbus dispatch. Carlos first of all is a true that nobody calls you. Carlos never calls you lock the true. Yeah. I prefer to be called lock. I know Coach Landon would call me. I thought maybe trying to take side of me every nine days that day. It's Oregon called me Carlos. But I prefer to be called coach lock. So that's fine. You were in law enforcement. You had played football. What made you decide to leave law enforcement to get back to the coaching and starting at the very bottom and doing it when you had an established career? I'm going to say this with you all because I know a lot of people may not may not notice. When I first got to Memphis, that's not the first school I went to try to work at. I actually went to a small liberal arts school there in Memphis called Role College. They try to get on this there. I was told I have enough experience. I need to go back in Coach High School. I think at that time God was telling me I was thinking too small.

3:46:35The decision for me to get into coaching football. That was God's decision. Because this is the extension of my ministry to poor and the people. So me getting out of law enforcement. I enjoy my life in law enforcement. But I knew I could reach more people by me being able to coach ball. I want to be a bridge builder. I want to help out young men. Not just young men but the coaches that I work with help them achieve their dreams and goals. So that was part of it. Coach thank you very much. Thank you. And he believes in himself. And that's part of the just trying to understand what's my path. But yeah it's been great. Stuff's been made. He's growing. But he's nowhere near where he knows he's capable of being. I love the way he lives. I love the way he approaches things. I love the way the questions he asks. I love the way he makes mistakes and then corrects mistakes.

3:47:38It's very veteran like. I mean there's so much ball he has to learn. Like he literally does things that are good. I'm like do you know what that word to go coach? I have no freaking idea. So like I'm trying to teach him all of that. Why it worked. I'm trying to get the consistency at which it works. Just go through the roof. But I'm very you know excited and proud of the conversations we're currently having. And I'm excited for them to keep going. I love working with Chip. Chip is. I love talking ball. I love the viewpoints. I love. I love the veteran that he has. You know. And I love. I love all of it. I think that early on the biggest impact. You know just feeling perspective. I think the run game has been awesome. And then off of the run game.

3:48:38Some of the actions or relief throws or all that. I love where it's at. I love working with them. I love who it is. And. I love who it is. I love who it is. I love who it is. I love who it is. I love who it is. I love how great person it is. I would say that. I sleep a little better. No, it's really a great combo. Because like. We're obviously we're doing a lot as a group. It's not just Chip and I. So. But you know obviously Chip has an image and a view on things that. So to have that experience and to have that viewpoint, I'm just trying to absorb as much as I can But then also highlight some things that we've really done a good job of and make sure those you know, nothing's really changing We're just trying to enhance. We're not changing. We're enhancing so where the things fit is perfect You know, I think you know the rest of the dynamics of search chip can talk about but it's been it's been awesome

3:49:38So I'm excited about it Yep We talked to a mechanic just like moving from slot to outside You know how good he's been in the slot? Is that a difficult move for you guys to just know how good a guy is at one spot? But know that maybe for his long term future and the No, I wouldn't say it's anything on his future because he's capable of doing whatever you want to get done But I'd say that it says more about the room. I think it's it's the growth of you know Brandon, the growth of Bryson that's really you know allowing my mind to say hey, Mac be prepared you're going to move around a lot You're going to come out of that slot. You're going to be outside where I create mismatches out there I mean his ability to move around is critical but I would say between Mac and between car and L. T. S ability to move around a lot It's going to provide a lot of flexibility for our room and in those top you know six seven guys that are really doing a good job right now I'm just looking at this spring for Mac because you know There's no time for one of those things I'm sure when you guys balance how much does it work this need versus

3:50:41How much does he actually do? Yeah heavy heavy emphasis on what work he needs you know versus anything else I rely on him we have great dialogue back and forth it's a two way to it's a two way conversation And frankly there's gonna be times where like hey Mac what do you want to do today? You want to go outside you want to go inside and I don't care so we're not there yet We will be there but it's just more about you know when the room is ready to start mixing things up I would say there's got I mean I make sure I bring in guys that are able to do all But I have not asked them to yet so the only guys that in our room currently I've asked to do that has been Mecca and Carnell and those are probably the two guys that I would you know think heavily on doing moving around a lot I'm not putting that on anybody else right now not saying they can't but at this point having two guys be able to swing

3:51:44You probably don't need much more than that I need guys being experts at what they're good at so it helps the offense I'll be great and everything and be an expert at something and we can use that to our advantage Do you think you're doing this here is different to the pet like maybe you guys who are more situational about it? The room is always different frankly I mean from 2018 and then 19 to COVID and those guys and then the depth of those guys And then where Mecca and Marvin and those guys were as freshmen compared you know it's just it's always different I expect this one to be different again not sure at what level yet Last question The TV room

3:52:45He would probably know more for that question than I would but I would say that Yeah, we obviously feel of each other right I mean there really is a team sport and we can't do without them and they can't do without us And we can't do without the quarterback we can't do without the online so the more that can seep into other positions and we work as a team and operate as a team and identify where a team the healthier we are When we are we think that you know already but I would say me and Tim I've really you know met on that talked about it like we talk about technique we talk about recruiting we do all that together And not a crazy level but definitely like you know more than I have in the past so I love working with OG I mean he's awesome he's got a great perspective And we definitely feed off each other in practice and then maybe while building building our rooms we've done the same Brian thank you very much. Cool thanks guys All right folks we have CJ Hicks on the 20s Sure is why. Yeah that was great

3:53:46That's how I used to play in fast on a team It's a feels faster. Yeah Not always fast. Yeah But hit the holes, keep going and you got guys going to hold Yeah I mean everyone's probably good at you stay away You know it's how they created explosive offense and they bring that here and we do it and it has been good It's that broad to this way. How is he? Seth has a very high character I mean he holds himself to the arc standard and his own standard And Seth's been doing really good so far so yeah take a good addition to the real So you took her mentioned his football a huge part and that was pretty evident Have you noticed that it holds that something to come? 100% yeah it's a great point if I say there I mean he's has like two full seasons in that season he's under his belt So he's seen a lot different defensive And he's very smart dude I know he has like two degrees from Bambler or something like that So he's a very smart dude and definitely never be here

3:54:49What does a successful offseason look like for you in the Virginia state? I'll say just improvement I need to improve on I'm just kind of competing and doing everything I can to be one of the five guys I'm just kind of in my self and that spot How do you roll assuming you get through that? How do you then roll that into a fall camp? That's successful It starts to have a great summer It starts to get bigger faster and stronger in the summer And kind of understanding the play with more as I live in the fall camp And just rolling with them and let them into this season You mentioned getting better works because of the things you do that are better ways to go I'll say just my punching mechanics and kind of my run-down technique What do you see in Virginia here and just touch the odds? Can we go to student? What do you notice? Yeah, there's a great chemistry from what I've seen so far I mean I think they're both really good offensive minds and they kind of work off each other So I think they've had really good success so far

3:55:52Chip obviously has experienced run games, stuff like that How much does that affect offensive line play with a coordinator who kind of has a background with the Russian team? I think they've impacted a lot I mean I always want to coach that's underrun the ball I like pass run all the way out We can run the ball and we're doing what we supposed to do at part So having coach Kelly behind us without him saying mentality That's only a good thing for the line There were obviously a big group that came back on the offensive line With that experience, does it feel different than previously just having as much? And I know guys spots are still up for grabs and things like that Does this spring feel different with that much experience? I'll say yeah, I mean my freshman year I remember Paris and the Warn being here and seeing how they operated And started a similar fan with Putes that had a lot of experience in their belt And kind of know what they would expect going into the season and going into the spring ball Who are some defensive linemen that when they line up across from me? Not that you're scared but you're like oh boy

3:56:53I'm about ready to get into it Who are some guys that stand out to you in that regard? I'll say Jack, all of our DMs are really good I'll say I don't want to snub anyone out But I'll say Jack and JT are really good I'll say Kim and Curry, he's one of my roommates And he's gone a lot better He's not really good spring so far I'm just like an offensive lineman living with a defensive lineman Do you guys get into like some competitions? There's arguments over things like on how to do things with a few stows? There's every single argument What kind of like bitter over certain plays and practice? Who won this round? Who won that round? But I've done the day where I was just trying to get each other better and all like brothers for it As far as who cooks the meals in the house though, do you guys get arguments over that? Or who keeps clear room stuff like that? A little bit, yeah, I mean not yet a little pissed Like I said, Jack, JT, Tayden, Priyatta, Mitch, all those the end are super super good The interior needs K-Mac, obviously tightly each They've all been given the online a little bit of problems But yeah, that's been a good competing against them and getting better

3:57:54And what do you think about the game? I think it's a good game I think it's a good game I think it's a good game I think it's a good game I think it's a good game I think it's a good game against them and getting better There you go It's true people, this is for me the first offseason where you kind of pushed yourself A little competition to make a good game You should be with them for it, it's a good game It just seems like you're making a little bit of it Yeah, I'll say, I'll say, yeah, I mean, it's always like last night's the same goal But I'll say, I've physically and mentally yet, mentally and very yet But like I've taken strides during the season right out, well better during the season And practice, now that I get a winter, I'm coming to myself and get Scott to be one of the five I guess in what area mentally or physically? What was the figure? I'll say mentally, just getting more plays on my belt and kind of having the game slow down You know, when you first get here, everything's new, everything's faster

3:58:54But when you start seeing different events, for formations and kind of recognizing different things that are going on Kind of able to play a lot faster And physically, I've gone on a lot of sides in Spain, my lower and upper body So it's helped me and helped people at this level Is it hard to get a competition now that you feel it? You're kind of panicking and you need to go out there and play But it's also because it's too starting to happen as well What's the mindset that you're facing? What does it mean? I mean, I just got to just worry about myself and do everything I can to kind of prove myself and the coach here that I won the fight I can help the team win Thank you, George Especially, you know, being a senior, there's not that many games left, so you're excited for the opportunity You have two games left, how do you play that guy? Man, it's been a long journey It's definitely been emotional when that last game comes, but just focus on this game And yeah, I think I'm just going to enjoy the moment, really live in the moment and enjoy my time Ladies, did you see Jordan Hancock really discerning my falling out there?

3:59:54I would do to describe he's being used in a lot of different ways I would do to describe the latest play He's played great, I mean, he'd go in there, I'm playing different positions Or making a play when he's in there And yeah, I think that it says a lot about him to be able to play different positions It may play as when his number is false, so it's exciting to see And you win? The idea is offensive, kind of, RPO heavy, maybe, let's say What's the key from your spot on the table? The sake of such a team's success, being successful, depending on the game Yeah, I think just reading your keys, I think that's the best way Just reading your keys and not letting RPO slow you down or making play hesitant And then, you know, executing that coach knows a game plan will help us play When you've obviously gotten through a lot of different shows, what is you? What do you maybe say to staff in that album? Yeah, first of all, my obviously thousand prayers out the set Because I know what it's like to be there But yeah, like you said, it's definitely tough since it's been at the end of the year I'm getting injured like that, but I mean, he's been so great Obviously handling so well, because he's already out here, he was out here supporting us at practice

4:00:54And, you know, yeah, I think the biggest thing to tell him is just Everything's going to be alright, like it might seem like the end of the world right now at this moment But you're going to be alright, just continue to obviously be there for the team But I think just lean on God, that's really what I did When I eat these guys, one day I'm going to be something that's really good He's already got no good, but I'm going to help you guys Yeah, it means a lot of sets so much about set, the type of players, the type of leader he is I mean, that's a leader of our team, and you know, when he's going down, he could have just been at home right now And it's ours, but he's out here helping the team out, man, that says a lot about him, and we appreciate him for that What's the key to covering up backshows? It's accessible I feel like that's something for our DB coaches, I'm not even a good way to see her But yeah, that's some of our DB coaches that have been working with us When IGB transferred to your last year, when did you kind of notice he was going to have to bring the confidence and the match to the secondary? Yeah, I mean, immediately, IGB came in as a fierce competitor right off the bat

4:01:57You felt some of my practice from his first practice to now, you still feel him And always talking a lot of tries, always competing at a high level, never giving up So yeah, I think IGB has been a great add to the DB group Thank you very much You're back in the hands, yeah, obviously And I think both teams have proven that, and that's why we're here But they do an outstanding job, you know, and they've got some real veteran leaders, you know, Cross and Kaiser I think have been there, this is your sixth for both those guys Watts and the secondary has been around for a long time, so they've got depth, you know, up front, second level and third level They're really smart, you can watch their communication that goes on during the play And you can see how in tune they are to what the coaching staff is asking to do So that's a huge challenge for us on Monday going up against a really, really well coached defense That has some really, really good players that have played a lot of football You know, I think both teams have guys that have played a lot of football And that experience has shown through the playoffs Ben, you're all right, let it roll

4:02:58When you see Will make new safety made on the first drive, like this I have Trying to get the ball to Jeremiah Is that like an aggressive mistake for Will? And when you're trying to get the ball to Jeremiah and try to involve your best player Like, you're not excusing something like that, is there almost like a okay, like, we're trying to get the ball there and kind of understand why he did what he did Yeah, he just didn't see the linebacker underneath in the coverage He read the top of the coverage really well He didn't see the underneath part of the coverage You know, so we discuss it just like we normally do between each series about what just transpired And then what are we going to do next? You know, the one thing about Will is he owns everything he does Because if you don't own it then you're going to make the same mistake again Because you don't realize how you did it He knew right away he just didn't see the linebacker You know, he felt like the top of the coverage was deep enough And Jeremiah had pushed them off where he could throw that ball into him But he didn't spot the underneath coverage So, you know, it's something he'll learn from And hopefully the one thing I love about Will is usually doesn't make the same mistake twice So, you know, let's hope he has that out of his system Can we take problems? And he has that?

4:03:59Obviously, he's in problem in the West North, but he's not here He's been out a year, but Leonard Moore set the up pretty well I'm going to say that he's certainly curious about the whole secondary goal Yeah, I think the whole secondary, you look at how much man they play And the reason they do it is because they can You know, and no one's really exploited that with him So, I think they all can cover You know, so it's not like, well, just stay away from him and throw against this guy And all of them are really, really skilled And I think how coordinated it is with the whole group, you know, that they all have an understanding of where they're supposed to be when they're supposed to be there And they do a really good job with it So, I know they did lose a corner early in the season, but they've seemed to just continue to roll on defense And the statistics show you that Game full, WSY, actually Chip, all year when you're prepping again, you know there's another game, two seven more games down the road And this is the last one winner of lose I'm curious, does that change anything in preparation, late design, snap distribution?

4:04:59Is there anything different about knowing that you have no games left after this? That's a good question, I don't think we've talked about that one yet But we certainly don't save things going into games saying, hey, this is a really good deal Let's not run it because we want to run a three or four games down the road Because you don't know who you're going to have and what you're going to do You make your decisions based upon the personnel that's available that week And then what's going to help you win that football game? And those are the same decisions that are being made now So, snap count going into a game We don't really talk about that The only time that ever comes up is when you're up And you're starting to think about substitute And so if the score is 42-7 and the third When are we going to get Donnie out? And when are we going to get Seth out? You know, because you hate to lose a guy when the score is 42-7 You know, in a game because we do have multiple games to play after that But that's the only time we've really talked about that The other day that felt very bad after the game Ryan talking about that screen Said it was something that was so far from his mind He's not even sure why you guys even practiced it What went into the decision to dial out of there in that situation?

4:06:01Well, honestly, there was 29 seconds to go in the first half when we run our 25-yard line So, let's see if we can get something here on the first play If we can, then we'll get into two-minute mode But if we can't, then you're probably going to take a knee and go in at halftime So, we thought it was a safe play to run and see if we could pop something And obviously it worked, but it worked because it's a pretty good player So if you can get him into open spaces like we did, he can stick his foot in the ground And get north and south really, really fast You look, Noah Weiss got a lantern How have you seen Jeremiah respond to the game that he had? What do you think that says about just his maturity at his age? Yeah, he's been great. You know, we practiced yesterday And he was flying around excited about the opportunity to go play in a national championship So, he's always a forward-looking guy You know, what's next? What's the next challenge? And what do we get to do? And that's kind of what his mindset has been like And that does speak to his maturity because he's always, what's the next challenge? And I think that's one of the things I love about

4:07:01Over the right, M-M-K-W-B-N-S Kind of two-fold. What was your reaction to Jack's death? He said that down Oh, sorry, we were talking about the reaction to Jack's death down Just excited. I mean, you know, in that situation to be where that drive was You know, it's first and goal from the one You have to back-to-back penalties And then, you know, you're in a one-score game and they're tying it up And we're talking about when we get the ball back, how much time is left on the clock And then what can we do in regulation? And then for that whole series of plays just kind of watching them unfold And what happened. But for Jack and the impact that he has on this program And to see that whole thing kind of just out of a story book happening right in front of you But it was anytime our defense can score a weekend return Punts for touchdowns. Offensive guys get really excited Joey Kaufman, what was this bad? How much, or have you watched last year's gaming in snow today? Were there anything they did in their coverage of Marvin Zillian?

4:08:01It's three catches that would be applicable how they might try to take away Jeremiah I don't, I don't think we looked at it that way but we looked at that game and then we looked at every game they played this year So, you know, they've played man and every game they've played so it's not like they're doing something special and one game over another game So, and they played some good receivers, you know, there's some teams they played that have some really talented receivers And they've done a great job against everybody whether it's Louisville, SC, people that throw the ball all over the place They still have done a great job in coverage and in the numbers we'll tell you that So, we've got to be prepared for all coverages and that's the other thing they do that don't just play one coverage So, you know, they're going to mix it up, they try to keep you up balanced, they try to keep the quarterback guessing They bring different blitzes and attack your pressures in a really good manner I think Al's background is an NFL guy, you know, being with the Lions and being with the Bengals has really shown there's a lot of NFL concept studies running there And their players do a great job of adjusting on the fly too So, because people try to confuse them and line up on different formations and move and things like that And they always seem to sort it out so

4:09:02Dave Vittel 24-7 sports There's like this narrative out there that I've heard from people Well, Ohio State wouldn't be here if they didn't lose to Michigan I'm curious to hear your thoughts on that, that the Michigan game woke you guys up or got you motivated or made you angry Do you agree with that or do you think that's nonsense? I've learned a long time ago as a coach that I'm not in the narrative So, you know, I think we live in a week to week world And that's how we've always approached things And I think our week to week is just it's the beginning of the week and what do we do on a Monday? What's a Monday look like? What's a Tuesday look like? What's a Wednesday look like? How's your preparation, all those other things? And you go play the game and you get about 20 hours to adjust to what happened, whether it was a win or whether it was a loss And then you move on to the next game So, the narrative part of it isn't something I think coaches really talk about that this setup, that setup this That's you guys are the experts at writing narratives. We're just trying to get it first down So, I don't look at that from that perspective so

4:10:03All right, we're going to pause locally and we're going to meld into the world wide web and take a few calls on Zoom Let's open up with Dan Tortora Dan? Coach, the decision to come over to Ohio State just reflecting on that hindsight 2020 and what you can say about this experience and the opportunity that presented itself from Coach Day Yeah, it's been awesome and I think just really you think about as a coach the day to day so your ability to what it's like every day you're in the wooding and to be with this staff and everybody that's in this building And then to be around these players a daily basis is what's made this thing really really special so Excited that we get an opportunity to be together for one more week because this is an extremely close knit group I think the connection from the players to the coaches and players to players coaches to coaches is really kind of special And one of the reasons that we've had the success that we've had so we're going to enjoy these last couple of days here in the wooding And then get on a plane and go to Atlanta and play a game on Monday night

4:11:03We're going to Kirk Bolts Kirk? On the Jeremiah Smith thing I don't know if your game plan called for him to be an all-American decoy or did Texas just do anything special to take him out of your offense? Yeah, Pete and his staff did a really good job on the defensive side of some bracket coverages on Jeremiah and I think will really recognize it That's why Cornell had a bigger game Our tight ends were really involved and Mecca was really involved the running back was involved so You know that's the one thing about here is we have more than one weapon at our skill positions so Quarterbacks got to figure out what they're doing and then take advantage of it And I thought we'll get a really good job with that Lane Higgins from the Wall Street Journal, Lane Hey there coach, one of the things I wanted to know is about Coach Brian Hartline and obviously it's clear that he has been exceedingly good position coach and asset to the offense

4:12:05But one of the things that he has done really well is just develop these guys you know regardless of whether they're coming in as a four or five star recruit He's sort of able to pull more out of them so you know given that you've been around many different types of position coaches in your time What does coach Hartline do that's different or that makes him so good at that specific aspect of the job? Yeah, I think whatever the word is that's better than really really good is what Brian is so he's as good a coach as I've been around in all aspects He can do it all he can recruit he can develop players he can put together a game plan you know his knowledge in the passing game is outstanding And we really lean on him a lot in terms of what we're doing from a past standpoint But his ability to develop players what he demands from them and individual drills how he can explain to our players how you can apply what you're doing And individual drills to the game itself and then watch that manifest itself is really special but I think Ryan is an outstanding football coach and really fortunate they got a chance to work with him this year

4:13:07And our final zoom call question Tony Irving Bucket Huddled Yep with regards to you guys have been planning for 16 or 17 games since even before you arrived when you did arrive how quickly was that made to your attention in terms of like the running game and how do you think Trey and Quinchon have operated in this this split system because they both look as precious they did against Akron Yeah, I mean we talked about it from the beginning what our long term plan was because of how long the season was going to be and really didn't have any evidence at the college level because at the FBS level you never played this many games because it was never a 14 for game playoff for you to get to the championship game So you know we talked about this being a long season and how do we do that that was the reason they went out and recruited cute and he got here before I got here but how do you distribute the carries between those guys and they're eerily close and yardage right now I don't know the exact difference between the two of them but it's pretty close I know it was one yard going into the Texas game so but both those guys are fresh you're going to need all weapons you're going to need all hands on deck we knew this was going to be a battle of attrition these 16 you know playing a 16 game schedule obviously we've lost

4:14:24a few guys in Seth and Jimmy and just like everybody else but the core of our guys are still here and they're going to be fresh when we play on Monday. All right back to Columbus Joe Nugent WCM H. I'm Donnie did not allow any pressures in Texas. How much progress is he made since early November to now that left tackle? That Donnie's done I think really been an unsung hero there in terms of what he's done because switching from guard to tackle is not as easy as I think maybe some people think it is you know it's a totally different game a lot of times you're out there on an island by yourself. You're obviously you're you're also protecting the quarterbacks backside you know because Will is right handed quarterbacks so that left tackle position is critical for us but from where he's he stepped in and what he did he's been outstanding and I think you know he was one of the best. I think you know he was one of our he was the offensive player of the game you know him and trade they shared that award this this past week against Texas so you know in this building we recognize what he's done and how he's continued to develop but I think it speaks to his leadership and and you know his whole mission of why he came back here and how on selfish he is and that permeates through the whole offense of line and throughout the entire offense and I think we all look at Donnie as our leader on that side on this side of the ball.

4:15:41Step on Christy. You're talking about the fourth and two run earlier how big was that play right before we cheetah to gain a couple of yards how much of that is the way you can call that next play. Yeah it it it puts it in a whole different perspective so are you making a are you punting you know if if you're incomplete on that or then if it's fourth and five it's a definitely a different play call than what we had an opportunity to call so when you get into fourth and two you're you know you have the ability to run it or throw it and then you can go back to the first round to potentially pick up the first round so that that was big and I think sometimes you look at games and and look at plays that are you know sometimes they don't they don't they go on notice but his effort because he got hit in the yards he made after contact to put it into fourth and two was was huge but that's that's g and he's done everything since I've been here to just whatever it takes for us to win a game and whatever role you want me to play I'll play it and and again one of those senior leaders that has really stepped up in a critical situation. Bill Landis, Kings of the North.

4:16:42Should last couple of games there's been a little uptake for Quinshine and yards after contact hit a nice block on the ball against Tramion because kind of ping pong off people on this touch on the score. What does his physicality bring to your offense and I guess what's it say about him that he's bringing that mentality even though he's not getting the ball 25 times a game. Yeah and I think he's brought it all year long like that you know you look at the run he had in the martial game you know with the unblocked linebacker you know comes to mind right away and a couple of the other physical runs that you know where he set the tone and I think our players kind of expect that from him whether he's blocking or whether he's carrying the football. But you got to have a physicality you know and you get in to win the whole thing you know you're not going to win it by being a passive group and I think it just sets the tone and shows everybody else that you know what those guys are going to do you know you look at his block on on Tramion. He's run on on that play on Friday night against Texas was reminiscent of the block that tray had for him against Penn State you know I think that it speaks volumes to both those guys that they whether they're blocking whether they're blocking for each other or they're carrying the football in a critical situation that when the red zone you know we can count on their physicality and that they're going to deliver a blow to the defense whether it says a block or as a bulk area.

4:17:56Dan, let me worry ship when you just evaluate what wills done this season as a whole what's impressed you most about what he's done to get you guys to this point. I think his leadership and how he grown into that role organically obviously almost everybody on offense besides Q and him were already here you know and so to come in and just go to work you know and I think the players respected his work ethic and and the time he put in and they watched him grow and develop and in the football party was when they first saw him in the spring to the football player that he is right now you know you can see him growing and leaps and bounds. He's fitting great with all his teammates but they noticed the things behind closed doors how hard he works at the game how much he studies football how he puts ourselves and gives us an opportunity because he handles a lot of checks for us and we do a lot of things at the line of scrimmage because he can have that on his plate and he can handle it and I think his decision making has really allowed us to to do a lot of different things both run in pass wise in games so watching him continue to do it. Watching him continue each week to we can put more in his plate and so we're always not a we're never going to be a play behind because he can put us in the right situation has really been a joy as a coach to watch him do that.

4:19:06Bill Rebinovich Columbus Disbash. When you guys lost Josh and Seth I mean most people probably thought as you're in a lot of trouble what was that a narrative. Very much. Very much. I'm learning. Thank goodness we were just day to day. What did you do and Justin and Ryan and the players do to kind of get it together and not be a liability. It's schematically and mentally whatever about a bit. Yeah I think it's a combination of all of it you know when you now have different players different personnel pieces in there you know what do they do well and how do we. Actually went that and then how do we kind of protect maybe what a weakness is on those guys because you got two different guys in there so you know it wasn't. At the same time with both those guys so there was a transition there for a little bit when you know when Jimmy went down and down he moved out Carson jumped in a guard and and Seth was still there you know really kind of running the show when.

4:20:11I think kind of helped us whether that storm initially and then when we lost Seth up in Carson and you know and then starting to rotate the guards you know it was it was a whole nother thing so you know kind of two separate things but. I think Justin deserves a ton of credit for what he did and how we how we worked with all those guys and I think they got a really good understanding of what we're trying to get accomplished and I think our job is. You know to try to put them in position like plays and then let them go play and I think they've done a really good job with that so. You know that's that speaks to the depth of this team we knew it was going to be tested when you play this many games but the fact that we could whether that. Speaks that really how that whole line in the cohesiveness of the entire group so. And finally Tim May that have been wrote it can I just too fast. Number one following up on that Justin Frito made it one of the things that stood out to him was way will stepped up in a leadership way with the offensive line when Seth went down you were out there on the practice field or wherever it happened and stuff but what did you notice from that dynamic also a quarterback literally.

4:21:19Taking ownership of a situation there and instead of hanging heads on the opposite direction I think it's good point I think one of the things will is is conscious of. You know what's going on is very aware and so not only did we lose a great player in South we lost a great leader in South so. You know there was a little bit of a vacuum from a leadership standpoint and so will did a great job I think between will and Donny you know that those are the two real leaders of those guys up front and bring those other guys along with them so. That that that was evident to us after South went down that you know both will and Donny kind of stepping up and filling that void losing South because that was such a great leader from the group up front. It's a remington award winner. The other thing like Tony Gurderman asked you this while ago but I want to follow up on this aspect of what is it like as a office coordinator be going into the last game of the year and all of your weapons are available to you it appears and your offensive line is founded south over the last four games.

4:22:19What is that feeling like as you sit there in your office and look at your playbook your pad or your computer whatever you have your plays on etc. Do you feel like a whole world is open to you create I mean what is that what is that sense. You do until you turn the tape on and look at their defense and say I don't know if that place going to work in some I don't know if that place going to work against them just because of how good they are defensively not still one thing in our week of preparation and going into it is just how much respect we have for Notre Dame's defense and what they can do and what they've done against everybody they played you know it's it's. You watch those guys play as a fan of football you just kind of admire how how cohesive that entire group is and then how hard that group play so you know credit to to Marcus and Al for what he's got the how those guys got those guys playing right now. So as to Dave jump seems to have had an answer I mean if people do take this away from you got that I mean do you feel like you've got that going into the year stand what I'm saying. I understand exactly where you're saying but I don't know any coach that ever feels like that I don't think there's any coach six days before the national championship that thinks I got this.

4:23:26Yeah you did. Yeah you did. Well the matter of course has a German athlete the Colonel Tate and that make a boot for example. I know and we're really really really happy that we have them but we also have great respect for who we're going against and it's going to be a battle you know and I think that's the great part of it you know you have this. You have the two best teams in football played against each other you know and and it wasn't voted on that these two teams play it was earned by both by both teams so you know it's the opportunity to go against Marcus and Al and what they're going to put out there defensively and then those players you watch you watch cross some Kaiser and Watson the rest of that group play it's. As a fan I admire how hard that group plays on defense so and if you're a competitor that's what you want to play against you know you really want to do you get an opportunity play against best so we played. Two SEC teams and an opportunity to beat them you know we we played the number one team in the country and we beat them so now this is the next challenge and and the next challenges is an outstanding Notre Dame team and we're excited about the opportunity go play it.

4:24:26Through what hands were technique that you see you know both both Chip Kelly and Ryan Davis talked a lot about communication getting better from big to how did you see that manifest on the field like communication about the world last week compared to. We put a lot of older guys like Seth and fire you know stepping up and communicating and you know leading this offensive line Seth fire and now Donovan you know so yeah we allow the only guys to lead and we follow. There's nothing you can actually smell big ones you guys are turning out. The same closer to that. Did it beat off each other? Absolutely I mean when you see defensive and you see defensive start arguing with each other and things like that I mean that makes it a lot easier you know have those 10-11 plays around something. What was that like? It's a nice position being to start feeling like you guys were feeling like that. I mean it feels good a good off these runs because I mean we put on so much work and practice and you know seeing a product.

4:25:35You know that hard work. So you know that's a nice question. Tech reserve sense that this offensive line wise is you'll prepare this week with Donovan back in there. They don't hold for some time really this season. You know it's not particularly Austin it's just more of Donovan Jackson preseason all-married and etc. I mean enjoying the group you know. Donovan Jackson is a very good football player. When he's on the field he makes his presence up. We've all been training on my whole point. There's no margin. Just go through when you know. It's him we know it can be. Yeah there's a seat to be. There was a sense watching you guys last week. No or even more of a force. It felt like watching the guys. Maybe even if you feel like that. Yeah I mean we put in the work during practice we practice really hard coach day really challenges. Practice hard positions coaches really challenges. Practice hard. So that was just a result of it. When it's rolling like that what does it feel like being in the midst of that being. It's us it's.

4:26:37When you work hard for something and you're able to see like what comes out of it like that's. There's no better feeling. No I mean I was really funny to see. Tiger what what has Seth been off from. Brought to you guys for the first two games. What's it been like playing XN for the last two? You know he's really calm and stormy. You never see real panic and having a guy like that. Met you and you know you're having really played as many meetings for snaps. There's no one outside rather absent my left and some are right. For instead those guys they do so much for this offensive line of ease. People talk about his intelligence really kind of showing up in the film room and on the field.

4:27:40Where have you noticed that intelligence and how has that helped you? Yeah like I said and crunch time you know when things aren't exactly looking like how we practice it. You know we're having a guy like that. We'll do this this this and then we execute having a guy like that like this. There's nothing better than that. You're wrong. What you got? I'm very from this one. I'm okay. What's my favorite cake? Well, I'm not. Right brother. Uh huh. You like one of the candidates? Uh huh. No. I almost came back with a couple of sun to go some more. Tiger looking at Marshall. They got a couple guys. He gets a good. Big 10 Roddings. Absolutely. What do you see when you look at their tape and see 15, 7 and a couple of those guys are pretty pretty big.

4:28:43Yeah, those guys there. They're real players. They're real players. You can tell their coach well. You can tell they go hard. You know, they're real players over there. We've been practicing to the best of our abilities. You know, and I'm prepared for that. You see they being regained. You're taking the last year. The other day. They're taking the. Yeah. They play a good ball over there. You know, their defense plays hard. They challenge teams, you know, sometimes they might be overlooked and they still challenge teams. You know, you can tell they come out there with the mentality like no matter who's in front of the opponent. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know what we know. Right now. It's kind of a good thing in kind of a bet, then. You know, even checked the game off the rest. You know, I'm keeping it back in.

4:29:43Inside. Yeah. I mean, I hear from Chris Evey once and a while trying not to bother him too much, but. It's always, it's always good to hear from God like that guys like to one even out Jones returning back. Is that's, had me on camera? s Thank you. I don't know what to say about that. What do you guys think? I go games every day. This man is strong. I'm talking about like, you get the basketball field. You can't just do a thing. He was really fast. Just the overall strength is the hand. And he got the grip. He doesn't give up on the play. Like you said, he's going to go in and watch the film. He's doing everything today. He's better than I should see the hundred field. But I'm going to just one. So now I'm going to have to stop. You can see the improvement of the game. Here, if you was far off the round, I'll be like,

4:30:45He's done like a coach, man. He's done like a coach. Chip Kelly's in full exchange. You're mine. About maybe like the idea of tackle versus guard. Because obviously his offense of federal election is like offensive line play. That's what you can. A part of you settling in the guard. I want to say maybe I don't know. But when I'm pretty sure you got the job, I was really excited because I'm one of those guys who's the tempo. I can run with the tempo. I've been playing basketball all my life in set up football. And I feel like just the fast pace offense that we're running really fits the guys we have right now. I'm really excited for that. I know you can throw a football like 65 yards. But can you kick a football 75 yards like Lincoln? No. I have a question. Lincoln, what's your question? How is your room amp at either? He's a blessing, man. I can't complain. He's a great guy. What's his name? His name's Lincoln. Keen Holtz. He's a cleaner. Ooh, he's a cleaner.

4:31:47I think we're both really clean. That's why we kind of picked each other as roommates because we're very clean. We don't like our rooms really messy. Well, it's true though. It's true. It's a real pretty clean stuff. Luke, are you still cross-training in Tagel some or have you just been all guard this spring? So far, I've been all guard. I really don't know. Like I said, I'm taking it practice by practice. I could end up being back in Tagel, I could not. But I'm just really focused in on this past practice and the next one would be fun. What do you mean? You're on your own? You're on your own? Yeah. Oh, that means a lot. You know, you put a lot of work in to play here. And it's been a dream just for being in Ohio. I'm from a Ohio kids perspective. I mean, that's the biggest wish possible. I would say it would be pretty cool. What was it like just last year at first game getting on the field for the first time? It didn't feel like it was going to be a weird answer. I feel like I was playing a game, if that makes sense. I was pretty locked in. I felt like just no anxiousness, no stress, no nothing. I just went in that first game.

4:32:48I was like, shoot, I'm here now. It's time to roll. You know, it didn't really hit me. I was like, it didn't hit me after. I was like, what would you feel there? And if like getting out there in the end, I just like, honestly, I don't know. I felt less nervous than I did in high school. And that makes no sense. What is it? What is it? What does it seem like? I'm just trying to show you something. I'm not sure. A lot. I mean, I'm learning from Josh Ann Austin. I think, prior to that, we're my biggest role models here. He's my bigger brother in my first game over here. Tell him I'm a peddia? I don't want to say it. Peddia, okay. Yeah, no. Yeah, yeah. Peddia and Austin, those are my guys, man. I mean, even Miles too. I mean, all three of them. Those are my roommates. And they're progressing every day as well. And I'm excited to see where they can get to. I'm excited to play on the field with them. Oh, yeah. You know, it's been really helpful. You know, just keeping my mind just settled and straightforward on the next play. What do you think of Vegas? It's a great question. Like I said, I mean, I just need to take consistent in my work.

4:33:50I think that's the biggest thing for me is just taking consistent and worry about the next blood. That's really the first complete I was good. I was just rolling. Austin is a weird me. I'm trying to try to play the whole state. It was also the first start. Yeah. You, yeah. It's, but like, I prepared well. And camp and practice all week. And I was, I was ready. Yeah. I have two multi-year starters. I did a lot. I mean, I could ask them, hey, what we got here. But I was prepared well. I mean, I was telling Jimmy and said, hey, we play our blocks. I'll be emotional. What is it? What is it? It's a guy from Ohio. What does it mean to start a game? It was always my dream to come here and play and start. And having that played me. I was going to keep going and keep building those days. And go to games and keep building. What a much younger Austin would be if you could open you with that.

4:34:51Oh, no, not really. I don't think even I told him like, wait, I asked him, yeah, younger self, even committed here. I wouldn't believe that now having a couple of starts. Yeah. Awesome. Has this happened faster than you? I think we're going to come here with players. I guess you're technically a soft one. Play as a richer question. No, I knew that year two, I was going to see you some playing time. Now starting week one year two, I didn't see that, but I was ready. In spring ball, like I knew I was going to play some soft ones. What does it mean to you to not only get the opportunities to play, but like you play well enough now, and coaching staff trust you. They've been about there, whatever the situation is. So that's the earn that so where we want to get to. I guess it shows like my preparation, my hard work, and just everything I put into this and I just finally show up on a field. There are moments, the soft season, the end of the spring, and the end of the season.

4:35:52I don't realize that you could play at this high level, with the ones, you know, if you need to. Yeah, but definitely was in training camp. I mean, blocking highly can tie every day. Like it feels, it feels a lot of confidence in doing it well, and not like getting balled or anything. There's defensive tag wasn't that easy. Hero and Jason Morn, all those guys, I mean, pretty much anyone on the defensive line gets your face all the time. And Kay and Mack as well. Yeah. We've heard a lot about how the physicality is. How much can he help you? He helped me a lot, and I'm proud that he's our starting center, not someone else's, but I mean, he's like the captain of the line. He's another voice on the line with guys like Josh Fryer, Josh Simmons, Donnie, and Tiger. That means another voice and another captain on the line. Look, ways of having the men and women, it's much experience.

4:36:55How do you get in the middle of the game? I mean, a lot. He can tell you, like before the play was going on, like how to block someone, like what you need to do, and it helps a lot. Tiger is talking about how calm he is, how much does that fit in between you and the guys who's kind of been there and seeing the line. It makes us more calm, especially me and Kay, as a first star, so we were up here with Seth. He brought us down, and we were like five. Our emotions weren't high, we settled in. Is that something he tells you? Is that something you can pick up on by how he's acting? How do you kind of mean sense what he's trying to do? How he's acting, and what I mean, him, when we're on the side of him, both Josh and Donnie, like he was telling us, like, hey, we're cool, like we got him, but it's pretty much like, oh, everyone, oh cool group. I said, how much do you do that? As a first time starter, how much did you add in that? Me and a lot. That was my first time ever using iPads. We didn't use the iPads in high school, but you can say,

4:37:58like try to remember the defense, you can just come on the side and bring them, we'll play and get help up really soon. Probably the first or second, but after that, I thought we'd say all right. Awesome, thank you very much. You're not growing, so it's just experience. Williams, WSYF. Going back to Denver, you mentioned have his ability to bounce back. How have you seen him approach this week, particularly? Same as always, same as always, professional, resolved, competitive. Guns L has always been the same. He's always competing and no matter who we're playing, he's trying to get better. Jeremy Birmingham, podcast. Jim, I know the statistical output of that Oregon game in October is in an anomaly for sure on the season,

4:38:59it was sort of an inflection point that seems, at least from the outside of the game, on some structural things within the defense. How confident are you that it's fixed? Based on the fact that in the last seven games, you really haven't played someone that would be equivalent to what Oregon did in the offensive. Yeah. I'm always confident that it's fixed. And then of course, you always stay up at night concerned about other things. So it's a process. Obviously we have to go out there and do it. Every game day is a test. It's a test. Every game day is a test. So no matter what is done previously, you don't get any credit for that.

4:39:59You got to go out there and prove yourself. So David, tell me where did that? Andrew's a guy, obviously, who's playing more and more. What did you see from him when he arrived on campus, allegedly? He could play early on at this point. What did you see from him now, apparently, where he was when he didn't get on. Yeah, he's got great strength and competitiveness. He's one of those guys who comes in early and things don't seem too big for him. A lot of guys need that transition time. He's a guy that, you know, he'll make mistakes, but he'll learn from them and he really lets it roll off his back. And that's what you need to learn to play early at this level. You got to keep your fire. You got to keep your intensity. And you got to know you're going to make mistakes. You know, and not let him get you down. I think that can hamper a lot of young guys early because you're going to make mistakes. But, Edrick, there's a guy who's got a great personality and great energy.

4:40:59And he just keeps going. Dr. Barry, WBNS. Jim, you have said that you have great confidence in your defense. What gives you the confidence? What's the room like? Do you see an edge with your guys? Yeah, there's an edge. There's veterans. You know, I think that always gives you confidence when you have veterans. There's no panic. You know, if we give up a play or something negative happens, I mean, there's no panic. Guys know how to fix things. There's a lot of communication back and forth. You know, there's a lot of resolve to do whatever it takes to win the game. You know, no matter what happens during that game, our guys don't flinch. You see that they want this rematch? I mean, obviously, you got to beat them.

4:42:00The win the national title would get to the next level. But is this a game you guys have been pointing to that you want? I mean, you always hope for a second shot when you don't do well in that life. You know, a lot of times you don't get them. So we have a chance to do better and be better. But in terms of the week to week process, I think, you know, when you have a team that's together with veteran leadership, the week to week process stays the same. And it doesn't matter who we're playing, the point has always been for us to be at our best to get better from the week before, get better from earlier in the season and keep improving. It's a war of podcasts. We've seen games with JT had his best wrecking opponents jack at the end of last year. But it feels like there haven't been many, if any, games where they were both as productive at the same time as they were last week.

4:43:02Is that a fair assessment? Would you agree with that? Can you think of anything else that was close from those two together? Yeah, I mean, in my mind, they're both great players and great young men. You couldn't find better guys. So I probably don't see it kind of the way that you guys do. Because I'm seeing every play and every block and, you know, run game and everything that goes into it. I know, you guys with fans tend to just see the highlights, you know. But they've been consistent throughout my tenure here. There were been a lot of comments. What was this about? The word that was used out of the organ game was reengineering for the defense. I'm not expecting you to divulge too many details, although be happy if you did. What really did change structurally, maybe psychologically, whatever? What was the big difference after that game? And how hard was that for you being a veteran coach and having to reassess where you did that?

4:44:09Yeah, it wasn't hard at all. I think if you're going to survive in this profession and grow, not just survive, but grow and get better. You always have to look at yourself. You have to, you know, see things that happen on the field and go back to how did I coach that? How did I prepare for that? You have to take responsibility. Probably when I was younger, that was hard, you know, because you're, you know, you take it personally. I think now my job is to not be emotional about it. My job is to fix it, you know, that's my job. So you got to evaluate it and you got to, you can't blame the players. I think that's the biggest thing, you know.

4:45:11You have to go back to how you're coaching in your process. So, you know, in terms of the changes, you know, if I could write them all down for you, I would. But I wouldn't anyway. I mean, I wouldn't anyway do that. But I don't think I could, you know, I think it's a, it's a, it's just a matter of seeing what's wrong, what happened and fixing it. That's it. I think the organ is the only game, Jermaine didn't play in. I don't know if you remember what went into that decision to just stick with Dintel and Davis and the Ed and the growth. Did you see some Jermaine that made a lot of you guys think that he's made the more ready to play in the game like this. Yeah, I don't recall what went into that. But I know Jermaine should play and we trust him. You know, he's been getting in there more and, you know, we consider him a starter, you know, kind of like Cody Simon was for the first two years I was here.

4:46:18You know, he's that next guy, but we can put him in the game at any time and we need to. And if anything happens, he could play the whole game. We're going to cause the live portion of this press conference and go to the world wide web. I think we have a question there from Joey Kaufman from the Columbus Dispatch, join. I don't understand. Oh, I don't explain things to you. Hi, Jim. I'm still live. Just remember where are you? We're in California. But, hey, wanted to ask about Dylan Gabriel and his ability to avoid sacks is good in his ability to kind of avoid pressures turning into sacks. What, what do you remember about that first match with him and makes him tough in that area and just how confident you feel about your pastures being able to get home in those situations now versus where it was not over.

4:47:24He's really good at that. So whether it was our game or any game, you know, you have to have a plan for that. And, you know, we're going to have a plan for it. But, you know, I think the fact that other matters, he's going to get out. He's going to try to make plays with his feet and, and then deliver the ball or scramble. So we have to be very aware of it in both the coverage and the rush. We're going to stick with the zoom call. We have an Andreas Soto. Andres, you're on. I don't coach. I'm on desktop from the early times. JT has really been one of your anchors defensively along that B line. What does he do that specifically that helps set the tone for you guys up front? JT does everything.

4:48:25I mean, you couldn't ask for a better player in terms of the combination of skills that he has, you know, both in the run game, the past game and. And in making outstanding plays. So he does it all and he does it with a. A very consistent demeanor and. Leadership skills and, you know, everybody looks up to him, including me. He's just an all round great player and a great person. We'll go now to Cameron Key Robinson from the athletic camera. Jim, I know organs often to a little different than some of the ones that you guys have played this year. But I mean, both Indiana Tennessee this year have been pretty explosive in the past game. And you guys were able to slow them down. You haven't given up a lot of explosives since that game. What do you think changed for you all or is it just just a mix of pressures and everything we're kind of working at once?

4:49:26Yeah, that's all in the mix. You know, you got to apply the mix and. You talk about explosive plays all the time. So. I think maybe when you get burned by some, it becomes real, you know, even more real for you. So, you know, there's just been a continued emphasis on it. Okay, well, I'm back for the team. Maybe I'm Spencer Oldbrook, Letterman Rolk. Yeah, Jim, I think Ken had to play the most snaps. He's ever played against the right team. And probably it's doing with some of the second half stuff that you did. And then his growth, I think you guys want to have him on the field and some critical moments there. He's really talented, really talented young man. And you know, he's moved himself into that position through his work ethic and things he's shown us in practice and in games.

4:50:28He's just, he's moved himself into that area where you know, he could be a starter. And, you know, he's earned it. I think it's a good penalty at all. But obviously the one that he had Saturday, the question of going, yes. What, do you like appreciate that almost even though he gets called for it, that he's being aggressive and makes that that kind of mistake, rather than being like a Tim and Guy in that kind of atmosphere? I mean, he didn't do anything wrong, you know, he didn't do anything wrong. So yeah, we highlight, we highlight his effort. That's a really tough call, you know, because you're into the quarterback, you know, so it's one of those things that's like, okay, I'm into the quarterback. If he pulled the ball down and I landed on him, that wouldn't be a penalty. You know what I mean? So if I'm here, okay, well, pull it down, sack.

4:51:32That's not a penalty. But release the ball and then it's a penalty, you know, so it wasn't late. It wasn't dirty. It was, it was clean in my eyes. And so we highlight it for sure. Got that for a couple more. Tim, may you let him in or off? Yeah, by the way, I think it's ACC officials again. That's what Spence told me anyway. I call him three safes. Jordan Hancock, I count that group, you know, talked about this a little bit before, but going into this game compared to that six game, how much more do you feel free to do things with those guys? You understand what I'm saying? I mean, those three guys, Caleb and Laiton, especially. And I guess what was the lesson learned and safety use in that first game? I can't give away all of that. But you're right, you're right. We've grown Jordan a little bit, right? So he's able to do more things. So I think you're right, we're able to do more things.

4:52:33And who of those guys has really come on in the last six games from your opinion, Jim? Were they all three playing at a great level? I mean, just... Yeah, they've been solid. They've really been solid. I mean, I can't, you know, I think they've all been great. And final question, Bill Landis. Kings of the North. Jim, to the point of developing Jordan to do more things, it does seem like you're able to do a little more kind of three high structures where Caleb is in the middle and sometimes he looks like he's playing middle linebacker. What is it about Caleb's skill set, I guess, that allows you to perhaps unlock some more with your safety? Yeah, exactly. I mean, I know you guys really watch the film and analyze it. Yeah, I mean, you have a guy like Caleb Downs. You know, a lot of times you don't want to get him removed from a position to make plays, right?

4:53:40Because Caleb is a guy who can track the run and play the pass. So in that kind of setup, you kind of keep him closer to the action. And he's a guy that we need to make plays and he can't in the run and in the pass game. I guess what got you to the point where you sort of evolved to doing more of that? I don't know that we saw a whole lot of the first half of the season. Yeah. You know, again, looking at how we can do things better. I've done it in the past, you know, so just wanting to get him involved more too. He's a guy, like I said, who can make a lot of plays and make a lot of things right. He can make a lot of people right. So you think about how to get him involved more and that's one of the ways to do it. Coach, thank you very much. You can play a lot of high level for a long time and help with the value of getting five or a unit flow with that thing.

4:54:45You know, especially with how long the season is going to be, it's not going to take five. It's going to take six, seven, maybe eight, hopefully not eight, but they could. So I think it's invaluable that we had those experiences together. The first five have to be able to do it in the first six or seven have to be able to do it too. So you mentioned being like one block away on some of those sides. You're trying to get new trends in your career, like how long does it take for an offensive line to convert that and not beat this one block away? Is it just kind of a randomness with every season with every team? Kind of randomness. We just have to keep going and, you know, sometimes when you miss one block, it's kind of like, go crap. I knew I was supposed to do that. It's just a matter of doing it. I don't know. Does it feel close though? Yeah. I mean, the way the guys approach each day to prepare for the game. I think we're getting closer to that. And, you know, it's game one. We got a few good games to really work on that. And I'm not our technique in our chemistry. What it sounds like and it seems like watching guys too is it's a lot of coachable things and a lot of things that can be addressed in the film group rather than just guys getting people out of the game.

4:55:50Would you, is that how you would assess it as well? I mean, it's just guys. I mean, we're coached to do. We have the techniques. We have the toolbox to do it. It's just a matter of doing it. What's it like having will being so invasive? Is it quarterback? Is it going to be able to escape a sack when he needs to make plays on the run as a passer? What's that like having a quarterback with it? Yeah, it really helps. It definitely helps the offense line look better. And you got a guy that, you know, that's just so experienced like that being able to avoid the rush. As long as you're playing hard, you have faith that the guys back there's not going to get sacked. So, if you just keep blocking through the echo of the whistle, good things will happen to the align. So, you think I played decently well for being the first game, but there's a good thing is there's a ton of things to work on. It's definitely not a finished project. There are product for any guy on the align. But there's definitely a ton of them through. You got a problem with the stamps. The one time you double blushed it, I knew it. I knew it. What happened on the flash? It was just a matter of communication thing.

4:56:53For you, how have you felt your command and leadership like expressed in that first game? Are you where you want to be with that? And I guess coordinating the protection. From a leadership standpoint, I'm just challenging myself to be the guy that somebody can emulate. I've had leaders in the past that'll just yell, yell, yell, yell, yell. So, hey, we got to go harder, go harder, but he's not the one going the hardest. So, I'm really just trying to put an emphasis on that for myself. Be the guy that people can emulate. And when I say something, I want it to mean something. So, I have to put myself in the position to have that role. Did you think of the first game in the middle of high school stadium? It was awesome. The school session was awesome. I walked in there and I was just so grateful to be here. I started tearing up at the how exciting everything was. It's a blessing to be here and it's a blessing to be in this environment. It's seeing all the fans walking to the stadium. It's incredible.

4:57:53I'm still pretty sure I'm going to view a new straight wall. We're going to move it. We're going to make it compact and the rest are in kind of place. What does that do for the airline? It's definitely motivating. If a guy that's, you know, I'm not sure how much you weigh in or 220, whatever. When a guy like that can do it, you know, hopefully guys that are 300 pounds can do it. I didn't see it. They ran an internal stunt. I was blocking the linebacker this way all of a sudden I hear yelling and I was like, what the heck? He got up and started screaming. But, you know, running backs that can be involved in protection like that. It's big. You know, after three or four of those pops, those linebackers aren't going to be coming in and running down trying to get the quarterback. They're going to be like, go crappers or running back at. I got to avoid him before I get to the quarterback. That, thank you very much. I appreciate you all. The size of the calls in the line, like being able to develop as a player, obviously not going into super wide-eyed now, because I've played in those games, I've played a team of North, I've played it, I guess here against Penn State. I played out Wisconsin now. Sorry to play that in the other game, which is an electric. So being able to develop that skill of being calm and calm at the storm has been really developmental for me.

4:58:59Especially this next year, you know, playing in Eugene in Penn State and all those big places like that, it'll be really helpful. You seem like you've been somewhere. Yeah, and like being as young as I was is very hard to kind of understand, because looking at a guy like, like, look up there, you know, a Jersey guy, a big tough rug, you know, I want to be like that, but I'm not, I'm not that yet. And I think trying to be that kind of like bigger than I was at the time, looking back on it wasn't really kind of the best for me. Like obviously playing was super awesome is just for me, it was more of a developmental year, and looking into that as, I'm going to grow a lot from this, and looking back on that, there's some mistakes, I'm like, there's no way I'd make that right now, and there's no reason why I would do that, but I just needed that to develop into what I had to do. So I'm super grateful for it.

5:00:07Yeah. In my mind, I felt prepared. Looking back now, you're like, wow, that kid really didn't know anything. But I think just the confidence I had, not only in myself, but like the guys around me, like Donnie and Matt, and leaning on their years of expertise, and how much they've gone through has really helped, because maybe sometimes I'd be looking at them, I don't really understand this, and there'd be Donnie or Josh Fry, but I'm like, no, this is what we're looking at, I'm like, okay, it makes a lot more sense now, to help me become kind of the pointy guy from the line, and stuff like that to make those kind of calls that we need to. So, I think that's the best thing about the team, and I think that's the best thing about the team, and I think that's the best thing about the team. Coach Fry always says you know the best FIB play. That's regardless of the position, and I don't really have any, like, here or there, when it comes to what position, if I can play, I'll be more than happy, whatever I'm at.

5:01:09But, you know, the best FIB play, and I think it's a really good job facilitating and rolling as a different station and stuff like that. So, I'm not really sure what they have in store for us, but we'll see, it was in the spring, and then going into the summer, because all that can change as well. Currently I've been all centered. You mentioned that you're under size, what's your weight at now? Weight in today at 298. So, I'd like to bump that up to 300, like, 303 if I could. Like a real 303, not drinking gator, it's trying to do up to 303. But, that'd probably the end goal to really get my legs into that leverage going against guys like him. What has been like of balking up as since you've got here every one out? You can ask hero, he's my roommate. He's been force feeding me kitchen social. But, I was doing that, drinking in weight protein, she's getting in touch with killer, the artificialness, her and Zoe are super awesome. Kind of developed a good plan for us to get up to that weight, because, you know,

5:02:11if you can play heavier and more in your legs, like why won't you leave money at the table? And I think, for me last year, I was like, I really struggled with that. Kind of doesn't plan of keeping my weight up and playing way, way lighter than I should have been. Like, two of these weight, too crazy. And I think that this year, like, developing with coach and making stuff like that, it's like real weight. It's not like, kind of fake water, we water you weight. It's like real, like, I can play my legs a lot more. You were playing you two 88 times last year? What else really, really low? That was like the beginning of your back on it back up, obviously. When you were talking, it was like, I'm actually basically trying to have that. I do. I don't know if it was that because I had all that, like, help on the line with me. I wouldn't say it was a trial by fire, but it was definitely a big learning experience, especially for a young guy who wouldn't do it, not playing a single snap. I remember I was so nervous before the Indiana game, I'm literally shaking up and tearing up. And stuff, and I'm like, oh my, I have real, you know, going into it,

5:03:14you think, I'll put all this work on my tribute there. And then you go back and you watch the tape this year, I'm like, what about doing? So I think it's such a good developmental year for me that I'm super, so grateful for that experience. And then going into this year, trying to learn off that and learn off what we've learned this spring into the summer. I think it's going to be really good year. If you want to take yourself now for this like a practice, as a person, you can pair doing what you're doing. You watch the tape that wouldn't do last year. What were you trying to do yourself that the biggest game you've experienced? Mostly just playing in my, like, height and playing in my leverage. I would always have a problem with like, really tight ankles and playing like, tall on my toes. And whenever I got high hips and like, I'll play that, that's when I get snagged and tossed. And then just like more recognition of what's going on having the game slow down with you. Because the more you grow, you kind of feel like the game, obviously doesn't really slow down. You're going to be a faster every year, but it starts to slow down a little bit for you. So like, you just kind of see last year and be kind of like, jeering and figuring out what I'm doing.

5:04:14And then that's where I end up in those bad situations. But this year, it's more like film study and more study with the coaching and stuff like that. I can find myself in better positions of power and making the right blocks. Is this not 100% knowing exactly what you're doing? And that's not a coaching problem. That's not, obviously, it's a me problem, but it just comes with reps and it comes with experience when you haven't had that before. Do you have a notice for that? I have a lot of coaches. So what do you do? I do. Do you have a rough word for it? It's just kind of like, you know, your indecisive, as a better word, when you know, when you know you're 100% ready to make this block, you play so much faster. And this year, when I've been able to do that, I played obviously, I've had some see-hunting. Look at the results of the 20. How long has it been? How many times do you think, and what does it take to perfect that? I think we read the least, I don't know how many times I've practiced over the weeks that we had off. I mean, just came down to, you know, they pressed me.

5:05:17We were taking a shot. That's what they told me. The weeks we was off. And he told me, her before the game in the locker room, I just got to give you a shot. And that's what he did, and I just made a play. The first game to get historic, and just how tough was that challenge against their secondary? I know you have to pin them to get the end of the game, but you guys made plays all day long against them. Just what, what's your thought about the challenge those guys gave you? I'll say the challenge is going to be, you know, a good challenge. They have some great global guys there. Jabarmahama number seven, or Niko Rhee, or the other corner of my knowledge over there. They're a great global guys. I mean, probably the best we go see all year for sure. We just got a good name, you know, Bio, Ohio State. That's all. Tony, you're a man. Fuck I have a man. Dear, why are you not open? I don't know. Probably wouldn't hold a team on me, I should say. I mean, I'm always open to me for sure. Me just, you know, throw the ball in my area. I'm going to find a way to make a play. That's all I could say. Step on Christ Nick, Cleveland.com.

5:06:18You talked earlier about, you know, some of the great athletes that, you know, got challenged and you aspire to be like, I guess, where is that confidence kind of come from for you? How long have you had that confidence that, you know, you have the ability to be one of the greats in this sport? I mean, a lot of people tell me that I'm going to be great at what I do, since I was about going to high school. A lot of people tell me that, you know, football is all I know and that's all I really want to do. Like, I live, breathe, sleep, football. Like, that's all I really care about. Don't care about everything outside of football. Like, football is all I know. And I just want to play football in my life. Thanks for all of our lettering and roll. It seemed like you were well, we're trying to collect on some of the balls throughout the year. You'll be able to finally do those in that moment. That's kind of carried that forward. What's the same about the way that you guys have been able to continue to progress through chemistry? I mean, just, you know, the weeks that we had all, we were just working on deep shots, because they tell us, in meetings that we have, we got to take shots down and feel.

5:07:20We just got to connect on them and, you know, will tell me before the game started. Like I said, you just got to throw the ball out then just give me a chance. And I'm going to make a play for you. That's what you told me and I just got to make a play for you. Adam Kane, don't you be an ass? We can all joke, we can all talk about the expectations and the start of this become, you know, you were just 13 games. How do you handle that? I mean, just a freshman, how do you take all these expectations? No, when you step on the field, then you're always open and still go out there and play. I mean, expectations, I mean, I can't know how you're staying for a reason. That's what I wanted. When it be challenge, I wanted the expectations. The expectations, I should say. I mean, Coach Hotline just helped me throughout the whole year, just preparing me for each game, each week. A mega booker, a cardinal tear, Brendan Enders, really the whole receiver on them. Just helped me stuff I don't really know about. It just helped me throughout the whole week. And I can't really say it's all on me because my talent is, but they really been a big part of the reason.

5:08:22I'm having the season that I'm having for sure. Andrew Gillette, please go to the dot com. Jeremiah, over a thousand yards, 12 thousand years, when you look back at your freshman year, what was the most difficult part about adjusting to the college game? What was the part that you had the hardest part about trying to train this one? Learning that playbook. A playbook is something else. Just coming in, spring ball, me just new plays in every week. I'm like, what is this? This new plays every day in Coach Hotline. You're going to be good. We got summer fall camp. You're going to be great. Just, that's it. That's definitely what's the hardest part of just learning the playbook. A lot of other things have to say for sure. How long did you try to get that down? How long did you take me to feel comfortable on the playbook? I'm pretty sure I got it down. I'm packed right now, but net season, I really want to learn everything. The HZ, I really want to learn everything in the playbook for net season. That might be 24-7 sports.

5:09:22You mentioned how many guys it might take because you did not feel open. So when you are one-on-one and Will's talked about when he sees you be one-on-one. What is going through your mind as you wind up and realize there's one guy covering you. When, that's all I could say. I mean, as with Coach Hotline, we do something like in a hotel Friday night before the game. He asked me like a question, like, you get one-on-one, something like that. He asked me, what do you do? I say, when? Everybody just started laughing. I don't know where I would be like. It's true. You got a when, you're one-on-one, up, out of the blue. So, yeah. Are you familiar with the right-build landed teams of the North? Jeremiah, did you move to your rounds? I'm going to send a seed to the point where you get a couple matchups against linebackers. What goes through your mind when you find yourself matched up against a linebacker? I just started laughing in my head a little bit. I mean, linebackers can't really cover receivers like that. So, I just know, like, it's most likely going to be open. But, you know, they just try to move me around a lot,

5:10:22because, you know, people try to bracket me when I'm outside just alone by myself. So, that's why they just move me around a lot. Or less, maybe a little bit more in the lantern. Jeremiah, you mentioned the most difficult part of your freshman campaign as they learned in the playbook. What has been the best part so far? The best part? Just being in a room with a great group of receivers, me just going out there competing, each and every day, learning from the best, making a book of Cardinal Tagell learning from them, guys. I should say that's been the best part of learning from Coach Hartlin. Just gaining more knowledge that I could use over the next two to three years that I'm here. I should say. So, yeah. Okay, we're going to wrap things up with a question from our Zoom call. Joey Coffin, Columbus, this back. Jeremiah, how much have you thought about the way the working game ended with the,

5:11:23for you, an October with the passing experience call? Is that, but on your mind at all, is you kind of get ready for this game? And what are your memories of that call when you're feeling about that? Yeah, I think about our call probably every day. I mean, just, you know, it was a crazy call. I mean, just, I mean, the DB was holding me, I just cleared his hands. I guess receivers can't be physical in football anymore, but DB's got hold, 10 yards, 15 yards down the field. So, I mean, it's behind me. I just know how, you know, the move here and now, when the DB is grabbing me, I just know how to move now. I can't be, I guess, can't be physical as receiver in College Football anymore. But we'll just see how things play out this game. Your mind, thank you very much. Well, I wasn't seeing eye-dice in certain areas, I'm seeing certain aspects with just with my coach heart and the coach day. But we, like I said, we cleared that up. And even though it took some time and that's what I had to do to get that, and that's what it was. But I mean, we're pretty much past that now.

5:12:23We're just really moving on, getting into the strangers, really giving them all for them and giving them all to the team. We're looking at what's going on last year, while we're leaving, and we're looking at what's going to be within the strangers, and gradually, and theoretically, at least three open spots have been on top of the board. But you also often do a special use of this discussion. We're looking around at probably the best you've taken, how do you think about it? Right. Did you just not see, maybe, the smoothest past that get onto the field, and then, you know, you're just going to be going to the corner and then, and then, you know, the conversation is not going to be going on. No, most definitely, I feel like I'm a very talented guy, and I can compete here, and I can compete anywhere in the country. I just feel like I just wanted to be valued somewhere, and just really seen what I was doing, and I really take it for granted. And I mean, like I said, when I have them talk to Coach Dan Cothart, it was nothing taken for granted, just the path God had me on. And I just really had to get clarity and see that. And once I did see that, I hit the ground running from there, and it's just been nothing but great vibes and great energy in the building.

5:13:25And even my teammates welcomed me back with open arms, and it's been even closer bond with them. So I mean, everything happens for a reason, and I felt like that was pretty good reason for me to do something like that, and just pretty much have a comfortable circle back to me. There's a lot of things that you're recruiting that probably sound good, right? Right. I mean, why does he rule? But then, like you did here, you see what that actually means, what that entails. Is that an eye-coded person, or is it like when you're hearing, or is it actually experiencing what's actually necessary to be able to move up and pecking for you? Oh, yeah, most definitely. Like we say in our room, Coach Hart preached every day in our room, it's like, you got to be uncommon and most uncommon. And that's the definition of a state. It can't have a bad day or a month's of, best athletes in the world, and most of the league players in the country. So I mean, just how you say, like, hearing that sounds good, sounds hard, but even being in that and being in them shoes or being a player, and actually going through that, it gets real. Absolutely, it gets real. This day is your doctor's self, there's days that you second-guess yourself. But I mean, it's just all part of the standard of your children,

5:14:26and just stay in your children's self and keep believing in the very thing you can do. And kind of get rough with him on their own side. Yeah, so that was sick, so not so much. But I think, like, through all the back-end of the camp, I was also awesome. In terms of building chemistry, then, how did that go? It seems like pretty serious, I was, you know, with you stepping on all the things. Exactly. It was. I was able to kind of grow a lot. And we came to see that, like, the first two weeks, and a little bit of the buy, I was able to play next to them, so. Now, should you just see so much more comfortable confidence from your press conference? I mean, is that true? I mean, how much more comfortable and confident are you right now? Yeah, I mean, that's something that Kuzbe says. You got a little confidence, and that goes to the best D-line unit in the country every single day. So I think that alone will build your confidence, and that really, obviously, it's time to lock in and floor it on a game day, but when you go on a good school, I'm going to get several weeks on a two-star, I guess. Are you just kind of a ready-to-go talent team for the end of the quarter? Uh, control the week, try and play discipline, and make sure I don't, you know,

5:15:28put other players on my team, and the bad position, but yeah, I'm trying to maximize my potential. Josh, how did you get better at reading defense? Uh, that would be a coach for I could try as a genius at, I guess, not only teaching real play, but teaching you why the play is being called to a certain look and stuff like that. So, um, when you kind of go through a whole offseason with that, you know, you're going to buy a week and camps like that, it's just going to, it's going to marinate you. How much relationship for him we can in your high school and not college? A lot, so, I mean, I kind of knew, Coach Fry had like a, like, gifted at this type of thing, because he was really smart, he kind of teach you a lot about offensive line and stuff like that, but I mean, enough, I didn't think he was going to be like this for my dad here. Um, I mean, so him having him, having him as like a resource to come to and just to say, I had a, not so good day of practice, I'm coming to him, he can explain to me why this happened and stuff like that, and I can just go for him. What do you think has been the biggest difference in moving on the game? What do you think has been the biggest difference from the game for all of you guys to move on the ball to the right side?

5:16:34I think is, I think one of the reasons that, uh, our offensive started in the lift. I think we have like some athletes on the offensive line. So long as to kind of get out on the space and kind of, you know, kind of, destroy those the second level in the show. I'm telling you. How close is that, Coach? Take the ass, get out of the chair. Oh, that's fun, I mean, that's, that's something that I love to carry forward, because you can, you know, just get us a good knockdown play. You know, I know, too. In that dark moment, you know, in your state of equipment, I see you again, I know, you're pretty busy, and you have to take a little bit of a shot. Oh, I said, quote unquote, it's, uh, with that feedback brother, so that's it. You mentioned chips play calling, and what is different about the longer you're going to chip Kelly off to his versus the offensive? It's, uh, it's, it's not, you're like standard offense, like just, you know, it's kind of really simple. It's more you're going to have to kind of, it is, practice it a little bit. How challenging is that? Like the first few bumps, like learning all the different points?

5:17:35Uh, for me, it took a minute, but I think obviously double coach fraud and stuff like that. You get out here, you get extra workings. It goes all the way there. You have to do anything in the same style as that. You can do it in the same way. Absolutely. It kind of puts you, like if you think, well, you kind of actually put yourself in the game. Just imagine you being up there and just kind of playing in the game, and that was really good. Yes, and it's finished. What have you been doing recently? I'm just a little bit challenging. Going on the road, absolutely. Going in, somebody else's home, you know, taking their food is probably the best thing you can have over four years. Just when you say, in the club, getting a dress to chip Kelly's offensive, actually practicing in like the minutes I've actually put the song into it, and eventually the practice line, and I'm just like, what is the hardest part of your training? I would say probably it's always changing. I guess, you know, nothing really says the same, so you can't really...

5:18:36You've got to always be... You've got to be alert, I guess. Just kind of when it's just like this. Josh, you're changing. Or just more formation, more formation. I mean, yeah, it's just...it's always like different. It's my indifference. Josh mentioned the athleticism on the offensive line. It feels like Josh Fryer really worked at that. And the soft season, getting leaner, better bench. What have you seen from him on the other side of things? I've seen exactly that. He looks a lot more athletic. He looks very fluid in his sets. Backside cutoffs, he looks like an entirely different way. The reason that I'm starting to take away from him is when I'm watching film. Are you guys ever competing to see who can get farthest down the field on those big, like second level blocks? I'm trying to say absolutely. You can hit their faster MPH and stuff like that, and probably just stuff like that. Yes, that's the advantage of this. Sets out there a lot. Oh, yes, he's. Sets always. How much has been into this offensive line? You know, I'm a guy who's pretty experienced in the middle. How much has he been to you guys?

5:19:36He's been to a lot of them. He played in some really big games. I was in Mel Bellman, and I'm playing with, you know, really, really big games. So I guess he can say no. He knows his way around this whole thing. So he kind of teaches us how to teach us different tips and tricks on how to... Let's say it gets a lot. Obviously it's more interior, but... Yeah, it helps a lot. You guys have a lot of experience. You guys have a lot of experience. You guys have a lot of experience. How much is that? It's the first couple of things you see. I mean, it matters a lot. I mean, obviously that's one of the biggest things that when you have something like me and I'm playing against each other and then you know, tag ground fire, like that's like kick-kim. You know, they can play against each other for a little bit. So we like to play for a brother and I'm just going to play with him. It's hard to see. Josh, thank you very much. You're welcome. Thank you. This is on the lead time 6-10. Can you just take us through to that play and what you saw and then how you saw it develop in the game? So we sent the blitz, and I'm coming through the...

5:20:39the big gap, and the run-about came to block me, and I shed at him, and I shed at alignment. And I just saw Jordan Love really like throw the ball, so I just jumped up, and the ball was just right there. And then shout out, leave a high-man, he got that block for me. And then I knew it was touchdown, but I just couldn't really believe it. But I just want to say, man, shout out to my team, man. I couldn't do this without you all. Have you read about it, Chef? Did you feel the responsibilities that you started to say, David? Kind of put it like yourself, and they can make more of it. For sure, that's my brother, so I'm going to pick up his slack. You know what I'm saying? But this team is built off next-man mentality. So, you know, we built off that adversity, you know, free BB, man. But, you know, we just got to be smart. We were making plays like that. But that's just who he is. He just has that dog mentality, man. What's the whistle, man? We just go hard. What about the reason why you're here? It's like 30 in the opinion that we have to get off the field with no points. It's helping us at the defensive. I heard you go off, how much you were impressed by that? Man, like I said, man, defense, our job is to limit points, you know what I'm saying? So, the more we could limit points, that helps our offense, and that helps the team win.

5:21:41So, shout out to the defense, man. It wasn't perfect, but we really got the job done. Takeaways is just important to the defense. We should we could have got some more. But, man, we're just going to continue to get better, watch this film learn from, and just continue to get better. What do you think of B.B.s. Jackson? I mean, the referee is going to have to do their job and stuff like that, but I'm never really going to tell B.B. to slow down. You know what I'm saying? That's just who he is. He goes for a speed. And I love that about him. So, man, free BB, free Jambo too. What do you think of that? That's what I'm talking about. I ain't even see that. I ain't even see what he did. But, yeah, you know, we're going to get him. You're going to get off now for years. Just keep playing at the number one level. We're happy to let him for a level today just to start the game. Wow. This is quite terrific. What is it about him that makes him so hard as a defense defender to get overhand? I said, what? Just what's it about his game? How hard to get a kind of overhand on golf? On golf? I feel like this is this composure, you know?

5:22:41It was raining out there, but JG still knew what to do with the ball. You know, I'm saying he knows where to go. I had to operate his offense and who guys he has to get the ball to in certain times. I feel like JG is very smart too. So, he just really understanding. I feel like, you know, defense and training camp, you know, I'm saying really got him to be a fan for all of this. You know what I'm saying? But, yeah. Is that better than you better? Yeah, yeah, yeah, every time because, you know, like I said, JG smart. So, and training camp me and him was going back at it. You know, I play safety. So, I'm always reading JG's eyes and reading the concert that he's going with it. I'm going with it at quarterbacking stuff. So, just going back and forth with training camp, just really complimenting each other. You know what I'm saying? Iron sharp, iron. And then, quarter back carries that type of composure and for his story to a game, how does that trickle down to the rest of the confidence? You know, I feel like we always put our trust in JG. You know what I'm saying? I'm off of LJG, like you said, man, he has great composure, you know what I'm saying? So, even on defense, things are going to happen. But what we got to do is keep our composure and understand, man, we're built on adverse situations. So, sometimes when stuff goes wrong, maybe we got to make sure we get out the field, like, end the midpoints.

5:23:42I feel like you do have the interceptions that you have in the first three years. Is there career in the set in the league? This wasn't the end that kind of thing. Man, I feel like it's just everything. You know what I'm saying? Even just the comparison. I feel like one thing I always tell myself, man, I'm chasing the gold jacket, you know what I'm saying? I always tell the boys, like, what do you want your legacy to be? So, every time I'm out there, man, I'm just showing our tape, man. This is who I am. And this is who I'm going to be. Kurt Blocking. A little late. Did you have Josh on the assignment there, where you just come on the blitz and it was kind of a happy accident? You tell him, you tell him, I had a blitz. I had a blitz. I had to just go get the ball. So, you just happened to run into and it worked out really well. Yeah, yeah. So, I think he came to block me, but I shut it him, and I shut it off as a lineman, and Jordan Love just do it, man. And I'll glory to God, man. I just, you know, I'm thankful for it all. How quickly did you know you were able to house it? So, now that's how I leave my block. I was like, nobody's catching me at this point. It's just crazy. I couldn't even believe it. I'm running. I'm running in the end zone. I just really couldn't believe it, but man, a happy man. It's just so real, man. I just want to say thank you for my team, man.

5:24:42All good, God. It's worth my views team. It wins in and so it wins in. The first place in the division, I've heard a chamber hold on. How important was this win for you guys? I feel like it's important because it's a statement out to the NFC. You know what I'm saying? I feel like we really control it in the NFC. And you know, it goes control the NFC and then we're going to play out and then chasing that suit.