Press Conference (Emeka Egbuka) Elite Edition September 2

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2:01It's an amazing venue. It's so beautiful. They do a great job. Helstere for the players and coaches and families. So it really doesn't get much better than this. Having a chance to redeem ourselves from what happened earlier in the season is something we don't take lightly. We're very thankful. Austin Moore, the podcast. Mike, what if I told you that Jeremy Smith wasn't a freshman over the years? I did hear that. I don't even know who won it. I don't know. If I'll sense that in Texas. Yeah, I mean, I don't know. That's a, you know, we know what we got here on our side. We're not too worried about, you know, awards and stuff like that. So I know JJ, the type of kid he is, that's only going to motivate him more. So it's fuel to the fire, which I think is good for us heading into this week. What was the first moment that you saw in the Pellas? This could be something. I would say probably just his mindset, not even obviously he's a freak when it comes to, his body and stuff like that, just his physical nature, but I think just his mindset,

3:03the way he approached the weight room, it didn't really seem like a way of freshman would. And he was our only freshman ever to receive Iron Buck, I reward, which is something I was pushing towards my entire time being here. But it takes another level of doing to be able to receive that reward, especially as a freshman. So, you know, that's kind of what I knew. Steve, it means more on that. When you and Mara first got here, Garrett and Chris were adamant about the way that you guys, even as freshmen, were pushing two guys who were about to be first round draft picks. And then Mara kind of said the same thing about Carnail and Brandon last year. How did JJ push you guys when he first got here as the young guy, and now you guys are the older guys? Yeah, I would say it's very similar. It's kind of the same exact thing. And I'm, you know, I don't know what it is about the culture and its own sex, but we keep bringing in these type of people you're in and you're out of that. That's what makes our room so great. But I think that something that JJ was able to push me in was just, you know, he was able to push me in my leadership. I needed to grow in that aspect, but he also was able to challenge me when it came to the weight

4:07room and on the field. Because we were always paired together when it came to summer and when our workouts were always lifting together. You know, I get a couple wins. He get a couple wins. So I was really that next level step of competitiveness that I needed and that edge that I needed. That Murphy 2474. You guys came into the Tennessee game with a lot of outside motivation with Michigan loss and kind of the three weeks of the talk. I don't obviously there's still not motivation to go on and win a national championship, but how do you keep that kind of edge to lack the better term mentally after some of that stuff has kind of gone away and probably the big one. I would say kind of if you lose your edge, I wouldn't really call you a true competitor. I think that, you know, the way with the college football playoffs is structured. The intensity cranks up weekend every every single week. So if you're not more intense than you were the last week, then then something's wrong with you. I think that, you know, Tennessee was a great win, great for our momentum, but we have our full focus on Oregon. Not worrying about anything in the past, nothing in the future. Our full

5:07focus is towards this game. And then, you know, we win this one. We go on to the next one. Our full focus is going to be on that one. So it's just you keep moving down a ladder like this. Mecha, there's been a lot of change in college football in the playoffs. I think it's a that nature, but you know, the way in some of your teammates and coaches talk about the Rose Bowl seems like that's one game that's really, you know, maintained a lot of that tradition. You play the net. You know, what it's about. Could you explain it to, you know, also you would never have a chance to play in a wide the Rose Bowl. Does maintain, you know, that level of respectful players and coaches. Yeah, I think, I don't know, they're just something about us. I'm in the air down there in Pasadena. It's just a beautiful venue, especially that time of the year. Like you said, the tradition is held year in and year out. And it's kind of the game you dream of playing in when you're a little kid, you know, playing back yard football with your friends. The role of always always one that that tends to come up. So just having a chance to play in it is definitely very surreal. And this is going to be my second time. So I'm going to do my best to take it all in while also being fully focused on Oregon. Dan, let me worry.

6:08Matthew Will said he still has 90 minutes about that first game in Oregon. Just what kind of drive you seem to him this week wanting to get back at this one? Yeah, Will is, he's a laser focus person. He goes about his business. He's very loose and he's very calm and he's able to rally the team. But you can see it in his eyes that this game means everything to him. So every single practice, every single huddle, making sure we're sharp, making sure we have a better practice than we had last than yesterday, a better practice in Oregon is having. So his full focus is on being this team. And obviously it's hard not to think about the stuff of the past, but I know he's laser focus on what we got coming up. The ocean moves us. Whether that's surfing a wave or taking in an inspiring view. The ocean feeds us. Sustainable seafood practices bring the ocean's bounty to our plates. The ocean teaches us how our everyday choices, big and small make an impact. The ocean delights us as playful otters restore coastal kelp forests. The ocean connects us. Find your connection at

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8:25Honestly, I wasn't I was never really a Buckeye fan until, you know, I really committed here. And I saw what it was all about. I was actually an organ fan growing up, especially on the Pacific Northwest. You know, my grandpa went to UW and stuff like that. So I liked the Huskies too. But there was a legendary football player named Foto Liatto from my high school and he went to organ. And a couple of y'all probably know that story from a couple of years back but he tragically died in the car accident. And you know, he was he was someone I looked up to in high school. You know, I was relatively close with him even though he was a bit older than me in age. But just seeing what he did at my high school and then going on to play big time football organ. That was a school that I really dreamed of going to. Is there one moment, one play, one something that made you disco. Oh man, I've never seen it before. That's just incredible. Yeah, I'll say it's happened multiple times. There's not really one. I can pinpoint but the more he does it, the more

9:30I tend to react less. So I would say probably my earliest memories of it were in spring ball. Kind of getting the first glimpse of him when he's making all these ridiculous catches and he still does it time and time again even now. But it's just more common now for me. But you had I think it was 12 touches in the first game against four organ tenders such as two carries. Is there something about this matchup that favors you? And now that you have where that productive the first time you played this team, what kind of attention or I guess maybe different defenses are you expecting to see? Yeah, I mean, we're not entirely sure what their game plan is going to be but we're paired for everything. You know, I'm not going to get too much into schemas like that but we know that if the ball comes our way, we've got to make those plays. So whether I have 10 receptions again coming up this game where I have zero or one, we're just looking to get this win on the road because it's really a road game for us, you know, flying across two times zones. So I think that you know, it's going to be a great matchup. Whether they tend to focus on me more or not, it doesn't really

10:33matter to me because I know our team has a great plan regardless. You can kind of feel it throughout the game, I would say. You know, he's a true competitor. He wants to get involved but at the same time he's super selfless. He's really humble. So he's going to do whatever it takes for the team to get a win but it's the competitor nature and then that wants to contribute as much as he can. So, you know, I try to be in his ear to tell him to be level-headed and stuff like that, not that I need to. He's a very level-headed and selfless guy like I'm saying. But you know, sometimes that's just how the game goes. You know, I had a game this year where I only had one catch but you know, we ended up winning by lot. So I think that, you know, it's hard or it's easy to be focused on the personal attributes that you could have game in and game out. But no one's really going to remember those if we're holding up the trophy at the end of the year. He could be a number one. He could be a number one. He could be a number one. He could be a 95% of the boss who's right now but he's like number three. When you see his work as a all of those

11:34things that he doesn't dare to make a play, you guys ever come behind him like, yeah, this guy can absolutely be a number one on the most golfing bar. I would disagree with you. I think that he is a number one. I think that we don't have a number three receiver. I think we have three number one receivers out there. So whatever the defense, you know, if they want to put their attention on one guy or a couple of us, they're not really doing themselves any favor because we're going to have a favor. We'll match up on the other side of the ball. So that's never how we view ourselves. We know we're alpha dogs out there every single one of us knows we have the capabilities to be a number one receiver and we are number one receivers. And final question. Steve, how long has 24.5 sports? Yeah. Mech at the end of that game, you made one of the clutch plays that passed down the sideline. At any time when you make that play, you think, did you ever your mind that we're going to win this game after we were now close to field goal range? I mean, did that play in your mind say, my goodness, we've got a chance to get out of here with the win. Yeah, I definitely knew where I caught the ball and I knew we were, you know, close to being in field goal range. So, you know,

12:35there was a sense of, you know, I knew I knew it was a big play that I made, but in those moments, you have to finish out the game no matter what. You can't get a big head. You can't get complacent. You have to finish the game until the clock hits zero. So that's something we've been working on. We work on two minutes every single Wednesday. Every single Wednesday practice. So today, we'll work on our two minute and we don't even call it two minutes. We call it clutch because in those times, in those games, in those big moments, someone has to make a clutch play. So, we're focusing on that every single game, knowing that we're going to have to make one of those plays coming down the stretch here. What would it mean if you're able to finish this one off and get to the final four of this playoff? Just what in your mind, just, would this be, you know, just the ultimate, I suppose, to be a team that's already beaten earlier this year? No, I think the ultimate would be winning the national championship. So, um, the ocean moves us, surfing a wave or savoring the view. The ocean delights us as playful otters restore coastal calp forest. The ocean connects us. Visit monoraybayacquarium.org slash

13:39connects. CalShi's own CEO says it himself. Any of the two thirds of people on CalShi lose money. So, what does it take to be in the other third? You have to do extensive amount of research to be good. There are people that spend copious amount of money, time, resources, energy, they've dedicated their lives to basically becoming good at it. All that and still. Any of the two thirds of people on CalShi lose money. That's CalShi in their own CEOs words. Go to www.fairpredicts.com to learn more. You know, we're focused on this. This just happens to be the next team in the way. We're not focused on when we played them earlier this year, whether they got the win over us. They're just a nameless faceless opponent. So, we're going out there fully prepared. Not worried about what's happening in the past. You know, we played them before. We felt them out. So, it's all about who got better from that point in time until now. I'm happy to thank you for your time. Thank you. We plan as much. So, I just wanted to get like more experience under my belt. So, I can know bring younger guys with me because I've been through a lot. One of those younger guys, we're seeing it out here. It's the first time I've scored all your last years. What have you

14:42seen from Lille? Because I kind of felt like last year, we all forgot about it because he was hurt. Now he's running, you know, almost a second man out behind you and Ty. What have you seen in the past? Well, there's a workhorse. He goes, stay quiet. He goes, work hard. And that's what I love about him. He focuses. He don't really talk much. He's going to get the job done. Do a job right. He rarely has any mistakes. So, what would be a successful season? A national championship. I ring when all the games we don't want to lose anything. We got a mindset that we can't be beat and we just got to go show it. That mindset different. It seems like you guys expect a national championship every year. This year even more so. You guys have all come back for this. You guys have all decided like numbers and numbers. That's keep feeling different. It's not really any difference. It's just the same. It's definitely a difference. Everyone working harder. We noticed our last run. Most of us don't have any years after this. So, we got to go bigger, go home and we're not trying to go home. Finish big. We know what you guys think of Michigan. But when you look at what they did,

15:49they won the national championship and you guys took them down to the final minute. You know what I mean? You were right there. Something goes a little different. You guys could have won that game against them. Does that tell you anything about like that? Hey, you guys want to win a national championship but you played to the 59th minute with the team that won the national championship last year. Like you're that close. So I'm saying we just like work harder. That's kind of coach makes of saying you know nobody cares. Just work harder. Like those you know, we'll play Georgia. It's the same thing. Last last play. You know, they went on the win in 90. So we just got to get over that hump at the end of the season. I think we'll be fine. How frustrating is that? You're that close against the last two national titles. Of course it's frustrating but you can't change the outcome. You can't really dwell on it. You just got to come back and work harder. Do things better than you did last year and hopefully the outcome will change. Is that as you get older you kind of learned? I thought I was working hard and you always find out there's a little more you could have been doing? Yeah,

16:50definitely. I mean that's how that's what growing up is basically in college. I thought freshman year I was working as hard as I could but now I look back at it. I really wasn't working hard at all compared to what I'm doing now. So just to learn anything. 80 85. I mean I can it's all on me. I think it's a little higher. I was just trying to be funny but I mean it's all on me. I just got to run harder. Yeah, the shape. I think I think I definitely can lie. I was just you know we got to get the young guys to come along with us. We can't play 50 snaps again. That's just too much on our bodies. Just everybody online. We got to get those younger guys to play and get that pieces on the D-line and

17:53the online and everywhere else so we can last that long run. Speaking of that, would you like playing that movie? I don't know if any of us were really expected to play that movie. Yeah, I did. Unless we were like winning by like a lot. I thought like there are no moments you know I can go sit down or something but we're playing them big games like you know Notre Dame too or North those kind of games. Of course I want to be because I know I can contribute and I won't want to put that on anyone else when I know I can get the job done. Yeah, definitely. Came back as a came back to animal. You haven't really seen it yet but in practice he shows all the time. He's just he's growing right now. He has to work I think. He just has to get you know in the playbook and things like that. You got to know about the exact same size. Listen, you're both listening to him. You're three twenty seven. He's three twenty six. Yeah, I kind of look at him like my junior but you know came in he's going to be a great player. He's got to develop more and get in the

18:53playbook. So really a lot on you older guys. There's that large group of young guys and then there's the seniors in the back as part of your task for this year to bring those guys. Yeah, definitely. We got to be leaders. Like I said, we got to have them play this year. We can't just play all the snaps. They got to get in there and get some work and we got to get them right during the all season. So they can play and not just play. They want to like contribute like make plays, tackle his sex. It seems like these guys get bigger. Each one of the freshmen class. Yeah, they're definitely some big dudes and they all work hard. I'm really seeing much of some day too. I'm not passing on but throughout the workouts they've been working hard. You know, they they're determined. I just say that and it looks like they're ready to work. There's a lot of great defense that you have big athletic defensive tactics who can eat up space

19:53but also move, you know, right? That is that. Is that an requirement maybe for great defense? Have guys like you that have some balls but also have great feet. I think that is definitely. I think if you look at the last couple of nice and championship winners, like team of Northe, you know, they got two good, uh, detaco two athletic detacles. Look at Georgia two athletic detacles. I think that's definitely need if you want to go on that big run and beat those big teams. If you think about that, they want to find by the defense attack. What's Georgia? Jordan Davis and Daniel Carter. Let's miss you again. It's Chris Jenkins. You might as well as how I mean, you understand it because you play it but I feel like some time I don't know. Are people realizing how important defense tackles are? A little bit more than they used to? I think so. I think they're starting to develop to develop more and more of these like freaky detacles. Yeah. Like in the combine, just now you see in like those guys, they're moving four to seven eights and things like that. So we'll see. And when you think about the

20:57freaky shot, how do you think you fit into that old of that kind of player? You watch that and say, yeah, that's me. Yeah, definitely. I think I'm top notch when it comes to detacles, but I don't want to, you know, get a big head, but you know, watch it come on. I watch it do the drills. I have TZ like you're looking like my film. So I think I'm up there. I mean, as many as I can have, I think I have more than that, but I think they've encountered. I think they've encountered some of them and it's some of them where I like just missed it. So, but I think we work on drills matching the hand. I think that's, uh, goes big and uh, what we do is a D line, you know, just affecting the quarter of that is anywhere you can. It's just great for the defense, you know, just that little thing you cover in

21:58his eye, you know, he might throw it a little bit to the left to our player. So, so it's something that you really, really have to work on. That's one of the things that you've maybe worked on the most. I think you're trying here because there are a few guys that I've seen, like, oh, that pass through the back. We don't have to ask. We're kind of kind of expected for the physical. I think I just have like a, like, a eye for the ball kind of, I kind of just look at the quarterback and just, I see him like load up. I just try to get in his ways and sometimes he's throws it to me. I'm irritated if you want to be a high state quarterback. I mean, they get frustrated, by, you know, we're just good. That's a lot of, a lot of different backs, man. They just learn to grow for them. I don't really have a top three, but I'll give you, I'll give you one. I would say, say, Juan Gibbs and I like McCaffrey. Although he was injured this year. I like McCaffrey.

23:06Best back in this drive. I lead out of the yard. That's y'all decision. Playing with Will Howard, what I'm going to remember most. We're a Howard, man. He's just such a great leader, man. It's just like in moments where, usually a lot of players they fold, man. He was just always calm and relaxed, man. He just the leader that he was, man. That's one thing I'm going to remember about him. Yeah, he's, he's going to be really good, man. He's on Coastal Lark. I think he got the transfer in as well from West Virginia. Just that one, two punch with them both as well. They're going to be really good backs. And so James PEOPLE is, man, he's smart the way that he goes about his business, man. He's mature. And so, man, he's growing just as a person and as a player. And so, man, yeah, definitely Ohio State. That running back room is in great hands.

24:08Yeah. Coach, Coach Hartline, man. He's full of energy, man. And he's creative as well. You know, I'm just learning from him as well. Trying to run more outside the backfield. Was being able to learn from Coach Hartline. And so he's definitely creative at what he's, he does. And he brings a lot of energy to the team as well. And so I think they'll do really good. Just intensity, man. And since he got the playoffs, every game, man, it's like the intensity got, you know, higher and higher. And so, you know, being able, I know in the lead, it's the same thing. Even if it's not the playoffs, just every every game and intensity it keeps getting higher and higher. Yeah, you just, I know you got to bring it, you know, each and every day and come in and work. Just like Ohio State, you know, I definitely feel like Ohio State, they definitely do a good job of preparing us for that. You know, I just remember even before going through this process, how I'll talk to a lot of players before then. And they told me a lot of just about how much Ohio State prepared them, you know, for the NFL. And so, yeah.

25:08Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I know I took a couple of days off after the National Championship. And then shoot right after that. I'm writing sample Florida and I'm right to it. And so, yeah, I think while I trained, I trained at YoMurf Performance. I think it's called the House of Athlete or the Compound now. They did a good job, man. They're just bringing us in and the way they went about training us, man. They did a really good job. The Buccaneers know I haven't. Temple, a Tampa nice. It's a nice city, man. Really nice. Uh, the 40 to broad and avert. You've been on races and awesome lockers. Do these beat-tier mentality of like when you've got a linebacker or the gap, you're the new and you're ready to swear a lot of those. Yeah. Yeah. No, man. Uh, it's really all about technique. And then it's about mindset as well.

26:11And so, um, I say, you know, it's for the love of my brother. It's for the love of Wil Howard. It's for the love of the receivers who I got on the perimeter. Just making sure, you know, first of all, my quarterback doesn't get sacked. Um, and I, I told Wil I think it was before the first game. I was like, I got your brother. It's, uh, I said, man, I'm not going to let you get hit, you know, um, and so, um, I don't know if I don't know if I gave up a sack. I'm not sure that, um, but I know if I did, I haven't given up too many. And so, man, it's for the love of my brothers, though, man, making sure the ball get in their hands, you know, the guys on the outside and making sure they get fed. In my game, uh, you can't really work on this, you know, in all season, I feel like it's more so, you know, you got to put the pads on. You got to go through some inside run, you know, maybe, uh, it's really just continuing to run through tackles. And so that's, I feel like that's one of the areas in my game. You know, I want to continue to get better at it. I feel like I did a good job at that my senior year. And so I just want to continue to build on that.

27:12Yes, I did. Yes, I did. Uh, I did meet with New Orleans as well. Um, I never got that comparison. Actually, um, I know I'm a Camera. Sure. Yep. Man, I've come here great, great back, man. Um, just what he does and those 101 matchups, he's dangerous, man. And he's so smooth. He's so smooth as well. I'm not going to be even like he's smooth. Yeah. Um, inside zone from stack, being able to hit that thing downhill. And I'll say the next one is probably just an option route out of the backfield, you know, and man and man coverage, you're getting on that linebacker. And so, yeah, I say the man the biggest thing is the way that he carries himself, man, in the way that

28:16man, um, he approaches the game. He comes in with the mindset, you know, he's going to work every single week, you know, every practice, you know, he's working hard, you know, um, even shoot, I don't know, every good, I think he had a, every game was a good game for him, man. And so, but still, man, he always has him in Tallah, Dita, mindset that, you know, he's going to come in each and every day. He's going to continue to work and get better, man. And so he's definitely man, he's going to be a special player, man. He really is. Man, a lot of ups and downs, man, it's just how you respond to adversity. And I feel like that's something that God has definitely helped me to do better. Is this, um, not have something to lean on now, you know, I remember before I met him, you know, going through those adversity, I had nothing to run to, you know, you can run to people, but they still can't, it's not too much, they can't truly help you. You know, I feel like, you know, I feel like the only person that can truly help you is your relationship with Jesus Christ. And so, um, being able to lean on him, you know, he gives you, in those moments where it's tough,

29:19you know, where it's low. And um, when you're behind the scenes and you're going through things that people don't know about, um, he gives you, he gives you that peace and comfort, you know, um, even in those moments, man, we're so hard that you can't, you can't explain. It's like, man, I'm going through this, but like, how am I still filled with this internal joy? You know, how do I have so much peace in this situation? And so that's something that only Jesus Christ can give you. And so, Howard? Um, man, those guys have such a great mentality, man. Um, I just really love their mentality, especially, um, Q as well, you know, I talked about Will Howard, his leadership, but Quench your own mentality, man, um, that boy just, yeah, that boy just gifted, you know, you see, you know, sometimes he put in a situation where he looked like, you know, he should have negative five yards. And then as soon as you know it, you know, he, they're running through

30:20somebody, step on him, somebody and shoot, it's a game to 10. It's a, uh, um, shoot, I think, yeah, man, I think it's just like, he's just gifted, man, to be honest, he's just gifted, you know, he's, he's a big back, you know, he's strong. And so, um, you know, he's, he's able to do, he's able to do those things. And so, um, yeah, man, it's definitely, you know, I look at his game and I want to, you know, at the same time, I want to learn from Quench I, you know, I want to look at this game and it's like, man, where, where can I get better at as well? You know, that's the type of player I am. I'm always looking to get better, man, I'm always looking to grow as a player. Julian San, oh yeah, he's going to be a great, but he's going to be a great quarterback, man, he's so, so accurate. And so, um, he's definitely, man, I know Coach Dez definitely going to get him right. Just, you know, um, continue to grow as a leader, continue to grow as a player. And so he's going to, he's going to be really good for a high state. Uh, he's, I know just the quarterback position. Um, I feel like, you know, the quarterbacks

31:21in the past, they've, they've definitely been vocal. And so I feel like that's something that they're definitely going to ask Julian San as well. It's to be that vocal leader and lead, um, and lead to offensive lead to steam. Sure, man, he has, he has a bill like JK Dobbins. And, um, I kind of see them, you know, similar similarities in their game as well. And I know JK Dobbins, he was a great running back. Um, I feel like he's not talked about his, no, um, a lot, but man, his career here, you watch his highlights is, is great. I remember, um, before I recruit, before I committee here, I remember watching JK Dobbins highlights like every, every, um, one of his years here, like four or five times. And so, man, he was such a great back. And, um, I feel like, you know, um, when I see JK Dobbins, when I see, um, James people, I see similarities to both of their games. I feel like they play the same. And so, appreciate you all. Yeah, I'll be going.

34:06Yeah. Well, I got coming in last year. I knew the role. So I just attacked every day really the same way. It's taking advantage very rough physically. How different are you? Weight wise, body wise, all that from the year. Um, I think I got a lot bigger. I'm like 240. I'm like 244 right now. Last year, I played it like 236 to 37. What does it feel like at 244 or better? You feel like almost a different machine out there. Yeah. What does it, what does it feel like to be running around out there like you are, but with more and a more bad. I just feel like I'm like, like, like, more downhill, like stronger. Like I'm taking all the bloods better. It's big. Yeah. Is it daunting? Uh, maybe that's not the correct term, but to think you're going to be playing much more than you did even last year and you played quite a bit last year and stuff. What do you have to get straight in your head about being on the field that much more?

35:11This is going to get ready to just play 30 more snaps. So, but are you, are you, how would you describe how much you're looking forward to it from an age standpoint? Yeah, I'm looking forward to it. I'm ready for it. I'm ready for it. I'm ready for it. The text is open. It's a rematch. So it's a rematch. But it's not really two different teams compared to the ones that I'm going to play and stuff. How is that enhanced this camp for you and this team getting ready for the, we're an opener of that magnitude? Yeah, we're the opener like that. We've been, um, we've been emphasizing it a lot. We know we got coming. So we know we got to do, we've been preparing for it. I already just probably worked today. I think Riley ready to play right now. He, he advanced freshman, like he ended up hitting the book. He stood in like he advanced and his measurements was crazy. Like he saw like the saw line too. Or you said you're ready. I don't know you're ready. What was that process like during last season? Could you feel yourself becoming more and more ready for whatever the team needed for you? Yeah, because that's pretty much what my role was. Just whenever I was needed, I had to step up. So I feel like that's what built me

36:15into me being able to say I'm ready for this year. When you say ready, is it more a physical thing? Is it a mental thing? When I say ready, I think it's pretty much like everything physically, mentally, mostly. I think I'm there. A different is that feeling this year than last year? That's the one more time. How different is that response? The ocean delights us. Some marvel at the colorful world below the surface. The ocean feeds us. Others find nourishment and it's bounty. The ocean teaches us how our everyday choices impact even the deepest places. The ocean moves us. Whether we're riding a wave or so can in its breath taking beauty. The ocean connects us. Find your connection at monoraybeacquarium.org slash connects. Calci's own CEO says it himself. And yes, two thirds of people on Calci lose money. So what does it take to be in the other third? You have to do extensive amount of research to be good.

37:18There are people that spend copious amount of money, time, resources, energy, they've dedicated their lives to basically becoming good at it. All that and still. And yes, two thirds of people on Calci lose money. That's Calci in their own CEOs words. Go to www.fairpredics.com to learn more. I feel like it's a way bigger responsibility with me having to step up this year. But I kind of go about it the same way like last year I was attention over everything I did. I feel like this year is going to be the same thing. It's probably a little bit more. For somebody who's some reason, it's not. It won't work. How's everybody working? I say, describe my game. I say like when you think of me, you would think of like a like a bullet, like a silver

38:20bullet. I don't really a bullet. I'm always on the ball. That's how I like to play and think. I think I'm a nickname. No, I ain't got to be my nickname. But Oh, yeah, yeah. Um, think of fit me because I don't know. I just like the defense. I feel like we got, like you said, we got a lot of freedom and we're moving around a lot. A lot of the times is like no, I don't know. I don't really not answer that. That's okay. Does it? You can go on your end stakes a little bit more, maybe? And it's not so thinking of too much. I don't even know if I say that because there's a lot of thinking going on, but it's like I just like his defense. I like other pretty different things. I like what he got going on. Now I wanted to much sad. I was kind of like happy for him. Yeah, that's what you want.

39:25No, that's my dog. I don't see it. Kind of missing a little bit, but yeah, I'm happy for him. Well, don't think go ahead one last question. Coach Daze talked a lot about the guys who played some last year, but maybe weren't the starters and the hunger for that wasn't maybe your national championship. You guys will win your own. How much do you feel that is a guy who certainly contributed last year, but will be in this bigger role and along the summer year. Your classmates. Yeah, I do feel like, I did win a national championship, but like you said, my role wasn't the same as how it's going to be this year. So yeah, I definitely want to go get another one experienced that feeling, maybe on the field, a lot more place. That's it. Great. Oh, Bill, thank you very much. Thanks, guys. Thanks. Here, I want to be a part of this team. And when you want to and you have passion to add value, that makes it a little easier to get up and do the workouts in the off season, whether you're 22 or going to be 31. So yeah, I mean, it's definitely special. Do you talk about the organizational little bit? I mean, they have always had this

40:27reputation of rewarding the players. You see this off season, St. Brown, golf, you know, Pney, not yourself. What does it say about the organization that you feel like it's changing the reputation a little bit with rewarding guys like this one? Well, first and foremost, those three guys absolutely deserving of every penny they got. Incredible. And you know, me being in the room with Pney every single day, like I was, you know, ecstatic for him. And of course, the other guys, Pney is my line. He's my guy. I think it speaks to a good culture that's been built. And it's not built on sand. It's genuine, it's real. You bring certain guys in because of what they can add not just as players, but as people. And like I said, it's a genuine thing that the staff is looking for. And it's not, oh, we're just going to bring this guy in and then get rid of them and try to find something cheaper.

41:31I just think it speaks to the culture. We find guys that fit. We find guys that represent what we are about. Not only are they phenomenal players, but they represent us. They represent the city. And to be able to keep a core group of guys around, I feel like more and more in the NFL, you guys coming in and out. And it's hard to develop kind of some cohesiveness. And especially us on the offensive line, we got to play together for a long time now. And that's valuable. I mean, it's, that's big time. And then you think even the quarterback position, where his drops are, how he moves in the pocket, things like that. And then Jared and his familiarity with, with Saint. And I think it speaks to they want to win. We want to win. This is what we're here to do. We're here to win. So we're going to keep our guys. They can help us win. Yeah. Express your desire to stay, but didn't sound like anything was skimminate. Can you just take us through how this came together from your perspective? So I've been going back and forth a little

42:37bit for probably about a year and a half now with the organization, because I knew like I want to be here. There was no, no questions for me like, this is the place I want to be. I want to stay here. And then there's just a lot of moving parts. I'm not the only person in this organization. I'm not the only guy that wants to contract extension. And then I think. Coming off two surgeries, I think they probably wanted to see how I was moving around a little bit. And then in OTAs, I actually went up and I had a conversation with them. I was like, where are we at? I hear things from my agent. And from our salary cap people and they're talking and I'm getting kind of second hand information. I want to hear it. Like, tell me where we're at. Just so I know. I just want the information. So it's communicated well. And pretty much what he told me was to see what happened. And I just basically had to stay patient. And for me, it was never going to be hold out of training camp. Oh, if it comes to the season, we're not going to play games. That's

43:40just not me. I'm going to show up and I'm going to play because that's what I do. And that's what I'm here to do. So I think it was pretty seamless. I just talked to Charlie and Disneyer upstairs. They said it was super smooth. I think it happened in a day, which pretty much all my second one happened. And my third one happened as well pretty quickly. So I think there's I think there's value in just showing up and going to work. And I think the team knows that I'm not going to change if just because I'm not getting what I want when I want it. And then ultimately we both got what we wanted. So for me, it was just I got the information that I wanted from Dan. And when we communicated man to man and it was very amicable. And since that conversation, I felt like it was promising that it would happen. I didn't know when exactly. I had a ballpark idea. And then it all worked out.

44:40You know, I showed up to camp. I went and played and the agents and the salary kept people do their thing. And now, you know, moving forward, I can just focus on playing football going through camp day to day. I don't have to have any of that hanging over my head. And it's pretty good feeling. Taylor, all I am doing is a very famous job. It's not here. What does it mean to play for a team that values that side of the game? When did you first sense that from Brad and Dan? You know, there's a couple times every single camp where Dan will come into the offensive line room. And they'll say, I need to see it today. And I've never had a head coach come in our room and say something like that. And he would pop in every now and then and just say like,

45:40I need to see it from you guys. Not that we're not out there working hard every single day, but he's like, my eyes are on you guys today. And it seems like a lot of those times, they're kind of some ballbuster practices that are going to be kind of a grinded out. And that's what offensive line is. And I think you see it with the way they draft. They draft guys in the trenches. And even dating back to before they were hired, this organized it. I was drafted. Graham was drafted. Joe was drafted in my class. Frank was draft like we were drafting lineman. We were trying to build this team the right way. And we had some pieces and then Brad and Dan just continued to build on that. And I think it's paying dividends. And I can't speak enough to, you know, going back to the culture fit of the quality of people that they bring in. And how when you get along, I don't know, just people's play flourishes even more. And that's another big reason like this is where I wanted

46:42to be. Like I had pretty much no interest in going to any other team. I wanted to be here. And a big factor of that is the guys that I get to play with. And I want to continue to play with them because they're important to me. And I think, you know, the offensive and defensive line based on how the drafts have gone and based on the quality of player that they've brought in. I mean, you can see that it's, it's definitely of importance to the organization. Kind of along the same lines, given where the roster is, given the success of the team's head recently, is there something extra validating about getting your first contract extension under this specific regime? Yeah, 100%. Not that I didn't think that they wanted me here because if they didn't want me here, I wouldn't be here. But I had gotten my second contract from a, you know, previous regime basically. It's not like I never felt like I was like one in here, but it's just like that little extra, hey, we want you here. And we want you to continue to add value.

47:48Because we're a young team and I'm not getting any younger. But I still think I can play. And I think I can play for as long as I want. And that's kind of kept me young. And I feel like that's kept me motivated to kind of have that edge. But yeah, I mean, it's just that little extra where just kind of reconfirmed. So I mean, when Dan was hired, he called me that same day. So it's not an instance of, oh, I'm not one at here. They just kind of double down with this contract. We love you. We respect you. We want you here. We think you can play. We think you can continue to add value. And let's get this thing going. Thanks guys. You guys travel. You're fans travel very well. But I was this game is in Dallas. Do you guys kind of thrive and like the playing front of hostile crowds?

48:52I think guys kind of like going in an enemy territory sometimes. You know, it feels good being a little bit of the villain you could say. But yeah, I mean, obviously you got to take the fact that it isn't in Texas. So it could be a lot of environment. It could be like in a way environment. We obviously know that. But I mean, that's right. I don't know where you put the ball down. We're just going to come show up and play. And I think there's a staff that you guys your opponents have not been called for a holding call since September or something like that. Is that something that you guys are aware of? And do you guys point out on the film? Anything called out? What do you call that one? Yeah, we're aware of this. We don't pay attention to too much. So you guys just play. I don't really got too much to say about that. You got to just play through and just let your talent take over. I want to come down to a ref decision. Over here to the right Austin Ward. The podcast. Something that didn't feel like against Oregon that you guys had to blitz as much as you had in maybe some other games in the second half of the season. Why is that? What does it allow the linebackers to do when you don't have that responsibility?

49:53What what made that a successful approach on Wednesday? Yeah, I think when you got as talented as guys we do the front of those four guys up front. I mean, a four-man pressure is feeling like a six-man pressure to the quarterback. So you're able to drop out and be able to drop everyone else in the coverage. So it makes a lot easier on our defense when the defensive line is just taking over like that. I mean, it's it's tough for an offense to do anything. We got four four-man four-man rush feel like a zero coming at you and then you got everyone dropping into coverage. It's kind of just shelt over the field. So I mean, it's definitely makes the defense a lot easier for everyone else when the defense line's playing like that. Jim Knowles had talked about this a little with having so many veteran players that you could make different game plans. You don't have to just be, you know, pigeonholed into one thing. We got to week. Does it feel when you get in there and you guys start game planning? Like they are very different for every opponent for you guys at this point? I mean, I don't know if I would say that. I think they keep it simple enough

50:54where guys aren't like confused when we're doing. I mean, it might like look like that, like the quarterback. We might be giving them different looks and things like that. But I don't think it's over complicated at all. But I mean, that might just be because we got a veteran deepened as well. So it could be a little bit biased. But that's kind of the way it feels. It doesn't feel over the complicated when I got. I will go to Joey Coppen Columbus this back. Sunny, how do you think it's helped you guys to have the Kaila Downs drop down more into the box? Later, late in the season, I've been doing that. It seems like more. How does it help you guys? Yeah, I mean, I think both our safeties have done a really good job, you know, dropping down in the box and being able to come down faster, run support. I mean, I think when you see guys coming from 12 yards and they're making tackles for two yards games, it's all that's pretty impressive. I mean, you saw late in the last game come from the weak side boundary hash, about 10, 12 yards, you come down, hit the dude at two yards and then home was knock him out. So, I mean, both our safeties are super impressive in the run game. So it definitely makes it the health of the defense. You know, usually you're dropping the safety in,

51:54usually those four yard runs, five yard runs and where they're stopping for two yard runs, no yard runs. So it's super impressive and it helps the defense out a lot. We'll go to Jeremy Birmingham, the podcast. Sunny, how much does the defense structure really changed since the Oregon game in IndieG? Or is there some more of the lost time about you guys just being more veteran and knowing the defense better or as there've been fundamental changes than it had been made? Because it looks a lot different. You know, I mean, I think there's been some changes, but I think a lot of this mentality of trying to be a speed more aggressive than we're just trying to just having an aggressive mindset. I think you've seen that when it showed up on tape with the pressures, the TFLs and things like that. And I think we've gotten a lot better since like since the beginning of the year and we kind of improved on the issues that've shown up each week because the issues are always there. And I think we've improved on those really well. And then obviously looked like a completely different team now. You got to be in a different aggressiveness from the coaching staff since then,

52:58not just coach Nol's individual position coaches like coach Lord Knights, but even from Ryan Day, like it's, has he been a different type of leader? I think he's been a great leader the whole year. I think after that team on Norfolk lost, we kind of hunkered down and say like, hey, we're going to get up and we're going to start swinging. And we're going to keep swinging as hard as we can and see what happens at the end of the game. And I think that's what we've been doing the past two games and this worked out pretty well. Now next to Mick Walker, Letterman Row. So, you mentioned a great kind in earlier. What stands out to you about Gunner Hellman? How do you kind of take out a guy that's a kind of such a focal point for all of us? I think he runs great routes. He has good hands. I think they set up some really nice plays for him. You see some of those plays where he kind of sneaks out of the protection and comes out, comes out wide open. I think the biggest thing that stands out is probably the routes in the hands. He's super impressive for a tight end. Obviously, y'all always be aware of where he's out on the field and there's going to be some explosive plays set up for him. Any other questions here?

54:02Tens on the quick guy. Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. Letterman Row. I'm sorry. Good minute eruption. Jerry, when you were in a nutshell, how would you describe him to someone? Because he seems even more effective when he kind of gets out of the pocket or moves around and stuff. So, what do you see when you think of him? I would say the capability of like early on the game, no him getting his routine, like some of those routine throws, routine throws. They run the ball, that's play action shot 50 yards and I'll feel, it's like that. I think the super good job of that being able to sell the play action and pull the safeties up and then pitch you downfield with a six-year-art bomb, and like that. So, I think that's the biggest thing that stands out to me on film. He's a super talented quarterback, super talented arm talent. He can get the ball out in many different ways. But, yeah, that's probably how I put it in the nutshell. He's just super talented player. You can make any throw on the field. Like he said, he can move around a little bit. I don't think people respect that enough, his legs, he can move around and extend the plays,

55:04and hurt you downfield. The guy used to be in this building, at least for four or five months. I wasn't really here with him, but the only thing is really, you play some former players before, but obviously he's a talented player. I think a lot of guys have a lot of respect for him, so it's just going to be a good match. I'm excited for it. Go to Bill Rebellion's Columbus Dispatch. Adam, I wouldn't talk to you next. I'll ask you now. I'm sure the last thing you're following along, you're going to be talking about, do you have any idea what you're going to do next year? I mean, you obviously can go to the NFL. Do you have any thoughts on that right now? No, I haven't thought about it at all. Just worry about what. Scotty, that's it from Columbus for Sonny Styles, any more on your end? No more on our end. Thank you, Sonny. Thank you. My reps and he's had his first year of game time reps, those third downs and things like that. I think he's came in and done his job pretty well, but I think he's just already trust. Each week, week after week after week, he's already trust with Scotty Knows, so I think he's going

56:06to keep it better. Round out of them. I don't know, honestly. I don't know. He wrote both, but pretty good hits. Yeah, I mean, I think Coach Day talked about all the time when you go out there and play a game, where you're on the game, there's some individual players on both sides of the ball that are setting the tone. For example, you see like, wait, then we'll play the ordinate and they're running back around the game. I feel like that sets a tone or you see our outline firing off the ball, putting people on their back, traviant and punch on, running through people like that sets a tone. I think the rest of the team beats off that energy, so it definitely does something.

57:09Yeah, obviously, what's the tone is the lineback? You would be physical. You're physical, you're physical, you're like, well, let it go. I know I'm going to be here for quarter quarters, but not chasing after the play, but I mean, definitely feels good to be the one set the tone. I think they have a variety of backs, running backs that are all explosive, love, they got 24, they got the other kids 20, these daddies being a foul player, and then also another part of the right game is quarterback. He's very explosive, he runs hard, but I think there's just a variety of ways they can do it, and they're very physical and with the way they run the ball. I think as a whole another dimension to the game, yes, a whole other dimension to the game, and obviously you have a quarterback running the ball, as I actually had the boxer, as your blocker, so it kind of messed with the defense sometimes, sometimes sometimes you might have that bringing the extra head to the box and match that, so it can be a little tricky to know.

58:13I think he's dangerous either or I think sometimes the scram was a little more dangerous, you got to drop into the coverage, taking their eyes off the first that game, it kind of opens up the field form, that's like a guaranteed like 10 yards, you don't have someone spying them, so that can hurt you. I mean, you feel like you got everyone covered and then you turn around, he's he's springed down the field for 10, 15 yards. What do you want to do? What do you know more about the wheel around now than you did in a few days? There's a tough play, we covered three, we got to protect the inside first, it's fast guy, but I think you got to get hands on them, you got to collision them, the mess of the timing of the route, and that's why I didn't do everything. You don't know their name, but you got to do it right. I mean, we were younger, probably a receiver, you know, you didn't play that, probably more receiver, he was always like so explosive, he was scoring so many touchdowns, but as we got the high school,

59:14I could see like his build and his speed and size and his county, he would definitely work at DB as well, solid street interest in C.A. He was ever going to switch to DB, which obviously you didn't have. You got to match your physicality, you got to match their will. I mean, when you say they find a way, I think that's to do something with their will and start with their head coach and coach Freeman, I think he does a great job with the team and it flows all the way down through the players. I think the quarterback, Ryder Leonard, I think he's a huge part of that will to just get it done, that you see a lot of times in like fourth and once, fourth and twos, or third and three, third and six, they give him the ball. I think that's their guy. I think he's a great competitor, he's a great leader, I think he'll often speed off him. Thank you very much. You have, you know, continue to take steps in his career. He's still very young, so he has a lot of good football ahead of him. The ocean delights us. Some marvel at the colorful world below the surface. The ocean feeds us. Others find nourishment in its bounty. The ocean teaches us.

1:00:19How our everyday choices impact even the deepest places. The ocean moves us, whether we're riding a wave or soaking in its breathtaking beauty. The ocean connects us. Find your connection at monoraybeacquarium.org slash connects. CalShi's own CEO says it himself. And he has two thirds of people on CalShi lose money. So what does it take to be in the other third? You have to do extensive amount of research to be good. There are people that spend copious amount of money, time, resources, energy, they've dedicated their lives to basically becoming good at it. All that and still. And he has two thirds of people on CalShi lose money, lose money, lose money, lose money, lose money. That's CalShi in their own CEOs words. Go to www.fairpredicts.com to learn more. You're really sensitive to the key barrier involved. Yeah, we haven't even started install yet. I haven't even got a lay of the land quite yet.

1:01:22I'll probably take a look at just our iPads within the last few days. I'll try to take a sneak peek at what we have looking for. But I know with him talking to Zach Erts, he does a great job of trying to get his playmakers involved, which I think we have a really good group of guys from the run-of-backs, the receivers, and some solid tight ends as well. So I'm just looking forward to see where I fit into that. And I think with him, his biggest things is making sure that playmakers are making plays and trying to fit the scheme around that, which is always good to hear. Good to see you too. This is what your fourth author, that he adopted this dude. Yeah. It's easier if you do this. It's definitely an adjustment. Obviously, when you're learning a new offense, and it's kind of the same mentality I take into last year and years past where you kind of just want to take a day one approach. You kind of erase what you've learned in the past. But at the end of the day, I think

1:02:25schemes and NFL are relatively similar. It's just the names and the formations that may be a little different. So I just get used to the terminology and the offense is just going to be something that's adjustment for all of us. But the good thing about it is I got some good time on my hands to really put some work in studying when I leave this place. So I could come in here when we have walkthroughs and when we start to put our helmets on, we can really get the ground running. So so far, we haven't learned anything yet, but my approach is the same. Try to take good notes in there, ask good questions, and then study on my own at night. Yeah, I think I got some really good work down in Florida. Just working on my footwork, just being better at the top of my routes, sharp rowing my speed cuts, dig routes, out routes, and just being cleaner with my footwork at the top of the routes. I think, you know, with a little bit of zone coverage that we've seen in the past with some teams kind of running more too high

1:03:28shell, you're going to get a little bit more of catch technique where guys are kind of sitting at the top of your route. So I want to be better at being efficient again. All those routes, when the guys kind of sit in my depth, whether it's a 15-yard comeback or a 12-yard curl route, you know, being able to get out efficiently so I can keep creating, keep the separation within my route. So obviously, I'm always still working on my ball skills and making sure I'm just catching a lot of footballs in all season, but just really being better at the top of the routes and, you know, sharp rowing my cuts is something that I think I can improve on. Hey Terry, Scott Abraham, good to see you too. You know, you're obviously one of the leaders of the team that's been in so many new faces, new players in the locker room. What is the challenge you're going to have in the other leaders in that locker room? Yeah. The line with everything together to get somebody new, different personality. Yeah, I think that's really started with Coach Quinn in the way he's really integrated everybody over the first two days. I think we haven't even gotten into X's and those quite yet. We just really

1:04:32begin to know one another getting out there with Chad and the strength coaches and getting some good workouts in. Just kind of creating a fostering an environment where everybody's the same and continuing to have a competitive environment. I think that brings out the best in one another. And obviously, you know, you have guys like Zach Urts who's played a lot of football and won a championship. A Marcus Mario de obviously Bobby Wagner who's a future hall of fame or so. You've got some guys who have been brought in here who know what it's supposed to look like at this level and for myself, I just want to continue to add my value and be even more vocal this year than I have in the past, especially with possibly a new quarterback coming in. I think that can really help our offense have, you know, some more unity with the guys who know what it looks like, helping bring those guys, the younger guys along. So I don't know if you had a chance, the watch can't spend opening from conflict. You didn't want to use the word, uh, retail. Yeah. When it terms all the changes going on with the brand guys, right. You can do everything of all the new changes and you're talking staff, all the new players. So there are certain wordy reviews or

1:05:36how do you view the whole brand so for everything? Honestly, I just think of it as a new year. Just talking to Sam Cosme, we've been here for a few years. So there's a lot of new faces. I think, you know, this is probably the most, I would say, turnover we've had in the last few years. So there's guys coming from all different areas, walks of life and, but I think the one thing is the saying they're all coming in looking for an opportunity to compete, taking another step in their careers and prove that they're one of the best players at the position. And I think Coach Quinn has emphasized that we're going to have the opportunity to prove ourselves, whether you're a 10-year-old or a second-year-old. The ocean delights us. Some marvel at the colorful world below the surface. The ocean feeds us. Others find nourishment in its bounty. The ocean teaches us. How are everyday choices impact even the deepest places? The ocean moves us. Whether we're riding a wave or soaking in its breathtaking beauty. The ocean connects us. Find your connection at monoraybeacquarium.org

1:06:43slash connects. CalSheezone CEO says it himself. Any of the few thirds of people on CalShe lose money. So what does it take to be in the other third? You have to do extensive amount of research to be good. There are people that spend copious amount of money, time, resources, energy. They've dedicated their lives to basically becoming good at it. All that and still. Any of the few thirds of people on CalShe lose money. That's CalSheez in their own CEOs words. Go to www.fairpredics.com to learn more. Player, you know, this is a clean slate for everybody. So I think it's just about getting on the same page and joining coming in here and working together and also just pushing each other in these workouts. And then when we start getting on the field really get that competition going, try to simulate as we go along in this all season process of how the games are going to be. Hey, what's the work? Hey, Terry, John. Hey, how are you doing? Good to see you again. Good to see you too.

1:07:54Yeah, I think Coach Quinn has really assembled a very unique group of coaches. There's multiple head coaches. There's multiple coordinators that have come from different places. And so you have guys who have a lot of football experience, some have played, some have coached in big games. And then you bring in the talent that we have defensively and offensively. And I just think you can feel the unity and the sameness and the message that he's trying to preach to our team. And we're going to be tough and we're going to be competitive. But we're also going to have fun. And like I think he said in your guys interview, he said he likes to do hard shit with good people. So I think that's fun. A guy like me likes to put my nose down and grind and work. So I know him and I are going to continue to hit it off. And it's just my job to help bring other guys along with me. Thank you, Lord. Very good. Look like sitting here next step as a vocal leader.

1:09:00I think for me, I've grown a lot in my vocal leadership. I think I try to always find the balance of when to say something. When I to say something, I think I never want. I always wanted to be a person when I say something and mean something. Like you don't want to be, you're giving all the motivational speeches, but you're not backing up with your play or you're talking so much, your message gets drowned out. And so it's kind of continuing to find that balance of when to say things and when to kind of just take a step back. But I think I've gotten a really good fill of how to do that. I think obviously with a new coaching staff, you just try to understand how they want things done and you try to bring what you do well into that. And you also try to encourage the guys who haven't taken those steps in their career to do that as well. So I think for me is just really starting in my position group. I think we have a still a very young group, kind of inexperienced for the most part, but I think we have a lot of talent in there. And it's just my job and Bobby's job to continue to bring that group along as we go throughout this season.

1:10:12I guess this obviously will allow a turnover worth in your playing for a milestone. Personally, you're a first to South Sydney, somewhere you need to be come in. Yeah, I hit it really hard this off season. So I kind of started training a little bit after the Super Bowl. So I got a good six to eight weeks in to where I feel football ready right now, which is great for me because you know, obviously we're probably having a mini camp at the end of this month. So that'll be, I'm already in football shape. So that's exciting to know that I'm ready to be able to run routes and get going with our quarterbacks and get going with our system. So you know, as this off season goes on, I just trust the plan that Chad and the guys have here. I want to be here for all the workouts and things like that and be a part of the team building. And I just continue to learn the playbook as we start to install things and be at a point where I could go out there and be confident in my game what I've worked on this off season and put that into how that fits into this off. And so I always try to pride myself on knowing multiple positions just to have be flexible for the team and be flexible myself. So I'll be ready for

1:11:16whatever they wherever they put me. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You never, well, I'm not saying never, but it's always tough seeing like some of you build a really good relationship with, go on and move on in their career. And especially your quarterback, because as a receiver, you want to continue to try to build that chemistry. You know, I mean, that was only our first year playing with one another. And I feel like him and I had our, we made some great plays. And we had some room for growth. And I think that comes with any new quarterback receiver relationship. And so, but to see him go in a situation where we'll have a chance to compete and play under a really good quarterback in Geno. And I think he'll, he'll really like playing with receivers like, well, throwing the receivers like lock it in, and, and Jackson Smith and Jigba and DK, you know what I mean? So I think he's going in a situation where we have a chance to continue to show that he can play

1:12:18quarterback at a high level in the sleeve, which I still truly believe. And we know this is a business. And, you know, I think hopefully things work out for both sides. But I always have a lot of respect for Sam how he handled things good and bad last year. And, you know, I think he took a really big step in his career to continue to prove that he can play at a high level. The ocean delights us. Some marvel at the colorful world below the surface. The ocean feeds us. Others find nourishment and it's bounty. The ocean teaches us how our everyday choices impact even the deepest places. The ocean moves us. Whether we're riding a wave or soaking in its breathtaking beauty. The ocean connects us. Find your connection at monoraybeacquarium.org slash connects. Calci's own CEO says it himself. And yes, two thirds of people on Calci lose money. So what does it take to be in the other third? You have to do extensive amount of research to be good.

1:13:18There are people that spend copious amount of money, time, resources, energy. They've dedicated their lives to basically becoming good at it. All that and still. And yes, two thirds of people on Calci lose money. That's Calci in their own CEOs words. Go to www.fairpredics.com to learn more. Thank you guys. Good to see you. Charlie, you done? Yeah, that's it for today, man. Yeah, that's it. We're done. To get that call from Coach County, I made my day. I was so excited and my family was excited.

1:14:18We're just so glad to be here and still water and to be here at Oakland State. Yeah, so compare, or not more, Captain Kansas, to still water. What's that trend? It's been great. I tell you, there's probably a little more similar similarities than there are differences. You know, both really good college towns, both great fan bases. You know, not big, not, you know, just great college towns. So, you know, the people are awesome here and, you know, I'm just excited to be here. It's a beautiful place. I'm really enjoying. Yeah, Coach, and give us some of the names that haven't really been talked about enough on the offensive line in your group that you think should be talked about more. So the young names. Well, I mean, they're all worthy of being mentioned. I think they're all working really hard. They're all really good good kids. You know, the guys that stand out to me right now,

1:15:24I mean, in terms of just guys that have shown great leadership, the Marcus Keyes and Johnny Wilson. I mean, I really appreciated their leadership and how they've handled themselves, because they've been here the longest and they've had to go through, you know, a couple off at the 90 coaches, you know, and I know it's the transition has been hard, but they've been awesome. You know, great leaders and just have done a really nice job in that regard. Some of the younger kids, I talked about, you know, Bryce Bray, you know, he's a lecturer freshman, but he's been competing at that left tackle spot. He was starting for his left tackle this whole spring. So going into the fall, he's going to be competing with Dylan, Galway, because Dylan started some, I think he like started six games last year. So that'll be a nice little battle. You know, Jacob Farrell, I'm very impressed with him. You know, I've been impressed with Hunter Wooders, you know,

1:16:26in terms of his toughness and how he's his work ethic. So, but there's a lot of good young guys that have been working really hard, you know, Hunter Anthony and Tyrese Williams, I'm excited about those guys as well. I've got a good young class today. You sure do coach, thank you. Thank you for your time today and we're very welcome. Thank you. Thank you. So you were coaching under Bill Snyder for forever. Yeah, you could probably write a book about what you learned, but maybe in the synopsis where did you learn from Snyder coaching under him? Jeez, well, I mean, just, you know, trying to get better every day, you know, and never be satisfied. And, you know, he was very demanding, you know, very demanding on his players, he's demanding on his coaches. You know, he just, very competitive, you know, and I've said this before, there's a lot

1:17:35of similarities between these two programs and maybe the personalities are different, but, you know, but, but, but, but, you know, when I first, first day, I got here, first day, our first staff and coach Connie talked about, about us being a more tougher, more physical, more disciplined for all team. And that's all coach Snyder would talk, you know, those are the things he would talk about, you know, and just having us being, being being, being the toughest, most disciplined team out there. And, and that's, you know, so it's like, it was like, we're here in the same thing. And so, and that's what we're stressing and that's what we want to be. And that's what we're trying to be, this year, we hear at Oklahoma State. Well, some of, some of them, these best teams, especially early on, and asked them, yeah, if it's a line they got away from that, or that maybe someone could, but how do they get back to being like that physical? Well, yeah, I think we got to, I mean, I, we got to be demanding on them and we got to, we got to install the toughness and continue

1:18:38to, and still the toughness, continue to instill discipline and, and, and just not be satisfied, you know, and, and, and just be demanding on them. What is it being called, still, and not being well-known? Well, I mean, I just, I just want us to get better every day. And I want us to, my goal, again, is for us to, to, to be tougher and to be more physical and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and to be, and to be, and to be more disciplined, you know, and, and, and, and really focus on those, focus on those attributes. And, and I know if we do, you know, that that will carry over to us being successful in the field. Yeah. It's, being, being such a veteran. How have you seen social media pack of recruiting? Well, it's, it's impacted quite a bit. Yeah, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's very interesting, you know, and it's, it's, it's taking me, you know, I got to, you know, while I get used to all of it. I'm not saying I'm great on it, but you're on the Twitter. Yeah, but I'm on Twitter and all that

1:19:41good stuff and so, so, you know, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's been, it's been fine. It's been, it's been, but it is, it is, it is having an impact on, on, on, on, on, on recruiting, that's for sure. Yeah. The differences between these styles of offense and we can explain to them, is the most spread out. How does that affect you here? Well, that's a great question. I mean, that was probably the biggest transition. For me was was just, and one of the most exciting things for me was being able to be a part of this offense because Coach Gundy's offices have been the best, some of the best in the country, period. I mean, they've been awesome. So I wanted to be a part of it, but with that, it was, you know, it can't just stay, we were, we were, you know, ground and pound and we were a lot of quarter back running, and some, you know, and, and, but also just taking as much time off the clock as we could so we could keep the, keep the ball away from other defenses, you know, for other,

1:20:43other, other, other offices. And so just slowing down and that type of stuff. So here was planned fast and getting guys to just teach them my guys to, you know, to get up and make the calls and get the points and that was different. And so, but that's kind of where I was, where I was going to, where I was, you know, where I was, hey, I just being able to, to, to resource Johnny and Marcus, hey, you know, how'd you guys do that? You know, what, what were some of the things, you know, and Jason Meckendood was really helpful with that as well, you know. So, but it's been a great transition, been a great transition. How does your job in a needle with Sean Larson, depending upon who wins the quarterback job? One may even work more than the other, what is that kind of working relationship like? What's been great with Sean? Sean's awesome. I mean, I've said Sean's got a, he's got a vision. He knows where he, what he wants and he's very passionate. He's a very intense, very detailed and, and so, you know, he knows, he knows exactly where he wants this offense

1:21:48to go and so I'm really excited. I'm really excited to get a chance to work with him and the whole offensive staff has been awesome, you know, Waz and, and Casey and, and Matt had all been, been great. So it's really good. Touch Gundy talked in the past about trying to, or, of course, if you can't, to state before, obviously, this time, but, or those pitches like in those conversations that I did with them at those times. Well, I mean, it was great. Coach Gundy's, you know, he's, he was awesome. And so it just circumstances just, for whatever reasons, just didn't allow me to, to be able to, to do it, but, but, but I'm just grateful now for this opportunity. I'm, I'm just grateful he gave me a call. I'm just, that's one thing I am very, grateful for. I'm very, very thankful for that he, you know, he gave me that call. So I'm very, really excited to be here. It's about that. It's the last year, then like, we think back to the whole reward, so last year, what has the last kind of year been like for you, was

1:22:55where it was kind of all the process to, I was definitely chasing back, because I was always, my sophomore year, I was hurt, and my junior, I got hurt during drag, so I was able to, like, I was a highly fluttered athlete, and this time last year's like where my recruitment really picked up. And it's just like, it's been crazy, like, must have another, like, people just leaving me, in my corner, my coach is empty, I just give it the motivation to go. That's a big good, before I even got a hosting offer, and before I even knew he was exactly, actually threw it with him a couple of times in the belt, Bella Fletz, Trotte, yeah, I was working with, I knew his head coach, and he invited me to come and run

1:23:55routes, and I actually ran routes for a TAV in the right, if we was exactly at a like, we first came to New York, we had a lot more, we got got together, hustled freshman class, and he's working on anything, he's definitely got nice on. This cornerback for the years, I think it was pretty tough, how much is that, and I hope you were all here with the freshmen. The cornerback? The cornerback. Yeah, yeah, yeah, they're definitely talented, and I always say, I just hope you're doing it, and they make it hard for you, and when you play this high level competition practice, you go on a game, you're like, why is this easier than the practice, and he's really spills on himself. Is there been a moment in question? I was just thinking about it all the time, oh wow, this is so different, this is so different, I guess like a walk from a hospital. I guess there have been kind of like a moment first, kind of realized, oh wow, these guys are really good at the cycle of their big game. Yeah, just like, I just first, like on high school, I just take some like reps and

1:24:59FC, we just go, yeah, I just had speed, I had catching abilities, like face separation, and I come to college, and go, everybody's fast, everybody's big, so you have fun, new ways to get open, just really good, push yourself to hire your IQ. You can tap everything, because like Coach Dayson, you guys are just first day you show up, you're really good. Yeah, I think that leading are you doing the little things, what's that like? I think that's, when you're at a big time program, I think I stay, I think everyone's judge, you know, everything you do is important, how you hire Locker looks is important, all the small details. How do you handle all good? I'm calling you basically the air parent, I mean a lot of people think you're going to be the guy, what do you think you have to prove over the next several weeks, and then prove season? Yeah, I don't, I always say the outside noise, I'm just focused on getting better every day, you know, getting ready for Friday's practice, I'm just, I'm pretty out practice today. I was going to kind of ask the same question, and then how do you handle that, like having

1:26:00that really people here to watch a practice, or you know, being or walking around in Columbus, when you know that the quarterback's probably the most judge position, maybe in all of college football. You know, I think, how I guess I before, I'm really just focused on the fundamentals, and improving every day, and just get better, you know, taking what Coach Day, Coach Mac, Coach Ressler, bringing us to the court. Yeah, I think this winner, I've gained a little bit of weight, got stronger, so that was a big point, I was just in the winner, and I really just, you know, focusing on just getting bigger and stronger. I've known it's about, I gained about 10 pounds, so I'm sick. I feel, I feel good now, just, you know, being a little bit heavier, it was good, it was big, big thanks to Coach Mac, and it's all so good. What do you think of being the starting quarterback, I don't know, I don't think, what does that look like to be?

1:27:04What does that mean? Yeah, it's definitely, definitely the goal, but we're so long as we've just get, yeah, 15 kind of season, just get that. What should that person look like? Yeah, I think, you know, the type of sky, first guy in, last guy out, kind of like everyone says, and, you know, being that later in the offense. What were you able to do last year? What's that I was with you last year about, you know, Billy Fessler, what he was able to do with the quarterbacks, and how much did you specifically get to work with them? Yeah, he had so much impact on our quarterback room last year. Him and Coach Kelly both did a great job with us, and I was really appreciative of those guys. Just, we're, we work closely with the Coach Fessler, and I was happy to see him get on. How much different do you feel to talk about putting on the way, if we talk to you in your go-to practice, you can just get in here and come from Alabama? How much different a year later do you feel in this program as a quarterback, all of a sudden? Yeah, I think when you, when I first got here, I was still learning how everything works and learning what you're doing. And now I think I know what I would know what I'm doing, within the plays or within how the program works,

1:28:07so I think it's a, it's been good to just get adjusted, but still, still trying to improve. And when you talk about, talk this guy, first one in the last one or the other, there's two other guys that are trying to do that. How do you be that guy when two other guys know that that's what they're doing, so we're trying to do that job? Yeah, I think it's, our room is very competitive, but we're also very close. It's only three, it's only three guys in our room, so I think it's, it's important for us to just be close, but also better. I think you need to be able to watch. Go ahead. Yeah, we're good. Watching you through one of the biggest things that stands out, I think it's how quick your release is, still on my screen. How did you develop that quick motion? I think I've naturally had a kind of a quick release, not kind of out of high school, I was always, I was just kind of had a quick release and I've been trying to get a quicker. I think the watch will end up getting to the battle last year. What did you learn from that? Well, maybe you and Lincoln had to take it, but I understand that it's competition,

1:29:07trying to get each other better for the team. Yeah, I think Will and Devon had a great friendship, but they were all sparing competitive. So I think it was, it was definitely good to see and that's something that we had in our room this year. I just want to show the toughest guy when nobody can touch your friends. I think there's a lot of ways to show toughness and support about it. I think, you know, taking mental reps, you know, finishing out plays, bursting through the line, I think all those control toughness. Just like you. You know, we spent a lot of hours here, we're, you know, watching tapes, getting ready to practice, so we spent a lot of time. You have a couple of, I'm going to get it to Lincoln. I'm going to stay with my team. I wouldn't say that. I think we all, the whole core record is held to a standard and we all are, you know, together in this tournament, beyond time and show up early. Just how it was a little bit easier for me, like I've said, just a familiarity with the facility and the people and the coaches. So the rest of the society built and they kind of understand how I learned and how I operate in my mind.

1:30:09So they've been able to coach me and adapt to how I learned and teach for my things. Is that, is your top possession of war, practice field or in the classroom? You know, it's the biggest thing that I've tried to focus on is translating everything from those meeting rooms to the field as quickly as I can. Just picking up on every quick note that I can, any advantage I can get, you know, on my opponent, I want to have that advantage. And so I learned everything in the meeting and trying to understand this and it's the field that's possible. So it's like a generation of each being. How do you do that? What's different about that? Yeah, coach, coach Fester and coach CK, our assistant quarterback coach and other quarterbacks in Tana. So it gets together like every night. I walk through as well. Whether that's just me, Toman, and having a little meeting with Coach Fester before workouts or after workouts. There's something going on every single day, just to build my development and really give me, like I said in that manage, I'm just trying to learn everything I can and be the best coach of the player and personal from me.

1:31:12Coach, they said, quarterbacks together as well as how, where are you on that side? Yeah, really, like I said, just learning everything. I got to understand why we're doing the things we're doing and what we are trying to do with it and how we're going to do it and how we're going to accomplish it. You know, that's still a learning thing for me. This starts second practice. I really just want to get better and amplify it and make it better so that I'm fine as practice. I'm going to put some of this in place like taking a snap under somebody and do a lot of things. Sir. 5 star, a whole third of the country. You get to hear those just with new things like that. Is it complete? Is it eye opening? Is it scary? Is that feeling? Yeah, definitely very opening for me just because I didn't. I think coming from the place that I came from, like you said, not doing under-center things like that. There's little intricate details even to just taking a snap under-center that I never knew were there because I never done it. So learning that stuff and you know, fine tuning everything that has to be, that has to go into being a great quarterback.

1:32:18And it was definitely very eye opening. The first day I got here, I was so challenged that I didn't get on the first day of the year. So it's all the same working as you do. You don't feel comfortable working with that. You're having a good time. Versus the things you want me to do. Yeah, really just, you know, I think getting better every day, that's the main focus. Just trying to develop everything with that. You get better at everything that I can. You get better later for the team, you get better teammate, you get better person outside of practice. That's really been the main development. We'll see where it takes me throughout the spring. But just trying to get better at everything that I develop. And that's the main focus. And now for two minutes, I'm going to see four weeks of the playoff. You're watching left and left and this is a close-up. And I'm going to have to focus two hundred. It's a great job to follow. The better leadership that you have for your team and the close relationships that you have, the longer it will take you. With him, I saw just nobody hated, but nobody dislikes the everybody loved. Well, he was comfortable talking to anybody. I mean, that's something I'm going to carry with me just trying to be familiar with everybody.

1:33:20Know everybody. Know everything about them. That's really been the main focus. It's been a relationship with people that I don't really want to talk to. And I'm really just trying to build that chemistry around the team. It's been the main focus. Yeah, I think the first time that I had taken a snack with my offense on the field, my group of offense on the field, it was like, this is actually happening now. And it's not just a dream that I'm trying to make happen. It was a dream that I'm living now. And so, you know, I just take every opportunity I can. Bless to be here. I love it here. I'm not a good person for the world. So, I'm pretty sure it's going to take a few days. Great. Really just, like I said, you're better every single day than you guys in the room. Or really the best in the country. So you just got to compete every day. I don't know how to say that's what it breeds. So, competitions, what we talk, and that's what we do. So, I'm really just getting better every day. That's been all of our focuses. I'm going to try to work. Amen.

1:34:21I was curious how you assess Texas offense. And they've had their struggles in the running game. So they look like a team that's kind of pass heavy and leads into the past first. And how would you evaluate that part of their game? I mean, you can say, as you say, they struggle the past few games of the running game. But I think they got a super explosive running game. If you watch the Clemson game, I think they put up almost a 20-50 Russian or something like that. I think they're a team that's capable of putting up around 50 points if you let them. So, I mean, we're deep in the shoulder ready to play. It's in an extremely talented offense on all three levels. I think the quarterbacks are great players. The running backs are very, very explosive. She was very explosive. They've got great tie-down and great online. So they're well-rounded offense. And you guys are big favorites in the game. But do you worry at all about, you know, overconfidence or complacency? Just because the way you all have dominated the opposition so far? No, I don't think anything outside knows matters. I think there's things that you said about it before. We won those two games and now they're thinking set up about us after we won those two games and those things might be different.

1:35:22And it really doesn't matter to us. We're just focused on the opinion inside the witty. And we know we've got to bear an egg in every single week. I mean, it's a really good team. It doesn't matter how it beat the last two teams. This is a whole completely different team. Thank you. Sorry. That's all our questions on Zoom. All right. We'll go back to the local level here. Phil Rebenoins, Columbus Dispatch. I mean, you guys travel. Your fans travel very well. But obviously this game is in Dallas. Do you guys kind of thrive and like the playing front of hostile crowds? Uh, I think guys kind of like going in an enemy territory sometimes. You know, it feels good being a little bit of the villain you could say. But uh, yeah, I mean, obviously you got to take the fact that it isn't in Texas. So it could be a lot of environment. It could be like an away environment. We obviously know that. But I mean, that's right. Where you put the ball down. We're just going to come show up and play. And I think there's a staff that you guys, your opponents have not been called for a holding call

1:36:23since September or something like that. Is that something that you guys are aware of? And do you guys point out on the film? Anything called out? Or maybe call that one? Yeah, we're aware of this. We don't pay attention to too much. So you guys just play. You know, we've got too much to say about that. You got to just play through and just let your talent take over. Don't let it come down to a ref decision. Over here to the right, Austin Ward, the podcast. Something that didn't feel like against Oregon that you guys had to blitz as much as you had doing. Maybe some other games in the second half of the season. Why is that? What does it allow the linebackers to do when you don't have that responsibility? What made that a successful approach on Wednesday? Yeah, I think when you got as talented as guys, we do the front with those four guys up front. I mean, a four-man pressure is feeling like a six-man pressure to the quarterback. So you're able to drop out and be able to drop everyone else in the cover. So it makes a lot easier on our defense when the defensive line is just taking over like that. I mean, it's tough for an offense to do anything.

1:37:23We got four-man rush, feel like a zero coming at you. And then you got everyone dropping into the cover. It's kind of just shelt over the field. So I mean, it definitely makes the defense a lot easier for everyone else when the defense line is playing like that. Jim Nolz had talked about this a little with having so many veteran players that you could make different game plans. You don't have to just be pigeonholed into one thing. We got to weak. Does it feel when you get in there and you guys start game planning? Like, they are very different for every opponent for you guys at this point? I don't know if I would say that. I think they keep it simple enough where guys aren't like confused when we're doing. I mean, it might look like that for like the quarterback. Like, we might be giving different looks and things like that. But I don't think it's over complicated at all. But I mean, that might just be because we got a veteran defense as well. So it could be a little bit biased. But that's kind of the way it feels. It doesn't feel over the complicated when I got. I'm going to Joey Coppen, Columbus, this back.

1:38:25Sonny, how do you think it's helped you guys to have the Caleb Downs, Jack Dan Moore to the Barx, late in the season, I've been doing that. It seems like more, how does it help you guys? I think both our safeties have done a really good job, dropping down in the box again, coming down fast and running support. I think when you see guys coming from 12 yards and they're making tackles for two yards games, it's all that's pretty impressive. I mean, you saw Latham's last game come from the weak side, Boundary Hash, about 10, 12 yards. You come down and hit the dude at two yards and then, Columbus knock him out. Both our safeties are super impressive in the run game. So it definitely makes it the health of the defense, usually when you're dropping the safety in, usually those four yard runs, five yard runs, and where they're stopping for two yard runs, no yard runs. So it's super impressive and it helps the defense out a lot. We'll go to Jeremy Birmingham, the podcast. Sonny, how much does the defense structure really changed since the organization, or if it's more of an awesome time, about you guys just being more veteran and knowing the defense better,

1:39:28as there have been fundamental changes that have been made, because it looks a lot different. Yeah, I mean, I think there's been some changes, but I think a lot of it's been a mentality of trying to be a speed more aggressive, that we're just trying to, it's having an aggressive mindset. I think you've seen that when it shows up on tape, with the pressures, the TFLs, and things like that. I think we've gotten a lot better since the beginning of the year, and we've kind of improved on the issues that have shown up each week, because the issues are always there, and I think we've improved on those really well, and obviously looked like a completely different team now. You've got a different aggressiveness from the coaching staff, since then, not just your coach knows individual position coaches like coach Ornights, but even from my day, like, is he been a different type of leader? I think he's been a great leader the whole year. I think after that team on Norfolk, we kind of hunkered down and say like, hey, we're going to get up, and we're going to start swinging, and we're going to keep swinging as hard as we can,

1:40:28and see what happens at the end of the game. And I think that's what we've been doing the past two games, and it's worked out pretty well. Now, next to McWalker, Letterman Row. So, you mentioned a great kind of thing earlier. What stands out to you about Gunner and Helm, and how do you kind of take out a guy that's such a focal point for all of us? I think he runs a great route, so he has good hands. I think they set up some really nice plays for him. You see some of those plays where he kind of sneaks out of the protection, and comes out wide open. I think the biggest thing that stands out is probably the routes in the hands. He's super impressive for a tie down. You know, obviously, he always been where he's out on the field, and he's going to be going to be some explosive play set up for him. Any other questions here? Absolutely. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, Tim May, Letterman Row. I'm sorry. Good minute eruption, Jerry. When you were in a nutshell, how would you describe him to someone? Because he seems even more effective when he kind of gets out of the pocket or moves around. So, what do you see when you think of him?

1:41:32I would say the capability of like early on the game, now him getting his routine, like some of those routine throws, routine throws, they run the ball, and it's play action shot. 50 yards down field, and it's like that. I think he's a super good job with that. Being able to sell the play action, pull the safeties up, and then hit you down field with a 60 yard bomb, and like that. So, I think that's the biggest thing that stands out to me on film. He's a super talented quarterback, super talented arm talent. He can get the ball out in many different ways. But, yeah, that's probably how I put it in the nutshell. He's just super talented player. He can make any throw on the field. Like he said, he can move around a little bit. I don't think people respect that enough, his legs, he can move around, and extend the plays, and hurt you down field. Did he really add the guy he used to be in this building, at least for four or five months? I wasn't really here with him, but, I don't think it's really odd. You play some former players before, but obviously he's a talented player. I think a lot of guys have a lot of respect for him, so it's just somebody a good match. I'm excited for it. We'll go to Bill Rebellion, it's Columbus Dispatch.

1:42:32Adam, the win will talk to you next. I'll ask you now. I'm sure it's the last thing you're going to buy, and we'll talk about it. Do you have any idea what you're going to do about next year? I mean, obviously, you can go to the NFL. Do you have any thoughts on that right now? No, I haven't thought about it at all. Just worry about winning. Scotty, that's it from Columbus for sunny styles, any more on your end? No more on our end. Thank you, sunny. That's great, you know. In this game, we knew we needed to be physical, play downhill football, and go out of them. And I think our O-line took that challenge and ran with it, man. The Ocean delights us as playful orders restore coastal kill for us. The Ocean teaches us how our choices impact even the deepest places. The Ocean connects us. Visit monoraybayacquarium.org slash connects. CalShe's own CEO says it himself. And yes, two-thirds of people on CalShe lose money. So what does it take to be in the other third? You have to do extensive amount of research to be good.

1:43:33There are people that spend the copious amount of money, time, resources, energy. They've dedicated their lives to basically becoming good at it. All that and still. And yes, two-thirds of people on CalShe lose money. That's CalShe in their own CEOs' words. Go to www.fairpredics.com to learn more. Those dudes are bad SOBs, man. And they're coming downhill and just rocking people off the ball. And I think they're playing really, really good football right now. They're just continuing to get better every single week. I think they played really well last week. I think they played really, I haven't watched the film yet, but I think they played really, really well this week. Love you. Who is that? Love you, mech. But the overall, man, those guys are playing their butts off. And then, you know, I mean, you let Q and Trey do the rest. And we say we want to have our O-line get to, and our backs get to every single play. And I think our O-lines get in us for, and our backs can get us 60 plus. So I mean, it's good.

1:44:35And our O-lines playing at a really, really high level right now. And across the board, I'm really proud of those guys. Noah Weiskov, the Lantern. After that first half, what was the message to the team in the locker room? I mean, I wouldn't say anything was really different, man. It was, we just came out and we said, you know, it's a new half. And, you know, every, we always put the emphasis on that middle eight, you know, and ending the first half the right way and starting the second half the right way. And we didn't, we did not execute the middle half in the first half, but coming out of the half time, going down, getting to score, you know, getting a couple turnovers, like that was huge. And that was, you know, our emphasis was like, we've got to come out and start fast. We've got to go down, get to score. You know, we deferred, so we get the ball first. And then we got to come out and get some stops. And I mean, the defense played an unbelievable game today. When you got to defense, it's going to shut them down like they did. I mean, it's hard not to win a lot of games. Andy Backstrom, Letterman Rowe. I was about earlier this year, there's Open,

1:45:36and then there's Ohio State Open. How much of that factor in the Red Zone with a Mecca and just where you at with kind of adopting that? Yeah, absolutely, man. It's, it 101, you know, is, they're open. And I've said that, and, you know, I have all the trust in the world and those guys, and I've seen them do it in practice. You know, it makes my job easy when I can, when I can throw a ball that, a Mecca on that corner route, that last touch on that, that we had, wasn't a great throw, honestly. You know, we, we, we practiced that play on the hash mark, you know, where I had a little more time to throw that, and, you know, we have it in the right middle, so it's a little more off the hash. We got to be a little quicker with it, and I left it a little inside, and Mecca made a great play. And, you know, it's just like things like that, just giving guys chances. I mean, in JJ, like, that one-handed catch is, I mean, it's stupid. Like, it's, it's, you know, you just let them, let them go make plays, man, and, and it's, and it's fun to watch. It's, it's easy, and, you know, it makes, makes my job, makes my job pretty nice. Over to the right, James Watkins, Cleveland.com. What are you playing big games before? And, which means you played in games before,

1:46:36big games before, trap games, something to say. What do you think you learned about a team in these kind of moments? And what have you learned today? Yeah, we, we said this coming into this game, you know, we were going to learn about this, we were going to learn a lot about this team, and our toughness, and our, you know, our ability to, you know, block out the noise and go down and get to work. And, you know, we knew we had a big one coming up this week, but we knew that this was a big one too. And I think our ability to just come out there and play some smash-and-match football a little bit. You know, I think we started well. You know, the first quarter, we only had one drive. It was 14 plays, and we went down and scored. And, you know, the second quarter, you know, just, you know, two turnovers, a turnover on downs. You know, we beat ourselves, you know, it's, it's never, you know, the other team beating us is us beating ourselves, but, you know, it's all about how you respond, and we came back, and we did a great job. So, you know, I'm proud of the way that we played, but, you know, we got a big one coming up next week, so I'm excited. If we can start to wrap up with Donovan Jackson in the back, please, and we got two more questions for Will Howard up front. Bill Rabinovitz, Columbus Dispatch. Everyone is pointing to this morning game all season.

1:47:37I was out to test. How well prepared are you guys? How do you feel going into that game with all the states? I think confidence-wise, we feel great. You know, we've, we've continued to iron things out and get better every single week. And I think that's true. I think we've learned a lot about ourselves and about this team. You know, I think going into this game, you know, we know that it's a big one, and, you know, I haven't really looked at it yet. We knew that this Iowa team was going to be a good team. So, I mean, you know, I looked at it a little bit, and, you know, on the by-week, and I started checking them out, and seeing, you know, what they're about, and, you know, I'm excited, man. It's going to be, it's going to be a good challenge, you know, playing against Dylan a couple times. He's a great player. You know, their defense is good. You know, I know Dan Koch landing is a, you know, a good coach, and he's going to have them ready. So, I'm excited to get home now, and start watching some film and get ready for these guys. And final questions for Will, Tim May, Letterman, and Role. Yeah, just real quick. Well, the way the first half ended for you is, you know, my vlog going, hey, I'm better than that. I mean, you know what I mean? Absolutely. You just get straightened out, I guess, at halftime.

1:48:38And then, number two, someone will get another question. You and Dylan Gable, you know, two guys from the big play, I'm not going against the show, and big, big pinch show, yeah. Just, what does that mean to you? Yeah, man, it'll be fun. You know, going into the, going into halftime, yeah, I was, uh... Your connection at monoraybeacquarium.org slash connects. So, what does it take to be in the other third? You have to do extensive amount of research to be good. There are people that spend, copious amount of money, time, resources, energy,

1:49:39they've dedicated their lives to basically becoming good at it. All that, and still. And yes, two thirds of people on CalShi lose money. Those money, those money, those money. That's CalShi in their own CEOs' words. Go to www.fairpredics.com to learn more. I was, yeah, I was, I was pissed at myself, you know, because I feel like it's uncharacteristic, you know, putting the ball in harm's way like that. You know, I want to be safe with the ball in my decision making. I like to hang my hat on that, and, you know, it's just like... But at the end of the day, man, like, you just got to flush it and move on. You can't dwell on it too long in the moment. You know, we'll go back right now, and I'll go watch the film, and you know, be critical as critical as possible, and say, you know, can't do this. You know, it got to be better. But in the moment, like, it's very, very, very important to just move on and brush it off. And then, yeah, going in and next week, you know, with Dylan, man, I actually, in 2022, we played at Oklahoma, and I was ageing with Still Plan, so I never actually have got to play against Dylan. But I know him. He's a good dude, man.

1:50:40And, you know, I got one of my, one of my boys from, from K-State, one of their safes, so, excited to go out there. It's gonna be a fun game, man. Well, thank you very much. Thank you, all, Go Books. You know, Go Up, You Get A Ball, so it's fun to play with guys like that, and, you know, just opens up the offense as I heard, too. So, it's a lot of fun. What's the, what's the answer to the struggles and the right to them, the first off? Yeah, I think we just need to clean up some little things, I mean, it's one of two things every time, so we definitely got to figure that out and clean it up as we go. Next time, we talk about the talent, but you guys had an omniscience. And when you have those red zone struggles, how do you think? Yeah, I see them. Down there, no name, how do you challenge talent? Yeah, you know, you're a bit of a bum. Yeah, I mean, he's got to stay steady. I mean, we know what we're capable of, and we're very self-suffering. You know, we're still confident about what we can do, and we stay confident. So, first day, as, first day, as Coach Day has talked about, you know, the versatility he wants to see, well, over the field, but especially with the tight ends, just how fun has it been? What's the light-beam part of the knock-ins that, you know, ask you to do, so many different things, have so many different formations and things like that?

1:51:41Yeah, no, it's fun. I mean, growing in and out of those guys is a lot of fun. Um, as my friends, it's fun. So, it's been fun to do a lot of different things, and it's a lot of new things that, you know, I'm adjusting to, and I've been doing a lot better. So, I'm excited about that. When you're steady, you're like, you're like, you're not comfortable with all the things that you're thinking. Yeah, I think I've become a lot better. I mean, the loneliness is got to be today. RB fans and some real deep stuff. You have no option but to live there. So, it's been fun. When you're out there, Oh, yeah, I mean, we have this four games stretch kind of stuff. We have a lot of requirements to make, and I think we're excited about that. It's really good. After this five weeks. Well, for you, what's the biggest lesson? Biggest lesson? Or, say, stay, stay, stay, you're in the queue. Don't get to die. Don't get to go. I mean, there's gonna be ups and downs, but you gotta stay, you gotta stay. When you're out there with JJ, does it amazing you some of the things that he does? Yeah, I mean, you see that every day, in fact, it's time. So, honestly, now I see it.

1:52:41It doesn't really amazing as much, because you see it every day. So, yeah, you see the special talent. You have a chance in certain plays, we get to do that. And then, allowing certain guys in certain blitzes to really mess up the, with a quarterback is thinking. So, it allows us to have more pressure and be able to allow us to do more moves at the time, because it makes it all fun and it's confused. And what we're doing, so about allowing putting blitzes in there, it really mixes up the patch first for us. And allows us to get sad. Tim May, letterman Ro. Yeah, with that said, like, for example, S-39 against E.M. Allieva. Yeah, I said it right. I think. But, he was quite elusive in stuff. Was that a good, I don't know, prep for this week? I mean, because Dylan gave us a little bit different scrambler, but he still gets the job done. Oh, yeah, that was definitely a good to have, because like I said, all the quarterbacks were very mobile. And being, if you want to have more experience versus mobile quarterbacks, helps us, obviously, you know, just help us home and learn from our, where we have, and how to go through the hole and how to scrambles, where we can learn from those scrambles. And we go from that game and the past game we played against the organ, just learning the quarterbacks tendencies. And when they like to run, the way they like to run,

1:53:42everybody helps us out, really closing the cage and placing the pocket ball. Is there a fine line between being aggressive, but also being wary? This guy can slip away. You're saying what I'm saying, Tommy? Yeah. You can't just go right at him. I mean, go ahead, I'm sorry. Yeah, he's definitely a quarterback, and then gets out of gas out of the pocket. So, I mean, he's definitely a threat. And he's a main guy in all the things he runs the show. So, I mean, being able to stop him and contain him really slows the offense down. So, being able to cage the pocket and be able to slow him down and make him make more decisions on the run and moving around, it really helps us. Go ahead, just have one more, him, I'm sorry. Well, no, I didn't want to ask about their center. Their center, what I impressed with you with him, the last time you guys played, he seemed to have a pretty good game, you know, and he's kind of a tough guy to move out of there. And stuff that he looks like. I mean, what's your impression of him? He's definitely one of the better centers in the conference, I mean, he's a really good guy. I mean, being able to be there and there and be there, the size and being able to move the way he can, it's really hard to get around him at times, but he's definitely having the game plan and working against him,

1:54:43working to tend to see that he hasn't been able to work against that. It really helps us, helps me. Yeah. You've got a lot of things. You've got the real middle, Steven Leonard, college football, college. Yeah, kind of piggybacking on that. How much of it was there, offensive line, being a strength that our team versus Dylan Gabriel being able to escape and the lack of pressures that we had on our defense? Yeah, I mean, when you got a good offensive line, it makes it even better for a quarterback, you know, being able to roll out to know that your line was going to help you protect you when you're in the pocket, so it makes it easier for throws. And it makes it harder for us, honestly, for having a good offensive line. So I mean, like I said before, just being able to attack the offensive line, attack the weaknesses and be able to go after it, and make it harder for the quarterback, and he's harder for them or rural. Uh, for the right, Andrew Gillick, believe in Doc Brown. What's the challenge similar to Tim's question? And you know, when you play a team like this that runs the level of RPOs that they do that runs the way. So how do you stay true and be aggressive and force the issue where, you know, Dylan Gabriel is really good at making those grades? Oh, yeah. Like I said, just putting pressure on him, I mean, do you still get it back there?

1:55:43I mean, we got a lot of different plays that can help us get back there faster in playing and playing to their tendencies, you know. A lot of times they have the RPO, the RPO helps them out. It means you get the ball out fast. I mean, things like Jackson and JTB, and you get their hands up, knock the ball down, crazy stream them out of pressure for the quarterback when you got hands in your face all times. And final questions, Bill Rebenowitz, Columbus Dispatch? We've asked about Dylan Gabriel and the receivers. They're not one dimensional. They're a good running back in Jordan James. What makes him special and what's the challenge for you guys? I think he's definitely one of the better running backs on the conference of well. I mean, just how hard he runs is it's hard to bring him down at times. So I mean, as a front pro, we probably stop in the run. That's the first thing we're going to do as we go on the game. I mean, past Russian is good and all, but we can't stop the run. I mean, we're going to run the ball there and throw all the time. So all the time we have to figure out how we're going to stop him. How we're going to run the ball and then we're going to take him down. So I mean, it's our job as a front pro to go on there and stop the run. We're going to make him one dimensional as we go out there. So I mean, if you get out there every time I have my mindset,

1:56:44we go out there and we're going to get him. We're not going to allow him to get any yards, allow him to get going. We're going to stop him. We're going to make him throw the ball. Well, JT was up here asked him about how to compare contrast him and Jack. It's personalities. What's your take on that? How different are they as just personalities? I definitely think Jack is more outgoing. I mean, the guy he's like the light that shines around. I mean, everybody goes around him and everybody loves him. He's an outgoing guy. They come to you, shake your hand any time of day. And then JT is more of the blue guy. I mean, a lot of guys gravitate to him. I mean, he just has a bright smile on him all the time. He's just a great guy that people like to be around. I mean, they're two good people, so it's hard to tell. And Ty, I do that one more question for you. Tony Irvin, Bucket Hopper. You guys obviously have faced top play. Did it last week? What's the key for you as a defensive one facing tempo? Oh, yeah. I mean, we've been going through all week in the past two weeks. It's just getting set. I mean, that's the first thing you do. If you're not set, it makes it harder to do your job. So let's be able to get on the ball, get set before they're lined up. And set the ball is one and more important thing.

1:57:45So when we're set, we're able to do our jobs at the efficiency that they can, before they can do theirs. How difficult is that? It could be difficult at times. You know, you got to look to the signline first. You got to get the call. I mean, the call has to be set down first. It can't be difficult at times, but that's the definitely what we've been working on the past three weeks. It's just getting the call, getting the call early, getting set so we can go and be play faster. You never find where you're like, you've chased a play into one side of the field. And now it's lined up. They're going to be heading to the other side. So like, you've got to just run the signline to the sideline just to get the money. Oh, yeah. I mean, that happened a lot last game. It's hard. It's definitely tough. I mean, that's what we work on and practice. Just moving as fast as we can, we're simulating these things so we can get into the game. It's a lot easier. So we moving around side to side, running around, doing extra conditioning just for moments like this. Time. Thank you very much. All right. Thank you. Thanks, John. We want to try to get better every day. And never be satisfied. And you know, he's, he's, he's, he's,

1:58:47he was very demanding, you know, very demanding on his players, he's demanding on his coaches. You know, he just very competitive. And, and I've said this before, there's just, there's a lot of similarities between these two programs. And maybe the personalities are different, but, you know, but, but, but, but, you know, when I first, first day, I got here first day, our first standing coach kind of talked about about us being a more tougher, more physical, more disciplined football team. And that's all coach Snive talked, you know, those are the things he would talk about, you know, and just having us being, being, being, being the toughest, most disciplined team out there. And, and, and that's, you know, so it's like, it was like, we're here in the same thing. And so, and that's what we're stressing. And that's what we want to be. And that's what we're trying to be this year. And so, we hear at Oklahoma State.

1:59:49Well, some of some of them, these best teams, especially early on, they're just nasty. Yeah, it's a line. And they got away from that, I don't know, maybe some of them, but how do they get back to, just being like that physical? Well, yeah, I think we got to, I mean, I, we got to be demanding on them. And we got to, we got to instill the toughness, and continue to instill the toughness, continue to instill discipline. And, and just not be satisfied, you know, and, and, and, and just be demanding on them. What is the beautiful, just going into the ball can? Well, I mean, I just, I just want us to get better every day. And I want us to, my goal, again, is for us to, to, to, to be tougher, and to be more physical, and, and, and, and, and to be, and to be more disciplined, you know, and, and, and really focus on those, focus on those attributes. And I, and I know if we do, we're, that that will carry over to us, being successful in the field.

2:00:50Yeah. It's, being, being such a veteran. How have you seen social media impact? Well, it's, it's impacted quite a bit. Yeah, it's, it's, it's, it's very interesting, you know, and, it's, it's, it's taking me, you know, I got to, you know, wow, to get used to all of it. I'm not saying I'm great on it, but you're on the Twitter. Yeah, but I'm on Twitter and all that good stuff. And so, so, you know, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's been, it's been fine. It's been, it's been, it's been, it's been, it's been, it's been, it's been, it is, it is having an impact on, on, on, on, on, on, on recruiting, that's for sure. Yeah. The differences between these types of style of offends and we can say style of offends, and what's the most spread out? How does that affect the year of James? Well, that's a great question. I mean, that was probably the biggest transition for me was was just, and one of the most exciting things for me was being able to be a part of this offence, because Coach Gundy's offices have been the best, some of the best in the country, period. I mean, it'd been awesome.

2:01:50So, I wanted to be a part of it. But with that, it was, you know, it can't just stay, we were, you know, ground and pound and we were, a lot of quarterback running in some way. And, and, but also just taking as much time off the clock as we could so we could keep the, keep the ball away from other defenses, you know, or for other, other, other, other offices. And so, just slowing down and that type of stuff. So here was playing fast and getting guys to just, teaching my guys to, you know, to get up and make the calls and get the points and that was different. And, and so, but that's kind of where I was, where I was going to, where I was, you know, where hey, I had just been able to, to, to resource Johnny and Marcus, hey, you know, how'd you guys do that? You know, what, what, what was some of the things, you know, and Jason Meckendood was really helpful with that as well, you know, so, but it's been a great transition. Been a great transition. How does your job in a mingle with Sean Lois

2:02:51and the depending upon who wins the quarterback job? One may even work over with another, what is that kind of working relationship like? What's been great with Sean? Sean's awesome. I mean, I've said that Sean's got a, he's got a vision. He knows where he, what he wants and he's very passionate. He's a very intense, very detailed. And, and so, you know, he knows, he knows exactly where he wants his offense to go. And so I'm really excited. I'm really excited to get a chance to work with him. And the whole offense of staff has been awesome, you know, and the loss and in Casey and Matt has all been great. So it's really good. Touch Gundy talked to him fast about trying to recruit you from Kansas State before obviously this time. Well, those pitches like in those conversations that I've given him at those times. Well, I mean, it was great. Coach Gundy's, you know, he's, he was awesome. And so it just circumstances just, for whatever reasons,

2:03:54it didn't allow me to be able to do it. But, but I'm just grateful now for this opportunity. I'm just grateful to give me a call. I'm just that's one thing I am very grateful for. I'm very, very thankful for that he, you know, he gave me that call. So I'm very really excited to be here. Obviously, we all have work to do. So we're going to keep doing that. But he's a great guy. Oh, yeah, you know, just to try my hardest in spring, obviously moving the fall can be no do my job. And wherever, you know, they're going to put the best five on the field at the end of the day. So whatever coach Boan thinks that's what's going to be his decision. We mentioned having four offensive line coaches. How much does that help to have so many different range? It definitely helps a lot. You know, whenever you have a question and so easy to get feedback in me, you don't have to ask this coach Boan. You guys did key if you want to whoever you want to ask. There's so many resources. So compared to you know, last year we just had, we had three guys. It was just in Friday and coach and then one of a guy. But it's been a lot different. I've been lacking a lot more.

2:04:55Do you feel like you're able to get more individual instruction of having so many coaches like that? I definitely said that. We know we hold a lot of meetings. So you know, talking to specific coaches about different things, you know, all them explain stuff a little different just to be able to find one that is, you know, it speaks to you in the way you like it to. So how light helpful. Are you said that you changed your body a little bit? Did you got here? Have you felt the difference already in spring? I definitely have. You know, I would say I was a physical in high school, but I've been a lot more physical. I can tell just, you know, coach making the strength staff, you know, they help you a lot, just exposing and all that. So I appreciate the strength staff a lot. Then what did you anywhere with team? How much has that helped you and the other early enrollments? Not just getting there, but apparently, this is about learning the culture of a high school. So coach, they asked all the seniors before we came in. They asked us if they were OK for us to come with the playoffs with them and they all just give it a green light. They wanted us to experience that for the next time we're in the playoffs. So we can see that I think that's helped tremendously. I think I made this mature just being around those guys and knowing what to do when we do get to that place. Are there ways that you've heard you see that fit on?

2:05:55I definitely can say, you know, just maturity-wise, especially from this class. I think we all just came in a little bit maybe immature, but we've definitely grown throughout that process. Just see the way a guy like Donovan Jackson stepped up for obviously, once he was here. How inspiring is that for you? It's very inspiring. You know, me and Donnie were pretty close to like to talk to him a lot. So, you know, just seeing him move from guard to tackle and just make such a huge jump in that little time was just really cool to watch. Carter, especially the three primary coaches you're working on, do they all speak the same language? If you follow my driv, I mean, who do you listen to most, I guess, in those kind of situations? You know, they're all from different places. So at first, I think it was a little hard for them to mention the one that would link open. Now they've got it down packed. They're all at the same exact thing. So that's been helping a lot. I mean, obviously they can explain stuff a little different if you like them too, but they've been doing a good job of keeping everything together. And Coach Dick in particular, what's he brought? What's he brought to you? What are some tidbits or things he's brought to open your eyes a little bit? Just let the little older playstyle. I could say he's not like too fancy on all the technique stuff. So I like just how straightforward he is

2:06:56with all the technique stuff for sure. Just very straightforward. I know you know Luke pretty well both being from Toledo. How have you just seen Luke Bro here and so far going into this year? I think I've been watching him for a while. You know, I've known him like you said. But I've just seen him grow as a leader. It's been really cool just seeing him a while back. You know, I think all the software he's just seeing you, we always play to each other. But seeing him move into that leader role has been really cool to see. What kind of leadership is he bringing to that leader right now? Just always talking to the younger guys, then encouraging us, you know, tell us what we need to do. And not only the younger guys, but the other guys just encourage us as a whole. And what does his story mean to you? I mean, obviously this time of year ago, he wasn't even sure where he was gonna fit in or whatever. Now, especially through the playoffs, he was a force. I mean, what does it just tell you about perseverance but also a season? I think it really just never give up. I mean, obviously you might not start the first game. Maybe not even the second game, but you can always make an impact if you really, if that's your desire. Who you've been leading on, so that's what Luis played on the team. Nice start. I kind of teach you the ropes and kind of teach you

2:07:57to take some tricks and tricks. Here's some tricks to move, you know, all the offensive lines on the team. I would say Austin and Luke a lot, you know, I talked to them for your office, especially about technique stuff. Austin's been playing a little different places. So he's been helping me a lot of my small technique things, just what to do for sure. Is it the small stuff that is a big adjustment from playing top and falling? Is that really what it kind of meant to me? Yeah, yeah. It's definitely the smaller stuff. There's like, you know, hand protection stuff like that. Nothing to address it. So it's been good. The trade just hasn't been too crazy. Part of exactly what positions have you been repiting? Only a left tackle. Yeah, so far. You feel pretty comfortable there. I feel very comfortable here. These are grown men you're going against. Kinyata and Kaden are like 22, 23 years old. Yeah, yeah. Obviously, that's a lot different than the high school you're playing, what, 16, 17, most 18. So it hasn't been a lot different. The first co-practice were my best, but I definitely adjusted pretty well this spring. Two more questions. Part of that last Jaymon's kind of the same thing. You guys obviously coached by, was very close. He came up with a little ham for a time, and then all the sudden, by the time you get up here,

2:08:58he's gone. How's it been getting them? That was a new offensive line, good. It's been really good. You know, obviously, we had all the freshmen out of really good relationship with coach Frye. You know, then seeing him leave was obviously a little hard, but we all kept our minds open with coach Byron, and we're liking him a lot. We've been developing relationships with him, and he's been really good to us so far. Good. Thank you. Thank you, guys, in the room. I mean, I'm not sure it's probably something you got to ask him, but you know, Jeremiah has played with a lot of great guys throughout his career. He's seen all the talent you can see in the world, but I don't know if he's ever in all, but I mean. You went all in. Oh, and I, oh, yeah. I mean, I'm not surprised at anything he does now. Like, I've seen him just out. We were nine years old, so anything he does, anyone hand-kid, I've seen, I'm not surprised at anything he does. When he was nine, did you know this is not, this is something special we've been met, anything you did at nine? Oh, yeah. I mean, coaches were coming up to us, complaining that we were nine years old.

2:09:59Like, can we get their IDs and stuff like that? So, I mean, I mean, there's definitely some footage. Like, we gotta go find, but the place we used to make when we were younger and just to see where he is now is amazing. It seems very unaffected by all of the starter. Yeah. How did that happen? I think how he was raised. He's very level-headed. He knows his goals and what he wants to get done in life. And this is just one step of the way for him. Can I throw a back to Texas for a couple of questions on Zoom, Scotty? Yes, sir. We're gonna start with Defond from Clean.com. Go ahead. Brandon, I wanna go back to what you were talking about with Coach Day earlier. You know, whenever he talks about this team success, he says all the credit goes through players. Seems like the players think that he deserves some of the credit. How big, how influential has he been during the turnaround you guys have had these last few weeks? He's a bit huge, man.

2:10:59Coming here after that team of North Wallace, he knows heart breaking, of course. But we came in here, we had a leadership meeting, he was in here, I mean, and then we had a team meeting after that. Hearing the stuff he had to say, and we had to say going back and forth, we just, we knew, we would have his back no matter what. I mean, there's a lot of stuff said about him and his family and stuff like that, but hey, here we're a brotherhood and we're a family, and we just, we gonna stand by him no matter what. Our next question is gonna come from Dan Hope. Dan, go ahead. Brandon, I mean, I'm sure you came in here to Ohio State thinking you'd probably be starting here in your second year, but it seems like you really embraced the growth process. Just what's kind of that process that like for you of kind of embracing your role this season and continuing to develop? Yeah, in life things doesn't go the way you exactly planted to and that just happened, things happened to Mecca last year that allowed him to come back and that allowed me

2:12:00to learn more and that's just how I see it make me a better football player for the future. So yeah, I mean, yeah, let's see it. Three more on Zoom, next one's gonna come from Stefan Means. Go ahead. Steven, but. Dan, start. Yeah, you're good. But Brandon, there are a lot of clips of you this year where you're super, super excited after a block and kind of showing your emotion there. What about blocking do you love so much as a receiver? Just being able to hit another guy with all my power as hard as I can without any consequences. Except if you, except if you hold of course, but yeah, just bringing that power. I mean, I heard some of the defensive guys telling me yesterday they were like, wow, I hate to go against you. So knowing that from the defensive guys, so I know with the other defensive guys are thinking,

2:13:00like, just keep bringing it to them. They're not gonna like it before quarters. That's my mindset. Next question's gonna come from Danny Davis. Danny, go ahead. Brandon, what are your impressions of these Texas defensive backs and this kind of we've seen from them on, to them so far? Yeah, the last couple of days we watched them, they're fast team. They don't give up many big plays down field. They're aggressive, but I actually know some of the DBs they have at corner there. I don't mind play with them. Well, I played with Mollik Muhammad at SFE, so I might know him a little bit. And we have a watching them, they're fast team, they're physical, they're disciplined, but we just gotta get the job done. Give any Mollik stories or any? What's on? Give any Mollik stories or anything you remember about playing with them? Oh, yeah, but I'm not gonna say them here.

2:14:02Yeah, we'll just keep that. Our final question's gonna come from Kurt Bulls. Kurt, go ahead. Hey, Brandon, one of the issues Texas has had the second half of the year is finishing. And what if you can speak to, and they had a trouble obviously in the Peach Bowl, you know, blew a 16-point lead? Can you talk about finishing and having a killer instinct? And you guys obviously seem to have that now. Yeah, I think that started in off season training at Fall Camp. We always say go plus two. If you're doing a 10-yard pro-shadow you have to go plus two throughout the line and that's just finishing as well. And then Fall Camp, we had these long two-and-a-half hour practices or whatnot. And then we came out and we had to do these finisher as we called them, ask for games late in the year like this. And I think Coach Day has a great job preparing all of us for these moments. And yeah, we're just ready to go.

2:15:03We have time for just a couple more questions and clumpets so we can wrap up with our other two guys. Bill Landis, Kings of the North. And Tramion, the second touchdown run. It seemed like you took two players out of the play first with your release and then with the guy you actually walked. Is that how it's designed? Or was it just lucky that the guy decided to take off inside of the release? It's actually designed for me to walk the safety and lead the corner 101 with the running back. But I was surprised that the corner actually came in so far on my release. I think he thought it was a pass. But I think he was edge of the defense. If you go watch that play, but I don't know. I don't really know why he came in so far. But it helped out for us. And I made my block and Tramion off score. Is there any lesson there for even a young receiver watching that that even if you know him a play, you're not getting the ball. You're in tend to the block. But you release has to be at all point like as if you're going to go pitch pass. Yeah, definitely. Every little detail matters and then type of plays. We were in a red zone there.

2:16:04So we say every yard matters. It's two yards. So the block I made is just a testament to Kyle. Coach Hartline threatened me throughout the week to make that block. And final question. Joy Conference, Columbus Dispatch. Brandon Will has been one of the ball deep well lately. And some of the special way you guys have opened games. What do you think is this clip for you guys and for him and watching those plays? A lot more confidence. I say throughout the year, we were always there as offense. We didn't quite know our identity. And now slowly but surely I think we found that. And we're going to keep on rolling. And he's made some great throws. And yeah. I'm sorry, Brandon. I do have one more steep. How many more sevens for you? You've been in different opportunities for you to play a huge role on offense. And the number of plays you play in game can differ from one week to the next. But the opportunity is coming sooner rather

2:17:04than later for you to be in every down player. Just what are the things you need to do in your game to take it from where it is now to be in every down guy? I think there's a lot of things I could work on in my game. I would say continuing to be football smart by IQ. Just knowing what the defense is going to do before they do it. My routes always can get better. My hands always can get better staying in the jugging machine. Work ethic, keep on top of it. Don't get satisfied with anything I do. And don't get too big, don't get too low. Don't get too high. Don't get too low is what they say. Do you feel like a guy that the people follow, it seems? In your mind, even the second you're guy, that you're working toward being a leadership type guy. I got to have guys that will take that role. Yeah. It's a great feeling, of course. No guys are watching what you do and listening to what you do. But I just feel like we do that with a lot of players here,

2:18:05not just myself, but the leadership we have on this team is like no other. And that's why we got so far, I think. Brandon, thank you very much for being in the meetings last year and being around the program, as well as he's been around the program. Does that show up more on the field during the course of the tournament? If there is any advantage for him? Yeah, I mean, he wasn't out here practicing last year. So the first time that he was out here running around, the field was in December when he came up for it. And I had practiced as an early enrollee or January whenever that was. So I think there's a little bit of advantage there, just because he did get to see practice before. But again, I think that you do have some understanding and awareness of the offense. And maybe it's not the first time you hear about the formations, but to be able to go and apply that to the field. I mean, that takes a lot of work. So there is a slight advantage there, just from how much he was around the program. But I'm not sure if in the meeting room or on the field, which one affects more ultimately, we're judged based on what we do on the field. And it goes to go out there and execute it. How do you guys show that they are the toughest guys

2:19:05on the team when they get the touch? Yeah. We talk about it all the time. So if we want to show where the toughest guys on the team, we can do that by showing where the hardest working guys on the team. We can show that we are the mentally toughest guys on the team. We can make sure that we don't ever get too high or too low. And we play with passion and emotion without letting that emotion and passion play with us and affect us. And we talk a lot in the quarterback room about moving on to the next most important thing. So if I have a play where maybe I made the wrong read or screwed something up, I've got about half a second to kind of be bummed out about it. But I've got to learn from it. I've got to move on to the next most important thing. Because so many guys let that first play affect the next play. So we're really working to continue to grow from that. But as far as showing that we're top, I even sell our guys that, hey, if I'm, I don't know, lost in Sarabot. And I'm watching film. And I see in the back of that film that Julian is up

2:20:08or Tavian is up, but Lincoln and the opposite of Julian and Tavian are standing in the back doing a mental rep. That gives me confidence if I'm Austin that those guys, one understand what they're doing and two are committed to get better. And are going to be in position to be tough when we need them to be tough. So like little things like that are something that we're constantly working on to show that we're being in that position. What have you seen from Lincoln in your first year working with him to help? What he's doing with it? Yeah. I've definitely seen a lot of growth from getting in here in June last year. And to what we're seeing right now, it's just a full year of understanding the offense, a full year of getting a feel for what we're trying to do and what we're trying to accomplish. And just the whole new details about where my eyes need to be, how I can tie my feet in with my eyes, how I can make sure that I'm not just throwing the ball to the right receiver because that's what my red dictated. But I'm also throwing it at the right time. And I've accuracy within that accuracy that I just displayed by putting it on the right shoulder,

2:21:10or the right to offset our receiver and throw them away from a defender, whatever that may look like. So that's what I'm excited because you're starting to see more and more of that from Lincoln as we've getting into the two practices. And we've only had two practices. But just that growth that I don't think is a growth that happened over two practices, growth that happened from the time we got here, and I got here in June through right now. And that's a success. He said, now, three quarterback coaches in three years, three, like all there's in three years, can that be like an advantage for him of understanding different concepts, and different reads, having to see things through different lenses because he's had so many different voices in his head. Or how do you end up giving that out? Yeah, I mean, he said, he said, different quarterback coaches. But the reality is it's been the same tasking. It's been the same system. So it's not like we changed the way we read a play based on who the quarterback coach was before. We may make slight tweaks, or adjustments,

2:22:10or add a new concept in or two. But I think what Lincoln can get from having those three different quarterback coaches is maybe just three different slightly different perspectives where the message is still the same. So maybe it's just a slightly different delivery of the same message. And I think that can definitely be a advantage, because he still knows, you know, on this concept, this is where my read is, but maybe he heard it in a different way over the last three years. And I guess could be an advantage. Is there going to be more questions if you are these quarterbacks and they're supposed to be the toughest guy, first guy to go in the last guy to leave? But they're all trying to do that. How do you then separate yourself as it has one of those guys given that they're all trying to strive to do the same things because they're different? Yeah. I think the ultimately right is can I sustain it? Can I be the guy that does it most consistently? I think every single one of them, I know every single one of them, sorry, I quote by Coach Day, which is pretty awesome.

2:23:11It's so real. It's who we have to be. We've got to be the toughest guys in the building. We've got to be the hardest working guys in the building. So it's easy to go ahead and do that and be that guy. The next day after seeing that quote, can I continue to be that guy when we're in practice 11 of spring ball? Or we're in summer and we're going through workouts with Coach Mick. And it's June 17th. Can I be that guy with that consistency all the way up through Fall Camp? It ended to moving on into next year. And I think that anyone can do something just once. But can I be the guy that can do a consistency? And if you look at anyone that's done anything great, it's been because of their consistency. What do you think being all the traits? Where does can't you be the quarterback that Ohio State fit in, the kind of magnitude of that? Is he able to handle that position? Where does that fit into your evaluation? Yeah, I think all these guys were, a lot of that was done in the recruitment process.

2:24:11I'm confident that all three of them can be the guy that I want to say, I think that those guys are already kind of check that box. So now it's just a matter of who goes out and so on. The ocean moves us, surfing a wave or savoring the view. The ocean delights us as playful otters restore coastal cal porous. The ocean connects us. Visit monoraybeacquarium.org slash connects. Calci's own CEO says it himself. And he has two thirds of people on Calci lose money. So what does it take to be in the other third? You have to do extensive amount of research to be good. There are people that spend copious amount of money, time, resources, energy. They've dedicated their lives to basically becoming good at this. All that and still. And yes, two thirds of people on Calci lose money. lose money. That's Calci in their own CEOs words. Go to www.fairpredics.com to learn more. And again, we are so far away from that point, but when we're recruiting a guy, we try to figure all that stuff out.

2:25:11We're gathering as much data as we possibly can to learn about the person and to understand their mental makeup and to make sure that they're fit. It's pretty cool up in the quarterback room. We've got pictures of all the cradle high of state quarterbacks up on the wall. And you go through and take a look at those guys. And it's just pretty neat. But above all, you can talk about some of the different guys' mental makeup and what made them different. And so how do we find those guys in Bremen of End and Recruiting? And so we get to the point like we are now where you feel really confident about all three of those guys that they are mentally tough enough and can be at that point that they can't be that guy. What do you think they learned the most from Will in the job he did last year overall? I'm close to that. Yeah. Where do I start? Will, when it came to intangibles, I haven't been, I can't say I've been doing this for 35 years or anything crazy like that, but was by far the best I've ever seen do it. And just as far as what he did the best,

2:26:13I think it just having it such a complete understanding of the offense from the run game to the past game to the protections, just understanding the ins and outs and the little details and everybody's job and where certain concepts or protections or playstyles were weak and how to adjust them if we were going to see something that made us weak there. And having that total command, because I think a big part of trust is showing that I'm competent. And I understand. And so Will built that trust in his teammates by showing that he was extremely competent. He understood everything and all the ins and outs. And he could tell everybody on the field what to do. And from there, then he built it, grabbed on and grabbed the trust of all of his teammates. And then he could start to lead. So the biggest thing, it's tough to say. But I think that everything that he did was kind of built off his total understanding

2:27:14of what we were trying to do offensively. Billy, thank you very much. Thanks guys. Thanks for just going on with Sean and the rest of them. How much pressure is on the state fans to perform to the higher level of respect and the highest on me? Right. I would say that last year was, we excelled in certain things, but we're also trying to get back to where we were in the past. So we got some great additions. And we're excited for that. Ultimately, it's to use some of these guys to be the number one defense in the league. And that's always going to be the goal. So whatever we can do to utilize all the different talent that we have on this team to be the best and play as a team and to build the best chemistry that we got, that's what we're going to do. The fans out about this offense. You see, just early, just early in the game, and we can change that. Yeah, we're not used to going against the normal offense. I have been the past three years. So it's been a lot more moving pieces.

2:28:14Definitely have to use your eyes pretty well, because if not, then somebody's going to be open. But I like what they're doing. I'm very excited for it. I just know it's making our defense a little bit better because we're having to do different things, not just the normal offense we've been used to. I was going to say just because every other team has some variations that they were in this game, does that kind of do you think that'll kind of benefit you because you've seen that more than the first away? I would say so. I mean, as the league has changed over time, I think they revert to certain offenses that do well in certain systems. I would say we're taking maybe a little bit pieces from other offense that we see to do well. So I like what we're doing. I mean, I don't know as much as some of these quarterbacks that we have on the team, some of the offensive players, but I just know it's tough to go against. Lowest that number last year, but still one of the top teams scored in defense. And what do you guys really need to do to finish after the quarterback? Yeah, I would just say place heavy emphasis in practice.

2:29:16It's always going to start in practice with getting after the quarterback, not touching in practice, but making some good moves. And I would just say rush more. I mean, there's so much that goes into it, goes with the coverage. Everybody works together. I would say that we had great numbers, but we are trying to get that number up, but the ultimate goal is always going to be the ball. Getting the ball taken away, getting off the field. We're putting our offense out there on the field and we're staying off. That means that we're doing a good job. And you already asked about it for my competition standpoint. Before my collective standpoint, having you wins tomorrow, you're going to win on the field. What kind of a trio can do for a defense? And the sky's the limit with this group. I do believe we have one of the most talented linebacker core groups in the league. So just excited what we're going to be able to do out there on the field. I think we all compliment each other super well. Bigger guys that are explosive. So I'm excited for it.

2:30:19I'm OGs recently, but yeah, it's their side of the team. What have you seen from Sonny, this offseason, moving into a different goal? He's really stuffed up as our later of the defense. I mean, he's being in his room. I really get to see how he operates every day. He doesn't take a single rep off. He's not just the most vocal leader, but he's also, he leads by example. He is one of the biggest, fastest, strongest dudes we have, but he's also the hardest working dude we have. He's never skipping out on recovery, watching film. Literally everything he represents what a buck-eye football player should be. And just learning from him every day, I just, it's helped me in time. With the position of my mom. Just every day, I mean, he's pretty athletic. He knows what he's doing to. He's a savvy football player. And so it's good having him and the locker right next to me. And us just talking ball every day.

2:31:20You know, how he could have done this better and I could have done this better. Just making each other better. And we're having fun out there and flying around. Hey, you guys talked about the rubber band. We're in the way. Could you have a coach like David and Madison also kind of build his own active player in the field? How does that help him? He has our experience. He's one of the biggest women in the world. I mean, it's awesome having him because like, he really does understand it. I would say he understands it more than most guys. He was a captain in all American here. Like the stuff he's doing today, like every day, he'll show some sort of, you know, every single, we're going through camp every day. He's going, he's posting a picture of every all American linebacker we've had. And we got to learn about him. Like, not just the brotherhood we have here, but the past brotherhood. So we learn new all American linebacker every week. And we got to learn what he did for the bug guys and what he didn't leave and stuff like that. And so I think it's helped a lot. And then, you know, he's having the young guys learn the fight song and pop quiz and stuff.

2:32:23So it's great. We're having a lot of fun. We know how to do that. Like, you go actually up on the roof and say, how does that help you get activated to the standard? It helps a ton because he, I mean, like when you walk in the linebacker room, you just, like when I walked in, I was like, man, this brotherhood is real. And I have older guys helping me when I got here because we had a pretty old team last year. And they brought me in and I came in on a boot. And, you know, I didn't know how I was going to go. And they were all cheering me on even though, like I was hurting the way room I'm getting cheered on and competitions and stuff like that. And guys, like they know your name. You know, really, it's helped a lot. And so I think like this past year has really helped me, you know, bringing the young guys, you know, help with them and stuff like that. And we're super tied as a linebacker room. And so it's been great. Who's this week's All-American? This week's All-American. We had, today was Pepper Johnson. So number 98, he's a baller.

2:33:25So we've had one every day. Like we've had different guys. So we had Spielman yesterday. So it's just someone new every day. And it's fun because you get here. You know, Lauren isa's a lot of stories about them, which is some funny stories. Would you vote for Zonk? He hasn't posted his yet. No, eventually, I thank you, Will. So we'll see. We'll see. I like it. We'll see. Yeah, I've resonated with, like, good guys. I think, I mean, I think all of them, they're just, they're so, like, they're so many that have come through here. And I think it helps, like, there's a standard, like you can play linebacker here. Like the goal should be the best linebacker unit in the country across the board and have the best linebackers. And so I think that it's really set a standard for us. Wait, does it matter to you? And going out our way, you're getting it struck. And then, oh my god, it's been there, done that. I mean, at the highest level, how much does it enhance what he's telling you? Yeah, 100%. I mean, it validates a lot of stuff he says. And I think that's one of the main reasons I like them so much

2:34:28is that he's not only our personal relationship is great, but like, he knows everything about the game. And I'm learning so much every single day. And like, you can't find a coach. He doesn't know more about linebacker than he does. And he's been through every situation. He knows when the offense does this play, what's hard for the linebacker on that play? And he understands it, finds ways to help us get through those plays and stuff like that. What do you think it is to be a true book out there? It meant a lot. I feel like it was one of my biggest accomplishments in my life at SCO. Obviously, I think the goal one day is to be a captain here. But I feel like being an Iron Buck, I have a big, big off season, or getting bigger and stronger. I think you just meant a lot because our teammates vote on it too. And so just knowing that like, every day, when we do those one-on-one competitions, and leading guys, people are noticing that I was given everything I had. So it didn't mean a lot to have coach make and all been choose made a good Iron Buck.

2:35:29When the past of this off season, did you start and kind of visualize some goals that you had? Was that one of them? Yeah, I mean, right off the bat, when the last season ended, my goal was to be a starter and Iron Buck. I am just taking steps every day. We read a book, chop with care water, and it's a lot about living in the present. And so I think that's helped all of us at time is like, what can we do today? We are very best. And so I think that's what's helped me a lot. I mean, I still got a lot really good. We still got a lot of good times. Are you just being you the last questions you did that? I mean, you're the main one. Were you getting rewervers? You don't just being you, except your work ethic anyway? Yeah, I mean, my parents are still a strong work ethic at me, and not backing down for many situations and stuff like that. And so I think just going in, leading, and giving everything I got every day is just how I happen to work. Great. Thank you very much. And I mean, we're just all excited to go out there and keep you.

2:36:29OK, well, it's anyway off. The fact that the way that this de-defense has additions on every level, talk about it and the people to mind and the draft being there, you guys have really the second level and the third level, who they go on with Sean and the rest of them. How much pressure is on this de-defense to perform to the higher level of respect and should have passed on me? Right. I would say that last year was, you know, we excelled in certain things, but we're also trying to get back to where we were in the past. So we got some great additions. And we're excited for that. Ultimately, it's to use some of these guys to be the number one defense in the league. And that's always going to be the goal. So whatever we can do to utilize all the different talent that we have on this team to be the best and play as a team and to build the best chemistry that we got, that's what we're going to do. What stands out about this offense? Just see, just early, just early in the game, and I think we'll see.

2:37:30Yeah, we're not used to going against the normal offense I have been the past three years. So it's been a lot more moving pieces. Definitely have to use your eyes pretty well, because if not, then somebody's going to be open. But I like what they're doing. I'm very excited for it. I just know it's making our defense a little bit better, because we're having to do different things, not just the normal offense we've been used to. I was going to say just because every other team has some variations that they were in this game. Is that kind of, do you think that kind of benefit you? Because you've seen that more than the rest of the week. I would say so. I mean, as the league has changed over time, I think they revert to certain offenses that do well in certain systems. I would say we're taking maybe a little bit pieces from other offense that we see to do well. So I like what we're doing. I mean, I don't know as much as some of these quarterbacks that we have on the team, some of the offensive players but I just know it's tough to go against. I'm low second number last year,

2:38:32but still one of the top teams scoring defenses. What do you guys really need to do to finish after the quarterback? Yeah, I would just say place heavy emphasis in practice. It's always going to start in practice with getting after the quarterback, not touch him in practice, but making some good moves. And I would just say rush more. I mean, there's so much that goes into it, goes with the coverage. Everybody works together. I would say that we had great numbers, but we are trying to get that number up. But the ultimate goal is always going to be the ball. Getting the ball taken away, getting off the field. We're putting our offense out there on the field and we're staying off. That means that we're doing a good job. And you already asked about it from my competition standpoint. But from my collective standpoint, having you wins tomorrow, you're going to be able to go to the field. What kind of a tree can I do for a defense? And the sky's limit with this group. I do believe we have one of the most talented linebacker core groups in the league. So just excited what we're going to be able to do out there

2:39:34on the field. I think we all compliment each other super well. Bigger guys that are explosive. So I'm excited for it. It's really just our family, first-year family. And we just got a person here, and we got to win the games and get back to the men. We're going to start line. We're going to start line with saying that our Allen Brand and I've really been leaders in the bottom. For sure. How have they both been leaders for you and the every-one? They've been leaders just in multiple ways, whether our column, we're in the film room together on the jugs. I'm asking them about this route, how I could run it better. I'm asking them how I run this route on this play. Just many different things. I feel like those guys, they're like big brothers and all that Dennis helped me. A valuable is that to have guys that are in the play on the ball, but also been a college for a while. So we're doing good as to various things about college life. I value what I think about it. It's real valuable for sure, because they're first round picked guys. So I feel like just being in a room with those guys, and if you're able to thrive with those guys,

2:40:35you know something's going good for you. What are your impressions of the quarterback at the specific Italian? So the freshman company? What have you kind of known about him and what are you talking about? I always had a good relationship with Tavian. He recruited me hard to come here. So I feel like we always talked and he came here and he's been doing this thing, they've all been doing their thing. And Julian's saying he's another Cali Kissel. I had a little relationship with him too. So good to see Julian, Lincoln, Ed, Tavian all doing real good. What is that next step for you to play in terms of evolution? What do you want to get to that? It's great. I just really just everything. I feel like you can never be too perfect. And I feel like you just got to keep doing your job. So I say maybe just showing up more and just doing my job to the tee. Going against these corners of these TVs, how does that kind of aid you better? Is there a pretty talented guy? At high school, in high school, I had a five-star corner DJ on Lee. He's at Alabama. So I always had good work with corners.

2:41:36So I feel like it's just a lot. I'm going against a lot of good guys now. Instead of just being one on one that practice with DJ. So it's real good for short. Does the take more courage to play with Slot? Say it again, please. Do you think more courage to play with Slot? What do you mean by that? Because there's more stuff. But I think there's bigger hinders inside. You have to have a... You've got to be aware of it, but there's a slight more courage to do that. I guess you can say that. I feel like I just always play Slot. And I feel like that's what I've been better at. So I feel like it's just what I have to do to be on the sock. No matter who's in front of me, how big he is, how strong he is, I feel like if I got an assignment, I got to do it. I'm looking around. I remember my first day. I'm looking around. I'm looking at July. Crazy. Then I see Jeremiah crazy. I'm just looking around everybody. KJ, Ken and Craig get off the bar. I'm okay. This is the real deal. For sure.

2:42:37How do you take that only fat moment and then go from it? Um... I really just take that and I just... I just take that as a challenge. I'm okay. Like, they got all these attributes. They got all these things, but can they get past me? Can they beat me though? So every day, just working on that. Just getting better and better. Have you used to get off the strong race, jumping, falling on the straps? Uh, yeah. That's my dog. We came in together and just like talking to each other about the process, especially when I was like, Coach Ryle left and I was like, you know, we're going to do what you and me and then we just stuck through it. And, um, me and him, now, I just talked to them every day. That's my bully and working on different things. Because he's at the left. I'm at the right scene. Things from different point of view. So it's really... How's the transition going for you? I was going to be amazing. I feel every day get better and better. Going to get to the best of every day. So you have to be on your A-K and, uh, going to get to the news like CJ. That's my play. Just getting better and better and transition.

2:43:38Just, you know, I'm an hour half away from home. So this has been pretty good. I started four games last period and so those... So what are you kind of thinking of within the number of those? And no game would make you learn? Um, I think, like, for my role, I think I did just enough. Like, as a person I am now, if I was a person, I feel like I would have done lay better. But just going into that role, helping that's helping Minnesota, do what we got to do. And I feel like I did just enough. There's always back to, I always do. There's always one for equipment. Where did you see the company? Um, the specific one. Pass, pro, and my first steps. Working on those things. I had the lift, I had the power. I just, I was all over the place. And just every, I feel like every game I was understanding, um, how the game worked, and how to, uh, attack, how to be passive, how to work together. As an online unit, not just being by myself.

2:44:38And the first step, what, what, what about that first step, huh? Um, really just, uh, make sure I feel powerful out of my stance. That was the one big thing I had to work on. And especially at my last school, working on my stance, making sure I can push off and, like, gain ground. And I felt like sometimes I wasn't doing that. Even when you mentioned that he had to lose 30 pounds when he got here. Did you have to change from your body at all? Definitely. I was three, 20 coming in, and I've known, I played at three, 20, I feel great. And then, uh, they told me they wanted me to go down to three, 15. And I was like, nah, I want to do that. I got three, 15. I started running. I started, they started putting me on a meal plan. They started doing all this. I'm like, oh, hold on. I see the vision. Yeah. I definitely changed the form of my body. My arm is definitely getting bigger. Uh, weight room. Um, it's been amazing. I'm growing every day. It's hard every day. But I love it though. Like, I'm getting work, I have to practice after the weight room. I'm, uh, cooked, but I can see the results and, uh, seeing the games.

2:45:39What is it like, uh, you leave a place. You know, you're probably breaking some people's hearts back there. It's not that the describe what it's like to make a move like this. Yeah. I mean, uh, and basically the midst of a college career. Um, what were you seeking more than anything else? It was definitely a big move. Uh, what was I seeking? Just, um, just a development with, um, no one I can, I wanted to go and give some of the best dudes every day. And coming here, I'll be able to do that. Um, uh, just a training program in the culture here. And, uh, it's summer. Minnesota. So it was definitely, uh, like a easy merge. You had said you were, but you hadn't really thought about Ohio State being an option. When you went into the hotel house, quickly, sort of, emerged. What do you remember about just, was there ever a group of people? Um, I remember coach Frye, Tommy, when I hit the portal. Um, he was one of the, uh, a couple of first people to hit me up. Um, I was gonna, I was gonna go home anyways, because I was gonna go to my mom house.

2:46:39Because I fasted. Um, when I hit the portal, make sure I was making the right decision. And I was gonna go home with my family and just talk about it. And because of them, they were like, uh, you're already an hour and a half away. So you might as well just see the stuff up there. They want to show an interest. And I was like, you mentioned the transition from fry to Tyler Bowen. What's been like playing for coach Bowen so far? Um, I don't really know too much about coach Frye, you know, just a little bit, uh, but what I was in here, I definitely saw like, uh, dudes definitely develop. Like I can see it on tape. Not necessarily like, really see that practice. But with coach Bowen, um, um, every day, just improving. And he's just always telling me things, uh, little things. I don't even notice, um, that I'm, and I need to work on, especially with coach Johnson and coach Dickey. Uh, having those three in the room is probably the best thing ever for you. Got some great additions and, um, we're excited for that. Ultimately it's to use some of these guys to, uh, be the number one defense, um, in the lead. And that's always going to be the goal.

2:47:40Uh, so whatever we can do to utilize all the different talent that we have on this team to, to be the best and play as a team and, um, to build the best chemistry that we got. Uh, that's what we're going to do. It's a challenge about just offense. You see, just early, just early, in the game with the chance of, like, um, Yeah, we're not used to going against, uh, the normal offense I have been the past three years. So it's been a lot more, uh, moving, moving pieces, uh, definitely have to use your eyes pretty well, because if not, then somebody's going to be open. Um, but I like what they're doing. I'm very excited for it. Um, I just know it's making our defense a little bit better, because we're having to do different things. Not just the normal, um, offense we've been used to. That was going to say just because every other team has some variations of that one in this year. Does that kind of do you think that'll kind of benefit you? Because you've seen that more than the rest of it. I would say so. I mean, as the, the league has, has changed over time. I think they revert to certain offenses that are, that do well in certain systems.

2:48:42And I would say we're taking, maybe a little bit pieces from other offense that we, we see to do well. So I like what we're doing. I mean, I don't know as much as some of these quarterbacks that we have on the team, some of the offensive players, but I just know it's tough to go against. Hello, Zach, number last year, but still one of the top two scoring defenses. What do you guys really need to do to finish after the quarterback? Yeah, I would just say place, uh, you know, heavy emphasis in practice. It's always going to start in practice with getting after, um, the quarterback, not, not touching him in practice, but, you know, making some good moves. And, and I would just say rush, rush more. Um, I mean, there's so much that goes into it and it goes with the coverage. Everybody works together. Um, I would say that we had, we had great numbers, um, but we do, we are trying to get that number up. But the ultimate goal is always going to be the ball, getting the ball, uh, taking it away, getting off the field. We're putting our offense out there on the field and we're staying off.

2:49:42That means that we're doing a good job. And you're already asked about it for my competition standpoint. But from what I like to stand for, having you wins a margin, we're going to go feel what kind of a trio can do for a defense. I mean, this guy's a limit with this group. I do believe we have one of the most talented linebacker core groups in the league. So, um, just excited what we're going to be able to do out there on the field. I think we all compliment each other super well. Bigger guys that are explosive. Um, so I'm excited for it. Thank you. Bart is was was was was going to be up in the air. So I think for me, just starting out, I took it something that was kind of important to me that whoever was, everyone competing for that spot, I wanted to create a bond with them. Um, because I feel like a tackle guard bond is important in terms of communication understanding. Because again, a left tackle is only as good as guard is and vice versa. You know what I mean? So I feel like I've done a good enough job so far of starting to develop that relationship with each potential guy.

2:50:43So that way as we as spot as a spot is getting, you know, as people started compete for that spot. Um, again, I feel like it's I should be able to I should be able to pop in with whoever. And we should continue to keep the standard of standard. And that makes sense. That's my mindset. First, there's a guy competing for a spot and I've never spent any time with him. Just one all one during the summer and just taking reps before camp. Hey, what's coming to facility is to XYZ. Let's talk about this tape XYZ. Then they come in and then now there's no kind of flow. So now I'm not really seeing how that how we're going to fit together. But I want to fit with as many people at left cars possible that way when the city has been made. There's no new startup process. I got to start over my process with this guy. It's kind of already been flown. That makes sense. That goes in position that draws a lot of focus. Are you going to be able to pressure the position on the mind? You're opinion. What is what is the problem mindset to succeed?

2:51:43I think that the mindset for me as always has been that when I win my one on one, the ball goes down the field. You know what I mean? And I think that's what I'm most excited about just being a left tackle is that, especially with the protections that are a little bit of longer plays where the left tackle tends to be one on one or my, the plays I tend to love the most because kind of halfway through the play, you're lacking them up and you just know that he can't go anywhere. You start to smile a little bit. You're like, oh, dude, ball's gone. You know what I mean? Like ball's gone and it's going to be a touchdown. It's going to be a huge gain. So I think for me that's kind of the mindset you kind of have to have the left tackle spot as that. As soon as I win my rep, we're going down the field. So that's just the mindset I have in terms of how well I have to prepare. Do you want the mindset and where the people that you want to get there? Honestly, I'll say that mindset kind of came from college.

2:52:44Again, obviously I played with a lot of great guys in college. You know, I'm glad we have all of those guys here. You know what I mean? To throw the ball to as well just because against one of those things. Like with CJ, you just, again, the left tackle, my mindset was just, well, that's CJ just do his thing and that's my thing. I want Kyle ready to be able to do his thing. Don't worry about whoever's over here just do your thing. That's why you're here and just throw at the Marvin. And we'll be good. You know what I mean? So that's something excited about. And I think all that starts because of what we do on the line. So I think just not just myself but the entire room takes pride in. Hey, like when we do our job upfront, that's how everything else goes. So let these guys we have with the ball in their hands do all that magic. We just got to do our job just to entertain it when you're one on one, you know. You know, just playing that spot means something special just because of the history of that position. And, you know, just of all the greats that have played left tackle.

2:53:45I mean, do you ever think about just the past and the, you know, the people, the players before you who were in that spot and did great things? Yeah, I mean, again, I feel like just from, just as a young guy in a game, I, of course, try to, I like to watch the, the greats the game. I like to watch guys like, the weight worth, of course, you know, a really Anderson, you know, he played on the right side, but again, I think continuing to watch the greats that played the game just can take the dominate for those guys from me to be able to talk to them again to be able to learn from their story and their journey and how they developed. Of course, I understand I want to create a, I want my game to be able to be like, there's an a way to where it's talked about in a way of like, that's a guy you need to watch just to watch with, you know, the fight that he played with, the finish that he played with, and the technique he played with, because those guys played almost 20 years, you know what I mean? So, and again, I think that's something when you watch the guys, though,

2:54:47the legendary guys come before, yeah, you know, they're strong and they're tough guys, but, you know, I don't know, but when you're like 36, 37 years old, you're probably not that strong. Not as strong as you used to, but that technique and just the skill set, that's something that I admire. You mentioned earlier about the guys going out to UCLA and kind of getting over the heat. I'm curious, when you're working out here, do you do anything outside or do you avoid it altogether right now? I don't know, I'm always outside. I'm always outside. I don't mind the heat. I love the heat, and honestly for me, it helps I'm off like 30-20, so I kind of warm up quickly. So, it's kind of nice for my warm up. I don't have to be doing like 30 minute warm up. You know, you kind of just be outside long enough, go like this, and your joints are on go. So, I actually, I like you a lot. Going back to the players that have been in the league for a while, Kelvin Beachham is one of those guys that's been in the league for a decade plus. What have you been able to learn from him?

2:55:47I think, again, just learning how to be a pro in terms of certain things, like for example, I'm a guy that when I like to train by myself, I'll just take a thousand reps of a set, a thousand reps of a reach block. I'm a rep, rep, rep, rep, and type, I've done a hundred times and I wrote perfect, and some of that beach is like talking about in terms of being a pro. I thought to me, that's me being a pro, as a young guy, I pick up a lot of, I reps my body, so I'm going to take a lot of reps and preparation, but Beach is a guy where it's like, it's not about necessarily the quantity in terms of its really through the quality, but even more so, he's like, you know, you're off season, you don't got to be doing something like this every single day, but when you do it, from your first rep, even your first rep, it's not like you're, I'm taking this rep, oh, it wasn't good, because it's going to be better on the second one, like each rep, even when you're by yourself, is just kind of, I guess a mindset, I just gave yourself 15 reps instead of doing 60 reps, and I sounds like a huge difference,

2:56:47but to me, I don't mind taking 60 reps from by myself, and there's nobody, that's waiting around on me, and I'm by myself, I can, I'll take my time, and I'll do that, but just being like, I'm going to do 15 perfect reps, and I'm just going to slow down and take all my time, stuff like that, that way your body, that way you're not, you're not, you're not doing too much before, can't, you know. Many of the guys that left guard in the mix were here last year, except for Evan. How does that relationship with L through out, in the long season? Yeah, I mean, so honestly, I like, that's my guy, we like to compete, we've been competing in the weight room, since day one in terms of just like, what we consider like athletic competitions, so like even in the weight room, I'm at the very end of the week when we're done lifting, I'll talk to Evan, I'll be at an outer stand, it will just do some sort of competition, whether it's grip or whether it's jump or whether it's pull ups or something, and I don't let him wave until I beat him in all these two things, like so if we do, if we do a jump thing, and like I always thought was the best kind of,

2:57:51I had the most height when I jumped out of O-line, I could dominate anybody in that, but he beat me in that, surprising, so I was alright, and then we're hopping on the bike, and then we did this bike thing, I beat him on the bike, and now we're doing pull ups, so I beat him on a personal kid, and now we can leave. You know what I mean? But we just have that, that, and we're just always just competing, and then again, obviously he wasn't on the team with us last year, but I think what he brings at the table with being a vet is that he's like a plug and play guy. He knows, he's been in those snares before, he's played with guys like Penae when he was with Detroit, so obviously he's just being able to talk to him and how this is how it was when I was setting with Penae, this is how it was, and I was saying to Siahawks, these are the different things that I can do that mirrored some things, like in your game how you set, and I'll talk to him about what I like to do in certain scenarios, and how his set can sort of match that, because that makes sense, so I think he adds a lot. What's the longest you've stayed after until you've even...

2:58:53Pshh. To the point where a string of coaches are like, you guys gotta go. You guys should go, you know, we're not trying to break any rules around here, but you know, but it's just me and him just going, and he loves it, you know, so and even us starting to do it, we started to get other guys in the O'Line that tried to hop in on our competition for fun, but only matters what be Evan, it's just fun, I'm just beating you, you know. So it was fun. The Ocean Delights Us as playful otters restore coastal kill for us. The Ocean teaches us how our choices impact even the deepest places. The Ocean connects us. Visit monorebeacquarium.org slash connects. CalShi's own CEO says it himself. And he has two thirds of people on CalShi lose money. So what does it take to be in the other third? You have to do extensive amount of research to be good.

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3:00:54It's more of a span. But yeah, I mean it. The things that Coach Day does in his offense and I felt the Ryan does. I feel like really fit my title. I'm a nice player. You know, where I was coming from in case of date it was a very long heavy offense. Especially for everyone. Which I was very happy to do and didn't do anything. I'm excited here. I feel like it's more of a... I can be that pocket passer and also use my legs when I need to. But you know, I feel like my strength is doing my own thing. But I also feel like I can do really good things. I can obviously be in the quarterback. You need to make those plays. I'm not going to need them. How much do you support you? If you see the field pass you're out. How much do you support you? If you see the field pass you're out. You're out. You have to be in that field. How much do you support you? If you see the field pass you're out. If you see the field pass you're out. You have to be in that field. Oh it had a huge impact on it.

3:01:55I love my guys at K-State and I have nothing bad to say about them. I mean the talent here is unbelievable. Just being around the guys. And the thing that's impressed me the most about, especially the receiver room, is how it's driven, how much they want to work. I don't have to go out there and beg these guys to go catch. And they're already out here catching on the jugs when I come out the truck. And how it's like, they're incredibly hardworking just all across the room. We got dudes like Carl Nell and Brandon Ernest and obviously Mecca and all those guys. I mean, that's just the, that's just the ice cream. There's so much talent in that room. Being able to throw the guys like that makes my god a lot easier. First of all, you're a jerk about a skit. Dude, he's a dude, man. I haven't gotten to talk to him that much yet, just because we've been in different groups, lifting and stuff. But man, he's a specimen. I mean, that dude is a freak show. I mean, he's a physical.

3:02:56I mean, he is, I'm excited to see him on the field and invite him to be able to come. I feel like the resounding thing that I heard from, from these NFL guys and from people around the league was need to play more. And we need to see more high level players. And I feel like, you know, I played a lot of football in my time at K-State, but, you know, I only had one year where I was really the true starter. And where I played, you know, the whole year. The most part I was a backup filling in. And I felt like, you know, there's a bunch of statistics and things that they look at. You know, I was on the very lowest end of like, you know, the amount of yards that you're supposed to throw for. You know, you look at the success stories versus the failure stories. And there was just so many signs of appointing to coming back.

3:03:57And really in my heart, and that was at the end of the day. I mean, it was up to me, it was my gut. And I felt like I just wasn't ready to leave college yet. I go for a more, I want to go for a competition. Absolutely. And I mean, the biggest thing was I felt like I could come compete at a one in the national team. And that above anything else was one of the most important things. And I felt like I just had more I wanted to accomplish my college and I wasn't feeling yet. And that was I think what really drew me here. Obviously, you know, getting to the next level and, you know, playing in an offense like this, I think it's really going to prepare me for that next level and give me the best shot. And that's all I just really shoulder on the cake, you know, for me. Yeah, I mean, we definitely talked about it.

3:05:04You know, we're all here to compete and we're all here to, you know, hope the buck guys went. That's all we're here for. And that was, you know, that was made evident when I, you know, when I came on my visit. And you know, the thing that I'm the most fired up about is how good the dudes in the room are and how good they've been to me. You know, I they could have, you know, believe me, I've been in a situation where we brought him an older trans to get and, you know, they could have been, you know, mad and not taught me and helped me out. But I mean, Devon and Lincoln, the guys that have been around, they've really helped us a lot, especially us three new guys. You know, I know I'm older and I've done things, but still just learning a new system, learning, you know, how we do things, how we, you know, go about our business. Just everything's a little different. So I'm so thankful for those guys that they've just, I mean, they've helped me so much. Just getting, getting accustomed to, you know, being in this building. Really good dudes, really good kids and really talented too.

3:06:09I mean, they can both spin the ball really well. You know, they're young and they, you know, they know they got a lot to learn and so to why. I'm right there, you know, I think we're all trying to learn this together, even, you know, approach over high in a little bit and we're hitting the ground running. But, you know, it's exciting. Those two guys there are especially, especially in the care of the kids. It's hard to say. I would probably say the draft would have been my, you know, I was, I was talking to some other schools, you know, Miami and USC were in there in the mix. But it was really, I would say here in the draft at the end of it. You know, there was a lot of different things that went into it and it was a long hard process. But yeah, I would say, I mean, that was probably the most like it. I mean, I mean, I mean, nothing, nothing crazy, you know, it was just, I appreciate it.

3:07:23I'm not a fighter fan. Yeah, I appreciate it. Yeah, there you go, a little sidetrack. But, no, I, what was the question again? I'm sorry. Spider controversy. What's up? Yeah. How did that happen? Yeah, no, it was, I mean, it wasn't really anything crazy, I would say. You know, I just, you know, nothing really changed. It was really kind of, you know, they were kind of holding me off a little bit. So after that game, just in fairness, you know, I was, I was patient and waited my time and, you know, it all worked out. It comes to you, like, I know you just got to make the point. It's hard to tell. I don't really know. It was a whirlwind of a process. You know, I started hearing initially they might be interested, but I hadn't really heard

3:08:25anything directly. And then, you know, really getting in, like, I really started to feel that interest. You're a big part of the change coming. Good core data. A little bit. Yeah, I kind of figured that. I didn't know for sure, but he kind of hinted at it. You know, his point was, you know, it's in the best interest to him and the team. I was all in. I completely understood, you know, the decision and why he did it. You're probably thinking, what was this defense about your team? I was just thinking, yeah, I mean, there were a lot of things that were said, you know, a lot of things that, you know, were attracted to me about this offense and about what he kind of thought about my game and how he thought he could, you know, elevate me to where I wanted to be. And you know, I feel like one of the biggest things was how pro style be offensive.

3:09:28And, you know, a lot of these other schools that I was looking at, you know, maybe these aerate-type schools. You know, they got great offenses. And, you know, I just put up a lot of numbers, but I don't know how much that was developed in the NFL. And I'm playing in a system that Coach O'Brien uses in the States, how much? How much better can you prepare for the NFL than with somebody who's coach at a head coach level and an important head level at the NFL? You know, there's just all the things pointed to it.

3:10:29I know I took a couple of days off after the National Championship and then, shoot, right after that, I'm writing sample Florida and I'm writing to it. And so, yeah, I think while I trained, I trained at your birth performance. I think it's called the House of Athlete or the Compound now. They did a good job, man. They're just bringing us in and the way they went about training us, man, they did a really good job. The Bucking Nears, no, I haven't. Tampa, Tampa, nice. This is a nice city, man. Really nice. The 40, the broad and the vert. Yeah. Yeah, no, man. It's really all about technique. And then it's about mindset as well.

3:11:30And so, I say, you know, it's for the love of my brother. It's for the love of Will Howard. It's for the love of the receivers who I got on the perimeter. Just making sure, you know, first of all, my quarterback doesn't get sacked. And I told Will, I think it was before the first game. I was like, I got your brother. It's, I said, man, I'm not going to let you get hit, you know. And so, I don't know if I gave up a sack. I'm not sure that, but I know if I did, I haven't given up too many. And so, man, it's for the love of my brothers, though, man. Making sure that the ball get in their hands, you know, the guys on the outside and making sure they get fed. You had to hit the practice field later today. What is something you've been working on right now in the game? In my game. You can't really work on this, you know, in all season, I feel like it's more so, you know, you got to put the pads on. You got to go through some inside run, you know, maybe. It's really just continuing run through tackles. And so, that's, I feel like that's one of the areas in my game. You know, I want to continue to get better at it. I feel like I did a good job of that my senior year. So, I just want to continue to build on that. So, you know what I'm saying?

3:12:31Yes, I did. Yes, I did. So, people say you look like a little bit more out there. You get back in nursing. I can better look at the ball. I did meet with New Orleans as well. I never got that comparison. Actually, I know I have a Camera shoe. Yeah, man, I have a Camera great, great back, man. Just what he does and knows, one on one matchups, he's dangerous, man. And he's so smooth. He's so smooth as well. I'm not going to lie. He's smooth. Yeah. Inside zone from stack, being able to hit that thing downhill. And I say the next one is probably just an option out of the backfield. You know, a man and man coverage, you're getting on that linebacker. And so. Yeah, I say the man, the biggest thing is the way that he carries himself, man, and

3:13:34the way that man, he approaches the game. He comes in with the mindset, you know, he's going to work every single week, you know, every practice, you know, he's working hard, you know, even shoot. I don't know, every good, I think he had it. Every game was a good game for him, man. And so, but still, man, he always has the mentality to mindset that, you know, he's going to come in each and every day, he's going to continue to work and get better, man. And so he's definitely man, he's going to be a special player, man. He really is. I think he looks like Darius, you know, last year, when we were on StarCade, you know, some industries, I think it's a matchup, but it was back when it went to the stand-top level. Man, a lot of ups and downs, man, it's just how you respond to adversity. And I feel like that's something that God has definitely helped me to do better. Is this, I'm not having something to lean on now, you know, I remember before I met him, you know, going through those adversity, I had nothing to run to, you know, you can run to people, but they still can't, it's not too much, they can't truly help you. You know, I feel like, you know, I feel like the only person that can truly help you is your relationship with Jesus Christ. And so, being able to lean on him, you know, he gives you, in those moments where it's

3:14:38tough, you know, where it's slow. And when you're behind the scenes and you're going through things that people don't know about, he gives you that peace and comfort, you know, even in those moments, man, where it's so hard that you can't explain, it's like, man, I'm going through this, but like, how am I still filled with this internal joy? You know, how do I have so much peace in this situation? And so, that's something that only Jesus Christ can give you. And so... The back of the firm, Peterson Power and Judgment, what aspect do you do to those other individuals that you run to, and from being around power to God? Man, those guys have such a great mentality, man. I just really love their mentality, especially Q as well. You know, I talked about Will Howard, his leadership, but Quincham mentality, man, that boy just, yeah, that boy just gifted, you know, you see, you know, sometimes he put in a situation where he looked like, you know, he should have a negative five yards, and as soon as you know it, you know, he, that running through somebody, stiff arm and somebody,

3:15:41and shoot, it's a game of 10. And so... I think it's just like, he's just gifted, man, to be honest. He's just gifted, you know, he's a big back, you know, he's strong. So, you know, he's able to do those things. And so, yeah, man, it's definitely, you know, I look at his game, and I want to, you know, at the same time, I want to learn from Quincham, you know, I want to look at his game, it's like, man, where can I get better at as well? You know, that's the type of player I am. I'm always looking to get better, man, I'm always looking to grow as a player. Julian Sand, oh yeah, he's going to be a great, but he's going to be a great quarterback, man, he's so, so accurate. And so, he's definitely, man, I know Coach Dez is definitely going to get him right, because, you know, continuing to grow as a leader, continuing to grow as a player. And so, he's going to be really good for a high state. He's, I know just the quarterback position, I feel like, you know, the quarterbacks in the past, they've definitely been vocal.

3:16:42And so, I feel like that's something that they're definitely going to ask Julian Sand as well, is to be that vocal leader and lead the offense and lead the team. Thanks, thanks. Shoot, man, he has, he has a build like JK Dobbins, and I kind of see them, you know, similarities in their game as well. And I know JK Dobbins, he was a great running back. I feel like he's not talked about his none. A lot, but man, his career here, you watch his highlights is great. I remember before I recruit, before I committed here, I remember watching JK Dobbins highlights, like every, every one of his years here, like four or five times. And so, man, he was such a great back. And I feel like, you know, when I see JK Dobbins, when I see James people, I see similarities to both of their games. I feel like they play the same. And so, appreciate you all, you have to go.

3:19:16So, you know, go out there and just present my best self here, man, it makes me a better person. I have talked to the chiefs. It was a great conversation. I mean, these guys, I mean, they have a lot of good, de-line talent there. So, having guys there, I mean, they feel like I could fit in very well. I mean, people have guys who pull me in, who really help me out, and allow me to really get in their fist system and fit in there and be a good player there. You talk to them, talk to them, watch Cam Hayward, and watch Cam Hayward. Oh, yeah, Chris Jones, I mean, that guy's amazing. Be able to explore the way he did in the past few years, man. He's great. I mean, that guy's practically unblockable. He's been watching him a little bit. I mean, the way he uses his hands, I mean, he doesn't allow people to touch him.

3:20:17Oh, yeah. So, I always hear a favorite game or a memory involvement in this past season. Definitely win the national championship. I mean, there's no better feeling than that to be able to go out there. I mean, when a whole bunch of guys you grew up with for the past five years, I mean, see us really pull through out there, hitting a couple of bumps in the road and be able to really exert ourselves and really make it all the way to the national championship, one at all, man. It's a great feeling. You feel like a sun, isn't it? Like, what's it feeling? Oh, yeah, since being off the team now, definitely sunken now that we really won the national championship. It's going to sink any more. We'll be able to see the rings that we got. We can get here in probably the next month. So, yeah. What's really seen Jay-Z in the draft gets so close, like they have in the season here? I mean, it's nice. I mean, especially they mean to have the entire defense line here at the combat. I mean, it's amazing. I mean, it's not too many times you get not too many teams to be able to have that. It just shows the elite level that we have and that they have been at Ohio State. It just shows how great we are and how great we can be. It felt like a whirlwind going from the play to championship game in a month ago. Now you're here.

3:21:18Oh, yeah. I mean, it feels like I'm still playing for a Ohio State, but it's like I'm not playing anymore. So it's kind of weird trying to get to Justin point down, stepping into a new chapter in my life. So just being relaxed, calm, and being just walking there and being myself. Are you planning to work out tomorrow? Oh, yeah. I'll be doing the drills. That's about it. How much time have you had? How many of you taking off for yourself? We had a week. A week after the game, and after that, I flew straight to California with Roger Trainer. You mentioned it. It's like you feel you're still playing for Ohio State. When you've been there for five years, like how hard is it to like pull away from that and not be apart? Yeah, it was definitely hard the first couple of weeks. I mean, trying to, it was definitely a slower pace. I mean, being in Ohio State, everything was up temple, up beat. Everything was hard work. I mean, you're doing group activities all the time. It's hard to be able to adjust to be more of a calm setting. I mean, you're doing a lot of things on your own when you get in a NFL. It's not you're not guided anywhere. So you got to be able to adjust to that. And that's probably the biggest thing. How well do you feel like that here at the New York State level?

3:22:18I don't know. I'm trying to go for a whole lot of things. I'd like to say that Ohio State is the best of preparing. I mean, you can see player after player going to the NFL. I mean, it just means one of the best players because it's the way Ohio State and the system that they had. I mean, they did things in an excellent way to prepare you for the league. And this is, it's why I'm grateful to be able to go to that school. I think it's not about going to line up next time. I don't feel it's about those defense lines. We're talking about next season. It's been a part of the year of your journey. Yeah, it's kind of sad. Obviously, I wish we could have even just one of them be with me and make it even a better experience being there. I mean, a lot of questions they like to ask is like, who would you bring with you? I mean, of course, is here anyone in my D-Liaman, bringing those guys with me. So it's definitely going to be different. But I mean, there's a lot of great talent on these teams, a lot of great D-Liaman in there. So I love to learn from other people, learn from them and be able to grow from them. Do you and Cactel, on Sorrento and Sunny, they have the carrier of Pickering to your turn, huh? Oh, yeah, of course. I mean, I like to say all the time, man. The Columbus fan brings it to a high-alt statement as the best player.

3:23:18So it's been being there and being still representing Pickering to the mean. We got a lot of good guys still on Pickering to that, still in high school. We get to get there. So them representing, it's great. Time for me was talking about the Sunny being a potential for the walk-on and champion of the D-Liaman. What does the captain for the team work with you? Where have you seen Sunny kind of grow as a leader and what do you think about the new world that we're getting as much as you see? Oh, yeah. I think that just the leadership off the field made it so much better. I mean, from a guy who started off as a safety, moving the linebacker. I mean, it was a natural adjustment for him. He made no complaints to none of that. He just came in and worked, and it kind of like me. We just worked as hard as he could every single day. Just learned to play a book. You can see the leadership on the field when he's out there calling the plays with confidence and being out there. It's important to team, man. His team is probably behind him. You see him for a bunch of cold sports. It's interesting. I mean, I have no comments on him. I want nothing but the best for him, but the being. The ocean moves us, surfing a wave or savoring the view. The ocean delights us as playful otters restore coastal calp forest. The ocean connects us.

3:24:19Visit monoraybeacquarium.org slash connects. CalSheezone CEO says it himself. Any of the few thirds of people on CalSheez lose money. So what does it take to be in the other third? You have to do extensive amount of research to be good. There are people that spend copious amount of money, time, resources, energy. They've dedicated their lives to basically becoming good at it. All that and still. Any of the two thirds of people on CalSheez lose money. That's CalSheez, in their own CEO's words. Go to www.fairpredics.com to learn more. That's been state so I mean, it's not for the best form. What do you see emerging as a leader on that deep-petsing line? I think I see you. Kiyah Jackson, I feel like this role of me, I talked to him. He definitely wants to step up. You stepping up this year. I mean, he's played a good amount of time last year. I feel like him being able to go out there and really step up and be a leader for the team. That's something you can do, especially with the talent that he has. What are you up to, Sheryl? What do you got pads on, stuff like that being a special interior guy?

3:25:22You really don't get to see me run. You know, to go out there and really run and be able to see my movement, be able to see my men and my ability to move around. Definitely surprised a couple coaches. Who was the most pivotal moment that the season could you guys? As hard as it is to say being a loser team up north of me. And that was kind of like the pivotal role that really hit the whole team in the face. And allowed us to really kick the fire in the neafens and be able to play with our best abilities. That we knew we had since the beginning of the season. And much of it hurts to lose. And kind of set the tone for the rest of the team and you see how we dominated teams in the playoffs. So people talked about that meeting. Did your opinion of Friday change or how did it change after that meeting knowing that he's the coach sitting there taking the run? Feedback. Yeah, I mean, I didn't change at all. That's all it should be. I mean, being a coach there, I mean, he's up front and he's going to tell you everything. He takes criticism and that's just something that being a man to be able to drop your ego and take criticism. And that makes him even better coach. And I mean, not a lot of coaches can do that.

3:26:22So it makes him better days here for his team. He's not just trying to be the head coach. He wants to be for his team. So I appreciate him for that. How do you want to have your team to come up with the comments you want to make? How much does that still bother you? Is that kind of a few for a long time? Of course. I mean, the whole goal going to a house that you want to be the team of North. I mean, especially with my brother, he's never lost to him. So it's kind of like a flag and rights to the dinner table. But I mean, the other day, he won a national championship. So that's something I get to carry on for rest of my life. You mentioned being able to surprise him. You mean, feel like you're a little bit overlooked just because of how much you've had around you after that? We had a lot of good guys. I mean, that's what comes to being on a holiday. And you got to tell him everywhere. So I mean, just being able to just be myself and just be able to show people who I am. And that's what I'm here for. So I'm just going to do everything impossible to be able to prove to the people that support me, right? Where do you see yourself? Are you going to stick it? No, do you want to be a free tag? Like, what do you think you put your foot back?

3:27:24I want to be versatile. I want to be like, I can play a little bit of a three-take play nose guard anywhere on the inside. I feel like I can play maybe even a little outside with nose. So just being able to be versatile, I feel like playing on a holiday. We were allowed to move around a little bit and allow me to show my talent. So being able to be versatile and play anywhere allows me to be a better player in the league. You mentioned kicking out of it. What are people going to see for him this year? They're going to see it more developed player. I feel like this year is kind of the set and stone of him being able to take over the role of being a defense in out of a holiday. So I feel like he has all the talents, all the skillset to be able to go out there and be one of the best deans to come out of a holiday. So it's up to him to be a just honing on a leadership and be able to be the best player you can and lead others to be just like him. What do you feel like you're the best match for you? You're going to run for the whole time. I obviously just being able to shut down the run. I mean, I feel like I pride myself in my run game and not being blocked by a single person. So I'll be this be able to go in there and be able to be a lead run stopper, but also be able to go on on third down as well and be able to show my past rush. I mean, go out there and do the best I can. So I didn't really get to do what I always said.

3:28:25How much do you feel like you grew as a past rusher out of Ohio State? Where do you feel like you've used the role of that right now? Yeah, I mean, I feel like power is always my go to a past rusher. I feel like it worked to me. We didn't really get the rusher as much of the Ohio State, but at times I did get the rusher to show me. I mean, my skillset allowed me to move guys out the way and make sacks and me in some good. I mean, I feel like obviously you always need something to work on a past rusher. There's different moves that come off of it like finesse moves, any type of chops and stuff like that. Just to work on those and finishing sacks or something like a work on. What do you think of the biggest lessons you'll take from Larry Johnson with you to me? Honestly, just focus on little things. I mean, technique is critical when it comes to defeating a block or getting blocked. So I mean, just honing on those small techniques to always make sure that I'm critiquing myself in the best way possible and not getting complacent. I don't think we got who the other two of your guys are expecting so much. We got guys like Edrick in there, Jason Moore, Ty Worm alone. I mean, the younger freshmen in there, I feel like everybody can step up. I mean, those are guys that have played a little bit last year.

3:29:26I feel like having every position vacant in me and that allows for competition. So being able to those guys to step up and really prove themselves so they can play at a elite level is going to be something I'm looking forward to see. I want for you to leave that room in a way that they are prepared to step up. It's super important. I mean, I feel like that was a whole goal as leaders to be able to just elevate the younger guys and allow them. So when we leave that, they can carry the torch. So I feel like to say, so everybody moves up from back seats to the front seats. So I feel like we give them the possibility to be able to move up to the front seats and be ready for every challenge that's done at them. I think JT said there would be another 15 buck eyes here next year. Yeah. You're prediction on a number? I have no idea. I mean, I think there would be a lot of guys. I mean, we like a lot of good town, a lot of young guys. I mean, who knows? What do you think it would mean for this group of guys that's here to retire, break the record of one school, then draft it in a draft? Yeah. Yeah. It would mean a lot, honestly.

3:30:27I mean, these guys work hard. I mean, being in a hallstay, you got a lot of great guys there. I mean, guys we showed and our film shows, man. I mean, this is probably one of the more complete teams that we had in college football. So I feel like the scouts understand, I mean, coaches understand that, how good are guys we have? And then, not only do we have good on the field, man, great character guys, man. So yeah. How good is something for you, Mark? Oh, he was great, man. I mean, being able to come from Bama and build a jump on a hallstay, you feel like you played on for him the whole time. I mean, this guy was a great guy and not only off the field, but on the field as well. I mean, he was very technical-sounding, man. He had a great technique because it's hard to get around him in practice. I mean, definitely showed in games. So he's a great guy. I appreciate him. Yeah, we play it by ear. You know what I mean? We see how it goes by time we get in the camp, but you know, obviously he's earning his stripes. So, you know what I mean? When you earn your stripes, you know, the hard job to create opportunities for you. You know what I mean? We have to see how it goes with all the other stuff.

3:31:29You know, once we get closer to the season, and we're getting the game plan stuff, but he's doing a great job and he's taking a great step forward. Tim, when you're the way that you can build the room, or the way you kind of just have a sure room now, it seems like it's been like, sonopies, kind of relations, and kind of building bonds. I'm curious, is that something that you came in with the, like a couple years ago, with the intention of doing it, or is it something that you're like, that's kind of been cultivated over the course of your Thomas position, both here and the guys? No, it's been there for a while. I've been doing that for a long time. It's all about relationship. If you develop real relationship and you're authentic in your communication, and you have honest feedback, and you have direct teaching, the guys that have a value and character, and they appreciate that stuff, they're embrace that. But they have to know you care, and you have to know that it's real, and they have to know that you're really concerned about there. We're being as a young man, and when you get close to them, it's been a lot of time with them off the field. You could coach them hard, and you can say truthful things to them, and then they'll embrace it, and you have real conversation, because you know,

3:32:29the only goal is to help them get better as a young man. As you see, computers go, and you think those are the most known ones. The receiver room is so far ahead of the border, we've got to kind of skew that evaluation sometimes. How's that dynamic change in these two years? Is this group shot in Boulder, and you can be better? Yeah, it's done balanced up a little bit now. That goes with great competition. We go against the best receivers in college football. So that helps escalate your growth process, because if you don't figure it out real fast, you're getting embarrassed. So that competition, but what happened with that, I guys start competing, I guys start growing, I guys got better, and now it's even up a little bit. So where you get really good work at practice today, you know what I mean? So as competitive, it's fun. Those guys both on both sides of the ball care about each other. So it's great competition, and they all are real close. So you know what I mean? It's that stuff that gets us better, that will prepare us for Saturday. I think that's the same idea. The first day of practice, actually, the receivers kind of got them, because I didn't kind of make a poll, maybe if you missed it, it's not perfect.

3:33:29No, it's just competitive, man. They got the best group in the country that you're going to get every day. So you have to bring it every day, you know what I mean? So we got a great quarterback room, we got a great receiver room. The running backs are really good, so when you out there going against them is deep. So you have to be ready for it. And obviously, man, we seeing a lot of good stuff with Wednesday and Coach Kelly doing over there. And so it prepares you a lot, and it helps us grow. So why don't you go to your room, play kind of an exhaustive for three and three? What's that? It's your room, kind of, a part of your room. These are the guys you get to play. Yeah, all that's because you know, that's where you get better. Our shop is iron. So you know, you get to see that every day of practice that helps you grow. It's no better thing to go against every day than to see that on a daily basis. I'm also near room massage. Jordan, you're looking at to play that. We just moving a lot of guys around. We watch our practice. We have a lot of guys in there right now. You know, we pop up through a four different guys in there. Obviously, Lorenzo's in there, Jameen is in there.

3:34:31Caleb, Miles, we have about four or five guys moving around. Right now, we just try things out in spring ball. See what it fit. You know, see what things work together. So it's going to probably be some more guys in there. You know, we move it around to try to just get the right fit throughout the N and C. How it goes by time we get really start the season. He can run any strong. You know what I mean? He's fast. Very serious about his business. He's big. He's 200 pounds. He can run. He's strong. He's conscientious. You know what I mean? He's starting to grow and he's starting to get better with it. You know what I mean? So we look for big things for him in spring. What do you want to see from him in spring? Keep competing. You know what I mean? Now he's made the transition competing today. You know what I mean? Start going in. That transition is all just like I'm in your main last year. You throw him in the fire. You let him go. You compete. You go by time we get out of the end of training camp. You'll be them figured out. Yeah, I want that. But now you just throw it all at him. Compete. Continue to grow. Continue to learn. He has the skill set. He has to length. Now you just got to put it all together. And it takes time to do that.

3:35:31And hopefully you see that by the time we get in the training camp. It seems like you're spending kind of click for your main last year. And you start to see and perform a little better in practice. Is that like a benchmark for where you want your parents to be? The middle of spring because you have to be in a certain point where you want it to start clicking. Yeah, by the time you start getting about two weeks from now, that last week. You know, because it takes time because there's a lot of stuff going on. But you know, by the time you get into that last week of spring ball, you'll start seeing the things that you look for show up. And then you know, you get another evaluation again. We'll get in the training camp. See if this stuff carried on to make sure we good for starting in September. What's your assessment of growth that you've made now that he's kind of got his feet under one defense? What do you like about him and that thing? He's very conscientious. He's smart. He can run. He's tough. He's made the adjustment because he's out of Europe on his belt. So now you can see he's not making a lot of mistakes. He competes. He's real conscientious. And he has a physical presence. So the growth has been really good and we look to continue that throughout spring.

3:36:31Coach, that's very much. I can ask one more. All the guys that came back like Denzel, the great example. That surprised you as you reflect on all these guys that came back late in the race. And they could have turned pro. No, the culture here is real. Coach, they does a great job of building the culture. Our room is close knit. The guys on defense are real close. Those guys want to come back. They have an agenda. You know, we want to come back. They want to come back and walk away. And walk away with something. So it didn't shock me. But it's a good environment for them too. You know what I mean? That's when you see those guys come back. That's a testimony to the culture that's set here. The brotherhood, the environment. And of course, they run the program for those who want to come back. Because we go at it. It's hard. It's not easy. It's not easy. But what we do. So, in fact, they come back and do that. It's a testament to how he runs the program. Coach, thank you very much. Yeah. What's the conversations like that? Like that? Do you make an effort to position the opponent? Like making that transition? I mean, there was already a little talk about playing some linebacker. Like with the world season, even.

3:37:32I was already like kind of like, wasn't really learning it. I know it was teaching me, but I was getting the low line back a little bit. Just because I knew I probably wouldn't play linebacker at some point. So then like, obviously when Downs game here is like, all right, so where can I help the defense the most? You know what I'm saying? And we're trying to get our best level on the field. We're going to help the deepest the most. So that's what kind of conversation was. And yeah, I just want to do whatever I can, whatever the defense need me, wherever I can impact most, that's kind of the conversation. What's been the most difficult thing about making that transition? It's less time in space. So less waste of movement. When you find that safe, you can kind of a little more waste move with your feet. You can take longer strides, you know, linebacks will let everything short. Choppy, heat-stained power, keep your base. So I mean, that's just something like every line progress to work on honestly. But yeah, that's kind of been a big thing. But there's a lot of things to work on obviously. Why is it that you and the staff decided that my bad marks were you going to happen to? I think my capability, what I'm capable of,

3:38:34and then like the personnel we have, like I said, we're going to try and get the best level on the field, wherever that may be. So you're still trying to turn that up. Just the point that the conversation was about you may have been hard for you to keep your weight down to stays. Do you look bigger? How much have you changed physically? Are you allowed to just like finally eat now? I mean last year I was eating regular like I was like 2.30 to 2.35 the whole year last year. I don't know if people thought I was 2.25, but I was like 2.35 sometimes last year. So it's not really like anything changed. You know, obviously I'm a graduate of the game some more weight. You know, I'm listening heavier weight. It was different training to be a DB, the training to be a linebacker. So you come gradually getting a little bigger. Are you embracing that different kind of training? Yeah, I love it. I love to be with the linebackers. I think with the DBs, like sometimes in the way, especially in the way where I'm like I was expecting to win. So like when I won, I was like, oh, it's anyone. But that was the linebacker now.

3:39:35It's like it's more of a composition. You know what I'm saying? Not like not any hits of the DBs. I'm 2.30 going against someone who's 2.05. I've been observing them. I'm expecting to win. So I love the composition aspect of it. Yeah, Cody said you came in and was like, well, he's already bigger than most of the linebackers. Are you playing Will and Sam? How was the position? I've been working on both, yes. Is there any, like, fundamental difference between the two in terms of boxing? So Sam's in the world. I mean, obviously, Sam, you're more outside the box. Outside my backer overhang. You walked up on the edge on the tight end. Will's more inside the box. I think the biggest difference from Sam and Will, Sam, you just got to be more outside sometimes during the slot with two. But I think it's similar concept. Because you just do the same thing in the boundary. It's almost more like the same just in the field in the Will's at the boundary. So I think it's pretty similar, honestly. The only difference is that Sam, last year, I never really was an interior run fitter like in the A gap, going A to B or whatever that might be. So that's a little different.

3:40:36But I mean, I think I got some of that experience at safety just from a few yards back. So like I said, the only difference really is now just suggesting the less time. Yeah, Coach, how's it coming from where you're coming from? You have a better perspective of what's going on. Because you played safe. Yeah, yeah. I feel like I have a great understanding of the defense. I think at safety, I kind of already knew what the linebacks were doing. So now what I'm really starting to learn is like exactly like every little detail of what the line's doing. That's not really what I didn't know every little aspect of it. I think I'm starting to learn that now because obviously the linebacker got to be knowing that more. So I think when it's all said, I think we have a really, really good understanding of defense and knowing exactly what everyone's doing. Do you feel like you're long enough to remember the mix of the defense too? Is that linebacker's having a sudden hit because you can be dropped in one minute, pass-reson, that you or me, you can make some of that anyway. Yeah, I actually said that. I think you can say it would be in that linebacker in the play. You're almost in every play. Yeah. Obviously the play can run away from you. But you know, at safety sometimes you're just back there playing every guest.

3:41:37You take two back pedals and it's a tackle. So I think yeah, a linebacker you're in to play more. More opportunities to make tackles. Do you feel comfortable there? I mean, what does that, you know, obviously you're staying out like that? Yeah, I feel super comfortable with it. Like I said, I think it's just going to be adjustment. You know, obviously it's different playing from a five than it was from playing from my 10 last year. So I think it's an adjustment, but I'm super comfortable with it. So any of you talk to your dad and give you any advice on the new position? Oh, yeah, we watch, we watch, we watch the table all the time. Watch practice. You know, he was a high level linebacker. You know, I'm just getting started with this. He gets a little shit with little footwork and stuff like that. But it's good. I get good teaching him. You know, obviously coach Lord Knight is great player, great teacher for him, coach of goals. You know, he's a super smart football mind. So I'm getting great teaching all around. The linebacker, everything happens quicker for you. How much did the experience playing some of that sand stuff by your health? Um, I think it helped a little bit. It's been like in terms of physical like being in the box now down on the line.

3:42:38But I do think the the run fit as a will and the sand can be a little different. And like I said, like being into your fitter, like your 30 backer, when a you get pools, how you going to go spill it, so things like that. But I think I'm adjusting well. I think I'm picking up on stuff pretty fast. You know, this is going to be a lot of stuff to work on though. Do you feel more pressure talking to the media with your brother sitting right there? Not at all. What do you think has been the biggest change from five backer safety? Um, I think the biggest change will probably be that that's 10 to 5. Because it's a big adjustment because everything's happening faster and you got to react faster. And like I said, the waist and movements, I think footwork is huge. I think you see the great linebackers. As soon as the play happens, they're going. They're not taking any wasted steps or not fall stepping things like that. So I think wasting waste of movement and being able to see what's happening right back. It's been the big sped fitter between being on the same table with your brother.

3:43:39Um, I mean, you know, you got someone out there that's it's more than a team. You know, we call each other brothers, but you know, bloods, bloods a little thicker. So that's always pretty cool. You know, it's always it's never one on one. Yeah, but when he tells you something, he does what I've observed about you, you know, it's coming from. Yeah, I think when you're blood like that, I think he's not scared to tell me the truth, you know, thing. You know, obviously guys here, we have tough love, but I think it's always going to be a little different when it's your brother. Because he going to keep it 100% blood exactly what you need to hear and know what you want to hear. What's your advice on playing pickle? Oh, for him. Um, he just so I've let it go. He's keep trusting his instincts. I think he's going to be great. That I think what's huge for him is like I said, the athletic ability speed. You know, he blitzed off the edge. He's, he blitzed super fast. And he's just great in coverage too. So I think something really good. I think we'll do a lot of different things, kind of like you to a handcock.

3:44:39Obviously, a little different body than a handcock, but I think it's going to be really good. I want to settle in that field. He's neat. He's neat. It's time. Thank you. Temporary injury here that you know, we're hopefully getting them back here soon. Yeah, I know progress being made and you know, the biggest thing you try to figure out is when guys make mistakes. Did they learn from the mistake and move on from it? He's done that. He's I saw him flash today in special teams. So so that's good. That's positive, but. But yeah, I think the more guys are thrown into the fire. You kind of find out how they respond and and you know, a lot of the installs kind of in now. I think we'll still continue to install some things and look at some different schemes on both sides of the ball. But the next two weeks, it really an opportunity for guys to go compete. And he's going to be one of them because we're trying to build three deep in each position based on. You know, the way next year is going to be with the playoffs and everything like that. We know we're going to we used to say a pair in a spare. And now we need three at each position. So need to build depth at all positions.

3:45:41And so he'll he'll be somebody that'll be in the mix. Yep. Yeah, they were in the back field of bunch, especially like you said in the coming out period. You know, first time doing coming out a little. You know, too loose on offense. You know, we got to tighten that up. But you can see the quickness with some of those interior guys and you know, you see Caden and you see some of the movement that's going on in there. I think Jason Moore. I think Larry talked about that he's flashed and showing that he can do it. So, you know, and then also, you know, on the edge, you see Mitchell Melton getting the back field as a rush. You got a couple of sacks, I think today. So, you know, same thing. We're looking for for, you know, three, three guys at each position because all those guys are going to play. We're going to roll this year because we know it's going to be a long season.

3:46:43Yes. Yeah. Um, they get any time you have somebody who's as talented as both of those guys are, you know, you get excited about them, certainly in the recruiting process. But then when you have guys who have discipline and then skill like they do, that's when you have a chance to have a great player. I think both of them have discipline in their life. I think both of them have built up a skill package. Kaila Byrde has a year of college footballer is belt at a high level. So, you know, he's further along that way. But Jeremiah has really stepped in. You know, he got his black, black stripe off real quick. He's got a great approach. And, you know, I'm going to be careful what I say. But he's been certainly a pleasure to watch and we're all very excited about his future. If he continues on the path that he's on, he'd have a, he's going to play a lot of football and certainly would have a chance to start as well.

3:47:46Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I think you're seeing CJ play fast. You know, he really likes blitzing. You can tell he's quick in there. He's doing a nice job timing up the blitzes and another year under his belt of experience. Being in a room with Tommy Aikenberg, Seal Chambers, watching how they did it. Now he's doing it. But I think you're seeing the speed and the athleticism and the length between Cody, you know, Arvel, Sonny, CJ. You know, those guys are athletic, you know, gave powers. You know, all these guys are guys who they can blitz, they can cover, they can, you know, check defenses. They think they're doing a good job with that. James and Jim have both done a really good job of training them that way. So, excited about that group, you know, in their versatility. They're not where they need to be yet. You know, I'm glad we're not playing.

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3:49:48And then you see this progress we made. And it's starting to get into the heart of spring practice. And you know, kind of earned it there. Earned it there's rights. So we do it that way. And both of those guys deserve to get the best out of CalShe. Yeah. Yeah, I think the next row runner. I think you need him to play for this year. Same conversation. I have a lot of other positions. He's very quick in short areas. I think he does a nice job in the slot. I think he's in this match with a lot of guys in there because of his equipment. He's a very good row runner. For the quarterback, he's that excellent bodyguider. Understands, states really well. And I'll break this for everyone. So it's a challenge for him to be stronger. And play on contact. But if you could do that, the hell's that for me?

3:50:48Yeah. Well, I think all the runners that have run hard just for him. This is just a scene in some of the few that have a different scheme that we do. Not that they're not that different. But there's a little bit different. They think they're picking that up. They're, you know, a great job. And the leadership. It's just a challenge. I don't really know the job coming down. I hate Saturday. This is what we do. But it's great to see both games and, you know, coming in. Especially when picking up football. You see both of them have talent. It's going to be a better ball. And I think it's a good deal. I'd like to see the professional. I think it's a good talent for the country. I think it's a good deal. You know, the guy who's been very, very good. I think he's been a great boy. He's getting carried away. He's got a very good job. He's very disappointed in the approach.

3:51:49He's a guy that, you know, can really bring value for it. I felt like the seatbelt shrouded in a great deal. I think it's a good thing. I think the seatbelt is a positive thing. It's a good seatbelt. I think he's got a good way about having four years back there. So, you know, as, you know, we have different needs. We have different eyes. You know, right? You're not going to have to die.

3:52:49You're not going to have to use those three days. So, I think they're going to have to die. But, I think it's a good thing. I think it's a good progress. But I really like to see it take the next step. I think it's a good progress. But I really like to see it take the next step. Yeah, I just, I want to make sure we have, you know, a really good candidate. That's a really good conversation. Just want to make sure we get the right person in place. And definitely taking, you know, conversation, you know, and feedback from, you know, a lot of people in the program to make sure we have the right guy. Because you're right, like, right now, there isn't, you know, like, have to get it done right now because of recruiting. I feel like, you know, we should have somebody in place here by next week. And, final question. And, you know, he's finally healthy.

3:53:49And he's actually, you know, putting stack and practices together. So I think that's probably the biggest thing. Because I don't think, you know, he's been able to really show what he can do because he's had some, you know, injuries here and there. And, you know, he put on a lot of strength. And, you know, he's been able to show what he can do because he's had some, you know, injuries here and there. And, you know, he put on a lot of strength. And, you know, he put on a lot of strength and a lot of weight early on. And then had a few issues. But now he's healthy. So at least we're seeing, seeing him out there learning and growing and making some plays. So, you know, I think we're kind of halfway through and figure out how we great it out today. But at least we're making progress because he's getting on the field. And he's getting those reps under his belt. All right, guys, thanks. Yeah. Friends, guys, okay, and having a plan, right? What if it's not the look that I thought it was going to be now what? Where do my eyes need to be and how does that affect my decision? But constantly playing those games both on the field, but also I think it's just

3:54:51as important to play that in your head. You know, we talk to those guys all the time that we're laying around at bed and maybe watching some film and, you know, look at a clip and it'll be okay, what would I do here on this play? What would I do here on this play? And constantly challenging your mind to play with an imagination, even when we're not out there on the field doing it. It's an opportunity to grow up. It's an opportunity to get better and maybe somehow mentally I can put myself in that position. So if I do get a look that hadn't shown up on tape all year long, but they give us a different look on defense than maybe they've shown, I'm ready for that moment. What's that? Well, number one, you know, he's an ironbucker. So, which is pretty incredible. Obviously, we know that's a big deal around here. His work in the weight room was tremendous. So as an athlete, we've definitely seen that. And then, you know, on top of that, we've seen him grow as a leader. He's more vocal. His presence has felt, I think he's playing with a little bit of an edge to him, which is good to see. I think you have to play that position with a little bit of an edge without,

3:55:51you know, ever getting too high or too well. And that's contagious. So we're seeing that right now from Lincoln. And then, you know, as far as mechanically it goes, you know, we're definitely seeing Lincoln get the ball out quick. I think he's accurate. You know, I think that his base has improved. There's been, you know, a couple of things that in the spring, he was working on with his footwork. And we've seen some drastic improvements that way. Because he thinks specifically, you know that he's at the Black Jersey on a lot of things that blood system probably does. Taken away by going playing down at things like that. How do you see him as an athlete in that regard, while also not being able to see it as much on the practice field since he's not alive? Yeah, I mean, you know, you definitely can't see it to the full extent as though you go live. But we still see it, you know, we still see it. You know, there's times when he's extending plays or stepping up through the pocket and taking off and going and, you know, there's no question. Lincoln's a great athlete and that's got to be something that he plays through his strengths. You know, that's got to be something that his game has in it,

3:56:51which he's shown to do a great job of. You know, he's been a couple of places throughout spring where he's extended the play and kept his eyes on field and made some great throws. So, you know, that's, although we can't see that quite as well because we're not going live, there's still definitely a feeling for that. You can't even lower that at one point and it says, you're going to kind of show that things that do really well. How do you make sure that those guys are trying to win the competition on what they do well but also making them get out of their comfort zone so they're being thrust into positions that maybe they're not super comfortable with to show you guys what they can do with those things? Yeah, I mean, you know, as we script practice and we go through it, we try to be extremely detailed in the different reps that everyone's getting. And it's not like, you know, we would ever script a certain play on purpose because it fits someone's strengths better. You know, we want them to run the offense. You know, the offense is always going to adjust to the skill set of the players that are in the entire offense. But at the end of the day, you know, the offense is going to be the offense. So from a decision-making perspective, from a throw perspective,

3:57:51those guys are going out there and getting those reps and competing in it. So I assume this one training camp here, not really, they can enter into who's ahead. At what point do you need to start thinking that way? Are you just right now just here in the development? Yeah, right now we're just taking a day by day. And really, period by period on the field, meeting off the field. You know, and you know, the one thing that's pretty cool is those guys are very competitive and they push each other hard. And they're, you know, they're ultimately really good for each other because they both make each other uncomfortable because, you know, they're both very good players. You know, and Tavians right there with them, included in that mix. And above all of that, they're still friends. You know, I think what's pretty cool right now is just, you know, you walk into that quarterback room and you've got a bunch of really, really good guys that all get along well. And, you know, we're willing to help each other out and give each other pointers and tips of AC something and, you know, it's an enjoyable environment to be around every day.

3:58:53But ultimately, those guys are competing, you know. They're going out there and they're trying to win the job. And I think they realize that every moment is important and every period is important and they're going out there trying to get done. When you talk about the four points, when you talk about a quarterback getting the ball out quicker, how much of that is efficiency of mechanics and how much of that is mental? Like how quickly they see something to get the ball out faster? Definitely a combination of both. You know, I think when you look at a concept, you know, how quick can I process the information I'm getting from the defense? And the way that I can process that information quickly is where my eyes are, my eyes are the right spot. If I'm looking at the right thing and I can anticipate what that defender is going to do and make a decision and get the ball out, right? That's a major, major factor. And then there's also a piece of it, right? That comes down to the mechanics as well. But I think more than anything, you know, it's about making sure my eyes are in the right spot, making sure that I'm trusting what my read is and making sure that I'm getting the ball out

3:59:55and making a great decision with football. Coach, I still have a thank you very much. Thanks guys. It's not too hard for me to put it behind me. Stuff happening in life, stuff happening in the game that may not go our way, but just by responding and coming out here and having fun. So, when you see older players, you know, from previous generations in the game that you've had concussions and some of the struggles they're having in their older life, what are these specialists telling you to alleviate any concerns that you may have about the potential of having to deal with those same problems, those formless or currently dealing with them? Yeah, that's a great question. A lot of the information and a lot of things before, like during the time of those older players, are a lot different than the knowledge and information that we have now. And I mean, we're able to treat concussions. And also back then, it's like if you got a concussion, they were sending you right back into the game. So, now it's a lot different. We got a protocol and it gives your brain time to heal and everything.

4:00:57So, I think things are setting plays now where it's a lot better than before and that time where we're making problems later on. So, that's why I'm not really too concerned about it. Did you have any recommended to you? Say it again. Did you have any recommended by the trainer or Michael's dad? No, I just wanted to get into a new home. I mean, people have referred it. They also, during our team meeting, has said how there's a number of helmets that are better than other helmets right now. So, I just wanted to check those out and see what they are. Is this home-crushing any more severe than the others you had? No, and that's one of the other things. I'm not sure if it's a minor or a concussion is up here, but... No, it's not necessary, more severe. Each concussion, just what I learned, each concussion is its own specific concussion. And you gotta give that time to heal and then once that's healed and ready to go, once you get back out here, you're good. So, it's not like concussions are building on top of each other. Like, if you give it time to heal, but I think before, what guys were getting trouble with the long time, it goes like, they get a concussion, not fully healed and they go right back out there and playing.

4:01:58Can you just reflect on how you've grown since showing up here in fairly 21 to the player of person who are playing? Yeah, I've been here for a little while now. I've been enjoying every second of it. I always came in trying to be a captain and trying to lead these guys as best as I can. And I definitely feel that I've grown vocally and just trying to help build the team up and build myself up. So, I'm just trying to do anything I can to help this team. How about in a concussion situation like this? You're so close to reminding your brother. Do you have to sort of involve the family's decision behind that go? Yeah, definitely. They came down with me so when I was, I had, like, when the team was here doing meetings, I was driving up to a Pittsburgh meeting with the concussion specialist and everything. And they were with me and just easing their mind. That's the biggest thing. easing their mind. They're all, they're worried and everything, but they'll be okay. We saw the play with the Elijah Mollett or the head of the drawing. We saw the play at practice. Did you think you'd be out for two weeks after that?

4:02:59I mean, I was good pretty much. It was that day that I was kind of had a headache and everything, but I was pretty much good after that. But it was just about going through the protocol and I mean, there was no rush back. We weren't playing regular season games. So, I mean, I was just really getting the time to heal. It wasn't any rush. You go in and you're already in camp and still had a helmet to helmet. From your perspective, it has to be an expert. Are those doing what they're intended to do? You know, you cannot take, wearing it when he got there. You know, I'm saying, like, guys are still getting concussions and getting a grip wearing it. Yeah, it's definitely still a physical sport. So, I mean, concussion happened regardless. I know if you were in a guardian cap or not. I think it could be looked at too. I know and just talked about it on the guardian cap. I don't think in the back that it's much padding is I would like, but I feel it could be looked at. But I think you get a concussion whether you were in a guardian cap or not. So, I mean, stuff happens.

4:03:59This is a physical game. Sorry. Would you just clarify this? You said you're going to get any helmet. Also, wear the guardian cap during the game? No, I'm not going to. You feel good about this game helmet that you've been playing. Yeah. What's the name and the brand of helmet? Like any details you have? Oh, I'm not sure the brand of name yet. I have the get it from those guys inside. But you guys will definitely be seeing this on the... And how do you feel about not playing in a preseason game? You have to say you're career wearing this kind of big deal. I want to say it's not a big deal, but I don't feel any pressure any like, oh, I just needed to play in a preseason game. I feel that's a great opportunity for the younger guys to get out there and showcase what they're able to do. I still been practicing and playing and working out and getting ready for the season. So, I mean, I know the game. I'm looking forward to that first game. And I'm not really concerned about not being able to get a snap of the preseason game. Would you think of how MJ did feel in it, particularly during the joint practice? Is it against Jeff or something? Yeah, MJ is the number one corner. I mean, you guys see it.

4:04:59He's going to be big for us this year. And I think that's what's special about this team. We got three number one corners myself. MJ and Greg, I feel we all number ones. And we able to do different things out there on the field. And one guy is out. Another guy can step in and not lose track or not lose pace on what we got going on. MJ, how do you feel about MJ? I'm going to have a few more rows as a leader. If you play a year or three and you're trying to pick on this one, it has a guy that's bringing energy and also trying to bring it along. Yeah, definitely. Like you said, bring it in. That's exactly. Bring in energy. Bring in guys along. MJ is real vocal out there. And he competes as he's in competitor out there and just working hard. And trying to be the best. He got the mindset of wanting to be the best. And he is. So we just go out there and compete with one another. We have happy to see CD Lam get his contract signed and be ready to go out there. I play this game and face the back. No, I'm definitely happy for him. That's life changing. Contracting everything for him and his family. So definitely happy for him and looking forward to going to having that match up in the game. Always love going against the number one guys and best guys on that team.

4:06:00So I'll be looking forward to it. It tends to wake up more to history and concussions that we're talking about. I think when you suffer the latest one, people who cover the team and then fans are wondering how loud the discussion could you contemplate the tire and for that, ever go through your mind or do you immediately know that you're going to come back? Yeah, like I said, this is a game I love, man. I love playing this game. Being with the guys out here, I really don't see myself doing too much other stuff. Unless I'm just really physically unable to play this game. I don't see myself stepping away from football no time soon. Like I said before, I can't take it easy on these receivers out here. So me being out here, I got to give them a good look and just go out there and play. But I answered your question now. I haven't seen myself walking away though. Are you actually at a protocol now? Yes. Hey, did you know, Greg Culld Miles hardened the steal the drafts? What do you see? Say it again.

4:07:00Sorry, Greg Culld Miles hardened the steal the drafts. What have you seen from him over camp? And what kind of excites you about him? Yeah, Miles, he's been balling. He's been showing out, making plays against the Vikings. And just making plays out here. So it was big for him to make the team. I was happy for him. We all congratulate him. And he's going to be a big piece on our team. We're coming going forward. Dude, so often another rookie you mentioned making the receivers better. How have you made Jamari talk about how you've helped him as a rookie? What have you seen out of him in his development? Yeah, he's been looking good since he came in. I think he's been getting better and better. He's night and day from once he came in. So where he's at now, I believe. I think that's just his competitive nature. And what he's been doing out there in practice. And that's going against one another out there. So he's been good and he's going to be a big piece as well. That's our offense. So what do you get receivers? How can you help a receiver? Yeah, I mean, it's a constant communication. If I were to win on a red, they may come and ask me what it is that you've seen on that play that you're able to get in position.

4:08:00And I'll tell them that. I may ask them a question. So it's just that constant communication on how we can get each other better. Thank you guys. Thank you. Thank you. Glad to see you back. Glad to see you back. I just... The ocean delights us. Some marvel at the colorful world below the surface. The ocean feeds us. Others find nourishment in its bounty. The ocean teaches us how our everyday choices impact even the deepest places. The ocean moves us. Whether we're riding a wave or soaking in its breathtaking beauty. The ocean connects us. Find your connection at monoraybeacquarium.org slash connects. CalSheezone CEO says it himself. Any as two-thirds of people on CalSheez lose money. So what does it take to be in the other third? You have to do extensive amount of research to be good.

4:09:00There are people that spend copious amount of money, time, resources, energy. They've dedicated their lives to basically becoming good at it. All that and still. Any as two-thirds of people on CalSheez lose money. It was money. It was money. That's CalSheez in their own CEO's words. Go to www.fairpredics.com to learn more. Like, does that kind of mindset that you take an everyday practice? Like, you just say you're not happy. Jeremiah catches a little of people like 98 out of 100 receivers. That is probably a lot of catcher goes on. That's what? Is that kind of... Is it keep that in the back of your head? Is that what you're talking about? It's Jeremiah, Carnell and Brandon and then Micah. Yes, that's what my mind is. In practice the other day, I went to those bros to get me, and everything that they had. So I go up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up and then it's like this. It's one of the easiest for me and I'll be prepared. What have you seen the growth of the young people on the corners? Obviously we saw it, but it's not a Jeremiah last year. They're your main sorry.

4:10:00But Cal's in and some of the errands, some of the young guys. How have you seen them come along? And Scott has gotten completely better from his brain. Glad completely better. Is that just time being the program? I'm just getting used to the speed of college Shippah, I would say. What about Calvin? He was obviously here last year. He was. Calvin has gotten a lot better. I would say that he's gotten a lot smarter. And you know, Fry G.B., go ahead. I think he's there about Calvin's intelligence, you know, where he's grown. Where specifically is it? The film room? Is it when I pick it up, you know, the playbook? Where have you seen that? I would say Calvin has gotten smarter just like his game knowledge, like expecting like a different kind of routes and stuff like that. When did everything start to click for you? The last year was it in the soft season? When did you feel really comfortable? I would say in the spring, I started to get a lot more comfortable in our defense. We say you break up the past history with the German name.

4:11:00I'm sorry if you were asked about this earlier, but what is like going up against him to you? It seems like you enjoy it. Yeah, I love it. He's tough. I like going against him a lot. He's really good. What have you improved in your game? Just from that, for example, those one-on-one matchups, this preseason or whatever. You know how a ballie who disgave it. So German, he forces me to play the ball because if you don't play the ball against him, he'll go get it. Yeah, yeah. And you, Dave, send it. How would you describe this defense now compared to this time of year ago from the standpoint of a confidence factor? You don't mean that you guys feel on the field? How would you describe it? It's different about it, I guess. I feel like everybody is a lot more smart than they are. Everybody's like, I would just say that we're going to just smarter. Yeah, but when you look up and layton ran, so I decided to come back and Caleb down, transfer it in. What did you feel about that?

4:12:00Did it just grow stronger in that one week span, two weeks span? You're still on up saying? I feel like those guys have played the level those guys have played at. Yeah, I would say that. A guy was coming in and... What may he say, he was coming back, ZZ, he was coming back, it just so light. I'm really happy to be the winner. Yeah, Drew, still? Thanks, man. Of course. I'm going to make it. Variance versus mobile quarterbacks helps us obviously be on the GS help of his home and learn from our... We had him going through the hole and had him scrambles. What we can learn from those scrambles and we going from that game and the past game we played against Oregon just learning... Learning the quarterbacks tendencies and when they like to run, where they like to run, everybody helps us out. Really closing the cage and placing the pocket for them. Is there a fine line between being aggressive but also being wary? This guy can slip away. You're still on up saying timing? Yeah. You can't just go right at him. I mean, go ahead. Yeah, he's definitely a quarterback and then gets out of the pocket. So, I mean, he's definitely a threat. He's a main guy in offense. He runs the show.

4:13:00So, I mean, be on the stop him and contain him. Really slows the offense down. So, be on the cage and pocket and be on the slow him down and make him make more decisions on the run and moving around. It helps us. Go ahead. Do you have one more? Him, I'm sorry. Well, no. I didn't want to ask about their center. Their center. I impressed with you with him the last time you guys played. He seemed to have a pretty good game, you know, and he's kind of a tough guy to move out of there and stuff he looks like. What's your impression of him? He's definitely one of the better centers in the conference. I mean, he's a really good guy. I mean, being there and there and there and being there and the size and being able to move the way he can is really hard to get around him at times. But he's definitely having the game plan and working against and working to tend to see that he has a big work against that. It really helps us. It helps me. The last thing. Yeah. Fifth or a middle. Steven Leonard, college football, how old is it? Yeah, kind of piggybacking on that. How much of it was there, offensive line being a strike that are team versus Dylan Gabriel being able to escape and the lack of pressures that we had on our defense?

4:14:00Oh, yeah. I mean, when you got a good offensive line, I mean, it makes it even better for a quarterback, you know, be under the rollout, you know, that your line was going to help you protect you when you're in the pocket. So I mean, it makes it easier for throws and it makes it harder for us, honestly, for having a good offensive line. So I mean, like I said before, just being able to attack the offensive line, attack the weaknesses and be able to go after them, make it harder for the quarterback, make it harder for them or a world. Or for a right, Andrew Gillick, believe in Doc Brown. What's the challenge? Similar to Tim's question. And you know, when you play a team like this that runs the level of RPOs that they do that was in the middle of the game. So you have, how do you stay true and be aggressive and force the issue where, you know, Dylan Gabriel is really going to make it a great deal. Oh, yeah, like I said, just putting pressure on them, we just be able to get back there. I mean, we got a lot of different plays that can help us get back there faster in playing and playing to their tendencies, you know. A lot of times they have the RPO, the RPO helps them out, it means to get the ball out fast. I mean, things like Jackson and JTB, you know, get their hands up, knock the ball down, crazy stream them out of pressure for the quarterback when you got hands in your face all times. And final questions, Bill Rebeno and Columbus dispatch.

4:15:02We've asked about Dylan Gabriel and the receivers. They're not one dimensional. They have a good running back in Jordan, James. What makes him special and what's the challenge for you guys? I think he's definitely one of the better running backs on the conference as well. I mean, just how hard he runs is it's hard to bring him down at the time. So I mean, as a front pro, we probably stop in the run. That's the first thing we're going to do as we go on the game. I mean, past Russian is good and all, but we can't stop the running. I mean, they've been running the ball down the dough all the time. All the time we have to figure out how we're going to stop them. We're going to run the ball and then we're going to take them down. So I mean, it's our job as a front pro to go on there and stop the run. We're going to make them one dimensional as we go out there. So I mean, if we get out there every time every mindset we go out there, I mean, we're going to get them. We're not going to allow them to get in the yards, allow them to get going. We're going to stop them. We're going to make them throw the ball. When JTB was up there asked him about how to compare contrast him and Jack as personalities. What's your take on that? How different are they as just personalities? I definitely think Jack is more outgoing. They guide me. He's like the light that shines around me.

4:16:03Everybody goes around him and everybody loves him. He's an outgoing guy. They're going to come to you and shake your hand any time of day. And then JT's more of the blue guy. A lot of guys gravitate to him. He just has a bright smile on him all the time. He's just a great guy that people like to be around. And they're two good people, so it's hard to tell. And Ty, I do that one more question for you. Tony Irvin, like that, huh? You guys obviously have faced tough play. You did it last week. What's the key for you as a defensive one facing tempo? Yeah, I mean, we've been going through all week in the past two weeks. It's just getting set. I mean, that's the first thing you do. If you're not set, it makes it harder to do your job. So let's be able to get on the ball, get set before they're lined up and set the ball. It's one and more important thing. So when we're set, we're able to do our jobs at the efficiency day before they can do theirs. How do you call it now? It could be difficult at times. You know, you gotta look to the signline first. You gotta get the call. I mean, the call has to be set down first. It can't be difficult at times, but that's definitely what we've been working on the past three weeks to just get the call, get the call early, get set, so we can go and be play faster. You never find where you're like, you've chased the play into one side of the field.

4:17:05And now it'll slide up. They're going to be at the other side. So like, you've got to just run the signline side, like just to get the money. Oh, yeah. I mean, I have been a lot of last game, you know. It's hard. It's definitely tough. I mean, that's what we work on and practice. Just moving as fast as we can, we're simulating these things so we can get into the game. It's a lot easier. So we move around side to side, run around, doing extra conditioning just for moments like this. Time. Thank you very much. Alright, thank you. Thanks, Ty. I think you know you're not going to get hit, but more preseason and first couple games, I'm excited to see what that looks like. I think of the sheets, especially. I'm excited, man. Like I said, from jump, he's a special, special player. You don't really get that so many players like him that's so quick, so fast, at least speed and I ain't going to run routes too. So I'm excited to see what he does in the future, but I feel like that's the least they can do for him this year. How do you think he would get me on board for another? It's just speed, man. Speed. You can't teach speed at all. Just having us on opposite sides, even to play on both sides.

4:18:08It's just speed down a field. You can run 15, 20 yard end breakers, out breakers. And like I said, you're going to have to play two safes most of the time, or you can run the ball, you can get underneath routes. It's going to be a great compliment to the offense, so I'm excited. Chris, you said you hope this new offensive playmaker from the decision to make plays. What about you specifically? What's an area where you think you'll have more opportunity than fix your game? It's a lot of areas that you can see to look at, to improve my game, but yards out the cases are one I'm looking forward to. Just more opportunities with that, more space. Just to showcase my speed and my ability with the ball. So I'm excited to do that this year. I'm not really showcased the first two years, so I'm excited to be with the players. Just get in the ball in your hands. Yeah, a quick game, play action, more over the middle routes.

4:19:08It's a lot of different things that you can say that this guy's going to help that, but like I said, I'm excited. How would you describe the chemistry between you and the Garrett and the Zoola? Well, getting way better, man. I mean, it was our first year last year, so it was kind of up and down, but that's what it comes with the game of football. We worked a lot this off season, OTAs, which was really good. And we got up to a good start these first two days at camp, getting extra working. But that's going to come with time, so I'm not worried about that at all. We both competitors, we both want to be the best, so we got to do something to be good. What do you kind of notice at the fence? Just like you feel on the route, what do you kind of notice now that it's here too? That's more natural. What do you mean? It's like, are you when you're dancing? It's more than that, man. It's NFL, everybody's good, so we just got to know what each other is thinking, preaching that, posting that, cover cheese, where the walls won't go. Just read, what read I am in the progression, everything goes along with that.

4:20:12Just being on the same page, being, like I said, chemistry is built with time, so just little stuff like that, that turns into big things is going to be huge. You caught one from Spencer Routler today too, what are your early impressions from him? He's real talented, that's the first thing I've seen from him. His arm title is out of charge, he's a real natural feel out there. He's going to be real good, I want to see him in action, but from my first impression, he's going to be a real good player. He's going back to the sheet that you've talked about all the different stuff he's going to do. You think there's still a lot more there for that? Oh yeah, he hasn't really, I think this is the first year of being receiver two or really receiver. In my opinion, we both are receiver one, so I just be able to move around, run real routes, feel like it's going to be a huge advantage for the same. It's a special player and I can't wait to see him ball, I can't wait to see him get more opportunities,

4:21:13and you can see what he can do. He's my run real routes, he's just like an opportunity to run. Yeah, just getting more, he hadn't really played too many plays in his first few years, he kind of just gets thrown in there when he's getting the ball or when he's a decoy or something like that. But he's actually being involved in the offense, always being in, even on run plays. I feel like he's going to be a huge advantage for him to get a feel for the game and be more natural out there. How hard is the receiver like that for the shed kind of thinking of him as the deep threat label? So people just think of him as a deep threat, but they can do more. How hard is it to kind of shed that label or that perception? I mean, that's what life everybody is trying to label somebody as one thing or two things, but I feel like you can showcase, I mean, that's not really who you are, you know what I'm saying? As he gets more opportunities as you can see, you can see he can do more and more. That's what anybody on the team. So I'm excited, like I said, and for his huge opportunity is going to get this year,

4:22:16and it's going to be a big one for the Saints. Does this scheme ask for more blocking from the receivers as every more responsibility? Oh yeah, for sure. I mean, that's what I told you too. We both have to block, and I know we're not the biggest guys or the strongest, but like I said, we want to be on the field, we got to be on the field for the play action plays, all those things. So we both got to go block D-Line and block linebackers, but that's what's coming football, so we both got to take that next step in our game. Is that somewhere there's like a payoff, like you can write down your play action next time? Oh yeah, so it's going to be a huge payoff. Like I said, most of our office is based on play action, all the in-breakers, all the yards at the catch of a play, so we got to go in there and block, and like I said, take that next step and be able to be great for our team. Like being here? Oh yeah, so, after I feel the weather out here, and that's what I'm used to, not using the war, and it's out there trying to catch my breath, but it's a great opportunity for us.

4:23:18Are you going to check for the seed family or friends at all, so this is their football friend here? Not yet, but they don't come by here soon. Appreciate you all, no? Thank you very much. I'm really looking forward to seeing the whole field of all these in the pocket, or two big things in terms of his accuracy. The ocean moves us, whether that's surfing a wave or taking in an inspiring view. The ocean feeds us, sustainable seafood practices bring the ocean's bounty to our plates. The ocean teaches us how our everyday choices, big and small make an impact. The ocean delights us as playful otters restore coastal kelp forests. The ocean connects us. Find your connection at monoraybeacquarium.org slash connects. CalSheezone CEO says it himself. And yes, two-thirds of people on CalShe lose money. So what does it take to be in the other third? You have to do extensive amount of research to be good. There are people that spend the copious amount of money, time, resources, energy,

4:24:18they've dedicated their lives to basically becoming good at it. All that and still. And yes, two-thirds of people on CalShe lose money. Those are my own. Those are my own. That's CalSheezone in their own CEO's words. Go to www.fairpredics.com to learn more. I'm very WBNF. This is kind of uncharted waters with the new playoffs system and everything from an offensive standpoint. How much of the offense is in? Are you holding things back because there's some pooch? How do you manage all that? I don't think we hold anything back. I think our offense is always game plan specific in terms of who we're playing and how do we attack what they do. Each defense you face is somewhat unique. And so you can say, hey, this team's a little bit like this team, but not totally like that team. So I think it's not, hey, this is a really good play. Let's not run it because we're going to need it down the road. You have to win every game. And I don't think you can take that approach of let's save this for another game because you don't know how games are going to express themselves during the course of the game itself.

4:25:26So everything we do is just game plan specific, especially now that we've gotten into conference play. Pretty much in. Yeah, I mean, we could add stuff that I think we may have done in the spring, but we haven't used yet just because we haven't faced that defense yet. And for all of our other roles, chip in 2022, your UCLA offensive line was a semi-finals for the Joe War award. Today, just offensive line was made by semi-finals for that. Do you see similarities for the way that that unit was playing and the way that Justin has your guys playing right now? I think they're different. I don't really upset it before. I'm not into comparing one group to another group. I didn't know that that's pretty cool for those guys. That's a prestigious award. You know, those guys usually go unnoticed. That's the nature of the position if you're an offensive lineman. They, you know, they're by their close to two value hardware. They don't really get a lot of attention. They're not the guys that are out in the limelight, let's some of these other guys. But they work their tails off.

4:26:26You know, I think that's the, the gist of any team that's going to be a really good football team has to be strong on both lines. And the fact that they've been recognized for that, that's something that's, that's pretty cool. But now we got to live up, we got to live up to that standard every day. So you guys don't go outside to those awards as coaches, but to see the, the way that those guys have responded since losing Josh. That's as a play car and the leader in the office. How do you, how do you, how do you, what do you think of being in the way that's playing without you? I've been really impressed. And I think really Donnie and Seth have really stepped up in, in that leadership part. You know, and I think the two of those guys have really kind of led from the front to tough, hard-knows physical players. Obviously Donnie being selfish and moving from left card to left tackle was a really big deal for us. And he continues to work in his craft every day because, you know, I think everybody just thinks, oh, line. But, you know, all, all five of those positions are really different. And it's not easy to go from one position to another position. And the fact that Donnie's done that has been great. And I think Seth really, because he calls all of our identifications and, and directs what our blocking schemes will be.

4:27:30You know, it was really kind of fell into that leadership role for us. And I think our guys are rallying behind those two. All right, Dave Holmes. You, that's why I, Ryan talked a little bit about, is up bringing a Fenway Park and a store at baseball. And you want to get your thoughts on playing a game in Great Lakes. Yeah, I think it's cool. You know, I, I, I've not seen, I've seen just highlights of a football game in there. And I've been to a game at Great Lakes when I was out recruiting once. But the fact that you can play in settings like that is, it's pretty cool. And I think it makes it unique. You know, obviously, they're refurbishing their stadium. So, you know, they got to be on the, they got to either build the one that they did on campus or go to Riggly. So the fact that we get to be the one team that plays in Riggly, I think it would be pretty cool. And I think our players won't do that. Awesome. More on the podcast. Chip, I know every, every game plan every week is, is different. Contention on the opponent. But it's felt like the last couple of game plans and, I mean, a little bit more on Will's over Russian threat. What's, what's motivating that decision? The defenses that the people deploy. You know, sometimes they always have an extra guy in the box. And if you run the quarterback, then that evens numbers back out. It's as simple as that.

4:28:31You know, some teams don't do that. And other teams do do that. So, you know, it's just sometimes when you get, especially when you get in a conference play, I think there's a lot of people in this league that know how to stop the run. So, you know, you got to be able to have a mobile quarterback. And it helps the will has that mobility. The land is Kings of the North. Chip, do you ever integrate off the play or change something up kind of just for the sake of doing it to break a tendency or put something different on film? Or is it always opponent specific? No, it's always opponent specific, but you still self-scout yourself. And what are we doing out of this formation and what is our run pass ratio? And even within that, within, out of this formation all runs are this. You know, and then that's always the, the fine line. Well, we should do something different. Well, what we're doing is working. Why would we do something different? You know, so you kind of play that game and go back and forth with it. But we're constantly working on self-scout of ourselves and tendencies that we're trying to just understand. But some tendencies are good tendencies.

4:29:31You know, you could be, hey, you're 90% run out of this formation. You're also 90% success out of this formation. So, you know, do you not call that ever again because you think that they think that you think this. You know, you can get into that real dilemma of just, you know, it's still about executing and still about lighting up and playing. So, but we do spend a lot of time on that. That's part of what our weekly game plan meetings are about. The ocean moves us. Whether that's surfing a wave or taking in an inspiring view. The ocean feeds us. Sustainable seafood practices bring the ocean's bounty to our plates. The ocean teaches us. How are everyday choices? Big and small make an impact. The ocean delights us. As playful otters restore coastal kelp forests. The ocean connects us. Find your connection at monoraybeacquarium.org slash connects. CalShe's own CEO says it himself. Any of the few thirds of people on CalShe lose money. So, what does it take to be in the other third? You have to do extensive amount of research to be good.

4:30:32There are people that spend the copious amount of money, time, resources, energy. They've dedicated their lives to basically becoming good at it. All that and still. Any of the two thirds of people on CalShe lose money. That's CalShe in their own CEO's words. Go to www.fairpredics.com to learn more. There are many more emphasis on that in a college football season that can now be 17-18 games where you want to make sure you're sprinkling in different things so that if you get to game 17 and a team has a pretty expansive football on you guys, you know, why is that they can't, you know, key in on something you've done all year. You want to make sure you have those changes. Yeah, there has to be some of those. But again, I think you can drive yourself crazy. We put this on tape and they think that we can do this because they know that we can do that. They can't do that. And we do that. I didn't make any sense what I just said. And that's what's going on in your head when you're starting to think about all that stuff too. So, it's that process. You know, I still think you have to part of being really good at it.

4:31:32Is what are we good at? And how do we continue to be good at it so that everybody in the stadium doesn't know hey, they're running the ball over the right side on this play because that's what they always do. You know, I think you're still trying to mass some of those things but you still have to play to your strengths. Can you give your audience a bit of a question about what running? I think maybe the class of your company is going to be mentioned. You know, you don't have to be in that short run. It's going to be power out time. But how do you see Will's progression in understanding or reading what he does his want? And to do what it comes to handing off to Hugh or Dre, pulling more. Is that more from you guys? I only have a little bit of a little bit more. No, no, it's a good question. We don't tell him we want you to do this or want you to do that. It's totally a lot of that stuff is if it's a read play, it's he has to read it out and how he sees it. It's just like we don't tell him where to throw. You know, it's the place called to the Curl or the flat. But it depends, there's a defender defend the Curl or defend the flat.

4:32:33Like you can't tell him before the play. Throw the Curl because I know the guy's going to chase the flat. Well, then he sits in the Curl and you throw a pick. It's coach told me to go there. You know, we told you to read this player. So it's the same thing with some of the read plays that we run. And I think he does a really good job. You know, he was really well trained. I think Chris climate does a great job and Colin climate did a great job at Case Dayton. So we'll get a really, really good understanding of our running game. You know, it was more of just learning the terminology here as opposed to what it was like there. But I think he does a really, really good job of that. And when we put something in new, it may be new to this unit, but it's not new to Will. It's just, oh, yeah, we run this. And then we'll go back and actually look at Case Dayton with him and kind of pick his brain. How do you read it and how is it presented to you and what's the best way for us to present it so that we can execute. You're like often, from this back. So what do you see as the advantage from from huddling more and just sort of planning to slow pace of play in offense versus past couple of years. You have to remember more place, prevent it from your now pace a little slower.

4:33:36Just what the events that I think you can communicate better. You know, so obviously the thing that's changed this season and I think a lot of people have slowed down. It was the ability for the quarterback to communicate with everybody before the play. You know, before it was just everything was driven by signals and everybody was looking to the sideline and then getting everybody on the same page. So there's there's some teams. And sometimes when that's to your advantage, you know, I think more people do it to us because they don't want to mow in our hands so that I think the game has. We don't get as many possessions right now as we have in the past. Just because I think all sides are doing it a little bit more, but I think the communication thing that you're allowed to talk to the quarterback up to 15 seconds on the on the play clock is is one of the advantages of huddling. You're looking at two of you guys have also done it. Is it more of a business? Is it TV you're going to man to do the other team? Yeah, it gives us an advantage again from being able to communicate so what will can talk to the offensive line about, you know, I mean like normally you'd send a play and but he couldn't give them like hey these guys are 85% twist and boundary corner on this place.

4:34:41So make sure that we're really high alert for that. You know, so there's there's a lot more that goes on. It's not a two way conversation because he can't talk back to you, but you know, we have a style of speaking in that situation so that we can communicate some different things before it was. You just called the play and broke now you can give him a lot more information. You know, there may be a player got injured the play before. Hey, there's a new left corner in the number 15. We talked about him. We saw him on film. This is what he's susceptible to. Let's make sure we're attacking him when you know he's in instead of you waited till you get to the sideline between series and go hey there's a new corner and I didn't know he was in, but you can communicate that stuff now. Give me a round. Thanks Jerry. Pulled up on that a little bit or just on offensive plays. Do you ever have times in games where you have to say to yourself, I got to be disciplined here. I got to call some run plays. I know it sounds kind of stupid, but I mean to have the balance when you look at this lineup with Jeremiah and Emma and Carnell. You know, you could throw them all 50 times a game and nobody would question that either.

4:35:44You're saying, does it take discipline to also stay with the run game? I think it takes discipline to know what the defense is trying to take away from you. So, you know, for you to try to continue to throw it if they're going to play. The ocean moves us, surfing a wave or savoring the view. The ocean delights us as playful otters restore coastal calpores. The ocean connects us. Visit monoraybeacquarium.org slash connects. Calci's own CEO says it himself. And yes, two thirds of people on Calci lose money. So what does it take to be in the other third? You have to do extensive amount of research to be good. And people that spend copious amount of money, time, resources, energy, they've dedicated their lives to basically becoming good at it. All that and still. And yes, two thirds of people on Calci lose money. That's Calci in their own CEO's words. Go to www.fairpredics.com to learn more. High safeties and light boxes.

4:36:46You know, you should be running it more than, you know, and when people are loading up the box, take away your run and saying, hey, we're not going to let you run the ball in the situation. And you are still trying to run the ball in the situation. That's what I think the discipline is. So sometimes it's not consecutive plays in a row or series. It's just kind of what are they like? Because you take, say you're playing Northwestern, you have nine game breakdown in Northwestern. This is what they've done for their last nine games. What, as you go into the really first, second, third series of a game, is what we saw in the last nine games actually happening in this game. And if it is, then we're pretty solid in terms of our game plan. If not, then you may have to morph a little bit towards Rana or a little bit towards Pass based upon how they decided they were going to come out this week. Because they may have come out in the previous nine weeks and done this, but in your game, they're doing it a little bit differently. So it's the ability to make those adjustments and kind of lean one way or the other. You know, I think it's the discipline part you're talking about. Not just saying, well, we're just going to chuck it. But if they're playing really deep and you're still trying to throw it deep, then that's not smart either.

4:37:48How do we necessarily throw it deep every time? Okay. You just want us to throw it every time? Yeah, that's fine. My loss of winning dad aired out. But follow up. Well, once you can... You're not a Woody Hayes guy then, huh? Yeah, and that one. Well, come on. You can't go both ways. I've never been out of women's Texas. Okay. See, you're not a bare-brank guy. Yeah. Yeah, we've gone by that layer. When you walk into a place like Wrigley Field, you seem to have a feel for history and stuff. Gail Sayers ran there, you know, Dick Buck is playing there. Yeah. Most people don't take that thing out of a plate and so is your field and stuff. Do you think about that kind of where you are? I will Friday because we're actually going to get to the stadium and get a chance to kind of look around and see what it looks like. But do that end to the... Oh, yeah. And always does. I mean, I love whenever we were wherever I've been when you get a chance to go playing some of these iconic stadiums and players that you choose. Players that you saw when you were growing up and play here, that's always a really cool part about what we get to do. But yeah, that'll be fun. I think everybody's excited about playing the Scandar Wrigley.

4:38:49Okay. Go, thank you very much. All right. Thanks, guys. You know, just more so. Let's get off the ball. What kind of impact did working with Brian Young this past week have? The defense line as well? I met a big impact. It's going to be why, you know, obviously, an old bit. You know, we went back to the basics just on technique, footwork, just the fundamentals. And I think that definitely helped prepare this for the game. Did Reels rotations on the defensive line different this week? Just getting maybe more plays to sequence together, set a counter rotate while... Yeah, it was more so, you know, six play. If you guys get tired, just rotate out. But it's a cool rotation. And definitely helped us stay fresh. Even that last drive during the fourth guys, we were just a lot fresher, able to rest the passer.

4:39:49So I feel like it benefited us. Is there also just a, like, I don't know, just like getting into the game flow when you're not. And then, you know, you can get more to a rhythm. No, definitely. Cam, I came up with that second and fourth quarter that I don't know if it pushed him out of the throwball range, but obviously, I missed the throwball right after that. Like, Cam's obviously a leader on this team. When he makes a big play like that, like, how much maybe does that give a boost of adrenaline to the defense? A big boost, because, you know, that's, you know, that's OZ Cam. You know, that's been his Cam right there. You know, all you look at him just smile. But it was a, it was a big boost. You know, definitely makes you get on your horse a little more. And just keep your head down and keep grinding throughout the game. That's key and prestige the way that he's kind of accepted his role this year. You know, he's not playing as much as he used to, but obviously, him kind of just embraced that and does it do anything for you. Yeah, I mean, I've been learning a lot from Cam, especially technique-wise.

4:40:52You know, I would ask him about just, you know, how I would look at his old film, I'd ask him about, you know, what was he saying? And, you know, during this particular play, but I think he's an awesome leader. He will come in and will open arms, come in here. And, you know, that's my guy. Hey, when somebody like Tyron stands up front of the team, so like, I've played up to my expectations, like, I will be better for the, like, what does it mean when somebody hits on the stat with a lot of people grew up watching him? Yeah, I mean, T5, he had to, man. I mean, you know, every game he can be your best game. That's the lead. You know, but he came up clutch with a pick. I mean, you know, regardless of it all, he always finds the way to get in acceptance on the high he keeps doing it. But he definitely, I smile at that too. It's like, you know, I watched him high school, really just his whole career.

4:41:54So it's an honor to be playing with him. Rizzie talked about kind of changing some things every now and then to make people body uncomfortable. What's the value of that from a player perspective? I think just in terms of, you know, staying uncomfortable, I think it's that mental aspect, you know, going through a game, you know, things may not go your way, just being in that uncomfortable state and always having the will to push him, fight through. How have you seen the changes with the benefits rather of those changes that you're making this week, like, from practice, the schedule to your position, roles and life? Yeah, I mean, I think we can see it, you know, during the game, we just watched film. I even know myself during the run. I was just in my hand placement was a lot better, you know, because we were just refining a lot of the smaller details that B.I. felt like we needed to fix. So I think it's paying off.

4:42:55And you also talked about confidence, amen, big up. From you all side of the ball, obviously, up there, bigger, rising on the past week. How much of the confidence booze from what do you get from this win? Oh, a lot. I'm a lot, I feel like we, the whole week, you know, we was talking about finishing and I felt like we did that. You know, we kept our heads down and we went back to the basics. The fundamentals, technique, hand placement, you know, that lean that you have to have. And, you know, just refining the small things and it all paid off. So it's definitely confidence booze. How much you describe Peyton Turner from your time with him watching him through training camp and then having a bigger impact on his past week? Yeah, Peyton, great player, great teammate. You know, that's a, that's a, I think, guy to team. I grew closer with, but a great, I mean, he's a great player, a hell of a guy. Thank you.

4:43:57Your ship not only from me, but from a few other guys in the online group will be really special throughout those next 18 days. What is the doubt about Austin Terrible? What's that? Yeah, no, I mean, you know, he's been, he's been doing, you know, everything right. I mean, he's been, you know, bouncing around. He's been, you know, physical out of adversity as well, but I mean, he's, he's prevailed and he's been doing a great job leading and stuff like that. Being a younger guy, I'm self-reliant to step up and take their roles. Been huge and only for me, but for our entire team and our, our unit and so for him to continue to take those steps is, you know, it's going to be really important for this off season. Or throughout this season through this off season because we have a really long season coming up. Like we know, you know, it's going to take everybody. And last year really showed that. I think that leadership not only coming from, you know, like a couple of guys, but from the entire group. It needs to be so important because we're at least that we're going to need everybody. We're coaching on that side. We're playing for a while, then you become a starting left guard, then you move back to center and you become the starting center on the national team.

4:45:00Yeah. It's under your audience. It's a little bit of a place question, but what a world in last year came out on top. Yeah. As you were plugged on that, what does it mean? Yeah, I mean, just how blessed I was. Just, you know, continuing to come up with blessings. I never thought, you know, that would be the case. You know, I know going into Penn State with coach for hours, like I never played it, but you want to give her shot and I was like, shoot, why not? And through that, you know, I couldn't be more blessed. And then from taking over after Seth got injured and him being there still coaching me not just like taking a back seat and working on his NFL journey. But he really sat, you know, sat back and helped me out was a blessing as well. Being able to play with guys like with two first rom picks and three all Americans and Josh Firesh would have been all Americans to really four Americans. It was really, you know, such an honor to be able to play with those guys. I've been blessed to play with a lot of really great people. And coach has talked about, you know, Austin's development and how quickly kind of he flipped the switch after the title game, how motivated he was. When did you kind of see him put the switch?

4:46:01Did you talk to him at all like that the motivation he had to get better and play a big role this season? Yeah, you know, I mean, pigs always a really intense guy. I mean, especially when, you know, we're doing any off season training or something like that. Like he's definitely got that gets people going. He's a really strong guy, really competitive. And so for him to just kind of, you know, unravel a little bit more of that and just kind of like bring that raw emotion. I think to what we do has been really just fun to see. And I think it's kind of like a combination throughout the entire off season from winter training to summer training to now. And he's just continued to steadily incline on that. They're really great leadership. So the long way to go by I think he's been doing a really great job in learning. This capability is in what he's able to do for the group. How do you tell months and just kind of what KOS was? How valuable does the last seven or so months of stability for you to just kind of be able to not really go around to this? Yeah, it's been awesome. And to work with guys like I said before, like, LaTarral has been like, like, probably one of the greatest blessings I've been able to do. I mean, through what he's done for me through what Coach Bohn has done for me, Coach Dick, he coach Johnson, all those guys have really helped me out to become such a better player than I was.

4:47:12It's just been really important just so I can narrow down on what I need to do because you know, as a center, you kind of need to be able to play all three positions and getting comfortable like in my body posture and in stance and high drive off the ball and stuff like that is important. Not only for center, but for everything. So I've just been blessed with opportunity and people honestly. You mentioned the work question playing behind the set of the obviously played next in the top. What did you learn mentally to help your game grow? Yeah, and I think, you know, from being in those huddles being with, I mean, even with great leaders like Will Howard and stuff like that, I found that we always play the best when we can play fast and we're having a lot of fun. I think we play really, really hard when we're having fun with each other. I think when we kind of have that mindset of we're going to burrow down and you know, it's us against, you know, whoever it's us collectively our unit against whoever wants to line up across from us. I think that's when we have our strongest mindset and collective force together.

4:48:15And I think playing with Donnie and playing with Josh Fire and Jimmy and Seth and all those guys in the past and stuff like that. And I think that's really what I think is really important to me that, you know, physically we can be really capable of mentally all together like we're pretty hard to deal with. Of course, you're going to be like the biggest difference between a center who's getting ready to start the first time in this league and a center who's been through the battles and has a bunch of experience. Yeah, I mean, a center who has a lot of green mind as he goes out there and he's really just hoping he just doesn't mess up. The Snaggers quarterback, he's he's hoping on a lot of stuff. You know, he's not really dictating anything. He's not he's not going up there and deciding. He's like, okay, I'm going to give this guy two options or I know I've watched in a film. I know the tendencies of this player. I've played these guys before. I kind of have a feeling of what this decordinator can do or what he likes to do just from learning from different experiences and different coaches. So just being able to go there now with experiences huge. I didn't think I knew how valuable experience was two years ago.

4:49:21And I saw a lot of experience to get yet. I think in my experience or in my journey, my career, but so far I think the experience has been invaluable for me just from those past two years to now. I'm excited. I was looking up a bunch of like trash talk in German forum. Just so the ref doesn't get us on the couple, you know. But no, I'm pumped actually. It's it's me fun to see him. I mean, I'm me and him, you know, been best friends for the past couple of years living together. And so it's been, you know, it's a blessing to be able to go and play up against them. And I don't really know where he's playing at right now. I guess position wise specifically, but wherever he's at, I'm pretty excited to throw a double TMI and hopefully roll him over a couple times. I really just call upon the list, which is like Chubby. That's really good.

4:50:21I'm kind of the type to like just kind of keep moving forward and we'll celebrate after but a lot of the guys were talking to me about it. We'll never we go. It was pretty cool. I don't know if you also we had like little tent on the sideline because it was like hot. So yeah, our equipment team did a really good job with that. So it was kind of a cool vibe because you couldn't really see like the fans or anything. It was like right over you. It was it was cool. And yeah, I felt like little huddle. But yeah, I don't know. I didn't really let it. I didn't want to let it get to me because sometimes what can happen is like once you start getting like numbers up, like you'll kind of get satisfied. I'd be like, Oh, okay, I'm kind of done for the game. I don't really need to win. Really you can get a lot more. So yeah, I don't know. I think it was the first drive was like 1.5. Yeah. And yeah. So I mean. The ocean delights us some Marvel apocolourful world below the surface. The ocean feeds us. Others find nourishment and it's bounty. The ocean teaches us how our everyday choices impact even the deepest places. The ocean moves us where they were writing a wave or so can in its breathtaking beauty.

4:51:24The ocean connects us. Find your connection at monoraybeacquarium.org slash connects. Calhchee's own CEO says it himself. And yes, 2-thirds of people on Calhchee lose money. So what does it take to be in the other third? You have to do extensive amount of research to be good. There are people that spend the most of your time, time, resources, energy. They've dedicated their lives to basically becoming good at it. All that and still. And yes, 2-thirds of people on Calhchee lose money. That's Calhchee in their own CEOs words. Go to www.fairpredics.com to learn more. The second most in a game in Carolina history. The only one who had more was Julius Peppers. You don't seem like somebody who would get too excited about that. That's pretty cool. Yeah, I didn't even know that. Honestly, it's still actually the game. That was pretty cool. It would have been nice to get one more. That was pretty cool. Hopefully, I'll have some more opportunities to do that soon.

4:52:26But it was pretty cool. You have taken some heat for your celebrations. Did you use the by-week to refine any? I'm sure you all saw the video they put out with the whole box. That was pretty funny. Honestly, at this point, I got to stick to it now. Now that I've...there's a name for it. But honestly, it's pretty... Because I've basically... I mean, you can ask my parents, since I was in middle school, I've never been... I just get really excited and I just start flexing out. Since I've been 11 years old, I've always done that. There's a ton of high school pictures of me doing it. That's just what I've always done. That's pretty funny. I think a big positive for that celebration is normal people in the stands can do it. Which is not the case with some celebration. Even I could do the both legs. It's the whole list of cool of you right now. There we go. But I like the way he doesn't stand over the quarterback.

4:53:28He's just celebrating. Dude, he just sat the quarterback. It's time to both flex. Have you heard from either both flex or bow jangles are from Caroline Insider? I have not. I guess I haven't done a great job of reaching out, but yeah, I probably shouldn't. Let's go. They should call you. You don't even know what the judge does. It feels like you're obvious it's bow time. Yeah. If I can't buy the bow meal at Keenan Stadium by Saturday at 8 p.m. Do you like the bow seconds? It's kind of hard to say. I like it. I like it. That's actually interesting because Kamin actually was the one who made that up last year. Like our first game last year, we played South Carolina. And I had like two or one and a half or something like that. And so Kamin was calling me that last year too. So it was pretty interesting to see like the origins of that. Yeah, just need a little momentum. Yeah. Exactly. Exactly. Okay. You've legally agreed to give us 10% of anything. You have to be good to go. Were you impressed jealous or something else, which Javari Ritzies picked six against Virginia?

4:54:36Oh, no. I mean, I'm sure you all saw the clip too. Like that was all him. Like there was literally like a shallow pat. Like it wasn't even like a screen or something. And Javari like tipped it up, caught it, and then Heisman, the quarterback, while holding the ball like a loaf of bread in the other hand. And like, I don't know. He's a freak for sure. So I mean, that was just straight impressed there. I don't know. I haven't had an interception here. And I don't know if I had any high school either. Really? Yeah, that was pretty sick to see him doing that. And then like running down the field next because I was on the field at the same time. Yeah. Were there any moments where you wondered if he was going to run out of gas? Honestly, no, just because I like I mean doing like the workouts the whole summer with him like he's a three tech. But like he's not really because like he's just so free like he's big enough to do it. But he's also so athletic for his size that yeah, now he's a freak for sure. So tell us a little bit about growing up bow young bow. Tell us a little bit about your background up though. Hmm. I started playing football when I was like seven or so.

4:55:39My dad played college football at Yukon and my mom played college volleyball at Yukon. So they were both there. And so I always was around athletics pretty much my whole life. We were like super competitive. Anytime we get in trouble, we'd be doing like push ups and that stuff. I remember when I was like five years old, like we'd have a game where like my dad would sit on the couch and we'd like go back basically doing like one on one. Like playing receiver and DB versus I have two brothers and a sister. So very competitive household. I started playing football when I was like seven or whatever. Mostly because my dad played football into my older brother. I don't know, I'm not sure if you're all familiar with the like the pop Warner Super Bowl stuff where you like you go to Orlando. So my older brother had done that a couple of times. So after that I was like, okay, I definitely want to start playing football. I started playing, my dad was my coach and then we end up doing the same thing. We went to Super Bowl twice since seventh and eighth grade. And then from there is history high school football. Where do you fall in the siblings?

4:56:40So I've one older brother, me younger brother, younger sister. What's the game most likely to cause a fight if y'all are all playing? Oh, definitely basketball. My little brother was a very big, he was quite the referee during some of that stuff. He'd always get mad and like call penalties and yeah, definitely, I don't know. We played a lot of basketball. We also, we had like our neighbor had like a football. It was just like a, their front yard was like kind of like curved. So we played football on that every time and like you could throw the football over the house for like the deep balls. Nice. It was cool. But yeah, no. We played, we were always outside growing up the whole time. Would you beat your little brother up? The ocean moves us. Whether that's surfing a wave or taking in an inspiring view. The ocean feeds us. Sustainable seafood practices bring the ocean's bounty to our plates. The ocean teaches us. How are everyday choices? Big and small make an impact. The ocean delights us.

4:57:40As playful otters restore coastal kelp forests. The ocean connects us. Find your connection at monoraybeacquarium.org slash connects. Calhsi's own CEO says it himself. And yes, two thirds of people on Calhsi lose money. So what does it take to be in the other third? You have to do extensive amount of research to be good. There are people that spend the copious amount of money, time, resources, energy, they've dedicated their lives to basically becoming good at it. All that and still. And yes, two thirds of people on Calhsi lose money. lose money. That's Calhsi in their own CEOs words. Go to www.fairpredics.com to learn more. So it was kind of a thing where he'd start refit. And it would give me really mad. And then I'd like chase up to him. And then he'd be like, what's that animal that plays dead? Oh, a possum? Yeah, he'd be like a possum. He'd just lay down on the ground. And then I kind of get over him. But I would never actually do anything.

4:58:41Because I don't know. I didn't want to actually hurt him and even go tell my mom or something. I mean, he might have heard of him. Yeah, exactly. But yeah, so there was a lot of that going on. I'm sure he could tell you more. But yeah, you were academic all ACC last year. Yeah. And you're in the business school. Yeah. Both those things are no joke. How do you manage your time to do all these things successfully? Hmm. That's a good question. I don't really know. You just kind of, I feel like if you care about something you can make time, I'm not sure. I've always been like a very big math person my whole life. And luckily for the business school here, that was like the big criteria. Like you'd do the calculus and the stats and the e-con. So that was kind of right up my alley. Not bad. Pass my. Yeah. And then also having like good friends to be around. Like I'm sure you all know Will Hardy and Connor are both in the business school with me too. So like we kind of been on the same track our whole career, which has been pretty cool. And been nice to have like other people around you to help you get better and stuff.

4:59:43Yeah. That sounds like a very intelligent household you guys have. Yeah. You guys just like Friday night or Saturday night after the game everybody's like out and you're like, guys, look, we got some e-con we needed. Celebrate like normal with calculus. Yeah, I guess so. I guess. What do you like to do outside of football? Hmm. I've recently I've gotten into fishing a lot more, which has been we my girlfriend has a beach house or they live at the Act for from Morehead City. And so I went fishing with her dad and stuff and it was really fun. I don't know. We're I like to do very spontaneous things all the time. I'm sure I can talk to y'all more about that later, but I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. It's going to be the first day. Yeah, we I don't know. Me. Me Carnwell do a lot of interesting fun things.

5:00:44I don't know. We played a lot of pickleball and that kind of stuff. I don't know. We did like a whole scavenger hunt one time. It was funny. I don't know. Do a lot of stuff like that. But yeah. Bishing with the girlfriend's dad can be some pressure because like you want to do well, but not too well. Yeah. How did you handle that? I it was kind of he was legit legit. He's lived his whole life. I was not legit. Um, I caught like maybe two fish the whole time, but it was fun. It was sometimes like the great thing about fidget is kind of like more of like just being out there and like the peaceful vibe was almost better than actually catching sometimes. So I thought that was pretty cool. You set up a scavenger hunt? Well, actually Connor will set it up and then he just like randomly like. So like me and Conor were roommates will was not at the time and they just like randomly like put a note card outside my door and then me and Kate law. Yeah. Yeah. And we had, yeah, they just did a whole spontaneous scavenger hunt.

5:01:46And yeah, it was it was fun. It was really cool. Yeah, they like it was yeah, it was at like 6 p.m. or 7 p.m. And we finished at like 10 p.m. But yeah, they were so even in acting. Yeah, yeah, it was it was it was fun though. It was very very creative by Conor. Well, yeah. So there has been a lot that has happened with this team this year, both on the field and off the field. Yeah. How have you guys tried to manage all of that? Yeah, it's just it's a lot to happen to people. Yeah. How have you guys tried to manage that maybe individually and together? Yeah, I think it's definitely everybody handles it a lot different. I mean, just a lot of different, especially like obviously all this stuff with Ty Lee can be very tough. For me, I just tried to keep focused on my goals and trying to individually work to get better. Like and focus even more on football and in school and stuff.

5:02:46I don't know for other people. I think I think that's kind of like the mindset of the whole team is just we want to move forward and in the right way. And I think that by week was very important for us to kind of like take a time out, reset mentally and lock back in. And I think that showed pretty well these past two weeks. You're talking about that first by week. Yeah, the first by week. What's the best advice you got during that time? I think kind of just that like just focus on what's important and like not let the outside noise affect you too much and almost like just shut your ears off to the outside noise and just focus on the next thing ahead of you. And coach Montaquina talked a lot about like you know, you have like the high beams on your cars and like just turn the high beams off. Just focus on what's in front of you right there. And yeah, I think that was pretty good advice. He seems like a really good coach to me. Have you enjoyed working with him? No, he's awesome. He's awesome. Yeah. What is what what does that relationship been like? What what has been beneficial for you?

5:03:46What's been beneficial? He's just the amount of knowledge he has is pretty insane. Obviously he's in the NFL for a long time and coach some pretty dang good players. But just like being able to watch film with him and be able to look at different tells or he does a big like run cut up every week for him. What the teams main runs are. Obviously like this week we were playing like week fours and they do like the big mesh stuff. And so I don't just like little details that a lot of people don't tend to see that we can look closer as. Yeah, he helps a lot of that. Um, coach Brown has talked a lot about and this has been a heavy topic for a lot of you. Particularly with the defensive life. About rotating you guys in more so that the amount of snaps that everybody plays. The ocean moves us surfing a wave or savoring the view. The ocean delights us as playful otters restore coastal kelp forest. The ocean connects us. Visit monoraybeacquarium.org slash connects.

5:04:48Calhchee's own CEO says it himself. And he has two thirds of people on Calhchee lose money. So what does it take to be in the other third? You have to do extensive amount of research to be good. There are people that spend copious amount of money, time, resources, energy. They've dedicated their lives to basically becoming good at it. All that and still. And yes, two thirds of people on Calhchee lose money. lose money. lose money. That's Calhchee in their own CEOs words. Go to www.fairpredicts.com to learn more. Isn't as high at the end of the year. So maybe instead of playing 70 plays early in the season, somebody was playing 40 or whatever. Do you think that's been beneficial? Like, can you tell a difference? Do you think your teammates and your fellow defensive lineman can tell a difference? I mean, there's definitely a big difference. I think last year I was averaging like 15 snaps if that a game. And then now I'm these past few weeks, I've been getting like 30 something. So for me, I mean, I can't speak to the fact of like playing too much and then like your body hurting.

5:05:48Because that wasn't the case for me last year. But I'm sure that like guys like came in and did probably feel that a lot more. So being able to stay fresh is a big thing. Because like, I don't know, like say like you're playing the game for 60 plays and like they're like throwing the ball. And you can't even put your best stuff on film really because you're tired and your gas. That doesn't really work well for anybody. Like so. Like playing more plays is not necessarily equal more production. That's a defending that slow mesh feels like it would be tough. Yeah. What's one or two things I can look for when I'm watching on Saturday that will help me try to be able to figure out what they're doing. The biggest thing Coach Collins has talked about is just like penetrating. Like if you sit there, just sit on the block and just let them do their thing. It's going to put a big bind on the guys in the back end. And because like they have to play the run and the past that whole time. So for us, just being able to penetrate and. We have some really big strong defensive tackles.

5:06:49So the quarterback will like step up really far when they're riding that mesh. So for them to be able to get through the line and get in the quarterback's face. And again, like with him stepping up like getting your hands up was a big thing too. But for us on the edge is just getting off the ball and trying to get to him as fast as we can. That's a big thing putting the pressure on them versus letting them dictate us. That's that's probably the biggest thing I'd say. Alright, three weeks left in the regular season. Yeah. It feels it just feels like a different team. I don't know how else to say it. Like what in your mind is kind of the mindset of these last couple of weeks. And what do you think will be important for you guys to continue to play well? Yeah, mindset wise. I don't know. I think I think we're just starting to focus on like the little things even more. And just completely buying into that. And then I don't know. Everybody is since summer workouts. We've always talked about like we break everything down on champions.

5:07:49And like we want to be the best thing that we can be. And I think now we're kind of like getting towards that point. And just finishing this year, like going three and a half and these last three weeks. I don't know. I feel like that's very important to everybody. And everybody's pretty bought into that. That's my like a cool time. I'm talking about this, you know, just recently. Talking about how what I'm going to do for the homeless. I want to bring that home energy. The he brought. Right. So last year, of course, I'm sure he's been doing for years. But the year when I spent my own, he brought a lot of energy, excitement, happiness in the room, which is his natural energy. So where I had to focus on me, you know, I didn't have to make sure. Other other guys would, you know, feel some type of way when they came in here. Because hump brought that. And I'm a humps not here. But I saw a way different room. I want to be that guy to make sure it's an amptical practice.

5:08:49Everybody's high. More taking a field team on period. You know, it's a low day. There's something, you know, it's a different but like I want to make it feel like home. Like you're parents to trip. I want to bring that because that's what we did to each other. We would have each other do something to walk. We're lit. So I want to do that. I want to bring that energy on and make bring more guys. You know, I want to do that from day one. You know, I kind of, I want to do that from day one. I'm talking to him and obviously it's the time I spend the offices of the four OTAs started. Just being in my self-esteem about what the room needs. You know, because I know I knew a little as one of leaders. You know, my mom's a thumps. Is that we need a guy like that is going to make sure the O-line is picked up. We're ready to go every day. I was held accountable with things don't happen to practice and people are saying anything.

5:09:50And how I believe maybe different than somebody else may believe. You know, like to practice at least like a legal positivity. You know, I mean so. But he, the energy yeah, would be on just like, I'd be on. So I was kind of, I wanted to go on. Really my whole life. I felt like I was in a captain in high school. I wasn't a captain in college. But I want to make a joke on high school. I feel like I'm not going to be a captain like this that I felt. But that would be awesome. You know, but you know, that happens. I'd be great. But not either way. I want to assume a role as a captain from the perspective of guys. On to the video award. And get back in that way. Yeah, I mean, I can't say that. I mean, I guess the biggest thing is that I felt it has felt like how.

5:10:50You used to in the past, but it didn't take just the first day. LTAs it took training left and right. Once this season ended because I know what was going to be the chair. So it took a lot of, you know, grips just to give back to feeling like myself. For what they want to do. And then I'll, firstly, but now like today specifically just changing some small things with my feet. That is it. Talking about the long coach. Some things I can do my feet to get to that, but to sell my nutritional angle that I love to sit on. I thought I felt great already, but I felt even better. Starting to work size tomorrow now. Getting my feedback and how I like the right side and on the left side. So I'm on the right side. I mean, obviously I feel like in the league, whether I left the right, you're still going in this premiere guy. So obviously your high expectations for your left and right tackle. But definitely like the level of energy and like the expectations definitely take the key.

5:11:55Because now tonight it applies like that. That's the, that's the tackle world. You know, so. So yeah, I would say in terms of communication as far as just even outside of the facility, just stuff like that, like really creating that, but tackle quarterback and bond even more off the field. I think has been something that's even cool. I got a text one day. Is that hey, you put it up? I was like, you know, yeah, I've been training both. I've been training both. You know, I asked after the season there, like honestly, you know, we'll talk to you in a certain season. And I just got a text one. I was like, you know, I had a O-season right tackle. So if I get the word, I'm going, I'm standing right, tackle. I'm just doing what I did before I'm built on that. But I saw, I was like, I might as well just train the left tackle now. As if I'm going to be left tackle. And I'd rather do that than train the right time. We're going to call that a left tackle.

5:12:55I was, I didn't wish my feet had. You know what I mean? So I'm like, let me just prepare an advance. I think occasionally on third down there would be a lot of twists. I was just not like it's automatically going. And I think that was my mindset for like the first half of the season. Like I didn't have to go once again with some pros. Like, oh my gosh, they did that. I kind of figured like, okay, like this is this is the type of rush. I'm going to get this is how this guy usually rushes. If I get the vibe, this is how the ends like the rush, you know, tackles that. First year guys, you got the premier patch on already. You know what it was going to be already. You know, we'll be every stunt. And honestly, just knowing that's kind of an advantage to, so you're not, you're not, you're not, oh, they probably twist on my side again. It was never air in the middle of it. But it comes out the high side. Three plays in a row. Two minutes. I knew that it was going to happen. You said a lot of, you know what I mean? I'm watching more everybody else. And you really, you know, it goes out there occasionally. Third down, I was like, you know, I said, are you going to pick me?

5:13:55You know what I mean? So, that effect, it's kind of, it's also kind of an advantage in a way. But it's also exciting, like, okay, I'm going to get the hardest to look. You know, those are real, real reps, you know, the things. Really out on our way to kind of process. And I was like, hey, when I tell me, let me know about, I'm just going to train it. I was training all left. So, TAs, I guess, if I didn't hear anything about TAs, I came in like, so, you know what I mean? Because just like, I'm cool with training both continue. I would have been cool with training both continually. But I feel like anybody in any position will feel like, okay, like, you want as soon as possible to give your feet kind of subtle to it. Your hips subtle to it. Your hands subtle to it. No, certain kind of that. Would it have been harder to hit your workbowl very high to you? No. But, um, they're definitely, but in terms of the development, um, they're definitely a lot faster,

5:14:58they're staying on one side. But I think having that week that we had the transitional seasons over, you've been developing those fun. You know, it would, um, I'm trying to get up, put up my heart, having weak things at a time right now. But when it comes back, I'm going to show them to you on the house. So I've got a house that's not too far from, so I told them, I got that house, like, I got a yellow side. DJ. You know what I mean? So, um, yeah. Track. It's actually like you can, you know, catch a speed under them. You know, I always think when you're in your rookie season, you're going from bowl game. I don't even know Wisconsin playing a bowl game. Sorry, Wisconsin. You know, but, um, you know, personally, I just think when you go from bowl game to training for the combine, to, you know, rookie minicamps, OTAs, the, you know, minicamp, I mean, the training camp, the regular season, you really don't get a time to really catch yourself.

5:16:00You know, you understand to play book now, um, you can be more vocal. Um, you know, I think, with my absence, the other guys' absence, you know, you need guys like that to step up and be ready for those opportunities. What is the surgery you had in Yaw City? The same you had during the season, was it more thorough? Um, just tightened down everything. Um, you know, on my left side, because I was over-compensating a little bit. Um, but, you know, it was, it wasn't anything that lingers, you know. I'll say this, a groin's not like an ACO. It's not like anything's ever going to get back to it again. And, you know, you know, feeling good, able to do everything squat and heavy, with power and speed. So, you know, it feels good to get after it. What do you think of what the team was able to accomplish in our season? In terms of bringing guys like Russ and, you think, Randy? You know, I think they're all good acquisitions, but, you know, you never want to be known as a paper champ. So, you can't win the off season. I think the work gets done out here on the field.

5:17:00It's done in the classroom. Um, it gets done training. Um, you know, and then you see where you're at in training camp. And you build on that. You know, I think we got the right guys in the building. It's just about putting a complete team on the field. Can't have technicalism to separate the business part of the game in the actual football club. Oh, you know, you always want to, you always have to treat it like a business. Because, you know, one day it's going to end. And that's a good job. It's not like in college where, you know, you got four years guarantee. Well, now you don't even know what that I don't know, it's crap. It's a transfer portal portal. But, you know, you have to, I still have love for this game. And I still work my tail off. And I still put everything into it. And that's not going to change. But, you have to know what you bring to the team and what your value is.

5:18:00Can't be how you want it to be out there with your teammates today emotionally. Great, you know, we got a new training staff. I'm still learning the warm up. A little different. But, you know, I loved it. You know, just getting after it. Learning new guys. Going through the same drills I've been doing by myself. I actually like having more people around. Because, like, kind of go stir crazy when it's just you and another guy. You're like, damn, I got to go back up for another rep already. And so, you know, it's nice to be up here and get a chance to be with my guys. Can we come up there and get down with your emotion? Oh, I'm going to try to remain pretty neutral. Because, you know, I don't want to be to either way. All I know is I want to be here. But, we'll see what happens. It's my last year here. I've had a great career here.

5:19:00But, I look forward to playing next year. What that second surgery you said at this time was on the left side. Was the first time around on the right side? Right side during the season. Left side. And that was just tightened down my core muscle. It wasn't the same as my ad doctor. You know, you can ask Dr. Bradley. Dr. Zuckerbron, who did the surgery as well. If anything, it's going to help me. It'll make me a lot stronger for him. You said you were training with another guy who have you come to me? Tyson, I've been training with him for the last eight years. We've always trained together. We've got a trainer up north, Cheryl Cohele, who's my guy. He trained a Heath Miller, Brett Kiesel, multitudin guys that I'll respect. And we've just been getting after. Very few guys historically, 35, they paid big contract. And that's held against you. I think there's not a lot of history behind it.

5:20:02But, you know, for me, I look at it as I'm not looking to be like anybody else. You know, my game is different from everybody else in the sleep. You know, I like to think, you know, I can play the run in the pass. And that's where I'm different. You know, I remember last year Mike T. He just brought to my attention, you know, the thing that's really cool is you watch powerlifters. And, you know, my game's built on power and technique. And those guys go into the 40s. And so, you know, that's what kind of research I'm doing in the high end of the scenes. But, you know, we'll see what happens. There's not a lot of history, but I'm here to make history. And I'm here to win another Super Bowl here. And, you know, hypergraces. Do you have a set goal for yourself on how many years you want to play in the NFL? Do you just take things here right here? You know, it was top answering that question right after the season. I will say this guys, I can't keep answering that question right after the season. That is not fair to the season that's not fair to my family.

5:21:06You know, but in my mind, I got three years. And I want to maximize them. I want to play at a high level. And I want to go deep into playoffs. And, you know, we got a good team. And I'm going to do my part to be ready for all those situations. You've been playing on practice in the New York Port of the Church, or is it possible that you might fold in and, of course, the issues? I have not even thought that far. I've taken a day. You know, I told my agent, and we talked about it. I mean, we were cool coming out here. You know, I'll be here for many. And then I'll be there for training. I know what the work entails, but when we get there, we'll cross that bridge. Why did it not bring you more? Remain a steel work with us for years. You know, there was a conversation between me, Omar and Mike T. And there's certain guys that are one-helma guys. I want to be one of those one-helma guys.

5:22:08And, you know, there's a hunger and desire there. It doesn't mean just hanging it up and calling it a career. To me, I think, you know, I got more bullets to fire. And, you know, I'm excited to do that. What's the meaning of last one? Can you and Russell Wilson are going to be out there with Walter Payton Man in the year patch? I saw Russ as, on social media. But I have an idea to see it. I like the surprise happens when it happens. But, you know, it's cool to have another, I'll spend a million, you know, you're a winner. I think it's an honor to be there. The Ocean Delights us as playful otters restore coastal kill for us. The Ocean teaches us how our choices impact even the deepest places. The Ocean connects us. Visit monoraybayacorium.org slash connects. CalSheezone CEO says it himself. And, yes, two thirds of people on CalShe lose money. So, what does it take to be in the other third?

5:23:08You have to do extensive amount of research to be good. There are people that spend copious amount of money, time, resources, energy, their dedicated, their lives to basically becoming good at it. All that and still. And, yes, two thirds of people on CalShe lose money. That's CalSheez, in their own CEOs' words. Go to www.fairpredics.com to learn more. I'll say one thing. I won't be here. I'm just telling you guys, so it's not a big deal. I won't be here because I have to do a water-painting man-year thing on Thursday. It's not like I'm skipping. But it's an honor to be with Russ and it's an honor of doing things in the community. Doing great work. The cool thing is, as much as we get honored and nominated for these things, the work doesn't stop. And I can see that with Russ' foundation, we had an event for our foundation.

5:24:09My mom was quick to tell Russ, hey, we need the partners somehow. I was like, mom, let's just enjoy the event. But it's really cool to be a part of a lead group. All right. Thank you. Thank you. Appreciate the time. Since you guys are both throwing forward, I'm wondering, do you have a relationship or no, Jade? What are your thoughts on his game? He's a tremendous player. He's played really well this year. Watching his film, he's made a lot of plays. They do a really good job on their defense. But I don't know a person. Thank you. Our next question is going to come from Donovan Bridgeport. Donovan, go ahead. I think he went through his question. We will go to Kurt Bowles. Hey, Caleb. I just can ask you about the Michigan thing. Texas obviously went up there and Harvard beat him. And you all had your issues with him.

5:25:10You put his stock in there. Or was that Texas Michigan game just so long ago? It doesn't matter at all. I mean, at this point in the season, it's one of our homes. So really, whatever happens in the past, that's not having any stock or anything. It doesn't mean anything. So we have to play on Friday. And that's really all that matters. We're going to take two more from Zoom before turning it back. Our first one is going to come from Stephen from Cleveland.com. Go ahead. It's the final. Hey, Caleb. We've seen you were talking about the Ohio State Office the success that they've had. Obviously, Jeremiah has been a big part of that. What's it been like this year going against him in practice? And after doing that, does this surprise you at all to see him having a success he's had as a freshman? No, it doesn't bring any surprises. It was pretty easy to see the talent that he has and the blessings that God has put on his plate. But it's always a challenge going against Jeremiah

5:26:10and the other receivers in Mecca and Karnel in practice. And even guys like Brandon and his impression riders, they do a great job bringing looks for the defense and create a lot of obstacles. Our final question from Zoom is going to come from Dan Hope. Go ahead, Dan. Caleb, you've been had a lot of success against you guys when you played him at Alabama last year. Just what do you remember from going up against him last year and what can you learn from Mecca? Really smart quarterback knows how to operate their offense. Push the ball in the right places. And then Coach Sarkeesian does a great job putting him in positions to win. All right, back to you. Yep, thank you, Rob Aller. Columbus Dispatch. Caleb, JT and Jack Planobson sides. And they is opposite off the field as they are on in terms of personality and just the people they are. They're offices, but they're also like one of the closest people I know they spend a lot of time together.

5:27:10They've come from different sides of the country so they're different people for sure. But they're both really great people. A really great man. I'm sorry to spec both of them. How did you do that? I'm not going to do that. I'm sorry. I'm not going to do that. It's about to ask the war on podcast. Throughout the season we would always see you on Wednesday nights you and Nathan would be some of the last people off the field. But the things that you're working on after a practice always the same. Is it a routine? What are the things that you're hoping to get out of those extra moments after practice? It's a routine, pretty much the keys that we need to go into the game with. And then also changes week to week on based on what our jobs are going to put us into doing. So every week we go through the same things and then we add certain things that we do for the what the team that we play is going to ask us to accomplish.

5:28:10Bill, we've been on this club this past. Yeah, I already got one here. Oh okay. I joined off and called this back. Kelvin. When Texas uses play action and Nathan uses play action for a bit, what do they do? What do they do? What are those spots and what's the things that you guys in those moments with Quinn? They do a really good job with I candy. And it creates a lot of challenges for defense in order to see if it's a runner pass and see because that's when they're going to take their shots to as well. So really just having great eye discipline, seeing the line and seeing what it's just telling us. So that's what it is. Deep right. Nick Walker, Letterman Rural. Hey, you guys had a pretty good game plan for Tyler Warren when you guys played him. You guys have another Texas weather good tied in and Gunnar Homme. What are you guys going to have to do to limit him and how do you think about his game? He's a really good player. He makes a lot of plays and he has a lot of receiving yards this year. So really just do the same thing we've done all year. Just be disciplined in our responsibilities.

5:29:13And if you're on them, you got to make the play when it comes. Right, part of the Mandarin build it. Playman.com. When you look at their receivers, it's kind of a whole, you know, they spread the ball around and seems like a lot of what stands out about the way they can spread the ball around with those. You guys. A lot of really good athletes. I played with Isaiah Bond last year who's a really great receiver. A lot of speed. And then all their receivers have made a lot of plays. So everybody has to be on their peasy cues if we're going to stop them and have a do a really good job. Front row here. Tim May, Letterman Row. Yeah, Kale, but you moved up here and I don't have to tell you when you moved. Basically a year ago. And stuff. It was a little bit of a leap of faith because you know how many athletes are on this team. Good athletes to stuff. But when did you really feel this defense come into its own? And then then pass that man watching in Rose Bowl, you're recognition of what was coming seem to be on point. Did it feel like that? I mean, you personally.

5:30:14I think the defense has played really well throughout the season. I think we've had games where we've played better and games where we haven't put it all together. But I think that's how all defenses are. So I can't say there's a certain moment where I think we put it together. But was it second party question? You seem really on point against Oregon about recognizing what was coming. I mean, you were really active out there directing and things like that. Did it feel like that? I feel like as Luke said earlier, the preparation that we put in goes into that and just feeling comfortable and what we're doing, comfortable and what we're seeing with the other teams. I feel like that allows us to play fast and can me and Laketon to communicate to everybody else. Do I miss anyone for questions here? Steve, how long have you been playing in this sports? Yeah, Caleb, but you came to Ohio State to play for National Championship. And there were a lot of ups and downs throughout the season. Just to be in this position, the last four teams still live.

5:31:14You feel validated by that. And did you always have faith that this is how it was going to turn out? I came to Ohio State to become a better player and to help the team be as good as it can be. Not to win a National Championship. Not like that wasn't the only goal for me coming here. Really just wanted to be in the team and be with the brotherhood. But it's a great feeling being in the final four and being with the team and everything that comes with that. But it's a blessing to be here. And one final question, Bill, where Ben went to club this past? Yeah, I did want to follow up. When I talked to you at that time of the game, you said when they scored there first and second touchdown, you were really hot on the sidelines. What was your message to the team? And you know, that's a good offense. They're going to score against most people. Why were you so hot? Really just because we didn't execute, which let them score. So we've done that a lot, which is something we can't do in these big games and these games where it's winter go home. So we got to make the plays when they come and get our competitive excellence as Coach Dases make the play where your number's called.

5:32:20Caleb, thank you very much. Hey everybody. Let's say first, the ball will try to get a bit like so far. It's been good. A lot of learning, obviously. Just trying to adjust everybody, adjusting this game and see where you fit in that. But it's been good. Can I ask you the other night of the game? Game action first time since you played in the ball game. How did you feel? I felt good. Good. Good way to get your feet wet, especially to do it close to home here. You're special to me, so it was good. I'm glad it happened that way. You know how much family there? Yeah, I got to see a bunch of people. So yeah, couldn't ask for any more. I just can't think. I wouldn't have been thinking about it. It's been good. I mean, just trying to, it's just a different way of play, different terminology, different, to hold different schemes. So just learning how they want things done compared to how you used to do things is really the... What's it like being in that tight end room? Everybody's got that skills. Everybody's got everybody else. You saw that same thing. Right. Yeah, no, it's a great room. A lot of really good guys have grown really close with a lot of those guys.

5:33:23So everybody helps each other. A really nice learner from Dalton, breadin' those guys. Dalton's done it for a really long time. So he helps me a lot with things that really aren't coachable things. You know what I mean? I mentioned how the family at the game, but what about working out here at this high school? You're still in Ohio that's got to feel good. And I don't know if your high school is like this. Man, it's feels like a different name. I went to Lexington, how it's about the eighth of the size of this place. Yeah, this is not like my high school, but this is a healthy place. But super cool to be home and just be back and give you a little sense of comfort, I guess for me, especially being my way for as long as I've been. So I've been in the kind of role around the city. Have you seen a bunch of black-eyed fans that have wanted to get your autographs to take a picture while you've been here? I don't get, I don't go out of the hole. I actually went home yesterday. I went back to the farm for a little bit, which was great for a couple of days. He did all my family and stuff and see my grandparents and everything. So it was good. But I really haven't been out enough to know. So I try and keep her inside. Yeah.

5:34:23What do you think of your play in that really show-based and stuff them up? Oh, that's a good question. I don't think that's for me. I'm just trying to give. I mean, every time you can play this game for 50 years, there's always going to be something you leave the field with. I wish I would have a better and that area. I wish I would have a better and some other. You know what I mean? It's never going to be. This is absolutely perfect. So like to me, that's right now the hardest part of this is just mental toughness of all. I mean, physical toughness. I mean, you either have it or you don't, in my opinion. So I mean, I've always felt like I was kind of bred in that area of the things. And that's just kind of way happens naturally. So just play it. That's kind of how we roll. I'll say good. Thank you guys. We're going to get you on the phone. It was just different. I can feel the difference out here when we're in that 225. I feel like I'm running like a flash right now. So. How do you feel the difference with that? Yeah, my speed. I definitely feel quicker and more explosive. Just, you know, getting out the ball and, you know, just continually working in my short area burst as flinkly as possible. So do you want your expectations?

5:35:24This room. Oh, you guys got that one. You know, what I thought about the room is that we don't always be a brotherhood and always be at one time. What's been your experience so far here and versus the expectation? Obviously coming in, there's an opportunity to play earlier. A lot of opportunity to play a lot. How have you seen this place change you and has been what you expected? I've been off the charts. Like just, you know, they developed me like some day one like just they are stepped on campus. We, you know, work out. We talked about my in habits. We're going to get to my body weight. What I need to improve on till, you know, development to NFL running back and have an opportunity, you know, to get to that level. And just them invested into me as much as possible. Like they and they are they invest a lot. Is it surprising? I mean, West Virginia is a powerful school very, very good program. Do you see the difference quickly when you're getting to a place like last week? Definitely, the resources around Ohio State, you know, is definitely, you know, have a, we have a larger frame of resources around here.

5:36:30So that's definitely one of the biggest things that I could say that's different than my career was in the first year. CJ, when you were back in December before you even started talking to Ohio State, what, what thing do you want to know when you were in the first year? Are you going to coach this change? Is that primarily the reason? It was, it was a line to, you know, you have to think about your family, you and like, what do you want to get out of this? This is my last opportunity, you know, guarantee I'm going to have a chance to play football because the next level is not promised. You have to, as you say, earn that. So I just, you know, I just took a chance of myself, you know, you got better than certain all times. Did you have any previous relationship with Coach Long? Not at all. What, what kind of sit out from your first question to come in? He said he's going to challenge me and help me develop until a great man and a player. He didn't talk too much about football, you know, he talked more of these personal life things. Is it helped to seem like when Sean come in last year as a transfer, I've succinct back right away like this, is that something you would get at the most? Actually, you know, I watched a Q game, you know, because he was that Ole Miss when I kind of jumped on the scene to the West of the Dins.

5:37:31So I definitely like analyze the game a lot. And you know, him just being with Coach Long, I can see it. I want to say a big difference, but you can see the little intensibles that he added on to him to help his game, you know, develop in that way to, you know, now have an opportunity to be a high jacktricken in his head. I just lost this track at 230 miles up in the middle. It's a 2.38, he says he likes you. 230, why is that? 226 actually. Yeah, I thought he was. Why did you want to do something like what did he want to do? He wanted me to, you know, be more explosive and, you know, have a more short area burst. That's something that I like in my game, and he continued to tell us a little work on that game there. What's my first love like, how is it now? That's amazing. You know, he's going to coach you hard, but he loves it. And he does it because he's on the, you know, he loves all of it. Like, you go coach your hard, you go push you, and you go hold your accountable, but he does that because he loves us. And as is overall, and how he's been activating into the program. Amazing. I got one of my great fans right here. You know, he kind of like, you know, that's big growth. He kind of like, you know, taking the industry, telling you the things to do with them, but not the new, you know, because he was transferred just like new to it.

5:38:36So he tells you like, you don't do that. We don't do that here. We do this and do that here. So, you know, just you know, the family, you know, that I got other guys on the team who I proved to play against, like Jeremiah Smith, Brandon, and his Kiyada. I kind of was like familiar with like a couple of things on the team and they trying to bring me along as a team as I was a transition to the program. He's called, we're going to do a thing. He did to get this 226. Did you guys, did you work out on what some of the changes that you made to get? He lost that thing. He let's prepare this for him. The dietitians, she helped me schedule out a meal planning. The times I need to eat what I need to eat, what I need to stay away from, what time I need to go to bed, stay on a routine that allows me to, you know, contain the darkness, quickly and as. How should I say this, as quickly and as the like the right way of possibly that is like to send it down and make it like, you know, still working with it as so I can be a sector member. I'm here to diet like different foods. Was there a moment you were like, there was my partner, I was a doctor, it was kind of like a certain moment, a passion for the pain.

5:39:42Yeah, James Feet was, you know, he's a great competitor. When I first got here in the winter, he pushed me day in and day out. I still remember this, we was doing sleds and you know, we were kicking my butt day in and day out. But you know, that has helped me, you know, until my game was stepped up as a third, I need to be. Last but not least, what was it to you, maybe this morning, this afternoon, this afternoon, but I'm not. You know, just the style of the offense, you know, we were more balanced, you know, we, more like the NFL, as you would say, we either lost our players in fact, or the adhesion to the best of our abilities. I was looking at the silver first round of this year and I remember the next seven or eight net boxes in the pop. I don't know if you're going to call about that, but was anything of your kind about wanting to go to an office, have your balance and maybe, you know, kept deep that's his honest. Not at all. I didn't consider it. I didn't. So whatever was Jay and coach Tristan, you can do us.

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