Press Conference (Ethan Onianwa) Elite Edition September 2

0:00So how did the visit go? Oh, it was great. Yeah, I loved it. The staff here in Catelle has really good family ties and strong connection. What were some things that you were looking for on your visit? Whether it's talking to coach Norval, stewing, I guess what was important to you on this visit? So, I mean, for me, I mean, this was kind of a big decision for me where I decided to like not fish my degree of rest and then from the courtroom to the side. And I find the place where I can develop the most. And then just to go to a wine coach, you know, final place where I can face a good competition, not only in games, but also in practice as well. And probably the most important is just finding a good guy that are dedicated to winning, dedicated to it to being great because I mean, we have a team of me guys who aren't serious about wanting to be great. He's wasting time and money, so I mean, to the problem, I'm not big green with the culture being kind of important. Being around the coach of hand today, what was kind of the things that you noticed around

1:04him, just whether it's how he is or just what your thoughts of him being around him most of life? He's an incredibly detailed guy. Yeah, I got that for sure from him. It's like Washington Phil, like he broke down, just like some gang fun with me, and he also kind of broke down. And the guys that he's coaching the past that are similar to me. And you know, it was a, it was just show how good a coach he is. Getting no coach from a bellgrain this experience, what has happened? It was good. He's a very passionate guy. And I mean, I loved that. But a head coach should have that and, you know, you can tell how much he cares about what the guys want to program about the psyche being dedicated, being driven to win and to succeed. What did they tell you about the opportunity here in SCARZ, meeting a player of your sort at a position? Well, I mean, they see me at a left tackle and it was, I'll be a good fit, you know, coming in. I was a coach, no golf, stress, you know, and also the other great, I want to focus

2:04on blind men in the portal that have lots of risk of being able to say that Phil lives on now, be a good fit when a coach is, such as what you guys do. What's kind of the ultimate feeling now about FSU? Have you solved this big experience with them? What's kind of the feeling about them? Yeah, it's definitely a good feeling. It's great. I don't know. I'm glad that I was actually able to come down here because I mean, the Zoom calls and the phone calls are nice, but, you know, in person is a lot different. And this is a good to know the staff here, a good to know coach here, a coach, but all of it is a great experience. Who else have you checked out during this process? What are their schools? Well, I've talked to some other staff, talked to a house in Iowa and A&M, really just, yeah, that's what I've been, I've tried to keep the short-cathed and try to keep the sweet, or really need to be 20 bucks a schools. I mean, that's not the main priority. Are you entering decision mode now or do you intend to take some trades in Army January? Yeah, I'm going to be one of those.

3:05I'm going to be one designed. Sometimes I'm focused. What all? For those of us who have seen the mid with the highlights of the mid with kind of your strengths and areas that you're looking to improve. So, shrink wise, I would say probably just move in. I mean, I'm so going to go short. I'm a big love for a 300, a 400-top-top guy. I have a big son. I quite, I've never done an off-thul. It's like I've done to get my stances. I think you could be so big, and it's going to be able to go to other people. But at the same time, also, doesn't need to insistent and can't place a bunch on a forward you in general to technique. I mean, if you're a big strong guy, you can only do so much. You don't have to write to any of these. That's a big reason why I want to have a good online coach for the world. So, we'll find out that it needs to be precise with everything. Yeah, that's kind of like what we're doing. That's a little tricky. Cool. I think that's the first thing I want to do today is coach Day and mention that Austin served over us for the time of the guy again.

4:07What have you seen from him, the soft season, and how soon did he kind of flip that switch we saw? I think this guy is legit about what he wants to do in 2025, or go down the last season. Yeah, I think Austin's always had a good demeanor about him. I think he's elevated that even more. I think it feels like there's been a lot of police that he's instilled in himself to see himself do that over time. And really he's just been really impressive. He's one of those guys, in my opinion, that he's just don't talk about a lot because he does everything right. When you're playing online, you're always at the point of the attack. So it's easy to get exposed. The people are talking about you a lot. It's usually not a good thing. And Austin is the complete opposite. So we'll make sure to identify all these great things he's doing. He just continually does his job at a high level. And I expect that to continue. I expect that to develop more and more into a leadership role, which we already feel. And be a mainstay and bring along that online group, which we're excited about.

5:14So Austin's a big topic. Brian, I think it was around the same last year where people were talking about Brandon being such a big leader behind the scenes. And I know he didn't play maybe Starter Smash last year, but how important was he to just what you wanted that room, the chemistry of your video work? And how much brother you see from that? Yeah, Brandon's always been a big part of our senior wise coach really. He drives it, he helps run it. Carnell was taking a big role in that as well this year. Frankly, all those guys are stepping up. And Carnell, JJ, David Adolf, these guys are all, I've made progression. And from a leadership standpoint, those guys are really trying to take over with BIP and they're at the forefront of that. So I expect that. And that's good. He holds himself to a high standard, but I want him to start bringing more and more guys at all. And that's a fashion. Brian, you're also the best thing that Jeremiah does in the plays and the reps when he tells him how to do that. You know, I think that best thing Jeremiah does is just, he just always wants to learn.

6:16So as a coach, you can't, you know, maybe him. You can't like put him on a pedestal. He does not want that. So he being held accountable, you know, there have been opportunities and then he finished more and held the ball on your hands, turned up field. I identify it and he applies it. So I'm not going to say there's one individual thing in the ball's hands. I think just overall for him, he's always trying to learn, he's always trying to contribute whether he's that. He knows a decoyish mentality or blocking mentality, because he's a big guy or whatever that role is, he just loves learning the why and then I'm playing it in that role in that play. Brian, we've been running for the last week, which they talked about, Parnell, maybe taking the biggest strides out of anyone in terms of leadership this season. Did you guys have the push now? Was that all kind of him naturally kind of stepping into that role? No, it's more him for sure. There's probably a conversation that I'm going to say that, you know, we know you're capable

7:17of this. Why not be this guy? Whatever those conversations are between myself and coach making coach day. But ultimately, you know, players apply, players choose to do things. We can recommend and suggest all we want, but ultimately players are responsible for making plays and making changes. So I would agree with coach. She strides, loving for it. He's the right kind of guy for it. He's the right kind of well. We don't know BS kind of guy. A lot of guys had a lot of respect for him. So doing a great job after we love it, and then those conversations that had were received, and a lot of sees really taking the reins of it and ran with it. All right. Go ahead. Talk to the board about what it takes for kind of a second group to get on field and play saying those guys. Are you seeing that maybe more of an opportunity to have some rotation this year, given what you've gotten in terms of experience and whatnot behind the first three years?

8:20Yeah, there's always a chance. I mean, there's so many reps being had in practice. And you're either, you know, playing at the level of the guys that are starting or you're not. Ultimately, that sort of comes down to you, right? So if you can match the execution level and or a bet or whatever, ultimately the film tells you who should be on the field on Saturdays. And at what point in the game, you know, and whether it be situationally or not. And guys maximizing his rep opportunities ultimately dictates how that works. So we've got lots of reps, really inspiring. And we got two fields going. We got tons of reps happening. And more times than that, it kind of shows itself. But yeah, I view that frankly every year. It's the same opportunity, but those guys just have to do it. And, you know, we love defining roles, but guys define roles. And they earn ways.

9:21And if you keep it that way, ultimately the respect in your room and the position room on your team should stay true. And so a lot of competition right now, a lot of good stuff happening. We're just going to try to see who does it more consistently over time. Yeah, I think him going through his first spring really helped him first winner, really helped him being grounded for his first for a summer. And instead of showing up and having acclimations for a month before you actually could end it, I mean, all of those things almost makes you feel like you're in your third year. Like for Jeremiah, or these young guys that came in this year to come in January. But at the time you get to your second year, you almost feel like it's your third year. Because you've worked with Coach Mac, you've had a spring, you've had a summer, you've had a fall camp, you've had a fall season.

10:25And you're like, gosh, it's only a second year. I always say when you come in June, it's still all new until you get back to June. And so that's what my own experience, my own now, I mean, he fully understands. Like, I mean, there you don't understand it. I'm good, I'm good, I'm good. You don't realize it. So, yes, and it gets your question long windedly and say that my own is in a really good spot. And he's put himself in a position to compete for getting on the field, whether it be offensively or special teams, I expect him to earn roles in special teams even before you even get on offense. That's how we're built here, right defensively and offensively. You can't get on special teams. I don't know how you expect to put it off of the defense. So, you know, the guys on special teams are the best football players, period. So, those guys, I like to see him on in that light, but obviously he had a great spring. He's growing and I want to see him keep building on what he's doing. Don't want to have step backs. I know he's not going to understand the progression he's on is really good.

11:27What kind of asset is Tyler? It's been lost couple of streets. Yeah, I love really enjoyed getting to know Tyler. I think really how they have his football IQ and his personality and how he commands with his room and his guys and how he puts relationships. The overall having Tyler in the building is a great honor, a great, great, great, great situation. What do you expect? I mean, I can't say that anything like it's only day two. So, like, we're going to see about the body of work. These guys have, they've done a pretty good job of making the plays we're supposed to make. And then we'll go from there. So, they one day to install. We're looking at the body of work for guys to separate themselves, not just today or day. But the quarterback, so just kind of a general, like, what are you looking to see first day, second day, third day? Consistency. What you do most often is exactly who you are.

12:28So, when you consistently make the play, because it's the communicator, because it's the loud, because it's energy, consistently to par well, whatever that is, the consistency level of anybody ultimately dictates your identity. So, we're chasing that. That's too early right now to speak past that, but like, when he built... I was talking yesterday about how important the cadence is with the quarterback, so what he's looking for there. Have you seen both those guys deliver what you're looking for? Yeah, they're going to go job their own with it, and they understand it's a weapon. Right, it's my only chance to talk about it. David, eight off on the call line. All you see is the quarterback going to California. Working out there and bonding. You have a time, you have a different thing that's that, and you can have that time to move together. Yeah, I think anytime you can work together, guys are getting a feel for each other. Not only just, oh, he throws the ball like this. It's more about the camaraderie. He has my back. More than anything, you can't challenge a relationship, you don't have a relationship.

13:31So, you can't challenge a guy, you can't be out of guy, you can't get, you know, push a guy, unless a leg ship is built first. So, the faster you get the relationship built, the quicker you can get to uncomfortable conversations, and then ultimately you grow. So, during the foundation, it's still number one, and those guys doing that in their own is a good sign. You're in space in the way, when you're able to do it in a way, obviously you work here the most, and you're able to get away, kind of keep being together, and kind of push each other in that sense. How much does that help you build on this? I don't know how much you're pushing each other on your own. I mean, again, when they're on their own, they're going to do it on their own time. And so, it feels a little more ownership, I think, at times when you do stuff like that. But, again, ultimately, it's just the bond going. What's up? What's new? It wasn't there in January.

14:33But, it's obvious now. Oh, yeah, it's all personal. Oh, my goodness. You work a little bit about the cool basketball. That seems like a business real offseason. What can you learn about it? It was awesome. We were playing full basketball, and we're literally trying to drown each other to win. I didn't care. There was no fouls. We just want to know who could execute Mike the plays. Coach is included. And, literally, when I say nothing was off limits, there was nothing else. And, you know, I mean, it was a lot of fun. It was a lot of fun. The guys in the locker used the best play. The whole basketball? I mean, it's not real basketball. Yeah, but like, that's what it says in the drive. Is it a value-weight?

15:34Yeah, I know. I don't like it. I think of our coach. He's the best player. The guy's in the locker. I think of our group. There was a three-something that was pretty good. It went all along there. But then, me, JJ, and who else beat him? No, I did not. We lost the first time. I forget who just was. But it was, it was Carnell. It was BI. And it was Lincoln. It was three. We could not, they went for a run. Good seven or eight, a row. We did some bad turnovers in our first game. We were identifying as though it's up this competition. We got a chance to plan again, but there was like an eighth game. And we dominated. We've heard a lot about Lincoln's athleticism. How much does it show up in everything? It seems like it seems like it does involve baseball, full basketball. Do you see it everywhere? It is a competitive.

16:34You know, I think that's the biggest thing that comes off on the bench, and it's enjoyable to look sports with him. He's on your side. We plan as much. So I just wanted to get like more experience under my belt. So I can bring younger guys with me because I've been through a lot. One of those younger guys we're seeing it out here. It's the first time in a sport like this. What have you seen from Will? We all forgot about him because he was hurt. Now he's running almost a second man out of the high-even. What have you seen from the baseball? Will is a workhorse. He goes stay quiet. He goes work hard. That's all I love about him. He focuses. He don't really talk much. He's going to get the job done. Do a job right. Rarely has any mistakes. What would be a successful season? A national championship. A ring. When all the games we don't want to lose anything. We got a mindset that we can't be beat. And we just got to go show it. That mindset is different.

17:35It seems like you guys expect a national championship every year. This year even more so. You guys have all come back for this. You guys have all decided like an opposite one. Does that feel the difference? Or is it not really any difference? It's just the same work. It's definitely a difference. Everyone working harder. We noticed our last run. Most of us don't have any years after this. So we got to go bigger going home and we're not trying to go home. Finish big. We know what you guys think of Michigan. When you look at what they did, they won the national championship. And you guys took them down to the final minute. Right? You know what I mean? You were right there. Something goes a little different. You guys could have won that game against them. Does that tell you anything about like that? Hey, you guys want to win a national championship. But you played to the 59th minute with the team that won the national championship last year. Like you're that close. So I'm saying we just work harder. That's kind of a coach that makes a saying. You know, nobody cares. Just work harder. Like those, you know, when we played Georgia, it's the same thing. Yeah.

18:35Last, last play, you know, they went on the win in 90s. So we just got to get over that hump at the end of the season. I think we'll be fine. How frustrating is that? You're that close against the last two national titles. Of course it is, you know, it's frustrating. But you can't change the outcome. You can't really dwell on it. You just got to, you know, come back and work harder. Do things better than you did last year. And hopefully the outcome will change. Is that as you get older, you kind of learn. I thought that was working hard, but then you always find out there's a little more. You could have been doing it. Yeah, definitely. I mean, that's how that's what growing up is basically in college. I thought freshman year I was working. It's hard as I could, but now I look back at it. I really wasn't working hard at all compared to what I'm doing now. So just to learn anything. If the stamina is a 16, then the answer is like, what do you need it to be to be your best? It's 75. 80, 85. I mean, I can, it's all on me. I think it's a little higher. I was just trying to be funny, but I mean, it's all on me. I just got to run harder in shape.

19:36So that's the stamina. Do you have the heart? It's been a thing. Yeah. The idea of a potential is 16 or 17 or 17. Yeah. So, I have about that idea. Does it make you nervous about, can you last that long? Do you really need a word? You just need to listen to what I got. I think. I think I definitely can last. I was just, you know, we got to get the young guys that come along with us. We can't play 50 snaps again. That's just too much on our bodies. Just everybody's like, online, D-line. We got to get those younger guys to play, you know, get that pieces on the D-line and the online. And everywhere else. So we can last that long. Speaking of which, I was like playing the dog. I'm a snap. Did you like playing that many snaps again last year? I don't know if any of us were really expected to be playing that many snaps. Yeah, I did. Unless we were like winning by like a lot. I thought like, there are no moments you know, I can go sit down or something. But we're playing them big games like, you know, Notre Dame, too, or North, those kind of games. Of course I want to be, because I know I can contribute. And I won't want to put that on anyone else when I know I can get the job done.

20:37What stands out about Taden McDonald? You got the team. You got the little second here. Oh yeah, definitely. K-Mac is a K-Mac's animal. You haven't really seen it yet, but in practice he shows it all the time. He's just, he's grown right now. He has a work ethic. He just has to get, you know, in the playbook, things like that. You guys are about the exact same size. Listen, you're both listening to 6th or you're 327, he's 326. Yeah, he's very often. I kind of look at him like my junior, but you know, K-Mac, he's going to be a great player. He's just got to develop more and getting to playbook. So really a lot on you older guys. There's that large group of young guys and then there's these seniors in the back. Is that part of your task for this year to bring those guys along as well? Yeah, definitely. We got to be leaders. Like I said, we got to have them play this year. We can't just play all the snaps. They got to get in there and get some work. And we got to get them right, earn all season so they can play. And not just play, they want to like contribute, like make plays, tackle, and sex. It stays out of our hands, right? Yeah, it seems like these guys get bigger.

21:39Each one of the freshmen class is a bigger, bigger player. Do those guys kind of, those are going to kind of while you're on the first? Yeah, they're definitely some big dudes. And they all work hard. I've only seen much of some day too when I'm passing on. But throughout the workouts, they've been working hard. They're determined. I would say that. It looks like they're ready to work with me. How important this notes feels like. There's a lot of great defenses that you have big athletic defensive tactics who can eat up space, but also move, right? It is that. Is that an environment maybe for great defense? To have guys like you that have some fault, but also a great feeling. I think that is definitely, I think if you look at the last couple of national championship winners, like Team up North, they didn't know they got two good, uh, detaco, two athletic detacos. Look at Georgia, two athletic detacos. I think that's definitely neat if you want to go on that big run and beat those big teams. If you think about this, they're going to be defied by the defense attack.

22:39What's Georgia, Jordan Davis and Daniel Carter? Let's miss again. It's Chris Jenkins. Couple more questions. You get this funny, like how? I mean, you understand it because you play it, but I feel like some time, I don't know, are people realizing how important defense tackles are? A little bit more than they used to? I think so. I think they're starting to develop more and more of these like freakiest detacos. Yeah. Like in the combine, just now, you see in like those guys, they're moving four to four, seven, eights and things like that. So we'll see. And when you think about those freakiest out there, how do you think you fit into that old, of that kind of player? You watch that and say, yeah, that's me. Yeah, definitely. I think I'm top notch when it comes to detacos, but I don't want to, you know, get a big head, but you know, watch it come on. I watch it do the drills. I have a tape here, you're like, you're looking like my film. So I think I'm up there with all those. Do you become like a artist? Do you become like a artist? I think your legs have your things. I mean, you're going to bring practice.

23:39You're not doing as much a weapon or weapon. That's strong. How do you work on that? Do you have like a goal in mind? I don't remember how many that last year, like you haven't gone on that. How many people do you want to have? I mean, as many as I can have, I think I have more than that. But I think they've counted. I think they've counted some of them. And it's some of them where I like just listed. So, but I think we work on drills matching the hand. I think that's, uh, goes big. And, uh, what we do is a D line, you know, just affecting the quarterback is. Any way you can is just great for the defense. You know, just that little thing covering his eye, you know, he might throw it. A little bit to the left to our player. So, so it's something that you really, really have to work on. You do that with what you do. It's a theory that's one of the things that you maybe worked on the most. You can bring your time here because there are a few guys that I've seen. Like, oh, that pass through the back. We don't have to ask for this title. We're kind of kind of expected for the next one. I think I just have like a, like, an eye for the ball kind of. I kind of just look at the quarterback and just, I see him like load up. I just try to get in his ways.

24:40And sometimes he just throws it to me. I'm irritated if you want to be a high state quarterback. I mean, they get frustrated by, you know, we're a team, you know, we're just getting ready. We're just getting ready. Yeah, a lot of, a lot of different backs, man, they just learn to grow for them. You got to pick your top three backs. You got to go right now. One, two, three. Uh, I don't really have a top three, but I'll give you, I'll give you one. I would say, say, Juan Gibbs and I like McCaffrey. Although he was injured this year, I like McCaffrey. I appreciate it. Who's the best back in this drive? Best back in this drive. I lead out of the yard. That's y'all decision. Playing well with Howard. What I'm going to remember most. We're a Howard, man. He's just such a great leader, such a great leader, man. It's just like in moments where, you know, usually a lot of players, they fold, man.

25:40He was just always calm and relaxed, man. He just the leader that he was, man. That's one thing I'm going to remember about him. I think James P. Yeah, he's, he's going to be really good, man. He's on Coastal Lark. I think he got the transfer in as well from West Virginia. Just that one, two punch with them both as well. They're going to be really good backs. And so James P. was, man, he's smart the way that he goes about his business, man. He's mature. And so, man, he's growing, you know, just as a person and as a player. And so, man, yeah, definitely Ohio State, you know, that running back room is in great hands. I was right there looking at the U.S. spotting, but I'm just not the biggest news in the reality. And I'm just going to keep that open. I'll be the same way. Yeah. Coach, Coach Hartline, man. He's full of energy, man. And he's creative as well, you know, just learning from him as well, you know, trying to run more outside the backfield. It was being able to learn from Coach Hartline. And so, he's definitely creative at what he does. And he brings a lot of energy to the team as well. And so, I think that would do really good.

26:41Just the intensity, man. And the intensity of the playoffs, every game, man, is like the intensity got, you know, higher and higher. And so, you know, being able, I know in the lead, it's the same thing. Even if it's not the playoffs, just every game and the intensity, it keeps getting higher and higher. And so, yeah, you just, I know you got to bring it, you know, each and every day and come in and work. You just like Ohio State, you know, I definitely feel like Ohio State. They definitely do a good job of preparing us for that. You know, I just remember even before going through this process, I'll talk to a lot of players before then. And they told me a lot of just about how much Ohio State prepared them, you know, for the NFL. And so, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I know I took a couple of days off after the National Championship. And then, shoot, right after that, I'm writing Sample Florida and I'm right to it. And so, yeah, I think while I trained, I trained at your birth performance.

27:45I think it's called the House of Athlete or the Compound now. They did a good job, man. They're just bringing us in and the way they went about training us, man. They did a really good job. I mean, when you play in the air? The bucket in the air. You know what I have in it? Tampa. Tampa, Tampa nice. It's a nice city, man. Really nice. The 40 to broad and the vert. You've been on the races. It's an awesome locker. You need to be here with your mentality of like when you've got online records over the next half. You'll figure that you and you're ready to score a ball. Yeah. Yeah. No, man. It's really all about technique. And then it's about mindset as well. And so I say, you know, it's for the love of my brother. It's for the love of Will Howard. It's for the love of the receivers who I got on the perimeter. Just making sure, you know, first of all, my quarterback doesn't get sacked. And I tell Will, I think it was before the first game. I was like, I got your brother. It's, I said, man, I'm not going to let you get hit. You know, and so I don't know if I don't know if I gave up a sack.

28:47I'm not sure that. But I know if I did, I haven't given up too many. And so, man, it's for the love of my brothers, though, man. Making sure that the ball get in their hands, you know, the guys on the outside and making sure they get fed. You had to hit the practice field later today. What is something you've been working on right now? In my game. You can't really work on this, you know, in all season, I feel like. It's more so, you know, you got to put the pads on. You got to go through some inside run, you know, maybe. It's really just continuing to run through tackles. And so that's, I feel like that's one of the areas in my game. You know, I want to continue to get better at it. I feel like I did a good job of that my senior year. And so I just want to continue to build on that. So you can always say yes. Yes, I did. So people try to look like, I'll let it roll out there. You get back in there as soon as I can. I did meet with New Orleans as well. I never got that comparison. Actually, I know I have a Camera shoe. Yeah, man, I have a Camera great, great back, man. Just what he does and knows, one on one matchups, he's dangerous, man.

29:48And he's so smooth. He's so smooth as well. I'm like, he's smooth. Yeah. Inside zone from stack, being able to hit that thing downhill. And I'll say the next one is probably just an option out of the backfield. You know, a man and man coverage, you're getting on that linebacker. Yeah. I say the man, the biggest thing is the way that he carries himself, man. And the way that man, he approaches the game. He comes in with the mindset, you know, he's going to work every single week. You know, every practice, you know, he's working hard. You know, even shoot, I don't know, every good, I think he had a, every game was a good game for him. And so, but still, man, he always has the mentality to mindset that, you know, he's going to come in each and every day.

30:48He's going to continue to work and get better, man. And so he's definitely man. He's going to be a special player, man. He really is. Man, a lot of ups and downs, man. It's just how you respond to adversity. And I feel like that's something that God has definitely helped me to do better. Is this, I'm not having something to lean on now. You know, I remember before I met him, you know, going through those adversity, I had nothing to run to. You know, you can run to people, but they still can't, it's not too much. They can't truly help you. You know, I feel like, you know, I feel like the only person that can truly help you is your relationship with Jesus Christ. And so, being able to lean on him, you know, he gives you, in those moments, where it's tough, you know, where it's slow. And when you're behind the scenes and you're going through things that people don't know about, he gives you that peace and comfort, you know, even in those moments, man, where it's so hard that you can't explain. It's like, man, I'm going through this, but like, how am I still filled with this internal joy?

31:51You know, how do I have so much peace in this situation? And so, that's something that only Jesus Christ can give you. And so... Um... Man, those guys have such a great mentality, man. I just really love their mentality, especially Q as well. You know, I talked about Will Howard, his leadership, but Quinchiam mentality, man. Um... That boy just, yeah, that boy just gifted, you know. You see, you know, sometimes he put in a situation where he looked like, you know, he should have a negative five yards. And as soon as you know it, you know, he, that running through somebody, stiff-arm, and somebody, and she, that's a gain of 10. And so... It's like, do some of the things that he does, he just realizes two different guys. Yeah. Um... Shoot, I think... Yeah, man, I think it's just like... He's just gifted, man, too, beyond it. He's just gifted. You know, he's a big back.

32:53You know, he's strong, and so, um... You know, he's able to do those things. So, um... Yeah, man, it's definitely... You know, I look at his game, and I want to... You know, at the same time, I want to learn from Quinchiam. You know, I want to look at his game, and it's like, man, where can I get better at as well? You know, that's the type of player I am. I'm always looking to get better, man. I'm always looking to grow as a player. What's your last one to treat? Druel and San. Oh, yeah, he's gonna be a great... He's gonna be a great quarterback, man. He's so... so accurate. And so, um... He's definitely, man. I know Coach Dez is definitely gonna get him right. Just, you know, um... Continuing to grow as a leader, continuing to grow as a player. And so, he's gonna be really good for high state. Thanks, boss. Good bye. Uh... He's... I know just the quarterback position. Um... I feel like, you know, the quarterbacks in the past, they've... they've definitely been vocal. And so, I feel like that's something that they're definitely gonna, um... Ask them, Julian, saying as well, is to be that vocal leader and lead the... And lead the offense and lead the team. Thanks, guys. Thanks, Druel. Shoot, man. He has... he has a build like JK Dobbins.

33:53And, um... I kind of see them, you know, similar... He's in their game as well. And I know JK Dobbins, he was a great running back. Um... I feel like he's not talked about his none. Um... A lot, but man, his career here, you watch his highlights, is great. I remember, um... before I recruit... Before I committed here, I remember watching JK Dobbins highlights, like every... Every, um... one of his years here, like, four or five times. And so, man, he was such a great back. And, um... I feel like, you know, um... when I see JK Dobbins, when I see, um... James people, I see similarities to both of their games. I feel like they play the same. And so... Appreciate you all, y'all. You can do that. This...

35:28You can do that. You can do that.

36:29Well, I got coming in last year, I knew it was all so I just tacked Eric Dave. Really the same way. It's taken a very rough. Physically, how different are you? Weight-wise, body-wise on that from a year ago? Um... I think I got a lot bigger. I'm like 240. You know, I'm like 244 right now. Last year, I played at like 236 to 37. What does it feel like at 244? Or maybe it's like almost a different machine out there. Yeah, like a... What does it feel like to be running around out there like you are, but... With more... More back. I just feel like I'm like... Like... Like more downhill, like... Stronger, like I'm taking all the bloods better. It's a big... No. Is it daunting? Uh... Maybe that's not the correct term. But to think you're going to be playing much more than you did even last year. And you played quite a bit last year instead of... What do you have to get straight in your head about being on the field that much more? I just got to get ready to just play 30 more snaps.

37:29But... How would you describe how much you're looking forward to it from an each standpoint? Yeah, I'm looking forward to it. I'm ready for it. My thing. I'm ready for it. The Texas Opener is a rematch in the Sotos Bay, but it's not really two different teams compared to the last time you all played and stuff. How has that enhanced this camp for you and this team getting ready for the... Where an opener of that magnitude? Yeah, with an opener like that, we've been... We've been emphasizing it a lot and we know we got coming so we know we got to do it. We've been prepared for it. Already this is probably what the... I think Riley ready to play right now. He advanced freshmen, like he ended up here in the book. He stood in like he advanced. And his measurements was crazy. Like he saw it like the saw it like to him. Or, you said you're ready. You know you're ready. What was that process like during last season? Could you feel yourself becoming more and more ready for whatever the team needed to play? Yeah, because that's pretty much what my role was. Just whenever I was needed I had to step up. So I feel like that's what built me into me being able to say I'm ready for this year.

38:32When you say ready, is it more a physical thing? Is it a mental thing? When I say ready, I think it's pretty much like everything physically, mentally, mostly. I think I'm there. I asked that one more time. How different is that responsibility? That you just know how to call that? If you was last year, who knew you were a role player? I feel like it's a way bigger responsibility with me having to step up this year. But I kind of go about it the same way. Like last year I was intentional with everything I did. I feel like this year is going to be the same thing. It's probably a little bit more. It won't work? How's everybody working? I say... describe my game. When you think of me, you would think of like a bully, like a silver bully.

39:35I don't really bully. I'm always on the ball. That's how I like to play and think. No, I ain't got to be my nickname, but... Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. I was like, what's the first question? How does that fit you? And what are you going to show me about it? Hullaying and that kind of stuff? I think it fit me because... I don't know, I just like the defense. I feel like we got... Like you said, we got a lot of freedom and we're moving around a lot... A lot of the terms is like, you know, I don't know. I don't really not answer that. That's okay. You can go on your instincts a little bit more, baby. And it's not so thinking of it too much. I don't even know if I say that because there's a lot of thinking going on, but it's like... I just like it's defense. I like Coach Pritzive Davis. I like what he got going on. What was it, Sadwin? CJ left the ring. Yeah. Uh... No, I wanted to say that. I was kind of like happy for him. Yeah, that's what he wanted.

40:36No, no. No, that's my dog. So yeah, kind of missing a little bit, but yeah, I'm happy for him, though. Well, don't thank you. Go ahead, one last question. I talked a lot about the guys who played some last year, but maybe weren't the starters and the hunger for, you know, that wasn't maybe your national championship you guys were going in your own. How much do you feel that is a guy who certainly contributed last year, but will be in this bigger role and along the summer year, your classmates? Yeah, I do feel like... Yeah, I do feel like I did win a nati last year, but like you said, my role wasn't same as how it's going to be this year. So yeah, I definitely want to go get another one experienced that, like, feeling me be on the field, a lot more place. That's it. Great. Oh, Bill, thank you very much. Thanks, I got it. What left side of your offensive line, how they great out? They look good up to the naked eye. How they look when you watch the film. Yeah, both great at out champions and I thought they played their best down the stretch,

41:36in particular that last drive. So that's good. You know, I should, again, keep saying this, build confidence, move forward, both those guys being in that spot. So new challenge this week, you know, that game is behind us, you know, time to focus on all, you know, Purdue. The line real quick, is there any update on time? And beyond that, can you just get into how well Caden McDonald has played up front? Yeah, he came back really stepped up for us and we're hoping that he can continue to give us, you know, more and more snaps, but great to see him, you know, with the game in a line. I think it was the third down play where he really got a lot of movement on the center and that made a huge difference in the, in, in on that play, especially, but he was in there for all those plays. Two weeks in a row. So big spot for him to step up in. So we're going to continue to try to find ways to get him on the field and Tally's doing good. He's day to day. We'll see how he's, when he comes in. Tony Gurman, what kind of tackle? With that defensive tackle situation, what has Andrew Houston done to get involved there? Yeah.

42:37Well, he's got a very bright future ahead of him. I think he's going to be really good football player. Hasn't played a lot inside. So he's learning that position, but I think that when you look at, you know, how he projects out, you know, we got, we got one here now. He's got to keep growing. He's got to keep learning from, from Tye and Tyleek and, you know, the age of crises of playing inside because it is different than playing on the edge. But he has a size, the power, the strength, toughness to play inside for us. But he's going to stay there and what was his response to the position? He really embraced it. You know, I think he sees what this could be for him. You know, not saying that, you know, maybe down a row, we wouldn't move him back outside, but I think he realizes, you know, when you go from being, you know, a very athletic and strong defensive end and now moving inside, now you become elite as a three technique because you have that speed and quickness and he does have the power to hold the point of attack. Over to the right, Don, very WBNS. Coach, on the first rankings come out the matter.

43:38Will you pay attention to that and just any thoughts on it? Yeah, no, no, no. Just focused on Purdue. That's all that matters, you know, in rankings right now. For us, again, don't, don't mean anything because you got to keep winning. And that's, that's, you know, for us every time we walk off the field on a Sunday, no matter what happened the game before, that game is over with. It's on to Purdue. I think Purdue, you know, their record may not say it, but they've been playing good football and, you know, we've got to come in and play physical in this game and we got to continue to build on what, what happened last week. And, and that's, that's what today is going to be all about in a Tuesday practice because, you know, whatever rankings are they are, the matter. As we always said, the ones that matter at the ones at the end of the year. It was obviously a huge win over there. Love the celebration afterwards. I didn't know you were such a great dancer. As far as what that does for the confidence, because, you know, it's one thing to say is that, but to go do it,

44:42and the way you were able to drive down the field and close out that game, what's it to do for your coach's concert? I think we know we can do it. It's been two weeks in a row. We've done that now. You know, do I think that we should be in that situation in that game? No. You know, I think our execution has got to be better this week, you know, for where we need to go and what we want to do. But we also know the game of football takes twists and turns along the way and you're going to find yourself in games. And there was some pluses and minuses on both sides, positive plays on both sides and negative plays on both sides. But, you know, you've got to win the game in the fourth quarter. And a big part of that is being physical so that you can control the game at the end of regulation. And, you know, like we did, we milked the clock there with five minutes plus to go in the game. And, you know, I've been in games before where, you know, in five minutes, there's about four or five different possessions. You just go back and forth and, you know, it turns into a shooting match. We, you know, it's a 35-28 or 48, you know, 42.

45:42And this one here, you know, we ran the ball and milked the clock and finished the game that way. And that's what this game needed. You never know what's going to come up next. If we don't get to stand on defense, off has to go out and get a score. So whatever it takes to win the game is what we've got to do. But it all comes down to, you know, how physical we are running the football and stopping to run. You know, Will is, it should be your stable force being such a veteran as you quarterback. A couple of turnovers. I know the one of the toe lines and the looping the way that thing came out for touchback rule is what it is. Any concerns of as far as, will trying to protect the football in big games, what's it for? Oh, it can happen. It can't happen. You know, it just, we got to take care of the football. And, you know, the first play, you know, you got, you got, you know, fooled a little bit in terms of what he saw. And so that, you know, unfortunately, sometimes like that, those things will happen. But we can't fumble the ball inside a 10 yard line. Just can't do it. So, you know, we were, like he said, you know, we were fortunate in the game because of, you know, the play of so many guys down the stretch and turned into a four quarter game because of that.

46:49You know, we take care of the ball better. It doesn't, it doesn't have to be that way. So he knows that. And, you know, we're going to keep hammering at home this week and a huge emphasis on execution and take care of the football. But, over a quarter of a row. Ryan, what did you like from what's Carson gave you guys as a guard? And what did he show you in the rest of the weeks and things? Thank you. He's ready. I'm really not playing all the games. Yeah. You know, we looked at him during, you know, the preseason. He was out with illness. He was playing back up center. We moved into guard. We felt like at that time, you know, Tegrig gave us more at right guard and with Donnie at left guard. Seth was, you know, solidified at center. So, you know, we kept Carson right there at center at the time. Since, you know, Donnie, we got moved out. You know, we felt like there was a hole there that we needed to fill. And, you know, we had a couple different options there and some good options. But in this game, we felt like experience was the right thing to go with.

47:49And, you know, after watching the film, he stepped up in a big way and showed us that he can play guard. And so, we're going to continue to go with Carson and, you know, we saw what we saw in film and now he's got to keep building on it. You know, we barely have the bot that. Right, obviously, Carson giving you that boost is helpful because it answers one question. I'm curious about the last week with Donnie and the decision to move in the tackle for a kid that played guard for three years as a lot of adult prospects, etc. How is the conversation with him about taking that risk of moving out there? How does he handle it? Post game? How does he handle it? And how does it feel different after the game? You know, I think anytime you're making a move like that in a big game and going against a high end player like Carter is, you know, there's a lot to process there. But he never flinched at all. You know, he never thought twice about it. He embraced it. I think, you know, Justin did a great job of preparing him, you know, in one week. Now he had been getting reps out there and practice, but it's not the same as preparing to play in a game, especially when you're on the silent count, especially against a great player like Carter.

48:53And so, you know, we really did tailor the game the best we could around that. There's a couple of third downs. We just had to call it and play it and we did help with the cadence at one time and then Carter got us, you know, on the other ones. But I thought, Donnie, absolutely, you just fought his tail off and played physical the whole time and were those guys down and embraced a new role in a tough spot. So I think he can be a very good tackle. I mean, just watching his athletics, his, his length, the way his feet move. And he can play a good tackle for us. Now we've got to keep getting on the reps and keep getting more and more the experience of being out there in confidence. But, you know, he's showing now that he can play both positions. So I think it's only going to help him. Fourth and two in the second quarter from the field. I mean, it's a risky play call up there. You risk giving momentum back to the state of the field to call that play to Delani. What, did you see not in the last couple weeks to put him in that spot because it seemed like a player who maybe hadn't found it.

49:53Yeah, those are those are not easy decisions. But, you know, you got to in that moment. I felt like, you know, we, we had run the sneak before. We wanted to take, try to get will on the perimeter. They did a nice job of, you know, kind of sniffing it out, but we'll continue to keep the play alive. We didn't think it would get all the way to Delani, who was actually the last read in the progression. You know, we had a tail back in the flat. We had Jeremiah on the over. And then here comes Delani on the side of you mirror, which I don't think we threw all week. So for, for those guys to, to do that. And like I said the other day, I think you got three catches and three drops on one play, Delani, centerman on that play. It was just one of those plays you got to make. And he did. And, but a sideline was excited for him. But I think when you look at Delani, you see somebody who has a tremendous amount of talent. He's growing every day, he's maturing every day. You know, when he's consistently doing his job and knowing what he's doing, you see it. You know, and I think that's been the thing that's held him back a little bit, but he's making those improvements now. And the more he can build trust in the staff and making a big play like that in a big spot certainly does a lot for him.

50:59For Carson, since he didn't play in that combo, what growth have you seen from him really since that recent game last year. Now the makes you think this can be a consistent step. Carson has toughness. Tarzan has athleticism. Carson's smart. And I think after watching the film and maybe not taking on as much of the stuff in terms of making all the calls and everything like that that maybe having set there next to him and Donnie over here next to him allowed him to focus on his job and not, you know, be worried about all the different things that happen. You can just can go play football. And that's what he did. So I think there's a lot of growth and maturity there emotionally. So you don't want to hit it all into a being a guard or center right now. Right. You talk about not having the chance to make no calls. Playing a being guard being next assessing him. How does that help him whether I think you'd have to ask him. But from my point of view, having Seth in there certainly has built a calm.

52:11This isn't the word but a confidence. A, you know, they're much more sure themselves in there and in, you know, Seth gets everybody in the same page, but also talks to them about how we're going to do things in terms of footwork about hand placement about the double teams. And I think that's been great for Carson to see that. You know, when you think about Carson's. You know, first couple years here, you know, I don't think we ever expected Luke to leave after three years and he did and kind of left a hole there. So Carson got forced in action a year early. Another year under Luke and seeing Luke operate for another year as a senior would have gone a long way. And that's usually the ideal situation for a center. Carson got forced in action sooner than we have liked it. But now he's got a chance to see Seth work. And I think that's really going to help him in his future and you saw there on Saturday. And like you said, whether it's guard or center, I think he's in a better place now and certainly going out there and doing it on the field, you know, leads us to believe that's the case.

53:12I'm Craig. Cleveland dot com to follow up on the offensive line there. You guys celebrated for the guys as the offensive players of the game. What board did you can see from terror, kind of moving forward to have better performances? Yeah, we try not to do that too much in terms of putting out the grades when he was close, but you know, the grades of the grades and you know, you got a grade out of champion in order to get player of the game. But we thought he played his tail off. He played really, really hard. Just a couple of things in there that you know, we got to clean up. And this is not a feel good situation. Either you grade out or 80% or you don't. And he was right there. But you know, we were real with the grading and doesn't take away from the effort and what he did and we definitely called him out in the meeting and made sure everybody understood that you know, he was right there and gave a great effort. It was part of the offensive line. So you know, when you're grading, you're looking to decide me. You're looking at technique. Robert, on the back. We'll Howard, when he makes mistakes, he seems to move on from the pretty well. At least we're talking to him after the game. That seems to be something he really has.

54:12Better than me. Is that just wiring? Is that something you guys can coach into someone to move on to the next flight? Do you bring sports psychologists into the situation? Have you seen a guy like him and moved on that quickly? I mean, I know he does. He definitely does. He's got to he's got an act for that. And I you know, we talk a lot about there's a fine line of like, you know, you make a mistake and it's like, well, just one of the next. We just have a major problem here. So there's that fine line there. And so we try to do in practice. And I try to do is whether it's a quarterback, the kicker, the left guard, or you know, the corner. Is you know, make it hard for him in practice when they do make a mistake. I mean, just, you know, get all over him so that they feel what that's going to be like in a game. And then you watch to see how that respond. You know, if if that play bogs them down for the rest of practice, then you know, we got we got some growing up to do here. And so we try to do that in practice, but, but wills not somebody's been in the program for a long time. So I can't sit here and say that, you know, any of the coaching staff is any credit for that.

55:21And so this is something that wills had. And you know, whether he earned that when or learned about this when he was in high school or gained it from being a Kansas state, you know, you have to ask him, but, but that's something that we all try to do, you know, and again, whether it's a corner getting beaten a goal ball. You know, you got to collect Davis and the way he came back after they get in that, you know, that completion on them and they did call the hold on them to come back and make that play like that's what you have to do in these types of games. And so I think that's the way that I do feel right now in the middle of the season, probably more than in years past that we've been tested more. Our players have been tested more that teams have been tested more so that we're a little bit more resilient than maybe in the past. And we played against, you know, teams or had games where we find ourselves in, you know, games that were a little bit lopsided, you don't really get tested. You don't really get putting that some of those tough situations. So, you know, we're counting on that to be a difference. So, I think that's all with Seth Snaps. I saw during the game there were some low ones and will at one time kind of try to calm him down, I think.

56:24I don't know if that's nipping or have you seen anything? No, we want, we want very, very accurate snaps. It makes a big difference, but I think he's been accurate with them. I thought he handled the environment. I thought the fact that our offensive line at zero false starts, zero hold in calls was big in the game. That's what we needed. We needed a clean game. And so there's a lot going on there. And as you know, with the silent cadence, you kind of saw we were tapping and then moving our head. And the head movement is so that the offensive line can then realize, okay, the ball is about to be snapped and anticipate that. And you know, I didn't realize it. But if you ever try to just like move your head quick and then snap the ball. I mean, you can get dizzy quick. You know, you can almost feel like you have vertigo. And so it's not easy. It's not. And I thought Seth handle himself well and handle the environment well overall. Don't David. I should have seen the beat. Is that his best Saturday? What were your thoughts on the game that he called? Where the numbers dropped? Where you thought he was going? What's called there? Yeah, I mean, we, we all work hard, putting the game plan together. And I thought he called a good game. I thought he had patience.

57:29You know, I'm not always the most patient. I think he's more patient than I am. And I think, you know, he understood that we need to establish the run in that game and be physical. And, you know, I think he, he did that in the game. And then when it was time to call some, some things that put guys in conflict, I thought they were well designed. And in those plays, they take a lot of work, you know, whether it comes from the design of the play really in the week, then it comes to, you know, how we're going to wrap them. The scout team look the protection. I mean, there's just so much that goes in like the one play to Mecca. I mean, that took a lot of work and meetings, walkthroughs, corrections the next day, just to get to that, get to be a competitive excellent. Then you get to get the right coverage, you know, so a lot of things came into play and even just a strain by Donovan on that play, just to give enough to push that, you know, defender off, to give will one more second to flip the sips to get the ball thrown. So, but that's what it takes in terms of execution. Those plays were well executed and we need more of that. And we got to be clean and simple so our guys can play fast. But I do think you call the good game. Yes.

58:30How much of that is experienced in games and how much of that was experienced in atmospheres like that he's been in atmospheres like that. So he wouldn't be overwhelmed by the moment. That was what we were counting on. Yeah. And I do feel like Carson was practicing better, but I can't sit here and tell you that there was a whole bunch of practice that, you know, put him ahead of anybody else. But then when he had the opportunity that's life, he grabbed it. But now now, now where we're going from here, you know, I mean, again, that the Penn State games over, like we got to worry about pretty well. We got to keep moving forward. So, you know, now we'll see kind of how things go as we move forward. But he showed he can do it. And again, I hope that builds confidence for him as he moves forward. One of the Penn State offensive linemen said after the game that he felt like your D line was doing things, particularly against the run that they hadn't seen all the time before. Some stunting and things of that nature. And it does this until the last two weeks. There happens some noticeable differences with structures that these things like that. Where are you, I guess, in putting on the field some of the conversations you guys had coming off of the Oregon game? How has that looked to you over these last two games?

59:38I think I mean, it's looked the way that we've wanted it to look. You know, we almost, you know, kind of a goofy word, but like reengineered the defense. We had to almost start from scratch after the Oregon game. What I mean by that is not like scrap everything, but like, okay, what are the base foundations of what we're trying to get done? Who are best players? We got to put our best players in a position to be successful. What are teams, you know, scheming us up, you know, in terms of what are they looking at? And you start going through that process and you almost have to kind of knock it down and rebuild it a little bit. Now, you know, to the naked eye, there's probably not a lot out there that you're really noticing, but there's significant things that are going on that I think are giving our guys confidence. I think we're doing a better job of putting our guys in a position to be successful. I think we're getting lined up better. So we've got to keep building on it though. I mean, a lot of football left and we've already put a lot of football on film. So we've got to keep upgrading. And there's that line of, you know, doing what you do well and being able to play really fast and then making sure that you have enough changeups. So guys can't, you know, nail you down. I imagine that's only possible if you have better employers, you can handle those kind of things like how much of the key has not been changing.

1:00:47But it wasn't, that's what I'm saying. I guess it wasn't like, hey, we're redoing all of this. It's like, let's just trim all this out of here and just focus on these things right here. These are the best things we do right now and then kind of go off and have the one off from there. So like, again, you know, you didn't all of a sudden start to see, you know, a three down front. So it wasn't like that. It was just really cleaning up some of the communication, how we do things, putting the right guys in the right spots. You know, it doesn't take much to be a little bit off. You know, and I think that, you know, we're moving towards where we want to be. And you know, there's going to be really good offence is coming out of here soon. By the way, I think Purdue's offense is playing well. I think both quarterbacks are talented. They do a good job on offense. So like, you know, if our guys think that like they're just going to go out there and play this Saturday, they're wrong. I think, you know, they're a much better team than their records shows. So we got to have a great week of practice and keep growing. And, you know, if anybody in this building here is thinking about last week, then they're distracted and that can't happen.

1:01:57You know, kind of building off that road foot, how much you say you want to be more involved in meetings and hands on. How much do you think that's helped in kind of the reengineering and changing a little bit? I mean, I think we have a really good system in place. I think we have really good coaches. I do think that maybe just being in there and being a little bit more systematized in terms of, you know, here's what we're thinking on first and second down. Here are some thoughts I have. How do we tie this all together? How do we put our best players in place? You know, what are we thinking here on third down? What are the first few calls in the red zone? And just, you know, making sure I got a good feel for that and then giving just a little bit of feedback. Not a lot. I don't want to bog them down, but a little bit of feedback on what I'm seeing as an offensive coach to make sure that, you know, they know. Not only on that room together, like, you know, when they leave, like they're on the same page, but I think the communication has been good. And I think, yeah, I do think at least being in there has helped listen, you know, talking to the coaches and making sure on the same page.

1:03:00Going back, you colored across the game against Penn State. There were things said after the brass game at the Oregon loss. There was, you know, obviously a big game moving in happy value. You guys win that game. How have you seen the energy from the week before? Kind of shipped now in this in this place with everything now in front of you? Yeah, we'll find out today. Yeah, how we do it, you know, on our 230 team meeting and how we do a practice and where we go to Purdue. That's it. You know, I mean, was it a good win? Yeah, it was a good win. But it's just allowed us an opportunity to go chase our goals. That's all it's done. You know, we knew we had to go do that. And, you know, we knew when we looked at the schedule going to Oregon to Penn State, we're going to be two great road opportunities for us. You know, we didn't get the first one. We got the second one. So that was good. But a lot of football ahead of us. And that games behind us now. I want to try to keep one question. How about time? Because Jeremiah Smith is off to such a great start. He scored a touchdown in every game before this one.

1:04:04Your perspective was it? How would you make the fact that he actually didn't score a touchdown? We had a chance. We just didn't connect on it. Yeah, we wasn't for lack of trying. But, you know, he is off to a great start. And I thought even for again, for a freshman in both of these two environments, you know, he didn't he didn't flinch at all. And I think now we're now that we're in mid year. He's become a veteran player. He's not really a freshman anymore. My eyes. Yeah, coach, the last drive when I asked about that first player on the one yard line, you got to get it out of the shadow of your in zone. Don't go to safety and get them all back. That play ends in the quarterback and all five of the offensive linemen are together at the five yard line. Just, I mean, you could have had two or three of them get there. But everybody got there and she'll have been safe back. Just how important was it to start it by taking away the risk of the safe. And then going for there. Yeah, I mean, that was that was it. I mean, we're we're backed up on the one foot one yard line. And we got we got to bang it out. We got to get that first first down. Not only do you get to get past the five because the backed up punt.

1:05:09But, you know, you got to get that first down. You got to get it out of there. And, you know, we know there's going to be a ton of guys in the box. And it's just going to come down to, you know, running through the extra guy and making sure you get moving up front. But to see the offensive line jump up and fist pump and, you know, we'll get the thing out. I think to the four or five yard line. I mean, just, I mean, that's what we needed right there. And that moment. And the huddle was like that. And then the next play, you know, what we're on getting vertical and, you know, getting downhill and started with the offensive line. But how they're running backs ran hard to. But that's got to be who we are. I mean, that doesn't matter if we don't do it again next week. It's got to be the same thing. So, but good to see us finish that finish the game that way. I know you didn't get to the lead no doubt part of this game, but in terms of the way that the new playoff structure isn't everything. How much does that matter in retrospect anymore with stoplights? Aren't really as big of the owes as they used to be? Is it as a win a win?

1:06:11Yeah, win is a win. And I was thinking about that a little bit this week is, you know, with us huddling now and with everything going on like to different style of game. Yeah, I can't remember finishing a game with five some odd minutes on the clock. And that was it. I mean, the game was over milked it out. And we had some longer drives. And, you know, we're not snapping the ball at 20 seconds. So the number of plays are way, way down. It's almost more like an NFL style of game nowadays because you're huddling. So, yeah, the number one key is turnovers, rushing yards, you know, all these situations become more and more critical. And we do good job in the red zone. You know, it's cost us the game. And so the situational football becomes more and more important. But, yeah, I mean, these games are going to be that way because, you know, we're huddling now and a lot of teams are huddling now. And so, you know, I just think that, yeah, the game has changed a little bit in terms of that. Certainly much different than it was, you know, five years ago when it was just back and forth and high scoring game. So efficiency and execution are all time high. Andy Anderson, one more. You talked several times now about that. The whole line stand and talk about defending an inch of grass there. But just what goes into from your eyes, a goal, line stand.

1:07:20And what is important for getting that sort of a stock? Because obviously had to come on side of that. Well, it starts with the guys up front. Yeah, it starts with came back and hero and tie and JT Jack. I mean, those five guys holding the line right there. And then it's this next level of guys. It's Cody. It's it's sunny. You know, those guys. And then like as the pile is there. I mean, you got to push that pile back. You got to drive it back. I felt like in the four-minute drill and offense like we were pushing the pile one way. I thought the goal line stand we were holding our ground right there and pushing the pile. It's just a mindset. You know that, you know, we got to go win this game and to get two stops inside the five guard line in this game was was the huge difference. That Murphy point of what that was worth. When you talked about Caleb and his intelligence taking meetings to the field and all that. I think some people just look at the stats and say he's not having the year. He had it all of them last season and understanding. It's a different defense. But just Saturday show exactly what you're talking about where he's taking away a guy like Tyler Warren. He's making plays. It's kind of the culmination of things with him.

1:08:28Yeah, no, he's all over the field. He's had a huge impact on our defense and had some huge tackles in the game, some huge plays in the game. And he's a huge part of our defense. Awesome. I imagine that shot to Jeremiah just fractionally off. There was another to car now. I think the first flush instinct is always just look at the quarterback when you evaluated those two plays. What what could be done not just by Will maybe to execute those car now that a great job off the line of scrimmage got behind the defense the cornerback slipped a little bit and there really wasn't anybody there and. You know, Will in that moment, you know, just needs to keep the ball a little bit more inside and the car now made a great catch, but you know, kind of landed out of bounds. And then on the second one, you know, I think Jeremiah felt like, you know, the safes were so deep that the ball wasn't coming his way and, you know, we tell we tell Will. I mean, if he's anywhere near the depth of safety, just launch it as far as you can. That's what happened. So, you know, he just has to stay with it and. But you're right. I mean, those are two missed opportunities that could have been much different.

1:09:32You mentioned earlier, like there were pros and cons like you could have not been in that game. Those are the ones you think about. Turnovers. The conversation with Will that these are four opportunities to change things. That's why you know, execution. We got it. We got to be efficient. We got to execute. You know, I think the mentality and the physicality and the toughness was all there on Saturday. That's it. And in the end, that's what won the game. And so that's that's good. But you know, it doesn't need to be that way. If we're executing better and cleaner, taking care of football and those things. So you can do both. They're not mutually exclusive. So I'm looking to combine all those as we head into the back half of the season. Follow up with Tegrif and earlier, do you feel like he's, you know, firmly that starting right guard view guys this point. Are you still looking at mixing Austin? No, I mean Austin's ready to go and he maybe would get some reps, but Tegrif is our right guard right now. Andy Backstreet, let it go. It times just the price. Eight to me. Classical season. Just how validating the way the line played on Saturday.

1:10:32No, it's just one game. But for him, for Justin, how about it review for trusting the process. Yeah. I mean, a big step in the right direction for sure. And if we can keep building on this, then yeah, that'd be a heck of a deal. And I think, you know, it's staying after it and being resilient. And that's what it's going to take. You know, and I think now, you know, there's a confidence coming out of it. Like, okay, we just did this. This is who we can be. But it's no good if we don't do it again this week. Another question about Will. I know what you like about it. A lot of things talk about him quickly. You also talked about the things that went wrong in Penn State. This team is obviously loaded. How confident are you that he is the quarterback who can take you to the championship level? Yeah, I think what you saw at the end of the game. You know, made a difference in finishing this game. We hadn't really finished the game like this in a while.

1:11:32But having his legs, having his physicality and all that made a big difference in this one. So now we know how capable he is and a lot of different areas. And he is the leader of this team and the guys believe in him. And, you know, we know we can win every game with Will Howard. And so I think the more and more he's in this offense, the more and more feels what it's like to be the Ohio State quarterback, the better. But at the end of the day, it's about winning the game and he did that and he's a winner. So again, a lot to come out of the game, a lot to learn from. And, you know, we have to play cleaner. But, you know, we love his fire. We love his competitiveness. We love his composure. The guys believe in him. And he can make a lot of throws. What is Zen's status if he does return this week next week? How does that prompt you to just evaluate your left side of the game? Yeah, we'll see. Yeah, right now we're going to stick with what we have. If Zen were to become available, then that would give us more options. You know, I don't think he'll be available this week. He is getting getting better.

1:12:38So we'll kind of see how he is and have an update later in the week. But I think we're in it right now. The focus will be to stick with what we got right now because we feel like it was a good synergy coming out of that game. And final question. 10 May. Oh, I got it. I got it. 10 May. You want to go next? No, no, no. Okay. Right. Was there was there a drive? Obviously the last drive was gutter rolled to the to the end degree. But was there a drive Saturday where you looked at there and go? This is what I envisioned when I brought in Chip Kelly and Will Howard, etc. Where you just felt like things were under control, so to speak. It was kind of what you envisioned this offense being about. I would say the responses after the interception, you know, we we kind of went out there without. You know, any hesitation and just started rolling pretty good and the combination of run pass and play action and all that was really what we're looking for. And I think the perimeter blocking, you know, has got to be better.

1:13:39We left a lot on the field because of some of those perimeter blocks. And so, you know, we're going to work hard to get that fixed. But yeah, I think the response that we had after the interception for touchdown. That was just a confidence level that I think, you know, had an effect on the whole entire game really to just respond like that. And then. And then the other drive we got down there and through the the touchdowner Brandon is, I mean, that it was good run pass mix there. I do think if we connected on a couple of those shots because that still has to be a part of our game, then. You know, you feel a little bit different coming out. Obviously the ball coming out on one yard line. That was a good drive as well. I mean, the block that Trayvian had. I mean, no one's going to talk about that because we've fallen on a play. But man, it was a great play. So I think it was good run pass. We were efficient. You know, enough to win the game, but we need to be more efficient. You say Quichon and Trayvian sent me out. I mean, from, I mean, that just tells you everybody gets it. What's the mentality? The mentality was right in the game. And it's got to be continued to be that's that's what we got to start every week.

1:14:39That's the mentality. But you know, you want the scoreboard to look different and execute better. And finally question. Where are George and Ian more in terms of their level development? Something else. Yeah, I mean, they're ready. They're working hard. They're getting the reps in practice and. You know, they got to stand ready. They got to, you know, and sometimes it's not always easy to be that guy who's one snap away, but hasn't really been in the game much. So, you know, if it's appropriate, we'll try to get him into game to get him, you know, some game reps, but. But they need to keep coming. They need to get the reps in practice and be prepared because he just never know how it's going to shake. And the way I say, who communicated to you guys that I do was clearly trying to figure out your guys snap count that makes you guys want to switch some things up there. Oh, he's, you know, there was nothing like in terms of communication. It just he's a great player who tries to get a jump on the ball. You can see that on film.

1:15:39And so, you know, we came over, you know, there's time out and we just said, you know, in this third down, there's an opportunity to get maybe. You know, a free one here. And so, you know, we don't typically use a bunch of cadences when it comes to silent count, but. The guys were just one enough to use the double head bob. And that was enough to get a first down, which turned out to be pretty big. Anytime you get those first downs like that, it was big, but we had everybody over in a sideline and we communicated that to Seth. And Seth was great and the guys, you know, hung in there on it and it was a big play force. Coach, thank you very much. Did you feel, ever run up against an offensive on the field like, do you feel like you're at a good way from where you can do things against them, either what offensive loss. I mean, yeah, I mean, this year is kind of different because I obviously I'm closer to the ball, but it kind of feels the same. You know, I think I like being able to place these I like tiny things up and being able to run full speed and be able to hit somebody and catch them off guard.

1:16:39And that's just what I'm able to do now, just end the ball and closer to them. We haven't really talked about like a few guys, but he's talking about like, what is the Guinness? I like the chance to work with him with my junior at the opening, but I was different because I was playing off guard. Yeah, that's done. We got the normal Smith and the world. Let's see the way that he coaches. I mean, because of your block, this is as to what is his style. It's very intentional, but he knows that we're human. So, you know, he knows nobody's going to be perfect and it's okay to mess up, but the thing is being able to learn from that mistake and not do it again. How different is this? How different is your future? What's the difference between your future and your future? It's different, but like I said, I've just been enjoying the ride.

1:17:42I like why I am now, so I'm just going to grow at this fight and get to where I want to go. 100%. 100%. No, it's very hard. Even if you just look at our 2020 hoop class, we've got a lot of guys, and now we're probably going to have like five or six guys here. Exactly. So, being able to just stick it through and just, you know, I feel like these things here, each year, I feel like I was telling you this thing. Because yeah, it was opportunity to transfer, but I just kept feeling like God just stay. Let his will be done, just let his will, you know. Is it true or is it like when you know you may make a misplission change on the government? You know, I try to, every little drill that we do, I try to make sure I'm doing it to the team, you know. I don't like to mess up, and that's why you see me after practice working with Coach Johnson or Coach Patricia, because of the fact I know it's very urgent, but I still feel like I have time.

1:18:44I was only springing about 158 days probably to the pitch. You've been reppin' there throughout December, obviously. What exactly did you start to make that transition though? And you heard they were hiring an operator for this quarter, you had to do that. Um, obviously in December it was different because we had Coach Nolos here, and Coach Nolos was one. He was telling me different ways he was going to use me with the Jag, and where he was going to have me line up and things like that. Coach Day, what he was telling me was, we were going to bring in different coach and just, you know, there would just be a specific coach just for the position I was playing. Just that way could just be easier on everybody. And that probably was just going to be Coach Nolos because obviously it's his defense, but with Coach Patricia coming in, I feel like it's a lot easier on everybody because of the fact, like I said, his experience in everything that we're doing now, it just feels like everybody can just play fast enough to be themselves. When you see my question, what was your last question? 150 days, what was you know that know?

1:19:46We talk about every day. Yeah, Coach Day brings it up every day. It tells it the fact that we got to, like, yeah, we have one good day today, but we do have to stack day on top of day, on top of day because of the fact that we played Texas, Texas, just in the playoffs, you know, they're not on saws either. You know, that they're probably in the same mindset as we are right now because they lost a lot of starters, but it still doesn't mean that. I mean, see guys like, like, a person's a little harder, they started their career trying to back with the move to the edge. How much does that inspire you to see what kind of success that happens when I said that? No, I feel like watching those guys, I feel like you can see like it helped them in the long run, especially with the blue, especially with the blue day last year because of the fact it was, especially your own line, on a line of scrimmage, but, um, no, obviously I watch those guys, I watch other guys, but I'm on play. Deep in tabs with everything, because like Coach Day said, you guys are just, for the day you show up here in the river. Yeah, I think that's... Are you leading, are you, are you doing the little things instead of what's that like? I think that's... That's the fishball.

1:20:46Kind of with that report. When you're at a big time program, I'm like, how to stay, I think everyone's judged. You know, everything you do is important. How you, uh, how your locker looks is important, um, all the small details. How do you, how do you handle it? I'm here with the handle, oh, go ahead. Colin, you basically the air parent, I mean, a lot of people think you're going to be the guy. What do you think you have to prove over the next several weeks and then, appreciate that. Yeah, I don't, I always say, yeah, outside noise. I'm just, folks don't get better every day. You know, I'm getting ready for Friday's practice. Uh, just, I'm thinking about practicing. I was going to kind of ask the same question and then, how do you handle that? Like having that really people here to watch a practice or, you know, being or walking around in Columbus when you know that the quarterback's probably most judged position, maybe in all of college football. I think, like I said before, I'm, I'm really just focused on the fundamentals and improving every day and just getting better. Um, you know, taking what coach day, coach making, coach wrestler, uh, bringing, bringing to us the court. What can you think you have to do? Uh, uh, yeah, uh, I think this winner of a game a little bit of weight got stronger.

1:21:53So that was a big point. And I really just, you know, focusing on, uh, just getting big and stronger. I looked about, uh, getting about 10 pounds of social distancing. How much better? I'm expecting a little bit more. Like, because you're going right there. Uh, how ready to do field physical now? Uh, I feel, I feel good now. Uh, just, you know, being a little bit heavier. Uh, it was good. It was big, big thanks to coach Macon. It's been so easy. What? You think of being the starting quarterback, I don't know, I don't think. What does that look like to me? What does that mean? Yeah, it's definitely, uh, definitely the goal. Uh, but we're so long as life. Yeah, just get 15 carcades and just get that. What should that person look like? Yeah, I think, um, you know, the type of sky, the first guy in the last guy out. Kind of like everyone says, uh, you know, being that leader of the offense. Are you able to do last year? What's that I with you last year about, you know, Billy Fessler, what he was able to do with the quarterbacks and how much did you specifically get to work with them? Yeah, he had, uh, he had so much impact on our quarterback room last year. Um, him and Coach Kelly both did a great job with us and, uh,

1:22:53I was really appreciative of those guys. Uh, just we're, uh, we work closely with the coach Fessler and then I was happy to see him get on. How much different do you feel? Talk about putting on the way to, we talked to you in your go-to training practice. You can just get in here and come from Alabama. How much different a year later do you feel in this program as a forward back all of a sudden? Yeah, I think when you, when I first got here, I was still learning how everything works and learning what you're doing. Um, and now I think I know what I would know what I'm doing, uh, within the plays or within, um, how the program works. So I think it's, uh, it's been good to just get adjusted, but, uh, still still trying to improve. And when you talk about toughest guide, first one in the last one or, uh, there's two other guys that are trying to do that. How do you be that guy when two other guys know that that's what they're trying to do in that job? Yeah, I think it's, um, our room is very competitive, but we're also very close. It's only three, it's only three guys in our room. So I think it's, um, it's important for us to just be close, but also better. I'm working through it. I want to go ahead and watch.

1:23:54Uh, watching you throw one of the biggest things that stands out. I think it's how quick you release is. Still, I'm actually thinking, um, how did you develop that quick motion? I think, um, I've naturally had a kind of a quick release. And I'll come out of high school. I was always, I was just kind of had a quick release and I've been trying to get a quicker. Uh, you, yeah. You said the watch will. Devon to the battle last year. What did you learn? Maybe you were looking to take it and understand that it's competition. I'm trying to get each other better. Yeah, I think Will and Devon had a great friendship, but they were all sparing competitive. So I think it was, uh, it was definitely good to see and that's the thing that we have in our room this year. I do show you're the toughest guy with nobody to touch with friends. Um, I think there's, there's a lot of ways to show tough, tough as a supporter back. I think, you know, taking metal reps, um, you know, finishing out plays burst into the line. I think all those control toughness. Um, you know, we spent a lot of hours here.

1:24:55We're, you know, watching, watching tape. Um, getting ready to practice. We spent a lot of time. You have a couple of, I'm going to get it. I'm going to get it. I'm going to get it. I wouldn't say that. I think, um, I think we all kind of, the whole quarterback, Grimis, how to a standard. We all are, you know, together in this tournament, uh, be on time and show up early. Just how it was a little bit easier for me. Like I've said, just a familiarity with the facility and the people and the coaches. So the rest of the server already built and they kind of understand how I learned and how I operate in my mind. So they've been able to coach me and adapt to how I learned and teach for my things. Is that, is that your position? Practice fielder and the classroom. You know, um, it's the biggest thing that I've tried to focus on is translating everything from those mediums to the field as quickly as I can. Just picking up on every, um, quick note that I can't any advantage I can get. Um, you know, on my opponent, I want to have that advantage. And so I learned everything in the meeting and trying to understand to the field is the most possible.

1:25:59Yeah, coach, coach, faster and coach CK, um, or system 4x coach and other quarterbacks in time dance and get together like I walked through. Whether that's just me, commanding and having a little meeting with coach faster, um, before workouts or after workouts. There's something going on every single day and just to build my development and really give me, like I said in that manage, I'm just trying to learn everything I can and be, uh, the best possible player in person. Yeah, really like I said, just learning everything. I got to understand why we're doing things we are doing. You know, what we are trying to do with it and how we're going to do it and how we're going to accomplish it. Um, you know, that's still a learning thing for me. I'm just trying to start second practice. I really just want to get better and, you know, amplify it and make it better so that I'm trying to practice. I'm ready to do this.

1:27:00I'm going to do a lot of things. I open this up to realize I was five star in the whole country. You get to hear there's just a little things like that. I open you as a scary. Yeah, definitely very opening for me just because I didn't. I think coming from the place that I came from, like you said, not doing under center and things like that. Like there's little intricate details even to just taking a step under center that I never knew were there because I never done it. So learning that stuff and, you know, fine tuning everything that has to be, that has to go into being a great quarterback. And it was definitely very eye opening. I'm not here. I'm touching on what you get. So it's all for Sesame. You will feel comfortable working with that. Versus the things you want me to do. Yeah, really just, you know, I think I think I'm getting better every day. That's the main focus. Just trying to develop everything with that. Get better at everything that I can.

1:28:00Be a better leader for the team. Be a better teammate. Be a better person outside of practice. That's really been the main development. And we'll see where it takes me throughout the spring, but just trying to get better at everything that I develop. There's a lot of focus. And now for Junior, it's your four weeks of playoff. You're watching us on a lesson. So close your head. I have a couple of two hundred. It's a strange level. The better leadership that you have for your team and the closer relationships that you have, the longer it will take you. With him, I saw just everybody hated, but nobody just like everybody loved will. He was comfortable talking to anybody. And that's something I'm going to carry with me just trying to be familiar with everybody. Know everybody. Know everything about them. That's really been the main focus. It's been a relationship with people that I don't really talk to. And I'm really just trying to build that chemistry around the team. It's been the main focus. You get a buddy that I've been all the time coming for. Is there a building like what they would be doing in the future? I was told Gabriel is not going to get to the future out. But this way you're at it. You're about to get it. Yeah, I think the first time that I had taken a snap with my offense on the field, my group of offense on the field.

1:29:03It was like, this is actually happening now. And it's not just a dream that I'm trying to make happen. It was a dream that I'm living now. And so, you know, I just take every opportunity I can. I'm blessed to be here. I love it here. I'm not a good kid in front of the world. So, we're just going to do some great. Really just like I said, you're better every single day than guys in the room or with the best in the country. So you just got to compete every day. I don't know how to say that's what they breed. So, competitions, what we talk and that's what we do. So, really just getting better every day. That's been all of our focuses. I want to try to work. Amen. I was curious how you assess Texas offense. And they've had their struggles in the running game. So they look like a team that kind of passed heavy and leans into the past first. And how would you evaluate that part of their game? I mean, you could say, as you said, stronger the past few games were the running game. But I think they got a super explosive running game. If you watch the Clemson game, I think they put up almost 250 Russian or something like that.

1:30:03I think they're a team that's capable of putting up around 50 points if you let them. So, I mean, we're deep in the shoulder ready to play. It's in an extremely talented offense on all three levels. I think the quarterbacks are great players. The running backs are very, very explosive. She was very explosive. We got great tie-down and great online. So they're well-rounded offense. And you guys are big favorites in the game. Do you worry at all about overconfidence or complacency just because the way you have dominated the opposition so far? No, I don't think anything outside noise matters. I think there's things they said about it before we won those two games. And now they're thinking about us after we won those two games. And those things might be different. And it really doesn't matter to us. We're just focused on the opinion inside the Woody. And we know we got a bear in egg in every single week. I mean, it's a really good team. It doesn't matter how it beat the last two teams. This is a whole completely different team. Thank you. Sorry. That's all our questions on Zoom. All right. We'll go back to the local level here. Phil Rebenoins, Columbus Dispatch.

1:31:04I mean, you guys travel. Your fans travel very well. But obviously this game is in Dallas. Do you guys kind of thrive and like the playing front of hostile crowds? I think guys kind of like going into enemy territory sometimes. You know, it feels good being a little bit of the villain, you could say. But yeah, I mean, obviously you got to take into fact that it isn't in Texas. So it could be a lot of environment. It could be like an away environment. We obviously know that. But I mean, that's right. Where you put the ball down. We're just going to come show up and play. And I think there's a staff that you guys, your opponents have not been called for a holding call since September or something like that. Is that something that you guys are aware of? And do you guys point out on the film? Anything called that one? Maybe call that one. Yeah, we're aware of this. We don't pay attention to too much. So you guys just play. I don't really have too much to say about that. You guys just play through it and just let your talent take over it. I want to come down to a ref decision. Over here to the right, Austin Ward, podcast.

1:32:06So I mean, it didn't feel like against Oregon that you guys had to blitz as much as you had in maybe some other games in the second half of the season. Why is that? What does it allow the linebackers to do when you don't have that responsibility? What made that a successful approach on Wednesday? Yeah, I think when you got as talented as guys, we do the front with those four guys up front. I mean, a four-man pressure is feeling like a six-man pressure to the quarterback. So you're able to drop out and be able to drop everyone else in the cover. So it makes it a lot easier on our defense when the defensive line is just taking over like that. It's tough for an offense to do anything. We got four-man rush, feel like a zero coming at you. And then you guys are dropping into the cover. It's kind of just shelt over the field. I mean, it definitely makes the defense a lot easier for everyone else when the defensive line is playing like that. Jim Knowles has talked about this a little with having so many veteran players that you could make different game plans. You don't have to just be pigeon-hold into one thing.

1:33:06We got to week. Does it feel when you get in there and you guys start game planning? Like they are very different for every opponent for you guys at this point? I don't know if I would say that. I think they keep it simple enough where guys aren't like confused when we're doing. I mean, it might look like that for like the quarterback. We might be giving them different looks and things like that. But I don't think it's over-complicated at all. I mean, I might just be because we got a veteran defense as well. So it could be a little bit biased. But that's kind of the way it feels. It doesn't feel over-complicated when I got. We'll go to Joey Coppen, Columbus, this back. Sonny, how do you think it's helped you guys to get Caleb Downs, Jack Downmore into the box, and play the late in the season, and that seems like more, how does it help you guys? I mean, I think both our safety's have done a really good job dropping down in the box and coming down faster, and running support. I mean, I think when you see guys coming from 12 yards and they're making tackles for two yards games, it's all that's pretty impressive.

1:34:06I mean, you saw Latham's last game come from the weak side, Boundary Hash, about 10-12 yards. You come down, hit the dude at two yards, and then Columbus knocked him out. So, I mean, both our safety's are super impressive in the run game. So it definitely makes the defense, usually you're dropping the safety in, usually those four yard runs, five yard runs, and where they're stopping for two yard runs, no yard runs. So, super impressive, and it helps the defense on a lot. We'll go to Jeremy Birmingham, the podcast. So, how much does the defense structurally changed since the four yard game in IndieG, or is there some more of the lost side running guys just being more better in and knowing the defense better, or has there been fundamental changes that have been made? Because it looks a lot different. I mean, I think there's been some changes, but I think a lot of it's been a mentality of trying to be a speed more aggressive than we're just trying to... It's having an aggressive mindset. I think you've seen that in shows up on tape, with the pressures, the TFLs, and things like that.

1:35:06And I think we've gotten a lot better since the beginning of the year, and we've kind of improved on the issues that have shown up each week, because the issue is always there. And I think we've improved on those really well, and then obviously we look like completely different teams now. You've got even different aggressiveness from the coaching staff, so that's not just your coach's goals and individual position coaches like Coach Lawrence, but even from my day, like, is he been a different type of leader? I think he's been a great leader the whole year. I think after that team on Norfolk, we kind of hunkered down and say, hey, we're going to get up, and we're going to start swinging, and we're going to keep swinging as hard as we can, and see what happens at the end of the game. And I think this will be doing the past two games, and this worked out pretty well. Next to Mick Walker, Letterman Row. So, you mentioned a great fight in earlier. What stands out to you about Gunner and Helm? And how do you kind of take out a guy that's such a focal point for all of us? I think he runs great routes. He has good hands. I think they set up some really nice plays for him.

1:36:07You see some of those plays where he kind of sneaks out of the protection, and comes out wide open. I think the biggest thing that stands out is probably the routes in the hands. He's super impressive for a tie-down. Obviously, he always been wearing where he's out in the field, and there's going to be some explosive play set up on him. Any other questions here? Cancel them. Yeah, absolutely. Tim May, Letterman Row. I'm sorry. Good minute eruption. Jerry. When you were in a nutshell, how would you describe him to someone? Because he seems even more effective when he kind of gets out of the pocket or moves around and stuff. So, Andy, what do you see when you think of him? I would say the capability of like Erwin on the game, not him getting his routine, like some of those routine throws, routine throws. They run the ball, and it's play action shot. 50 yards in the field. It's like that. I think he's a super good job with that. Being able to sell the play action and pull the safety's up, and then hit you down, feel it with a 60 yard bomb, something like that.

1:37:09So I think that's the biggest thing that stands out to me on film. He's a super talented quarterback, super talented arm talent. He can get the ball on many different ways. But that's probably how I put it in the nutshell. He's just super talented player. You can make any throw on the field. Like you said, he can move around a little bit. I don't think people respect that enough, his legs. He can move around and extend the plays. It hurts you down, feel. The guy used to be in this building, at least for four or five months. I wasn't really here with him, but the only thing is really odd. You play some former players before, but obviously he's a talented player. I think a lot of guys have a lot of respect for him. So it's just somebody a good match. I'm excited for it. Go to Bill Rebellion, Columbus Dispatch. Adam, the win will talk to you next. I'll ask you now. I'm sure it's the last thing you're following your mind. And we'll talk about, do you have any idea what you can do about next year? I mean, you obviously can go to the NFL. Do you have any thoughts on that right now? No, I haven't thought about it at all. Just worry about winning. Scotty, that's it from Columbus for sunny styles.

1:38:11Any more on your end? No more on our end. Thank you, sunny. Thank you. Okay. End of this game. You know, we knew we needed to be physical, play downhill football and go at him. And I think our O-line took that challenge and ran with it, man. And those dudes are our bad SOBs, man. And they're coming downhill and just rocking people off the ball. And I think they're playing really, really good football right now. They're getting, they're just continuing to get better every single week. I think they played really well last week. I think they played, I haven't watched the film yet, but I think they played really, really well this week. Who is that? Mech, love you, mech. But the overall, man, those guys are playing their butts off. And then, you know, I mean, you let Q and Trey do the rest. And we say, we want to have our O-line get to and our backs get to every single play. And, you know, I think our O-lines get us four and our backs can get us, you know, 60 plus. So, I mean, it's, it's good. And I mean, our O-lines playing at a really, really high level right now.

1:39:11And, you know, across the board, I'm really proud of those guys. Noah Weiskov, the Lantern. After that first half, what was the message to the team in the locker room? I mean, I wouldn't say anything was really different, man. It was, we just came out and we said, you know, it's a new half. And, you know, every, we always put the emphasis on that middle eight, you know. And, and ending the first half the right way and starting the second half the right way. And we didn't, we did not execute the middle half and the first half. But coming out of, of the half time, going down, getting to score, you know, getting a couple turnovers. Like, that was huge. And that was, you know, our emphasis was like, we've got to come out and start fast. We've got to go down, get to score. You know, we deferred so we get the ball first. And then we got to come out and get some stops. I mean, the defense played an unbelievable game today. And when you got defense, it's going to shut them down like they did. I mean, it's hard, hard not to win a lot of games. Andy Baxter, a letterman, a row. I was about earlier this year. There's open and then there's Ohio State Open.

1:40:11How much of that factor in the red zone with a mecca and just where you at? With kind of adopting that? Yeah, absolutely, man. It's, it 101, you know, is, they're open. And I've said that. And, you know, I have all the trust in the world and those guys. And I've seen them do it and practice. You know, it makes my job easy when I can, when I can throw a ball to a mecca on that corner out there. Last touch on that we had. Wasn't a great throw, honestly. You know, we, we, we practiced that play on the hash mark. You know, where I had a little more time to throw that. And, you know, we have it in the right middle. So it's a little more off the hash. We got to be a little quicker with it. And I left it a little inside and mech made a great play. And, you know, it's just like things like that. Just giving guys chances. And I mean, in JJ, like that one handed catch is, I mean, it's stupid. Like it's, it's, you know, you just let them, let them go make plays, man. And, and it's, and it's fun to watch. It's, it's easy. And, you know, it makes, makes my job, makes my job pretty nice. Over to the right. James Watkins, Cleveland.com. What are you playing big games before? Which means you played in games before big games before, trapped games, something to say.

1:41:11What do you think you learn about a team in these kind of moments? And what did you learn today? Yeah, we said this coming into this game. You know, we were going to learn about this, we were going to learn a lot about this team and our toughness. And our, you know, our ability to, you know, block out the noise and go down and get to work. And, you know, we knew we had a big one coming up this week. But we knew that this was a big one too. And I think our ability to just come out there and play some smash mouth football a little bit. You know, I think we started well. You know, the first quarter, we only had one drive. It was 14 plays and we went down and scored. And, you know, the second quarter, you know, just, you know, two turnovers, a turnover on downs. You know, we beat ourselves, you know, it's, it's never, you know, the other team beating us is us beating ourselves. But, you know, it's all about how you respond and we came back and we did a great job. So, you know, I'm proud of the way that we played, but, you know, we got a big one coming up next week. So I'm excited. If we can start to wrap up with Donovan Jackson in the back, please. And we got two more questions for Will Howard up front. Bill Rabinovitz, Columbus Dispatch. Everyone has been pointing to this already game all season. I was out of his test.

1:42:11How well prepared are you guys? How do you feel going into that game with all the states? I think confidence-wise, we feel great. You know, we've, we've continued to iron things out and get better every single week. And I think that's true. I think we've learned a lot about ourselves and about this team. You know, I think going into this game, you know, we know that it's, it's a big one. And, you know, I haven't really looked at it yet. We knew that this Iowa team was going to be a good team. So, I mean, we, you know, I looked at it a little bit, you know, on the by-week. And I started checking them out and seeing, you know, what they're about. I'm excited, man. It's going to be, it's going to be a good challenge, you know, played against Dylan a couple times. He's a great player. You know, their defense is good. You know, I know Dan Kochlanning is a, you know, a good coach and he's going to have them ready. So, I'm excited to get home now and start watching some film and get ready for these guys. And final questions for Will, Tim May, Letterman, or all? Yeah, just real quick. Well, the way the first half ended for you is, you know, in a monologue going, hey, I'm better than him. You know what I mean? Absolutely. So, you just get straightened out, I guess, at halftime.

1:43:11And then, in number two, someone will get another question. You and Dylan gave it, you know, two guys from a big play. I'm not going against each other. I'm a big, big pin show, yeah. What does that mean to you? Yeah, man, it'll be fun. You know, going into the, going into halftime, yeah, I was, I was, yeah, I was, I was pissed at myself, you know, because I feel like it's uncharacteristic, you know, putting the ball in harm's way like that. You know, I want to be safe at the ball in my decision making. I'd like to hang my hat on that. And, you know, it's just like, but at the end of the day, man, like, you just got to flush it and move on. You can't dwell on it too long in the moment. You know, we'll go back right now and I'll go watch the film and, you know, be critical as critical as possible and say, you know, can't do this. You know, it got to be better. But in the moment, like, it's very, very, very important to just move on and brush it off. And then, yeah, going in and next week, you know, with Dylan, man, I actually, in 2022, we played at Oklahoma and I was ageing with still playing. So I never actually have got to play against Dylan, but I know him.

1:44:11He's a good dude, man. And, you know, I got one of my, one of my boys from, from K-State, one of their safes. So I'm excited to go out there. It's going to be, it's going to be a fun game, man. Well, thank you very much. Thank you. I'll go books. You know, go up the table. So it's fun to play with guys like that. And, you know, it just opens up the offense as I actually do. So it's a lot fun. What's the, what's the answer to the struggles in the right-hand corner pushdown? Yeah, I think we just need to clean up some little things. I mean, it's one of two things every time. So we definitely got to figure that out and clean it up as we go. Back some of you, we talk about the talent of you guys at an all-man. We have those red zone struggles, how do you do that? Yeah, I mean, these guys take steady. I mean, we know what we're capable of, and there's, you know, we're still confident. And what we can do, you know, we stay confident. So, I think, you know, the first day is, how much today's talk about, you know, the first, you know, you can want to succeed all over the field, but especially with the tight ends. Yeah, just how fun has it been? What's it like being part of an offense that, you know, has you to do so many different things?

1:45:12Have so many different formations and things like that? Yeah, no, it's fun. I mean, rolling in and out with those guys is a lot of fun. Cash, bank accounts is fun. So it's been fun to do a lot of different things. And it's a lot of new things that, you know, I'm just using things a lot better out. So, I'm excited about that. Like you're sitting here, like, you're not comfortable with all the things that you're feeling. Yeah, I think I've become a lot better. I mean, the goingness is gas every day. I've defense and some real decent stuff. You have no option but to look at it and it's been fun. When you're out there, it's not as easy as you've seen as a group. Oh, yeah, I mean, we have these four games, trash kind of stuff. We have a lot of improvements to making. And I think we're excited about that. See where we can do this after this by week. That's the biggest lesson. That's the biggest lesson. Or, say, stay, stay, you're a kid. Don't get to die. I mean, it's a little, I mean, there's going to be ups and downs. But you've got to say, you've got to say, you know what I'm saying. When you're out there with JJ, does it amaze you some of the things that he does? Yeah, I mean, you see it every day of practice. So, honestly, now I see it.

1:46:14It doesn't really amaze me as much because you see it every day. But he has a special talent. You have a chance in certain plays. We get to do that. And allowing certain guys in certain places to really mess up the quarterback is thinking. So it allows us to have more pressure and be able to allow us to do more moves at the time because it makes it all fun and it's confused. And what we're doing is about putting places in there really mixes up the patch for us. So allow us to get sad. Tim May, under the role. Yeah, with that said, like, for example, S-39 against E.M. Allie Ava. I said it right. I think. But again, he was quite elusive in stuff. Was that a good, I don't know, prep for this week? Dylan gave us a little bit different scramble, but he still gets the job done. Oh, yeah. That was definitely good to have because, like I said, I mean, all the quarterbacks were very mobile and being. If you want to have more experience versus mobile quarterbacks, it helps us, obviously. You know, just help us home and learn from our, where we have, and how to go through the hole and how to score. And what we can learn from those crampals and we go from that game and the past game we played against the organ, just learning, learning the quarterbacks tendencies and when they like to run, where they like to run,

1:47:15and everybody helps us out, really closing the cage and placing the pocket for them. Is there a fine line between being aggressive but also being wary? This guy can slip away. You know, slip away. You're saying what I'm saying, Tommy? Yeah. You can't just go right at him and go ahead. I'm sorry. Yeah, he's definitely a quarterback and then gets outside the pocket. So I mean, he's definitely a threat. He's a main guy in the offensive runs the show. So I mean, be able to stop him and contain him, really slows the offense down. So be able to cage the pocket and be able to slow him down and make him make more decisions on the run and moving around. Everybody helps us. Go ahead. One more. Him, I'm sorry. Well, no, I didn't want to ask about their center. Their center, what I impressed with you with him was, I mean, you guys played. He seemed to have a pretty good game, you know, and he's kind of a tough guy to move out of there and stuff he looks like. I mean, what's your impression of him? He's definitely one of the better centers in the conference. I mean, he's a really good guy. I mean, be in there and be in there and be in the size and be able to move the way he can. It's really hard to get around him at times, but he's definitely having the game plan and working against him, working to tend to see that he has a good work against that.

1:48:18It really helps me. Yeah. You've got the real middle, Steven Leonard, college football, how old is it? Yeah, kind of piggybacking on that. How much of it was there offensive line being a strike that are team versus Dylan Gabriel being able to escape and the lack of pressures that we had on our defense? Oh, yeah. I mean, when you got a good offensive line, it makes it even better for a quarterback, you know, being able to roll out to know that your line was going to help you protect you when you're in the pocket. So, I mean, it makes it easier for throws and it makes it harder for us, honestly, for having a good offensive line. So, I mean, like I said before, just being able to attack that offensive line, attack their weaknesses and be able to go after them and make it harder for the quarterback, means harder for them or rural. For the right, Andrew Gillis, believe me, doc, what's the challenge? Similar to Tim's question, and you know, when you play a team like this that runs the level of RPOs that they do that wants to do, how do you stay true and be aggressive and force the issue where, you know, Dylan Gabriel is really good at making them great. Oh, yeah. Like I said, just putting pressure on them, means we just be able to get back there. I mean, we got a lot of different plays that can help us get back to our passer and playing and playing to their tendencies, you know.

1:49:22A lot of times they have the RPOs, the RPOs helps them out, it means they get the ball out fast. I mean, things like Jackson and JTB, you know, get their hands up, knock the ball down, crazy stream them out of pressure for the quarterback when you got hands in your face all times. And final questions, Bill Rebenowitz, Columbus Dispatch? We've asked about Dylan Gabriel and receivers. They're not one dimensional. They're a good one back in Jordan, James. What makes him special and what's the challenge for you guys? I think he's definitely one of the better running backs on the conference as well. I mean, just how hard he runs is it's hard to bring him down at times. So I mean, as a front pro, we probably stopping around. That's the first thing we're going to do as we go on the game. I mean, past Russian is good and all, but we can't stop the run. I mean, they're going to run the ball down and throw all the time. So all the time we have to figure out how we're going to stop them. We're going to run the ball and then we're going to take them down. So I mean, it's our job as a front pro to go on there and stop the run. We're going to make them one dimensional as we go out there. So I mean, if you get up there every time every mindset, we go out there and we're going to get them. We're not going to allow them to get in the yards, allow them to get going. We're going to stop them. We're going to make them throw the ball.

1:50:23When I, uh, JT was up here asked him about how to compare contrast him and Jack as personalities. What's your take on that? How different are they as just personalities? I definitely think Jack is more outgoing. I mean, the guy is nice. The light that shines around me and everybody goes around him and everybody loves him. I was going, they're going to come to you, shake your hand any time of day and then JT is more of the blue guy. I mean, a lot of guys gravitate to him. I mean, he just has a bright smile on him all the time. He's just a great guy that people like to be around. I mean, they're two good people. So it's hard to tell. And Ty, I do that one more question for you. Tony Irvin, fuck that up. You guys obviously have faced tough, but you did it last week. What's the key for you as a defensive one in facing tempo? Uh, yeah. I mean, we've been going through all week in the past two weeks to just get set. I mean, that's the first thing you do. If you're not set, it makes it harder to do your job. So let's be able to get on the ball, get set before they're lined up and set the ball is one and more important thing. So when we're set, we're able to do our jobs at the efficiency day before they can do theirs.

1:51:23How do you call it? It can be difficult at times. You know, you gotta look to the signline first. You gotta get the call. I mean, the call has to be set down first. So it can't be difficult at times, but that's definitely what we've been working on the past three weeks to just get the call, get the call early, get set. So we can go and be play faster. You've changed the play to one side of the field. And now it looks lined up. They're going to be handed to the other side. So like, you've got to just run the signline sideline just to get the money. Yeah. I mean, I have a lot of last game, you know, it's hard. It's definitely tough. I mean, that's what we work on and practice. Just moving as fast as we can, simulating these things so we can get into the game. That's a lot easier. So we moving around side to side, running around, doing extra conditioning just for moments like this. Time. Thank you very much. Thank you. Thanks, time. You're going to try to get better every day, you know, and never be satisfied. And, you know, he was very demanding, you know, very demanding on his players.

1:52:23He's a man. He has coaches. You know, he just very competitive. You know, and I've said this before, there's just, there's a lot of similarities between these two programs. And maybe the personalities are different, but, you know, but, but, but, but, you know, when I first, first day, I got here. First day, our first staffing coach, Connie talked about about us being a more tougher, more physical, more disciplined for all team. And that's all coach and I would talk, you know, those are the things he would talk about, you know, and just having us being, being, being, being the toughest, most disciplined team out there. And, and, and, and that's, you know, so it's like it was left here in the same thing. And so, and that's what we're stressing and that's what we want to be. And that's what we're trying to be this year. We hear, and it'll go in the state. Well, some of them, some of them, these best teams, especially early on, are nasty.

1:53:26Yeah. It's a line and they got away from that, I don't know, maybe someone would do this, but how do they get back to being like that physical? Well, yeah, I think we got to, I mean, I, we got to be demanding on them and we got to, we got to, instill the toughness and continue to, instill the toughness, continue to instill discipline. And, and just not be satisfied, you know, and, and, and, and, and just be demanding on them. Yeah. What is a being called, a ball can? Well, I mean, I just, I just want us to get better every day. And I want us to, my, my goal, again, is for us to, to, to, to be tougher and to be more physical and, and, and, and, and to be, and to be, and to be more disciplined, you know, and, and, and really focus on those things. And, and, and I know if we do, that that will carry over to us being successful in the field. Yeah. It's being, being such a veteran. How have you seen social media pack in critical areas?

1:54:29Well, it's, it's impacted quite a bit. Yeah, it's, it's, it's, it's very interesting, you know, and, it's, it's, it's taking me, you know, I got a, you know, wow, to get used to all of it. Yeah. I'm not saying I'm great on it, but. Yeah, but I'm on Twitter and all that good stuff. And so, so, you know, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's been, it's been fine. It's been, it's been, but it's, it is, it is having an impact on, on, on, on, on, on recruiting, for sure. Yeah. The differences between these types of style of offense and how we can stay strong on this, and it's a little more spread out. How does that affect you, Jim? Well, that's a great question. I mean, that was probably the biggest transition for me was, was just, and one of the most exciting things for me was being able to be a part of this offense, because Coach Gundy's offices have been the best, some of the best in the country period. I mean, they've been awesome. So, I wanted to be a part of that. But with that, it was, you know, it can't just stay, we were, we were, you know, ground and pound and we were a lot of quarterback running in some way.

1:55:35And, and, but also just taking as much time on the clock as we could so we can keep the, keep the ball away from other defenses, you know, for other, other, other offices. And so, just slowing down and that type of stuff. So, here was playing fast and getting guys to just teaching my guys to, you know, to get up and make the calls and get the points. And that was different. And so, but that's kind of where I was, where I was going to, where I was, you know, where, hey, I just being able to, to resource Johnny and Marcus, hey, you know, how do you guys do that? You know, what, what, what were some of the things, you know, and Jason Meckendood was really helpful with that as well. You know, so, but it's been a great transition. It's been a great transition. How does your job in Immigil with Shawn Lison, depending upon who wins the quarterback job, one may be more old than the other, what is that, how are you going to like it? Well, it's been great with Shawn. Shawn's awesome. I mean, I've said Shawn's got a, he's got a vision. He knows where he, what he wants and he's very passionate. He's very intense, very detailed.

1:56:43And so, you know, he knows, he knows exactly where he wants his offense to go. And so, I'm really excited. I'm really excited to get a chance to work with him. And the whole offensive staff has been awesome. You know, Waz and Casey and Matt have all been great. So it's really good. Touch Gundy talking about trying to recruit you from Kansas State before and obviously this time. All of those pitches, like in those conversations that I did with him at those times. Well, I mean, it was great. Coach Gundy's, you know, he's, he was awesome. And so, it just circumstances just, for whatever reasons, just didn't allow me to, to be able to, to do it. But, but, but I'm just grateful now for this opportunity. I'm just grateful to Gami call. I guess that's one thing I am very grateful for. I'm very, very thankful for that he, you know, he gave me that call. So I'm very, really excited to be here.

1:57:43Obviously, we all have work to do. So we're going to keep doing that. But he's a, he's a great guy. Oh, yeah, you know, just to try my hardest in spring, obviously moving the fall can be no, do my job. And wherever, you know, you're going to put the best five on the field at the end of the day. So whatever coach Boeing thinks that's going to be his decision. You mentioned having four offensive line coaches. How much does that help to have, you know, so many different brain. It definitely helps a lot, you know, whenever you have a question, it's so easy to get feedback. I mean, you don't have to ask this coach, but when you guys did, you, if you want to, whoever you want to ask is just so many resources. So, compared to, you know, as you're, we just had, we had three, three guys. It was just in private and coach leaner than one of a guy. But it's been a lot different. I've been lacking a lot more. Do you feel like you're able to get more, you know, individual instruction of having so many coaches like that? I definitely said that we know we hold a lot of meetings. So, you know, talking to specific coaches about different things, you know, all them explains up a little different. Just to be able to find one that is, you know, it speaks to you in the way you like it to. So, it's been a lot helpful.

1:58:43Are you said that you changed your body a little bit since you got here? Have you felt the difference already in spring hall? I definitely have, you know, I would say I was a physical in high school, but I've been a lot more physical. I can tell just, you know, a coach making the strength staff. You know, they help you a lot. Just exposing all that. So I appreciate the strength staff a lot. And once you're January, you're with team. How much has that helped you and the other early enrollees not just getting their hair, but you're learning the culture of our athletes? So, coach, they asked all the seniors before we came in. They asked us if they were okay for us to come with the playoffs with them. And they all just give it a green light. They wanted us to experience that for the next time we're in the playoffs. So we can see that I think that's helped tremendously. I think I made this mature just being around those guys and knowing what to do when we do get to that place. So, you know, you're in ways that you've already seen that fit off? I definitely can say, you know, just maturity-wise, especially from this class. I think we all just came in a little bit maybe immature, but we've definitely grown throughout that process. Just see the way a guy like Dott of Inchax and stepped up for obviously, unless you're how inspiring is that for you? It's very inspiring, you know, me and Dany were pretty close to like to talk to him a lot. So, you know, just seeing him move from guard to sac on just make such a huge jump in that little time was just really cool to watch.

1:59:50Carter, the especially the three primary coaches you're working on, do they all speak the same language? If you follow my drill? I mean, who do you listen to most, I guess, in those kind of situations? You know, they're all from different places. So, at first, I think it was a little hard for them to mention the little lingo, but now they've got it down packed. They're all at the same exact thing. So, that's been helping a lot. I mean, obviously they can explain stuff a little different if you'd like them to. Yeah. But they've been doing a good job of keeping everything together. And Coutic in particular, what's he brought? What's he brought to you? What are some tidbits or, you know, things he's brought to open your eyes a little bit? Just let a little older place to aga say he's not like too fancy on all the technique stuff. So, I like just how straightforward he is with all the technique stuff for sure. It's very straightforward. I know you know Luke pretty well, both of you from Toledo. How have you just seen Luke grow here so far going into this year? I think I've been watching him for a while. You know, I've known him like you said. But I've just seen him grow as a leader. He's been really cool. Just seeing him a while back, you know, I think all the software he's seen here, we always play to each other. But seeing him move into that leader role has been really cool to see.

2:00:51What kind of leadership is he bringing to that unit right now? Just always talking to the younger guys, encouraging us, you know, tell us what we need to do. And not only the younger guys, but the other guys just encourage us as a whole. And what does his story mean to you? I mean, obviously this time a year ago, he wasn't even sure where he was going to fit in or whatever. Now, especially through the playoffs, he was a force. I mean, what does it just tell you about perseverance, but also a season? I think it really is just never give up. I mean, obviously you might not start the first game, maybe not even the second game. But you can always make an impact if you really, if that's your desire. Who you've been meeting on, so that's going to be displayed on team. Nice guard kind of teaching the ropes and kind of teaching tricks to train to move, you know, all the offensive lines. I would say Austin and Luke a lot, you know, I talked to him for your office, especially about technique stuff. Also been playing a little different places. So he's been helping a lot of my small technique things. Just what to do for sure. Is it the small stuff that is a big adjustment from playing golf? Is that really kind of getting into the question?

2:01:51Yeah, it's definitely the smaller stuff. There's like, you know, hand protection stuff like that. Nothing to address it. So it's been good. The trade just hasn't been too crazy. Exactly what positions in one rep? Only a left tackle. Yeah, so far, you feel pretty comfortable there. I feel very comfortable. These are grown men. You're going to get a kidnata and Kaden, like 22, 23 years old. Yeah, yeah. Obviously that's a lot different than high school. You're playing what 16, 17, most 18. So it hasn't been a lot different. I first co-practice were my best. I've definitely adjusted a pretty well this spring. Two more questions. Part of that last Jaymon's kind of the same thing. You guys obviously coach Mike was very close. He came up to lead a handful of time. But all the time you get up here, he's gone. How's it been getting in the new offensive line? It's been really good. You know, obviously we had all the freshmen had a really good relationship with coach Fry. Then seeing him leave was actually a little hard, but we all kept our minds open with coach Boan and we're liking him a lot. We've been developing relationships with him and he's been really good to us so far. Good. All right, Carter. Thank you.

2:02:51Thank you. Guys, in the room. I mean, I'm not sure. It's probably something you got to ask him, but you know, Jeremiah has played with a lot of great guys throughout his career. He's seen all the talent you can see in the world, but I don't know if he's ever in all, but I mean... Oh, and I, oh yeah. I mean, I'm not surprised at anything he does now. Like I've seen him since we were nine years old. So anything he does, anyone hand-catch, I've seen, I'm not surprised at anything he does. When he was nine, did you know this is something special we even met at any of the nine? Yeah, I mean, coaches were coming up to us complaining that we were nine years old. Like, can we get their IDs and stuff like that? So, I mean, there's definitely some footage that we got to go find, but the place we used to make when we were younger is just to see where he is now. It's amazing. And it seems very unaffected by all of the start-ups. Yeah. How did that happen? I think how he was raised. He's very level-headed. He knows his goals and what he wants to get done in life.

2:03:56And this is just one step of the way for him. Can I throw a back to Texas for a couple of questions on Zoom, Scotty? Yes, sir. We're going to start with Defon from Clemen.com. Go ahead. Brandon, I want to go back to what you were talking about with Coach Day earlier. You know, whenever he talks about this team's success, he says all the credit goes through players. It seems like the players think that he deserves some of the credit. How big? How influential has he been during the turnaround you guys have had these last few weeks? He's been huge, man. Coming here after that team of Northwest, you know, it was heartbreaking, of course. But we came in here. We had a leadership meeting. He was in here. I mean, and then we had a team meeting after that. Hearing the stuff he had to say and we had to say, going back and forth, we just, we knew. We have his back no matter what. I mean, there's a lot of stuff set about him and his family and stuff like that. But in here, we're brotherhood and we're family. And we just, we don't stand by him no matter what.

2:05:01Our next question is going to come from Dan. Hope Dan go ahead. Brandon, I mean, I'm sure you came in here to Ohio State thinking you'd probably be starting here in your second year. But it seems like you really embraced the growth process. Just what's kind of that process that like for you kind of embracing your role this season and continuing to develop? Yeah. In life, things doesn't go the way you exactly planted to. And that just happened. Things happened to Mecca last year that allowed him to come back and that allowed me to learn more. And that's just how I see it. Makes me a better football player for the future. So yeah, I mean, yeah, that's it. Three more on zoom. Next one's going to come from Stefan means. Go ahead. Steven, but that's not. Yeah, you're good. Brandon, there are a lot of clips of you this year where you're super, super excited after a block.

2:06:05And kind of showing your emotion there. What about blocking do you love so much as a receiver? Just being able to hit another guy with all my power. It's hard as I can without any consequences. Except if you hold, of course, but yeah, just bringing that power. I mean, I heard some of the defensive guys telling me yesterday they were like, wow, I hate to go against you. So knowing that from the defensive guys. So I know what the other defensive guys are thinking like just keep bringing it so that they they're not going to like it for four quarters. That's my mindset. Next question is going to come from Danny Davis. Danny go ahead. Brandon, what are your impressions of these Texas defensive backs and this kind of we've seen from them on film so far? Yeah, the last couple of days we watched them. They're fast team. They don't give up many big plays down field. They're aggressive, but I actually know some of the DB's they have at corner there. I play with them.

2:07:08Well, I played with Malik Muhammad at SFE. So I might know him a little bit. And we have a watching them. They're fast team. They're physical. They're disciplined. But we just got to get the job. Give any Malik stories or any any. You remember about playing with them? Yeah, but I'm not going to say them here. Yeah, what's this keep that? Our final question is going to come from Kurt Bulls. Kurt, go ahead. Hey, Brandon. One of the issues Texas has had the second half of the year is it's finishing. And what if you can speak to and they had a trouble obviously in the pitch bowl, you know, blue was 16 point league. And you talk about finishing and having a killer instinct and you guys obviously seem to have that now. Yeah, I think that started started in offseason training at fall camp. We always say go plus two. If you're doing a 10 yard pro shuttle to a you have to go plus two throughout the line.

2:08:14And that's just finishing it was well. And then fall camp. We had these long two and a half hour practices or whatnot. And then we came out and we had to do these finishers. We called them ask for games late in the year like this. And we I think Coach Day has a great did a great job preparing all of us for these moments. And yeah, we just were ready to go. We have time for just a couple more questions and clumpets so we can wrap up with our other two guys. Bill Landis, Kings of the North. Randy, maybe on second touchdown run. It seemed like you took two players out of the play first with your release and then with the guy you actually walked. Is that how it's designed? Or was it just lucky to be the guy decided to take off inside of the release? It's actually designed for me to block the safety and lead the corner 101 with the running back. But I was surprised that the corner actually came in so far in my lease. I think he thought it was a pass. But I think he was the edge of the defense. If you go watch that play, but I don't know.

2:09:16I don't really know why he came in so far, but it helped out for us. And I made my block interior score. Are any lessons there for like even a young receiver watching that that even if you know on the play, you're not getting the ball. You're intended to block, but you your release has to be at all point like as if you're going to go pitch pass. Yeah, definitely. Every little detail matters and then type of plays. We were in a red zone there. We say every yard matters. It's two yards. So the block I made is just a testament to Cal coach hardline prep me throughout the week to make that block. And final question. Joy Conference, Columbus Dispatch. Brandon Will and then there's been some of the ball to equal lately, especially the way you guys have opened games. What do you think is this quick for you guys and for him and watching those buzz? A lot more confidence. I say throughout the year. We were always there as offense. We had we didn't know we didn't quite know our identity. And now slowly but surely I think we found that and we're going to keep on rolling and he's made some great throws and.

2:10:20Yeah. I'm sorry, Brandon. I do have one more steep. I'll go into the 24-7 score. Brandon, there've been opportunities for you to play a huge role on offense and you know the number of plays you play in game can differ from one week to the next. But the opportunity is coming sooner rather than later for you to be in every down player. Just what are the things you need to do in your game to take it to where it is now to be in every down guy? I think there's a lot of things I could work on in my game. I would say continuing to be football smart by IQ. Just knowing what the defense is going to do before they do it. My routes always can get better. My hands always can get better staying on the jugging machine. Work ethic. Keep on top of it. Don't get satisfied with anything I do. And don't get too big. Don't get too low. Don't get too high. Don't get too low. That's what they say. Do you feel like a guy that the people follow it seems like just in your mind, even the second you're guy that you're kind of working toward being kind of a leadership type guy?

2:11:23I got to have guys that will take that role. Yeah. It's a great feeling of course. No guys are watching what you do and listening to what you do. But I just feel like we do that with a lot of players here and not just myself. But the leadership we have on this team is like no other. And that's what I've got so far I think. Brandon, thank you very much for being in meetings last year and being around the program as long as he's been around the program. Does that show up more on the field during the classroom? If there is any advantage for him? Yeah, I mean, he wasn't out here practicing last year. The first time that he was out here running around the field was in December when he came up for practice as an early and early or January or whatever that was. So I think there's a little bit of advantage there just because it did get to see practice before. But again, I think that you do have some understanding and awareness of the offense and maybe it's not the first time you hear about the formations but to be able to go and apply that to the field. I mean, that takes a lot of work.

2:12:23So there is a slight advantage there just from how much he was around the program. But I'm not sure if in the meeting room or on the field in which one affects more ultimately. We're a judge based on what we do on the field and our goal is to go out there and execute it. How do you guys show that they are the toughest guys on the team when they get in touch? Yeah, we talk about it all the time. So if we want to show where the toughest guys on the team, we can do that by showing where the hardest working guys on the team. We can show that we are the mentally toughest guys on the team. We can make sure that we don't ever get too high or too low and we play with passion and emotion without letting that emotion and passion play with us and affect us. And we talk a lot in the quarterback room about moving on to the next most important thing. So if I have a play where maybe I made the wrong read or screwed something up, I've got about half a second to be able to do that. I've got to learn from it and move on to the next most important thing because so many guys let that first play affect the next play.

2:13:24So we're really working to continue to grow from that. But as far as showing that we're tough, I even sell our guys that, hey, if I'm lost in Sarabot and I'm watching film and I see in the back of that film that Julian is up or Tavian is up but Lincoln and the opposite of Julian and Tavian are standing in the back doing a mental rep. That gives me confidence if I'm lost in that those guys, one understand what they're doing in two are committed to get better and are going to be in position to be tough and we need them to be tough. So little things like that are something that we're constantly working on to show that we're being in that position. What have you seen from Lincoln in your first year working with him? I've definitely seen a lot of growth from getting in here in June last year. To what we're seeing about now, it's just a full year of understanding the offense, a full year of getting a feel for what we're trying to do and what we're trying to accomplish. Just my new details about where my eyes need to be, how I can tie my feet in with my eyes, how I can make sure that I'm not just throwing the ball to the right receiver because that's what my red dictated.

2:14:33But I'm also throwing it at the right time and I have accuracy within that accuracy that I just displayed by putting it on the right shoulder or the right to offset our receiver and throw them away from a defender or whatever that may look like. So that's what I'm excited because you're starting to see more and more of that from Lincoln as we get into the two practices. We only have two practices but just that growth that I don't think is a growth that happened over two practices. The growth that happened from the time we got here and I got here in June through right now and that's what's exciting. He said no, three quarterback coaches in three years. Three, like all there's in three years, can that be like an advantage for him? Like understanding different concepts and different reads, having to see things through different lenses because he's had so many different voices in his head. How do you kind of give that? Yeah, I mean, he's had different quarterback coaches but the reality is it's been the same past game. It's been the same system. So it's not like we changed the way we read a play based on who the quarterback coach was before.

2:15:39We may make slight tweaks or adjustments or add a new concept in or two. But I think what Lincoln can get from having those three different quarterback coaches is maybe just three different slightly different perspectives where the message is still the same. So maybe it's just a slightly different delivery of the same message. And I think that can definitely be advantage because he still knows, you know, on this concept, this is where my read is. But maybe he heard it in a different way over the last three years and I guess could be an advantage. If you are he's quarterbacks and they're supposed to be tough as guy first guy with only last guy to me, but they're all trying to do that. How do you then separate yourself as one of those guys given they're all trying to strive to do the same things? Yeah, you know, I think the ultimately right is can I sustain it? Can I be the guy that does it most consistently? I think every single one of them, I know every single one of them saw that quote by coach day, which you know, it's pretty awesome.

2:16:44It's so real. It's here we have to be. We've got to be the toughest guys in the building. We've got to be the hardest working guys in the building. So it's easy to go ahead and you know, do that and be that guy. You know, the next day after seeing that quote, can I continue to be that guy when we're in practice 11 of spring ball or we're in summer and we're going through workouts with coach Mick. And it's June 17th, you know, can I be that guy with that consistency all the way up through fall camp? It into moving on into next year. And I think that, you know, anyone can do something just once. What can I be the guy that can do is consistency and if you look at anyone, there's something great. It's been because of their consistency. What do you think being able to train where does can we be the quarterback at Ohio State? Is the able to handle that position? Where does that fit into your evaluation? Yeah, I think, you know, all these guys were a lot of that was done in the recruitment process. I'm confident all three of them can be the guy I don't want to say.

2:17:46I think that, you know, those guys are already kind of checked that box. So, you know, now it's just a matter of who goes out as a job. And again, we are so far away from that point, but you know, when we're recruiting a guy, we try to figure all that stuff out. And we're gathering as much data as we possibly can to learn about the person and to understand their mental makeup and to make sure that they're fit. It's pretty cool up in the quarterback room. We've got pictures of all the great Ohio State quarterbacks up on the wall. And you go through and take a look at those guys. And, you know, it's just pretty neat. But above all, you can talk about some of the different guys' mental makeup and what made them different. And so how do we find those guys in breening them in and recruiting? And so we get to the point like we are now where you feel really confident about all three of those guys that they are, you know, mentally tough enough and can be at that point that they can't be that guy. What do you think they learned the most from Will and the job he did last year overall? You know, close to that. Yeah, I mean, where do I start? You know, Will, when it came to intangibles, was, you know, I haven't been, I can't say I've been doing this for 35 years or anything crazy like that.

2:18:52But was by far the best I've ever seen to it. And just as far as what he did the best, you know, I think it just having such a complete understanding of the offense, you know, from the run game to the past game to the protections. Just understanding, you know, the ins and outs and the little details and everybody's job and where, you know, certain concepts or protections or playstyles were weak. And how to adjust them if we were going to see something that made us weak there. You know, and having that total command because I think, you know, a big part of trust is showing that, you know, I'm competent and I understand. And so we'll build that trust in his teammates by showing that, you know, he's extremely competent. You know, he understood everything and all the ins and outs and you can tell everybody on the field what to do. And from there, then he built it, you know, grabbed on and grabbed the trust of all of his teammates. And then he could start to lead.

2:19:53So, you know, the biggest thing, it's tough to say. But I think that everything that he did was kind of built off this total understanding of what we were trying to do offensively. Billy, thank you very much. Thanks guys. Thank you for your time. Thank you very much Sean. How much pressure is on Steve Fence to perform to the high level of respect and should be the next one? Right. I would say that last year was, you know, we excelled in certain things, but we were also trying to get back to where we were in the past. So we got some great additions and we're excited for that. Ultimately, it's to use some of these guys to be the number one defense in the league. And that's always going to be the goal. So whatever we can do to utilize all the different talent that we have on this team to be the best and play as a team and to build the best chemistry that we got, that's what we're going to do. What's the end of that just offense? Just early, just early in the game. What's the end of that? Yeah, we're not used to going against the normal offense I have been the past three years.

2:20:58It's been a lot more moving, moving pieces. Definitely have to use your eyes pretty well because if not, then somebody's going to be open. But I like what they're doing. I'm very excited for it. I just know it's making our defense a little bit better because we're having to do different things, not just the normal offense we've been used to. I was going to say just because every other team has some variations of that one and this is, is that kind of, do you think that kind of benefit you? You've seen that more than the rest of it. I would say so. I mean, as the league has changed over time, I think they revert to certain offenses that do well in certain systems. I would say we're taking maybe a little bit pieces from other offense that we see to do well. So I like what we're doing. I mean, I don't know as much as some of these quarterbacks that we have on the team, some of the offensive players, but I just know it's tough to go against. I'm lowest at number last year, but still one of the top teams scored in defense. What do you guys really need to do to finish after the quarterback?

2:22:00Yeah, I would just say place heavy emphasis in practice. It's always going to start in practice with getting after the quarterback, not touch him in practice, but making some good moves. And I would just say rush more. I mean, there's so much that goes into it. It goes with the coverage. Everybody works together. I would say that we had great numbers, but we do. We are trying to get that number up, but the ultimate goal is always going to be the ball. Getting the ball taken away, getting off the field. We're putting our offense out there on the field, and we're staying off. That means that we're doing a good job. And you already asked about it from a competition standpoint, but from a collective standpoint, having new wins tomorrow, you're going to be able to feel what kind of a trio can do for a defense. And the sky is a limit with this group. I do believe we have one of the most talented linebacker core groups in the league. So just excited what we're going to be able to do out there on the field. I think we all compliment each other super well. Bigger guys that are explosive. So I'm excited for it.

2:23:06Thank you, Jimmy. I'm really excited to see the homoies recently, but yeah, it's there. You seem sunny this off season. Moving into. He's really stepped up as our like later of the defense. I mean, he's, you know, being in his room. I really get to see how he operates every day. Like he doesn't take a single rep off. He's not just like the most vocal leader, but he's also like he leads by example. He is he is one of the biggest, fastest, strong students we have, but he's also the hardest working dude we have. Like he's he's never skipping out on recovery. You know, watching film literally everything. He's, you know, he represents what a buck I feel ball player should be in. Just learning from him every day. I just it's helped me in time. Just every day. I mean, he's pretty he's pretty athletic. He knows what he's doing to. He's he's he's a savvy football player. And so it's good having him in the locker right next to me and us just talking ball every day.

2:24:07You know, how he could have done this better and I could have done this better. It's just making each other better and we're we're having fun out there and flying around. I mean, it's awesome having him because like he unders he really does understand it. I would say he understands it more than most guys. He was a captain in all American here. You know, like the stuff he's doing today, like every day he'll show some sort of, you know, every single week we're going through camp every day. He's going he's posting a picture of every all American linebacker we've had and we got to learn about him. Like not just the brotherhood we have here, but the past brotherhood. So we learn new new all American linebacker every week and we got to learn what he did for the bug guys and what he didn't believe and stuff like that. So I think it's helped a lot and then you know, he's having the young guys learn the fight song and pop quiz and stuff. So it's great. We're having a lot of fun.

2:25:12We had a lot of fun. You go actually. I'm also time because heat, I mean, like when you walk in the linebacker room, you just like when I walked in, I was like, man, this brotherhood is real. And I have older guys helping me when I got here because we had a pretty old team last year and they brought me in and I came in on a boot. And you know, I didn't know how I was going to go and they were they were all cheering me on even though like I was hurting the weight room. I'm getting cheered on in competitions and stuff like that. And guys like they know your name, you know, really. It's it's helped a lot. And so I think like this in this past year has really helped me, you know, bringing the young guys and you know, help with them and stuff like that. We're super tight as a linebacker unit. So it's been great. Who's this? Who's this week's all American? This week's all American. We had today was a pepper Johnson. So number 98. He's a he was a baller. So we've had we've had one every day like we've had different guys.

2:26:17So we had spielman yesterday. So it's just someone new every day and it's it's fun. Did you get here? Yeah. Lauren isa's a lot of stories about them, which is some funny stories. He hasn't he hasn't posted his yet. Eventually, I think you will. So we will. Yeah. I think I mean, I think all of them there just there's so like there's so many that have come through here. And I think it helps like there's a standard like you play linebacker here. Like the gold should be the best linebacker unit in the country across the board and have the best linebackers. And so I think that's really set a standard for us. Is it better to you going out of our way? You're getting it struck. Been there done that. I mean, at the highest level, how much does it enhance what he's telling you? Yeah, 100% I mean, it validates a lot of stuff. He says. I think that's one of the main reasons I liked him so much is that he's not only our personal relationship is great.

2:27:18But like he knows everything about the game and I'm learning so much every single day. And like you can't you can't find a coach who doesn't know more about linebacker than he does. And he's been through every situation. He knows you know, when the offense does this play what's what's what's hard for the linebacker on that play and he understands it, you know, finds ways to help us, you know, get through those plays and stuff like that. And then a lot I was I feel like it was one of my biggest accomplishments in my life up to now. Obviously, I could go one day to be a captain here, but I feel like it'll be an iron buck. I have it a big big off season or getting bigger and stronger. I think you just meant a lot because our teammates vote on it too. And so just knowing that like every day when we do those one on one competitions and leading guys, people are noticing that I was given everything I had. So it had been a lot to have coach make and all been choose made an iron buck. When the class of this off season that you started, you kind of visualize some goals that you had and was that one of them?

2:28:22Yeah, I mean, I think right right off the bat right when the last season ended, you know, my goal was to be a starter and iron buck and just taking steps every day. And we read a book, chop with care water and it's a lot about living in the present. And so I think that's how helped all of us at time is like, what can we do today? We are very best. And so I think that's that's what's helped me a lot. I mean, I still got a lot really good. So I mean, we still got plenty of time for this. Are you just being you the last question you did that? I mean, you're the main one. Were you getting your workers? You know, just being you, is that you're working at the beginning? Yeah, I mean, my parents are still a strong work ethic at me and not backing down for many situations and stuff like that. So I think just going in, you know, leading and giving everything I got every day is just how happened it was. Great. Thank you very much. I mean, we're just all excited to go out there and get here. Okay, well, anyway, the fact that the way that this defense has additions on every level,

2:29:23you know, talk about chasing the people to the line and the traffic there, you guys have willing to second level and then the third level, who they go on with Sean and most of them, how much pressure is on this defense to perform to the higher level of respect and should have been the last time? Right, I would say that last year was, you know, we excelled in certain things, but we were also trying to get back to where we were in the past. So we got some great additions and we're excited for that. Ultimately, it's to use some of these guys to be the number one defense in the league and that's always going to be the goal. So whatever we can do to utilize all the different talent that we have on this team to be the best and play as a team and to build the best chemistry that we got, that's what we're going to do. What stands out about this offense? Just early in the game, what stands out about these teams? Yeah, we're not used to going against the normal offense I have been the past three years.

2:30:23So it's been a lot more moving pieces. Definitely have to use your eyes pretty well because if not, then somebody's going to be open. But I like what they're doing. I'm very excited for it. I just know it's making our defense a little bit better because we're having to do different things, not just the normal offense we've been used to. Yeah, I was going to say just because every other team has some variations that they were going to miss. Does that kind of, do you think that kind of benefit you because you've seen that more than the first? I would say so. I mean, as the league has changed over time, I think they revert to certain offenses that do well in certain systems. I would say we're taking maybe a little bit pieces from other offense that we see to do well. So I like what we're doing. I mean, I don't know as much as some of these quarterbacks that we have on the team, some of the offensive players, but I just know it's tough to go against. I'm a lowest at number last year, but still one of the top two scoring defense. What do you guys really need to do to finish getting it after the quarterback?

2:31:25Yeah, I would just say place heavy emphasis in practice. It's always going to start in practice with getting after the quarterback, not touching him in practice, but making some good moves. And I would just say rush, rush more. I mean, there's so much that goes into it and it goes with the coverage. Everybody works together. I would say that we had, we had great numbers, but we do, we are trying to get that number up, but the ultimate goal is always going to be the ball. Getting the ball taken away, getting off the field, we're putting our offense out there on the field, and we're staying off. That means that we're doing a good job. And you're already asked about it from a competition standpoint, but from a collective standpoint, having you wins a mario, you're going to go to the field. What kind of a trio can do for a defense? When this guy's a limit with this group, I do believe we have one of the most talented linebacker core groups in the league. So just excited what we're going to be able to do out there on the field. I think we all compliment each other super well, bigger guys that are explosive. So I'm excited for it.

2:32:32It's really just our family versus their family. And we just got a person here and we got to win the games and get back to the net. The start line, the start line was saying that Carmellan ran in the really good leaders and we're going so far. For sure. What if they both didn't lead us for you and we have a young team? They've been leaders just in multiple ways, whether our column, we're in their in the film room together on the jugs. I'm asking them about this route, how I could run it better. I'm asking them how I run this route on this play just many different things. I feel like those guys, they're like big brothers and all that that has helped me. A valuable is that to have guys that are playing like football, but also been in college for a while. So I mean, you could ask them for various things about college life. How valuable is that? Real valuable for sure, because they're first round pit guys. So I feel like just being in a room with those guys. And if you're able to thrive with those guys, you know, some's going good for you.

2:33:33I had always had a good relationship with Tavion. He recruited me hard to come here. So I feel like we always talked and he came here and he's been doing this thing that I've all been doing their thing. Julian saying he's another Cali Kassel. I had a little relationship with him too. So good to see Julian Lincoln and Tavion all doing real good. I just really just everything. I feel like you can never be too perfect. And I feel like you just got to keep doing your job. So I said maybe just just showing up more and just doing my job to the T. Going against these corners of these TVs. How does that kind of lead you better? I had a five star corner DJ DJ Lee. He's at Alabama. So I always had good work with corners. So I feel like it's just a lot. I'm going against a lot of good guys now. Instead of just being one on one that practice with DJ. So it's real good for sure. Does it take more turns to play the slot?

2:34:35What do you mean by that? Because there's more stuff that I think is bigger injuries inside. You have to have a thing. You've got to be aware of it. But it doesn't make more courage to do that. I guess you can say that I feel like I just always play slot enough. I feel like that's what I've been better at. So I feel like I feel like it's just what I have to do to be on the spot. No matter who's in front of me. How big he is. How strong he is. I feel like if I got in the same way, I got to do it. I'm looking around. I remember my first day. I'm looking around. I'm looking at July. Crazy. And then I see Jeremiah crazy. I'm just looking around everybody. KJ came cranking off the bar. I'm okay. Like this is the real deal. How do you take that over that moment and then go from it? I really just take that and I just I just think of the challenge. I'm okay. Like we got all these attributes. They got all these things.

2:35:40But can they get past me though? Can they beat me though? So every day just working on that. Just getting better and better. Have you ever used the strong race, jumping, falling transfers? Yeah, that's my dog. We came in together and just like talking to each other about the process, especially when my coach riled up and I was like, you know, we're going to do you and me. And then we just stuck through it and then me and him now. I just talked to him every day. That's my bully and working on different things. Because he's at the left. I'm at the right. See things from different point of view. So it's been great. How is the transition going for you? I was going to be amazing. I feel every day get better and better. Going to get the best every day. So you have to be on your A game and going to just do like CJ. That's my play. Just getting better and better and transition just not an hour half away from home. So this has been pretty good. You started for games last period. So what are you kind of taking care of? No memory moves. No game. What do you think you learned? I think like for my role, I think I did just enough.

2:36:44Like as a person I am now. If I was a person, I feel like I would have been laid better. But just going into that role, helping that's helping Minnesota. Do we got to do? I feel like I did just enough. But there's always I've always been. Where did you see? Pass pro and my first steps. Working on those things. I had the lift and the power. I just I was all over the place. And just every I feel like every game I was understanding on how the game worked and how to attack how to be passive. How to work together as an online unit not just be by myself. You mentioned the first step. What? What about that first step? Really just making sure I feel powerful out of my sense. That was the one big thing I had to work on. And especially at my last school working on my stands. Making sure I can push off and like gain ground. And I felt like sometimes I wasn't doing that. Even mentioned that he had to lose 30 pounds.

2:37:45And they got here. Did you have to change from your body at all? Definitely. I was three 20 coming in and I played at three 20. I feel great. And then they told me they want to be go down to three 15. And I was like, nah, I want to do that. I got three 15. I started running. I started. They started putting me on the meal plan. They started doing all this. I'm, oh, I see the vision. I was like, yeah, I definitely chose for my body. My arm is definitely getting bigger. The weight room. It's going to amazing. I'm growing every day. It's hard every day. But I love it though. Like I'm getting work after practice after the weight room. I could but I can see the results and seeing the games. What is it like you leave a place you know you're probably breaking some people's hearts back there. It's described what it's like to make a move like this. Basically the midst of a college career. What were you seeking for the evening? It was definitely a big move. What was I seeking? Just, just a development with knowing I can,

2:38:52I wanted to go and get some of the best dudes every day and coming here I'll be able to do that. Just a training program in the culture here and it's summer. Minnesota. So it was definitely like a easy merge. You had said you were, but you hadn't really thought about Ohio State being an option. When the hotel house is quickly the sort of the merge is what do you remember about just remember? I remember coach Fry call me when I hit the portal. He was one of the couple first people to hit me up. I was going to, I was going to go home anyways because I was going to go to my mom house because I fasted at. When I hit the portal and make sure I was making the right decision and I was going to go home with my family and just talk about it. And I was like, you're already an hour and a half away. So you might as well just see what's up up there. They show an interest and I was like, you know, I'm not sure. You mentioned the transition from Fry to Tyler Bowen just what's been like playing for both Bowen so far. I don't really know too much about coach Fry, you know, just a little bit, but what I was in here I definitely saw like dudes that we developed.

2:39:57You can see it on tape, not necessarily like really see that practice. But with coach Bowen every day just improving and he's just always telling me things. I don't even notice that I need to work on especially with coach Johnson and coach Dickey. Having no story in the room is probably the best thing ever for you. I guess I'm great additions and we're excited for that. Ultimately it's to use some of these guys to be the number one defense in the league and that's always going to be the goal. So whatever we can do to utilize all the different talent that we have on this team to be the best and play as a team and to build the best chemistry that we got. That's what we're going to do. What's the end of the game? Yeah, we're not used to going against the normal offense I have been the past three years. It's been a lot more moving pieces. I definitely have to use your eyes pretty well because if not then somebody's going to be open.

2:40:59But I like what they're doing. I'm very excited for it. I just know it's making our defense a little bit better because we're having to do different things. Not just the normal offense we've been used to. I was going to say just because every other team has some variations of their own indices. Do you think that'll kind of benefit you because you've seen that more than the first two weeks? I would say so. I mean as the league has changed over time, I think they revert to certain offenses that do well in certain systems. I would say we're taking maybe a little bit pieces from other offense that we see to do well. I like what we're doing. I don't know as much as some of these quarterbacks that we have on the team. Some of the offensive players but I just know it's tough to go against. I'm lowest at number last year but still one of the top teams in school in defense. What do you guys really need to do to finish after the quarterback? Yeah, I would just say place heavy emphasis in practice. It's always going to start in practice with getting after the quarterback, not touching him in practice,

2:42:03but making some good moves. I would just say rush more. I mean there's so much that goes into it and goes with the coverage. Everybody works together. I would say that we had great numbers but we are trying to get that number up. But the ultimate goal is always going to be the ball. Getting the ball taken away, getting off the field. We're putting our offense out there on the field and we're staying off. That means that we're doing a good job. You've already asked about it for my competition standpoint. What's my electric standpoint? Heaven knew when's the mark and we're going to be on the field. What kind of a tree-o can I do for a defense? The sky's the limit with this group. I do believe we have one of the most talented linebacker core groups in the league. Just excited what we're going to be able to do out there on the field. I think we all compliment each other super well. Bigger guys that are explosive. I'm excited for it. The bar was going to be up in the air. That's why I think for me, just starting out, I took it something that was kind of important to me.

2:43:07Whoever was, everyone competing for that spot, I wanted to create a bond with them. Because I feel like a tackle guard bond is important in terms of communication understanding. Because again, a left tackle is only as good as a guard is and vice versa. I feel like I've done a good enough job so far of starting to develop that relationship with each potential guy. So that way as a spot is getting, as people start to compete for that spot, again, I feel like I should be able to pop in with whoever. And we should continue to keep the standard of the standard if that makes sense. That's my mindset. First, there's a guy competing for a spot and I've never spent any time with him. I won all one during the summer and just taking reps before camp. Hey, what's coming to facility? Let's do XYZ. Let's talk about this tape XYZ. Then they come in and then now there's no kind of flow. So now I'm not really seeing how we're going to fit together.

2:44:07But I want to fit with as many people at a left guard as possible that way when the decision has been made. There's no new startup process. I got to start over my process with this guy. It's kind of already been flown. That makes sense. I think that the mindset for me has always has been that when I win my one on one, the ball goes down the field. You know what I mean? I think that's what I'm most excited about just being a left tackle is that, especially with the protections that are a little bit. A longer plays where the left tackle tends to be one on one or the plays I tend to love the most because kind of halfway through the play, you're lacking them up and you just know that he can't go anywhere. You start to smile a little bit. You're like, oh, dude, ball's gone. You know what I mean? Ball's gone and it's going to be a touchdown. It's going to be a huge gain.

2:45:09So I think for me that's kind of the mindset you have to have at the left tackle spot. As soon as I win my rep, we're going down the field. So that's just the mindset I have in terms of how well I have to prepare. So the mindset where there are people that want to get there. Honestly, I'll say that mindset kind of came from college. Again, obviously I played with a lot of great guys in college. You know, I'm glad we have all of those guys here. You know what I mean? To throw the ball to as well just because against one of those things. Like with CJ, you just, again, a left tackle, my mindset was just, well, that's CJ just do his thing. And that's my thing. I want Kyle ready to be able to do his thing. Don't worry about whoever's over here, just do your thing. You're here and just throw it to Marvin. And we'll be good. You know what I mean? So that's something excited about. And I think all that starts because of what we do on the line. So when I think just not just myself, but the entire room takes pride in.

2:46:10Hey, like when we do our job upfront, that's where everything else goes. So let these guys we have with the ball in their hands do all that magic. We just got to do our job just to entertain it when you're one on one. You know, just playing that that spot means something special just because of the history of that position. And you know, just of all the greats that have played left tackle. I mean, do you ever think about just the past and the, you know, the people, the players before you who were in that spot and did great things? Yeah, I mean, again, I feel like just from just as a young guy in a game, I of course try to, I like to watch the, the greats the game. I like to watch guys like a weight worth, of course, you know, a really Anderson, you know, he played on the right side. But again, I think continuing to watch the greats that played the game just can take the dominate for those guys. For me, be able to talk to them again to be able to learn from their story and their journey and how they developed.

2:47:11Of course, I understand I want to create a, I want my game to be able to be like theirs in a way to where it's talked about. In a way of like, that's a guy you need to watch just to watch with, you know, the fight that you played with, the finish that you played with, the technique you played with, because those guys played almost 20 years, you know what I mean. So, and again, I think that's something when you watch the guys, though, the legendary guys come before. Yeah, you know, they're strong and they're tough guys, but, you know, I don't know, but when you're like 36, 37 years old, you probably not that strong. Not as strong as you used to, but that technique and just the skill set, that's something that I admire. You mentioned earlier about the guys going out to UCLA and kind of getting out of the heat. I'm curious, when you're working out here, do you do anything outside or do you avoid it altogether right now? I don't know, I'm always outside. I'm always outside. I don't mind the heat. I love the heat. And honestly, for me, it helps. I'm off like 30, 20, so I kind of warm up quickly.

2:48:12So it's kind of nice, my warm up. I don't have to be doing like 30 minute warm up. You know, you kind of just be outside long enough, collect this and your joints are on go. So I actually, I like it a lot. Going back to the players that have been in the league for a while, Calvin Beachham is one of those guys that's been in the league for a decade plus. What have you been able to learn from him? I think, again, just learning how to be a pro in terms of certain things, like for example, I'm a guy that when I like to train by myself, I just take a thousand reps of a set, a thousand reps of a reach block. I'm a rep, rep, rep, rep, and type, I've done a hundred times in a row perfect. And some of that beach is like talking about in terms of being a pro. I thought to me, that's me being a pro is a young guy. I think I've a lot of reps in my body. So I'm going to take a lot of reps and preparation. But Beach is a guy where it's like, it's not about necessarily the quantity in terms of it's really through the quality. But even more so, he's like, you know, you're off season, you don't got to be doing something like this every single day.

2:49:16But when you do it like from your first rep, even your first rep is not like you're taking this rep, oh, it wasn't good. It's going to be better in the second one, like each rep, even when you're by yourself is just kind of, I guess a mindset, I just give yourself 15 reps instead of doing 60 reps. And I sounds like a huge difference, but to me, I don't mind taking 60 reps from by myself. And there's nobody that's waiting around on me. And I'm by myself, I can take my time and I'll do that, but just being like, I'm going to do 15 perfect reps. And I'm just going to slow down and take all my time, stuff like that. That way your body, I way you're not, you're not, you're not doing too much before camp, you know. Many of the guys that left guard in the mix were here last year, except for Evan. How does that relationship develop throughout the year on season? Yeah, I mean, so honestly, that's my guy. We like to compete, we've been competing in the weight room since day one in terms of just like what we consider like athletic competitions.

2:50:18So like even in the weight room, I'm at the very end of the week when we're done lifting, I'll talk to Evan, I'll be at an Irish stand, it will just do some sort of competition, whether it's grip or whether it's jump or where it's pull ups or something. And I don't let him wave until I beat him in these two things. Like so if we do, if we do a jump thing and like I always thought was the best kind of, I had the most height when I jumped out of a line, I could dominate anybody and that, but he beat me in that surprising size. I know what happened on the bike. And then we did this bike thing, I beat him on a bike, and now we don't pull up. So I beat him on a personal kid, now we can leave. But we just have that in words, just always competing. And then again, obviously he wasn't on the team with us last year, but I think what he brings at the table with being a vet is that he's like a plug and play guy. He knows, he's been in no scenarios before. He's played with guys like Penae when he was with Detroit. So obviously just being able to talk to him and how this is how it was when I was setting with Penae, this is how it was.

2:51:20I was saying to see all these are the different things that I can do that made some things like in your game how you set. And I'll talk to him about what I like to do in certain scenarios and how his set can sort of match that. Does that make sense? So I think he adds a lot. What's the longest you've stayed after until you beat him? To the point where a strength coach is like, you guys got to go. You guys should go. We're not trying to break any rules around here. But it's just me and him just going, and he loves it. So even us starting to do that, we started to get other guys in the O line that tried to hop in on our competition for fun. But only matters would be Evan. I'm just beating you. So it was fun. I couldn't pass up an opportunity to try and bump that up and go somewhere up to beat her.

2:52:30I was really just watching it because I mean we played the very last time this past year on that. I was watching games more of a span. But yeah, the things that Coach Day does in his offense and Coach O'Brien does, I feel like really fit my type of player. I was coming from a case day with a very heavy offense, especially for that one. Which I was very happy to do and didn't mind doing it all. I'm excited here to where I feel like it's more of a, you know, where I can be that pocket passer and also use my legs when I need to.

2:53:30But I feel like my strength is doing my own. But I also feel like I can do really good things. Obviously being a quarterback, you need to make those plays. How much do you afford to do? If you think that's your hobby, you can have a good time. How much do you have to do with your dreams? Well, I think you guys probably need to be able to grab that back. Oh, it's had a huge impact on it. I love my guys at case day and I have nothing bad to say about them. I mean, the talent here is unbelievable. Just being around the guys. And the thing that's impressed me the most about, especially the receiver room, is how driven, how much they want to work. I don't have to go out there and beg these guys to go catch. And they're already out here catching on the jugs when I come out the truck. They're incredibly hardworking just all across the room. We got dudes like Carnell and Brandon Ernest and obviously Mecca and all those guys.

2:54:35I mean, that's just the, that's just the ice cream. There's so much talent in that room. Being able to throw to guys like that makes my job a lot easier. First of all, the bread or the jerryboss. Dude, he's a dude, man. I haven't gotten to talk to him that much yet. Because we've been in different groups, letting him job. But man, he's a specimen. I mean, that dude is a freak show. He comes to physical. I mean, he is, I'm excited to see him on the field and invite him. He'll be fine. I feel like the resounding thing that I heard from, from these NFL guys and from people around the league was needy flammable. And we need to see more high level flight. And I feel like, you know, I've played a lot of football in my time at the A-Cade. But, you know, I only had one year where I was really the true starter. And where I played, you know, the whole year.

2:55:36The most part I was a backup filling in. And I felt like, you know, there's a bunch of statistics and things that they look at. You know, I was on the very lowest end of like, you know, the amount of yards that you're supposed to throw for. You know, you look at the success stories versus the failure stories. And there was so many signs of a point in becoming back. And really in my heart, and that was at the end of the day. I mean, it was up to me, it was my gut. And I felt like I just wasn't ready to leave college yet. I go for a warm. I want to go to a competition. I'm really, really happy to be here. I'm really happy to be here. I'm really happy to be here. Absolutely. And I mean, the biggest thing was I felt like I could come and be here to win the national championship. And that above anything else was one of the most important things. I felt like I just had more I wanted to accomplish my college. And I wasn't feeling yet. And that was, I think, what really drew me here.

2:56:36And then, obviously, you know, getting to the next level and, you know, playing in an offense like this, I think is really going to prepare me for that next level and give me the best shot. And that's all I just really shoulder on the cake, you know, for me. You're not going to do it on the spot. I'm going to do that. I'm going to have it at the table. I mean, we definitely talked about it. We're all here to compete and we're all here to, you know, help the fuck out of me. That's all we're here for. And that was, you know, that was made evident when I came on my visit. And, you know, the thing that I'm the most fired up about is how good the dudes in the DreamArc and how good they've been to me. You know, I, they could have, you know, believed me. I've been in a situation where we brought in an older trans again. They could have been, you know, mad and not caught me and not helped me out.

2:57:36But I mean, Devon and Lincoln, the guys that have been around, they've, they've really helped us a lot, especially us, us three new guys. And, you know, I know I'm older and I've done things, but still just learning a new system, learning, you know, how we do things, and how we, you know, go about our busy day. Just everything's a little different. So I'm so thankful for those guys that they've just, I mean, they've helped me so much, just getting, getting accustomed to, you know, being in this building. What do you get offered by them here? Really good dudes, really good kids, and really talented too. I mean, they can both spin the ball really well. You know, they're young and they, you know, they know they got a lot to learn and so do I. You know, I'm right there helping, you know, I think we're all trying to learn this together, you know, focus over on a little bit and we're, we're hitting the ground running back. You know, it's exciting. Those two guys there are especially, especially in the Halo. What do you want to do for a guy who has a ride with him? You didn't, you didn't, you had the possibility to go to the Hansevo,

2:58:38but you know, it's hard to say. I would probably say the draft would have been mine. You know, I was, I was talking to some other schools, you know, Miami and, and USC were in there in the mix. But it was really, I would say here in the draft at the end of it. You know, there was a lot of different things at Wayne and it was a long, hard process, but yeah, I would say, I mean, that was probably the most like, the first time you talked to about the weighting rack in the console. How did the calisthenics of the ball come back and extend the main console? I mean, nothing, nothing crazy. You know, it was just, I appreciate that. I'm not a fighter fan. Who really? Yeah, I appreciate it. Yeah, there you go, a little sidetrack, but, uh, no, I, what was the question again?

2:59:40I'm sorry. Spider-Contwery with a... Yeah. Yeah, no, it was, I mean, it wasn't really anything crazy, I would say. You know, I just, you know, nothing really changed. It was really kind of, you know, they were kind of holding me off a little bit until after that game just in fairness. You know, I was, I was patient and, and, and, and, and, you know, it all, it all worked out. Did Coach Day live on now? No, he just kind of makes a pledge. It's hard to tell. I don't really know. It was a whirlwind of a process. You know, I, I started hearing initially they might be interested, but I hadn't really heard anything directly. And then, you know, really getting in, like, I really started to feel that interest. Did Coach Day let you know there's a change coming in court later?

3:00:42A little bit. Yeah, I, I kind of figured that. I didn't know for sure, but he kind of hinted at it. And, you know, he, his point was, you know, it's, it's in the best interest of him and the team. I was all in. You know, I completely understood, you know, the decision and why he did it. Your conversation with Coach Day, what was this, like, event took out about years being, during other situations, in the audience, in the process, probably? Yeah, I mean, there were a lot of, a lot of things that were said, you know, a lot of, a lot of things that, you know, were attractive to me about this offense and about what he kind of thought about my name and how he thought he did, you know, elevate me to where I wanted to, where I wanted to be. And, you know, I feel like one of the biggest things was how, how, how style the offense is. And, you know, a lot of these other schools that I was looking at, you know, maybe these air raid type schools. I mean, they got great offenses and, you know, I could put up a lot of numbers, but I don't know how much that was developed.

3:01:42And, you know, playing in a system that Coach O'Brien, I'm using the paper, I know how much. How much better can you prepare for the NFL than with somebody who's coached at a head coach level and an important head level at the NFL? You know, it's, there's just all the things pointed to it. You know, when it comes to safe, important things or that, I mean, I love the structure of the field. And, you know, it's not a matter of the first, the first, the first, the first, the first, the second, the first. And, you know, obviously, for the first, the season, the first, the first, the first, the season. Just, how do you say ready and prepare to get up, getting ready? I can say ready and prepare to come up with a happy, great, big moment that is virtually the back of the trophy that started to line in. Prepare it in the training on the count. Yeah, I know I took a couple of days off after the National Championship and then shoot right after that.

3:02:45I'm writing sample Florida and I'm right to it. And so, yeah, I think where I trained, I trained at YoMurf Performance. I think it's called the House of Athlete or the Compound now. They did a good job, man. They're just bringing us in and the way they went about training us, man. They did a really good job. And you know what, you did? The Bucking Nears. No, I haven't. We think it's a city champion. Tampa, Tampa, nice. This is a nice city, man. Really nice. The 40, the broad and the vert. You've been on races in awesome locker. Do you speak to your mentality of when you've got a linebacker or the jab, and you're thinking you're ready to swear a ball? Yeah. Yeah, no, man. It's really all about technique and then it's about mindset as well. And so, I say, you know, it's for the love of my brother. It's for the love of Will Howard. It's for the love of the receivers who I got on the perimeter. Just making sure, you know, first of all, my quarterback doesn't get sacked. And I tell Will, I think it was before the first game.

3:03:46I was like, I got your brother. It's, I said, man, I'm not going to let you get hit. You know, and so I don't know if I gave up a sack. I'm not sure that, but I know if I did, I haven't given up too many. And so, man, it's for the love of my brother's, though, man, making sure the ball get in their hands, you know, the guys on the outside and making sure they get fed. You had to hit the practice field later today. What is something you've been working on right now? In my game. You can't really work on this, you know, in all season, I feel like it's more so. You know, you got to put the pads on. You got to go through some inside run, you know, maybe. It's really just continuing to run through tackles. And so that's, I feel like that's one of the areas in my game. You know, I want to continue to get better at it. I feel like I did a good job of that in my senior year. And so I just want to continue to build on that. Yes, I did. Yes, I did. I didn't want to look like a lot of people are out there. You get back in nursing and be mental with your warm hands. I did meet with New Orleans as well.

3:04:46I never got that comparison. Actually, I know I have a Camera shoe. Yeah, man, I have a Camera great, great back, man. Just what he does and those 101 matchups, he's dangerous, man. And he's so smooth. He's so smooth as well. I'm not going to lie. He's smooth. So the mid-jump flavor of this play, you know, it's just so, you know, you can see it. Yeah. Inside zone from stack, being able to hit that thing downhill. And I'll say the next one is probably just an option out of the backfield. You know, a man and man coverage. You're getting on that line backer. And so. Yeah. I say to man, the biggest thing is the way that he carries himself, man. And the way that man, he approaches the game. He comes in with the mindset, you know, he's going to work every single week. You know, every practice, you know, he's working hard, you know, even shooting. I don't know. Every good, I mean, he had a, every game was a good game for him, man. And so. But still, man, he always has the mentality to mindset that, you know, he's going to come in each and every day.

3:05:49He's going to continue to work and get better, man. So he's definitely, man. He's going to be a special player, man. He really is. Man, a lot of ups and downs, man. It's just how you respond to adversity. And I feel like that's something that God has definitely helped me to do better. There's just, I'm not have something to lean on now. You know, I remember before I met him, going through those adversity, I had nothing to run to. You can run to people, but they still can't. It's not too much, they can't truly help you. You know, I feel like, I feel like the only person that can truly help you is your relationship with Jesus Christ. And so being able to lean on him, he gives you, in those moments, where it's tough, you know, where it's low. And when you're behind the scenes and you're going through things that people don't know about, he gives you that peace and comfort. You know, even in those moments, man,

3:06:52where it's so hard that you can't explain, it's like, man, I'm going through this, but like, how am I still feel with this internal joy? You know, how do I have so much peace in this situation? And so that's something that only Jesus Christ can give you. And so... You know, the back goes first. Peterson Power and Judgment, I'm just going to explain what that was. Which aspect did you do those other individuals that you run to, and what came from being around power and... And power? Um... Man, those guys have such a great mentality man. I just really love their mentality, especially Q as well. You know, I talked about Will Howard, his leadership, but Quinshaw mentality man. Um... That boy just, yeah, that boy just gifted, you know. You see, you know, sometimes he put in a situation where he looked like, you know, he should have a negative five yards. And then as soon as you know it, you know, he that running through somebody, still farming somebody, and she would just gain a 10. And so... You some of the things that he does, he just realizes two different guys. Yeah. Um... Shoot, I think...

3:07:54Yeah, man, I think it's just like... He's just gifted, man, to be honest. He's just gifted, you know, he's a big back, you know, he's strong, and so, um... You know, he's able to do those things. And so, um... Yeah, man, it's definitely... You know, I look at his game, and I want to, you know, at the same time, I want to learn from Quinshaw. You know, I want to look at his game, and it's like, man, where can I get better at as well? You know, that's the type of player I am. I'm always looking to get better, man. I'm always looking to grow as a player. Julian Sand, oh yeah, he's gonna be a great back. He's gonna be a great quarterback, man. He's so, so accurate, and so, um... He's definitely, man, I know Coach Dez is definitely going to get him right, just, you know, um, container grow as a leader, container grow as a player, and so he's gonna be really good for high state. Thanks, guys. I was just trying to get the service. Uh... He's, I know just the quarterback position, um... I feel like, you know, the quarterbacks in the past, they've, they've definitely been vocal, and so I feel like that's something that they're definitely going to, um, ask Julian Sand as well, is to be that vocal leader, and lead, um, and lead the offense and lead the steam. Thanks, guys. Thanks, guys.

3:08:54Well, the best one for you. Shoot, man, he has, he has a build like JK Dobbins, and, um... I kind of see them, you know, similar, similarities in their game as well, and I know JK Dobbins, he was a great running back. Um, I feel like he's not talked about his none. Um, a lot, but man, his career here, you watch his highlights is great. I remember, um, before I recruit, before I committee here, I remember watching JK Dobbins highlights, like, every, every, um, one of his years here, like, four or five times. And so, man, he was such a great back. And, um, I feel like, you know, when I see JK Dobbins, when I see, um, James people, I see similarities to both of their games, I feel like they play the same. And so... Appreciate you all, y'all. You're all right. You can get back. This...

3:11:18Did you have that many questions in your paper and tranquLa now? Yeah. It's been a while for you to ask me, why would you shut up in the ultimate feeling for your future? You have a lot of questions in your paper and tavern sizes for it. And i was just talking to you all, I need to understand how it feels to see United States. We do it every day because of how many defendants within the United States in the United States. I'm, um, its my favorite photo, or currently, some also on print as a kid at the news box. Uh... You know what guess, man? I have talked to the chiefs. Yes. It was great conversations with me and these guys are mean to have a lot of good, de-line talent there. So having guys there, I mean they feel like I could fit in very well and be able to have guys pull me in and really help me out and allow the Indian to really get in their fist system and fit in there and be a good player there. Yeah, you talked about the match in K&A with a lot of good talent. Oh yeah, of course, Jones is mean that. That guy's amazing. Be able to explode the way he did in the past few years, man. He's great. That guy is practically unblockable. So we're watching him a little bit. I mean, the way he uses his hands, I mean, he doesn't allow people to touch him.

3:12:20Yeah. So I always hear a favorite game or memory involvement in this past season? Definitely win the national championship. I mean, there's no better feeling than that to be able to go out there. I mean, when a whole bunch of guys you grew up with for the past five years and seeing us really pull through out there, hitting a couple of bumps in the road and being able to really exert ourselves and really make it all the way to the national championship when it all, man. It's a great feeling. Do you like the sun in there? What's it feel like? Oh, yeah. Since being off the team now, definitely sunken now that we really won the national championship. It's going to sink any more. We'll be able to see the rings that we got. We can get here in probably in the next month. So yeah. It's all like a, what's it like seeing Jay-Z and JT in draft gifts so close? Like they have to see the fear of waiting in here and what does that mean? I mean, it's nice. I mean, especially it means to have the entire defense line here at the combat. I mean, it's amazing. I mean, it's not too many times you get not too many teams to be able to have that. I mean, it just shows the elite level that we have and that they have been at our house state and it just shows how great we are and how great we can be. It felt like a whirlwind going from the play to champion game amongst the guys in the air here.

3:13:21Oh, yeah. I mean, it feels like I'm kind of still playing for a house date, but it's like I'm not playing anymore. So it's kind of weird trying to get to Justin point down, stepping into a new chapter of my life. So just being relaxed, calm, and being just walking there with me and myself. Are you planning to work out tomorrow? Oh, yeah. I'll be doing the drills. That's about it. How much time have you had? How much time have you taken off yourself? We had a week, a week after the game and then after that, I'm fluent straight to California with Roger Trainer. You mentioned it. It feels like you're still playing for a house date. When you've been there for five years, how hard is it to pull away from that and not be part of it? Yeah, it was definitely hard the first couple of weeks. I mean, trying to, it was definitely a slower pace. And being in a house state, everything was up temple, everything was hard work. I mean, you're doing group activities all the time. It's hard to be able to adjust to be more of a calm setting. I mean, you're doing a lot of things on your own when you get in a NFL. It's not you're not guided anywhere. So you got to be able to adjust to that. That's probably the biggest thing. How old do you feel like that when you're in a good, nice level?

3:14:21I'm 10th over. I like to say that house date. And it's the best of preparing. I mean, you can see a player after a player going to the NFL. I mean, it's just one of the best players because it's the way a house date and the system that they had. I mean, they did things in an excellent way to prepare you for the league. And this is why I'm grateful to be able to go to that school. I think that's why I'm excited about the field. I'm not going to lie down next to the next team. It's going to be a part of the year. Yeah, that's kind of sad. Obviously, I wish we could have even just one of them be with me and make it even a better experience being there. I mean, a lot of questions they like to ask is like, who would you bring with you? I mean, of course, is here any one of my D-Liamans bringing those guys with me. So it's definitely going to be different. But I mean, there's a lot of great talent on these teams, a lot of great D-Liamans in there. So I love to learn from other people, learn from them and be able to grow from them. Do you and Jack tell, uh, Sorrento and Sonny, they have to carry a picker in the two-door top? Oh, yeah, of course. I mean, I like to sell the time, man. The Columbus being brings to a house statement as the best player. So being there and being still representing Pickerton, I mean, we got a lot of good guys

3:15:25still in Pickerton. And that's still in high school to get the gift there. So them representing is just great. What we were talking about, uh, the Sunny being a potential for the walk-over and the San Bernardino and the San Bernardino, the D-Liamans, and the D-Liamans. And being a potential for the team. Where have you seen Sonny kind of grow as a leader and what do you think about the new role that you're getting as leadership? Oh, yeah. I think that just the leadership off the field made it so much better. I mean, from a guy who started off as a safety, moving the linebacker, I mean, it was a natural adjustment for him. I mean, he made no complaints to none of that. I mean, he just came in and worked and kind of like me. We just worked as hard as he could every single day. Just learned to play a book. I mean, you can see the leadership on the field. When he's out there calling the plays with confidence and being out there, it's important that the team rally behind him. You see him very much at the post on the last day of the year. It's interesting. I mean, I have no comments on it. I want nothing but the best for him, but being at the Penn State, so I mean, it's not for the best for him. Who do you see emerging as a leader on that team? I think that's the one I see. I think it's the only one. Kiyah Jackson, I feel like this role, I mean, I've talked to him. He definitely wants to step up. You stepping up this year. I mean, he's played a good amount of time last year.

3:16:27I feel like him being able to go out there and really step up and be a leader for the team. That's something you can do, especially with the talent that you ask. What are you up to, Sheryl? What do you got pads on, stuff like that, being a special interior guy. You really don't get to see me run. So being able to go out there and really run, see my movement, see my men and my ability to move around. Definitely surprising a couple coaches. Who was the most pivotal moment at the season? Who you guys? As hard as it is to say, being a loose team up north. That was kind of like the pivotal role that really hit the whole team in the face. And allowed us to really kick the fire underneath and some people to play with our best abilities. That we knew we had since the beginning of the season. And much of it hurts to lose. I mean, it kind of set the tone for the rest of the team and you see how we dominated teams in the playoffs. So people have talked about that being. Did your opinion of Friday change or how did it change after that being knowing that he's the coach sitting there taking the good run? See that? Yeah, I mean, I didn't change at all. That's all it should be.

3:17:27Being a coach there, I mean, he's up front and he's going to tell you everything. He takes criticism and that's just something that being a man to be able to drop your ego and take criticism. That makes him even better coach. Not a lot of coaches can do that. It makes him better that he's here for his team. He's not just trying to be the head coach. He wants to be for his team. So I appreciate him for that. That's how you want to be a team. What you're doing to come to the same level. How much does that snow bomb you? Is that not too long? Of course. I mean, the whole goal is going to the house that he wouldn't be the team of North. Especially with my brother, he's never lost to him. So it's kind of like a pride and rights at the dinner table. But I mean, every day you want a national championship. So I'm not getting to carry on for rest of my life. You mentioned being able to surprise and be able to feel like you're a little bit overlooked just because of how much you've had around you last day. We had a lot of good guys. I mean, that's what comes to being on a holiday. I mean, you got to tell them everywhere. So I mean, just being able to just be myself and just be able to show people who I am. And that's what I'm here for. So I'm just going to do everything impossible to be able to prove to the people that support me.

3:18:29Right? Where do you see or something? Are you going to stick it? No. You want to be a free tech? Like, where do you think you put your foot back? I want to be versatile. I want to be like, I can play a little bit of a free tech play nose guard anywhere on the inside. I feel like I can play maybe even a little outside. Who knows? So just being a big versatile. I feel like playing on a high-level state. We were allowed to move around a little bit and allowed me to show my talent. So being able to be versatile and play anywhere allows me to be a better player in the league. You mentioned getting out of it. What are people going to see for this year? They're going to see it more developed player. I mean, I feel like this year is kind of the set and stone of him being able to take over the role of being a defense in out of a high-level state. So I feel like he has all the talents, all the skillset to be able to go out there and be one of the best deans to come out of high-level state. So it's up to him to be able to just hone in on a leadership and be able to be the best player he can and lead others to be just like him. What do you feel like you're the best at basketball? You're going to run for a whole time. I'm obviously just being able to shut down the run. I mean, I feel like I pride myself in my run game and not being blocked by a single person.

3:19:32So I'll just be able to go in there and be able to be a elite run stopper. But also be able to go on on third down as well and be able to show my past rush. I mean, go out there and do the best I can. So I didn't really get to do what I always said. How much do you feel like you've driven with a past rusher out of high-level state? And where do you feel like you've been so grown up? Yeah, I mean, I feel like power is always my go-to of past rusher. And I feel like it worked. We didn't really get to rush as much at the high-level state. But at times I did get to rush it's showed. I mean, my skillset allowed me to move guys out the way and make sacks. I mean, it's something good. I mean, I feel like obviously you always need something to work on a past rusher. It's different moves that come off of it. Like finesse moves, any type of chop and stuff like that. Just to work on those and finishing sacks or something like a work on. What do you think of the biggest lessons you'll take from Larry Johnson with you to B.O.P. Honestly, just focus on little things. I mean, technique is critical when it comes to defeating a block or getting blocked. So I mean, just honing on those small techniques to always make it sure that I'm critiquing myself in the best way possible and not getting complacent. I don't think we got really other interior guys who are taking this home on.

3:20:34We got guys like Andrew in there, Jason Moore, Ty Worm alone. I mean, the younger freshmen in there, I feel like everybody can step up. I mean, those are guys that have played a little bit last year. I feel like having every position vacant, I mean, allows for competition. So being able to, for those guys to step up and really prove themselves that they can play at a elite level is going to be something I'm looking forward to see. I want for you to leave that room in a way that they are prepared to step up. It's super important. I mean, I feel like that was our whole goal as leaders to be able to just elevate the younger guys and allow them. So when we leave that, they can carry the torch. So we're like to say, so everybody moves up from back seats to the front seats. So I feel like we're giving the possibility to be able to move up to the front seats and be ready for every challenge that's thrown at them. I think JT said there would be another 15 block eyes here next year. So you're prediction on a number? I have no idea. I mean, I think there will be a lot of guys. I mean, we like a lot of good talent, a lot of young guys. I mean, who knows? What do you think it would mean for this group of guys that's here to retire, break the record of one school,

3:21:38who didn't draft it in a draft? Yeah, it would mean a lot, honestly. I mean, these guys work hard. I mean, being in a hallstead, you got a lot of great guys there. I mean, guys we showed and our film shows, man. I mean, this is probably one of the more complete teams that we had in college football. So I feel like the Scouts understand me and coach is understanding how good are guys we have. Not only do we have good on the field, man, great character guys, man. How good is something to talk about? He was great, man. I mean, being able to come from Bama and build a jump on a hallstead, I mean, he felt like you played on for him the whole time. I mean, this guy was a great guy, not only off the field, but on the field as well. He was very technical-sounding, man. He had a great technique, because it's hard to get around him in practice. I mean, it definitely showed in the game, so he's a great guy. I appreciate him. What's the rest guys here with the longer season potentially? Yeah, we play it about here. I mean, we see how goals by time we get in the camp,

3:22:38but obviously he's earning his stripes. So, you know, when you earn your stripes, you know, the hard job to create an opportunity for you. You know, we have to see how it goes with all the other stuff. We get closer to the season, and we're getting the game plan stuff, but he's doing a great job, and he's taking a great step forward. Ten more years ago, the way that you've been building the room, or the way he kind of established your room now, it seems like it's been, like, son of pieces, kind of relationships, and kind of building bonds. I'm curious, is that something that you came in, with the, like, a couple of years ago, with the intention of feeling, or is that something that you're like, that's kind of been cultivated over the course of your time as a position coach here, like the guy who's been there for a while, and I've been doing that for a long time, is all of our relationship. If you develop real relationship, and you're authentic in your communication, and you have honest feedback, and you have, you know, direct teaching, the guys that have value and character, and they appreciate that stuff, they're embraced that. So, but they have to know you care, and you have to know that it's real, and they have to know that you're really concerned about there, where it being as a young man, and when you get close to him, it's been a lot of time with him off the field,

3:23:39and you could coach him hard, and you can, and you can, you can, say, truthful things to him, and then embrace it, and you can have real conversation, because you know, the only goal is to help him get better as a young man. As you see, the computers go, and those are told, is that the, the receiver room is so far ahead of the portal, is going to kind of skew that evaluation sometimes. How's that dynamic change in these two years? As the scoop's gotten older, and you've been bad at even more talent. Yeah, it's done balanced up a little bit now. That goes with great competition. We have the, we go against the best receivers in college football. So that helps escalate your growth process, because if you don't figure it out real fast, you're getting embarrassed. So that competition, but what happened with that, I guys start competing, I guys start growing, I guys got better, and now it's even up a little bit, so where you get really good work at practice today. You know what I mean? So as competitive, it's fun. Those guys both on both sides of all care about each other, so it's great competition, and they all are real close. So you know what I mean? It's that stuff that gets us better, that will prepare us for Saturday. I asked Denzel, that same idea,

3:24:41and he said, well, like, first day of practice, actually, the receivers kind of got them, because I didn't kind of, but they could make them fall, maybe, if you're this, but this is not the end of it. No, it's just, it's gonna competitive, man. They got the best group in the country, that you're going against every day. So you have to bring it every day, you know what I mean? So we got a great quarterback room, we got a great receiver room, the running backs are really good, so when you out there going against them, it's deep. So you have to be ready for it, and obviously, man, we're seeing a lot of good stuff with what stay in Coach Kelly doing over there, and so it prepares you a lot, and it helps us grow. So you know, why are you in play kind of an satcheg for green victory? Is that? It's your green, or a wide receiver room kind of, like a part of your green pitch. Like, these are the guys you get to play against. Yeah, all that's, because you know, that's where you get better, our shop is our. So, you know, you get to see that every day of practice, that helps you grow. It's no better thing to go against every day than the seed at on a daily basis. I'm also near room massage drawer, if you're looking at to play that next spot.

3:25:41We just moving a lot of guys around. We watch our practice, we have a lot of guys in there right now. You know, we pop out, there are four different guys in there, obviously, Lorenzo's in there, Germaine's in there, Caleb. Miles, we have about four or five guys moving around. Right now, we just try things out in spring ball. See what it fit, you know, see what things work together. So, it's gonna probably be some more guys in there. You know, we move it around to try to just get the right fit throughout the N and C. How it goes by time, we get ready to start the season. What's your job about Calvin? He can run any strong, you know what I mean? He's fast, very serious about his business. He's big, he's 200 pounds, he can run, he's strong, he's conscientious, you know what I mean? And he's starting to grow and he's starting to get better with it. You know what I mean? So, we look for big things for him in spring. What do you wanna see from here in spring? Keep competing, you know what I mean? Now, he's made the transition competing today. You know what I mean? Start going in. That transition is all just like I'm in Germaine last year. You throw him in the fire, you let him go, you compete, you go by time we get out of the end of training camp. You have to be them figured out. Yeah, I want that. But now you just throw it all at him.

3:26:41Compete, continue to grow, continue to learn. He has the skill set, he has to length. Now you just gotta put it all together. And it takes time to do that. And hopefully you see that by time we get into training camp. It seems like a bit of a way to your spring. You kind of click for Germaine last year and you start to see and perform a little better in practice. Is that like a benchmark for where you want here? And to be by the middle of spring, does he have to be in a certain point where you want it to start clicking? Yeah, by the time you start getting about two weeks from now, that last week, you know, because it takes time. There's a lot of stuff going on. By the time you get into that last week of spring ball, you'll look to start seeing the things that you look for show up. And then you get another evaluation again. We'll get into training camp. See if this stuff carried on to make sure we go for starting in September. Tim, what's your assessment of the growth of those baits now that he's kind of got his feet under one defense? What do you like about him and that nickel spout? He's very conscientious. He's smart. He can run. He's tough. He's made the adjustment because he's out of Europe on his belt. So now you can see he's not making a lot of mistakes. He competes. He's real conscientious. And he has a physical presence.

3:27:43So the growth has been really good and we can look to continue that throughout spring. Coach, thank you very much. My class one more. All the guys that came back, like Denzel, the great example. Because that surprised you as you reflect on all these guys that came back late in the rain. So they could have turned pro. No, the culture here is real. Coach, they does a great job of building the culture. Our room is close knit. The guys on defense are real close. Those guys want to come back. They have an agenda. You know, we want to come back. They want to come back and walk away with something. So it didn't shock me. But it's a good environment for them too. You know what I mean? That's when you see those guys come back. That's a testimony to the culture that's set here. The brotherhood, the environment. And of course, they run the program for those who want to come back. Because we go at it. It's hard. It's not easy. It's not easy. But what we do. So the fact they come back and do that is a testimony to how he runs the program. Coach, thank you very much. Yeah. What were the conversations like that? That led to you making a decision to go through them, like making that transition.

3:28:43Thank you, line. I mean, there's already a little talk about nice and linebacker. Like, this is where season 8 and end. Like, I was already like kind of like, wasn't really learning it. Like, no one was teaching me, but I was getting the low linebacker a little bit. Just because I knew I probably won't play linebacker at some point. So then like, obviously when Downs came here, it's like, all right. So where can I help the defense the most? You know what I'm saying? And we're trying to get our best level on the field. We're going to help the defense the most. So that's what kind of like the conversation was. And yeah, I just want to do whatever I can. Whatever, wherever the defense needs me, wherever I can impact most, that's kind of the conversation. What's been the most difficult thing about making that transition to me? Because it's less time in space. So less wasting movement. When you're trying to save it, you can kind of a little more waste movement with your feet. You can be take longer strides. You know, linebacks will look like everything's short. Choppy keeps staying power. Keep your base. So I mean, that's just something like every line progress will work on honestly. But yeah, that's kind of been a big thing. But there's a lot of things to work on, obviously. Because why is it that you and the staff decided to linebackers?

3:29:46What happens when you're in the half of the mix? I think my capability, what I'm capable of, and then the person that we have. Like I said, I'm going to try and get the best level on the field, wherever that may be. So you can still try to figure that out. Just the point that the conversation was about. It may have been hard for you to keep your weight down to stay in the same place. Do you look bigger? How much have you changed physically? Are you allowed to just like fight on the knee? I mean last year I was eating regular like I was like two thirty to two thirty five the whole year last year. I don't know if people thought I was two twenty five, but I was like two thirty five sometimes last year. So it's not really like anything changed. Obviously, I'm a graduate of the game some more weight. You know, I'm listening heavier weight. It was different training to be a DB than training to be linebackers. So you couldn't gradually be a little bigger. Are you embracing that different kind of training? Yeah, I love it. I love to be with the linebackers. I think with the DBs, like sometimes in the way room, I was expecting the win.

3:30:48So like when I won, I was like, oh, it's anyone. Well, when I was with the linebackers and I was like, it's more of a conversation. You know what I'm saying? Not any hits with the DBs. I'm two thirty going against someone just two or five. You know what I'm saying? I'm expecting the win. So I love the competition aspect of it. Yeah, Cody said you came in and said, well, he's already bigger than most of the linebackers. So are you playing Will and Sam? I've been working on both, yes. Is there any, like, fundamental difference between the two in terms of both? I'm saying Sam's in the middle. I mean, obviously the Samy, more outside the box, outside the linebacker overhang. You walked up on the edge on the tight end. Will's more inside the box. I think the biggest difference from Sam and Will, Samy's got to be more outside sometimes during the slot with two. But I think it's similar concept because you can do the same thing in the boundary. It's almost more like the San Francisco, the field and Will's at the boundary. So I think it's pretty similar, honestly. The only difference is that Sam, last year, I never really was an interior run fitter like in the A gap, you know, going A to B or whatever that might be.

3:31:52So that's a little different. But I mean, I think I got some of that experience at safety just from a few yards back. So like I said, the only difference really is now just suggesting the less time. Yeah, because most of you coming from where you're coming from, you have a better perspective of what's going on. Chris, you might say. Yeah, yeah. I feel like I have a great understanding of the defense. I think at safety, I kind of already knew what the linebacks are doing. So now what I'm really starting to learn is like exactly like every little detail what the D lines doing. That's not really what I didn't know every little aspect of it. I think I'm starting to learn that now because obviously the linebacker got to be knowing that more. So I think when it's all said, no, I think I have a really, really, really good understanding of defense and knowing exactly what everyone's doing. Do you feel like you're warm enough to afford the mix of the defense to the linebacker? He's having a sudden, because you can drop in one minute, pass rush that you're being. Oh, yeah, I actually said I think you can say it'll be an online backer in the play. You're almost in every play. Yeah, obviously the play can run away from you.

3:32:52But you know, it saves you sometimes you're just back there playing every guest. Like two back pedals and it's a tackle. So I think yeah, a linebacker you're in the play more. More chance, more opportunities to make tackles. Do you feel comfortable there? I mean, what does that, you know, obviously you're staying out like that? Yeah, I feel super comfortable with it. Like I said, I think it's just going to be adjustment. You know, obviously it's different playing from a five than a was from playing from like 10 last year. So I think it's an adjustment, but I'm super comfortable with it. So any of you top here, dad, have you any advice on the new position? Oh, yeah, we watch table all the time. I watch practice. You know, he was a high level linebacker. And I'm just getting started with this. He gets a little shit with little footwork and stuff like that. But it's good. I get good teaching him, you know, obviously coach Lord Knight is great player, great teacher for him, coach Moles. You know, he's a super smart football mind. So I'm getting great teaching all around. The linebacker, everything happens quicker for you. How much did the experience playing some of that sandwich got faster helping with this? I think it helped a little bit. It's been like in terms of physical like being in the box down on the line.

3:33:56But I do think the the run fit as a will and the Sam can be a little different. Like in terms like I said, like being an interior fitter, like your 30 backer, when A you get pools, now you got to go spill it. So things like that. But I think I'm adjusting well. I think I'm picking up on stuff pretty fast. You know, this is going to be a lot of stuff to work on though. Do you feel more pressure talking to the media with your brother sitting right there? Not at all. What do you think has been the biggest change from linebacker safety climate? I think the biggest change will probably be that that's 10 to 5. Because it's a big adjustment because everything's happening faster and you got to react faster. And like I said, the waist and movements, I think footwork is huge. I think when you see the great linebackers, since the play happens they're going. They're not taking any wasted steps or not fall stepping, things like that. So I think wasting, wasting movement and being able to see what's happening react fast. It's been the big spend fitter for being on the same team with your brother.

3:34:57I mean, you know you got someone out there that's, it's more than a team. You know, we call each other brothers, but you know, bloods, bloods and little thicker. So that's always pretty cool. You know, it's always, it's never 101. Yeah, but when he tells you something, he doesn't observe that, you know, it's coming from. Yeah, I think when you're blood like that, I think he's not scared of telling me the truth, you know what I'm saying? You know, obviously guys here, we have tough love, but I think it's always going to be a little different when it's your brother. Because he going to keep it 100% blunt exactly what you need to hear and know what you want to hear. What's your advice on playing with Dickel? Oh, for him? I mean, he just so out of leather, he keeps trusting his instincts. I think he's going to be great. I think what's huge for him is like I said, the athletic ability. Speed, you know, he blitz off the edge. He blitzed super fast. And he's just great in coverage too. So I think something really good. I think we'll be able to do a lot of different things, kind of like you see with hand caught.

3:35:57Obviously a little different body than a hand caught, but I think he's going to be really good at once. He's going to be good at once. He's essential in that field. He's neat. He's neat this time. Thank you. Great. A temporary injury here that, you know, we're hopefully getting them back here soon. I'd like to take it on too. Take it on first day. How do you see them? Yeah, I know. Progress being made and, you know, the biggest thing you try to figure out is when guys make mistakes, do they learn from the mistake and move on from it? He's done that. I saw him flash today in special teams. So that's good. That's positive. But yeah, I think the more guys are thrown into the fire, you kind of find out how they respond. And, you know, a lot of the installs kind of in now. I think we'll still continue to install some things and look at some different schemes on both sides of the ball. But the next two weeks, it really an opportunity for guys to go compete. And he's going to be one of them because we're trying to build three deep at each position based on, you know, the way next year is going to be and what to play off. And everything like that. We know we're going to, we used to say a pair and a spare. And now we need three at each position. So, need to build depth at all positions.

3:36:58And so he'll be somebody that'll be in the mix. Yep. Yeah, they were in the back field of bunch, especially like you said in the coming out period. You know, first time doing coming out, a little, you know, too loose on offense. You know, we got to tighten that up. But you can see the quickness with some of those interior guys. And you'll see Caden and you see some of the movement that's going on in there. I think Jason Moore, I think Larry talked about that. He's flashed and showing that he can do it. So, you know, and then also, you know, on the edge, you see Mitchell Mellton getting the back field as a rush. You got a couple of sacks, I think, today. So, you know, same thing. We're looking for, for, you know, three, three guys at each position because all those guys are going to play. And we're going to roll this year because we know it's going to be a long season.

3:38:01Yes. Yeah. I think any time you have somebody who's as talented as both of those guys are, you know, you get excited about them, certainly in the recruiting process. But then when you have guys who have discipline and then skill like they do, that's when you have a chance to have a great player. I think both of them have discipline in their life. I think both of them have built up a skill package. Kaila already has a year of College of Bonner is belt at a high level. So, you know, he's further along that way. But Jeremiah has really stepped in. You know, he got his black, black stripe off real quick. He's got a great approach. And, you know, I'm going to be careful what I say, but he's been certainly a pleasure to watch and we're all very excited about his future. If he continues on the path that he's on, he'd have, he's going to play a lot of football and certainly would have a chance to start as well.

3:39:09Yeah. Yeah, I think you're seeing CJ play fast. You know, he really likes blitzing. You can tell he's quick in there. He's doing a nice job timing up the blitzes and another year under his belt of experience, being in a room with Tommy Aikenberg, Seal Chambers, watching how they did it. Now he's doing it. But I think you're seeing the speed and the athleticism and the length between Cody. You know, our Val Sonny, CJ, you know, those guys are athletic, you know, gave powers. You know, all these guys are guys who they can blitz, they can cover, they can, you know, check defenses. They think they're doing a good job with that. James and Jim have both done a really good job of training them that way. So excited about that group, you know, in their versatility. They're not what they need to be yet. You know, I'm glad we're not playing. Yeah, yeah, it was Will Howard and Seth and Bob.

3:40:13You know, it's kind of a buildup. You know, you kind of watch them and watch their practice and then, and then you see, you know, this program, you made it and start to get to the heart of spring practice and you know, kind of earn in there. That's right. So I would do it that way. And both of those guys deserve to get to the heart of spring practice. Yeah, I think the next level of role-runner, I think the DG and the Playboy this year, same conversation we had about the other position. He's very quick in short areas. I think he does a nice job in the slot. I think he's a mismatch for a lot of guys in there because of his foot. He's a very good role-runner for the quarterback. He's that excellent bodyguide who understands states really well and operates in short areas.

3:41:13So the challenge for him is to be stronger and play on contact. But if you could do that, it helps definitely be good. Yeah, well, I think all the other events have run hard just for him. It's just that the students have a little bit of a different scheme that they're doing. Not that they're not that good, but some of the different things they're taking that up really well. It's great to have a great job with a leadership. It's just a challenge, I really, a job coming out of down 8, Saturday, or just so you know. But it's great to see both games and say and coming in fresh with a thinking that's what you see both of it. Now, it's going to be exciting about all of them. And I think it's a deep room. I'd like to take a suggestion of a certain talent in the country that's sitting in the building. One of the guys who's been very, very good. I think it's just going to play for us.

3:42:14You get a carry for it. You see gap. You've done a very good job. Very disappointed with the approach. You've been a guy that you know, could really bring value for it. I think you can see it in the world that more farmers are talking about. You have to be a good pro. You did this in the world, you did well. I think that you're just going down for it. You did a really good job in the market. That happens to you. I felt like you see this drown in a great deal of farmers. You see the market. You see the market. You see the market. I think you got a good way about how to do it. You see the market. You see the market. You've done a good way about how to pull it back there.

3:43:16So you know, as you have different needs, you have different eyes. You've got right. You've got lots of eyes. You've got to see some of those things. So you see the things. So you can see the handle of the eyes. So you see this in here. I think you can see the progress. But I really like this. You can see the picture in the stuff that I see. I think that you can see the difference in how it's done. Yeah. I just want to make sure we have. We have to do the good candidates. That's a really good conversation. Just want to make sure we get the right person in place. And definitely taking. You know, conversation. You know, it's feedback from. From you know, lot of people in the program to make sure we have the right guy. have to get it done right now because of recruiting. I feel like we should have somebody in place here by next week. And final question, Andy Bakker.

3:44:30Well, he's finally healthy. And he's actually putting stack and practices together. So I think that's probably the biggest thing. Because I don't think he's been able to really show what he can do because he's had some injuries here and there. And he put on a lot of strength and a lot of weight early on and then had a few issues. But now he's healthy. So at least we're seeing him out there learning and growing and making some plays. So I think we're kind of halfway through and figure out how we grade it out today. But at least we're making progress because he's getting on the field and he's getting those reps under his belt. All right, guys. Thanks. Thanks. Thanks. Thanks, guys. And having a play. And what if it's not the look that I thought it was going to be now what? Where do my eyes need to be? And how does that affect my decision? But constantly playing those games both on the field. But also I think it's just as important to play that in your head. We talk to those guys all the time that relay it around a bed and maybe watching some film and looking at a clip

3:45:32and it'll be OK, what would I do here on this play? What would I do here on this play? And constantly challenging your mind to play with an imagination even when we're not out there on the field doing it. It's an opportunity to grow up. It's an opportunity to get better. And maybe somehow mentally I can put myself in that position. So if I do get a look that hadn't shown up on tape all year along but they give us a different look on defense than maybe they've shown, I'm ready for that moment. We're going to see Lincoln grow. What's that? Where have you seen Lincoln grow? Well, number one, you know, you're using Iron Bucket. So which is pretty incredible. Obviously we know that's a big deal around here. His work in the way room was tremendous. So as an athlete, we've definitely seen that. And then, you know, on top of that, we've seen him grow as a leader. He's more vocal. His presence has felt, I think he's playing with it a little bit of an edge to him, which is good to see. I think you have to play that position with a little bit of an edge without ever getting too higher too low. And that's contagious. So we're seeing that right now from Lincoln. And then, you know, as far as mechanically it goes,

3:46:34you know, we're definitely seeing Lincoln get the ball out quick. I think he's accurate. You know, I think that his base has improved. There's been a couple of things that in the spring, he was working on with his footwork. And we've seen some drastic improvements that way. Because Lincoln's specifically, you know that he's hit the black jersey on a lot of things that bloodshed probably just taken away by going play day and things like that. How do you see him as an athlete in that regard, while also not being able to see it as much on the practice field since he's not alive? Yeah, I mean, you know, you definitely can't see it to the full extent as though you go live. But we still see it. We still see it. There's times when he's extending plays or stepping up through the pocket and taking off and going. And there's no question. Lincoln's a great athlete. And that's got to be something that he plays through his strengths. That's got to be something that his game has in it, which he's shown to do a great job of. He's been a couple of places throughout spring where he's extended the play and kept his eyes down field and made some great throws. So, you know, that's, although we can't see that quite

3:47:36as well because we're not going live, there's still definitely a feeling for that. You've got to learn that when it says in regard and I'm sure there are things that do really well. How do you make sure that those guys are trying to win the competition on what they do well, but also making them get out of their comfort zone so they're being thrust into positions that maybe they're not super comfortable with to show you guys what they can do. Yeah, I mean, you know, as we script practice and we go through it, we try to be extremely detailed in the different reps that everyone's getting in. It's not like, you know, we would ever script a certain play on purpose because it fits someone's strengths better. You know, we want them to run the offense. You know, the offense is always going to adjust to the skill set of the players that are in the entire offense, but at the end of the day, you know, the offense is going to be the offense. So, from a decision-making perspective, from a throw perspective, those guys are going out there and getting those reps and competing in it. I assume that this one training camp here, not really taking in terms of who's ahead. At what point do you need to start thinking that way?

3:48:37Are you just right now just taking the challenge and getting it wrong? Yeah, right now we're just taking a day by day and really period by period on the field, meeting off the field. You know, and you know, the one thing that's pretty cool is those guys are very competitive and they push each other hard and they're, you know, they're ultimately really good for each other because they both make each other uncomfortable because they're both very good players. You know, and Tavians right there with them, including that mix and above all that, they're still friends. You know, I think it's pretty cool right now. It's just, you know, you walk into that quarterback room and you've got a bunch of really, really good guys that all get along well and, you know, are willing to help each other out and give each other pointers and tips that they see something and, you know, it's an enjoyable environment to be around every day, but ultimately, those guys are competing, you know. They're going out there and they're trying to win the job and I think they realize that every moment is important and every period is important and they're going out there trying to get done.

3:49:38I'm not going to talk about it. On my last question, folks, when you talk about getting the ball out quicker, how much of that is efficiency of mechanics and how much of that is mental, like how quickly they see something to get the ball out faster? Definitely a combination of both, you know. I think when you look at a concept, you know, how quick can I process the information I'm getting from the defense? And the way that I can process that information quickly is where my eyes are, my eyes are in the right spot. If I'm looking at the right thing and I can anticipate what that defender's going to do and make a decision and get the ball out, right? That's a major, major factor in it. And then there's also a piece of it, right? That comes down to the mechanics as well. But I think more than anything, you know, it's about making sure my eyes are in the right spot, making sure that I'm trusting what my read is and making sure that I'm getting the ball out and making a great decision with football. Coach, I still have to thank you very much. Thanks guys. Thank you. It's not too hard for me to put it behind me. Some of happening in life, some happening in the game that may not go our way,

3:50:39but just by responding and coming out here and having fun. What's so, when you see older players, you know, for previous generations in the game, that have had concussions and some of the struggles they're having in their older life. What are these specialists telling you to alleviate any concerns that you may have about the potential of having to deal with those same problems, those former, those current weak young people? Yeah, that's a great question. And a lot of the information and a lot of things before, like during the time of those older players, are a lot different than the knowledge and information that we have now. And I mean, we're able to treat concussions and also back then is like if you got a concussion, they were sending you right back into the game. So now it's a lot different. We got a protocol and it gives your brain time to heal and everything. So I think things are setting place now where it's a lot better than before and that time where we're making problems later on. So that's why I'm not really too concerned about it.

3:51:39Can you recommend it to you? Say it again. So how much recommended by the trainer or the technical staff? Oh, no, I just wanted to get into a new home. I mean, people have a refer to it. They also, don't know how team meeting has said how there's a number of helmets that are better than other helmets right now. So I just wanted to check those out and see what they are. Is this home cushion any more severe than the others you had? No, and that's one of the other things. I mean, I'm not going to give a whole seminar on concussions over here. But no, it's not necessarily more severe. Each concussion, like just what I learned, each concussion is its own specific concussion. And you gotta give that time to heal. And then once that's healed and ready to go, once you get back out here, you're good. So it's not like concussions are building on top of each other. Like if you give it time to heal, but I think like before, when guys were getting trouble with the long time ago, it was like they get a concussion, not fully healed, and they'd go right back out there and playing. Ben, so a captain see a side or maybe part of it. Can you just reflect on how you've grown since showing up here in fairly 21 into the player first to our men? Yeah, I've been here for a little while now.

3:52:40I've been enjoying every second of it. I always came in trying to be a captain and trying to lead these guys as best as I can. I definitely feel that I've grown vocally and just trying to help build the team up and build myself up. So just trying to do anything I can to help this team. In a concussion situation like this, you're so close to reminding your brother, do you have to sort of involve the family's decision from that guy? Yeah, definitely. They came down with me. So when I was, I had, like when the team was here doing meetings, I was driving up to a Pittsburgh meeting with the concussion specialists and everything. And they were with me and just easing their mind. That's the biggest thing, easing their mind. They're all, they're worried and everything, but they'll be okay. That'll be good. We saw the play with Elijah Moller, your head is growing. Say it again. We saw the play at practice. Yeah. Did you think it'd be up for two weeks after that? Oh, I mean, I was good pretty much. It was that day that I was kind of had a headache and everything, but I was pretty much good after that. But it was just about going through the protocol

3:53:40and I mean, there was no rush back. We weren't playing regular season games. So I mean, I was just really getting the time to heal. It wasn't any rush. You both already had a helmet to helmet. Just from your perspective, it has to be an expert. But are those doing what they're intended to do? That I, you know, Dante, learned it when he got to, you know what I'm saying? Like guys are still getting concussions and getting them where. Yeah, it's definitely still a physical sport. So I mean, concussion happened regardless. I know if you were in a Guardian cap or not. I think it could be looked at too. I know and just talked about it on the Guardian cap. I don't think in the back that is as much padding is I would like, but I feel it could be looked at. But I think you get a concussion whether you were in a Guardian cap or not. So I mean, stuff happens. This is a physical game. Sorry. Would you just clarify this? You said you're going to get an in-home. You also wear the Guardian cap during the game? No, I'm not going to. You feel that about this in-home,

3:54:41yeah. What's the name and the brand of helmet? Like any details you have? Oh, I'm not sure the brand of name yet. I'll have to get it from those guys inside. But you guys will definitely be seeing it soon though. I haven't got it just yet. How do you feel about not playing in a preseason game? You have to say as your career where it's not a big deal. Oh, I want to say it's not a big deal, but I don't feel any pressure any like, oh, I just needed to play in a preseason game. I feel that's a great opportunity for the younger guys to get out there and showcase what they're able to do. But I still been practicing and playing and working out and getting ready for the season. So I mean, I know the game. I'm looking forward to that first game. And I'm not really concerned about not being able to get a snap in the preseason game. I think about MJ did feel it. And particularly during the joint practice is against Jefferson. Yeah, MJ is the number one corner. I mean, you guys see it. He's going to be big for this year. And I think that's what's special about this team. We got three number one corners myself, MJ and Greg. I feel we all number one's and we able to do different things out there on the field.

3:55:43And one guy's out. Another guy can step in and not lose track or not lose pace on what we got going on. I know. MJ has grown as a leader in the early of the year. Three and he's trying to figure out this world as a guy that's bringing energy and also trying to bring people along. Yeah, definitely. Like you said, bring it in. That's exactly bringing energy, bringing guys along. MJ is real vocal out there. And he competes as he's in competitor out there and just working hard and trying to be the best. He got the mindset of wanting to be the best. And he is. So we just go out there and compete with one another. We have happy to see CD Lam get his contract signed and be ready to go out there and play this game so you can face the best. Now, I'm definitely happy for him. That's like changing a contract and everything for him and his family. So definitely happy for him. I'm looking forward to having that match up in the game. I always love going against the number one guys and best guys on that team. So I'll be looking forward to it. It tends to look up more to history and concussions that we're talking about. I think when you suffer the latest one, people who cover

3:56:46the team and fans are wondering how loud a discussion could you contemplate and retire? And could that ever go through your mind or do you immediately know that you're going to come back? Yeah, like I said, this is a game I love, man. I love playing this game. Being with the guys out here. I really don't see myself doing too much other stuff. So unless I'm just really physically unable to play this game, I don't see myself stepping away from football no time soon. And like I said before, I can't take it easy on these receivers out here. So me being out here, I got to give them a good look and just go out there and play. But I answer your question now. I haven't seen myself walking away though. Are you actually out of protocol now? Yes. Yeah. Hey, did you know, it's a great cold miles hardened steel drafts. What have you seen? Say it again. It's a great cold miles hardened steel of the drafts. And then you've seen from him, other camp, and what kind of excites you by him? Yeah, Miles, he's been balling. He's been showing out, making plays against the Vikings. And just making plays out here. So it was big for him to make the team. I was happy for him.

3:57:46We all congratulated him. And he's going to be a big piece on our team, like coming going forward. And so often, you mentioned making the receivers better. Where have you seen it? How have you made Jamari talk about how you've helped him? You know, as a rookie, what have you seen out of him in his development? Yeah. He's looking good since he came in. I think he's been getting better and better. He's night and day from once. He came in, so where he's at now, I believe. I think that's just his competitive nature, and what he's been doing out there in practice, and us going against one another out there. So he's been good, and he's going to be a big piece as well. It's our offense. What's your tip to the last one? What sort of tip do you give receivers? How can you help a receiver? Yeah, I mean, it's a constant communication. If I were to win on a red, they may come and ask me what it is that you've seen on that play, that you're able to get in position. And I'll tell them that. I may ask them a question. So it's just that constant communication on how we could get each other better. Are you shaking? Thank you, guys. Thank you. Thank you. Glad to see you back.

3:58:47I just... I feel like, is that kind of mindset that you take in every day of practice? You just say you're not happy. You know, Jeremiah catches a little on people like 98 out of 100 receivers. Is that how you're probably not catching those on you? That's what... Is it kind of... Is it keep that in the back of your head and you're going to get Jeremiah and Carnell and Brandon and a Mecha? Yes, that's my mindset. Like, in practice the whole day, I want those boys to get me everything that they have. So I go, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, and then Saturday, and he's going to be easy for me and I'll be prepared. What have you seen with Grocery, the young, the mourners? Obviously, we saw that it's not a Jeremiah last year. They're your mates, sorry. But Calvin and some of the Aaron, some of the young guys. How have you seen them come along? And Scott has gotten completely better from his brain. Glad completely better. Is that just time in the program? I'm just getting used to the speed of college football, I would say.

3:59:49What about Calvin? He was obviously here last year. He was. Calvin has gotten a lot better. I would say that he's gotten a lot smarter. And then he also write GB. Go ahead. I think he's there about Calvin's intelligence, where he's grown, where specifically is it? The film room is it picking up the playbook? Where have you seen that? The brain up a grab? I would say Calvin has gotten smarter just like his game knowledge, expecting like a different kind of routes and stuff like that. What did everything start to click for you in the last year? Was it in the soft sea? When did you feel really comfortable? I would say in the spring, I started to get a lot more comfortable in our defense. We say you break up the past yesterday with the German England. Sorry for your ask, but just earlier. But what is like going up against him? Do you? It seems like you enjoy it. Yeah, I love it. He's tough. I like going against him a lot. He's really good. What have you improved in your game? Just from that, for example, those one-on-one matchups. This preseason or whatever.

4:00:50You know how belly-hooed this game is. So, Jeremiah, he forces me to pay the back of the game. If you don't pay the back against him, he'll go get it. Yeah. Yeah. And you, Dave, send it. How would you describe this defense now compared to this time of year ago, from the standpoint of a confidence factor? You don't mean that you guys feel on the field? How would you describe it? It's different about it, I guess. I feel like everybody's a lot more smart of this area. Everybody's right. I would just say that we're going to just smarter. Yeah. When you look up and late and Ransom decided to come back and Caleb down, transfer it in, what did you feel about that? Did it just grow stronger in that one week span, two weeks span? You're still on up saying? I feel like. Those guys have played the level of those guys that played that. Yeah, I would say that. Yeah. You know what I mean, again, um, uh, a downscum in it, um, um, we were saying he was coming back, zero sales coming back, it just so like, the movie after the end of the night.

4:01:53Yeah, right. Thanks, man. Of course. Berence versus Mobile Quarterbacks helps us, obviously, being a GSEL for his home, we've been learning from our, where we had, we had him going through the hole and had him scrambles, where we could learn from those crampals. And we go from that game, and the past game we played against, we were just learning, learning, the Quarterbacks tendencies, and when they like to run, and where they like the run and it really helps us out really closing the cage and catching pocket problem. Is there a fine line between being aggressive but also being wary this guy can slip away your cell when I'm saying time? Yeah you can't just go right at me and go ahead I'm sorry. Yeah he's definitely a quarterback and guess I guess I'd get outside the pocket so I mean being he's definitely a threat he's a man guy in the offense he runs the show so I mean be able to stop him and contain him really slows the offense down so be able to cage the pocket and be able to slow him down and make him make more decisions on the run and moving around it helps us. Go ahead and one more him I'm sorry. Well no I didn't want to ask about their center their center what I impressed with you with him the last time you guys played he seemed to have a pretty good game you know and he's

4:02:55kind of a kind of a you know actually a kind of a tough guy to move out of there and something looks like I mean what's your impression of him? He's definitely one of the better centers in the conference I mean he's a really good guy I mean being a be in there be in the size and be able to move the way you can it's really hard to get around him at times but he's definitely having the game plan and working against and working to tend to see that he has a big work against that really helps us helps me. Yeah. Steven Leonard College football foul. Yeah kind of piggybacking on that how much of it was their offensive line being a strike that are team versus Dylan Gabriel being able to escape and and the lack of pressures that we had on our defense. Oh yeah I mean when you got a good offense along I mean it makes it even better for a quarterback you know being able to roll out to know that your alarm is going to help you protect you when you're in the pocket so I mean it makes it easier for throws and it makes it harder for us honestly for having a good offense line so I mean like I said before it is being able to attack the offensive line attack their weaknesses and be able to go after them make it harder for the quarterback he's harder for them a world. Uh for the right Andrew Gillick, believe in Doc Brown.

4:03:56What's the challenge similar to Tim's question and you know when you play a team like this that runs the level of RPOs that they do that was the how do you stay true and be aggressive and force the issue where you know Dylan Gabriel is really going to make it a great thing. Uh yeah like I said just putting pressure on them means we just be able to get it get back there I mean we got a lot of different plays that can help us get back there faster in playing and playing to their tendencies you know a lot of times they have the RPO the RPO helps them out it means you get the ball out fast I mean I mean things like Jackson and JTB you know get their hands up knock the ball down crazy stream amount of pressure for the quarterback when you got hands in face all times. And final questions Bill Rubino with Columbus dispatch. We've asked about Dylan Gabriel and the receivers they're not one dimensional they have a good running back in Jordan James what makes him special and what's the challenge for you guys. Uh I think he's definitely one of the better running backs on the conference as well I mean just how hard he runs is it's hard to bring him down at time so I mean as a front pro we probably stopping around that's the first thing we're going to do as we go on the game I mean past Russian is good

4:04:57and all but we can't stop the run I mean they're gonna run the ball down the throw all the time so all the time we have to figure out how we're gonna stop them we're gonna run the ball and then we're gonna take them down so I mean it's our job as a front pro to go on there and stop the run we're gonna make them one dimensional as we go out there so I mean we get out there every time every mindset we go out there it means we're gonna get we're not gonna allow them to get in the yards let them to get going we're gonna stop and we're gonna make them throw the ball. Well JTB is up your ass Tim about how to compare contrast him and Jack as personalities what's your take on that how different are they as just personalities. I definitely think Jack is more outgoing I mean the guy is nice like the light that shines around me and everybody goes around him and everybody loves him he's an outgoing guy they're gonna come to you shake your hand any time of day and then JT's more of the blue guy I mean a lot of guys gravitate to him I mean he just has a bright smile on him all the time he's just a great guy that people like to be around and they're two good people so it's hard to tell. And Ty I do that one more question for you Tony Irvin. Okay. You guys obviously a face tough.

4:05:58Well you did it last week what's the key for you as a defensive one facing tempo. Oh yeah I mean we've been going through all week in the past two weeks is just getting set I mean that's the first thing you do if you're not set I mean it makes it harder to do your job so let's be on the game the ball get set before they're lined up and set the ball is one and more important thing so when we're set we're able to do our jobs that they're efficiency they they can before they can do theirs. How does it feel to them? It could be difficult times you know you gotta look to the signline first you gotta get the call I mean the call has to be set down first so it can't be difficult times but that's definitely what we've been working on the past three weeks to just get the call get the call early get set so we can go and be play faster. You've changed the play to one side of the field and now it's lined up they're going to be in it to be on this line so like you've got to you're just running the signline side line just to get the money. Oh yeah I mean I have been a lot a last game you know it's hard it's definitely tough I mean that's what we work on practice just moving as fast as we can we're simulating these things so we can get into the game it's a lot easier so we moving around side to side run around doing extra conditioning just for moments like this.

4:06:59Hi thank you very much. Thank you. Thanks, Tom. I think you know you're not going to get hit but more preseason and first couple games I'm excited to see see what that looks like. I think of the sheets especially. I'm excited man like I said from jump he's a special special player you don't really get that so many players like him that's so quick so fast at least speed and I ain't going to run routes too so I'm excited to see what he does in the future but I feel like that's the least they can do for him this year. How do you think he would get in the conflict with one another? It's just speed man. Speed you can't teach speed at all just having us on opposite sides even to play on both sides. It's just speed down the field you can run 15 20 yard in breakers out breakers and like I say you're going to have to play two safes most of the time or you can run the ball you can get underneath routes. It's going to be a great compliment to the offense so I'm excited. Chris you said you hope this new officer will play make your decision to make place.

4:08:00What about you specifically what's an area where you think you'll have more opportunity than this your game? Um like this is a lot of areas that you can see to to look at to improve my game but yards out the cases of one I'm looking for for to just more opportunities with that more space just to showcase my speed and my ability with the ball so I'm excited to do that this year uh something that I really showcase the first two years so I'm excited to be with it's something that like the quick game element of it just getting the ball in your hands like quick game play action uh more over the over the middle routes uh it's a lot of different things that you can say that this guy's going to help that but like I said I'm excited. How would you describe the chemistry between you and Eric and you going? We're getting way better man I mean it was our first year last year so it was kind of up and down but uh that's what it comes with the game of football so uh we worked a lot this off season

4:09:02OTA's which was really good and we got off to a good start these first two days of camp getting extra working but that's going to come with time so I'm not worried about that at all we both competitors we both want to be the best so uh we got to we got to do some to be good so where do you kind of notice that difference it's just like feel on the route like kind of what what do you kind of notice now that it's year two that gets more nap? what do you mean? so like Eric, are you when you're just going to get your work? where do you kind of know? it's just like it's more than that man it's in a fail everybody you know everybody's good so we just got to know what each other is thinking, pre snap post snap coverage is where the balls won't go just reads what read I am and then the progression everything goes along with that so just being on the same page being like I say chemistry is built with time so just little stuff like that that turns into big things is going to be huge. you caught one from Spencer Routland at 8-2 what do you heard early impressions from? uh it's real talented that's the first thing I seen from him his arm talent is out the

4:10:03charts he's a real natural natural feel out there he's he's going to be real good I want to see him in action but from from my first impression he's going to be a real good player. it's going back to the sheet that you talked about all the different stuff you should do you think there's still a lot more there for him? oh yeah he hasn't really I think this is first year being receiver two or really receiver in my opinion we're both a receiver one so I just be able to move around run real routes feel like it's going to be a huge advantage for for the same so it's a special player and I can't wait to see him ball and I can't wait to see him get more opportunities and you can see what he can do I'm on my run real routes he's just like an opportunity to run yeah just just getting more you know he hadn't really played too many plays his first two years he kind of just get thrown in there when he's getting the ball or he's a decoy or something like that but he's actually being involved in the offense always been in even on run plays I feel like

4:11:08he's going to be huge advantage for him to get a feel for the game and be more natural out there how far does a receiver like that do the shed kind of you know think of him as the deep threat level and then so people just think of him as a deep star but he can do more how hard is it to kind of shove that label or that perception I mean that's that's what life everybody is trying to label somebody as one thing or two things but I feel like you can showcase I mean that's not really who you are you know I'm saying as you get as it gets more opportunities as you as you can see you can see you can do more and more that's what that's what anybody on the team so I'm excited like I said and for his for his huge opportunities going to get this year and it's going to be a big one for the Saints because does this scheme ask for more blocking from the receivers is there more responsibility oh yeah for so I mean that's what I told you too we both have to block and I know we're not the biggest guys or the strongest but like I said we want to be on the field we got to be on the field for the play action plays all those things so we both got to go block D-Line and block linebackers but that's what come

4:12:13with football so we both got to take take that next step in our game is that somewhere there's like a payoff like you know I know you fly from play action next time yeah it's going to be a huge payoff like I said most of our office is based on play action all the in-breakers all the yards at the catch up plays so we got to go in there block and like I said take that next step and be able to be grateful for for our team like in here oh yeah so yeah I feel the weather out here man that's what I'm used to not using the war and then it's out there trying to catch my breath it's a great opportunity for us you're going to check to see family and friends and also this is their football friend here not yet but they don't they don't come by her soon appreciate you all we're going to see the the whole field while he's in the while he's in the pocket are two big things in terms of his accuracy all right I'm very wb and that coaches is kind of uncharted waters with the new playoffs system and everything from an offensive standpoint how much of the offense is in and are you holding things

4:13:19back because there's some poofy I mean how do you manage all that yeah I don't think we hold anything back I think our offense is always game plan specific in terms of who we're playing and how do we attack what they do each different each defense your face is somewhat unique you know and so they you can say hey just teams a little bit like this team but not totally like that so I think it's it's not hey this is a really good play let's not run it because we're going to need it down the road it's you know you have to win every game and and I don't think you can take that approach of let's save this for another game because you don't know how how games are going to express themselves during during the course of the game itself so everything we do is just game plan specific specific especially now that we've gotten into a conference play yeah I mean we could add stuff that I think we may have done in the spring but we haven't used yet just because we haven't faced that defense yet I think they're different I don't really I've said it before

4:14:35I'm not into comparing one group to another group I didn't know that that's pretty cool for those guys that's a prestigious award you know those guys usually go unnoticed you know that that's the nature of the position if you're an offensive lineman they you know that by their clothes are too valuable hardware they don't really get a lot of attention they're not they're not the guys that are out in the limelight let's some of these other guys but they they work their tails off you know I think that's the the gist of any team that's going to be a really good football has to be strong on both lines and the fact that they've been recognized for that that's something that's that's pretty cool but now we got to live up we got to live up to that standard every day so I've been really impressed and I think really Donnie and Seth have really stepped up in in that leadership port you know and I think the two of those guys have really kind of led from the front

4:15:35to tough hard-knows physical players obviously Donnie being selfish and moving from left guard to left tackle was a really big deal for us and he continues to work at his craft every day because you know I think everybody just thinks oh line but you know all five of those positions are really different and it's not easy to go from one position to another position and the fact that Donnie's done that has been great and I think Seth really because he calls all of our identifications and and directs what our blocking schemes will be you know it's really kind of fell into that leadership role force and I think our guys are rallying behind those two yeah I think it's cool you know I I've not seen I've seen just highlights in the football game in there and I've been a game at rigley when I was out recruiting once but the fact that you can play in settings like that is it's pretty cool and I think it makes it unique you know obviously they're refurbishing their stadiums so you know they got to be on the they got to either build the one that they did on campus or go to rigley so the fact that we get to be the one team that

4:16:39plays in rigley I think it'd be pretty cool and I think our players won't do that awesome warm podcast chip I know every every game plan every week is is different contingent on the opponent but it's felt like the last couple game plans and lean a little bit more on Will's over rushing threat what's what's motivating that decision the defense is that the people deploy you know sometimes they they always have an extra guy in the box and if you run the quarterback then that even's numbers back out is really it's as simple as that you know some teams don't do that and other teams do do that so you know it's it's just sometimes when you get especially when you get in a conference play I think there's a lot of people in this league didn't know how to stop the run so you know you're going to be able to have a mobile quarterback and it helps so Will has that mobility the land is king of the north chip do you do you ever interrate off the plate or change something up kind of just for the sake of doing it to break a tendency or put something different on stone or is it always opponent specific no it's always opponent specific but you still self-scout yourself and what are we doing out of this formation and what is our run pass ratio and and even within that within what out of this formation all runs

4:17:44are this you know and then that's always the the fine line well we should do something different well what we're doing is working why would we do something different you know so you kind of play that game and go back and forth with it but we're constantly working on self-scout of ourselves and tendencies that we're trying to just understand but sometimes these are good tendencies you know you could be hey you're 90% run out of this formation you're also 90% success out of this formation so you know do you not call that ever again because you think that they think that you think this you know you can get into that real dilemma of just you know it's still about executing and still about lighting up and playing so but we do spend a lot of time on that that's part of what our weekly game plan meetings are about. Any more emphasis on that in a college football season that can now be 17 18 games where you want to make sure you're you're sprinkling in different things so that if you get the game 17 and a team has a pretty expansive book on you guys you know wise that they can't you know key in on something you've done all year you want to make sure you have those changes. Yeah there has to be some of those but again I think you can drive

4:18:48yourself crazy when we put this on tape and they think that we can do this because they know that we can do that they can't do that then we do that then it I didn't make any sense what I just said and that's what's going on in your head when you're starting to think about all that stuff too so it's it's that process you know I still think you have to part of being really good at it is is what are we good at and how do we continue to be good at it so that everybody in the stadium doesn't know hey they're running the ball over the right side on this play because that's what they always do you know I think you're you're still trying to mass some of those things but you still have to play to your strengths. Can't we be wrong? Yeah what? Ship you kind of offered a question about what running I think you know the class of your company's going you mentioned you know I don't have some TV nights I'm sorry I have to be power all time but how do you how do you see in Will's progression and understand or reading what you want to do and if I'm sitting hanging off to Q or Dre pulling or is that more from you guys out he has a full dance or more. No no it's a good question we don't tell him we want you to do

4:19:51this or want you to do that it's totally a lot of that stuff is if it's a read play it's he has to read it out and how he sees it just like we don't tell him where to throw you know it's the plays called to the Curl or the flat but it depends there's a defender defend the Curl or defend the flat like you can't tell him before the play throw the curl because I know the guy's going to chase the flat well then he sits in the curl and you throw a pick it's coach told me to go there you know we know we know we told you to read this player so it's the same thing with some of the read plays that we run he and I think he does a really good job you know he was really well trained I think Chris climate does a great job and calling climate a great job at case date and you know so we'll get a really really good understanding of of our running game you know it was more of just learning the terminology here as opposed to what it was like there but I I think he doesn't really really good job with that and when we put something in new it may be new to this unit but it's not new to will it's just oh yeah we run this and then we'll go back and actually look at case date tape with him and you know kind of pick his brain how do you read and how is it presented to you and what's the best way for us to present it so that we can execute

4:20:52you're like often from this bad what do you see is the advantage from from huddling more and and just sort of planning to slow pace of play in offense versus past couple years you can achieve a more place for a minute than you are now pace a little slower just what does the advanced let yeah I think you can communicate better you know so obviously the the thing that's changed this season and I think a lot of people have slowed down is the ability for the quarterback to communicate with everybody before the play you know before it was just everything was driven by signals and everybody was looking to the sideline and then getting everybody on the same page so there's there's some teams and sometimes when that's to your advantage you know I think more people do it to us because they don't want the bone or hands so that I think the game has we don't get as many possessions right now as we have in the past just because I think all sides are doing it a little bit more but I think the communication thing that you're allowed to talk to the quarterback up to 15 seconds on the on the play clock is is one of the advantages of huddling

4:22:01yeah it gives us an advantage again from being able to communicate so what will can talk to the offensive line about you know remain like normally you'd send a play and but he couldn't give him like hey these guys are 85% twist and boundary corner on this play so make sure that we're really high alert for that you know so there's there's a lot more that goes on it's not a two-way conversation because he can't talk back to you but you know we have a style of speaking in that situation so that we can communicate some different things before it was you just called the play and broke now you can give him a lot more information you know I mean there may be a player got injured the play before hey there's a new left corner in the number 15 we talked about him we saw him on film this is what he's susceptible to let's make sure we're attacking him when you know he's in instead of you waited till you get to the sideline between series and go hey there's a new corner and I didn't know he was in but you can communicate that stuff now give me a little thanks Jerry uh hold up on that a little bit or just on offensive plays do you ever have times in games where you have to save yourself I gotta be disciplined here I gotta call some run plays

4:23:04I know it sounds kind of stupid but I mean to have the balance when you look at this lineup and with Jeremiah and Mecca and Carnell and you know you could throw them all 50 times a game and nobody would question that either you're saying does it take discipline to also stay with the run game I think it takes discipline to know what the defense is trying to take away from you so know for you to try to continue to throw it if they're going to play high-safedies and light boxes you know you should be running it more than you know and when people are loading up the box take away you're running saying hey we're not going to let you run the ball in the situation and you are till still trying to run the ball in the situation that's that's what I think the discipline is so sometimes it's not consecutive plays in a row or series it's just kind of what are they like because you you take say you're playing Northwest you have nine game break down Northwestern this is what they've done for their last nine games what as you go into the really first second third series of a game is what we saw in the last nine games actually happening in this game and if it is then we're

4:24:07pretty solid in terms of our game plan if not then you may have to morph a little bit towards run or a little bit towards pass based upon well how they decided they were going to come out this week because they may have come out in the previous nine weeks and done this but in your game they're doing it a little bit differently so it's the ability to make those adjustments and kind of lean one way or the other you know I think it's the discipline part you're talking about not just saying well we're just going to chuck it you know but if if if they're playing really deep and you're still trying to throw it deep then that's that's not smart either you know okay you just want us to throw it every time yeah that's fine you're not a whatty haze guy then huh yeah well come on you can't go both ways okay see you're not a bear brank guy yeah yeah when you walk into a place like Wrigley Field you seem to have a feel for history and stuff and Gail Sayers ran there you know Dick butt just played there yeah most people don't take their all played and sold your field and

4:25:10stuff do you think about that kind of where you are I will Friday because we're actually you know to the stadium and get a chance to kind of look around and see what it looks like but does that end to that oh yeah it always does I mean I love whenever we were wherever I've been when you get a chance to go playing some of these iconic stadiums and players that you saw when you were growing up and play here it's that's always a really cool part about what we get to do but yeah that'll be it'll be fun I think everybody's excited about playing the Scandals Wrigley all right thanks guys you know just more so let's get off the ball we're kind of impacted working with Brian Young this past week half but defense line as well I met a big impact BYU you know obviously a old bit you know we went back to the basics just on technique footwork just to fundamentals and I think that definitely helped prepare this for the game. Did Reels rotations on the defensive line different this week just getting maybe maybe more plays to see

4:26:13what's the other set of kind of rotating wall? Yeah it was more so you know six plays if you guy gets tired just rotate out but a cool rotation and definitely helped us stay fresh even that last drive during the fourth guys we was just a lot fresher able to rest the pastor so I feel like it benefited us. Is there also just a like I don't know just like getting in the big game flow when you're not where you're kind of subbing in now? Yeah sure you know you can get more into a rhythm yeah definitely. Cam up, Cam up with that sack in the fourth quarter that I don't know if it pushed him out of total range but obviously missed the fowl right after that like Cam's obviously a leader on this team when he makes a big play like that like how much maybe does that give a boost of a adrenaline to the defense. A big boost because you know that's you know that's OZ cam you know that's that's been his cam right there you know all you look at him just smile but it was a it was

4:27:15a big boost you know definitely makes you get on your horse a little more and just keep your head down and keep grinding throughout the game. That's key and prestige the way that he's kind of accepted his role this year you know he's not playing as much as he used to but obviously in him kind of just embrace that and does it do anything for you. Yeah I mean I've been learning a lot from Cam especially technique wise you know I would ask him about just you know how I would look at his old film and ask him about you know what was he seeing and you know during this particular play but I think he's a he's an awesome leader he welcome me and my open arms come here and you know that's my guy. Yeah we're when like some really long time stands up front of the team so I would play it up to my own expectations like I will be better for the play. What does it mean when when somebody hits me in the stat with a lot of people grew up watching him. Yeah I mean T5 he

4:28:16had do man I mean you know every game make them be your best game that's the lead you know but he came up clutch with a pick I mean you know regardless of it all he always finds the way to get the interceptions on the high key doing it but he definitely I smiled at that too it's like you know I watched him high school really just his whole career so it's a it's harder to be planned with. Rizzie talked about kind of changing some things every now and then to make key-grat body uncomfortable what's the value of that from a player perspective. I think just in terms of you know staying uncomfortable things that mental aspect you know going through a game you know things may not go your way just being in that uncomfortable state and always having the will to push them fight through. How have you seen the changes with the benefits rather of those changes that you all make this week I mean like from practice that's a role to your position

4:29:21yeah I mean I think we can see it you know during the game we we just watched film I even know myself during the run I was just in my hand placement was a lot better you know because we just refined a lot of the smaller details that B.I felt like we needed to to fix so I think it's paying off. And you also talked about confidence a minute ago from you all side of the ball obviously up there bigger eyes on y'all in the past week how much was the confidence boost from what do you get from this win. Oh a lot I'm a lot I feel like we uh the whole week you know we was talking about finishing and I felt like we did that you know we we we we kept our heads down and we went back to take we're back to the basics the fundamentals technique hand placement you know that lean that you have to have and you know just refining the small things and it all paid off so it's definitely confidence boost. How would you describe Peyton Turner from your from your time with him watching

4:30:23him through training camp and then having a bigger impact on his class weekend. Yeah now Peyton great player great teammate you know that's that's a that's I think guy the team I grew closer with but a great I mean he's a great player he's a hell of a hell of a guy. You know you know you know he's been he's been doing you know everything right I mean he's been you know bouncing around um he's been you know physical out of adversity as well but I mean he's he's prevailed and he's been doing a great job leading and stuff like that being a younger guy himself for him to step up and take their roles been huge and only for me but for our entire team and our for our unit and so for him to continue to take those steps is you know it's going to be really important to those offices and be or throughout this uh season through this off season because

4:31:26we have a really long season coming up um like we know we you know it's going to take everybody um and last year really showed that so I think that leadership not only coming from you know like a couple guys but from the entire group and it needs to be so important because we're at like said we're gonna need everybody. We're playing for a while that you become a starting left guard that you move back to center and you become the starting zone and actually to yeah just I know you already answered a little bit with a place question but what a world in my street came out on top yeah as you reflect on that what comes behind yeah I mean just how blessed I was um just you know continuing to come at blessings I mean um I never thought you know that would be the case you know I know going into Penn State with coach for I was like I never played but you want to give her shot and I was like shoot why not um and through that you know I couldn't be more blessed and then from uh taking over after Steph got her Steph got injured and being there still coaching me not not just like taking a back seat and working on his NFL journey um but he really sat you know sat back and held me out was a blessing as well um being able to play with guys like um with two first-round picks um and three all Americans and Josh Farrish would have been

4:32:31all Americans to really for all Americans it was really um you know such an honor to me and be able to play with those guys I just been blessed to play with a lot of really great people. Coach Jason talked about you know Austin's development and how quickly kind of he flipped the switch after title game how motivated he was when did you kind of see him flip that switch that you talked to him at all like that the motivation he had to get better and play a big role this season yeah you know you mean pigs always a really intense guy I mean especially when you know uh we're doing um any offseason training or something like that like he's definitely got that gets people going um he's a really strong guy really competitive and so for him to just kind of um you know unravel a little bit more of that um and just kind of like uh bring that raw emotion I think to what we do has been really um just fun to see um and I think it's kind of like a culmination throughout the entire offseason from winter training to summer training to now and he's just continued to um settle the incline on that um they're really great leadership um so the long way to go but I think he's been doing a really great job in learning um this capability is in what he's uh able to do for the group yeah it's been awesome and to work with

4:33:43guys like I said before like the Charles has been like awed like probably one of the great splesings I've been able to have throughout the last seven months I mean um through um what he's done for me through what coach bowin has done for me coach dicky coach johnson um all those guys guys it really helped me out uh to become such a better player than I was um has just been really important just so I can like narrow down on what I um need to do because you know as a center you kind of need to be able to play all three positions and um getting comfortable like in my body posture and um and stance and um how I drive off the ball and stuff like that is important not only for center but for everything so um I've just been blessed with the opportunity and people honestly what did you learn mentally to kind of help your game bro yeah and I think you know from being in those huddles being with I mean even with great leaders like well-houred and stuff like that I found that we always play the best when we can play fast and we're having a lot of fun um I think

4:34:43we play really really hard when we're having fun with each other um I think when we kind of have that mindset of we're gonna burrow down and um you know it's us against you know whoever um it's us collectively our unit um against um whoever we don't want to you know line up across from us I think that's when we got our strongest mindset and collective uh force together and I think um playing with Donnie and playing with Josh Fyre and Jot or Jimmy and uh and Seth and uh you know all those guys in the past and stuff like that they've taught me that um you know physically we can be really capable of uh for mentally all together like we're um pretty hard to deal with of course you're gonna be like the biggest difference between a center who's getting ready to start the first time in his life and a center who's been through the battles and has a bunch of experience yeah uh I mean a center who has a lot of green mind as he goes out there and he he's really just hoping he just doesn't mess up he's hoping you know uh this now gets a quarterback he's he's hoping on a lot of stuff you know he's not really uh dictating anything he's not he's not going up there and um deciding it was like okay I'm gonna give this guy two options or um I know

4:35:48I'm watching a film I know the tendencies of this player I've played these guys before um I kind of have a feeling of what this decordinator can do or what he likes to do just from learning from different experiences and different coaches um so just being able to go up there now with experience is huge um I didn't think I knew how valuable experience was um two years ago um and I still have a lot of experience to get yet I think in my experience or in my journey my career but um so far I think um the experience has been you know invaluable for me uh just from those past two years so now yeah yeah I'm I'm excited um I was looking up a bunch of like uh trash talk in German uh forum just so just so the ref doesn't get us on a couple you know but uh no I'm pumped actually uh it's it's me fun to see him I mean I'm hitting me and him you know I've been best friends for the past couple of years living together um and so it's been you know it's a blessing to be able to go and play up against him and I don't I don't really know where he's playing at right now I guess position wise specifically but um wherever he's at I'm pretty excited for a double TMI I'm

4:36:52and hopefully roll him over a couple times I think you can repeat like you learned in the future but I think you can do it German uh I really just um call a pommelist which is like chubby this really good easier um I'm kind of the type to like just kind of keep moving forward and we'll celebrate after but a lot of the guys were talking to me about it whenever we'd go it was pretty cool I don't know if y'all saw we had like a little tent on the sideline because it was like hot so yeah our equipment team did a really good job with that so it was kind of a cool vibe because you couldn't really see like the fans or anything it was like right over you it was it was cool and yeah I felt like a little huddle but uh yeah I don't know I didn't really let it I didn't want to let it get to me because sometimes what can happen is like once you start getting like numbers up like you'll kind of get satisfied be like oh okay like I'm kind of done for the game like I don't really need to when really you can get a lot more so yeah I don't know I think it was the first drive was I had like 1.5 and yeah and yeah so I mean like the second most in a game in Carolina history like the only one who had more was Julius Peppers like yeah you don't seem like

4:37:57somebody who would get to who's too excited about that but yeah yeah yeah I didn't even know that obviously uh until after the game and that that was pretty cool would have been nice to get one more but yeah it was that was pretty cool hopefully all of uh some more opportunities to do that so yeah yeah it was it was pretty cool yeah you have taken some heat for your celebrations not yeah yeah use the biweek to refine any no I mean especially like I'm sure you all saw the video that they put out with like yeah that was that was pretty funny um I think honestly at this point I got to like stick to it now like now that I've like there's a name for itself yeah but honestly it's pretty because like I've basically like since I mean you can ask like my parents like since I was in like middle school I've I've never like been like soup like I just get really excited and I just like start like flexing out like since I've been like 11 years old I've always done that and yeah there's like a ton of high school pictures of me doing it and yeah that's just what I've always done so it's pretty funny I think a big positive for that celebration is like normal people

4:39:00in the stands can do it yeah which is not the case with some celebration yeah yeah like even I could do the both flex yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah there we go yeah but I like the way he doesn't like he doesn't stand over the quarterback he's just celebrating like dude he just act the quarterback it's time to both flex yeah have you heard from either both flex or bow jangles are from the Carolina I have not I mean I haven't I guess I haven't done a great job of reaching out but yeah I probably shouldn't let's go well they should call you yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah if I can't buy the bow meal at Keenan Stadium by Saturday at 8 p.m. do you like the Bose Sackinson it's kind of hard to do yeah yeah I like it I like it um that's actually interesting because uh came in actually was the one who made that up last year like our first game last year we played South Carolina and I had like two or one and half or something like that and so came and was calling me that last year too so it was pretty interesting to see like the

4:40:03origins of that yeah just need a little momentum yeah yeah exactly that exactly okay you've legally agreed to give us 10% of anything were you impressed jealous or something else which Javari ritzi's pick six against Virginia oh no that's that I mean I'm sure y'all saw the clip too like that was all him like there was literally like a shallow pat like it wasn't even like a screen or something the shallow he like tipped it up caught it and then Heisman the quarterback while holding the ball like a loaf of bread in the other hand and like I don't know he's a freak for sure so I mean that was just straight impressed there I don't know I haven't had an interception here and I don't know if I had any high school either so really yeah that was that was pretty sick to see him doing that and then like running down the field next because I was on the field at the same time yeah yeah were there any moments where you wondered if he was gonna run out of gas honestly no just because I like I mean doing like the workouts the whole summer with him like he's a three-tack but like he's

4:41:04not really because like he's just so free like he's big enough to do it but he's also so athletic for his size that yeah now he's a freak for sure all right tell us a little bit about growing up young bow tell us a little bit about your background oh um I started playing football when I was like seven or so my dad played college football at Yukon and my mom played college volleyball at Yukon so they were both there and so I always was around athletics pretty much my whole life we were like super competitive like anytime we get in trouble we'd be doing like push-ups and that stuff and I remember when I was like five years old like we'd have a game we're like my dad would sail the catch and we'd like go back basically doing like one-on-one like playing receiver in DB versus I have two brothers and sisters so very competitive household I started playing football when I was like seven or whatever mostly because my dad played football into my older brother I don't know I'm not sure if you're all familiar with the like the pop-worn or superbowl

4:42:06stuff where you like you go to or lando so my older brother had done that a couple times so after that I was like okay I definitely want to start playing football started playing my dad was my coach and then we end up doing the same thing we went to Super Bowl twice since seventh eighth grade and then from there is history high school football where do you fall in the siblings so I've one older brother me younger brother younger sister what's the game most likely to cause a fight if y'all are all playing oh definitely basketball my little brother was a very big uh he was quite the referee during some of that stuff and he'd always get mad and like call penalties and yeah definitely I don't know we played a lot of basketball we also we had like a our neighbor had like a football it wasn't it was just like a their front yard was like kind of like curved so we'd like play football on that every time and like you could throw the football over the house for like the deep balls and nice it was cool but yeah no we played we we were always outside growing up the whole time would

4:43:06you beat your little brother up um so it was kind of a thing where like he'd start ref it like and it would give me really mad and then like I'd like chase up to him and then he'd like kind of like be like what's that animal that like plays dead uh oh a possum yeah he'd be like a possum he'd just lay down on the ground and then I kind of like get over him but like I would never actually do anything because like I don't know I didn't want to like actually hurt him and like have him go tell my mom or something yeah exactly but uh yeah so there was a lot of that going on I'm sure he could tell you more but yeah you you were academic all ACC last year yeah and you're in the business school yeah both those things are no joke how do you manage your time to do all these things successful hmm it's a good question um I don't really know you just kind of I feel like if you care about something you can make time I'm not sure I've always been like a very big math person my whole life and luckily for the business school here that was like the big criteria

4:44:08like you do the calculus and the stats and the e-con so that was kind of right up my alley uh I've not passed my yeah and then also having like good friends to be around like I'm sure you know Will Hardy and Connor are both in the business school with me too so like we kind of been on the same track our whole career which has been pretty cool and been nice to have like other people around you to help you get better and stuff so yeah that sounds like a very intelligent household you guys have yeah you guys just like Friday night or or Saturday night after the game everybody's like out and you're like guys look we got some e-con we needed to celebrate like normal with calculus yeah I guess so I guess um what do you like to do outside of football hmm outside I've recently I've gotten into fishing a lot more which has been we uh my girlfriend has a beach house or they live at their actor from Morehead City and so I went fishing with her dad and stuff and it was

4:45:10really fun um I don't know we're I like to do very spontaneous things all the time I'm sure I can talk to y'all more about that later but I don't know yeah we I don't know me car will do a lot of uh interesting fun things I don't know we played a lot of uh pickleball and that kind of stuff I don't know we did like a whole scavenger hunt one time it was funny I don't know do a lot of stuff like that but yeah fishing with the girlfriend's dad can be some pressure because like you want to do well but not too well how did you handle that um I it was kind of he's he was legit legit but he's lived his whole life I was not legit um I caught like maybe two fish the whole time but it was fun it was sometimes like the great thing about fidget is kind of like more of like just being out there and like the peaceful vibe was almost better than actually catching sometimes so I thought that was pretty cool you set up a scavenger hunt like well I'm well actually Connor

4:46:16will set it up and then he just like randomly like so like me and Connor were roommates will was not at the time and they just like randomly like put a note card outside my door and then me and cade law yeah yeah and uh we had yeah they just did a whole spontaneous scavenger hunt and yeah it was it was fun it was very cool day like um it was yeah it was at like six p.m. or seven p.m. and we finished at like 10 p.m. but yeah there was so even in acting yeah yeah it was it was it was fun though it was very very creative by car well yeah so there had there's been a lot that has happened with this team this year both on the field and off the field yeah how how have you guys tried to manage all of that means just it's a lot to happen to people yeah yeah how have you guys tried to manage that maybe individually and together yeah I think it's definitely uh everybody handles it a lot different I mean just a lot of different especially like obviously all this stuff with

4:47:19tiley can be very tough um for me I just tried to keep focused on my goals and trying to individually work to get better like and focus even more on football and in school and stuff and uh I don't know for other people I think I think that's kind of like the mindset of the whole team is just we want to move forward and in the right way and I think that biweek was very important for us to kind of like take a time out reset mentally and lock back in and I think that showed pretty well these past two weeks you're talking about that first biweek yeah the first biweek what's the best advice you got during that time um hmm I think kind of just that like just focus on what's important and like not let the outside noise uh affect you too much and almost like just shut your ears off to the outside noise and just focus on the next thing ahead of you and coach monokina talked a lot about um like you know you have like the high beams on your cars and like just turn the high beams off just focus on what's in front of you right there and yeah I think that was pretty good advice he seems like

4:48:24a really good coach to me have have you enjoyed working with him now he's awesome he's awesome yeah what is what what is that relationship been like what what has been beneficial for you um what's been beneficial he's just his the amount of knowledge he has is is pretty insane obviously he's in the NFL for a long time and coach some pretty dang good players um but just like being able to watch film with him and be able to look at different tells or he does a big like run cut up every week for what the team's main runs are obviously like this week we were playing like week force and they do like the big mesh stuff and so I don't just like little details that a lot of people don't tend to see that we can look closer as yeah he helps a lot of that um coach brown has talked a lot about and this has been a heavy topic for a lot of you're particularly with the defensive like about rotating you guys in more so that the amount of snaps that everybody plays isn't as high at the end of the year so maybe instead of playing 70 plays early in the season somebody's playing 40

4:49:26or whatever do you think that's been beneficial like can you tell a difference do you think your teammates and your fellow defensive lineman can tell a difference um I mean there's definitely a big different I think last year I was averaging like 15 snaps if that a game and then now I'm these past few weeks I've been getting like 30 something so for me I mean I can't speak to the fact of like playing too much and then like your body hurting because that wasn't the case for me last year but I'm sure that like guys like came in and days probably feel that a lot more so being able to stay fresh is a big thing because like I don't know like say like you're playing the game for 60 plays and like they're like throwing the ball and you can't even put your best stuff on film really because you're tired and your gas that doesn't really work well for anybody like so like playing more plays is not necessarily equal more production how it's uh defending that slumash feels like it would be tough yeah what's what's one or two things I can look for when I'm watching on Saturday that'll help me try to be able to figure out what they're doing the thing coach Collins has talked

4:50:30about it's just like penetrating like if you sit there just sit on the block and just let them do their thing it's gonna put a big bind on the guys in the back end and uh because like they have to play the run and the pass that whole time so for us just being able to penetrate and uh we have some really big strong defensive tackles so the quarterback will like step up really far when they're riding that match so for them to be able to get through the line and get in the quarterback's face and again like with him stepping up like getting your hands up was a big thing too but for us on the edge is just getting off the ball and trying to get to him as fast as we can that's a big thing putting the pressure on them versus letting them dictate us that's that's probably the biggest thing I'd say all right three weeks left in the regular season yeah it feels it just feels like a different team I don't know how else to say like what what in your mind is kind of the mindset of these last couple of weeks and what do you think will be important for you guys to continue to to play well

4:51:32yeah mindset wise I don't know I think I think we're just starting to focus on like the little things even more and just completely buying into that and then um I don't know everybody is since since summer workouts we've always talked about uh like we break everything down on champions and like we want to be the best thing that we can be and I think now we're kind of like getting towards that point and just finishing this year like going three and oh in these last three weeks I don't I feel like that's very important to everybody and everybody's pretty bought into that back that's my like a vocal time I feel like I'm talking about this you know just recently talking about how what I want to do for the world is I want to bring that energy bro right so last year um of course I'm sure you're doing for years but the year when I spent on him he brought a lot of energy excitement and happiness in the room which is his natural energy

4:52:33to where I always have to focus on me you know I didn't have to make sure other other guys are you know feels the type of way when it came in here because hump brought that now the hump's not here but I saw a way different room I want to be that guy to make sure it's an amticle practice everybody's high more taking a built team on period you know it's a low day or something you know it's a different but like I want to make it feel like yeah pairs the trip I want to bring that because that's what we at hump did with each other who hide each other things like to probably get walked or flipped so I want to do that when I bring that energy I want to make bring more guys um you know I want to do that from day one you know I kind of have I want to do that from day one um um um I'm talking to him and obviously it's the time I spend the half season before I'm getting started um just being in myself just thinking about what the room needs you know

4:53:34because I don't know I do do well as one of leaders you know my offense is that we need a guy like that is going to make sure the O-line is picked up ready to go every day I don't have a time of little things don't happen to practice people aren't saying anything and how I made it maybe different than somebody else made it like to practice at least like the legal positivity you know I mean so but he the energy yeah would be on just though hyper the beyond so I was kind of how I did go on um really my whole life I felt team captain like specifically and I felt I wasn't captain in high school wasn't a captain in college but I'm gonna make a joke around the high school so I feel like I'm not gonna be captain like it's that I felt yeah um but that would be awesome you know but you know that happens I'd be great but not either way I want to assume a role as a captain from the perspective of

4:54:40the guys onto the visual world and get back in that way yeah I mean I can't say that um I mean I guess the biggest thing is that I felt like how you used to in the past but it didn't take just the first LTAs it took training left and right once this season because I know what it was going to be shared so it took a lot of reps just to get back to feeling like myself for day one LTAs and then that whole first week but now like today specifically just changing some small things with my feet that is it talking about the long coach about some things I'm doing my feet to get to that to sell my nutritional angle that I love to sit on I thought I felt great already but I felt even better so I need more exercises tomorrow now I'm getting my feet back and how I like the right side and on the left side so alongside I mean obviously I feel like in the lead

4:55:41whether I left the right there's still going in premier guys obviously they're high expectations for the left and right tackle but um definitely like the level of energy and like the expectations definitely take the hands down because now can I get blind side that's the as the tackle world you know so yeah I would say in terms of communication as far as this even outside of the facility you just stuff like that like really creating that the tackle quarterback bond even more off the field I think has been something that's even done cool I got a text one day is I like you put it up I was like you know yeah I've been training both I've been training both you know I I asked after the season they're like honestly you know we'll talk to you some things in and I just got a text I have this with the free agency then so I was like you know I had a whole season right tackle so if I get the word I'm going I'm standing right tackle

4:56:45I'll just do what I did before I'm built on that but I saw I was trying to let tackle now as if we're going to be let tackle and I'd rather do that than train on right time we're going to call it you know what I mean so I'm like let me just prepare an advance I'll say yeah let's go you know I think occasionally on third down there be a lot of twists I was just not like it's automatic and I think that was my mindset for like the first half of the season like I didn't have to go once again with some pros like I said did that I kind of figured like okay this is this is the type of rush you know this is how this guy usually rushes if I get the vibe this type of ends like the rush you know tackles that first year guys we got the primary patch on already you know what it was going to be already you know we'll be every stud and honestly just knowing that's kind of an advantage to so you're not you're not you're not oh the brother twist on my side it was never air conflict but it come out the hot like three plays in a row in two minutes I do

4:57:47that it was going so you know what I mean I'm watching more everybody else and he rarely really really goes out there occasionally third down I was like you know what I mean so that effect it's kind of it's also kind of an engine but it's also exciting okay I'm gonna get the hardest look you know so the real real reps you know the things really out on our way to kind of process I was like I wanted to tell me let me know about my I'm just gonna train it I was training all left so TAs I guess if I didn't hear anything about TAs I came in like so you know what I mean because just like I'm cool training both continue I would have been cool training both continually but I feel like anybody any position will feel like okay like you want to as soon as possible give your feet kind of settle it your hips settle it your hands so then certain kind of

4:58:47that would have been harder to work both very good to you no no but they're definitely but in terms of the development it's definitely a lot faster to stay on all one side but I think having that the weeks that we had to transition with the seasons over and like was fine you know good time we're trying to get up with it when it comes back I'm gonna show him the one house I've got a house not too far from so I told him I got that house like I got a yellow outside DJ you know I mean so yeah track you know it's actually like you can you know catch his feet under him you know I always think when you're rookie season you're going from bowl game I don't know what's constantly the bowl game sorry Wisconsin I don't know but you know personally I just think

4:59:48when you go from bowl game to training for the combine to you know rookie minicamp OTA is the you know many can I mean to train the camp the regular season you really don't get a time to really catch yourself you know you understand to play book now you can be more vocal you know I think with my absence the other guys have since you know you need guys like that to step up and be ready for those opportunities you know they're the same you have during the seasons or what we just tighten down everything you know my left side because I was over compiting a little bit but you know it was it wasn't anything that's lingers you know I'll say a groin's not like an ACL it's not like anything's ever going to get affected again and you know you know feeling good able to do everything squat and heavy with power and speed so you know it feels good to get after you know what you think of what the team was able to accomplish your softhees in terms of bringing guys like wrestling and things like that you know I think they're

5:00:51all good acquisitions but you know you never want to be known as a paper champ so can't win the off season I think the work gets done out here on the field gets done in the classroom it gets done training you know and then you see where you're at in training camp and then you build on that you know I think we got the right guys in the building it's just about putting a complete team on the field. Can't have technicalism to separate the business part of the game the actual whole thing. You know you always want to you always have to treat it like a business because you know one day it's going to end and that's been a job it's not like in college where you know you got four years guarantee well now you don't even know what that I am I don't know it's crap the transfer portal portal but you know you have to I still have love for this game and I still work my tail off and I still put everything into it and that's not going to change but

5:01:57you have to know what you bring to the team and what you're what you value is. Can't be able to be out there with your teammates today emotionally. Great you know we got a new got a new training staff and still learning the warm up a little different but you know I loved it you know just getting after it learning new guys going through the same drills I've been doing by myself I actually like having more people around because like kind of go stir crazy when it's just you and another guy you're like damn I gotta go back up for another rep already and so you know it's nice to be up here and get a chance to be with my guys. Can we confident we'll get done with your emotion. Oh I'm gonna try to remain pretty neutral because I want to be to either way. All I know is I want to be here but we'll see what happens. This is my last year here. I've had a great career here but I look forward to playing next year.

5:03:02In what that second surgery you said at this time was on the left side was the first time around on the right side. Right side during the season left side and that was just tightening down my quarter my core muscle. It wasn't the same as my adductor. You know you can ask Dr. Bradley, Dr. Zuckerbron who did the surgery as well. You know if anything it's gonna help me and you know make me a lot stronger from here on up. You said you were training with another guy who have you trained with him? Tyson I've been training with him for the last eight years. We've always trained together. We got a trainer up north. Shout out Cole Haley. He's my guy. He trained trained trained a Heath Miller, Brent Keesle, multitude of guys at all respect. And we've just been getting after. Can we do very few guys historically at 35, 35, big contract and who that's held against you? I think there's not a lot of history behind it but you know for

5:04:05me I look as I'm not looking to be like anybody else. You know my game is different from everybody else in the sleep. You know I like to think I can play the run in the past and that's where I'm different. You know I remember last year Mike T just brought to my attention you know the thing that's really cool is you watch powerlifters and you know my game's built on power and technique and those guys go into their 40s and so you know that's what kind of research I'm doing the high-end scenes but you know I will see what happens. There's not a lot of history but I'm here to make history and I'm here to you know I want to know there's a reward here and you know have a great season. Do you have a set goal for yourself or how many years you want to play in the NFL? You can just take things here right here. You know it was it was top answering that question right after the season. I will say this guys I can't keep answering that question right after the season. That is not fair to the season that's not fair to my family. You know but in my mind I got three

5:05:10years and I want to maximize them. I want to play at a high level and I want to go deep into playoffs and you know we got a good team and I'm going to do my part to be ready for all those situations. You've planned on the Racketson when you play for the trophy. It's a possibility that you might fold in and of course the issue is that I have not even thought that far. I've taken a day. I told my agent and we talked about it and we were cool coming out here. I'll be here for many and then I'll be there for training. I don't know what the work entails but when we get there we'll cross that bridge. Why would you work for a minute steel work for years? You know there was a conversation between me Omar and my team and there's certain guys that are one helmet guys. I want to be one of those one helmet guys and you know there's a hunger and

5:06:11desire there but that doesn't mean just hanging it up and calling a career. To me I think I got more bullets to fire and I'm excited to do that. What's the movie? The last one? The new in Russell Wilson are going to be out there with Walter Man. What's Walter Man of the Year? I saw Russ as a social media but I have been out of the chance to see it. I like the surprise happens when it happens but it's cool to have another Walter Man of the Year winner. I think it's an honor to be there. I'll say one thing. I won't be here. I'm just telling you guys so it's not a big deal. I won't be here because I have to do a Walter Payton Man of the Year thing on Thursday so it's not like I'm skipping. But it's an honor to be with Russ and it's an honor of doing things in the community. Doing great work and the cool thing is as much as we get honored and nominated for these things

5:07:17the work doesn't stop and I can see that with Russ this foundation. We had an event for our foundation and my mom was quick to tell Russ hey we need the partners somehow. I was like mom. Let's just enjoy the event but it's really cool to be a part of a lead group. All right thank you thank you. I appreciate the time. Since you guys are both Thurford finalists I'm wondering do you have a relationship with Noja Day at all and what are your thoughts on his game? He's a tremendous player. He's played really well this year. Watching his film he's made a lot of plays and they do a really good job on their defense but I don't know a person. Thank you. Our next question is going to come from Donovan Breachport. Donovan go ahead. I think he went through his question. We will go to Kurt Bowles. Hey Caleb I just can ask you about the Michigan thing. Texas obviously went up there and

5:08:23armored beat them and you all had your issues with them. You put his stock in that or was that Texas Michigan game just so long ago it doesn't matter at all. I mean at this point in the season it's one to go home so really whatever happens in the past doesn't have any stock or anything. It doesn't mean anything so we're at the play on Friday and that's really all that matters. We're going to take two more from zoom before turning it back. Our first one's going to come from Steven from Cleveland.com. Go ahead. It's the fun I'm sorry. Hey Caleb we've seen you were talking about the Ohio State Office the success that they've had. Obviously Jeremiah has been a big part of that. What's it been like this year going against him in practice and after doing that? Does it surprise you at all to see him having a success he's had as a freshman? No it doesn't bring any surprises. It was pretty easy to see the talent that he has and the blessings that God has put on his plate but it's always a challenge going against Jeremiah and the other receivers and

5:09:27Mecca and Cornell in practice and even guys like Brandon and his impression Rogers they do a great job bringing looks for the defense and create a lot of obstacles. I'll find a question from zoom is going to come from Dan Hope. Go ahead Dan. Caleb you've been had a lot of success against you guys when you played him at Alabama last year just what do you remember from going up against him last year and what can you learn from that game? Really smart quarterback knows how to operate their offense. Possible in the right places and then of course Archeason does a great job putting him in positions to win. All right back to you. Thank you Rob Aller. Columbus Dispatch. Caleb GT and Jack Land opposite side today is opposite off the field as they are on in terms of personality and just the people that they are. They're offices but they are also like one of the closest people I know they spend a lot of time together. They've come from different sizes of countries so

5:10:28they're different people for sure but they're both really great people are really great men. I'm sorry I respect both of them. I'm not going to do that I'm sorry I'm not going to do that. What else to do? I'm going to ask the Warren podcast throughout the season we would always see you on Wednesday nights you and Nathan would be some of the last people off the field. For the things that you're working on after a practice always the same is it a routine what are the things that you're hoping to get out of those extra moments after practice? It's a routine pretty much the the keys that we need to go into the game with and then also changes week to week on based on what our jobs are going to put us into doing so every week we go through the same things and then we add certain things that we do for the what the team that we play is going to ask us to accommodate. Bill we're bit of what's full on this dispatch.

5:11:29Yeah I already got one here. Oh okay Joey Gopman called us dispatch. Kelvin? When Texas uses play action and they can use play action in a fair bit what's what do they do well in those spots and what's the key for you guys in those moments with Quinn? They do a really good job with I candy and it creates a lot of challenges for defense in order to see if it's runner pass and to see because that's when they're going to take their shots too as well so really just having great eye discipline seeing the line and seeing what it's telling us so that's just what it does. Deep right Nick Walker Letterman role. Hey look you guys had a pretty good game plan for Tyler Warren when you guys play him you guys have another Texas has a good tight end and Gunnar Hound what do you guys kind of have to do to limit him and how do you think about his game? He's a really good player he makes a lot of plays and he has a lot of receiving yards this year so really just do the same thing we've done all year just be discipline in our responsibilities and if you're on him you got to make a play when it comes.

5:12:32Right one of the mandrelbillets. Clamondock how when you think their receivers is kind of a whole you know they spread the ball around a sense of what stands out about the way they can spread the ball around those different guys. A lot of really good athletes I play with Isaiah Bond last year who's a really great receiver a lot of speed and then all their receivers have made a lot of plays so I mean everybody has to be on that piece of you as if we're going to stop them and have a do a really good job. Fred Bro here Tim May and Letterman Role? Yeah Kale's but you moved up here and I don't have to tell you when you moved basically a year ago and stuff it was a little bit of a leap of faith because you know you know how many athletes are on this team get athletes to stuff but why didn't you really feel this defense come into its own and then then pass that man watching in the Rose Bowl you're recognition of what was coming seem to be on point did it feel like that I mean you personally. I think the defense has played really well throughout the season I think we've had games where we played

5:13:35better and games where we haven't put it all together but I think that's how all defenses are so I can't say there's a certain moment where I think we put it together but was your second party question. You seem really on point against Oregon about recognizing what was what was coming I mean you were really active out there directing and things like that did it feel like that I guess. I feel like as Luke said earlier the preparation that we put in goes into that and just feeling comfortable and what we're doing comfortable and what we're seeing with the other teams I feel like that's a that allows us to play fast and can me and Lakers to communicate to everybody else. Do I miss anyone's questions here Steve how long and 24 hours? Yeah Kale but you came to Ohio State to play for National Championship and there were a lot of ups and downs throughout the season just to be in this position the last four teams still live just you feel validated by that and did you always have faith that this is how it was going to turn out.

5:14:38I came to Ohio State to become a better player and to help the team be as good as it can be not to win a national championship not like that wasn't the only goal for me coming here really just wanted to be in the team and be with the brotherhood but it's a great feeling being in the final four and being with the team and everything that comes with that but it's a blessing to be here. And one final question Bill Reben what's the club is this bad? Yeah I did want to follow up when I talked just back to the game you say when they scored their first and second touchdown you were really hot on the sidelines what was what was your message to the team and you know that's a good offense they're going to score against most people why were you so hot? Really just because we didn't execute which let them score so we've done that a lot which is something we can't do in these big games and these games where it's winter go home so we got to make the plays when they come and get our competitive excellence as Coach Dases make the play where your numbers call. Caleb thank you very much.

5:15:41Hey everybody. What's your first level trying to get a bit like so far? Oh it's been good a lot of learning obviously just trying to adjust everybody just in this game and see where you fit in at but it's been good. Hey that's good at the game game action first time since playing in a bowl game how'd you feel? I felt good good good way to get your feet wet especially do it close to home here there's special to me so it was good I'm glad I glad to happen that way. You know what your family there? Yeah how do a bunch of family there I got to see a bunch of people so yeah good and that's great anymore. I guess not. Does it can't then think if you're doing something? I wouldn't think you know what I'm going to do. Well it's been good I mean just trying to just a different way of play different terminology different it's a whole different scheme so just learning how they want things done compared to how you used to do things is really the... What's it like being in that tight end room? Everybody's got that good skills to see. Everybody's different but y'all do some of the same things. Right yeah no it's a great room a lot of really good guys I've grown really close with a lot of those guys so everybody helps each other a really nice learner from Dalton

5:16:43breadin those guys I mean Dalton's done it for a really long time so he helps me a lot with things that really aren't coachable things you know I mean I mentioned how the family at the game but what about working out here at this high school you're still in Ohio that's going to feel good and I don't know if your high school's like this man it can't feel the close to a different name. Yeah I went to Lexington how it's about the eighth of the size of this place yeah this is not like my high school but this is a healthy place but super cool to be home and just be back and give you a little sense of comfort I guess for me especially being my way through as long as I've been. So I was a man in the kind of war around the city and you've been there you see a bunch of fuck out fans that have wanted to get your autographs and your picture going in here? I don't get I don't go out of the hole I actually went home yesterday I went back to the farm for a little bit which was great for a couple of days he did with my family and stuff and see my grandparents and everything so it was good but I really haven't been out enough to know so I try and keep her inside.

5:17:46Oh that's a good question I don't think that's for me I'm just trying to give I mean every time I think you can be as you can play this game for 50 years and there's always going to be something you leave to feel with like God I wish I would have been better in that area I wish it was better in some other you know what I mean like it's never going to be this is absolutely perfect so like to me that's right right now the hardest part of this is just mental toughness of it all I mean physical toughness I mean you either have out your don't my opinion so I mean I've always felt like I was kind of bred in that area with things and that's just kind of way happens naturally so just play that's kind of how we roll. I'll say good to you guys we gotta get you on the fun. It's just different man I can feel the difference out here when I'm running that $2.25 I feel like I'm running like a flash right now so yeah my speed I definitely feel quicker and more explosive just you know get out the ball and you know just continually working on my short area first as flinkly as possible. So do you want me to take this room? Oh you guys got that one. You know what I thought about the room is that we don't always be a brotherhood and always be at one.

5:18:47And what's been your experience so far here and versus the expectation? Obviously coming in there's an opportunity to play early really a lot of opportunities play a lot but how have you seen this place change you and has it been what you expected? I've been off the charts like just you know they developed me like from day one like since they stepped on campus we know workbaths we talked about my in habits where I need to get to my body weight what I need to improve on until you know development to NFL running back and have an opportunity you know to get to that level and just don't invest it into me as much as possible like day in day I'll invest a lot. Does it surprise you I think West Virginia is a powerful school very very the program do you see the difference quickly when you're getting a real place like last week? Definitely the resources around Ohio State you know if definitely you know have a we have a larger frame of resources around here so that's definitely one of the

5:19:47biggest things that I can say that's different than my favorite university. CJ when you were back in December before you even started talking to Ohio State what make you want to go and get a photo of the pictures? Are you going to focus on change? Is that primarily about the right? It was a lie and so you know you have to think about your family you and like what do you want to get out of this? This is my last opportunity you know guarantee I'm going to have a chance to play football because the mix of it is not promised you have to as you say earn that so I just you know I just took a chance of myself you know you got better than yourself in all times. Did you have any previous relationship with Coach Long? I don't know. Not at all. What kind of sit out from your personal questions? He said he's going to challenge me and help me develop until a great man and a player he didn't talk too much about football and all we talked more about personal life things. Is it helped to have seen you know like when Sean come in last year as a transfer I just took him back right away like this is that something you would rather than watch? Definitely you know I watch a Q game you know because he was that Ole Miss when I kind of jumped on the scene too I was a genius so I definitely like analyzed the game a lot and you know

5:20:49him just being on Coach Long I can see it I would say a big difference but you can see the little intensibles that he added on to him to help his game you know develop in that way to you know now I have an opportunity to be a high jackfick and then I say I just lost this track at 230 miles up and it's a 230-80s as you like so 230 what why is that? 226 actually. Why did you want to use the way he would? He wanted me to be more explosive and have a more short area burst that's something that I like in my game and he continued to challenge me to work on that game there. That's amazing you know he's going to coach him hard but he loves it and he does it because he's like he loves it you know he loves all of it like you go coach him hard he go push you and go hold your account and he does that because he loves us. What are your weaknesses overall and how have you been activating into the program? Amazing I got one of my great friends right here you know he kind of like you know that's big road he kind of like you know take me under his name tell you the things to do with what

5:21:50not to do you know because he was transferred just like me too so he tells me like they don't do that we don't do that here do this we do that here so you know just you know the family you know that I got other guys and team who I pre-souped against like Jeremiah Smith Brandon and his Kiyada so I kind of was like familiar with like a couple of those on the team and they kind of burned me around as a team as I was a transition to the program. He's the father of progress with a little thing he did to get this 226 to be utilized and you work out on some of the changes that you made to get to the last thing. He elested it's funny. The dietitian helped me schedule out a meal planning the times I need to eat what I need to eat what I need to stay away from the time I need to go to bed and stay on a routine that allows me to you know to change my type of sleep quickly and as how should I say this as quickly and as the like the right way of possibly that is like to sit down and make it like you know still working as so I could be a effective runner-back. Changing your diet like different groups. Was there a moment when you were like there was not one that you come to culture and was kind of

5:22:54a different member of the class or the team? Yeah, James Hick was you know he's great competitor when I first got here in the winter he pushed me band and day out. I still remember this. We was doing sleds and you know he was kicking my butt day in and day out but you know it has helped me you know improve my game and step up as a player and me to be. So you would ask what was it facing you? Maybe this is how I was doing the job. You know just the style of the honestly you know we we are more balanced you know we more like the NFL saying as you would say we do as our players effectively and these them to the best of their abilities. I was looking at some of your first round of the tournament and I remember the next to the 7-8 net boxes in the pop. I don't know if you've got caught that but was anything of your kind about wanting to go to office and have her balance and maybe you know kept defensive on us and you know we're doing the 7-8 box. I don't know I didn't even consider you. One of the higher players of the country was like 6% of the time. I didn't even expect you to tell me that.

5:23:55So whatever was James and Coach.