Press Conferences (Jeremiah Smith) Elite Edition September 2

0:00Before we got on the field, I mean Coach Day called it. He was like, we go call his play and you got to go get it. So already little balls coming at me. I just had to go and make a play. Over here to left bill, Rebinoids. Jeremiah, when you see man coverage, especially on a deep ball, what goes through your mind? I mean, Coach Hartlan always plays. You got to win first, man or man. So that's what I'm told you to do. And that's what I'm going to do with all of his manners. And I just got to go out there and win and catch the ball. Tim, I think, yeah. Jeremiah, I think 9 Kitches tonight was tied to your career. Hi. Yeah. Were you aware of that? But what does that mean to you if at all? Don't mean nothing to me. You just got to continue to go out there and play football as well. All right, last question for Jeremiah Dan Hope. Jeremiah, you had said last week that you were excited to see what Bo Jackson was doing. Let's do it. See him go out, have a game he did tonight. I mean, how much of that excited you? Yeah, I mean, I've been saying it like I said. I mean, Bo Jackson is that guy. And you go see more that throughout the rest of the season. Great. Jeremiah, thank you very much. I mean, to truly plan as much. So I just wanted to get more experience under my belt.

1:02So I can bring younger guys with me because I've been through a lot of it. One of those younger guys we're seeing out here. It's the first time I scored all of your last years. What have you seen from Will? Because I kind of go like, I should have real forgot about him because he was hurt. Now he's running almost a second man out of the eye. And tied. What have you seen in the memories of Williams? Will is a workhorse. He's going to stay quiet. He's going to work hard. And that's all I love about him. He focuses. He don't really talk much. He's going to get the job done. Do a job right. It rarely has any mistakes. What would be a successful season? A national championship? A ring. When all the games we don't want to lose anything, we got a mindset that we can't be beat. We just got to go show it. That mindset, different. Seems like you guys expect a national championship every year. This year, even more so. Because it all come back for this. That's all decided like an opposite. Does that feel the difference? Or is there not really any difference? It's just the same work. It's definitely a difference. Everyone working harder.

2:03We noticed our last run. Most of us don't have any years after this. So we got to go bigger, go home, and we're not trying to go home. It's going to be a finish big. We know what you guys think of Michigan. But when you look at what they did, they won the national championship. And you guys took them down to the final minute, right? You know what I mean? I mean, you were right there. Something goes a little different. You guys could have won that game against them. Does that tell you anything about like that, hey, you guys want to win a national championship? But you played to the 59th minute with the team that won the national championship last year, like you're that close. So I'm saying, we just work harder. That's kind of a coach makes a saying, you know, nobody cares, just work harder. Like those, you know, when we played Georgia, it's the same thing. Last play, you know, they went on the win in 90. So we just got to get over that hump at the end of the season. I think we'll be fine. How frustrating is that? You're that close against the last two national titles. Of course, as you know, it's frustrating, but you can't change the outcome. You can't really dwell on it.

3:06You just got to, you know, come back and work harder. Do things better than you did last year and hopefully the outcome will change. Is that as you get older, you kind of learn. I thought I was working hard and then you always find out there's a little more you could have been doing? But definitely, I mean, that's how that's what growing up is basically in college. I thought, French, me, I was working as hard as I could, but now I look back at it. I really wasn't working hard at all compared to what I'm doing now. So just to learn anything. But for stamina, it's a 16. And the answer to like, what do you need it to be to be your best? Uh, 80, 85. I mean, I can, it's all on me. I just, I think it's a little higher. I was just trying to be funny. But I mean, it's all on me. I just got to run harder. Get in shape. It's time to add to you young. It's been a thing. Yeah. The idea of a potential is 16 and 17 and 17. Yeah. I mean, I've got that idea. There's a making. You know, it's about, can you last that long? You're really worried. I think I'm going to kill that up there.

4:06I think we, I definitely can last. I was just, you know, we got to get the young guys to come along with us. We can't play 50 snaps of game. That's just too much on our bodies. Uh, just everybody. Like online, we got to get those younger guys to play, you know, get that pieces on the D line and the online and everywhere else. So we can last that long. Speaking of that, I'm not going to snap. Did you like playing that movie snap to me last year? I don't know if any of us were really expected to play that movie. Ah, yeah, I did. Unless we were like winning by like a lot. I thought like there are no moments you know, I can go sit down or something. But we're playing them big games like, you know, Notre Dame too, or North, those kind of games. Of course, I want to be because I know I can contribute. And I won't want to put that on anyone else when I know I can get the job done. What stands out about Kevin McDonald is he got a few guys in a second. Oh, yeah, definitely. K-Mac is a K-Mac animal. Y'all, you haven't really seen it yet, but in practice, he shows all the time. He's just, he's grown right now. He has to work, I think. He just has to get, you know, in the playbook and things like that.

5:08You guys are about the exact same size. Listen, you're both listening to 6th or you're 327. He's 326. Yeah, he's a real guy. I kind of look at him like my junior, but you know, K-Mac, he's going to be a great player. He's got to develop more and get into playbook. So really a lot on you, older guys, there's that large group of young guys. And then there's these seniors in the back. Is that part of your task for this year to bring those guys along as well? Yeah, definitely. We got to be leaders. Like I say, we got to have them play this year. We can't just play all the snaps. They got to get in there and get some work. And we got to get them right during the off season. So they can play. And I just play, they want to like contribute, like make plays, tackle, sex. It stays out of our hands, right? It seems like these guys get bigger. Each one of the freshmen class is a bigger, bigger. And those guys kind of, there's going to kind of why you want to solve the first. Yeah, they definitely need some big dudes. And they all work hard. I've only seen much of some of the day too when I'm passing on. But throughout the workouts, they've been working hard, you know, they're determined. I can say that.

6:09It looks like they're ready to work at me. I think that's important, though. It feels like there's a lot of great defense. You have big athletic defensive tactics. You can eat up space, but also move, you know, right? That is that. Is that an inquire that maybe through great defense to have guys like you that have some ball, but also a great team? I think that is definitely. I think if you look at the last couple of national championship winners, like team of Northe, you know, they got two good, uh, detaco, two athletic detacles. Look at Georgia, two athletic detacles. So I think that's definitely neat if you want to go on that big run and beat those big teams. If you think about that, they're going to find by the defense attack. It's like, what's Georgia? Jordan Davis and Daniel Carter. Let's miss you again. Chris Jenkins. Couple more questions. You might as well find out how, I mean, you understand it because you play it, but I feel like some time I don't know. Are people realizing how important defense tackles are a little bit more than they used

7:10to? I think so. I think they're starting to develop to develop more and more of these like freakiest detacles. Yeah. Like in the combine, just now, you see in like those guys, they're moving four to four, seven, eight, and things like that. So we'll see. And when you think about those freakish attack attacks, how do you think you fit into that mold of that kind of player? You watch that and say, yeah, that's me. Yeah, definitely. I'm top notch when it comes to detacles, but I don't want to, you know, get a big head, but you know, watch it come on. I watch it do the drills. I have tape here. You're like, you're looking like my film. So I think I'm up there all the time. Do you become like an artist who comes into bad young classes? I think your legs can't be things. I mean, you're going to spring practice. You're not doing as much a weapon or the weapon. How do you work on that? Do you have like a goal? I don't remember how many times I've been doing this. I don't remember how many you had lied to you. You have a goal in mind. How many do you want to have? I mean, as many as I can have, I think I have more than that, but I think they've counseling. I think they've counseling some of them.

8:11And it's some of them where I just missed it. So, but I think we work on drills matching the hand. I think that's, uh, goes big. And, uh, what we do is a D line, you know, just affecting the quarter of that is anywhere you can. It's just great for the defense. You know, just that little thing you cover in his eye, you know, he might throw it. A little bit to the left to our player. So, it's something that you really, really have to work on. You're trying to do that. What you do in the past is, it's a theory that's one of the things that you've maybe worked on the most. You have to continue your time here because there are a few guys that I've seen. Like, oh, that past, you've got to do that. We don't have to ask for this. We're kind of, kind of, kind of expected for the physical. I think I just have like a, like, an eye for the ball kind of. I kind of just look at the quarterback and just, I see him like load up. I just try to get in his ways. And sometimes he just throws it to me. I don't know. I'm here at T-D-O-I-State quarterbacks. Get in your bag down passes. I mean, they get frustrated by, you know, we're a team, you know. We're just getting better. Yeah. Watch a lot of different backs, man. They just learn to grow for them. You got to pick your top three backs.

9:12You got to go right now. One, two, three. I don't really have a top three, but I'll give you one. I would say, say, quon, Gibbs, and... I like McCaffrey. Although he was injured this year, I like McCaffrey. Who's the best back in this drive? Best back in this drive. I lead out of the yard. That's y'all decision. Playing well with Howard. What I'm going to remember most. We're a Howard, man. He's just such a great leader, man. It's just like in moments where, you know, usually a lot of players they fold, man. He was just always calm and relaxed, man. And he just the leader that he was, man. That's one thing I'm going to remember about him. Yeah. Yeah. He's going to be really good, man. He's on Coach Lock. I think he got the transfer in as well from West Virginia. Just that one, two punch with them both as well.

10:13They're going to be really good backs. And so James people's, man, he's smart. The way that he goes about his business, man, he's mature. And so, man, he's growing, you know, just as a person and as a player. And so, man, yeah, definitely Ohio State, you know, that running back room is in great hands. I was right there, like that looking at the UFC spot and full of his confidence and personality. And I'm sure he'll keep that up until they can see me. Yeah. Coach, Coach Hartline, man. He's full of energy, man. And he's creative as well, you know. I'm just learning from him as well, you know. I'm trying to run more outside the backfield. It was being able to learn from Coach Hartline. And so he's definitely creative at what he does. And he brings a lot of energy to the team as well. And so I think they'll do really good. So, what's your intensity, man? Just intensity, man. And intensity of the playoffs, every game, man, is like the intensity got, you know, higher and higher. And so, you know, being able, I know in the lead, it's the same thing. Even if it's not the playoffs, just every game and the intensity, it keeps getting higher and higher.

11:15And so, yeah, you just, I know you got to bring it, you know, each and every day and come in and work. You just like Ohio State, you know, I definitely feel like Ohio State. They definitely do a good job of preparing us for that. You know, I just remember even before going through this process, I'll talk to a lot of players before that. And they told me a lot of just about how much Ohio State prepared them, you know, for the NFL. And so, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I know I took a couple days off after the national championship. And then, shoot, right after that, I'm writing sample Florida and I'm writing to it. And so, yeah, I think while I trained, I trained at your birth performance. I think it's called the House of Athlete or the Compound now. They did a good job, man. They're just bringing us in and the way they went about training us, man. They did a really good job. The Bucking Nears. No, I haven't. Temple, temple nice. It's a nice city, man.

12:16Really nice. 40 to broad and avert. You've been on the races, it's an awesome locker. Do you speak to your mentality of when you've got a linebacker or the gap? You're getting ready to swear a lot of things. Yeah. Yeah. No, man. It's really all about technique. And then, it's about mindset as well. And so, I say, you know, it's for the love of my brother. It's for the love of Will Howard. It's for the love of the receiver. It's who I got on the perimeter. Just making sure, you know, first of all, my quarterback doesn't get sacked. And I told Will, I think it was before the first game. I was like, I got your brother. It's, I said, man, I'm not going to let you get hit, you know. And so, I don't know if I gave up a sack. I'm not sure that. But I know if I did, I haven't given up too many. And so, man, it's for the love of my brother, it's no man. Making sure that the ball get in their hands, you know, the guys on the outside and making sure they get fed. I think so. You had to hit the practice field later today. What is something you'd be working on right now when you need to.

13:17In my game, you can't really work on this, you know, in all season. I feel like it's more so, you know, you got to put the pads on. You got to go through some inside run, you know, maybe. It's really just continuing to run through tackles. And so, that's, I feel like that's one of the areas in my game. You know, I want to continue to get better at it. I feel like I did a good job of that my senior year. And so, I just want to continue to build on that. So, you get to play. Yes, I did. Yes, I did. So, people, try to look like, I'll let it run out there. Get back in there and say, I can never do it. I did meet with New Orleans as well. I never got that comparison. Actually, I know I have a Camera shoe, yeah, man. I have a Camera, great, great back, man. Just what he does and those 101 matchups, he's dangerous, man. And he's so smooth. He's so smooth as well. I'm not going to lie. He's smooth. So, I just played with my first play in the Dome here. I'm not just usually playing here. I just want to see what's going on. Yeah. Inside zone from stack, being able to hit that thing downhill.

14:17And I'll say the next one is probably just an option route out of the backfield. You know, a man and man coverage, you're getting on that linebacker. And so. Yeah. I say the man, the biggest thing is the way that he carries himself, man. And the way that man, he approaches the game. He comes in with the mindset, you know, he's going to work every single week. You know, every practice, you know, he's working hard. You know, even shoot him. I don't know. Every good, I think he had a, every game was a good game for him, man. And so, but still, man, he always has the mentality to mindset that, you know, he's going to come in each and every day. He's going to continue to work and get better, man. And so he's definitely, man, he's going to be a special player, man. He really is. I think I'm going to be looking like John, you know, the girl I see in the air, coming from a one-star kid, you know, who knows who the victory is. I think he's a match to the champion, when he looked back on it, what do you like to stand down on? Man, a lot of ups and downs, man.

15:19It's just how you respond to adversity. And I feel like that's something that God has definitely helped me to do better. It's just, I'm not having something to lean on now. You know, I remember before I met him, you know, going through those adversity, I had nothing to run to, you know, you can run to people, but they still can't. It's not too much, they can't truly help you. You know, I feel like, you know, I feel like the only person that can truly help you is your relationship with Jesus Christ. And so, being able to lean on him, you know, he gives you, in those moments, where it's tough, you know, where it's slow. And when you're behind the scenes and you're going through things that people don't know about, he gives you that peace and comfort, you know, even in those moments, man, we're so hard that you can't explain. It's like, man, I'm going through this, but like, how am I still feel with this internal joy? You know, how do I have so much peace in this situation? And so, that's something that only Jesus Christ can give you. And so... You know, the back of the firm, Peterson Howard and Judge Alexander, which aspect to be to those other individuals that you want to follow and from being around Howard and Judge Alexander?

16:23Um, man, those guys have such a great mentality, man. I just really love their mentality, especially Q as well. You know, I talked about Will Howard, his leadership, but Quincham mentality, man. That boy just, yeah, that boy just gifted, you know. You see, you know, sometimes he put in a situation where he looked like, you know, he should have a negative five yards. And then as soon as you know it, you know, he, that running through somebody, still forming somebody and shooting this again to 10. And so... You some of the things that he does, he just realizes two different guys. Yeah. Um, shoot, I think... Yeah, man, I think it's just like, he's just gifted, man, too, beyond it. He's just gifted, you know, he's a big back, you know, he's strong. So, you know, he's able to do, he's able to do those things. And so, yeah, man, it's definitely, you know, I look at his game, and I want to, you know, at the same time, I want to learn from Quincham. You know, I want to look at his game and it's like, man, where, where can I get better at as well? You know, that's the type of player I am. I'm always looking to get better, man. I'm always looking to grow as a player.

17:23What's your last experience in the game? Juleen San. Oh, yeah, he's going to be a great, but he's going to be a great quarterback, man. He's so, so accurate. And so, um, he's definitely, man, I know Coach Dez is definitely going to get him right. Just, you know, um, container grow as a leader, container grow as a player. And so, he's going to be really good for a high state. I know just the quarterback position. I feel like, you know, the quarterbacks in the past, they've definitely been vocal. And so, I feel like that's something that they're definitely going to ask of Juleen San as well. It's to be that vocal leader and lead the offense and lead the team. Sure. Thanks, guys. Sure, man, he has, he has a build like JK Dobbins. And, um, I kind of see them, you know, similar, similarities in their game as well. And I know JK Dobbins, he was a great running back. I feel like he's not talked about his, no, um, a lot, but man, his career here, you watch his highlights is great. I remember, um, before I recruit, before I committed here, I remember watching JK Dobbins highlights like every, every, um,

18:26one of his years here, like four or five times. And so, man, he was such a great back. And, um, I feel like, you know, when I see JK Dobbins, when I see, um, James people, I see similarities to both of their games. I feel like they play the same. And so, appreciate you all. Yeah, I'll be going. This. This.

20:26I'm going to be a little bit more up there. I'm going to be a little bit more up there. I'm going to be a little bit more up there. All I got coming in, last shot, I knew the road, so I just tacked every day really the same way. I got a lot bigger, I'm like 240. I'm like 240. I'm like 240. Last shot, I played it like 236, 237. What does it feel like at 244 or bail? It feels like a different machine out there. What does it feel like to be running around out there? Like you are with more back. I just feel like I'm like like more downhill. It's better, it's bigger. Maybe that's not the correct term, but

21:28to think you're going to be playing much more than you did even last year, and you played quite a bit last year instead of what do you have to get straight in your head about being on the field that much more? I just got to get ready to just play 30 more snaps. How much are you looking forward to it from an 8-stand walk? I'm looking forward to it. I'm ready for it. The Texas opener is a rematch, but it's not really two different teams compared to the last time you all played and stuff. How has that enhanced this camp for you and this team getting ready for it? We're an opener of that magnitude. Yeah, with an opener like that, we've been emphasizing it a lot. We know we got coming, so we know we got to do it. We've been prepared for it. I think Riley ready to play right now. He advanced freshman, like he ended up here in the book. He stood in like he advanced, and his measurements was crazy. He saw it like a saw line too. You said you're ready. You know you're ready. What was that process like during last season?

22:29Could you feel yourself becoming more and more ready for whatever the team needed for you? Yeah, because that's pretty much what my role was. Just whenever I was needed, I had to step up. So I feel like that's what built me into me being able to say I'm ready for this year. When you say ready, is it more a physical thing? Is it a mental thing? When I say ready, I think it's pretty much like everything physically, mentally, mostly. I think I'm there. A different is that feeling this year than last season? That's the most possible. Oh, asked that one more time. How different is that response to that? That's the most possible thing to call that? If it was last season, you knew you were a role player. I feel like it's a way bigger responsibility. With me having to step up this year, but I kind of go about it the same way. Like last year, I was intentional with everything I did. I feel like this year is going to be the same thing. It's probably a little bit more. Somebody who's somewhere in the neighborhood. Somebody who's somewhere in the neighborhood.

23:29Somebody who's somewhere in the neighborhood. And what work? How's everybody worked here? I say... describe my game. When you think of me, you think of like a bully, like a silver bully. I'm really a bully. I'm always on the ball. That's how I like to play and think. No, I ain't got to be my nickname, but... Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's it. How does that fit you? And what are you enjoying about it? And that kind of stuff? I think it fit me because... I don't know, I just like the defense. I feel like we got... Like you said, we got a lot of freedom and we're moving around a lot. A lot of the terms is like, you know, I don't know. I don't really not answer that. That's okay. You can go on your instincts a little bit more, maybe.

24:29And it's not so thinking of too much. I don't even know if I say that because there's a lot of thinking going on. But it's like... It's like a pretty different day because I like what you got going on. What was it sad when CJ left the ring? Yeah. Now, I wanted to say that I was kind of like happy fun. Yeah, that's what you want. No, no. All right. That's my dog, I go say, yeah. Kind of missing a little bit, but yeah, I'm happy fun, though. Well, don't thank you. Go ahead, one last question. Coach Daze talked a lot about the guys who played some last year, but maybe weren't the starters and the hunger for... That wasn't maybe your national championship, you guys will win your own. How much do you feel that as a guy who certainly contributed last year? But we'll be in this bigger role and a lot of some of your classmates? Yeah, I do feel like... Yeah, I do feel like I did win a national election, but like you said, my role wasn't... Same as how it's going to be this year. So, yeah, I definitely want to go get another one. Experience that feeling with me, be on the field, a lot more place.

25:31Great. Thanks, I got it. Do you have set up more goals in the car now on stuff a little bit? More than he's probably comfortable doing? Was it easier to get out of your comfort zone and see that other guys were going to take that step as well? Yeah, like guys like Car now stepping off, it just makes me want to step up even more. I just leave the line and also leave the offense and then leave the team. Awesome. What is the battle been like with the tactics? And obviously, it could be four deep and then the obviously, I talked about the thing and then later, different to reality, just what's that been like? Yeah, so every day we're just working. We're always, Indie always pushing each other, coaches are always pushing each other. Same thing in the film, no medium. Would you guess if this time a year ago, you could be practicing to potentially be the starting left tackle right now? No, not even any tag I thought would be at guard, but just going out and trying to be the best player I could be. What are you trying to do with your experience playing guard?

26:31How do you feel like that's translated now to being able to be a tackle? Well, I don't have, you can translate the physicality from the guard and always have that the year, three or two line up across from you. But that's how I was a lot more space. And I guess having some good feet and coaches keep coaching me up. So I'll play that. Do you want to look at my goal? To blotching, not really. Do you have a position you feel most comfortable right now? Or is it just whatever they have? I mean, that's what I feel most comfortable. Have you enjoyed things? Yeah, it's fun. Do you prefer a laughter right now? Oh, it's whatever they have here. What would you say is that for people who have never done it? What is the adjustment when you move from guard to tackle? What are you working on? What's the differences? In the space, you had to know, it comes natural to me. I guess playing basketball in high school helps a lot. Having some good feet, quick feet, and that helps to just being coachable is a place of big factor too.

27:37And just always come to come ready to learn and ready to be. What did last year's camp do for your confidence being playing everywhere and succeeding? Oh, yeah, last year's camp mean I pretty much got thrown into the fire with Donnie having his leg. And I just got thrown in and I had to produce, or if I couldn't produce and we're not reborn long-winded. And then as a defense, just carry three minutes in and say, you knew you could play. Austin, what do you see in three parts low and what areas is he developing? What areas do you need to go to? Yeah, so he's going to be a good player. He just got to keep building, keep you in the develop. It's a freshman off the line, they're going out to get developed. But he's doing really good. Have you been able to talk about some of the strengths that you've gone through? Yeah, every time he, and then the I'm always there coaching him, we need everyone. Did you guys see the last year we need everyone? It happened to play that early in the season, maybe do more for your development than maybe anything else.

28:39It's just because of how you're talking, like you had to have that mindset of, I have to do this or else we're probably not going to win for him. Yeah, I was pushed camp last year and then I just had to have a mindset. So you're going to make your, last year Donnie made his first starting tackle at the time to record. It seems like your potential when you're first started to tackle. What you're looking for and an opportunity to prove yourself right away. It would be a good tackle, and I was welcome against this really good defense. Yeah, it's going to be a great matchup for us up front. And just trying to prove and show, like, I prove to what I've been working on. And just trying to just be the best, but I can be. How much do you guys like Kenyatta, Peyton, CJ, like I'm going to say, prepare you for defensive line like that? Yeah, so each of those guys are very different. They're defensively they bring up different style and then just going against that every single day. I think I'll be ready. Austin, you talked a little further. What have you seen from Jay?

29:39You came on like the other two freshman teams, that's your freshman. Yeah. They're doing good for young guys. They just keep coming to keep them every day. Keep competing, keep working, keep working hard. And they'll be really good. What was the cross-sale? The first question. Really got you moving to left tackle a lot of this camp like how? How was it first discussed? How did it first happen to you? Surprise. Why are you expecting it? It's just so interesting to do how it's happened. I wouldn't say it was a surprise because like last year I was playing left and right. So it came natural for me to play both sides. But I mean, we were just trying to find like we like a set early like a prime in position. And second, every guy had to play both positions. Last year we had like 10 different rotations, whatever that was. But we had everyone was rotating. What do you feel like you have the most to go on that trip? It's in the left tackle. Just definitely work my sets and everything. I mean, as a guard, your sets are glad they're going to tackle.

30:41And I just gotta keep working and keeping that time. Did you ever take your place on it? Day. You did some left tackle in the spring early, right? Yeah. So this isn't completely. No. Does it feel as left tackle now your primary position? I want to say no. I mean, I mean, if I have to go right tomorrow, if I will, probably I don't know. So this is, I guess, tackled right now. Do you think people are making too big a deal about it? Is it clear when you're playing whatever is about to fit together? Is it left tackle? So sort of got some some kind of an aura too. No, Coach Bowen still trying to finalize our five up front. And then every day could be some guys rotating. And so yeah. I was your history last question. Allowed you to just be this cool. You've never really had one specific problem.

31:41It just starts like who I am as an individual, like how I grew up. I just always came to work, always working hard. And as I grew up and I was like, I played in every position, just as I center. And then back coming here, it just felt natural for me to go home, play it right. And then next play go left. And then if I had it, I could step out. Thanks, I'll stick it. So you didn't play center in high school. What you can do it in the day. Problem. He would plan as much. So I just wanted to get like more experience under my belt. So I can bring younger guys with me because I've been going a lot. One of those younger guys we're seeing right here. It's the first time I scored all those last years. What have you seen from Will? I should have real forgot about him because he was hurt. Now how he's running, you know, almost a second man off behind you and Ty. What have you seen in the middle of the day? Will is a workhorse. He goes, stay quiet. He's going to work hard. He's going to do a job right.

32:41It really has any mistakes. What would be a successful season? A national championship and I'm reading when all the games we want to lose anything. We've got a mindset that we can't be beat. Yeah, we just have to go show it. That mindset difference. It seems like you guys expect the national championship ever even. So you guys have all come back for this. You guys have all decided like enough is enough. Does that feel the difference? Or is there not really any difference? It's just the same. It's definitely a difference. Everyone working harder. We noticed our last run. Most of us don't have any years after this. So we got to go bigger, go home, and we're not trying to go home. So it's finished big. We know what you guys think of Michigan. But when you look at what they did, they won the National Championship, and you guys took them down to the final minute, right? You know what I mean? I mean, you were right there. Something goes a little different. You guys could have won that game against them.

33:42Does that tell you anything about like that, hey, you guys want to win a National Championship, but you played to the 59th minute with the team that won the National Championship last year, like you're that close? So I'm saying, we just work harder. That's kind of what Coach makes of saying. Nobody cares, just work harder. Those won't play Georgia. It's the same thing. Last play. They went on the winning ad. So we just got to get over that hump at the end of the season. I think we'll be fine. How frustrating is that? You're that close against the last two national titles. Of course, it's frustrating. But you can't change the outcome. You can't really dwell on it. You just got to come back and work harder, do things better than you did last year, and hopefully the outcome will change. Yes, as you get older, you kind of learned. I thought I was working hard, and then you always find out there's a little more that you could have been doing. Yeah, definitely. And that's what growing up is basically in college. I thought, fresh me, I was working. It's hard as I could, but now I look back at it. I really wasn't working hard at all, compared to what I'm doing now.

34:43So just to learn anything. If the stamina's a 16, then the answer to what is what do you need it to be to be your best? Uh, it is a 75. It's only a 85. 80, 85? I mean, I can, it's all on me. It's just, I think it's a little higher. I was just trying to be funny. But I mean, it's all on me. I just got to run harder. Get the shape. It's kind of the idea of a potential to succeed in a 70-year-old season. Besides about that idea, does it make you nervous about, can you last that long? Do you really need to work with somebody? I think I'm going to kill that. I think I definitely can last. I was just, you know, we got to get the young guys to come along with us. We can't play 50 snaps again. That's just too much on our bodies. Just everybody's like, oh, line, D-line. We got to get those younger guys to play, you know. Get that pieces on the D-line and the O-line and everywhere else so we can last that long. Speaking of that, what's your life plan? If you like playing that new snap again last year,

35:44because I don't know if any of us were really expected to be playing that next time. Ah, yeah, I did. Unless we were like winning by like a lot. I thought, like, there are no moments you know, I can go sit down or something. But we're playing them big games, like, you know, Notre Dame, too, or those kind of games. Of course, I want to be in, because I know I can contribute. And I won't want to put that on anyone else when I know I can get the job done. What stands out about Kevin McDonald is he got the key. Have you guys ever seen this second? Oh, yeah, definitely. K-Mac is a K-Mac animal. Y'all, you haven't really seen it yet, but in practice, he shows all the time. He's just, he's growing right now. He has to work, I think. He just has to get, you know, in the playbook, things like that. You guys are about the exact same size. Listen, you're both listening to 6-3. You're 3-27. He's 3-26. Yeah, he's very awesome. I kind of look at him like my junior, but, you know, K-Mac, he's going to be a great player. He's got to develop more in getting the playbook. So really a lot on you, older guys. There's that large group of young guys, and then there's the seniors in the back. Is that part of your task for this year to bring those guys along as well?

36:45Yeah, definitely. We got to be leaders. Like I said, we got to have them play this year. We can't just play all the snaps. They got to get in there and get some work. And we got to get them right, learn all season. So they can play. And I just play. They want to contribute, like, make plays, tackle, and sex. Is it? It's a bit of a frustration. I think it's a bit of a frustration. It seems like these guys get big. Each one of the freshmen class is looking bigger and bigger. And those guys kind of, those are going to kind of while you're in the cell. Yeah, they're definitely some big dudes. And they all work hard. I've only seen much of some lead day two when I'm passing on. But throughout the workouts, they've been working hard. You know, they're determined. I can say that. And it looks like they're ready to work at me. How important is those? It feels like there's a lot of great defenses that you have big, athletic defense attackers who can eat up space, but also move, you know, right? That is that. Is that an inquire that maybe for a great defense to have guys like you that have some fault, but also a great team?

37:46I think that is definitely. I think if you look at the last couple of national championship winners, like, team of Northe, you know, they got two good, uh, detaco, two athletic detacles. Look at Georgia. Two athletic detacles. I think that's definitely neat if you want to go on that big run and beat those big teams. If you think about that, they're not defined by the defense attackers. Like, what's Georgia? Jordan Davis and Daniel Carter and what's Michigan is Chris Jenkins. Tell us more questions. You might be wondering like how, I mean, you understand it, which you play at, but I feel like some time I don't know. I don't know. Are people realizing how important defense tackles are? A little bit more than they used to? I think so. Uh, I think they're starting to develop to develop more and more of these like freakish detacles. Yeah. Like in the combine, just now, you see in like those guys, they're moving forward to 478 and things like that. So we'll see. And when you think about those freakish attack, how do you think you fit into that mold of that kind of player? You watch that and say, yeah, that's me. Uh, yeah, definitely. I think I'm top notch when it comes to detacles, but I don't want to, you know, get a big head,

38:51but, you know, watch the combine. I watch it do the drills. I mean, I have to. I have to see you like looking at my film. So I think I'm up there. Well, I think you become like a artist. I think the way I understand your things. I mean, you're going to break practice. You're not doing as much a weapon on the left. That's the thing. How do you work on that? Do you have like a goal in mind? I don't remember how many that last year, like you have a goal in mind. How many do you want to have? I mean, as many as I can have, I think I have more than that. I think he said it. I think he said it. I think he counted some of them. And it's some of them where I like just listed. So, but I think we work on drills matching the hand. I think that's, uh, goes big. Uh, what we do is a D line, you know, just affecting the quarterback is anywhere you can. It's just great for the defense. You know, just that little thing you cover in his eye, you know, he might throw it a little bit to the left to our player. So it's something that you really, really have to work on. I think I just have like a, like, a eye for the ball kind of, I kind of just look at the

40:05quarterback and just, I see him, I load up. I just try to get in his ways. And sometimes he just throws it to me. I'm irritated if you want to be a high state quarterback. I mean, they get frustrated by, you know, we're a team, you know, we're just getting better. I should lot of, a lot of different backs, man, they just learn to grow for them. You got to pick your top three backs. You got to go right now. One, two, three. Uh, I don't really have a top three, but I'll give you, I'll give you one. I would say, say, Juan Gibbs and I like McCaffrey. I like McCaffrey. Best back in this drive. I lead out of the yard. That's y'all, that's y'all decision. Playing with Will Howard, what I'm going to remember most. We're a Howard, man. He's just such a great leader, man. It's just like in moments where, you know, usually a lot of players, they fold, man, he was just always calm and relaxed, man.

41:09And he just the leader that he was, man, that's one thing I'm going to remember about him. Yeah, he's, he's going to be really good, man. He's on Coach Lock. I think he got the transfer in as well from West Virginia. Just that one, two punch with them both as well. They're going to be really good backs. And so James people's man, he's smart the way that he goes about his business, man. He's mature. And so man, he's growing, you know, just as a person and as a player. And so man, yeah, definitely Ohio State, you know, that running back room is in great hands. I was right about looking at his POC spot and foot on his top face, and he was personality and approach. I'll keep that up until he's in there. Yeah, Coach, Coach Hartline, man, he's full of energy, man. And he's creative as well, you know, I'm just learning from him as well, you know, trying to run more outside the backfield, was being able to learn from Coach Hartline. And so he's definitely creative at what he does, and he brings a lot of energy to the team as well. And so I think that would do really good. Just the intensity, man.

42:15And since he got the playoffs, every game, man, is like the intensity got, you know, higher and higher. And so, you know, being able, I know in the lead, it's the same thing, even if it's not the playoffs, just every game and the intensity, it keeps getting higher and higher. And so, yeah, you just, I know you got to bring it, you know, each and every day, and come in and work, just like Ohio State. You know, I definitely feel like Ohio State, they definitely do a good job of preparing us for that. You know, I just remember even before going through this process, I'll talk to a lot of players before that. And they told me a lot of just about how much Ohio State prepared them, you know, for the NFL. And so, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I know I took a couple of days off after the national championship. And then, shoot, right after that, I'm writing sample Florida and I'm right to it. And so, yeah, I think while I trained, I trained at your performance. I think it's called the House of Athlete or the Compound now.

43:16They did a good job, man. It just, bringing us in and the way they went about training us, man, they did a really good job. The Bucking Nears, no, I haven't. Tampa, Tampa, nice. It's a nice city, man. Really nice. The 40, the broad and the vert. It's a great season, awesome. It means you're a mentality of when you've got a linebacker, so you're the best. You're the figure that you and you're in training just more of a number of things. Yeah. Yeah. Nah, man. It's really all about technique. And then, this is about mindset as well. And so, I say, you know, it's for the love of my brother. It's for the love of Will Howard. It's for the love of the receivers who I got on the perimeter. Just making sure, you know, first of all, my quarterback doesn't get sacked. And I told Will, I think it was before the first game. I was like, I got your brother. It's, I said, man, I'm not going to let you get hit, you know. And so, I don't know if I gave up a sack. I'm not sure that, but I know if I did, I haven't given up too many.

44:19And so, man, it's for the love of my brother's, though, man, making sure the ball get in their hands, you know, the guys on the outside and making sure they get fed. You know, you have to hit the practice field later today. What is something you've been working on right now? You know, I'm not going to let you get hit by my game. You can't really work on this, you know, in all season, I feel like it's more so, you know, you got to put the pass on. You got to go through some inside run, you know, maybe it's really just continuing to run through tackles. And so, that's, I feel like that's one of the areas in my game. You know, I want to continue to get better. I feel like I did a good job of that my senior year. And so, I just want to continue to build on that. So, you know what I did? Yes, I did. You look like a lot of morale there. You get back in person. I think that would be more. I did meet with New Orleans as well. I never got that comparison. Actually, I know I have a Camarro. Sure, yeah, man, I have a Camarro. Great, great back, man. Just what he does and those 101 matchups, he's dangerous, man. And he's so smooth. He's so smooth as well. I'm not going to lie. He's smooth.

45:19So, the mid-jump game around here is a little bit different. Yeah. Inside zone from stack, being able to hit that thing downhill. And I'll say the next one is probably just an option out of the backfield. You know, a man and man coverage. You're getting on that line backer. And so. Yeah, I say to man, the biggest thing is the way that he carries himself, man. And the way that man approaches the game. He comes in with the mindset, you know, he's going to work every single week. You know, every practice, you know, he's working hard. You know, even shoot. I don't know. I think he had a, every game was a good game for him, man. But still, man, he always has the mentality to mindset that, you know, he's going to come in each and every day. He's going to continue to work and get better, man. And so he's definitely, man, he's going to be a special player, man.

46:19He really is. Man, a lot of ups and downs, man. It's just how you respond to adversity. And I feel like that's something that God has definitely helped me to do better. Is this, I'm not having something to lean on now. You know, I remember before I met him, you know, going through those adversity, I had nothing to run to. You know, you can run to people, but they still can't, it's not too much. They can't truly help you. You know, I feel like, you know, I feel like the only person that can truly help you is your relationship with Jesus Christ. And so being able to lean on him, you know, he gives you, in those moments, where it's tough, you know, where it's low. And when you're behind the scenes and you're going through things that people don't know about, he gives you that peace and comfort. You know, even in those moments, man, where it's so hard that you can't explain. It's like, man, I'm going through this, but like, how am I still filled with this internal joy? You know, how do I have so much peace in this situation?

47:20And so that's something that only Jesus Christ can give you. And so... The back of the firm, Peterson Power and Judges, who are effectors, which aspect could be to those other individuals that you run to properly and from being around power and... Man, those guys have such a great mentality, man. Am I just really loved their mentality, especially Q as well. You know, I talked about Will Howard, his leadership, but Quincham mentality, man. That boy just gifted. You see, you know, sometimes he put in a situation where he looked like he should have a negative five yards. And as soon as you know it, you know, he, the running through somebody, stiff arm, and somebody, and shoot, it's a game to 10. And so... You some of the things he does, he just realizes two different guys. Yeah. Shoot, I think... Yeah, man. I think it's just like... He's just gifted, man, too, beyond. And he's just gifted. You know, he's a big back.

48:20You know, he's strong, and so... You know, he's able to do those things. And so... Yeah, man, it's definitely... You know, I look at his game, and I want to... You know, at the same time, I want to learn from Quincham. You know, I want to look at his game and it's like, man, where can I get better at as well? You know, that's the type of player I am. I'm always looking to get better, man. I'm always looking to grow as a player. What's your last two tweets? Julian Sand. Oh, yeah, he's going to be a great... He's going to be a great quarterback, man. He's so accurate, and so... He's definitely, man, I know Coach Dez is definitely going to get him right. Just, you know, container grow as a leader, container grow as a player. And so he's going to be really good for a high state. Thanks, guys. I know just the quarterback position. I feel like, you know, the quarterbacks in the past, they've definitely been vocal. And so I feel like that's something that they're definitely going to ask Julian Sand as well. They have vocal leader and lead the offense and lead the team. Thanks, guys. Thanks, guys. Shoot, man. He has a build like JK Dobbins.

49:20And I kind of see them, you know, similar to his inner game as well. And I know JK Dobbins, he was a great running back. I feel like he's not talked about his none. A lot, but man, his career here, you watch his highlights is great. I remember before I recruit, before I committee here, I remember watching JK Dobbins highlights like every, every one of his years here, like four or five times. And so, man, he was such a great back. And I feel like, you know, when I see JK Dobbins, when I see James people, I see similarities to both of their games. I feel like they play the same. And so I appreciate you all. Yeah, I'll be going. You can get back. This.

50:37You. You.

51:37You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. All I got coming in last round of the road. So I just tacked every day really the same way. Basically, the van's very rough. Physically, how different are you? Weight wise, body wise, all that from the year ago. Oh, I think I got a lot bigger. I'm like 240, you know, like 244 right now. Last year I played at like 236 to 37. So what does it feel like a 244 or a value? It's like almost a different machine out there. Yeah, what does it feel like to be running around out there like you are? But with more and more back. I just feel like I'm like like, like more downhill. Like stronger. Like I'm taking all blocks better.

52:37It's a big. No. Is it don't think, uh, maybe that's not the correct term. But to think you're going to be playing much more than you did even last year. And you played quite a bit last year and stuff. What do you have to get straight in your head about being on the field that much more? Just got to get ready to just play 30 more snaps. So. But are you, are you, how would you describe how much you're looking forward to it from an 8-stand? Yeah, I'm looking forward to it. I'm ready for it. My, I'm ready for it. The text is open. It's a rematch. But it's not really two different teams compared to the last time you all played and stuff. How has that enhanced this camp for you and this team getting ready for the, where an opener of that magnitude? Yeah, with an opener like that, we've been, um, with the emphasizing in the line. We know we got coming. So we know we got to do. We've been prepared for it. I already just probably worked with him. I think Riley ready to play right now. He, he advanced freshman like he ended up here in the book. He stood in like, he advanced and his measurements was crazy. Like he saw like, saw like to.

53:38Or, you said you're ready. You know, you're ready. What was that process like during last season? Could you feel yourself becoming more and more ready for whatever the team needed from you? Yeah, because that's pretty much what my role was. Which is whenever I was needed, I had to step up. So I feel like that's what built me into me being able to say I'm ready for this year. When you say ready, is it more a physical thing? Is it a mental thing? When I say ready, I think it's pretty much like everything physically, mentally, mostly. I think I'm there. A different is that feeling this year of the last year. That's the most possible. Oh, I asked the one more time. How different is that responsibility? That's the reason that you just say emotional. All that. The more last year, you knew you were a home player. Oh, I feel like it's, uh, it's a way bigger responsibility with me having to step up this year. But I kind of go about it the same way. Like last year, I was intentional with everything I did. I feel like this year is going to be the same thing.

54:39It's probably a little bit more. Somebody who's some reason. And what word? How's anybody working? Uh, I say. Scrab my gun. I say, like when you think of me, you think of like a, like a bullet, like a silver bullet. I don't really know. I'm always on the ball. That's how I like to play and think. No, I ain't got to be my nickname, but. So I'm saying that the thing to be. Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's like. I was. How does that fit you? And what do you think? Um, unique part about our offenses. I don't think necessarily you play the X or the Z because the pit on the formation of the hash, you can be the opposite. You could be the X, but then you're to the field now you're the Z. So you got to really learn the entire concept and know where you're out in the field, which I think makes everybody smarter players because you don't pigeonhole yourself.

55:43I just play X, you know, I'm only in this position. Like you get in two minutes, you're the Z. Now you got to know what to do. You may have the clear out router. You may have the backside dig like you got to know what you're doing. So I think he doesn't just say like we're going to do this offense. He's really trying to create an office that hits our personnel really well. That that field boundary thing. Yeah, that's a thing in college, but it seems like it's more to clip. Is that something you're used to seeing in other offenses? You've been. Yeah, definitely. I mean, I think if if I'm on the left hash, like technically, I'm on the X, you know, I'm in the boundary, but if we're on the right hash, I'm still on the left side. I'm really the Z in the concept because I'm to the field, I'm to the strength of the tight end. So I've been in offenses like it's similar like that before. And you know, I just think he, he, one thing I think that's really stood out as the compliments of our routes that we have so far. I feel like we have a chance to really run similar stems, but there's different routes off those stems and things like that, which I think for receiver like myself who.

56:46You get, you know, a really good look at DBs and they study your film, they study your splits, like having routes that look the same, but break off a different. Different angles is extremely important because it feels like you have some versatility in your bag to go out with versus like you got this hitch again. You're backside like that's all you got, you know what I mean? So, um, yeah, he's just been a really good player's person to work with and he's been really communicated with the leaders and how we want this offense to look like. And some of the ideas that we may have as well. So it's, it's been a really cool transition. You talk about the transitions, your third offense in three years, probably your fourth and six years. Yeah. How do you not kind of build up some barriers? Yeah, man, I got to do this again. Right. I think, you know, human nature is always a factor in whatever you do in life. But I think I try to make a conscious choice of coming in with a new year mentality each and every year. And I think it's easy because we've had so many changes in, um, it's been great working with Marcus and Jaden and Jeff and Sam.

57:54All of everybody, like it's, it's been great with working with all the quarterbacks and, um, I just have a mentality and not really being complacent. Like I try to really focus on the things that I, I can come back better at this year and I've been working my, my butt off to do that. So, um, I think the easy thing and when I was younger, you're like, dang, like you just want that consistency. You know what I mean? Like you want that, um, something you could depend on, but like life isn't, life isn't always like that. So, um, I've been reinvigorated because of just the energy that DQ brings into our building each and every day and, and the coaches as well. Like it's fun competing, you know what I mean? And sometimes I could get lost in the grind, but, um, I think the reason why you make it here at this level is because you, you fall in love with the competition of it. And I think the competition breathes the success because, um, that is really where you, the iron truly sharpens iron. So, you know, other guys are going to make plays, but when you get excited to go in there and, and know that, um, the next day we're going to go right back after the defense.

58:59So, um, for myself, I'm just looking forward to continue to grow with the quarterbacks that we have. Um, I mean, year six now, which is extreme blessing and, um, leader, one of the leaders in our room and I just try to take the bull by the horns with that. And so, uh, that's really been my focus and, uh, you know, I'm excited for another year. To us, it's looked like you're being more vocal on the sidelines to help young guys. Definitely. Something you decided this off season or, uh, I think that's been a part of my maturation process as a leader. I've always seen myself as somebody that was a, uh, a leader by example. Um, but from coaches and other teammates I've had over the years, um, guys like to hear what I have to say for whatever reason sometimes. You know, and I think the biggest thing where I've tried to figure out where I fit in with my vocal leadership is I never wanted to be like a dictator. You know, I mean, I never wanted to tell guys what to do or, or be a yellow or things like that. Like when I say something, I wanted to have power. I wanted to have meaning. And I hope, you know, the guys would feel the same way if they were to ask them that question.

1:00:02Um, cause I want to see all these guys win, man. Like it's, it's hard to make it in this league and stay in a career. And so anyway, I could help the receivers, the DBs. I'm talking to some alignment. Johnny, who's, who's rehabbing his foot. You know what I mean? Like everybody has a role and everybody has a different story and path. And so if I could share what I've been through my testimony to help them or, uh, do things that kind of slow down the process. I'm going to try to do that because, um, we need everybody from the rookies to the tenure vets to make this thing work. So, um, more so I, I try to speak to what I, what I know and, and really those honest conversations that I try to have with guys, what they know I'm coming from a good place. And I think I'm not the type of guy where I'm just going to talk at them. Like if they see something like I could take a coaching point from Luke McCaffrey. I could take a coaching point from day on. Me from Jahan from, uh, Marcus from anybody. You know, like, I think that's what makes you a great player when you can really, uh, be coachable from anybody and not take it from a personal standpoint.

1:01:07Hi. How are you doing? Good. I'm going back to what you were saying about Cliff and Vince. How is he as a teacher in teaching all this? Yeah, I mean, I think he does a really great job of making things simple, first and foremost. He doesn't overcoach. And I think that's the trust that he has in our group and his, and his coaches are position coaches to fill in the details. So we'll have an install meeting and it'll be a good amount of time. But then our position coaches will have time and we'll make it specific to that position. And so, um, then we'll come in and have a walkthrough. And then after that, we'll have another walkthrough. And so I don't think there's been a time where I've come out here and I'm kind of worried about what I got. You know what I mean? And when you get into certain offices, there could be so many details where you could be overwhelmed. And I think then it forces it kind of separates guys in a sense that like one guy may study more than another guy. But when you have these, these sessions that we have where we're having an installs in the morning, we're having two walkthroughs and then we're coming on the field and doing it. Like I think you notice a lot of guys are playing a lot faster and more confident because he's keeping it simple.

1:02:12And also he's very particular in what he's expecting, but it's not a lot. So there's not a pressure of to get it right. But at the same time, you know, it's expected of you and you know you're going to have the tools given to you to be successful out there on the field. And this offseason, just the totality of change from front office players coaches, the turf field. Yeah. What does that been like for you just to see what's going on? Yeah, it's been fun. You know, I think from Mr. Harrison, the entire ownership group down to Adam Peters, down to DQ, down to Jada, who he drafted and bringing in Marcus and Jeff and all those guys and down to leaders. We have on our team. I think it was extremely specific on the way they tried to build this thing going into this year. First, having the right people, bringing in leaders, bringing in guys who love to compete. The first thing that DQ said when he came here was in his first meeting, like if you love to compete, this is going to be the place for you. And I love it. You know, I mean, I love bags and going at it with the DBS every day.

1:03:13Like the little mundane stuff can seem a little boring, but that's, I think that was where you make the gains during the offseason, where you're really focused on. Hey, I'm going to give all I got for this day and I'm going to get better and then I'm going to learn from the film and come back tomorrow and ready to do it again. And he also understands like the benefits of having breaks. Like he's giving us breaks. We've had weeks off here and there that we can compose ourselves, but then come back and give it all we got. You know what I mean? And when you got a coach that understands the physicality of an entire season, where you guys do need breaks by the same time we're going to get after it. It makes it fun as a leader because you can take that to your room and be like, yo, we got these, we got this week. You know what I mean? That's extremely important, but you know, we have this little break coming up where you're going to get your your money, your body, your soul right. So coming into this season, I'm really optimistic of what we can be this year. And I think it started with the foundation that the ownership group and the entire staff has built. And now it's on myself as a leader to continue to hone that in into the locker room.

1:04:16But I think it's great because we have so many great leaders from all across the league who have won and we got Bobby Wagner in there. You know what I mean? I asked a hall of famer. So like, you know, being able to have kind of guys like that that you can lean on that can sometimes take over that leadership role where it doesn't fall on one person. I think it's extremely refreshing and knowing that everybody's on the same page and the message is the same allows you to go out there with confidence and always expect to know you. Terry, you seem to spend many of your off seasons learning about things beyond football, hobbies, what have you, did you do anything this off season so far? To hobbies or increase your knowledge of this world around you? Let's see a question. Play a lot of golf. That day just keeps my competitive juices flowing. Planning the wedding. That's going well. And I mean, I've just been grinding like, honestly, you know what I mean? I've been hungry this all season.

1:05:17Like, I started working out, you know, pretty early. And you start to see guys like coming back and it's just fun to like to be here and compete and feeling like everybody's on the same page, you know what I mean? And so for me, I'm a grind every off season, but just this one just feels like it's the start of something new and special. And the foundation of his extremely important to be a part of that to have a hand in that. You know, it's an honor, you know, and I put a lot of expectation on myself to come out here and be the guy that I know I'm capable of and also like taking the next step and being somebody that our quarterbacks that can trust and believe in. So this all season was pretty simple for me. It was just really about, you know, working and grinding and getting better. He talked about Jayden before. So far, I know we haven't seen everything. But in terms of his arm strength, the throws, he's making anything surprising so far about the types of his ability in that regard.

1:06:20Definitely. I think after the second or third crosser that he threw, I started telling receivers like, hey, you gotta get your head around. You know what I mean? Because again, each quarterback throws the ball differently and sees the field differently. So sometimes on crossers, a lot of quarterbacks may like to see you cross the ball and get into that open zone over there if it's a man flattened off. They like to see you get open. For him, he has a really good anticipation over the middle of the field where he can make those throws and give you a chance to catch and run. And he's really accountable too. Like we had to play today where he felt like he missed me and, you know, it's not a big deal at all. You know what I mean? Him and I can talk to those things and there's been a play that I've talked to him about. I could do a better job. But again, like that open former communication from a rookie, I think is very rare. And I think it speaks to the confidence he knows who he is, but he's also not afraid to say when he's wrong. And he knows he needs room to improve. But his touch on the deep balls is amazing. You know, I love getting extra reps after practice with him. We're just catching the top end of a deep ball.

1:07:20That's big for me. You know, I mean, I get to track the ball over my shoulder and it's big for him to be able to get used to dropping the ball in the bucket. But he just naturally has an ability to throw the ball. He sees the windows really well. Now he's just, you know, continue to get adjusted to the speed in the past rush. I think he's these reps that he's getting are unbelievable during 11 on 11 because he's getting to feel pain and all in and DA and Cleveland Farrow. Like we got some dogs up there who are going to come after him. You know what I mean? And we got some great guys up front who are going to protect them. And so these reps, I feel like are even better than just 7 on 7. And 7 on 7 I think he could do in the sleep to be fair. Like he throws the ball really well. When you get this 11 on 11, 2 minute drill, you're putting them in game like situations. And I'm looking at them in his eye. I'm like, we play a real ball now. Like we, we, we plan. You know what I mean? And you just see no, no anxiousness in his game and his demeanor, which is extremely exciting. And then, you know, he's extremely lighthearted and he's always smiling. So he's joking with lime and D-line. He's just cool with everybody. And like I said, like for a rookie quarterback to come in like that where guys are gravitating to him and he's not afraid to be who he is.

1:08:25That's dope. I think he has a bright future for himself. The tough losses, the tough seasons can weigh on a player. You're entering the prime of your career. J.A. kind of mentioned it last year. All he cares about is winning. He wants to win now. Is there a sense of urgency? You obviously always want to win. Yeah. Knowing that, you know, you're getting to the prime of your career. Like you want to win now. Yeah, I think that's a fair question. I think, you know, you start to evaluate when you, I mean, year 6. And you know how fast it goes. And I try not to put the cart before the horse were looking too far ahead. By the same time, you do want to win. You want to be a part of a winning culture and have a chance to win the Super Bowl and the playoffs and all those things. That's why we do this personally. And I'm just excited with being a part of an organization in an environment where now like everybody's on the same page in the message is uniform. And it speaks from the top down. And it reflects the guys that they're bringing in.

1:09:28You know, all the guys that they brought in are guys who are hungry, who are competitors, who not only fighting for spots, but are going to help us win games. And when you're around an environment like that, like that, that makes you excited. It makes you hopeful. And, you know, you don't know how it's going to turn out until we start playing games. But the foundation is extremely important. And I think this all season, we've really done a great job of building that. They have. And then when a coach Quinn guy here building with this team. So I feel like we're going to be going into this off season really knowing what we all got to do individually to become ready for camp. But the message is clear to come back to camp ready to compete and be ready to win. Thanks, Daryl. Appreciate you guys. Yeah, we should. We take it back. One of the funniest guys on the team right now. You get there long. You just keep your head down. Keep working. Keep grinding.

1:10:28Eventually you won't get to that point. How important is coach make you feel like coach make is a great guy. And I haven't really had no strength. Coach like coach make. Now he really going to put you to your limit. He's going to really challenge you. And he knows it's hard. It's hard to be a book out here. But along with you just keep going keep fighting. You know, saying everything's going to work out. So just don't get discouraged of things not going your way. You know, you just got to fight through it and just got to keep your head down. Keep grinding. With tightly caught to the end of the call. There's 40 or 50 snaps available. Does that change your mindset in the off season? I mean, no, because we've been practicing like that since the spring. Like we already knew we lost the great front four guys. You know, saying we know we had to pick up to where they left off. You know, with the national championship and all that. So just understanding and learning from them and getting with our coaches and to actually be able to like, okay, we see how they did it. Maybe we could do it our way, but just a way that benefits us as a unit. Well, and you guys lost a lot of players last year. It's not just the defensive line. I mean, obviously that's the position you play. But it seems like all off season it's been the pressure is under defensive line.

1:11:30This team will go as far as you guys taking. You want that pressure? Do you like that pressure? Or do you wish you could sort of fly the road? See, it's the thing we got around here is like pressure is a privilege. You know, if you don't got pressure, then you really want to say, you know, we're doing things. So we're arguing it right now because after we lost the front four, we was like, okay, we lost all these great guys to lead. It's the next man's up. That's our motto. So now we've just been working hard, head down, grinding, trying to get better. After a little thing that we've got to work on to be able to play in the big stage. You're three years into football only. What's your athletic career at all? How different do you feel when it comes to understanding the big picture of life as a defensive player? I know. At the beginning, it was hard, you know, transition from two sports to playing on one. But actually understanding like, okay, I'm here now. Whether I got to do, how can I help my teammates out? And how can I help this program out? It's a definitely a mental thing. So you just got a maintain. Keep your head down. Keep grinding. Give it the coaches and watching film learning. Learn it from the old guy. That's how I figured I'd just started. Watching Todd leaking tires. See how they handle certain situations and how they go about things.

1:12:34And there's added onto that with my daily life. The average high school athlete, like someone like yourself who's good enough to play SEC baseball, think that football, SEC football. Is that a just comparative when things get difficult and can be hard to overcome for people who haven't been through it? Is there anybody that you specifically lean on around here to get you through those tougher times? Yeah, I would say all the coaches that mostly close men, close KP and close J, you know what I'm saying? But most importantly, my family, you know, my family, my support since I was a kid. So just getting with them to tell them my problems and what the things I have to do really helped me understanding. Like they always tell me, just got to stay focused, got to keep working, got to keep grinding. And especially with the model here, you know what I'm saying? With tough love, discipline, you know, you just got to keep fighting, you know what I'm saying? Because like I said before, everything's not going to go your way. And the first couple of years, everything's not going to be how you thought and how you adjust to the certain situations is how you're going to build your real life. So how are you different?

1:13:34You're three since that transition then when you were getting through the Ohio State, you first year here? I would say I learned more about the game throughout watching other people play it and especially with the coaches, you know, getting with close J, tired league and tired when they was here. Seeing how they handle certain situations or how they handle like watching film or watching their opponents to try to figure out certain tips and keys that they can use in the game to be done in it. Who have you looked to and really taken away from how they handled things? Who have been some of your teammates that you've looked at in this situation? Are you talking about currently or? It could be current, it could be past. Well, I'm going to start with the past. The past was Tally Williams, Tye Hamilton and JT, you know, just watching. Mostly Tally, just watching how far he came along from when he first got here until where he was at now, just watching him understand more about the game and how he handled certain situations.

1:14:34Like I said, and currently I just watch you know, can you out of Jackson, you know, when he first got here, he really, he didn't know too much about the game. But as you got with JT and Jack and watching him grow, it was just amazing experience. So just learn from different guys. It don't matter the age group, it don't matter if you've been here three years, if you just got here because everybody's playing their own unique thing. So just taking bits and pieces from everybody that's been around him, just putting in my life. What do you feel is your unique thing or that unique trait that you bring to the D-Live? Just the, um, just the, I would say more of the mental aspect because like, like I said, when I first got here, it wasn't anything that I thought it would be, you know, saying we had a fight, had challenges in my life that I had to overcome and learn. So just watching how other people did it and putting in my day like and just understanding that I just got to keep grinding, keep putting my head down, just keep working and trusting to the process. So everything will work out fine. So just like that, getting free to four at that to the game can help, can help you as a D-Live and take advantage of the time that you're out there.

1:15:40I mean, you always want to minimize the opportunities you have, you know, take advantage of every little opportunity you get, you know, saying each opportunity to get better in life. So that's how I look at it. So it don't matter if you get one of back to a bad, long as you do everything you can in that one into a bad thing, the progress you're going to keep getting more. Alright, what excited about this year? I love it. Great answers. Great answer. What are what excites you most about this year? Just seeing how this team won't be, you know, everybody, like you said, we had a great team last year, you know, this new year, we got everybody coming back in, young and first. So just seeing how everybody was working and all of a sudden, how everybody was working in camp, just excited to see how we're going to be in a big stage. And Chris, because he's doing all the little things, he could say he's had a outstanding spring so far. And Davidson, what do you think he wants to get out of this year? You understand? I mean, he's back. What have y'all talked about about where he can make steps or what are you going to call him? To prove that top of the route, prove on the off coverage, some things that work on to make him a player he want to be next year this time.

1:16:46So he got to work on all this stuff now and he's done a better job in those things. So it's always the little details of things that you want to work on. He's tall. Yeah, I mean, so we got to make sure he's seeking to see if it's at the top of the route, being able to transition out of the breaks, because his body structure is a little different, something of the guys. So we work on those things now so that it becomes his foundation and it becomes part of his habits. So when we get into the season, they are part of his makeup. We've got young guys that are talented, but have not played yet. How do you talk to them about kind of competing with the Lex crop of young talented guys coming in? His musical chance. No one cares that you're young. They've fallen about over there when they gave time. So you got to grow up fans and in the competition is real. So we we we preach the competition. We don't shy away from it and you got to pick it up and go. Whether you're a third year guy or whether you're income. So we let those guys compete and go against each other. They'll go get someone on the freshman, but you're going to get someone to dance.

1:17:48Because that's part of it because if you actually get in the game, no one really cares that you're a freshman. So we have to try to create that environment and practice what we do because we go against the best receiver group in the country. That helps us grow and learn in that area. So we get a chance to get a real good evaluation of the competition. But doesn't the guy is going against it? Now, it was obviously this year, last year, the play has blackstriped off the other day. What improvements has he made to like to have some of the progress? Since the urgency and he's doing well on the special teams, I mean, you got to start creating a role. He did well on the special team. He started an emphasis on urgency. He's applying the game a little better. So that creates an opportunity. So continue to do those little things and show the effort and urgency to create open the openings of opportunities for you. And then we'll ask you if there's going to be a small amount of five or four priority for your guy to secondary together. What was the most positive impact you've had earlier? Oh, no question. So we each other, position flex. Anyway, so you know, we always move guys around.

1:18:52If you notice, you know, even in I'm going in the past, but you know, guys like Jo and Hancock, he played corner, he played nipple, he played safety in some situation. I mean, you got to have those guys that can move around a little bit and you got to have a few guys that can do that just so. I was just cut down short, but just have the baby move the porch down to get your matchup that you won't start getting into the season. What stands out about Aaron Scott and what do you expect this role to be this year? I don't know his role to be, but he's been doing well this spring. So he's been competing. He's been applying the game as functional intelligence has been up. He has a passion for it. He plays with great effort and things are coming along for any flammable confidence. So all those things, Bill and then can we sustain it? Can we keep going and the roles take care of himself when we get closer to game time? It's real early on that part now because they got a few weeks of spring ball. They always stay up trying to get in the same chairs. Yeah, what's been your take on him? He's doing a solid job, but he's learning. He's growing.

1:19:53Like I said, I like this and stuff when he goes over long period of time, but he's doing well. He picking stuff up. He's making some plays, but he's the awesome stuff of LARRA. Because you know, he has a lot of different stuff. Love moving parts man. So, but he's doing well. We pleased with his progression so far. We just have to keep seeing it going with all these guys. The C8, how it is that go when we finish spring ball, then we'll start moving it in the camp. This is all this stuff still applicable with all the situations and things that we've got. I'm serious. What is the most difficult thing for a young guy to pick up one? To be able to the speed of the game with the different formations, the situation of football and being able to apply it. Because it's faster. It's a lot of moving parts and there's a lot of different personnel groupings and there's a lot of different characters. So you have to be able to apply all those moving parts. And sometimes it takes you guys a while to do that. They doing a good job of it. We keep pushing them and we look forward to the progression on it. So we try to push them as hard as we can now in the room. So when we get close to the training camp and see that they're in the better shape, we'll put the hammer next time.

1:20:56Can you tell me as you look at what is he showing me? He's doing well in the same thing. He said we play him outside. So when this side, we kind of been moving around doing the again, we just trying to see any mail what guys can help him. But again, we only can know that if we put them in the spot to see if they can do it. So we just move guys around see what they can do. It also helps the football out. The more positions you play and run, you have to learn it. So that helps you mature overall football knowledge. So let's see. As you put this thing together, you and Matt, houses coming together. How much of you put in right now? And I mean, are you guys like kids in a candy store? You look at some of the talent you're going to the pieces you're going to have. Yeah, we got a lot of pieces and we're excited about it, but we still taking it slow because we are young and we still a young team. So we just started slowly. You guys around to see what they can handle. See their football IQ, but we do have a great group of guys.

1:22:00They're very competitive. They're growing. They have talent. So we just have to experiment and see what guys can do. So we'll know the best spots to put guys in. You guys know what you're doing. Oh, great. I mean, the other four. Wow. You know what I mean? So I've been, you know, knowing Matt for a minute and, you know, the camaraderie, the chemistry and all that works great. And that's the thing about my staff on the side. But we have great chemistry over there. So to be able to blend in the back end, stuff we're doing up front, we try to make sure we get the right personnel groups on the field. And see what guys know. We got a great group of kids. So those guys doing all that stuff, make it fun. And he gives us a lot of flexibility and move guys around in different pieces. Yes, too many. Too many. I feel like it's this playing ball, you know, just different plays, different routes. You know, the linebacker or corner outside, you know, just different stuff. You know, just I feel like we all just learning from each other. Talking, you know, he asking us, we asking. And, you know, just we all just lean on each other. And I feel like that's what you need.

1:23:05You know, if you want to go to where you want to go. I feel like first, man. It's just going on. We've been doing, you know, play the game, we've been playing our whole life. You know, it's, you know, it's like I said, take it first, but I feel like first, man. You got to block out the notice. You know, remember the mystery about gold. Say one day at a time. And you know, it's the best. I said, you know, I feel like you can't jump at the end of the season. You know, you got to see about tomorrow. Yeah, after that, after that. So after like first, man, just keep stacking, keep building the rest of the play. Do you feel like this is the thing that you got even better at since last year when you had your best season? Yeah, I feel like for me, man. Just continue to work on my, my explosiveness. Being flexible, you know, being a fluid. I'm a big body, you know, I'm six four. You know, so it's tall. You know, I'm a big friend. So I feel like for me, man, just being the band, dropping away, you know, just going up and high point to fall. So I feel like for me, man, it's always working on my craft. Never get comfortable, you know, you can't get the place with man.

1:24:09I feel like that's where you lose the vision. You know, I feel like for me, man, just continue to stack, brick by brick, man, and reach my goal. You were pretty open for the last year about how different this season. I feel like it's the same mindset, same energy, same goal, man. You know, last year was good, but wasn't good enough. You know, we didn't reach with that goal. We wanted to, you know, made it first round playoffs, going lost. Then that was it. So I feel like this year came had that same feeling. You know, it was like the wind keep going. So we feel like we're going to keep that feeling. Keep the energy going, man. I feel like for us, just like I said, just one game at a time and have fun, be there for each other and join a moment. I think every time you were seeing me talk about this before, but you're on the road going to science, where you see the potential competition in the offices.

1:25:09From that, man, just seeing him thought I'm doubt that man, you know, just from his past, and I even dealt with a lot, you know, just seeing him, you know, coming in every day, you know, working with himself, working with his body, you know, things he's been like, you improve on man, and it's showing on the field, you know, it is his work. If you put it in off season, it's showing, you know, I feel like I'm just everybody just keep going ahead down you, like just continue to improve. We just want to be saying every day, man, but I'm, I'm just, it's impressive. I just see his work at the man to see him just keep shining and progression the way he is. Man, it's amazing. You know, so for him, it's God. As a big body, why do you see where he has gone? As much as I feel of Andre Johnson, what are your feelings about going to the hands of the plane there? Man, I do especially, it's the reason why he's there, you know, it's the reason why we're going to see him being the hall of fame, man, he's a legend. You know, so I watch a lot of big body receivers, him, Julio, Larifice, Jair, Mike Thomas. You know, there's a lot of guys like that, I feel like that, I got the same body as me, you know, watch how they release, watch how they, you know, they come like the brakes, things like that, they're being smooth.

1:26:16I feel like that's what J.D. his career here, man, it's going up, whatever ball in the air is coming his way, it's his. So I feel like some of us said, that's what I'm chasing, trying to be like him, so they do what he deserves, for sure. I see, I feel like I have the extension in the backhand, although I can get the loud lead to make the way to the plane. So how much does it mean to be a company that's just seen and all that that has already been there? Yeah. And then you can just really go out and go to the hospital. Yeah, it's a blessing, man, you know, you know, a lot of people don't get that signature and get that second contract, man. But for them to believe in me, and put their trust in me for the con, you know, it means a lot, you know, you know, they trust me. And I feel like, my name, how you got to put the work in, you know, they put all the tips in it, so I feel like you need, I just got to continue the showdown, you know, continue to prove myself, make a team to have fun. I feel like this can't get comfortable, you know, is there about to like, this is much more to improve on, always more improvement on my game, you know. So like, I'm not there yet, you know, I feel like I'm always, you know, is going to get better, is going to find what I need for my body and just to make plays for the team, you know.

1:27:22This year, man, I feel like it's going to be fun for everybody, you know, everybody's just a process, dial, then be relentless, man, and beat us with each other. Can't nobody stop that. It's one of the motivation also. Besides your dealing, and next thing you know, everybody else is signing deals and getting more and more and more. But that was also motivated to get that next contract. Yeah, yeah, it was definitely, man. I feel like it's just a lot more on the table, you know, I feel like it was just a start for me. So I feel like it's got to build on, you know, just continue to go, you know, continue to try to prove everybody right, prove myself right, you know. And just fall out, man, I feel like it is, I saw that guy, you know, just keeping myself. Sure. Appreciate you all. I know.

1:28:24I know. Okay. Well, some of us talked to you. You were talking to the Houston about storm preparation. You feel like you were prepared for the storm, so we got it. And what you want to say to the Houston about the storm, so you get it. Yeah, I wasn't here. So I was back in Georgia, thank God. And I came back in the tree, filled my backyard, and my power was off. But I hope everybody was safe. And next time we have one, everybody continue to prepare the right way. Put off the monster. Yeah, I'm like, I think last year, I was like 248. And about time we got to like the Ravens game. I was like, I just can't last. I feel like I was getting tossed around. So I kind of boked up a little. Just off scene. Try to keep my speed. What I did keep my speed.

1:29:24So I'm like two, three now. I feel good. Some people still say I don't even look big. So I appreciate you for that. I think for sure. And in terms of having more of a pass fresh plan, things that you have at your disposal, where do you feel like you're better specifically? In terms of finishing and having a pass fresh plan, just a record record. Yeah, for me, I feel like that's the area I'm still working on right now. Me and coach Berkler was actually just talking. I think that's one thing that I'm continuing to keep getting better at. It's just working on my finishing, working on my extension at the top of my rush, and turning that corner. That's something this whole off season I've been working on. I'm excited to just keep seeing the progress, and just keep building that 1% each day. What's different about you and Richie? We're not everything you're coming into all of our team. What's different for you and how do you do it? Yeah, I feel like my focus. My focus is just less on what everybody has to say and more on God. I think my biggest thing is knowing that like I always tell you,

1:30:24like my approval comes from him. You know what I'm saying? And ultimately everything that I achieve in his lifetime, I put it him first for it because he's the reason why I'm here. And I think that's the difference. Like this year, man, I'm like, God, whether it's a good game, bad game, anything. Like you're going to get the praise and glory for it. Like I'm going to let you use me. I ever you want to use me, each game. And I just want to be a servant, be a leader, and be a blessing to my teammates to help them out in any type of way. So that's my whole thing coming into this year, man. It's like, God, everyone that used me, I just want to be a blessing to this team. I think it's just a maturity, man, and just diving deeper into the word and spending this off season. You know, more church, more in the Bible, and learning myself more, and just seeing like how the outside world is and learning like, bro, like, and once you get to that spiritual level, I think it's like, bro, like God is your ultimate goal. Like he's the one that wakes you up anymore. And like, some person that somebody's basement don't wake you up anymore.

1:31:25Like they don't, they're painted a matter. So my thing is like, I want to put all my focus there and let God handle the rest. What are your high school coaches saying that they, they, they, somebody wants to motivate you to tell you something that you can't do. Yeah. And then you'll go out there and you'll get it done. They also told me that even during the spring break, some of my teammates would call them and say, well, what do you do? You can do a case of come, work through one on one. How do you keep that type of motivation going into here too? For me, I always feel like it's somebody trying to take my position. And it's somebody always behind me. It's just like trying to come get what I, like I want. So like, always want to stay on edge, always want to stay in front, always want to stay up to date with like, whatever I got going on, man. And that was my whole mindset. And that's my mindset now. It's like, how can I continue to get better? What am I doing to set myself apart from the rest of the competition? And that's just been my mindset the whole time. And you go talk a lot about confidence and the guys that come here under the belt. Yeah. Is that part of your game that you're more confident in than shooting and maybe doing it? Yeah, I would just say within the system, man.

1:32:26Like, not reading, not thinking, and just going and just being free and just playing my free is. And I think this OTA and going into this training camp, I kind of feel that like I'm more free. I know the system. I know what I can't do. I know what I can't do. But I know I can be myself within the system. How important are the things that you can do to have the players in the football camp? Yeah, it was really important. And Georgia, it's not that many camps down in the South. It's always going up north. I know it's on my junkyard. Going to Georgia for 100, an hour away, $45 camp. And I was like, man, I want to go back to my community where it all started. Having free camp for those kids because they deserve it, man. It's a lot of talent down there. And I just want to show them that anything is possible. And the biggest goal is just always giving back to your community and helping the younger generation. What have you been learning from the Neil Hunter and what's the relationship like that you've already started? Yeah, man. I've been learning a lot from him. He's been great. I commend him a lot just by the way he works with his hands. He does a really good job.

1:33:26And that's everything that he tries to do for us. Like we do a lot of hand work. A lot of karate a little bit. But like he's so good with his hands. And he's been teaching me that a lot. I would be out acting. He's teaching. I love how to play with his head. You guys have to act. I'm not going to see Jay that. My husband is good as his, man. You have to give him multiple tapes or anything like that. Multiple tapes. We were different by 10 a.m. and 9 p.m. And now I'm just playing. Seven. You're acting like co-brokari. Yeah, like co-brokari. Well, you meant I know in part of your family, you always talk about your sister. And here I know here what sister is really critical on your playing the early game. And you talked about how you ended the season and how you got tossed around. But she reached you right at the end of the year. Now they cut me some slack because they knew I was hurt towards the end. Yeah. They cut me a little bit slack. But believe they've been on me this off season. They've been on me. I had to wake up early every morning just to get away from a man. They're like, when are you going to go workout? When are you going to go do this? And I said, can I just do my schedule? Can I have my schedule? But I love my family to death.

1:34:27And that's why I appreciate them so much because not only do I push myself, but they push me as well. Yeah. Yeah. I would just say the bonding and keep coming together, man. I think we are further ahead of that than we were last year. Like even with all the new additions, it just feels like we've been together for a while now. With everybody that's been here, like, or all the new guys, it's just seen that we've been playing together for about a year or two now. And it just shows like, that's how the guys that we have in this building. Yeah, man. I think my biggest thing, I just wanted to get bigger, stronger, faster. And I think those are the areas that I really improved on and have more mobility and flexibility to be able to get in some of the positions to bend a little better, to get our blocks a little better, and to use my hands a little better. So those are all the areas that I feel like I've been taking the necessary steps to, you know, continue to keep improving. What do you do on the field? What do you do often to have a better presence in the life of a woman?

1:35:27Yeah, man. A lot of self-evaluation and just building my confidence and not being scared to say stuff sometimes and being more calm and being able to talk and stuff like that and being able to let my passion come out but real back on my passion a little bit. And just be more relaxed and calm about it. I feel like you guys have been having an expectation. Because people are thinking you guys are doing really good things. How do you think you guys are having an outbound movement? Yeah, coach it on the head yesterday, man. And I don't know just from the players, man, like the expectation of all of these expectations, like nobody on the outside is going to have a bigger expectation than the inside of the building. And right now our expectation is just building that building, building a tall building, man, but it starts with the outboundation of coming out here and getting 1% better. Everybody keeping their head down and just working. Thank you. I gotcha. What's the progress you know you've made over the last week and half two weeks? Just, you know, getting, I feel like I'm starting to play a little faster.

1:36:28I'm starting to just understand just the defense more. I feel like it's been good. Where are you wrapping up primarily between No Star and Interact? Right now, primarily No Star. What fits you about that? I say I'm very, I'm better working vertical than I am. More horizontal. I feel like I have a better get off. And that's where I shine. I can, you know, knock the center back. Josh, could you have said your slippery? What do you think you mean? Just, I feel like kind of like what I just said, I can knock people back at the same time. Like, stunts called I can be able to try to slip through the line. That's a problem. That's a good thing. Yeah, it's definitely a compliment for Josh. Yeah. I appreciate that from him. You're getting slippery. Yeah, he was very slippery. Hey, if you watch video, much video, yeah, where do you see y'all?

1:37:30Like, what did you inherit, I guess. I would say just like what I was just saying, I think my get off is the biggest thing I've been hearing. Just being able to just get off the ball and just knock a dude back. I feel like that is where he shined and that's where I was shining soon. He had a desire. He finished every one of you. You take that from him too. Go to the whistle. So yeah, I got to have a great mother, you know. Following this concept, you're so close to being able to fill up this team and get on the wheel. Trying to find your own legacy of life. Is that awesome? You've been thinking about that a lot to have close. You are to be able to start to make your own legacy. Yeah, for sure. You know, I want to, I kind of want to, like what you said, I want to build my own legacy, but I don't want to just credit his own legacy. No, this is mid-name. Yeah. Well, the virtue of you that played at Double Cop versus the version you are right now, how different are those things? I'd say pretty different. I mean, I was playing Ending at Double Klopman and now I'm smacking the middle of the line.

1:38:32I feel like I've gotten a lot stronger, a lot bigger and I'm a lot smarter in the middle of the ball. When you go back to you to top, you know, when you think about my view of Huck, I, you probably have very grand visions of what that's going to look like. You have to give me, there's so much work to do. Can you explain that process of how dedicated you really have to be to make that physical transition, to really be able to play with? Yeah, for sure. I feel like, I mean, it's like in high school, it's like a dreamy work towards it. And then when you actually get here, it's almost like a little smack in the face, like, like, oh shit, we're here to work, you know, in a sense. You know, I got to give all my props to Coach Mick. Like, he was able to transform my body and why I'm today and all the strength steps. So I feel like I can't take all the credit as mostly just like them just, and I'm just, I just follow what they tell me to do. And it's in the eye of now. But it seems like the training part is important, but it's not the whole thing. They're getting bigger and stronger. Yeah, it's like the culture part of the part.

1:39:33Yeah. How much of an effect reduce that in a part of your change? It's also, it's a lot. I mean, I feel like you can't be able to transform your body like I have with people here come and do that without having that mentality part with it. Like, we always talk about competitions here and our culture is fight. So we're always here to compete. And I feel like that is just, that's what gets you in this mindset. When you talk about that transformation, can you just give us a little sense maybe with numbers or body fat or like, what do you do with the weight group, how big is that transformation definitely? I don't have really specific numbers, but I just like, it's more just like, I can just, I feel like feeling when I'm playing. Like, I remember how it felt to play when I just got here and now I know how it feels to play like, like, like just today, like it feels physically different on my body. And it's like, it's, it's, I'm getting used to it, that makes sense.

1:40:35Almost, you guys are. I can't imagine feeling like that. Padilla also said about you that you are just a completely different guy from last year. We're here to work this year. Let's get it done. So you're here. Do you feel like you weren't at that place mentally? I think I was, but I think I had some, I would say, like, kind of like confidence issues, like I was just, but, you know, I mean, I work past it and I know I can, I know why I am and I know I can be here. So, the past confidence issues, how do you get through it? Is it yourself, is it teammates? Is there somebody in the family that makes you believe that you can do it? I know I can do it. It's not like that's, those are, those are all, it's on the past now. Did the past of play time in the very obvious opportunity guys had to step up and be able to be on the business? That helped you get over that confidence issue there because it's now and ever since your opportunity.

1:41:37So, kind of, it's just like, just, I mean, it's just, just being here. Like, I feel like being here every day, working with the guys every day, it's just like, you know, you become this person that you might not have like, you might not have felt like you were before that, but like coming here, working every day, stacking these days, like, you know, I just feel like I realized who I am and I know what I can do now. Well, I want to know maybe I'm going to start with this moment, are you? That's just a second. I feel like, convince yourself that you actually belong here and you can. I knew I knew I could play here. I mean, it's just, it was like the, like, I just, I don't know how to explain it. I just, like, I've always known I could play here. It's just, I'm just, like, let's go.

1:42:38Like, I'm ready, like, I'm ready to attack. What are guys the room to help you to figure that out? For sure, I think KJ was a big influence. Ty Hamilton, Ty League, they all, they all helped me a bunch last year, kind of just pushing through, you know. Alright, well. Yeah, we're super excited. I think that, you know, I played in the Rose Bowl my freshman year. It's an amazing venue. It's so beautiful. They do a great job, hosting for the players and coaches and families. So it really doesn't get much better than this and having a chance to, you know, redeem ourselves from what happened earlier in the season is something we don't take lightly. So we're very thankful. Austin Moore, the podcast, what if I told you that Germany is going to force them to push for the year of national? I did hear that. Yeah, that's a little, I don't even know who wanted to. Oh, it's, it also has access. Yeah, I mean, I don't know. That's a, you know, we know what we got here on our side. We're not too worried about, you know,

1:43:41awards and stuff like that. So I know JJ, the type of kid he is, that's only going to motivate him more. So it's fuel to the fire, which I think is good for us heading into this week. What was the, what was the first moment that you saw him? That was this could be something. I would say probably just his, his mindset, not even obviously he's a, you know, he's a, he's a freak when it comes to, you know, his, his body and stuff like that, just his physical nature. But I think just as mindset the way he approached the weight room, it didn't really seem like a way of freshman would. And he was our only freshman ever to receive, you know, Iron Buck, I reward, which, you know, something I was pushing towards my, my entire time being here. But, you know, it takes another level of dudes to be able to receive that reward, especially as a freshman. So, you know, that's kind of when I knew. What do you mean, what do you mean about that? More on that. When you and Mara first got here, here at the Chris, we're out of it about the way that you guys, even as freshmen, were pushing two guys who were about to be first round draft picks.

1:44:43And then Mara kind of said the same thing about Karnel and Brandon last year. How did JJ push you guys when he first got here as the young guy and now you guys are the older guys? Yeah, I would say it's, it's very similar. It's kind of the same exact thing. And I'm, you know, I don't know what it is about the culture and its own mistakes. We keep bringing in these type of people year in and year out. That's what makes our room so great. But I think that some of that, JJ was able to push me in was just, you know, he was able to push me in my leadership. I needed to grow in that aspect. But he also was able to challenge me when it came to the weight room and on the field. Because we were always, always paired together when it came to summer and when our workouts were always lifting together. You know, I get a couple wins. He get a couple wins. So, um, it's really that next level step of competitiveness that I needed and that edge that I needed. That Murphy 2474. You guys came into the Tennessee game with a lot of outside motivation with Michigan loss and kind of the three weeks of talk. I know obviously there's still that motivation to go on and win a national championship. But how do you keep that kind of edge to lack of a better term mentally after some of that stuff has kind of gone away?

1:45:54I would say kind of you lose your edge. I wouldn't really call you a true competitor. I think that, you know, the way with the college football playoffs is structured. The intensity cranks every single week. So, um, if you're not more intense than you were the last week, then then something's wrong with you. I think that, you know, Tennessee was a great win. Great for our momentum. But, um, we have our full focus on Oregon. Not worrying about anything in the past. Nothing in the future. Our full focus is towards this game. Um, and then, you know, we win this one. We go on to the next one. Our full focus is going to be on that one. So it's just you keep moving down a ladder like this. Step on Christy. Please let me know. Mike, there's been a lot of change in college football in the playoffs. I think of that nature. But, you know, the way in some you and some of your team into coaches, talk about the Rose Bowl seems like that's one game that's really, you know, maintained a lot of that tradition. You, you played in it. You know, what it's about. Could you explain it to, you know, we've never had a chance to play that why the Rose Bowl has maintained, you know, that level of respect from the players and coaches. Yeah, I think, uh, I don't know, they're just something about us. I'm in the air down there in the past. It's just a beautiful venue, especially that time of the year.

1:46:56Like you said, the tradition is held year in and year out. And it's kind of the game you dream of playing in when you're a little kid, you know, playing backyard football with your friends. The role of always always one that that tends to come up. So just having a chance of playing it. It's definitely very surreal and this is going to be my second time. So I'm going to do my best to take it all in while also being fully focused on organ. Dan, let me worry. Matthew Will said he still has 90 minutes about that first game in order. What kind of drive you seem to him this week wanting to get back in this one? Yeah, Will is, uh, he's a laser focused person. He goes about his business. I mean, he's very loose and he's very calm and he's able to rally the team. But you can see it in his eyes that this game means everything to him. So every single practice, every single huddle, making sure we're sharp, making sure we have a better practice than we had last. Then yesterday, a better practice than organs having. So his full focus is on being this team. And, you know, obviously it's hard not to think about the stuff of the past, but I know he's laser focused on what we got coming up.

1:47:58Tony Gerb and Buck, I have a Mac and one of your kids playing back here. I do about to gain what team we played for. Honestly, I wasn't, I was never really a. A Buckeye fan until, you know, I really committed here and I saw what it was all about. I was actually an organ fan growing up, especially on the Pacific Northwest. You know, my grandpa went to UW and stuff like that. So I like the Huskies too, but there was a legendary football player named Foto Liatto from my high school and he went to organ. And a couple of y'all probably know that story from a couple of years back, but he tragically died in the car accident. And, you know, he was, he was someone I looked up to in high school. I was relatively close with him even though he was a bit older than me in age, but I'm just seeing what he did at my high school and then going on to play big time football organ. That was a school that I really dreamed of going to. They build a bit like this back. I think that's another Germanic question. Is there one moment, one play, one something that made you visco. Oh man, I've never seen it before. That's just incredible.

1:49:04Yeah, I'll say it's happened multiple times. There's not really one I can pinpoint, but the more he does it, the more I tend to react less. So I would say probably my earliest memories of it were in spring ball kind of getting the first glimpse of him when he's making all these ridiculous catches and he still does it time and time again even now, but it's just more common now for me. I'm landed on the feet of the North. But you had, I think, was 12 touches in the first game against Oregon Thunder, such as two carries. Is there something about this matchup that favors you and now that you have where that productive the first time you played this team, what kind of the tension or I guess maybe different defenses are you expecting to see? Yeah, I mean, we're not entirely sure what their game plan is going to be, but we're paired for everything. I'm not going to get too much into scheme and stuff like that, but we know that if the ball comes our way, we've got to make those plays. So whether I have 10 receptions again coming up this game where I have zero or one, we're just looking to get this win on the road because it's really a road game for us, you know, flying across two times on.

1:50:05So I think that, you know, it's going to be a great matchup, whether they tend to focus on me more or not. It doesn't really matter to me because I know our team has a great plan regardless. That time for a couple more questions, Spencer, over a letterman role, you guys ever surprised when the game and you're actually currently also being asked in the water to get you. You can kind of feel it throughout the game, I would say. You know, he's a true competitor. He wants to get involved, but at the same time he's super selfless. I mean, he's really humble. So he's going to do whatever it takes for the team to get a win, but it's the competitor nature and then that wants to contribute as much as he can. So, you know, I try to be in his ear to tell him to be levelhead and stuff like that, not that I need to. He's a very level headed and selfless guy like I'm saying, but, you know, sometimes that's just how the game goes. You know, I had a game this year where I only had one catch, but you know, we ended up winning by lot. So I think that, you know, it's hard or it's easy to be focused on the personal attributes that you could have game in and game out. But no one's really going to remember those if we're holding up the trophy at the end of the year.

1:51:06He could be a number one. I think 95% of the boss is right now, but he's like number three. You see his work as all of those things that he goes in there and makes a play. You guys ever from behind him like, yeah, this guy has a number one. I would disagree with you. I think that he is a number one. I think that we don't have a number three receiver. I think we have three number one receivers out there. So whatever the defense, you know, if they want to put their attention on one guy or a couple of us, they're not really doing themselves any favor because we're going to have a favor. We'll match up on the other side of the ball. So that's never how we view ourselves. We know we're alpha dogs out there every single one of us knows we have the capabilities of being number one receiver and we are number one receivers. And final question. Steve, how long has 24.4? Yeah, and McAthayn to that game, he made one of the clutch plays that passed down the sideline. At any time when you make that play, you think, did you ever, your mind that we're going to win this game after we ran out close to field goal range? I mean, did that play in your mind, say, my goodness, we've got a chance to get out of here with the win.

1:52:09Yeah, I definitely knew where I caught the ball and I knew we were, you know, close to being a field goal range. So, you know, there was a sense of, you know, I knew I knew it was a big play that I made, but in those moments, you have to finish out the game. No matter what, you can't get a big head. You can't get complacent. You have to finish the game until the clock hits zero. And so, that's something we've been working on, you know, we work on two minutes every single Wednesday. Every single Wednesday practice, so today we'll work on our two minute and we don't even call it two minutes. We call it clutch because in those times, in those games, in those big moments, someone has to make a clutch play. So, we're focusing on that every single game, knowing that we're going to have to make one of those plays coming down the stretch here. What would it mean if you're able to finish this one off and get to the final four of this playoff? What in your mind just, would this be, you know, just the ultimate, I suppose, to be a team that's already beaten earlier this year? No, I think the ultimate would be winning the National Championship. So, you know, we're focused on this. This just happens to be the next team in the way. We're not focused on where we played them earlier this year, whether they got the win over us.

1:53:12They're just a nameless, faceless opponent. So, we're going out there, fully prepared, not worried about what's happening in the past. You know, we played them before. We felt the mouse. So, it's all about who got better from that point in time until now. Thank you. You know, evaluate and grow a new group of guys. I think in spring, I think our opinion is, you know, by fall, everything, the team, the team, the team, it's what it's all about. But in order to add to a team, in order to add to a collective, you got to focus on the individual. Individual must improve so the collective can improve. And so, building the base, I think, schematically and fundamentally, culturally, is what we're attacking as we head into spring. How much is Brandon looking forward to a different spring, a different opportunity? I know it wasn't fun for him. Having to take a little bit of a backseat to him, not him. Where do you see him, the fire, the passion right now? Is he gets right for this one? Yeah, I think when you come out of a season, you get out of January and kind of take a breath. Then when you get back in the winter, it's the first opportunity to reestablish the new role that I want to have.

1:54:21I mean, across the board, there's not one guy that doesn't want to improve roles. So, I think they're all attacking it that way. I think Brandon's one of them, but he's one of 50. And I think that it's our job to provide opportunities to grow, to separate themselves, to see peer-to-peer evals, to allow these guys to check a chase a role. At least through the winter they've gotten that started, to continue that through spring. And I think Brandon's, you know, fits in line with that. I think Brandon did a great job looking back of finding his role last year and excelling at it. You know, we talk a lot about if you want to be a starter, you have to be a starter before you start. And if you're not, they're never going to be the starter. So, I think he embodied that. You know, he gave himself an opportunity to get into spring and get into us. He's made into winter, continue who he is, continue to build his base, build his leadership. And then now he's got to get that in spring.

1:55:21So, all the great things you do prior doesn't mean anything. If you don't have to go out there and do it in spring. So, you know, that's the harsh reality of this sport. You know, what have you done lately? And I think all these guys are chilling at the bit to get back on the field. Brian, everybody brings their own experience. Ryan was a quarterback, you were a receiver. And then to become a play-puller, I obviously have an understanding of the whole offense. But what was the process like for you up protections and the run game and quarterback play and just continuing to grow with your... knowledge of that part of the game as you prepared for this position? Yeah, I mean, I think you're always growing. I think that, you know, you still have a specialty here. You still have an expertise in one area. It's seen you have an expertise in all of it. That's just not true. And in my opinion, I've seen multiple coordinators. And I know that as a fact. So, you know, for me, I think it's just...

1:56:21You have an opportunity to be with the best staff in America every single day with the best coach in America. So, just stay off your phone and pay attention and take notes and actually maximize your time. It's amazing the amount of people that don't do that. So, every time I'm in a meeting, I just try to make sure I'm getting a nugget or I'm getting information. Or when things are said, do I truly understand it? And I really, guys, will tell you, I don't care. I'll ask the question. I think I'm, I look dumb, but I don't care because I want to know the information. So, I think that approach, I think a lot of guys have that approach. That approach allows you to just build, you know, over time. And then that'll continue to build from now to game one and then build through the season. So, the opportunity to grow is literally daily. So, I just try to make sure I'm finding those opportunities. I'm aware of those opportunities when they're writing my face. I think they're going to do a role in the offensive meeting room. How important is that it's a tool that I think you guys are doing? Yeah, the coach Jordan's always been a huge part of other receiver room. I think that, yeah, he's just understanding that, you know, my pull away is real.

1:57:28That can happen. So, he's going to be on his toes and be ready that, you know, we're ready to not skip a beat, right? So, information wise, communication wise, he's got to be locked in on that and just time to assume that, you know, coach hard's got it. He never really has. I expect him to continue to do that. And, you know, he's been a big part of everything we've done. Is that almost like taken from what Ryan did last year, where he shipped away from play calling and handed that to somebody else? And he should think away from being a quarterbacks coach, where like, you have somebody you trust and how long did it take you maybe to develop that trust and that relationship with them and to where like, you know that, hey, if I'm pulled away from that, I don't have to worry about like, what my room is. I think it's more important that I do a great job being organized. So, I'm never pulled away. I will be in that receiver room and they will be coached at the very highest level. So, I think there's ways to eliminate being pulled away by being organized on top of things, having the right work and working, right help before that receiver meeting ever happened. Is that important for you? Is that the question you've got to emphasize? Nothing is going to change in terms of your, I never, there's no, nothing's going to change in my involvement in the receiver room.

1:58:36Ryan, for my land to be going through a full spring, Coloxy, for the first time, what do you look at everything? Is there is, he can throw it in the push for playing time is here? Yeah, I mean, my land is, he's doing a great job. He's growing on exponential rates, getting stronger, getting bigger, he's got way added. I would tell you, I always explain to him, you don't realize how much you miss when you come in June versus the mid-year, it's massively different. Not saying you can't overcome it, some do. At the end of the season, some have, but I think that's probably reliant on the room. You know, I know Chris had an opportunity to lay a lot of a, you know, in the season to kind of make an impact, but it's very, very rare. So, and now, you know, he's going through the winner workout, his growth, his everything he's done, he's like, hey, Coach Hart, you know, I know what you're talking about now, and when you miss that, that section of winner workout. So, that being said, it makes you laugh, but he's doing a great job. I have expectations for him through spring, and I don't see that changing.

1:59:36The only staff, the only staff this year is younger than it's been in past years. I think it's a makeup book, so if that, you don't have somebody who's maybe using it. What's the average? It's like the average, like 30, 30, is the average age? Is that include support staff? No, it's just the primary. What's it, what's it been in the past? A couple minutes, two more minutes. No kidding. Yeah, we don't know yet. Kevin Wilson. I don't know. Dan Laning's the head coach in Oregon. I was his average. I'm asking. I don't know. I'm 38. Kenny Dylan Hamles. 30s. So, I don't know. I gave zero thought to that. I think that, you know, I think your ability to kept with players is important. I think you probably see a little bit of that happening in the NFL as well. I really have given zero thought to that. I don't want to just ramble on that. Yeah, I just didn't know if it was the thought of the manager. No thought to it. What's the next step for him? Because we've heard him talk to him about like, he's a mystery consistency catching a lot of things.

2:00:39He seems to generate a little bit of buzz, but has limited role. Like now he's got an opportunity. What's the next step for him to get that out of here? Take the next step and be a, be everything he's capable of being, right? I mean, I think the guys that, you know, we're out there are, you know, very consistent in all job faces, you know, like, again, I think he wants to be a full rounded receiver. You know that. I think he loves playing in the slot. The great job there. I asked him to come out to the outside a little bit. Did a good job out there. I think it's natural positions and is it is in the slot doing a great job there. But it's just another opportunity to establish himself based on his peers, right? I mean, it's kind of like the draft to try to explain sometimes to these guys like you come to Ohio State to compete with the best. It's always pure to peer evils. Like that's how it works. Like the draft embodies that. Like if it's easier to go play somewhere else, then that's fine. That's what we're kind of looking for. I'm not saying that's pricing. I'm just saying it's a very competitive room. And you chose that because of this room. Now you got to beat your peer to play more, play more and do more and all that stuff.

2:01:44So, you know, I think that you got to continue to build worries at. And the guys that seem to be, you know, starters in our room, you know, really I think over the last eight years have been NFL quality guys. So if you're and it become a star in Ohio State, it's a good chance. You're probably NFL caliber receiver. I mean, again, just go off the numbers. So you're chasing that can't get discouraged. Or maybe not being, you know, not doing what you think you should have done. And that goes for everybody. It's not just Bryson, but all these guys are chasing that as I rambled about Bryson. But, you know, I think that it's not just him. It's at BI. It's car now with everybody wants. It's chasing a higher level of play. And this spring is another step forward to do that. What you're doing, you're trying to play on how much in your estimation is that a gift? Do we have to do it? How much of it is learned? Where do you stand on that? Oh, never gave it a lot of thought to it. I've never I've never called a play in a game.

2:02:45So for me to have an opinion, I think that'd be a little brush. I would say that like anything, it's probably a skill that you can improve on and do better at and do good. Do worse at. I think being surrounded with guys and seeing how they do it has been a blessing. And it's very clear. There's more than one way to do things. So being being aware of that. I've noticed that. What's your impression of the refreshment and how they maybe transition to your play? Yeah, all four freshmen. I'm like very encouraged and pressed with. They carry themselves the right way like we have hoped. They worked their tails off. If all improved, I would say that they're the right mode with the right fit. They belong in the room. And now they just improve. Now they're competing both, you know, first individually between each other. And then, you know, as we get into spring, they'll start competing against each other. But there's some guys want to mean by that. So, but as a group, the freshman group are very impressed and they're off to the right start. Coach Arland, thank you for picking back off each other. And it's like no one is hired in the room. They coach a lot. So that kind of allows the room to stay balanced.

2:03:51Do you feel like you're more comfortable now than the one in the spring that's been going on? Definitely. I was, I definitely would have them times where I was like, man, my like in the right spot or my center right thing. But now it's just like, okay, I know what I'm here for. I know the player that I need to be to help this team out. Jay James is over there talking about the two or Sonny game. Yeah, French like that. Man, you know, we just we go run hard. We go, we go, we go definitely B physical and we go run fast. That's just our motto. We go run hard B fans and B physical. He said he's started you do you agree? Yeah, I definitely know. I'm more, I'm more, I'm more of the. How's it? I say I gotta I gotta do the dirty work. I'm cool. I'm cool. I'm cool. I'm definitely cool doing the dirty work. I like to see James, you know, as son of you know, the he's the more of the personality guy and I'm cool with being the, you know, the back hop. Yeah, I'll take it like that. Yeah, I take that. Who's losing the black stripe? You feel like you're, you know, officially a blackout ticket to the way the thought was there. I mean losing that black stripe, it was definitely especially day. I was kind I was so happy to finally get it took it off that I was surprised that it got

2:04:57Tick and I was like they say CJ Donaldson. Like they call CJ hit thing. They call me like I was grateful. You know, just don't allow me into the family. Because you know, it's definitely a loan and hard journey, but it's fair. Coach, today's talked about despite coming off a national championship. It's still hungry team. There are a lot of guys who were part of the team last year, but maybe didn't contribute as much as they wanted. Then there's a guy like you who's coming in and kind of adding to that. How hungry do you feel like this group is despite being sort of a defender? Each and every day we always talk about like we read a book called chop wood care. What how can we stick to the little things and just be persistent while we're face with adversity? You know, not again. So big headed not again. So low just trying to stand at middle range of. I know what I need to focus on and each day the runners do. Meaning like each and every day we have to go and put in some type of work to get what we want out of life. How much was that that current what's Virginia do high stage for us? But the opportunity come play for us? When I transferred, it was doing a rough time. It wasn't as how people seemed.

2:05:58It wasn't like that. I came here mostly because of the family hood and the type of coach I knew I was going to get. The first thing Coach Lotto told me was everything I'm going to get here. I'm going to have to earn it. So that was like one of the main factors. Like he told me he was going to bring a different personality and a different animal out of me. What time I'm like I need that challenge is important to be challenged. When do you guys read the book? The book chop wood care water. Each day on the summer coach make have us like read a chapter and we'll come in. We'll talk about it. It'll be it'll be all around the building everybody in the building to read it. And then we'll just consistently like pull phrases, paragraphs even now and can't we still talk about the book even though we are in the red books. So it's like something that we continually like just keep reiterating and keep repeating throughout the program. Coach make coach make coach make was the one who is leaving us. Someone like coach make coach day everybody was kind of leading but like he would tell us okay this day we read in chapter one we'll just keep going along, along, along throughout the book until we finish the book.

2:06:59My favorite part of book. My favorite part of book is when John Akira he told Akira told John that in order to be a samurai is going to take you 10 years. But in John mind he's like but what if I work twice as hard each day I can skip it to five I skip it to seven and each day he was saying like it's going to take you longer to continually become a samurai. If you think that way is each and every day you have to be consistent with the little things and in that 10 years span you will become a samurai trying to skip around and create loops and gaps and stuff like that you won't be able to become a samurai. The important part is being consistent each and every day with a chopper with a carry water throughout those first few years. And then by your 10th year you'll be like man I'm a samurai just like now like I finally got my black straight ball when I came in spring I was like man I can't wait to give my black straight ball. But throughout that book it helped me realize like I'm thinking about the wrong way I just need to be consistent on working on the things that I'm not good at right now and continually work on that and eventually I get my black straight ball. That last question.

2:07:59Students learn how to separate a day that's a church day for the mind you guys to get your mind through every what. The sexist game is going to be like everything surrounding and all the high ball and bad dreams and things like that. How often do you get college trying to just think about what that's going to be like to be in that stadium in that match up in that situation? Everything you came here for. Each and every day you got to think like that each and every day we play in Texas like today we had an opportunity to play Texas and then we win or then we lose that's important part. Did we get better or did we get worse and you know I definitely think we got better the day you know we always pushing each other deep as always pushing off as always pushing deep so it's important each and every day we treat it like the game is today not the game is whichever day I don't remember but the game is today if that makes sense. Thank you. Thank you. No, I didn't. Right. But I don't really pay attention to no big nickname but comparing myself to those people I'm my own person. I'll risk my own way. Yes, we might have similarities but like I said I'm my own person. I sure you said goal of being the sexist way to the show you got a different opportunity to do that. Is that what you mean goal for it?

2:09:00Yeah, 100%. But whatever, like I said, whatever was Jay and Coach Tristan you can do us one more time. What was the first thing that you get to get ready to move up top? I had to go away. I was two thirty five last year now I'm two forty two forty five you know. It's different from when you're blistering off ball being on the edge and consistently hitting somebody with three hundred plus pounds every single play. How'd you do it? Coach Mick, whatever he had planned for me I was making sure I was in his year Coach Kp, KLo always ask the questions. I always ask how much food do I need? Like what else do I need to add or miss plate? At what time do I need to eat things like that? Just constantly ask questions and help me become the best me I can do. So what sets Coach Mick, what sets K-Live, the entire nutrition department apart? I feel like they care. They really, they'll sit you down one on one. They'll be hard on you but you know I'm out of love. Coach they always talk about it. It's right here is tough love. As long as you put your part in they'll definitely put their part in. You work all out.

2:10:00How do you feel? I'm putting on the wings to pull against the same guy. You still want to stay cool and you still want to stay cool. How do you feel? I'm a focus is my speed and my get off. I feel like with me working with Coach Jay it's a lot of get off. A lot of making sure I'm still using my speed and things like that. So just helping him helping me just making sure that's still the asset of mine. Not making sure I'm losing that. What it seems like so often after practice you're working with Coach Jay. What is it about him that allows you to kind of grow and what do you like most about him? He's been around a lot of people. I worked with some few guys that he's coaching the past and I like the pickage brain and things that he sees and things that he can't help me on the edge. He cares as well. He wants to make sure that everybody's successful. Obviously you're on this team.

2:11:01I hope you're going to make it to the NFL. He's like I said he's been there. Just you have you kind of move it. Just being a straight up. You're coming up the end of the past. You're just dropping coverage or doing kind of different things. Anyway, whatever Coach what you're supposed to have me do, I'm going to line up and do it. What did you learn about yourself in the transition to a new position? A couple more questions. I love it. I feel like it's more fun rushing the past year but also in the same point in time. It's still a learning process. I know I don't have everything figured out. It's from constantly asking questions to you. Can you add a curry, Coach Jay and Coach Patricia? I want to be the best me. I can be and fulfill my potential for the best I can be. What are some of those areas that you're looking currently still so you can? I can touch that stuff to myself. What about learning process? It's like not getting smuggled. It's just a patient that don't let that drive you know.

2:12:01Can you explain some of that stuff? Yes. No, don't have something in your head. If you didn't go that way, you're still in touch. Yeah. Really it's just from moving off from being off the ball to on the ball now. Yeah. It's more of that looking at the floor picture and making sure I'm just looking at it. You got it. What's in front of you to Otaku though? Running back to Titan and with the quarter best looking at things like that. Yeah. Who did that best last year on this team? What do you mean? Saw that picture like that. Like your talk. That JTTC devil. A full picture in his head. I'm telling you stuff. What's going on? Obviously, Caleb. What do you mean? We just jumped out at you. I want to get to that level. Oh, refrigeration. Oh, Caleb 100%. You know, I feel like just being on a field, Caleb, Caleb, we'll call it the whole play before happens. Like even if you watch film and when watching film now, Caleb is pointing out where the ball is going before you even stepped the ball. Like, he'll point like this screen or anything like that.

2:13:01He's pointing to the position. Who's getting the ball? Does it drive the offense nuts? It's 100%. And then he tried to flip it and then he'll know that he flipped their flip. Yeah. So, uh, start to wrap it up there. You were, you want to be position wise now. I mean, it's taken a while to end up there, you know, for a full time. How did, how several of us that make you, how confident is that make you to make you want to come to your game? Um, I thought I was all part of the process. Obviously it's a different process now being at the end. And my goal now is to continue to keep my faith and trust in God. And to trust the process with close to it because I've got, I know what I can do on the edge. They know what I can do on the edge, but it's just to make us make sure I continue to fill my potential. I have a question from an unnamed source. Uh, it's very exciting. Apparently, you have somebody connected to me. How do you feel about different? Yeah, my speed, uh, I definitely feel quicker and more explosive. Just, you know, get out the ball and, uh, you know, just continually working on my short area burst as frequently as possible.

2:14:01So, do you want me to explain this room? Oh, you guys got that one. Uh, you know, what I thought about the room is that we don't always be a brotherhood and always be at one and all the times. It's been your experience so far here and versus the expectation. Obviously coming in, there's an opportunity to play earlier. A lot of opportunity to play a lot. How have you seen this place change you and has it been what you expected? Uh, been off the charts. Like, just, you know, they developed me like some day one like Saturday. I stepped on campus. We, uh, we know work, we talked about my even habits, uh, where I need to get to my body weight. Um, what I need to improve on until, you know, development to NFL running back and have an opportunity to, you know, to get to that level. Um, and just don't invest into me as much as possible. Like, they invest a lot. Does it surprise you? I mean, West Virginia is a powerful school very, very different. Do you see the difference quickly when you're getting to a place like last day? Definitely. The resources around Ohio State, you know, if definitely, uh, you know, have a.

2:15:06We have a larger, uh, uh, friendly resource around here. So that's definitely one of the biggest things that I could say that's different than, you know, my food was in the person. See, when you were back in December before you even started talking to Ohio State, what, what made you want to go on the board over? Where you get a situation change? Is that primarily the reason? It was, it was a line to, you know, you have to think about your family, um, you and like, what do you want to get out of this? This is my last opportunity, you know, guarantee I'm a chance to play football because the next level is not promised. You have to, as you say, earn that. So I just, you know, I'm just took a chance of myself, you know, you got better in a certain all times. Did you ever get any previous relationship with Coach Bob? Not at all. What, what kind of sit out from your first question to find me? He said he's going to challenge me and help me develop into a great man and a player. He didn't talk too much about football. He talked more of his personal life things. Did it, was it helped to see you? Like when Sean come in last year as a transfer? I just went back right away like this. Is that something you would get out of the way? Definitely. You know, I watch a Q game, you know, to see that Ole Miss when I kind of jumped on the scene too, I went to Dean.

2:16:10So I definitely like analyze this game a lot. And you know, him just being with Coach Bob, I can see it. I want to say a big difference, but you can see the little intensibles that he added on to him to help his game, you know, develop in that way to, you know, now I have an opportunity to be a high jackficken and I say. I just lost it. I'm just trying to 230 pounds up and listen. 238, he says he likes you. 238, why is that? 226 actually. Why did you want to use the way he wanted me? He wanted me to be more explosive and have a more short area burst. That's something that I like in my game and he can tell me the work on that game there. That's what there's a lot of like how is it now? But that's amazing. He's going to coach him hard, but he loves it and he does it because he loves me. He loves all of it. Like, you go coach him hard, you go push you and you go hold your accountable, but he does that because he loves us. What are you thinking about this overall and how you've been activating into the program? Amazing. I got one of my great friends right here. You know, that's big growth. You know, take me under his wing, tell me the things to do with what not to do.

2:17:14Because he was transferred just like me too, so he tells me like, you know, do that. We don't do that here. Do this. We do that here. So, you know, just you know, the family, you know, that I got other guys on team who I pre-soupade against, like Jeremiah Smith, Brandon, and his Kiyada. So I kind of was like familiar with like a couple of thousand team and they're trying to bring me along as I was transferred into the program. He's called, what was the little things you did to get the 226? Did you realize that you were kind of when some of the changes that you made did get you lost? Yeah, less. The dietitian helped me schedule our meal plan. The times I need to eat what I need to eat, what I need to stay away from. The time I need to go to bed and stay on a team that allows me to, you know, to tame the doctors quickly and as... How should I say this? As quickly and as the right way of possibly that is, is like to swim it down and make it, you know, still work for me as so I can be a factor in the balance. I can't imagine your diet like different foods. Was there a moment when you were like, there was not a lot of culture in this kind of thing?

2:18:17Did you ever remember, you got to work at the bank, you know, every time? Yeah, James Feet was, you know, he's great competitor. When I first got here in the winter, he pushed me day in and day out. I still remember this. We was doing sleds and you know, we were kicking my butt day in and day out. But you know, that has helped me, you know, improve my game and step up as a parent. I need to be. Did you, last question, what was the situation you were gaining this audience? Did you have an audience? You know, just the style of the audience, you know, we had more balance, you know, we, more like the NFL, say, as you would say, we had our players infected and these and to the best of their abilities. I was looking at some of the risks that I was getting at. I remember the seven and eight men boxes in the pop. I don't know a few of them. It was anything, I love your cod, but wanting to go to an office, have her back, maybe you have deep sense of how this is going to work. I don't know, I didn't even consider you. One of the higher players in the country, since my time in town. I didn't, I was praying.

2:19:18Thank you for telling me that. They're executing on all levels, making clink as a dog, man, doing the dog, I love both of the boys. Yeah, I think you're not the best chance to win. What's special about both of them? I think what Junior made is just a long time to make anything on the field. It's very, very common diverse in the pocket. I think with Lincoln, man, it's just the, you know, just the feeling you get when you're in the hundredth and the confidence you have in them and that, you know, just that feeling of just to enough is. How much is that? I'm not sure how they are. Well, it was very different in the way that you've led, really. Even compared to the guys that were here at your point. I don't know if it's that. As you get older, how much does hevership in the, in the puddle, how much does hevership in the lockers? Start to weigh different than ever. Well, I think that the quarterback position is, man, it's everything, but just in general, I mean, I think it's everything. I think everything ought to feel translate to own the field. So I mean, how you do something on the field, how you going to do it off as well.

2:20:20So I mean, it's hand in hand. I think, and I think we got the guy to do that. I don't think it's so different. I don't think that we're taking the job or a step back. I think we got the guy to do it on both 12th and after few. Brian, you've been patient, you've waited for your turn. How excited are you, like, this season, to have this, like, impact, like, you've had some tough, tough, tough impact decisions? I'm super excited. I've got to play the game. I've got to win. I've got to compete. I feel like I'm really, really good again. Like I said, I'm really, really good. I'm looking at my goal, I'm going to show what the best for Super Junior play in America. You guys have had great run. Do you think the un-step for people outside of this building, like this year's where we're from? It's the best of us. Like, people know the top two are great guys. But they said deep work. Yeah. Yeah, I think, like you said, it's a deep room. We help each other. We're deep in every position. And I think that just goes to show, like, when you come here, you come and play at a lead level. And that's on our factories. That's a run game. That's catching the ball. That's, you know, doing something for your teammate,

2:21:20understanding the concepts of the offense. It's just, we're not about to go ball out. With this respect to Akron, how much more urgency is there in camp to be ready for week one, considering the opponent that you're playing Texas this year? No, absolutely. Definitely, it's definitely, it's definitely how to man. You know, we got Texas week one. We had a battle with them last year in the CFP. They've, we've got much got a good understanding of what they do. They probably got to get it in the stand and what we do. But at the end of the day, it's because you got to spot the ball. You got to play it. And I think that that's what that is going to be true. Let me just take you there and just spot in the ball. Execute them better than them and play harder than them. Get the hardest to play in America. Can you, I expect that to develop more and more into a leadership role, which we already feel and, you know, be a mainstay and bring along that online group. Which we're excited about. So all of us is a big part of that. Brian, I think it was around the summer last year, where people were talking about branding of such a big leader behind the scenes. And I know he didn't play maybe starter snatch last year,

2:22:20but how important was he to just what you wanted that room, the chemistry to be and how much growth you've seen from that. Yeah, brain, brain's always been a big part of our senior wise, culturally. He drives it, he helps run it. Carnell was taking a big role in that as well this year. Frankly, all those guys are stepping up. You know, Carnell, JJ, David Adolf, you know, these guys were all, have made progression. But from a leadership standpoint, those guys are really trying to take over with, with B at B at B at B at the forefront of that. So I expect that. And that's good. He holds himself to a high standard, but I want him to start bringing even more and more guys at all. And that's the best thing that Jeremiah does. And plays the raps when he doesn't have that. You know, I think that best thing Jeremiah does is just, he just always wants to learn. So, you know, as a coach, you can't, you know, baby him. You can't like put him on a pedestal. He does not want that. He being held accountable.

2:23:21There have been opportunities that he finished more without the ball on your hands, turn up field. I identify it. He applies it. Like, so, I'm not going to say there's one individual thing in the ball's time as hands. I think just overall for him, he's always trying to learn. He's always trying to contribute, whether he's that, you know, he knows there's a decoyish mentality or a block of mentality. This is a big guy or whatever that role is, he just loves learning the why. And then I'm applying it in that role in that play. We had a training called last week, which they talked about, maybe take it the biggest stride, it's not about anyone in terms of leadership. It's all season. Did you guys have the push-and-out? Was that all kind of him naturally kind of stepping into that role? No, it's more him for sure. There's probably a conversation that was had, obviously, that, you know, we know your capable of this. Why not be this guy? Whatever those conversations are between myself, approach making, coach day. But ultimately, you know, players apply.

2:24:24Players choose to do things. We can recommend and suggest all we want. But ultimately, players are responsible for making plays and making changes. So, yeah, I would agree with coach. He strides in our love for him for it. He's the right kind of guy for it. He's the right kind of guy. The role of no BS kind of guy. A lot of guys have a lot of respect for him. So, doing a great job after we love it. And then there's conversation that had where we're seen. And then a lot of sees really taking the reins of it and ran with it. All right. Go ahead. Talk to the board about what it takes and what kind of a second group to get us to feel that we're placing those guys. Are you seeing that maybe more of an opportunity to have some rotation this year, given what you've gotten in terms of experience and whatnot behind? Yeah, there's always a chance. I mean, there's so many reps being had in practice. And you're either, you know, playing at the level of the guys that are starting,

2:25:24or you're not, um, ultimately that's what it comes down to. Right. So, if you can match the execution level and or a bet or whatever, ultimately the film tells you who should be on the field on Saturdays. And at what point in the game, you know, whether it be situational or not. And, um, guys maximizing his rep opportunities ultimately dictates how that works. Right. So we've got lots of reps, really inspiring. And we got two fields going. We got tons of reps happening. And more times than not, it kind of shows itself. But yeah, I do that frankly every year. It's the same opportunity, but those guys just have to do it. And, um, you know, you love defining roles, but guys define roles. And they earn ways. And if you keep it that way, ultimately the respect in your room and in the position room on your team, should, should stay true. And so a lot of competition right now, a lot of good stuff happening.

2:26:27We're just going to try to see who does it more consistently over time. Every time that we've talked about, it seems like it's been a more yet to catch up. A lot of you are all familiar. Like, it's like a past with them. Where have you seen it? Take the biggest step. You can help. It's just the spring to the last. Yeah, I think him going through his first spring really helped him first winner really helped him. Um, being grounded for his first for a summer, you know, instead of like showing up and having acclimations for a month before you actually get into it. I mean, all of those things. You know, almost makes you feel like you're. In your third year, like for Jeremiah, or these young guys that came in this year to come in January. But at the time you get to your second year, you almost feel like it's your third year because you've. You know, worked with coach Mick, you've had a spring. You've had a summer. You've had a fall camp. You've had a fall season. And you're like, gosh, so much second year. I always say when you come in June, it's still all new until you get back to June.

2:27:28And so. That's what you know, my own experience, my own now, I mean, he fully understands that there you don't understand it. I'm good. I'm good. You don't realize it. So, um, yes, I mean, it's your question long windedly. I'd say that. Um, my mom's in a really good spot. And he's put himself in a position to compete for getting on the field, whether it be offensively or special teams. I expect him to earn roles in special teams, even before you even get on offense. That's how we're built here. Right defensively and offensively. You can't get on special teams. I don't know how you expect to put it off of the defense. So, um, you know, the guys on special teams are the best football players. Period. So those guys, um, I like to see mine in that light, but obviously, you had a great spring. He's growing and I want to see him keep building on what he's doing. You know, don't want to have step backs. I know he's not going to understand the progression. He's honest. It's really good. What kind of asset is that? Yeah, I love really enjoyed giving the no Tyler.

2:28:29Um, I think really how they have his football IQ and his personality and how he commands. With his room and his guys and how he pulls relationships. Um, the overall. Having Tyler in the building is really a great honor, a great, a great, a great situation. What do you do? Well, I mean, I can't say that anything like it's only day two. So like we're going to see about the body of work. These guys have, uh, they've been a pretty good job of making the plays. They're supposed to make. Um, and then we'll go from there. This day one day to install. We're looking at the body of work for guys to separate themselves. Not just today. The quarterbacks, though, just kind of a general. What do you look you to see first day, second day, third day? Consistency, which you do most often is exactly who you are. So. You consistently make the play. It's just the communicate. It's just loud because it's a energy consistently to parallel.

2:29:31Whatever that is. Uh, the look, the consistency level of anybody. Most of the dictates. Your identity. So we're chasing that to early right now that speak past that. But like, where did he build? I talked yesterday about. How important the cadence is with the quarterbacks. What he's looking for there. Have you seen both those guys deliver what you're looking for? It's going to go job they're going with it and the interstance weapon. I'm. David eight off on the. The perfect. Working out there. You have a time. You have to think of that. And have that time. Yeah, I think anytime you can work together. You know, you can't. You know, you can't. You know, push the guy. Let's the relationship is built first. So. The faster you get the relationship built, uh, the quicker you can get to, uh, uncomfortable conversations. I mean, ultimately you grow. So, uh, building up a relationship. You know, I'm. I'm, uh, I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm.

2:30:31I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I know. Yeah. I know. I'm. I'm. Uh, So. I'm doing the foundation is still number one, and those guys doing that on their own, is. From here. One is some. I think some. on their own time. And so it feels a little more ownership, I think, at times when you do stuff like that. But again, ultimately, it's just the bond going. What's up? What's new? What's new? It wasn't there in January. But it's August now.

2:31:33Sam? It's the same. Oh, yeah, it's all personal. Oh, my God. That too. I guess not too. Yeah. Do you work with a little bit about the Cool Basketball obstacle? Yeah. That seems like a business score offseason. What can you learn about it, kind of? Oh, I lost. It was awesome. We were playing Cool Basketball, and we're literally trying to drown each other to win. Never didn't care. I mean, there was no files. I just want to know who could execute the plays. Coach is included. And literally when I say like nothing was off limits, there was nothing off limits. So one, the guys kind of who show up, the guys that compete, the guys, oh, that's right. I mean, on poor song, he gets a value of everything he does. It doesn't matter. Every coach is probably that way. Anytime you're around, people manage this. It's a human nature, if you're wired that, right? It was a lot of fun. I wish best. Who's the best player? The guys in the heart are just the best people. Cool basketball. I mean, that real basketball.

2:32:34Yeah, but like, that's what it says in the drive. That's the value. Yeah, I know. I could like, I think of our group. There was a three sum that was pretty good. Went all the way along there. But then me, JJ, who else beat him? He was up to you. No, I did not. Not at all. We lost the first one. We were up to get. But it was, it was car now. It was B.I. and it was Lincoln. Those three, we could not, they went for a run. Good seven or eight alone. We've got some bad turnovers in our first game. We were identifying as the toughest competition. God, you have to plan again. But there was like, the eighth game. And we dominated. We've heard a lot about Lincoln's athleticism. Like, how much does it show up in everything? It seems like the scene does involve baseball, full basketball. Like, do you see it everywhere? It is a competitive. I think that's the biggest thing that comes off on length. And it's enjoyable with the sports with him.

2:33:39It is on your side. I learned a lot. A lot of little things matter. All the techniques, stuff. We just try to take it all this time. And you know, you have to get what you expected when you sign on here. Obviously, it's pretty intense guys. This is kind of what you've learned. I know you've learned a lot. Oh, yeah, for sure. I'm new coming in. Everybody, everything is intense. High interviews. So that's good. Have you ever had a coach as intense as there's welcome? I get my high school coach. High school coach is a pretty intense team. Well, if you have any describe yourself as a professional basketball, you have a style. I say I'm pretty very versatile. I can't tell if I'm fast. I'm feeling like I'm pretty very strong. Pretty. But who's the way to do that? They try to put us all over the even place to right now. We all just working as hard as we can. Just James. You have to be a lot of luck.

2:34:39Yeah, of course. Of course, all of the guys, everybody ought to tap this everybody trying to just get out of your guys straight and make sure everything. Would you watch the ones they play like two backs of the lot? You know, obviously. We try. What does that tell you about the possibility of going into this season for you to step up? I mean, it means that they can have really some. I'm going to have to learn right now. I love your team. Does it seem like it's a big big glove? I mean, how would you describe it? I mean, I guess you just got to learn everything slowly. Of course, there's a lot to learn. But I got a lot of hope. You guys had a very unique experience all the early and early roles. You got a chance to go to semi-final. Some of you went to the Rose Bowl, get some of the Cotton Bowl national championship game. What was that like? How much did you think that helped you? That was incredible. Just to see how other leaders led in that position and just seeing what they did and how they prepared. I don't know how they helped a lot with everybody. What was the highlight of that time? Other than winning the national championship itself.

2:35:41Was there something that stands out to you? Just getting able to travel and get the meet-up. Everybody, meet all the players. Everybody I won the 90 and meet all the early and royalties that they've got. It was the most difficult part of making the transition from Liza to Boulin. What has been the hard work? I was really just living on my own, got to be independent. That's pretty much it though. Do you feel uncomfortable on that or do you still try to get a thousand as well as college students? Of course, there's adjustment, but I'm getting it just for you. How much do you have to do? Yes sir, money is 100% Do you have to have sure there anything else? It's hard to hold a business on the field in the future. I mean of course it's hard to miss a senior year. Last year kind of was some of this fun. What did you do to me? I think you did my stand right. It was an interview really good. Sorry to ask anybody, how did you get your shirt in college?

2:36:46I was a baby, my dad, my dad and my master's in college. Like once I was born forever. Why did they pick that? My dad looked up to me and I'm a junior so I'm just working again. I think you should be your first name tomorrow, right? Yeah. Okay so you could wear eight too. You got two choices. The way you train, the way you, you know, the edge to you, it's all that. And so he's the first one that's ever earned that and you know, the kind of thing with that. You know, you're out in front of another guy that's really stood out. All camp practices being watched and how do you see his skill set factoring in on the outside? What do you see as improvised? Yeah I mean I could play, we can play car now anywhere. I think his ability to learn an offense and be the, you know, the intricate details,

2:37:47throw them in positions, make a mistake, who never make that mistake again. So there's a good job of learning from others. I think he's, you know, the runs really well. Very, very clean from mechanics and footwork standpoint. And probably some of the toughest hands, you know, on the team, kept some of the ball in traffic. So it doesn't matter really where you put Cornell, he's going to take care of his job and be a competitive advantage. Well, with Chris or Brandon Lashy, the guys who maybe don't get him in January, and Roland in the summertime, violence, it seems like he's going to be in a similar timeline. What do you see in those guys in terms of how quickly they were able to pick things up and what you saw that they were starting to really get it. That maybe can tell you about what to expect from them. Yeah, yeah, my one came in in the June. And, but man, he's really done a good job of learning the offense, learning what I want, you know, what we want. I would say that he's a lot of pride in his work. He does not like having MAs, almost to the point where he tries to justify himself

2:38:50and why he did things like violent, you know, and he breathed. I appreciate that edge, I really do. You know, he's jumping in and trying to take reps. He's really doing a good job, you know, and I think right now, he's just chasing building a body of work to justify where he's at, right? That's the hardest part about coming to June. What body of work did you really, you know, develop, or prove into your peers or your coaches to really justify what you want to accomplish? Right, you guys know that. So that's what he's chasing right now. And just show and develop his identity as a full player here in Ohio State. I do that when I'm putting too much, because your tier point he's just behind because he wasn't here, but also this is like a hard room to play catch up and just give him how competitive it is. Well, I'll come through that coaching, through that making sure he's running his own race and not worried about it. Well, I'd say probably every snap you take is worth three, right? I mean, if you do something great, it's worth three. You do something bad, it's worth three, you know, it's not one minus, it's three minuses.

2:39:51So I'm not saying that's perfect, but that's probably a decent way to look at it. And again, at the end of the day, guys, I mean, your peers know your teammates know. And frankly, I just asked them, you know, and so he's chasing the group. That's why he's here. That's why they're all here. It'd be in this kind of room and hold themselves to high expectations. But, you know, the expectation of receiving what I want, that can't be an expectation. And so, you know, that's every athlete's challenge. But the work being put in is good. We're just working on working on stacking days right now. What do you see from Brandon's tie-down business? I mean, I'm not going to sign as a tie-down, but it's working with your group now. It's a wider seeer. What do you see from him? What do you like about him? You know, I think that, you know, it doesn't matter if it's him or I'm not. It doesn't matter if it's him or anybody. I mean, we're all trying to learn football at a high level. You're competing with your peers to stand out that I learn things quicker or I, you know, I make more plays.

2:40:51Whether those are your trying, you're always competing with your peers initially. And then obviously the whole room and then nationally you get the idea, right? So, you know, what's competing with all the other guys, the Mary, you know, Dorian and Miley and, you know, so JJ, everything. You know, he's got to head start, you know, I think that he's got strong hands, the bigger body guy. He's got to make sure he's not, you know, getting a tie-down body, right? He's a skilled athlete. He's definitely, you know, got some skills. He's working on his footwork and his mechanics. There's a lot of boxes he's working to check. And again, I think he's been doing that and attacking that with purpose each day, you know. But, you see your flash here and there? We're just looking for consistency, right? And that's just missing all these guys. And, you know, he kind of fixed that board. Brian, when you, this spring on a branded day, he's going to still a lot of this thing. What did you see from him that still stood out to make you guys think that he can be a legit contributor for the same as you?

2:41:51Yeah, I mean, we made a decision to get him healthy with his foot, this past spring. So, we missed a lot of spring. But I would say the way he carried himself and the way he was a leader, and then I would say once he was back, you know, Coach Micta has a lot of things to great guys and get feedback and hope guys are kind of, so he was a guy that, you know, impressed his teammates who was summer. He was a guy that was all gold. He was a guy that the leaders wanted to vote him on the leadership council. So, he earned all that without even playing football. So, how did he stand out? It was everything of the non-towing issues, everything off the field. He stood out in, and he said I continue bringing that day in and day out, but that was probably what he did to the summer to, you know, get back on track and stay on track. Right, they took Kelly Raven about what you bring to the table in the meetings, etc. What were those meetings like right now when you guys are confabin with us? It looks like a pretty nice collection of talent.

2:42:53Which way to go, etc. How did you get it from flowing out? I would say it's a combination of getting skill, you know, getting scheme installed, right? Not trying to scheme against your defense, but getting the install, the foundation built for the offense to build on top of, right? You want you to get to the season and things you want to do. You don't want it to be the first time they heard it. And so, it's a combination of scheme, you know, against your defense first, you know, you still want to compete. You still want to compete, you have a lot of competition, you want to have plays that work, versus defense. But you also want to build a great foundation on the install to where, you know, you can let it grow from there in a week one, two, three. So, it's a fine line. Now, as athletes, we're trying to build their foundation skill wise, right? I mean, the skills they will need to execute the plays, whether it be leverage based, whether it be mechanic based. You know, there's always a fine line of dabbing in both. That's what I want to say, because you are a player at the highest level.

2:43:54Is there only so much you can put in a player's head? You understand what I'm saying? I think that, you have to challenge that. I think you have to try to push that bar and make it really hard in the camp season, in spring season, to elevate that uncomfortable level, to make sure that the capacity level continues to grow. But I think you're very mindful of that in the fall of making sure it all makes sense. And then we always say, you know, drop in the bucket. Seems insignificant. But you get enough drops. That bucket's going to overfill. So, you don't want to take those for granted. But obviously, this time of year, whether it be physically or mentally, you're always trying to raise the bar and push that uncomfortable level so they can grow. Thank you. I can get one more. What's the easiest thing for refreshments to pick up one when it gets here with the hardest thing to develop as a wide receiver? I don't think it's just receiver.

2:44:56I think it's, you know, a private receiver. I would say that it's the detail in which we operate and the amount of things that go into a simple line on a paper. You know, it was me that joke. You thought it was just running a call round, huh? Yeah, so like, that's probably part of it. And then, based on the program they've come from, how they were raised, all those things. Again, we're trying to bring in the right type of guys. But most of these guys think they're working hard at the high school level. They have no idea until they get here. So, the amount of strain and recovery, I would say the lifestyle of being a lead athlete, it's just something that's really, really hard to learn. So, off the field, that, and then the amount of detail that goes into the simplest play on paper are both my little two-hours. Thanks, Brian. Thanks Brian. Is he like, does he like all you guys in the room?

2:45:59I mean, I'm not sure. It's probably something you got to ask him. But, you know, Jeremiah has played with a lot of great guys throughout his career. He's seen a lot of all the talent you can see in the world. But I don't know if he's ever in all, but I mean... You went all... Oh, and I, oh yeah. I mean, I'm not surprised at anything he does now. Like, I've seen him since I was nine years old. So, anything he does, anyone hand-catch, I've seen... I'm not surprised at anything he does. He was nine. Do you know this is not a... This is something special we've been making at nine? Oh, yeah, I mean... Coaches were coming up to us complaining that we weren't nine years old. Like, can we get their IDs and stuff like that? So, I mean... I mean, there's definitely some footage that we got to go find. But the place we used to make when we were younger and just to see where he is now is amazing. It seems very unaffected by all of the starter. Yeah. How did that happen? I think how he was raised. He's very level-headed. He knows his goals and what he wants to get done in life.

2:47:01And this is just one step of the way for him. Can I throw a back to Texas for a couple of questions on Zoom, Scotty? Yes, sir. We're going to start with Defon from Cleanland.com. Go ahead. Brandon, I want to go back to what you were talking about with Coach Day earlier. You know, whenever he talks about this team's success, he says all the credit goes to your players. It seems like the players think that he deserves some of the credit. How big, how influential has he been during the turnaround you guys have had these last few weeks? He's been a huge man. Coming here after that team of Northwaust, you know, it was heartbreaking, of course. But we came in here. We had a leadership meeting and he was in here. I mean, and then we had a team meeting after that. Hearing the stuff he had to say and we had to say going back and forth. We just, we knew we we have his back no matter what. I mean, there's a lot of stuff said about him and his family and stuff like that. But hey, here we're brotherhood and we're family.

2:48:01And we just we go stand by him no matter what. Our next question is going to come from Dan. Hope Dan go ahead. Brandon, I mean, I'm sure you came in here to Ohio State thinking you'd probably be starting here in your second year. But it seems like you really embraced the growth process. Just what's kind of that process that like for you of kind of embracing your role this season and continuing to develop? Yeah. In life, things doesn't go the way you exactly planted to. And that just happened. You know, things have been to Mecca last year that allowed him to come back. And that allowed me to learn more. And that's just how I see it makes me a better football player for the future. So yeah, I mean, yeah, that's it. Three more on zoom. Next one's going to come from Stefan. Means. Go ahead. Steven, but. I'm sorry. Yeah, you're good.

2:49:01Brandon, there are a lot of clips of you this year where you're super, super excited after a block. And kind of showing your emotion there. What about blocking do you love so much as a receiver? Just being able to hit another guy with all my power, the hardest I can without any consequences. Except if you accept a few hold, of course. But yeah, just bringing that power. I mean, I heard some of the defensive guys telling me yesterday they were like, bro, I hate to go against you. So knowing that from the defensive guys. I know what the other defensive guys are thinking like just keep bringing it to them. They're not going to like it for four quarters. That's my mindset. Next question's going to come from Danny Davis. Danny, go ahead. Brandon, what are your impressions of these Texas defensive backs? And this kind of we've seen from them on on, on, on, on, to them so far? Yeah, the last couple days we watched them. They're fast team.

2:50:01They don't give up many big plays down field. They're aggressive, but I actually know some of the DBs they have at corner there. I play with them. Well, I played with Malik Muhammad at SFE. So I might know him a little bit. And we have a watching them. They're fast team. They're physical. They're disciplined. But we just got to get the job done. Give any Malik stories or any any. What? Give any Malik stories or anything you remember about playing with them? Oh, um. Yeah, but I'm not going to say them here. Yeah, we'll just keep that. Our final question's going to come from Kurt Bowles. Kurt, go ahead. Hey, Brandon. One of the issues Texas has had the second half of the year is finishing. And what if you can speak to, and they had a trouble, obviously, in the peach bowl, you know, the blue was 16 point league. And you talk about finishing and having a killer instinct.

2:51:04And you guys obviously seem to have that now. Yeah, I think that started in offseason training at Fall camp. We always say go plus two. If you're doing a 10 yard pro shuttle, you have to go plus two throughout the line. And that's just finishing as well. And then fall camp, we had these long two and a half hour practices or whatnot. And we had to do these finishers. We called them ask for games late in the year like this. And we, um, I think Coach Day has a great, did a great job preparing all of us for these moments. And yeah, we just were ready to go. We have time for just a couple more questions in Columbus so we can wrap up with our other two guys. Bill Landis, Kings of the North. Brandon, um, maybe on the second touchdown run. It seemed like you took two players out of the play. First with your release and then with the guy you actually blocked. Is that, is that how it's designed? It was just, was it lucky to the guy decided to take off inside of the release? Um, it's actually designed for me to block the safety and lead the corner one on one with the running back.

2:52:08Um, but I was surprised that the corner actually came in so far. I'm not at least I think he thought it was a pass. But I think he was the edge of the defense. If you go watch that play, but I don't know, I don't really know why he came in so far. But it helped out for us and I made my block interior score. Is there any lesson there for, for like, and even a young receiver watching that, that even if you know I'm a play, you're not getting the ball. You're, you're intended to block, but you, you release has to be the all-point like as if you're going to catch a pass. Yeah, definitely. Um, every little detail matters and then type of plays. We were in a red zone there. So we say every yard matters to two yards. Um, so the block I made is just a testament to Kyle. Coach Hardline, prep, prep me throughout the week to make that block. Yeah. And final question, join confidence, Columbus Dispatch. And it will and then this has been throwing the ball to equal lately. Um, some of the, especially the way you guys have opened games. What do you think is this quick for you guys and for him and watching those plays? Um, a lot more confidence.

2:53:08I say throughout the year. Um, we were always there as offense. We had, we didn't know, we didn't quite know our identity. And now slowly, but surely, I think we found that and we're going to keep on rolling. And um, he's made some great throws and yeah. I'm sorry, Brandon, I do have one more steep. How long do you do the 24th out and 24th? Brandon, there's been opportunities for you to play a huge role on offense. And you know, the number of plays you play in game can differ from one week to the next. But the opportunity is coming sooner rather than later for you to be in every down player. Just what are the things you need to do in your game to take it from where it is now to be in every down guy? Um, I think there's a lot of things I could work on in my game. Um, I would say continuing to be football smart, my IQ, just knowing what the defense is going to do before they do it. Um, my routes always can get better. My hands always can get better staying in the jug machine. Um, work ethic, keep on top of it.

2:54:09Don't get, don't get satisfied with anything I do. And don't, don't get too big, don't get too low, don't get too high, don't get too low. It's what they say. You feel like a guy that, the people follow, it seems like just, in your mind, even the second year guy that you're kind of working toward being kind of a leadership type guy. Yeah. Um, I got a book to have guys that will take that role. Yeah. It's a great feeling, of course. No guys are watching what you do and listening to what you do. Um, but I just feel like we do that with a lot of players here and not just myself, but, um, the leadership we have on those teams is like no other. And that's why we got so far, I think. Brandon, thank you very much. Being over here, just what do you how did all you feel, call of that kind of helped mold you interview, are now? Yeah, definitely, definitely maybe like tough and like not afraid of like new change. And it's like willing to just adapt to my environment. What was it like for you coming in here as a freshman and getting to see this team go win an actual championship those first few weeks here?

2:55:11Definitely was a high motivated, you know, being a freshman. It wasn't really my team though, so like I really get it. So that makes like push me like that once, when it's my turn. I got put in the word. I want to be the same position, but with a ring on my finger. What did you learn from those guys just about what you need to do to have a chance to go accomplish what they did? So you just got to get don't let the past like affect you right and just yeah, I remember you got to be relentless. You got to put it to work. It's not easy at all by any means. It's got to be hard, but you have to do everything you do. What do you do as like the best attributes of your game that you're going to bring to this team? I would just say my size, my speed, I can take the top off the defense and I can play tough and physical. It's about that. It's the last year, and like we think back to the overwork last year. I don't know what that was going to be. What has the last kind of year been like for you? It was like a lot from the player that was kind of calling it a process to it.

2:56:14It even comes to it. So I think it's a transition to see through this. How has this last year come to terms with you? I was definitely changing my mind because I was always on my sophomore year. I was hurt and my junior year, I got hurt during track. I was able to, I was a high schooler, and this time last year, my career really picked up. It's been crazy, I must have another, but it's leading me in my corner, my coach's everything. I just give it a motivation to go. What is your relationship with Leipzig and the players? That's a big good. Before I even got a house they offered, and before I even knew who he was, I actually threw it with them a couple of times in the middle of the box. So I was trying to say, yeah, I was working with, I knew his head coach, and he invited me to come and run routes. I actually ran routes for a table in the right.

2:57:16If we was exactly at a like two, we first came to me and we had a lot more up. I got together, I was the freshman class, and he's working on anything. He's definitely got nice on. This cornerback in the years, I was pretty talented. How has that kind of helped you a lot in your freshman year? The cornerback? The cornerback. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And they definitely challenged it, and you say, as I always say, I just love being on it. And they make it hard for you. When you play this high level competition practice, then you go on a game, do like this. It's easier than the practice, and he's really good on stuff. Is there a moment of question? I think I'll look at it. Oh wow, it is. This is something that I guess I can walk on. I guess there have been kind of like a moment first. I realized. Oh wow, these guys are really good at this. Yeah, just like, I just first, like on high school, I would just take some like reps and every season.

2:58:17Yeah, I just had speed, and we catch the abilities, like face separation, and I come to college, and go, everybody's fast, everybody's big. So you have fun, new ways to get open, just really good. Push yourself through. Higher on tune. You think they get in the ball back coming out, but we was excited because we knew the job wasn't doing it. Bill Rebellion, Columbus, this way. You were a five star guy, and that coming up. All these guys in the room almost were five star guys, and then there's Jeremiah. Does he like all you guys in the room? I mean, I'm not sure if it's probably something you got to ask him, but Jeremiah has played with a lot of great guys throughout his career. He's seen all the talent you can see in the world, but I don't know if he's ever in all, but I mean. You and all. Oh, and I, oh yeah, I mean, I'm not surprised at anything he does now.

2:59:17Like I've seen him since we were nine years old, so anything he does, anyone hand catch, I've seen, I'm not surprised at anything he does. When he was nine, do you know this is not a, this is something special we've been making at nine? Oh, yeah, I mean, coaches were coming up to us complaining that we weren't nine years old. Like, can we get their IDs and stuff like that? So, I mean, I mean, there's definitely some footage that we got to go find, but the place we used to make when we were younger and just to see where he is now is amazing. And it seems very unaffected by all of the starter. Yeah. How did that happen? I think how he was raised. He's just, he's very level headed. He knows his goals and what he wants to get done in life. And this is just one step away from him. Can I throw a back to Texas for a couple of questions on Zoom, Scotty? Yes, sir. We're going to start with Defon from Cleveland.com. Go ahead. Brandon, I want to go back to what you were talking about with Coach Day earlier.

3:00:19You know, whenever he talks about this team's success, he says all the credit goes through players that seems like the players think that he deserves some of the credit. How big, how influential has he been during the turnaround you guys have had these last few weeks? He's a bit huge, man. Coming here after that team of Northwest, he knows heart breaking, of course. But we came in here. We had a leadership meeting. He was in here. And then we had a team meeting after that. Hearing the stuff he had to say. And we had to say going back and forth, we just, we knew we would have his back no matter what. I mean, there's a lot of stuff set about him and his family and stuff like that. But here we're a brotherhood and we're a family. And we just, we don't stand by him no matter what. Our next question is going to come from Dan. Hope Dan go ahead. I'm sure you came in here to Ohio State thinking you'd probably be starting here in your second year. But it seems like you really embraced the growth process. Just what's kind of that process been like for you of kind of embracing your role this season and continuing to develop?

3:01:23Yeah. Life things doesn't go the way you exactly planted to. And that just happened. You know, things happened to Mecca last year that allowed him to come back. And that allowed me to learn more. And that's just how I see it. It makes me a better football player for the future. So yeah, I mean, yeah, that's it. Three more on Zoom. Next one's going to come from Stefan. Means. Go ahead. Steven, but. I'm sorry. Yeah, you're good. Brandon, there are a lot of clips of you this year where you're super, super excited after a block. And kind of showing your emotion there. What about blocking do you love so much as a receiver? Just being able to hit another guy with all my power. It's hard like, yeah, without any consequences. Except if you accept the few hold, of course, but yeah, just bringing that power.

3:02:26I mean, I heard some of the defensive guys telling me yesterday they were like, I hate to go against you. So knowing that from the defensive guys. So I know what the other defensive guys are thinking like, just keep bringing it to them. They're not going to like it before quarters. That's my mindset. Next question's going to come from Danny Davis. Danny, go ahead. Brandon, what are your impressions of these Texas defensive backs? And this kind of we've seen from them on on to them so far? Yeah, the last couple of days we watched them. They're a fast team. They don't give up many big plays down field. They're aggressive, but I actually know some of the DBs they have at corner there. I play with them. Well, I played with Malik Muhammad at SFE. So I might know him a little bit. And we have a watching them. They're a fast team. They're physical. They're disciplined. But we just got to get the job done. Give any Malik stories or any any.

3:03:27What is it? Give any Malik stories or anything you remember about playing with them? Yeah, but I'm not going to say them here. Yeah, what's this keep that? Our final question's going to come from Kurt Bulls. Kurt, go ahead. Hey, Brandon. One of the issues Texas has had the second half of the year is it's finishing. And what if you can speak to, and they had a trouble obviously in the peach bowl, you know, blue of 16 point league. Can you talk about finishing and having a killer instinct? And you guys obviously seem to have that now. Yeah, I think that started in offseason training at Fall Camp. We always say go plus two. If you're doing a 10-yard pro shuttle, you have to go plus two throughout the line. And that's just finishing. I was well and then Fall Camp, we had these long two-and-a-half-hour practices or whatnot. And then we came out and we had to do these finishers. We called them Asperg Games, late in the year like this.

3:04:29And we, I think Coach Day has a great, did a great job preparing all of us for these moments. And yeah, we just were ready to go. We have time for just a couple more questions and clumpets so we can wrap up with our other two guys. Bill Landis, Kings of the North. Randy, try to be on the second touchdown around. It seemed like you took two players out of the play, first with your release and then with the guy you actually blocked. Was that how it's designed? Did you get lucky to the guy that decided to take off inside of the release? It's actually designed for me to block the safety and lead the corner 101 with the running back. But I was surprised that the corner actually came in so far in my lease. I think he thought it was a pass. But I think he was at the edge of the defense. If you go watch that play, but I don't know why he came in so far. But it helped out for us and I made my block and turned off score. Is there any lesson there for like, even a young receiver watching that, that even if you know in the play, you're not getting the ball.

3:05:30You're intended to block, but your release has to be at all point as if you're going to go pitch pass. Yeah, definitely. Every little detail matters and then type of plays. We were in a red zone there. So we say every yard matters to two yards. So the block I made is just a testament to Kyle coach hardline prep me throughout the week to make that block. And final question. Joy Conference, Columbus this batch. And will and then this has been going about the equal lately, especially the way you guys have opened games. What do you think is his click for you guys and for him and watching those buzz? A lot more confidence. I say throughout the year. We were always there as offense. We had we didn't know we didn't quite know our identity. And now slowly but surely I think we found that and we're going to keep on rolling and he's made some great throws and. Yeah. I'm sorry, Brandon. I do have one more steep. That way you do 24-7 sport. Brandon, there've been opportunities for you to play a huge role on offense and you know the number of plays you play in game can differ from one week to the next.

3:06:37But the opportunity is coming sooner rather than later for you to be in every down player. Just what are the things you need to do in your game to take it from where it is now to be in every down guy? I think there's a lot of things I could work on in my game. I would say continuing to be football smart by IQ. Just knowing what the defense is going to do before they do it. My routes always can get better. My hands always can get better staying on the jugging machine. Work ethic. Keep on top of it. Don't get satisfied with anything I do. And don't get too big. Don't get too low. Don't get too high. Don't get too low is what they say. Do you feel like a guy that the people follow it seems like just in your mind even the second you're guy that you're kind of working toward being kind of a leadership type guy? I got to have guys that will take that role. Yeah. It's a great feeling of course. No guys are watching what you do and listening to what you do.

3:07:38But I just feel like we do that with a lot of players here and not just myself. But the leadership we have on this team is like no other and that's why we got so far I think. Brandon, thank you very much. Another thing of the toughest guys on the team when they get the touch? Yeah. We talk about it all the time. So if we want to show where the toughest guys on the team, you know, we can do that by showing where the hardest working guys on the team. We can show that we are the mentally toughest guys on the team. We can make sure that we don't ever get too high or too low and we play with passion and emotion without letting that emotion and passion play with us and affect us. And we talk a lot in the quarterback room about moving on to the next most important thing. So if I have a play where maybe I made the wrong read or screwed something up, I've got about half a second to kind of be bummed out about it. But I've got to learn from it and I've got to move on to the next most important thing because so many guys let that first play affect the next play. So we're really working to continue to grow from that.

3:08:39But as far as showing that we're tough, I even sell our guys that hey, if I'm, I don't know, lost in cerebell and I'm watching film and I see in the back of that film that Julian is up or Tavian is up, but Lincoln and the opposite of Julian and Tavian are standing in the back doing a mental rep. Like that gives me confidence if I'm Austin that those guys one understand what they're doing in two are committed to get better, right? And are going to be in position to be tough when we need them to be tough. So like little things like that are something that we're constantly working on to show that would be in that position. What have you seen from Lincoln in your first year working with him to help with what he's been able to do? Yeah, I've definitely seen a lot of growth from getting in here in June last year. And to what we're seeing right now, it's just a full year of understanding the offense, a full year of getting a feel for what we're trying to do and what we're trying to accomplish. And just my new details about where my eyes need to be, how I can tie my feet in with my eyes, how I can make sure that I'm not just throwing the ball to the right receiver because that's what I've re-dicated.

3:09:46But I'm also throwing it at the right time. I have accuracy within that accuracy that I just displayed by putting it on the right shoulder, right? Or the right to offset our receiver and throw them away from a defender or whatever that may look like. So that's what I'm excited because we're starting to see more and more of that from Lincoln as we've getting into two practices. We've only had two practices, but just that growth that I don't think is a growth that happened over two practices. The growth that happened from the time we got here and I got here in June through right now and that's a success. He said now, three quarter-veit coaches in three years. Three, like all there are three years, can that be like an advantage for him, understanding different concepts and different breeds, having to see things through different lenses because he's had so many different voices in his head. How do you kind of gauge that? Yeah, I mean, he's had different quarterback coaches, but the reality is it's been the same tasking. It's been the same system. So it's not like we changed the way we read a play based on who the quarterback coach was before.

3:10:52We made mistakes like tweaks, right, or adjustments, or you know, had a new concept in or two. But I think what Lincoln can get from having those three different quarterback coaches is maybe just three different slightly different perspectives where the message is still the same. So maybe it's just a slightly different delivery of the same message. And I think that can definitely be a advantage because he still knows, you know, on this concept, this is where my read is, but maybe he heard it a different way over the last three years. And I guess could be an advantage. If you are he's quarterbacks and they're supposed to be the toughest guy, the first guy to the last guy to lead, but they're all trying to do that. How do you then separate yourself as one of those guys given they're all trying to strive to do the same things, go to the stage bridge? Yeah, you know, I think the ultimately right is can I sustain it? I think every single one of them, I know every single one of them saw that quote by coach day, which you know, it's pretty awesome.

3:11:56It's so real. It's who we have to be. We've got to be the toughest guys in the building. We've got to be the hardest working guys in the building. So it's easy to go ahead and you know, do that and be that guy. You know, the next day after seeing that quote, can I continue to be that guy when we're in practice 11 of spring ball or we're in summer and we're going through workouts with coach Mick. And it's June 17th, you know, can I be that guy with that consistency all the way up through fall camp, it into moving on into next year. And I think that, you know, anyone can do something just once, you know, but can I be the guy that can do consistency? And if you look at anyone that's done anything great, it's been because of their consistency. What do you think being all the traits? Where does can't you be the quarterback at Ohio State, the kind of magnitude? Is the able to handle that position? What is that fit into your evaluation? Yeah, I think, you know, all these guys were a lot of that was done in the recruitment process. I'm confident all three of them can be the guy I don't want to say.

3:12:58I think that, you know, those guys already kind of check that box. So, you know, now it's just a matter of who goes out and it's a job. And again, we are so far away from that point, but, you know, when we're recruiting a guy, we try to figure all that stuff out. We're gathering as much data as we possibly can to learn about the person and to understand their mental makeup and to make sure that they're a fit. It's pretty cool up in the quarterback room. We've got pictures of all the, you know, greater Ohio State quarterbacks up on the wall. And, you know, you go through and take a look at those guys. You know, it's just pretty neat, but above all, you can talk about some of the different guys' mental makeup and what made them different. And so, how do we find those guys and bring them in and recruiting? And so, we get to the point like we are now where you feel really confident about all three of those guys that they are, you know, mentally tough enough and can be at that point that they can't be that guy. What do you think they learned the most from Will and the job he did last year overall? You know, close to that. Yeah, I mean, where do I start? You know, Will, when it came to intangibles was, you know, I haven't been, I can't say I've been doing this for 35 years or anything crazy like that, but was by far the best I've ever seen to.

3:14:08And just as far as what he did the best, you know, I think it just having such a complete understanding of the offense, you know, from the run game to the pass game to the protections. And just understanding, you know, the ins and outs and the little details and everybody's job and where, you know, certain concepts or protections or play styles were weak and how to adjust them if we were going to see something that made us weak there. You know, and having that total command because I think, you know, a big part of trust is showing that, you know, I'm competent and I understand. Will built that trust in his teammates by showing that, you know, he was extremely competent, you know, that he understood everything and all the ins and outs and he could tell everybody on the field what to do. And from there, then he built it, you know, grabbed on and grabbed the trust of all of his teammates and then he could start to lead. So, you know, the biggest thing, it's tough to say, but I think that everything that he did was kind of built off this total understanding of what we were trying to do offensively.

3:15:15Billy, thank you very much. Thanks guys. Appreciate it. Thank you. I'll just say everything. Make sure I keep all the details lost to him. What it cooks like to tell you that he likes it actually, is that the product is for the tackles, for speed, what does he like to do? I think that you like Marathal, the backfield and maybe like that. What's kind of your main, I mean, obviously as an insta kid committed to this class, what's your pitch now to other recruits who may like this is why you should join Ohio State 2020 Grand Class. It's a real family atmosphere. Yeah, everybody gets more and everybody talks to everybody. What'd you say? What's it get any kids to get to? No, it's a lot of people are turning back or what. Who's going to get to the back? Please bring it to the club. I've always looked up to BullJack and Washington's films. Do you, that's funny. Do you think that your voice down in Marathas for this perspective is just the way that he plays the most beautiful role in the market? No, I think that you want to go into it. You don't think I can, I think speed and card, yeah, I can actually.

3:16:18Who are the main guys that you're talking to right now to join this class? I'm really talking to everybody, the list of the group and that auto community. Any guys that you want to join the class, anybody at the top here? No, I'm sorry if you already got asked this, but coming up here as a recruit, as a committee here, what did you want to show today? What did you want to get out of this experience? It wasn't up in the show, nothing. I just wanted to get some work in with him a lot. How did you feel like that went? Obviously he's still relatively new here, but he seems to bring a little bit of a different energy than some of these camps in the past. I feel like it went good. Do you sense that energy? I mean, when you're out with him, he's different than other guys, right? I mean, how did you explain his coaching and some of the other running back coach you may have worked with in the past? I mean, intense. Did you talk to Coach Lachon when he met that guy with him? I did. So when did he get, or can get him out of there?

3:17:19Like roughly. Around like a half of the season, like not so far after season. I mean, was he kind of the same guy that he is now? So just in the new uniform, basically? Yeah. You guys obviously added Isaiah to the class, and there's no secret they would like to add another one. What are your thoughts on being in a class with three different running backs like that? I have no problem being in the class with another one. What do you like about Isaiah? I don't know Isaiah. You know Isaiah, do you know about him? Just damn down the first one. When you committed to some of the guys that we sent to you, you prepared for the game, particularly about the after the game. Not really a couple of linebackers taking our results. Come on, I have to learn, adjust to. What does Peyton bring to the defense? Peyton is a great downhill like thumping type of linebacker. Peyton goes talk with somebody, he's like a secure top player.

3:18:21That's what type of person Peyton is. How about that third linebacker role that you had last year and what to expect yet? I haven't really talked to him about it. We just, we are playing, we are there having fun, haven't we talked to him about that? How different is this fall camp knowing the spot that you're going to be in as opposed to a year ago when you have a COVID inside this? Well, it says too much different. I mean, I know the role I got coming in last year, I knew the role so I just tacked every day really the same way. It's taking a very rare physically different. Are you weight wise, body wise on that from the year ago? I think I got a lot bigger. I'm like 240, you know, like 240, 4 right now. Last year I played it like 236 to 37. What does it feel like at 244 or belly? You feel like almost a different machine out there. What does it feel like to be running around out there like you are? But with more, more back. I just feel like I'm like like like more downhill, like stronger, like I'm taking all the bloods better.

3:19:22It's big. Maybe that's not the correct term, but to think you're going to be playing much more than you did even last year and you played quite a bit last year instead of what do you have to get straight in your head about being on the field that much more? I just got to get ready to just play 30 more snaps. How would you describe how much you're looking forward to it from an 8-stand point? I'm looking forward to it. I'm ready for it. The Texas opener is a rematch. It's not really two different teams compared to the last time you all played and stuff. How has that enhanced this camp for you and this team getting ready for the corner of that magnitude? Yeah, with an opener like that, we've been emphasizing it a lot. We know we got coming, so we know we got to do it. We've been prepared for it. I think Riley ready to play right now. He advanced freshmen, like he in the book, he stood in like he advanced and his measurements was crazy.

3:20:22You said you're ready. What was that process like during last season? Could you feel yourself becoming more and more ready for whatever the team needed from you? That's pretty much what my role was, just whenever I was needed, I had to step up. I feel like that's what built me into me being able to say I'm ready for this year. When you say ready, is it more a physical thing? Is it a mental thing? When I say ready, I think it's pretty much like everything physically, mentally, mostly. A different is that feeling this year of analyze? Asked that one more time? I don't forget that responsibility. It was last year. Who knew you were a home player? I feel like it's a way bigger responsibility with me having to step up this year. But I kind of go about it the same way. Like last year, I was intentional with everything I did.

3:21:22I feel like this year is going to be the same thing. It's probably a little bit more. Some reason. That's what I'm saying. It won't work. How's everybody working? I was working. I say, describe my game. When you think of me, you would think of like a bullet, like a silver bullet. I don't really know what it is. That's how I like to play a thing. I don't really want to embody that. I ain't got to be my nickname. I'm not saying that the thing could be that. Oh yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's like. How does that fit the view? What are you going to show me about playing in that kind of style? I think it fit me because I don't know. I just like the defense. I feel like we got, like you said, we got a lot of freedom. We moving around a lot of the terms. I don't know.

3:22:22I don't really know how to answer that. That's okay. You can go on your instincts a little bit more. Maybe it's not so thinking of too much. I don't even know if I say that because there's a lot of thinking going on. I just like his defense. I like how the pressure defense. I like what he got going on. I wanted to say that. I was kind of happy for him. That's what he wanted. No. That's my dog. I'm kind of missing a little bit. I'm happy for him. Go ahead. Coach Daze talked a lot about the guys who played some last year. But maybe weren't the starters and the hunger for that wasn't maybe your national championship. How much do you feel that is the guy who certainly contributed last year. But will be in this bigger role and along with some of your classmates? Yeah, I do feel like. Yeah, I do feel like I did win a national championship. But like you said, my role wasn't the same as how it's going to be this year.

3:23:24So yeah, I definitely want to go get another one experienced that feeling. Maybe on the field. A lot more place. Great. How much pressure is on the state defense to perform to the higher level of respect? I'll be honest with you. Right. I would say that last year was, you know, we excelled in certain things. But we're also trying to get back to where we were in the past. So we got some great additions and we're excited for that. Ultimately it's to use some of these guys to be the number one defense in the league. And that's always going to be the goal. So whatever we can do to utilize all the different talent that we have on this team to be the best and play as a team. And to build the best chemistry that we got. That's what we're going to do. What's the answer about this offense? Just early in the game. What's the answer about this offense? Yeah, we're not used to going against the normal offense I have been the past three years.

3:24:26So it's been a lot more moving pieces. Definitely have to use your eyes pretty well because if not, then somebody's going to be open. But I like what they're doing. I'm very excited for it. I just know it's making our defense a little bit better because we're having to do different things. Not just the normal offense we've been used to. I was going to say just because every other team has some variations of their winning. And this is that kind of, do you think that'll kind of benefit you because you've seen that more than the rest of the week? I would say so. I mean, as the league has changed over time, I think they revert to certain offenses that do well in certain systems. I would say we're taking maybe a little bit pieces from other offense that we see to do well. So I like what we're doing. I mean, I don't know as much as some of these quarterbacks that we have on the team. Some of the offensive players, but I just know it's tough to go against. Hello, Stack member last year, but still one of the top teams scored in the defense. What do you guys really need to do to finish getting after the quarterback?

3:25:28Yeah, I would just say place heavy emphasis in practice. It's always going to start in practice with getting after the quarterback, not touching him in practice, but making some good moves. And I would just say rush, rush more. I mean, there's so much that goes into it and goes with the coverage. Everybody works together. I would say that we had, we had great numbers, but we do, we are trying to get that number up. But the ultimate goal is always going to be the ball. Getting the ball taken away, getting off the field. We're putting our offense out there on the field and we're staying off. That means that we're doing a good job. And you've already asked about it from a competition standpoint. But from a collective standpoint, having new wins tomorrow, we're going to do a little bit of a few. What kind of a cheerio can that do for a defense? When the sky is a limit with this group, I do believe we have one of the most talented linebacker core groups in the league. So just excited what we're going to be able to do out there on the field. I think we all compliment each other super well. Bigger guys that are explosive.

3:26:28So I'm excited for it. Thank you very much. I'm Oji's recently, but yeah, it's there. I'm excited. Maybe you see him sunny. The soft seems moving into the ball. He's really stepped up as our later of the defense. I mean, he's, you know, being in his room, I really get to see how he operates every day. Like he doesn't take a single rep off. He's not just like the most vocal leader, but he's also like he leads by example. Like he is one of the biggest, fastest, strongest dudes we have. But he's also the hardest working dude we have. Like he's he's never skipping out on recovery. You know, watching film literally everything. He's, you know, he represents what a buck I feel ball players should be in. Just learning from him every day. It's helped me in time. With the pressure you're not in my middle. Just every day. I mean, he's pretty, he's pretty athletic. He knows what he's doing to.

3:27:28He's a savvy football player. And so it's good having him and the locker right next to me. And I was just talking ball every day. You know, how he could have done this better and I could have done this better. It's just making each other better. And we're having fun out there and flying around. I mean, he's like the best guy ever. We're in the way. We have it all the same but not as he's also kind of, kind of, kind of, kind of clear. And how does that help him? He has a lot of experience. I mean, it's awesome having him because like he really does understand it. I would say he understands it more than most guys. Like he was a captain in all American here. You know, like the stuff he's doing today. Like every day he'll show some sort of, you know, every single week. We're going through camp every day. He's going, he's posting a picture of every all American linebacker we've had. And we got to learn about him. Like not just the brotherhood we have here, but the past brotherhood. So we learn new all American linebacker every week. And we got to learn what he did for the bug guys and what he didn't believe and stuff like that.

3:28:31So I think it's helped a lot. And then, you know, he's having the young guys learn the fight song and pop quiz in them. So it's great. We're having a lot of fun. We have a lot of fun. You go actually, you go actually, you know, you have to get acclimated to the stage. It helps a ton because heat. I mean, like when you walk in the linebacker room, you just, like when I walked in, I was like, man, this brotherhood is real. And I have older guys helping me when I got here because we had a pretty old team last year. And they brought me in and I came in on a food. And, you know, I didn't know how I was going to go. And they were all cheering me on even though like I was hurting the weight room. I'm getting cheered on in competitions and stuff like that. And guys like they know your name, you know, really, it's helped a lot. And so I think like this past year has really helped me, you know, bringing the young guys and, you know, help with them and stuff like that. We're super tight as a linebacker unit. So it's been great. Who's this week's All-American?

3:29:33This week's All-American. We had today was a pepper Johnson. So number 98, he's a baller. So we've had one every day. Like we've had different guys. So we had Spielman yesterday. So it's just someone new every day and it's fun. Did you get here? You know, Lauren isa's a lot of stories about them, which is some funny stories. He hasn't posted his yet. Eventually, I thank you all so. We'll go. You guys kind of like us. You guys are resonating with like, yeah, good guys. I think, I mean, I think all of them, they're just, they're so, like, they're so me that have come through here. And I think it helps like, there's a standard, like, you can play linebacker here. Like the goal should be the best linebacker unit in the country across the board and have the best linebackers. And so I think that it's really set a standard for us. Wait, does it matter to you? You're getting instruction from a guy. Been there done that. I mean, at the highest level, how much does it enhance what he's telling you?

3:30:35Yeah, 100%. I mean, it validates a lot of stuff. He says. And I think that's one of the main reasons I liked him so much is that he's not only our personal relationship is great, but like he knows everything about the game. And I'm learning so much every single day. And like, you can't, you can't find the coach. He doesn't know more about linebacker than he does. And he's been through every situation. He knows, you know, when the offense does this play, what's, you know, what's, what's hard for the linebacker on that play? And he understands it, you know, finds ways to help us, you know, get through those plays and stuff like that. What's the reason to be a football player? I mean, a lot. I was, I feel like it was one of my biggest accomplishments in my life. I took now, obviously, I think the goal one day to be a captain here, but I feel like, you know, being an ironbuck, having a big, big ass season or getting bigger and stronger, I think you just meant a lot because our teammates vote on it too. And so just knowing that like every day when we do those one-on-one competitions and leading guys, people are noticing that I was given everything I had.

3:31:38So it, it meant a lot to have coach make and all been, choose made a, get an ironbuck. When the class of this off season that you started, you kind of visualized some goals that you had and was that one of them? Yeah, I mean, I think right off the bat, right when the last season ended, you know, my goal was to be a starter and ironbuck and just taking steps every day. We read a book, chop with care, water, and it's a lot about living in the present. And so I think that's helped, helped all of us a ton, is like, what can we do today to be a very best? And so I think that's, that's what's helped me a lot. I mean, I still don't want really those. So I mean, we still got to play tennis. Are you just being, you know, the last question you did that, I mean, you never made me work. Or you getting your work, just being you, is that you're working at the Kenny? Yeah, I mean, my parents have instilled a, you know, strong work ethic at me and, you know, not backing down for many situations and stuff like that. And so I think just going in, you know, leading and giving everything I got every day is just, you know, how it happened in the world. Great, thank you very much. I mean, we're just all excited to go out there and get here.

3:32:44Okay, well, anyway, the fact that the way that this student fence has additions on every level, you know, talk about chasing other people to climb and have the draft being there, you guys have willing to second level in the third level, who they go on with Sean and the rest of them. How much pressure is on this student fence to perform to the higher level of expectation that we have to make? Right, I would say that last year was, you know, we excelled in certain things, but we were also trying to get back to where we were in the past. So we got some great additions and we're excited for that. Ultimately, it's to use some of these guys to be the number one defense in the league, and that's always going to be the goal. So whatever we can do to utilize all the different talent that we have on this team to be the best and play as a team and to build the best chemistry that we got, that's what we're going to do. It stands out about just offense. Just early, just early in the game, it stands out about offense.

3:33:45Yeah, we're not used to going against the normal offense I have been the past three years. So it's been a lot more moving pieces. Definitely have to use your eyes pretty well because if not, then somebody's going to be open. But I like what they're doing. I'm very excited for it. I just know it's making our defense a little bit better because we're having to do different things, not just the normal offense we've been used to. That was going to say just because every other team has some variations of that one and they say does that kind of do you think that'll kind of benefit you? Because you've seen that more aggressively. I would say so. I mean, as the league has changed over time, I think they revert to certain offenses that do well in certain systems. I would say we're taking maybe a little bit pieces from other offense that we see to do well. I like what we're doing. I mean, I don't know as much as some of these quarterbacks that we have on the team, some of the offensive players, but I just know it's tough to go against.

3:34:45I'm a low sack number last year, but still one of the top teams scored in defense. What do you guys really need to do to finish after the quarterback? Yeah, I would just say place heavy emphasis in practice. It's always going to start in practice with getting after the quarterback, not touching him in practice, but making some good moves. And I would just say rush more. I mean, there's so much that goes into it and goes with the coverage. Everybody works together. I would say that we had great numbers, but we do. We are trying to get that number up, but the ultimate goal is always going to be the ball. Getting the ball taken away, getting off the field. We're putting our offense out there on the field and we're staying off. That means that we're doing a good job. And you already asked about it from a competition standpoint. I'd like to stand for having new wins tomorrow and we'll be on the field. What kind of a trio can do for a defense? This guy's a limit with this group. I do believe we have one of the most talented linebacker core groups in the league.

3:35:46So just excited what we're going to be able to do out there on the field. I think we all compliment each other super well. Bigger guys that are explosive. So I'm excited for it. It's really just our family versus their family. And we just got a person here and we got to win the games and give back to the net. The part line was saying that Carmellan ran in a really good leaders and we're on so far. What if they both didn't lead us for you? They've been leaders just in multiple ways, whether our column. We're in there in the film room together on the jugs. I'm asking them about this route. How I could run it better. I'm asking them how I run this route on this play. I just many different things. I feel like those guys. They're like big brothers and all that does help me. A valuable is that to have guys that are in the play line football, but also been in college for a while. So we're really good at asking them what the various things about college life. I value. It's real valuable for sure because they're they're first round pit guys.

3:36:46So I feel like just being in a room with those guys. And if you're able to thrive with those guys, you know, some's going good for you. What are your impressions that you've brought back to you specifically? What if you kind of know about him and learn about him? I had always had a good relationship with Tavian. He recruited me hard to come here. So I feel like we always talked and he came here and he's been doing this thing. They've all been doing their thing and Julian saying he's another Cali Kinsel. I had a little relationship with him too. So good to see Julian, Lincoln and Tavian all doing real good. What is that next step for you to play in terms of evolution? What do you want to do? I just really just everything. I feel like you can never be too perfect. And I feel like you just got to keep doing your job. So I say maybe just just showing up more and just doing my job to the team. Going against these corner. So these TVs. How does that kind of make you better? In high school, I had a five star corner DJ DJ on Lee. He's at Alabama. So I always had good work with corner.

3:37:51So I feel like it's just a lot. I'm going against a lot of good guys now. I said that it just being one on one that practice with DJ. So it's real good for sure. Does it take more turns to play the slot? Should I get a please? Does it take more courage to play the slot? What do you mean by that? Because there's more stuff. But I think there's bigger hitters inside. You have to have a thing. You've got to be aware of it. But it does take more courage to do that. I guess you could say that I feel like I just always play slot enough. I feel like that's what I've been better at. So I feel like I feel like it's just what I have to do to be on the salt. No matter who's in front of me. How big he is. How strong he is. I feel like if I got in the assignment, I got to do it. I'm looking around. I remember my first day. I'm looking around. I'm looking at July. Crazy. Then I see Jeremiah crazy. I'm just looking around everybody. KJ. Can't crank it off the bottom. Okay. Like this is the real deal. For sure. How do you how do you take that only fat moment and then go from?

3:38:56I really just take that and I just I just think of the challenge. Okay. Like we got all these attributes. He they got all these things. But can they get past me? The can they beat me though? So every day just working on that. Just getting better and better. He was using all the strong legs, jumping, throwing, and stuff. Yeah, that's my dog. You know, we came in together and just like talking to each other about the process, especially when my coach, Ryan left and I was like, you know, we're going to do you and me and then we just suck through it. And then I just talked to him every day. That's my bully and working on different things because he's at the left. I'm at the right scene. Things with different point of view. So it's great. I was a transition going for you. I was going to be amazing. I feel every day get better and better. Going against the best every day. So you have to be on your A game and going to do like CJ. That's my play. Just getting better and better in a transition. Just not an hour half away from home. So this has been pretty good. You started for getting flat experience.

3:39:59So what do you kind of think you did in November at most? I think like for my role, I think I did just enough. When I was a person, I feel like I would have done lay better, but just going into that role, helping that's helping Minnesota. Do we have to do and feel like I did just enough, but there's always I could always do. What is always room for improvement? Where did you see the field? What specifically? Pass, pro and my first steps. Working on those things. I had to lift out the power. I just I was all over the place and just every I feel like every game I was understanding how the game worked and how to attack, how to be passive, how to work together as an online unit and not just be by myself. You mentioned the first step. What about that first step? Really just make sure I feel powerful out of my stance. That was the one big thing I had to work on.

3:41:01Especially at my last school, working on my stance with my make sure I can push off and like gain ground. And I felt like sometimes I wasn't doing that. Even when you mentioned, but he had to lose 30 pounds when he got here. Did you have to change from your body at all? Definitely. I was three 20 coming in and I played at three 20. I feel great. And then they told me they wanted me to go down to three 15 and I was like, no, I want to do that. I got three 15. I started running. I started. They started putting me on the meal plan. They started doing all this. I'm like, oh, how do I see the vision? Yeah, I definitely changed before my body. My arm is steadily getting bigger. The weight room is going to be amazing. I'm growing every day. It's hard every day. But I love it though. I'm getting worked after practice. I have to do weight room. I'm hooked, but I can see the results and see the games. What is it like? You leave a place. You know you're probably breaking some people's hearts back there. Describe what it's like to make a move like this. You know what I mean?

3:42:03Basically, the midst of a college career. What were you seeking more than anything else? It was definitely a big move. What was I seeking? Just a development with knowing I can. I wanted to go and get some of the best dudes every day. And coming here, I'll be able to do that. Just a training program in the culture here. It's summer. Minnesota. So it was definitely like a easy merge. You had said you hadn't really thought about Ohio State being an option. How quickly did it sort of emerge? What do you remember about just the moment? I remember coach Fry call me when I hit the portal. He was one of the first people to hit me up. I was going to go home anyways because I was going to go to my mom's house. Because I fasted. When I hit the portal, make sure I was making the right decision. And I was going to go home with my family and just talk about it. And because of them, I remember like, you're already an hour and a half away.

3:43:04So you might as well just see the stuff up there. They were they they shown interest. And I was like, you know, I was with you mentioned the transition from fry to Tyler Bowen. Just what's been like playing for both of them so far? I don't really know too much about coach Fry, you know, just a little bit. But what I was in here, I definitely saw like dudes definitely develop. Like I can see it on tape. Not necessarily like really see that practice. But with coach Bowen, every day, just improving and he's just always telling me things. A little thing, I don't even notice that I need to work on. Especially with coach Johnson and coach Dickey. I have no story in the room. It's probably the best thing ever for me. Got some great additions and we're excited for that. Ultimately it's to use some of these guys to be the number one defense in the league. And that's always going to be the goal. So whatever we can do to utilize all the different talent that we have on this team to be the best and play as a team and to build the best chemistry that we got.

3:44:04That's what we're going to do. Just stand down about this offense. Just see, just early in the game. Yeah, we're not used to going against the normal offense I have been the past three years. So it's been a lot more moving, moving pieces. Definitely have to use your eyes pretty well because if not, then somebody's going to be open. But I like what they're doing. I'm very excited for it. I just know it's making our defense a little bit better because we're having to do different things. Not just the normal offense we've been used to. I was going to say just because every other team has some variations that they were going to miss. Does that kind of do you think that kind of benefit you? Because you're seeing that more than the rest of it. I would say so. I mean, as the league has changed over time, I think they revert to certain offenses that do well in certain systems. I would say we're taking maybe a little bit pieces from other offense that we see to do well.

3:45:04So I like what we're doing. I mean, I don't know as much as some of these quarterbacks that we have on the team. Some of the offensive players, but I just know it's tough to go against. I'm a low-sat number last year, but still one of the top teams scoring the defense. What do you guys really need to do to finish after the quarterback? Yeah, I would just say place heavy emphasis in practice. It's always going to start in practice with getting after the quarterback, not touching him in practice, but making some good moves. And I would just say rush more. I mean, there's so much that goes into it. It goes with the coverage. Everybody works together. I would say that we had great numbers, but we are trying to get that number up. But the ultimate goal is always going to be the ball. Getting the ball taken away, getting off the field. We're putting our offense out there on the field, and we're staying off. That means that we're doing a good job. When you're already asked about it from a competition standpoint, before my elective standpoint, having you wins a margin, we're going to feel what kind of a trio can do for a defense.

3:46:07I mean, this guy's a limit with this group. I do believe we have one of the most talented linebacker core groups in the league. So just excited what we're going to be able to do out there on the field. I think we all compliment each other super well. Bigger guys that are explosive. So I'm excited for it. The guard was going to be up in the air. So I think for me, just starting out, I took it something that was kind of important to me, that whoever was, everyone competing for that spot, I wanted to create a bond with them. Because I feel like a tackle guard bond is important in terms of communication understanding. Because again, a tackle is only as good as a guard is and vice versa. I feel like I've done a good enough job so far of starting to develop that relationship with each potential guy. So that way, as a spot as a spot is getting, as people start to compete for that spot, again, I feel like I should be able to pop in with whoever.

3:47:13I can keep the standard of the standard if that makes sense. That's my mindset. First, there's a guy competing for a spot and I've never spent any time with him. Just one on one during the summer and just taking reps before camp. Hey, what's coming to the facility? Let's do XYZ. Let's talk about this tape XYZ. Then they come in and then now there's no kind of flow. So now I'm not really seeing how we're going to fit together, but I want to fit with as many people at left guard as possible that way when the decision has been made. There's no new startup process. I got to start over my process with this guy. It's kind of already been flowing. That makes sense. That goes in position and there's a lot of focus. Are you going to face this more pressure than the position on the line? In Europe, what is the problem mindset to succeed at that position? I think that the mindset for me has always been that when I win my one on one, the ball goes down the field. You know what I mean? So, and I think that's what I'm most excited about just being a left tackle is that especially with the protections that are a little bit of longer plays where the left tackle tends to be a one on one or my play.

3:48:22I tend to love the most because kind of halfway through the play, we're all out and I'm up and just know that he can't go anywhere. You start to smile and be like, oh dude, ball's gone. You know what I mean? Like ball's gone and it's going to be a touchdown. It's going to be a huge gain. So I think for me that's kind of the mindset you have to have the left tackle spot as soon as I win my red we're going down the field. So that's just a mindset I have in terms of how well I have to prepare. How did you go on that mindset and where the people able to get there? Honestly, I would say that mindset kind of came from college. Again, obviously I played with a lot of great guys in college. You know, glad we have on those guys here. You know what I mean? To throw the ball to as well just because against one of those things like with CJ, you just again a left tackle. My mind was just let CJ just do his thing and that's my thing. I want Kyle to be able to do his thing. Don't worry about whoever's over here. Just do your thing. That's why you're here and just throw at the Marvin.

3:49:24And you know, it will be and will be good. You know what I mean? So that's something excited about. And I think all that starts because of what we do on the line. So I think just not just myself, but the entire room takes pride in. Hey, like when we do our job upfront, that's where everything else goes. So let these guys we have with the ball in their hands. Do all that all that magic. We just got to. Just do our job just to entertain it when you're one on one, you know. Well, I just plan that that spot mean something special just because of the history of that position and you know, just of all the great sort of play left tackle. I mean, do you ever think about just the past and the you know the people the players before you who were in that spot and did great things. Yeah, I mean again, I feel like just from just as a young guy in a game, I of course try to I like to watch the the greats the game. I don't watch guys like. A weight worth of course, you know, I will be Anderson, you know, he played on the right side, but again, I think continuing to watch the greats that played the game just can take the dominate for those guys from me be able to talk to them again to be able to learn from their story and their journey and how they developed.

3:50:39Of course, I understand I want to create a I want my game to be able to be like there's no way to where it's talked about in a way of like that's a guy you need to watch just to watch with. You know, the fight that you played with the finish that you played with the technique you played with because those guys played almost 20 years. You know what I mean. So. And again, I think that's something when you watch the guys though, the legendary guys come before. Yeah, you know, they're strong and they're tough guys, but you know, I don't know, but when you're like 36, 37 years old, you probably not that's not as strong as you used to, but that technique and just the skill set that's something that I admire. You mentioned earlier about the guys going out to UCLA and kind of getting out of the heat. I'm curious. When you're working out here, do you do anything outside or do you avoid it altogether right now? I don't know. I'm always outside. I'm always outside. I don't mind the heat. I love the heat. And honestly, for me, it helps. I'm also like 320. So I kind of warm up quickly.

3:51:39So it's kind of nice for my warm up. I don't have to be doing like 30 minute warm up. You know, you kind of just be outside long enough, collect this and your joints are on go. So I actually I like it. Going back to the players that have been in the league for a while, Calvin Beachham is one of those guys that's been in the league for a decade plus. What have you been able to learn from him? I think again, just learning how to be a pro in terms of in terms of certain things like, for example, I'm a guy that when I like to train by myself, I just take a thousand reps of a set, a thousand reps of a reach block. I'm a rep, rep, rep, rep and type, I've done a hundred times and I wrote perfect. And some of that beach is like talking about in terms of being a pro and I thought to me, that's me being a pro is a young guy. I pick up a lot of reps in my body. So I'm going to take a lot of reps and preparation. But beach is a guy where it's like, it's not about necessarily the quantity in terms of it's really through the quality. But even more so, he's like, you know, obviously you don't got to be doing something like this every single day.

3:52:44You do it like from your first rep, even your first rep is not like you're, I'm taking this rep, it wasn't good. It's going to be better on the second one like each rep, even when you're by yourself is just kind of, I guess a mindset, I just give yourself 15 reps instead of doing 60 reps. And I sounds like a huge difference, but to me, I don't mind taking 60 reps from by myself and there's nobody that's waiting around on me. And I'm by myself, I can take my time and I'll do that. It's just being like, I'm going to do 15 perfect reps and I'm just going to slow down and take all my time, stuff like that. That way your body, that way you're not doing too much before camp, you know. Many of the guys that left guard in the mix were here last year except for Evan. How does that relationship develop throughout other overseas? Yeah, I mean, so honestly, I like that, that's my guy. We like to compete, we've been competing in the weight room since day one in terms of just like what we consider like athletic competitions.

3:53:45So like even in the weight room, I'm at the very end of the week when we're done lifting. I'll talk to Evan, I'll be at an Irish stand, it will just do some sort of competition, whether it's grip or whether it's jumper, it's pull ups or something. And I don't let him leave until I beat him in all these two things. Like so if we do, if we do a jump thing and like I always thought was the best kind of, I had the most height when I jumped out of O-line, I could dominate anybody and that but he beat me in that. Surprising, I was alright, and then we're hopping on the bike and then we did this bike thing and I beat him on the bike and we're not going to pull up. So I beat him on a personal kid and I can leave. But we just have that, we're just always just competing. And then again, obviously he wasn't on the team with us last year. I think what he brings at the table with being a vet is that he's like a plug and play guy. He knows, he's been in those scenarios before. He's played with guys like Penae when he was with Detroit. So obviously he's just being able to talk to him and how this is how it was when I was setting with Penae.

3:54:47That's how it was on the same C-hawks. These are the different things that I can do that mirrors some things like in your game how you set and I'll talk to him about what I like to do in certain scenarios and how his set can sort of match that. Does that make sense? So I think he adds a lot. What's the longest you've stayed after until you beat him? To the point where a strength coach is like, you guys got to go. You guys should go. We're not trying to break any rules around here. But it's just me and him just going, and he loves it. So even I started to do that. We started to get other guys in the O-line that tried to hop in on our competition for fun. But only matters would be Evan. I'm just beating you. So it was fun. It was awesome going. I like it.

3:55:58I couldn't react up an opportunity to try and bump that up and go somewhere to see me around me. I was really just watching it because I mean we played majorities last year on the day. You know where I can be that pocket batter and also use my legs when I need to but you know I feel like my

3:57:00strength but I also feel like I can do really good things like obviously being a quarterback you need to need to make those players. Oh it had a huge huge impact on you know I I love my guys at K-State and I have nothing to say about that man but I mean a talent here is just being around the guys and the thing that's impressed me the most about especially the receiver room is how driven how much they want to work. I don't have to go out there and beg these guys to go catch and they're already out here catching on the jugs when I come out the throw. They're incredibly hard working just all across the room. I mean we got used like Carnell and for Hand in Onus and obviously

3:58:00a Mecca and all those guys like I mean that's just the that's just the tip of the ice. I'm like there's so much talent in that room and being able to throw to guys like that makes my job a lot easier. He's a dude man I haven't gotten to talk to him that much yet you know just because we've been in different groups lifting and stuff but man he's a specimen. I mean that dude is a freak show when he comes to physical I mean he is I'm excited to see him on the field and I'm actually able to come here. I feel like the resounding thing that I heard from these NFL guys and from people around the league was need to play more and we need to see more high level play and I feel like you know I played a lot of football in my time at K-State but you know I only had one year where I was really the true starter and where I played you know

3:59:03the whole year the most part I was a backup filling in and I felt like you know there's a bunch of statistics and things they look at you know I was on the very lowest end of like you know that amount of yards that you're supposed to throw for you know you look at the success stories versus the failure stories and there was just so many signs of a point in becoming back and really in my heart and that was at the end of the day I mean it was up to me it was my cut and I felt like I wasn't ready to leave college yet I want to go home absolutely and I mean the biggest thing was I felt like I could come and be here when the national team and that above anything else was one of the most important thing I felt like I just had more I want to go to college and I wasn't so yet and that was I think what really drew me here obviously you know getting to the next level

4:00:06and you know playing in an offense like this I think is really going to prepare me for that next level and giving me the best shot and that's all I just really stood her on the cake you know for me yeah I mean we definitely talked about it you know it's we're all we're all here to compete and we're all here to you know help the fuck guys win that's all we're here for and that was you know that was made evident when I you know when I came on my visit and you know the thing that I'm the most fired up about is how good the dudes in the room are and how good they've been to me you know I they could have no believe me I've been in a situation where we brought in an old and trans to get and you know they could have been you know mad and not helped me and helped me out but I mean Devon and Lincoln the guys that have been around they they've they've really helped

4:01:08us a lot especially us three new guys and you know I know I'm older and I've done things but still just learning a new system learning you know how we do things away from how we you know go about our busy day just everything's a little different so I'm so thankful for those guys that they've just I mean they've helped me so much just getting getting accustomed to you know being in the mind being in this building really good dudes really good kids and really counted too I mean they can they can both spin the ball really well you know they're they're young and they you know they know they got a lot to learn and so do I you know I think we're we're all trying to learn this together even you know so do I know a little bit and and we're we're we're hitting the ground running but you know it's exciting those two guys there are especially

4:02:08it's hard to say I would probably say the draft would have been my you know I was I was talking to some other schools you know Miami and USC were in there in the mix but it was really I would say here in the draft at the end of it you know it there was a lot of different things going to it and it was a long hard process but yeah I would say I mean that was probably most likely when you I mean nothing nothing crazy you know it was just yeah there you go a little sidetrack but uh no I was a question again I'm sorry I'm sorry you're a spider controversy with uh yeah yeah no it was I mean it wasn't really

4:03:20anything crazy I would say you know I just you know nothing really changed who's really kind of you know they they were kind of holding me off a little bit to fill after that game just I was in fairness. I was patient and waited my time and it all worked out. Did Coach Day live on now even kind of make the point? It's hard to tell. I don't really know. It was a whirlwind of a process. I started hearing initially they might be interested, but I hadn't really heard anything directly. I really started to feel that interest. Did Coach Day let you know there's a change coming? Is it a good for a day later? A little bit. I figured that. I didn't know for sure, but he kind of hinted at it. His point was it's in the best interest to him and the team.

4:04:21I was all in. I completely understood the decision and why he did it. What was the difference between the two teams? There were a lot of things that were said. A lot of things that were attracted to me about this offense and about what he kind of saw about my game. How he thought he could elevate me to where I wanted to be. I feel like one of the biggest things was how cross-dial the offense is. A lot of these other schools that I was looking at, maybe are erased by schools. They got great offenses. I can put up a lot of numbers, but I don't know how much that was developed. I was playing in a system that Coach O'Brien used to play. How much better can you prepare for the NFL than with somebody who's coach at a head coach?

4:05:21A head coach level and an important head level at the NFL. There's just all the things pointed to it. You're learning how to stay in part of the field. I love the trouble. I'm not sure how much I started getting here at the first point. I kind of wanted to look back at the situation. Obviously, I'm just thinking of what I'm going to see. How did you stay ready in prepare? I just stayed ready in prepare. I know I took a couple of days off after the National Championship. I'm writing sample Florida and I'm writing to it. I think while I trained, I trained at Yo-Murth Performance. It's called the House of Athlete or the Compound now.

4:06:24They did a good job, managers, bringing us in. The way they went about training us, they did a really good job. The Bucking Nears. No, I haven't. Temple of Tampa. It's a nice city, man. Really nice. The 40, the broad and the vert. It's a great season. Awesome. You need to meet your mentality and when you've got a linebacker. You're in for your ball. Yeah. No, man. It's really all about technique. And then it's about mindset as well. It's for the love of my brother. It's for the love of Will Howard. It's for the love of the receiver. It's where I got on the perimeter. Just making sure, first of all, my quarterback doesn't get sacked. I don't know if I gave up a sack. I'm not sure that. But I know if I did, I haven't given up too many. And so, man, it's for the love of my brother's, though, man. Making sure the ball get in their hands, you know, the guys on the outside and making sure they get fed.

4:07:24You have to hit the practice field later today. What is something you've been working on right now? In my game. You can't really work on it. You're not going to be able to do it. You're not going to be able to do it. You're not going to be able to do it. You're not going to be able to do it. You can't really work on this, you know, in all season. I feel like it's more so, you know, you got to put the pads on. You got to go through some inside run, you know, maybe. It's really just continuing to run through tackles. And so, that's, I feel like that's one of the areas in my game. You know, I want to continue to get better. I feel like I did a good job of that in my senior year. And so, I just want to continue to build on that. So, you know what I was saying? Yes, I did. Yes, I did. So, people say, you look like, I'll let you borrow out there. You're back in nursing. I did meet with New Orleans as well. I never got that comparison. Actually, I know I have a Camera. Sure, yeah, man, I have a Camera. Great, great back, man. Just what he does and those 101 matchups, he's dangerous, man. And he's so smooth. He's so smooth as well.

4:08:24I'm not going to lie. He's smooth. Yeah. Inside zone. From stack, being able to hit that thing downhill. And I'll say the next one is probably just an option route out of the backfield. You know, and man and man coverage, you're getting on that linebacker. And so. Yeah, I say the man, the biggest thing is the way that he carries himself, man. He approaches the game. He comes in with the mindset, you know, he's going to work every single week. You know, every practice, you know, he's working hard. You know, even shoot him. I don't know, every good, I think he had a, every game was a good game for him, man. And so, but still, man, he always has the mentality to mindset that, you know, he's going to come in each and every day. He's going to continue to work and get better, man.

4:09:24And so he's definitely, man, he's going to be a special player, man. He really is. Man, a lot of ups and downs, man, it's just how you respond to adversity. And I feel like that's something that God has definitely helped me to do better. It's just, I'm not having something to lean on now. You know, I remember before I met him, you know, going through those adversity, I had nothing to run to, you know, you can run to people, but they still can't, it's not too much, they can't truly help you. You know, I feel like, you know, I feel like the only person that can truly help you is your relationship with Jesus Christ. And so being able to lean on him, you know, he gives you, in those moments where it's tough, you know, where it's low. And when you're behind the scenes and you're going through things that people don't know about, he gives you that peace and comfort, you know, even in those moments, man, where it's so hard that you can't, you can't explain. It's like, man, I'm going through this, but like, how am I still filled with this internal joy?

4:10:25You know, how do I have so much peace in this situation? And so that's something that only Jesus Christ can give you. And so, which aspect do you do those other individuals that you want to follow from being around the power of God? Man, those guys have such a great mentality, man. Am I just really loved their mentality, especially Q as well. You know, I talked about Will Howard, his leadership, but Quincham mentality, man. That boy just, yeah, that boy just gifted, you know, you see, you know, sometimes he put in a situation where he looked like, you know, he should have a negative five yards. And as soon as you know it, you know, he, the running through somebody, still farming somebody, and shoot, it's a game of 10. It's a, you know, shoot, I think, yeah, man, I think it's just like, he's just gifted, man, to be honest.

4:11:25He's just gifted, you know, he's a big back, you know, he's strong. And so, you know, he's able to do, he's able to do those things. And so, yeah, man, it's definitely, you know, I look at his game and I want to, you know, at the same time, I want to learn from Quincham. You know, I want to look at his game and it's like, man, where can I get better at as well? You know, that's the type of player I am. I'm always looking to get better, man. I'm always looking to grow as a player. What's your last speech? Julian San. Oh, yeah, he's going to be a great, but he's going to be a great quarterback, man. He's so, so accurate. And so, he's definitely, man, I know Coach Dez is definitely going to get him right. Just, you know, container, grow as a leader, container, grow as a player. And so, he's going to be really good for a high state. He's, I know just the quarterback position. I feel like, you know, the quarterbacks in the past, they've, they've definitely been vocal. And so, I feel like that's something that they're definitely going to ask Julian San as well. It's to be that vocal leader and lead the, and lead the offense and lead the team. What do you guys think of that?

4:12:25Shoot, man, he has, he has a bill like JK Dobbins. And I kind of see them, you know, similar, similarities in their game as well. And I know JK Dobbins, he was a great running back. I feel like he's not talked about his none. A lot, but man, his career here, you watch his highlights is, is great. I remember before I recruit, before I committed here, I remember watching JK Dobbins highlights like every, every one of his years here, like four or five times. And so, man, he was such a great back. And I feel like, you know, when I see JK Dobbins, when I see James people, I see similarities to both of their games. I feel like they play the same. And so, appreciate you all. Yeah, I'll be going. You can go. This. You can go.

4:13:49You can go. You can go.

4:14:49You can go. You can go. You, so being able to go out there, just present my best self here. And man, it makes me better person. I have talked to the chiefs. I have talked to the chiefs. Yes. It was a great conversation. I mean, these guys, I mean, they have a lot of good, de-line talent there. So having guys there, I mean, they feel like I could fit in very well. I mean, be able to have guys pull me in, really help me out, and allow me to really get in their fist system and fit in there, and be a good player there. You talk to him about the watch cam, hey, we're not going to watch this. Oh, yeah, of course, Jones, I mean, that guy's amazing. Be able to explode the way he did in the past few years, man. He's great. I mean, that guy is practically unblockable. He's going to watch him a little bit. I mean, the way he uses his hand, I mean, he doesn't allow people to touch him. So I always hear a favorite game or memory in moment in the past season?

4:15:53Definitely win the national championship. I mean, there's no better feeling than that to be able to go out there. I mean, we're going to hold on to guys you grew up with for the past five years. I mean, see us really pull through out there, hitting a couple of bumps in the road and be able to really exert ourselves and really make it all the way to the national championship. Win it all, man. It's a great feeling. Do you like the sun in you? What's it feeling? Oh, yeah, since being off the team now, definitely sunken now that we really won the national championship. It's going to sink any more. We'll be able to see the rings that we got. We'll get here in probably the next month or so. It's all like a... What's it like seeing Jay-Z in the draft gets so close? Like they have to see them here. Are you going to wait to get in there? What does that mean? I mean, it's nice. I mean, especially I mean, to have the entire defense line here at the combo. I mean, it's amazing. I mean, it's not too many times you get not too many teams of you to have that. I mean, it just shows the elite level that we have and that they have been at Ohio. It just shows how great we are and how great we can be. It felt like a whirlwind going from the play to championship game of up to now. You're here. Oh, yeah. I mean, it feels like I'm still playing for a Ohio State, but it's like I'm not playing anymore.

4:16:53So it's kind of weird trying to get to Justin point down, stepping into a new chapter of my life. So just being relaxed, calm, and just walking there with me and myself. Are you planning to work out tomorrow? Oh, yeah. I'll be doing the drills. What's about it? How much time have you had on it? How much time have you taken off for yourself? We had a week, a week after the game, and then after that, I mean, I flew straight to California when I had to train. You mentioned that it feels like you're still playing for a Ohio State. When you've been there for five years, like how hard is it to like pull away from that and not be apart? Yeah, it was definitely hard the first couple of weeks. I mean, trying to, it was definitely a slower pace. I mean, being in Ohio State, everything was up temple, up beat, everything was hard work. I mean, you're doing group activities all the time. It's hard to be able to adjust to be more of a calm setting. I mean, you're doing a lot of things on your own when you get in the NFL. It's not you're not guided anywhere. So you got to be able to adjust to that. And that's probably the biggest thing. How old do you feel like that here? You feel a little bit slow. How much time have you had on it? I like to say that Ohio State is the best of preparing.

4:17:53I mean, you can see player after player going to the NFL. I mean, just mean one of the best players because it's the way Ohio State and the system that they had. I mean, they did things in an excellent way to prepare you for the league. And this is, it's why I'm grateful to be able to go to that school. I think I'm about to line up next time I'm on field for the next few months. I'll talk about next few months. Yeah, it's kind of sad. Obviously, I wish we could have even just one of them be with me and make it even a better experience being there. I mean, a lot of questions they like to ask is like, who would you bring with you? I mean, of course, is here any one of my deal I'm in, bringing those guys with me. So it's definitely going to be different. I mean, there's a lot of great talent on these teams, a lot of great deal I'm in there. So I love to learn from other people, learn from them and be able to grow from them. Do you and Jack tell on Sorrento and Sunny they have to carry the Pickering Team tour? Oh, yeah, of course. I mean, I like to say all the time, man. The Columbus being brings to Ohio State, man, it's the best player. So being able to be there and still represent Pickering Team. I mean, you got a lot of good guys still on Pickering Team.

4:18:53That's still in high school. We get to get there. So them representing is just great. What it was talking about, the Sunny being a potential team in the block of the NCAA, the potential captain of the team. Where have you seen Sunny kind of grow as a leader and what do you think about the new role that you're getting in the legacy? Oh, yeah. I think that just the leadership off the field made it so much better. I mean, from a guy who started off as a safety, moving the linebacker. I mean, it was a natural adjustment for him. I mean, he made no complaints to none of that. I mean, he just came in and worked and it kind of like me. Like, we just worked as hard as he could every single day. Just learn to playbook. You can see the leadership on the field when he's out there calling the plays with confidence and being out there supporting his team, man. His team rallied behind him. You see him very much. I know it's fun. It's interesting. I mean, I have no comments on it. I want nothing but the best form, but being at the Penn State. I mean, it's not for the best form. You see emerging as a leader on that team that's in line. I think you see him in the middle. Um, Ke'ah Jackson. I feel like this role, I mean, I've talked to him. He definitely wants to step up. You stepping up this year. I mean, he's played a good amount of time last year.

4:19:54I feel like him being a go out there and really step up and be a leader for the team. That's something you can do, especially with the talent that you ask. What are you up to, Sheryl? What do you want to do to get to the team? Um, I mean, you got pads on, stuff like that. Being a special interior guy, you really don't get to see me run. So being able to go out there and really run and be able to see my movement, be able to see my men and my ability to move around. Definitely surprising a couple coaches. Who is the most memorable moment that you see some of the three guys? Um, um, uh, as hard as it is to say, being a loose team up north of me. And that was kind of like the pivotal role that really, um, hit the whole team in the face and allowed us to really kick the fire in the neafers and be able to, uh, play with our best abilities that we knew we had since the beginning of the season. I mean, and much of it hurts to lose. I mean, it kind of set the tone for the rest of the team. And you see how we dominated teams in the playoffs. So people talked about that meeting. Did your opinion of Friday change or out of the change after that meeting? Knowing that he's the coach sitting there taking the, that's going to go drunk. Um, feedback. Uh, yeah, I mean, I didn't change at all.

4:20:54That's how it should be. I mean, being a coach there. I mean, he, he's upfront and he's going to tell you everything. He's going to, he takes criticism and that's just something that, um, being a man to be able to drop your ego and take criticism. I mean, that makes him even better coach. I mean, not a lot of coaches can do that. So it makes him better that he's here for his team. He's not just trying to be the head coach. He wants to be for his team. So I appreciate him for that. I mean, the whole goal going to the house that you want to be the team of North. I mean, especially with my brother, he's never lost to him. So it's kind of like a brag rights to the dinner table. But I mean, every other day, we won a national championship. So that's something I get to carry on for our small life. You mentioned being able to surprise and be able to feel like you're a little bit overlooked. Just because of how much talent you had around you last day. Oh, we had a lot of fun. I think it's a lot of fun. I think it's a lot of fun. I think it's a lot of fun. I think it's a lot of fun. I think it's a lot of fun. I think it's a lot of fun. I think it's a lot of fun. I think it's a lot of fun. I think it's a lot of good guys. I mean, that's what comes to being on a holiday. You got talent everywhere. So I mean, just being myself and just being able to show people who I am. And that's why I'm here for it. So I'm just going to do everything I possible to be able to prove to the people that support me.

4:21:57Right? Where do you see yourself? Are you going to stick it in the nose? Do you want to be a free tag? Like, where do you think you put your foot back? I want to be versatile. I want to be like, I can play a little bit of a three-take plate nose guard. Anywhere on the inside, I feel like I'm playing maybe even a little outside. Who knows? So just being able to be versatile, I feel like playing on a holiday. We were allowed to move around a little bit and allowed me to show my talent. So being able to be versatile and play anywhere allows me to be a better player in the league. You're not just kidding. What are people going to see for him this year? They're going to see it more developed player. I mean, I feel like this year is kind of the set and stone of him being able to take over the role of being a defense in out of a holiday. So I feel like he has all the talents, all the skillset to be able to go out there and be one of the best players in the world. And be one of the best teams to come out of the holiday. So it's up to him to be a just honing on a leadership and be able to be the best player you can and lead others to be just like him. What do you feel like you're the best match for you to get a run for the other world? I'm obviously just being able to shut down the run. I mean, I feel like I pride myself in my run game and not being blocked by a single person.

4:22:59So I'll just be able to go in there and be able to be a lead run stopper. But also be able to go in on third down as well and be able to show my past for our show. I mean, go out there and do the best I can. So I'm not even really getting to do what I always say. How much do you feel like you've heard as a past russer? I don't know how it's going to be. Where do you feel like you've used to go growing there? Oh, yeah. I mean, I feel like power is always my go to a past russer. And I feel like it worked. I mean, we didn't really get the rush as much of the whole state. But at times I did get the rush that showed me my power and my skill set. Allowing to move guys out the way and makes action. And it's something good. I mean, I feel like obviously you always need something to work on a past russer. It's just different moves that come off of it. Like finesse moves, any type of chops and stuff like that. So I'm just working on those and finishing sacks and something like a work on. What do you think of the biggest lessons you'll take from Larry Johnson with you to Ian Pro? Honestly, just focus on little things. I mean, technique is critical when it comes to defeating a block or getting blocked. So I mean, just honing on those small techniques so I'll always make sure that I'm critiquing myself from the best way possible and not getting complacent. I don't think we got who are the other two of your guys who are spending so much money.

4:24:02We got guys like Andrew getting there, Jason Moore, Ty Worm alone. I mean, the younger freshmen in there, I feel like everybody can step up. I mean, those are guys that have played a little bit last year. I feel like having every position vacant, I mean, it allows for competition. So being able to, for those guys to step up and really prove themselves that they can play at a elite level, it's going to be something I'm looking forward to see. I want for you to leave that room in a way that they are prepared to step up. It's super important. I mean, I feel like that was our whole goal as leaders to be able to just elevate the younger guys and allow them. So when we leave that, they can carry the torch. So we're like to say, so everybody moves up from back seats to the front seats. So I feel like we're, we give them the possibility to be able to move up to the front seats and be ready for every challenge that's done at them. I think JT said there'd be another 15 buck guys here next year. Yeah. You're prediction on a number? I have no idea. I mean, I think there would be a lot of guys. I mean, we like a lot of good talent, a lot of young guys. I mean, who knows? What do you think it would mean for this group of guys that's here to tie or break the record of one sport that didn't draft it in a draft?

4:25:09Records 15, now. Yeah. It would mean a lot, honestly. I mean, these guys work hard. I mean, being in a hall stage, you got a lot of great guys there. I mean, guys we showed and our film shows, man. I mean, this is probably one of the more complete teams that we had in college football. So I feel like the Scouts understand me and coach's understanding that how good are guys we have. And then not only do we have good on the field, man, a great character guy is, man. So yeah. How good is South Carolina? Oh, he was great, man. I mean, being able to come from Bama and build a jump on a hall stage, you feel like you played on for him the whole time. I mean, this guy was a great guy, not only off the field, but on the field as well. I mean, he was very technical-sounding, man. He had a great technique, because it's hard to get around him in practice. So I mean, definitely showed in games. So he's a great guy. I appreciate him. Thanks, guys. You've got to rest guys here with a longer season, potentially. Yeah, we play it by ear. You know what I mean? We see how goals by time we get in the camp, but you know, obviously he's earning his stripes. So, you know what I mean? When you earn your stripes, you know, a large job to create opportunities for you.

4:26:11You know what I mean? We have to see how it goes with all that other stuff. You know, once we get closer to the season, and we're getting the game plan stuff, but he's doing a great job and he's taking a great step forward. Tim, when you're the way that you build the room, or the way you kind of establish your room now, it seems like it's been like son of pieces, contemplation, and kind of building bonds. But I'm curious, is that something that you came in with the, like a couple years ago, with the intention of doing it, or is it something that you're like, that's kind of been cultivated over the course of your Thomas position? You know what I mean? No, it's been there for a while. I've been doing that for a long time. It's all about relationship. If you develop real relationship and you're authentic in your communication, and you have honest feedback, and you have direct teaching, the guys that have a value and character, and they appreciate that stuff, they're embrace that. But they have to know you care, and you have to know that it's real, and they have to know that you're really concerned about where it being as a young man, and when you get close to them, it's been a lot of time with them off the field. You could coach them hard, and you can say truthful things to them,

4:27:11and then they're embrace it, and you have real conversation, because you know the only goal is to help them get better as a young man. As you see, computers go, and then those are told to listen to the receiver and the silver-headed border is going to kind of skew that evaluations on. How's that dynamic change in these two years? Is this a scoop shot or a folder, and you can be bad at even more counting? Yeah, it's done balanced up a little bit. Now, that goes with great competition. We go against the best receivers in college football. So that helps escalate your growth process, because if you don't figure it out real fast, you're getting embarrassed. So that competition, but what happened with that, I guys started competing, I guys started growing, I guys got better, and now it's even up a little bit, so where you get really good work at practice today. You know what I mean? So as competitive, it's fun. Those guys both on both sides of all care about each other, so it's great competition and they all are real close. So you know what I mean? It's that stuff that gets us better that will prepare for Saturday. I asked Denzel, who I'm going to discuss that same idea. The first day of practice, actually, the receivers kind of got them.

4:28:11Is that any kind of a good way to call me if it's for this? No, it's just competitive, man. They got the best group in the country that you're going against every day. So you have to bring it every day. You know what I mean? So we got a great quarterback room, we got a great receiver room. The running backs are really good, so when you out there going against them is deep. So you have to be ready for it. And obviously, man, we're seeing a lot of good stuff with Coach Day and Coach Kelly doing over there. And so it prepares you a lot and it helps us grow. So why are you playing kind of an exhaustive for three and a few weeks? Is that? It's the one that you're recruiting. Or a wide receiver room kind of a part of your recruiting. It's like these are the guys you get to play. Yeah, because you know, that's where you get better. Our shop is our. So you know, you get to see that every day of practice that helps you grow. It's no better thing to go against every day than to see that on a daily basis. I'm also near room besides Jordan. Looking at to play that. That's why we just moving a lot of guys around. We watch that practice.

4:29:11We have a lot of guys in there right now. You know, we probably have four different guys in there. Obviously, the ring's all in there. Jameen is in there. Caleb miles. We have about four or five guys moving around. Right now, we just try things out in spring ball. See what it fit. You know, see what things work together. So it's going to probably be some more guys in there. You know, we move it around to try to just get the right fit throughout the N and C. So it goes by time we get ready to start the season. What's in and out about Calvin since the time? He can run any strong. You know what I mean? He's fast. Very serious about his business. He's big. It's 200 pounds. He can run. He's strong. He's conscientious. You know what I mean? He's starting to grow and he's starting to get better with it. You know what I mean? So we look for big things for him in the spring. Tim, what do you want to see from here? This spring. Keep competing. You know what I mean now? He's made the transition. Competing today. You know what I mean? Start going in. That transition is all just like I'm in Germany last year. You throw him in the fire. You let him go. You compete. You go by time we get out of the end of training camp. You have to be them figured out. Yeah, I want to. But now you just throw it all at him. Compete. Continue to grow. Continue to learn.

4:30:11He has the skill set. He has to length. Now you just got to put it all together. And it takes time to do that. And hopefully you see that by time we get into training camp. It seems like a midway through spring. It kind of clicked for German last year. And you start to see it perform a little better in practice. Is that like a benchmark for where you want parents to be? By the middle of spring because you have to be in a certain point where you want it to start clinking. Yeah, by the time you start getting about two weeks from now that last week. You know, because it takes time because there's a lot of stuff going on. But you know, by the time you get into that last week of spring ball, you'll look to start seeing the things that you look for show up. And then you know you get another evaluation again when you get into training camp. See if this stuff carried on to make sure we go up for starting in September. What's your assessment of growth that we've been doing now that he's kind of got his few under one defense? What do you like about him and that Nickle's brought to you? He's very conscientious. He's smart. He can run. He's tough. He's made the adjustment because he's out of Europe on his belt. So now you can see he's not making a lot of mistakes. He competes. He's real conscientious. And he has a physical presence.

4:31:12So the growth has been really good and we look to continue that throughout spring. Coach, thank you very much. I can ask one more. All the guys that came back like Denzel's a great example. That surprised you as you reflect on all these guys that came back late from the rounds. The culture here is real. Coach, they does a great job of building the culture. Our room is close knit. The guys on defense are real close. Those guys want to come back. They have an agenda. You know, we want to come back. They want to come back and walk away with something. So it didn't shock me. But it's a good environment for them too. You see those guys come back. That's a testimony to the culture that's set here. Their brotherhood, their environment. And I coach, they run the program for those dudes to want to come back. Because we go at it. It's hard. It's not easy. It's not easy. What we do. So in fact, they come back and do that. It's a testimony to how he runs the program. Coach, thank you very much. Yeah. What were the conversations like that? That led to you making that transition? That goes to making that transition. I mean, there was already a little talk about playing some linebacker.

4:32:15I put some more season 8 and anything. I was already like kind of like wasn't really learning it. I know it was teaching me, but I was getting the load line back a little bit. Just because I knew I probably wouldn't play linebacker at some point. So then like obviously when down's getting here is like, all right, so where can I help the defense the most? You know what I'm saying? And we're trying to get our best level on the field. We're going to help the defense the most. So that's what kind of like the conversation was. And yeah, I just want to do whatever I can. Whatever the defense need me, wherever I can impact the most, that's kind of the conversation. What's even the most difficult thing about making that transition to me? It's less time in space. So less wasting movement. You can kind of save it. You can kind of a little more waste move with your feet. You can take longer strides. You know, linebacks will allow everything short. Choppy, heat stain power. Keep your pace. So I mean, that's just something like every lineback has to work on honestly. That's kind of been a big thing. But there's a lot of things to work on obviously. Why is it that you and the staff decided that my bad guys were even having a race?

4:33:15I think my capability, what I'm capable of, and then the personnel we have, like I said, trying to get the best level on the field, whatever that may be. So you're still trying to figure that out. Just the kind of conversation was about, it may have been hard for you to keep your weight down the stage. Do you look bigger? How much have you changed physically? Are you allowed to just like final eat now? I mean, last year I was eating regular. I was like 2.30 to 2.35 the whole year last year. I don't know if people thought I was 2.25. But I was like 2.35 sometimes last year. So it's not really like anything changed. Obviously, I'm a gradually getting some more weight. I'm listening heavier weight. It was different training to be a DB than training to be a linebacker. So you're going to gradually get a little bigger. So are you embracing that different kind of training? Yeah, I love it. I love it to be with the linebackers. I think with the DBs, sometimes especially in the way we're in, I was expected to win.

4:34:16So when I won, I was like, oh, it's anyone. But that was the linebacker now. It's more of a composition. You know what I'm saying? Not any hits of the DBs. I'm 2.30 going against someone who's 2.05. You know what I'm saying? I'm expecting to win. So I love the composition aspect of it. Cody said you came in and said, well, he's already bigger than us. Are you playing Will and Sam? How was the position? I've been working on both, yes. Is there any, like, fundamental difference between the two in terms of ums? Um, in the obviously the standard more outside of the box, outside my backer overhang, you can be walked up on the edge on the tight end, Will's more inside the box. I think the biggest difference from Sam and Will, Sam, you just got to be more outside sometimes during the slot with two, you know. But I think it's similar concept because you can do the same thing in the boundary. It's almost more like the San Francisco field than Will's at the boundary. So I think it's pretty similar, honestly. Only differences that Sam, last year I never really was an interior run fitter, like in the A gap, you know, going A to B or whatever that, whatever that might be.

4:35:19So that's a little different. But I mean, I think I got some of that experience at safety just from a few yards back. So like I said, the only difference really is now just suggesting the less time. Yeah, Coach, yeah, Coach, how's it? Uh, you coming from where you coming from? You have a better perspective of what's going on. Because you played safe. Yeah, yeah. I feel like I have a great understanding of the defense. Um, I think that safety I kind of already knew what the linebacks are doing. So now what I'm really starting to learn is like exactly like every little detail what the D lines doing. That's not really what I didn't know every little aspect of it. I think I'm starting to learn that now because obviously lineback you've got to be uh, knowing that more. So I think when it's also, I think we have a really, really good understanding of defense and knowing exactly what everyone's doing. So you feel like you're, uh, warm enough, they're more than the mix of the defense too. And then right back here, it's not because you can drop in one minute, pass rushes that you're mean. Uh, anyway, yeah, actually said that I think you can say it would be an lineback here in the play, you're almost in every play. Yeah, obviously the play can run away from you, but you know,

4:36:19it's safety sometimes you're just back there, played every guest. You take two back pedals and it's a tackle. So I think yeah, a linebacker, you're in the play more, more chance more opportunities make tackles. And you feel comfortable there. I mean, what does that, you know, obviously you're there to stay in that linebacker? Yeah, I feel super comfortable with it. Like I said, I think it's just going to be adjustment. You know, obviously it's different playing from a five than it was from playing from my 10 last year. So I think it's an adjustment, but I'm super comfortable with it. So maybe you copy your dad and give me any advice on the new position? Oh, yeah, we watch, uh, we watch the table all the time, uh, watch practice. You know, he was a high level linebacker and I'm just getting started with this, uh, he gets a little shit with little footwork and stuff like that, but it's good. I get good teaching him, you know, obviously coach Lord Knight is great player, great teacher for him, coach and all those are super smart football minds. So I'm getting great teaching all around. You're a live background. Everything happens quicker for you. How much did the experience playing some of that sand stuff? I asked your help. Um, I think it helped a little bit.

4:37:19It's been like in terms of physical like being in the box down on the line. But I do think the run fit as a will and a sand can be a little different. And so like I said, like being into your fitter, like your 30 back, you're going to get pools, like you're going to go spill it, so things like that. But I think I'm adjusting well. I think I'm picking up on stuff pretty fast. You know, this is still going to be a lot of stuff to work on though. Do you feel more pressure talking to the media with your brother sitting right there? Not at all. What do you think has been the biggest change from linebacker and safety? Um, I think the biggest change would probably be that 10 to 5. Because it's a bigger adjustment because everything's happening faster. And you got to react faster. And like I said, the waist and movements, I think footwork is huge. I think when you see the great linebackers, since the play happens are going. They're not taking any waist steps or not fall stepping, things like that. So I think waist and movement and being able to see what's happening right before the fast.

4:38:22What's the biggest benefit of being able to same team with your brother? Um, I mean, you know, you got someone out there that's, it's more than a team. You know, we call each other brothers, but you know, blood's a little thicker. So that's always pretty cool. You know, it's always, it's never 101. Yeah, but when he tells you something, he doesn't observe about you. You know, it's coming from. Yeah, I think when you're blood like that, I think he's not scared to tell me the truth. You know, obviously guys here, we have tough love. But I think it's always, always going to be a little different when it's your brother, because he going to keep it 100% blood exactly what you need to hear. Now what you want to hear? What's your advice on playing Dickel? Oh, for him? Yeah. Um, I mean, he just so have let it. He got to keep trusting his instincts. Uh, I think he's going to be great. Uh, I think what's huge for him is like I said, the athletic ability speed. You know, he bliss off the edge. He's, he's, he's, he's, he's pressing super fast. Um, and he's just great in covers too. So I think it's really good. I think we'll do a lot of different things.

4:39:22Uh, kind of like you see your hand caught. Obviously a little different body than a hand card, but I think it's going to be really good. I want to step on that field. He's, he's, he's, he's this time. Thank you. Great. Uh, temporary injury here that, you know, we're hopefully getting him back here soon. Yeah, I know, uh, progress being made and, you know, the biggest thing you try to figure out is when, when guys make mistakes, do they learn from the mistake and move on from it? Uh, he's done that. He's, I saw him flash today in special teams. So, so that's good. That's positive. But, um, but yeah, I think the more guys are thrown into the fire, you kind of find out how they respond and, and, um, you know, a lot of the installs kind of in now. I think we'll still continue to install some things and look at some different, uh, schemes on both sides of the ball. But the next two weeks, it really an opportunity for guys to go compete. And he's going to be one of them because we're trying to build three deep at each position based on, you know, the way next year is going to be and what the playoffs and everything like that. We know we're going to, we used to say a pair and a spare. Now we need three at each position.

4:40:23So, uh, need to build depth at all positions. And so he'll, he'll be somebody that'll be in the mix. Camerate, Rob. Yep. Yeah, they were in the backfield of bunch, especially like you said, in the coming out period, you know, first time doing coming out, a little, you know, too loose on offense. You know, we got to tighten that up. But you can see the quickness with some of those interior guys. And you know, you see Caden, you see some of the movement that's going on in there. I think Jason Moore, I think Larry talked about that he's flashed and showing that he can do it. So, you know, and then also, you know, on the edge, you see Mitchell Melton getting the backfield as a, as a rush. You got a couple of sacks, I think today. So, you know, same thing. We're looking for, for, you know, three, three guys at each position because all those guys are going to play. And we're going to roll this year because we know it's going to be a long season.

4:41:29Yes. Yeah. I think any time you have somebody who is as talented as both of those guys are, you know, you get excited about them, certainly in the recruiting process. But then when you have guys who have discipline and then skill like they do, that's when you have a chance to have a great player. I think both of them have discipline in their life. I think both of them have built up a skill package. Kaila already has a year of College of Bonner is Bell at a high level. So, you know, he's further along that way. But Jeremiah has really stepped in. You know, he got his black, black stripe off real quick. He's got a great approach. And, you know, I'm going to be careful what I say. But he's been certainly a pleasure to watch and we're all very excited about his future. If he continues on the path that he's on, he'd have, he's going to play a lot of football and certainly would have a chance to start as well.

4:42:37Yeah. Yeah, I think you're seeing CJ play fast. You know, he really likes blitzing. He can tell he's quick in there. He's doing a nice job timing up the blitzes and another year under his belt of experience being in a room with Tommy Aikenberg, Seal Chambers, watching how they did it. Now he's doing it. But I think you're seeing the speed and the athleticism and the length between Cody, R. Vell, Sonny, CJ, you know, those guys are athletic, you know, gave powers. You know, all these guys are guys who they can blitz, they can cover, they can, you know, check defenses. They're doing a good job with that. James and Jim have both done a really good job of training them that way. So excited about that group, you know, in their versatility. They're not where they need to be yet. You know, I'm glad we're not playing. Yeah, yeah, it was Will Howard and stuff about it.

4:43:43You know, it's kind of a buildup. You know, you kind of watch them and watch their practice and then you see, you know, this program, these days, and start to get into the heart of spring practice. You know, kind of earned in there. They're straight. So we do it that way. We can both of those guys deserve to get the best of them. Yeah. Yeah, I think the next level runner, I think the team need him to play for this year. Same conversation, we had with the other position. He's very quick in short areas. I think he does a nice job in the spot in particular. I think he's a mismatch for a lot of guys in there because of his quickness. He's a very good row runner for the quarterback. He's that excellent body language. Understands, states really well. And I'll break the short areas very well. So we'll count for him.

4:44:43This will be a stronger play on contact. But if you could do that, the health depth of the field is really good. Yeah. Well, I think all the runners-up run hard just to see some of the field that have a different speed. I think that that's a little bit different. And they're taking that up really well. I think it's great to have a great job with a leadership. It's done a really good job coming down. I hate Saturdays, it's pretty well. But it's great to see both games and say, you know, coming in fresh when they're taking that foot. You see both of that, now it's done excited about all of them. And I think it's a deep room. I'd like to think it's the best room. And I think it's a perfect talent for the country. And I think it's a good, really good. You know, the guy who's done very, very good. You know, the guy who's really really good at value for it.

4:46:11I think that's a good job. I think that's a good job. It's a good job. It's a good way to have 40s back there. So we have different needs, different edges. I get right. I don't know if there's any other needs. So I think it's a good job. I think it's a good job. But I really like to see it take the next step.

4:47:15Yeah, I just, I want to make sure we have, we have to move to the candidate. That's a really good conversation. Just want to make sure we get the right person in place. And definitely taking, you know, conversation, you know, and feedback from, from, you know, a lot of people in the program to make sure we have the right guy. Because you're right, like, right now there isn't, you know, like, have to get it done right now because of recruiting. I feel like, you know, we should have somebody in place here by next week. Well, he's finally healthy. And he's actually, you know, putting stack and practices together. So I think that's probably the biggest thing. Because I don't think, you know, he's been able to really show what he can do because he's had some, you know, injuries here and there. And, you know, he, he put on a lot of strength and a lot of weight early on. And then had a few issues.

4:48:15But now he's healthy. So at least we're seeing, seeing him out there learning and growing and making some plays. So, you know, I think we're kind of halfway through and figure out how we grade it out today. But at least we're making progress because he's getting on the field and he's getting those reps under his belt. All right, guys, thanks. Friends to us. And having a plan, right? What if it's not the look that I thought it was going to be now what? Where do my eyes need to be and how does that affect my decision? But constantly playing those games both on the field. But also I think it's just as important to play that in your head. You know, we talk to those guys all the time that we're laying around at bed and maybe watching some film and, you know, looking at a clip and okay, what would I do here on this play? What would I do here on this play? And constantly challenging your mind to play with an imagination, even when we're not out there on the field doing it. It's an opportunity to grow up. It's an opportunity to get better. And maybe somehow mentally I can put myself in that position. So if I do get a look that hadn't shown up on tape all year long,

4:49:17but they gave us a different look on defense than maybe they've shown, I'm ready for that moment. We're going to see Lincoln grow. What's that? Well, number one, you know, he's an ironbucker. So which is pretty incredible. Obviously, you know, that's a big deal around here. And his work in the way room was tremendous. So as an athlete, we've definitely seen that. And then, you know, I talked to that. We've seen him grow as a leader. He's more vocal. His presence has felt, I think he's playing with it a little bit of an edge to him, which is good to see. I think you have to play that position with a little bit of an edge without, you know, ever getting too higher to well. And that's contagious. So we're seeing that right now from Lincoln. And then, you know, as far as mechanically it goes, you know, we're definitely seeing Lincoln get the ball out quick. I think he's accurate. You know, I think that his base has improved. There's been, you know, a couple of things that in the spring, he was working on with his footwork. And we've seen some drastic improvements that way. Because Lincoln is specifically, you know that he's had the Black jersey

4:50:18on a lot of things that Lundsen probably did. He's taken away by, well, in play days and things like that, how do you see him as an athlete in that regard, while also not being able to see it as much on the practice field, since he's not live? Yeah, I mean, you know, you definitely can't see it to the fore extent as though you go live. But we still see it, you know, we still see it. You know, there's times when he's extending plays or stepping up through the pocket and taking off and going and, you know, there's no question. Lincoln's a great athlete and that's got to be something that he plays through his strengths. You know, that's got to be something that his game has in it, which he's shown to do a great job of. You know, he's been in a couple of places throughout spring where he's extended the play and kept his eyes on field and made some great throws. So, you know, that's, although we can't see that quite as well, because we're not going live, there's still definitely a feeling for that. What is it that you regard and kind of make sure that things that do it in does really well? How do you make sure that those guys are trying to win a competition on what they do well, but also making them get out of their comfort zone. So they're being thrust into positions that maybe they're not super comfortable with

4:51:20to show you guys what they can do with those things. Yeah, I mean, you know, as we script practice and we go through it, we try to be extremely detailed in the different reps that everyone's getting and it's not like, you know, we would ever script a certain play on purpose because it fits someone's strengths better. You know, we want them to run the offense. You know, the offense is always going to adjust to the skill set of the players that are in the entire offense, but at the end of the day, you know, the offense is going to be the offense. So from a decision-making perspective, from a throw perspective, those guys are going out there and getting those reps and competing in it. So, I assume you just want to train a champion out of the way to take the intro of the loser's heads. At what point do you need to start thinking that way? Are you just right now? It's true. The development of the game. Yeah, right now we're just taking a day by day. And really, period by period on the field, meeting on the field. You know, and you know, the one thing that's pretty cool is those guys are very competitive

4:52:20and they push each other hard and they're, you know, they're ultimately really good for each other because they both make each other uncomfortable because they're both very good players. And Tavians right there with them, including that mix. And above all of that, they're still friends. I think it's pretty cool right now. You walk into that quarterback room and you've got a bunch of really, really good guys that all get along well. And you know, we're willing to help each other out and give each other pointers and tips that they see something. And it's an enjoyable environment to be around every day, but ultimately those guys are competing. You know, they're going out there and they're trying to win the job. And I think they realize that every moment is important and every period is important. And they're going out there trying to get done. One last question, folks. When you talk about a quarterback getting the ball out quicker, how much of that is efficiency of mechanics and how much of that is mental? Like how quickly they see something to take the ball out faster? Definitely a combination of both.

4:53:20You know, I think when you look at a concept, you know, how quick can I process the information I'm getting from the defense? And the way that I can process that information quickly is where my eyes are, my eyes are in the right spot. If I'm looking at the right thing and I can anticipate what that defender is going to do and make a decision and get the ball out, right? That's a major, major factor in it. And then there's also a piece of it, right? That comes down to the mechanics as well. I think more than anything, you know, it's about making sure my eyes are in the right spot, making sure that I'm trusting what my read is and making sure that I'm getting the ball out and making a great decision with the football. Coach, thanks so much. Thank you very much. Thanks guys. Thank you. It's not too hard for me to put it behind me. Stuff happening in life, stuff happening in the game that may not go our way, but just by responding and coming out here and having fun. When you see older players, you know, for previous generations in the game that you've had concussions and some of the struggles they're having in their older life,

4:54:20what are these specialists telling you to alleviate any concerns that you may have about the potential of having to deal with those same problems, those problems that are currently giving them? Yeah, that's a great question. A lot of the information and a lot of things before, like during the time of those older players, a lot different than the knowledge and information that we have now. And I mean, we're able to treat concussions and also back then is like, if you got a concussion, they were sending you right back into the game. So now it's a lot different. We got a protocol and it gives your brain time to heal and everything. So I think things are setting plays now where it's a lot better than before and that time where we're making problems later on. So that's why I'm not really too concerned about it. Can you tell how many recommended to you? Say it again. How many recommended by the trainer or the medical staff? Oh, no, I just wanted to get into a new helmet. I mean, people have a refer to, they also, during our team meeting, has said how there's a number of helmets that are better than other helmets right now.

4:55:23So I just wanted to check those out and see what they are. Is this how you're not questioning any more severe than the others you had? No, that's one of the other things. I mean, I'm not going to give a whole seminar on concussions over here. But, no, it's not necessarily more severe. Each concussion, just what I learned, each concussion is its own specific concussion. And you gotta give that time to heal and then once that's healed and ready to go, once you get back out here, you're good. So it's not like concussions are building on top of each other. Like, you give it time to heal. But I think before what guys were getting trouble with the long time ago, is they get a concussion, not fully healed and they go right back out there and playing. Then, the captain see a side or maybe part of it. Can you just reflect on how you've grown since showing up here in fairly 21? Is it a player of personal or anything? Yeah, I've been here for a little while now. I've been enjoying every second of it. I always came in trying to be a captain and trying to lead these guys as best as I can. And I definitely feel that I've grown vocally and just trying to help build the team up and build myself up. So I'm just trying to do anything I can to help this team.

4:56:24How about in a concussion situation like this, you're so close to your mom and your brother? Do you have this sort of involved in families decision on how to get back out? Yeah, definitely. They came down with me. When the team was here doing meetings, I was driving up to a Pittsburgh meeting with the concussion specialist and everything. And they were with me and just easing their mind. That's the biggest thing. They're all there worried and everything. But they'll be okay. We saw the play with Elijah. Say it again. We saw the play practice. Did you think you'd be up for two weeks after that? I mean, I was good. It was that day that I was kind of had a headache and everything. But I was pretty much good after that. But it was just about going through the protocol. I mean, there was no rush back. We weren't playing regular season games. So I mean, I was just really getting the time to heal. It wasn't any rush. You both are already in the cap and still had a helmet to helmet. From your perspective, I have to be an expert.

4:57:25Are those doing what they're intended to do? You know, you got to take care of it when you got to. You know, I'm saying like, guys are still getting concussions and getting the wearing. Yeah, it's definitely still a physical sport. So I mean, concussion and I happen to be regardless. I know if you were in a guardian cap or not. I think it could be looked at too. I know and just talked about it on the guardian cap. I don't think in the back that is as much padding as I would like. But I feel it could be looked at. But I think you get a concussion whether you're wearing a guardian cap or not. So I mean, stuff happens. This is a physical game. Sorry. Just to clarify this, you said you're going to get any helmet. Also, wear the guardian cap during the game? No, I'm not going to. You feel that about this kind of helmet that you've got. Yeah. Well, the name and the brand of helmet. Like any details you have. Oh, I'm not sure the brand of name yet. I'll have to get it from those guys inside. But you guys will definitely be seeing this soon though. How do you feel about not playing in a precinct game?

4:58:25You have to say you're a career winner. It's not a big deal. I want to say it's not a big deal. But I don't feel any pressure any like, oh, I just needed to play in a precinct game. I feel that's a great opportunity for the younger guys to get out there and showcase what they're able to do. Well, I still been practicing and playing and working out and getting ready for the season. So I mean, I know the game. I'm looking forward to that first game. Yeah, I'm not really concerned about not being able to get a snap of the precinct game. We think about MJ did feeling that he particularly during the joint practice is against Jefferson. Yeah, MJ is the number one corner. I mean, you guys see it. He's going to be big for us this year. And I think that's what's special about this team. We got three number one corners myself, MJ and Greg. I thought we all number ones and we able to do different things out there on the field. And one guy's out. Another guy can step in and not lose track or not lose pace on what we got going on. MJ has a leader in the year three and he's trying to pick on this one as a guy that's bringing energy and also trying to bring it along.

4:59:26Yeah, definitely. Like you said, bring it in. That's exactly bringing energy bringing guys along. MJ is real vocal out there and he competes as he's in competitor out there and just working hard and trying to be the best. He got the mindset of wanting to be the best and he is. So we just go out there and compete with one another. We're happy to see CD Lam get his contract signed and be ready to go out there and play this game so you can face the band. No, I'm definitely happy for him. That's life changing, contracting everything for him and his family. So definitely happy for him and looking forward to going to having that match up in the game. Always love going against the number one guys and best guys on that team. So I'll be looking forward to it. It ends up, we got more of the history. I think it's concussions that we're talking about. I think when you suffer the latest one, people who cover the team and then fans are wondering how loud the discussion could you contemplate and retire? And for that, ever go through your mind or do you immediately know that you're going to come back? Yeah, like I said, this is a game I love, man.

5:00:28I love playing this game, being with the guys all here. I really don't see myself doing too much other stuff. So unless I'm just really physically unable to play this game, I don't see myself stepping away from football no time soon. So like I said before, I can't take it easy on these receivers out here. So me being out here, I got a good look and just go out there and play. But I answer your question now. I haven't seen myself walking away though. Are you actually at a protocol now? Yes. Yeah. Hey, until Greg Culld Miles hardened his teal and drafts. What are you seeing? Sorry, Greg Culld Miles hardened his teal and drafts. When have you seen him from the end of the camp and what kind of excise you by hand? Yeah, Miles, he's been balling. He's been showing out, making plays against the Vikings. And just making plays out here. So it was big for him to make the team. I was happy for him. We all congratulated him. And he's going to be a big piece on our team coming going forward. And so often in another rookie, you mentioned making the receivers better. How have you made Jamari talk about how you've helped him as a rookie?

5:01:28What have you seen out of him in his development? Yeah, he's been looking good since he came in. I think he's been getting better and better. He's night and day from once he came in. So where he's at now, I believe. I think that's just his competitive nature and what he's been doing out there in practice. And us going against one another out there. So he's been good and he's going to be a big piece as well. That's where offense. So what do you get receivers? How can you help a receiver? Yeah, I mean, it's a constant communication. If I were to win on a red, they may come and ask me what it is that you've seen on that. Play that you're able to get in position and I'll tell them that. I may ask them a question. So it's just that constant communication on how we can get each other better. Thank you guys. Thank you. Thank you. Glad to see you back. Glad to see you back. Glad to see you back. Glad to see you back. I just... Like, is that kind of the mindset that you've taken every day in practice? Like, you just said you're not happy during my catch-up with all the people.

5:02:30Like, I was like, 98 out of 100 receivers in school. Does that actually probably not catch your votes on you? That's what? Is that kind of a... Is it keep that in the back of your head and we want to get Jeremiah and Carnell and Brandon and Mecha? Yes, that's my mindset right. In practice all day. Yeah. I want those boys to give me everything that they have. So I go up and up and down. Side of the day is going to be easy for me and I'll be prepared. What have you seen with Grocery, the young people in the corners? Obviously, we saw that it's not a Jeremiah last year. They're your mates, I'm sorry. But Calvin and some of the Aaron and some of the young guys, how have you seen them from all over? And Scott has got a completely better from his brain. Glad to see you back. Is that just time in the program? I'm just getting used to the speed of college. What about Calvin? He was obviously here last year. He was. Calvin has gotten a lot better. I would say that he's gotten a lot smarter. And then he also write GB. Look, he's got Calvin's intelligence, you know, where he's grown.

5:03:33Where specifically is it? The film room? Is it kind of picking up the playbook? Where have you seen that brain up? A grab? I would say Calvin has gotten smarter just like his game knowledge, like expecting like a different kind of routes and stuff like that. What did everything start to click for him so last year was it in the sauce? When did you feel discomfort when he was doing that? I would say it in the spring. I started to get a lot more comfortable in our decent. We saw you break up the past yesterday with the Jeremiah name. I'm sorry if you asked, but it's earlier. But what is like going up against him? Do you think you enjoy it? Yeah, I love it. He's tough. I like going against him a lot. He's really good. What have you improved in your game just from that, for example, those 101 matchups this preseason or whatever? You know how a ball of who disgain it? Yeah, so Jeremiah, he forces me to play the ball because if you don't play the ball against him, he'll go get it. Yeah, yeah. And you, Dave, how would you describe this defense now compared to this time a year ago from this standpoint of a confidence factor?

5:04:35You don't mean that you guys feel on the field? How would you describe it? It's different about it, I guess. I feel like everybody is a lot more smart if there is. Everybody's like, I would just say, I would go just just just just smart. Yeah, but when you look up and layton or an instant decided to come back and Caleb down, transfer it in. What did you feel about that? Did it just grow stronger in that one week span, two weeks span? And you're still on up saying? I feel like those guys have played the level of those guys that have played that? Yeah, I would say that. Like, a down is coming and then, what they say, he was coming back, Zell says he was coming back and just still like, I'm going to be happy to be the native. Yeah, Drake, still? Thanks, man. Of course. Variance versus mobile quarterbacks helps us obviously be a, you know, just help us home and learn from our, where we have, how to go through the hole and how to scratch those. Where we can learn from those crampals and we going from that game and the past game we played against Oregon,

5:05:35just learning the quarterbacks tendencies and when they like to run, where they like to run, everybody helps us out, really closing the cage and catching pocket ball. Is there a fine line between being aggressive but also being wary? This guy can slip away. You're saying what I'm saying, timing? Yeah. You can't just go right at him and go ahead, I'm sorry. Yeah, he's definitely a quarterback and then guess I guess I had to pocket. So I mean, being, he's definitely a threat and he's a main guy in the offensive runs the show. So I mean, being able to stop him and contain him really slows the offense down. So being able to cage the pocket and be able to slow him down and make him make more decisions on the run and moving around. It really helps us. Go ahead, just add one more. Him, I'm sorry. Well, no, I didn't want to ask about their center. Their center, what I impressed with you with him the last time you guys played, he seemed to have a pretty good game, you know, and he's kind of a tough guy to move out of there and stuff that he looks like. I mean, what's your impression of him? He's definitely one of the better centers in the conference. I mean, he's a really good guy. I mean, being able to be there and there be the size and being able to move the way he can is really hard to get around him at times.

5:06:37But he's definitely having a game plan and working against and working to tendencies that he has and being able to work against that. It really helps us, helps me. What happened? Yeah. Yeah, kind of piggybacking on that. How much of it was there offensive line being a strength that our team versus Dylan Gabriel being able to escape and the lack of pressures that we had on our defense? Oh, yeah. I mean, when you got a good offensive line, it makes it even better for a quarterback, you know, being able to roll out to know that your line was going to help you protect you when you're in the pocket. So, I mean, it makes it easier for throws and it makes it harder for us, honestly, for having a good offensive line. So, I mean, like I said before, just being able to attack the offensive line, attack the weaknesses and be able to go after them, make it harder for a quarterback, and he's harder for them or a world. Or for a right, Andrew Gillick, believe in Dr. Brown. What's the challenge? Similar to Tim's question and you know, when you're playing a team like this that runs the level of RPOs that they do that would do. How do you stay true and be aggressive and force the issue where, you know, Dylan Gabriel is really going to make it up for you. Oh, yeah.

5:07:37Like I said, just putting pressure on them, I mean, do you really get it back there? I mean, we got a lot of different plays that can help us get back there faster in playing and playing to their tendencies, you know. A lot of times they have the RPO, the RPO helps them out. It means you get the ball out fast. I mean, I mean, things like Jackson running and JTB, you want to get their hands up, knock the ball down, crazy stream them out of pressure for the quarterback when you got hands in your face all times. And final questions, Bill Rebenelitz, Columbus Dispatch. We've asked about Dylan Gabriel and receivers. They're not one dimensional. They're a good running back in Jordan James. What makes him special and what's the challenge for you guys? I think he's definitely one of the better running backs in the conference of well. I mean, just how hard he runs is it's hard to bring him down at times. So I mean, as a front-forward, we probably stopping around. That's the first thing we're going to do as we go on the game. Patch question is good and all, but we can't stop the run. They're going to run the ball there and throw all the time. So all the time we have to figure out how we're going to stop them. We're going to run the ball and then we're going to take them down. So I mean, it's our job as a front-forwarder going there and stop the run. We're going to make them one-dimensional as we go out there.

5:08:38So I mean, if we get out there every time every mindset we go out there, I mean, we're not going to allow them to get in the yards, allow them to get going. We're going to stop them. We're going to make them throw the ball. When I, uh, JT was up here asked him about how to compare contrast him and Jack as personalities. What's your take on that? How different are they as just personalities? I definitely think Jack is more outgoing. I mean, the guy he's like the light that shines around me and everybody goes around him and everybody loves him. I was going, God, they're going to come to you and shake your hand any time of day. And then JT is more of the blue guy. I mean, a lot of guys gravitate to him. I mean, he just has a bright smile on him all the time. He's just a great guy that people like to be around. And they're two good people, so it's hard to tell. And Ty, I do that one more question for you. Tony Irvin, like I have. You guys obviously have faced Tupper. You did it last week. What's the key for you as a defensive one facing Tupper? Oh, yeah. I mean, we've been going through all week in the past two weeks. It's just getting set. I mean, that's the first thing you do. If you're not set, it makes it harder to do your job. So let's be able to get on the ball, get set before they're lined up and set the ball is one and more important thing.

5:09:42So when we're set, we're able to do our job, set the efficiency before they can do theirs. It could be difficult at times. You know, you got to look to the signline first. You got to get the call. I mean, the call has to be set down first. It can't be difficult at times, but that's the definitely what we've been working on the past few weeks to just get the call, get the call early, get set. So we can go and be play faster. You've chased the play into one side of the field. And now it's lined up. They're going to be heading to the other side. So like you've got to just run the signline side, just to get the line. Oh, yeah. I mean, I have been a lot last game. You know, it's hard. It's definitely tough. I mean, that's what we work on practice. Just moving as fast as we can, we're simulating these things so we can get into the game. It's a lot easier. So we moving around side to side, running around, doing extra conditioning just for moments like this. Thank you very much. Thank you. Thank you. I think you're not going to get hit, but more preseason and first couple of games on the side to see what that looks like. I think of the sheets extension. I'm excited, man. Like I said, from jump, he's a special, special player. He don't really get that so many players like him that's so quick, so fast, at least speed and anchor around routes too.

5:10:52I'm excited to see what he does in the future, but I feel like that's the least they can do for him this year. How do you think he would get in the combo with one another? It's just speed, man. Speed, you can't teach speed at all. Just having us on opposite sides, even to play on both sides. It's just speed down the field. He could run 15, 20 yard in-breakers, out-breakers. And like I said, you can have to play two safes most of the time, or you could run the ball, you could get underneath your house. It's going to be a great compliment to the offense, so I'm excited. Chris, you said you hope this new offensive puts play makers in position to make plays. What about you specifically? What looks in the area where you think you'll have more opportunity than face your game? It's a lot of areas that you can see to look at, to improve my game, but yards out the kisses to one I'm looking forward to. Just more opportunities with that, more space. Just to showcase my speed and my ability with the ball.

5:11:54So I'm excited to do that this year. I'm not really showcase the first two years, so I'm excited to be able to play that. It's something that I could quickly gain momentum in the midfielder just to get in the ball on your hands. Yeah, quick game, play action. More over the middle routes. It's a lot of different things that you could say that this guy's going to help that, but like I said, I'm excited. How would you start the chemistry between you and Eric? We're getting way better, man. I mean, it was our first year last year, so it was kind of up and down, but that's what it comes with the game of football. So we worked a lot this off season, OTAs, which was really good, and we got off to a good start these first two days of camp getting extra working. But that's going to come with time. So I'm not worried about that at all. We both competitors. We both want to be the best. So we got to do something to be good. Where do you kind of notice that difference? Just like feel on route? What do you kind of notice now that it's year two that gets more natural? What do you mean? So like, Derek, are you when you're just in that direction?

5:12:55Where do you kind of notice? It's just like, it's more than that, man. It's in a fail. Everybody's good. So we just got to know what each other is thinking, prec and that post-knife coverage is where the ball's going to go. Just read, what read I am in the progression. Everything goes along with that. Just being on the same page, being, like I said, chemistry is built with time. So just little stuff like that that turns into big things is going to be huge. You caught one from Spencer Rattler today too. What do you heard early impressions from him? He's real talented. That's the first thing I've seen from him. His arm title is all the charts. He's a real natural feel out there. He's going to be real good. I want to see him in action, but from my first impression, he's going to be a real good player. It's going back to the machine that you talked about all the different stuff he's doing. You think there's still a lot more there for him? Oh yeah. He hasn't really, I think this is the first year of being receiver two or really receiver two.

5:13:55In my opinion, we're both receiver one. I just be able to move around, run real routes. Feel like it's going to be a huge advantage for us for the same. It's a special player and I can't wait to see him ball. I can't wait to see him get more opportunities. You can see what he can do. By run real routes, you can get opportunities to run. Yeah, just getting more, you know, he hadn't really played too many plays in the first two years. He kind of keeps getting thrown in there when he's getting the ball or when he's a decoy or something like that. He's actually being involved in the offense, always being in, even on run plays. I feel like he's going to be a huge advantage for him to get a feel for the game and be more natural out there. How far does a firm receiver like that should kind of think of him as a deep threat level? So people just think of him as a deep threat, but he can do more. How hard is it to kind of shed that label or that perception right? I mean, that's what life everybody is trying to label somebody as one thing or two things,

5:14:58but I feel like you can showcase. I mean, that's not really who you are, you know what I'm saying? As it gets more opportunities as you can see, you can see you can do more and more. That's what anybody on the team. So I'm excited, like I said, and for his huge opportunity is going to get this year. And it's going to be a big one for the Saints. Does this scheme ask for more blocking from the receivers as everyone is talking about it? Oh, yeah, for so. I mean, that's what I told you too. We both have to block. And I know we're not the biggest guys or the strongest, but like I said, we want to be on the field. We got to be on the field for the play action plays, all those things. So we both got to go block D-Lime and block linebackers, but that's what comes with football. So we both got to take that next step in our game. Is that somewhere there's like a payoff? I thought you'd play from play action next time. Yeah, it's going to be a huge payoff. Like I said, most of our office is based on play action. All the in-breakers, all the yards at the casual play. So we got to go in there and block.

5:16:00And like I said, take that next step and be able to be grateful for our team. Like in here? Oh, yeah. So, after I filled the weather out here, and that's what I'm used to. I'm not using the war and it's out there trying to catch my breath. It's a great opportunity for us. You get a chance to see family and friends and also, this is their football friend here. Not yet, but they don't come by here soon. Appreciate you, John. Thank you very much. We're going to see the whole field of all these in the pocket. Are two big things in terms of his accuracy? All right, down to Barry WBNF. Coach, this is kind of charted waters with the new playoffs system and everything from an offensive standpoint. How much of the offense is in? And are you holding things back because there's some poofy? I mean, how do you manage all that? Yeah, I don't think we hold anything back. I think our offense is always game plan specific in terms of who we're playing. And how do we attack what they do? Each defense, each defense, your face is somewhat unique.

5:17:03You know, and so you can say, hey, this team's a little bit like this team, but not totally like that team. So I think it's not, hey, this is a really good play. Let's not run it because we're going to need it down the road. You have to win every game. And I don't think you can take that approach of let's save this for another game because you don't know how games are going to express themselves during the course of the game itself. So everything we do is just game plan specific, especially now that we've gotten into the conference play. I think we could add stuff that I think we may have done in the spring, but we haven't used yet just because we haven't faced that defense yet. Thanks for the whole work, not a big role. Chip, in 2022, your UCLA offensive line was a semi-finals for the Joe War award. Today, just offensive lines, maybe semi-finals for that. Do you see similarities from the way that that unit was playing and the way that Justin has your guys playing right now? Do you make me think back? I think they're different. I don't really, I've said it before. I'm not into comparing one group to another group.

5:18:04I didn't know that that's pretty cool for those guys. That's a prestigious award. You know, those guys usually go unnoticed. That's the nature of the position if you're an offensive lineman. They, you know, they're either close or too valuable hardware. They don't really get a lot of attention. They're not the guys that are out in the limelight, let's some of these other guys. But they work their tails off. You know, I think that's the, the gist of any team that's going to be a really good football team. It has to be strong on both lines and that's the fact that they've been recognized for that. That's something that's, that's pretty cool. But now we got to live up, we got to live up to that standard every day. So, you guys don't throw a sign to those awards as coaches, but to see the, the way that those guys have responded since losing Josh has to play Gara in the leader of the offensive. How do you, have I waited that? What do you think of the even way to play without Josh? I've been really impressed. And I think really Donnie and Seth have really stepped up in, in that leadership part. You know, and I think the two of those guys have really kind of led from the front to tough, hard-knosed physical players.

5:19:04Obviously Donnie being selfish and moving from left card to left tackle was a really big deal for us. And he continues to work in his craft every day because, you know, I think everybody just thinks, oh, line. But, you know, all five of those positions are really different. And it's not easy to go from one position to another position. And the fact that Donnie's done that has been great. And I think Seth really, because he calls all of our identifications and directs what our blocking schemes will be, you know, is really kind of fell into that leadership role force. And I think our guys are rallying behind those two. All right, Dave Holmes. WSYF. Ryan talked a little bit about his upbringing at Fenway Park in historic baseball. And he's wanting to get your thoughts on playing a game in Riggly. Yeah, I think it's cool. You know, I've not seen, I've seen just highlights of a football game in there. And I've been to a game at Riggly when I was out recruiting once. But the fact that you can play in settings like that is pretty cool. And I think it makes it unique. Obviously, they're refurbishing their stadiums. So, you know, they got to be on the, they got to either build the one that they did on campus or go to Riggly.

5:20:05So the fact that we get to be the one team that plays in Riggly, I think it'd be pretty cool. And I think our players won't do that. Awesome. More on the podcast. Chip, I know every game plan every week is different. Contention on the opponent. But it's felt like the last couple of game plans have leaned a little bit more on Will's over Russian threat. What's motivating that decision? The defense is that the people deploy. You know, sometimes they always have an extra guy in the box. And if you run the quarterback, then that evens numbers back out. It's as simple as that. You know, some teams don't do that. And other teams do do that. So, you know, it's just sometimes when you get, especially when you get in a conference play, I think there's a lot of people in this league that know how to stop the run. So, you know, you got to be able to have a mobile quarterback and it helps that Will has that mobility. Bill Landis, team to the North. Do you ever integrate up with the player or change something up kind of just for the sake of doing it? To break a tendency or put something different on film? Or is it always opponent specific? No, it's always opponent specific, but you still self-scout yourself. And what are we doing out of this formation?

5:21:06And what is our run pass ratio? And even within that, within that, out of this formation, all runs are this. You know? And then that's always the fine line. Well, we should do something different. Well, what we're doing is working. Why would we do something different? You know, so you kind of play that game and go back and forth with it. But we're constantly working on self-scout of ourselves and tendencies that we're trying to just understand. But some tendencies are good tendencies. You know, you could be, hey, you're 90% run out of this formation. You're also 90% success out of this formation. So, you know, do you not call that ever again because you think that they think that you think this. You know, you can get into that real dilemma of just, you know, it's still about executing and still about lighting up and playing. So, but we do spend a lot of time on that. That's part of what our weekly game plan meetings are about. Any more emphasis on that in a college football season that can now be 17, 18 games where you want to make sure you're sprinkling in different things so that if you could game 17, and a team has a pretty expansive book on you guys, feel wise that they can't, you know, key in on something you've done all year.

5:22:10You want to make sure you get out of those changes. Yeah, there has to be some of those. But again, I think you can drive yourself crazy. But we put this on tape and they think that we can do this because they know that we can do that. They can't do that. And we do that. And I didn't make any sense what I just said. And that's what's going on in your head when you're starting to think about all that stuff too. So, it's that process. You know, I still think you have to part of being really good at it is, what are we good at? And how do we continue to be good at it so that everybody in the stadium doesn't know, hey, they're running the ball over the right side on this play. Because that's what they always do. You know, I think you're still trying to mass some of those things, but you still have to play to your strengths. Can you give me a feedback on the athletic? You should kind of offer a question about local running. I think you're going to be a classic or a couple of years ago, you mentioned. You don't have to do anything else to talk about it to be power all the time. But how have you seen Will's progression in understanding or reading what he does at work? What he does is he wants to do what he does to get him off to Q or Drake, holding, or is that more from you guys sounding as much?