Press Conferences (Lo Styles) Elite Edition September 2

0:00What is it about this that makes it the most fun you've ever had? I really like how this team they put Jesus in the center. I really appreciate that. I'm trying to grow in that space as well with myself. And I feel like they're helping me grow there. Really the culture here. They're trying to push me to be the best self every single day. I'm trying to push them. So when you have that everyone trying to be their best self every day. Coach, they said that you've earned the right to play as defense. First of all, did you hear that comment yesterday? I did not hear that comment. But yeah, I mean, we take special team serious around here. We saw it. We show guys all the time. Chris Alaves, a big one that they share all the time. We're spanking plays early on as a freshman, Marvon, such teams as a freshman. And in a way, I'm still kind of that young. I'm proving myself. I'm proving myself every single day. So I'm trying to make plays there. And then that's going to translate the defense as well. I think you've played the most special team snaps of anybody so far. Do you take ownership of that that you have to be a leader of that unit? I just take pride when I step on the field every snap. I just want to be a leader in that space because I'm starting with all four special teams. So I'm going to contribute in every single way there. Well, actually, I think every guy has to take pride in that.

1:03How do you see what you're doing on special teams that translates when you get out there at NECA? I mean, I would just kind of say like that relentless effort, special teams. It's a longer play. So you go on deep until only four to six seconds. So being able to have relentless effort on special teams, it translates when you go on defense. I'm going to play with the players. It feels good to be out there with my brother. I know we got a couple of snaps together. So being on the field with him, I know my mom and then I'm trying to get the little pictures and they see us on the field together, but it's been great. What do you think of the way that he's played so far, a linebacker? I think he's playing decent so far, but he has to keep you in continuing to improve. He's doing his job, but I want him to take it to the next level and be really be that best lineback in the country. How much do you guys do that with each other? Kind of critique each other's games. I kind of ask him a lot more questions because he's in the interior. So with the nickel and stuff, I have to be in the run pits. So I'm still understanding that with some of our new calls and stuff like that. But I really learned a lot from him, but his big mentors were really my dad. I know his teaching a lot about the game. Do you still power lower it over the moon if it was drier?

2:04Oh, yeah, definitely. Definitely. And the switch from the sea river for the back. Obviously was your choice. Was it a difficult position for you to make? I mean, it wasn't really difficult. When I was at an inner day, I started the transition there. So once I got into it, I was like, I'm about to excel at this position. And I really just took it on. I took it face on and I'm just trying to sell be the best me there. And you've got two very experienced guys that have used the best place. What's the mindset of the obviously better than the last time you had the new? Yeah. I mean, as a man, as a football player, I just hold myself to a certain standard. Where I'm starting, where I'm the backup, whatever it is, I just hold myself to a certain standard. So the way I practice, the way I show up every single day is going to be the same. Whether I'm starting or I'm not. And then, so you get used to playing in college football, playing off things. How long do you take you to get to the side of defense? I mean, it didn't take too long. I mean, you saw, once I get on defense, I was ready to go for my face on. I was ready to go hit. I think that's just a mindset.

3:05My dad, my brother, I grew up in kind of a defensive or two family. So I knew when it was my time to go to the tagline, I got to go for my face on it. What is that face? What do you mean? No slowing down, no hesitation. Straight through contact. Would you give it to your mom? Everybody knows my personality. Yeah. My mom, I think my mom has personality, like just connecting well with people. You see that with her job, you see that with all, she makes friends everywhere we go. Go to the grocery store, go anywhere she's talking to somebody. So I think coming to a new place, I was able to transition one, connect with the guys in my room, connect with my team. Really come part of this culture. Can you explain how to feel like the stadium, the big hit on kickoff? Or hopefully, whatever. Yeah. What is it? What is it? It's in station. It feels like I did my job from being honest. Yeah, I'm just trying to do it every time I get a chance to go do my job. You guys have four guys on your defense who are all from the drinks and what kind of pride do you have to take in that? We take a lot of pride in that. Growing up, we grew up together. We were playing sports since we were young.

4:05So we know that competitive competitive spirit we grew up with and we were in so with our our bads and the coaches around us. So we're speaking that train's out here as well. Thank you very much. Thank you. Thank you. I have a little bit middle school or a little bit in Peeley football, but high school is big, college is big. My head coach, Jack Rose, I could not get to practice. A lot of times my parents were working early every day. So I had to run to his house every morning to catch a ride. It was probably a mile or so. So I'd run, I'd run there. He'd be waiting for me. He would take me to the practice, figure a way to get home. That was kind of my process. And then my high school track coach, my hurdle coach, still now a really good friend of mine. The impact they had on me as a young man was huge. That's well documented in my mind. Then being at Ohio State, Darryl Hazel was our receiver coach. He was steady and he was concrete and he was here the whole time. And they had a massive impact on me.

5:06Frankly, at the end of the day, my life goal and my journey is because of those impact in the earlier of my life. And now I'm just trying to kind of push it forward. But yeah, between my head coach and high school, my receiver, my hurdle coach and high school one that my receiver coach, I know how I've stayed, they changed my life. Honestly, I think for me it's cool, right? So my dad is coach here at Iowa State. Like Eric Koch said with the Bears as well. But relatively speaking, what I think is cool is the story's here, right? I mean, what's so impactful with, you know, coach here and other stories is the fact that it may not be the guy that gave me the best ex-in-os way to run around. Or the way to throw a ball or the way to free the coverage. It's somebody that picked you up when I was running over to your house to make it to practice on time. And I think that's the way that built the confidence in you because they saw that you were that good or that you could do that thing, right? And in all of us, we're all human, right? At the end of the day, right? So the best coach for me, obviously, yes at it, at a certain level wasn't my dad. But it was also those ones that pushed me to stretch my confidence, to be uncomfortable.

6:10That happened here at Iowa State with Coach Strait and that happened with Coach Smith. And even past that, right? I mean, I can tell you, I killed here once I got to the then Washington Redskins and now commanders. It's just that level of swag and some of these guys can just make you feel so confident and do it so easily. But really, it's just that working on you as a human being, right? And that's what's most important, at least in me, as I look at coaching him and what's been most impactful to me. The coaches impacted me heavily here. They've been here for me through my ups and downs. They've watched me grow. This is my freshman year of college. Not only in coach Harvard, because he's been an important person to me. In fact, in my life, heavily, he's taught me how to be a better man, which is very important. Because not only football is not all my life, I have the world world about their experience. He taught me how to be a better man and how I go about that every day. Alright, let's sort of the next question in reverse order starting with you, Carmell. How in his football affected your life? Football means a lot to me. Football has given me my platform. Football has given me the way to go express other things of that nature.

7:11It's given me my platform to reach other people, even the other people. For me, I work as an entrepreneur. Generally speaking, it's the passion to wake up every day knowing that you have to have a slight bit of productive paranoia. That somebody may be doing something better than you. For me, whether it's writing code, whether it's figuring out a way to look at a deal a different way, I know that what football did for me was to be able to push the edge. I always think about something that I could be doing differently or better because of what started right here in this building. It was crappier turf or there was a ripple over there in the corner that we always had to run away from. But at the end of the day, that's what's really helped. It's a loaded question. When you sit and really think about it, at least my perspective, not a little older, I think it's who I am, frankly. I think that it is a platform. There was a time in my life where I did it at a high level because I hated to lose and I was very competitive and I wanted to win.

8:15That was really a big part of it. Then I got kind of cynical to the sport. I hated losing. I hated being around guys that didn't think the same way I did at certain levels. So I got kind of cynical with it and I tried to get away from it. Then when I kind of put my guard back down and realized it's a blessing to be able to football player. Instead of being like a dumb job, you know, it's easy to be labeled at some point. I really owned it. I was like, no, football is who I am. I'm proud of what it represents. I'm proud of the teamwork. I'm proud of the trials and tribulations. It's awesome. I am proud to be a football coach and try to impact others. It's so quick to be a negative connotation to it all. There was a time where I had that. But to see what it has provided, the platform for me to chase my dreams, provided me my personal growth, exposed me to individuals. I never went on to meet. I got to meet a travel places. I never thought I could travel to and take care of my family and away.

9:16I never thought I could. I mean, I'm so thankful for the opportunity to be associated with the sport. Then I just want others to feel the same gratification and excellence that I was blessed to witness. What football means to me, frankly, it means everything from a platform perspective. I think that's so good. I relate to it on so many levels. I've learned so much about life in general. It teaches you lessons. The things that you go through on the field, the things that you do in the off season with your teammates, with your brothers. Those are the things that you can take and put into your real life and learn how to push through adversity. You may years down the line have a bad day at work and you learned during matrioles the six in the morning, how to push through hard times. These things that I've learned in football have grown me up and turned me into a man way sooner than I would have if I didn't have football.

10:16The things that I've learned through this sport and through the people that have had an impact on me because of football. I just feel so much more prepared to go tackle what's next in life. I'm so blessed and fortunate, like Coach Hart said, to be a football player and to be labeled a football player. It's not who I am. It's what I do, but at the end of the day, it is done so much for me. I'm just thankful for the opportunity to have played football. I think it's going to continue to bless me for years and years to come. It's an honor. It's an unbelievable game. I think it's the most pure team sport. There's no sport like it. There's no sport that brings people together like football. I'm a gentleman a little bit on a later note. What is the funniest or craziest moment that you have had in football and will go well and go on down the line? Oh man. Funniest or craziest moment? Cameras are on. Cameras are on. Shoot, man. Yeah. I'm in a lot more recent memory than I was.

11:26Yeah, I mean, in the building out of the building. I know. Whatever you feel like you want to reveal. Yeah. You want to come back to it later. You want to think about it and come back to it later? We'll go. I mean, shoot. I'll just, I guess I'll go surface level here. Pretty easy. I guess last year, throughout the whole playoff run, there are some unbelievable memories. Some of my favorites, I would say one of my favorites was definitely the Jack Sawyer strip sack versus Texas man and going up to him afterwards. Punching his chest and I think I said some like expletives and gotten his grill. The funny thing is that if you ask him about it, he has no idea what I said to this day. He just saw that my mouth was moving and I was fired up. So that was like one of the craziest I've ever been going in my life. You know, I think I don't know what I was saying when he was running down the sideline, but I was losing my mind. So I guess that's that's mine.

12:30I don't know, man. I mean, I feel like all of these crazy moments come with like, hey, I was talking to you and you don't remember that? Like it's all over ESPN and then you're like, hey, we read your lips and then, you know, did you say the right thing? Football field. What are you talking about? But I mean, it's similarly speaking, right? There was so much adversity that we had in our season in 2014 going into the next national championship. And then once we did it, right, there were, you know, hey, are we beating the best defense in the country by 50 some odd points, right? In the third quarter. So I mean, I feel like there's a lot of kind of like, you know, hitting giggle kind of stuff that we had really. But for us, it's just more about those moments, right? Like the ability to come over adversity and say, you know what? These are my brothers and there's no human on this earth that's going to take me away from my goal or my job. And that's to make sure that, you know, I block or capture whatever for for the next guy. So it's the fun memories. I can't put one out for you, but you know, it's it's always a good right.

13:33Yeah, I would say there's a combination that there's magical memory. One that echoes with me for that entire year, frankly, sorry CT was his the game he had in Chicago. That's always sat with me. And I don't know why certain things linger with people, but that one always sat with me for him to go home and do what he did in that environment was special for me. The second one also involved will you know, sometimes we do some game planning and will love to come in and like game plan with us. Sorry, and you know, you know, and so we're just trying to pick his brain about what he likes. You know, I was like, you know, what do you like here? Like if you could pick anyone, I think we're getting ready to go to Oregon and go to the Rose Bowl. And he's like, you know, me, I just like a good pipe, a good pipe call. He said, you like what? He wrote with it. You know, he's like, yeah, man, just just call pipe. I'm like, okay, we got it. All right. So long story short, then we kind of get to the week and come to find out, you know, we got a tempo call.

14:33We call pipe just for Will. And he scored down the middle of field with a Mika Buka at the Rose Bowl for a touchdown. So he likes a good pipe call. And that was his favorite. Plipes a damn good play. Carnell, I'll say the craziest moment. Definitely the Northwestern game back home. They were scored two touchdowns. Thanks to Will, that game. Being back home since my freshman year, playing in front of a family. I probably have 40 members there. So that was another, that was a crazy moment. They also just a nadi experience. That was like crazy. I believe that's like a once in a lifetime opportunity and not like all the things that we've done to get there and all the preparation we put in there, like it's still crazy to the day. All right. Some individual questions for each of you coach hard. Long go greatest play you ever made. The completion, whatever completion it was. The one that echoes though in my brain is probably an opportunity to go to Arizona and Ryan

15:35Tannahill was a was a rookie at the time and I had a chance to break the all time receiving record in yards per game for the Dolphins. Went for like 253 and I don't know, 13 catches, something like that. But there was the last one I remember because they were undefeated. They were six in L, I believe him. And we ended up not pulling out the game. So that's really what still sits with me to this point. But we had an exit call, which was two guys that basically crossed the middle of the field. We caught it on like the 20 yard line. So just two guys sprinting across the field and the foot race. I caught one over my left shoulder and got down the sideline. And there was another dude chasing me. I forget who it was. But I dove from like the five to score and I scored. I remember hitting my back and thinking like, shit, I can't breathe. But like I didn't want to show it. I wanted to have tough. So I got up. And I like, you know, had to cool. And then I'm walking back to the side like, oh, shit, I can't breathe. And, but yeah, that's probably the one that kind of echoes in my mind through those years.

16:36All right, Evan Spencer. One of the most memorable plays in recent years in all his state history was a touchdown pass that Evan Spencer threw right before halftime to Michael Thomas in the semifinals against Alabama. A lot of people may not realize and Evan correct me if I'm wrong. I think you hit that same play called against Michigan State, but it didn't happen. But of course, if you were talking about what what you thought when they called that play for you to throw the ball. Well, the eternal coaches get the first time decided not to throw it. That was too risky. Right. We went to conservative route 11 yards. First down. Let's keep it moving. And then I got so much. I said, I said, I said, I said, there's no, but I mean, you're gonna have 20 people on you. I'm throwing it to you next time. But honestly, that play obviously defined my career. I wish that there were some more moments like that. But ultimately, I think there were other moments in that game that I, that I hold value in the most right block was equal. The block was one, but more the on-site recovery was one of the most specific ones. That was a perfect kick. And at the end of the day, right, those are the moments where it's like, hey, it's it's mono, it's me versus you. Right. I don't care what a 40 years. I don't care what a vertical is. It's how bad do you want it? Right. And I think that's a theme that we'll probably talk about. And hopefully you guys can take back with your kids as well. It's how bad do you want this? Right. I mean, I talked earlier about a productive paranoia. It was I I can catch more balls in the day.

18:04Because I feel like you're trying to outnumber me. Right. So like it's similarly speaking here. Right. So once I get back to that on, it's like kicking and the kicker puts it on the opposite hash. And it's coming to me. And it's like, hey, I'm here for a reason. Right. Now it's time for me to do my job. Right. So for me, that was one of the most fulfilling. Because it had to come down to that. You know, my teammates were relying on me. Everybody was relying on me. And at the end of the day, it was a team-based goal. I didn't do it to catch a touchdown. I didn't do it to do anything else. But to secure the wing for my brother. Right. So I think that's the only way to do it. I think that's the only way to do it. I think that's the only way to do it. I think that's the only way to do it. I think that's the only way to play brothers because we had to grind and already get there. So that's one of the best thing. That's the most fulfilling. Crenel, if you talk a little bit about the national championship, but if you would, talk about what was like when you guys came out onto the field had home against Tennessee. You saw a little bit of that orange, but you saw a lot of Scarlett Greg, and what it was like to play in the first ever home game in December at Ohio. Stayed. What that game was very exciting. That was like our first night game home game in the show, so we are here to be nervous, go on. informationual.com. It's a level four of course. But you know what? I just wanted go on to the team to have a tournament to discuss the gala as came. I just wanted to tell you, I was like said, That game was very exciting. That was probably our first night game home game in the shoe. We knew they ate the cook, dust up something as far as the environment there.

19:10We were just ready to play. We were ready to go prove ourselves. All the preparation we put in, we just came off a loss. We were just ready to go let it rip. And then the guys, we went out there high energy, we went up quick. They had their shirts off, but last week we gonna stay warm during their pre-games. I'm a little bit late. Now we'll give you the one non receiver sitting up here, but if remember from looking over your buy on getting ready for the season, you do have a career touchdown reception. Tell us about that. I do. It was my first game, my senior year last year, 2023 at Kansas State. I actually had a passing receiving and rushing touchdown that game was against Southeast Missouri. So it wasn't a huge game, but I guess triple threat right there. I don't know. But it was like a, you know, I gave the ball like an outside zone action and threw it back to me. It was like a screen and I ran it like five or two times.

20:10Did you trip? I stayed up this time. It wasn't that long. So I kept my feet, but that was fun doing that. I was the only time I did that. Oh good. Lastly, for each of you and Will, we'll start with you and go down the line. What do you wish that your high school coach had demanded from you to help you get ready for the next level? That's a really good, really good question, man. I think, you know, all I wish I would have been told when I was in high school is that, man, like, you never know what's going to happen. And you may have a plan, especially, you know, if you're going on to the next level or even in high school, you may have a plan for what's going to happen, but it's about how you're able to adapt and adjust and take coaching and take criticism. That can make you great and that can take you to new levels. And if someone had told me that, you know, as much as I wish I maybe would have listened to that, I don't know if, you know,

21:1416-year-old me would have really understood that, but, you know, if there's some way that you can make these kids understand, like, man, you never know what's going to happen, but you just work hard, have fun believing yourself. At the end of the day, everything's going to work out and, like, just trust in your work and trust in yourself. And, you know, I think I'm a believer in positive reinforcement, man, and pump these kids up. Yeah, you may have to get on them, but pump them up, man, at the end of the day, like, make sure that they still love the game, because I saw that in my high school, you know, I had a coach that was hard on guys, and some guys just didn't understand that. You know, but there were other guys there to help pick them up. And I thought my coach did a really good job of establishing a staff that was, you know, guys of different backgrounds that could be. You know, get along with different groups of players and coach from different perspectives. And I think, you know, I had a really good experience with my high school, and, you know, I'm really thankful for the coaches that I had, but, man,

22:14just the more that you can reinforce, have fun, be flexible, don't take yourself too seriously, man, this is a game at the end of the day. And you got to have fun playing it, you know, if you want to have any success. Yeah, I think, through my experience, I, I, I've changed positions. I was a receiver. Well, first of all, I ran track as a freshman. I was pretty good as a freshman. By the time I got to the freshman football, though, or that sophomore year, I didn't play. It wasn't ready to play. I was a sophomore. And so I had a decent head on my shoulders. My parents were crazy pushing me, and he has to play. I didn't earn it yet. So that was fine. My junior year, I started to play where I was the quarterback, though, we didn't have another guy at that time, the quarterback I was playing quarterback, my brother, and I've come up and taking my job as a freshman, to be the quarterback. So I moved to my general spot as a, as a receiver. And then my first game in my senior year, I broke my leg. So I lost my senior year.

23:16I stayed motivated when I run track that spring. So and I had a lot of people around me motivated me to do so. And that was very beneficial for me. But I think when I look back, there wasn't a whole lot of motivation needed. I think for myself, I think that the one thing I wish they would have pulled out of me more was probably more leadership. I think we had a, a good group of guys in our school at the time that naturally wanted the best version of themselves. They didn't need a lot of motivation. But I would have liked my coach to pull me aside and demand, demand more leadership out of me with my peers. I think I probably did a decent job, so they kind of left me alone, but I know I had more, more in the tank. And I wish they would have seen that, challenged me on that, and then tried to quantify that, whether I was doing a good job, or not doing a good job. I think I was the responsibility of a guy that really needed it. Not another guy that was in a good spot, but a guy that really needed some leadership, maybe, I don't know, like, a violinist home or some kind of situation I could have helped.

24:16And I just didn't have that perspective of where I was to try to do that. I was great with everybody. I was friends with everybody, but I think I probably had more gas than the tank from a leadership perspective. And I think the coach is what it pushed me to do that. That's probably the one area that I kind of regret. No, that's great. I mean, it's a perfect thing. Leadership takes every team to success, and without it, you don't win. At the end of the day, for me, is I think back about what I wish the coach would have prepared me a little bit more for coming out of high school. It's just the focus on the relatability of the small things. Making it to training table five minutes early. Yes, everybody makes it on time. But are you the first guy in training table? Going to your tutor. Sure, you may not need a tutor, but are you the first one asking questions? Why is this important? Well, working a muscle also means working the discipline muscle too. Are you disciplined enough to run around when you're tired and you can't think? Are you disciplined enough to know exactly that that's the coverage, even though they're tilting a new way.

25:16This guy's looking at me a very specific way. And every time I see him on film, he does this. And it's always covered too. You have to train your discipline muscle. And I think for me, that was something I really had to work hard on. Everybody that steps foot in this room or room similar to it are the best at their position in their area. Period. That's the only reason you get here. So once you get here, the ability, your ability to go do those things is not what's going to make you great. Your ability to push the edge, your ability to try to catch a thousand more balls than anybody else on your team. Your ability to go a perfect rate at attendance, at tutoring, or training table, or mentoring, or what have you. Those are the things that apply. Yes, that means you may go for a million touchdowns. But guess what? You're going to be an awesome person when it comes to being a husband. You're going to be an awesome person in the boardroom, or at some company, or what have you. Training that muscle I think was one thing that I learned, but definitely could have been more refined coming out of high school for sure.

26:16For me, it's the next play mentality. I mean, I feel like a lot of us get too caught up in the moment that was going on. We may drop a ball like receivers and stuff. But it's like the next play that matters. You can't let the last player to venture from going to make the next play. Like life goes on, life moves on. So you can't let the past prevent you from going to succeed in the future. And then something that's always stuck to me is not even coach our preachers. It's now being uncommon amongst the comment. I mean, like we're all at least receivers out of our stand, but it's like the little thing like like Spencer said, what's up. Sorry, what separates us from each other. Like we all have the great playmaking ability, but it's like you have to be consistent in the room to stand off from each other. Those are the things that stuck with me. Gentlemen, thanks for sharing continued success and everything you do. Thank you. You go, bro. He operates beyond his years, but the techniques and the fundamentals. He's chasing a lot of the guys. I mean, you get to a certain point where you're doing a really good job. You're chasing that 1%, you're chasing that finite growth. It's not always seen on film. The individual may feel it, whether it be your base or your technique and the consistency of which you do those things.

27:29That's what he's chasing. I think he's chasing football IQ, learning more about the game, defensive structure, anticipation, more than a reactionary. But there's always ways to grow. I mean, if you try to mark the goals of these young men and where they currently are, they're obviously not where they want to be. So whatever that gap needs to get filled, that's what he's chasing. So I'm sure he has some of the highest goals, and he's not that right now. So he is chasing that gap, minimizing that gap and he's doing a good job being hard on himself. You've got to step them down for a couple of weeks. What have your impressions of Tyler Bohn and how he's handled himself on that very good job? Yeah, I mean, I think he's a great dude, man. Like I enjoy talking with him. I like being around him. Very smart from a football standpoint. I love the way he views things. I love mechanically how he tries to help these guys execute plays based on body mechanics and leverages.

28:32And in that strike points, I just like his view on things. So I enjoy that. But as you're talking football, I mean, I enjoy talking to him and being around him as a person too. So his ability to connect with guys doesn't shock me. I mean, I connect with him. So, but I've been very impressed with the amount of young men that have visited and been on campus. And I just think he's putting a lot of time into it, a lot of effort. And it's definitely showing. So he's doing one heck of a job. And we're just trying to help him out as we can. Ryan was mentioning the idea of increasing Jeremiah's route tree. Something you guys have been working on. Where was it last year in work? Can I guess grow or can you expand on that? Yeah, I mean, just, you know, asking JJ do everything, you know, I mean, you know, everyone will put him in a box. You don't want to put carnell in a box. You want to put anybody in the box. You know, so to make sure he's, you know, fully equipped with every tool necessary to do anything that's required of a receiver at the college level and NFL level.

29:46We take a lot of pride in developing that route tree technique, but it's really, you know, the play with the mind of, you know, routes based on coverage and all those things. So, but yeah, just trying to find ways to challenge him and that that's been one of the ways he's done that. When you guys were talking as an offensive staff about the possibility of having a quarterbacks go live, were you surprised that it came up? Were you surprised that you guys wound up doing it? What were the deliberations? I'm surprised it's even a conversation like it should always be live. Let's tell you, tell you, tell you play football. So obviously there's a proximity to the season, which is a little reckless, I understand that. But in spring, when you're competing for jobs, I mean, if I'm a quarterback, I'm asking to be live so I can show him how I'm different than, you know, anyone that can't be live. You know what I mean? You're always trying to find an edge. And if you're never fully live, I don't think you fully give guys opportunity to be who they want to be or who they can be.

30:47So that being said, you know, I will cast my vote, but that will not be my final decision on that, but I will cast my vote. I think I was able to handle it well. It was good for all parties involved and more we can do that better, but ensure that is coming to a close here very quickly. That would be 24th. Right. Jeremiah off the field. We saw after practice on this Saturday that the mob that came to get autographs and things. When you're working with him on all these things you're talking about, but also dealing with the life of being one of the biggest names in college football, how do you help mentor him in that aspect? Yeah, I mean, it's a blessing to be able to be in a position where, you know, can provide insight or I wouldn't say recommendations, but just give perspective. What he chooses to receive the first perspective or not one or not, I mean, he always does, but which is fine. But to be in that position is really humbling.

31:50That being said, he does a really good job on his own. He doesn't need to check down too much. He's really done a great job. Again, the way he was raised in his morals and humble would always sign and taking pictures. I'm always trying to be the bad guy for him because he's not going to be and just says again more about his character. But he's not the only guy. Any guy would kind of do that. We have a group full of awesome young guys, but Jeremiah has done a great job with it. He's on it and it's definitely growing at an exponential rate to say the least. But I think he's built for it. He's been handled at a high level, but those around them were trying to help not a little bit. What made Quincy the first freshman to lose his black straight mission? Yeah, I mean, that's a good question. I think that, you know, frankly, you know, I don't, I'm not really fully involved with that. So that can be, but I wasn't.

32:54I think that people on the outside, whether it be defense or even coach day or anybody brought it to my attention, you know, we're kind of just going about practice and that's our expectation and make plays, not make mistakes. And he was starting to make a lot of a lot of plays consistently. I think the consistent level that he's been as a person, being on, being on time and doing his job description on each play and the ball is coming your way or making some big plays. And, you know, it starts, it starts being seen by your peers and your peers start asking for it. They start barking, getting a stripe off all those kind of things. That's the ultimate sign of respect. I think when your peers, you know, go to your bat. And he's not going for his bat. No one, people are bringing it to your position coach. I think it speaks volumes of the general respect that you're earning through the process. So I think it's something like that happened. And, you know, it's what is served based on his peers and the other coaches. Ryan Day was talking about how impressed he's been this spring with Austin's serval. All that he's been able to do and Tyler Bohn was talking last week about the importance of the cross-training and all that that goes into that.

34:01How much have you seen Austin benefit from this spring and everywhere that he's been and how big of a piece you think he's going to be regardless of where he fits on this offensive line? Yeah, I think Austin's been awesome. I mean, he literally, you know, what was he say, he played every split, every position, we just move around, you know, and he handles it. And, you know, he's one of those guys I feel like he watched film over and over again day after day. His name never really gets brought up, you know, in a good way. Like you know, the old line, your name gets brought up when. He's usually not going as well, you know, I mean, they're literally at the point of attack on every single play. So there's nowhere to hide. And so, but Austin, when his name is brought up, it's like, man, that was a good job. Right, good job. Pass off that combo. Whatever, it's always positive. And, they're really impressed with him. They start in the winter. They did a great job through the winter again, continuing to build a respect for his peers. And then he's going to a good job. Really good job just being very consistent to spring. What do you think about the up-yielders, press pros? Brian, since you've been working more with the whole offense, when it comes to quarterback play, what has grown in your, I don't know, appreciation in that position and what those guys have to do and go through?

35:12What do you think more about those guys versus maybe what you thought before is just a wide receiver guy? I mean, there's just a wide receiver guy. If you are just a wide receiver guy, you won't be a very late or long. It's all about quarterback play, you know. So I think in that same world, though, to the point is that, you know, in order to be a great receiver or receiver guy, whatever you want to call it, there's only one page, just a quarterbacks page. So everything is based off them. There, whether they're progression, they're timing, the stresses they have is what we're trying to minimize. So if you don't fully understand the quarterback play, it's hard to maximize receiver play, I think. That being said, yeah, I'm still always learning. I think that I can't say anything's jumped out massively right now. But I would say that, you know, I guess I would say the preparation level, I mean, what is required to execute and play at a high level?

36:12It's just not capable in the allotted time, right? I mean, there's only so much time where I'll be with players. If you're not willing to spend, you know, your own time getting prepared for practice to be to maximize one's ability. There's a good chance you're not going to maximize your ability. So, you know, other positions, I mean, aligns same thing. I mean, receiver play sometimes can, you know, get away from it. We do a great job studying and being in the room extra for sure. But the requirement of a quarterback to know, the fixed protections, the BR run game coordinator based on the calls, you know, to get us in different checks. I mean, there's so much thing you know. And frankly, you know, the, you know, the aligns only as good as the quarterback. The receiver's aligned as good as the quarterback. They're often as good as the quarterback. And it's our responsibility to put guys in position to maximize with our capable of maximizing. But their inability to notice that they need to spend extra time outside the allotted time, I think is critical. And the amount that it takes, I guess that was maybe a little naive to, but the guys are doing a great job doing it.

37:15Just a couple more coaches got a meeting. Rob, all right. Come this fashion. Brian, you know, you guys reached the mount top. You got a banner out there, national champs. I keep these guys grounded. Being in the moment, looking ahead, not back. Are you tougher on them? Because no, I think that. I mean, I think we have a lot of guys. You know, I think it's understanding that we were trying to build the map to get to where you wanted to get to. But now that we have the map, doesn't mean we've traveled the path. So like we know what it looks like. The guys that are here know what it's supposed to look like. The guys before us, sitting on the believable example of how to get to where you want to get to. So the focus is on trying to replicate what they just did and how they operated. Can't say we've done that right now. So it's very easy to stay motivated because they already know it's not good enough, frankly. And so the last thing they want to do is put in a ton of effort and then not reach their goals. So motivation, I don't think is needed. I think there is a catching up of those. Maybe aren't quite sure what it takes.

38:23But overall, motivation is not what we've needed. A clarity of message is definitely what we've been focused on. And I think the message is being received. So not concerned about motivation and looking back, if you will, I think everyone's pretty pretty focused on being forward and knowing we haven't accomplished anything. Who would you say is the leader of your YBC room right now? I would say Cornell Tate, Brennan and his pride have done the most most outspoken, you know, in the room. Yeah, I would say they're doing a good job. Those are probably the two guys that would jump out my room. Brennan, he's been in the vocal. Obviously, Cornell taking on that role more and being more vocal. He's a good football player. Obviously, he's the only other. But that process for him and becoming a more vocal leader took to say that on him. What's the question? What do you think like the growth part of it?

39:25Yeah, I mean, he's I think he's pulled guys aside, you know, it had one-on-one conversations with him. He's locked in, you know, just I think he saw the impact that a mecha made and the role he played. And to think that you're gonna lose that and then be a better group part doesn't mathematically make sense to him. So someone's got to step up in that role. One, and on respects him too, he knows he's capable of it. And it's just the desire and the appreciation, I think, to be at the table now, the older head. And appreciate the way a mecha probably went about his business. And so he probably valued that, appreciated that. And he's just being assured we still have that. Final question, Bill Rebell, what's the bonus this back to you? Could you assess the running back room? I think it's pretty much assumed both those running backs to CJ and James. I think that tandem system is probably the way you better go again. How do you think it's working? And you see there were maybe fourth guys up in there. I think that, you know, college football, NFL football, any football really, you gotta have depth in the running back room. I think that this very apparent in the NFL, it's usually a two back system, you know, very unfair rarely is it one guy.

40:36But in college, I think we saw the benefit of that last year. The ability to compliment each other is really important. The ability for us to identify what they do great and put them in good positions to be what they are. What their best that I should say is really important as a coaching staff. I've been very impressed with even the younger guys Sam and and bow and the way they've come along. Consistency is what you're chasing, right? You're always able to. That's why you're here. But how often you do it ultimately dictates how much you play. But overall, I think locksmen on them, they understand the standard and in pass pro and not being a guy we got to sell them out because you can't pass protect. We were blessed, especially with Trey last year and in Quinshaw. But no, these guys have done a good job. They're competing. They've been very coachable. It's shown a plot on film. But yeah, I mean, it's always hard on backs. I mean, every opportunity you get to go live and break tackles really keeps you the most feedback on what these guys are capable of.

41:38If you're just playing tag out there, you never get any art. At least you shouldn't. But the running backs on contact days have done a good job. James has done a really good job growing. Really excited about him. Everyone's really excited about him and CJ. So, I think ultimately, how group the group be is probably based on the bottom horizon. You're going to have some guys at the top, but where's the floor? And so I think Bo and Sam has done a really good job. And many more guys to get healthy. More guys on campus, but very encouraged coach. Thank you very much. Thank you. What do you think about the take over? You like it? There's a lot of orange in you. So I think the red over two with the star on some. You know, I think it even noticed that. All the best they have fans in labor. I don't know whether they're going to be able to do a lot together. The way we wanted them to go, but the lower mix they say, they'll continue to trust each other and trust in them.

42:51And the coaches we have built here. You don't feel like different cars. You principally die. You know, we're just... Yeah, we're just very three weeks prepared. Sometimes we get tired going and starting. We're just going to have somebody else lunch. So they were able to do that. We're able to tackle somebody and just get out the cage and lose their... And today, man, we're just... to release off my dog. Was there a moment out there that person would be like, hey, young guys, what made that mean for one out of the time? Did you... once you were in the troll, what was here? What was it? I mean, we're playing on top of this, but we have to say like 10 a.m. at the last game, I think it was Vanderbilt. Vanderbilt went on to 17. And they came back and went. So we understood that, you know, this team's not going to back the arrow and get to the team. We're all on top of this. Yeah. So we all were able to try to get a little more time. We all were able to help.

43:54Yeah. The project goes on just to me. It's being created for our DB stuff. To attack me is different. It was a great project. It gives different looks and things. I think we saw that today. It's a different defense when the offense starts the way they do. When your offense started the way you did, it was that they did for you guys. I mean, we just beat off of it. They started it. And, you know, we just... we were already hyped and kept seeing the way they went down the score. We just ramped everything up by tarry. So, um, things that you guys might have come up with something as well. You guys move on to work and then all that stuff is on the dodges. I mean, they're great teams. They're a basic last game. I know they elevated. So, I've been... we just have a... we have some time to prepare. Time to get our bodies right. It's just a team that just... I hope the last thing... Are we looking forward to that rematch? Oh, yeah, but it was definitely. I mean, there's a lot of... behind this... playing them twice in one of my first years...

44:56In part of this year. You know, we're very motivated. We understand that he's going to be a hard-farking and a poor part of the game. And we're going to get ourselves ready. You are going to be ready? J.T., I know you and Jack. I'm supposed to close the relationship. How special is it when you both play at the level that you did today? I mean, a match. You know, like previous games, I always match that energy. And whenever he makes a play, I want to make a play. And he provides for us. But to say him and it makes me happy. And I'm blessed to play alongside him. And I can be thankful enough to have him. And I can work alongside me as well as everybody else on this part today. Do you feel like I was the best game you two had collectively? I think it's up there. It's up there. I'm going to take turns and look like I got a second out of sack. He got one I got one. So, I mean, we're just really on the show this year. So, we always reign the heavy games like that. And we've got continuous take assisted in putting another game together. And we have to help him with it. You guys, again, on the screen. A lot of sorry. A lot.

45:56We're now in the comments for the red light. So, I think it's a common promise. Yeah, so I think that was just the very main part we had is going to offer it like Tennessee. Very close of office. SEC play of the year. We had to go back back. You know, they were like, sorry. Can you please just make sure it's yours? Sorry. I'll try that. I'll talk to you. Jerry's a year old. I've heard Jerry's a year old. But, yeah, so they have a lot of weapons. No, we had to understand that. But we had to play Gaps out. They just continued to attack every time. I have really, really good agents. And, you know, the people across the team, they like them. And they're just, the process went really smooth. And I feel like I didn't need to take it any further than what it was. Because I love this program. I love this team. I love the organization. And, yeah, I just thought I didn't need to go any further. And signing it there in the hotel.

46:57I just all worked out as well as it could. And then I'm still pissed off about the game. So. It's not the only one of the drafts of my child. So, playing the game with that, you just put your head down. Like, you just get out of it. What are the things you should do? You really know what it's like. Yeah. You know, I was a tough process with the draft process and everything at that. And I'm sure without that medical flag, I probably wouldn't have been a little bit higher. But, I mean, honestly, it all worked out the way I was supposed to. I couldn't have asked for a better opportunity than to come here and get that call from George. And it was just awesome. And, you know, even looking back at that, it all worked out the way I was supposed to. So, really not upset or mad about it. But, just know that it's time to get back to work. I'm going to call it up on what you said. I mean, thank you. How much does it mean that this team believes in versus the end of the dilemma,

47:58so how the word is that kind of stack up? And this organization has that completely. So much. So, I feel like that just gives me, you know, just humbles me to know that my work that I have to push forward has to be better. And I know I can be better and play better. And I just feel like that's where my mindset is. It's just like, how can I even exceed this? How can I show my appreciation after on that field? And, you know, the fact that they believe in me and my teammates is make sure I don't want everyone to let them down. And I know that with moving forward and stuff that I definitely won't. I definitely won't. But, just going to keep working and keep going. Just happy that they believe in me. How exciting is it that you're locked up now for your attention. But, you look at this young defense, and a lot of these guys can be along for the ride and move forward with this solid game.

48:58Yeah, we've got a lot of young talented guys on this defense. And I think we're only going to get better, you know, even just moving forward. The way we've been able to accomplish things this year. And I feel like we still haven't played our best defense, you know. As a unit, as a whole, I mean, people have individual stuff. But I feel like just together we can grow and get even better. And I feel like that just comes with just more time. Because, like you said, we have a lot of young guys. And I'm just excited to be a part of it. And definitely going to do all that I can to lead and help us get to wherever we need to go. You mentioned you understood a part of the procedure. It's not before the draft. Yes. Have you had a chance to reflect on what you have over a covenant? You told yourself back then that you need to be at the stand here. And it's really going to believe that what's all that you. I don't know. But honestly, I always believed in myself. And, you know, my family helped me with that so much. Just always believing in me, always telling me what I'm capable of.

50:02And helping me along. And I mean, like shout out to my mom for everything that she's done for me. And getting me to this point. Yeah, I mean, I don't reflect too much. I only like to move forward. It's like a starting point for me. And I know I'm going to grow for this. But I mean, all to that credit, I reflect with my mom. And I'm sure she'll help me out with that. What could have loved my mom the same way? What are the next steps that you wanted to take into yourself? Yeah. Probo for one, being an all pro outside linebacker, being dominant. And, you know, really holding myself up to the standard that was set here. I feel like with Vaan and the Marcus Ware and even Chubb. And, you know, just want to keep going and keep working. And, yeah, I just, I have this new motivation, you know, to keep going now. So, just really excited.

51:04We get work so that we get more coverage to get clothed by the rain. How important is it to get by the sun to get punched in the face. And try not to hit your feet in the gym. Yeah. I just want to do that. Make sure it's very easy. Yeah, it's just getting back to work. Knowing that the things that we've done have been good enough to this point. It's just cleaning up the little small things. You know, this was going to happen as league. You know, you're going to get punched in your mouth every now and then. But, it's how you respond to it. And I feel like our team has definitely a good mindset to show that our response will be strong and solid. And, yeah, I got full confidence moving forward. And, I think there's a lot of ways. I was either at the two of the most unique quarterbacks in the last two weeks in the water, not in the slip of home. How do they differ probably similar and more than challenges? Well, both two top quarterbacks in our league. Obviously, I mean, both MVP, Caliber, guys.

52:05We all know how decorated Patrick Mahomes is. And, easy as just a phenomenal competitor. You know, probably the best competitor in this league. And, you know, that means every time we face against him, we're going to get some more Sunday. You have to have your best because, you know, you're going to get that from him. And, I know it would be ready to answer that. So, I was going to ask you, you have to contract and then also to trade with Aaron. How tall would you say you're not giving what talent you should have for each other? The last couple of years. Yeah. Barren's been my guy for, my teammate for eight years, you know. For a past this, you know, and even our time in the league. And, I was really hurt and really sad to see him go. But, I know it's a good opportunity for him. And, I know he'll take full advantage of it. We all know how talented Barren is. Fantastic football player.

53:06Fantastic dude, man. That's my brother. And, you know, I wish him all the best. I talked to him before he went. And, I know he's going to go there and ball. So, I'm just excited to see what he does. I think he knows how it ties in and he's been around with some really good coaches. I think it'll be pretty seamless and I think we'll be far out of all cylinders. You're a three-months-revew from the Super Bowl now. So, how have you, I guess, digested it and I guess physically everything's going to get to go? Yeah, I feel really good. I think it's been one of my better off seasons. It's just kind of, it was a long year. So, I took it nice and slow to get back into it. Not as young as I once was. I was taking a little look, a little slower, but everything's great. I'm feeling as good as that felt. I'm excited to actually get some practice in. Last year was kind of tough getting thrown in week one after a walkthrough.

54:08So, that was another reason I'm excited to be here. It's just to get practicing a little bit in season practice is one thing, but actually being able to work your stuff and not have a game coming up is good. With the Super Bowl, unfortunately, I know it bounced back from tough losses. So, it was rough for a little bit, but now it's just annoying when people bring it up. Since the end of last season, you've seen a rock on TV commercials on the stage with Clube Cooms and thrown out the first pitch in a giant scheme. But it seems like a guy that's totally unaffected by celebrity, which he has now. What have you noticed in his leadership style in the way he carries himself? Any difference at all? I think he's definitely getting a little more vocal within the building. I don't think he's ever going to change. I don't think he's going to change even when he gets paid next year.

55:08So, he's a man of faith and kind of reminds me of Scotty Shepler. Except for... Just a super humble and really good kid. And, yeah, he's definitely famous. He's famous. Do you know Shepler? I don't. Just from watching. You had to use Armsted to get released. Obviously, he meant so much to the fans of the line into the team. Let me call John Wapri open if they were willing to talk about trading Divo or IU at draft. Does that just another... What's that feel like in a locker when those sort of jolt happen? I didn't even know that happened. I know I wasn't here. But you're talking about this off-season? Yeah, Armsted will in a warm air in Italy. Oh. So, that's certainly one thing. Yeah. It's a tough business for sure.

56:09You have to have thick skin and... I haven't gone through that. But I think you just have to understand that it is a business and the team is going to try and get as good as it possibly can with or without you. And you have to look up for yourself. That's why you go through holdouts and do certain things that seem selfish in the moment. But it is what it is. And everything settled. We're going to come together as a team and try and go get one. What's the overall feeling around the group right now? Like how much does it feel like the excitement of the ramp up to the season, even though it's early? It feels good. It's been a couple of days for me. So, I like all the new guys. I'm getting to know everybody. But I think the past is in the past and we're ready to go. Can you talk to B.A. I'll be talking to B.A. It's all about handling the business part of this. Let me chat a little bit, but not too much about the details. I just told him to keep his head up and try and stay positive, Virgil.

57:13Well, we're a personal one. You like your schedule would be in that area in August as first up. It would be fun. Yeah, it's going to be, can we do one? Thank you. Kind of alluded to this. For the fact that you last year, you had to have a holdout to say that the fact that you drew somewhat early in the season. If you hadn't had that experience, would you be doing it again? I mean, was that part of the motivation for being here earlier just to have the opposite of what I drew up to? No, I don't think that's one of the reasons, but I just talked to Kyle and he kind of asked me. He kind of stated how he felt about why it would be good for me to be here and asked if I agreed and I 100% did agree. It's not like I'm missing too much. I think out here it's a little less workload than I'm doing back home. It's kind of a good active recovery thing for me and I'm getting football stuff, football work in specifically.

58:19So that's good. It's not compromising my training at all and get to meet all the guys. How did Joe get there? I'm glad he got to my friend down. Oh no, he's there. He's got a new regime over there. I actually thought I was coming next week until recently, so I was going to have one more week at home, but we're both in California. So I was saying, were anything you'd like share about Conno's reasons that you agreed with for being here? Yeah, just the things I already stated just getting around the guys and just getting the football stuff homeed in a little bit before camp steps. You've been afraid to speak on player safety issues and things like that. That's the playing service and things like that. The 18 game schedule has been kind of disgusted in here recently.

59:21What is your kind of take on that possibility? I don't know how many games I could just keep adding. Yeah, I don't know why I want more needs to be added, but... Yeah, it's not my job. It's the fight to say you'd be against it. I think 16, 4, 4, 4, 4 were the good bull setup, but... So good. I'll put it. Yeah, but then we got a short enough season program a little bit. But no comment. Thank you. Boys, how much power supply for this year? He's there, respect the end of the court in my room. He's just known not even in the receiver room, but as a whole team, as like I heard you guys. Like, when days are down or they're slow or whatever, you know, I'm just bringing energy, there's a club and they're piping everybody up.

1:00:23Whether he's like impacting on the field or not, he just knows for that. What's your 5th and number 5? I don't know. I just kind of like it. I kind of wore the word when I got what I was in high school, but I mean it was open when I got here, so I was like, of course I'm going to take it. You know what's a big plus, that's the highest number, so I was like, you're able to take it. So you've heard the care and stuff? Yeah, I've heard a lot. Foodie? You like that or you just like, I'm ironed that? I mean, it's cool. I mean, I understand how good he was and how much legacy you left here about that day. I just want to be my own person, not have to live with anybody else in the series, but I understand how much of a legacy you left in the time. We talked about where you from since you arrived last year. How much of a shock was it? God. I mean, it was a pretty big shock. Just the adjustment from high school to college, especially that six months ago, that six month window. I really had like been out all season just working out, but just coming here, adjusting to college, speed, tip other things, it was a pretty big shock. Does it feel crazy to be here?

1:01:23Yeah, I think about that all the time. I'm like, if I were to got here last year, like when all of them committed really, make your release came, like, I probably would just not be in season. So it is pretty presently. Coach Harle always told me like, you do have a lot of concern up to do, but I told him like, as we were down in the winter, like, I understand what he meant by that. When you look at last season, what did you take away from that year? I'm saying maybe not getting on the field as much as you wanted, but I imagine there was a lot of growth. Things like that. What is your takeaway for the pressure? Just understanding how the games go, how the college players, the tempo, how fast it is. I'm running from a Mecca. I felt like a Mecca was a pretty solid pro even when he was here last year, and I lied a lot from him. Like I said, understanding just the playbook more, just the tempo, runner, offense, and the salary. What's your relationship about with your mom? We're pretty close. I say we're both. Neither of us are too pretty unspoken, but I mean, we're pretty cool. I'm tight with all guys, we're super close. It's just interesting. He got here early and such a big impact. We're developing a gap.

1:02:27Like you've got to have an impact together. Like his class was, like, it doesn't have a good time. Come together. Yeah, it was so good. Like you said, I think I heard last year had a amazing impact. Spuces as a person, but yeah, I mean, it looked pretty good. Both of us in the same class that happened to stand kind of in bed. It's been like watching Brighton Hardline, and stepping into his role. What do you think of his offense? I like it. I feel like he's more aggressive. But I like it. He still does a great job coaching himself, even though he doesn't maybe have as much time. But I do feel like he's still does a great job with us, understanding he has to do with us and the whole offense. He talked about other guys, guys like that, how much of an impact do other coaches make helping to keep track of the receiver and the scanners. I need some of the older guys. Yeah, I feel like Coach Jordan, man, the older guys, the veteran room, good job stepping up when Coach Hard is not available. I feel like Coach Jordan did a great job. People my first back or last year just had the extra meetings with him.

1:03:27I already had meetings with him. He's learning more, just taking away from him. I feel like he's been doing a great job since I got here. What do you think of the freshman that had come in? I think they've sold it up. I think they've sold it up. I think they've sold it. I like all of them. I feel like they all can grow definitely. I know what they're feeling because of how hard he's got here last summer, but I feel like they're all doing a great job. Did you have to remind some of those guys, just because we've been here a longer does it work too much further ahead than you guys? Yeah, well, yeah, kind of. But I'm not really considering myself like a young guy anymore since I've been here throughout the summer and the season. I kind of just trying to prepare myself to be a bit almost. We're not really a younger guy, but I do try to be like a better and type of person to the young guys. When did that start? When did you stop feeling like you've been here? I'd say really just just the upcoming of the spring and the winter. I feel like I learned a lot as being in season last year with the team.

1:04:32I would have a big role and just take a bigger step with the team and also, so I don't want to just get some of myself going to work. Saturday's practice seems like the competition between the receivers and the foreigners is so classy and watch us how talented those sides are. What would have you thought of that quarterback room and the way that they battle against you guys to crack this game? Yeah, yeah. It's always like that. The IAid is there. I mean, it's their local. It's always like that. Even when people aren't here to see, we go back and forth at almost every day in the package. It's not new to us. It's just a standard. The IAid was on set. That's it. It was the best basketball career I've ever seen. I'd probably say I'd just be here to take me. They both did after. Do you feel like the return game is a place you need to make them back this year? Yeah, I do feel that way. I have did a little bit of a return with some of our returners throughout the spring. I feel like I could have attacked it. How much is it you forward to being in the shoot? Saturday being part of the offense? Really for the first time as a buck? Yeah, I'm excited. Just to actually get the step foot and actually like get rolling in the suit. It'll be a great feeling. I'm pretty excited for it.

1:05:40What did he do? He showed up early. He stayed late. He did his job as hard as he would possibly do it. Discipline, routine, consistency, all those things. Nothing extra ordinary just doing great at the things that we ask you in the direction of that. How do you feel like you get balanced? What Jaylen does well? What do you think does well? A great question. Yeah, that's a great question. Guys have strengths, guys have things that weaknesses or things that they need to get better at. We have meetings leading up for spring ball. We say, hey, here's your individual plan to get better. Something that I think that Matt brings to the table. Matt Patricia brings to the table is throughout his career. He has highlighted what guys do really, really well just comatically. We're able to put guys into different packages and get them on the field to be able to do what they do. We're excited about those guys. That's our job. Those guys earn the right to be on the field. I expect them to do that. That's our job to make ways for them to be on the field. With Jordan playing a lot of safety last year, did that kind of create a blueprint for you guys and how you can do more pre-safety stuff?

1:06:40Jordan was great from a flexibility standpoint. We were able to go from traditional nickel type looks to three high safety looks. We had a lot of fun and a lot to put Caleb in different spots. That was critical for us, especially down the stretch. We saw him play off for a number of weeks. They didn't really know exactly how it was going to be deployed. That flexibility is critically important to us. Flexibility going forwards is going to be great. Kudos are towards taking that step to start against Nebraska high safety. The different things that he was able to do last year was huge. He's going to help with the NFL. Who are the pieces that we have? How do we highlight those and how do we deploy them? If flexibility will always be important. I think it always helps anytime that whoever you are, whatever position they can do multiple things. If you're a linebacker and you can rush off the edge, you're in corner and you can bump to the inside and play slot corner and play high safety. I think those flexibility things are critical. More than just pinpointing a just that position has to be able to function that way. The flexibility across positions as a defensive back is part of coach Walton.

1:07:43Timmy philosophy is the defensive backs. They're not just a corner or just a middle or just a safety. Let's meet together. Let's train together to be able to groom these guys to be flexible in and out of packages. That helps your depth too. It may not be like who's the next best defensive back of the game. It may not just be the guy replacing a guy that got injured in that position. You may have to move pieces around and that flexibility helps us for sure. That's what makes it difficult for the defensive back of the game. For the defensive back of the game, it's not like you're a guy that's one of the best defensive back of the game. What do you want to see from the rest of the world? Competition. I want to see incredible competitiveness every single day. I want to see consistency from the guys. I want to see one of our guys to be consistently on the rise. It's not okay to do two days better than you're taking a step back. Every day, you need to be consistently on the rise. Those habits, your consistency and your competitive mentality. That's what I want to see. We'll coach them again with the right spot. I don't worry about that. I want to see that competitive mentality at home.

1:08:44That's what I've seen from the win of work out so far. This morning, it was a real one in here. What coach Mick has developed with coach day breaches will be pre-jump defense too. That competitive mentality I want to see from those guys. What about those two? Do you want to see the most competitive level of the game? I think consistency for any young player is the biggest thing. You see flashes of talent. But you want to be able to do that over and over and over and over again. I'm not saying that they have knocked it that way. I'm actually really pleased with where those guys are right now. But that's going to be the biggest thing is when you're playing in situational type things or packaging things like that. It's different than maybe you're out there for 60 snaps in a game. That's a different type of feeling. So the consistency of performance is important in those because you're putting a lot of different ever situations. That will be the biggest thing is responding to those pressure situations and being consistent in performance. You're playing here that means it goes to better suited than the role they've played.

1:09:46When you talk about roles, they're playing in the same spot. Our job is to put the best football players on the field. You know, Latins role was Latins role because that's what Latins did. K-Lems role was K-Lems role because that's what K-Lems did. So then you say, okay, we have some sergeants coming back. We have a lot of new pieces. So we say, okay, what do these guys do holistically well? And then let's highlight those things that put them in position to be successful. That's all our job as coaches. So put the guys in position to be successful. And we spent a lot of time as defense staff talking about that. Personnel conversations. And that's our job. The spring is to make sure that we're getting those pieces right. And that's what Jordan had such a great year. You guys last year. Who are some candidates to kind of replace in the audience? You called the nickel. You called the slot. I thought he's what we've called. The Lorenzo styles has done a bunch of awesome things at that position. When you look at the germane Matthews and what he's been able to do playing on the outside, but also the toughness he brings in the slot from that position. So there's a number of guys that have those traits.

1:10:46And it's a unique guy to be able to do that. You know, because you're not just a corner. You're a safety. So you're fighting a linebacker sometimes too. So that interchangeable piece has been really important. Jordan did an awesome job of that. And then we were able to even grow the packaging last year because of the things that he was able to do. Coach, they said about you at the National Championship celebration. Sure, it's things he's told you privately. But for him to say that at the championship, it's the same. You're one of the rising stars in the industry. You're one of the brightest young minds. And I had me make you feel really good. Just your take away from that. I know you're a humble guy. You probably don't even want me to ask you about that. No, no, you're going to ask anything. I think any time that you get recognized for your hard work and your contributions also. I appreciate Coach Day saying it. I've got an awesome relationship with Coach Day. I think the world of him. Yeah, I try to just be up behind the scenes operator. I don't mind the spotlight, but I try to just be behind the scenes operator and put the guys in position to be able to shine. But I appreciate of him and look forward to keeping contributing. And what are your thoughts so far on Coach Petrusions? We got chance of me to hit him for the first time very. Engaging personality. Just when you're fighting, obviously very decorated. Just what your thoughts on coach Petrusions? Yeah, first up, when Matt Petrusions walks in the room, the room speaks for itself.

1:11:50But first up, a great, great guy. A great guy. Just humble, gracious. I've been very impressed with the person. And I had no previous relationship with Matt. Also, it was awesome to be able to build that relationship over the last couple of weeks. The football intelligence is incredible. The IQ period is incredible. This is a very, very, very smart guy. What he's been able to do with defenses and the wealth of knowledge and experience that he brings. He's operated as a GM and offensive coordinator, defense coordinator, head coach. But it's pretty amazing when you start talking about the things that he's been able to do throughout his career. So I have a ton of respect anyways, surface level. But then to be able to know the man, I can't say enough positive things, but he's going to be an awesome, awesome, awesome partner. Last night for me, what do you think of the Bible? Yeah. Has he shown you the Bible? He said he has it here. Oh, it's huge. It's stacked up. It's stacked up. You know, I've studied those New England teams from afar for many years.

1:12:50Actually, I've used some of the things that they've done with their safety and teach tapes throughout the years. So I, especially when I was a younger coach on the profession I used, NFL examples to teach guys earlier on my time at Duke. And I still carry those through with teach tapes and things. So I've studied that defense from afar. Obviously, but I don't even know that. And then you have him to be able to be here and then take you through the history of why I got to that. His background with the Bible, checking all those things is pretty awesome. But yeah, the amount of detail is amazing. Like it's not a fluke why they've had the success. You know, when you say, okay, let's talk about a coverage, the amount of detail and the coverage where you take all this high level information. You boil it down to very simple so the player can go play functionally. Like that's, it's a true talent that he has. The freshman that you have here, what do you want to be a boss fan of him so far ahead? Before you've been to field, what kind of things do you look for for his background to start the kind of technology that you know? Yeah, it's a great question.

1:13:50So we have the Fahim Kodian to show here right now. They've all been awesome. Like first off, who they are as people has been fantastic. Like those guys show up early for everything. They're on point, body weight, you know, every little marker that we look for, academically, how they're performing. All that has been great. You know, Fahim came in with a ready-made college body that's, you know, documented through recruiting. Work's excited about him. He's learning the ways to be a buckeye, what it means to be a buckeye, you know, found the other guys. And it's been, it's been awesome. Kodian's been great. Kodian's a worker. Kodian's a worker. He's been fantastic to have every single day. He's made big time improvements. Really excited about, you know, him as well. And then Deshaun is coming off that injury that he had, you know, his high school season. And he's been great as well. And he's been really good. So like all that have been diligent, workers bought in, you know, they're hungry and they want to get better. You know, so work's excited about all those guys. Is the show going to be able to practice and spring practices?

1:14:50I'm hoping he'll be limited some in spring ball. So we'll be small with him, but he's progressing very well. Very well. With Fahim obviously, you know, come from. It's a college-ready body. A really good conference of it. Oh, yeah. What stood out about him? What's he got in the system? Yeah, he brings a physicality to his game. You know, he's been able to see him roll down the box, blitz, do some of the things that we've been able to do with safety. He's about to bring a physicality and mentality with him, you know. And then obviously when you get here, then it's a totally different level, right? So everybody's as good as you, you know. And, but now I think very highly of him and have high expectations for him. When it comes to K with them. I'm curious. He's obviously on top of his ability. How is that allowed you to relax your character to experiment with some of the things you could do? It feels like he could succeed in a lot of different positions and feel how much does that allow you to say, okay, we can do this, we can do that. And move some things around you by the other way. Yeah, it definitely allows you to, and as a coach, you would say, you have to be able to do that.

1:15:50Right. So you've got essentially a very, very unique chess piece that can, like how many guys can really play the deep part or feel the shallow part of the blitz? You know, do the different things that we ask him to do at that level, right? Guys can move around and do it, but very few can do it to that level where he's elite at all of it. So it's keeping it simple enough to be able to go be functional with him and the pieces that are around him. But that's a huge part of, you know, you see our successes past year. A lot of that was put in killing the position to be successful. You know, that's, especially like as we, you know, say from the half point of the season towards the end, that was critical for us. So, yeah, I think it's a responsibility as a coach when you have a guy like this to make sure you're putting him in position. Believe in played a good bit as a freshman last year and obviously room state healthier a little bit too, but didn't get as much action, but still, you know, was first guy off the bench. What, what have you seen from him? Where is he at? He's developed. I've seen a big jump from Lee. You're going to see a different kind of guy when he takes the field to spring.

1:16:50So, he, uh, he, uh, he, uh, he's all mentality. It's all mentality. So, uh, physically, that's why you saw, you know, the flash, I think it was a true freshman. And, um, he's always had that piece right there, but the mentality, the toughness, the grit that he has. I mean, that showed a big time right now. So, I got big expectations for him. What does this spring look like for, for Taylor? Brian's talked about some of the guys who played a lot last year, made me a little skilled. He's been back, but he's defense and obviously second year in the system. What, what, what is his next thing? The things with like, for him? Yeah, I think leadership is the biggest thing right now. You know what I mean? So, when, um, he's always been a leader, um, but he's got even a bigger leadership role because you had a bunch of guys that had played a lot of snaps here at Austin, right? Where you don't have as many guys playing snaps. So, I think, you know, this, this offseason, he's been fantastic and transitioning that way it will work to the field now from a leadership standpoint to the critical for him. So, um, we'll be smart with, like Coach Day said, we'll be smart with how he managed reps and, you know, springs at time to build fundamentals, to build schematics, but really to also find out what guys can do.

1:17:52You know, and, uh, we know some of what he can do on a high level. We all do, right? So, again, continue to get him better, but allow him to be able to influence the other guys to be able to. Are there, I can make a little more, you know, the nickel spot. Who are some of the guys who were sort of like, we'll wrap it that spot. Yeah, um, Lorenzo styles, remained math years, and we've got some guys that, you know, have experience in there. And, um, yeah, we've got some good candidates to be able to go into that spot. Those are both of the guys that you'll be able to see operating in there. Thanks guys, appreciate you back. What, uh, they definitely study receivers or study new, how much do you study corners? Earlier in the week, uh, I was learning to press techniques. Um, like, Jalen Johnson, they really played the field that much. So I'm just plays the one side. So every corner is different. Jalen kind of played everywhere. So you gotta just get tendencies from each player and then figure out ways how you can tap, what's happening. See how much do you adjust your game week to week just based on who might be checking you?

1:18:52I mean, yeah, everybody's technique is different. Um, I still try to play my game. I've been a data that they've, they've covered me, that they've guarded me and, uh, kind of reacting to me. So, um, I try to adjust too much, which is to be prepared for anything that they may be able to do. How comforting is it to know that you guys can beat teams in different ways, like, two weeks ago with the past game? Yeah, after we've just cleared the run game. It's gotta be a good thing to know that you guys can kind of do what you need to do. Yeah, so that's the sign of a great offense. Um, the team's name, like you said, they might be picking up their run. I'm on my media and it's something you gotta pass the ball. And, you know, receivers have kind of make plays with the outsides and hope in the game. And you have a situation that lasts me when they kind of play a lot of cover-two, a lot of show defense. And kind of forcing you around the ball. And you ran it for about two hundred yards. So, I think the great off is this gonna do both. And, um, I think that's definitely really good for us. What did, like, when you see your young defensive line and your running backs kind of imposed their will and opposed the defensive? Really break their spirit off? Yeah, I mean, you get, you kind of get a sense, like some teams that they don't want to play no more. And it kind of just break down. I think it's one thing we pass the ball and, you know, all over the place to, uh, on a defense,

1:19:56when we actually run the ball and every single play, it gets exhausting. So, um, I'm sure it just breaks me down. You. How many people are kind of the, how many ups and downs? 100, 111, 20, 111? How many of you guys have moved on that? Yeah, I mean, it's tough. It's definitely tough. Um, you kind of want to have, you know, one of those games every game, but that's kind of not the reality of NFL. Like you said, you, in some games, you might as well run the ball for 20 yards. And, uh, kind of adjusted with the defense. It's kind of giving you. And, uh, at the end of the day, the win is the most important. Um, but the ups and downs kind of just have to stick to your process weekend and week out. Uh, the result's going to be what the result's going to be, but, uh, along your processes, uh, consistent, uh, week, that's missing. Well, this is a tight end play been like an eye opener for you, like, to see the things that Trey McGy does in the past one game and he's hurtling guys out there. Yeah, I mean, he's amazing, man. Trey is just super talented. Uh, has really great ball skills. Probably best things, like you said, with the ball on his hand. You're giving it just to go a line. I mean, tight ends can do that.

1:20:57So he's just really a special talent. Uh, great addition to this offense and just everything that we can do with him makes us feel very dangerous. How do you rate your goals and catch that? All right. Indeed. I was probably one of the best catches I've definitely seen. I'm seeing a make plenty of catches. That's probably the best one. I'll see you in the next one. I mean, I just try to get a catch at this point. You know, you get catches. Yeah, I mean, I think definitely out of the stat sheet kind of says one thing. Um, then just based on how the deep ones are playing. You got us and as a whole, but you just kind of get better each and every week. Um, take advantage of the opportunity to give them. You make it easier when it's a win. Yeah, definitely, definitely. When it's win, everything's good. The coverage has changed over the course of the game against you. What you see early in the games, that pretty much what you're going to get the rest of the game. I don't know. I'm not the defensive coach. I'm sure they have their game plans. I okay. Earlier on the game, we're going to try to take away this and the team's the work with stick with it.

1:21:58If it doesn't, it may adjust. We may not, but I'm not very sure with their thought process going into the games. Um, we just kind of see what they do. And like he said, we can do both people. One of the ball or passive law. I think that makes it very dangerous. A greedy player, man. Lathan, I'm sure you were asked this about a zillion times. I'm asking you to zillion and one. Just you personally. Does it feel like this, everything is kind of, I mean, this is just obviously the ultimate payoff and reward. But just for you personally going through some of the trials and tribulations you have here at Ohio State. What does this mean for you? I mean, without sounding too stupid by asking that kind of question. It means everything to me. I'm just so thankful. God gave me an opportunity after facing so much adversity to put me in this situation to be with my brothers, my team, my family members. And go out there and just play this game. I never take any game every meeting every practice for granted. I never take any for granted. I'm just so thankful. Did you ever get to a point where you just thought, I don't know if I can keep doing this or did that ever cross your mind?

1:22:59Never did. Never. I love football. I love football, man. Yeah, I love football. I thank God that he allows me to play this game every day. And, uh, yeah, I love football. What was it like after the game and, you know, there was talk that you guys all had a meeting. Things got supposedly heated. Is there any truth to that as far as like the players and the coaches you guys talk with Ryan Day and just, I mean, just kind of had a hashing out like, hey, let's come, let's come full circle on this whole thing. And this and what happens behind closed doors, stays behind closed doors, but whatever happened that me to help us with a national championship. So I want to change something for the way. Well, and there you go, right? So I mean, would you say in a stupid way, not that you guys obviously wanted to lose the game. But if you hadn't, do you think you would be sitting here where you're at? I don't know. I don't think about what is I think about that. How would how that ring feel in my hand? Like in our whole life and I've seen him being those leadership roles prior to this.

1:23:59I mean, he was stepping into it already last year, but we got eight guys in the defense leaves. And now, yes, to really just elevate that. But I've been seeing him. I knew he was going to mold in this for a while now. What makes sense? I think he just knows how to talk to different players. Different players require different approaches. Some players you can rip them a little bit. You might need to pull them to the side. Some guys might need, like they have some off-the-field things that like he just can give some insights. It just depends on the guy. Just being able to relate to each individual player and see the person connect. I hope that helps build trust with the mesolidic. Lorenzo, I was watching an interview with Nathan Ranson recently. He called you the most confident guy in the world. What do you think he meant by that? When I came here, I was seven on the depth. I was nowhere where I knew to be at. But I always knew you have to have that confidence to be able to play DB here at a high level. I think it's just going to show. I'm excited to go out here and ball this year.

1:25:01You have to be a little delusional. You have to be a little delusional coming into such a competitive place. I came here playing receiver. I want to show my boy Lay that really well. I wasn't delusional. So I'm going to put it all together this year. But I always just been a guy who's still talking trash. Even when I might not have it all together yet, just still trying to get better every day. As you worked your way up the depth start, you were doing a lot on special teams. The coaches have been making that a priority with lots of younger guys. What would your message be to some of those younger guys that are trying to find their way out on some teams? Yeah, on special teams. It's not a free play like that down. It's critical when it has a direct effect on winning and losing games. You see if we miss field goals or if we are punt games not right, we're not hitting 40 plus yards. Things like that has direct correlation on winning and losing football games. And really at the next level, I have some guys who've been there and we have a nickname. He played 10 years and he has a special team's guy. So just especially for me being a guy in my role in my situation, special teams is the most important.

1:26:01And I want it to be a tool to keep me in that NFL for a while. And I think the other guy should look at it as a tool to do the same thing at least and even get an opportunity to get on field. Give up to still do or be a part of the kick return unit as the return. Yeah, I'm trying to get back there and return some kicks for sure. But that's also me, the trust back there for me doing it. I want to be on all four units. I know like playing nickel at the next level. You see guys, you got to be on special teams and I hold a certain stand, why go play? So just being a set there will be this critical stuff in the team in the shirt. How much more comfortable do you feel now? I mean, I've been getting comfortable. I feel comfortable playing for a while now. I'm being honest with you guys in front of me who are good football players. But to me, it wasn't really really about that. It's continuing to get on the rise. I feel like my skillsets are getting better, my games getting better. And as long as I'm playing football, I still want to keep getting better. Give me your questions of your main message. Jermaine's a ball player. He's an energy giver. He's one of those guys who gets the team excited.

1:27:01He's talking a lot of trash. You know, he gets a full cell, he's everything like that. I think he's starting to really, I've been with him since he first came in. So I've been seeing him mature, growing to more of a leadership role. And really just he's continuing, he's a guy on the rise to getting better every single day. He's talking a lot to me. He's a talented football player. He's a talented football player. Yeah, I think he has a chance to have a great year this year. I think we've really made a move in thinking this great first time this great. Just culture. I want to give a shout to my guy Malik Hartford. But it's, I don't really think it was just a spring like in the, in the offseason. He was going real hard. We have this thing we've read our champion and he holds himself to a high standard. And he did that. And then it's just translating the field. I've been, that's who I've been watching a lot of my film with. I've been seeing him apply to the field and getting better every day. You guys must see, we see a late the grants of leave. We go, we go to the step that that's from Jermaine to me. Yeah. That's the evolution of football. I'm going to say this is a high state too. So I mean, I know that's a late thing was a great player.

1:28:02It don't, don't get me wrong, but they're kicking the ball off in a high state. And they're standards the standard. So we got to have players make place. Who? Who's making, you know, people back, whatever who's making some strides in that group. I was a lot of hard. I'll give you a chance to join the competition. But how would you describe it? Oh, yeah. I mean, we, we have a lot of guys. We're position flexibilities. A big thing here. So we put a bunch of different guys in that position. So I think Bryce West has been playing well. And I think Miles is coming along too. I think the biggest thing for all of us is just really getting them to understand the defense, getting them to know what they're doing. And they all have the skill set. So really, as that mental part develops, the physical is already there. So just put it all together and they have the chance to be really good players here. When you got like the devastation, you want to get five star. One of the top players in the country. Is there an initiation process with players anymore? I could think it's smart enough to mark them. I'm just doing that. But is there, do they see a guy that grew up in front of your eyes?

1:29:04Yeah, I mean, the stars, like, yeah, like, it might show like the skills that you have or like the God given abilities. But I want to say about Devon, is just the type of person he is. He's a real good guy. I think his ego is not crazy. Like he's a real, real humble guy. And then he's trying to get better every single day. The stars and all that really don't matter. There's not really initiation process. If you come here, you're freshmen. You got your black stripe on, you got to earn your way. And I think that's a getting a teammates trust and getting the trust in your coaches. How do you see him just like, like, in terms of like competitiveness, like putting himself so hard as her spring? Oh, yeah, he's competitive. But if I'm being honest, I don't really want to. I mean, he has the high piece of five star and all that. But like, Ohio State, like the standard to standard. So like everyone in our room is held to the standard. And I think he's getting there meeting that standard. Like he's getting better every single day. He has to continually get better. But the traits that you want and the thing about effort going hard, being a competitor, all those things that are not the technique,

1:30:07not the football part. He has that there. And I think when everything else comes along, it's a big, great player as well. How is that standard helped you personally going into your field here now? You're developed in the last couple of years. I mean, yeah, I was challenged. I mean, it's either you, there's Sink or Swim. I had guys in front of me. I had to make a choice. Like, don't want to continue to get better every single day or just be complacent. I could just sit in the air and be like, OK, like this is my situation. Or try to find a way. So I mean, that's it. I made a way out of the field. That was my goal. I had to go hard. I had to do certain things. I had to go on special teams. And those things I weren't doing before, necessarily in my pressure in the airplane, all those special teams are trying to learn Nickelback. I came here to play corner. I'm out here playing Nickelback. So it's Sink or Swim. So I think I did that. And now it's the time just to take it to another level and continue to. It's a thing to get better. You mentioned the first questions earlier. It said you have to be a little bit delusional. But is it important to have that confidence, even before maybe you have everything figured out? Have any position or values? I mean, clearly, I mean, I would never play it if I didn't. I would have never played it if I didn't. I came here to play corner.

1:31:08We have a bunch of guys here at corner. Now I'm trying to get at Nickel. We have a dude starting at Nickel. I want to play. I have to get it on the third down package. I have to go do this on special teams. I haven't done something on special teams. So you've got to be a little delusional. You've got to be a little delusional. All right, Lorenzo. Thank you. Thanks, man. You know, it's pretty good. One of those, like the draft process, and all of a season, there's a lot of people who have outside the building, and you can run it in the right time. A lot of people in the building, a lot of people in the building, where we have a right time. You can get motivated by that. You follow it. You can make it through. I don't, I've re-entered a little bit, but also sent down, like, they're not here. Of course, but I don't really care what they say. I know what I can do. It seemed like what I can do. So they trust the me right now, and I'm going to let them learn how hard they are. How hard they are, how easy they have to compartmentalize that and use that as fuel going forward, rather than kind of marinating it. I just keep recedes. Everybody knows that one person.

1:32:08I really care for them, but also that's all people. I love outside of this, but I keep doing me. Keep it better. Keep on it's nice. Who I can do. There, you've been outspoken about your support of Zameer, and obviously it's just a chance now to be the dog. What is it about him that you bought in so early? The reason why I bought him so early is, is, I was at a house, they always taught us, and I told them, I don't give it. And, I heard, I'm always going to get it, and I got big week, and I always want to prove people wrong. All my life, I want to keep doing that. I get bored just like you. Completed and like set you, you know, community here that you have come. 90 different. 90 different from my first year and my second year. It's a now like, now I'm a guy. I know I can play. I know I can go into one of the best special nights. Anybody else that we point play this year, and I know what to do. So, all I do now is actually meet my potential.

1:33:09Can't you do it? And help everybody else out in the team as well. You've practiced a lot against Malcolm, and he's really come into his own, what is it about Malcolm that's helped him make that next step there? Malcolm, he's quiet. He doesn't really say too much. He comes and work every day. The way he does, and he works hard. He doesn't put twice of anything. Yeah, he'll get mad over a couple of reps of us at the same time. I'm like, he has an entire open hole. He's, he don't really care what you're doing. Or anybody else, he's a very old thing for him. So, it's like, alright, just keep going. That's how everybody has something. How about Tyree's two together at the same time? He doesn't say the same, I said. Put him over there. No, he, he has definitely grown a lot from this like, first year here to now. Like he is. He's grown up a lot. We'll tell you guys a reimagining the offensive line on that, but you're out there right side. You know, arm there next to you on the other side too. And then drafting the guys on the line here.

1:34:10How exciting is that to be part of something that's kind of being, having that trust, but also being reinvented a little bit? That was very, you know, but me and Dylan know that they're going to keep replacing us, of course, but also the same time we got to keep going. We came to screw and think about what they did. All we got to do is stand by what, what came to do is do better in four times. So I still put a lot on the left side. How well are you going to work together? Working pretty well. You know, you say it's gross. We had like a, a little rookie moment a little bit, but you know, me and him has been great friends. You know, I train like my brother and I always will. You know, we talk every day about how it's going to get better and how it can be up to each other on the right side. So we can actually make that connection. You just play like writing in. Do you think of that? What do you think about the offensive line? When Steve, Chris was small, that's how you put it. Hey, guys, he goes first. I don't care about that. It's time for play.

1:35:10How they use them at Purdue. He showed some things on film that might complement what we already have in the room. And really make us a pretty whole unit. Did you say his skills are a receiver? Yeah, route running was certainly one of them. And I think, you know, he's got a lot of skills, and a perimeter blocking and, you know, in line, he's pretty good. But yeah, definitely as a receiver, he's pretty polished. Do you have what do you think made him like during the wise he's sort of a good coach? Yeah, I don't know. I mean, probably he had good coaches. And obviously, he's naturally, you know, a gifted athlete. He played a couple different sports in high school. He has a good feel for space and super athletic. But he's really impressed me with how dedicated he is. And he's always in my office, he was trying to get better. When you have the receivers you guys have, how do you get the guy like him involved in the passing game? As far as we saw, Kate and G do it to some level, but he's a guy who caught 50-some passes last year. Yeah, no, I think it makes it easier. I show these recruits all the time,

1:36:10because everyone says, oh, how is he just a receiver school? It's like Marvin Harrison was the best receiver in the country. You know, who number two is in targets and receptions and receiving hearts, it was Kate. Because, you know, you could go to the other schools and they don't have the receivers we do and you're going to get doubled every game. Good luck. I don't know many, you know, great plays if you're going to get bracketed. But no, you have the receivers at Coach Hartline and if you're spaying in here, we're going to have single coverage. And if my tight ends can't beat single coverage and you know, we're going to have issues about how I get another tight end we can. We've got a lot of tight ends who are pretty good receivers and excited to see them. And you mentioned that in line blocking. Yeah. I think if you take PFF grades, say what you will want that, they're not as high as other guys. How have you... For Max? For Max, okay. How... Do you see that part of his game? Because I think that's been the knock of people I've talked about. Yeah, I'm not sure. I mean, he checked that box when I watched the film. I'm not sure what the nice folks at PFF are watching. But, Will Kazmaryk didn't have many offers coming out. He's the best blocking title in the country. So, I don't know what his grade is.

1:37:10Lathan talked about it. At the Combine, he said that after the Purdue game, he came to you and said, hey, this guy is a supporter of Ogeda. What do you remember about that? Yeah, yeah. Lathan... Lathan's trying to take all the credit. Caleb Downs is also, you know, kind of sure, to me. I always have dinner with those two guys at DBs, really, the safeties on Friday nights. And I always, every week, just asking about the opposing tight ends. And they were super high on Max, Purdue week. And so, when he went to the portal, Lathan and Caleb, I was like, see, oh, that's a guy. So, how's that? Well, I'm watching. Obviously, you have to do your own evaluation. And it's just that obviously. How much do you value that opinion? Do you hear that from guys who actually have to go on the trip? No, hugely. Usually. And like, at this back-to-back, it's really because you had... I mean, I would have watched Max anyway. I'm not even playin' too much play that way. But like, the year before it was Sam Williams told me about WorldCasm.erick. So, no, if a guy knows our culture, and says, Coach G, he fits your room. Like, I gotta give Sam all the credit for finding cash. Is this the deepest tight end room that you have here? Yeah, it's gotta be. Just because, again, Dan, how many guys played in the Nadi?

1:38:12Then we had five. We had four or five tight ends. We had all six play in the playoffs. And four of those six were back. So, yeah, I mean, we've got tons of guys in that room that have started college football games. And not just against this world down the street. Like, big time moments and big time games. So, yeah, we're super deep. How valuable is that to know that you have, you know, four guys that have all played a lot of football in your tight end room? Usually, and I think the best part, Dan, is like, now I can challenge him even more. Like, we're past the stage of, okay, here's what it's gonna be like on Saturday. They've almost all the guys in that room have done it. You know, so now I can challenge him even more to go... You know, go be the best tight end room in the country. If we're at a higher state, like if you're not up to that challenge and go somewhere else. For guys like Bennett and Jalani, what do they have to do to earn even more life time this year? Yeah, I think everyone's different, right? Bennett's different than Jalani and they go, for those guys, and we consistently, I said it, you know, last week, like, so it's hard to put the best 11 on the field. It doesn't matter if they're all running back to receivers or tight ends. So, like, every day I tell them, every day you're competing against the other tight ends in the room. But we're competing against receivers and they're running back to,

1:39:12when we put two or three or four tight ends on the field, if that package is better than none, we're going to live in that. So, every day's a challenge. Really? It's a good thing. You got it. How much did the real victory pack do you think you were working for? You're all... Yeah, a lot. A lot. I was obviously all injured. I'm unfortunate, but he put in so much work. I was excited to see him have a full season. So, that was cut short. But, again, on the flip side, it's challenging to be more of a leader and to learn the offense, maybe, you know, taking a step back and help mentor a guy like Jalani. And I think there was a huge opportunity for a guy like Bennett and Jalani. Like, we watched it this morning in my meeting when we went down. We went tempo in the next play, G-block the C-Gap. Then we hit Quinchon, then the next play we were like 14 personnel with 13. And it was three tight ends, we had never done that. And we're on the road at Oregon and we punched it in and scored. It's just a great story to tell the guys. Like, when Cade went down against Georgia, we played the game with Ms. Rossi. It's like, all the guys got to be ready. I don't know when your numbers are going to be called.

1:40:12So, I know it was unfortunate, but such a good learning opportunity. What are you? Today is not about Jalani needing to be more consistent. Is that some of you have seen more of a venture far from playing? Yeah, I mean, he's off the charge night and day, more mature. Been really impressed with just his work ethic. He's in here every night getting extra work in. I'm challenged him to learn every position I'm off. And don't just be a Y, be a Y, be an H. Know what the C's got. And then also be a leader. He's not a young guy anymore. So, like, he's coaching Nathan LeBlanc and those guys in Max. You know, even harder. He was yelling at Max Claire, not yelling at. He was encouraging him to finish like, hey, you're obviously tight-end. Like, we're going to be going harder than everyone on the field. And I was like, you get it. That's awesome. He's been a leader. So, super impressed with him. For you. I know you're one to defer to your guys and credit them. But you are kind of instinctive. One part of this is the coaching you do. You build your way up through this program now. And get the title this off season. What's it been like to watch your journey here and kind of see where you are now?

1:41:13Yeah, and I appreciate that. You know, I'm not going to take the bait there. That's total rap poison. But no, I think every, every off season out of high state, we have such good players and we win championships. Everyone around here is going to get opportunities to go somewhere. And that's a credit to those guys. It's also like, it shows all the trust that Coach Day and Coach Arlan have for me. And I've been, those guys have been my boss for the last nine years. Whether it's Coach Day or Coach Hard. So, like, nothing's changed but a title. And just, you know, super blessed to be here with those two guys. And I love those guys. Keenan, you've been talking about the message with your guys about being overlooked. The East Town to groove, or the rankings and all that. This group is now veteran. Oh, yeah. One of the most productive titles in the country joined the room. Do you have to change? I know it's still going to be hardest working. No, no. Well, you're not going to take that away. Is it a different message now, a different mentality? It is. It is. Yeah, awesome. You hit the nail on the head. You cut open Ohio State Title and easy to be a bad dude. It was really freaking hard. And it's just gritty. It's all get out.

1:42:13But I'm not saying that we're going to be overlooked this year. At all. It's a 180. I told the guys we should set the tone for the offense for the team. You know, nationally, like, with toughness and effort and all that, but production. And we should be a driving force. Like, I challenge them all the time. Someone comes to practice. You want to see what the Ohio State Buck guy fight, culture is a brother. Just go watch the Titans. Don't watch it. Like, that's who the Buck guys are. So I challenge them. You know, lead from the front now. We don't need to be, you know, the least kind of the sleeper unit. No, no, like, set the tone. Did Max play the track quickly? I mean, you mentioned Will trying to lead and encourage through practice. He's been here two months now. Is he putting that in my face? No, he fits right in. And that's all thanks to something today. I'm like, all right. Yeah. No, he's been a high state title. Yeah, no, super proud of him. And the whole unit. Sorry, did I miss anybody else? Good. Good. Thank you guys. Thanks. Thank you guys. Thanks. It's the game the most from South of Morocco being here last year. It's the one that was my second. Yeah, I feel like, uh, Seth, he's definitely made a big impact on how I play the game now.

1:43:13I feel like I look at the, I look at like, first and second down different, because I feel like he's gave me a lot of information on how he sees the defenses, how they move and stuff like that. So I feel like Seth has become like a really good factor in my game and how I improved. For a guy like that to come in from Alabama, and maybe it's a big issue in himself to you guys to fit in. Like that. What do you, what insight you get into like what it means to be able to do? Yeah. In your group, even if you're not necessarily playing like you want to do the last year. I feel like, you know, Seth, when Seth came in, I knew Seth was a really good player at Alabama. He's playing those big games. So, you know, just learning on everything he's done and how he like takes the next step. And like how he gives his speeches is something I took note of. Josh, you guys obviously have quite a turning duplies there. I mean, to your line, you Carson, you're the Tegros, then how have you seen just the chemistry of you guys? You're all in the last couple of years. Yeah, I feel like everything is just like binding together. I feel like we're all just playing really good next to each other. And everything's been going really well. Do you feel just, you know, physically stronger when you're messing with the interior life that you're versus last play?

1:44:18Definitely. I feel like it's a really big thing. Really, it's something I've noticed over the years is that I've improved on. It's definitely my strength and coach makes definitely got us going. How do you notice it just in the beginning? I feel like just over like these past summer just getting stronger as I can. And then like you just see it over and over and over. You just like can stay in those reps. Those big time reps you can just like stay in. You can just kind of learn everything Seth and take a note of things like that. How does that manifest itself in what I'm before? Yeah, I feel like Seth, you know, what he's done, how he controls the offense, he makes the ID, gets everything going. Make sure he gets off and set. I feel like it's something I took no. What's the way going back home after the national championship? You know, it was felt so real. I mean, something I like you dream of as a kid, you know, as a kid you grow from Ohio. You always dream about playing for Ohio State. You know, it's just great that I'm able to be here and play in a national championship. It's like wrestling experience still helps you as you're changing the body.

1:45:21Oh, yeah, I feel like definitely. I feel like my mentality still is something like wrestling has definitely developed my mentality and my natural, like I go out there and try and like basically just choice all the time. Anyone I go against, I feel like I'm trying to show him. What's going on here in person though? Oh, yeah, Coach Bill on his death is a great person. He definitely gets his going. It's a really good offensive line coach. I'm going to get the odds from on the 20s to on. Parents from on the goal line. Thank you, Josh. Good. Thanks, Chris. Yeah. Yeah. Closer as a unit than I've ever seen before. I mean, I've been here for five years and I've been on a lot of offensive lines. I think this is the closest one we've had by far. And it just just because I think of the adversity that we've overcome to get to this point. And like Coach, they said, there's a story still to be written. That's what it's going to be about. It's impressed me a lot. He's a really good football player, as you can tell.

1:46:23It's going to boost him in the NFL when he gets there. And it's crazy to see how valuable he is to this team. Josh, do you ever have to see the positive things that have to be involved in the game? I'd say it feels like a dream. But at the same time, I think you just take it day by day. You can't look forward to the game. You have to have a good Tuesday practice, have a good Wednesday practice, have a good Thursday practice. And just make sure that those days are complete to where you can build up to that game and see how you're going to do in the game. When you are at this point in the season this far, what are the things you've worked on in practice? I think it's more just mental, just seeing what the defense is, what their scheme is. And then also just making sure that you have the right technique for those defenders and stuff like that.

1:47:28Josh, just talk to Josh and we've been going around in Dallas. Just talking about now, all you guys are perfect. It has been a grind. Can you give me any insight on what's kind of hurt in the point of this? Yeah, you'd say everything. I mean, we hit on a daily basis all the time. So you could have knee pain, ankle pain, you could have headaches, you have shoulder pains, you have hands, wrist, thumb, anything. But I think it just shows that we're willing to do whatever to play. What's driving? One of the national championships. That's what's driving me more than ever because it's a memory that'll last a lifetime if you go and do it. You're trying to open the path of the tier of the tier of support on the English players that work with you. You're one game, you're one game, but how do you send your pitches to the table?

1:48:29I think it's paid off. Playing for a national championship. If you were to tell me that when I was 10 years old, being a starting right tackle to how state, I'd say some cuss words at you and tell you to go away. Not that much, but yeah, it's Indiana. I don't know, I guess you could say I'm getting it out. I don't look at myself more than I'm just looking inside that huddle during the offense when we're calling a play. I'm like, I got to do it for these guys. Put so much in for him. Yeah. No, another name didn't recruit me when I was going out through high school, but I don't have any ill will against that.

1:49:29They didn't think I was a good enough football player, so I didn't know the day. No, I don't think that's any motivation. I don't look at it like that. Maybe that they recruited different guys and classes, but I don't look at it as any ill will. Every single person I've talked to this morning was like, oh my gosh, which is the plan. You know how it lasted? How in the world are you guys fighting the mental strength to rest and recover over and over again? What in this week then, like, one day, two days? Yeah, I think it's good. I think it just shows that it's like an NFL style season. I mean, it's crazy to think what we were in week was at 16 or 17. And it's just, I think it prepares you for the next level more than ever because it's basically, I wouldn't say it's NFL, but the playoffs and all that stuff, it's kind of coming together as the NFL. How are you guys trying to do that?

1:50:30Sleep. Sleep going in the trainer room, spend hours in there. Then go in the film room with an ice pack on or a stem or something like that and start watching film. I think it's like a 24-7 thing that you always got to keep your body right to make sure that you're ready to perform at the level you want to perform at. Was it really good set for bottom point where this often went to the level of coming back or re-tested, figured out another way to explain that they do it? Were you all pumped for that moment? That day was an O-shit for me. It was just to see where he went from the winter time to being the guy who wouldn't talk anything and being all American, ready to winter. It was a dark point in this season for us as a line, but I had confidence in Carson right away.

1:51:31I mean, he played 12 games and I thought he did find those 12 games, so I had complete another confidence in Carson. Did he see more of those World Mountdowns and Grubbs? Yeah, I think it just shows that sinners, guards, they just need time. I mean, you're not going to do amazing your first season unless you're Michael Jordan or something like that. But it shows that it's just a development and I mean, our slogan is developed here. Just to see him come from last season to this season, it's completely different. I was not just going to fight for the future, develop a lot of things that I don't understand. Yeah, Coach Fry is a great offence line coach. He knows what technique to use on every single play. He busses asks for us.

1:52:31Even though people give him hate all the time, I don't understand, I don't see why. He's a great human being. He just wants the best for us and I think that's what you see at him every single day is he's trying to push us to be the best for ourselves. I think the job is also a segment of those games. Yeah, I think they've done an unbelievable job. And it just shows the selflessness of all three of those guys because Tegros starting for the season, awesome as a left guard and then Luke jumps in there. But those guys haven't complained one bit of, oh, I want to get more playing time or something like that. They've been selfless and it's amazing to see. I've been a lot of people have gotten a lot of injections and said that Jack saw your call game and recruited and tried to get some of these guys. What do you remember about Jack's goal and trying to get everyone to come back and do this one more time? Yeah, I knew I was coming back. There was no recruiting for me. I was kind of on the outside of that because it was only my first year of playing or first year starting.

1:53:31But I just remember just of fire and Jack's eyes you see because Ohio native Ohio State guy, literally the buck guy I call him. And it's just the fire and his eyes of hey, we can do this. We can go to a national championship and play for it. We just have to have everybody come back and it was awesome to see. I was walking over to the Reddys just as you said. Five interceptors up for you. So is that important emphasis for you guys to show your defense to be more aggressive, maybe more turnovers, more big time plays than you guys in a year ago? Is that how this defense can get better for more? Yeah, we're going to make some big time plays this year. We didn't really have too many last year. We need more turnovers. That's really the point of emphasis, whether that's getting punchouts on the ball or making intercept. Is that a mentality thing or is that something that you guys have to just be aware of on each and every play? You maybe get more aggressive jumping around because of how much talent you guys have on you.

1:54:32How does that kind of play? It's a fun movie. We go out there with the most uproar confidence in the world. Any time we make a play, we're going to make a movie. I feel like we have to ask about Jeremiah. What have you noticed for Jeremiah and what's been watching him go against his kind of play? Yeah, he's just competing. But right now, just a super competitive, ultimate competitor. Quiet with the two, that's what makes it nice. He's quiet with the two, but everyone knows what type of time he's on. He's just really good. A lot of players are talking about me. Pretty quickly, you can tell that this guy was real. What did you kind of have that moment that you could tell? The Jeremiah was maybe ready to play right away. I knew when his first time he'd caught a ball, two fay balls in a hands-on. I just kind of knew he was the first one. Do you guys, you, Denzel, you got here, there was this expectation about me, what had happened a couple years before that.

1:55:34It seemed like the standard had slipped a little bit. And then, 2020, what happened, 2022 happened. And now, it looks like he's back to it. I kind of feel like he's going to do something. What does it mean to his back? It means everything that has backed us, means everything to the school. The people that came before us, Coach Walt. I mean, we literally had talks, like I remember in 2022 season, we're going to bring this thing back. We talked about it so many times, the revival of BIA, we've really talked about this before. It happened last year, so we just, seeing it happen in fruition is crazy. But we kind of knew it was going to come back to the standard and what those guys left behind. Is it making these guys like a comeback here? Yeah, right now, like I actually talked to him. Yeah, first of all, finally got our respect a little bit. And we can walk around here with some respect.

1:56:36But we still have to go out next year, prove, or this year, prove that we are the best. And that's where we're up to the challenge for a certain amount. And you have more guys that share more coaches who can help out, like someone analyst, like, do a great job. How those guys helped you, right? Oh, yeah. First off, because Duart, the thing he's doing, all of a sudden, is a remarkable job, just recruiting those guys. And he's always with us. And there are a lot of him, 5 a.m. And he's saying, because my 100, he's in there 5 a.m. And it's my 100, he got it, I was with him. Background in the interference, so he's given us tips because he played it. And he's been able to lead him, so now he's talking to me what he's learned, making me a whole better player. Like in the 5 a.m. server during practice, is there anything all around him? Yeah, just going to get into the right track. Thank you all. He's definitely incredibly beneficial. What do you fill the current? I know, in the last season, you might have been able to play.

1:57:36Yeah, no, I was not ready to go last year. I tried practicing, tried coming back. And it was not good. But yeah, unfortunately, the year wasn't going great. And it just was unnecessary risk for, I mean, my foot could have had some real issues if I came back too early. So yeah, it's been a great offseason. My foot's feeling great. Toes good, hamstrings good. I mean, there was a list of things last year, my hand. So all those things are good. I got surgery on my finger, so that's feeling good. Yeah, it's nice to be feeling better going into year nine than you have since maybe five, six years ago. Which I've said, I've been feeling great the last couple of years. I'm telling you, it's a real deal this time. But obviously, anything can happen. I just feel, it's fun feeling really confident in your body and being able to perform.

1:58:39So I could just go out during practice and, you know, go balls to the wall and do everything that I feel like I need to to be able to prepare. It's fun. My brother, whoever I train with, my trainer taught back home. I think they'd be really proud of how I've been working this offseason. It's just exciting. How did you say pointing was the end result of the green Bay game? You kind of, you can see it. I'm just pointing for it. Yeah, it was a bit of a build up, a little bit of an overreaction. But, you know, it's just tough. It comes sometimes like that. And I just felt, felt really defeated coming back at a broken hand. I'm like, oh, yeah, I get to play boom for a series of foot pops that I'd have to get surgery and all these thoughts flooded through my head. I broke down a bit and yeah, it just hurts. You know, you're losing, you're getting injured. You felt like you prepared really well in the offseason.

1:59:39And then the year before you had growing surgery. So, you know, a lot of things build up. Yeah, you don't get a break if you're injured. Everybody wants to go on. Fans are very nice. But, no, I just, I'm grateful that I feel this way. I'm still, still a nice, you ripe 28. So, not too old yet, but yeah, I'm just excited. I can't remember what the original question was at this point. You can do this, you can do this. You can do this. Something about my body. That close you and Giff were, how frustrating was it that you couldn't, you know, sooner than for one of those last three games? It was frustrating, but I mean, Giff was, had my back the whole way. I think for Giff, for any, for the whole team, just to show what it means to me, it would have been important for me to be out there, but I literally could.

2:00:40And I tried to practice injured my foot worse, the very first play I was in in practice. So, no chance that was happening unless I wanted to throw my next season away as well. But, no, I'm just, I'm proud of him for what he did with the team, how he handled it. And I need to call him back, actually, sorry, Giff. Yeah, I'm happy he gets to stay close by with the, with the Rams and just proud of all we accomplished here together over the years. And, and we'll be close for the rest of the lives. What was the, the footage? Yeah, this guy does say a foot strange. I, yeah, I sprained one area of my foot, then when I tried to return, I sprained another area, was able to avoid getting surgery, which is kind of the main goal. But yeah, it was, it was tough. So, when it comes to the addition of blood debris, what have you felt like, can he's kind of brought to the room and could bring on fuel?

2:01:40Yeah, it's, when I heard we got my brother's, some, I don't know, maybe my brother told me I'm like, really, we just kept blood, like, let's know, let's know small pickup. He's a, seriously, elite past rusher, has had some trouble with injuries as well. So, I understand how that is, but not only him as a player, but as a personality, I heard Kaleel just saying, he's, he's a fun guy, he's a funny guy, and, and to have that in the room, another vet, is always a great addition. But I'm just excited to have him and Tully, and to be able to rotate like that, and not drop off at all, and we come off the field is, is huge. And now, Tully's going into a second here, just, what do you, what do you, what are, what are some of the maturity areas you've seen from him? You know, I'm going to say not much, and that's a compliment, because he was already mature in those areas. I mean, he's on it. Everything playbook wise, always doing his job, working hard, just refining his technique and past rush.

2:02:44I mean, we don't have pads on right now, so the real work will, will begin, you know, in six weeks now. So, but yeah, I love Tully, I love Tim since the first day, he's, he's walked in the facility, and I know he's just going to continue to get better. Would you think of the addition of joealt? Yeah, I'm going to need to beat him up a little bit in camp, so he's, so he's ready, but no, I, I think anything to protect our number 10 is, is a good, good investment. So, he seems like a real solid dude, haven't talked to him too much. Great build seems like he has good hands, good feet, strong. We'll see, we'll see in a few weeks when I lay a helmet in his chin, how he holds up, but I'll take it easy on him. There he is. Roshan's a beast. Did you know Coach Armon before he came here, and if you did, just what were those first couple conversations like?

2:03:45Yeah, probably of cross pass with him, maybe, maybe not actually. I think what was it, his first year when I was a junior, so we kicked his ass as usual. Did it, did you, right? No, no, they just want a championship side, say they probably have the bragging rights right now. I'm like the guy talking about his old high school. Oh, I remember playing with him. We used to kick, no, good no. The rivalries dad, I was just saying this morning, you know, nine years and kind of forget about that. I'm not a great alumni, sorry. Sorry Coach, but no, that's great. That's what's great about the NFL is you just have guys from all backgrounds. You can hate their guts one year, and then you come on the same team and your brothers, and you're all working towards one goal together. So our first talk together was great. I just sat down with him when I opened his office and chopped it up about life mainly, and his opportunity here and how much it means to him.

2:04:50And yeah, I think he's a special guy. I think he's the way he conducts. So he's an interesting cat for sure, and I'm still still feeling him out. But one thing you can't deny is that he loves football and his main goal is to win football games. And that's what we need. You see him working out with you guys and pushing his lives and doing all this stuff, just how interesting is that to see him so interactive? Yeah, I mean, he was a great player himself, and I think he's always been built like that. Lack of a better term, but yeah, he's part of the guy's, you know, he's not this guy outside looking in. I mean, he voiced that to me is that his favorite part of all of it is being with the guys and the connections he makes. So yeah, to see a guy like that come in and brace it all and kind of be part of it himself is important. Are you at initial crashes of Gojim and during the defensive scheme?

2:05:51Yeah, it's funny to go from old gift to this little young guy who's my age. I wouldn't want to get thrown into a room with me and Khalilatos' age, but no, he's been great. I love messing with him a little bit. We little sarcasm back and forth, but no, he's great. He's very talks very fast and I don't, as you know, so sometimes I get to be like, slow down coach, come on. But, you know, he's great. I'm excited, you know, to get closer as the year goes on. And I think he has a lot of passion for the position and all he wants to do is learn and help us to improve. So I'm excited about him and I mean, I do miss gift. Obviously it was a long time with him, but I am excited to have a new face and kind of have that challenge for me. Did you work much with Jesse's dad since I know you coach Longbecker's emission?

2:06:54Wait, did you ask about Jesse? Did you ask about Dylan? I asked. Okay, you asked about Jesse. Oh my god, I was talking about freaking Dylan the whole time. You guys were so confused? Sorry, I thought I was, I thought you mentioned Coach Roney. No, Coach Mentor has been great as well. Yeah, both been great. Sorry. Run that back. No, he's been good. Yeah, very knowledgeable guy. Same thing, I'm excited to get to know him more as the year goes on. Have you worked, have you worked much during the last season of the Wreckman? Yeah, no, I have not, I don't know if I've said one word to him, but more words to come down the road. Like you said, you've been years since 2016, just what are some of this stuff? What's up with you? Just went on a ramble about the wrong guy for 15 minutes.

2:07:57You're welcome, you're welcome. What? It's a rough idea. Yeah, look the heck, say that. That's literally not the first time I've ever seen that. Yeah, I figured out. What's something that you worked on during the off season, something to improve your game or is your path in that you can? Usually my answer is pretty consistent that I just continue to try to prepare myself physically. Whether that's my sprint work or agility work in my lifting. But yeah, just to get everything feeling great, I let out with those injuries. So I had to kind of ramp it up with my finger and foot and all those things. But now I'm full speed out there and I'm just going to continue to do what I know will prepare me for the season. I know I'm going to get plenty of technique work and position work when I'm out here.

2:08:58So for now, I'm going to spend these five weeks really getting prepared in my body. Those workouts competitive again. Another year of competitive events with you and Nate working on that stuff? Yeah, yeah, it's usually too hot out there for much competition. We're just trying to survive. But yeah, it's always, it's a silent competition between each other. Be like peaking, it's like, what was his time? No, yeah, it's always, you can never have an off day when you're out there. And he's warming up like a, like a freaking robot every day out there. So there's no off days. Have you, you and him talked about, I mean, I mean, this also you were having a contract and you guys had to talk about it. Yeah, I mean, it's, it's a conversation. Not a, not really a serious conversation, but something that's come up before. But yeah, I mean, it would be cool. It would be cool at some point.

2:10:02I always thought of myself being somebody that will play here and retire here, which I think not many people do on one team and I think would be a cool thing to accomplish. But you never know. I'm not worried about this here first. You guys are just kind of working on food story. So you guys have like the lowest or second most food cafeteria and then a felt the age of a last year. Better move to the facility. Like if you, you talk a lot about food and how eating sometimes is the fun. And you have to say, yeah, I mean, looking forward to the food upgrades and all of you thought about it and all. Yeah, no, it's Wolfgang Puck or whatever is the, is the word. Yeah, it's great. I've been working with my chef for seven years now. So she's been great. So I've never really had to worry about that too much. But yeah, my weights good. I've been eating a lot. So season. So that's good. But yeah, I'm excited to maybe be able to. Sorry, Christina, but maybe I won't need a chef next year.

2:11:06I'll have my, I'll have my Wolfgang Puck food and that'll be good. So yeah, I'm excited about the move, found a new spot, excited to kind of learn the area and all that, even though I won't ever leave my house. Is it really not the lack of the facility just a dish of chef was good? I mean, I'll eat here sometimes, you know, it's may not be the best set up, but they'll prepare you food that's, that's plenty good. I'm a man, air-cactor, shout out. No, they work harder than literally anybody in the entire facility. So they may not have the best means back there, but they, they freaking work the butts off and that surveys not cool, man. I'm fair. I mean, you started at Charger Park and, you know, now here in the office complex, the last six, seven years ago. Yeah, what do you think it'll be like moving into this break, teaming, shooting?

2:12:08Oh, it's great. I just drove by there the other day. Harbott said, what did he say in the meeting? He was like, yeah, he's like, this place is beautiful. He's like, it might not help, but it certainly won't hurt. So we're going to have everything we need there. It's going to be fun getting lost on my way to meetings again, having to learn my way around. But yeah, I'm excited. Got got the house figured out. Move is going to be fun. Never is, but it'll be cool once we're all settled in. It's too especially during training camp that, you know, you can just walk from the locker room to the field instead of busing. Yeah, two miles. Yeah. Well, we were doing that last year, I believe, out here. Or no, we were at Jack Amick God. But yeah, I haven't seen the place. I hear the fields are unbelievable. Yeah, it's always nice to have everything in one area, but Jack Hamids done me well over the years.

2:13:12You want to have a tour with Black Bay Area? You go click on the top right there. Yeah, yes. If I could, I'd wish I could still have a plane. With a million different places in the skins and, you know, that's fun for you. It's not about me, you know, it's about players and it's about your own situation. What you're working on is getting a 4-and-1 attitude that we have a longer job. It looked like Gabriel compared to the first game. Like, you just do the sitting in the pocket much longer, and you have to change the picture, frankly. You change the picture, but it's not. I've got it from the moment I'm watching you have a phone with a finger in your hand.

2:14:15I've got a finger on my neck, but I see it. You know, we know how to stay. Oh, it's a good thing. You know, it's got a skill. Sometimes it's a heavy weight, so you know, like it's a power punch. Yeah, it's still a power punch. It's a power punch. Really, you've run up to that. We'll get about the extra. I'm talking to you a lot of times. I'm talking to you. You know, I'm talking to you. That's what I'm asking for. I'm only over there. I'm on the ground. I'm on the ground. Now we're down. All right. I'm going to start against the gun.

2:15:15You know, they've been there all the time. My opponent, please. Yeah, I'll look like you. I don't talk about it. I don't play much. You try to keep your eyes on me. I'm trying to fix this. I'll stick it to play. I'm going to play with it. That's my job. I just have to make sure that you're ready. I'm preparing for the game. You're resting. I'm trying to touch it. I'm trying to get it. I'm trying to get it. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't have a round front, really. I mean, because that's not my job. I'm always trying to stay in my step ahead.

2:16:17I'm going to have fun. Yeah, we're better. Yeah, we better get fired. Yeah, we better get fired. You can retire. I want to play. I want to play. I want to play. I want to play. My front comes from just considering. I don't have a bow. I don't have a bow. And my kids don't enjoy. I want to be in five minutes. I'm kind of sitting back. There you go. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Respect to you for having me, but I'm sure you know what, do they want to do it from the wide range of the next hour? Well, I, you know, I think we are all playing system time,

2:17:17and I feel like we're going to take control of the game for a year. I have two high-pitched sessions for the centuries. That's all music, that's all information, and I'm going to do the end. I don't want to be that guy, just because I want to show my creative side. You know, we end up giving some money, so I'm giving that money out of the situation. What's your opinion about it? I don't know. I expect that to perform at a high level. I think it's a good thing to play in my heart. I want to see the sun rise, the wind rise, the wind rise, the wind rise, the lights are the color and the wind rise, the wind rise, the wind rise, the change, the wind rise. Who's in the Steelers now? I was at a high site for the last match of championship actually, and then, yeah, so it's been until last year, and I'm the first season in the year. You're very consistent last year.

2:18:19I mean, you always want to keep it higher and further, and the best location you can, so, yeah, just like any other pun, a higher further. That's pretty good. Yeah, for sure. I mean, we've got coach making all the guys in the weight room. It's impossible when we want to get stronger and better, so, yeah, I'm looking forward to seeing what I can do this season. How's Nick coming? Yeah, he's doing really well as well. He's a great punner. So, I was just having him around. Good to have another Australian. I was going to say, okay, it's a good, good guy. Yeah, there's a lot of conversations that we have that a lot of guys are like, I just don't know what's happening right now. Which is pretty funny. And good to talk to you about the Australian sports team, so, yeah, he's a good fellow. You're awesome, the whole. Yes. It's hard to get that. That's it. It's a race. Yeah, obviously it looks easier than it probably is. It's a lot of pressure and the difference between a good hold and a bad hold is one inch. And then, you know, turning the laces, hopefully I don't do that too much. John's pretty good with these laces, so, just about finding the spot and getting a tilt right.

2:19:21So, I mean, I'd like to think I'd do a pretty good job. You could ask Jaden. But yeah, it's sort of a very refined skill. Once you get good at it, not too bad. Maybe a bit of mistakes. The States have maybe just started two years. Yeah. There's a lot of cold for different suspects, but we're very exposed in Australia to American culture. So, sort of, you were to expect a little bit. We get all your TV shows, we were sport. You know, sports teams, there are ESPNs over there. So, it wasn't too bad. And I've been lucky that I should travel over to America a bit before I moved here. So, I sort of knew what to expect. What are some of the bigger cultural injuries we have? Just the way people speak to each other, like joking around with each other. The showing here can be pretty dry sometimes. And even though I go home and see my mate, so I'll say something that sort of doesn't seem like a joke, but it is. So, you're going to get used to that a little bit. Yeah, it's the biggest ones, I suppose. It's a little more sarcasm than Australia's saying. Yeah, a little bit more sarcasm.

2:20:22And the way we speak to each other is, like, the words we use for different things. I mean, I was just an example last time. I was talking about gardening with Ronald and I was talking about using a whipers in the box, which is a weed wacker. And like, just little things like that. You guys have no idea what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. But yeah, this is like a bunch of little words, I'd say, that, you know, I think, in order, that I don't realise that he's actually Australian, I have to go back on it. Yeah, the guys are starting to learn that. I hear that. One of the big things, it's selective for the one. So, you can't just sort of walk in, you have to try out. But most of the guys go up, playing Australian football, which the primary way to pass the ball is by planting it, essentially. It's a little bit different. But then we have a whole bunch of coaches that actually played a football. And the Nathan Chapman played a few games at Greenbad. So he knows what to expect, he knows how to pick on. He still goes out and boots on his old age, 45s.

2:21:25No, he, so yeah, and then they sort of, they teach exactly what to expect. They don't give you any false hope really. They say, you're going to go there, this is exactly what it's going to be like. So it's sort of like a one, two, three, years simulation of what it's going to be like over here. So guys, they're ready to go, we have a come. Two culture. It depends. It depends how good you are, how a lot of your mindset as well. So it's very, it's, you know, it's a unique off season. We might get two weeks, two weeks break and then we're into winter and then springing and summer and then falling and season. So yeah. Two culture questions. One, have you ever had a veg and Mike sandwich? Yeah, yeah. And two, I heard no real Australian with drink, fluster, spirit. I've had my first foster in Nashville about two months ago. And? It's, it's alright. Yeah, it's fine. I won't be rushing back to it, but it's, it's easy. And, and, and, and graduate. I love Veggie Martin. It's awesome. Yeah, I, I miss it a lot. I actually brought it over to Jarlos from Los Alamos in Australia. So yeah, I love my Veggie Martin, which is? Have you tried to share it with anybody other than Nick?

2:22:26I've tried, yeah, I mean, Nick, Nick doesn't mind it. I tried with our one of our kids, Casey Magger, who's pretty upset when he tasted it. Do you get some pretty good reactions out of the guys? But, yeah, if you, if you, you know, four to one ratio with butter on some toast, it's pretty nice. What's the biggest similarity between Australia and the Netherlands? To be honest, the foods, the food seem like, I mean, we, we're very multi-cultural country. It's in America. I suppose we probably have more Asian influence, whereas America has more retaining influence. That's probably the biggest food difference, but I mean, yeah, we have a whole bunch of Italian. We're from in Melbourne has one of the biggest Greek populations outside of Greece. I think it's the biggest outside of Greece. Yeah, I mean. You could go either. You'd be, you'd be in the city, you'd be all right. Do you have to watch everywhere you step? No, it's not that guy. Just every now and then you're sort of look up and there might be a spot. There was something like the size of your pet. Sometimes, I mean, there's a lot of daddy long legs, you know, his little ones with the big legs, but like you'll all be in six. So they're not sat around in corners.

2:23:26But, um, it's not too bad. Joe, you got class. Thank you very much. Thank you, Joe. You saved 10 plays a game. You saved 150 plays, you know, which is a lot of play. So I know everything was set up by him from the jump for the long season. Then that was fine. Yes, yes, yeah. Yes. Yeah, that's different. You know, I mean, you look at the last three games that we faced. Really, the offenses were different to what Notre Dame does well.

2:24:29So we have to make that adjustment because they'll be hard to handle. Right so coach, we're just talking with JTT how disciplines and the headbrushers have to be knowing that Ryzen is somebody to expect the most third down in the country. You want to be aggressive with that to make sure that they keep them in the pocket as well. Yeah, I mean, you say, you know, past rush lanes or everything and, you know, caging him because he, he is exceptional at making those plays. But, um, you know, you also can execute a past, past rush, unless you execute a past rush move. So it's like you can't get a hit unless you swing the bat. So it's really going to be a constant balance and knowing that he can make those plays. Everybody has to be aware of it. All right, thanks. Thank you.

2:25:31Well, we always talk about limiting explosive plays, you know, guys know that they know that we talk about. We talk about, you know, all the standard things that defenses do. But, um, I think it's, I think the expectation is important, you know, that from the jump, you know, I talked to them about chasing perfection, even though it's not possible, you know, that we have the talent to do that. And we have to expect that from ourselves, that we're going to be as close to perfect as we can.

2:26:31Yeah, and I think, um, you have veterans and guys who've been in the system and we spend a lot of time together and, you know, they, they start to understand how I think. Which is really important, you know, when you know what the guy, the guy who's calling the defense is why he's calling it and how it works. You know, because every call has strengths, but every call, every defense has weaknesses. So they just start to understand that the longer we're, longer we're around each other. Yeah, I mean, you, you can, um, tweak things week to week in the game plan and, uh, they pick it up seamlessly, you know, where, at other times you have to be careful.

2:27:53But when you have a veteran group that understands the system, it works well. Thank you. Yeah, that's been a constant, uh, pursuit of, of perfection. You know, I want, I, and up to me to put them in the right call, get them in the right places and, you know, when they make good plays that's on them, you know, and they know when they, if something goes wrong, it's on me. So I think it's that continually, you know, investing in them and trusting, trusting them and let them go play.

2:28:59And then they grew up on the, on the mean streets of North Philly. That's why I came. Yeah, it was raised by a Philly cop. So yeah, you know, there's an intensity that goes about that. Um, you spend time around them and you, and you know, it's my job to be hard, hard on them in practice. You know, to be detailed and on top of my game and have all the answers and drive them and motivate them, you know, because on game day, that's not the time, that's the time for them to play. But, uh, that's my job during the week. My, my job during the week is to be the bad cop and let all the other guys be the good cop. Thank you. I mean, that's a ton of additional pressure. Yeah. I mean, that's a, that's a guy who can beat you with his feet or his arm and that changes everything about the game.

2:30:02I mean, it's, it's a big deal. You know, uh, Riley, he, he, he's really established his own mark in his own place because of us, not his athletic skill, but his toughness. I mean, he's really, really a tough minded person and player. Yeah, I think it did. I think it really did. You know, um, the sooner you can get back to playing the sooner, um, you know, you can write a new script. You know, so I think that was, that was a good thing for us.

2:31:13Definitely. It was, hey, feel bad for a little bit. And then we got to get back to work, you know, and anytime you can get back to work, it helps you, uh, get over those things. You know, you're expected to win every game. But if it does happen, that's the job as coaches is we, we have to find a way to get some benefit out of it. You know, and I, and I feel like we did, I feel like we did that.

2:32:31I like the adjuster. That's why I named him the adjuster because he adjusts. Yes. Yeah, I think it, um, it allows all the things you talked about in terms of disguise. It gives coverage relief to the other guys. Um, I think he sees things, you know, even better from that position. You know, and so the results speak for themselves too. That's all theory until you get out there and do it. Yeah, from the time we recruited him to the, you know, yeah, I always knew that he could do that. And it was just a matter of getting to it as the best thing for the entire defense.

2:33:57It's really, really, really, really, really, really, really hard to get us hard. I mean, we put a lot of time into it and, um, you know, thought we put our best foot forward. Um, but that's why you don't overreact in those situations that, you know, give him his respect for his decision and his family and say, hey, if you ever need us, we're here because those things come around. Absolutely, absolutely. Yeah, we're, you know, still using a lot of Oklahoma State film when we were trying to recruit him and another year gave us the opportunity to put more stuff on tape to show him. Yeah, he's a very serious student, you know, so, um, it's almost like if he sees something when you're teaching, he's not going to say it right then, you know, he's one of those guys that'll come to you after class and, you know, like a, and then bring it up.

2:35:22You know, but he, he's very serious about the flow of teaching and, and, you know, not interrupting, but he picks up on it. He picks up on everything. You have to be on your toes. Yeah, I think what you said would coach day and chip did was we experienced the benefits of that, right, because of less plays, you know, and shortening game. But defensively, you also said it. You really don't have a choice in the matter. You know, you get, it's, it's whatever the other team throws at you. You got to react to it.

2:36:32No, not me. I mean, we have that's coach day sets up the entire program to have all the nutrition people and the sports science and all that to do that. I don't treat it differently. Our job is defensive, you got one job, stop him. It's it. And then do it again the next series. Yeah, I mean, there's luck involved. There's preparation. There's strength staff, nutrition, sports science, all that is a big deal. That's why we have great people who do it. And, and then you got to be fortunate. Yeah, I think it really started at Duke, be honest with you and it evolved. And you know, where Duke and you got great kids and maybe you're not quite as talented as your opponent sometimes.

2:37:52You got to find ways to win. You know, so it allows you to be more creative and then get to Oklahoma state and what you do at Duke doesn't work because the big 12 is different. You know, or was it the time, right? I mean, trying to score every play. So then you have to adapt to that. And then you get to a state and, you know, you have the best players in the country. And that's an that's an adaption to right because you know, things that maybe you had to do in the past. You don't have to do anymore. So you look for different ways to get an edge. It's been like, you know, a few minutes. You're like, it's consistent. You know, work, work and good kids, you know, put in the work, have the answers and then have good kids who want to be coached and listen. You know, it's really a big deal.

2:39:14Work, same answer, it's work. Right? I mean, it's just you you're working. But you have to study yourself. I don't think it's a big deal. You have to take accountability when something doesn't work. You know, you got to study all the ways that teams have beat you and have answers. But really, it's just a lot of study, a lot of time alone, a lot of work. I really try to take myself out of the equation. My job is to put the players in the right position to win and be successful and to serve the head coach. So yeah, I mean, I would be thrilled for our players and for our head coach and realizing that Ohio State's a tough place. And you're right, we have had our ups and downs.

2:40:29So I would be thrilled for them to be able to come out on top. Well, this year, just discuss expectations. Just to help the team anyway that I can. Just like last year, whenever I came in trying to help the team. So this year, I'll be out there way more. So just just being ready for what comes, just being prepared. That's all. What I said, you've already played a lot. What did you want to get done this spring? What did you want to focus in? I just want to know my technique and I just the fundamentals of the games going back to square one, making sure my foundations right so when we get to August and to Kip, it's time to go there. And so I want to get my foundation right, my technique right. And we also got a new defense of learning the scheme and getting the scheme done as well. I was going to say, what do you like about this new defense? So to speak. I really like this game. I just really can't get into too much, but I really like I I really like Patricia and I engaged with the guys and just this impact on us. I appreciate it. I see like that. I don't matter to me. I just want to be on the field wherever I met. I'm going to just give them all.

2:41:30How does that old, though? Maybe kind of accentuate what you do. I just give me a chance to be closer to the ball. I get to do more. She showed that I can do more of them. It's being outside. I can be inside as well. So it's just being closer to the ball and showing I got through different things. I just really coming on. It's coming to get better. It's taking me to get in better. You just getting back every day on all the young guys. I think they're all just they all coming home. I think we've received a lot of talent. It's definitely. I think we have a lot of talent for the country. I think we have a lot of talent for the country. I thought we was the last year as well. I think it really just nothing changes. We be I wait. Be IA for a reason. So I think whoever's in the room, we just got to keep up keep that. What was the most about normal part? The Texas game was a good game. I like that. I like how we put that game out. Obviously the national champion. You just win. The clock hit triple zero. You just feel like a champion.

2:42:31So I had a national champion. But the Texas game is probably my favorite game. I just that experience. That's quite a one-bond thing. It feels like my junior high school. Where my senior high school. I'm a state champion to my junior. And I just I just remember to fill in just one. And when it's so bad again, you can't be to be coming up short. So I think you just stand on the guys and just stand on myself to do everything we can. And just go back to back. It's going to be very hard. And we know that. So I think you just got to support. What is it all about? The champion. You know, obviously climbing up. Yeah. Just the bulls iron back. And I didn't really do much. I got to go be us. Be the buck. I swear. I think when we go out there and be us, there's just really won't be any problems. There was some talk from the leaders about taking down the couple of banners. And not wanting this year's team to think that they're champions. Kind of building back up in there. Why is it important to do that kind of not allow last year to a competition? Because most of the champion winning things like the freshman class, they wasn't on the team last year. They don't have a national championship.

2:43:31And most of the guys are like, I wasn't a starter last year. So I want to start. I want to be a big regional while we win the national championship. So I think most of the guys that we have on the team this year, we really wasn't champions. You didn't too much do anything. It was most of the seniors that gone. So I think it's just on our own. Because you just want something for our own. Which receivers are we not talking about enough that you're out there covering? Who should we be talking about more and why? I like. I like, I like, I like. Yeah, I've been saying a lot of my leg. I like my leg. I was asked to. You just smooth. Just very smooth. It's a good play. It's a great play. We all know that. It seems like every time we're out here, you're one of the guys. You're always celebrating plays. You're always bringing a lot of energy. How much do you do better than the part of who you are just bringing in me energy? I think I just, I think a lot of guys can feed off of my energy. So I just try to give my zone. I can and just encourage out of the other guys and encourage even some of the older guys that's here. And probably doesn't have as much experience on the field.

2:44:32So I think it's just giving people the confidence. I think confidence is the most important thing about this game. If your confidence is where it needs to be and you feel confident to do your job, it's going to go well. That's the one you got. I kind of got thrown out there to a fire as a freshman in some great moments. What do you think is it compares to you to be ready to play as such a freshman? It builds. I think just taking every day. Coach is just telling me, just always stay ready. I think just taking every day. It's just like, but you're going to be out there and just prepared that you never know when that play is going to come. And you know, like Texas game, I played the whole second half. You got to be ready for that. If you just sit in the center of the side, I'm going to think that you're not going to play anything that I'm not going to get in this and that. You get tough for your identity. That's when you just your mind start playing tricks. So I think just being prepared and standing ready at all times. You think about it? Yeah, but last question is. I think having this kind of handle and real as a freshman, I think he looks better than me, and I came in and experienced. So I think that was going to be a very good football player here. You just has to just come on with the little things, but that was going to be a great football player.

2:45:36I just did. I think I was a little more raw as a prospect. He's coming out. I think he's more put together. He's a big refrain. You know, I think he just, he has a little bit like, oh no, I explain it, but he just, I like it. I feel, I feel pretty confident. I feel like Coach Har has a lot of trust in me since I've been here. Like you said, patience, time. And I feel like we'll see what that can do. So it's come up to season. I feel like confidence for me, I feel like has builds up more way more than what I had. Three musicians I've been here. So it's just consistently, consistently making plays down the field, taking the time of the defense. So it goes down the line with the fastest way of the play. I feel like I've put hard lines, you know, putting on those mistakes. And being more cool, you feel like you were the first to do the last few years, you know, the cut down mistakes.

2:46:40Yeah, I feel like the playbook and the mistakes I've cut down obviously for me. I've been here a long time. And most of the guys that I've been here as long as I've met for years, so I feel like the mistakes are really, I don't think. When you did have no mistakes, how did you learn from them? I think it kind of process that kind of though. Just meetings every day with Coach Hart going through the playbook over and over and just working through that. To not make these mistakes. Jay, what are your questions that don't fail? Don't worry about it. It seems like it's getting a little bit more comfortable. Is it all right? You know, all the quarterbacks together will. All the colorbacks I haven't really seen. No difference. I like them all. How about a devil for you, since the names of our names? Devon, like I said, all the quarterbacks, I feel like they're all good. I go with all the quarterbacks every day throwing. So they're all pretty good in my eyes. Was it like that the other guy that got the last day? Yeah, he was the last guy that got the subject. Nice.

2:47:40No more things, Joey. Yeah. There's been an uptake in the intense practice. We've been in the event, Joey. I'm not a Joey. I'm a Joey. Yes, Joey. How do you feel about that too? I feel like it's been a lot of experience. I'm proud of that you're here. You know, it's been a lot of fun. How do you feel about that? The competitive is in practice with the DBs and receivers. I've been very high since I've been here, at least. It's a lot of good on good work, which is going to get us receivers and DBs to be better than the season. What do you think is the best trashed off-wear? Probably for a hundred. I'm going to be in the car now. Yeah. Yeah. IGB, IGB, Dermain, Benzo, those two cents a million. Yeah. That's surprising for Dermain to be the trash talkers. No, it's just certain guys. It's just who they are.

2:48:40Those three Dermain, IGB, Dermain, really have the trash talking. It's just good. I like it. Yeah. All right, appreciate your attention. I love it. That means they don't know what's coming out of the next. We got 12 personnel, we got 11 personnel. You get the two of us and the one of us and you've got to start it all. What have you made of the quarterbacks of the three of them? Not too much. I feel like they all come in here working. I feel like everybody's making their throws, making their passes, everybody's making their corrections. When did you take away the last season? I feel like I'm excited. I feel like I'm excited. I feel like I'm excited. Tell you the game. What did you take away from last season? How did you get the ball? When the next game, that was it. When the next game, go out there on Saturday, beat the man in front of you, and then came out with a national championship on the bench. The spring ball is about improving the essence of the visual when he worked on this.

2:49:41I'm holding on to everything, I'm trying to get my game. As well as I was playing spirit, I'm not trying to come up to feel it on. We hear about the leaders in the key roles, not just the leaders of the group, but the set of the team. You should get a step up who has started to step up and realize their place. I feel like we've had leaders from last year that came back. I feel like we got new guys that stepped up into their roles and their roles and around the team. That becoming leaders. Being a leader, you all always have to be vocal. You can have the same examples on the field. Or you can be vocal, or do both. It's not you, I agree. What is it like to say, we got a new one from last couple years, but we do that. I was happy for Gia, I see her, I hear Grin, I see her last year Grin, and getting an extra work. The ball is ball. We come out here and play ball. He's out here doing a pro day yesterday. I just see him ready to make some real money. What advice do you feel like you're a different player now going into this year? Maybe you were last year. I feel like every year I've just improved on my overall game.

2:50:42Blocking and catching consists of wires. People used that word, but I feel like I'm just overall better. I came in here ready to go. How much does it push you when you're in a room with guys like Max and Will and Bennett that you know you've got to be on your game if you're going to get on the field? Man, I feel like Arya is sharp, but Arya are on every day. You come in and work and they go push me every day to work. It's just like I'm a do-do. Probably going to ask this before, but this is... It's not a crowded room. You got Max first or what's your brand name? Max. I love Maul, honestly. Max, Max Claire, Max LeBlaugh, both of them. I love him. What's... You're flashed in the time you're... Is this the year worth at all coming to the other side? I feel like Arya was my year, but hey, you're going to see this year. I'm ready to come out here and put on a show for the Bug-I Nation. I feel like everybody on the field is ready to come put on a show. We're going to go back and back. You got to play quite a bit though last year, Tulane. What did you pick up from all of that, especially in a championship run?

2:51:43You know, and they were counting on you. Honestly, just be ready at any time, honestly. You can be thrown in at any time, just like I was. I probably had some rest while I was just thrown in. You got to get it done. Yeah. And if you don't get it done, they're going to find somebody who has to do it. No, wait. I think we asked you this every time we get it. Two times, it's a talk to you. We're going to definitely see what you've progressed as a tight end, you know, the all of that means. Honestly, I'm even a year old. Honestly, over the spring and some of this, I feel like I've told them I've body a lot. And I got stronger in the weight room. I've also got a little bit faster, so I can get in and out of breaks a little bit. And just the mined part of the game, the middle part of the game, if you got an even better end, I mean, how would you describe that? I say it again. The mined part of the game, you know, that. Well, I feel like it's a lot more fun. I say the tight ends, we come in here, five o'clock every other day to do a walkthrough, more film, which is more students in the game now.

2:52:43We're like that. Thanks, man. What's your score? You're in Bobo, it's like five. What do you remember about that block? I feel like it was just an exciting play. I was the last read on it, like the very last read on it. I don't go out, I came down with the catch, so we get the first down. I'm going to go in the second one. Thank you. High school a little bit when he was there at a Virginia Tech. And when he first came in, I remember going out spring workouts, and he kind of just gave the bow, like he's a great dude, like he really wanted to build connections with us. So it's been amazing. What's been the biggest adjustment you've had to make since coming in on that stage? The biggest adjustment I would have to say is just really buying in to the culture. Because we're a big culture program. We keep the culture, it no matter what's going on, we are going to be the same way. So just kind of buying in stuff like that.

2:53:44You got to go to a couple of those bowl games and kind of see what that experience was like. What did that kind of do for you to help prepare you to do it yourself? It was crazy because there's my first time actually watching games from the field. So I actually got to see steps. I got to see play called and I got to see coach Fry. I see coach knows guys up on the sideline and actually figure out the talk that he's talking about. For freshmen offensive lineman, patience is required. It's a development. As a guy who comes from high school where you're playing a lot, how do you kind of reset coming in as an offensive lineman? Maybe a year or two before you start to get real. You know, you kind of just want to learn from those guys that have been here because of like you said, it's kind of tough coming in and being a young guy and then going against different fronts you might never seen before and talking different knowledge that you might not talk before. But for me, it's been kind of a learning process, but I'm picking up on it. I get very great coaching every day.

2:54:44And older guys do a great job of communicating. So it's kind of been really easy. Nine different guys started last year. Like what does that mean for this room in terms of you guys doing that to be prepared for any. So how do you prepare for that? Just coming every day ready to work and coming with that mindset that we all need each other. It's not just one guy there's one guy that knows five guys out there. And those five guys that are going to be out there, they got to be able to trust their brother. And the guys that are on the side, we got to be out there churning on our brothers. And when our names are called or whatever names call, you got to be able to step up. Some more just that early on like right now for you trying to still your teammates can trust you. Just coming every day with the mindset that I'm here to work. Like I come in the building, I come in with Woody and they know that I'm here to work. They know that I'm not here to play around. They know that I'm coming in to meet and ask you questions. So I figure I was going on picking the older guys brain, staying out the practice,

2:55:47even getting at your work. You talked about this kind of scene improvement already. Where have you seen that the most in your games? I want to say knowing the game of football. That was the biggest improvement for me because coming out of high school is kind of a lot more simpler. Coming to the field plays like a higher state, you got to know the start. And coach gives us a good look. I'm talking about Coach Perr, the defensive quarter, he gives great looks. Different looks. Is that through field work that you start to see that the most kind of the knowledge of the game? Not necessarily the whole field. I want to say the field work on the field. You can work on the field work on the board but you can't take it to the field. None of that really matters. Thank you. Our team would have four coaches in the room with us. Have you been strictly at center? You playing some guard right now?

2:56:48Do you feel like there's a shift to center potentially down the road? I don't know. I don't know yet. Just left guard, that's what I've been taking around right now. As a freshman offensive lineman, this is pretty important. It's just because of the developmental part of that position. How do you, as a guy who was playing on high school, how do you develop that patient's knowledge? It might be a year or two before you're out of use. I take it as like, you know, you just got to keep just stacking days. Like you can't get down on yourself if you're not playing. Like you just got to keep developing. And like the guys we have in our room are awesome. Like all the, you know, uppercise, my glue, Josh, Austin, Austin, Austin, Carson, Taggart. And all those guys, like they're great dudes. So it's really awesome being able to learn from them, like watch them, get mental ribs at them every day, see what they're doing, and then just take that back and just use what they use. So I mean, it's definitely just like keep stacking days, just keep working, don't really pay attention about that.

2:57:50It's just work. It's really fun. The interior of the offensive lineman, I just have a lot of guys played a lot of football. There's a lot of important football. Who have you kind of leaned on? To try and learn various things. I learned from all of them. Definitely, I'd say Luke Montgomery, that's a guy, like I just, every practice, I'm just, when I'm not here, I'm just watching him take his reps. Like see what he's doing, when he has like a 2-I or a 3-1 from front of him, what footwork he takes, where he puts his hands and his head. So I definitely say Luke is a guy that I never watched, and clothes just try to see what he does. Is that one of the biggest transitions to make even the jump from high school to college on the offensive lineman? Just leave it the small thing. Yeah, the steps and the hand placement. Yeah, that's definitely a huge thing when I first got here was like there's different forward, pretty much every block you gotta take. So that's like I think it's the most detailed position on the field. That is like, you just need, everything needs to kind of be perfect in the block.

2:58:53That's how you're taking steps and placement. How do you feel about the problem? Oh, it's good. I'd say it's good. I mentioned that to Lars, is that a position you see yourself sticking with or is that just kind of where it's starting to be? I mean, I could see myself sticking out of the board. But I mean, I could play pretty much anywhere, obviously, in the interior. Yeah, but right now it's just been a little hard. So it's a bit of a time when I think of it. You've been in that stuff a lot. Jake, you had the opportunity to watch those bowl games first and kind of get that experience on what it's like to be part of a championship roster. What was kind of the biggest thing you took away from that whole couple of these experience? Yeah, I would say definitely like watching all those bowl games and the national team Egypt just watching the guys carry themselves. Like how they, like the preparation it took to get ready for that, just how they go about their days, like what they're doing when they're out here practicing, how they practice. So just, it was pretty much just like kind of just feeding off the moment with their doing kind of, I kind of got a glimpse to see like what it takes to kind of get to a stage like that.

3:00:00Just kind of act and stuff. Jake, thank you very much. So I haven't been on the field as much as I should. That's true. That is true. But it's not like I'm having these little, little dinky injuries and sitting out. It's something I can't control literally. So that's why I'm not bothered by it. Like, yeah, I am injury-pone. You can say that. You know, but I do think that the chargers are getting a guy that's going to be healthy from now on. You know, God will it and it's going to be great. And I do think that it's going to be a great however many years here. When you've been on the field, you've been highly productive. Yeah. 5.8 hours of very average for your career. Like, knowing that when you're out there, you're very productive. How much confidence does that give you that really all you need is an opportunity? All the confidence in the world. You know, the way I work. I want to say just from the numbers, but just the way I work, my work ethic, you know, and my relationship with Jesus is like, I have the most confidence when I step out there.

3:01:02Because I do know like, if he grants me the health, it's over with. I don't think I'll be, you know, I think it'll be a great year or whatever. A couple of years. However many years he grants me great health. You know, and I think just the work ethic, my prayer and all that stuff, that's what helps me have that confidence. With the numbers, we'll be there. And they might be higher after this year, you know, and it's crazy to think about it. Because I had six point yards per carry, you know, so we'll see. You're going to forward to the brunt behind this line that they put together? Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, I play with Bradley. I play with him, you know, I know Slater. I know all the guys, you know, and I'm excited. I think it's like I said earlier, it's a talented group. You know, we just got put together and win some games. That's why I came here for it. I wouldn't say a part of the recruitment, but like whenever I decided I was going to sign, it was great to have him in the room.

3:02:02Yeah, we're great. We have a great relationship. That's like my brother. I think it accomplished, it complimented each other very well. You know, he can do a lot of stuff too. I mean, a lot of people think he's just power power power, but I think he has some other parts of the game too, which it'll be great. Because I feel like I can do everything. And when we want to get tired, we can roll it in, we keep rolling, win some games. When you, the two of you get going, how do you think this is going to look? Or what will be that partnership that is back there? I know. That's a hard question. How do I think it'll look beautiful? You know, a lot of people call this a passive league, but I think you got to run the ball to win the Super Bowl. You know, if you look at the teams who win the Super Bowl, they can run the ball, they can control the clock. And so if we're both good, it'll look great. Beautiful. How do you describe the recruitment offense?

3:03:03I would describe it as, you know, a great offense. I think he gives a quarter, he's going to give the quarterback a lot of options. He's going to give the runner back a lot of options. He's going to give the receiver a lot of options, you know, and I think it's going to be great. He's often going to be amazing. One thing that we talked about, you know, is like why are you going to build something good for Russian offenses throughout your career? Whichever way you've been. And you said that one part of it is just, you got to call the police. You got to call it on the police. As we're running back, you know, how much confidence, how much excitement does it give you? Play all of it, that's going to stick with it and allow you any offense, fun, and see if you're ready to improve. It gives me a lot of excitement. You know, it's going to be, like I say, it's fun to play this offense. You know, and I think he does have some good things in the pass game too. But like you said, he sticks with the run and that's the identity. You want an offense that has an identity, right? You don't want to be looking everywhere else to find your identity.

3:04:03You want to have it. So I think his offense has that. And the guy he builds and puts in there, it complements that identity. So I think it's going to be great. You mentioned you're 100% now, so you mean full goal for training? That's the expectation. Look, I ain't going to answer any of the four, if it's up to me? Yes. Look, because I had this problem like two years, three years ago, I'm thinking I'm full goal. I think I'm ready to go. And then next year, you know, I'm on PUP. Hey, look, some stuff above my pay-gray, so. But I don't know. Hopefully I can start. I think I'm ready to start, you know, at the beginning of training camp. But that's not up to me as I've learned. How do you... How do you... How do you... I wouldn't say that. I think I've been in some great organizations, and I think this organization is a great organization. And the training staff is great. And so they just want what's best for me, you know.

3:05:04And they're taking care of me, which that's what you want in an organization. And so that's where that comes from. Which I appreciate it. Like, I really appreciate that. You know, because I'm a type of guy like I work really hard. So maybe sometimes I'm blind to, you know, the danger of something, you know. So I appreciate it, but like I said, if it's up to me, yeah, I'm out there. But never know. Well, any frustration for you during the heading into the agency, you know, dealing with rehab and not, you know, having a full season of tape or production to go out there. Was there any part of that where you were like, cat, wish, you know, had it with the public market with a different situation, you know. Nah. I like it. I like... How would I say this? I like it the hard way. But not... You know, I like it the hard way. I like it. I like trial and tribulations. So, I mean, the dice that I was given to Roll was I was coming off a killer.

3:06:09And that was the Lord's plan. So it was beauty in that. Like, I was comfortable. I was caught like there was multiple teams, you know, I wasn't... It wasn't like I didn't have any other team. But I was comfortable in sitting back and just enjoying the process, letting myself get fully healed. So whenever that team whoever I would sign with, who now is the Chargers, is going to get the best me, you know. And I think people all around the league know that like, okay, this guy, okay. It's a high risk, high reward type thing, right? Not even a high risk, a low risk because you... It's a business, right? So I got hurt last year. I don't know how much money he's been throwing that. But I think everyone around the league knows that whenever I am on the field, the numbers don't lie. And so they know that. And a lot of teams will be like, alright, here. You can... we give you this, but we want you to be healthy. So when I'm healthy, it's going to be great. The chance that I've been giving here, I'm so grateful and I know that's going to be...

3:07:13They won't regret it. Are you the type of person that likes to throw people wrong? Like a couple of things like a high risk, high reward, injury from... You know, like a person that really tries to throw people wrong. No. I hear it. I see it. It's pretty cool. Like, you'll never see me unless I'm just like in a bad mood. You'll never see me like, oh, like if I have a great game or a great year, like I have this wonderful year, I ain't going to go back and, you know, like, yeah, yeah, what happened? No, because I don't care. You're eventually see, like, I'm like, I'm a guy that's really good. So I ain't worry about that, but I'm proving myself right that I am one of the best in the league. Right? So forget all the naysayers and people will talk about me being injury prone, because whenever I have this great year, it's going to be forgotten, you know? Why give that energy? Talk of Justin and all our fellow chances.

3:08:15Yeah, I was, you know, we just with him, you know, he's a great guy. I mean, he was in my class. I remember seeing him on We Were at an award show, because I was a dope walker or a finalist. And I'm like, I've seen him play, but I didn't know he was that tall. Like, I didn't know he was like six, eight, so when I first saw him, this was years ago in college. And I'm like, damn, this is me tall. Like, it's cool though. Like, I never really got to, I ain't going to lie. I thought it would be kind of, you know, nerdy, but he's cool, though, very laid back. No offense to him. And in that edge, it's kind of, it's not like scary, but it's kind of scary. Is that something that you're getting better? Yeah, 100%. I think that's my, my sense, I think to acclimate to those kind of speed, speed rush of type guys as improved. And then, you know, you got KJ, which is more of a, you know, prototypical edge guy instead of like a speed guy. And so I mean, it's just, I'm getting a big mix of a lot of different guys.

3:09:16And I think it's helping me. It's easy. Luke was talking about how three or four of it's about to just happen. Absolutely, guys. I think it's an actual amount of time. How much is that? That's true. Still a lot of time. I think about this stuff for a second. I mean, it's really good. And then you know, like coach Johnson. Like they're all, they all know these different things about you. Like coach Johnson has talked to me about my hands, coach DeGees talked to me about my sick, coach Johnson's talked to me about like my pad. It's like when you, like, especially at one at once when it's just you going, you've got four different guys. See so many different things. And then you just get all this information back to them. You can just tweak different things to try and get better. So I mean, they helped out a lot of them. But you're like top level. You can sit and play some bright masters. But it's good. What's your kind of cover of two spots? I mean, I feel, I feel comfortable in both. I mean, I don't really think I have like a perfect. I'm just really trying to do whatever I can to do. There's obviously spots open.

3:10:17How are you approaching that competition? That's awesome. No, like I'm just trying to get better every single day. I think that in terms of, you know, roster depth, I think I'll say that a few minutes later. You know, right now, spring's the time of development. And I'm just trying to develop. So what are, what areas are you working to develop right now? I really use my hands. I like to lean a lot in my sets. You know, that gets me beat a lot. I don't strike as fast as I should. So I'm really working on my hands right now. In the Sala, you asked me to go play a big role. So you guys see my cheer. It's an iron-fuck-eye assault season. What does it mean to help him to line the offensive of the role? How much of you can see that role? It can come later to just take you on a 20-25. I think all the stuff I've got, you can look at him. And you're like, I need to beat him. You know, he's an outspoken leader. But even when he's not leading, hopefully, you can just, he's leading by his end.

3:11:20He's like, I'm not a checksist. Like, he's just, you look at him. I feel like he boosts everyone thinking that I need to be to that stand. How much is that motivate other guys? I think it really, especially, I don't know. I think they're getting interviewed down there. Especially like you run the guys. I mean, he's not like a screaming. But he'll like walk up. You mean it? I mean, I think he just, like, kind of elevates our own weight. I mean, that makes tasks. All righty. You know, it's going to take time. I'm going to continue to put the work in. And ultimately, you'll look back. You'll look up one day. And you'll be a lot farther along than when you started. How have you seen Jolani to go up on his roots up all the way? Yeah. Jolani is, he continues to grow and to grow and to grow. Like I mentioned, again, Jolani was another guy that not only tied in position, but tied in our Ohio State. I mean, playing at Ohio State in general, I mean, that's a, you know, it's a high standard.

3:12:20But then to play the position of tied in, it's not easy. I mean, I've seen Jolani take big strides on and off the field. I think, same with him. I think he's going to have to continue just to put those days in back to back to back. And same for him, he'll be able to look up one day and be excited for where he's at. He's very talented. He's very gifted. God has given him a lot of great abilities. And I think it's just his job to put him to the work, put in the work. And he'll look up one day and he'll be excited about where he's at. Yes. Yes. I was really from over camp. How much are you trying to push him along? Yeah. I think when his freshman year, I was doing that a whole lot more. His freshman year, I feel like every two seconds, every time I turn around, I'm trying to correct him and get him an alignment. But I mean, man, he's taking steps. He's taking steps in the right direction. And I'm proud to see his growth. Did you rule with him both years? Yes. His freshman year too. He's driving that question. No, he didn't drive me nuts, but. He's driving nuts?

3:13:20Nope. That's my guy. Gee, we'll however, because a lot of experience starting to tie down his dreams of Kansas State. When you're out there, do you feel that he's seasoning on the field and running with me? Like, when he's throwing a football, he's like, he notices where you're at all times. Yeah. I mean, not particularly. I feel like I trust that he's going to do his job. I feel like he knows his reads. He's going to go through his reads and he's going to get the ball. To who he's supposed to get it to, predicated on the play and the coverage that we're going against. And he's done amazing things in the field this entire, even going back to spring. He had a great summer and then to see the kind of player that he's really growing into, even this camp, has been great. And so I have to just trust and faith that he's going to put the ball exactly where it needs to be. All it's my job just to go finish the play. Did you go back and look to see how much? Like, when Will Howard transferred over, did you go out to check in on the Kansas State? See how much he did there on the play? No, I haven't. It was Ben's in it, right? Yeah, no, I haven't really checked it out. He was a great player. I know he's somewhere in the NFL right now. But, no, I'm focused right here, building camaraderie with him right here and putting it up, putting good things on tape.

3:14:22Will, first walked in, do you think he was a new tight end transfer? Yeah, he was big. I think he's lost like 20 pounds since he's been here. That dude, it's a big boy. Yeah. What is his presence? I mean, how does it show up out there? Yeah, he does a great job, man. I think that's, he's growing to be one of my great buddies, Subjoronny. He's growing to be one of my really, really good buddies. I'd say one thing with him, he doesn't really, really good job of, you know, the ability to turn it off and turn it back on. I think when we're off the field or having fun, you know, he's one of my closest friends. But then when we're on the field, he's locked in and he's, he's ready to roll and he's able to take the lead of offense. If you could tell, just line in the thermon, one thing, and we'll get him on the field more often this year, what would it be? I don't know, where do I start? Let's see. I don't just keep doing what you're doing, you're doing good things, man. Yeah, what is showing out about him? I guess in this camp. Yeah, I mean, I kind of, I kind of mentioned earlier, I'd say, you know, like I mentioned, God has given him, you know, so many great abilities. I'd say ultimately the ball is in his court to take full advantage of that and ultimately bring the best out of himself.

3:15:23I think that's one of our missions as a culture is to fight to be the best versions of ourself. So I think if he continues to do that, he's going to be excited about where he's at. What do you like about this run of game? Everything. I like the mindset behind it. Maybe not as much, you know, X's and O's is great, but I love the mindset that we have about our intentions running the ball. We're not just running the ball to be flashy, but we want to be downhill. We want to have smash, play smash, football, and just impose our will on teams. That's kind of our mindset going into playing games. That's our mindset going into practice, and ultimately we believe practicing that way is the how we're going to do it on the field. What's it like trying to do that against this defense? Oh, they bring it. The defense brings it every single day. It's a constant irony sharpening iron. Another matter who's in ones, two's guys are good. We guys are flying around, they're playing fast, they're playing violent, but we're often going to bring it. Did Chip Kelly, how did it become obvious to you that there was going to be a little bit of a new approach to the running game?

3:16:23Mindset, whatever you want to call it, was it a big meeting or was it just y'all got out there in practice and hey, things are different. You want to mean, David, how did it show up, I guess? I mean, I wouldn't say there was any catastrophic event. I think there's a mindset shift. Like we want to run the ball. We want to be the most physical, fast team in America. Running the football is pretty universal wherever you go. Every team is in a run counter. Everyone's going to run zone. Everyone's going to have, you know, it is what it is. The mindset going into it, how efficient are we going to do what we do? I'm very excited about the mindset that we have going in and running the ball. That we want to be tough, we want to be physical, and we want to impose our wills on the team that we play. You know, well, I don't know where in the chip speed, have you guys... I did not know that. You have to talk about that. I'm not just asking about that. I had no idea later that. That's hilarious. He is fast for a big guy. He is. Yeah, he moves very well. You're sitting here, what, blessed two weeks away from the start of what your last season ranked?

3:17:24Yeah. Do you feel like this is the year or maybe where you contribute even more? I mean, just what your mindset? Yeah, I'd say my mindset is to ultimately be the best, the absolute best teammate in version of myself that I could possibly be this year. I think if I put in my due diligence of studying, film, practicing hard, and laying everything out there, I have faith in the Lord that he's going to take care of everything else. I don't feel pressure of numbers or stats or things I need to put on tape. I just know that my absolute best, my greatest effort will be enough. And whatever happens from there, it's working for my good. I don't know if faith is driven you a lot in your game in general. How does that really help connect the team off-bentley, defensively, and come together for your finances? Yeah. I would say I've seen the Lord working a lot of ways on this team and just bringing guys closer. And it's good to have that common ground with different guys on the team. When things may be rocky on the field, or things may be rocky in the classroom or in the film room, whatever it may be,

3:18:28to have that common ground that we understand that the Lord is working the things that we're going through for our good and that we can just continue to keep our eyes on him in the midst of rocky times where we're in the valleys over on the mountain top, that we just keep our face thrown. All right. All right. Gee, back to you. Yeah. We're up in Christmas. Okay. What do I do? How you doing? Good. All good. I just got a little bit of energy here. You're doing great. Okay. She's the match. You got your line, you have to go line. Come on. Let's go, baby. Try your best to deal with. Slow down. Eric, that's your favorite piece. Go ahead. You're good? Sorry. You should just get your eyes open. Let me try again here. Okay. You're going through the torture. Let's make sure that we can carry it. Okay. All right. So when you're excited for for this season, you got walled last year under your belt. You know how things kind of go now. You feel so much more comfortable now it's pretty walled.

3:19:28Yeah. Yeah. I think, you know, going through a whole year obviously, you know, going as long as we did, you know, having a year under my belt. You know, just knowing how everything, you know, runs in the building. Knowing how practice runs, you know, the speed of the game. I think that's all really, you know, that felt me into, you know, better player. You know, just knowing how to handle everything. But it's really good. But I think, well, what's it like working with that Patricia? It's been good. He's a real guy, real, real good coach. You know, I've been really excited to learn from him and kind of, you know, because I've played a little bit. You know, he's a good job of, you know, kind of just, you know, taking a little bit out of time as we go, because you know, you know, everything's new and we're all learning. So it's been really good. So, yeah. How much were you talking to Kane as you got here and kind of going through that first year? Obviously, he's doing his own thing, but just what this is all about? Yeah. I think having him go through the whole process is,

3:20:30you know, his big thing, you know, kind of having, you know, him, in my corner, just still, you know, talk to him or call him. You know, whenever I need, you know, we still talk a lot and I ask him questions whenever. You know, so, you know, a lot for a Scott here, he was still here, you know, training and everything, but he had a fail. So, you know, it's been, you know, like, I happen whenever someone's sick of him. What's it like watching me and now in the NFL with the Texans? I've got to see you know, pretty well doing, and living out his dreams. Yeah, no, it's going to come. And a super happy forum, you know, he's down there and used to, you know, CJ and everything, I think he, you know, he really likes it. So, you know, I'm excited to see what he does this next coming year. You know, just how different your team are going to be in terms of, like, if you get a college student, get a couple of them, not in all this, like, just how different you feel. Not just the community to go through the community and this is the same thing. Yeah, I think you kind of realize that, you know, this is, you know, this is your life, you know, you got to, you know, come in here, go play single-highest day, playing with the best ever single day. You know, you got to put the time in, you know, you got to, you know,

3:21:32make sacrifices, you know, to, you know, what you want to get out of it in the end. You know, along the fight, you know, school just, you know, live on your own. It, you know, it's, it's good for you to teach us a lot. And, you know, as you get, it just makes you better overall. Do you graduate from here, what you do, that you have got like, Riley, he's the interviewer, and you know, you know, guys, you know, I'm going to pick that role now. But you have got to, you know, what kind of leaders and told you that you have to do off the A&G road for those guys on the issue. Yeah, I mean, just kind of, you know, just shown the way around this building, you know, just, you know, how, how we do it here at the high-stay, how we operate. You know, they've, you know, I think all three young guys coming in have done a great job. You know, they've, you know, great work ethic, you know, I think, you know, for me, you know, the offseason, it was more like, you know, like, you know, example, kind of thing, and springing a little bit of, you know, vocal leadership in there as well. But, you know, just kind of, for working with them and, you know, kind of showing them how, you know, build a guy's and how we do things in the room that's, you know, definitely carried on to that.

3:22:32Being a part of that championship round last year, I guess, what did you learn from that? What they went on, you guys went on. And, I guess, what do you learn about them? Like, what do you think? This is just a technical level. I would just say, you know, staying together, you know, our biggest thing was each week was just trying to keep that group together each week. You know, I think last year we had such a strong bond together, you know, with all the guys. I think that was really the motivation, you know, just staying together and, like, like a band of brothers. James has popped down the past. I think you have decided in our battle, you know, kind of made that too deep. But James has popped the past on the map. You're playing well, you're making plays, consistently, practice. You're going to play playing well. You think you're going to be able to do it. How much pressure do you set that approach to? You're not going to launch those guys in front of you. You're basically going to play it in a way you want them to do a mid-jif. Yeah. I mean, I think, you know, just starts with, you know, coming out to practice every day, you being able to put your head down, just making sure you're going hard on your school play.

3:23:32You know, what you're doing, you know, so you can build that trust. But I think, you know, just having the guys around, you know, like Sunny, R.V.L. Payton, you know, you know, you know, who's, you know, been in there, you know, playing in games, everything like that, you know, to lean on and ask some questions and stuff. So, so you're ready? Where you set that to? I'm like 227. What's the goal for working hard on how to build? It's still 225 right now, but I think it will come up to like 238. So, I think it will get a little more great in this virtual. I'm sure that, do you feel a sense of urgency in kind of that part of that 2D to provide depth or maybe more than that this season, how can you go into your team? Yeah, I mean, I think all right now, I'm kind of focused on just getting better someday. And what I think is kind of what it springs for is, you know, individually just, you know, continue to perfect your craft under some day before that security or any more scheme or whatever. But, uh, but yeah, I mean, I think that's, you know, definitely, you know, something in my hand, you know, obviously, you know, came here to play here.

3:24:33So, I think that's definitely a big thing. The post of the players are going to come and now he's got to trust that and they'll be there for us for sure. Coach Stins has been here for high sand loads over the many, many years. He's been with this program now. What sort of his message to your group right now or when you're turning to him, what is he saying as far as how to get through this? Yeah, so I think it's just really just coming and attacking every day as you would, regardless. And, you know, staying, staying even, even through hardship and attacking it, attacking it the same way every day. That's really all you can do and you just get a little better every day and see where it takes you. Based on the way things are already we're setting up, but then also the way, um, chase him. Simmons was calling the game on Saturday. It seemed like tight ends are going to be a big part of this as you guys are trying to pull out. And what role do you think you guys are going to have in trying to get this offense? Yeah, I think we, I think the role is always try to help the offense move the ball and, um,

3:25:34whether they were called upon to do that in the past game or the run game, we just got to step up and do our job at a high level and whatever you ask from us, we just got to do it at high level and let the offense go. You're some of the leaders on the offense. Some of the leaders, I would say Gus is a big leader. I mean, he's been doing it for a while and I, it's someone that everyone trust, um, is going to do his job at a high level. And, um, I think we have Hudson's a good leader too as well. Obviously, he's a quarterback, so he takes on that leadership role and, um, I think, we just have a good amount of leaders that, you know, throughout the offense. We were told George might be fairly close to getting back what we mean to get him back in the mix with the tight ends. Yeah, it'd be great. I mean, George is a great athlete, so having him out there can only help. Um, you know, we're really excited about him and what he can do on the field, so it'd be great. Actually, I was kind of afraid of like whether I'll find out another school, but I mean, here, like, the guys were really close knit or opposite each other and trying to be the best.

3:26:37What stood out about this interview? Really, like, just like how, um, like the knowledge that they have, like, they're really good into, like, helping me understand the system and, like, they're really good at points and everything, like, they're really good community, which is something that I have. It's how they need to be. To be the case is really important. It really is. Yeah. I mean, just how would you say to have that chemistry and how that can be? Yeah, I mean, the connection with chemistry is incredibly important because I mean, these are people playing with, working with them. You're going to see them every day, so we have to, at least, get along with them. Understand where, where their mind is at, especially in the day. You played both, right? What do you do? What do you do most of the time? Left time. You had one year there at Ryzen and that time, right? How'd you find that time to come? Um, I mean, I saw a play right and then by my junior, the one that said,

3:27:37as far as senior, like, moving to left. And, um, yeah, I mean, this is a pretty serious process. The coach is a rice, because they have some, there's really great, and helping me with the position. I don't even know if it's thought, it's significant with this challenge. There was some draft panelists that was surprised that you were turning pro. So I'm completely, I'm talking shockingly to the public, and the second I'll think of you as a big hit. Did you, did you, did you consider turning pro? Yeah, I mean, I was, I was on my back at the same time, I was, I was, I wanted to, took a tease of the dolphin, because he could be great, which is why I wanted to find a good school where I can have a good, a lot of issues in the health and mental, and I mean, the coach won't visit, like, I've, I've always known so it's all getting better and improving it, things that were big, discrepancies in my gig. Did you, obviously, do some dolphin jacks in Josh Hart, but a lot of guys back in the national championship, did you, or you in, or no Daniels, and just, you think about the depth of your life? I mean, it's an amazing thing. I mean, we're all pushing towards it to be great, you know, it's, it's competitive,

3:28:37which is, I mean, that's, that's the best place to get better. Did you seek out Ohio State, or they seek you out, or was it kind of a choice? No, I was definitely seeking out Ohio State. You did? Yeah, and how did you know you had a shot that even come here? I mean, Ethan, how does that work in the portal? Honestly, I, I really didn't, didn't know, was just kind of a, a hope thing. Yeah. I put a lot of prayer to it, to talk with my, my family, talk to with my, my agent, like, my old, my old coaches, the rice and, um, they really helped me through the process. I mean, without them, I don't know whether I'll be here right now. Um, yeah, but by the grace of God, I ended up here, the grace of God. Obviously, Justin Fry was the coach when you came here. And you got kind of transitioned like of him leaving in a pilot boat coming in. I'll say it was pretty seamless. I mean, both of them are, are kind of big coaches, they both know what they're talking about. They're really, um, tuned into the fine details. So, I mean, yeah, I wasn't worried at all. It wasn't, you know, it was just, this is usually a lot. What are the biggest things you've liked about playing for Coach Bowen so far?

3:29:37Um, he's a really good communicator. Um, like, we've met a lot and he's really good at, he's kind of like putting out the fine details and how you can prove your game and then when it comes to different skills and everything, just how to like fine-tune it during practicing everything. Will the team spend two more breaks in time? Well, um, I guess I'm trying to live by being the hardest working person in the field. So, I mean, I guess that's why I want to be like, I want to spend the most time watching films, spending the most time after practicing the game, getting extra work to and more out of the edge. And I feel like that's how I would describe myself. What do you try to do? Well, I mean, yeah, I mean, I can always be better at a lot of things, but, you know, just really like for working everything and that's the biggest thing. That's the biggest thing, you know, that's the biggest thing that's the biggest thing that's just working. You talk about us dropping that weight and breaking, you say, that's the problem.

3:30:37Is that been an adjustment playing that that way prepared for you? I feel I'm better removed. You feel I'm better, okay? Yeah. So, you didn't lose any strength at all? Yeah, nah, I'm still. Did you know you got to lose better? Yeah, nah, I knew and then, you know, talking to the dietitians and everything. How's your diet change? Well, I focus a lot more on getting the right, like, macros into my meals and, yeah, that was really the biggest thing. I mean, the biggest thing about losing weight is diet. But, it's like a lot more protein that's part of stuff like that. That's your base. Yeah, every meal. All right. So you can thank you for anything. Thank you. All right, y'all, we good there. All right, Greshan. You know, just to pick it back off that, we got to continue to be better. I don't personally for me. I don't like seeing the amount of yards on the board granted, you know, we did win. But, you know, I don't want to be the hindsight guy and forget about, you know, the run game. Still, I think an issue for us has an issue for me.

3:31:38We got to be better. I don't want to be one of the last teams in the league in a run game. So we're doing a good job. You know, are my sets right? The coaches are emphasizing it and eventually he's going to get going. Obviously, you never want to have a teammate be treated away like your own. But with Ernest Jones coming in, he's highly talented. There's a pretty good run defense kind of linebacker. What does that do for your defensive room? Terrier, Terrier, my book guy. But it does it. It does a... I can't really speak on it because I don't really know Jones that well. I don't know his game. I've heard from others that I know that plays for the Rams. I said he was good. But, as far as that, I don't know. Hopefully this move works out for the betterment. Obviously, I mean, we all want that too. But we'll see how it goes. I feel like a positive thing, obviously, when John Schneider and your coach are working to get an impact player and your team, and the NFC is kind of this wide open. It can be viewed as a positive or negative thing. It depends on what window you look through. What's that process like for you in terms of having to learn guys and their tenancies and communicate with new players that are coming in during the middle of the season?

3:32:45It's a big process. It's definitely not easy to rework your roster in the middle of the season. They're going to do what they're going to do regardless. And obviously, I respect that. I'm forward. I believe in their system and what they want to do. But, you know, it's an adjustment for all of us to learn a new guy and kind of reestablish a new relationship and reestablish a new voice that you're going to hear, making a call in the middle of the field, especially, you know, because he's the quarterback of the defense. So, it's just something you've got to get adjusted to, all of us. Playing at a different weight this season, has that been any sort of an adjustment for you? It has been. Just getting comfortable with my body again and figuring out, you know, my strengths and weaknesses and how to make sure all my weaknesses are just completely strengths. So, it's been a challenge in that aspect too. And I think I'm doing a good job at it so far. But, Miss Pathresh is going well. How much of it is guys playing off each other? Like, I'm thinking a boy is sack force from us, you know, two you collapse a pocket and then he's able to get it. Yeah, you're all in a... I would say last game was probably the best game. Surprisingly, it was all working together as good as we did.

3:33:46I think these past couple of games prior before that game, it's been a lot of us just... We just went in and just happened to be like that. This Atlantic game was a good game, a less communicating. The past game schemes, whether it was a game or just going to straight-worth, a straight rush and just reading off each other. And we had to get better at that. It's only been a couple games. We have a lot more football to play, to get better and build our relationship on that aspect. If you dropped in coverage as much as you thought you might have heard... Um, about on par. I've dropped a good amount of time so far this year. I've been talking about doing it now so... She'll put me on whoever, not put me on George Kittle. No. Have you seen Derek Hall grow in the last season this year, being around him? I mean, he's the same type of player. Honestly, only thing that's been different is his mindset and it's applying to the field and he has to continue. You and the Oregon Fahas League? I was. Jackson had a duck dirty on the week after. Did you have something that you had to do as well?

3:34:48I did do something that was a little more personal, but I didn't make that bet. Speaking of that, I don't know why we didn't run the ball in the last six sessions of the game. Talk to them boys down the Columbus and tell them to run the damn ball next time and just... Trust the kicker. Did you get the penalty, the intentional penalty late in the game? I don't know if that was on purpose. I think Mike brought that up to me and asked me, do you think it was on purpose or did they do it by accident? I don't know. I thought it was intentional. If it was intentional, it was a very serious move. I didn't... I wouldn't expect that. So I was actually, you know, big brainplayed by him. Did you think there should have been a second left? No. I'm being real. I don't want to be biased. No, we ran out of time. My boy, my boy, 18 was back there. It was too comfortable. But it was all good. He's going to learn. First game with Roy Robertson Harris. What were your impressions at him? I mean, it's like 6-8. It was crazy. He's super, super strong. I've been watching him. I've been seeing this game from afar from a while.

3:35:49I shouldn't have been watching it above. I've seen I saw him in Chicago. I saw him in Jacksonville. You know, he just watched a lot of football and a lot of tapes. So eventually he tried to see guys. He paid attention to who they are. So, you know, it's been a unique process of just bringing them in. And he's picked up a defense pretty well. Very powerful guy. Versus was well. And I think it's going to add in a lot of good plays to our defense here. So, you can do for the offensive lineman have arms that long. Shoot. Can nobody touch your chest? You in the ball game. You don't want big strong lineman grabbing you and trying to rough out you. Because they're already bigger than us in the first place, especially me. They like 6-8, 3-30. And I'm wherever my weight is. So, playing with extensions is very key for a D-Linda. Coach Hartline, working both with the Wires Sievers. And, you know, us and kind of just getting us all together on one page is really the main thing. Have you seen maybe Ryan Deicman a little bit more time on defense?

3:36:49Is it because of all the team on the outside and putting a little bit more of the trust in Ryan Hartline? It's kind of been bouncing around. You know, it's definitely the spring offense and defense. He's kind of all over the field. I've always seen Austin, he gets our empire in Buck guy this off season. He's one of the returning guys, but the big one on the outside. Obviously, I'm kind of grow as a leader and is he one of the main voices in that maybe not even just the offensive lineman, but on the offensive hold? Yeah, great leader. Not only by hopefully, but also as an example, he's a guy that, you know, when I maybe not have my best practice that I can go and watch film with him. So he's just great example for me. Talk about how much he meant to him to win the iron buck guy as a teammate. What does it mean to see someone win the iron buck guy? What is that person going to represent in the program? Yeah, I mean that he's not only a leader and on the field, but he's kind of just getting our group together when maybe it's a hard practice or hard lift.

3:37:58So I mean, that's definitely not something small here in Ohio State when an iron buck guy and all of us in the world and on the team would definitely agree that he's worthy of that iron buck guy status and he deserves that. A lot of coaches have talked about versatility and all kinds of things and that depends where we're all in here even in kind of playing other spring. Yes, just bouncing around, taking reps a little bit everywhere. I think it's kind of this time of the year is for just getting the feel for the game. Just messing in well with wherever you're at on the field. I think it's the main job. We talked to guys this time of year a lot about their first year in the world and everything. Do you think maybe it's going through it? Yeah, so I mean just having somebody to kind of always bounce questions to, you know, we were roommates and stuff like that.

3:38:59So just having somebody that you've kind of shared so many experiences with. You really could motivate each other and we really know like you kind of get us going more so than anybody else because you know, we've been playing this to each other for a while now. Have you worked with the Spanish Dream at this large league here for this season? Yeah, I mean it's just being close, ironing off the field. It's just really not only, you know, being together on the field, always kind of going over some plays in the film room to spread out a lot of time with each other. Thank you. The opportunity is good and you know, I'm going to come out here and compete. Like I said, I'm putting myself at the bottom so I'm working, I'm going to work every day like I'm at the bottom and I got to get to the top. What do you feel like it's going to take for you to get from the bottom to the top? You know, just discipline. They're big on discipline here and you know competitive and excellent.

3:39:59So it's just staying consistent every day, just doing the rights, having little to none mental errors that's going to give me on the field. You know, I do what I'm supposed to do, that's what give me on the field. How do you manage those expectations for people to think that you should be playing week one on the season? How do you manage people? You know, I don't really let it get to my head because I'm here. I got dudes in the room that are like, I just think they're three or three that started. I got to main, first in all, American, he's going to play this year too. So I can't let what people can say on the net get to me because anybody can say, oh, he's going to play this year. But you know, I actually got to prove it. So I just got to come out here and you know work and you know, in that spot. What's the most important thing you've learned so far in your three months here? Competing everyday. That's the biggest thing. Having to compete, you know, these guys appear. They take winning and losing to heart. So, you know, my first week up here when we did our competitions, you know, I was winning and then I actually got that first loss on my belt.

3:41:01And you know, it kind of opened my eyes like these guys take it to heart when they lose. They don't like it. So, you know, I kind of got that now where I don't like losing. You had the opportunity to be around the team for that CFP run. What did you learn from just those few weeks seeing this team make that run? You know, being real tight with your brothers, you know, they're real tight. You know, they push each other. You know, it's a real brotherhood. They don't let nobody down. They always got each other back. I mean, it's a new team now. So, you know, we got to build that chemistry with each other, you know, just get tight. And I feel like when I was there for that playoff running and I practiced when they were at the National Championship, you know, I just got to watch, you know, how guys are real locked in. They're close with each other. They're not letting nobody slack off. And, you know, I feel like we had the opportunity to do that with this team now. How did you handle Luke? You handled that first loss. And that first loss, you know, it kind of got to me. It was the IGB. You know, he, you know, he let me hear. So after that loss, I was like, nah, I can't let this happen anymore. Because it's like, now it's not high school where you used 17, 16 years old.

3:42:05And if you lose, you lose appearance. Nah, if you lose, the coach will see that. So, and they're going to see how you respond to it. So I feel like I had to, you know, open my eyes. I had to go and then lock them like, yeah, I can't let this happen anymore. So I got to grow up. And, you know, these guys are counting on me too. So it's really important that I don't lose. If you hadn't described yourself as a competitor, how would you do that? I'm a great competitor. You know, I like winning. Who doesn't like winning? So I mean, winning is, it's in my blood. You know, my parents taught me that at a young age, you know, going out there competing for anything that you want. And I feel like if you can go out there to compete for it, you know, it's yours. And if you can compete for it all the time, who's going to take it from you? So I mean, I'm a good competitor. I'm always going to go out there and try to take what's mine. If it's out there, then anybody can have it. And I'm going to be the one to get it. There's some role markers in your room, obviously. Are you a talker? What's your natural resources? Yeah, I mean, it could come out on me, you know. But I don't really, I really don't like games that are talking for this part. But, you know, if it gets there, it gets to that point where, yeah, I can bring it out. Because, you know, regardless, I'm not just going to let nobody just come out here and just, you know, kiss balls on me.

3:43:09So if I'm having a good day when I'm consistently getting TPUs, yeah, I'm going to talk. But, you know, being in that room, you kind of got to talk, you know, the Jermaine, you got IGB, you know, those, those real talkers in that room. So it kind of makes you want to bring it out. And, you know, when you bring that out, that just brings energy out of the whole defense. And when you got the whole defense clicking, you can see, you can see what happened. Is there anyone that's kind of, like, a competition in the atmosphere? It was during the winter. We were doing, you know, just stuff on the field. We were just, just having the time on the field. Just a lot of competitions. So I mean, he just kind of, it was a day where, you know, they had us going up against just the freshmen. And then they kind of threw us in there and fired against the other guys. So we had to, you know, we had to wake up and, you know, we all kind of lost. And it all kind of, like, we all kind of came to get that professional group like, what are we going to do about this? Because, you know, some of their kind of nice to just step up in those roads. Yeah, definitely, definitely, definitely, definitely my work on college moments, you know, you know, just, just showing that, you know, it's real now a metal high estate.

3:44:09I'm not in Houston, Texas and I'm wearing my school far from my family. You know, I got to wake up. I got to grow. I got to mature fast. And, you know, I just got to get ready for the next level. You've mentioned high school a couple of times. How did, you know, grow it out there in Texas playing at that level? How do you feel like that helped you prepare a real house date? Well, I still like to prepare good, you know, I feel like I went to a powerhouse in Texas. We obviously ran the Houston area. You know, we've been running the Houston area for a long time now. And I feel like, you know, we're a real college program. We live just like these guys who do the same lifts, you know, the level of ball I played, the highest level of ball in the Texas 6A. You know, we're going against guys like Dunkin' Bill, North Crowley, those top schools, you know, receiving the Coyote more I go against. And I want to get some three times in my career. So, I mean, those that really prepared me for this level, you know, coming in like, okay, this is not where it's a little school where they don't believe that I can come here and make an impact. I came from big schools, so they're counting on me to make an impact because, you know, I think, I mean, everybody would say Texas is one of the highest football players in the country.

3:45:12You know, they go to us Florida and they're probably Georgia. So, I mean, they're counting on me to be ready and that level of ball prepared me real, real well. How'd you do against D'Cory? You know, it was when lose, when lose. I went something, he lost something. So, I mean, it's just getting better, I'm sharp and higher. Because, you know, he's the top receiver, obviously, in our class. You know, I feel like he's going to have a good impact at Oregon. So, I mean, it's just what's going to happen next. Like a part of the scene of him again? Yeah, definitely, definitely. I plan on planning against him. We want to see him this year, hopefully we'll see him in the big ten championships. So, you know, I want to, I want to rematch him. Devin, you committed super early in the process six months after that. You shut things down when, quite frankly, someone of your caliber didn't have to do that. You could have, you've seen kids play the game a little bit longer than that. But you chose to not do that. It's kind of a lot getting here. Why? You know, because this is what I felt, this was home. You know, I didn't really feel like, you know, standing Texas was a good thing for me.

3:46:13I didn't feel like that was home for me. Up here, I just saw like it was home. You know, because of law and because they, you know, they're making it, you know, making me feel important up here. And then, you know, like you could ask, because how many times I came up here throughout my high school career? I came up here at 13 times. So, it got to the point where I was knowing the guys on the team. I had the numbers just like that. I'm not coming up here. You know, I don't got to always build the coaches. I can go chill with some of the guys on the team. So, it's just me, you know, knowing what I want to put in my college ball at, you know, knowing where I felt like it was home and then, you know, it was also my parents too. My mom being, you know, feeling safe that, you know, I'm up here, you know, I'm handling the business and not having to worry about me when she goes to sleep. Right. The potential, the concussion potential, that sort of thing. And just keep playing the way you do it. Yeah. I mean, for me, like I said, I've done a lot of research. I went and met with concussion specialists and like I said, they reassured me and gave me the knowledge that I needed. But I mean, it's not hard at all for me when I got here. I'm a football player. That's what I love doing since I was a little kid. So, I mean, that's the, that's the only thing I wanted to do on playing my dream. And so when I get out here, I don't think about, oh, I might get hurt or I might get a concussion.

3:47:20I just got there and main focus is winning and having fun out here. And so it's not too hard for me to put it behind me. Stuff happening in life, stuff happening in the game that may not go our way, but just by responding and coming out here and having fun. So when you see older players, you know, from previous generations in the game that have had concussions and some of the struggles they're having in their older life. Right. What are these specialists telling you to alleviate any concerns that you may have about the potential of having to deal with those same problems, those former circumstances? Yeah, that's a great question. And a lot of the information and a lot of things before, like during the time of those older players are a lot different than the knowledge and information that we have now. And I mean, we're able to treat concussions. And also back then is like, if you got a concussion, they were sending you right back into the game. So now it's a lot different. We got a protocol and it gives your brain time to heal and everything. So I think things are setting plays now where it's a lot better than before and that time where we're making problems later on.

3:48:28So that's why I'm not really too concerned about it. But you can then recommend it to you. Say it again. So you can recommend it by the trainer or Michael's dad? No, I just wanted to get into a new helmet. I mean, people have a refer to they also, although during our team meeting has said how there's a number of helmets are better than other helmets right now. So I just wanted to check those out and see what they are. Is this concussion any more severe than the others you had? No, that's one of the other things. I mean, I'm not going to give a whole seminar on concussions over here. But no, it's not necessarily more severe. Each concussion, like just what I learned, each concussion is its own specific concussion. And you gotta give that time to heal and then once that's healed and ready to go, once you get back out here, you're good. So it's not like concussions are building on top of each other. Like you give it time to heal. But I think like before what guys were getting trouble with a long time ago is like they get a concussion, not fully healed. And then they go right back out there and playing. Does it look like a captain see a side or maybe part of it? Can you just reflect on how you've grown since showing up here in fairly 21? Is it a player of personal or a man?

3:49:29Yeah, I've been here for a little while now. I've been enjoying every second of it. I always came in trying to be a captain and trying to lead these guys as best as I can. And I definitely feel that I've grown vocally and just trying to help build the team up and build myself up. So I'm just trying to do anything I can to help this team. How about in a concussion situation like this? You're so close to reminding your brother. Did you have to sort of involve the family's decision behind that go? Yeah, definitely. They came down with me. So when I was I had like when the team was here doing meetings, I was driving up to a Pittsburgh meeting with the concussion specialist and everything. And they were with me and just easing their mind. That's the biggest thing. easing their mind. They're all they're worried and everything. But they'll be okay. We saw the play with Elijah. Say it again. We saw the play practice. Did you think you'd be out for two weeks after that? I mean, I was good. It was that day that I was kind of had a headache and everything.

3:50:29But I was pretty much good after that. But it was just about going through the protocol. I mean, there was no rush back. We weren't playing regular season games. So I mean, I was just really good in the time that it wasn't any rush. You've already had a helmet to helmet. From your perspective, it has to be an expert. Are those doing what they're intended to do? You know, you gotta take, wear it when he got hurt. You know what I'm saying? Like guys are still getting concussions and getting a lot wearing. Yeah, it's definitely still a physical sport. So I mean, concussion happened regardless. I know if you were in a guardian cap or not. I think it could be looked at too. I know and just talked about it on the guardian cap. I don't think in the back that is as much padding as I would like. But I feel it could be looked at. But I think you get a concussion whether you're wearing a guardian cap or not. So I mean stuff happens. This is a physical game. Just to clarify this, you said you're going to get any helmet. Also wear the guardian cap during the game.

3:51:30No, I'm not going to. Yeah, yeah. You know, the game and the brand of helmet, like any details you have. Oh, I'm not sure the brand of name yet. I have to get it from those guys inside. But you guys will definitely be seeing this soon though. And how do you feel about not playing in a preseason game? You have to say you're a career where it's not a big deal. I want to say it's not a big deal, but I don't feel any pressure any like, I just needed to play in a preseason game. I feel that's a great opportunity for the younger guys to get out there and showcase what they're able to do. But I still been practicing and playing and working out and getting ready for the season. So I mean, I know the game. I'm looking forward to that first game. And I'm not really concerned about not being able to get a snap of the preseason game. I think about MJ did feel, and if you particularly during the joint practice against Jefferson. Yeah, MJ is the number one corner. I mean, you guys see it. He's going to be big for this year. I think that's what's special about this team. We got three number one corners myself, MJ and Greg.

3:52:30I thought we all number ones and we able to do different things out there on the field. And one guy's out, another guy can step in and not lose track or not lose pace on what we got going on. How do you think MJ has grown as a leader in the early of the year three? And he's kind of thinking on this world as a guy that's bringing energy and also trying to bring it along? Yeah, definitely. Like you said, bring it in. That's exactly bringing energy, bringing guys along. MJ is real vocal out there. And he competes as he's in competitor out there and just working hard and trying to be the best. He got the mindset of wanting to be the best and he is. So we just go out there and compete with one another. Were you happy to see CD Lam get his contract signed and be ready to go out there and play this game so you can face the better? No, I'm definitely happy for him. That's like changing a contract and everything for him and his family. So definitely happy for him. I'm looking forward to going to having that match up in the game. I always love going against the number one guys and best guys on that team. So I'll be looking forward to it. It tends to look up more to history and concussions that we're talking about.

3:53:32I think when you suffer the latest one, people who cover the team and fans are wondering how loud a discussion could you contemplate and retire? Did that ever go through your mind or do you immediately know that you're going to come back? Yeah, like I said, this is a game I love. I love playing this game. Being with the guys out here. I really don't see myself doing too much other stuff. Unless I'm just really physically unable to play this game. I don't see myself stepping away from football no time soon. Like I said before, I can't take it easy on these receivers out here. So me being out here, I got to give them a good look and just go out there and play. But I'll answer your question now. I haven't seen myself walking away though. Are you actually out of protocol now? Yes. Hey, they tell great cold miles hard in the steel drafts. What are you seeing? Say it again. It's a great cold miles hard in the steel drafts. What have you seen from any other camp and what kind of excites you by hand? Yeah, Miles, he's been balling. He's been showing out, making plays against the Vikings.

3:54:33And just making plays out here. So it was big for him to make the team. I was happy for him. We all congratulated him. And he's going to be a big piece on our team. So I'm going forward. I'm off another rookie. You mentioned making the receivers better. How have you seen how you meet? Jamari talked about how you've helped him as a rookie. What have you seen out of him in his development? Yeah, he's been looking good since he came in. I think he's been getting better and better. He's night and day from once he came in. So where he's at now, I believe. I think that's just his competitive nature and what he's been doing out there in practice. And that's going against one another out there. So he's been good and he's going to be a big piece as well to our offense. What's your tip to you? What's your tip to you? Do you give receivers? How can you help a receiver? Yeah, I mean, it's a constant communication. If I were to win on a red, they may come and ask me what it is that you've seen on that play that you're able to get in position. And I'll tell them that. I may ask them a question. So it's just that constant communication on how we can get each other better. Appreciate it. Thank you guys. Thank you.

3:55:33Thank you. Glad to be back. I just. Several coaches, players, the enthusiasm of having you in the big 12 two-part question. When you look at what you've done, Jackson State, first year at Colorado, the accomplishments and the eyes and attention that you've brought, have you taken the moment to sort of sit back and appreciate, I know you've given a lot of love to your players and programs, but have you taken time to appreciate the worth and what you brought part one, part two? I do you have one at a time. I'm 56. You can't do that. One at a time. Give me one at a time, all right? First of all, thank you. Thank you for just understanding and recognizing those things. I don't have time to sit back and watch what was done because I'm so busy doing what I do.

3:56:38So I don't have time for, you know, even though my arms could reach that back to the pet myself on the back, I ain't got time for it. You don't like it anyway. Every once in a while I do it because I know y'all ain't gonna do it. So I don't have time for it, but I appreciate it and I'm thankful of the calling that God has on my life. I really am. Now we go to part two. Part two with what you brought to the programs in the historic Black Colleges and to Colorado. Do you feel an obligation with whom you are to perform at a higher level or coach at higher level? Yeah, like I guess. Yes. I'm judged on a different scale. My wins are totally different than your wins. Your wins, you just judge in football. That's why I have to start out and give you education and academics and so forth. I have to give you those things so you understand there's a greater scope. I can't win nine games and we, our GPA suffers.

3:57:38Our GPA can't be high, but we lose another eight games. We can't not go and grab high school players and you got a bunch of guys in the portal out of the portal that's getting incarcerated. My wins are different. We have to win in every area. That's the way we're judged. I'm cool with that because we come a little different. So the expectation is greater. But it's not just football. It's been like, did all my life. I've always had a greater expectation for myself. So the expectation you have for me would never outweigh the expectation I have for myself. Thank you. That's a wonderful question. All right. We'll go to the left side, third row in the middle. Hey, Deon Collins-Willson with the action network over here. One question. What led you to the hiring of Robert Livingston come from the same thing? Oh my God. They test the opportunity. I mean, we needed the defense coordinator and I'm a pro, man. And that's nothing against the college coaches because we have some phenomenal college coaches, especially in this conference.

3:58:43But I'm a pro. So I like the relationships and the thought process of a pro. And Coach Livingston was recommended to me by a few pros that I'm well familiar with in our trust. My gzimmer being one of them. And his interview process and his consistency and his thought process and his relatability just put place him well above the other applicants. I'm happy I made the decision. And when we look back on it, I'm, first of all, I pray to God that I keep him because I feel like we're going to kick butt, we're going to win. And he's going to be a head coach and college or pros or whatever he endeavors because he's that good. So I'm thankful and I'm happy for him, but he is awesome. When I tell you awesome, he is totally awesome. Okay. Okay, we'll go over here to the right side in the first row. We got another guy on the side of the ball named Pat Sharma that's pretty darn good as well.

3:59:45I mean, really good. And his compatibility and relationship with Shador is amazing. And what they plan on doing this season, I can't wait to see it myself. Yes, sir. Coach Prime, my name is Arnie Bayesmore with Vegas Sports today. Yeah. I want to officially welcome you to our amazing CD of Lost Vegas. Thank you. Now, my question is, I don't gamble though. So you ain't getting that out of me. Okay. With respect to legacy and impact, what legacy and or impact do you hope to have on the world of sports as a player and or as a coach? Both, really, I don't care like how you see me, how you look at me. I'm more apt to understand how I see me and how I look at me and how God sees me and how he looks at me. So really, I don't care how you see me. It's never going to be enough. Nothing I do is ever going to be enough. So I'm cool with that. I understand that that is life and that's how life is going to be. But I plan on being a tremendous blessing to as many people as can bless, especially those probably 120 young men that put on this CU helmet and go out there and to play for our school in our program.

4:00:57So the sum of all up, man, I just want to be known as a great dad. I think I have three sons here today and I just want to be a great dad to them. That's it. Thank you, my man. I appreciate you. All right. We'll see in the right side. We'll go about halfway back on the aisle. Coach Thomas, WDY in Fargo, North Dakota. You're opening up with North Dakota State or known PBS killer. Tell me what you know about the bison. They're good. They're really darn good. And I'm mad at Rick right now for putting them on the schedule, open up with them. Like, can you give me a layup or something? Like those guys are wonderful. Their staff has always been amongst the best. Many people have matriculated from that staff to go to higher levels. Those kids play their butts off. They play tough. They don't make many mistakes. They're accustomed to winning. They don't give a darn about being at home on the road that does not face them whatsoever. We just can't wait to see it.

4:01:57I know it's a national television game. I believe it's a Thursday night game. Hopefully not too late. But we can't wait to see them. It's going to be a phenomenal game, phenomenal matchup. But that program is second to none. All right. We'll go to the left side, sixth throw on the far left side. Stuart Mandel from the athletic. Going into your two, what are some of the things that give you confidence that this season can end a lot better than for a day? When I see the offensive line and the way they train, the way they work, the way to go about their job, when I see the defensive line coaches and the way they're on their kids and the way they're demanding excellence. And the way these young men are working in the athletes that they are and the bodies that they have and they've developed right now. When I see the receiving core standing out the practice to work with the quarterback, coming over the quarterbacks, coming over there on off days to work with one another.

4:02:59When I see the running backs doing the same, led by a former walk on Charlie Alford Doll. When I see the special teams, Mark Vesett is here right now. I think he's a darn pro in model that don't miss. And Jayce Philly and those guys that they can't wait to their time. They understand special teams mean that we're special. When I see those, the secondary shoot, they get out of bed and want to play man-to-man coverage. I love it, man. And shall OK wait to hit somebody. You know, Cam Silman. So many of the guys, the change made from safety to linebacker would Trevor, I mean. And I really think this young man is going to be the next briner, Laker. I think he's going to make that transition from safety to lineback and be dominated. Like I just see the won't in the fight and desire from our young men. And I can't wait to you get an opportunity to see it as well. So I'm very optimistic on what we have on our plate this year.

4:04:03All right, we'll go to the right side, third row right in the middle. Phillip Dukes, the five star flicks on on three coach centers. I don't. As the father of three Division 1 football players, what did you learn during their process as a parent that's helped you formulate your recruited style as a head coach? Great question. First and foremost, I've set in all seats. The parent seat being recruited as the kid, now being the coach, that helps me tremendously when I'm recruiting, when I'm understanding what the parent is thinking, what the kid is thinking, now what the coach desires to want to know. It's been a tremendous asset for me to understand those facets of this new recruiting age that is impacted tremendously by NILs and collectives. So I love it.

4:05:05Sometimes I don't like it, but I love it and I love that these kids are being compensated somewhat for what they bring to the table. I don't want them to put the bag before the game, because if you have the game, the bag is going to come. I want them to understand that. But I just don't want to take away from the purity, the purity of this wonderful game that we have. I've got a college footballist phenomenal man. This conference is phenomenal. Look at what we are. You got to be kidding me. I'm a brother from Folk My Eyes Florida. And I'm sitting up here in the Dern Inzo and in Las Vegas talking to the whole Dern country about a childish game that I play when I was a shouting. Don't you understand how powerful and how wonderful this is? And I'm so darn thankful to be here. So I try to relay that to all our young men. You better maximize it. And let's go get it. But thank you. It's a wonderful question. All right. We'll see in the right side. We'll go halfway back in the center aisle.

4:06:05And if you out there is right. I got you today, right? Okay. All right. We'll go back halfway back on the right side on the center aisle. Coach Prime, Alex Blackburn, College Football Dogs. With all the media attention surrounding your program, how do you stay focused on the main goal, which is winning games? How do you keep yourself and your team focused? Well, you keep the main thing, the main thing. The main thing never should transfer itself. Winning is what we're here for. As far as the focus and intention, I think every since I stepped into Florida state in 85 has been like that for me. This ain't new to me. I'm not new to this. Like we say in the hood, I'm true to this. So this is new to some of you all. And you want us to change. We're not going to change. We're going to try to do things being smart, tough, fast, disciplined with character. That's what we're relaying to all our young men. But the cameras and the lights, I think I haven't seen one kid here today to say he didn't like that.

4:07:08He may not like the process, but he likes the the the pagots that you wrap him up in and you put him out there. All these kids are excited about the EA sports game, right? There's there's scores and levels. They want attention. They want affection. They won't love. They want adoration. Adulation. I'm sorry. Yeah. We give you that. But you got to work first. So you can understand the consistency thereof is going to take you to where you want to go every time I'm on and dead. If that's what you please. I will stay over here on the right side. Third row right in the middle. Hi coach. How you doing? Good. How are you? You go girl. I know you. Nicky Edwards, you sports report. We talked during spring and throughout last season the importance on stopping the run. Yeah. You get a guy like BJ green and your defensive line. Yeah. How is he going to be a leader in achieving that goal? BJ green is already a leader. Do you know that BJ green played for me when he was five through seven years old with truth and Dallas and well South Dallas.

4:08:12So he's been a part of my life for a long time and they raised him right at Arizona State and for him to come over now. It's phenomenal. His work ethic the way he approaches in the text of game. It's phenomenal. His want his desire. His will. I just got finished joining interview and they say well you have two young men that projected probably to be the top five picks. But we won't for in the first round. And the only way that's going to happen is we win and they're dominant and I think BJ green could be one of those guys. And I think he will be one of those guys because he wants it that much. Shane round deal. Amari McNeil. I'm just the name of you and corn is to to feed Chodosi T.C. That's my dog from Arkansas. I mean we have some guys inside there that can flat out do it outside. We have some guys that can go get the quarterback as well. We just want to be in the position to allow them to be the best they can be.

4:09:17And that's one thing that coach Livingston is doing well. He's not coming in trying to remake everything and reinvent the wheel. He's like let's find out what these guys can do well and let them do what they do. And that's what we're going to do. That's the formula. I told you guys that's that's what we do. Okay. That's how we coming. All right, final question far left side about a question. I'm just having a good time. Now you got to go right out of time. We got a shot. Pluck joy. Did they give you a shot? Pluck. How you doing coach? How you doing? On me, I con TG sports here. I have a quick question regarding building a winning culture. Yeah, what does that mean? What does a winning culture mean? I want to know what that means because you got to be a winner to understand what that winning culture means. Everybody want to know about the culture, the culture. What is culture? To me culture is day in day output in the work. Lifestyle. Lifestyle. Okay. So progressing in that general area right there as far as the winning culture side.

4:10:22Last year you guys started off strong. You did kind of fills it out a little bit towards the end of the year. But I remember you still talking about continuing to build that winning culture day in day out. Do you feel the guys that you brought in this year are going to be able to help you fill those gaps? I don't want to talk about culture that much. So that wasn't me. But I do talk about the consistency there of the goal and being consistent in whatever you do. So if you you have a team that's that got to be a little more physically tough. You got to develop that. You got mentally tough strategically satisfying and from the coaching staff's point of view. You got to understand that but culture everybody's own this word this word and I don't understand this word one bit and somebody got to help me understand what that word culture means. An environment understanding of winning you want that. I feel like I'm a winner. I know I'm a winner. So whatever I display, however I go about my job, my work, my business, my personal life. That's that's of a winner. That's all I know.

4:11:28I don't know anything else but that. So in due time and due process, we're going to reach that goal because we're going to get there because I know I'm going to get there. And I'm not going by myself. That'll do it coach. Thank you for your time. Wow. God bless you. I'm there for this spring. Glad to be with you better. Is that just time in the program? I'm just getting used to the speed of college. What about Calvin? He was obviously here last year. He was. Calvin has gotten a lot better. Like I would say that he's gotten a lot smarter.

4:12:34And he also write GB. Go ahead and think about Calvin's intelligence, you know, where he's grown. Where specifically is it? The film room? Is it kind of picking up the playbook? Where have you seen that? The rain of a crab? I would say Calvin has gotten smarter just like his game knowledge, like expecting like a different kind of wraps and stuff like that. What did everything start to click for you? The last year was it in the soft season? When did you feel really comfortable? I would say it in the spring. I started to get a lot more comfortable in our defense. We say you break up the past yesterday with the share of my name. I'm sorry if you're asked but it's earlier. But what is like going up against him? Do you? It seems like you enjoy it. Yeah, I love it. He's tough. I like going against him a lot. He's really good. What have you improved in your game just from that, for example, those those one-on-one matchups? This preseason or whatever? You know how badly this game is. So Jill, he forces me to pay the back of the game. If you don't pay the back against him, he'll go get it. Yeah. And you Dave sent it. How would you describe this defense now compared to this time of year ago from the standpoint of a confidence factor?

4:13:42You don't mean that you guys feel on the field? How would you describe it? It's different about it, I guess. I feel like everybody is a lot more smart than this here. Everybody's right. I would just say that we're going just smarter. When you look up and late and ran some decided to come back and Caleb down, transfer it in. What did you feel about that? Did it just grow stronger in that one week span, two weeks span? You're still on up saying? So those guys have played the level those guys have played at? Yeah, I would say that. Like, a guy's coming in and we're playing saves, coming back, just so like, we'll be happy to be the daddy. Thanks, man. I heard that. I mean, you know, I, they say this up sometimes, I just try to keep going and not take it to my level, because I don't know how those governments say they go good, but I just don't know where I keep doing my job.

4:14:49Yeah, I can't know how to say for them, but I love this place. I wanted that to be a point of my career here, the same place in the world. I thought you were a man. You know, you have to be a man. You have to be a man. You have to be a man. He always do like, you have to be a man. He had never heard that one, but I mean, I mean, I think I'm definitely the new agent of college football. It's more money instead of, you know, the term royalty, I guess, but I love everything about Ohio State. I love my A to win. That's one thing about our team, like, maybe we all rock, or even no matter what, so people make the name that I want to be able to say about that. And I, I feel so many good, like, long-lasting friends with these guys have been the part of these teams, so I didn't know what our change was.

4:15:57I mean, I always treated you as if I was. I prepared like I was. I was an interesting guy. I knew that my time would come, and I'd be ready to take my take, which I wouldn't have come. So I'm just happy that I would even do that, and still try to put better view to be able to. I mean, we're a good team. Our college comes from our preparation. You know, we practice hard, and we want to make sure we get everything. We have a little bit of a little detail we can, and I think Coach Gouge is a really good job in that. And I think we need to continue to do that because everything that happened last week does one matter if you don't do this week. And our goal is to do our better than we did last week, and to a totally game we wanted to give out the best.

4:16:58You've seen the role of a guy who wants to really get into it. Everyone's trying to be a nice guy to make a good choice. I think that's the biggest thing football is not to be a fun sport. We're meant to go out there and make plays and have fun. You really be brothers with each other, so you know, the only time you really make plays on your own, you know, I've been trying and I've been playing. So you really have to go stand in hand, and we're just out there trying to help my effort. My life that's just in the sky right there. I just want to say this. I appreciate this. I mean obviously we've got a couple of years for you. Did there? I'm curious about how you picked your higher stage. How you doing? It's pretty good. You started to do it quite a few days ago, but I mean in terms of the guy who you want to join us. How do you pick your team? You're not a good team. You're not a good team. You're not a good team. You're not a good team.

4:17:59You're not a good team. You're not a good team. You're not a good team. What do you want out of a corner back in your face? White guys, after you've turned missing a chance to go out and see what you're going to do. Oh yeah, this is what I'm going to do. We've got a major team at one of our most interesting places. We've got a major team at one of our most interesting places. We've got two Saturdays and two just to go out and see what you're going to do. So that's what we're going to do. I mean, just make sure that there's a number of them. I hear. I'm going to follow what you're going to do. You see me at first. I'm just a good, good couple of dark people. I'm a good guy. I'm a good partner. Thank you for all those visiting jokes today. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. Thank you. Thank you.

4:18:59Once again, your missing. I'm going to talk to him. I'm going to talk to him. I'm going to talk to him. First, I'm not mad at him. We just found a real road. What do you think he can bring to the top? You know, we're talking to him. So like, the lock you're doing. What is the lock you in? What's in like for you to come out to count? Or you being out of color today? Or a lot of things. Like, you're helping me to just load it? Yeah, I'm just going to do some. Different being out of state recruit here. There's a point you were just a couple of hours tell you. It's definitely different. So we're flying here. This is a new generation of recruits where I don't think anybody outside looking in real questions the strength of your commitment, like you locked into a last state

4:19:59over but making visits around the country you see other schools it's almost a totally different mindset. How do you approach these other visits and how do you communicate with Ohio State about them? What's been the message? I'm always lucky and I'm still enjoying my places. This is only one time. I'm very interested in enjoying the other schools that I'm telling you. Yes, it's going to be really hard to try to give you the flip. So how do you stay in Ohio State? What does it mean you want to take home to this? For me, I think it's time for them. Most of the times they don't even care that I play football. The kids at Children's Hospital like I always try to just go there every day. You get to interact with the kids and they're just having someone's taking the time to hang out with them.

4:21:04We did thing though. I won multiple times but it's fun hearing them call him and we're telling jokes. I just enjoy that part rather than just making a big deal about how I want to award. How do you promote the idea that your face stands? Did that happen in the moment? I think the point is finding as far as the skiing that you guys like to run with all the guys. You can see it in the back of the record despite all the injuries you got to suffer. I think that just shows you how depth our line is and how good and how much of a team we are right now. For them, the guys who got hurt and the guys who come in there and play. These guys are probably never thinking that they had a chance maybe early on. The table turns so fast and they're put in position where they have to help us win. I think that we're these past two weeks showed how good our line is and I think it's credit to them for the success that we're having on the ground.

4:22:15I always say I was in my hat off to them because Coach Pat and everybody in the line room for helping us all out. I think that is just a mentality. We take pride in winning the second half but we have to perform in the first half too. This is a four quarter game for a quarter fight. 15 round fight. That's how I say it. We have to find a way to do that in the first half but make sure that we bear minimum that we win the second half. That's just going back to how we train in camp and OTAs and all those other times that we had to dig down deep. We find that dog mentality and I think that the line is such a fill line. I think that they're the ones who's moving the heart of the team to be the team and we're just following the way they're providing for us. How would an impact your run game be able to get a four-darel back on this week?

4:23:19What is the ad in the room? What is the ad in the room? What does it do for a third of the run-about room? What does it do for a third of the run-about room? I mean, CP is just a weapon and he brings what he brings. He's all the famous. We all know he's a playmaker in all areas. Not just the running back or the special teams but even our receiver. He's like a... he's a put him anywhere. Just to have another player out there on the field where they have the game plan for is good. You saw some day you feel like the offense has come together. It's a quick and faster than it has taken longer to be able to point back and see what it is. What do you feel like are the ingredients of the end of that? Why do you think it's happened to that condition? Practice. You just got to keep reaching it. Sometimes it might not work the first, second, third week but you know if you just keep trying and you keep getting at it and keeping that mentality then eventually good things will happen. You know so it just shows that every day they go in detail when they go out there in the field.

4:24:22They're in detail. They're always out there early. They're always out there. They're the last ones out there too. And it's showing. So when there's just practice like anything in life, you know, if you want to be good at anything you just have to practice. And it's not so much about how fast you get it, how long it takes to just get in there. Now we're getting it early. Just keep at it. Just keep working. Hey brother, how are you? You want to say something? You coming interview? No? He has a, hey spin, come on. Tell him how terrible your music tastes. Come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come here, what are you doing? No, no, no, come on. No, come on, come on. All right, whatever. You're hearing guys, anybody else? Okay, well now you want to do some of the most important things that you think you carry out for a week. You get well on and off and so actually two weeks, you know, you do have it. Drop the hug, I'm going to talk to him in a few days. Thank you, fat. Huh? I'll talk every Thursday, actually. That's my day to talk. Any way else? What did you say? I was saying, you know, we've been talking a lot about the stuff you guys have around your focus. What did some of the important things that you think that happened?

4:25:22Is this thing that's just what I wanted to do? I mean, it's pretty much the same thing I've been saying all the time. He'd ask, what do you got to do? It's just practice, man. You just practice, you go out there and you practice. And not so much. You know, what you do is you go and film the next day, you watch it, you see what you need to prove on. You see what was good, what was bad, you know, in college, we call it the good, bad and ugly. You watch film, you put it bad, you put it to rest, then you work on the next team. I mean, you guys, you guys have the same questions pretty much over and over again. It's just practice, it's just practice, man. When you talk about practice, is there something that are interested in challenges? You guys differently are there elements that are different from the rest of your life? I mean, he, I mean, just keeping it the energy, you know what I mean? Don't get laxidazzy. You know, I mean, don't get too comfortable. And this, especially in this sport, you know, you can't get too comfortable at all. Because no matter who you're playing the week after week, when I, what the record is, you know, they're still a good team. And they're still a capable team. You know, we got the Giants this week and they're a really good team too.

4:26:23They got a good front and they got good players on offense too. So, you know, just having that mentality of where that, you know, we got a, we got a dig down deep and, and really just, you know, finish this week out. It's the most important thing and it's having that mentality. You have to go to one more guy. You have to use it. You have to use it. You have to use it in seconds. You go with the energy and everything. You have to use it in practice and it does that. Help with the energy and then keeping things light and it keeps going. I personally don't care. I mean, in college, we didn't really do no music. But obviously it's not college. But I think, you know, some guys like it. I mean, you don't matter how we got to do it before, you know, I mean, music are no music. It's just a performance and you just don't lose focus on that. You have music, do whatever, but just keep the main thing and the main thing is winning. You're so good for a straight. Do you get frustrated in moments like that in the ballstack? Definitely. A little bit of both. Obviously, I just wanted the team to win. I think we got a chance to win. You know, definitely towards it and to stretch that last drive.

4:27:23I was a couple of plays here. A couple of calls that you maybe should have gotten. But I think the frustration more so it just comes from, you know, wanting to win more. You said he was a little surprised how much attention you got right away from your defense. How about you? Yeah, definitely. We maybe giled in more one-on-ones kind of how the game plan was set up. We didn't have a lot of different coverage out of cloud to my side. And this is kind of how the game goes. What's the process of being in the elections sometimes where, but whatever reason, just to see that most? Yeah, definitely. Especially in college, a lot of the game fans defensively were taking your life. You know, they had a lot of success. I was able to stay out of seat with them. One of the boys had in different weapons. They kind of still get the victories. And I was, yeah, you continue to do better jobs when I hear. Why are you keeping the communication the process been like post-game, getting on the same page with Kyler, just, you guys exchange tax, third, you guys in the film? Yeah, film, definitely. Kind of asking what did I see there, kind of go over and play.

4:28:26That's how I get him when I saw, and kind of different feedback there. Just change words. Mark, I get it. We're asking questions about the previous game. Are you the type of guy to let a game like that winger or how do you flush it? You got to move on. Got to move on. It's a long season guy. It's like 16 more of them. Hopefully, you know, I can stay healthy throughout the year and just continue building to better each week. You guys did so much work throughout the off season to get on the same page. How different is it when you get into that regular season? Yeah, it's totally different. It's totally different. You can do a lot of things, you know, inserts and shorts, and then you go out there and put practice and you get pads on. You do like the point practice we do with the colds, but there's nothing like actually going out there and live action. And really trying to be on the same page. So I think that relationship will continue to develop and we'll get better. Is that it? It's just a matter of rubs then. Just a matter of rubs then. Yeah, definitely. Like I said, I was kind of my first live action together. So I think we'll continue to give up. What are your early impressions on the field together and what's your opinion?

4:29:26Yeah, but now obviously I have a deafness respect, you know, JG's call or preseason. And I obviously be all feel really healthy. That's kind of the most important thing. And I was a good, well healthy, going forward. So, um, that's it. Marvin, what are your early impressions of the Rams? What do you think of the Rams? Yeah, I mean, they're a good team. They're a good physical team. I got a new lot of new guys up front, I think. That's kind of where the strong suit is. Kind of a little different to Buffalo, come over to a little match coverage. So I'm excited to build this. Personally, when the bells tape gave me one of my opportunities, how do you feel today? Wasn't many of them. Wasn't many of them. So, uh, I thought I could do it. I'm just what you think versus just playing. You know, not getting a preseason game actually. Things in the past. Definitely, definitely thinking a lot out there. I think I'll come with reps. I think they're thinking less and just going out there and playing. Definitely come with reps. And it's something you're on, you're better at. But, uh, they definitely say I was thinking a lot out there. Is there anything you can do to improve that? That's where I'm coverage.

4:30:26Anything you can do in the past, because you're going to fix that a lot. Yeah, I mean, you just got to team, get open for yourself. Make it, your self-available. The one the ball does, can be made, making the play. Um, this, he's just taking you away. That means other guys are having a chance to get open. So, that's how kind of how I look at it. It's no longer since it's even offensive. That's the best thing for us. They're kind of going to be with Kyla. Is this something that comes pretty quickly on a new game? Or something like that? Much. Hopefully sooner or later, I think. Um, they'll continue to see. We'll see. I don't think we're in a bad place right now at all. Obviously, I don't really think that. But, uh, just a live reps, we'll continue to grow and show. Been one of its players. Again, I think everybody leads. Um, in a way, you know, not everybody's the... Bro, guys, come around. That's not everybody, right? Like, I think for me, that's me specifically on Game Day. With the O-I, and after we do a little one, like, that's my like, well, I'm dead. Like, that's my like, big vocal time I feel like.

4:31:29I'm talking about this, you know, just recently. Um, talking about how, what I want to do for the run was, I want to bring that hump energy that he brought, right? So last year, um, of course, I'm sure he's been doing for years, but the year when I spent my own, he brought a lot of energy, excitement, and happiness in the room, which is his natural energy, to where I only had to focus on me. You know, I didn't have to make sure other, other guys were, you know, feels the type of way when it came in here, because hump brought that. And I have a hump knot here, but I saw a way different room. I want to be that guy to make sure I want to amptical to practice everybody's hype. We're taking a built team on period, you know, it's a low day, or something, you know, it's a different, but like, I want to make it feel like hump comes. Like, you have the pairs to trip. I want to bring that, because that's what me and hump did to each other. We were hype each other up, dudes like, dude, it's probably going to be a walk.

4:32:29We're flit. So I want to do that. I want to bring that energy. You want to make bring more guys. You want to do that. I want to do that from day one, you know, I kind of, I want to do that from day one. I'm talking to them, and obviously it's that time I spent in the offices and before OTA started, just being in my self-esteem about what the room needs. You know, because I know I do new role as one of leaders, you know, what I want to do is that we need a guy like that is going to make sure the O-line is picked up. We're ready to go every day. I want to help a kind of a little things, or having a practice of people and saying anything, and how I believe maybe different than somebody else may believe. You know, like, that practice, at least, like, of legal positivity, you know what I mean. So, but the energy I want to be on, just, oh, hype up the beyonds, like, so I was calm. I want to be going on, living my whole life on again.

4:33:34I felt team captain, like, specifically, and I felt I wasn't captain in high school. I wasn't captain in college, but I want to make a joke, I want to make a joke, I want to make a joke. I feel like I'm not going to be captain until I get that I felt. But that would be awesome, you know, but, you know, the happens that be great. But not either way, I want to assume a role as a captain from the perspective of guys onto the visual world and get back in that world. Yeah, I mean, I can't say that, I mean, I guess the biggest thing is that I felt like I used to in the past, but it didn't take just the first ALTAs and took training and left and right. Once this season ended because I know what it was going to be. So, it took a lot of, yeah, grips, just to give back to feeling like myself for the ALTAs. And then that whole first week, but now, like, today specifically, just changing some small things with my feet.

4:34:38That is it, talking about the long coach, about some things I'm going to do with my feet to get to sell my traditional angle that I love to sit on. I thought I felt great already, but I felt even better. So I need more excites tomorrow now, get on my feet back and how I like the right side and on the left side. So, I'm excited. I mean, obviously, I feel like in the league, whether I left the right, you're still going against Premier guys. So obviously, you have high expectations for the left and right tackle. But definitely, like, the level of energy and the expectations definitely take the human strength. Because now, I can not get blinds like that. That's the D tackle world, you know? So, yeah, I would say in terms of communication as far as this even outside of the facility, just stuff like that, like really creating that tackle quarterback, body even more often, I feel like that has been something that's even cool.

4:35:39I got a text one day, and I said, hey, I keep well up. I was like, you know, I've been training both. I've been training both. You know, I asked after the season there, like, honestly, you know, we'll talk to you separately in the season, and I just got a text on, depending on how this went with the free agency. So I was like, you know, what? I had an O season right tackle. So if I get the word, I'm going, I'm standing right tackle. I'll just do what I did before I'm built on that. But I was like, I might as well as training the left tackle now, as if we're going to be left tackle. And I'd rather do that than training on right tackle because I could go play the left tackle. I didn't switch my feet yet. You know what I mean? So I'm like, let me just prepare an advance. I was like, yeah, let's go. And you know, I think occasionally on third down, there would be a lot of twists. I was just not like, it's automatic. And I think that was my mindset for like the first half of the season. Like, I didn't have to go into the game with some pros. Like, I said, did that.

4:36:39I kind of figured, okay, like, this is the type of rush. And like, this is how this guy usually rushes. Like, get the vibe. This is how the ends like the rush, you know, tackles that are, you know, first year guys. We got the premier patch on already, you know, what it was going to be. Already, you know, every stunt. And honestly, just knowing that's kind of an advantage to, so you're not, you're not, you're not, oh, the brother twists on my side again. It was never airing off of it. Well, they come up and I was like, three plays in a row. And two minutes, I knew that. And it was going to happen. And they said, you know what I mean? I'm watching more everybody else. And he rarely, he really goes out there on occasion on third down. I was like, you know, I was like, he's going to pick me. You know what I mean? So, that effect, it's kind of, it's also kind of an advantage in a way. But it's also exciting, like, okay, I'm going to give the hardest look. You know, those are real, real reps, you know, the day. So, really out on our way to kind of process. And I was like, hey, when they tell me, let me know about, I'm just going to train it.

4:37:42I was training all the way up to OTAs. I guess if I didn't hear anything about OTAs, I would have came in like, you know what I mean? Because just like, I'm cool with training both continuing. I would have been cool with training both continually. But I feel like anybody in any position will feel like, okay, like, you want as soon as possible to give your feet kind of settled in, your hips settled in, your hands, so then, certain kind of that. Would it have been harder to hit your workbowl during OTAs? No. But they're definitely, but in terms of the development, they're definitely a lot faster, they're staying on one side. But I think having that week that we had the transition with seasons over, I'm delighted to respond. You know, it would, you know, we're trying to get up to put up my front and back in week. Things at a time right now, but when it comes back, I'm going to show them the one house. I just got a house, not too far from, so I told them, I got that house,

4:38:42like, I could yell outside. But these days, you know what I mean? So, yeah. Be able to have guys looking up to you, ask them questions, and it's a great feeling to be a part of, to know that, I mean, I can help develop younger guys that had the opportunity to play this year, next year. So, it's all about being in the position that I'm in. You feel like, will you need to develop a knack for playing with the other safety ease and you're out there coming in with everybody's new. I think that's something. I feel like that's communication that comes at time. Yeah, we got, I used to play with late last year, so that was a blessing to have him here and to have a year with him. But now, yeah, we got to learn to play with new people and continue to grow as a defense and have new people in different positions. Okay, who's caught your eye in that secondary? It's kind of making a move this spring. It's turning out to you. I think everybody's done a really good job.

4:39:42I'd like the lot, what Leroy Roker is doing. He's stepped up a lot and had a lot of improvements that I love to see. Jalen and Malik had played extremely well, so just love to watch those two guys continue to compete and continue to grow. And then outside those guys compete every day. Miles Lockhart just got a strike off and he's been playing really well, so proud of him and what he's been doing. And just Devin Senches looked like what you would call a five star. I mean, when he's out there and stuff, you know what I mean? The guy comes in with Louis Vuittar, he goes back to a certain extent of living up to a billing. How has he lived up to it, I guess? At the end of the day, even when I got to college, it really doesn't matter about your stars. You walk in and you're at the same type of stature as everybody else. So it doesn't really matter in terms of how would you walk in here with. So he's learned a lot. He's improved a lot from day one to now. So it's been great to watch him develop and watch him get better.

4:40:42And he's made some exceptional plays and I hope to continue to see that. I do feel like McRory is helping you grow as a player. What's kind of your relationship? How has that kind of developed over the time that you've been here with him? Very football intelligent, very football first mindset. And I respect that as a person just to be able to go and have somebody with the same mindset as me. Coach Wallen has been a really good help to me and has helped me a lot on and off the field here. So I respect him for that. But Coach G is pushed me to increase and learn more football every day in our sport. Coach, do you have any other goals when you're just going to be in your process? Not when you guys know, not before you got ahead of them. Did what about this new coordinator, baby, brings a new idea of stuff? How could your role change or evolve or do you have a new paradigm? I mean, just being in new positions, the ability to play multiple positions in the secondary, playing Don and stuff like that,

4:41:48being put in different positions that I wasn't maybe put in last year to have different things on the field. I think that's a great thing. Always good to have versatility, as I said, and something I promise I've also looked forward to. I'm a coach for you, if you feel good, well, I'm pretty easy at the obviously, I'm not going to touch on you to be any, but you can give more opportunities with your players this year. That's a good day, Coach Hark's hands. I can't really think about that. But if I get the chance to go back there, it'll be on, and I'll try to pick another play. It's a light-blocking every day, seeing how things are going to be as each card. It's been, it has been kind of weird to walk in here and see all the different pictures that they put up. Even the three from the play-offs, so it's been great. And then they have different pictures inside and everything. It's been good. It's been eye-catching where you walk by, like, we just accomplished that. But it's a great situation to be in. You might have been asked for a few guys a couple of you, some of the fans, taking them to the issue because you haven't achieved anything yet. One of the leaders that kind of, like that, I can feel about that.

4:42:51I mean, I think that's, you have to reset at some point. And I think at some point we had, like, in the weight room, we had, like, massages every stuff up there. And it was like, I mean, the new guys that walk in here, we have earned anything. We as the new 2025, 26 season, we haven't earned anything. So we can't really take credit for anything that is up on the banner. So we can't take credit for winning anything at this point. We have to compete every day with the mods that have, we have to get better to be able to put ourselves in position to be, how the opportunity to get to that point. And it's a lesson learned from an accomplishment like that, Caleb, that you do carry forward. I mean, the lesson learned is you have to continue to work. Last year, every day we continue to stack bricks, like he said, and continue to get better every day. And I think that's why we came out to be where we were. And you can't just think about that from the moment that you get here in January, and you start lifting in there. You have to continually push to be exceptional every day. And it's not really helping if you're just looking at stuff from the last year.

4:43:54You get the move passed, you have to keep going. I think the spring has been good for that because it's been able to be okay. We are turning to new leaf. We have different people in here, new faces and everything. And it's different people on the field. And we got to make plays with who we are. Coach Stase says you've been limited from a participation standpoint to a certain extent, right? I was asking you a lot of go about the team. What have you noticed about this tank from a work standpoint of the catches your eye? Very competitive, I'll say. People are trying to compete and push themselves every day. And it gets chippy sometimes. That's always a good thing, especially on the defense, to have people that are willing to go there, willing to get to that age, and willing to be physical. I really like to see that. I'd love to see it. And I think we just need to continue to be more disciplined, continue to work on our skills and everything like that, continue to strive to be better. We're good. Did you see your last two players attacking?

4:44:54I mean, that's not what my eyes are. They ask, I'll do it for sure. That's not what my eyes are. The team that has so much turnover, you guys step up into the big ones, how big is it to have a guy like Sunny, and how much of you've been to see an emerald as a leader of those last two or three months? Oh, it's been an honor to see just because we've had conversations about it and everything, about how both of us are going to have to step in the bigger roles and everything like that. But to see where we had those conversations to where we're at now, it's just an honor to see the growth that he's been a part of, and a proud of him, and he's going to continue to get better, continue to be the person that he's supposed to be. As a room, so it went real. What was he saying to you that you didn't go to the first day? First day, he didn't really talk that much, but he gave us some tips and certain things to work on, and as he's learning our offense as well,

4:45:56because he just got here, so I think he's been great so far. I don't know how often he goes to leave in the next three practice. How surprised were you, what was your reaction to you for the moment? I don't know, just with the situation of college football where it is today, I understood, he coached off for how to do what was best for him, but I'm here at Ohio State not only just for everything around it, but I'm just here for the university and itself. So I think just focusing on the bigger picture and the brotherhood that's here and what's important to me, that's what I was focusing on throughout everything. Pretty surprised, I just got here not too often to go, but like I said, I understood it and just came here to continue to work. Yeah, definitely. Right, everyone I'm around, I've picked up something from, and I think Coach Alfred, I've learned a lot while his time was here. You know, he taught me a lot of different things specifically about the position and other position as well on the field.

4:46:58So I have learned a lot while his time was here and I thank him for that. Coach Locklin, what's sort of different about him, I mean, he's like a high energy guy. How would you describe that? Yeah, so with Coach Locklin, I mean, I've only been around him for a day, so I don't really know, but as you can see where he's coaching, how he is as a person, he's very high energy, he's very intense, you know, and I think he's very hands on, so I think it'll be awesome to be working with Coach Locklin. What's your opinion of soft fats? What's your opinion of soft fats cookies? I'm not sure that can be in the first meeting with you guys though. No, not yet. How much did you get to use the Florida City with the new FNF or new FNF? How much interaction do you have when you use a FNF? A lot, so we're from the same city, we're from the same place. At Florida State, you know, he worked on that staff with Coach Johnson and they offered me out of high school, so the relationship was already there then and we just continued to build on from then. What is it, what is it we wanted to meet in the off-screen? It meant a lot, you know, just the things that we talked about since I was young

4:48:00growing high school, you know, just didn't have that opportunity to go and play there, so it's awesome. Coach, what's the rest of the screen look like for you? What do you want to see yourself get there? Yeah, just to continue to improve all around, you know, continue to learn the offense and get involved in everywhere that I can on the field and just be able to improve my game all around. I know we were only in here for Saturday, we haven't seen you guys practicing a lot, but it's all you come out of the backfield, catch your tension, don't pass from will. Are you pushing to continue to get better out of the backfield? Where do you feel like you are as far as learning the offense and being a basketball-tripping back? Yeah, definitely, that's my goal to just continue to improve everywhere, but I think just overall it's just helping the team anyway that the team needs to be helping just being a team player, that's my deal, just trying to come in and help the team, whatever the team needs. How did you guys find out? I'm actually, I honestly don't remember how I found out, but I just remember the process on where we're going to do moving forward.

4:49:05Ryan Dees talked a lot about the leadership Travians, Rods for running backroom to spring. What, how have you seen that from now? Yeah, definitely. Travian, like I said, has improved. He's been a leader to the whole room, you know, by his actions and vocally as well, just continue to improve all around and inspire the young guys in the room. I think he's done very good at that. And Coach Dave's saying that T.C. Caffee's a guy that can contribute to you guys as well. What have you seen from him as a walk-on to be able to contribute to your room? Yeah, definitely. T.C. works very hard. He knows the offense, he's always in the playbook, always in the meetings, writing things down, very head down guy. He doesn't really talk that much, but he's very good. I agree. I was just like, something in the question. How's that? How was Coach Dave like his running back school experience? It's crazy you say that because he just told us he was like, well, guys, this is probably my last week, which I'll end up out. But Coach Dave has been awesome. He's taught us a lot of different things,

4:50:06as far as scheme and different positions that he's coached overall and taught us a lot of different things that we learned overall. So it's been awesome. I know it's probably unsettling not to have a position coach for two weeks, but what does it also mean? You have like the head coach in that hands-on with your coach? Yeah, definitely. It meant a lot. You know, the half-course day in those meetings, teaching us everything that he's put in and implementing it into our game and showing us how he specifically wants it. It was really good to have him there. You just tell about it in light and yellow for the respect of our quarterback. Right. What do you remember taking away from this game? Yeah, it's just really like not only looking at it from a running back perspective, but also as a quarterback as well, looking at certain reads, certain blitzes from other players, and just looking at it all around from the field. Can I use your second go? What's the list that you ran through the game time? You're in the fastest. You're in the fastest. Yeah, actually, I don't really remember, but thank you. I'm pretty sure you are. You are. You're in that face of the game. Yeah, definitely really comfortable.

4:51:06Like I said, I've been improving to start of this year, coming here, just improving my game all around. What's the biggest last question you played in the world? Pretty quiet today. Is that disconcerting? Are you waiting for a leg? I'm waiting. I mean, he's giving me a lot of feedback today on practice, different plays, what he thinks, what he's happy about. But I think the energy is going to come soon, so I'm excited. Did you get any more props for your boots picked up on that fast? Did you remind anyone who was freaking out about it? Oh, yeah. I did. I did. How were you without party games? When Blitz picked up? When Blitz picked up, I can feel it. Yeah. Yeah. Pretty solid. I think, like I said, just improving my game all around, that's the goal. Continue to build every day and not be the same player that you were yesterday. So that's really my goal, but I think I've been pretty solid at it, for sure. All right, Quencha, thank you. All right, thank you guys. Thank you, Quencha. The game I wanted to play, that's the only game I have circled.

4:52:13So I just, I guess I got to wait two years. God has it playing for me that in two years, I'll be able to play in this game. It should be better. It's not, at least it's good. We all came back for a goal and that's to be the best defense, one of the best defense to ever play at Ohio State, and hopefully be the best defense in the country. So we all come back with that goal in mind, and if we fall short, then we fell short of that. Yeah. Oh, super duper excited. I mean, to have someone like that come here and then makes me compete every day. Like, I love Caleb being here, we're in the film, watching film together. We're competing in the way, we're competing on the field, just to have someone like that to just push you every day, it's going to make both of us better. So I can't wait to have Caleb here. And all the other safes like Jaha, Malik, some of the young guys, Baramzoo, Jalen,

4:53:13them dudes stepping up, I mean, all the safes are just excited to be around because we have such a competitive room. You don't come to BIA unless you want to compete. Like, there's no one's job safe, no one's job's guaranteed, and that's how we show up to the room every day. What stands out to you about Caleb, what's some of the things that kind of jump off the page of you? Just someone that lives in the film room, someone that loves to be a student in the game. That's something I like to gravitate to because that's what I find myself. So just being able to just watch film, be a sponge, learn. He just really came into the room and really just jelled right in. So it's exciting to have him be a part of the room. Was that a surprise when you heard the news that he was coming to tell us or did you have it in? I think, yeah, I was definitely surprised. I mean, I remember when he came here as a recruit and he was on his official and he really liked it. And then I know he's really close with Jordan Hancock and stuff. So it makes sense why he'd come in. And then you see what coach G are doing. Why not? Why wouldn't you want to come be a part of BIA? Caleb, with the way that you Caleb come in here, that's great. Let me say that also allow the defense to take a different game of the sun and the game of the line.

4:54:17So when you look at the like, the box here in the back of the game, you look at that whole defense and the final game. Yeah, I mean, I think Sonny is a spectacular athlete. I mean, Sonny has the ability to play safety, to play linebacking and probably come off the air. Sonny could probably play every position on the field. So I think having him closer to the line, being able to make plays, it gives us more opportunity to change the defense and do different things and the defense that maybe we weren't able to do last year. So I think wherever it's going to play, he's going to be successful. So I'm just, I'm excited to play with him. Going great. I mean, coach G was here when I, when I, my junior year in me and him, I mean, we gel together a lot. And I think he's a great coach, ridiculously smart and brings a lot of energy every day. And I love being coached by him before and I can't wait for him to be back here and have a year, another year with him. I mean, like I said, it should be the best defense in the country.

4:55:20It shouldn't, should be no, no other goals. Did you play a big role in specialty in your time here? It's been like watching it now with Ryan Day having a lot of room. Does that hand in in that? Yeah, I think, I love how Coach Day's getting more hands on, getting more involved in everybody. I think Coach Day's the best head coach in the country. So for him to be in there on our special team, he's going to be pushing everyone to be better, holding the older guys accountable, making the older guys hold the young guys accountable. I think it's just going to make us a better all-around team. What did you see from Jaylen? And his early days? Oh, man, Jaylen is a, he, a dude that goes 100% every play. And as a young guy, that's the first step of, for greatness, just going as hard as you can every play. And I think Jaylen can be really special. Yeah, that's why I got to say. What was it like to know when will you go through it? Just feel like every time you've got on that, you're going to have to talk something. You can throw in another curveball. How did you handle this one compared to the other team? Yeah, I think, like I said earlier, I'm not going to sit here and lie and say when it first happened, I wasn't crushed.

4:56:24I think I was really destroyed. But I think just knowing that God has a plan for me and I'm facing this adversity for a reason, and I'm going to come out stronger, smarter, and a better player. So I can't wait for it. What do you ask the store for me this year? What did you find yourself doing watching? I just know you had a decision. Yeah, I could go for a future. I got to come and worry about God. You wanted a part of the team to be around you. I had to be frustrating for you to watch this time considering how close you guys were. Some of the plays that went the other way and I think also. Yeah, just knowing, I mean, don't want how much like, it's funny when I talked about it before. Like, being a dude from Arizona, I didn't know too much about how I stayed before I got here. So just being here for the years I've been here, man, I grew to love it. I grew to really love my brothers, love Ohio State. And to not be able to play in that game, and I was crushed. I was crushed. And it was hard for me to watch. It was hard for me to just sit there and not be with my brothers and be a part of that. But I mean, that just has that much more feel on the fire this year.

4:57:25To go in there and to achieve our goal of being team of Nore, winning the big 10 and winning the national championship. So that's why we came back. It's easy. All of us could have went to the NFL and achieved our dreams. But when we didn't achieve our goals here and didn't finish our legacy here, the way we wanted to made the decision to come back that much easier. When did you get over the last question? The last question? The last question? The last question? You know what I mean? Getting back feeling. I'm talking to the coach right now. What time frame was that? Probably towards the end of the winner. I started feeling a little more like myself again. I'm just keeping stacking those days and keeping building that momentum to feel even better than I felt last year. You may have been asked for a week up here. What does Caleb bring to that secondary now? You and him back there. What does that feel like? It's super exciting. Like I'm saying, he's a really student of the game. Me and him being in the film room all day. I'm getting on the field competing in the way room on the field. He's a great competitor. And just having someone like Caleb to push you every day to get better and hold you accountable man is super exciting.

4:58:30And I can't wait to see how me and Caleb play, how all the safety's played. Jahaig looking great. Jelima claim, Bonzo, all those dudes looking great man and just having BIA back, I'm excited. What are the quick, is you looking at this defense from your band? All the pieces there, there's everything I'm saying. Does it feel like this could be a special year? Yeah, I mean I feel like the last three years it could have been a special year. But I mean yeah, obviously if you look on paper at the defense, we have the best defense in the country. So if you just, it just takes, it's on us to put it all together. It's easy to say you had the decision to just that, but at the end day you still got to go on the field, shepherd, humbled up and show it every week. Nathan, thank you very much. Ty, we got you buddy. Oh yeah, it's easy, really easy. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. What was it like? I mean, you were identified as a Leo guy, and you don't matter what the state is. Yeah, yeah. I think it's a big lens for you, right? Did you sense that? Yeah, I definitely saw some likeness to my ability to the ability of Leo.

4:59:32So I definitely was excited to get into that position and do what I could do best. And just played at the best of my ability, but of course those things change. You never know what to expect, especially coming on a holiday. So I'm just here to grind and work every day. We've got to watch you anxiety. You know, you can watch your biggest experience and stuff. You see, if you play with Paulo, they feel like that Saturday, they're right in the spring. Which is a good word really, right? Yeah, I think for the majority of the spring, I've been feeling more confident in myself and my abilities. Even with everything that's happened in the past, I still think I have a lot to give, and a lot to give with this program. So I think that kind of showed on Saturday day where I just let loose a little bit and just play it to the best of my ability. So yeah. Take time to get comfortable eventually after being on the field. Yeah, I mean for sure. I think it definitely took a second to just trust myself and my body. Because for the past couple of years it didn't hold me back or it didn't help me out in the best way, obviously. But yeah, I mean, it's just like, it is very mental. I've found just like every day, just counteracting that fear or that doubt of like my body's in a hold up.

5:00:32But I just think, I think my mentality right now is really good for that. So I think I'll be good. Yeah, I don't usually get that. Yeah, I do feel home. I think this past two years has definitely been a learning curve, but I think now more than ever. I'm definitely comfortable in where I'm at and what I need to do and like my skill set and I've been talking with the coaches about what it looks like for me to be the best possible version of myself in this position. So yeah, I feel great. Oh, yeah. I think the biggest thing in our group is just leadership because we have a lot of guys like you said in that room who've been battle tested so to speak. So I think especially coming up in this bringing into this fall, we just like need to be the anchor for this defensive unit and needs to show up every day day and and day. So. He always likes to play a lot of guys last year. Rotation, maybe like, you know, just people ready.

5:01:36Now it's talking more. He wants to play for that. Um, especially with this new season, I'd expect that, but we have to see, you know, it's a. You don't know until it happens. So I'm just very curious to see what's going to happen to season. So yeah. What is the dynamic like in the room? All these old guys that came back and then he got all these young guys. Yeah, it's like a little brother, big brother type deal. You know, a lot of the guys who've been there trying to help out and bring along the younger guys is definitely a process at times, but I think the love we share in that room is very, very strong. And with that, I think it helps us get through anything and any challenges and overcoming as well. Mitch, maybe you were already asked to show you primer. Yeah. This road and light. And here and then get up to this point. Yeah. You finally kind of maybe hit that pinnacle source. Um, it's a, it's a blessing, I'd say. Because you know, a lot of guys in my position have had the same injuries and still haven't came back.

5:02:37And I'm just, I'm just thankful that I'm here in the best university in the world and the best training staff. And they got me to this point where I can be back to, be back to healthy and even better than healthy. Because I feel like I better than what I was. So it's, um, it was humbling, I think, the journey was for me. I just, because I remember coming to Ohio State, there was nothing but a dream, you know. I had a dream of being the best version of myself doing all the things, getting all the accolades, but then, you know, things happen. And, uh, it took me about surprise, of course, but I think it also gave me a lesson that I really needed and it needed to, like, grow into a better version of myself. So I think the journey was needed and it was, it was a blessing for me for sure. Do you ever ask a question? Do you ever think about? I'm done. No, I can't do that, man. I love the sport too much to do that, you know. And I love the guys around me. And I think that's the biggest thing that brought me back was just like, I can't do it to them. And, you know, I just, I know we have what we can be on the field. So it's like, I'm going to do everything I can to get back on that field, for sure. What impact you think you can have in your life? Um, I'm not even, I'm just trying to go day by day. It's hard.

5:03:37That's what I found myself is always like going to the future and thinking what I'm going to do this thing. Or next day, next day, next day, next day, but it's just like, it's overwhelming. That it's like, gave me stress, I think for me, it's just worrying about tomorrow, the next practice. And what that holds for me. And then doing whatever I need to do and whatever skill I need to sharpen it, things like that. When did you start to feel completely up? Um, definitely last season. I think it was kind of hard to like, trust it last season, but I still think my body was at 100%. So yeah. All right, Mitchell, thank you. Thank you. Thank you guys. Thanks, Mitch. Yeah. I mean, I'm not going to sit here and lie and tell you like in the moment it wasn't hard. Um, it was definitely hard. But it wasn't as hard when I realized that me and my brothers didn't achieve our goals. Um, like we have three goals here at Ohio State, beat the team in the North, win the big 10 when the national championship. And I still yet to achieve, I've yet to achieve those goals. So when I sit there and look at the big pictures, yeah, the next level, I mean, that's my, that's my, that's my all-time dream.

5:04:39But I still haven't finished my legacy here at Ohio State and achieving those three goals. So it made the decision a lot easier. It was ridiculously hard. I mean, that was the game. That's the only game I really wanted to play all year. Like, that's all I thought about, especially just how the last game ended. And I mean, I played my, the game I wanted to play. That's the only game I have circled. So I just, I guess I got away two years. God has a plan for me that it will, in two years, I'll be able to play in this game. You guys have a little bit of experience here. I'm going to be able to do this this time this year. I'm going to be able to do this this year. I'm going to be able to do this this year. It should be better. It's not, it's not. At least it's good. I mean, we all came back for a goal and that's to be the best defense, one of the best defense to ever play at Ohio State. And hopefully be the best defense in the country. So we, we all come back with that, with that goal in mind. And if we fall short, then we fell short of that. Yeah.

5:05:42Oh, super duper excited. I mean, to have someone like that come here and then makes me compete every day. Like, I love Caleb being here, wearing the film, watching film together. I'm working peeing in the way, I'm working peeing on the field. Just to have someone like that to just push you every day. It's going to make both of us better. So I can't, I can't wait to have Caleb here. And all the other safes like Jihad, Malik, some of the young guys, Barnes, Jalen, them dude stepping up. I mean, all the safes I'm just excited to be around because we have such a competitive room. You don't come to BIA unless you want to compete. Like, there's no one's job safe, no one's jobs guaranteed. And that's how we show up to the room every day. What stands out to you about Caleb? You know, what's some of the things that kind of jump off the page of you? Just someone that lives in the film room, someone that loves to be a student in the game. That's someone that's something I like to gravitate to because that's what I find myself. Just being able to just watch film, be a sponge, learn. He just really came into the room and really just jelled right in. So it's exciting to have him be a part of the room. Was that a surprise? What do you heard the news that he was coming up with all this? Or did you kind of have anything that that was going to happen?

5:06:42I think, yeah, I was definitely surprised. I mean, I remember when he came here as a recruit and he was on his official and he really liked it. And then I know he's really coached with Jordan Hancock and stuff. So it makes sense why he to come in. And then I mean, you see what coach G are doing. Like, why not? Why wouldn't you want to come be a part of BIA? Played a tune, he'll come in here. That's great. But he's safe. But also, allow the defense to take a different game of the sun. And we're here in line. So when you look at the like, actually, you're in the back of the game. You look at that whole defense and finally, can you look at number six now playing off the close of the line? It's pretty much how do you think it changes the whole room of how you play D? Yeah, I mean, I think sun is a spectacular athlete. I mean, sun has the ability to play safety, to play linebacking, and probably come off the ares. Like, sun can probably play every position on the field. So I think having him a coach to the line, being in the make plays, it gives us more opportunity to change the defense and do different things in the defense that maybe we weren't able to do last year. So I think wherever sun is going to play, he's going to be successful. So I'm just, I'm excited to play with him.

5:07:46Going great. I mean, coach G was here when I, when I, my junior year in me and him, I mean, we gel together a lot. And I think he's a great coach, ridiculously smart, and brings a lot of energy every day. And I love being coached while I'm before, and I can't wait for him to be back here and have a year, another year with him. I mean, like I said, it should be the best defense in the country. It shouldn't, should be no, no other goals. Did you better make a special team two times? Yeah, it's been like watching it now with Ryan, Jay, having a lot of good. Does that hand in that? Yeah, I think I love how coached days get more hands on, get more involved in everybody. I mean, I think coached days, the best head coach in the country. So for him to be in there on our special teams, you're going to push everyone to be better, holding the older guys accountable, making the older guys hold the young guys accountable. I think it's just going to make us a better all-around team. What did you see from Jaylin playing? And his early days? Oh, man, Jaylin is a, he, a dude that goes 100% every play.

5:08:48And as a young guy, that's the first step of, for greatness, just going as hard as you can every play. And, uh, man, I think Jaylin could be really special. Yeah, that's why I got to say. What was it like in the Wendell for you? Just feel like every time you've got on that other, you're having a towards something. You can throw in another curveball. How did you handle this one, compared to the other two? Yeah, I think, like I said earlier, I'm not going to sit here and lie and say when it first happened, I wasn't crushed. I think I was really destroyed. But I think just knowing that God has a plan for me and I'm facing this adversity for a reason, and I'm going to come out stronger, smarter, and a better player. I can't wait for it. What do you ask the store for me this year? What did you find yourself doing watching? I know you had a decision, you had a good old future. I got it. I'm not worried about God. I'm just going to tell you what's the best. You wanted a part of the team, you're around me. I had to be frustrating for you to watch this time, considering how close you guys were. Some of the plays that went the other way and big house. Yeah, just knowing, I mean, don't want how much, like, it's funny when I talked about it before, like, being a dude from Arizona,

5:09:54I didn't know too much about how I stayed before I got here. So just being here for the years I've been here, man, I grew to love it. I grew to really love my brothers, love Ohio State. And to be not be able to play in that game, I was crushed. I was crushed. It was hard for you to watch. Hard for me to just sit there and not be with my brothers and be a part of that. But I mean, that just has that much more feel on the fire this year. I'm just going there and to achieve our goal of being team of Nore, winning the big team and winning the national championship. So that's why we came back. It's easy. All of us could have went to the NFL and achieved our dreams. But when we didn't achieve our goals here and didn't finish our legacy here, the way we wanted to made the decision to come back that much easier. When did you get over the last question? The last question, the last vaccine you don't need kidding back to being team of Nore. What time frame is that? Probably towards the end of the winner. I started feeling a little more like myself again. I'm just keeping stacking those days and keeping building that momentum to feel even better than I felt last year. You may have been asked for a walk up here, but what does Caleb bring to that secondary now?

5:10:59You and him back there together, what does that feel like? It's super exciting. Like I'm saying, he's a real student of the game. Me and him being the film room all day. I'm getting on the field competing in the way room on the field. He's a great competitor. And just having someone like Caleb to push you every day to get better and to hold you accountable man is super exciting. And I can't wait to see how me and Caleb play, how all the safety's played. Jahaig looking great. Jelima claim, Bonzo, all those dudes looking great man and just having BIA back, I'm excited. What are the quick, is you looking at this defense from your fans? All the pieces there, I guess I'm going to say, does it feel like this could be a special year? Yeah, I mean, I feel like the last three years it could have been a special year. But I mean, yeah, obviously if you look on paper at the defense, we have the best defense in the country. So if you just, it just takes, it's on us to put it all together. It's easy to say you had the distance and just that, but at the end day you still got to go on the field, shepherd, hum it up and show it every week.

5:12:00Nathan, thank you very much. Ty, we got you, buddy. Thank you. I'm talking to your talk. Yeah, I think, you know, also that's a great question. I hope not, right? I think the energy was still there with a guy like Kate. Now, again, it might have been, like I said earlier, also it might have been, you know, the 3000 level course with Kate, because he's ran that play for four years before I got him. Right now, it still might be the, what do I got to do? And yeah, I mean, I hope the guys feel that the energy's picked up, because the urgency has. I mean, eight number eights, not in the room anymore. Great, we're going to play somebody in a couple months, right? And there's got to be a tie-dand out there. Hopefully it's two, hopefully three tie-dands out there. So hopefully they feel the urgency's picked up. They believe that the room is structured, but she's been in the courtroom for a long time. But it felt like year after year, it was a long time. The better guy, the next one, the better guy, the next one, behind us. Like, it's just dynamic. Is that the, you have to provide more leadership for the guys? You know what I mean? Is that after a couple more? Is you just at the tone? Is that just a geez job, even if it's happening?

5:13:02Yeah, I don't know. I'm not going to put it all on geezer, right? But again, the leaders drive the culture. Whether it be G or whether it be Pat, who's been here for a long time and played a lot of football, or whether it be Will came in and say, no, this is what it should look like. I mean, I want those guys to take it around with it. You know, on Saturdays, I'm in the box. I'm not, I'm not cutting off the C-Gaff. It's got to come from them. Now, again, my job is to coach. To make them hear things they don't want to hear. You know, pushing to do things they don't want to do. So I'm certainly going to do that at times. And I'll keep doing it. But they've done a great job of driving the culture. Keenan, you were in the room with Kevin. Was in the office of any room for so many years. Does having Chip kind of get you guys back to where you guys were with Kevin? I know that the room has an offensive staff. You guys were kind of young last year. And now to have Chip with that experience, is that kind of like what you guys have with Kevin? You know, some similarities. And I think the comparison is that we're talking about Kevin Wilson, Chip Kelly, or two of the brightest, you know, minds and offensive football in the last several decades. So I think there's some similarities there. But yeah, I think it's a loud one coach day, maybe to delegate, you know,

5:14:03to Coach Kelly and let him be the best version of himself. And Coach Kelly's been an awesome leader, right, of driving us and listening and providing input. So it's been great. I don't know if it's exactly like it was with Coach Wilson, but it feels great, however it is right now. Keenan, was there initially a bigger role, expected for Jolani in the cotton bowl, and did that not get to come to fruition as much as the way that came played out? You know, I don't remember exactly what, you know, the expectation was he was going to help contribute. And certainly we wanted him to contribute from the jump and keep him in there contributing. The game kind of started off, you know, not ideal. And we had Kate in there and, you know, that was his last game as a buck guy. So we felt comfortable riding out with him. But I think Jolani and everyone else is kind of focused going forward. Did you guys see him going through that during the bull prep that was a step forward at all? Yeah, oh yeah, he definitely takes that forward for sure. If you are changing an ideal situation for the ball,

5:15:04what does the depth look like in terms of how many guys you trust? I think I got six seats in there, so six of the toughest dudes on the team. I'm not sure I'm just giving the coach speak, but, I mean, however it shakes out. Hopefully we could play 13% or 14% now. And I got guys out there that are going to go, uh, reach them happy. But I don't know, they're going to make that sort of out. Right now I'm worried about whatever Thursday's practice, the toughest dudes on the field. Are you seeing enough of that feel comfortable saying that that can happen by the end? Yeah, yeah, I mean, we're taking strides. We'll see about the end of spring and then hopefully fall camp. It's a long ways away from wherever we play week one. Yeah, it's been great. It's been great. A proper turn and kick return and getting the coach other positions too, right? I mean, special teams comes down to technique and effort, right? And that's the ultimate test of the brotherhood. No one signed up to be a buck out of me on proper terms. They're going to be first round this, first round that. So it's been awesome. And involved in that. What do you think about it? It looks like a lot of fun for you. Oh, yeah, we're working quite a few guys back there.

5:16:06We got some options. So yeah, we fun. You guys were thinking about puts. Maybe having big wheels. What is he giving you guys? I would think he's going to be there. I mean, he had more time, right? Just because we have that whole month of kind of December for the first time. I mean, he had more time, right? Just because we have that whole month of kind of December for development. And the bull preps a lot like spring ball. And that he has those three or four weeks to get the reps. He wasn't getting during the year because Cade was taking it. Right? I think good. I think it just shows that next man in, we trust you fully. Cade couldn't go. No one better than I was G. Then it was Pat. Period. We call their offense. There's no modified offense or anything like that. So to put our trust in him, he went out and made a lot of plays. And both of this gets played really well. I think that helps the confidence for him and awesome. Really good. When you look at G now, do you, and this is me, a prestigious question, maybe. Do you see a tight end there?

5:17:07You're still one I'm saying from a couple of years ago. I'm here as he was, you know, he moved over from wide receiver and all this kind of stuff. What just jumped out at you about what he brings with the tight end spot. I guess. Yeah. I know what you're asking too. I promise you, I never like, he's in the tight end room. I didn't say, oh, but he's a receiver playing tight end. He's a tight end. Yeah. He's a tight end. So he's greater like a tight end. He's treated like it. So I never really. But like Kevin talked about when the, you know, first made the move. You want to, you want to get this guy some confidence, play and tight end. Meaning, I'm not going to say it gets lesser opponents, but having some success out there, you know, like in the run game, the blocking aspect of things and stuff. And he seems to progress big time from that. I mean, do you feel that way too? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. He's going way better. And again, practice. He's on the left side. He's against JT. He's on the right side. He's against Shaq. So I mean, there's no, this is Ohio State. You're playing against the best every day. So he's definitely progressed. Do you think that elaborate effort you guys are having us, Michael, teams? Do you think that's benefiting you guys in terms of how you're pushing out the end of the game? Yeah.

5:18:07I think so. You know, as far as ownership goes, right? Like, I mean, I'm not saying I wasn't invested last year, but shoot. I'm a part of the tournament, I mean, that's Coach Hartlan and I's product out there. And if there's not tight ends all over those units, and they're not going to play tight end in Ohio State, and I bet you Hartlan feels the same way about the receiver. So as far as the buy-in from the staff, Heck yeah. Heck yeah, for me, at least, speaking for myself. When Coach stayed broke that up, what did you think about that change? And number two, what has he told you he wants that he wasn't getting from a special team to a year ago? No, he never, he never told me anything about last year. It was all about, okay, how it going to be? This is, again, Ohio State, whatever the janitorial staff is supposed to be the best in the country. The tight end coach better be the best in the country. Same thing with quarterback, same thing with PumberTrend Coach. On the PumberTrend coach, I should be the best one in the country. So I got to work with Coach Hartlan and Coach Keys and everyone else learning this game and techniques. And now we got to put on the field. You fund yourself studying Punt Returns, or like NFL teams, things like that. How are you doing your prep work? Oh yeah, Coach Hart, Coach Keys, thanks Gunner and I.

5:19:08I mean, we bought to ourselves in a room for a week there and I don't think I did any offense. So, I don't know. You already have pretty good knowledge of the return game, or good moves, if you'd have to, like, start from scratch. No, yeah, there's no starting from scratch, Dan. I mean, it's all ball. And that's the coolest thing about special teams is if you're not special teams, you're just going to make you better, Tydan. That's going to be a better DB, you're running back. And it's like the technique and everything like that. I think I had pretty fair foundation. And then maybe some tweaks and, you know, kind of, we have to decide what our identity is going this season. Then we come forward with a path of history. And we all know that we played a big role in the game. What do you think? What do you think is the best thing to do? What trust is to do against what kind of trust is advocating? Yeah, I think he proved it on special teams, because he played on special teams before we played offense. And then just reps up practice again against blocking the best linebackers in the country. It doesn't matter if you're a fine star or if you're a walk on. But to that point, I think sometimes there's a mentality of what he's just a walk on. It does not exist with Pat.

5:20:08It's went out the window to start a, once you start a plan. Is that how you approach it here? It's how guys like to do it here's a guy. Almost 1130. It's my family star. Oh, yeah. Is that help you? Oh, yeah. They know. I think everyone in my room knows. And, you know, guys, I talked to on the recruiting trail. And then Kate went down and knew as G and then Pat was right in. I didn't have a bad eye. I'm going to put the toughest dude out there who goes to hardest. I don't care if you're from Ohio, you're a dad's a buck guy, if you're a walk on her five star. Whatever should help us win, you know? We can marry in the past. Not here yet. You still work with them? How does that kind of work right now? Yeah, we can. I mean, with Max and Toe, it's FaceTime's and it's encouraging them to get here and watch practice so that when they get here, right out of graduation, we can hit the ground running. But yeah, it's much prep work as we can do on the front end with, you know, setting them tip sheets and that's what a thing. We're technology nowadays. I mean, COVID, we had to do it. So, yeah, we could get to work right now. Two more questions, folks. The special teams question. The collaboration that you guys have.

5:21:08It's three people in one room. Like, how does that work semantically where you guys are all putting your heads together to get one idea? Just how does that play out in the room together? Yeah, I mean, luckily, I mean, it's coach Hart and I. I mean, that guy, we worked every, we're see each other every day for the last eight years. Luckily, I worked four years with him. So that's so organic. Hart and I just kind of bounce each other, thoughts off each other. We can read each other's minds by now. I think that's how close we are. So, this really organic in there. And then Coach Kees does a great job of kind of setting the direction, giving us some expertise. And we just kind of have a flow off each other. Okay. I've seen the guys react to that. So you're coaching. That's much of a team's. Yeah, I think they like it because like the accountability, again, if my tight ends aren't on point return to take a dream, they're not playing tight end. And they know that. So I think across the board, it gives us a platform to coach other positions. In a time when Trent Transport is so big, and the guy like G probably could have left multiple times if he wanted to, what does that do for the room? To have a guy who's a leader, have just so step-ass and like, I want to stay here, I want to stay here and make an impact.

5:22:08I think it speaks volumes. You hit the nail on the head, not just for G, but for the brotherhood. And I know it sounds cliche and people read it on Twitter and kind of roll the rise of brotherhood. Why did they think the entire defense came back for the brotherhood? We got two goals here. We haven't done them since she's been here. He hasn't hit his two goals, so he stayed for the brotherhood. So I think it speaks volumes for G as a leader in the room. But also, I mean, you look around a roster. How many guys could have either left for other opportunities in the portal or in the NFL? So I think it speaks volumes to the brotherhood. Is it different at tight end with the transfer portal maybe because for some positions it's such a development position at tight end where you have to develop run blocking? And you have to learn the passing game. Like, is it different trying to keep kids around maybe in the portal or at a tight end? Yeah, maybe it is. And I haven't really thought about that because it's still so new. I think you've got to be so honest in recruiting. Right? If you think I'm going to walk into a living room and say, come be my starting tight end, I sure you're crazy. You're crazy. Now, come prepared and get to work before you get here. And, you know, I'm going to give you the opportunity to.

5:23:09Again, I'll tell you a question earlier. I don't care if he's a senior or a true freshman. You can play, you can play period. I can't wait. Give me a true freshman, you can play tight end. It's the Ohio State. You got to block Jack and JT. And then your dog tired next play, you're getting covered by Downs and Latelyn and all those guys. Are you kidding me? Is this NFL? No, it's the Ohio State. Right? So yeah, I think it's a little bit different, but you got to be honest on the front end. Thank you very much. Awesome. Thanks, guys. Thanks, coach. Thank you.